June 11, 2024 • 25 mins
Jomboy gives his reaction to The Athletic's poll of MLB players that includes topics such as who is the most overrated player, who is the best player, which team has the worst reputation, and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Today on Jimmy's Three Things, I'm gonna look at the
MLB player poll some fun results there. We're gonna look
at one tool players they only have one of the
five tools, and then a third thing that I have
to find. We'll find it. Thanks for tuning in. Jimmy's
Three Things is a production of John Boy Media, Dan
Patrick Productions and Workhouse Media. Thank you for joining. Subscribe
(00:23):
If you enjoy quick pause pause over here we go.
I'm coming to you live from the T twenty Men's
World Cup on Long Island, NASA County Cricket Stadium, pop
up Stadium. So if the audio is bad, maybe I'll
have I'll have them insert a picture of the setup
right now. We got the camera in some cups with
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paper towels in them on top of an empty sandwich container.
So if the audio is bad, I apologize, but let's
get right into it. Oh and also tomorrow, Team USA
plays against Team India, top of the table. Top two
teams advance from each pool. USA, Hey two and zero. Unbelievable.
I'll be on the pregame show and the show for
(01:07):
the USA India match on Wednesday, June twelfth. If you
want to go and there might be tickets available if
you live in Long Island. On Long Island, shut Up.
MLB Player Bowl twenty twenty four Worst Organizations, the most overrated,
Peer best, Peer Best, Vibes Guy, and more coming to
you from the Athletic MLB staff. I'm just gonna breeze
through some of these, and just to let you know,
(01:27):
there's seven hundred and fifty to like eight hundred active
MLB players. You got twenty six man rosters twenty six
times thirty. You guys can all do that math. They
did an interview or get everyone's answers. The first question
a positive question that people should want to answer, Who
is the best baseball player? One hundred and two people
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answered that one. Only one hundred and two people answered it,
and forty six percent of that so like sixty people
of the one hundred and two said show hey, So
that's nice. Ronald mccunya Junior gets the rest of the votes.
Maybe that's from people that aren't in the West and
haven't played. O'tani a lot. Uh, you got an East guy.
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Mookie Betts gets eight percent. Aaron Judge Trout gets three
point two. That's nice. Uh. Players who received one vote,
Bryce Harper, Gunner Henderson, Jose Ramirez, Adley Rushman, Corey Seeger,
Zach Wheeler. Zach Wheeler got a vote best player in Baseball?
Thanks Aaron Nola. That was nice of you voting for
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your teammate. Where do you go Wheels? One vote? I
don't think you can slip up either. I think you
gotta type it out. So that's cool, good for Otani
and like not a shock. People will want to answer that.
Then anonymously they said, there's no comparison. Everyone has a camp,
he's got no comp and then the very next quote
gives him a direct comp Babe Ruth. So that's cool,
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all right, who is the most overrated player? And you
can see we go from one hundred votes to fifty nine,
So people don't like answering this. But of those fifty
nine votes, twenty percent. What's twenty percent of fifty nine?
Ryan Stack guy, Ryan on to my side. How many
actual players said jazz chisholm eleven? Eleven players said jazz chism.
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Either those are all teammates or zero teammates. But that
podcast where he said he hates his teammates and doesn't
hang out with them was bizarre. This also is he
was on MB the show. He was on the cover
of the show when he didn't deserve to be. Rumor
is Jeter just said, hey, do it, and they did
it for Jeter. I think that's what that comes down to. Rendon.
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I think that's low hanging fruit. Carlos Correa, he's outspoken,
he hasn't been for a while. Tim Anderson was outspoken.
Donaldson voted for him. Jack Flaherty maybe catching some flak
for that weird players Union stuff, because who's overrating Flaherty
right now? I mean he's good. I don't know. Alonzo Bellinger, Bragman,
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Elie de la Cruz, Machado, Snell weird. So what's three
point three percent of fifty nine? Is that one person? No,
it's got to be two people because then they say
other people that get one vote, So it's around two
people voted for Alonzo, Bellinger, Bragman, day La Cruz, Machado,
and Snell Man. If I'm like those guys, I go
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hunt those people out. Fuck the two of you hate me. Uh?
Was there any quotes about this? No? This used to
be Derek Jeter used to get this all the time.
It used to be like good players, and you could
spin it as he's good, but he's not that good.
Harper used to get this sometimes je Chisholm isn't like
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I was surprised to see his name because usually it's
guys that are like they can say he's really good,
don't get me wrong, but he's a little overrated. He's
not the best ever Jehism. No one even says he's
he's really good. Really, he's just an average player. Uh
so it seems like he has got eleven haters. Okay,
next question, putting aside their stats and going solely on vibes,
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Who do you most want on your team? So? Who
cares about this? I don't think I care about this.
Vibes guys like Jami Jones right now is the best
vibes guys on the Yankees. In a landslide, he's awesome.
Everyone hits a home run and they want to go
see Jami Jones. He didn't get a single vote. Who
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cares about vibes guys? I mean, obviously you want vibes vibes,
but you can't put stats solely at stats aside and
go solely on vibes. Mookie Betts, though, and that's fine
because you know what, they're not putting stats aside. It's
Mookie betts O todi Akunya Harper, Judge. No one puts
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stats aside. Is there a name on here where they
put stats aside? Willia Domis, he's pretty good. Vibes are
unbelievable with William Domas. We've been around him in his
orbit in spring training a couple of times, and when
we went to Milwaukee couple years ago, absolutely great vibes.
Garrett Steps Okay, vibes rude at odor. Now that's an answer.
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He got one vote. Now that's an answer. You look.
Joey Wendall. Yes, those are the guys where they'd put
stats aside. Otherwise they didn't. It's a lie. Someone an
honestly said on Garrett Cole never met him, but I've
been a fan for a long time. Okay, Okay, Freddy Freeman,
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he's clutch, he's consistent, day in day out. Those ain't vibes, buddy,
that's stats. You misunderstood the assignment. Someone said on Glass Now,
great vibes, great energy, brings his personality with him. Yeah,
he does have good vibes. Go watch any episode, Go
watch any episode of when he's on Rose Rotation Glass.
Now for how tall and attractive and talented he is
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skill wise, it's bullshit. How good of a personality has
He's supposed to be a dud of a personality. He's
just awesome. Liam Hendricks, Energy on the Mount is contaged.
I should tax Hendricks. We talk about crickets sometimes, and
Energy on the Mount is contagious. I agree. I agree
on Glaber Torres. I think he is pretty viby. Glaber
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got to vote. That's Sodo. They're like best friends. Now.
That was nice of Sodo to vote for Glaber's new friend.
All right, Next question was evaluate this statement. Anthony Rendon
was right, the season is too long, and we got
ninety eight votes. What's sixty eight percent of ninety eight
gonna have that number for you? It's kind of nice
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to have someone with a calculator sitting next to me.
Sixty six players lied and acted as if this was
an anonymous I've never met a baseball player in my
life that thinks the season isn't too long. It's one
hundred and sixty two games in one hundred in eighty days,
and they fly all the time and travel so they
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are so right to say this is a bit long, guys,
now that everyone makes the playoffs. So we got a
bunch of liars here, and then thirty one percent of
people that answered, we're honest. The season's crazy long. Whether
you like it or not, it's too long, like it's yeah,
it's too long, but I love it, or it's way
too long. One hundred and sixty games in one hundred
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and eighty five days, that's what Rendon said. Especially with
everyone making the playoffs, they'll never shorten it because they'll
lose a lot of money. But maybe the maybe the
broadcast regional rights going belly up, maybe that helps them.
I don't even think they're interested in it because of
concession stands, but I would say if you could get
it down to like one forty eight f two whatever
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gives you, and then have one day a week where like, hey,
every Monday, the NL is not gonna have games, and
every third Thursday the AL is not gonna have games,
and then the crowd just knows it is my break.
There's gonna be a game every Friday, Saturday, Sunday. I'm
not gonna take away the weekends. Then there's gonna be
a game every Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. If you're the al
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thursdays you have off. I think the players would love that.
I think the uh, the audience would would at least
understand it because you it'd be baked into their rhythm.
It wouldn't be confusing. It's like every Thursday, no game, Great,
that's our off day. Uh. And then and then you
can still have like one hundred and fifty something games
or whatever the math is on that. That's what I
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would propose, but I'm not being asked to propose anything.
Is that all the questions? Okay? Next question? Which team
would you sign with if contracts, state taxes, and rosters
were not a factor. The Braves got twelve percent of
the vote, and again only eighty six votes, So it's
twelve percent of eighty six. Are we talking about like
eight guys? Because I can't take this seriously, ten guys.
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I wish more people answered this these questions. These answers
are eight guys. No, ten guys said the Braves. Then
nine percent said the Red Sox, So that's like eight guys.
The Braves have a huge, huge, uh region of people
who watch Braves games like their network is the entire South.
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So if people are like, they're my hometown team, if
those are some of the reasons, you would get it. Also,
the Braves treat their young players pretty well, give them
contracts well. Now they give them contracts. They used to not,
but they treat their players well. They give them long
term contracts and say, hey, we want you to be
here and be here for the long haul and be
part of it. Like. It's a very much a winning
culture and system. So I get that Red Sox nine
point eight percent. That's cool. Good for the Red Sox,
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Yankees only six point nine, Rangers eight point one, Interesting,
Mets two point three percent, Twins two point three, Giants
two point three, Raise two point three. I mean, that's
what you would expec to be the bottom teams. No
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one wants to go to those teams. People used to
want to go to the Giants that first. And I
don't know what. For some reason, they don't Twins tough.
I think I think people just didn't think of the Twins.
Uh on the Braves one quote, just because I was
a Braves fan growing up. Another, I would sign with
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the Braves knowing what I know. If I didn't know,
I would probably try and play one year for the
Red Sox or the Yankees, just to do it. What
is that I would sign with the Braves knowing what
I know? What do you know? If I didn't know,
I would probably try and play one year for the
Red Sox or Yankees. What's this grand secret pulling him
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to the Braves that he didn't that he had to
be what? What does he know? That's weird everything knowing
what I I know. If I didn't know, people don't
know Padres. They said San Diego is a beautiful place
to play. Okay, that's cool. What organizations have bad reputations
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among players? Seventy nine respondents forty percent Oakland a's or
is this percent? This isn't percent? This is just answers.
Why didn't they do that for all the other polls?
Or are they give them percentages? No math needed? Forty
guys said Oakland. Nineteen guys said the White Sox, fourteen
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said the Angels, ten said the Rockies what you would expect?
Eight said the Mets. I don't know. The Mets fans
don't act like this is real. Sometimes they're like Sodo's
gonna come. It's like no one wants to come. It
seems like the players know no one wants to come.
Royals too, bummer. That's sad. Should be a baseball town.
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I should want to play for the Royals. What are
some quotes here? On the White Sox, I've never heard
a good thing. Uh oh, this quote, it's not good
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over there. You can tell by how often there's turnover
that it usually means something's going on. Players leaving the
organization automatically doing petter jeezuh. On the Rays, when it
comes time to pay players, they usually trade them. That's true.
They get rid of you once you get expensive. Nice.
They're not player friendly, correct, I'll get injured. Not quoted,
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but thought. Wow. On the Angels, i've heard they treat
their minor leaguers like crap. I didn't hear that. I
didn't know that about them. I didn't know that. General
dysfunction On the Angels. This guy said, been there, done that,
and I've never heard a good thing about them. Tough
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on the Rockies. I think it's better now, but when
I was there, it was horseshit. Uh. On the Yankees,
no one wants to play for them. A bunch of rules.
Jazz Chisholm wrote I made that up. It wasn't him.
It's anonymous. What was the most irritating criticism of current
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and don't care about the Should MLB shut down mid
seasons or players can participate in the twenty twenty eighth
Summer Olympics in Los Angeles? Fifty three percent said no.
Of the ninety pole, forty six said yes. Here's here's
how this pans out. If you're not going to be
on the Olympic team, you're probably saying no, or you're
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saying yes because you get a vacation, and the people
that are on the Olympic team, some of them are yes.
I'm gonna be like, nah, I want the vacation all right. Ummm,
have analytics helped your career? Hurt your career? Dumb question?
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That's like a question by someone who's just pining for analytics.
Obviously it's helped careers. Have you ever seen or heard
of a player being put on the injured list when
they weren't injured enough to merit it? Duh? Was the
Dodgers offseason spending good for the game? How do you
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think they answered this one? Is it good that are
that our players and my colleagues are getting crazy amounts
of money, and that raises the price that I'm gonna
get as well. Said good? Who said no? And what
do they those who said no? I want to say good,
but not good dude. That is not helpful. I don't
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think it is. I just think the other teams should
be able to spend like that. I feel like the
Dodgs are always a team that can get all the
best players in the world. Other teams, some of them
can spend like that. Takes money to make money, you know,
all that shit. This guy says, we'll have a documentary
about that the next year. Is But the deferred money
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I don't agree with. I think they should have to
pay right now while he's playing. I just think it's
a loophole. It's not even their money or Freedman's money
or the owners right now that is true, Like they
can sell the team and someone would just have to
acquire that debt. And they never paid Otani, which I
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think is what people expect them to do. That is
a cool way to think about it. You're just paying
someone with someone else's money. Just get a loan down
the line. Okay, I like that answer. They're all opposed
to salary cap. Yeah, all right, I think that's good
fun article. Second topic, This guy, his name is Champagne
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of Beers Bears, Champagne of Bears. He is a New
York Yankees fan. He put together this stat pack that
was one hit one tool players. So the five tools,
they only are good at one of them and they're
below average at the other four. Very interesting topic that
I had never really thought of that I like. So
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he for average for the hit tool, he did expecting
expected batting average, not just batting average. And then for
power hitting he did expected slugging. No, he used the
ratio of expected slugging to expected batting average. Maybe I'll
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link this and you guys can read it. Then for
running he did sprint speed. For throwing he did arm strength,
And for fielding he did fielding run value, which is
a stat that under saying this also oh out it's
above average, would eliminate catchers. So he did fielding run value.
He took the two hundred and sixteen players who qualify
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for all five metrics, plus the ten qualified hitters who
have played less than twenty five innings in the field,
so DHS and SHIT then assigned a percentile rank for
each player, and then one tool players were those with
only one metric in the top fifty percent, in the
other four were in the bottom fifteen. I thought this
was kidny, pretty interesting. I like this so great job
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by the Champagne of Bears, and you have Luisa Rise
as the best one tool player. When you're chasing hitting
for average, he's in the ninety eight percent tile hitting
for average, His hitting for power doesn't even it's like
one percent. Running he's at like twenty five, and then
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throwing end fielding he's down below. So yeah, I guess
the hit tool is good. You're not gonna get big bucks,
which is why he's been traded around and stuff. Nolan
Gorman ranks out for the best power one tool power
hitting guy. Now, his hit for average is thirty five percent,
so it's not like a Rise where he was ninety
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eight and then zero. He's ninety eight percent power, thirty
five percent batting average. Not fast at running, which is
fine because he hits the ball so far, and then
the throwing in the fielding aren't great. Evan Carter's got
I think the toughest one because he's his one hit
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tool is running ninety seven percent his average is really bad,
ten percenter contact, his power is just under forty percent,
and then with all that speed, you'd want him to
be better in the out of the fields. His arm's
not that strong, that's a bummer, and his fielding is
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below average, but he's they're close. Oh you know what
I lied. Connor Joe has the worst. Sorry, Connor Joe.
I'm a big fan of Connor Joe, so I hate
the data right now. It's like paining for me to
read it. But his one tool is throwing. I think
that's the that's the one tool that matters least. Right.
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Johnny Damon almost collected three thousand hits and played the
outfield and quite literally had a pool noodle for an arm,
So you can play a long time and not have
any arm, even at crucial outfield positions, especially if you
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can run him down. So I think that's the worst
of the five, and right now, the others aren't that great,
and he's living in a thirty percent for running and
fielding not great. Nicky Lopez has fielding, So like good defense,
you can be that can get you, You can get
jobs that way. You could be a defensive outfielder. Come
in be the fourth outfielder. If you can go play
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center field track shit down, that's gonna be fun. There
is one reply here where he names the five people
that are five tool players, and you got Wit Henderson,
Marsh Tatis, Nimmo, what do you go, Nimo, Kowser, Chapman,
Bla Day, and akunya Uh. But someone said a Tigers
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fan said, JJ Bleda is more like a five tool
meh player, So more like JJ meh Day. I added
the second part that was an interesting little thing on Reddit,
thanks to this Champagne of Bears for sending that this way.
And the third thing I have it's a little simple,
but someone on Reddit, let me see if I can
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bring up this. His name is Admirable Variety fifty eight.
He said he's been a longtime follower of the channels.
He watched the Three Things episode where I was trying
to figure out if Logan Web got more calls off
the plate than other pitchers because of his pitch, like
which pitcher in the league get just like confuses humps
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the most on this side of the plate or that side.
And then he put a script together and ran all
the data and he said, look at this, look at
this He's basically said the smartest guy live. Jimmy O'Brien said,
your intuitions about Logan web are spot on me. That's
what Admirable very Variety fifty eight said. And when he
sent this message out eleven thirty nine pm, he said,
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your intuitions about logan up spot on. He's had ninety
three extra called strikes on the left side of the
zone since the beginning of twenty twenty three, leading the league.
On the right side, it's been lanceln and Jack Flaherty.
How about that, so cutters, sweepers, I'd love to dive
into this morgue. A bunch of mascots walking around me.
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How you doing good to see it? Wow? Wow, okay,
waving to me. Mascots. We got a picture of them
so people can see who just walked by and saidie
to me, very flirty. First wave by the first one
second one with the crooked bat in the hands, lagging,
slower moving mascots. They look like that movie about the
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cartoon about the It's about Koreans and Dominicans, I think
in the Bronx, but instead they're water and fire. That cartoon.
It's a good movie. I'll watch it when they're son.
That's what the mascots will remind me of here. Anyway,
it's got to be late movement, right like Logan Web
is so deceptive. I said some games, if hit them
gives it to him. He's just gonna kill you on
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the outside. And I guess Lancelon Jack Flier are killing
that guys on the other side. Late movement. It wraps
around the zone. I'm guessing something like that he does.
He did give me videos of all the all of
the data sets, so like, here's that's wuch one example
of Flaherty. Here we go. So one O pitch falls
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in there. It looks kind of good to me, but
I guess they're saying that's a ball off. I like
that pitch. Okay, I think that's Jimmy's three things. It's
a shorter episode today, but that's only because the national
anthems just ended. In this match between Canada and Pakistan
(24:30):
is about to start and I'm one of the commentators
that sits in the booth and does the commentating. So
it'd be a bad look if I wasn't prepared for
that and ready, So so now you know the reason
why this episode's a bit shorter than the others. I
came to you live from the Nassau County Cricket Stadium
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here on Long Island, where I am part of the
broadcast booth for the TEA twenty Men's Cricket World Cup,
where USA is currently leader of the pack with India
both too and oh a clash of titans tomorrow on
Long Island. Who will be the victor if the USA
(25:15):
is in the game with India yet alone, if they
win the game versus India, it'll be a bummer because
I actually think that Americans will just shrug and be like, yeah, dah,
we're fucking good. Obviously we're good. They won't even understand
that it's like the most biggest The context of it
is unbelievable. All right, See you guys, subscribe to the channel.
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Thank you, goodbye.
Today on Jimmy's Three Things, I'm gonna look at the
MLB player poll some fun results there. We're gonna look
at one tool players they only have one of the
five tools, and then a third thing that I have
to find. We'll find it. Thanks for tuning in. Jimmy's
Three Things is a production of John Boy Media, Dan
Patrick Productions and Workhouse Media. Thank you for joining. Subscribe
(00:23):
If you enjoy quick pause pause over here we go.
I'm coming to you live from the T twenty Men's
World Cup on Long Island, NASA County Cricket Stadium, pop
up Stadium. So if the audio is bad, maybe I'll
have I'll have them insert a picture of the setup
right now. We got the camera in some cups with
(00:45):
paper towels in them on top of an empty sandwich container.
So if the audio is bad, I apologize, but let's
get right into it. Oh and also tomorrow, Team USA
plays against Team India, top of the table. Top two
teams advance from each pool. USA, Hey two and zero. Unbelievable.
I'll be on the pregame show and the show for
(01:07):
the USA India match on Wednesday, June twelfth. If you
want to go and there might be tickets available if
you live in Long Island. On Long Island, shut Up.
MLB Player Bowl twenty twenty four Worst Organizations, the most overrated,
Peer best, Peer Best, Vibes Guy, and more coming to
you from the Athletic MLB staff. I'm just gonna breeze
through some of these, and just to let you know,
(01:27):
there's seven hundred and fifty to like eight hundred active
MLB players. You got twenty six man rosters twenty six
times thirty. You guys can all do that math. They
did an interview or get everyone's answers. The first question
a positive question that people should want to answer, Who
is the best baseball player? One hundred and two people
(01:50):
answered that one. Only one hundred and two people answered it,
and forty six percent of that so like sixty people
of the one hundred and two said show hey, So
that's nice. Ronald mccunya Junior gets the rest of the votes.
Maybe that's from people that aren't in the West and
haven't played. O'tani a lot. Uh, you got an East guy.
(02:11):
Mookie Betts gets eight percent. Aaron Judge Trout gets three
point two. That's nice. Uh. Players who received one vote,
Bryce Harper, Gunner Henderson, Jose Ramirez, Adley Rushman, Corey Seeger,
Zach Wheeler. Zach Wheeler got a vote best player in Baseball?
Thanks Aaron Nola. That was nice of you voting for
(02:33):
your teammate. Where do you go Wheels? One vote? I
don't think you can slip up either. I think you
gotta type it out. So that's cool, good for Otani
and like not a shock. People will want to answer that.
Then anonymously they said, there's no comparison. Everyone has a camp,
he's got no comp and then the very next quote
gives him a direct comp Babe Ruth. So that's cool,
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all right, who is the most overrated player? And you
can see we go from one hundred votes to fifty nine,
So people don't like answering this. But of those fifty
nine votes, twenty percent. What's twenty percent of fifty nine?
Ryan Stack guy, Ryan on to my side. How many
actual players said jazz chisholm eleven? Eleven players said jazz chism.
(03:19):
Either those are all teammates or zero teammates. But that
podcast where he said he hates his teammates and doesn't
hang out with them was bizarre. This also is he
was on MB the show. He was on the cover
of the show when he didn't deserve to be. Rumor
is Jeter just said, hey, do it, and they did
it for Jeter. I think that's what that comes down to. Rendon.
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I think that's low hanging fruit. Carlos Correa, he's outspoken,
he hasn't been for a while. Tim Anderson was outspoken.
Donaldson voted for him. Jack Flaherty maybe catching some flak
for that weird players Union stuff, because who's overrating Flaherty
right now? I mean he's good. I don't know. Alonzo Bellinger, Bragman,
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Elie de la Cruz, Machado, Snell weird. So what's three
point three percent of fifty nine? Is that one person? No,
it's got to be two people because then they say
other people that get one vote, So it's around two
people voted for Alonzo, Bellinger, Bragman, day La Cruz, Machado,
and Snell Man. If I'm like those guys, I go
(04:25):
hunt those people out. Fuck the two of you hate me. Uh?
Was there any quotes about this? No? This used to
be Derek Jeter used to get this all the time.
It used to be like good players, and you could
spin it as he's good, but he's not that good.
Harper used to get this sometimes je Chisholm isn't like
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I was surprised to see his name because usually it's
guys that are like they can say he's really good,
don't get me wrong, but he's a little overrated. He's
not the best ever Jehism. No one even says he's
he's really good. Really, he's just an average player. Uh
so it seems like he has got eleven haters. Okay,
next question, putting aside their stats and going solely on vibes,
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Who do you most want on your team? So? Who
cares about this? I don't think I care about this.
Vibes guys like Jami Jones right now is the best
vibes guys on the Yankees. In a landslide, he's awesome.
Everyone hits a home run and they want to go
see Jami Jones. He didn't get a single vote. Who
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cares about vibes guys? I mean, obviously you want vibes vibes,
but you can't put stats solely at stats aside and
go solely on vibes. Mookie Betts, though, and that's fine
because you know what, they're not putting stats aside. It's
Mookie betts O todi Akunya Harper, Judge. No one puts
(05:55):
stats aside. Is there a name on here where they
put stats aside? Willia Domis, he's pretty good. Vibes are
unbelievable with William Domas. We've been around him in his
orbit in spring training a couple of times, and when
we went to Milwaukee couple years ago, absolutely great vibes.
Garrett Steps Okay, vibes rude at odor. Now that's an answer.
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He got one vote. Now that's an answer. You look.
Joey Wendall. Yes, those are the guys where they'd put
stats aside. Otherwise they didn't. It's a lie. Someone an
honestly said on Garrett Cole never met him, but I've
been a fan for a long time. Okay, Okay, Freddy Freeman,
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he's clutch, he's consistent, day in day out. Those ain't vibes, buddy,
that's stats. You misunderstood the assignment. Someone said on Glass Now,
great vibes, great energy, brings his personality with him. Yeah,
he does have good vibes. Go watch any episode, Go
watch any episode of when he's on Rose Rotation Glass.
Now for how tall and attractive and talented he is
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skill wise, it's bullshit. How good of a personality has
He's supposed to be a dud of a personality. He's
just awesome. Liam Hendricks, Energy on the Mount is contaged.
I should tax Hendricks. We talk about crickets sometimes, and
Energy on the Mount is contagious. I agree. I agree
on Glaber Torres. I think he is pretty viby. Glaber
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got to vote. That's Sodo. They're like best friends. Now.
That was nice of Sodo to vote for Glaber's new friend.
All right, Next question was evaluate this statement. Anthony Rendon
was right, the season is too long, and we got
ninety eight votes. What's sixty eight percent of ninety eight
gonna have that number for you? It's kind of nice
(07:44):
to have someone with a calculator sitting next to me.
Sixty six players lied and acted as if this was
an anonymous I've never met a baseball player in my
life that thinks the season isn't too long. It's one
hundred and sixty two games in one hundred in eighty days,
and they fly all the time and travel so they
(08:07):
are so right to say this is a bit long, guys,
now that everyone makes the playoffs. So we got a
bunch of liars here, and then thirty one percent of
people that answered, we're honest. The season's crazy long. Whether
you like it or not, it's too long, like it's yeah,
it's too long, but I love it, or it's way
too long. One hundred and sixty games in one hundred
(08:28):
and eighty five days, that's what Rendon said. Especially with
everyone making the playoffs, they'll never shorten it because they'll
lose a lot of money. But maybe the maybe the
broadcast regional rights going belly up, maybe that helps them.
I don't even think they're interested in it because of
concession stands, but I would say if you could get
it down to like one forty eight f two whatever
(08:52):
gives you, and then have one day a week where like, hey,
every Monday, the NL is not gonna have games, and
every third Thursday the AL is not gonna have games,
and then the crowd just knows it is my break.
There's gonna be a game every Friday, Saturday, Sunday. I'm
not gonna take away the weekends. Then there's gonna be
a game every Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. If you're the al
(09:14):
thursdays you have off. I think the players would love that.
I think the uh, the audience would would at least
understand it because you it'd be baked into their rhythm.
It wouldn't be confusing. It's like every Thursday, no game, Great,
that's our off day. Uh. And then and then you
can still have like one hundred and fifty something games
or whatever the math is on that. That's what I
(09:36):
would propose, but I'm not being asked to propose anything.
Is that all the questions? Okay? Next question? Which team
would you sign with if contracts, state taxes, and rosters
were not a factor. The Braves got twelve percent of
the vote, and again only eighty six votes, So it's
twelve percent of eighty six. Are we talking about like
eight guys? Because I can't take this seriously, ten guys.
(10:00):
I wish more people answered this these questions. These answers
are eight guys. No, ten guys said the Braves. Then
nine percent said the Red Sox, So that's like eight guys.
The Braves have a huge, huge, uh region of people
who watch Braves games like their network is the entire South.
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So if people are like, they're my hometown team, if
those are some of the reasons, you would get it. Also,
the Braves treat their young players pretty well, give them
contracts well. Now they give them contracts. They used to not,
but they treat their players well. They give them long
term contracts and say, hey, we want you to be
here and be here for the long haul and be
part of it. Like. It's a very much a winning
culture and system. So I get that Red Sox nine
point eight percent. That's cool. Good for the Red Sox,
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Yankees only six point nine, Rangers eight point one, Interesting,
Mets two point three percent, Twins two point three, Giants
two point three, Raise two point three. I mean, that's
what you would expec to be the bottom teams. No
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one wants to go to those teams. People used to
want to go to the Giants that first. And I
don't know what. For some reason, they don't Twins tough.
I think I think people just didn't think of the Twins.
Uh on the Braves one quote, just because I was
a Braves fan growing up. Another, I would sign with
(11:26):
the Braves knowing what I know. If I didn't know,
I would probably try and play one year for the
Red Sox or the Yankees, just to do it. What
is that I would sign with the Braves knowing what
I know? What do you know? If I didn't know,
I would probably try and play one year for the
Red Sox or Yankees. What's this grand secret pulling him
(11:48):
to the Braves that he didn't that he had to
be what? What does he know? That's weird everything knowing
what I I know. If I didn't know, people don't
know Padres. They said San Diego is a beautiful place
to play. Okay, that's cool. What organizations have bad reputations
(12:14):
among players? Seventy nine respondents forty percent Oakland a's or
is this percent? This isn't percent? This is just answers.
Why didn't they do that for all the other polls?
Or are they give them percentages? No math needed? Forty
guys said Oakland. Nineteen guys said the White Sox, fourteen
(12:35):
said the Angels, ten said the Rockies what you would expect?
Eight said the Mets. I don't know. The Mets fans
don't act like this is real. Sometimes they're like Sodo's
gonna come. It's like no one wants to come. It
seems like the players know no one wants to come.
Royals too, bummer. That's sad. Should be a baseball town.
(12:57):
I should want to play for the Royals. What are
some quotes here? On the White Sox, I've never heard
a good thing. Uh oh, this quote, it's not good
(13:19):
over there. You can tell by how often there's turnover
that it usually means something's going on. Players leaving the
organization automatically doing petter jeezuh. On the Rays, when it
comes time to pay players, they usually trade them. That's true.
They get rid of you once you get expensive. Nice.
They're not player friendly, correct, I'll get injured. Not quoted,
(13:44):
but thought. Wow. On the Angels, i've heard they treat
their minor leaguers like crap. I didn't hear that. I
didn't know that about them. I didn't know that. General
dysfunction On the Angels. This guy said, been there, done that,
and I've never heard a good thing about them. Tough
(14:08):
on the Rockies. I think it's better now, but when
I was there, it was horseshit. Uh. On the Yankees,
no one wants to play for them. A bunch of rules.
Jazz Chisholm wrote I made that up. It wasn't him.
It's anonymous. What was the most irritating criticism of current
(14:32):
and don't care about the Should MLB shut down mid
seasons or players can participate in the twenty twenty eighth
Summer Olympics in Los Angeles? Fifty three percent said no.
Of the ninety pole, forty six said yes. Here's here's
how this pans out. If you're not going to be
on the Olympic team, you're probably saying no, or you're
(14:54):
saying yes because you get a vacation, and the people
that are on the Olympic team, some of them are yes.
I'm gonna be like, nah, I want the vacation all right. Ummm,
have analytics helped your career? Hurt your career? Dumb question?
(15:17):
That's like a question by someone who's just pining for analytics.
Obviously it's helped careers. Have you ever seen or heard
of a player being put on the injured list when
they weren't injured enough to merit it? Duh? Was the
Dodgers offseason spending good for the game? How do you
(15:37):
think they answered this one? Is it good that are
that our players and my colleagues are getting crazy amounts
of money, and that raises the price that I'm gonna
get as well. Said good? Who said no? And what
do they those who said no? I want to say good,
but not good dude. That is not helpful. I don't
(15:58):
think it is. I just think the other teams should
be able to spend like that. I feel like the
Dodgs are always a team that can get all the
best players in the world. Other teams, some of them
can spend like that. Takes money to make money, you know,
all that shit. This guy says, we'll have a documentary
about that the next year. Is But the deferred money
(16:19):
I don't agree with. I think they should have to
pay right now while he's playing. I just think it's
a loophole. It's not even their money or Freedman's money
or the owners right now that is true, Like they
can sell the team and someone would just have to
acquire that debt. And they never paid Otani, which I
(16:40):
think is what people expect them to do. That is
a cool way to think about it. You're just paying
someone with someone else's money. Just get a loan down
the line. Okay, I like that answer. They're all opposed
to salary cap. Yeah, all right, I think that's good
fun article. Second topic, This guy, his name is Champagne
(17:04):
of Beers Bears, Champagne of Bears. He is a New
York Yankees fan. He put together this stat pack that
was one hit one tool players. So the five tools,
they only are good at one of them and they're
below average at the other four. Very interesting topic that
I had never really thought of that I like. So
(17:27):
he for average for the hit tool, he did expecting
expected batting average, not just batting average. And then for
power hitting he did expected slugging. No, he used the
ratio of expected slugging to expected batting average. Maybe I'll
(17:48):
link this and you guys can read it. Then for
running he did sprint speed. For throwing he did arm strength,
And for fielding he did fielding run value, which is
a stat that under saying this also oh out it's
above average, would eliminate catchers. So he did fielding run value.
He took the two hundred and sixteen players who qualify
(18:10):
for all five metrics, plus the ten qualified hitters who
have played less than twenty five innings in the field,
so DHS and SHIT then assigned a percentile rank for
each player, and then one tool players were those with
only one metric in the top fifty percent, in the
other four were in the bottom fifteen. I thought this
was kidny, pretty interesting. I like this so great job
(18:33):
by the Champagne of Bears, and you have Luisa Rise
as the best one tool player. When you're chasing hitting
for average, he's in the ninety eight percent tile hitting
for average, His hitting for power doesn't even it's like
one percent. Running he's at like twenty five, and then
(18:56):
throwing end fielding he's down below. So yeah, I guess
the hit tool is good. You're not gonna get big bucks,
which is why he's been traded around and stuff. Nolan
Gorman ranks out for the best power one tool power
hitting guy. Now, his hit for average is thirty five percent,
so it's not like a Rise where he was ninety
(19:18):
eight and then zero. He's ninety eight percent power, thirty
five percent batting average. Not fast at running, which is
fine because he hits the ball so far, and then
the throwing in the fielding aren't great. Evan Carter's got
I think the toughest one because he's his one hit
(19:39):
tool is running ninety seven percent his average is really bad,
ten percenter contact, his power is just under forty percent,
and then with all that speed, you'd want him to
be better in the out of the fields. His arm's
not that strong, that's a bummer, and his fielding is
(20:01):
below average, but he's they're close. Oh you know what
I lied. Connor Joe has the worst. Sorry, Connor Joe.
I'm a big fan of Connor Joe, so I hate
the data right now. It's like paining for me to
read it. But his one tool is throwing. I think
that's the that's the one tool that matters least. Right.
(20:25):
Johnny Damon almost collected three thousand hits and played the
outfield and quite literally had a pool noodle for an arm,
So you can play a long time and not have
any arm, even at crucial outfield positions, especially if you
(20:46):
can run him down. So I think that's the worst
of the five, and right now, the others aren't that great,
and he's living in a thirty percent for running and
fielding not great. Nicky Lopez has fielding, So like good defense,
you can be that can get you, You can get
jobs that way. You could be a defensive outfielder. Come
in be the fourth outfielder. If you can go play
(21:07):
center field track shit down, that's gonna be fun. There
is one reply here where he names the five people
that are five tool players, and you got Wit Henderson,
Marsh Tatis, Nimmo, what do you go, Nimo, Kowser, Chapman,
Bla Day, and akunya Uh. But someone said a Tigers
(21:29):
fan said, JJ Bleda is more like a five tool
meh player, So more like JJ meh Day. I added
the second part that was an interesting little thing on Reddit,
thanks to this Champagne of Bears for sending that this way.
And the third thing I have it's a little simple,
but someone on Reddit, let me see if I can
(21:52):
bring up this. His name is Admirable Variety fifty eight.
He said he's been a longtime follower of the channels.
He watched the Three Things episode where I was trying
to figure out if Logan Web got more calls off
the plate than other pitchers because of his pitch, like
which pitcher in the league get just like confuses humps
(22:15):
the most on this side of the plate or that side.
And then he put a script together and ran all
the data and he said, look at this, look at
this He's basically said the smartest guy live. Jimmy O'Brien said,
your intuitions about Logan web are spot on me. That's
what Admirable very Variety fifty eight said. And when he
sent this message out eleven thirty nine pm, he said,
(22:36):
your intuitions about logan up spot on. He's had ninety
three extra called strikes on the left side of the
zone since the beginning of twenty twenty three, leading the league.
On the right side, it's been lanceln and Jack Flaherty.
How about that, so cutters, sweepers, I'd love to dive
into this morgue. A bunch of mascots walking around me.
(22:57):
How you doing good to see it? Wow? Wow, okay,
waving to me. Mascots. We got a picture of them
so people can see who just walked by and saidie
to me, very flirty. First wave by the first one
second one with the crooked bat in the hands, lagging,
slower moving mascots. They look like that movie about the
(23:20):
cartoon about the It's about Koreans and Dominicans, I think
in the Bronx, but instead they're water and fire. That cartoon.
It's a good movie. I'll watch it when they're son.
That's what the mascots will remind me of here. Anyway,
it's got to be late movement, right like Logan Web
is so deceptive. I said some games, if hit them
gives it to him. He's just gonna kill you on
(23:41):
the outside. And I guess Lancelon Jack Flier are killing
that guys on the other side. Late movement. It wraps
around the zone. I'm guessing something like that he does.
He did give me videos of all the all of
the data sets, so like, here's that's wuch one example
of Flaherty. Here we go. So one O pitch falls
(24:09):
in there. It looks kind of good to me, but
I guess they're saying that's a ball off. I like
that pitch. Okay, I think that's Jimmy's three things. It's
a shorter episode today, but that's only because the national
anthems just ended. In this match between Canada and Pakistan
(24:30):
is about to start and I'm one of the commentators
that sits in the booth and does the commentating. So
it'd be a bad look if I wasn't prepared for
that and ready, So so now you know the reason
why this episode's a bit shorter than the others. I
came to you live from the Nassau County Cricket Stadium
(24:51):
here on Long Island, where I am part of the
broadcast booth for the TEA twenty Men's Cricket World Cup,
where USA is currently leader of the pack with India
both too and oh a clash of titans tomorrow on
Long Island. Who will be the victor if the USA
(25:15):
is in the game with India yet alone, if they
win the game versus India, it'll be a bummer because
I actually think that Americans will just shrug and be like, yeah, dah,
we're fucking good. Obviously we're good. They won't even understand
that it's like the most biggest The context of it
is unbelievable. All right, See you guys, subscribe to the channel.
(25:37):
Thank you, goodbye.
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