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May 30, 2024 44 mins

On today's Dan Patrick Show, NBA on TNT's Adam Lefkoe joins us and tries his best not to get in trouble. DP and Lefkoe discussed the future of NBA on TNT, the possibility of JJ Redick becoming the next head coach of the Los Angeles Lakers, and LeBron James' future in L.A. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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cities that carry this program. All right, Seaton poll question,
what are we going to settle with first hour?

Speaker 4 (01:30):
Well, Paul just sent one over. Better job in professional
sports head coach or a general manager.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
Well, I got a little bit more job security as
a general manager because more and more, sooner than later,
we're blaming the head coach. It just feels like it
used to be that you had stability and you were
you're very prideful that your coach had been there for
a while. Now you can look around the league and
there are a few of these coaches, you know, Tylu

(01:58):
The Clippers just signed him up up making him one
of the highest paid coaches. You have Eric Spolstra, who
might be the best head coach in the NBA. Greg
Popovich still, you know, at an elite level with what
he's done in San Antonio. So you're trying to get stability,
but you can't have stability if you don't have that
at the coaching position. Because a coach comes in, then

(02:21):
he's going to change his offense, change his defense players
he wants in, players that he may not want. Then
you have turnover again. That's why when you look at
success with a lot of players, it's really difficult to
be great if you don't have stability with your head coach.
Let's start with Patrick Mahomes in Kansas City stability. Tom

(02:43):
Brady had that in New England. Stability, Peyton Manning when
he had Tony Dungee in Indianapolis. Stability. Having that is
just such a great advantage, a weapon, because when you
see what happened in Chicago with Justin Field. If you're
going to bring in somebody in a different offensive coordinator,

(03:03):
it's difficult. The job is difficult enough. Now you bring
in somebody who has a different philosophy, and hopefully Caleb
Williams is able to have Matt Eberflus as his head
coach for a while. Now, I don't know if he'll
last that long. Then you have another person coming in
head coach, his philosophy, he likes to do it this

(03:24):
way offensive coordinator. Same thing with managers in baseball. Having
that guy, you know, I always love Terry Frankcona, because
I just thought he was one of the great managers
in the history of the game, and he managed in
a different style. Then all of a sudden, he's a
players manager. Well they thrive, they survive, They you know,

(03:44):
end up ending the curse, all of the great things
that he did in Boston. But then, well, the players
are taking advantage of it. You know, he's too nice
to him. Now you ship him out to Cleveland, and
he did a wonderful job in Cleveland as well. But
having that person who's always there. If I'm a player,
then I know what he's saying. Now, you can wear
out your welcome. Pat Riley wore out his welcome with

(04:06):
the Lakers. He was very difficult on them, but they
played at a very high level, a championship level. But
after a while, today's player tunes you out. But I
would hope that you get more than one or two years.
But we've seen that with the Lakers you get two years,
the Sons you get one year. JJ Reddick may be
coming in. How many years does he get And you're

(04:29):
looking at the coaching expectancy, your shelf life, it's not long.
It's really difficult to hold onto a job. It feels
like for over a decade in one place. And that's
the problem that we have with a lot of these
athletes is they don't develop correctly because they don't have
that stability. So I'd want to be a GM because

(04:53):
I can hold onto that job. It's like, you'd never
blame the GM until he might make a trade. Doesn't
make it trade a bad draft pick. But the coach,
the coach is the one who's going to get blamed
because we see the results. Well, you got to blame him.
He's at the press conference. GM's not always showing up,
you know, his media availability is probably limited for a reason.

(05:14):
But being a GM, yeah, I'm a little bit more secure.
There's some insulation there in the house.

Speaker 5 (05:22):
Yes, Paulie, Well, being a GM, you think you got
all the power. You're in control, You choose the coach.
Do you think anything, any part of it would bother
you that the coach gets all the credit, Like the
Kansasity chiefs Andy Reids, the face beyond the players, the
face of the team going to the Hall of Fame,
all that stuff. Brett Veach is the GM. If you
don't know a lot about football, you don't know who

(05:42):
he is, and he could walk around casually without being bothered.
Do you think the lack of credit or notoriety would
bother you.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
I'd have to know a case by case situation. I
don't think you could put a blanket over that. And
I don't know if Jerry West it, you know, it
mattered to Jerry being a g that hey, Phil Jackson's
getting all the credit or somebody else is getting all
the credit. I don't know if raht Aarbach when he
became the GM of the Celtics, was bothered that Casey

(06:11):
Jones or Tommy Heinzen was getting more credit there. I
think it'd be a case by kse situation. But you know,
Ron Wolf is a Hall of Fame GM, and I'd
like that. You know, these sports are now expanding who
they consider to be Hall of famers. Ron Wolf's a
Hall of famer. Ret Veach, what he's done in Kansas
City should be considered a Hall of Famer. I don't

(06:34):
know how many gms. Bill Pollyan I think is in
the Hall of Fame as a GM. I don't know
how many gms are in the Hall of Fame. Ron
Wolf I believe is as well. But when you consider
building a team, that's how you build a team, having
a great GM who's able to go. This is how
we're going to do it. These are the players. I
like this player. We're going to sign that player. We're

(06:56):
going to release that player. We'll let Tyreek Hill go
to Miami. We'll bring in some half picks here. Yes.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
See.

Speaker 4 (07:02):
That's why you know when people say winning is hard,
you know, it's like after you've won, sometimes it's the
hardest part because that's when everybody has their hand out
for credit. Yeah, players want money, executives want credit.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
It's the head coach who did it. Well, it's really
the GM who put the players. But the owner is
the guy who signs the check.

Speaker 4 (07:20):
So all of a sudden, everybody's like no, no, no, no, no,
this is the team that I built. I'm the one
who did it. You need the right mix of people
to not do that.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
And there's certain franchises teams where the owners love to
take a victory lap, and some take a victory lap
and they haven't won anything in thirty years. But you know,
Robert Kraft got around to be in a celebrity like
he was all a great owner, doesn't get in the way,
you don't hear anything. Then all of a sudden we
go behind the curtain, and all of a sudden we

(07:49):
realized there was some real friction there for over a decade.
And then he's out in front like, Hey, Meek mill
is my friend. Hey I'm I'm gonna be at the rows.
I I'm I'm you know, Robert Kraft, me and Meek. Yes,
the fanatics, white party, Yeah, everybody's in all white, and yes,
me too. But you do have owners who do like

(08:11):
that credit. You know, Mark Cuban's always their courtside. Yeah,
you know, he's he's there and he'll take a victory lap.
But I think that's also interesting as well. Certain franchises
don't do that, you know, the Steeler organization, it's not
like they're taking victory laps. The Giants organization when they
were winning. You know, certain organizations like they keep it

(08:33):
this is my job, this is what I do. And
if a coach gets out there, I still go back
to one of the stranger moments I had. There was
a trophy ceremony when the Spurs won the Western Conference finals.
Tim Duncan was there and they were going to go
play in the NBA Finals, and I remember Popovich wanted
nothing to do with the trophy ceremony. Nothing. And you know,

(08:56):
I'm hosting it. I'm trying to get him to come up.
He's like, nope, it's about them. Didn't want any credit.
I mean, he's still one of the more elusive coaches
that I've ever been involved with in you know, forty years.
He just doesn't. He doesn't care. You know, it's not
his job. He doesn't. He's not there to sell anything.
But he's also not saying, hey, what about me, I'm

(09:18):
a I'm a pretty good coach here. Yeah, Paul, he
wanted to worry about any trophy or not. Wow. Wow,
he's snarky. He can take can take it all, right,
So he he didn't want to go up. So we're
never getting great Baba Vinjehn for sure. Doubly. Yeah, man, Okay,
if he had the over under at ten minutes for snark,

(09:39):
it's right at ten minutes. In about fifteen seconds, he
dishes it out. Yeah he does.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
He editioned it out.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
I thank god it was never a sideline reporter coach.
What do you think of their Amanda Man defense, because
you know he would have just seen you and just
licking his job. Oh yeah, absolutely, he would have immediately.
Oh yeah, okay, both barrels, Patrick, Yeah, let me hear.
How great a shooter you are? Okay talking hair do?

(10:07):
Yeah yeah, which is a sign of respect.

Speaker 4 (10:10):
If he's gonna crap on you, yeah, I guess maybe,
unless they do it on live TV, then it's not
that's not true.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
It's not fun. He has, Paul.

Speaker 5 (10:18):
If you had to be any GM all time, it's
got to be theo Epstein. Right, you got titles with
the Red Sox and a title with the Cubs. That's
a that's the walk off. I mean, well, unless he
joins the Cleveland Indians or whatever they're called these days
and gets one there, that's unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
Well, I'd say Jerry West and Red Arbach with what they.

Speaker 5 (10:39):
Did, Jerry did two franchises.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
Yeah, but I would say with Jerry Man, that's he
had pretty good run there and read what he did.
I mean like, there's certain guys if they called, I
wouldn't pick up the foot I would tell my secretary
if you get a Boston area code or an LA
area code, don't pickup because if it's Jerry west Or

(11:02):
Red Arbanc I'm gonna get fleeced. I don't know how,
but somehow I'm gonna get fleeced. Yeah, line one, mister Arbach.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
I'm not I'm not here.

Speaker 6 (11:13):
No, no, no, yes, Mark, these days, Sam Presty seems
like that guy where he's a really famous GM for sure.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
Yeah, but he's just gotten draft picks. Now. I got
the Shay Gilgis Alexander trade with you know, Paul George
and got draft picks there. He just came out and
admit it. He never should have brought in Gordon Hayward.

Speaker 4 (11:34):
I was just gonna say, a man of kind. I've
been meaning to bring that up. Yes, Gordon Hayward, Sam
Presty thing is so interesting port you know Gordon Hayward.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
He's like, hey, I'm trending what happened. Uh Yeah, the
GM said that he made a mistake bringing you into
Oklahoma City.

Speaker 4 (11:49):
Well he hasn't exactly been shy either about like, you know,
this isn't what I thought it was gonna be. I've
he's been very vocal about coming here with a mistake
because I thought I was going to be you know,
a piece of the puzzle. But what was the quote
he had, like this train's already moving and it's like
hard to jump on.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
See.

Speaker 4 (12:06):
He said something like that. How often do you get
a player being like this was a mistake and the
GM being like, yeah, yeah, it was no offense, but yeah, yeah, yes.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
Huh.

Speaker 6 (12:16):
Can't you allude on either side of that to poor
decisions without actually saying somebody by name? You know, I'm
sure everybody could figure it out, especially someone that covers
the team regularly, but you have to actually say the person.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
I just don't think that's necessary.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
Thank you, ton, I thought it was great.

Speaker 4 (12:30):
I mean when the person themselves is the one talking
about it first.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Yeah, you're acknowledging it, you're co signing on it, like, hey,
Gordon's right, man, I never should have brought him in.
It was the wrong situation for him, and it isn't.

Speaker 4 (12:42):
I don't think that they didn't get the sense they
were doing it like to be rude or anything.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
They were like, hey, you know what are bad?

Speaker 4 (12:48):
Like he's a good player and he deserves to play more,
but we just don't have space for him.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
Yes.

Speaker 5 (12:52):
Paul Gordon Hayward this year with Oklahoma City averaged five
point five points per game and limited action and made
third three million.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Yeah no, yeh a boy. Yeah, but you can't look
at salaries anymore in the NBA because everybody makes, you know,
twenty five thirty million. I mean you do get some
guys that I'll see, Oh he's signed a two year
deal for ten million dollars. I go ten million dollars
each season? No, no, total attention. I'm like, wow, what's

(13:21):
it like to go into the locker room and you
got somebody who's making you know, ten million first half
of the season, no, first month of the season, and
then you're making ten million over two years. Just the
disparity sometimes in these contracts is crazy.

Speaker 6 (13:36):
Yes, Mark, in your experience, have you ever seen teams
that play a certain guy that's not as good as
somebody else but they have to because of the contracts.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
Yes, or because they drafted somebody high. That's happened many,
many times. And players know, players know before anybody else
knows if somebody can play. And that's where it's frustrating,
because you have players that, hey, I'm better than that guy,
but they got to save face by playing that guy

(14:04):
because they took him with a first round draft pick. Weird.
What other pole questions are you thinking? By the way,
ninety nine days until opening night of the NFL, we
will look at some of the interesting contract situations that
are gonna happen this year. All right, see what else
do you?

Speaker 3 (14:22):
Well?

Speaker 2 (14:22):
I have some poll questions off of the contract situation. Okay, well,
why didn't you hold that? Save Ben? Save it? Anything else?

Speaker 4 (14:32):
I have a more likely this NFL season dot dot
dot pole question.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
Let's save that save it?

Speaker 4 (14:38):
You know what I was actually gonna We sort of
threw it in last minute, but I'm gonna put up
uh Lebron James most involved in JJ Reddick getting the
Lakers job or his son getting drafted.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
We didn't give that enough du Yes, Oh, okay, that's that.
One's a lot of fun too. Okay, so we're gonna
start with a couple for hour one, but you could
also do over or Interesting Minnesota Dallas tonight? Is it
over or is it just getting interesting? Fire? I think
it's just getting interesting. Here's something for you. Anthony Edwards

(15:11):
is the key to the Timberwolves, but so far in
the playoffs, the Timberwolves are seven and one. When this
player scores at least eighteen points, they're two and five
when he doesn't. If you said Karl Anthony Towns, you
would be correct. Changing the game. He he is changing
the game. The best shooting big man of all time.

(15:33):
According to Karl Anthony Towns, what stead of a day?

Speaker 3 (15:40):
Stall a day, Stata a day, Stana day. This is
the style of the day.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
In case you're wondering what's the over under Carl Anthony
Towns points tonight. Well that for you coming up after
the break? Come on, can't well after the break? Good
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Speaker 2 (16:50):
Give us an update on poll questions and results there
seeing if you can, uh, yeah, of course.

Speaker 4 (16:55):
Right now we've got MAV Timberwolves. Is dot dot dot
over or interesting?

Speaker 2 (17:00):
Right now? Sixty four percent of the audience have that
series is over? Okay over.

Speaker 4 (17:05):
Lebron James is most involved in either getting JJ Reddick
the Lakers gig or getting a Sun drafted. That's at
eighty one percent. He's more involved in getting a Sun drafted.
And the better job in professional sports head coach of
GMGM is absolutely destroying head coach.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
All right, fair enough, all right. My goal is to
get Adam left Coo in trouble. He works NBA on TNT.
Inside the NBA, he hosts on Tuesday night co host
of The Big Podcast with Shack and left co joins us, Now, okay,
are there things we can't talk about with the NBA
on TNT.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
I've been prepped, you know, oh really, Todd well, because
Todd was like, Hey'd love to have you come on
and talk about the Western Conference finals, and I was
like sure, Todd, I was like, I'm sure. You want
to break down how Derek Lively has one hundred and
eight dunks and Klieba only has six and his impact
on the glass is a huge difference. No, I think, Look,

(18:02):
I know how you work, Okay, we know how this goes.
You got you got Charles out here. When Charles came
on your show, I jokingly hit up a PR person
and I said, those talking points you gave him were great.
I can't believe you just told him to say those things.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
Yes, he went scorched earth there and uh, but you
know what, Charles can't really get in trouble. Yeah, you're
You're a dad of a newborn that's six months old,
and I want you to keep that job at least
for another year.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
I thought about that. You know how people like to
say that's above my pay grade?

Speaker 2 (18:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (18:35):
Is it above? Is anything above Charles's pay grade?

Speaker 7 (18:38):
No?

Speaker 3 (18:38):
I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
No. No, Okay, what have you been told about the
future of the NBA on TNT after this next season?

Speaker 3 (18:47):
So okay, I can. I can because I was sitting
in the makeup chair yesterday getting ready for a show
on True TV, and some of the higher up people
were there and they just said, listen, it's not over.
We're still talking to them. We're still I mean, you
still have Zaslov talking to Adam Silver. They're still really,
really trying. That's what I'm being told. I think that,

(19:12):
you know, very early on I removed I tried to
remove a lot of my emotion from this, and part
of it was I was talking to my agent and
he said, I don't think people realize that if another
network is going to do this, first of all, TND
Sports can match, but they need to get all of
the paperwork done before there's a match. And that's when

(19:33):
my brain went, oh, I don't think lawyers have ever
rushed through paperwork and gotten rid of billable hours so
that that T and D can match really quick. And
so that's what I thought. Has been funny this entire
time has been all of these reports where it's done,
and then the new media cycle right now of there's

(19:58):
a sources, and then that turns into an image of
the inside guys with the text that says it's over
and there's no context and there's no reporting, and it
just snowballs really quickly. That has been the part there.
But in terms of the NBA on TNT next year,
I'm being told that they're doing everything they can right
now to make sure that that happened.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
And how do you kick Ernie Johnson to the curb?
So then you take what's the game plan to do that?

Speaker 3 (20:28):
You are really a peach, aren't you. One of the
greatest joys of my life is sitting and watching inside
the NBA. And so I'm the sick go cause you know,
media people dan as soon as they can leave, they
go home. For me, Like if I'm hosting a show

(20:50):
at seven and then Inside starts at seven thirty, I
sit on the set and watch with the makeup people
and the production people, and then Shuck will be like, hey, Adam,
who do you like in the game tonight? And then
Shack's like, where'd you get that hoodie? And then I
go in the back and I order dinner and I
watch with them, and then Ernie comes in and goes, kid,

(21:11):
what are you still doing here? And then I am like, yes,
now I get my six minutes of Ernie time before
he goes into his bunker and starts working. And so
it's one of the greatest thrills of my life to
be for him to be my colleague. I don't think
that he's replaceable. I think that that those four on

(21:32):
inside the NBA, the love that they have for each other,
the camaraderie they have, the talent they have. I think
I always hear inside compared to college game day, and
with all due respect to college game day, I think
that the spectacle of game day is the is the
circus and the fact that each week you move to
a new city, thousands of kids show up. What are

(21:54):
the signs going to be? How do they pull it off?
That's crazy? Inside is four use at a desk. Those
two things. You need a circus to compete with these
four men. And I think that I still learn from
Ernie every day. My father and my grandfather are my
personal heroes, but Ernie has been my professional mentor and

(22:19):
someone that anytime that I either get too high or
too low, I look at steady Ernie and I realize
he's the guy. And so for me. Look, I've had
a lot of cool talks with him about the future
and stuff like that, but to even think about that
would make me sick.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
He's Adam Lefko NBA on TNT Inside the NBA host
on Tuesday. He's been part of the Western Conference Finals
alt cast that's on True TV and streaming on Max. Yeah.
It's hard to replicate something. You're in a sterile environment NBA.
Inside the NBA, whereas college game day you have a
lot of bells and whistles, and we probably remember the

(22:59):
atmosphere more than what the analysts say more on game
day than we do inside the NBA, because you guys
do have props, and you know, guys get hit with
a pie, or somebody falls down, or the Christmas tree
gets knocked down, but still you're remembering the exchanges that
they have. It'll live on it just it'll live on
maybe elsewhere, but hopefully. If I'm a TV executive, I'm

(23:23):
just taking that show and then I plug it in,
plug and play, or as I said to Shack, or
I said to Charles, just do it yourself. I mean,
you've got a production company, just do it yourself.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
I'm going to tell Chuck that you confused him for Shack,
and I cannot wait for his reaction because that is
that's just going to be peachy. I can't imagine the
NBA without inside the NBA. And I think that I've
watched every other NBA show try to be inside the NBA.
I have seen them. Let's laugh more, you know, let's

(24:00):
let's have a gimmick. And the thing that you need
to realize is that none of it is planned.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
Your left go you bring up something great, and I
remember when I was at the mother Ship that all
else fails. Laugh. And you see some of these shows
where not everything's that funny, And when I watch Charles
and Shack Kenny Ernie, not everything's funny, and even the
awkwardness of that's not funny. We're not going to force

(24:29):
a laugh. I admire that because a lot of these
pregame shows in the NFL, it's somebody says something that
you go, haa, You're like, who laughs?

Speaker 3 (24:38):
Like that?

Speaker 2 (24:38):
In real life?

Speaker 3 (24:39):
Nothing over nothing, Daniel Jones better have a good game.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
Who knows.

Speaker 3 (24:45):
You're sitting there and you're like that was ridiculous because
they're they're they're trying to make good TV, and they
they don't realize that good TV is being in the moment.
I don't. I don't think I've said this to you before.
I Andrew Schultz is a comedian that's on the rise.
He's incredible. He was so good during the Tom Brady roast.
And I was at a friend's house and some of

(25:05):
his close writer comedian friends were there and when they
found out that I did the NBA on TNT, one
of them was like, do you realize that that show
is comedy perfected? And they don't even realize it. And
I said, how is Ernie comedy? Like I would love
to hear how Ernie's comedy? And he said that comedy
is about breaking a line and breaking the rules, and

(25:29):
Ernie is the rules. And so when Chuck goes, when
Kenny goes, what'd you say about San Antonio women? And
then Ernie goes, don't say it, don't say it? When
Chuck says it, oh he said it. But when I
watched these other shows, it's like, oh, say it again,
do it again, be louder. And they don't realize that

(25:52):
SNEL is great because you have a crazy person and
a straight man and someone is not laughing, you know
what I mean. And Ernie, he is undoubtedly knows about it.
He calls himself the worst traffic cop ever, but he
creates the boundaries that they break. And it's like, that's
why the ages there are so great, because Shaq gets

(26:13):
to be fifteen again because Ernie to him is still Grandpa.
Ernie to me unlike Shaq, you're double my age, like
you shouldn't be shaving your eyebrows and putting women's hair
extensions on your forehead. But he gets to be a
kid again, and that's why it's so sweet.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
All right, a couple of things, all right, Seaton give
lefgo poll questions here. Let's start with Minnesota Dallas over,
over or interesting or interesting.

Speaker 3 (26:43):
I think that I will be watching the injury reports
and if Derek Lively is out again, it is very
interesting because I just thought the end of the game
him not being in the middle of the floor as
either the lob threat or the guy they can pass,
to the fact that Draymond Green had to tell Daniel Gafford, Hey,
when you get the ball, you can pass it back out.

(27:04):
That stuff that Lively has already figured out as a rookie.
And so I thought it was interesting in the last
game that Minnesota finally answered the call late. I don't
know if they can replicate Karl Anthony Towns hitting those
threes again. That seems kind of unlikely, but we're in Minnesota,
and I think it's very interesting if you go to

(27:24):
a game six a year after we had Boston come
back from down three?

Speaker 2 (27:28):
You all right, Lebron James Pole question?

Speaker 4 (27:32):
Yeah, is he most involved in getting JJ Reddick to
the Lakers or getting his son drafted?

Speaker 3 (27:40):
They are sure saying a lot that they're not involved
in the coaching hire. They sure are. I think that
Lebron would. I think Lebron knows if he tries to
play with his son, there are still factions that will go,
that's adorable. And when those pictures come out, people will go,
who wouldn't want to play with their son? I think
the GM the Lebron that I control, I think he's

(28:04):
trying to really get away from that. We had Rich
Paul on one of our altcasts and he just came
out and categorically denied that he's involved. Does the podcast
continue if it's JJ Reddick? Do they just start bringing
up like the podcast makes it so much funnier that
they were sitting here and they're like drinking wine together

(28:24):
and then all of a sudden, JJ's leading timeouts. I
have talked to a number of former NBA players, whether
it's like around the studios or out, and they all
want JJ to get it. They're not rooting against him,
but they want him to get a taste, and they
want because everybody thinks they can be a coach. Like

(28:44):
you guys are talking about better job. I think that's
the next one. GM. By the way, ten times better job.
You draft a quarterback, you draft a new player, and
you get three years at it. I've seen coaches, Oh
Lovey Smith, you get Jamis Winston, doesn't matter, You're gone
the next year.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
But I but do you think people want Reddick to
get humbled?

Speaker 3 (29:07):
Yes? I think they do because I still think they
look at JJ Reddick as Duke JJ Reddick. Yeah. I
still think that that's there, and JJ has been someone.
It's his tone that I think throws a lot of
people off. He's so confident, he's so convincing. He immediately
is like, you guys don't understand, let me teach you basketball.

(29:28):
And I think for the people that know basketball, even
though he might not be talking to them, they're like,
miss me with that. And so what a tough job
to start off with. Oh my gosh, good luck.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
Yeah, but I've said this many times on the show.
I mean Lebron has manicured his career. Everything he does
he does with purpose. He's in their strategy. Why would
you at the end of your career all of a
sudden not want to be involved with maybe the last
two years of your career. In who's going to be

(30:03):
your head coach? I don't know if you can go, hey,
whoever you hire. I just I can't believe that.

Speaker 3 (30:11):
Two things. One, I thought it was very interesting on
our cast that unprompted Rich Paul went Lebron's a free agent.
He has not declined his player option yet, and so
that to me is very fascinating because Lebron loves to
become a free agent. When he says I want this, this,
and this to happen, that's usually how he gets control.

(30:32):
Second thing I found interesting is that you're setting Lebron's
career over ununder at two and a half years, and
I would probably take the over because when you're dropping
twenty eight, seven and seven, I haven't seen the decline.
And in this new age of we don't play back
to backs, we don't play four games in five days,

(30:52):
we no longer look down on sitting games. I kind
of think he can keep extending this.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
He has to win. He can have all the stats
in the world. It's this is all time greatness. And
if he's going to continue to play for a team
that could be you know, the Pelicans. I mean, the
Lakers and the Pelicans are probably very similar in talent
and result. Is Lebron gonna want to continue to be

(31:20):
involved in something like that where you're not The West
is gonna be stacked again next year? What makes you
believe that the Lakers are all of a sudden gonna
go you know what, where the team to be or
one of the teams.

Speaker 3 (31:32):
That's more likely Lebron under two and a half years
in the NBA or Lebron over one half, over one
and a half teams he plays for for the rest
of his career. Like you're talking about playing for a
new team, don't You can't get any wins in retirement.

(31:54):
You can win zero championships in retirement. And if Lebron
goes off into the sunset being like I just don't
see championships in my future, Jordan would never do Jordan,
You know what, I respect the fact that Jordan went
to Washington at least tried he at least tried to
within with those guys.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
Okay, n and his career as a Laker, I don't
think so.

Speaker 3 (32:17):
Okay, this is completely conjecture. I just I think what
you're saying. What I agree with you is I look
at the makeup of the Lakers and I go, I
don't know if it's happening there. You know, we've we've
seen this a few times. I don't think it's gonna happen.
I don't know if it's Cleveland come to Philly, MAXI mbat.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
Can we stopped all of a sudden, Philadelphia's getting Jimmy
Butler again, Paul George Lebron like we've done this before.

Speaker 3 (32:46):
All yeah, Oh well, because this is the make or
break year. Look, I grew up a Sixers fan. This
is the make or break year. We've been hearing about
the year of cap space for five years. This will
be the first season in wh's Tobias Harris or I
got this from the rights to Ricky Sanje's podcast. Tobias
Harris or Juliel okafor are not on the roster in

(33:09):
like a decade, So it's all free. The only contract
there is like EMBIID and when they resigned, Maxie, it's
it's this is the time. This is why you brought
in Maury three years ago. And if you don't Land
a Paul George, a Lebron or a Jimmy Butler, and
you're sitting there being like, we're gonna bring back Kelly
Ubra and a bunch of role players that ain't gonna

(33:33):
cut it.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
Well, it's not gonna cut it. I would worry about
embiid looking around going look, I went through everything. Yes,
I was injured first couple of years, but you know
the process, and I've been a constant. You know, maybe
it's time for me to leave.

Speaker 3 (33:48):
Sounds like him and Lebron have a lot in common.
Maybe they should talk to each other. Lebron and Philly
would actually be awful, and I would actually hate it
because Philly, if they ever started booing Lebron, that like
first segment on Sports Center, would be crazy.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
Oh my, do you think you got in trouble during
this conversation?

Speaker 3 (34:12):
Did you get in trouble for not getting me in trouble?

Speaker 2 (34:15):
No, because I'm my boss.

Speaker 3 (34:17):
Did Todd get in trouble? The funniest thing about getting
booked on the show is that when Todd puts out
the guests and the people on Twitter are like one guest,
way to work today, Todd, idiot.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
Thanks.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
I've never seen a booker like who's the one of
the best, if not the best bookers in the business.
People are openly like way to give effort today. Nobody
else gets that.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
No, they love you, they don't. But then nobody takes
more victory laps when they do get a couple of
guests like Todd does, does he yes? Yes?

Speaker 3 (34:54):
Does he ever pop champagne for himself? Costas?

Speaker 2 (34:57):
Yeah? But there are times when I do Todd, I said,
you know, I booked this guy, and then he'll go,
that's fair, that's fair, that's fair.

Speaker 3 (35:05):
What would you say is Todd's best book in the
history of the show, Like the one where it was like,
I can't believe you.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
Got uh Seaton, I'll ask you you got one. It's
been so long, Wow, Wow, hanging up. I just have
to go.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
Back Kelly in nineteen ninety four.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
Wait, you got Dan Bickley from the Arizona Republic. Kevin Moss,
I remember who do you got?

Speaker 5 (35:34):
Paulie left go Do you remember a long time ago,
like oh, seven o eight when they were talking about
trading Kobe Bryant to the Bulls and it was a
big topic. Fritzy got that week at the end of
the week. He got Kobe to call in and put
the topic a little bit to bed and that was
a monster.

Speaker 3 (35:50):
At the time.

Speaker 5 (35:51):
So it was at the time and the week before
he got Beckham in his first American radio interview.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
Oh wow, Yeah, that's a long time ago, two thousand
and seven. Yeah, that's that's seventeen years. Hell of a
year though, yeah that was that was a hell of
a week, not a hell of a year. Yeah, yeah,
what a great vintage. All right, Well, hello you guys. Hey,
thanks for joining us, and good luck, good luck with

(36:19):
your future.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
Thanks, and uh, you know, if I need to if
it sounds like you guys might need a booker, and I.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
Know people, if you would like to fill in on
this show, we'd be more than happy to have you
sit in here.

Speaker 7 (36:33):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (36:34):
Yeah, okay, now I have chills and now I need
to go run around the block some true stuff.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
Yeah, this way you could replace Ernie and you can
replace me.

Speaker 3 (36:44):
All right, goodbye, all right, thank you.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
That's Adam. That's Adam Lefo NBA on TNT inside the
NBA part of the Western Conference Finals old cast that's
on True TV and streaming on Max. We'll take a
break back.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
After this, be sure to catch the live edition of
The and Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six
am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAP.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
You're gonna sing marv no.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
No.

Speaker 6 (37:21):
You love these bands, don't you, These pop punk bands
of the mid aughts. They're so amazing.

Speaker 3 (37:27):
My mom and dad want me to do right.

Speaker 6 (37:29):
I'm not gonna waste my toy and be in a
catch to solety.

Speaker 3 (37:32):
Tell me what to do.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
Dad, you're a jerk and I'm like, oh you have
a dad.

Speaker 3 (37:35):
Good for you.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
Score.

Speaker 6 (37:37):
Yeah, we're going to beat sucks.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
Yeah. Yeah. We're surrounded by houses that cost five million dollars.
I gotta get out of here. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (37:47):
There's like this me there and it's like, uh, the
town they're all trying to escape is like like the
wealthiest zip codes.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
In the country.

Speaker 5 (37:54):
Don't underestimate the rough side of Mission Viejo, California. Dad,
not on my watch.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
Stat of the Day Roger by Panini America, the official
trading cards of this program, Less crap town and go
someplace real. Yeah, just me and my girl. Last call
for phone calls. See I understood Springsteen when he said,
you know, we gotta we gotta get out of this
town now, he was getting out of Asbury Park. You
can't tell me to go to college. You want me

(38:22):
to do right? Yeah, to a degree forced me to
be a doctor. Yeah, you want me to go to Princeton.
No way, I'm going to community college there, like in
New York City, Staceys Mo. God it going on.

Speaker 6 (38:42):
Oh, the teenage angst era is just amazing. You see
suburban moms and dads driving to golf kids. You know what,
I got a full tank of gas and we're hitting
the road. I drive one thousand miles to be with you.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
Right now, there's this day in sports history. I don't
know if you habit, Paul, but it is awesome, and
I forgot all about it. So I'm gonna have you
give me this day in sports history.

Speaker 5 (39:07):
Okay, I got a bunch. Bobby Low eighteen ninety four,
first player to hit four home runs in a game.
The Indianapolis five hundred was called the Indiana Sweepstakes Indianpol
Sweet six back in nineteen.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
Again, I'm just sorrying to see it. Indiana Sweepstakes.

Speaker 5 (39:21):
Yeah, five hundred mile race became the Indiana five hundred.
Max Flack and cliff He's coat of the Cardinals were
traded for each other between games of a doubleheader. They
played one game for each team. Bay Ruth played his
final game in nineteen thirty five. Over Right, nineteen seventy,
voting for Baseball's All Star Games returned to the fans.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
Here's a good one.

Speaker 5 (39:42):
The La Dodgers became the quickest to a million people
in the stands in the nineteen eighty one season in
twenty two games. That was a year of Fernando Velops.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
Okay, this day in sports history, that's the most important one.
Nineteen forty six, Carvel Bama Roll hit a ball that
shattered the Bulova clock located atop Ebbittsfield scoreboard. The ball
stayed inside the clock, and Roll was awarded a double.

(40:12):
That hit is believed to be the inspiration for Roy
Hobbs home run in the novel The Natural. I did
not know that. Nineteen forty six Bama Roll and that
was at Ebbitts Field hit a ball into the scoreboard.
They only gave him a double. Hey, let's see Doney
in South Dakota.

Speaker 8 (40:31):
Hi DONI Hi Dan, thanks for taking my phone call. Sure,
I am sixty one five eleven and one sixty tight
one sixty five. Hey, I love when you have left Coon,
I really do. He's great. But there's two things that
irritate me when he posts inside the NBA. And that's

(40:56):
the first one. It's like, you know, after he gets
done there reducing everybody, and you go and I'm left coo,
you know, just you know, to me, it just seems
so pretentious. But the second thing is is Dad dropped
the turtle neck. No I O. Goodness, he's got a
big toursol and it does look like a turtle.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
All right, thank you, Tony. All right. So he likes
left goo, but he doesn't like left goo that turn neck.
And the fact that he says that I'm left go. Well,
everybody's trying to find their signature, how they look, how
they sound. We love Leftgo. Very talented. Uh Connor in

(41:37):
South Carolina, Hi Connor, Good.

Speaker 9 (41:41):
Morning, Dan, first time listener, longtime caller checking in at
a six to one and a Beer League Softball two
oh five. Also a member of the Dead Dead Dad's Club. There. Okay,
on the ever electric topic of great quarterbacks, we'd be
remiss to not mention Sam Darnold. Of course, or as

(42:02):
we like to call him, Donald Schwarzenegger in my circle.
So in the fantasy football group chat, I'm in as
any well adjusted thirty nine year old male should be
a part of We've come up with a theory on
Sam Darnald. So let me preface this by saying we
have zero intimate knowledge of the kind of person Sam is. Nevertheless,

(42:25):
we still live by a code that we like to
refer to as WWSDD. So that's going to be what
would Sam Darnald do? And we've created a completely false
narrative about Sam and his greatness. For instance, Sam always
returns his stray shopping carts to the parking lot return area.

(42:46):
Sam also tips a minimum twenty five percent on takeout.
It's just who he is. Sam has never missed a
great God bless you on any audible sneeze within earshot.
And of course Sam always brings fresh home baked goods

(43:07):
for all of his teammates on the first day of
training camp. So I think that we could all stand
to be a little bit more like Sam Darnold. So
I am inviting you and the Danette and your oil listeners.
As Commissioner of the Columbia fantasy football group to help
us bring the wwsdd slogan to the masses.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
All right, well'connor, thank you and we appreciate your time.
Hopefully you need to get out a little bit more,
maybe you get a hobby.

Speaker 5 (43:38):
I wean appreciate less time.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
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