October 22, 2024 • 40 mins
Miami Dolphins QB Tua Tagovailoa plans to play again after recovering from his latest concussion and Dan has deep concerns about his future, not just on the field. Plus, former college and NFL QB and host of “The Bachelor,” Jesse Palmer stops by to talk some pigskin.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio Final Hour.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
On this Tuesday, the host of the Bachelor, former quarterback
Jesse Palmer, will stop buying a little bit. Recapping last night,
the Ravens look dominating handled the Buccaneers, five touchdown passes
for Lamar, one hundred and sixty nine yards for Derrick Henry.
I like how whenever Derrick Henry has a good game,
it's always brought up to Jerry Jones when he does
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his weekly radio show. Are you sure you couldn't have
afforded Derrick Henry? And then I think his latest comment
is he wouldn't have fit into our system. No, you
change your system with Derrick Henry. Do I want Zeke Elliott?
Do I want Derrick Henry? I think we're going to
have Zeke because Zeke's been in the offense before. Yeah,
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that was before when he was good. Derrick Henry is
that game breaker, he's that difference maker. You gotta have
eyes on him constantly. And he had two big runs
last night. And you know it's like pittures get better later. Well,
they used to. This is old school where a starting
pitcher would become more dominating the later in the game.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
It was one of.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Those strange things. You would think that you start out
and you're throwing hard. Well, pictures don't start out that way.
Then all of a sudden, you get to the sixth
or seventh inning, and then all of a sudden, you
see Kurt Schilling or Nolan Ryan, or Steve Carlton or
you know name. You know these great pictures and they
seem to be even more powerful. I always marveled with
running backs, and then it was pointed out to me
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by you know, the great Jim Brown. He said, the
later in the game, you're going to get tired, and
we're going to take advantage of that. So Derrick Henry
can take advantage of that because third quarter, fourth quarter,
guys don't want to tackle him all night long, and
then all of a sudden he's going to break one
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or two of those. Having that advantage, I don't think
there's anybody else in the NFL who has that kind
of advantage. And it's not about how many carries. Maybe
he gets fifteen carries, but he can hit a home
run for you, and just having that element, that's where
play action. I'm always amazed when I watch teams do
play action. First of all, I would do play action
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where my quarterback is under center, because it's harder to
see the deception is there. And Boomer Sison might have
been the best at faking, or it appeared to be
he was faking a handoff their play action. Why not
make the defense have to look find if you're giving
the ball to the running back or not. So I
would start there with play action pass. Now, if I
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have play action and you have to respect Derrick Henry,
now it makes Lamar Jackson even more dangerous that he
can throw five touchdown passes. Spreading the well, doesn't have
to focus in on just one receiver, and you still
have the weapon of Derrick Henry. The big issue, and
it sounds strange saying this about the Ravens is their defense,
because their defense is twenty fifth or twenty sixth in
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the league. You had the Cardinals coming back to beat
the Chargers in a game. Feels like that will haunt
them and maybe cost them making the playoffs. As weird
as that may sound, you're supposed to win those games
and you have Justin Herbert throwing for over three hundred
and sixty yards but no touchdowns. NBA openers, Nick Celtics, Timberwolves,
and the Lakers will play the Bronni James game. When
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does he get in, how much does he play? And
will do over under points for him with the first
game of this season to a tongue of ioloa, met
with the media. We've been waiting for this. We didn't
know when he was going to be cleared and if
he was going to play. Do they want him to play?
Does the commissioner wanting to play? How much of a
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role does his family play in him needing to play?
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Wanting to play? Does he wear a Guardian cap?
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Like?
Speaker 2 (03:54):
There's a lot of things in play here and a
whole lot of money with to a tongue of ioloa.
So here's some questions that Tua was asked yesterday at
the press conference.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Well you wear a Guardian cat? Nope?
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Why personal choice? Okay, that's see. I need a little
bit more gray area.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
I need. I need a little bit more of a
you know what. I've tried.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
It didn't like the feel of it, but I won't
rule it out like that feels like no way, no way,
I'm going to look like that. That's soft. Not going
to do that. Play the next one. You've said it's
obviously your decision, and because you have so much more
information leaders, But how much risk do you think that
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you're taking the play?
Speaker 5 (04:45):
Again, well, how much risk do we take when we
get up in the morning to go to go, drive,
drive to work, get into a car crash.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Me, I don't know. Everything I think tastes less.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
So to answer that question, every time we all suit up,
we're all taking a risk that we could potentially get hurt.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Whether it's a concussion, a broken bone.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
Anything you get up off of the bed the wrong way,
you potentially could risk.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
He's spraining your ankle.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
There's just risk in any and everything, and I'm willing
to play the odds.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Okay, Okay, I can drive to work, but I'm not
playing football. And yes, we all run that risk of
something happening here. We're trying to reduce the number of
risk that we have when it comes to our health.
He is driving to work, but he's also playing football.
We know that he's had probably four concussions, maybe more
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than that. Who knows what he had in high school
or the number of concussions documented at Alabama. And look,
I'm not here to be all knowing and be a
father figure here. He's young, there's a lot of money
at stake. I don't know if he cares. And we
have a lot of former players who are giving their
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opinions now. I respect to them because they played, but
they all are done playing. If they were twenty five
or twenty six years of age, they would probably be
saying what Tua is saying. Play the next cut from
the press conference, Mark, there.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Are a lot of people out there, legitimately worried about
your health and making sure that you're okay. What would
you say to those that are worried that you might
get hurt again? And this is oh that's going to continue.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
I appreciate your concern, I really do. I love this
game and I love it to the death of me.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
That's it, okay.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
It's hard to without sounding insensitive. It's hard to care
if he doesn't care. And these players are so interchangeable.
When you think about our fandom, and I've been watching
the NFL for over fifty years. They all come and go.
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But I kind of know how this movie ends. You
hope it's not Dave Durrison or Junior Sayou And you know,
to be around these players, and you know, I have
a friend who played, and he's not all there. He
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is not all there. You can tell that there are
moments when he just checks out or he doesn't hear
he and it's it's right in front of you.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
But he's a friend, so that's different. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Tua, you know some of these other Dave Durrison, I
didn't know him. I knew Junior. Sayou but if I
told you that it was coming, would you still choose
to play? And you know there's no lawsuits anymore. You're
choosing to play. It's a dangerous sport. But you could say,
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if I could say to Tua, hey, when you're forty
five years of age, you're going to deal with this,
I don't know if it would matter. I think the
player mentality is I play. This is how I got
to this point.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
I play. I love it.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
You're thinking with your heart that you love this sport,
but you just you know. I was around Jim McMahon
when Jim was suicidal, and it was there was nothing
you could do, like he had already played the game.
Now he's since gotten help and he's in a far
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better place than he ever was. But you're around these people,
and you know, I have the fortune and misfortune of
being around them sometimes. But Tua in his background, how
he grew up, his heritage, does that play a role
in this? It probably does. I don't think you show
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a sign of weakness. And he wants to play. I
know there's a lot of money at stake, and I
can't put that to the side. And I can't expect
him to put that to the side because he's probably thinking,
you know, there's seventy two million dollars here, I can
play and remember the whole jiu jitsu and knowing how
to fall. And I said, that is nonsense. How did
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he get hurt? He lowered his head and ran into
Damar Hamlin. This has nothing to do with jiu jitsu.
The defensive player coming in to sack you doesn't go, oh,
he's going to know how to fall if I hit
him really hard, or he's going to say, Miles Garrett's
coming after me, I know how to fall. It doesn't
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work that way, all right, play play. The thing I
worry about is when you see somebody get their bell
rung and all of a sudden their arms freeze up
and they don't know where the they are and they're
shaking their head and you can tell me it's an ankle,
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you can tell me it's a knee, you can tell
me anything.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
But we all know.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
And he's susceptible to more concussions. So did I think
this was going to happen? Yes, I did. I wasn't surprised.
Talk to somebody the Players Association off the record, and
you know, there's some real concern because of the optics
of this. You want the league to protect your players,
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but the players have to protect themselves too. And this
person said to me, We've talked to him, but that's
all you can do. And he knows that he's getting
paid and the Dolphins need him. I mean, that's bottom line.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
This is business. It is and I don't know what
we would do.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
I would probably play if I was twenty five, but
at twenty five I had I knew nothing, but if
I was getting paid this I'm the quarterback. I've had concussions,
so what I mean. I did stupid things athletically when
I should have, you know, shut it down and had surgery.
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I've waited ten years to have knee surgery, and then
I had five knee surgeries in the Spanish seven years
after that, and now I have a replacement. Mee, that's
just me, you know, doing low level athleticism. He's playing
in the NFL. You've had these concussions. They're going to
be there. You're going to hold your breath every single
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you're going to watch him play. Unfortunately, he'll be musty
TV for all the wrong reasons.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
And that's because of this.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Now I can say, if that was my son, you
know what I would say to my son, I don't
want you plan anymore. You got money, you got seventy
five million in the bank. Let's think long term, let's
think bigger picture here. That doesn't mean he would do it.
And I don't know if to his dad says, hey
you can play, continue to play, okay, but it certainly
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sounds like his resolve is I'm going to play. Hey,
I love this game until I die. I love this game.
There is no hesitation. And you know what, he couldn't
go to that press conference and be in doubt. He
couldn't give you any of that. Well, I don't know, Hey,
I gave it some thought. I mean, he has to
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give a confidence level that he probably has never given before,
whether he believes it or not, he has to sell that, Hey,
this is who I am.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
I'm playing.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Hey, I'm you know, I'm If you worry about my health,
you know I'm still playing, that's okay.
Speaker 6 (13:00):
Yeah see, yeah, Like I don't really have a problem
with him still wanting to play at all. You know
that any other conversations about his long term health, that's
like between him the team and like his.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Wife and kids.
Speaker 6 (13:12):
Yeah, you know what I mean, that's really where that
Other than that, I couldn't care less. You can't tell somebody.
You could say, like, hey, if you wear this cap,
it might help you, and he's like, nah, that's all right,
I'm good. All right man, that's your choice, you know.
I mean, if you kind of want to do that,
then then go ahead. You can't get that out of somebody,
you know. And I think he's married.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
He's married and has kids.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Yeah, so you those are personal conversations. Yeah, I'm I'm
I just have seen this end. I know how these
things end. And even if it's let's say he has
one can let's say he doesn't have any concussions the
rest of his life in the NFL, but twenty years
from now, I mean, this doesn't go away. And I
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think that's what was alarming to me is I'm friends
with somebody who probably hasn't had a concussion in twenty
five years, but still has the aftershocks, still deals with
things lost some memory. We had Merril Hodge on the
show many many years ago. Hodgi played running back in
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the NFL. He told me that he got lost in
his own neighborhood going around the block in his car.
He couldn't get back home. He forgot to get back home.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
It's there. It's there for a lot of players.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
It's there for players you have no idea who they are,
they played in college. I mean, it's there. This is
front and center. He's making a lot of money. He
plays for the Dolphins. You know, the NFL is center stage,
and concussions have been really really important part here. But
I understand what he's saying. I do, and I would
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probably do the same thing if I was his age,
I probably would, yes.
Speaker 6 (15:03):
Yeah, like right, Like if he doesn't want to wear
the helmet, like, okay, that's your choice, if you want
to still keep playing, Like I actually respect him being
up there early, like this is my personal choice.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
I don't really care. I still want to play. I
love this game. You know.
Speaker 6 (15:14):
It's when you start throwing into the mix of those things.
I respect everything about what he just said, until he
was just like, well, hey, I mean you wake up
and get out of bed that way, then you might die.
Now you just sound stupid. Yes, you sound like you're
being an absolute moron when you say things like hey,
I mean you drove here, right, didn't you take a risk?
So you just sound like an idiot now and now
there's no respect for what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Yeah, he doesn't need to say, don't bring us in
its People die getting up out of bed every day.
I mean he has to just acknowledge. Look, I don't
I don't lead a normal life. There are inherent risk
with what I do. I signed up for that right,
and I will continue to play until I can't play.
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I appreciate everybody and their concern, but this is about me,
my job, teammates, family, and I have a commitment to them,
and I'm going to continue that. If you say that, okay,
you're going into battle. When Dale Earnhardt Senior died, Dale
Junior continued to drive, didn't think about not So we
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have these moments. These athletes are just different. They have
to be different, and Tua is certainly sounding that way.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
All right.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
When we come back, Jesse Palmer will join us. We'll
get to more phone calls as well. In the next
twenty minutes, we'll play the Bronnis James game, as he
probably makes his debut tonight against Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Back after this.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
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Speaker 2 (16:55):
Always good to see Jesse Palmer, ESPN college football analyst
and a host of ABC's The Bachelor Bachelorette. He's got
something cool that he's doing with Marriott in the NC DOUBLEG.
It's called Home Field Advantage Contest, as a nationwide contest
looking for college football's craziest, most passionate fans.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
He'll talk a little bit more about that.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Also, Jay Palmer's clothing line, which we just got a
collaboration with Fanatics, some really high quality stuff. Busy man,
Jesse Palmer joining us on the program. Can you help
us understand the mindset of Tua being a former player
and a former quarterback of being twenty five or twenty
six years of age and saying, hey, I still want
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to play football.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
I still want to play football, and Dan, I still
want to play football at a really high level. I
think Tua is about as competitive as they come. And
for a guy at his age already have three concussions,
it's scary. But I think he realizes the ceiling of
this offense and the ceiling of the team. And I
think for any competitor, whether you're a quarterback or whatever
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position you play, at the end of the day, you
want to be out there on the field competing, especially
when you believe you can be very good and you
can compete for Super Bowls and championships. And I think
that's the mindset too has taken into this.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
And also I.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Don't think you can go on the field and think
about an injury, like you shouldn't be on the field.
If you're going out there going I could get hurt.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
I can't play scared, especially at that position. And that's
the thing and I think all of us when you
decide to play football, especially at the national Football like,
you understand that there's an inherent risk every single time
you take the field. But You're absolutely right. In my
experience playing with players that were nicked up or banged up,
or even my own experiences, if you play not to
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get hurt, you get hurt. That happens more often than not,
and that's simply just not the mindset you can take.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Watching the Ravens last night.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
We've seen the Ravens regular season and we see them postseason,
and they're usually a different team. Yeah, you see now
with the Ravens, is this sustainable in the postseason?
Speaker 3 (19:04):
What we're seeing their offensive game plan.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
I mean it looks a little bit different to me.
With Dereck Henry and the physicality they have in the
running game. I mean, they've been running roughshot on everybody
from the very beginning of the season, but he's last
five games in particular, I think Dan during the win streak.
The balance has been tremendous. And it's not even just
Dereck Henry and Lamar Jackson running the ball. I'm really
impressed right now by the offensive line and what they're
doing up front. I know that was a big question
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mark coming into the year. They had some new faces,
but you're watching that game last night, it's not just
the holes. Derrick Henry's running through and the attitude runs.
But a touchdown pass Debateman down the right sideline. I mean,
Lamar has all day to throw that ball. The two
touchdown passes to Mark Andrews in the red zone, He's
got all day to throw the football. He's getting an
opportunity to survey the field and get through his progressions.
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He's so much more efficient that way. So we've seen
this story before. As you mentioned, this now has to
translate into the postseason, and he's got to be able
to do it if and when he faces Pasatrick Mahomes
and the Kansas City Chiefs, which if you've watched the
Chiefs play defense this year, there's no guarantee the Ravens
are going to be able to do that regardless of
where that game is. The Chiefs have been scary good defensively,
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stopping the run and getting off the field on third down.
And it's amazing that they're the only unbeaten team left
in the league right now, considering Mahomes has thrown more
picks and tds at this point of the year.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Help me understand why more quarterbacks don't get under center,
because to me, I think it would help you with
play action. Let's say we're doing play action. The more
you have to kind of find what I'm doing as
a defensive player, it feels like it's to my advantage.
I would have Russell Wilson under center all the time,
just giving the thought lamar under center all the time,
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just the thought, why is it that you find offensive
coordinators or quarterbacks who don't want to be under center.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
I think the biggest thing in talking to offensive coordinators
is they want the quarterbacks eyes on the defense as
long as possible. From the gun. Faking zone reads and
doing that, you're facing the defense at all times, and
even in the playfake, you can cheat your eyes and
look up and see what's going on with safety rotation
to get an idea where you want to throw the football.
Back in the day, way back in the day, then
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when I played and there was a fullback on the
field and there was I formation, you know, you actually
physically took the snap under center, turned your back, and
sometimes really hardcore playfakes, those were hard cells. You had
your back turn for maybe a little little over a second,
and then you had to turn around. You had to
negotiate the pass rush, You had to figure out the
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picture had changed completely. On defense, Where were you going
to throw the football? You think back to guys like
way back in the day, like going way back Steve
de Bert, but even now, like Russell Wilson you mentioned
Aaron Rodgers. Those guys are so good in the mechanics
of the playfake. They sell it better than anybody. And
you know, it makes sense, I think in those offenses
to mix that in. But you know, with the advent
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of spread and I think just wanting to keep your
eyes on the defense. I think that's why you see
less and less coordinators willing to do that.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
I thought Boomer Sisin was the best I ever saw.
I thought at the timer he was. He was incredible.
I would be watching on TV and I wasn't sure
if he had the ball. He was that deceptive with
play action.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
I took the worst hit of my life on a
hardcore play fake like that. We were playing when I
was at Florida. We were playing Tennessee in ninety eight,
the year they won the national championship. Remember Sean Ellis, Yeah,
he's playing defense. He's playing defensive end. He's an All American.
He's going to go on in wreck games for the
New York Jets later in his career. It was one
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of those deals where it was hardcore play action fake
in the fourth quarter, third down, You're trying to get
the tight end on a drag route. You really got
to sell it. Al Wilson slamming up into the line
of scrimmage. I sold the craft out of it, except
our left tackle totally whiffed on Seawan Ellis. So when
I finished out riding the play fake, I'll ave Boomeris
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eys and I turned around to throw it. Sean Ellis
hit me right when I was here. He hit me
right in theurnham ball ends up sailing out of bound.
We got a punt. I jog off the sideline as
fast as I can. Newland Stadium is going crazy, and
the training staff runs out to me and they said
what's wrong? And I'm like, what are we talking about?
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A fine? They go, no, no, no, what's wrong. I said,
I'm totally fine. It's in complete repunting. They said, lift
your arms up. I couldn't lift my arms up. The
blood flow got spiked to my arms. I got hit
so hard I was running, flapping my arms, limb drumming
off the sideline. So I have a a PTSD love
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hate relationship with these hardcore play fakes. Let me just
tell you so, thanks for bringing it up.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Okay, great.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
You know, when it comes to watching these guys in college,
because you're an ESPN analyst who has made the biggest
who was surprise you the most? Is there a player
that stands out of you saw him in college, you
just didn't realize what he was going to be in
the NFL.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
You know, It's happened multiple times for me. I was funny.
I was thinking about this the other day. I called
Russell Wilson's first game in college at NCC date, I
called Patrick Mahomes' first real live action on the road
at Oklahoma State. And you know, in the moment as
young players, as young true freshmen playing, you know, they
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go through the struggles that every true freshman goes through.
And you know you're saying to yourself, well that this
guy's obviously counted and he's got a long runway ahead
of him in college and things are going to develop
and things are going to change. But I don't I
think if you had asked me leaving the stadium both days, hey, like,
these guys are going to win Super Bowls. I'd be like, yeah,
you know, I don't really know, but it just goes
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to show, I mean, through coaching and just how people mature.
The jump that they make in college I think from
year one to year two and then in the league
from their rookie year to the second year, to me
is always the biggest jumps. Those are two names that
I thought they were going to be really, really good
college players. I felt confident saying that, but I would
say I had no idea they were gonna end up
being with what they were at the top level.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Talking to Jesse Palmer, tell us what you're doing with
the home field advantage contest.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
Yeah, I'm really excited about this. So obviously as a
player in the SEC, as a Gator calling games now
FORESPN for the last eighteen years, I've seen firsthand how
fans can really make and create on field advantage. So
I'm excited to be teaming up with Fairfield by Marriott
to find and reward some of the most epic fans
in all of college football. It's funny I think back
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to like being in airports or being at stadiums over
the years and talking to fans about the links they've
gone for their team. I met a fan once that
said he drove overnight through five different state lines to
be at the game and sure his team on it.
I've talked to fans that have said that they wear
the same shirt, they wear the same jersey, and they
don't wash it because their team never loses when they do.
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It's kind of gross, but it works for them and
their team wins. But this is part of what I
think makes college football so unique and so special. So
we want to hear these stories. So we're going to
reward fans with the most epic stories with VIP experiences
at the home stadium of their favorite team. So I
really encourage college football fans out there to go to
fairfieldfan dot com where they could submit their great stories.
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They have until November eighth to do it, and I
can't wait to hear them.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
He's also launched Jay Palmer line of menswear and really
some great stuff. Send us some gear and in collaboration
with a fanatics sports platform. How do you fake sincerity
on The Bachelor or that you are empathy or like
there have to be times when you want to laugh
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but you can't.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
I feel like as a Canadian. I'm generally pretty empathetic
and compassionate myself. I check that box just naturally based
on being born in North York, Ontario. But yes, there
are times when on the outside I'm trying my best
to look stoic and on the inside I'm asking myself, WTF,
(26:57):
what is going on? What is happening right now? There's
you know, Mike Tomlin does it every week you see
him doing There's a lot of coaches throughout the league
that have that same looking. On the inside, they're thinking
something else, and that's that's part of that. That's part
of the act. I think is as host of the
Bachelor franchise.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
But have you ever wanted to laugh but you know
you can't laugh in that situation?
Speaker 4 (27:21):
Yes, but you're laughing on the inside. So isn't that
the same?
Speaker 3 (27:26):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
There's nothing nothing better than a good like you gotta
be kidding, like what are you doing? Yeah, like you're
back on Jeopardy. Would just have to laugh sometimes when
you'd be like, come on, you don't know who Tom
Landry is.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
Yeah. I know there are times, but in the end
of the day, Dan, listen, it's their own journey. They
have to forge their own path. My job is just
the condom. I'm just there to help guide them. I'm
like the I'm like the rails in a bowling alley.
I just try to keep the ball somewhere in play.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Okay, but how many? How many scenes are deleted? Like
how often do you shoot something? Man? We can't show
that all the time.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
I mean, we're filming thousands of hours a season that
has to get condensed and edited into a two hour
or one and a half hour live show. So there's
I mean, I've flown halfway around the world to sit
down and have a chat with either the lead or
with another cast member, and it never saw air. And
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that happens all the time. Stuff gets taken out, and
so there's so much stuff that people at home will
never ever see.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
He's Jesse Palmer.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
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Speaker 3 (28:51):
Great to touch base with you. Hope, the family's good.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
Everybody's good. Dan, how's the shoulder doing? By the way,
before we go.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
It's left shoulder, so I'm mean still got free reign
to be able to throw, you know, I like to
I like to sling.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
It a little bit.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
I was gonna say, listen, Dan, all those years going
through thirty off the tea box with the big state man,
there's a price to pay for that.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Did you ever have shoulder surgery?
Speaker 4 (29:14):
I broke my right classical?
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (29:17):
And I had a titanium rode put into it. So yes,
that was.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
That was your nickname, wasn't it. I think.
Speaker 7 (29:25):
Good old um back to pass for different reasons. So hey, uh, great,
great to talk to you, brother. That's Jesse Palmer.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
He has been college football analysts, The Bachelor and The Bachelor.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
There's the Old Titanum, the old Titanium ride.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Yes, sir, who wants to play the Bronnie James Game?
Let's do it alrighty? Now about some music there, Marvin
for the Bronnie James Game. And let's go to our host, Paulli, PABs.
Speaker 8 (30:01):
Paul, Thanks Dan. Let's pull the bandit on this one
now because it's one night only. Starting with who thinks?
Does anyone think lebron James Junior does not play tonight?
Does not play a second. Nobody, that's what I thought.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
All right.
Speaker 8 (30:20):
For those of you who think he's playing, which is everybody,
I need the exact quarter and time that he checks
into the ball game, all right, quarter in.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Time, seven minutes and twenty two seconds into the second quarter.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
Todd, four minutes and twenty four seconds left in the
first quarter.
Speaker 6 (30:39):
All right, Seaton, first quarter, seven minutes and twenty three seconds.
Speaker 9 (30:46):
Okay, Marvin, second quarter, two minutes and eighteen seconds.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Into the second quarter, left in the second left, okay,
before halftime, Okay.
Speaker 8 (30:56):
I'll go third quarter with two and a half minutes
to go, okay, all right. Next question is the over
under is on points? We're setting it two and a half.
Does anybody I think that's fair?
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Okay?
Speaker 8 (31:12):
Or should be three and a half because he's not
a bad three point shoot. All right, let's go the
over U nine points for Bronnie James Night. We're setting
it two and a half.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Who likes the over? I like the over, Seaton likes
the over. Mar I'm gonna take the over too. Yeah under,
I'll go under. I'm gonna go under two I mean
under as well? Yeah under as well? Two more? Oh
my god, how does Lebron.
Speaker 8 (31:37):
James Junior score tonight if he scores, how lay up jumper,
two point jumper or a three?
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Todd, I think it's gonna get a nice bounce past
and it's gonna be like a layup type shot.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
From his dad.
Speaker 10 (31:49):
Yeah, hopefully, man Seaton, I'm gonna go mid range, based
range jumper. Yeah, jumper, wide open, kick it out to him,
bang knocks it.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Down here Marvin.
Speaker 9 (32:04):
Crazy, I have the same exact answer as Fritzy. Will
bounce past layup as he's cutting to the basket.
Speaker 8 (32:09):
Okay, Paul, I'll go a little rebound, stick back, a
little garbage time.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
I'm going to go free throw, take it to the hoop,
and yeah.
Speaker 8 (32:21):
Last question, final question of this game, goodness. If Lebron
James Junior Bronnie, as he's called, scores tonight, who has
the assist, his dad or the field?
Speaker 4 (32:34):
Todd, I'm gonna go to the field, although I help
with Lebron.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
See, I think I'm gonna go field.
Speaker 8 (32:42):
Marvin going with Max Christie calling your shot, I'll go.
I love a good Hollywood ending. I want to go
dad with the assist.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Well, the fact that he's going to get fouled on
the play, I'm gonna get I'm gonna say, Anthony Davis
gets it out to him as he's double teamed, and
Ronnie is going to the hoop and then we're gonna
call the fount and Bronnie.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Goes to the line. That's it.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
We've done it. Yeah, but yeah, Ronnie James game when
we come back soft soft according to the Patriots? Is
it soft according to you and Bill Belichick.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAPP.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Drod Mayo is the rookie head coach with the Patriots,
and he had this to say about the Patriots loss
this past weekend when they were in London.
Speaker 11 (33:42):
Disappointing game. Disappointing game. We came out, we started fast.
What I would say is we're a soft football team
across the board. We talk about what makes a tough
football team. That's being able to run the ball, that's
being able to stop to run, and that's being able
to cover kicks. And we did none of those today.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Bill Belichick and his appearance on The pat Me Show
commenting on girod Mayo's comments, I'm kind.
Speaker 12 (34:05):
Of hurt for those guys because they call them soft.
They're not soft. But they were the best team in
the league last year against the run. Those guys that
out there went out there and did it even though
we couldn't score many points offensively. So I don't know,
I feel bad for the defensive players on that one
because those guys, uh that that's a tough group. I mean,
John Jones, Gotshaw Wise, Jenny's those those are all the
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ou Those guys are all tough players, like they'll they'll
strap it up and go dougger.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
I mean, they're they're tough guys.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Okay, it's it's just so weird to hear Bill Belichick
so dramatic and enthusiastic coming to the defense of his
Patriot defense. You know, the the the buzzword soft. Calling
anybody soft, including our listeners. You know that gets attention.
You're calling your your now, this is everybody. D Mayo's
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talking about the entire team, not just the defense, but
you are reflection of your coach. Drod Mayo said it
should be saying, look, I have to get them to
play tougher. If we're soft that's because I've made them soft.
I get coaches are always you know, I go back
to you know, Bill Parcells, that you know your your
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team is a reflection of you, how you play, how
you coach, what you demand. And I think Drod Mayo
has to take some accountability there.
Speaker 6 (35:27):
Yes, Bill Belichick was like, I mean, these are a
lot of the same guys that the Patriots had last year,
and last year they were one of the best teams
against the run defense. So I don't know what's different.
Uh yeah, I mean last year this team was tough
as nails. I don't know what happened. Drod Mayo cannot
say somebody soft. It's like when you say somebody quit.
(35:48):
That's a word you can't use when you talk about athletes.
Oh you guys quit.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Now, if Drod Mayo says we have to be more physical,
this isn't a story soft. And Drod Mayo was not soft.
I mean, he was a tough player, but he's got
to frame that better. And that's a poor job. You're
saying everybody across the board, everybody's soft, and that's what
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he's saying, everybody's soft. Okay, I don't you get caught up.
These guys get brought in after a loss. You know,
maybe you get fifteen minutes cooling down period, then you
go to the press conference. You know, he saw his team,
you know, lose another game, get embarrassed, and uh whatever
his definition.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
See.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
That's what I would ask if Drod Mayo was on
right now, I'd say, coach, give me your definition soft,
Like what stands out and you when you go that
guy soft? What exactly are you seeing or not seeing?
That's what I would want to know. I don't know
if anybody in the media with the Patriots asked that.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
That's my first question. What does soft mean to you? Coach?
Speaker 4 (37:01):
Now?
Speaker 3 (37:01):
Are they not playing hard? Do they quit? Like, let's
get into this.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
If you really want to get into this, we're going
to dissect your team and its personality. Tell me what
soft means to you, because it might mean something different
than how your team is being portrayed. There's nothing good
that comes out of this unless he is saying. And
I'm all in favor of a coach knowing his team,
how does his team respond when they play against the Jets,
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so they how do you get tougher? How did you
get softer? I got to believe it starts with the coach.
What are you demanding?
Speaker 3 (37:38):
Now?
Speaker 2 (37:38):
He might say, Hey, I know my team. I know
how they'll respond, Hey, I've said this before to them.
They know what I mean. Okay, but I mean I'd
love to have the opportunity to ask some questions here
and hopefully some members of the media will pick up
on some of these suggestions there. Not that they need
it from me, but I would.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
Like to know.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
All right, NBA tonight you got nick Celtics and then
Timberwolves in the Lakers as in the season. Wasn't that
long ago that Jason Tatum wasn't getting to play in
the Olympics, was it? You know, when somebody said, man,
it doesn't it seem like the Celtics parade was just yesterday. No,
but it feels like it was just yesterday when Jason
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Tatum wasn't getting off the bench in the Olympics and
this was going to be a big deal, or Jalen
Brown wasn't getting added to the Olympic roster.
Speaker 9 (38:28):
Yes, Marvin, Yeah, when Derek White, when Derek White comes back, Hey, guys,
all the Olympics one was that, oh, Jalalen, you don't
know anything about that. We were in Patti God, they
picked Derek White over Jalen Brown.
Speaker 8 (38:39):
This day in sports history Paul nineteen thirty nine, the
first televised pro football game telecast from New York.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
Brooklyn defeated Philadelphia twenty three fourteen.
Speaker 5 (38:48):
Niks.
Speaker 8 (38:49):
The La Rams in nineteen fifty set the NFL record
defeated the Colts seventy to twenty seven. Two thousand, Corey
Dillon of the Bengals ran for two hundred and seventy
eight yards against the Broncos, new record, and twenty eleven,
Albert Poohols of the Cardinals became the third player to
hit three home runs in a World Series game.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Nineteen seventy six, twin brothers Tom and Dick van Arsdale
played together in a game for the Phoenix Suns. I
got to see Tom play for the Cincinnati Royals, and
they were good shooters. Both played in Indiana, but they
played at the same team nineteen seventy six.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
All right, anything else that needs to be mentioned here?
What we learned, how you feeling, you know what you
just do it? See day without the sling.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Yeah, it's like when Jack Youngblood played in the Super
Bowl with a broken leg. I mean, you just play.
Not much difference, No, not at all. Terrell Owens played
in the Super Bowl broken leg. You just play Willis
Reid coming down, Gibbey coming to the plate against Ack.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
You just do it. Just put your head down and
you just do it.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
But I couldn't do it without the support and the
friendship of the dan Nes.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
Actually I could have probably would have done it just fine.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Actually, yeah, Jack day, I did. Speaking of which, Todd,
what'd you learn today? Jesse Palmer's nickname may may not
have been Titanium rock.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
See what did you learn?
Speaker 6 (40:14):
Jesse Palmer once got hit so hard his arms were flapping.
Speaker 9 (40:18):
Marvin, you'll be watching the Magic this season.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Yes, I will, and the Rockets, Paulie. Would you learn
a lot of fun today? Hope you enjoyed it. We'll
try to do better tomorrow. Talk to you then,
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio Final Hour.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
On this Tuesday, the host of the Bachelor, former quarterback
Jesse Palmer, will stop buying a little bit. Recapping last night,
the Ravens look dominating handled the Buccaneers, five touchdown passes
for Lamar, one hundred and sixty nine yards for Derrick Henry.
I like how whenever Derrick Henry has a good game,
it's always brought up to Jerry Jones when he does
(00:26):
his weekly radio show. Are you sure you couldn't have
afforded Derrick Henry? And then I think his latest comment
is he wouldn't have fit into our system. No, you
change your system with Derrick Henry. Do I want Zeke Elliott?
Do I want Derrick Henry? I think we're going to
have Zeke because Zeke's been in the offense before. Yeah,
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that was before when he was good. Derrick Henry is
that game breaker, he's that difference maker. You gotta have
eyes on him constantly. And he had two big runs
last night. And you know it's like pittures get better later. Well,
they used to. This is old school where a starting
pitcher would become more dominating the later in the game.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
It was one of.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Those strange things. You would think that you start out
and you're throwing hard. Well, pictures don't start out that way.
Then all of a sudden, you get to the sixth
or seventh inning, and then all of a sudden, you
see Kurt Schilling or Nolan Ryan, or Steve Carlton or
you know name. You know these great pictures and they
seem to be even more powerful. I always marveled with
running backs, and then it was pointed out to me
(01:34):
by you know, the great Jim Brown. He said, the
later in the game, you're going to get tired, and
we're going to take advantage of that. So Derrick Henry
can take advantage of that because third quarter, fourth quarter,
guys don't want to tackle him all night long, and
then all of a sudden he's going to break one
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or two of those. Having that advantage, I don't think
there's anybody else in the NFL who has that kind
of advantage. And it's not about how many carries. Maybe
he gets fifteen carries, but he can hit a home
run for you, and just having that element, that's where
play action. I'm always amazed when I watch teams do
play action. First of all, I would do play action
(02:16):
where my quarterback is under center, because it's harder to
see the deception is there. And Boomer Sison might have
been the best at faking, or it appeared to be
he was faking a handoff their play action. Why not
make the defense have to look find if you're giving
the ball to the running back or not. So I
would start there with play action pass. Now, if I
(02:40):
have play action and you have to respect Derrick Henry,
now it makes Lamar Jackson even more dangerous that he
can throw five touchdown passes. Spreading the well, doesn't have
to focus in on just one receiver, and you still
have the weapon of Derrick Henry. The big issue, and
it sounds strange saying this about the Ravens is their defense,
because their defense is twenty fifth or twenty sixth in
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the league. You had the Cardinals coming back to beat
the Chargers in a game. Feels like that will haunt
them and maybe cost them making the playoffs. As weird
as that may sound, you're supposed to win those games
and you have Justin Herbert throwing for over three hundred
and sixty yards but no touchdowns. NBA openers, Nick Celtics, Timberwolves,
and the Lakers will play the Bronni James game. When
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does he get in, how much does he play? And
will do over under points for him with the first
game of this season to a tongue of ioloa, met
with the media. We've been waiting for this. We didn't
know when he was going to be cleared and if
he was going to play. Do they want him to play?
Does the commissioner wanting to play? How much of a
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role does his family play in him needing to play?
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Wanting to play? Does he wear a Guardian cap?
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Like?
Speaker 2 (03:54):
There's a lot of things in play here and a
whole lot of money with to a tongue of ioloa.
So here's some questions that Tua was asked yesterday at
the press conference.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Well you wear a Guardian cat? Nope?
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Why personal choice? Okay, that's see. I need a little
bit more gray area.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
I need. I need a little bit more of a
you know what. I've tried.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
It didn't like the feel of it, but I won't
rule it out like that feels like no way, no way,
I'm going to look like that. That's soft. Not going
to do that. Play the next one. You've said it's
obviously your decision, and because you have so much more
information leaders, But how much risk do you think that
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you're taking the play?
Speaker 5 (04:45):
Again, well, how much risk do we take when we
get up in the morning to go to go, drive,
drive to work, get into a car crash.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Me, I don't know. Everything I think tastes less.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
So to answer that question, every time we all suit up,
we're all taking a risk that we could potentially get hurt.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Whether it's a concussion, a broken bone.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
Anything you get up off of the bed the wrong way,
you potentially could risk.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
He's spraining your ankle.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
There's just risk in any and everything, and I'm willing
to play the odds.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Okay, Okay, I can drive to work, but I'm not
playing football. And yes, we all run that risk of
something happening here. We're trying to reduce the number of
risk that we have when it comes to our health.
He is driving to work, but he's also playing football.
We know that he's had probably four concussions, maybe more
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than that. Who knows what he had in high school
or the number of concussions documented at Alabama. And look,
I'm not here to be all knowing and be a
father figure here. He's young, there's a lot of money
at stake. I don't know if he cares. And we
have a lot of former players who are giving their
(05:58):
opinions now. I respect to them because they played, but
they all are done playing. If they were twenty five
or twenty six years of age, they would probably be
saying what Tua is saying. Play the next cut from
the press conference, Mark, there.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Are a lot of people out there, legitimately worried about
your health and making sure that you're okay. What would
you say to those that are worried that you might
get hurt again? And this is oh that's going to continue.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
I appreciate your concern, I really do. I love this
game and I love it to the death of me.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
That's it, okay.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
It's hard to without sounding insensitive. It's hard to care
if he doesn't care. And these players are so interchangeable.
When you think about our fandom, and I've been watching
the NFL for over fifty years. They all come and go.
(06:57):
But I kind of know how this movie ends. You
hope it's not Dave Durrison or Junior Sayou And you know,
to be around these players, and you know, I have
a friend who played, and he's not all there. He
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is not all there. You can tell that there are
moments when he just checks out or he doesn't hear
he and it's it's right in front of you.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
But he's a friend, so that's different. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Tua, you know some of these other Dave Durrison, I
didn't know him. I knew Junior. Sayou but if I
told you that it was coming, would you still choose
to play? And you know there's no lawsuits anymore. You're
choosing to play. It's a dangerous sport. But you could say,
(07:55):
if I could say to Tua, hey, when you're forty
five years of age, you're going to deal with this,
I don't know if it would matter. I think the
player mentality is I play. This is how I got
to this point.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
I play. I love it.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
You're thinking with your heart that you love this sport,
but you just you know. I was around Jim McMahon
when Jim was suicidal, and it was there was nothing
you could do, like he had already played the game.
Now he's since gotten help and he's in a far
(08:37):
better place than he ever was. But you're around these people,
and you know, I have the fortune and misfortune of
being around them sometimes. But Tua in his background, how
he grew up, his heritage, does that play a role
in this? It probably does. I don't think you show
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a sign of weakness. And he wants to play. I
know there's a lot of money at stake, and I
can't put that to the side. And I can't expect
him to put that to the side because he's probably thinking,
you know, there's seventy two million dollars here, I can
play and remember the whole jiu jitsu and knowing how
to fall. And I said, that is nonsense. How did
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he get hurt? He lowered his head and ran into
Damar Hamlin. This has nothing to do with jiu jitsu.
The defensive player coming in to sack you doesn't go, oh,
he's going to know how to fall if I hit
him really hard, or he's going to say, Miles Garrett's
coming after me, I know how to fall. It doesn't
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work that way, all right, play play. The thing I
worry about is when you see somebody get their bell
rung and all of a sudden their arms freeze up
and they don't know where the they are and they're
shaking their head and you can tell me it's an ankle,
(10:03):
you can tell me it's a knee, you can tell
me anything.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
But we all know.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
And he's susceptible to more concussions. So did I think
this was going to happen? Yes, I did. I wasn't surprised.
Talk to somebody the Players Association off the record, and
you know, there's some real concern because of the optics
of this. You want the league to protect your players,
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but the players have to protect themselves too. And this
person said to me, We've talked to him, but that's
all you can do. And he knows that he's getting
paid and the Dolphins need him. I mean, that's bottom line.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
This is business. It is and I don't know what
we would do.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
I would probably play if I was twenty five, but
at twenty five I had I knew nothing, but if
I was getting paid this I'm the quarterback. I've had concussions,
so what I mean. I did stupid things athletically when
I should have, you know, shut it down and had surgery.
(11:22):
I've waited ten years to have knee surgery, and then
I had five knee surgeries in the Spanish seven years
after that, and now I have a replacement. Mee, that's
just me, you know, doing low level athleticism. He's playing
in the NFL. You've had these concussions. They're going to
be there. You're going to hold your breath every single
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you're going to watch him play. Unfortunately, he'll be musty
TV for all the wrong reasons.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
And that's because of this.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Now I can say, if that was my son, you
know what I would say to my son, I don't
want you plan anymore. You got money, you got seventy
five million in the bank. Let's think long term, let's
think bigger picture here. That doesn't mean he would do it.
And I don't know if to his dad says, hey
you can play, continue to play, okay, but it certainly
(12:21):
sounds like his resolve is I'm going to play. Hey,
I love this game until I die. I love this game.
There is no hesitation. And you know what, he couldn't
go to that press conference and be in doubt. He
couldn't give you any of that. Well, I don't know, Hey,
I gave it some thought. I mean, he has to
(12:42):
give a confidence level that he probably has never given before,
whether he believes it or not, he has to sell that, Hey,
this is who I am.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
I'm playing.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Hey, I'm you know, I'm If you worry about my health,
you know I'm still playing, that's okay.
Speaker 6 (13:00):
Yeah see, yeah, Like I don't really have a problem
with him still wanting to play at all. You know
that any other conversations about his long term health, that's
like between him the team and like his.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Wife and kids.
Speaker 6 (13:12):
Yeah, you know what I mean, that's really where that
Other than that, I couldn't care less. You can't tell somebody.
You could say, like, hey, if you wear this cap,
it might help you, and he's like, nah, that's all right,
I'm good. All right man, that's your choice, you know.
I mean, if you kind of want to do that,
then then go ahead. You can't get that out of somebody,
you know. And I think he's married.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
He's married and has kids.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Yeah, so you those are personal conversations. Yeah, I'm I'm
I just have seen this end. I know how these
things end. And even if it's let's say he has
one can let's say he doesn't have any concussions the
rest of his life in the NFL, but twenty years
from now, I mean, this doesn't go away. And I
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think that's what was alarming to me is I'm friends
with somebody who probably hasn't had a concussion in twenty
five years, but still has the aftershocks, still deals with
things lost some memory. We had Merril Hodge on the
show many many years ago. Hodgi played running back in
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the NFL. He told me that he got lost in
his own neighborhood going around the block in his car.
He couldn't get back home. He forgot to get back home.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
It's there. It's there for a lot of players.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
It's there for players you have no idea who they are,
they played in college. I mean, it's there. This is
front and center. He's making a lot of money. He
plays for the Dolphins. You know, the NFL is center stage,
and concussions have been really really important part here. But
I understand what he's saying. I do, and I would
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probably do the same thing if I was his age,
I probably would, yes.
Speaker 6 (15:03):
Yeah, like right, Like if he doesn't want to wear
the helmet, like, okay, that's your choice, if you want
to still keep playing, Like I actually respect him being
up there early, like this is my personal choice.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
I don't really care. I still want to play. I
love this game. You know.
Speaker 6 (15:14):
It's when you start throwing into the mix of those things.
I respect everything about what he just said, until he
was just like, well, hey, I mean you wake up
and get out of bed that way, then you might die.
Now you just sound stupid. Yes, you sound like you're
being an absolute moron when you say things like hey,
I mean you drove here, right, didn't you take a risk?
So you just sound like an idiot now and now
there's no respect for what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Yeah, he doesn't need to say, don't bring us in
its People die getting up out of bed every day.
I mean he has to just acknowledge. Look, I don't
I don't lead a normal life. There are inherent risk
with what I do. I signed up for that right,
and I will continue to play until I can't play.
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I appreciate everybody and their concern, but this is about me,
my job, teammates, family, and I have a commitment to them,
and I'm going to continue that. If you say that, okay,
you're going into battle. When Dale Earnhardt Senior died, Dale
Junior continued to drive, didn't think about not So we
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have these moments. These athletes are just different. They have
to be different, and Tua is certainly sounding that way.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
All right.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
When we come back, Jesse Palmer will join us. We'll
get to more phone calls as well. In the next
twenty minutes, we'll play the Bronnis James game, as he
probably makes his debut tonight against Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Back after this.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
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Speaker 2 (16:55):
Always good to see Jesse Palmer, ESPN college football analyst
and a host of ABC's The Bachelor Bachelorette. He's got
something cool that he's doing with Marriott in the NC DOUBLEG.
It's called Home Field Advantage Contest, as a nationwide contest
looking for college football's craziest, most passionate fans.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
He'll talk a little bit more about that.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Also, Jay Palmer's clothing line, which we just got a
collaboration with Fanatics, some really high quality stuff. Busy man,
Jesse Palmer joining us on the program. Can you help
us understand the mindset of Tua being a former player
and a former quarterback of being twenty five or twenty
six years of age and saying, hey, I still want
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to play football.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
I still want to play football, and Dan, I still
want to play football at a really high level. I
think Tua is about as competitive as they come. And
for a guy at his age already have three concussions,
it's scary. But I think he realizes the ceiling of
this offense and the ceiling of the team. And I
think for any competitor, whether you're a quarterback or whatever
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position you play, at the end of the day, you
want to be out there on the field competing, especially
when you believe you can be very good and you
can compete for Super Bowls and championships. And I think
that's the mindset too has taken into this.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
And also I.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Don't think you can go on the field and think
about an injury, like you shouldn't be on the field.
If you're going out there going I could get hurt.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
I can't play scared, especially at that position. And that's
the thing and I think all of us when you
decide to play football, especially at the national Football like,
you understand that there's an inherent risk every single time
you take the field. But You're absolutely right. In my
experience playing with players that were nicked up or banged up,
or even my own experiences, if you play not to
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get hurt, you get hurt. That happens more often than not,
and that's simply just not the mindset you can take.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Watching the Ravens last night.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
We've seen the Ravens regular season and we see them postseason,
and they're usually a different team. Yeah, you see now
with the Ravens, is this sustainable in the postseason?
Speaker 3 (19:04):
What we're seeing their offensive game plan.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
I mean it looks a little bit different to me.
With Dereck Henry and the physicality they have in the
running game. I mean, they've been running roughshot on everybody
from the very beginning of the season, but he's last
five games in particular, I think Dan during the win streak.
The balance has been tremendous. And it's not even just
Dereck Henry and Lamar Jackson running the ball. I'm really
impressed right now by the offensive line and what they're
doing up front. I know that was a big question
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mark coming into the year. They had some new faces,
but you're watching that game last night, it's not just
the holes. Derrick Henry's running through and the attitude runs.
But a touchdown pass Debateman down the right sideline. I mean,
Lamar has all day to throw that ball. The two
touchdown passes to Mark Andrews in the red zone, He's
got all day to throw the football. He's getting an
opportunity to survey the field and get through his progressions.
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He's so much more efficient that way. So we've seen
this story before. As you mentioned, this now has to
translate into the postseason, and he's got to be able
to do it if and when he faces Pasatrick Mahomes
and the Kansas City Chiefs, which if you've watched the
Chiefs play defense this year, there's no guarantee the Ravens
are going to be able to do that regardless of
where that game is. The Chiefs have been scary good defensively,
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stopping the run and getting off the field on third down.
And it's amazing that they're the only unbeaten team left
in the league right now, considering Mahomes has thrown more
picks and tds at this point of the year.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Help me understand why more quarterbacks don't get under center,
because to me, I think it would help you with
play action. Let's say we're doing play action. The more
you have to kind of find what I'm doing as
a defensive player, it feels like it's to my advantage.
I would have Russell Wilson under center all the time,
just giving the thought lamar under center all the time,
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just the thought, why is it that you find offensive
coordinators or quarterbacks who don't want to be under center.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
I think the biggest thing in talking to offensive coordinators
is they want the quarterbacks eyes on the defense as
long as possible. From the gun. Faking zone reads and
doing that, you're facing the defense at all times, and
even in the playfake, you can cheat your eyes and
look up and see what's going on with safety rotation
to get an idea where you want to throw the football.
Back in the day, way back in the day, then
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when I played and there was a fullback on the
field and there was I formation, you know, you actually
physically took the snap under center, turned your back, and
sometimes really hardcore playfakes, those were hard cells. You had
your back turn for maybe a little little over a second,
and then you had to turn around. You had to
negotiate the pass rush, You had to figure out the
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picture had changed completely. On defense, Where were you going
to throw the football? You think back to guys like
way back in the day, like going way back Steve
de Bert, but even now, like Russell Wilson you mentioned
Aaron Rodgers. Those guys are so good in the mechanics
of the playfake. They sell it better than anybody. And
you know, it makes sense, I think in those offenses
to mix that in. But you know, with the advent
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of spread and I think just wanting to keep your
eyes on the defense. I think that's why you see
less and less coordinators willing to do that.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
I thought Boomer Sisin was the best I ever saw.
I thought at the timer he was. He was incredible.
I would be watching on TV and I wasn't sure
if he had the ball. He was that deceptive with
play action.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
I took the worst hit of my life on a
hardcore play fake like that. We were playing when I
was at Florida. We were playing Tennessee in ninety eight,
the year they won the national championship. Remember Sean Ellis, Yeah,
he's playing defense. He's playing defensive end. He's an All American.
He's going to go on in wreck games for the
New York Jets later in his career. It was one
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of those deals where it was hardcore play action fake
in the fourth quarter, third down, You're trying to get
the tight end on a drag route. You really got
to sell it. Al Wilson slamming up into the line
of scrimmage. I sold the craft out of it, except
our left tackle totally whiffed on Seawan Ellis. So when
I finished out riding the play fake, I'll ave Boomeris
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eys and I turned around to throw it. Sean Ellis
hit me right when I was here. He hit me
right in theurnham ball ends up sailing out of bound.
We got a punt. I jog off the sideline as
fast as I can. Newland Stadium is going crazy, and
the training staff runs out to me and they said
what's wrong? And I'm like, what are we talking about?
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A fine? They go, no, no, no, what's wrong. I said,
I'm totally fine. It's in complete repunting. They said, lift
your arms up. I couldn't lift my arms up. The
blood flow got spiked to my arms. I got hit
so hard I was running, flapping my arms, limb drumming
off the sideline. So I have a a PTSD love
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hate relationship with these hardcore play fakes. Let me just
tell you so, thanks for bringing it up.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Okay, great.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
You know, when it comes to watching these guys in college,
because you're an ESPN analyst who has made the biggest
who was surprise you the most? Is there a player
that stands out of you saw him in college, you
just didn't realize what he was going to be in
the NFL.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
You know, It's happened multiple times for me. I was funny.
I was thinking about this the other day. I called
Russell Wilson's first game in college at NCC date, I
called Patrick Mahomes' first real live action on the road
at Oklahoma State. And you know, in the moment as
young players, as young true freshmen playing, you know, they
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go through the struggles that every true freshman goes through.
And you know you're saying to yourself, well that this
guy's obviously counted and he's got a long runway ahead
of him in college and things are going to develop
and things are going to change. But I don't I
think if you had asked me leaving the stadium both days, hey, like,
these guys are going to win Super Bowls. I'd be like, yeah,
you know, I don't really know, but it just goes
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to show, I mean, through coaching and just how people mature.
The jump that they make in college I think from
year one to year two and then in the league
from their rookie year to the second year, to me
is always the biggest jumps. Those are two names that
I thought they were going to be really, really good
college players. I felt confident saying that, but I would
say I had no idea they were gonna end up
being with what they were at the top level.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Talking to Jesse Palmer, tell us what you're doing with
the home field advantage contest.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
Yeah, I'm really excited about this. So obviously as a
player in the SEC, as a Gator calling games now
FORESPN for the last eighteen years, I've seen firsthand how
fans can really make and create on field advantage. So
I'm excited to be teaming up with Fairfield by Marriott
to find and reward some of the most epic fans
in all of college football. It's funny I think back
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to like being in airports or being at stadiums over
the years and talking to fans about the links they've
gone for their team. I met a fan once that
said he drove overnight through five different state lines to
be at the game and sure his team on it.
I've talked to fans that have said that they wear
the same shirt, they wear the same jersey, and they
don't wash it because their team never loses when they do.
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It's kind of gross, but it works for them and
their team wins. But this is part of what I
think makes college football so unique and so special. So
we want to hear these stories. So we're going to
reward fans with the most epic stories with VIP experiences
at the home stadium of their favorite team. So I
really encourage college football fans out there to go to
fairfieldfan dot com where they could submit their great stories.
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They have until November eighth to do it, and I
can't wait to hear them.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
He's also launched Jay Palmer line of menswear and really
some great stuff. Send us some gear and in collaboration
with a fanatics sports platform. How do you fake sincerity
on The Bachelor or that you are empathy or like
there have to be times when you want to laugh
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but you can't.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
I feel like as a Canadian. I'm generally pretty empathetic
and compassionate myself. I check that box just naturally based
on being born in North York, Ontario. But yes, there
are times when on the outside I'm trying my best
to look stoic and on the inside I'm asking myself, WTF,
(26:57):
what is going on? What is happening right now? There's
you know, Mike Tomlin does it every week you see
him doing There's a lot of coaches throughout the league
that have that same looking. On the inside, they're thinking
something else, and that's that's part of that. That's part
of the act. I think is as host of the
Bachelor franchise.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
But have you ever wanted to laugh but you know
you can't laugh in that situation?
Speaker 4 (27:21):
Yes, but you're laughing on the inside. So isn't that
the same?
Speaker 3 (27:26):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
There's nothing nothing better than a good like you gotta
be kidding, like what are you doing? Yeah, like you're
back on Jeopardy. Would just have to laugh sometimes when
you'd be like, come on, you don't know who Tom
Landry is.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
Yeah. I know there are times, but in the end
of the day, Dan, listen, it's their own journey. They
have to forge their own path. My job is just
the condom. I'm just there to help guide them. I'm
like the I'm like the rails in a bowling alley.
I just try to keep the ball somewhere in play.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Okay, but how many? How many scenes are deleted? Like
how often do you shoot something? Man? We can't show
that all the time.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
I mean, we're filming thousands of hours a season that
has to get condensed and edited into a two hour
or one and a half hour live show. So there's
I mean, I've flown halfway around the world to sit
down and have a chat with either the lead or
with another cast member, and it never saw air. And
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that happens all the time. Stuff gets taken out, and
so there's so much stuff that people at home will
never ever see.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
He's Jesse Palmer.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
It's the home Field Advantage contest nationwide search looking for
you the craziest most passionate fans fairfieldfan dot com. Also
check out at Fanatics the j Palmer clothing line, some
high quality stuff.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Great to touch base with you. Hope, the family's good.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
Everybody's good. Dan, how's the shoulder doing? By the way,
before we go.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
It's left shoulder, so I'm mean still got free reign
to be able to throw, you know, I like to
I like to sling.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
It a little bit.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
I was gonna say, listen, Dan, all those years going
through thirty off the tea box with the big state man,
there's a price to pay for that.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Did you ever have shoulder surgery?
Speaker 4 (29:14):
I broke my right classical?
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (29:17):
And I had a titanium rode put into it. So yes,
that was.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
That was your nickname, wasn't it. I think.
Speaker 7 (29:25):
Good old um back to pass for different reasons. So hey, uh, great,
great to talk to you, brother. That's Jesse Palmer.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
He has been college football analysts, The Bachelor and The Bachelor.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
There's the Old Titanum, the old Titanium ride.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Yes, sir, who wants to play the Bronnie James Game?
Let's do it alrighty? Now about some music there, Marvin
for the Bronnie James Game. And let's go to our host, Paulli, PABs.
Speaker 8 (30:01):
Paul, Thanks Dan. Let's pull the bandit on this one
now because it's one night only. Starting with who thinks?
Does anyone think lebron James Junior does not play tonight?
Does not play a second. Nobody, that's what I thought.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
All right.
Speaker 8 (30:20):
For those of you who think he's playing, which is everybody,
I need the exact quarter and time that he checks
into the ball game, all right, quarter in.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Time, seven minutes and twenty two seconds into the second quarter.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
Todd, four minutes and twenty four seconds left in the
first quarter.
Speaker 6 (30:39):
All right, Seaton, first quarter, seven minutes and twenty three seconds.
Speaker 9 (30:46):
Okay, Marvin, second quarter, two minutes and eighteen seconds.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Into the second quarter, left in the second left, okay,
before halftime, Okay.
Speaker 8 (30:56):
I'll go third quarter with two and a half minutes
to go, okay, all right. Next question is the over
under is on points? We're setting it two and a half.
Does anybody I think that's fair?
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Okay?
Speaker 8 (31:12):
Or should be three and a half because he's not
a bad three point shoot. All right, let's go the
over U nine points for Bronnie James Night. We're setting
it two and a half.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Who likes the over? I like the over, Seaton likes
the over. Mar I'm gonna take the over too. Yeah under,
I'll go under. I'm gonna go under two I mean
under as well? Yeah under as well? Two more? Oh
my god, how does Lebron.
Speaker 8 (31:37):
James Junior score tonight if he scores, how lay up jumper,
two point jumper or a three?
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Todd, I think it's gonna get a nice bounce past
and it's gonna be like a layup type shot.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
From his dad.
Speaker 10 (31:49):
Yeah, hopefully, man Seaton, I'm gonna go mid range, based
range jumper. Yeah, jumper, wide open, kick it out to him,
bang knocks it.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Down here Marvin.
Speaker 9 (32:04):
Crazy, I have the same exact answer as Fritzy. Will
bounce past layup as he's cutting to the basket.
Speaker 8 (32:09):
Okay, Paul, I'll go a little rebound, stick back, a
little garbage time.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
I'm going to go free throw, take it to the hoop,
and yeah.
Speaker 8 (32:21):
Last question, final question of this game, goodness. If Lebron
James Junior Bronnie, as he's called, scores tonight, who has
the assist, his dad or the field?
Speaker 4 (32:34):
Todd, I'm gonna go to the field, although I help
with Lebron.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
See, I think I'm gonna go field.
Speaker 8 (32:42):
Marvin going with Max Christie calling your shot, I'll go.
I love a good Hollywood ending. I want to go
dad with the assist.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Well, the fact that he's going to get fouled on
the play, I'm gonna get I'm gonna say, Anthony Davis
gets it out to him as he's double teamed, and
Ronnie is going to the hoop and then we're gonna
call the fount and Bronnie.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Goes to the line. That's it.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
We've done it. Yeah, but yeah, Ronnie James game when
we come back soft soft according to the Patriots? Is
it soft according to you and Bill Belichick.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
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Speaker 2 (33:32):
Drod Mayo is the rookie head coach with the Patriots,
and he had this to say about the Patriots loss
this past weekend when they were in London.
Speaker 11 (33:42):
Disappointing game. Disappointing game. We came out, we started fast.
What I would say is we're a soft football team
across the board. We talk about what makes a tough
football team. That's being able to run the ball, that's
being able to stop to run, and that's being able
to cover kicks. And we did none of those today.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Bill Belichick and his appearance on The pat Me Show
commenting on girod Mayo's comments, I'm kind.
Speaker 12 (34:05):
Of hurt for those guys because they call them soft.
They're not soft. But they were the best team in
the league last year against the run. Those guys that
out there went out there and did it even though
we couldn't score many points offensively. So I don't know,
I feel bad for the defensive players on that one
because those guys, uh that that's a tough group. I mean,
John Jones, Gotshaw Wise, Jenny's those those are all the
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ou Those guys are all tough players, like they'll they'll
strap it up and go dougger.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
I mean, they're they're tough guys.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Okay, it's it's just so weird to hear Bill Belichick
so dramatic and enthusiastic coming to the defense of his
Patriot defense. You know, the the the buzzword soft. Calling
anybody soft, including our listeners. You know that gets attention.
You're calling your your now, this is everybody. D Mayo's
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talking about the entire team, not just the defense, but
you are reflection of your coach. Drod Mayo said it
should be saying, look, I have to get them to
play tougher. If we're soft that's because I've made them soft.
I get coaches are always you know, I go back
to you know, Bill Parcells, that you know your your
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team is a reflection of you, how you play, how
you coach, what you demand. And I think Drod Mayo
has to take some accountability there.
Speaker 6 (35:27):
Yes, Bill Belichick was like, I mean, these are a
lot of the same guys that the Patriots had last year,
and last year they were one of the best teams
against the run defense. So I don't know what's different.
Uh yeah, I mean last year this team was tough
as nails. I don't know what happened. Drod Mayo cannot
say somebody soft. It's like when you say somebody quit.
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That's a word you can't use when you talk about athletes.
Oh you guys quit.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Now, if Drod Mayo says we have to be more physical,
this isn't a story soft. And Drod Mayo was not soft.
I mean, he was a tough player, but he's got
to frame that better. And that's a poor job. You're
saying everybody across the board, everybody's soft, and that's what
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he's saying, everybody's soft. Okay, I don't you get caught up.
These guys get brought in after a loss. You know,
maybe you get fifteen minutes cooling down period, then you
go to the press conference. You know, he saw his team,
you know, lose another game, get embarrassed, and uh whatever
his definition.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
See.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
That's what I would ask if Drod Mayo was on
right now, I'd say, coach, give me your definition soft,
Like what stands out and you when you go that
guy soft? What exactly are you seeing or not seeing?
That's what I would want to know. I don't know
if anybody in the media with the Patriots asked that.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
That's my first question. What does soft mean to you? Coach?
Speaker 4 (37:01):
Now?
Speaker 3 (37:01):
Are they not playing hard? Do they quit? Like, let's
get into this.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
If you really want to get into this, we're going
to dissect your team and its personality. Tell me what
soft means to you, because it might mean something different
than how your team is being portrayed. There's nothing good
that comes out of this unless he is saying. And
I'm all in favor of a coach knowing his team,
how does his team respond when they play against the Jets,
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so they how do you get tougher? How did you
get softer? I got to believe it starts with the coach.
What are you demanding?
Speaker 3 (37:38):
Now?
Speaker 2 (37:38):
He might say, Hey, I know my team. I know
how they'll respond, Hey, I've said this before to them.
They know what I mean. Okay, but I mean I'd
love to have the opportunity to ask some questions here
and hopefully some members of the media will pick up
on some of these suggestions there. Not that they need
it from me, but I would.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
Like to know.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
All right, NBA tonight you got nick Celtics and then
Timberwolves in the Lakers as in the season. Wasn't that
long ago that Jason Tatum wasn't getting to play in
the Olympics, was it? You know, when somebody said, man,
it doesn't it seem like the Celtics parade was just yesterday. No,
but it feels like it was just yesterday when Jason
(38:21):
Tatum wasn't getting off the bench in the Olympics and
this was going to be a big deal, or Jalen
Brown wasn't getting added to the Olympic roster.
Speaker 9 (38:28):
Yes, Marvin, Yeah, when Derek White, when Derek White comes back, Hey, guys,
all the Olympics one was that, oh, Jalalen, you don't
know anything about that. We were in Patti God, they
picked Derek White over Jalen Brown.
Speaker 8 (38:39):
This day in sports history Paul nineteen thirty nine, the
first televised pro football game telecast from New York.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
Brooklyn defeated Philadelphia twenty three fourteen.
Speaker 5 (38:48):
Niks.
Speaker 8 (38:49):
The La Rams in nineteen fifty set the NFL record
defeated the Colts seventy to twenty seven. Two thousand, Corey
Dillon of the Bengals ran for two hundred and seventy
eight yards against the Broncos, new record, and twenty eleven,
Albert Poohols of the Cardinals became the third player to
hit three home runs in a World Series game.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Nineteen seventy six, twin brothers Tom and Dick van Arsdale
played together in a game for the Phoenix Suns. I
got to see Tom play for the Cincinnati Royals, and
they were good shooters. Both played in Indiana, but they
played at the same team nineteen seventy six.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
All right, anything else that needs to be mentioned here?
What we learned, how you feeling, you know what you
just do it? See day without the sling.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Yeah, it's like when Jack Youngblood played in the Super
Bowl with a broken leg. I mean, you just play.
Not much difference, No, not at all. Terrell Owens played
in the Super Bowl broken leg. You just play Willis
Reid coming down, Gibbey coming to the plate against Ack.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
You just do it. Just put your head down and
you just do it.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
But I couldn't do it without the support and the
friendship of the dan Nes.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
Actually I could have probably would have done it just fine.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Actually, yeah, Jack day, I did. Speaking of which, Todd,
what'd you learn today? Jesse Palmer's nickname may may not
have been Titanium rock.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
See what did you learn?
Speaker 6 (40:14):
Jesse Palmer once got hit so hard his arms were flapping.
Speaker 9 (40:18):
Marvin, you'll be watching the Magic this season.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Yes, I will, and the Rockets, Paulie. Would you learn
a lot of fun today? Hope you enjoyed it. We'll
try to do better tomorrow. Talk to you then,
Hosts And Creators
Todd "Fritzy" Fritz
Dan Patrick
Patrick "Seton" O'Connor
Paul Pabst
Marvin Prince
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