December 4, 2023 • 49 mins
On today's Dan Patrick Show, DP reacts to the Final Four teams to make the College Football Playoff, Rick Neuheisel joins the show to explain why Michigan is least likely to win a national championship,and DP wonders if Jordan Love has proven he's the QB of the future in Green Bay.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio. I hope you had a great weekend. Everybody, Wow,
there was a lot that happened. We'll try to dissect
that over the next three hours. Come on in, stay awhile.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Gang's all here, including Fritzie, played the day poll question
stat of the Day, all of that coming up. Can't
wait to get to Vegas because when it comes to
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Vegas and the spectacle the celebration woven into their fabric.
It's not just celebrating, it's celebrating with an edge. And
(00:35):
we'll be there during Super Bowl week eight, seven to
seven to three DP. Show operator Tyler standing by just
to say hell, oh, take your phone calls as we
always do every Monday, best and worst of the weekend.
Say good morning watching on Peacock. Thank you for downloading
the app. Well, you had an interesting game last night
at Lambeau. The Green Bay Packers are back. Jordan Love
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might be the future for the Green Bay Packers and
the Kansas City Chiefs. Hmmm, things that make you go hmm.
Eagles against the forty nine Ers. I did wonder Wow,
there were two point spreads where I went Oregon double
digit favored against Washington, didn't see it, Niners favored on
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the road against Philadelphia. Should us saw it? Saw it
really quick. But that was one of those moments where
you go, I'm watching the Philadelphia game and I'm thinking,
just don't get too beat up, because you got the
Cowboys that's next week. That might be as important as
a Dallas game has had in a long long time.
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And here's Philadelphia getting beat up. I mean physically, mentally,
they got roughed up, and now you got Dallas, and
I just kept thinking, First of all, they had players
who were still in the game, like Jalen Hurts. I'm
thinking two minutes ago, what are we doing here? Get
him out? Swift got roughed up, get him out, live
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to see another day. But that one kind of surprised
me just how methodical San Francisco was. And I know
we love to talk about brock perty MVP. I know
Christian McCaffery is scoring touchdowns at a record setting pace.
The person who makes the Niners go is Deebo Samuel.
(02:26):
He was healthy and you got a healthy dose of
Deebo Samuel. That was impressive. So they rough up the Eagles,
Packers hold off the Chiefs, Dolphins, role Texans hanging in there,
Lions held on the Colts and minshewe mania. You know
where I stand with Gardner Minshew. I think he's a
(02:48):
really good backup quarterback. But he's playing really good football
for the Colts. I know maybe they're not beating really
good teams, but they're winning and that's all you need
to do. Just ask the Steeler, Hey, can you beat
the Cardinals at home? What are you doing all the
weather interruptions? Well, it interrupted Arizona two. That's one of
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those games where he went that shocked me. And then
guess who they have coming up Thursday night? The dangerous
New England Patriots. Oh no, yeah, Thursday Nights Football. How
grumpy is Al Michael's going to be on Thursday Night? Yes?
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Well should they give Al out of respect the night off?
Because I think it's going to be if Kenny Pickett on.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Why don't they give us the night off? How about
we just don't show that game. I think it's Trubisky
versus Bailey Zeppie. Yeah, oh, they're not going to be
on the promo though. It has to be Tomlin and
Belichick has to be by the way, or maybe TJ.
Watt throw him in there and Bill Belichick. Whoever it
is for the Steelers, it'll be Bill Belichick. Bill Belichick
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didn't have a good press conference yesterday after they were
shut out at home by the Chargers.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
What do you identify as maybe some of the missteps
you know that have contributed to the offense not producing
this season.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
I just I just answered that question, Mike.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
I guess I'm trying to figure out.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
I'm trying to Lisa. In the season review, we're talking
about the game. Games just over happy to talk about
the game. I don't know if he was happy to
talk about that game happy. Yeah, Hey, I'm happy to
talk about it. No, No, I'm required to talk about him.
Bengals at the Jags. The Jags now they're favored by ten.
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You need a nice, clean, crisp, dominating performance here. You
need you need to put up, you know, some pretty
good numbers just so you stay in that picture there
in the AFC. Then you have the College Football Weekend
and the committee puts Michigan, Washington, Texas, Alabama, in Florida
State and Georgia are out. Let's go back to Friday
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watching the PAC twelve title game. Washington looks wonderful. Oregon's
coming back. Then Washington answers with a couple of late
drives and they stay undefeated. That might be the best
conference this year PAC twelve. There's at least an argument
with how good the PAC twelve was this year. So
Washington's going to be in no matter what. They beat
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Oregon twice, they're going to be in. There's your undefeated team,
Texas Texas Saturday afternoon standalone game. You're favored by at
least two touchdowns against Oklahoma State. You need to put
up some big numbers, and they did. They looked unbelievable
and as a source said to me, they might be
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the fastest team in America. That's an exciting, dynamic team.
And so they're in. And then you had Alabama and
Georgia standalone game and you're watching and figuring whoever wins
is going to be in? And I kept thinking, is
Georgia not going to be in the playoffs. George has
been number one almost the entire season, they had won
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twenty nine games, back to back champs, and they lose
on a neutral site by three with two of their
best receivers banged up in that game, Maconkee and Bowers,
and they're not going to be in the playoffs. And
then you have Florida State standalone game, third string quarterback
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and it's less than enthusiastic sixteen to six win against Louisville,
and I could see it. You know that, you know
you had Florida State trying to generate some offense because
if you put up some style points, let's say you
put up twenty four to twenty eight points, you might
be in the playoffs. Because it comes back to what
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I've said to you many many times the last couple
of years. This is a TV show. They don't want
to blow out like they had last year with TCU. Right,
you got to get style points. Texas got style points
right in front of us. We saw it, like wow,
they are and they beat Alabama earlier this year. Florida State,
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you have a legitimate beef, but you're not one of
the top four teams in America right now. If Vegas
gave you odds, Florida State would be an underdog to everybody.
They'd be an underdog probably to Ohio State. They'd be
an underdog to a few teams that didn't even make
it into the playoffs. You don't have your quarterback. He's
a wonderful quarterback. If you had somebody like Jamis Winston,
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then there'd be a must see. I mean it's sort
of like you tune in to watch Friends and Jennifer
Aniston isn't there. You're like, okay, it's not the same.
I got Ross, I don't have Rachel Well. Florida State
doesn't have their quarterback. Alabama is a draw. Nick Saban
commercials success him in the playoffs. Harbaugh, I don't think
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Michigan's a great team. I mean they beat an overrated
Penn State team. They held on to beat Ohio State.
If you look at the teams they play in the
Big Ten, those teams are terrible. I mean they're not
I mean they're terrible. Now, they did win. I don't
know how good Michigan is. You know, it wasn't pretty
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against Iowa. I mean, you did win. I was not good.
Good defense, maybe a good punter, but that's about it.
So you're trying to handicap this and then you know
who gets in and then the seating and it's me
conspiracy theory, But Michigan's number one, and I think that
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maybe the committee goes, yeah, Michigan got in, had the
little signs stealing thing. How about we put Alabama there
at number four. Just a conspiracy theory on my part,
no inside information on that. But the committee wants to
put together a great weekend, a great matchup with both
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of these games, and that's what you have. Michigan, Alabama's wonderful,
Texas in Washington offensive fire that's spectacular. I get to
be fun. Florida State would not have been a draw.
They're not interesting, really good defensive front. Played great against Louisville.
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By the way, Louisville, come on, what are you doing?
You want to step up? Step up? You had your
opportunity there, but Florida State outside looking in and now
it's Florida State against Georgia. Georgia would be favored against
everybody probably, I mean, Georgia has a legitimate beef. But
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you got to take somebody out. This is like when
we always go have March Madness. Well, that team should
be in Who you're taking out? Oh, I don't know,
but that team should be in Georgia. Okay, who are
you taking out Texas. I can't do that to Texas.
I mean, it was just a bad timing. Award goes
to Alabama or goes to Georgia, and then here's Florida State.
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You're not getting respect because you're in the ACC. You've
been trying to get out of the ACC. I mean,
this is now. I know next year it'll be different
because then you'd be in the playoffs and then the debate,
the controversy is going to be about seating. Who's going
to get a first round by home field advantage. I mean,
that's really what the big issue is going to be.
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But it does change next year when we have twelve teams.
By the way, there was something that came out over
the weekend with Greg Sank, the SEC Commissioner, and he
brought to light what I told you a while ago,
and that was that the Playoff Committee was trying to
do a twelve team playoff in twenty twenty three, trying
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to They wanted to do it before twenty twenty five.
You had TV contracts and the meetings that went on.
They were creating this Bowl Alliance. While all these schools
are jumping different conferences, they're Bowl Alliance. They were trying
to do a twelve team playoff. Now, initially I misspoke
and said it was going to be twenty twenty two,
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and then we went to a commercial break, my source
said it's twenty twenty three, and then I corrected that
that they were trying to do that. And I heard
from the college football world that you know, I was
wrong and they can't break contracts, And I said, I
know that they have contracts. My friend John Skipper, who
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was my boss at ESPN, helped negotiate those contracts, so
I was aware of the contracts. But they did try
to do this because the money that was involved. We
get caught up in pomp and circumstance and the pageantry
of the bowl games. The reality is what just happened
this weekend. Yeah, you did what you're supposed to do.
And that's nice. Bo Oh, that's a cute little story.
(11:56):
Bu it's putting together for teams matchups because you want
this is all about money. I know, student athlete did
the right thing, coach did the right thing, everybody did
the right thing. Fairness all that. It's about money. That's
what this has always been about. That's why they tried
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to do it in twenty twenty three, even though they
had TV contracts till twenty twenty five. They tried. Now
they did move it up, breaking these Oh my gosh,
you can't break those contracts. They did that, so that's
why we have the playoffs coming up. But Greg Sanke,
who was not my source on this, by the way,
but I did tell you I trusted my source, went
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up the flagpole and when he told me about what
was going on, and then I brought it to your attention.
So whatever it means, and maybe it doesn't mean anything,
Maybe it's just me try to take a victory lap
here because I got rouffed up. I got rouffed up
by the college football insiders who said, you know, stick
to you know what you know, or let us handle
(13:01):
this stuff. And there are a few of you guys
out there. But I wasn't here to mislead anybody. I
wasn't doing a hot take. I was giving you what
was a great source. And that's what we do on
the show. It's like when the Big Ten said they
were shutting down football, college insiders came after me. What happened?
Speaker 5 (13:20):
What?
Speaker 2 (13:21):
In an opinion, it was fact Big Ten shut down
football during covid I said Pac twelve is going to
shut down football because of their alliance with a Big ten.
Came after me on that one. I do this for
my audience, my reputations on everything that we bring up
on this show. If there's a report, it's my reputation.
If it's an opinion, it's just me. But when I
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have a report, and hopefully I have it nailed down,
and Greg Sanki brought that up that they did try
to do this in twenty twenty three. So my little
victory lap here, thank you for allowing me to take it.
Speaker 6 (13:54):
Yes, it is funny because some of the people who
called you out most ferocious yea currently have pinned to
the top of their Twitter accounts. Hey could you imagine
if there was a playoff this year? Turns out that
was almost possible. Interesting, Yeah, you should scroll back a
couple of years in your timeline there, dude.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Yeah, Yeah, they came after me, and I'm like, look,
I know what I'm doing. I spent forty years to
build up a reputation. Yeah, Paulin.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
What I found really naive about the reporting around that
altogether was there was a reporting that said there's a
contract there's no way could be broken. If all parties
on a contract agreed to break a contract and rewrite
a contract so they could start something a year early
and make a whole bunch more money a year earlier.
That's how contracts could get broken. All parties on a
contract agree. This didn't happen. Stanky walked us through it
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the other night, thou there are some people who didn't
break it. It took sixteen months to negotiate.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
It was on the table, it was discussed, and that's
what I told you.
Speaker 7 (14:53):
It's like a.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Lottery ticket and everyone in the room says, we're going
to pick it up next year. But then everyone in
the room says, no, we'll pick it up six months away.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
And I thought, if you're that naive to go, they
won't break a contract to make millions and millions and
millions and millions more. You know, everybody breaks contract. It
happens all the time every day. And why oh, college football,
they wouldn't. They wouldn't break contract. It's based on breaking contracts.
(15:21):
Look at the PAC twelve, Big twelve sec Come on.
So I was thank you, Greg Sanky. You didn't know
that you made my weekend When I went it. Yes, Yes,
I sent a text to the DAN and it's like, oh, then.
Speaker 6 (15:36):
Occasion at the text at like three in the morning,
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
What an occasion. I thought you were in the hospital
or something. No, I just sent like a screen grab
of Sankey what he said there?
Speaker 4 (15:49):
Yes, Marty, so that is your best of the weekend.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Yes, it was. Yes, it was that one. That one
felt really good because I thought I can never out
my source. I can never damn would you please say
it publicly? And then Greg Sanky did it and I went, yeah,
thank you, Greg, Thank you gre somebody Todd reach out
to Greg Sanky and just tell him thank you. Yeah,
(16:12):
I just say thanks. We don't need him on just
thank you. All right, let me take a break, just
getting started. First of all, this TV contracts at place,
it'll never know, you can't do it. What about the bulls?
What about the bulls?
Speaker 4 (16:23):
I go, oh my god.
Speaker 6 (16:24):
I've been in every meeting about this discussion. They've never
brought them.
Speaker 7 (16:27):
I know.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Well that's because there were meetings that nobody was allowed in.
Speaker 6 (16:32):
That they were hold on a second, you mean major
powerful people don't discuss every option directly in front of
the media, for the first time.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Wait a minute, are we sure about that? Ye?
Speaker 4 (16:41):
Are we sure?
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yeah? Okay, and we come back. We'll come up with
a our pole question options here. Rick Neuheisel, he was
part of the SEC broadcast on CBS over the weekend.
He was there in Atlanta. Rick will join us. We'll
get his thoughts on what he thinks should have happened
and did happen and how this all plays out. We'll
(17:03):
have that for you coming up. Well, take a break,
we're back after this, just getting started. Dan and the
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Speaker 2 (17:50):
We'll talk to the former college coach Rick Neuheisel. Always
love his perspective. He was working for CBS covering the
SEC title game. He'll join us. Coming up here a
moment uh Alan Atlanta, Al, welcome back. How's morale?
Speaker 5 (18:05):
Good morning, Dan? Thanks taking my call. Best and worst
of the weekend. Best of the weekend watching all of
those Philadelphia Eagles fans just sit there stewing in that loss.
As an Atlanta sports fan, you always love watching fairy
fans just angry at life. Worse of the weekend, all
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the whole lads crying about Florida State not getting in.
Who did they play? They play in the ACC. They're
the little brother of the Power five conferences. Like talk
to me when you play some real teams. Okay, you
beat Florida and LSU whooped to do not that big
of a deal.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Well, Lshu is good. LSU's gonna have the Heisman Trophy winner, right, LSU.
I mean I don't think you can go man, Florida.
I mean Florida's been pedestrian. LSU gonna have the Heisman
Trophy winner, so I do have to factor that in.
I mean, I can look at Michigan's schedule here, overrated
(19:05):
Penn State team, they held on to beat Ohio State
at home, and you know the teams that they play,
they're some of the worst offenses in all of college
football in the Big Ten. So I mean we can
sit here and nitpick and go, oh, this, this team
and this conference, and at the end of the day,
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they want to have great football matchups. That's what they
want to have, and they did. They did their job.
These are great football matchups here. Yes, Florida State did.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Play teams like North Alabama and they always played a
couple of cupcakes, but they played LSU and Florida. Michigan
started the season hosting East Carolina, hosting UNLV, a good
team but not power team, hosting Bowling Green, and hosting Rutgers.
That was their September. That's not tough for Michigan.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Yeah, there's a lot of teams in the Big Ten
that aren't any good. They're not certainly offensively, they're not terrible.
Brian in Wisconsin, Hi, Brian good morning, good morning.
Speaker 9 (20:13):
Hey, So let's get real about this retirement nonsense.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
So this is like equating you till I kiss for
the rolling stone.
Speaker 9 (20:20):
This is gonna go out for like thirty years.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
No, it's not December twenty fourth, twenty twenty seven, guaranteed,
that's it.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
They're going to call a taxidermis and just put you
in a corner.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Well, that that's possible, but I'm not going to be
alive to know that. So if it's weekend at Bernie's
and they prop me up here, then that'll be on
the dan Etes.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Yes, Paulin, all right, I guarantee you have to give
up something. If you're on the air past your due
date or whatever your retirement date, you're punishment, not punishment.
But we have to come up with a guarantee.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Do you want me to I'm up with a guarantee.
We'll figure out because that might mean that it's all
ending on December twenty four, twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 6 (21:06):
By the way, I can't think of a way to
make sure it doesn't happen more than to be like,
if you go past your here's your punishment, okay, and
I won't go past there.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
If you guys. Well, okay, what's the punishment? Do you
guys want to come up with the punishment?
Speaker 3 (21:20):
How about you have to do four more years, not
one more year, like you don't do extended one.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
No, I you know it's run its course for me
in America. You know, in four more years it'll be
it'll be time, you know, time to move. I've I've
left my Mark. I think it'll it'll be time.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
Yes, Mark, do we stay on the payroll at twenty
twenty eight?
Speaker 2 (21:43):
No? No, Oh, that's a guarantee. That is that's guaranteed. Okay,
car is a guarantee. Garan damn t No. I've enjoyed it.
But there's other things I want to do. Maybe there's
a podcast or something. Maybe there's things that I continue
to do. But the every day. Let Nick Wright come
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in and pick up my scraps or something like that,
you know, Ross Tucker. Let him come in and take over.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
Move to Milford.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Maybe I got a man cave here, nothing going on.
Let me get to Rick new Heisel, the former coach,
and he was working for CBS SEC Title Gang and
kind enough to join us. Rick, when you went to
bed Saturday night, what did you think was going to
happen with the committee on Sunday, I thought.
Speaker 10 (22:37):
Exactly what transpired would transpire. I had it right. I
said it on the end of our broadcast at the
SEC game that I envisioned Louisville winning the game because
the third string quarterback would play for Florida State. Congratulations
Florida State's defense for playing so brilliantly. But I did
think that the SEC's champion would find a way in,
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and by means that Alabama was in that role, they'd
bring Texas with him.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Why did Florida State get left out?
Speaker 10 (23:09):
First of all, it's crushing for all of us who coach,
knowing what Mike Norbel is going through. I saw his
face as he got the news on that screen, and
it was, I mean devastating. Can only imagine, because what
else do you do other than win all your games?
But it's there's the SEC and the Big Ten. I
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think Washington Dan should be the number one team. I mean,
Washington's in the better conference this year. The Pac twelve
is a better conference. They beat Oregon twice, Michigan has
the Ohio State victory, who's already jettison their quarterback. I
mean Michigan's victories. Iowa was one hundred and thirty third
in offense, Michigan State was one hundred and twenty eight
in offense. Minnesota was one hundred and twenty fifth, Rutgers
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was one hundred and twenty third, Nebraska was one hundred
and eighteen, Indiana was one hundred and first. East Carolina
was one hundred and thirtieth. In bowling, Green was one
hundred and fifth. That's their schedule and they had one
point nine yards per carry against Iowa, less than five
yards an attempt against Iowa, Michigan, Washington should be won.
(24:15):
And so here's my point. My point is the Big
ten and the SEC are always going to get in
because they moved the needle. Television wise, it's nothing that's
it's discussed.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
In the meeting room.
Speaker 10 (24:28):
I don't think anybody sits there. Well, these two are in,
but they're in. They have to be in because they
can take their ball and go home. I was with
Larry Scott when the college football playoff was discussed, and
it was adamant amongst many of the commissioners that the
four teams had to all be conference champions. Mike'slive said no,
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and he was going to say, I'm not in if
we don't do it this way, and he wielded that
kind of back. And I don't say it because he's bad.
He had that kind of influence and he was taking
care of his conference. So Michigan as the Big ten champ,
has to be where they are, and Alabama is the
SEC champ, has to be in, and by virtue of
Texas's victory over Alabama, they're in as well. I would
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tell you if Georgia would have won that game, it
would have been Texas out. Florida State would have been in.
I truly believe that.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Okay, does Georgia have a gripe of not being in
the final four.
Speaker 10 (25:24):
Sure, But there's just no room at the end this time.
I mean, they can't get in over Alabama, and they
can't get in because Texas beat Alabama. There is no room. Yeah,
and this is just one of those weird years where
we've got so many really really talented teams at the top.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
I wonder maybe it's conspiracy theory that the playoff committee goes, yeah, Michigan,
you're in signs dealing scandal. Your reward is you get Alabama.
Speaker 10 (25:55):
Maybe, So maybe so because again I thought that Michigan
should have been behind Washington. Now the only thing, the
only metric that they can say Washington's behind Michigan is,
you know, game control. Michigan pounded lesser opponents, and I
just went through that resume list. By the way, have
(26:17):
you ever heard of a team going into a game
where they're over under the first half point?
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Tattle is one half.
Speaker 10 (26:27):
The new fight song at Illino at Iowa is how
low can you go? The limbo song? It's incredible. But
I do believe that the team that would surprise me
most winning at all would be Michigan.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Why.
Speaker 10 (26:45):
I think Alabama because they're the least explosive team of
all of them. The other three teams have the ability
to put up points and make big plays. I don't
know that Michigan has that same kind of skill.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
We're talking to Rick new Heisel, former college coach, works
for CBS Sports. Will we ever have this level of
drama in the playoffs?
Speaker 10 (27:03):
Again, I don't know that this level of drama will
exist when we get to twelve thirteen conversation, you know,
because I'll be assuming the champions coming four to five
to six. So I don't know that we'll get to this.
So if there's a way to go out with drama,
as with the exclamation point, this is probably it.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
I think you could go back to when Auburn got screwed,
when we had you know, oh yeah, yeah, when they
went underfeed question. So we hit out question three teams
undefeated and then they got left out, and then that
felt like that kick started. Well, you got to have
four teams in and now we go to twelve, and
how long do we stay at twelve? In your opinion,
(27:49):
great question, It will determine.
Speaker 10 (27:51):
It will be determined by if we consolidate and bring
down Division one to that kind of NFL ask for
eight to sixty four teams. It will be determined by that.
If we go to that, I would say that we'll
eventually be at sixteen.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Who are you voting for for the Heisman?
Speaker 10 (28:12):
Jayden Daniels, He's been sensational. I had thought I had
said that the winner of that Pac twelve matchup if
the quarterbacks are as advertised, and I thought Penis was brilliant.
If he'd have had four touchdown passes rather than one,
just so the numbers for the voters would have been
bigger I think Penix would have had a fight and chance,
but that was a That's been a brilliant run for
Kaylin de Boric watching Washington.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Is there anything more dangerous than Nick Saban in the
playoffs in college? For nothing? No?
Speaker 4 (28:40):
Nothing?
Speaker 10 (28:40):
Yeah, he delivered. You know, I'm from the Church of
Saban and Loujah. You know, he delivered a perfect sermon
on Saturday. I mean, the guy is just sensational. He's sensational.
And the Jalen Millrow story is one for the ages.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
But you know what's interesting, Rick and I mentioned this earlier,
that he was in a spread offense when he was
in high school. He didn't run, right, That's right, and
he's learning. Damn. I'm as fast, if not faster, than
these guys I'm going to And you could almost see
it in his eyes. I'm telling you the stands.
Speaker 10 (29:15):
I'm told that because he's a neophyte, I don't think
much is innate in terms of his instincts for the game.
But he's so uniquely talented. As he continues to evolve,
I'm told that he does not have a option mentality.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
They tell him to give it or to keep it.
Speaker 10 (29:36):
On these particular plays when he evolves and he can
read the defender and he takes it when it's the
appropriate to take it. Katie bar the door. He is
going to be a sensation. I said at the beginning
of the game, I took Alabama, and I said because
Milroe's legs. Now, Milroe's legs weren't a factor in the game.
But you could see what they did to George's pass rush.
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They were sitting there with the spy and they were
letting him back there count the house. Now, they got
to him a few times because somebody would get off
of that block, but ultimately at the end of the
game where they needed first downs, a thirty yard run
and a nine yard run with a difference, that guy
is special.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
If QB Kyle McCord is going to enter the portal
with Ohio State, does that mean they're in the market
outside of Ohio State.
Speaker 10 (30:23):
They are they jettisoned him. That has to be the case. Yes,
you don't leave Ohio State. There's no there's no greener pasture,
especially given the receivers that they have accumulated there that's
been that was a you need to look for someplace else.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
If quinn Ewers returns to Texas.
Speaker 10 (30:42):
You know that one kid that is above the transfer
portal madness won't get swayed by, you know, wanting to
play the musical chairs game. It would be arch Manning.
He won't get involved in all that. So quinn Ewers
I would fully expect to come back and play again
at Texas. Who wouldn't want to be the quarterback on
the forty acres right given all the fancy bells and
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whistles that go with that job. They're in the playoff
for the first time. By the way, congratulations to Sark.
It's the first time he's ever won ten games. It's
the first conference champion he's ever had. So wonderful job
by him. And the fastest team in America Texas. Oh,
it might be the fastest team. And you put those
two beautiful defensive tackles in that in that shiny window.
(31:28):
I'm in New York right now. You know how they
put all those holiday treats in the window? You put
to and Andre Sweat and Byron Murphy and their college
football coaches would be sitting out there longing.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Okay, let me go back to arch Manning. He wants
to play. Yeah, Okay, it's not about ni l. This
is about opportunity. You could go to the USC right now,
You could go to Ohio State right now, many.
Speaker 10 (31:52):
Others with Archie, with Peyton, with Eli and Cooper. Patients
will win the day. I think patients will win the day.
He's different because he can be different.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Good to talk to you, Ben, Thanks for joinning. Always
a pleasure.
Speaker 10 (32:07):
Happy holidays.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
My friend Rick new Heiseel, always good, always enlightens this
and interesting though his thoughts on the playoffs and you know,
once again bringing up the Big Ten schedule for Michigan
and the teams they played. It's just you can make
arguments for a lot of teams here. The committee once
(32:28):
again can decide what they want to do. Nobody's there going, hey,
you can't do that. There's no reporter in the room.
Nobody's holding them accountable from the standpoint of what they
do in real time. They're looking at this and as
much as we don't want to believe it, I didn't
want to believe it until somebody who is in the
process told me these are TV shows. Think of it
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that way. This is primetime TV show, it's a football game,
it's a TV show. We want to make sure people
want to watch. We want to make sure that there's interest.
It's a competitive game. There's not going to be a
blowout that you get that true national championship game. I
mean the fact that TCU got in, like we love
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the underdog story until reality set in and David was
not taken down Goliath. Goliath just stepped on him. Hopefully
you won't have that this year. That will have competitive matchups.
All right, we'll take a break. We'll give you our
best and Worst of the weekend right after this.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
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Speaker 2 (33:39):
Final Hour on this Monday, Dan and the Dan That's
Dan Patrick Show come on in. Stay awhile gangsa here,
including Fritzy. We'll get some more phone calls coming up
as well. We ste every Monday best and Worst of
the weekend. What you saw that you liked you didn't like.
We talked a lot about the college football playoff committee, Michigan, Washington,
Texas and Alabama. We talked about the early point spreads.
(34:02):
Alabama getting one and a half against Michigan, Texas is
giving four and a half with Washington, and according to Draftking,
the odds to win the college football playoffs, it's Michigan,
closely followed by Alabama, then Texas and then Washington football
coming up tonight, the Bengals getting ten on the road
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over under is forty in that game. Good morning. If
you're watching on Peacock, thank you our radio partners, numbering
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Fox Sports Radio. Pole question for that final hour of
the program. Also, I'm going to throw out this possibility.
I don't know if it's legally possible. I don't know
(34:43):
if it's being considered. There is speculation Florida State could
sue to get into the playoffs. Now just speculation. I
don't have any inside information. I haven't heard from anybody
other than just there's sort of a ground swell. Can
you do this? Michigan threatened to do this with getting
(35:04):
Jim Harbaugh to be able to stay on the sidelines
with the team. They quickly dropped that when they realized
that there was some damaging information out there. But does
Florida State have any legal ground to stand on? I'd
love to hear it if I'm a judge. I mean,
I'd put it in front of Judge Judy. I would
have done that with Jim Harbaugh. I just think that
(35:25):
would be awesome. Yeah, what are you here for? Uh? Well,
I didn't do anything wrong. Somebody on my staff did.
Just get to the point. Coach with Florida State. What's
Judge duty going to say? Yeah, but your third string quarterback.
I mean, we can't put you into the PLAYOFMS. Yes,
Dohn more frivolous lawsuits in this country.
Speaker 11 (35:45):
If it's a subjective decision, I don't know how you
could suit for some of that's revolous.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
This is important.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
There's a lot of money at stake, a lot of money.
Speaker 7 (35:53):
It's if it was a machine like we used to have,
and that's where it came out. That's what it is.
Speaker 11 (35:56):
You've got to accept the machine. But this is people's
just decisions. It's a objective thing that everyone agreed to.
Let these people decide.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Yeah, I know it's a flawed system. And then we're
angry that it's a flawed system. We're like, come on,
where's the logic. There's no logic in this.
Speaker 6 (36:11):
It's like you're rooting for chaos all weekend and they're
unhappy about the results. It's like that, No, that the
chaos is the results. That's that's what you were rooting for.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Yeah. Yes.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
A number of Florida senators and congressmen have tweeted out
things are very upset the committee, you know, pandering to
their fan base that they're on there at Florida State.
One of them said he's going to look into it
and circulating a letter condemning Nancy. I don't know if
there's a loss suit pending. Nothing like that has been reported,
but there's some posturing.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
It does feel like pandering.
Speaker 11 (36:41):
Yeahsta, yes, you know how long these things get caught
up in the court system. That means the semifinal games
will be played to like may or something.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Uh No, they'll be They'll be played. They're gonna be
played on time, by the way. Sunday Night, Jalen Hurts
and the Eagles take on Dak Prescott and the Cowboys
NFC showdown on Sunday seven Eastern NBC and Peacock.
Speaker 10 (37:03):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
When's the last time Dallas had a game of this magnitude?
A decade maybe longer. This is huge. They can't afford
to lose this game. I thought they were gonna win
in Philadelphia, probably should have this one. You have to
win this game, must win, and you get Philadelphia coming
(37:28):
off getting banged up and blown out by San Francisco,
and this is that. This is that stretch here where
Dallas is going to tell us a whole lot where
they stand in the NFC, and also where Dak Prescott is,
you know, standing with the MVP. It's all here, Dak Prescott,
(37:48):
you do this, you go three and one in these
four game stretch, you go four to oh, you're probably
gonna win the MVP. And it's about home field advantage.
That's what's so instead of going on the road for
your playoffs, being able to have home fielded this game
is huge for Dallas and Philly too, because you want
(38:09):
to know, you know, San Francisco went through that three
game losing streak and we're like, okay, and then all
of a sudden, what we saw yesterday, It's like, oh, okay,
because that was as impressive. You know, when you think
Philadelphia is the best team in football, San Francisco is favored,
slight favored, and they go in and that that was
(38:31):
embarrassing for Philadelphia and give credit to San Francisco, but
Deebo Samuel, if he's healthy, he's on the field, I
have an advantage that not many teams have. The only
other team that might have a better, bigger advantage would
be the Dolphins with Tyreek Hill when he's on the field.
I don't know if I'm guessing. Somebody asked Ron Rivera,
(38:53):
the commander's coach, why were you in single coverage on
Tyreek Hill? What's trying to trick him? Like reverse psychology? Yeah,
we're not going to cover you. Let's see what you
can do. Now about seventy eight yards?
Speaker 3 (39:08):
Try to tire him out?
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Yeah, how about seventy two yard? Yeah, he's not gonna
be good in the second half because he had these
long touchdowns in the first half, just like in Rocky.
Speaker 6 (39:16):
Okay, just keep taking the body shots that it's gonna
tire him out, all right.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
So there were some impressive wins, the Eagles getting blown out,
Packers hold off the Chiefs. Now. I've been in Jordan
Love's corner since he got the job. I thought they
needed to move on from Aaron Rodgers. I think the
Packers have won the Aaron Rodgers sweepstakes, and I think
Jordan Love is a franchise quarterback. Now, I did hear
(39:42):
from a lot of you who said, how's your franchise
quarterback doing a couple of weeks ago, and you were right.
But it's a learning process. Hasn't played many games. What's
he played ten games in his career? Tough October. But
in the condition given a Sunday night standalone game, he's
(40:03):
had what twelve starts, He's played pretty well.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
Twenty two touchdowns, ten picks, and his percentage is going up.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Yes, he looked the part last night, and I think
green Bay. It sets up green Bay can win and
get into the playoffs. If you pull up their schedule,
they can win the rest of their games. Now, I'm
not saying they are, but if they play the way
they did last night, they are. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
Pulling green Bay is at the Giants host the Buccaneers,
at the Panthers, at the Vikings host the Bears. They
will be favored in every game.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
So they could. They could run the gamut here make
the playoffs. How many wins would that give them? That
give them eleven.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
Where they're right now, they're yeah, that'd be eleven and
six if they ran.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
The table eleven and six, pretty good.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
Detroit's nine to three, but this is more of you know,
wild card.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Yes, well, if I said to you in October, you're
a green Bay fan even at the beginning of the year.
Now I thought they could challenge for the division. I thought, okay,
you lose Rogers, but they haven't been healthy, the youngest
team in Pro football, and I think that, you know,
trying to get everybody healthy. Running back situation hasn't been fluid.
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But I thought that he played pretty well, and like,
that's one of those games. I almost focused on the
Chiefs where I go, hm, you know, slow start, Like
eventually those things catch up to you. Normally that's where
the Chiefs come back and win. And when it was
what twenty one nineteen or I thought, you know, here
(41:42):
we go, Chiefs gonna let the Packers hang in there
and then they're gonna you know, kill them at the end.
The Green Bay played good football and you beat the Chiefs.
I don't care when and where you beat the Chiefs.
And Jordan Love that's a big game for him. It
now starting to feel like Aaron Rodgers won't come back
(42:05):
and play if they're not in the playoff mix. I'm
going to just wait until we get there. I'm just
gonna wait. Yeah, it's all the speculating, all the talk
McAfee conversation. I'm just going wait. You know, if it happens, great,
if it doesn't, okay, yes, don.
Speaker 11 (42:25):
We're gonna see him jogging in place next on the
sideline jumping rope, just to.
Speaker 7 (42:28):
Let us know.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
Hey, I'm getting maybe probably, But I've said that this
was about Aaron Rodgers. I mean, clear to practice, got
a twenty one day window. This about Aaron Rodgers. I
don't think it's about the Jets. I think it's about
Aaron Rodgers because that team is not good. They're not
going to be in the playoff mix. But it felt
(42:50):
like Aaron Rodgers wanted to get back. Approve a point
Pine approval point Yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
Do you think that part of Rogers rationale, especially the
three or four weeks after he got injured, when he said, well,
you know, the end of the season he started dripping
that out there, was to motivate his teammates to stay
playoff eligible, like, I'll do my best to be back.
Speaker 4 (43:09):
You got to do your.
Speaker 3 (43:09):
Best to keep us in the mix for a wild
card spot. Maybe in his mind.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
Yeah, but I don't know if the players go he's gone,
we shouldn't try hard, like.
Speaker 3 (43:20):
I guess, like motivational tool.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
Well, if you needed that that, hey, guys, I'm out,
but uh, you keep playing really hard because I'm going
to come back and save you.
Speaker 5 (43:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (43:28):
See well yeah, but like the idea that motivation isn't
real isn't accurate either, though, you know. I mean, like
when you lose your superstar quarterback that you've built the
whole season around, people get deflated and they don't play
the same. I'm not saying that the offensive lineman don't
try as hard, but they know that the guy who's
back there isn't as good as the other guy.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
But that's when you have to try harder because the
guy is not as good.
Speaker 6 (43:53):
Right, Like in a perfect world, that's the way it
would be, but in reality, that's not how life works.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
Uh. I mean, I don't. I watched the game yesterday.
I don't know why, Like I'm morbidly fascinated with the
Patriots against the Chargers, the Falcons against the Jets, and
you're just going, this is so bad, but I can't,
I can't stop watching it. And then you're going. All right,
there's some glimpses here. But if Rogers comes back, great,
(44:20):
it's content for me. If he doesn't, it's still content.
But I do think this is about Aaron coming back
modern medicine. His way is different than yours, and his
way is the right way. Fine, whatever works for him. Uh.
Luciano in Brooklyn is back with us. Hey, Luciana, morning.
Speaker 9 (44:40):
Couple, Marvin Peace King what I said? And of course
to the good Fella's time Seaton Party.
Speaker 7 (44:48):
It's about.
Speaker 9 (44:51):
Keep poking to be party. I'm gonna get you.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
Luciano doesn't really want an answer. When he said what's up?
Speaker 3 (44:57):
It was more slangish.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
Yes, it's like what's up? But I don't I want
to hear.
Speaker 7 (45:00):
What do you want to know?
Speaker 4 (45:01):
What was up?
Speaker 2 (45:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (45:02):
It's similar, Paul to when people walk in the room
and instead of saying hello, you say what do you got?
Speaker 2 (45:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (45:08):
What do you have?
Speaker 2 (45:09):
I don't know, like seven fifty and a cup of coffee? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (45:13):
Yeah? All right?
Speaker 2 (45:14):
What are you going for me? Luciana? What do you got?
Speaker 9 (45:17):
Copple? So, because I'm very fond of you, I want
you to put on your helmet and buckle your chin
strap for this one, okay, because not only you're about
to settle a very heated barbershop debate, but this debate
has actually plagued America for the last twenty plus years.
So you're gonna go down to the American history. Now
before you do this, I'm serious, Copple.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
Before you know that, I know that, I know that.
Speaker 9 (45:40):
I got to break some balls, all right, So Todd,
I got a pie to the face challenge for you,
all right, And you're gonna think I'm crazy for offering
you this, But that's exactly the point, my young, livelheaded friend.
There's gonna be great content for America because if I win,
America gets to see you take another pie to the kisser.
If you win, I guess let's see lu channel.
Speaker 5 (46:01):
Now.
Speaker 9 (46:01):
I can't recall just how many times I've been called
pretty in my life, but I do know that my
mother thinks I'm handsome, So it's gonna be great for everybody.
Speaker 7 (46:08):
All right, What do we got.
Speaker 9 (46:09):
I say that the Dallas Cowboys will go further into
playoffs than the San Francisco forty nine ers. Do you
accept that challenge?
Speaker 7 (46:17):
You know what, I will accept that challenge.
Speaker 11 (46:19):
Let's have some fun with that okay that I think
the forty nine ers will go further anyway.
Speaker 4 (46:22):
All right, I.
Speaker 9 (46:24):
Knew you would accept that challenge, Kanama red Cap, But
where do you find this guy?
Speaker 5 (46:27):
It's too easy.
Speaker 9 (46:28):
It's like luring a rat out with smelly cheese.
Speaker 2 (46:30):
Uh, Luciano, he's from Brooklyn.
Speaker 7 (46:32):
That's right, fellow Brooklyn guy. Yeah, I love the accent.
Speaker 9 (46:35):
Yeah. So I lured them out with a smelly cheese
and he took it just like I thought he would. Todd,
how can you accept the deal that appears to be
so one sided in your favor, that is to the
detriment of a good front of the show like myself.
Speaker 7 (46:48):
Oh, I see what you're doing there.
Speaker 11 (46:50):
Either way, it's gonna be a lot of fun, but
hopefully you will be on the receiving end of a
pie in the week's end.
Speaker 2 (46:54):
Is that it's talk.
Speaker 9 (46:57):
And I'll take and I'll take it. But I'm just
letting you know you coming off like a certified stupid
gure right now.
Speaker 7 (47:03):
Yeah, let's make sure you send that video of you
with the pie in the face. We need the video.
Speaker 9 (47:08):
I wouldn't be in any hervey to do any climbs
around Todd guys, I'm just letting you know that right now,
all ask copoll sa here you go. You want the
question right now? Or don't have time to break police balls?
Speaker 2 (47:18):
Oh you can break police ball? Sure?
Speaker 9 (47:20):
All right, PAULI. Hey, look, last week you were giving
tourist advice about Chicago. You made a comment about a
bad area capital then, aswers you, Paulie, how do you
know when you're in the bad area? And you, because
you're hyper intelligent, you defer to Marvin King. Marvin being
a nice guy, he's inclined to give the nice guy answer,
not because he's incapable of articulating it properly, but because
(47:42):
this colloquial lexicon it might offend the FCC. So, since
Marvin is always kind enough to translate for me, to
let me translate for him, what he was saying is, first,
there's no such thing as the bad area is called
the hood, or if you want to church it up,
you can call it an economically stressed area. Not to
answer your taple to answer your question right, the way
(48:05):
you know when you're in the economically stressed area is
if you find yourself face to face with someone wearing
a non COVID mask, and they're relieving you of your possessions. Okay,
And Paulie, if you ever want to understand that organic
excitement and fear of being relieved in your possessions comes
to Brooklyn and I can arrange for somebody to give
you totrrio.
Speaker 2 (48:25):
All right, all right, all right, no threats here, No threats,
thank you. Lucia who not sure what we learned there?
Just don't go where Luciano.
Speaker 7 (48:38):
Is entertainingly frightening everything.
Speaker 2 (48:42):
It seems to get edgier and edgier. Yeah, you're not nervous,
are you?
Speaker 5 (48:49):
Mark?
Speaker 4 (48:51):
Am I nervous? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (48:52):
No?
Speaker 4 (48:52):
No, no, if I'm on his good side, no, I'm
not nervous.
Speaker 2 (48:54):
Okay, Paulie needs to be nervous now.
Speaker 4 (49:00):
Ever never okay?
Speaker 2 (49:04):
Yeah, Seaton, are you poised to uh offer something here?
I don't know how that call was presented to Tyler
funny too, because I don't know.
Speaker 6 (49:18):
I don't know if what Luciano had to say to
paul was the point or if there was still a
bet involved that we never got to.
Speaker 2 (49:25):
But that's I had to cut you know, one on
a long due to time. I mean, you have to
get to your.
Speaker 6 (49:30):
Remember that guy last week we called there was like,
this is obviously a huge mistake because he.
Speaker 2 (49:35):
Just kept going on and on he couldn't land the plane,
and then he self edited himself like obviously this is
a bad idea. Yes, all right, when we come back,
got a new poll question and is it a foregone
conclusion who's going to win the Heisman. We'll have that
for you when we come back. Dan Patrick Shaw
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio. I hope you had a great weekend. Everybody, Wow,
there was a lot that happened. We'll try to dissect
that over the next three hours. Come on in, stay awhile.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Gang's all here, including Fritzie, played the day poll question
stat of the Day, all of that coming up. Can't
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celebrating major sporting events, no where the city compares to
Vegas and the spectacle the celebration woven into their fabric.
It's not just celebrating, it's celebrating with an edge. And
(00:35):
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always do every Monday, best and worst of the weekend.
Say good morning watching on Peacock. Thank you for downloading
the app. Well, you had an interesting game last night
at Lambeau. The Green Bay Packers are back. Jordan Love
(00:58):
might be the future for the Green Bay Packers and
the Kansas City Chiefs. Hmmm, things that make you go hmm.
Eagles against the forty nine Ers. I did wonder Wow,
there were two point spreads where I went Oregon double
digit favored against Washington, didn't see it, Niners favored on
(01:21):
the road against Philadelphia. Should us saw it? Saw it
really quick. But that was one of those moments where
you go, I'm watching the Philadelphia game and I'm thinking,
just don't get too beat up, because you got the
Cowboys that's next week. That might be as important as
a Dallas game has had in a long long time.
(01:44):
And here's Philadelphia getting beat up. I mean physically, mentally,
they got roughed up, and now you got Dallas, and
I just kept thinking, First of all, they had players
who were still in the game, like Jalen Hurts. I'm
thinking two minutes ago, what are we doing here? Get
him out? Swift got roughed up, get him out, live
(02:05):
to see another day. But that one kind of surprised
me just how methodical San Francisco was. And I know
we love to talk about brock perty MVP. I know
Christian McCaffery is scoring touchdowns at a record setting pace.
The person who makes the Niners go is Deebo Samuel.
(02:26):
He was healthy and you got a healthy dose of
Deebo Samuel. That was impressive. So they rough up the Eagles,
Packers hold off the Chiefs, Dolphins, role Texans hanging in there,
Lions held on the Colts and minshewe mania. You know
where I stand with Gardner Minshew. I think he's a
(02:48):
really good backup quarterback. But he's playing really good football
for the Colts. I know maybe they're not beating really
good teams, but they're winning and that's all you need
to do. Just ask the Steeler, Hey, can you beat
the Cardinals at home? What are you doing all the
weather interruptions? Well, it interrupted Arizona two. That's one of
(03:11):
those games where he went that shocked me. And then
guess who they have coming up Thursday night? The dangerous
New England Patriots. Oh no, yeah, Thursday Nights Football. How
grumpy is Al Michael's going to be on Thursday Night? Yes?
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Well should they give Al out of respect the night off?
Because I think it's going to be if Kenny Pickett on.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Why don't they give us the night off? How about
we just don't show that game. I think it's Trubisky
versus Bailey Zeppie. Yeah, oh, they're not going to be
on the promo though. It has to be Tomlin and
Belichick has to be by the way, or maybe TJ.
Watt throw him in there and Bill Belichick. Whoever it
is for the Steelers, it'll be Bill Belichick. Bill Belichick
(03:56):
didn't have a good press conference yesterday after they were
shut out at home by the Chargers.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
What do you identify as maybe some of the missteps
you know that have contributed to the offense not producing
this season.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
I just I just answered that question, Mike.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
I guess I'm trying to figure out.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
I'm trying to Lisa. In the season review, we're talking
about the game. Games just over happy to talk about
the game. I don't know if he was happy to
talk about that game happy. Yeah, Hey, I'm happy to
talk about it. No, No, I'm required to talk about him.
Bengals at the Jags. The Jags now they're favored by ten.
(04:34):
You need a nice, clean, crisp, dominating performance here. You
need you need to put up, you know, some pretty
good numbers just so you stay in that picture there
in the AFC. Then you have the College Football Weekend
and the committee puts Michigan, Washington, Texas, Alabama, in Florida
State and Georgia are out. Let's go back to Friday
(04:57):
watching the PAC twelve title game. Washington looks wonderful. Oregon's
coming back. Then Washington answers with a couple of late
drives and they stay undefeated. That might be the best
conference this year PAC twelve. There's at least an argument
with how good the PAC twelve was this year. So
Washington's going to be in no matter what. They beat
(05:17):
Oregon twice, they're going to be in. There's your undefeated team,
Texas Texas Saturday afternoon standalone game. You're favored by at
least two touchdowns against Oklahoma State. You need to put
up some big numbers, and they did. They looked unbelievable
and as a source said to me, they might be
(05:38):
the fastest team in America. That's an exciting, dynamic team.
And so they're in. And then you had Alabama and
Georgia standalone game and you're watching and figuring whoever wins
is going to be in? And I kept thinking, is
Georgia not going to be in the playoffs. George has
been number one almost the entire season, they had won
(06:00):
twenty nine games, back to back champs, and they lose
on a neutral site by three with two of their
best receivers banged up in that game, Maconkee and Bowers,
and they're not going to be in the playoffs. And
then you have Florida State standalone game, third string quarterback
(06:22):
and it's less than enthusiastic sixteen to six win against Louisville,
and I could see it. You know that, you know
you had Florida State trying to generate some offense because
if you put up some style points, let's say you
put up twenty four to twenty eight points, you might
be in the playoffs. Because it comes back to what
(06:43):
I've said to you many many times the last couple
of years. This is a TV show. They don't want
to blow out like they had last year with TCU. Right,
you got to get style points. Texas got style points
right in front of us. We saw it, like wow,
they are and they beat Alabama earlier this year. Florida State,
(07:04):
you have a legitimate beef, but you're not one of
the top four teams in America right now. If Vegas
gave you odds, Florida State would be an underdog to everybody.
They'd be an underdog probably to Ohio State. They'd be
an underdog to a few teams that didn't even make
it into the playoffs. You don't have your quarterback. He's
a wonderful quarterback. If you had somebody like Jamis Winston,
(07:28):
then there'd be a must see. I mean it's sort
of like you tune in to watch Friends and Jennifer
Aniston isn't there. You're like, okay, it's not the same.
I got Ross, I don't have Rachel Well. Florida State
doesn't have their quarterback. Alabama is a draw. Nick Saban
commercials success him in the playoffs. Harbaugh, I don't think
(07:52):
Michigan's a great team. I mean they beat an overrated
Penn State team. They held on to beat Ohio State.
If you look at the teams they play in the
Big Ten, those teams are terrible. I mean they're not
I mean they're terrible. Now, they did win. I don't
know how good Michigan is. You know, it wasn't pretty
(08:13):
against Iowa. I mean, you did win. I was not good.
Good defense, maybe a good punter, but that's about it.
So you're trying to handicap this and then you know
who gets in and then the seating and it's me
conspiracy theory, But Michigan's number one, and I think that
(08:37):
maybe the committee goes, yeah, Michigan got in, had the
little signs stealing thing. How about we put Alabama there
at number four. Just a conspiracy theory on my part,
no inside information on that. But the committee wants to
put together a great weekend, a great matchup with both
(08:59):
of these games, and that's what you have. Michigan, Alabama's wonderful,
Texas in Washington offensive fire that's spectacular. I get to
be fun. Florida State would not have been a draw.
They're not interesting, really good defensive front. Played great against Louisville.
(09:19):
By the way, Louisville, come on, what are you doing?
You want to step up? Step up? You had your
opportunity there, but Florida State outside looking in and now
it's Florida State against Georgia. Georgia would be favored against
everybody probably, I mean, Georgia has a legitimate beef. But
(09:42):
you got to take somebody out. This is like when
we always go have March Madness. Well, that team should
be in Who you're taking out? Oh, I don't know,
but that team should be in Georgia. Okay, who are
you taking out Texas. I can't do that to Texas.
I mean, it was just a bad timing. Award goes
to Alabama or goes to Georgia, and then here's Florida State.
(10:05):
You're not getting respect because you're in the ACC. You've
been trying to get out of the ACC. I mean,
this is now. I know next year it'll be different
because then you'd be in the playoffs and then the debate,
the controversy is going to be about seating. Who's going
to get a first round by home field advantage. I mean,
that's really what the big issue is going to be.
(10:27):
But it does change next year when we have twelve teams.
By the way, there was something that came out over
the weekend with Greg Sank, the SEC Commissioner, and he
brought to light what I told you a while ago,
and that was that the Playoff Committee was trying to
do a twelve team playoff in twenty twenty three, trying
(10:49):
to They wanted to do it before twenty twenty five.
You had TV contracts and the meetings that went on.
They were creating this Bowl Alliance. While all these schools
are jumping different conferences, they're Bowl Alliance. They were trying
to do a twelve team playoff. Now, initially I misspoke
and said it was going to be twenty twenty two,
(11:10):
and then we went to a commercial break, my source
said it's twenty twenty three, and then I corrected that
that they were trying to do that. And I heard
from the college football world that you know, I was
wrong and they can't break contracts, And I said, I
know that they have contracts. My friend John Skipper, who
(11:32):
was my boss at ESPN, helped negotiate those contracts, so
I was aware of the contracts. But they did try
to do this because the money that was involved. We
get caught up in pomp and circumstance and the pageantry
of the bowl games. The reality is what just happened
this weekend. Yeah, you did what you're supposed to do.
And that's nice. Bo Oh, that's a cute little story.
(11:56):
Bu it's putting together for teams matchups because you want
this is all about money. I know, student athlete did
the right thing, coach did the right thing, everybody did
the right thing. Fairness all that. It's about money. That's
what this has always been about. That's why they tried
(12:17):
to do it in twenty twenty three, even though they
had TV contracts till twenty twenty five. They tried. Now
they did move it up, breaking these Oh my gosh,
you can't break those contracts. They did that, so that's
why we have the playoffs coming up. But Greg Sanke,
who was not my source on this, by the way,
but I did tell you I trusted my source, went
(12:38):
up the flagpole and when he told me about what
was going on, and then I brought it to your attention.
So whatever it means, and maybe it doesn't mean anything,
Maybe it's just me try to take a victory lap
here because I got rouffed up. I got rouffed up
by the college football insiders who said, you know, stick
to you know what you know, or let us handle
(13:01):
this stuff. And there are a few of you guys
out there. But I wasn't here to mislead anybody. I
wasn't doing a hot take. I was giving you what
was a great source. And that's what we do on
the show. It's like when the Big Ten said they
were shutting down football, college insiders came after me. What happened?
Speaker 5 (13:20):
What?
Speaker 2 (13:21):
In an opinion, it was fact Big Ten shut down
football during covid I said Pac twelve is going to
shut down football because of their alliance with a Big ten.
Came after me on that one. I do this for
my audience, my reputations on everything that we bring up
on this show. If there's a report, it's my reputation.
If it's an opinion, it's just me. But when I
(13:43):
have a report, and hopefully I have it nailed down,
and Greg Sanki brought that up that they did try
to do this in twenty twenty three. So my little
victory lap here, thank you for allowing me to take it.
Speaker 6 (13:54):
Yes, it is funny because some of the people who
called you out most ferocious yea currently have pinned to
the top of their Twitter accounts. Hey could you imagine
if there was a playoff this year? Turns out that
was almost possible. Interesting, Yeah, you should scroll back a
couple of years in your timeline there, dude.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Yeah, Yeah, they came after me, and I'm like, look,
I know what I'm doing. I spent forty years to
build up a reputation. Yeah, Paulin.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
What I found really naive about the reporting around that
altogether was there was a reporting that said there's a
contract there's no way could be broken. If all parties
on a contract agreed to break a contract and rewrite
a contract so they could start something a year early
and make a whole bunch more money a year earlier.
That's how contracts could get broken. All parties on a
contract agree. This didn't happen. Stanky walked us through it
(14:44):
the other night, thou there are some people who didn't
break it. It took sixteen months to negotiate.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
It was on the table, it was discussed, and that's
what I told you.
Speaker 7 (14:53):
It's like a.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Lottery ticket and everyone in the room says, we're going
to pick it up next year. But then everyone in
the room says, no, we'll pick it up six months away.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
And I thought, if you're that naive to go, they
won't break a contract to make millions and millions and
millions and millions more. You know, everybody breaks contract. It
happens all the time every day. And why oh, college football,
they wouldn't. They wouldn't break contract. It's based on breaking contracts.
(15:21):
Look at the PAC twelve, Big twelve sec Come on.
So I was thank you, Greg Sanky. You didn't know
that you made my weekend When I went it. Yes, Yes,
I sent a text to the DAN and it's like, oh, then.
Speaker 6 (15:36):
Occasion at the text at like three in the morning,
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
What an occasion. I thought you were in the hospital
or something. No, I just sent like a screen grab
of Sankey what he said there?
Speaker 4 (15:49):
Yes, Marty, so that is your best of the weekend.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Yes, it was. Yes, it was that one. That one
felt really good because I thought I can never out
my source. I can never damn would you please say
it publicly? And then Greg Sanky did it and I went, yeah,
thank you, Greg, Thank you gre somebody Todd reach out
to Greg Sanky and just tell him thank you. Yeah,
(16:12):
I just say thanks. We don't need him on just
thank you. All right, let me take a break, just
getting started. First of all, this TV contracts at place,
it'll never know, you can't do it. What about the bulls?
What about the bulls?
Speaker 4 (16:23):
I go, oh my god.
Speaker 6 (16:24):
I've been in every meeting about this discussion. They've never
brought them.
Speaker 7 (16:27):
I know.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Well that's because there were meetings that nobody was allowed in.
Speaker 6 (16:32):
That they were hold on a second, you mean major
powerful people don't discuss every option directly in front of
the media, for the first time.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Wait a minute, are we sure about that? Ye?
Speaker 4 (16:41):
Are we sure?
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yeah? Okay, and we come back. We'll come up with
a our pole question options here. Rick Neuheisel, he was
part of the SEC broadcast on CBS over the weekend.
He was there in Atlanta. Rick will join us. We'll
get his thoughts on what he thinks should have happened
and did happen and how this all plays out. We'll
(17:03):
have that for you coming up. Well, take a break,
we're back after this, just getting started. Dan and the
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Speaker 2 (17:50):
We'll talk to the former college coach Rick Neuheisel. Always
love his perspective. He was working for CBS covering the
SEC title game. He'll join us. Coming up here a
moment uh Alan Atlanta, Al, welcome back. How's morale?
Speaker 5 (18:05):
Good morning, Dan? Thanks taking my call. Best and worst
of the weekend. Best of the weekend watching all of
those Philadelphia Eagles fans just sit there stewing in that loss.
As an Atlanta sports fan, you always love watching fairy
fans just angry at life. Worse of the weekend, all
(18:25):
the whole lads crying about Florida State not getting in.
Who did they play? They play in the ACC. They're
the little brother of the Power five conferences. Like talk
to me when you play some real teams. Okay, you
beat Florida and LSU whooped to do not that big
of a deal.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Well, Lshu is good. LSU's gonna have the Heisman Trophy winner, right, LSU.
I mean I don't think you can go man, Florida.
I mean Florida's been pedestrian. LSU gonna have the Heisman
Trophy winner, so I do have to factor that in.
I mean, I can look at Michigan's schedule here, overrated
(19:05):
Penn State team, they held on to beat Ohio State
at home, and you know the teams that they play,
they're some of the worst offenses in all of college
football in the Big Ten. So I mean we can
sit here and nitpick and go, oh, this, this team
and this conference, and at the end of the day,
(19:28):
they want to have great football matchups. That's what they
want to have, and they did. They did their job.
These are great football matchups here. Yes, Florida State did.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Play teams like North Alabama and they always played a
couple of cupcakes, but they played LSU and Florida. Michigan
started the season hosting East Carolina, hosting UNLV, a good
team but not power team, hosting Bowling Green, and hosting Rutgers.
That was their September. That's not tough for Michigan.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Yeah, there's a lot of teams in the Big Ten
that aren't any good. They're not certainly offensively, they're not terrible.
Brian in Wisconsin, Hi, Brian good morning, good morning.
Speaker 9 (20:13):
Hey, So let's get real about this retirement nonsense.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
So this is like equating you till I kiss for
the rolling stone.
Speaker 9 (20:20):
This is gonna go out for like thirty years.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
No, it's not December twenty fourth, twenty twenty seven, guaranteed,
that's it.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
They're going to call a taxidermis and just put you
in a corner.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Well, that that's possible, but I'm not going to be
alive to know that. So if it's weekend at Bernie's
and they prop me up here, then that'll be on
the dan Etes.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Yes, Paulin, all right, I guarantee you have to give
up something. If you're on the air past your due
date or whatever your retirement date, you're punishment, not punishment.
But we have to come up with a guarantee.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Do you want me to I'm up with a guarantee.
We'll figure out because that might mean that it's all
ending on December twenty four, twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 6 (21:06):
By the way, I can't think of a way to
make sure it doesn't happen more than to be like,
if you go past your here's your punishment, okay, and
I won't go past there.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
If you guys. Well, okay, what's the punishment? Do you
guys want to come up with the punishment?
Speaker 3 (21:20):
How about you have to do four more years, not
one more year, like you don't do extended one.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
No, I you know it's run its course for me
in America. You know, in four more years it'll be
it'll be time, you know, time to move. I've I've
left my Mark. I think it'll it'll be time.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
Yes, Mark, do we stay on the payroll at twenty
twenty eight?
Speaker 2 (21:43):
No? No, Oh, that's a guarantee. That is that's guaranteed. Okay,
car is a guarantee. Garan damn t No. I've enjoyed it.
But there's other things I want to do. Maybe there's
a podcast or something. Maybe there's things that I continue
to do. But the every day. Let Nick Wright come
(22:08):
in and pick up my scraps or something like that,
you know, Ross Tucker. Let him come in and take over.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
Move to Milford.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Maybe I got a man cave here, nothing going on.
Let me get to Rick new Heisel, the former coach,
and he was working for CBS SEC Title Gang and
kind enough to join us. Rick, when you went to
bed Saturday night, what did you think was going to
happen with the committee on Sunday, I thought.
Speaker 10 (22:37):
Exactly what transpired would transpire. I had it right. I
said it on the end of our broadcast at the
SEC game that I envisioned Louisville winning the game because
the third string quarterback would play for Florida State. Congratulations
Florida State's defense for playing so brilliantly. But I did
think that the SEC's champion would find a way in,
(23:00):
and by means that Alabama was in that role, they'd
bring Texas with him.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Why did Florida State get left out?
Speaker 10 (23:09):
First of all, it's crushing for all of us who coach,
knowing what Mike Norbel is going through. I saw his
face as he got the news on that screen, and
it was, I mean devastating. Can only imagine, because what
else do you do other than win all your games?
But it's there's the SEC and the Big Ten. I
(23:31):
think Washington Dan should be the number one team. I mean,
Washington's in the better conference this year. The Pac twelve
is a better conference. They beat Oregon twice, Michigan has
the Ohio State victory, who's already jettison their quarterback. I
mean Michigan's victories. Iowa was one hundred and thirty third
in offense, Michigan State was one hundred and twenty eight
in offense. Minnesota was one hundred and twenty fifth, Rutgers
(23:53):
was one hundred and twenty third, Nebraska was one hundred
and eighteen, Indiana was one hundred and first. East Carolina
was one hundred and thirtieth. In bowling, Green was one
hundred and fifth. That's their schedule and they had one
point nine yards per carry against Iowa, less than five
yards an attempt against Iowa, Michigan, Washington should be won.
(24:15):
And so here's my point. My point is the Big
ten and the SEC are always going to get in
because they moved the needle. Television wise, it's nothing that's
it's discussed.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
In the meeting room.
Speaker 10 (24:28):
I don't think anybody sits there. Well, these two are in,
but they're in. They have to be in because they
can take their ball and go home. I was with
Larry Scott when the college football playoff was discussed, and
it was adamant amongst many of the commissioners that the
four teams had to all be conference champions. Mike'slive said no,
(24:49):
and he was going to say, I'm not in if
we don't do it this way, and he wielded that
kind of back. And I don't say it because he's bad.
He had that kind of influence and he was taking
care of his conference. So Michigan as the Big ten champ,
has to be where they are, and Alabama is the
SEC champ, has to be in, and by virtue of
Texas's victory over Alabama, they're in as well. I would
(25:12):
tell you if Georgia would have won that game, it
would have been Texas out. Florida State would have been in.
I truly believe that.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Okay, does Georgia have a gripe of not being in
the final four.
Speaker 10 (25:24):
Sure, But there's just no room at the end this time.
I mean, they can't get in over Alabama, and they
can't get in because Texas beat Alabama. There is no room. Yeah,
and this is just one of those weird years where
we've got so many really really talented teams at the top.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
I wonder maybe it's conspiracy theory that the playoff committee goes, yeah, Michigan,
you're in signs dealing scandal. Your reward is you get Alabama.
Speaker 10 (25:55):
Maybe, So maybe so because again I thought that Michigan
should have been behind Washington. Now the only thing, the
only metric that they can say Washington's behind Michigan is,
you know, game control. Michigan pounded lesser opponents, and I
just went through that resume list. By the way, have
(26:17):
you ever heard of a team going into a game
where they're over under the first half point?
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Tattle is one half.
Speaker 10 (26:27):
The new fight song at Illino at Iowa is how
low can you go? The limbo song? It's incredible. But
I do believe that the team that would surprise me
most winning at all would be Michigan.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Why.
Speaker 10 (26:45):
I think Alabama because they're the least explosive team of
all of them. The other three teams have the ability
to put up points and make big plays. I don't
know that Michigan has that same kind of skill.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
We're talking to Rick new Heisel, former college coach, works
for CBS Sports. Will we ever have this level of
drama in the playoffs?
Speaker 10 (27:03):
Again, I don't know that this level of drama will
exist when we get to twelve thirteen conversation, you know,
because I'll be assuming the champions coming four to five
to six. So I don't know that we'll get to this.
So if there's a way to go out with drama,
as with the exclamation point, this is probably it.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
I think you could go back to when Auburn got screwed,
when we had you know, oh yeah, yeah, when they
went underfeed question. So we hit out question three teams
undefeated and then they got left out, and then that
felt like that kick started. Well, you got to have
four teams in and now we go to twelve, and
how long do we stay at twelve? In your opinion,
(27:49):
great question, It will determine.
Speaker 10 (27:51):
It will be determined by if we consolidate and bring
down Division one to that kind of NFL ask for
eight to sixty four teams. It will be determined by that.
If we go to that, I would say that we'll
eventually be at sixteen.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Who are you voting for for the Heisman?
Speaker 10 (28:12):
Jayden Daniels, He's been sensational. I had thought I had
said that the winner of that Pac twelve matchup if
the quarterbacks are as advertised, and I thought Penis was brilliant.
If he'd have had four touchdown passes rather than one,
just so the numbers for the voters would have been
bigger I think Penix would have had a fight and chance,
but that was a That's been a brilliant run for
Kaylin de Boric watching Washington.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Is there anything more dangerous than Nick Saban in the
playoffs in college? For nothing? No?
Speaker 4 (28:40):
Nothing?
Speaker 10 (28:40):
Yeah, he delivered. You know, I'm from the Church of
Saban and Loujah. You know, he delivered a perfect sermon
on Saturday. I mean, the guy is just sensational. He's sensational.
And the Jalen Millrow story is one for the ages.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
But you know what's interesting, Rick and I mentioned this earlier,
that he was in a spread offense when he was
in high school. He didn't run, right, That's right, and
he's learning. Damn. I'm as fast, if not faster, than
these guys I'm going to And you could almost see
it in his eyes. I'm telling you the stands.
Speaker 10 (29:15):
I'm told that because he's a neophyte, I don't think
much is innate in terms of his instincts for the game.
But he's so uniquely talented. As he continues to evolve,
I'm told that he does not have a option mentality.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
They tell him to give it or to keep it.
Speaker 10 (29:36):
On these particular plays when he evolves and he can
read the defender and he takes it when it's the
appropriate to take it. Katie bar the door. He is
going to be a sensation. I said at the beginning
of the game, I took Alabama, and I said because
Milroe's legs. Now, Milroe's legs weren't a factor in the game.
But you could see what they did to George's pass rush.
(29:57):
They were sitting there with the spy and they were
letting him back there count the house. Now, they got
to him a few times because somebody would get off
of that block, but ultimately at the end of the
game where they needed first downs, a thirty yard run
and a nine yard run with a difference, that guy
is special.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
If QB Kyle McCord is going to enter the portal
with Ohio State, does that mean they're in the market
outside of Ohio State.
Speaker 10 (30:23):
They are they jettisoned him. That has to be the case. Yes,
you don't leave Ohio State. There's no there's no greener pasture,
especially given the receivers that they have accumulated there that's
been that was a you need to look for someplace else.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
If quinn Ewers returns to Texas.
Speaker 10 (30:42):
You know that one kid that is above the transfer
portal madness won't get swayed by, you know, wanting to
play the musical chairs game. It would be arch Manning.
He won't get involved in all that. So quinn Ewers
I would fully expect to come back and play again
at Texas. Who wouldn't want to be the quarterback on
the forty acres right given all the fancy bells and
(31:05):
whistles that go with that job. They're in the playoff
for the first time. By the way, congratulations to Sark.
It's the first time he's ever won ten games. It's
the first conference champion he's ever had. So wonderful job
by him. And the fastest team in America Texas. Oh,
it might be the fastest team. And you put those
two beautiful defensive tackles in that in that shiny window.
(31:28):
I'm in New York right now. You know how they
put all those holiday treats in the window? You put
to and Andre Sweat and Byron Murphy and their college
football coaches would be sitting out there longing.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Okay, let me go back to arch Manning. He wants
to play. Yeah, Okay, it's not about ni l. This
is about opportunity. You could go to the USC right now,
You could go to Ohio State right now, many.
Speaker 10 (31:52):
Others with Archie, with Peyton, with Eli and Cooper. Patients
will win the day. I think patients will win the day.
He's different because he can be different.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Good to talk to you, Ben, Thanks for joinning. Always
a pleasure.
Speaker 10 (32:07):
Happy holidays.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
My friend Rick new Heiseel, always good, always enlightens this
and interesting though his thoughts on the playoffs and you know,
once again bringing up the Big Ten schedule for Michigan
and the teams they played. It's just you can make
arguments for a lot of teams here. The committee once
(32:28):
again can decide what they want to do. Nobody's there going, hey,
you can't do that. There's no reporter in the room.
Nobody's holding them accountable from the standpoint of what they
do in real time. They're looking at this and as
much as we don't want to believe it, I didn't
want to believe it until somebody who is in the
process told me these are TV shows. Think of it
(32:52):
that way. This is primetime TV show, it's a football game,
it's a TV show. We want to make sure people
want to watch. We want to make sure that there's interest.
It's a competitive game. There's not going to be a
blowout that you get that true national championship game. I
mean the fact that TCU got in, like we love
(33:12):
the underdog story until reality set in and David was
not taken down Goliath. Goliath just stepped on him. Hopefully
you won't have that this year. That will have competitive matchups.
All right, we'll take a break. We'll give you our
best and Worst of the weekend right after this.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
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Speaker 2 (33:39):
Final Hour on this Monday, Dan and the Dan That's
Dan Patrick Show come on in. Stay awhile gangsa here,
including Fritzy. We'll get some more phone calls coming up
as well. We ste every Monday best and Worst of
the weekend. What you saw that you liked you didn't like.
We talked a lot about the college football playoff committee, Michigan, Washington,
Texas and Alabama. We talked about the early point spreads.
(34:02):
Alabama getting one and a half against Michigan, Texas is
giving four and a half with Washington, and according to Draftking,
the odds to win the college football playoffs, it's Michigan,
closely followed by Alabama, then Texas and then Washington football
coming up tonight, the Bengals getting ten on the road
(34:22):
over under is forty in that game. Good morning. If
you're watching on Peacock, thank you our radio partners, numbering
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Fox Sports Radio. Pole question for that final hour of
the program. Also, I'm going to throw out this possibility.
I don't know if it's legally possible. I don't know
(34:43):
if it's being considered. There is speculation Florida State could
sue to get into the playoffs. Now just speculation. I
don't have any inside information. I haven't heard from anybody
other than just there's sort of a ground swell. Can
you do this? Michigan threatened to do this with getting
(35:04):
Jim Harbaugh to be able to stay on the sidelines
with the team. They quickly dropped that when they realized
that there was some damaging information out there. But does
Florida State have any legal ground to stand on? I'd
love to hear it if I'm a judge. I mean,
I'd put it in front of Judge Judy. I would
have done that with Jim Harbaugh. I just think that
(35:25):
would be awesome. Yeah, what are you here for? Uh? Well,
I didn't do anything wrong. Somebody on my staff did.
Just get to the point. Coach with Florida State. What's
Judge duty going to say? Yeah, but your third string quarterback.
I mean, we can't put you into the PLAYOFMS. Yes,
Dohn more frivolous lawsuits in this country.
Speaker 11 (35:45):
If it's a subjective decision, I don't know how you
could suit for some of that's revolous.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
This is important.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
There's a lot of money at stake, a lot of money.
Speaker 7 (35:53):
It's if it was a machine like we used to have,
and that's where it came out. That's what it is.
Speaker 11 (35:56):
You've got to accept the machine. But this is people's
just decisions. It's a objective thing that everyone agreed to.
Let these people decide.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Yeah, I know it's a flawed system. And then we're
angry that it's a flawed system. We're like, come on,
where's the logic. There's no logic in this.
Speaker 6 (36:11):
It's like you're rooting for chaos all weekend and they're
unhappy about the results. It's like that, No, that the
chaos is the results. That's that's what you were rooting for.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Yeah. Yes.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
A number of Florida senators and congressmen have tweeted out
things are very upset the committee, you know, pandering to
their fan base that they're on there at Florida State.
One of them said he's going to look into it
and circulating a letter condemning Nancy. I don't know if
there's a loss suit pending. Nothing like that has been reported,
but there's some posturing.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
It does feel like pandering.
Speaker 11 (36:41):
Yeahsta, yes, you know how long these things get caught
up in the court system. That means the semifinal games
will be played to like may or something.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Uh No, they'll be They'll be played. They're gonna be
played on time, by the way. Sunday Night, Jalen Hurts
and the Eagles take on Dak Prescott and the Cowboys
NFC showdown on Sunday seven Eastern NBC and Peacock.
Speaker 10 (37:03):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
When's the last time Dallas had a game of this magnitude?
A decade maybe longer. This is huge. They can't afford
to lose this game. I thought they were gonna win
in Philadelphia, probably should have this one. You have to
win this game, must win, and you get Philadelphia coming
(37:28):
off getting banged up and blown out by San Francisco,
and this is that. This is that stretch here where
Dallas is going to tell us a whole lot where
they stand in the NFC, and also where Dak Prescott is,
you know, standing with the MVP. It's all here, Dak Prescott,
(37:48):
you do this, you go three and one in these
four game stretch, you go four to oh, you're probably
gonna win the MVP. And it's about home field advantage.
That's what's so instead of going on the road for
your playoffs, being able to have home fielded this game
is huge for Dallas and Philly too, because you want
(38:09):
to know, you know, San Francisco went through that three
game losing streak and we're like, okay, and then all
of a sudden, what we saw yesterday, It's like, oh, okay,
because that was as impressive. You know, when you think
Philadelphia is the best team in football, San Francisco is favored,
slight favored, and they go in and that that was
(38:31):
embarrassing for Philadelphia and give credit to San Francisco, but
Deebo Samuel, if he's healthy, he's on the field, I
have an advantage that not many teams have. The only
other team that might have a better, bigger advantage would
be the Dolphins with Tyreek Hill when he's on the field.
I don't know if I'm guessing. Somebody asked Ron Rivera,
(38:53):
the commander's coach, why were you in single coverage on
Tyreek Hill? What's trying to trick him? Like reverse psychology? Yeah,
we're not going to cover you. Let's see what you
can do. Now about seventy eight yards?
Speaker 3 (39:08):
Try to tire him out?
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Yeah, how about seventy two yard? Yeah, he's not gonna
be good in the second half because he had these
long touchdowns in the first half, just like in Rocky.
Speaker 6 (39:16):
Okay, just keep taking the body shots that it's gonna
tire him out, all right.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
So there were some impressive wins, the Eagles getting blown out,
Packers hold off the Chiefs. Now. I've been in Jordan
Love's corner since he got the job. I thought they
needed to move on from Aaron Rodgers. I think the
Packers have won the Aaron Rodgers sweepstakes, and I think
Jordan Love is a franchise quarterback. Now, I did hear
(39:42):
from a lot of you who said, how's your franchise
quarterback doing a couple of weeks ago, and you were right.
But it's a learning process. Hasn't played many games. What's
he played ten games in his career? Tough October. But
in the condition given a Sunday night standalone game, he's
(40:03):
had what twelve starts, He's played pretty well.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
Twenty two touchdowns, ten picks, and his percentage is going up.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Yes, he looked the part last night, and I think
green Bay. It sets up green Bay can win and
get into the playoffs. If you pull up their schedule,
they can win the rest of their games. Now, I'm
not saying they are, but if they play the way
they did last night, they are. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
Pulling green Bay is at the Giants host the Buccaneers,
at the Panthers, at the Vikings host the Bears. They
will be favored in every game.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
So they could. They could run the gamut here make
the playoffs. How many wins would that give them? That
give them eleven.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
Where they're right now, they're yeah, that'd be eleven and
six if they ran.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
The table eleven and six, pretty good.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
Detroit's nine to three, but this is more of you know,
wild card.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Yes, well, if I said to you in October, you're
a green Bay fan even at the beginning of the year.
Now I thought they could challenge for the division. I thought, okay,
you lose Rogers, but they haven't been healthy, the youngest
team in Pro football, and I think that, you know,
trying to get everybody healthy. Running back situation hasn't been fluid.
(41:21):
But I thought that he played pretty well, and like,
that's one of those games. I almost focused on the
Chiefs where I go, hm, you know, slow start, Like
eventually those things catch up to you. Normally that's where
the Chiefs come back and win. And when it was
what twenty one nineteen or I thought, you know, here
(41:42):
we go, Chiefs gonna let the Packers hang in there
and then they're gonna you know, kill them at the end.
The Green Bay played good football and you beat the Chiefs.
I don't care when and where you beat the Chiefs.
And Jordan Love that's a big game for him. It
now starting to feel like Aaron Rodgers won't come back
(42:05):
and play if they're not in the playoff mix. I'm
going to just wait until we get there. I'm just
gonna wait. Yeah, it's all the speculating, all the talk
McAfee conversation. I'm just going wait. You know, if it happens, great,
if it doesn't, okay, yes, don.
Speaker 11 (42:25):
We're gonna see him jogging in place next on the
sideline jumping rope, just to.
Speaker 7 (42:28):
Let us know.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
Hey, I'm getting maybe probably, But I've said that this
was about Aaron Rodgers. I mean, clear to practice, got
a twenty one day window. This about Aaron Rodgers. I
don't think it's about the Jets. I think it's about
Aaron Rodgers because that team is not good. They're not
going to be in the playoff mix. But it felt
(42:50):
like Aaron Rodgers wanted to get back. Approve a point
Pine approval point Yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
Do you think that part of Rogers rationale, especially the
three or four weeks after he got injured, when he said, well,
you know, the end of the season he started dripping
that out there, was to motivate his teammates to stay
playoff eligible, like, I'll do my best to be back.
Speaker 4 (43:09):
You got to do your.
Speaker 3 (43:09):
Best to keep us in the mix for a wild
card spot. Maybe in his mind.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
Yeah, but I don't know if the players go he's gone,
we shouldn't try hard, like.
Speaker 3 (43:20):
I guess, like motivational tool.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
Well, if you needed that that, hey, guys, I'm out,
but uh, you keep playing really hard because I'm going
to come back and save you.
Speaker 5 (43:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (43:28):
See well yeah, but like the idea that motivation isn't
real isn't accurate either, though, you know. I mean, like
when you lose your superstar quarterback that you've built the
whole season around, people get deflated and they don't play
the same. I'm not saying that the offensive lineman don't
try as hard, but they know that the guy who's
back there isn't as good as the other guy.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
But that's when you have to try harder because the
guy is not as good.
Speaker 6 (43:53):
Right, Like in a perfect world, that's the way it
would be, but in reality, that's not how life works.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
Uh. I mean, I don't. I watched the game yesterday.
I don't know why, Like I'm morbidly fascinated with the
Patriots against the Chargers, the Falcons against the Jets, and
you're just going, this is so bad, but I can't,
I can't stop watching it. And then you're going. All right,
there's some glimpses here. But if Rogers comes back, great,
(44:20):
it's content for me. If he doesn't, it's still content.
But I do think this is about Aaron coming back
modern medicine. His way is different than yours, and his
way is the right way. Fine, whatever works for him. Uh.
Luciano in Brooklyn is back with us. Hey, Luciana, morning.
Speaker 9 (44:40):
Couple, Marvin Peace King what I said? And of course
to the good Fella's time Seaton Party.
Speaker 7 (44:48):
It's about.
Speaker 9 (44:51):
Keep poking to be party. I'm gonna get you.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
Luciano doesn't really want an answer. When he said what's up?
Speaker 3 (44:57):
It was more slangish.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
Yes, it's like what's up? But I don't I want
to hear.
Speaker 7 (45:00):
What do you want to know?
Speaker 4 (45:01):
What was up?
Speaker 2 (45:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (45:02):
It's similar, Paul to when people walk in the room
and instead of saying hello, you say what do you got?
Speaker 2 (45:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (45:08):
What do you have?
Speaker 2 (45:09):
I don't know, like seven fifty and a cup of coffee? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (45:13):
Yeah? All right?
Speaker 2 (45:14):
What are you going for me? Luciana? What do you got?
Speaker 9 (45:17):
Copple? So, because I'm very fond of you, I want
you to put on your helmet and buckle your chin
strap for this one, okay, because not only you're about
to settle a very heated barbershop debate, but this debate
has actually plagued America for the last twenty plus years.
So you're gonna go down to the American history. Now
before you do this, I'm serious, Copple.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
Before you know that, I know that, I know that.
Speaker 9 (45:40):
I got to break some balls, all right, So Todd,
I got a pie to the face challenge for you,
all right, And you're gonna think I'm crazy for offering
you this, But that's exactly the point, my young, livelheaded friend.
There's gonna be great content for America because if I win,
America gets to see you take another pie to the kisser.
If you win, I guess let's see lu channel.
Speaker 5 (46:01):
Now.
Speaker 9 (46:01):
I can't recall just how many times I've been called
pretty in my life, but I do know that my
mother thinks I'm handsome, So it's gonna be great for everybody.
Speaker 7 (46:08):
All right, What do we got.
Speaker 9 (46:09):
I say that the Dallas Cowboys will go further into
playoffs than the San Francisco forty nine ers. Do you
accept that challenge?
Speaker 7 (46:17):
You know what, I will accept that challenge.
Speaker 11 (46:19):
Let's have some fun with that okay that I think
the forty nine ers will go further anyway.
Speaker 4 (46:22):
All right, I.
Speaker 9 (46:24):
Knew you would accept that challenge, Kanama red Cap, But
where do you find this guy?
Speaker 5 (46:27):
It's too easy.
Speaker 9 (46:28):
It's like luring a rat out with smelly cheese.
Speaker 2 (46:30):
Uh, Luciano, he's from Brooklyn.
Speaker 7 (46:32):
That's right, fellow Brooklyn guy. Yeah, I love the accent.
Speaker 9 (46:35):
Yeah. So I lured them out with a smelly cheese
and he took it just like I thought he would. Todd,
how can you accept the deal that appears to be
so one sided in your favor, that is to the
detriment of a good front of the show like myself.
Speaker 7 (46:48):
Oh, I see what you're doing there.
Speaker 11 (46:50):
Either way, it's gonna be a lot of fun, but
hopefully you will be on the receiving end of a
pie in the week's end.
Speaker 2 (46:54):
Is that it's talk.
Speaker 9 (46:57):
And I'll take and I'll take it. But I'm just
letting you know you coming off like a certified stupid
gure right now.
Speaker 7 (47:03):
Yeah, let's make sure you send that video of you
with the pie in the face. We need the video.
Speaker 9 (47:08):
I wouldn't be in any hervey to do any climbs
around Todd guys, I'm just letting you know that right now,
all ask copoll sa here you go. You want the
question right now? Or don't have time to break police balls?
Speaker 2 (47:18):
Oh you can break police ball? Sure?
Speaker 9 (47:20):
All right, PAULI. Hey, look, last week you were giving
tourist advice about Chicago. You made a comment about a
bad area capital then, aswers you, Paulie, how do you
know when you're in the bad area? And you, because
you're hyper intelligent, you defer to Marvin King. Marvin being
a nice guy, he's inclined to give the nice guy answer,
not because he's incapable of articulating it properly, but because
(47:42):
this colloquial lexicon it might offend the FCC. So, since
Marvin is always kind enough to translate for me, to
let me translate for him, what he was saying is, first,
there's no such thing as the bad area is called
the hood, or if you want to church it up,
you can call it an economically stressed area. Not to
answer your taple to answer your question right, the way
(48:05):
you know when you're in the economically stressed area is
if you find yourself face to face with someone wearing
a non COVID mask, and they're relieving you of your possessions. Okay,
And Paulie, if you ever want to understand that organic
excitement and fear of being relieved in your possessions comes
to Brooklyn and I can arrange for somebody to give
you totrrio.
Speaker 2 (48:25):
All right, all right, all right, no threats here, No threats,
thank you. Lucia who not sure what we learned there?
Just don't go where Luciano.
Speaker 7 (48:38):
Is entertainingly frightening everything.
Speaker 2 (48:42):
It seems to get edgier and edgier. Yeah, you're not nervous,
are you?
Speaker 5 (48:49):
Mark?
Speaker 4 (48:51):
Am I nervous? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (48:52):
No?
Speaker 4 (48:52):
No, no, if I'm on his good side, no, I'm
not nervous.
Speaker 2 (48:54):
Okay, Paulie needs to be nervous now.
Speaker 4 (49:00):
Ever never okay?
Speaker 2 (49:04):
Yeah, Seaton, are you poised to uh offer something here?
I don't know how that call was presented to Tyler
funny too, because I don't know.
Speaker 6 (49:18):
I don't know if what Luciano had to say to
paul was the point or if there was still a
bet involved that we never got to.
Speaker 2 (49:25):
But that's I had to cut you know, one on
a long due to time. I mean, you have to
get to your.
Speaker 6 (49:30):
Remember that guy last week we called there was like,
this is obviously a huge mistake because he.
Speaker 2 (49:35):
Just kept going on and on he couldn't land the plane,
and then he self edited himself like obviously this is
a bad idea. Yes, all right, when we come back,
got a new poll question and is it a foregone
conclusion who's going to win the Heisman. We'll have that
for you when we come back. Dan Patrick Shaw
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