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July 22, 2025 42 mins

Jason Fitz and Buck Reising are in for Covino Rich on this Tuesday edition of the show! They open things up discussing the Cowboys' standoff with star edge rusher Micah Parsons, debating why exactly Dallas has once again waited so long to pay their star player. Then they get into Scottie Scheffler winning The Open Championship following comments about winning in golf being unfulfilling... does he have any obligation to be "the face" of golf?

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
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Speaker 3 (00:20):
The Dallas Cowboys are fighting in the most public of ways,
and make no mistake about it.

Speaker 4 (00:25):
Every single time.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
Micah Parson steps in front of a microphone, every single
time Jerry Jones steps in front of a microphone, none
of it is accidental. At this point, it is very
clear Mommy and Daddy are fighting. They are fighting in
their negotiations, and they are fighting in a wildly public
way that we all get to see. And frankly, if
you love drama, I'm here for every single second of it.

(00:48):
It's Covino on Rich on Fox Sports Radio. But it's
not really Kavino Rich. It's a Bucket fits takeover of
Covino and Rich. We're having some technical difficulties. We're working
on getting Buck rising in. Buck will be joining us
in just a minute.

Speaker 4 (00:59):
For Claire. I can see Buck, so I know.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
That he didn't just bail on us because his birthday
was this weekend and he was out gallivanting around the
West Coast celebrating.

Speaker 4 (01:08):
Like the elitist he is.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
No, I can actually see Bucks, so we'll have Buck
in just a second. But right now you don't have
to be able to see anything. You can just listen
and you're gonna get all the drama you could possibly
get in the Dallas Cowboys.

Speaker 4 (01:19):
Now where does this all come from?

Speaker 3 (01:21):
Okay, today, the big part, and you just heard Isaac
talking a little bit about this is Jerry Jones sat
in front of a mic Now, Jerry Jones in front
of a microphone has become at this point the sort
of moment that everybody holds their breath, like you know
when you sit at the Thanksgiving table that you get
to a certain age with their me mo and your papa.
Like the minute they talk, he hold your breath a
little bit. You're like, I'm not.

Speaker 4 (01:42):
Sure this could go really wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
That's how I feel every time Jerry goes to speak,
because you just don't know if it's gonna go well
or if it's gonna go poorly. So when he sits
in front of a microphone and he makes some very
public comments about the negotiations with Michael Parsons. He talks
about Mica and not being available. He talks about having
been careful with these things. It's all about a statement,
And I think the real statement Jerry's trying to.

Speaker 4 (02:05):
Make here is it his feelings are hurt.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
Like, think about Jerry in the way he does everything, Okay,
think about Jerry Jones and the way he hangs out. Well,
Jerry is one of those guys that we all know
this like, Jerry likes a little bit of respect, likes Jerry,
likes his billions all right, Jerry likes to come out
and have everybody just falln at Jerry Jones. So when
Michael Parsons went on a podcast last week and said, look,

(02:29):
our camp wanted to get this deal done last year.
Our camp wanted to get the money gone, like we
wanted to make sure that everything was taken care of.
And Michael Parson says, it's always complicated when it comes
to the Cowboys. He's telling old man Jerry Jones down
the road, you're making things complicated.

Speaker 4 (02:44):
So what did we expect? Buck is now with us?

Speaker 3 (02:46):
Buck, what could we possibly have expected from Jerry Jones?

Speaker 4 (02:50):
Other than to sit at the microphone and have some
sort of a clap back.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
There is no world that exists where billionaire old man
Jerry Jones ain't gonna say something about Michael Parsons saying
something about him.

Speaker 5 (03:00):
He lives for this kind of stuff and whether or
not it's gonna be to his detriment, obviously, we're gonna
have to wait and see how this all plays out.
But I mean, who do you feel worse for in
this situation than poor Brian Schottheimer. He's getting hired as
the Cowboys head coach. He's sitting up there in his
introductory press conference, Jerry's you know, pointing at him off

(03:22):
to the side, being like, you don't think I take risks.
This guy's the biggest risk I've ever taken in not
so many words, And now he's up there firing off
pot shots at the star pass rusher, and the pass
rusher is subtweeting him on social media because of course
football season is back, and that means Dallas Cowboys drama
is back. That it did it really go anywhere at all?

(03:44):
It's gonna be a lot of fun. Unless you're a
Cowboys fan, then you're probably in hell.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
I can't imagine. Look, there are two things can be
true at once. Let me be clear about this. The
Cowboys are gonna sign Michael Parsons. He's gonna get massive money.
They always get it done. They got it when everybody
said they wouldn't get Zeke done. They got it done
when people just the amount of asinine, terrible takes. If
you listen to somebody that told you that the Cowboys
weren't gonna sign Dak, don't listen to him anymore, all right,

(04:11):
Like there's a level of stupidity that went into so
many of these takes around the Cowboys.

Speaker 4 (04:15):
The Cowboys always get it done.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
They're gonna overpay. And when I mean overpay, they're not
overpaying Michael Parsons. When they pay him, he's worth every
time they're giving him. They're overpaying because they've waited years
to get the deal done. Right, Like, you have to
acknowledge at some point that since if they had done
Michael Parsons last year, the Max Crosby's new deal, Garrett
to Miles Garrett's new deal, TJ Watt's new deal, all

(04:38):
of these things absolutely explode the market. Right, So, if
we're being honest, the Cowboys are gonna get done. They're
just costing themselves money. And if Jerry wants to cost
themselves money, who gives it damn. But the flip side
of it is buck like every single time that it
takes them too long to sign somebody, we all know
what that means. Like that means they're losing a little
bit of roster of flexibility. My issue here isn't that

(04:58):
the Cowboys aren't gonna get it done. I frankly don't
even care that they're arguing about it. Like as a
lover of reality TV, I love the drama, give it
to me. My issue here is that the Cowboys have
erased any wiggle room in error for roster construction because
they overpay compared to what they could have gotten all
these guys.

Speaker 5 (05:14):
At And that's the question as to how long they'll
be able to prolong their window of competitiveness, right.

Speaker 6 (05:21):
And what even is there? What even is the is
obviously the.

Speaker 5 (05:24):
Objective is to win the Super Bowl, like the objective
should year in and year out be to win the
Super Bowl. I have no doubts that Jerry Jones wants
to win the Super Bowl. But this is a question
of can he control himself, Fitzy. This has just been
the subject of great reporting done by Pro Football Talk
and Pablo tore about Roger Gudell having to get in
front of ownership after Jimmy Haslam handed to Shaun Watson

(05:47):
out a fully guaranteed contract and be like, hey, everybody,
sit down in front of me.

Speaker 6 (05:52):
We're never going to do this again.

Speaker 5 (05:53):
Okay, maybe we get in a little trouble because we're
talking about this out lot, but we're never going to
do this again. And then Jerry does the Jerry thing,
which is he gets attached to his guys and he
overpays relative to the market, and they don't give themselves
margin for error. And we are going to hang on
every word, every word that this man says because it's
going to impact everything about the business of the Dallas Cowboys.

(06:16):
The question is can Jerry control himself? Every time he
gets up to the podium and has asked one of
these questions, the answer tends to be no. The finances,
of course, make it even more complicated.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
Well, and look the part of this with the Super Bowl.
I said this a million times Cowboys fans. Look I
say this with love, I really do. You're not special, Like,
oh the oh my god, we haven't won a Super
Bowl since Oh okay, you know how many teams haven't
won a Super Bowl in that amount of time. Just
because you got a star on your helmet doesn't make
you that special. Like cool, you haven't won a Super Bowl.

(06:48):
You and a bunch of the league haven't won a
Super Bowl. So like every time Cowboys the media sits there,
and like, I know it's easy to pick on the media,
but every time I turn on TV and they say.

Speaker 4 (06:58):
Well, the Cowboys haven't won a Super since the nineties.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
I'm like, Okay, let's make a list of every team
in the NFL that hasn't won a Super Bowl in
the nineties and ask how much I care that the
Cowboys are part of it. Like it's okay, you're just
like everybody else.

Speaker 4 (07:10):
You're not special.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
What makes you special is you're a big brand. And
like we're gonna get into this some today, Like there's
a difference between being great and being a great brand,
and they're allowed to be two different things. Like you
don't have to be the best car maker in the world.
You gotta be the most popular car maker in the world.
The Cowboys are one of them, like they're one of
the most popular brands in sports. Huzzah, congratulations, Like that's

(07:31):
you won that, that's the title you really wanted, because
that's why everybody pays attention to you. But like the
fact that they haven't won a Super Bowl in a
long time, I just don't give it.

Speaker 6 (07:39):
Damn FETCHI. Why are you yelling at them about that.

Speaker 5 (07:41):
They can't do anything about That's what they're supposed to do,
that's what they want.

Speaker 6 (07:44):
Of course they're gonna, of course they're gonna sit there and.

Speaker 5 (07:46):
Have that conversation like I you're shaking a fist of
the fan to be like you're not that special, and
they're like, I know, we just want to be.

Speaker 6 (07:52):
I got what, Well.

Speaker 4 (07:54):
No, no, no. I I genuinely think Cowboy fans.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
I think Cowboys fans believe that every year they walk
into the season with an intrinsic right to be a
Super Bowl contender. And it's like, guess what, No, you're not.
You're just not different. You're not differently, You're not different
than the Patriots are right now. Okay, like the Patriots
went through an era where things were a little different
for them, But like you just who cares.

Speaker 4 (08:15):
I don't care about the.

Speaker 5 (08:16):
Star, No, no, But because what you're saying is that fans
should not expect to win on a consistent basis, no
matter how unrealistic those expectations are. AND's a Jets fan,
for God's sakes. Jets fans walk around every offseason like
they are entitled to win nine games, and then something
happens and they do the Jets thing and they're in

(08:37):
hell afterwards, and they sit there during their football season
and they say, how foolish were we that we ever
thought that this team, this franchise, who actually looks like
it's being run pretty professionally here in the last couple months.
Don't want to get too excited, but is moving in
that direction Like you're yelling at Cowboys fans for not
being special. They're doing the thing that every fan base
does at this time of year. Specifically of course they are.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
No, No, the Cowboys do that on it like on
a just a coked out level, Like it's a much
a different level for Cowboys fans are.

Speaker 5 (09:04):
There's more of them, because there's more of them. I
can't believe I'm defending Cowboys fans. I'm so confused.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
Every one of us starts the year like we're at
the local convenience store and we're waiting for a scratch
off lottery ticket and we're all believing that we're gonna win.
The difference is that like most of us realize, Like
Ian's a Jets fan, he knows by week five he's
gonna have his heart ripped out and his team's not
going to be any good, and then he'll.

Speaker 6 (09:29):
Come back to stop doing this.

Speaker 5 (09:31):
Ian's a Jets fans has taken brutal punches to start
the show right now.

Speaker 4 (09:36):
Everybody, Look, look, I'm a Raiders fan.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
By week three, I will have to accept the fact
that this team is gain going to suck, like that's
just okay, and it's and it hurts and its stinks
and all this stuff. But I don't sit there and
just pound the floor like a child throwing attentionum because
I didn't win the lottery, Like that's what Cowboys fans
whoever either went no other franchise. You have never heard
a Jags fan sit there and say we've never won

(10:00):
Super Bowl like they understand they suck. All I'm asking
Cowboys fans to do is understand that you live in
the sea of mediocrity, like and that's.

Speaker 4 (10:07):
Where you belong, just like everybody else. Like some years
you're gonna be good, some years you're gonna be bad.

Speaker 6 (10:12):
That's the way it goes.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
You can't get pissed off every time somebody else wins
this scratch off lottery ticket and it wasn't you Like,
it's just it's it's a winning a lottery to have
a winning football team.

Speaker 5 (10:22):
Yeah, but you don't that's not the way that they
you know that, that's not the way that fans think
about that at all. Of course they don't think about
it that way.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
You kill the one that calls out fans stupidity all
the time. What's happening to this role reversus we're having
a fil oh No?

Speaker 5 (10:35):
I mean, because well, it's one specific fan base. I
cover a local team that thinks they should that actually
thinks that they should matter in the landscape of the
NFL when they couldn't be a less relevant NFL franchise
here in Nashville. And that's you know, that's that's a
different kind of stupidity that I'm battling because it's why
don't we matter?

Speaker 6 (10:53):
And it's not it's not that you don't matter. It's
that they don't care. It's two different conversations.

Speaker 5 (10:58):
What you are asking if Cowboys fans is campletely unrealistic,
and the fact that you can't see that while still
making demands at them this way saying, don't hold our
organization accountable, don't get excited about the offseason and the
things that the Cowboys fans and the brand should expect
to be on a year in, year out basis.

Speaker 6 (11:15):
I'm with them. I'm absolutely with them.

Speaker 5 (11:18):
Truth to power, baby, that Jerry should be shouted down
at every turn because that franchise used to mean something,
and the fact that it doesn't means that they should
be louder, not be relegated into this sea of suck
that you're trying to send them away into.

Speaker 6 (11:32):
Absolutely not.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
No, you don't get to sit there and cry about
how bad your life is as a fan of the
Cowboys because they are one the Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (11:41):
Since you're nineties, like.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
You do, nobody has like, oh man, the number of teams.

Speaker 5 (11:47):
Jason fitz is trying to take away your god given
fan right. I grant you permission. Let there be unrealistic expectations.
It's July, baby, football we're back training camp, nobody's lost
the game yet, and the Cowboys are gonna win it all.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
I don't mind the the unrealistic expectations in July. I
mind the temper tantrum being thrown like a child that
didn't get what they want at the local Chili's in
December because their team has let them down, like get
kicked in the no no places like the rest of
us take it and move on, like, don't sit there
and lament how bad it is for you to be
a Cowboys fan when realistically you've won a lot of games,

(12:23):
you've gone to some playoffs, like things have gone pretty well.

Speaker 4 (12:26):
Like it's just they've lost total perspective.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
They think that they deserve more than that simply because
they're Cowboys fans.

Speaker 4 (12:31):
I'm not buying it.

Speaker 5 (12:33):
And I want it on record, in fact, its own record,
because this is nationally broadcast radio, that Jason Fitz would
like children to be kicked in the no no places
anytime they attended Chili's.

Speaker 4 (12:40):
Yeap, writing it down right now, That's.

Speaker 5 (12:42):
What I got away from the That's as much that's
as much learning as I've been able to take away
from this conversation. Other than fits is pissed at fans
for being fans.

Speaker 4 (12:51):
You know what, I don't want to kick the child.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
I do think that like if we all got one good,
one good like run up kick at the parents, like
there'd be less. Oh I'm trying children. I'm I'm the
guy that does obviously doesn't have kids. I'm not making
friends today. He's spart writing. We're just getting started. You'll
hear from Jerry Jones as we continue this conversation. Also

(13:15):
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express never charges job seekers a. Fee, Look Scotty schffler
doesn't need a. Job he went out and won another
tournament this, weekend which is just sort of what he.
Does but the funny thing, is BUCK i was sitting
there at a bar and the guy sitting next to me, said,
man he's the Modern. Tiger AND i keep thinking about
the actions that we ask of the, greatest right like

(17:18):
it is so often we sit back and we want
the greatest to be more than just the. Greatest we
want them also to suddenly step up and become more than.

Speaker 4 (17:25):
That and in, Fact Jordan speed.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
Talked about what Makes Scotty scheffler, great and you could
perceive some of this was a little back at.

Speaker 4 (17:33):
IT i want you to hear What Jordan speed specifically
had to. Say this is.

Speaker 3 (17:37):
How he handled the question about what Makes Scotty scheffler.

Speaker 8 (17:40):
Great he doesn't care to be a. Superstar if he's
not transcending the game Like tiger. Did he's not bringing
it to non golf. Audience, necessarily he doesn't want to
go do you know the stuff that you know a
lot of us go do corporately anything like. That he
just wants to get away from the game and separate
the two BECAUSE i know that he you, know one
time sult he was too much to who's taking it with?

(18:03):
Him and you know whenever he made that, SWITCH i
don't know when it, was but you, know to have his,
Hobbies he's always with his, family you, know always doing.
STUFF i think it's more so the difference in personality
from any other superstar that you've seen in the modern,
era and maybe any.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
Sport bucket raises that question like if he's great at
what he, does why should he give a damn about
being in the face of a.

Speaker 5 (18:23):
Sport, well he doesn't have, to, Right that's the WHOLE i.
Mean Anthony edwards got thrust into the middle of this
conversation in THE nba and he was very content to, say,
NO i don't want to be, WELL i.

Speaker 6 (18:35):
Don't care if you want to be or.

Speaker 5 (18:37):
Not Where if you're, excellent then we are going to
hold you to a certain standard that your performance indicates
that we.

Speaker 6 (18:43):
Should this guy that you were sitting next to in the.

Speaker 5 (18:47):
BAR i don't know if he had these statistics there
or these numbers at the ready when he mentioned That
Scotty scheffler is the modern Day, Tiger but again this
is courtesy of the. Athletic with His Open championship win,
Yesterday Scotty scheffler won his fourth major one, thousand one
hundred and ninety seven days after he won his. First
the distance between major's numbers four and one For Tiger

(19:09):
woods one, thousand one hundred and ninety seven. Days the
exact same amount of time passed between the first major
and the fourth major that they.

Speaker 6 (19:18):
Won scheffler is twenty. Nine he's only the fourth player.

Speaker 5 (19:20):
To win The Open, championship THE Us, open and The
masters before the age of. Thirty the other three Are,
Tiger Gary player And Jack. Nicholas so it's it's tough
to ignore the trajectory that this dude is. On except
the dude who is on said trajectory is excellent at ignoring,
It like he's really really just about the game of

(19:42):
golf and his family and he doesn't want to be over.
Celebrated he's clearly, confident Right he's an incredible. Competitor everything
that you hear about, him everything that you read about,
him indicates that he has this killer, instinct even if
it doesn't quite show through the way That tigers. Did
but if he's on the course and his competition is
hearing it and they're fearing it because he's clearly in

(20:04):
command of the, situation then what does it Matter if
it's not broadcast onto the public. Stage it's you, know
it's always funny because these conversations seem to vacillate between,
oh ATHLETE x is too loud and too too, brash
and to this and to, That and if we don't
get some of.

Speaker 6 (20:21):
That behavior from our, athletes.

Speaker 5 (20:24):
We start to want it a little more out of,
Them like you're so, good why aren't you talking? More
why aren't you carrying yourself a certain kind of? Way,
which as long as they go out there and are
excellent at what they, do what does it? MATTER i
mean beyond you, know obviously you want to you want
to make sure that your behavior is within the bounds
of the legal, limits because some people can take those
things two. Extremes but on the, WHOLE i, mean and you,

(20:46):
know other Than Scotty scheffler getting arrested that one, Time,
like it's it's not Like scotty's out here causing. Problems
he's just causing problems for everybody else on the golf.
COURSE i don't think they owe us any any kind
of public, statement, like all, right it's mine, Now i'm
the face of, Golf i'm the king of the, Hill
i'm the Next Tiger woods as long as they continue
to show it on a regular basis and people don't

(21:08):
take that greatness for granted in real, time like you
truly sit back and appreciate, it as opposed to immediately
launching into these, comparisons not getting into oh is he
the Next, tiger but oh my, god look At Scotty
scheffler out here dominating this, way and then after the
fact we can have these. Conversations that's completely fine with.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
ME i think the hard part about all of this
is that for golf, particularly the world seems to be
looking for the Next.

Speaker 4 (21:34):
Tiger nobody's ever going to be the Next. Tiger to,
me it's.

Speaker 3 (21:38):
Fine let's just close that chapter and stop trying to
assign someone the greatness Of, tiger because it's not just
about the greatness Of.

Speaker 4 (21:45):
Tiger it's about the social phenomenon Of.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
Tiger it's about all of the things that people that
didn't look Like tiger before did he. Accomplish like all
of these things at once in a different era created a,
sensation AND i DON'T i think at some, Point Scotty
scheffler's job is to go out and be the best
golfer he. Can and he's been very adamant in his
interviews that he cares more about his family and cares

(22:07):
more about getting away from the game than he does about.

Speaker 4 (22:09):
Any of the other.

Speaker 3 (22:10):
Stuff when you hear somebody, say, well he doesn't care
about the corporate things and blah blah, Blah i'm okay with.
THAT i just don't think that there's some great. Obligation
once you've ascended to become the best in your, sport
it is not then your job to market the sport
and make sure that the sport crows and make sure
that the next generation is inspired by. You like all
of these things that we seem to want to assign

(22:32):
to somebody that's, great just let him be. Great Like
Scotty schffler's job is to go out and win as
many tournaments as he can and he's doing, that and
if it helps him to win, tournaments to not be
distracted by all the other, junk then my, god.

Speaker 4 (22:44):
We should want him to keep doing. That like it
is not his job to be a circus. Clown it's
his job to be a.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
Golfer so once he's finished his, ROUND i just don't
think that there's any. Obligation but we're we're sitting here
as a there's a general consumption audience just looking for
somebody to stand up and be the face of everything we.
Want we want, billboards we want all of this. Attention
AND i JUST i feel like the best Thing scotty
can do is go out and be the best golfer

(23:10):
he can. Be and if you love, dominance love boring,
dominance then go for. It if you don't love boring,
dominance then he's not going to be your cup of.
Tea but that's not his, problem that's yours.

Speaker 6 (23:19):
In That and, yet but that's THAT i think you
hit the nail on the.

Speaker 5 (23:22):
Head like the crux of the issue is we are
projecting and people that want, that people are projecting how
they would behave if they were that good at, golf,
right they are projecting that kind of behavior onto their
favorite athletes and be, like, WELL i this is HOW
i would be IF i was as excellent as you,
are IF i was as what Did jim McKay say
on a broadcast the other, DAY i never thought i'd

(23:43):
see a player as close To tiger as this man currently.
Is if somebody said that about you or me and
as far as our golf, game we would be.

Speaker 6 (23:51):
Unbearable we would be.

Speaker 5 (23:52):
Awful we would be shouting for everybody to hear that
we are the best in the world and that you
know that we deserve to be treated as. Such where's my,
Carpet bring me my you, know bring me my frozen
grapes and my palm leaves to be fan with the
whole way. Through that's not Who Scotty shuffler. Is and
that's completely.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
Okay by the, way if you AND i were just
could that good at like putt, putt we'd be.

Speaker 4 (24:14):
Insufferable, nonetheless like actual real, golf like.

Speaker 9 (24:17):
It.

Speaker 5 (24:17):
Buddy if radio is my job AND i can't figure
out how to connect the last two, times are you kidding?
Me LIKE i can't even be good at my job
must as somebody.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
Else's i'm just imagining like if you ever wanted a
dynamic duo that would trash talk a child At putt,
putt it's bucking fits like there's no doubt about. It
like we if there was ever a duo that would
remind a child that were better than that, child it
would be you AND.

Speaker 4 (24:38):
I if we had a great.

Speaker 5 (24:39):
Round of pupputt and Then fitz would take it to
A chili's and kick.

Speaker 4 (24:42):
It, No i'd kick the parent if the child was.

Speaker 3 (24:45):
Great, okay, LOOK I i, GOD i, AM i am
JUST i am spiraling, Here isaac save.

Speaker 4 (24:50):
Us, look the question, is even if he wanted to,
be could he be the?

Speaker 3 (24:54):
Face, WELL i answer, that but, First, isaac gettixcot, on
what's going?

Speaker 10 (24:57):
ON i don't have to save you Because Jerry jones
was here today to save all of, Us jason And.
Bucket i'd like to publicly Think i'd like to publicly
Thank Jerry jones for, just you, know being.

Speaker 6 (25:10):
Himself just a little, bit including.

Speaker 10 (25:13):
That, well it all started with the situation Of cowboys
star Linebacker Micah. Parsons he reported to training camp today
still without a contract, extension amidst a series of eyebrow
raising comments That Jerry jones made today in the usual
first day of training camp news, conference including here Where

(25:34):
jones raises the hypothetical possibility of one of his players
getting hit by a, car complete with the coincidental but
brilliant sound of an ambulance siren off in the.

Speaker 9 (25:48):
Distance listen. Closely the contracts four or five. Years, okay
there's a lot of water under the. Bridge if you
step out there and do something in the first two
or three and get hit by car siously and so
there's a lot to look at over a lot of
years that could make a big. Difference have you ever
heard of any clubs committing to players and then they

(26:08):
didn't pan out if they committed.

Speaker 10 (26:10):
To, Them we Have Jerry jones and. Microphones a match
made in heaven. ANYWAY nfl media just reported That Green
Bay packers right Tackle zach tom has agreed to a four,
year eighty eight million dollar extension that includes a thirty
million dollars signing, bonus the largest signing bonus for an
offensive lineman IN nfl. History Kansas City chiefs head Coach

(26:31):
Andy reid just announced that offensive Tackle Juwan taylor will
begin training camp on the physically unable to perform list
finally In Major League. Baseball multiple outlets report The Kansas
City royals are calling a forty five year old Pitcher
Rich hill for his twenty First Major league. Season jason
and buckall, yours.

Speaker 3 (26:51):
Oh, Man Jerry jones is truly the gift that keeps on.
Giving he's buck rising, Up Jason Fitz it's bucking fits
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Speaker 6 (27:28):
Scotti scheffler For birdie at. Eighteen have to get to eighteen.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
To five.

Speaker 4 (27:39):
The MOMENT a waits to tap In Scottie. Scheffler he's
now joined the company Of golf's.

Speaker 6 (27:48):
Graats he is the champion of the open A Royal
Port rush twenty twenty.

Speaker 3 (27:56):
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up for us as quickly as humanly.

Speaker 4 (28:02):
Possible we appreciate.

Speaker 3 (28:03):
Him.

Speaker 4 (28:04):
Buck here's the here's the.

Speaker 6 (28:05):
Thing Curtis, radio by the, Way.

Speaker 3 (28:08):
Okay thank, you, okay Give scotti well, Done Scotti, SCHEFFLER
i mean well.

Speaker 5 (28:14):
DONE i don't know who's whispering sweet nothings About Scotty
scheffler into my, ear but it's.

Speaker 6 (28:19):
Disconcerting what is?

Speaker 4 (28:21):
It or or or or just Maybe buck kind of
likes it.

Speaker 5 (28:26):
HERE i, mean the hair on my arms is standing.
UP i don't know if that's a good thing or
a bad. Thing i'm not sure what's happening.

Speaker 6 (28:32):
Here i'm. Confused, well.

Speaker 4 (28:36):
A bit of. Both bragger that you have hair on your.
Arms some of us shave arms for our. Tattoo some
of us, don't.

Speaker 3 (28:41):
Apparently, look If Scotty scheffler was in front of you
in line at, target you would tell him to hurry.

Speaker 4 (28:49):
Up like that's how like there's just if you ever
wanted a s.

Speaker 5 (28:55):
In front of, me if they're not walking with a
purpose or not, moving you know with, PACE i tell
everybody to have.

Speaker 4 (28:59):
Off that's probably. True i'm just saying like some people have.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
It some people from a mile away you're, like, yeah that,
guy that's a rock, star and some people are just
not rock. Stars Like scotti is an incredible, golfer he's
not a rock star LIKE i just when you watch,
him you don't look at him and, think.

Speaker 4 (29:17):
Oh my, GOD i am just glued to THE. Tv
what's the next thing he's gonna say or?

Speaker 3 (29:22):
Do LIKE i don't Think Scotty, scheffler for all of his,
greatness has the personality that necessarily is going to meet
people flock in from the streets because oh my, God
Scotty scheffler is on the eighteenth. Hole like it's just
if you are a random casual that's walking by and
golf is, on you are not suddenly, saying oh my.

Speaker 4 (29:38):
God everybody stop There. Scotty like it's just there's a
lack of star power for. Him and that's.

Speaker 5 (29:43):
No you are speaking about this as somebody who Called
The masters, Overrated, Okay like you are not in a
position to be talking about.

Speaker 6 (29:53):
This the personality is not why people.

Speaker 5 (29:55):
Are going to stop and draw themselves To Scottis. Jeffler
it's because he's an insane. Golfer it's not about what he,
says or what he, does or what he looks, like
or whether or not you'd shout at him if he
wasn't moving fast enough in line of, target like he'd
be shopping at, target although we probably would based on
the personality that you just. Described it's the fact that

(30:16):
he's won ten straight tournaments in which he has a
fifty four hole. LEAD i mean It's Tiger. Woods his
longest streak was thirty. Six but Like, Scottie scheffler is.
Insane he is an insanelet he is a. Touch, no
it doesn't matter what kind of ridiculatter came out to your.
Mouth what do you, Mean it doesn't. Matter we don't Flock.
CONNECTICUT i would grab you by your tiny little four

(30:38):
eleven shoulders AND i would shake you like that baby
In chili's five.

Speaker 4 (30:42):
Nine out a.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
Quarter look we, like let's just acknowledge what we are
as a. Society we don't. Want we don't flock to.
Greatness we flocked a great. Drama we flocked to great.
Personalities you know, This, like, okay are you gonna look?
Me in the eye right, now and tell.

Speaker 5 (30:57):
Me that you think detail want to look in the
right now ever seen ask that that the intimacy is.

Speaker 6 (31:01):
Gone we don't look at each other in the eye.
Anymore that's?

Speaker 4 (31:03):
Fair are?

Speaker 3 (31:04):
You if IF i asked you to whisper the name
into my, ear like Sweet nothings of the greatest musician
in the, world would you lean in and, Say Taylor? Swift, No,
matt probably. Not no, Offense, swifties no Offense swiftiest all,
right no.

Speaker 6 (31:18):
OFFENSE i don't sign, like But i'm thirty. ONE i don't.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
Know so you think The Taylor swift is the most
talented musician in the history of the world or is
she the most marketable and really good at what she
does in a way that just people flock to it
because she has more star power and it just it
makes people gravitate to it like this happens every. Generation
do we really think that the Actual rose was the
greatest singer of his generation or was there just this

(31:41):
it factor to guns Of?

Speaker 4 (31:42):
Roses he it felt like you had to stand there and.

Speaker 3 (31:44):
Watch do we really feel Like Pearl jam Or nirvana
were the most talented people that had ever stood on
a stage in their, life or do we feel like
maybe they were just the right personalities with the right marketing,
thing with the right it. Thing that connected connection is
what we flocked. To people connected To tiger and his fiery,
personality not just his, greatness but the other. THING i
am the audience that matters, here Because i'm the person

(32:07):
that would stop and be, like, Oh tiger's and playing the.

Speaker 4 (32:09):
Masters let's just see what this looks. Like because Like.

Speaker 3 (32:12):
Tiger was a, phenomenon there is a point Of Scottie
scheffler where you can be the greatest in the world
and not be a. Phenomenon great, example there is a
subway video that has gone out for years of one
of the greatest classical violinists in, History Joshua, bell standing
in a subway In New york with this case out
playing and the next night he was playing a sold
Out Cardegie, hall like you couldn't get a ticket To Cardegie,

(32:33):
Hall and he was standing in the subway playing and
everybody walked by him and nobody gave him a dollar.

Speaker 4 (32:37):
Because they're, like, ah subway. Trash.

Speaker 6 (32:39):
Look.

Speaker 3 (32:40):
Look most talented classical violinists in the, world according to
some and nobody can Trash like, Like i'm just being,
Honest like this is what as a society we reflect to,
Phenomenons like it's the reason REALITY tv.

Speaker 4 (32:54):
Exists we we we flock to phenomenons of the. World
but that won't make.

Speaker 5 (32:59):
It lighting to Me wild On, EARTH i care about,
That like what? What what is what people are going
to flock? To like Love? Island, OKAY i understand it's very.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
Popularity if you're gonna be the face of a of a,
sport if you're gonna be the face of a, league
you got to be a.

Speaker 4 (33:12):
Phenomenon you can't.

Speaker 5 (33:13):
You great a phenomenon. Fits he is a golf. Phenomenon
he is the closest thing To Tiger. Woods It's Tiger
maybe he never ends up Being Tiger, woods but that
doesn't make him any less of a golfing.

Speaker 3 (33:25):
Phenomenon he's the best vanilla ice cream you've ever.

Speaker 4 (33:29):
Had he's still vanilla ice. Cream like at the end
of the, day you're still walking.

Speaker 7 (33:34):
In.

Speaker 5 (33:34):
NASHVILLE i take some vanilla ice cream and if it
can golf, too then, Great like what DO i care
If i'm IF i want vanilla ice cream in that
moment and that vanilla ice cream is the best vanilla
ice cream anywhere in the. World at what it is
that it's about to, happen or what it is the
experience of.

Speaker 6 (33:49):
That vanilla ice cream is about to.

Speaker 5 (33:51):
Be you, know be, DAMNED i don't care if, anything you,
know he came a chocolate. Chip you keep your you
keep your strawberry, shortcake whatever the hell else you're. Eating
i'm here for the vanilla ice cream because it slaps.

Speaker 4 (34:03):
You, know damn.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
Well if you walked in right now to an ice cream,
shop you walked into the fanciest ice cream shop because
you are bougie and you're not going to the regular.
One you go to a fancy ice cream.

Speaker 4 (34:15):
Okay you go to the gelato.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
Shop you walk in and the person behind the counter
that scooping the gelato, says we have the best vanilla
you've ever had in your. Life but right next to
it was this wild exotic flavor that you'd never tried.

Speaker 4 (34:28):
Before you know damn, well.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
That you'd be, like, well that and that blood orange
chocolate chip over, There i've never seen anything like. That
i'm gonna try. That you would go for the exotic.
Flare you AND i you can lie to the. World
you can't lie to. Me. Brother you AND i both
know you would go for the exotic flavor of ice
cream because at some point we want. Exotic Scotty scheffler
just ain't, Exotic like the average person is not going
to give a damn about the best vanilla ice cream
they've ever.

Speaker 5 (34:49):
Had if he's not, exotic then why did it get
me all hot and bothered while he was Whispering Scotti
scheffler and Whoop Scotti.

Speaker 6 (34:56):
CHEFFER i think scott.

Speaker 4 (35:00):
Really thank.

Speaker 6 (35:00):
GOD i, MEAN.

Speaker 3 (35:05):
I never would have thought Whispering Scottie scheffler would Make
Buck risings no no place to say, yes, Yes but that's.

Speaker 6 (35:10):
Where we are.

Speaker 3 (35:12):
Today the best vanilla ice cream in the world still
isn't going to get people to flock in from the.
Streets i'm just, Saying i'm Just i'm just calling them
LIKE i. See i'll give you an example in another.
Sport all, right He's Buck. Rising I'm Jason. Fitz when
we come, Back i'll give you another example right now
that we are seeing every single day of somebody that
isn't the. Best but because they're such a, phenomenon there's

(35:33):
still a conversation piece every single.

Speaker 4 (35:35):
Day we'll talk about.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
It, next It's Bucking fits taking Over cavino And rich
The Scotti.

Speaker 7 (35:39):
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Speaker 3 (35:50):
App the line between greatness and importance is difficult to
figure out because you can be the greatest in the
world at something and it doesn't mean that the world's
gonna flock to.

Speaker 4 (36:04):
You you have to have it.

Speaker 3 (36:06):
Factor and what do you do if the greatest may
not have that is being great alone enough to make
everybody pay.

Speaker 4 (36:13):
Attention He's Buck.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
Rising I'm jason fitz so A Bucking fits takeover On
cavino And.

Speaker 4 (36:17):
Rich obviously love the. Guys by the, way.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
For anyone that doesn't, Know i've been friends With cavino
And rich for almost a, decade so any time THAT
i can hang out in their time slot is an incredible.
THING i thank the guys for letting us sit in
here BECAUSE i know it's a, unique unique, audience Right
cavino And, rich everybody that's listening that's followed them from
spot to spot to spot over the, years LIKE i
know your love the. Guy SO i appreciate you guys

(36:41):
Giving buck AND i a little bit of. Time here's the, Thing, buck,
is are we not, living, eating. BREATHING a great example
of great marketing can make a bigger sensation than simply being.
Great and the answer to this for me is quite
Simply Angel. Reese LIKE i, mean if we're talking about great,
marketing like if we're talking about, importance there are certainly
plenty of questions about where the greatness Of Angel reese.

(37:04):
Lies i'm saying that nicely Because angel ree supporters will
tell you that all the things she does in the
game make her. Great Angel reese detractors will tell you
look at her try and finish at the, rim and
you know that she's not. Great Right, Like so wherever
you fall on that, debate it doesn't really, matter Because
i've gone to a couple of W nba games this,
year and every TIME i go to the, games you,
know you see Everywhere Angel reach. Jerseys you see them

(37:27):
all over the, place like she's people have flocked to pay,
attention good or bad To Angel.

Speaker 4 (37:32):
Reese and, like at some point you got to look
at that.

Speaker 3 (37:34):
And, say, hey she's certainly not the greatest but she
is a great talking point and you need. Those it
JUST i continue to look at it and, say that
is a great example of attention being paid to something
that has nothing to do with simple greatness and everything
to do with do people find you polarizing or do
people like talking about?

Speaker 4 (37:53):
You that matters as much as.

Speaker 5 (37:54):
Anything, well, no it doesn't matter as much as, everything
because the thing that you argue against is that the
greatness doesn't live up to the, marketing and that would
indicate that the, performance which you, know is suspect in
certain areas of her. Game And i'm not going to
pretend to know everything About Angel. Reese I'm i'm not
a DIEHARD wnba. Watcher WOULDN'T i wouldn't come out here

(38:16):
with strong opinions About Angel reese with with such a
small sample, size or just seeing a handful of highlights
or low lights on social, media because people do like
to do that to. Her but everything THAT i know
about the statistics Of Angel reese is that that does
not match the level of interest in the. Player but
because she is, interesting that allows people in the attention

(38:38):
economy to gravitate towards. You you're talking about two different
things and conflating them as one is if you have
to have one to have the. Other you don't have
to have great skills to be able to get people's.
Attention you don't have to get people's attention to be
excellent at what you.

Speaker 6 (38:55):
Do coming off.

Speaker 5 (38:56):
The conversation that we just had About Scotti, Scheffler Scotti
scheffler does the thing that he is supposed to do
as at the highest level right. Now he's the best
golfer in the world right now for my. MONEY i
don't know that you could argue the point that anybody
else would be Pushing Scottie scheffler in his specific. Arena
and If Angel reese is taking advantage of all the

(39:17):
different things that she has and doing it. Organically by the,
way BECAUSE i don't think like to, me the interest
In Angel reese is not inauthentic because she's not. Inauthentic
she doesn't strike. Me she doesn't strike me as somebody
who's putting on a. Show so that authenticity also drives
interest in her even if she's not the best player

(39:38):
in the, world because people will gravitate that towards. That
people will also have strong opinions against. It you can
do both. Things if you get the right combination of the,
two that, excellent you vault yourself into a different level
of star power than.

Speaker 6 (39:51):
Anybody that we've talked about yet.

Speaker 5 (39:53):
Today but the level of importance of the attention, ECONOMY i, MEAN,
fitzi there are people on social media with millions and
milli millions of followers That i've never heard. Of i'm
still trying to figure. Out and maybe this is me
getting up there in age at thirty. TWO i turned
thirty two. Yesterday i'm LITERALLY i can see the grays
in my beard, happening all. Right the idea of that
this guy That Sports center keeps posting On instagram Like

(40:15):
i'm one hundred years, Old Like i'm supposed to know
who the Hell speed? Is all these different things that
this internet sensation Guy speed.

Speaker 6 (40:22):
DOES i don't know who the who the hell is.
HE i look at His instagram.

Speaker 5 (40:24):
Profile he's got forty five million, followers AND i don't
know who the hell the guy. Is so you can
be as famous now as you could ever be without
a good portion of the population having any idea of
who you are or what it is that you.

Speaker 3 (40:37):
Do one hundred, percent and if you're going to be
the face of. Something it's more important that people pay
attention to, you then you'd be. GREAT i JUST i
don't believe at my core what you said. Earlier DID
i disagree with? THIS i don't think simply being the
best in the world at something truly.

Speaker 4 (40:54):
MATTERS i, mean we see. Again i'll go back to
the music.

Speaker 3 (40:57):
Side how many TikTok people are wildly famous on TikTok
AND i watched their videos And i'm, like, wow this
person kind of, sucks but like nobody cares they're famous on.
TikTok like it's just you see these people that are
like they're, Fine they're. OKAY i see it all the
time on the music, SIDE i SEE i see violinists
all the time That i'm watching, thinking, ah this person's.

Speaker 4 (41:18):
Okay but my, god you look at the.

Speaker 3 (41:20):
Number of followers they have and you're, like you're doing
something better than anybody. Else, like, look you might not
be better than, this you might not win an actual.
Competition greatest, example, rip but even all the way back
in the, Day Charlie daniels was a great man to,
me And charlie was. Incredible every TIME i had the
opportunity to interact With Charlie. Danks, Fine Charlie daniels would

(41:40):
it is a fine would flat out admit that he
was a terrible fiddle, Player like he.

Speaker 4 (41:45):
Would admit that to, Anybody but nobody. Cared devil went
out To. Georgia was a.

Speaker 3 (41:49):
Sensation so when people walk up to people that play
the violin and they're, like oh, man you're almost as
good As Charlie, daniels they mean it as a, compliment
but it's an insult Because charlie was not a great fiddle,
player like he would have admitted.

Speaker 4 (41:59):
That at some.

Speaker 3 (42:00):
Point it's not about being, great it's about being a great.
Sensation and there are times Like tiger where the two things,
collide they come together and you become a. Phenomenon BUT
i genuinely believe in the modern, climate it is more
important that you be marketable than it is that you be,
great because the marketability at some point will be the
thing that feeds. Everybody scheffler is, great ain't, Marketable so

(42:20):
golf's just going to continue to die with, him all, RIGHT,
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The World's Most Dangerous Morning Show, The Breakfast Club, With DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, And Charlamagne Tha God!

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