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May 21, 2025 42 mins

NFL Live's Dan Orlovsky speaks on defeating the Dan Patrick Show at the Sports Emmys last night, and gives his thoughts on Flag Football at the Olympics. Hockey Hall of Famer Wayne Gretzky recounts countless memories from the ice, and breaks down this year's NHL playoffs. Plus, a ruling comes down on the future of the Tush Push!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to The Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio on this Wednesday.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Morale is high. It's fake, but it's high right now. Yeah, absolutely, seams.
Are you trying to get everybody up? Come on, everybody,
let's hear it. I can't hear you.

Speaker 3 (00:21):
Yeah, MP, he's here, big Frizzy, he's here.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
By the way, win or lose, we celebrate. T shirts
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Speaker 4 (00:35):
That's all T shirts are ten dollars. None of them
are specifically winter lose. We celebrate T shirts, just T
shirts for ten dollars. Oh so whatever we have left,
we're trying to get rid of all of our inventory.
So at this point we've marked them down to ten
dollars because we lost.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
So let's celebrate. But it's not a win or lose
we celebrate T shirt. It's not those are because oh okay,
yeah no, yeah, no no yet, okay, all right, Final hour.
Wayne Gretzky will join us. He wins awards, he wins
a lot of them. I'm like to know how big
his trophy case is it's got to be a room

(01:12):
because he's been getting trophies since he was probably seven
or eight years old.

Speaker 5 (01:17):
Yeah, Paul, I think I saw a feature on E
sixty or something that Wayne Gretzky's father has like this
house slash shrine to Wayne back in Canada.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
He maintains, Yes, I think he's got a shrine to
his son.

Speaker 5 (01:29):
I can't imagine any trophies that guy.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
Yeah, and these aren't participatory trophies like my kids got.
And then we finally just gave him the good will
is there, Like you'd have all these trophies, but none
of them for winning anything. Be like, oh, and because
you competed in karate, here's a four foot trophy.

Speaker 6 (01:48):
All right?

Speaker 2 (01:48):
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dot com, Twitter handle hit DP show. Yes.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
Todd one of the cast members of the very popular
successful in Emmy Win NFL Live on ESPN, which kept
us from receiving the award last night for Outstanding Studio Show.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
Daily Mister One, Dan.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
Or Latsky has just checked in to the top of
the final hour.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
Here, Hey, Dan, no worry.

Speaker 6 (02:16):
I'm.

Speaker 7 (02:19):
Doing very well. How are you good, sir? Doing crampy yeah,
I feel very poorly right now.

Speaker 6 (02:27):
Do you.

Speaker 7 (02:29):
I do?

Speaker 6 (02:30):
What?

Speaker 2 (02:30):
Do you think we deserved it?

Speaker 7 (02:34):
I think we deserved it as well. But you're a
good man, and people you work with are good people,
and I know there's only one winner, and it makes
me feel awkward now talking to someone who didn't win.
That was probably very deserting.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
You know what it's like when you throw a pick
six or something, You know, when you you have a
moment and you got a back from it. I mean, yeah,
can you help us understand, like, how do we come
back from such an embarrassing loss that we didn't win
the Sports Emmy last night?

Speaker 6 (03:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (03:10):
I think that you guys, you know, there's a couple
of really good self helped books that might be out
there that you can entertain too. Listen. I mean, we
did win, and I woke up this morning and two
of my four kids absolutely stunk this morning. So I
had to deal with life moving forward as well, no
matter we win or lose. So I looked at my

(03:32):
wife after we dropped off our daughter's fool, I said, well,
whether we won last night or loss, two of our
four kids gave us absolute attitude this morning. So here
we are.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
Well in all honesty, sincerity. Congratulations dan Orlowsky, ESPN analysts,
part of NFL Live, former NFL quarterback. Let's say five
years let's say ten years ago, I told you, you
know what, You're going to be part of a show
that wins sports Emmy. You would have said, what, You're

(04:05):
out of your mind.

Speaker 7 (04:06):
There's no shot. I won't even be in TV. What
is these sports Emmy? I didn't know they gave those.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
Out because I look at you and I keep thinking,
you're an offensive coordinator in disguise. You know you're you're
you're an analyst, But have you given up that dream
of being a head coach or a coordinator.

Speaker 7 (04:30):
I don't think I've given it up. I think I
you know, I want to be as always, I'm very
honest and transparent. This is I felt in the last
two years. It was probably the closest that calling had
come for me as far as the desire and the poll,
and probably after this past maybe four to six months,
that is subsided and it's probably the furthest I've been

(04:54):
away from that in a couple of years, just because
of the reality of where we are with our life
as a FA I've got you know, three seventh grade boys.
I've got a fourth grade girl. My wife loves living
where we live. We've made really good friends in town.
I don't have the desire to uproot that right now,
you know, with a with a want rather than a need,

(05:15):
you know. Unfortunate some people have to do that because
it's their only choice. I don't have to, and so,
and I really love what I'm doing right now, you know, Dan,
Like I think this process of going through being nominated
and then being a part of last night, you know,
it kind of I don't want to say re energize

(05:37):
this because energy is not what I need. It makes
me want to continue to climb things, you know. Like,
I'm gonna be honest with you. I was up for
analysts of last night as well. I was furious for
not winning. Furious. I was Everyone's like, it's an honor
to be nominated. I get that, you know, Like, but
I wanted to win that.

Speaker 6 (05:58):
I really did.

Speaker 7 (05:58):
And when Barkley won, I texted, I'm like, what the heck, dude?
And I was bombed.

Speaker 6 (06:04):
I was bombed. My wife.

Speaker 7 (06:05):
I was like, I want to go. I was being
a sore loser, a baby, and so like Uh, you know,
like I want to win that one day. I really
do so.

Speaker 6 (06:15):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (06:16):
It's it's been really cool to be a part of
the team that won, and I like, do I love
what I'm doing right.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
Now talking to dan Orlovsky of the Mothership the uh
Push Push We're waiting supposed to be voted on any minute.

Speaker 6 (06:31):
Now.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
What do you think? How does this play out?

Speaker 7 (06:35):
Yeah, it sounds like it's gonna get you know, it's
gonna get past that, it's gonna get banned. I just
caution everybody that there's gonna be consequences that come from
this that no one's really looking at. If it goes
back to the newest proposal, which is what Green Bay
has put out there, I believe language wise that no
offensive player can push or pull another offensive player. We're

(07:00):
totally changing offensive football then, and this is about way
more than just quarterback sneak. My mind goes to all
of those plays that the ball carrier or whoever gets
hit it like the three or four yard line, and
then all of a sudden, the two are three offensive
linemen come in. It becomes that will push you know,

(07:22):
who's got more desire at that moment to get the
ball across the goal line, because that play will now
if the ruling gets passed, will go from a touchdown
to then a penalty. And just so everybody understands, defensive
players are caught. First guy, make the hit, wrap up, second, third,
fourth guy, come in, hit, punch at the ball, put

(07:45):
your helmet on the football. So now, from an offensive perspective,
if this rule gets passed, I hand the ball off
to my back and he gets hit at the four
yard line, no one on my team can touch him
from that point forward to push or pull. But the
defense can come in and punch at the ball and
rip at the ball and hit at the ball. Then
we're changing football offensively in a way. And we're also

(08:09):
changing some if we're being tended defenseless player situations.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
Yeah, I still think Philadelphia is going to be extremely
successful at a quarterback sneak because of Jalen hurt. There's
nobody like Jalen Hurts in the NFL. Nobody who has
that much lower lower body strength at that position can
get that low And it's about leverage and I but
they you know, the Eagles imported Jason Kelsey to be

(08:38):
a lobbyist here at the owner's meetings. What could he
possibly be saying to these other owners that are going
to make them rethink their vote.

Speaker 7 (08:49):
I would imagine there's a little bit of the health
part of it, you know, in him speaking on his
own behalf or experience, because there's people who say there's
health concerns or injury concerns, and so him sharing that,
I think him sharing the unique ability to you know,
the way that they coach it, the way that their

(09:10):
interior offensive line does it. To your point, how Jalen
Hurts executes it, and how you know, it's not a
cheap play for them, but more is something that they've
really perfected because of the way they coach and the
people that they have. I'm sure it's an angle to
try to educate the owners, maybe differently than oh, they're
the only team that does this and it's unfair.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
How excited are you about the NFL being in the
Olympics with flag football? How does this?

Speaker 7 (09:41):
I think it's really cool. I really do. I think
it's very cool. My biggest takeaway is how smart the
NFL is. It's brilliant. You know, if you listen to
Commissioner Goodell and his words, he was saying, you know,
this opens us up even more to men and women,
all ages, all over the world. And so and now
you're you're taking the game of football that many of

(10:04):
US Americans know, and you're bringing a version of it
to all parts of the world that maybe don't know
a ton about it and maybe can feel that, oh,
I could play football like Dan. I've always thought the
protection the quarterback rule that changed years and years and
years ago was about kids. It wasn't about you know,
Eli Manning. It was about moms and dads letting their

(10:24):
eight or ten year old son watch the game. Because
the eight ten year old son the falls and level
with football is going to be the thirty to forty
year old who watches football, you know. And so it's
a little bit of that. This is brilliant business, you know,
stuff from the NFL, and it's you know these I
said this, Yesterda NFL live. These players in the NFL,
you climbed the highest mountain that you think you can climb.

(10:44):
When it comes to your profession, you accomplish it, you
can't go any further. And so now this gives them
another mountain to climb, another challenge to go accomplish. How
rare it would be to be a person that is
an NFL professional player, an MVP, a World champion, and
then an Olympic champion. That's I think it's very cool.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
Okay, but how many players will play for Team USA?
Who are NFL players? The team that will play represent US?
If we're trying to win a gold medal? How many
players will get that opportunity?

Speaker 7 (11:16):
Yeah, it seems probably half a dozen, you know, maybe
maybe ten. You know, by my understanding, you got to
try out. So how many guys are going to be
willing to just go try out? Because, let's be honest,
there's an ego element to these guys as well. We
all believe that we're the best and whatnot. Two, you
can only have one player per NFL team, per country,

(11:40):
I believe. So that means that Brian Branch and Jamier Gibbs,
both Lions, cannot play for the United States. Okay, you know,
so that limits your pool just a little bit.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
Okay, are you going to have thirty two players competing
for ten roster spots on Team USA? Like football? Is
that how this plays out? No?

Speaker 7 (12:05):
I don't think so. I mean, how many quarterbacks are
actually going to go try and do it. You know
how many our receivers you know, will be you know,
willing to do it. I'm sure there are going to
be some organizations that are a little bit cautious on it.
I know they all voted in favor of it. We'll
see how they feel about it in three years when
it's their Super Bowl window and it's their star receiver

(12:28):
that they're concerned about and whatnot. So I don't know
there'd be thirty two, but I do think that there's
going to be a decent amount of guys, at least
initially interested in that.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
Yeah. Can I submit this for next year's Sports Emmy
having you on it, having one and agreeing that we
deserve to win the Sports Emmy?

Speaker 7 (12:51):
Yeah, you could submit it.

Speaker 6 (12:52):
Yeah, you could submit it.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
Yeah, yeah, Yeah, I'm out a round of applause. Yeah,
it should be a very interesting NFL Live episode later
today for you, Dan.

Speaker 7 (13:09):
No, I'm bet you're not on today.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
Good for you.

Speaker 7 (13:14):
I'm not on today, I'm not. My sons have a
big lacrosse last regular season lacrosse game tonight, so I
don't want to miss that.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
Thanks for joining us, and congrats again.

Speaker 6 (13:24):
Thank you.

Speaker 7 (13:25):
Sir, I appreciate you. You're a legend.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
You know that, So thank you, thank you. That's uh.
Dana Loosky. Yeah, I've taken care of my part of this.
I'm the legend. It's the other part that's the problem.
I'm a Hall of Famer. The show is in the
Hall of very good. You know what, maybe I go
work for NFL.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
Seriously.

Speaker 4 (13:47):
Yeah, it is true because even when the Radio Hall
of Fame came calling, they inducted you and not the
show was like the Breakfast Club is in the Tommy
TJ Show, the Jimmy and Skippy Show, Sally and the
Commander's Show.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
Dan Patrick, Yeah, you are the Hall of Fame. Bob
and Tom are getting in, not Dan and the Dan. Yes, Marvin, but.

Speaker 3 (14:11):
You're going to the Hall of Fame for your influence,
very much like Vince Carter.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
I'm the Vince Carter of sports radio.

Speaker 4 (14:18):
So I Pat McAfee and their show wins the radio
on sports are on TV.

Speaker 6 (14:24):
Emmy or Dan Levatard.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
No, they're not gonna win one. I'm not without Stu
got all right, all right, let me take a break.
Let's clean this up. Wayne Gretzky is gonna join us
the great one. Oh dear, let's take a break. We're
back after this.

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Speaker 2 (15:55):
Pacers at the next game one tonight you have the
Oilers at the Stars game one. Last night, Panthers rolled
the Hurricanes five. Two more phone calls coming up. Well
make way for Wayne Gretzky, the Hall of Famer, part
of Turner's sports coverage of the Stanley Cup Final. He'll
be in attendance for all the games. Wayna, good to
see you again. How you feeling?

Speaker 6 (16:18):
I feel older, but it's great to see you. You know,
when you get your two youngest kids graduating college the
same week, you know you're getting old. So Thursday NYU,
Friday SMU, and onto the Stanley Cup Semis and the finals.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
Now, could you give me a shift on the ice?

Speaker 6 (16:37):
No, I'll tell you what happened about the age of
fifty seven. I was playing in a charity game and
I came back and I threw my bag down the
hotel room and I said to my wife, that's the
last time I'm ever going to skate, and she goes,
what do you mean? I said, I was scared to death.
I was going to fall and hurt myself. And you

(16:59):
can't play this game with fear, right, So it was
time for me to officially retire, even though I retired
at the age of thirty nine, but I stayed every
now and then my son's hockey schools and I get
on the ice, but I don't play in charity games anymore.
I don't trust myself out there.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
But that's what makes what yarm or ynger or Gordi,
how did listen?

Speaker 6 (17:22):
It's amazing, GORDI how got twenty goals in the NHL
at the age of fifty? Think about that.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
Amo Yager.

Speaker 6 (17:30):
I don't know. He's got to be fifty eight. I
don't even know how hold he is. And he's still
playing games, although he told me one day he said,
I only play the home games now, though I said, well,
you're arrested. And Chris Jellio has played the fifty years
old and the way he played he was a maniac
at the age of twenty and the age of fifty,
So I have great admiration for older players, older athletes

(17:54):
who have excelled, Guys like Tom Brady, guys like Lebron.
It's pretty remarkable that you can go on at that
age because, you know, Dan, you've been around sports a
long time. The athletes are better today. They're bigger, they're stronger,
the coaching is better. And that's not a knock to
the past. That's just progression. Right twenty years from now,
it's going to be better today. It's different. Every sport

(18:16):
is different than it used to be. But the athletes
I think are better today.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
Did you lift weights?

Speaker 6 (18:24):
Brad Hall had the greatest line of all. Somebody said
to him, you lift weights, and he said, I've never
seen a bar bell score, but I've seen a lot
of We used to do a training camp. We would
come in and they'd have these kids from the university
that would do our you know, I guess they were

(18:46):
seeing what kind of shape you're in. So they had this.
You had the bench press one hundred ninety five pounds,
and I would just look at the bar and I'd
say to the kid, just mark me down for one.
I didn't even try to lift it. I said, how
many sit ups did I do last year? He said, seven,
I said, Mark me, so say they would think I

(19:07):
was getting better, But listen, I did eight push ups
in training camp and scored ninety two goals. I did
one hundred and twenty five sit ups my last year
training camp, I got nine goals. There's no correlation.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
Right, When did you realize that Ovechkin could get your
goalscoring record?

Speaker 10 (19:28):
Well?

Speaker 6 (19:29):
When he scored on his back against us? When I
was coaching in Phoenix in about two thousand and seven,
I came in the locker room and I think it
was Rick Talckett said, the writing's on the wall. This
guy's going to be chasing you down. No, we knew
he was. Listen, he's a I said this. There's only
three guys, him, Messe and Gordie Howe that could play

(19:51):
with the finesse, the goal scoring touch and the physical
part of the game. Those three guys did that. Now,
maybe Mark had little bit more creativity with passing, but scoring.
Mark scored big goals all the time. Gordy House scored
big goals. But if they weren't scoring, they'd run through you.
And that's what those three guys have in common.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
But explain to us that it's the hardest thing to do,
aside from hitting a baseball. But you're on skates with
a stick and guys are trying to beat the hell
out of you when you have the puck on your stick, Like,
what were you looking for?

Speaker 6 (20:29):
Well, people always say, how did you score that goal?
Did you see that open spot? Did you scout the goalie?
You know, maybe where his tendencies were and what was
his weakness. The game is so fast to me, I
was just shooting, trying to get an open spot, trying
to hit the net. It was my biggest pet peeve

(20:51):
in the world when you go all the way down
the ice and the guy would shoot the puck and
miss the net. And if you look at Mike Bossi
and Brett Hull and Vets and you're a Curry Mario,
they didn't miss the net. They hit the You can't
score if you don't hit the net. Common sense, Right,
game's too fast to now. In practice, you get out
there and you put up targets and you work on

(21:12):
things like that. But during the game, the game's too fast.
You're just trying to get it to the net.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
Do you hold a grudge against anybody?

Speaker 6 (21:20):
Do I?

Speaker 2 (21:21):
Yeah? From your playing days, no, As.

Speaker 6 (21:23):
A matter of fact, the exact opposite. I have so
much more respect for the players I played with and
against today. Even back then, now, listen, there was a
lot of guys that didn't like because they're trying to
win and I was trying to win. But today, even
even the guy that played me the hardest, the guy
like Dennis Potvan, if he called me needed a favor,

(21:46):
I would try to drop everything and try to help him.
You know, we become one. There's one common thing that
we all have as professional athletes. One day we're going
to be alumni. We're all going to be retired, right,
So I got a great respect. Now. There was a
lot of guys that probably hated me when they played
against me, and there's a lot of guys I didn't like.
But when it's all said and done, it's like the

(22:07):
other night when you saw Dallas, Jamie Benn and Scheifeley
battled for six games like real men. They were physical, hard,
played hard, and that's what makes our game so great.
The emotions that they showed after the game and the
sportsmanship and the respect they had for each other was
truly remarkable. I happened to be at the game and
I thought it was just amazing.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
Talking to Wayne Gretzky the Hall of Famer. Does your
wife ever call you the great one?

Speaker 6 (22:35):
No? Every time that she probably says, do you think,
why do you think you're the great one? I will
tell you. I was having dinner with Charles Berkley one
night in Phoenix and my son and I and we're
sitting there, and his wife said, great one. When you
passed me in the salt, and I went to grab

(22:56):
the salt and his hand was already there, and he said,
in this house they call me. My son was fifteen.
Then he thought it was the greatest thing in the world.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
Where are all your trophies?

Speaker 6 (23:11):
I have one trophy here that Rocket Richard gave me,
the only hockey trophy. I have one of the trophies
I'm most proud of. I have here Sports Illustrated Sportsman
in the year. That's the only two I have here.
The rest are at the Hockey Hall of Fame or
in the basement of my since past parents' house that
my nephew lives in, and my trophies are still there.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
How important were trophies to you, aside from the Stanley Cup?

Speaker 6 (23:39):
Yeah, you know Glenn Say there had a theory in
training camp. I want to win the scoring race. I
want to win the best defenseman. I want a goalie
to be the best goalie. I want to have the MVP.
But with all that, I want the Stanley Cup. So yeah,
it was. He put it out there. He didn't hide
from it at all.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
The difference between playoff hockey and regular season hockey, and
it's not, you know, that much different than other sports.
You know, maybe the NFL is still in each game
because there's only seventeen games, but what is it about
playoff hockey that we you know, it's just different. It's
different than any other sport.

Speaker 6 (24:17):
It really is. Although I'm a basketball fan, I think
the basketball has been phenomenal this year in the playoffs,
and you can tell those guys have gone to another level.
Our game has just always been that way, and I
think one of the things that happens is it's so
hard to referee our sports so fast, and our referees
do a great job. And when we get in the
playoffs and referees tell both teams, look, you can play

(24:40):
hard and you play physical, just don't be stupid. We
don't want to be the difference in the hockey game,
and so the game becomes extremely physical and very fast,
and it's hard to it's hard to win in the
National Hockey League. And I thought Carolina played a really
good hockey game last night. Unfortunately, they're playing maybe the
best team in the last three years and they get
beat And now you play all year to get home

(25:02):
I sadvantage and you lose it in one night, and
so I expect and anticipate Burns and company will come
out flying tomorrow night.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
I don't know if you're like Peyton Manning when you're
watching Peyton gets upset, you know, when he's watching bad football,
or somebody does. I don't know, how are you similar
to Peyton Manning when you're watching hockey and you're like,
why are they doing something? Or you get you know, visibly,
you know, upset with what you're seeing.

Speaker 6 (25:28):
No, not at all. I don't critique it, if anything
on the opposite, I just sit and enjoy it. I
really appreciate good plays. I really appreciate good coaching. And
you can see the four teams are in the finals.
They all have good coaching and that's part of the
reason they're there. And then they have the skill and
the talent to go with that. So now I know

(25:49):
how hard these kids work, and I never critique them.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
The honest place where you were recognized is where.

Speaker 6 (25:56):
Oh gosh, I don't know, maybe roam. You know, it's amazing.
I retired twenty five years ago. I think I get
recognized more now than I did in nineteen ninety nine.
But people are nice. It doesn't even phaze me. You know,
people are always nice. Everybody has their opinions. Who the
best player was, who the best teams were? We all

(26:17):
do That's what makes sports great and all. We don't
have the right answer. It's your opinion, as simple as that.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
But Michael Jordan thinks he's the greatest basketball player of
all time.

Speaker 6 (26:26):
Yeah, he was the greatest athlete I think of all time.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
Do you think you're the greatest hockey player of all time?

Speaker 6 (26:30):
No, No, not at all. I always said that Gordi
Howe and Bobby Orr were the two greatest hockey players
that ever lived. I made my life because of those
two guys. They took the NHL to another level and
gave me an opportunity. No, I would never say that,
and I mean that sincerely. I tell my kids that

(26:52):
i'd say publicly, I have too much respect for both
those players that I would think that I was better
than they were.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
But if I said, I can wipe away everything you
did in hockey, but you would have been a Hall
of Fame baseball player for the Tigers, and.

Speaker 6 (27:06):
I would have told you I was the greatest baseball
player ever. I can bragg about my baseball.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
But you told me years ago that you that really was.
That was a goal. Like you loved the Detroit Tigers.

Speaker 6 (27:20):
Oh, I really did. I grew up an Ernie Harwell fan.
Mickey Lolis. One of the great days of my life.
I watched Mickey lowlts pitch when I was thirteen, and
I wrote it in my book. We're playing in Detroit
one day and trainer came in and said, there's a
guy out here that wants to sign his book. Can
I bring him in? I said, sure, it was Mickey
Lolis because I wrote the story in the book, and

(27:42):
so I got a chance to meet him and get
a picture taken with him. And then through those years,
you know, Mark the burn Fidrich came and you know,
and then when Sparky Anderson went to Detroit and they
won the World Series, So I grew up a huge
Tigers fan. Now I love the Blue Jays, but they
weren't there till seventy six, so I'd been fifteen years
in baseball by the time the Jays were sort of founded.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
Were you starstruck first time you met Jordan?

Speaker 6 (28:08):
Yeah, I think everybody is. Like I said to me,
the two greatest athletes ever were Michael Jordan Muhammad Ali,
and I got the chance to be friends with both
of them. I got a chance to spend a lot
of time with Muhammad La. I went to New York
in nineteen seventy eight when I signed the WHA and

(28:28):
I was with Gordi Howe and Bobby Hall, and I
was his kid. Just starstruck, right, And We're in the
Plaza Hotels the first time I'd ever been to New
York and there I was standing there. Muhammad La came
over to shake Gordy house hand and I almost fell
over like that. And then five minutes later, Pat Boone
came over to say lo to Gordi Howe, and I said,

(28:49):
is there anybody this guy doesn't know? So he fascinated
me from the very first time I ever met him.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
Yeah, but they have to be starstruck when they meet
you too.

Speaker 6 (29:00):
I don't think so, I hope not, because I'm like you,
I'm a normal guy.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
Well you are. You're so approachable, you know, And I
liken you to kind of Joe Montana. If people see you,
they don't realize that guy did what he did in
his sport. Like you see Montana, he looks like he's
a kicker. You don't think that's one of the greatest
quarterbacks of all time. Like you're disarming because you're very

(29:25):
generous to people and very gracious.

Speaker 6 (29:27):
Yeah, people are nice and listening. I got everything in
my life because of hockey and because of fans. But
I remember our sons played together, and I used to
love the fact that Joe was there because we go
to the high school football games and nobody even cared
that I was. Everybody was bothering and getting pictures with Joe.
He made my life in high school that much easier.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
But that's I mean, it's been a pretty amazing career.
But like any goals that, what's left here for you?

Speaker 6 (29:56):
Oh, I don't know. Right now. I'm proud to or
five grandchildren and two more on the way. And you
know families for me now, and you know, I did
my hockey thing and I loved every minute of it.
Now I'm a fan. I enjoy being on TNT. They're
wonderful people and the people we work with. And Liam

(30:19):
is unbelievable. He's our quarterback and you know he does
all the legwork and all the heavy lifting. And I
just got to sit there and talk hockey. How nice
is that you get to sit there and I don't
have to worry about getting hit or run or knocked
over the head. I can just sit there and have fun.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
But you're healthy, very healthy, okay.

Speaker 6 (30:39):
Although like everyone else, you know, I had some pre
cancerous things taking off my face in the last few weeks, but.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
But no concussion stuff.

Speaker 6 (30:47):
Like if you asked my wife, she would tell you,
I forget things I just told you an hour ago.
You lost that back in those they told you to
go home, have a beer, go to bed, have an AskMen,
we'll come and skate at you tomorrow. You'll sweat it out.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
Do you have any pictures of you fighting, like the
frame photos of you. Yeah, it was going to happen
very often. I'm curious if I was.

Speaker 6 (31:18):
Talking about my sports Illusterates Trophy. I got one fight
really in my career. Neil Broughton wasn't even his fault.
I jumped him. The guy flies from New York and
he's out there giving this presentation about how my sportsmanship,
how I don't fight. First shift in, I'm fighting Neil Broughton.

(31:41):
I get to the bench and I'll never get MESSI
said to me, what were you doing? And I said,
I don't know. But Davison Micah says, the good news
is that's not even a fight. That's called cat fighting,
so that doesn't count.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
But did you throw a punch?

Speaker 6 (31:56):
I don't even remember. I think I kind of, I
don't know. We got to the pebbly box and I
remember I looked over and I said, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
I apologize Neil.

Speaker 6 (32:11):
I think he's more shocked than the seventeen people at
the game and the nineteen teammates I had on the
bench going what was that all about? One night we
were playing in Chicago, Bob Murray kind of he's always
whacking me and hacking me, and I got so mad
at grabbed him and he threw me on the ice
and he had his hand like this, and I'm looking
over at our bench and there's five guys with their

(32:32):
legs over the boards and he's holding me. He goes, now,
don't move. I'm not gonna hate you. And I got
back to the bench and I told all the guys,
I said, nobody's allowed to touch him the rest of
the night.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
But did you give like Dave Simenko an extra gift?
He was your protector. They had to have one on
each team.

Speaker 6 (32:53):
I'm guessing in those days everybody had sort of that guy, right,
you know the one I did give him. I gave
him my car that I wanted the All Star Game
in nineteen eighty nine and Edmonton, I guess yeah. I
brought him downstairs after the game. I said, here's the keys,
so you can have the car. So he was great.
He was a great teammate to all of us, and

(33:14):
he was beloved by the fans, the fans in Edmonton.
He was as big as anybody on that team. They
loved him to death. And you know, he was witty,
He was fine, and he didn't really want to fight.
He only did it if he had to, if he
saw somebody abusing a teammate. He never went looking to
hurt anybody and that's listen. That's the other thing about

(33:35):
our league, especially in those days. Those tough guys didn't
want to go hurt guys. They didn't want to go
after those guys. They fought the big guys, right, They
fought each other.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
It was kind of a code, all right, handicap. The
teams that are left in the playoffs give us like
a tutorial on what do you think is going to
play out well.

Speaker 6 (33:58):
I like all four teams because I think all four
teams are well coached, and I think all four teams
right now are getting goaltending. I think Autinger and Bob
Rovsky have proven to be two of the elite goalies.
Skinner last year got to the finals and had a
good run. He's got two shutouts in a row, so
he seems to be on a roll. Anderson in Carolina,

(34:20):
I wasn't. He didn't have a bad game last night,
but he didn't have a great game last night. The
thing between Carolina and physical I think Carolina is a
little bit faster and they the go, go, go go.
Florida is smart and disciplined. This general manager has made
some great deals. He's got to chuck. He got Bennett
traded for Seth Jones or Shawn On and on. So

(34:43):
it's tough to knock out the Stanley Cup champions, right.
So I like Florida, but Roddy Brunomore and I were
roommates at the Olympics in nineteen ninety eight, so you
know my hurts with him also, and he's done a
phenomenal job. Now everybody knows Edmonton that you know, we're
my life was made and I always vote for them.
My brother's the assistant GM. They have the two of

(35:05):
the best three players in the National Hockey League and
dry Sidle and McDavid questions the best player in the game.
They're going to have to contain him. Pete de Boor
has done a great job. And Dallas they made incredible
trade getting Ratting in. I think it changed their team.
The team that Dallas is playing Edmonton's playing this year
in the semi finals. Dallas is a better team than

(35:26):
they were last year and that series went six games.
So this series I predicted those seven games.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
My best your wife and the family. Great to see
you again and ut.

Speaker 6 (35:36):
Seeing you, and it's always a pleasure. I hope everything's
going well for you and your family too.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
Thank you, Bud. Good to talk to you.

Speaker 6 (35:43):
You guys all take care.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
How about that a great one? Bye Fritzy, Yeah jealous Yeah.
Wayne was it on the bus last night coming back
from the Emmys, said that I think we got a
ruling on the tush push and I'm gonna take a
break my thanks to Wayne gretzkype. We'll take a break

(36:08):
last call for phone calls, what we learned and maybe
some finality on the tush push.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
After this, be sure to catch the live edition of
The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six
am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAP.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
We've been waiting for a ruling from the NFL owners
meetings in Minnesota on the tush push where there be modifications?
Would they get rid of it? And PAULI, do we
have a final answer? Do we want to play the
tush push game?

Speaker 5 (36:41):
Possibly for the last time, the tush push game?

Speaker 2 (36:44):
All right? Todd? Will the NFL allow the tush push
next season?

Speaker 6 (36:50):
The touch push is done?

Speaker 2 (36:51):
Ain't Seaton? I think the tush push was pushed again
to another vote at some other time that the table.

Speaker 4 (37:01):
I think the tush push has still been pushed.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
Okay, Marvin, I think they banned it. All right. I'm
going to say they tweaked language, but they banned it.

Speaker 5 (37:12):
According to a number of reporters, the Packers proposal to
ban the tush push did not receive the required support.
Twenty four NFL owners would have had to vote against
it to remove it from the game.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
Twenty two owners voted against it.

Speaker 5 (37:29):
Oh Man, there's no other recourse this offseason. It will
stay in the game for the twenty twenty five season.
The Philadelphia Eagles moments ago tweeted out push on with
the picture of Jalen Hurts against the Packers doing the
tush push.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
Okay, little eleventh hour lobbying going on by the Eagles.
All right, Uh Ray in Texas? Good morning, Ray? What's
on your mind?

Speaker 6 (38:00):
ABP?

Speaker 2 (38:00):
I have a question for you? And then uh from.

Speaker 6 (38:04):
That movie Fight Club?

Speaker 2 (38:05):
My favorites.

Speaker 7 (38:07):
So, if you could fight a sports figure alive or dead,
who would it be?

Speaker 5 (38:12):
For example, I fight Bob Costas.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
Uh I, I don't want to fight anybody. Do you
guys have somebody you want to fight in the sports media?
Is that what he was asking there? Night Club? Yeah?
Seat and you got somebody you want to fight, not really. Yeah,
I can't. I've tried to let go of a lot
of that. Uh yeah.

Speaker 4 (38:36):
I feel like all that negative energy was really holding
me down for a long time.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
Ye weighing me down. I don't I don't have any anger. Yeah,
I'm all good.

Speaker 6 (38:44):
I was at the sports Semis last night.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
Beef who Yeah, I'm okay. I don't have enough energy
to have a beef with anybody. David in Ohio, John Clckery.
I'd beat the crap out of that guy. Oh, the
referee who calls Seaton Hall feel tight accurate. I had
to let go of that. I don't care how old
he is, David, David, he's in it. I beat the

(39:07):
crap out of that guy. Yeah, assisted living and you're
walking in there? Yeah, they stand up? Punk? What's up?
Where's your whistle now?

Speaker 11 (39:15):
Guys?

Speaker 2 (39:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (39:15):
Yeah? How about this? Is that a foul?

Speaker 9 (39:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (39:17):
All right?

Speaker 5 (39:18):
Break your broken hip?

Speaker 2 (39:20):
Yeah? Bet that was a fun David in Ohio.

Speaker 10 (39:22):
Hi, David, Hey Dan, Sorry, sorry you didn't win the
Sports Emmy.

Speaker 6 (39:28):
At least he.

Speaker 10 (39:29):
Didn't run out of the back of the end zone
like Dan Rolowski and I have something else to make
you feel better. The Red Sox Fantausy went oh to
six in the World Series after nineteen eighteen, after losing
all six times before finally winning on the seventh try.
So I think this is this is your purse of
the Bambino story.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
Thank you all right. Brian in Chicago, Hi, Brian, Hey Dan?

Speaker 6 (39:54):
Uh.

Speaker 12 (39:54):
First off, in the words of the great Bob Costas,
Hello loser. You I know man, but listen, you guys
are already back on the Ammy train. You just had
the greatest hockey player of all time admit that he
apologized in the in the penalty box. Come on, guys,
are already back on the train.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
I don't think that's going to necessarily put us over
the top. But thank you. Brian Amy in Arizona, Hi Amy.

Speaker 11 (40:22):
Hi Dan, one hundred and forty six feet. Yes, first time,
long time. I even't got my footsy shirt on that
says section rows feet. Love that my friend, my friend's
daughter passed away a few weeks ago from the flu,

(40:42):
and it's her high school graduation today. Her dad, Eric
and her family are huge fans, and I thought you
could offer a message of support and instruction on such
an emotional day for them.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
I don't know if I can do it just as Aim.
But I've appreciate you calling in and Eric, I'm glad
you listen. I hope you have positive thoughts today of
everything that she accomplished in his short life. It's emotional anyway.
Now you tack on that you're going to be there

(41:18):
to get her diploma, So good luck with that. Celebrate
nothing wrong with crime. We did last night at the
sports semis and on the bus and today on the show. Yeah, yeah,

(41:39):
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