November 19, 2024 • 54 mins
Talkin' Jake is fascinated by Roki Sasaki's impending free agency in MLB and had a great weekend checking out UFC and the Jake Pual vs. Mike Tyson fight, breaking it down with Dan Canobbio, then recaps the full NFL weekend!
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0:00 The MLB Offseason
4:45 Roki Sasaki
14:30 Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson
24:00 Calling Dan Canobbio
39:10 NFL Recap
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, and ognn awaken, Jake myself, Jake's story, Elie Bbd producing.
As we talk about the wide world of sports, and
we actually do get a little wide. We'll talk a
little bit of the boxing in UFC because you know,
I unfortunately got crazy locked into both talk some football
at the end. To start it out with some ball.
(00:24):
I want to talk about Roki Sasaki a little bit,
you know, just talk to Trev a little bit about it.
And now I'm I'm wondering if I'm flip flopping decisions
in my head and how much power he kind of
has this free agency as we enter kind of the
we're in a bubble and I don't know when that
(00:44):
bubble is gonna crack. We'll probably get a couple I
would say we get one or two weird free agent
signings this week, probably something unappealing, no offense to any
of our friends. The first name that popped in my head,
like Rowdy Tillez is a free I don't know, welcome
to Cleveland. No, I don't know. Like we've Michael Waka
(01:08):
got his contract done. We've seen the Halos get their
bidding done. That Yeah, I don't know if a team
wants to bring in yes Monti Grandal for next year
to do some pitch framing. He'll be available, but we're
really in this free agency hole. That's not gonna go
probably till around Thanksgiving. Uh, we'll see. Usually the big
(01:30):
fish control of the market. Soto is such a big
fish that I don't think he controls the market well,
gets tricky it for.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
What it's worth, like if you're if you think the
market will wait for him.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
He is.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
On paper doing things pretty ahead of schedule.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Right, He's doing meetings. He's about it.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Today is the Yankees meeting, which is supposed to be
like the last of the first round of meetings over
the weekend. I was looking at like, well, when did
Garrett Cole do his meetings? I think his first one
was in December and he signed at the Winter meetings,
So okay, trending early. But O'tani started around this time
(02:12):
too when he waited. Yeah, And I mean, you know,
you never know.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Everyone's everyone has the number in their head that they
think they're getting that if if they finally get to
that spot, maybe it's go time. Or you don't get
to that spot and maybe you got to do the
dance for a while, So I don't know. I mean
Sodo Sodo. I don't think that's gonna dictate too many teams.
The Yankees would obviously have to audible significantly, and I
(02:37):
guess see other teams. Maybe this is nonoxious Yankee stuff.
But you know, if you're the Mets, you have to
have a non Sodo plan. If you're anyone else who
we think is gonna be in on this. The Red
Sox supposedly tay Oscar, he'd be good there al East
play left field. The Monster's pretty close. Don't hate that.
If they take him from la Am, I rooting for
(02:58):
that because then I see t ask her a lot more. Anyways,
I don't know when this free agency is gonna get
get really going. It's kind of ironic if I had
to place a bet at the draftings sports book. Last year,
I went on vacation in December and free agency really
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took off a couple of big trades. Jimmy is going
on a big trip this year. That's also end of
Thanksgiving into the first week of December.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
So just.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Playing the jahn Boy media tea leaves, I'm gonna say
right in there, we'll get that Sodo sighing. But we
did some on Talking Baseball today. We did some MLB
buy and sell. One of the questions that got me
going was my guy, Roki Sasaki, who if you have
(03:53):
no idea, if you don't, if you weren't in on
the WBC, if you weren't in on MLB the show,
or Rokie Sasaki the kids have been video gaming with
for a little bit. He is the real deal. And hey,
if you're like, didn't we haven't we done all this
with Yama Moto? Should we just even stop like having
(04:15):
to label Japanese players this way?
Speaker 5 (04:18):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (04:18):
He looks the part, and he is the part. Fastball
sits at ninety eight. I think he's hit one oh
three on the gun before. Uh he's six three, good
frame to him, intense that it seems like this is
the guy, Like I feel like we heard about Sasaki
before Yamamoto almost and I think part of that is
(04:40):
he just turned twenty three. Uh so he's getting posted.
We've talked about him a little bit. If you don't
know how the systems work, nobody truly does. But there
are people he is getting posted and your team is
going to be able to sign him to essentially the
rookie major league contract. He will be under team control
for six years. You'll have him cost controlled and very cheap,
(05:05):
at least for the first three four years that he
will be. He is one of the most coveted free
agents because of that, and it's going to be interesting
to see where he lands. And we started laughing on
Talking Baseball today because the question was is he gonna
hold up the pitcher market and we both said, no,
(05:25):
I mean Roki Sasaki. He's going to be essentially for
free if you get him good. And I guess where
I landed. It was like, hey, you if he gives
you that's your sixth or seventh starting pitching pitcher, maybe
you trade one of those guys and you improve your
team elsewhere. Maybe you don't. You sign a guy like
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this that gives you the flexibility to do whatever you want.
It is interesting, Like I know, us as Yankee fans,
we haven't even been able to daydream of it. Everyone
assumes he's going to the dog in there, well not everyone.
A lot of people assume he's going to the Dodgers
because of their Japanese connection with Otaniymamoto. Padres are heavily rumored,
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and I do think it is funny if you go
on the internet and there's a good article by Will
Salmon not spelled like the fish double m. Will Salmon
from the Athletic talking about Sasaki coming over. A couple
things I need to highlight. One they interview his manager,
manager Masado Yoshi, formerun MLB pitcher, I believe, and he says,
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to be honest, he still has a lot to learn, which,
by the way, a good reminder of how awesome the
Japanese culture is. Any other country comes in and says
that this guy's like the next Hall of Famer, He's
the next Justin Berland or whoever you want it to be.
This guy's kid's a stud in Japan, and they're like,
(06:57):
he's got a lot to learn. Nice, always be learning.
The Yankees and the Mets in play, sure, Dodgers padres uh.
I'm seeing the Phillies linked. They were big on Yamamoto.
And then it throws out the Red Sox. I forget
(07:19):
if I said the Cubs or not, but a lot
of the big market teams and that's you know, some
of the comments on this Athletic article are you know
what you'd expect in a comment section. Unfortunately, Oh wow,
it's the big clubs that can spend, which is ironic
because they can't spend for him, but they can spend
for other players. So I guess I'm walking back my
(07:41):
thought process a little bit that he might not hold
up the market just because if there's a chance you
can get this guy. And I don't know. Today I
was talking about the Cubs, and I've talked about it
last episode. I don't know where Corbyn Burns is going.
I still don't. We daydream about Cordon Burns going to
the Cubs today, which I really like. It feels like
(08:03):
the impact move the Cubs can make to be like, hey,
we have a great pitching staff, we have a great
pitching staff, we like our lineup. Let's do this. No
rumors know anything there. I don't know if the Cubs
are gonna be big spenders or not spend at all
this offseason because they kind of like their squad. But
for example, say if he was in on the Cubs, Okay,
(08:26):
they don't need to spend on Cordon Burns now. They
would have a pretty sick top three from what we
know in Minaga steal and then adding Sasaki and then
if they were willing to spend the kind of money
for a big free agent, which again the Cubs have
been in kind of this weird middle area. Everyone we
thought they'd sign, they didn't. They did sign Dansby. That
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was a very real contract. That happ extension looks great, right, Yeah,
come on, hap should have been a Yankee. Okay, stop
with that that. I guess I have reconsidered what Sasaki's
free agency could potentially do the teams that actually think
they're gonna get him, because by the time he has
(09:11):
to BBD, I need you to help me out with
the posting, because he hasn't been posted yet.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
No, there's fifteenth, supposedly because I think December fifteenth is
the end of this year's signing period, and there's has
to be like a one month layover. That part's less important.
The short version is it would benefit him and his
former team to just wait until next year's signing period begins,
(09:43):
which I believe would be January fifteenth, where bonus pool's
reset and guys don't have to These teams wouldn't have
to back out of the deals with these other kids.
And so what's that? What's the thought process?
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Though that if they if they reset that, because they're
still to talking about posting him on December fifteenth, So
would they just not sign paperwork till January fifteenth? Uh, yes,
it would be.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
It'd be like a because I think it's a forty
five day period. So yeah, so they could wait till then.
Speaker 6 (10:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
The exact exact rules around it are fuzzy, but in
general it's pretty likely he doesn't officially sign until it
counts as next year, when books are clean.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
All of that. So with that being said, we're now
talking about January, which that's normally kind of the dead
part of the baseball season. That's when we're really searching
for topics. So teams can either be looking at it
as a Roki Sasaki bonus piece, which okay, if that's
(10:46):
the Dodgers. The embarrassment of riches there is insane. If
your a team like the Padres, who he idolizes you
Darvish or he did, I don't know where he's still lands.
He's twenty three, So people are wondering that West Coast.
We've seen that with a lot of Japanese players. I mean,
(11:08):
it's a kind of exciting club to be a part
of right that whatever the Padres are doing this offseaon,
we don't know they've got you know, Peter Sidler rip
that now a new part of his family is running
the team. I don't know if they're going to be
spending as aggressively as he was. Doesn't seem like it
(11:28):
that that's a team that would be significantly altered if
Sasaki says he's coming there. You can invest the twenty
five million you were going to bring in to bring
a starting pitcher now, to bring in a hitter, to
bring in two hitters, to trade for some dead money
from a team. You know, Peler's gonna get in the
mix that I guess. The Rokie Sasaki story for me
(11:52):
was kind of like like we we aren't in control,
and we aren't. He's gonna get to pick where he goes.
That's that's where I've been laughing and reading the article.
I compared it to like high school recruiting, because it
could just be one of anything he likes. It could
be Could it be Chicago? Em Nagas's buddy heard the
(12:14):
city's cool. He likes cold weather, no clue New York
has he always dreamt of wearing pinstripes. Has he always
dreamt of befriending the richest owner, Steve Cohen, or being
part of the change with the Mets. They said the
Mets recruiting pitch for Yamamoto was awesome. It just didn't happen.
(12:37):
So hey, there's something there. And they have code I
sang on the team. So who knows which one of
these things for a twenty three year old is going
to dictate how they spend their next six years. If
you want rings, seems like the Dodgers. Also close to home,
(12:58):
seems like the Dodgers, familiar teammates, seems like the Dodgers.
In a lot of people's heads, it seems like the
Dodgers until it's not. And if it's not, I'm excited
to see where as long as not see the Red
Sox listed here. No thanks, it's none of none of
(13:18):
their business, none of my business. You know. This article
is the Phillies. I don't know. I'm I'm not. I'm
not gonna believe in anything. I'm not gonna believe in
anything till it happens. Why, I don't know. We'll see.
(13:41):
I'm interested to see how his free agency affects the
rest of free agency. I was pretty flipping about it.
Today's talking baseball, and I think there is a chance,
whether it's a handshake agreement or whatever it is, it
could significantly change because there's depth in the starting pitching
free agents and this guy could be a potential one.
(14:05):
There's some rumors as Vello was down, was he nursing
an injury. I don't know. This guy's a guy guy.
He can reshape the whole young core of a team.
It's the Dodgers. Everyone watch out. And he was just
more in my mind than I thought this morning. If
I'm being real honest, I kind of want to talk
about more sports because I got lost in this sports weekend.
Speaker 6 (14:28):
Blitzball Battle five, a pair of winless teams going at it,
trying to avoid playing in that loser's bracket, if you will.
Team Baggage has never beaten del Kribe. How are they
gonna get it done later today?
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Well, I think they gained a lot of confidence in
that last matchup to spot the loss. One thing you
can take with absolute sudiny is somebody who's leaving with
a win from this one.
Speaker 6 (14:49):
So Baggage hit the ball exceptionally well. They came up
on the short end of the stick. In their first
game of the season, Del Kreibe did not get a
single hit against.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
Forgotten, a rotten different matchup here.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Today we go back to every single tournament played in
the warehouse. I think I've taken Team Baggage at every
game they've played. They do not want that skunk patch.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
I think I've got one rot so Fa. So I'm
gonna go ahead and pick Del Chariba. Why not, just
to help you out Kel. So that's why everybody's happy.
Speaker 6 (15:14):
I got Team Baggage. Stupidly, I picked them to win
the entire tournament. I don't know what it is. I
think I'm a moron. We will see you later. Today
we continue Blitzball Battle five.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
I really did. We're gonna I'm I'm gonna save the
NFL for now because it was a big fight weekend.
Maybe Prank called Canobio. He had a big weekend, didn't he?
Friday night? I want to start there with the boxing
Jake Paul Mike Tyson, Netflix streaming interesting. We saw the
(15:46):
perils of that, and I don't know if you want
to find yourself saying dumb sentences, talk about it, because
I was texting our our tech guy, tech Mike, who's
also a big boxing fan. He was watching the match
and it was funny. You know, we were talking about
streaming live sports and we're like, man, this is I
(16:08):
don't know. I don't know if this is ever gonna work.
Don't I don't know a streaming service like Netflix doing
live things. I just don't know. And then it's like, well,
we've had that with cable forever, like that is streaming
live sports. I realized there's two or three tech nerds
out there that probably don't like the way I phrased that,
But I don't know. Everyone that was watching did have
(16:29):
to deal with some spinning wheel of death and you
have to go out and come back in. That was
kind of tough. Missed the chunk of the women's boxing
match that was awesome, awesome, and that's where I want
to do some good in the bad with boxing. Here
(16:50):
it was Amanda saranovers Katie Taylor, a rematch. For those
of you that aren't BBD's parts of the Internet, I
believe Sidney Sweeney is playing Katie Taylor in an upcoming
movie about her. I'm not sure about Serrano. These two
faced out the first time. One of those match of
the Year situations, they say, let's running back, and they do.
(17:13):
These two just teed off on each other, one of
those things that's kind of wild to see. You wonder
if one of them is gonna give up.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Serrano had a big cut on her face that looked
like it came from an illegal head butt from Taylor.
So we got some good drama here a rematch. We
always love that at the end of the match. And
this is where boxing hurts me as a as a
true sports fan. I think they awarded the wrong winner.
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Serrano seemingly won on every card. Serrano had so many
more punches, so many punches landed impact punches, and they
gave it to Katie Taylor. So one boxing which I've
gotten into some interesting conversations, including one with Tech and
Mike about like what boxing needs to do to come back,
(18:03):
and you could say this is it. I think the
number that everyone was thrown around was sixty million people
tuned into this on Netflix. Hello. Who knows how they
got that number, but sure happy for them. If boxing
needs to get back in the fold a you need stars,
which we'll get to Jake Paul and Tyson in a second.
(18:26):
At the end of the day, sports you need the
result to match what happened. If you don't have that,
and that's where I'm excited to talk about UFC in
a little bit as well. If you don't have that,
you don't you don't have sports fans. Like sure, you
have entertainment, and you know, if you get the right
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people lined up, people will kind of tune into anything
and exhibit a fifty eight year old Mike Tyson. But
that was tough because it was like, Okay, I'm going
to tune into this boxing match Taylor Serrano, this is sick.
And then to see the scorecard popped up it could
have been labeled like a tie or I forget what
(19:07):
they say, no contest boxing guy. It definitely wasn't a
win for Taylor. So that's tough. That's tough for me
a sports fan and a sports consumer to see that.
And I don't know if that drama played better years ago,
because the argument I got in with tech Mike was like,
look how much real estate boxing has lost in the
(19:27):
sports world. Boxing used to be the one to one.
It was like boxing then baseball, and boxing's not like that.
Even in like combat sports anymore. So that was something
that rubbed me the wrong way. We get Paul Tyson,
it's a spectacle. Mike Tyson's in the ring. He's fifty eight.
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A popular conversation around our office, around your office, was
it rigged? Is it fixed? What do you think happened?
Did Tyson just get tired? The thing is all of
it's in. Jake Paul is twenty seven. He's in incredible shape.
Mike Tyson's fifty eight in incredible shape. But that means
two very different things. So they did the two minute
(20:11):
rounds to be shorter, they did the heavier gloves. These
were kind of things that they were trying to get
in your head to make it more Tyson esque. It
was cool to see him come out, kind of chills.
Mike Tyson is his own sort of iconic that pre
Internet bubble, when you had to be famous by being
the best or crazy famous. Mike Tyson had that and
(20:33):
he still has that. He's then a hangover, He's everywhere.
He's Mike Tyson. You know a lot of people that
can do a Mike Tyson impression had some surprising ones
in the office. Little bro Luke busted out of Tyson
the other day. Liked that Jake Paul I have a
little bit of respect for He's a polarizing figure YouTuber
(20:54):
kid TV show, kind of like the bad YouTube times
when it was like anything, Oh, he has made himself
into this boxer. He passes the eye test like that
was one of the things we were talking about. When
they're saying it was rigged this morning, Like guys in
amazing shape, world class shape. He's twenty seven. It's like
(21:15):
peak athleticism. Mike Tyson fifty eight. I want to harp
on that a little more because thirty five chiming in
can't imagine fifty eight and get in the boxing ring
and I just don't know. I don't know the lines
on rigged. I don't know the lines on handshake deals.
I don't know. Hey, take a couple of big swings
at me early and then if we just want to
(21:36):
dance our way through this, I have no clue. I
have no clue. It was a tough way to end
the spectacle that if you're walking away from it boxing
on this stage with so many people watching. Okay, I
get one good boxing match and the result didn't match
what I saw. And then I kind of watched an
(21:58):
old guy fight a young guy, which again the spectacle
side of boxing, which if we're gonna go and do that,
I'm in. I love a spectacle. I was pretty excited
to tune in. Okay, let's do more spectacles. And you
might see that because there was an interview with Gronk
and Shack saying they were starting an athlete fighting league,
which nobody knows if that's true or not. No one
(22:21):
knows if that was just Shaq coming up with an
idea on the spot, or if this is something that
you know, two of the more notable athletes that are
out in the public eye. Because I'll tell you what,
if you start getting guys to do that, you know,
I'm trying to think, what's a good dream matchup? Who
do we got? You're not getting Lebron boxing. Imagine if
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you did, you'd watch. Or let's get like an ironic match.
Let's get like Kevin Durant versus. I don't know who's
someone compact. Jerome bettis little old. It's a little as
an age gap there, but you know that's the at
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your high school, the fight you always dreamed about the
six seven basketball player who was skinny with reach against
the d lineman who was five to eleven but three
hundred pounds. Let's set up some spectacles.
Speaker 6 (23:17):
We like it.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Happy for boxing. I haven't really texted Dan. I'll give
him a prize call. I don't know if I've ever
given him a phone call. Let's see if he has
anything to chime in before I pivot over to UFC
and then the football. First time ever calling Dan Kenobio.
Here we go. Tell me his phone numbers in the
(23:39):
voicemail should be good. Daniel, what's up? Bro? What's up?
I'm recording waking Jake right now.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Man, it's a It's a boxing world. How how is
how is your week? Weekend?
Speaker 5 (24:00):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (24:00):
It was pretty fucking crazy. Man.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
I learned that Netflix is the scariest media company in
the world.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
How do you mean that? And I am recording this.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
They are scary in a good way because they just
have so much manpower and they put so much effort
and into this event. It felt like the Super Bowl
more than I felt like a boxing event. This was
their big foray into live sports, and I was just
really impressed with how much emphasis and attention to detail
(24:31):
that they put in, even for like my one minute hits.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
They were treating me.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
As if I was Howard Cosels with sixty million people
watching PI.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Yeah, I learned that I can read. That's a good thing.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Good step, good step can read.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
In front of people.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
I almost hyperventilated when they started counting you down ten nine,
ye know. And I looked around and I saw seventy
two thousand people at Jerry World, and I was like, oh,
don't do that again. Don't look around and just focus
in and uh yeah, it's freaking awesome.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Just picture everyone in their underwear. You didn't even have
to imagine with Tyson.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Huh, well, yeah he saw cheeks.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
He saw cheeks, We saw cheeks, Tyson. Hey, is it
all right if I'm mad about the Serrano Taylor final decision?
Speaker 5 (25:22):
No?
Speaker 3 (25:23):
I think I think you should be. You should That's
what boxing is. It's controversial decisions, a very subjective sport.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
But why Dan, why do I need? That was a
great fight, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (25:35):
But it wasn't like an egregious decision. I've seen much
boxing have seen much, much worse, like pure corruption. That
was a toast fight where either lady could have won.
Ninety five ninety four doesn't get any closer to that.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
On the official scorecards.
Speaker 5 (25:50):
My problem was they took a point away from Taylor
for the head buddy, so ninety five. That means he
could have been even wider, which doesn't make any sense
to me. Sorono landon more punches, Orlando cleaner shots.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
It's just like part of boxing.
Speaker 5 (26:04):
And a lot of people watched that fight, which is
great and they got to see those two ways because
their two best female fighters maybe of all time. But
then there's that like bad taste in some casual fans
mounts with like, oh man, that wasn't who I thought one.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Yeah, it just hurts me as like a sports guy,
like I don't I don't know, Like if they called
that a draw, I would have been like, you're kind
of right, Like it was tight. I thought Serrano one.
And when you looked at the final punching numbers, it
was like geez, but yeah, I don't know that that
sports wise, that doesn't sit too well with me.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Well, that's boxing to subject to sports.
Speaker 5 (26:38):
It's decided by three individuals ringside and they can see
three different things.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
It's the scariest thing. But the main.
Speaker 5 (26:46):
Thing, the main takeaway is that fifty million homes watched
A Man of Serano, Kay Taylor and women's boxing needed
that they needed, like a shot in the arm. But
a few years ago women's boxing was on top, but
kind of look down a little bit.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
So to number one thing I got was offering from
Netflix Mike Tyson's cheeks.
Speaker 5 (27:06):
I hate Jake Paul and A Man Torano and Kay
Taylor are awesome.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Yeah, give me I mean, Dan, this is kind of
awesome because I didn't tell you. Hey, have we ever
talked on the phone before?
Speaker 3 (27:17):
No, when I thought I.
Speaker 5 (27:18):
Was getting spamed, when you call me I getting am
I getting fired from a place I.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Don't work at here? You can't do that. Give me,
give me one minute, give me your Tyson Paul thoughts
in an elevator pitch and then maybe where they can
go see hear more of your thoughts.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
So Tyson, I felt like this was a big time
moment for the legacy of Mike Tyson. You may not
have liked to fight, you may not have liked the promotion,
you may not like Jake Paul, but I think one
thing is for sure. Sixty five million homes tuned in
and the world pretty much came to a standstill because
of Mike Tyson, and that is an unbelievable testament to
(27:57):
him because he's not the most This guy has done
some pinous things in his life, but he's just a
human being that everyone gravitates towards.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
I don't think it was bad for boxing. I think
it was good for boxing.
Speaker 5 (28:09):
I just think it was a night where you're gonna
get two big names and they're gonna try to make money.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
And that's what kind of boxing is.
Speaker 5 (28:16):
It's the only stage where you can do that, individuals
making money one and for one night.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
So I think it was a big Mike Tyson moment, uh,
and more than it was for Jake Paul.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Yeah, it was pretty nuts to see how much juice
Tyson still has in our society. Just seeing him come
out and hearing the crowd are up, that was that
was sick something I didn't know what we'd see again.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
You know what's funny.
Speaker 5 (28:41):
It was like as the fight was playing out and
we kind of realized, like, all right, Mike is not
going to close the distance. He's not gonna take any chances.
He's fifty eight, his legs are shot, his reflexes are.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Bad, and he's sixty eight.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
The fans didn't know whether it a blue or not.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
And I've just a million flights where they saw they
start booing immediately. The fans seventy two thousand people didn't
boo right away because of the respect they have for Tyson,
Like at the fight end and everyone just kind of
just filed out and they're like, yeah, I kind of
figured that's what it would look like, but I expect
it maybe a little more out of Tyson. But you know,
I was watching the fight with Andrew Ward is a
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former champion. He's like in his forties, and he said
towards the end of his career, like, your mind sets
do this.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
And your body just can't do it. And to do
that in a ring is wild enough.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Sounds the end there sounds like a blitz ball battle.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Ad.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Hey Daniel, good to hear from you, Poppy. Where where
can people find more of you? If they liked you
on that Netflix hit?
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Oh yeah, go check me out.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
On Inside Boxing Live on Instagram and and and YouTube
to a show twice a week with former johnbo employee
and former world champion Chris al Jerry. So check me
out there, and also you can find me on all
your on your O your dating apps.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Do you get did you get that? Do you get that? Netflix?
Ig Boost?
Speaker 5 (30:05):
Oh? Yeah that and just random ass messages from people
of all.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Walks of my life.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Pretty wild.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Man.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Hey, I know I already kind of told you about
congrats and uh, next time there's a dude. I was
pretty pissed when I found out UFC was at the
Garden because I just straight up missed it. But that's like,
that's like near the top of sports events I want
to go to.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (30:30):
I was thinking about going, but I knew that I
was gonna be absolutely nothing.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
The next day after the event.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Yeah, but yeah, that was an.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Awesome event too.
Speaker 5 (30:38):
I mean every November they do initiate at the Garden,
So we'll go next year.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
All right, hook it up with tickets.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
You got it?
Speaker 1 (30:47):
All right, Dan, I'll talk to you, Poppy.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
BBD, I love you, broo.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Wow my dam see it wrong number, but thank you
for calling. So the boxing was good and we already
segued into UFC. Man, I'm I'm so in. I started
even getting like more and more emotional about it because
I'll give you the honest run through, and this is
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like as big of a UFC I have. We have
no attachment or connection to the UFC. Let me preface
that by saying this Saturday night, I saw it was
John Bones Jones. I don't even know. I just know
John Bones Jones is a bad man. I think Chandler
Jones was his brother who played in the NFL for
a while and was like an all pro d ND.
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I just remember John Bones Jones being a stud. He
was killing people. He had some went through it off
the field, and then he's back and he's one of
the people they debate is the goat. It was at MSG.
I did a one scratch and one look at tickets
just to be like should I go? And then I
was like, I'm not going buy my I'm in comfy clothes.
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Was at six pm. It's dark out anyways. It sounds
like I'm going next here with Dan and he's got tickets,
so that's sweet. So I was like, but you know what,
I'm I'm gonna watch I get sucked in. They start
him off on ESPN and then at ten pm you
have to go over to the pay per view. Tried
the illegal stream for a little bit. I'll be honest,
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you know, eighty bucks by myself, me and the dog
watching UFC. It's not my best investment. That's something they
tell me an investment school. Hey, if you could save
that and watch the illegal screen, good investment. Uh watch
for a little bit. Gave out and I said, you
know what, I'm enjoying this enough. I'm a man. I
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bought it, caved in, watched it. The production is so good.
And if you're a John Boy media person, that's like,
you know, yeah, John Boy Media, you guys know something
about production, blitz ball Battle, all that stuff. I mean,
I do and I don't. It's one of Jim's strengths.
Obviously we've put a lot of time into it. But UFC,
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the amount of info they give you about the fighters
is perfect. The booth is perfect. It's Rogan with intense
knowledge about UFC, going back to the early days. Also
with like full reign to be sense of humor and
like honest, like if a boxer's in crazy good shape,
we're gonna be like, look, how good is shape this
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dude isn't if there's a fighter in horrible shape, they'll
be like, this guy's out of shape right now. He
doesn't look good. He's moving bad, like it's pretty cool.
You get super honest commentary, Annik great by play by
play and does enough of his quirks to keep it
moving in Cormier with great insights, still having fought a
lot of these guys in recent years, the heavyweights, at least,
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it's an amazing product. Every fight you're vested in the
contrast and fighting styles. This guy's gonna try to choke
out this guy. This guy doesn't want to go to
the ground with this guy. This guy's trying for the
first round knockout. He's never been in a fight around
fight before, so he's more tired than he's ever been.
I love it, I love all of it. I was
sending passionate message about how good it is. I mean,
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some of these guys are obviously sick puppies and they
know that entertainment wise, even if you're going to lose
the fight, you need to put an entertainment value. One guy, Chandler,
American little dude. He was losing the fight. He keept
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getting taken to the ground by Brazilian guy Oliviera, saying
that right probably not. I'm sorry to the people, to
all my Portuguese listeners, but by the end he was
still fighting like one of these guys Michael Chandler Olivieri. Yeah,
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he was going to have to knock him out to win,
and he was given some big blows. He couldn't get
the big one that By the end, he was kind
of wrapped up again. He in a showmanship way. He
stood up twice with Oliver wrapped around him and just
body slammed him, knowing it wouldn't do enough damage to
win him the match, but it won over the crowd.
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John Bones Jones the champ. He beats Mia chich guy
with a lot of titles, like most decorated heavyweight. They
kept saying he's older, he's forty one. He kind of
came out of retirement for this. He retires right after
the match. John Bones Jones was too much for him.
And that was fun just watching someone considered the goat
still be the goat. I think he's at age thirty
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seven or something like that. This is why this sport wins.
So I talked about boxing and I want the right fighter.
I want the right person to win all that middleweight fight.
Here comes Bo Nickel, great name college wrestler. He was
(36:00):
like he was voted the best college wrestler in twenty nineteen.
So you're like, okay, that's where again. UFC is kind
of cool. This guy we've been told as a world
class wrestler. He's undefeated, he's seven and oh, he's got
kind of this no nonsense Midwest attitude for him. I
think he's actually from New Mexico or something like that.
And dude, his interviews are just kind of what you
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want to fight her. He was like, yeah, I don't.
Wrestling was over and I just want to keep fighting people.
So I started doing this and you're like, okay. He said.
Fighting is his favorite thing. He said, him and his
buddies in middle school, they used to get yelled at
so much by their parents because they just fight each other.
They just hang out and fight. And now this guy's
in the UFC. Anyways, he's American, playing at the garden, undefeated.
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The crowd's all about him. They love him. Seven and oh,
this guy's the next star. He's an ex McGregor, all
of it. He comes out cheers. He's fighting this Scottish guy.
Paul Craig can't understand him. Handsome, but he's on his
way down. Seventeen to nine and one that means this
guy's lost nine fights in an octagon. That's a bad time.
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But he's on his way down as bon Nickel's on
his way up. And that's kind of how it works.
In UFC, bon Nichol was winning, but in an unimpressive fashion,
like he wasn't trying to go for takedowns, he wasn't
trying to do impact blows. He was just like casually
winning the fight. The crowd just started booing them, instant turn,
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instant turn, if you're not going to entertain us and
fight like hell, we don't want it, and it was crazy.
They hand him his belt to go seven and oh
undefeated in UFC, Madison Square Garden's booing him and he
does his interview and credit to him because he that's
gotta be a weird feeling. The months of preparation slash
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your whole life building up to this fight in him
and you were the fan favorite and now you're getting
booed twenty minutes later after you've won. It's a weird
mix of emotions. He handled it pretty good. He was like,
hey man, I've been building my way up. I only
have six fights against people who are not of Paul
Craig's ability like, I'm kind of sorry you didn't get
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the show you wanted, but I kind of just had
a dominant victory over a very good fighter. I feel good,
and it's like, yeah, and you should man. Good for you.
But it's just emotions that other sports cannot tap into.
With that instant criss cross, a potential moment where one
punch or one kick dictates the fight. There was a
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guy fighting on one leg, like he just it basically
wasn't able to stand on his back leg, so he
was still hopping around and fighting, and it's like that
changes things, that changes your whole dynamic. I can't believe
how sucked in I get to it every time. I
paid eighty dollars of my own money and I didn't
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regret it at all. So Dan's got me front row
seats at the next one. I'm excited for it. If
you're someone that's been shy to UFC, I recommend it,
whether it's with a group of friends or out at
a bar or something. It's just a weird. It's a
weird real world that they've created, and some of the
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blood and stuff is tough. I'll be honest. There's a
the two females were fighting a Rougio and Silva, and
there's a lot of blood going on. I didn't love
it for a minute. I'll be real with you, but
next big UFC fight, and I think there's one. I
think it was like December seventh or December tenth, I'll
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be watching. So if you're about it, let me know.
Let's finish up with some NFL football sasake fighting in football.
That's what waken Jake does a fun NFL weekend. I
was able to digest a lot of it. Man, I
(40:10):
was gonna say, let's go back to Thursday's game. I
barely remember. This was the Saquon two TD game. I
should have been three, but tush push at the one.
They end up beating the Commanders twenty six to eighteen.
Gives them a stronghold in the NFC East. The panicky
two and two Eagles fire Siriani. They're now eight and two,
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and I think Nick Siriani has like the seventh best
NFL coaching record of all time by win percentage. It's
it's funny where his perception is at in and outside
of Philly. They're back to kind of being the feared
Eagles and when you're looking for an NFC team to
come out, they've got quite the argument right now in
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Saquon that is playing out of his dome. I'm starting
to think he was not the problem in New York,
which brings us to Sunday. The Euro Games are out. People.
The big game that I've been teasing for a couple weeks,
Bill's Chiefs will get there. It's the four pm at
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one pm Bears Packers. My god again. I know I'm
doing a lot of cross promo for shows that don't
need cross promo, but just go listen to the tone
in Big Cat's voice about at Chicago Bears because they
are so broken by the Green Bay Packers. I think
Matt Lafleur is eleven and zero against the Bears. I
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think if you go back, it's something crazy, it's like
forty eight and eleven or something like how badly the
Packers that seemingly always have a quarterback against the Bears
that seemingly always don't, how much they have dominated this game.
It ends on a block field goal where the Bears
could have went for more yards and they did not,
and the Packers. It's always funny when you get the
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story afterwards. They said the Packers special teams was saying
all week how they're going to block a kick? Probably
say that every week, right, I mean, i'd have to
assume that's probably part of the goal. But when you
do it on the game ending play, that feels good.
The Packers seven and three. Speaking of NFC teams as
we start to boil up for their playoffs, Christian Watson,
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by the way, four catches one fifty. It's about fifty
yards catch analytics. Lions Jaguars, Holy smokes fifty two to six.
The spread in this game was minus fourteen, and the
Lions showed how dominant they are. GoF God gets four touchdowns,
Montgomery runs for two, Son God catches two. The most
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dominant win of the year the Lions, and how good
they look so far this year NFC early on the Vikes,
Titans really no thank you. Although the Vikings are now
eight and two, crazy, you turn your head and you're
just kind of like what they had lost a lot
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of their momentum. People were kind of fading Donald a
little bit. No more. The eight and two Vikings. Who
do they have coming up? They have the Bears, Okay, Bears, Cardinals, Falcons,
watch out for them, Broncos, Bears again, Seahawks, Packers, Lions.
I mean these eight and two Vikes, there's no reason
they shouldn't go at least five hundred the rest of
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the way. And you're looking at an eleven win ball
club in Minnesota this year. Crazy crazy story from them, Dolphins, Raiders,
No thank you. I will say this. Dolphins, They've got
a little bit of the juice and they were my
big bet I hit this weekend, so I was happy
about that, and it didn't look like it was gonna hit.
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A lot of back and forth late in this game.
If you know you knew Rams Patriots not really. Rams
are back to five hundred, Matty Stafford four touchdowns. Hey, Patriots,
I know this this year isn't gonna look so good.
But Drake May looks solid. There was a couple funny
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texts in the group chat. One of my buddies was
ribbing my New England Patriot friends about them not having
Lad McConkie and how much of a movie it would
be Lad McConkie, and that Patriots White Saints Brown's No
Saints rolled them four and seven, two game win streak.
The Taysom Hill game seven carries for one thirty eight
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three touchdowns. That guy man the Colts and the Jets.
The Colts win twenty eight to twenty seven. The Jets
dropped to three and eight. I don't know, man, I
don't know. If it's franchises. I don't know if it
was fireing sala, I don't it's Rogers curses. The Jets
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are up there. The Jets are up there. When it
comes to being cursed, Anthony Richardson puts it away with
a late touchdown run. Colts still alive in this thing.
Ar five had like a good game. You wonder if
that benching could have been good for him, either health
wise or for his headspace. But they are back. And
how about those Denver Broncos being back Falcons. I was
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trying to drink their kool aid. I think there were
six and three Kirk slinging it. They're now six and five.
They only score six point against that vaunted Broncos defense.
Boe Nicks for passing touchdowns, I mean Williams nine carries
fifty nine yards in one touchdown. The horse sees again,
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this was a game. I didn't I didn't come in
expecting anything from them. They showed up. And now they've
got Raiders, Browns, Colts. Let's go Bronco Nation. Let's ride
anything else in the one into the four pm raven Stillers.
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The Steelers take down my Ravens. I think I'm gonna
take my Super Bowl prediction hat off the Ravens, partially
because they've lost a couple close games like this. The
Steelers win eighteen to sixteen. No tuddies, man, this was
just AFC North football, grindy, gritty, hard hitting. The Justin
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Field slide short at the end was kind of tough
to watch, but it doesn't end up hurting them. King
Henry with his first fumble on the opening drive and
like five hundred something carries, he came to the bench
like a guy who fumbled for the first time in
five hundred something carries. Mike Tomlin, you can't say it.
He has to be the leader for a Coach of
the Year. At this point the game, two Steelers behind
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Fields and Wilson, and yeah, they were wondering, how seriously
do they have to take them? Because they have that
world class defense they're now eating too. I don't know,
I don't have them as an actual super Bowl threat yet.
But maybe that's being rude because they just beat my Ravens. Well,
I'm taking out for now because there's a couple things
I don't like besides the losing. I think Lamar is
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one in four against the Steelers against Tomlin. I might
have those stats wrong. Maybe that's in Pittsburgh, but there
was that. There's the Lamar you know, Lamar's playoff stuff,
which I've been willing to look over because all it
takes is one good one to put all that in
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your rear view. Man, the Justin Tucker thing is very real.
That was part of their team identity, the Ravens. It
kind of felt like going into half or whenever they
had the ball, if they were getting near midfield, it
was Justin Tucker time, and he felt automatic. He doesn't not.
He is really struggling. It's not just him, but it's
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a big part of it where I think I'm taking
my super Bowl hat off the Ravens for now. Speaking
of another team people want to the forty nine Ers
lose to the Seahawks and then the final seconds again
Gino runs one in. I don't know. Everyone was buying
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up Niner stock McCaffrey's back. Here we go, No go
Seahawks five and five, Niners five and five, Rams five
and five. The Cardinals continue to lead that division. They
were on their bye week this week seems like one
of those years for the Niners. It's just off and again,
I've talked about the injuries a lot. It just hasn't clicked. Hey,
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if the playoff lights come on and they get a
good first round matchup, everyone will be back. But they've
been off this year. The game of the weekend Bills
Chiefs the game of the year arguably the Chiefs in
their win streak, which I tried to put on your radar,
the Bills looking for redemption. I tried to tee this
up the best I could between this is one of
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Buffalo's best chances to get them, and they end up
getting them thirty to twenty one. Josh Allen looks good,
ends the game with incredible rushing touchdown. He's just so
big and powerful. It's incredible to watch. The Chiefs. They
felt they felt a step off this year, but they
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just kept winning and Mahomes is still there. This doesn't
change much. This is you know, in Buffalo, close game,
but they do end up losing it big one for
the Bills. It was funny to see. I think I
think Allen is four to one against Mahomes in the
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regular season, Mahomes three to zero in the postseason. That's
how you get remembered, folks. Huge for Buffalo. Do I
have them as my Super Bowl favorites right now? I
don't know if I'm willing to don that. I think
I'd still take the Chiefs over them, which is horribly rude.
But that Mahomes guy and that Reid guy are still there,
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and if this game is in Kansas City, I don't
think Buffalo gets it. So they are currently the nine
and one Chiefs and the nine and two Bills. Let's
see how the Chiefs look the rest of the way.
They get a nice little medicine game after this, the
Carolina Panthers and then the Raiders, so expect them to
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get back on the winning train and at night Chargers Bengals.
And I was excited to talk about this one today
because falling deeper and deeper in love with Joe Burr
and he has another massive game, leads an incredible comeback.
They were down was it twenty four to six? Might
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have even been twenty one to three at one point,
whatever it was, Burrow leads them back twenty sevens on
the scoreboard and they end up blowing it. Each team
had a couple chances late. I think there were some
like three kicks in the final two minutes. It might
have even been four. McPherson remember when he was a
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star player for their team, Money McPherson. He missed two
kicks him and Justin Tucker. Those two were viewed as
like one A one B bucker in the mix couple
other guys. McPherson has missed a few field goals that
have changed the outlook of this Bengals season that now
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they're sitting at four and seven. And by the way,
I'm not selling any of my Burrow ground or position.
He was awesome. Some of the throws he made into
some of the windows, and some of the plays he
makes with his legs and in the pocket. It's kind
of unmatched to me in his playing style. Herbert was
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solid and fine and made the made the two passes
at the end that he had to make. Lad mcconkeye
is good six catches one twenty three. The two big
passes I mentioned were both to him and the Chargers
Hardball seven and three, and yeah, interested to see how
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this year wraps up with the Bengals and their head
coach Zach Taylor, because I don't know this, this feels
off and Cincinnati as a city be careful because if
this guy ever wants out of town or leaves town,
be very bad for Cincinnati. Just a reminder, LSU lost
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again this weekend. Go look at LSU outside of Joe Burrow.
It's a slightly different narrative. It's a slightly different way
to view the program as a whole, since from Saban
to Burrow, six thirty to thirty and Ellen, Louisiana, And hey, tonight,
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how about them Cowboys? We'll watch because we like sports.
Cowboys Texans Houston minus seven in Jerry's world. So they
cleared that place out pretty quick. How do you like that? So, hey, guys,
funky episode today, a lot of physical fighting sports. Not
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my norm, but I enjoyed it this weekend and it
was another testament to how sports can, just when you
least expect it, poke their head out there and give
you something. So I hope you guys enjoy it. I
think might get jolly the Bear Jolly Olive for Wednesday's episode,
so we'll look into that. Thank you, guys.
Speaker 2 (54:01):
Wig and Jig is production of damp Patrick Productions, Shomboy
Media and Workhouse Media.
Hello, and ognn awaken, Jake myself, Jake's story, Elie Bbd producing.
As we talk about the wide world of sports, and
we actually do get a little wide. We'll talk a
little bit of the boxing in UFC because you know,
I unfortunately got crazy locked into both talk some football
at the end. To start it out with some ball.
(00:24):
I want to talk about Roki Sasaki a little bit,
you know, just talk to Trev a little bit about it.
And now I'm I'm wondering if I'm flip flopping decisions
in my head and how much power he kind of
has this free agency as we enter kind of the
we're in a bubble and I don't know when that
(00:44):
bubble is gonna crack. We'll probably get a couple I
would say we get one or two weird free agent
signings this week, probably something unappealing, no offense to any
of our friends. The first name that popped in my head,
like Rowdy Tillez is a free I don't know, welcome
to Cleveland. No, I don't know. Like we've Michael Waka
(01:08):
got his contract done. We've seen the Halos get their
bidding done. That Yeah, I don't know if a team
wants to bring in yes Monti Grandal for next year
to do some pitch framing. He'll be available, but we're
really in this free agency hole. That's not gonna go
probably till around Thanksgiving. Uh, we'll see. Usually the big
(01:30):
fish control of the market. Soto is such a big
fish that I don't think he controls the market well,
gets tricky it for.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
What it's worth, like if you're if you think the
market will wait for him.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
He is.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
On paper doing things pretty ahead of schedule.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Right, He's doing meetings. He's about it.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Today is the Yankees meeting, which is supposed to be
like the last of the first round of meetings over
the weekend. I was looking at like, well, when did
Garrett Cole do his meetings? I think his first one
was in December and he signed at the Winter meetings,
So okay, trending early. But O'tani started around this time
(02:12):
too when he waited. Yeah, And I mean, you know,
you never know.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Everyone's everyone has the number in their head that they
think they're getting that if if they finally get to
that spot, maybe it's go time. Or you don't get
to that spot and maybe you got to do the
dance for a while, So I don't know. I mean
Sodo Sodo. I don't think that's gonna dictate too many teams.
The Yankees would obviously have to audible significantly, and I
(02:37):
guess see other teams. Maybe this is nonoxious Yankee stuff.
But you know, if you're the Mets, you have to
have a non Sodo plan. If you're anyone else who
we think is gonna be in on this. The Red
Sox supposedly tay Oscar, he'd be good there al East
play left field. The Monster's pretty close. Don't hate that.
If they take him from la Am, I rooting for
(02:58):
that because then I see t ask her a lot more. Anyways,
I don't know when this free agency is gonna get
get really going. It's kind of ironic if I had
to place a bet at the draftings sports book. Last year,
I went on vacation in December and free agency really
(03:19):
took off a couple of big trades. Jimmy is going
on a big trip this year. That's also end of
Thanksgiving into the first week of December.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
So just.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Playing the jahn Boy media tea leaves, I'm gonna say
right in there, we'll get that Sodo sighing. But we
did some on Talking Baseball today. We did some MLB
buy and sell. One of the questions that got me
going was my guy, Roki Sasaki, who if you have
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no idea, if you don't, if you weren't in on
the WBC, if you weren't in on MLB the show,
or Rokie Sasaki the kids have been video gaming with
for a little bit. He is the real deal. And hey,
if you're like, didn't we haven't we done all this
with Yama Moto? Should we just even stop like having
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to label Japanese players this way?
Speaker 5 (04:18):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (04:18):
He looks the part, and he is the part. Fastball
sits at ninety eight. I think he's hit one oh
three on the gun before. Uh he's six three, good
frame to him, intense that it seems like this is
the guy, Like I feel like we heard about Sasaki
before Yamamoto almost and I think part of that is
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he just turned twenty three. Uh so he's getting posted.
We've talked about him a little bit. If you don't
know how the systems work, nobody truly does. But there
are people he is getting posted and your team is
going to be able to sign him to essentially the
rookie major league contract. He will be under team control
for six years. You'll have him cost controlled and very cheap,
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at least for the first three four years that he
will be. He is one of the most coveted free
agents because of that, and it's going to be interesting
to see where he lands. And we started laughing on
Talking Baseball today because the question was is he gonna
hold up the pitcher market and we both said, no,
(05:25):
I mean Roki Sasaki. He's going to be essentially for
free if you get him good. And I guess where
I landed. It was like, hey, you if he gives
you that's your sixth or seventh starting pitching pitcher, maybe
you trade one of those guys and you improve your
team elsewhere. Maybe you don't. You sign a guy like
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this that gives you the flexibility to do whatever you want.
It is interesting, Like I know, us as Yankee fans,
we haven't even been able to daydream of it. Everyone
assumes he's going to the dog in there, well not everyone.
A lot of people assume he's going to the Dodgers
because of their Japanese connection with Otaniymamoto. Padres are heavily rumored,
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and I do think it is funny if you go
on the internet and there's a good article by Will
Salmon not spelled like the fish double m. Will Salmon
from the Athletic talking about Sasaki coming over. A couple
things I need to highlight. One they interview his manager,
manager Masado Yoshi, formerun MLB pitcher, I believe, and he says,
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to be honest, he still has a lot to learn, which,
by the way, a good reminder of how awesome the
Japanese culture is. Any other country comes in and says
that this guy's like the next Hall of Famer, He's
the next Justin Berland or whoever you want it to be.
This guy's kid's a stud in Japan, and they're like,
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he's got a lot to learn. Nice, always be learning.
The Yankees and the Mets in play, sure, Dodgers padres uh.
I'm seeing the Phillies linked. They were big on Yamamoto.
And then it throws out the Red Sox. I forget
(07:19):
if I said the Cubs or not, but a lot
of the big market teams and that's you know, some
of the comments on this Athletic article are you know
what you'd expect in a comment section. Unfortunately, Oh wow,
it's the big clubs that can spend, which is ironic
because they can't spend for him, but they can spend
for other players. So I guess I'm walking back my
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thought process a little bit that he might not hold
up the market just because if there's a chance you
can get this guy. And I don't know. Today I
was talking about the Cubs, and I've talked about it
last episode. I don't know where Corbyn Burns is going.
I still don't. We daydream about Cordon Burns going to
the Cubs today, which I really like. It feels like
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the impact move the Cubs can make to be like, hey,
we have a great pitching staff, we have a great
pitching staff, we like our lineup. Let's do this. No
rumors know anything there. I don't know if the Cubs
are gonna be big spenders or not spend at all
this offseason because they kind of like their squad. But
for example, say if he was in on the Cubs, Okay,
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they don't need to spend on Cordon Burns now. They
would have a pretty sick top three from what we
know in Minaga steal and then adding Sasaki and then
if they were willing to spend the kind of money
for a big free agent, which again the Cubs have
been in kind of this weird middle area. Everyone we
thought they'd sign, they didn't. They did sign Dansby. That
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was a very real contract. That happ extension looks great, right, Yeah,
come on, hap should have been a Yankee. Okay, stop
with that that. I guess I have reconsidered what Sasaki's
free agency could potentially do the teams that actually think
they're gonna get him, because by the time he has
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to BBD, I need you to help me out with
the posting, because he hasn't been posted yet.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
No, there's fifteenth, supposedly because I think December fifteenth is
the end of this year's signing period, and there's has
to be like a one month layover. That part's less important.
The short version is it would benefit him and his
former team to just wait until next year's signing period begins,
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which I believe would be January fifteenth, where bonus pool's
reset and guys don't have to These teams wouldn't have
to back out of the deals with these other kids.
And so what's that? What's the thought process?
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Though that if they if they reset that, because they're
still to talking about posting him on December fifteenth, So
would they just not sign paperwork till January fifteenth? Uh, yes,
it would be.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
It'd be like a because I think it's a forty
five day period. So yeah, so they could wait till then.
Speaker 6 (10:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
The exact exact rules around it are fuzzy, but in
general it's pretty likely he doesn't officially sign until it
counts as next year, when books are clean.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
All of that. So with that being said, we're now
talking about January, which that's normally kind of the dead
part of the baseball season. That's when we're really searching
for topics. So teams can either be looking at it
as a Roki Sasaki bonus piece, which okay, if that's
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the Dodgers. The embarrassment of riches there is insane. If
your a team like the Padres, who he idolizes you
Darvish or he did, I don't know where he's still lands.
He's twenty three, So people are wondering that West Coast.
We've seen that with a lot of Japanese players. I mean,
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it's a kind of exciting club to be a part
of right that whatever the Padres are doing this offseaon,
we don't know they've got you know, Peter Sidler rip
that now a new part of his family is running
the team. I don't know if they're going to be
spending as aggressively as he was. Doesn't seem like it
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that that's a team that would be significantly altered if
Sasaki says he's coming there. You can invest the twenty
five million you were going to bring in to bring
a starting pitcher now, to bring in a hitter, to
bring in two hitters, to trade for some dead money
from a team. You know, Peler's gonna get in the
mix that I guess. The Rokie Sasaki story for me
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was kind of like like we we aren't in control,
and we aren't. He's gonna get to pick where he goes.
That's that's where I've been laughing and reading the article.
I compared it to like high school recruiting, because it
could just be one of anything he likes. It could
be Could it be Chicago? Em Nagas's buddy heard the
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city's cool. He likes cold weather, no clue New York
has he always dreamt of wearing pinstripes. Has he always
dreamt of befriending the richest owner, Steve Cohen, or being
part of the change with the Mets. They said the
Mets recruiting pitch for Yamamoto was awesome. It just didn't happen.
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So hey, there's something there. And they have code I
sang on the team. So who knows which one of
these things for a twenty three year old is going
to dictate how they spend their next six years. If
you want rings, seems like the Dodgers. Also close to home,
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seems like the Dodgers, familiar teammates, seems like the Dodgers.
In a lot of people's heads, it seems like the
Dodgers until it's not. And if it's not, I'm excited
to see where as long as not see the Red
Sox listed here. No thanks, it's none of none of
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their business, none of my business. You know. This article
is the Phillies. I don't know. I'm I'm not. I'm
not gonna believe in anything. I'm not gonna believe in
anything till it happens. Why, I don't know. We'll see.
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I'm interested to see how his free agency affects the
rest of free agency. I was pretty flipping about it.
Today's talking baseball, and I think there is a chance,
whether it's a handshake agreement or whatever it is, it
could significantly change because there's depth in the starting pitching
free agents and this guy could be a potential one.
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There's some rumors as Vello was down, was he nursing
an injury. I don't know. This guy's a guy guy.
He can reshape the whole young core of a team.
It's the Dodgers. Everyone watch out. And he was just
more in my mind than I thought this morning. If
I'm being real honest, I kind of want to talk
about more sports because I got lost in this sports weekend.
Speaker 6 (14:28):
Blitzball Battle five, a pair of winless teams going at it,
trying to avoid playing in that loser's bracket, if you will.
Team Baggage has never beaten del Kribe. How are they
gonna get it done later today?
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Well, I think they gained a lot of confidence in
that last matchup to spot the loss. One thing you
can take with absolute sudiny is somebody who's leaving with
a win from this one.
Speaker 6 (14:49):
So Baggage hit the ball exceptionally well. They came up
on the short end of the stick. In their first
game of the season, Del Kreibe did not get a
single hit against.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
Forgotten, a rotten different matchup here.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Today we go back to every single tournament played in
the warehouse. I think I've taken Team Baggage at every
game they've played. They do not want that skunk patch.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
I think I've got one rot so Fa. So I'm
gonna go ahead and pick Del Chariba. Why not, just
to help you out Kel. So that's why everybody's happy.
Speaker 6 (15:14):
I got Team Baggage. Stupidly, I picked them to win
the entire tournament. I don't know what it is. I
think I'm a moron. We will see you later. Today
we continue Blitzball Battle five.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
I really did. We're gonna I'm I'm gonna save the
NFL for now because it was a big fight weekend.
Maybe Prank called Canobio. He had a big weekend, didn't he?
Friday night? I want to start there with the boxing
Jake Paul Mike Tyson, Netflix streaming interesting. We saw the
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perils of that, and I don't know if you want
to find yourself saying dumb sentences, talk about it, because
I was texting our our tech guy, tech Mike, who's
also a big boxing fan. He was watching the match
and it was funny. You know, we were talking about
streaming live sports and we're like, man, this is I
(16:08):
don't know. I don't know if this is ever gonna work.
Don't I don't know a streaming service like Netflix doing
live things. I just don't know. And then it's like, well,
we've had that with cable forever, like that is streaming
live sports. I realized there's two or three tech nerds
out there that probably don't like the way I phrased that,
But I don't know. Everyone that was watching did have
(16:29):
to deal with some spinning wheel of death and you
have to go out and come back in. That was
kind of tough. Missed the chunk of the women's boxing
match that was awesome, awesome, and that's where I want
to do some good in the bad with boxing. Here
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it was Amanda saranovers Katie Taylor, a rematch. For those
of you that aren't BBD's parts of the Internet, I
believe Sidney Sweeney is playing Katie Taylor in an upcoming
movie about her. I'm not sure about Serrano. These two
faced out the first time. One of those match of
the Year situations, they say, let's running back, and they do.
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These two just teed off on each other, one of
those things that's kind of wild to see. You wonder
if one of them is gonna give up.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Serrano had a big cut on her face that looked
like it came from an illegal head butt from Taylor.
So we got some good drama here a rematch. We
always love that at the end of the match. And
this is where boxing hurts me as a as a
true sports fan. I think they awarded the wrong winner.
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Serrano seemingly won on every card. Serrano had so many
more punches, so many punches landed impact punches, and they
gave it to Katie Taylor. So one boxing which I've
gotten into some interesting conversations, including one with Tech and
Mike about like what boxing needs to do to come back,
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and you could say this is it. I think the
number that everyone was thrown around was sixty million people
tuned into this on Netflix. Hello. Who knows how they
got that number, but sure happy for them. If boxing
needs to get back in the fold a you need stars,
which we'll get to Jake Paul and Tyson in a second.
(18:26):
At the end of the day, sports you need the
result to match what happened. If you don't have that,
and that's where I'm excited to talk about UFC in
a little bit as well. If you don't have that,
you don't you don't have sports fans. Like sure, you
have entertainment, and you know, if you get the right
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people lined up, people will kind of tune into anything
and exhibit a fifty eight year old Mike Tyson. But
that was tough because it was like, Okay, I'm going
to tune into this boxing match Taylor Serrano, this is sick.
And then to see the scorecard popped up it could
have been labeled like a tie or I forget what
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they say, no contest boxing guy. It definitely wasn't a
win for Taylor. So that's tough. That's tough for me
a sports fan and a sports consumer to see that.
And I don't know if that drama played better years ago,
because the argument I got in with tech Mike was like,
look how much real estate boxing has lost in the
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sports world. Boxing used to be the one to one.
It was like boxing then baseball, and boxing's not like that.
Even in like combat sports anymore. So that was something
that rubbed me the wrong way. We get Paul Tyson,
it's a spectacle. Mike Tyson's in the ring. He's fifty eight.
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A popular conversation around our office, around your office, was
it rigged? Is it fixed? What do you think happened?
Did Tyson just get tired? The thing is all of
it's in. Jake Paul is twenty seven. He's in incredible shape.
Mike Tyson's fifty eight in incredible shape. But that means
two very different things. So they did the two minute
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rounds to be shorter, they did the heavier gloves. These
were kind of things that they were trying to get
in your head to make it more Tyson esque. It
was cool to see him come out, kind of chills.
Mike Tyson is his own sort of iconic that pre
Internet bubble, when you had to be famous by being
the best or crazy famous. Mike Tyson had that and
(20:33):
he still has that. He's then a hangover, He's everywhere.
He's Mike Tyson. You know a lot of people that
can do a Mike Tyson impression had some surprising ones
in the office. Little bro Luke busted out of Tyson
the other day. Liked that Jake Paul I have a
little bit of respect for He's a polarizing figure YouTuber
(20:54):
kid TV show, kind of like the bad YouTube times
when it was like anything, Oh, he has made himself
into this boxer. He passes the eye test like that
was one of the things we were talking about. When
they're saying it was rigged this morning, Like guys in
amazing shape, world class shape. He's twenty seven. It's like
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peak athleticism. Mike Tyson fifty eight. I want to harp
on that a little more because thirty five chiming in
can't imagine fifty eight and get in the boxing ring
and I just don't know. I don't know the lines
on rigged. I don't know the lines on handshake deals.
I don't know. Hey, take a couple of big swings
at me early and then if we just want to
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dance our way through this, I have no clue. I
have no clue. It was a tough way to end
the spectacle that if you're walking away from it boxing
on this stage with so many people watching. Okay, I
get one good boxing match and the result didn't match
what I saw. And then I kind of watched an
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old guy fight a young guy, which again the spectacle
side of boxing, which if we're gonna go and do that,
I'm in. I love a spectacle. I was pretty excited
to tune in. Okay, let's do more spectacles. And you
might see that because there was an interview with Gronk
and Shack saying they were starting an athlete fighting league,
which nobody knows if that's true or not. No one
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knows if that was just Shaq coming up with an
idea on the spot, or if this is something that
you know, two of the more notable athletes that are
out in the public eye. Because I'll tell you what,
if you start getting guys to do that, you know,
I'm trying to think, what's a good dream matchup? Who
do we got? You're not getting Lebron boxing. Imagine if
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you did, you'd watch. Or let's get like an ironic match.
Let's get like Kevin Durant versus. I don't know who's
someone compact. Jerome bettis little old. It's a little as
an age gap there, but you know that's the at
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your high school, the fight you always dreamed about the
six seven basketball player who was skinny with reach against
the d lineman who was five to eleven but three
hundred pounds. Let's set up some spectacles.
Speaker 6 (23:17):
We like it.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Happy for boxing. I haven't really texted Dan. I'll give
him a prize call. I don't know if I've ever
given him a phone call. Let's see if he has
anything to chime in before I pivot over to UFC
and then the football. First time ever calling Dan Kenobio.
Here we go. Tell me his phone numbers in the
(23:39):
voicemail should be good. Daniel, what's up? Bro? What's up?
I'm recording waking Jake right now.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Man, it's a It's a boxing world. How how is
how is your week? Weekend?
Speaker 5 (24:00):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (24:00):
It was pretty fucking crazy. Man.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
I learned that Netflix is the scariest media company in
the world.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
How do you mean that? And I am recording this.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
They are scary in a good way because they just
have so much manpower and they put so much effort
and into this event. It felt like the Super Bowl
more than I felt like a boxing event. This was
their big foray into live sports, and I was just
really impressed with how much emphasis and attention to detail
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that they put in, even for like my one minute hits.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
They were treating me.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
As if I was Howard Cosels with sixty million people
watching PI.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Yeah, I learned that I can read. That's a good thing.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Good step, good step can read.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
In front of people.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
I almost hyperventilated when they started counting you down ten nine,
ye know. And I looked around and I saw seventy
two thousand people at Jerry World, and I was like, oh,
don't do that again. Don't look around and just focus
in and uh yeah, it's freaking awesome.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Just picture everyone in their underwear. You didn't even have
to imagine with Tyson.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Huh, well, yeah he saw cheeks.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
He saw cheeks, We saw cheeks, Tyson. Hey, is it
all right if I'm mad about the Serrano Taylor final decision?
Speaker 5 (25:22):
No?
Speaker 3 (25:23):
I think I think you should be. You should That's
what boxing is. It's controversial decisions, a very subjective sport.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
But why Dan, why do I need? That was a
great fight, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (25:35):
But it wasn't like an egregious decision. I've seen much
boxing have seen much, much worse, like pure corruption. That
was a toast fight where either lady could have won.
Ninety five ninety four doesn't get any closer to that.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
On the official scorecards.
Speaker 5 (25:50):
My problem was they took a point away from Taylor
for the head buddy, so ninety five. That means he
could have been even wider, which doesn't make any sense
to me. Sorono landon more punches, Orlando cleaner shots.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
It's just like part of boxing.
Speaker 5 (26:04):
And a lot of people watched that fight, which is
great and they got to see those two ways because
their two best female fighters maybe of all time. But
then there's that like bad taste in some casual fans
mounts with like, oh man, that wasn't who I thought one.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Yeah, it just hurts me as like a sports guy,
like I don't I don't know, Like if they called
that a draw, I would have been like, you're kind
of right, Like it was tight. I thought Serrano one.
And when you looked at the final punching numbers, it
was like geez, but yeah, I don't know that that
sports wise, that doesn't sit too well with me.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Well, that's boxing to subject to sports.
Speaker 5 (26:38):
It's decided by three individuals ringside and they can see
three different things.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
It's the scariest thing. But the main.
Speaker 5 (26:46):
Thing, the main takeaway is that fifty million homes watched
A Man of Serano, Kay Taylor and women's boxing needed
that they needed, like a shot in the arm. But
a few years ago women's boxing was on top, but
kind of look down a little bit.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
So to number one thing I got was offering from
Netflix Mike Tyson's cheeks.
Speaker 5 (27:06):
I hate Jake Paul and A Man Torano and Kay
Taylor are awesome.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Yeah, give me I mean, Dan, this is kind of
awesome because I didn't tell you. Hey, have we ever
talked on the phone before?
Speaker 3 (27:17):
No, when I thought I.
Speaker 5 (27:18):
Was getting spamed, when you call me I getting am
I getting fired from a place I.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Don't work at here? You can't do that. Give me,
give me one minute, give me your Tyson Paul thoughts
in an elevator pitch and then maybe where they can
go see hear more of your thoughts.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
So Tyson, I felt like this was a big time
moment for the legacy of Mike Tyson. You may not
have liked to fight, you may not have liked the promotion,
you may not like Jake Paul, but I think one
thing is for sure. Sixty five million homes tuned in
and the world pretty much came to a standstill because
of Mike Tyson, and that is an unbelievable testament to
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him because he's not the most This guy has done
some pinous things in his life, but he's just a
human being that everyone gravitates towards.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
I don't think it was bad for boxing. I think
it was good for boxing.
Speaker 5 (28:09):
I just think it was a night where you're gonna
get two big names and they're gonna try to make money.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
And that's what kind of boxing is.
Speaker 5 (28:16):
It's the only stage where you can do that, individuals
making money one and for one night.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
So I think it was a big Mike Tyson moment, uh,
and more than it was for Jake Paul.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Yeah, it was pretty nuts to see how much juice
Tyson still has in our society. Just seeing him come
out and hearing the crowd are up, that was that
was sick something I didn't know what we'd see again.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
You know what's funny.
Speaker 5 (28:41):
It was like as the fight was playing out and
we kind of realized, like, all right, Mike is not
going to close the distance. He's not gonna take any chances.
He's fifty eight, his legs are shot, his reflexes are.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Bad, and he's sixty eight.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
The fans didn't know whether it a blue or not.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
And I've just a million flights where they saw they
start booing immediately. The fans seventy two thousand people didn't
boo right away because of the respect they have for Tyson,
Like at the fight end and everyone just kind of
just filed out and they're like, yeah, I kind of
figured that's what it would look like, but I expect
it maybe a little more out of Tyson. But you know,
I was watching the fight with Andrew Ward is a
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former champion. He's like in his forties, and he said
towards the end of his career, like, your mind sets
do this.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
And your body just can't do it. And to do
that in a ring is wild enough.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Sounds the end there sounds like a blitz ball battle.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Ad.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Hey Daniel, good to hear from you, Poppy. Where where
can people find more of you? If they liked you
on that Netflix hit?
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Oh yeah, go check me out.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
On Inside Boxing Live on Instagram and and and YouTube
to a show twice a week with former johnbo employee
and former world champion Chris al Jerry. So check me
out there, and also you can find me on all
your on your O your dating apps.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Do you get did you get that? Do you get that? Netflix?
Ig Boost?
Speaker 5 (30:05):
Oh? Yeah that and just random ass messages from people
of all.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Walks of my life.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Pretty wild.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Man.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Hey, I know I already kind of told you about
congrats and uh, next time there's a dude. I was
pretty pissed when I found out UFC was at the
Garden because I just straight up missed it. But that's like,
that's like near the top of sports events I want
to go to.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (30:30):
I was thinking about going, but I knew that I
was gonna be absolutely nothing.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
The next day after the event.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Yeah, but yeah, that was an.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Awesome event too.
Speaker 5 (30:38):
I mean every November they do initiate at the Garden,
So we'll go next year.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
All right, hook it up with tickets.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
You got it?
Speaker 1 (30:47):
All right, Dan, I'll talk to you, Poppy.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
BBD, I love you, broo.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Wow my dam see it wrong number, but thank you
for calling. So the boxing was good and we already
segued into UFC. Man, I'm I'm so in. I started
even getting like more and more emotional about it because
I'll give you the honest run through, and this is
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like as big of a UFC I have. We have
no attachment or connection to the UFC. Let me preface
that by saying this Saturday night, I saw it was
John Bones Jones. I don't even know. I just know
John Bones Jones is a bad man. I think Chandler
Jones was his brother who played in the NFL for
a while and was like an all pro d ND.
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I just remember John Bones Jones being a stud. He
was killing people. He had some went through it off
the field, and then he's back and he's one of
the people they debate is the goat. It was at MSG.
I did a one scratch and one look at tickets
just to be like should I go? And then I
was like, I'm not going buy my I'm in comfy clothes.
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Was at six pm. It's dark out anyways. It sounds
like I'm going next here with Dan and he's got tickets,
so that's sweet. So I was like, but you know what,
I'm I'm gonna watch I get sucked in. They start
him off on ESPN and then at ten pm you
have to go over to the pay per view. Tried
the illegal stream for a little bit. I'll be honest,
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you know, eighty bucks by myself, me and the dog
watching UFC. It's not my best investment. That's something they
tell me an investment school. Hey, if you could save
that and watch the illegal screen, good investment. Uh watch
for a little bit. Gave out and I said, you
know what, I'm enjoying this enough. I'm a man. I
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bought it, caved in, watched it. The production is so good.
And if you're a John Boy media person, that's like,
you know, yeah, John Boy Media, you guys know something
about production, blitz ball Battle, all that stuff. I mean,
I do and I don't. It's one of Jim's strengths.
Obviously we've put a lot of time into it. But UFC,
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the amount of info they give you about the fighters
is perfect. The booth is perfect. It's Rogan with intense
knowledge about UFC, going back to the early days. Also
with like full reign to be sense of humor and
like honest, like if a boxer's in crazy good shape,
we're gonna be like, look, how good is shape this
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dude isn't if there's a fighter in horrible shape, they'll
be like, this guy's out of shape right now. He
doesn't look good. He's moving bad, like it's pretty cool.
You get super honest commentary, Annik great by play by
play and does enough of his quirks to keep it
moving in Cormier with great insights, still having fought a
lot of these guys in recent years, the heavyweights, at least,
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it's an amazing product. Every fight you're vested in the
contrast and fighting styles. This guy's gonna try to choke
out this guy. This guy doesn't want to go to
the ground with this guy. This guy's trying for the
first round knockout. He's never been in a fight around
fight before, so he's more tired than he's ever been.
I love it, I love all of it. I was
sending passionate message about how good it is. I mean,
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some of these guys are obviously sick puppies and they
know that entertainment wise, even if you're going to lose
the fight, you need to put an entertainment value. One guy, Chandler,
American little dude. He was losing the fight. He keept
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getting taken to the ground by Brazilian guy Oliviera, saying
that right probably not. I'm sorry to the people, to
all my Portuguese listeners, but by the end he was
still fighting like one of these guys Michael Chandler Olivieri. Yeah,
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he was going to have to knock him out to win,
and he was given some big blows. He couldn't get
the big one that By the end, he was kind
of wrapped up again. He in a showmanship way. He
stood up twice with Oliver wrapped around him and just
body slammed him, knowing it wouldn't do enough damage to
win him the match, but it won over the crowd.
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John Bones Jones the champ. He beats Mia chich guy
with a lot of titles, like most decorated heavyweight. They
kept saying he's older, he's forty one. He kind of
came out of retirement for this. He retires right after
the match. John Bones Jones was too much for him.
And that was fun just watching someone considered the goat
still be the goat. I think he's at age thirty
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seven or something like that. This is why this sport wins.
So I talked about boxing and I want the right fighter.
I want the right person to win all that middleweight fight.
Here comes Bo Nickel, great name college wrestler. He was
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like he was voted the best college wrestler in twenty nineteen.
So you're like, okay, that's where again. UFC is kind
of cool. This guy we've been told as a world
class wrestler. He's undefeated, he's seven and oh, he's got
kind of this no nonsense Midwest attitude for him. I
think he's actually from New Mexico or something like that.
And dude, his interviews are just kind of what you
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want to fight her. He was like, yeah, I don't.
Wrestling was over and I just want to keep fighting people.
So I started doing this and you're like, okay. He said.
Fighting is his favorite thing. He said, him and his
buddies in middle school, they used to get yelled at
so much by their parents because they just fight each other.
They just hang out and fight. And now this guy's
in the UFC. Anyways, he's American, playing at the garden, undefeated.
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The crowd's all about him. They love him. Seven and oh,
this guy's the next star. He's an ex McGregor, all
of it. He comes out cheers. He's fighting this Scottish guy.
Paul Craig can't understand him. Handsome, but he's on his
way down. Seventeen to nine and one that means this
guy's lost nine fights in an octagon. That's a bad time.
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But he's on his way down as bon Nickel's on
his way up. And that's kind of how it works.
In UFC, bon Nichol was winning, but in an unimpressive fashion,
like he wasn't trying to go for takedowns, he wasn't
trying to do impact blows. He was just like casually
winning the fight. The crowd just started booing them, instant turn,
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instant turn, if you're not going to entertain us and
fight like hell, we don't want it, and it was crazy.
They hand him his belt to go seven and oh
undefeated in UFC, Madison Square Garden's booing him and he
does his interview and credit to him because he that's
gotta be a weird feeling. The months of preparation slash
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your whole life building up to this fight in him
and you were the fan favorite and now you're getting
booed twenty minutes later after you've won. It's a weird
mix of emotions. He handled it pretty good. He was like,
hey man, I've been building my way up. I only
have six fights against people who are not of Paul
Craig's ability like, I'm kind of sorry you didn't get
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the show you wanted, but I kind of just had
a dominant victory over a very good fighter. I feel good,
and it's like, yeah, and you should man. Good for you.
But it's just emotions that other sports cannot tap into.
With that instant criss cross, a potential moment where one
punch or one kick dictates the fight. There was a
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guy fighting on one leg, like he just it basically
wasn't able to stand on his back leg, so he
was still hopping around and fighting, and it's like that
changes things, that changes your whole dynamic. I can't believe
how sucked in I get to it every time. I
paid eighty dollars of my own money and I didn't
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regret it at all. So Dan's got me front row
seats at the next one. I'm excited for it. If
you're someone that's been shy to UFC, I recommend it,
whether it's with a group of friends or out at
a bar or something. It's just a weird. It's a
weird real world that they've created, and some of the
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blood and stuff is tough. I'll be honest. There's a
the two females were fighting a Rougio and Silva, and
there's a lot of blood going on. I didn't love
it for a minute. I'll be real with you, but
next big UFC fight, and I think there's one. I
think it was like December seventh or December tenth, I'll
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be watching. So if you're about it, let me know.
Let's finish up with some NFL football sasake fighting in football.
That's what waken Jake does a fun NFL weekend. I
was able to digest a lot of it. Man, I
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was gonna say, let's go back to Thursday's game. I
barely remember. This was the Saquon two TD game. I
should have been three, but tush push at the one.
They end up beating the Commanders twenty six to eighteen.
Gives them a stronghold in the NFC East. The panicky
two and two Eagles fire Siriani. They're now eight and two,
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and I think Nick Siriani has like the seventh best
NFL coaching record of all time by win percentage. It's
it's funny where his perception is at in and outside
of Philly. They're back to kind of being the feared
Eagles and when you're looking for an NFC team to
come out, they've got quite the argument right now in
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Saquon that is playing out of his dome. I'm starting
to think he was not the problem in New York,
which brings us to Sunday. The Euro Games are out. People.
The big game that I've been teasing for a couple weeks,
Bill's Chiefs will get there. It's the four pm at
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one pm Bears Packers. My god again. I know I'm
doing a lot of cross promo for shows that don't
need cross promo, but just go listen to the tone
in Big Cat's voice about at Chicago Bears because they
are so broken by the Green Bay Packers. I think
Matt Lafleur is eleven and zero against the Bears. I
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think if you go back, it's something crazy, it's like
forty eight and eleven or something like how badly the
Packers that seemingly always have a quarterback against the Bears
that seemingly always don't, how much they have dominated this game.
It ends on a block field goal where the Bears
could have went for more yards and they did not,
and the Packers. It's always funny when you get the
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story afterwards. They said the Packers special teams was saying
all week how they're going to block a kick? Probably
say that every week, right, I mean, i'd have to
assume that's probably part of the goal. But when you
do it on the game ending play, that feels good.
The Packers seven and three. Speaking of NFC teams as
we start to boil up for their playoffs, Christian Watson,
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by the way, four catches one fifty. It's about fifty
yards catch analytics. Lions Jaguars, Holy smokes fifty two to six.
The spread in this game was minus fourteen, and the
Lions showed how dominant they are. GoF God gets four touchdowns,
Montgomery runs for two, Son God catches two. The most
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dominant win of the year the Lions, and how good
they look so far this year NFC early on the Vikes,
Titans really no thank you. Although the Vikings are now
eight and two, crazy, you turn your head and you're
just kind of like what they had lost a lot
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of their momentum. People were kind of fading Donald a
little bit. No more. The eight and two Vikings. Who
do they have coming up? They have the Bears, Okay, Bears, Cardinals, Falcons,
watch out for them, Broncos, Bears again, Seahawks, Packers, Lions.
I mean these eight and two Vikes, there's no reason
they shouldn't go at least five hundred the rest of
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the way. And you're looking at an eleven win ball
club in Minnesota this year. Crazy crazy story from them, Dolphins, Raiders,
No thank you. I will say this. Dolphins, They've got
a little bit of the juice and they were my
big bet I hit this weekend, so I was happy
about that, and it didn't look like it was gonna hit.
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A lot of back and forth late in this game.
If you know you knew Rams Patriots not really. Rams
are back to five hundred, Matty Stafford four touchdowns. Hey, Patriots,
I know this this year isn't gonna look so good.
But Drake May looks solid. There was a couple funny
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texts in the group chat. One of my buddies was
ribbing my New England Patriot friends about them not having
Lad McConkie and how much of a movie it would
be Lad McConkie, and that Patriots White Saints Brown's No
Saints rolled them four and seven, two game win streak.
The Taysom Hill game seven carries for one thirty eight
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three touchdowns. That guy man the Colts and the Jets.
The Colts win twenty eight to twenty seven. The Jets
dropped to three and eight. I don't know, man, I
don't know. If it's franchises. I don't know if it
was fireing sala, I don't it's Rogers curses. The Jets
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are up there. The Jets are up there. When it
comes to being cursed, Anthony Richardson puts it away with
a late touchdown run. Colts still alive in this thing.
Ar five had like a good game. You wonder if
that benching could have been good for him, either health
wise or for his headspace. But they are back. And
how about those Denver Broncos being back Falcons. I was
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trying to drink their kool aid. I think there were
six and three Kirk slinging it. They're now six and five.
They only score six point against that vaunted Broncos defense.
Boe Nicks for passing touchdowns, I mean Williams nine carries
fifty nine yards in one touchdown. The horse sees again,
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this was a game. I didn't I didn't come in
expecting anything from them. They showed up. And now they've
got Raiders, Browns, Colts. Let's go Bronco Nation. Let's ride
anything else in the one into the four pm raven Stillers.
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The Steelers take down my Ravens. I think I'm gonna
take my Super Bowl prediction hat off the Ravens, partially
because they've lost a couple close games like this. The
Steelers win eighteen to sixteen. No tuddies, man, this was
just AFC North football, grindy, gritty, hard hitting. The Justin
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Field slide short at the end was kind of tough
to watch, but it doesn't end up hurting them. King
Henry with his first fumble on the opening drive and
like five hundred something carries, he came to the bench
like a guy who fumbled for the first time in
five hundred something carries. Mike Tomlin, you can't say it.
He has to be the leader for a Coach of
the Year. At this point the game, two Steelers behind
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Fields and Wilson, and yeah, they were wondering, how seriously
do they have to take them? Because they have that
world class defense they're now eating too. I don't know,
I don't have them as an actual super Bowl threat yet.
But maybe that's being rude because they just beat my Ravens. Well,
I'm taking out for now because there's a couple things
I don't like besides the losing. I think Lamar is
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one in four against the Steelers against Tomlin. I might
have those stats wrong. Maybe that's in Pittsburgh, but there
was that. There's the Lamar you know, Lamar's playoff stuff,
which I've been willing to look over because all it
takes is one good one to put all that in
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your rear view. Man, the Justin Tucker thing is very real.
That was part of their team identity, the Ravens. It
kind of felt like going into half or whenever they
had the ball, if they were getting near midfield, it
was Justin Tucker time, and he felt automatic. He doesn't not.
He is really struggling. It's not just him, but it's
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a big part of it where I think I'm taking
my super Bowl hat off the Ravens for now. Speaking
of another team people want to the forty nine Ers
lose to the Seahawks and then the final seconds again
Gino runs one in. I don't know. Everyone was buying
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up Niner stock McCaffrey's back. Here we go, No go
Seahawks five and five, Niners five and five, Rams five
and five. The Cardinals continue to lead that division. They
were on their bye week this week seems like one
of those years for the Niners. It's just off and again,
I've talked about the injuries a lot. It just hasn't clicked. Hey,
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if the playoff lights come on and they get a
good first round matchup, everyone will be back. But they've
been off this year. The game of the weekend Bills
Chiefs the game of the year arguably the Chiefs in
their win streak, which I tried to put on your radar,
the Bills looking for redemption. I tried to tee this
up the best I could between this is one of
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Buffalo's best chances to get them, and they end up
getting them thirty to twenty one. Josh Allen looks good,
ends the game with incredible rushing touchdown. He's just so
big and powerful. It's incredible to watch. The Chiefs. They
felt they felt a step off this year, but they
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just kept winning and Mahomes is still there. This doesn't
change much. This is you know, in Buffalo, close game,
but they do end up losing it big one for
the Bills. It was funny to see. I think I
think Allen is four to one against Mahomes in the
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regular season, Mahomes three to zero in the postseason. That's
how you get remembered, folks. Huge for Buffalo. Do I
have them as my Super Bowl favorites right now? I
don't know if I'm willing to don that. I think
I'd still take the Chiefs over them, which is horribly rude.
But that Mahomes guy and that Reid guy are still there,
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and if this game is in Kansas City, I don't
think Buffalo gets it. So they are currently the nine
and one Chiefs and the nine and two Bills. Let's
see how the Chiefs look the rest of the way.
They get a nice little medicine game after this, the
Carolina Panthers and then the Raiders, so expect them to
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get back on the winning train and at night Chargers Bengals.
And I was excited to talk about this one today
because falling deeper and deeper in love with Joe Burr
and he has another massive game, leads an incredible comeback.
They were down was it twenty four to six? Might
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have even been twenty one to three at one point,
whatever it was, Burrow leads them back twenty sevens on
the scoreboard and they end up blowing it. Each team
had a couple chances late. I think there were some
like three kicks in the final two minutes. It might
have even been four. McPherson remember when he was a
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star player for their team, Money McPherson. He missed two
kicks him and Justin Tucker. Those two were viewed as
like one A one B bucker in the mix couple
other guys. McPherson has missed a few field goals that
have changed the outlook of this Bengals season that now
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they're sitting at four and seven. And by the way,
I'm not selling any of my Burrow ground or position.
He was awesome. Some of the throws he made into
some of the windows, and some of the plays he
makes with his legs and in the pocket. It's kind
of unmatched to me in his playing style. Herbert was
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solid and fine and made the made the two passes
at the end that he had to make. Lad mcconkeye
is good six catches one twenty three. The two big
passes I mentioned were both to him and the Chargers
Hardball seven and three, and yeah, interested to see how
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this year wraps up with the Bengals and their head
coach Zach Taylor, because I don't know this, this feels
off and Cincinnati as a city be careful because if
this guy ever wants out of town or leaves town,
be very bad for Cincinnati. Just a reminder, LSU lost
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again this weekend. Go look at LSU outside of Joe Burrow.
It's a slightly different narrative. It's a slightly different way
to view the program as a whole, since from Saban
to Burrow, six thirty to thirty and Ellen, Louisiana, And hey, tonight,
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how about them Cowboys? We'll watch because we like sports.
Cowboys Texans Houston minus seven in Jerry's world. So they
cleared that place out pretty quick. How do you like that? So, hey, guys,
funky episode today, a lot of physical fighting sports. Not
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my norm, but I enjoyed it this weekend and it
was another testament to how sports can, just when you
least expect it, poke their head out there and give
you something. So I hope you guys enjoy it. I
think might get jolly the Bear Jolly Olive for Wednesday's episode,
so we'll look into that. Thank you, guys.
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