June 25, 2024 • 50 mins
On today's Dan Patrick Show, Florida Panthers Radio Color Analyst Bill Lindsay describes the emotions of Florida Panthers fans after an amazing Game 7 win. Los Angeles Lakers Reporter Khobi Price stops by to recap JJ Redick's introductory press conference. And Co-Host of “The Big Show with Rusic and Rose” Matty Rose joins us for a victory lap after the Edmonton Oilers fell short of hockey glory.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Obviously, you guys know Ross Tucker in for Dan, the
former NFL offensive lineman, a long time ago journeyman. Pretty
cool temp job in my twenties. Instead, I had an
awesome night. So like a lot of people listening or watching,
you know, I've got a wife and young kids. I
gotta be honest with you, guys. It was kind of nice.
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After the show yesterday, I went home, I took an
awesome nap, I got up from the nap, I had
an incredible workout, and then I had an apple pecan
salad lovely, and I had some of the chocolate covered
pretzels that were gifted to me by Fritz yesterday. And
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then I watched a straight hour of College Baseball World
Series at Tennessee, tex A, and m just in my
hotel room, bed in my underwear, nobody to bother me,
didn't have to worry about it, and then the hockey
came on. Now, I will say this about the hockey.
I don't think the game went until like eight twenty five.
(01:10):
I think they got a good twenty five minutes there
of pregame. But it was good Alana's Moris set. We
got to get into that. By the way, I only
ever bought two CDs in my whole life, and one
of them was Jagged Little Pill by Alana's Morris Set.
But I think it's rare, first of all, for an adult,
like most of the people that are listening to us
on all the Fox Sports radio affiliates or people watching
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us on Peacock. It's kind of rare, isn't it for
an adult, you know, mid forties, to just have an
entire night like that by yourself, to do whatever you want,
whenever you want to watch it, and to have two
game clinching situations, two titles on the line, and by
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the way, they both end up being good games. I mean, look,
I feel like in those situations a lot of times
one or both games could have been a blowout. Instead
the agg he's from Texas, A and M They rally
to come back and they almost win it. They lose
six ' five against Tennessee. Who has this awesome relief
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pitcher who I guarantee I want to see in concert
as a country singer in like eight years. I think
his name's kirby'connell. No chance, he's not opening for Luke
Colmbs in four years. There's no If he's not playing
professional baseball, that guy is going to be a country
singer talking about when I won the balls, the first
national championship and all the ladies I got as a result.
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By the way, he's from Johnson City, which I think
what I think in the one Morgan Wallens song, I
think he talks about no Jefferson City. Maybe I don't know,
they're all the same.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Johnson City's referenced in a wagon wheel by Darius Rucker,
and it's many other people have done wagons.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Yeah, yeah, so and then and then the huh the
hockey was just awesome. The hockey was you know, I'll
give the worldwide leader a tip of the cap. First
of all, Steve Levy, Messier and PK Suban, they're fantastic.
And then that feature they had on the guy that
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keeps all of his white gloves. He's never actually touched
the cup. PAULI just whispered his name to me. How
do you know the guy's name?
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Phil Pritchard, the keeper of the Cup. He's been in
studio before. He's had the same haircut since like eighth grade.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
It's unbelievable. His haircut is unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
He's a great guy. He's been in studio. He handles
the cup. He travels around the country. He takes the
place as he's responsible for it. He has multiple pairs
of white gloves.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Well, he has thousands of white gloves. He wears a
new pair every time, I think, and he saves all
of them. I feel like that would be pretty valuable
memorabilia to have the white gloves from when your team
got the cup that night and then in the game.
You know, if you were not sure whether or not
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you were gonna you were up for this, Like if
you were not sure whether you're gonna watch the entire
Stanley Cup Final Game seven. They scored two goals in
the first seven minutes. I mean the Panthers score like
five minutes in, and then two minutes later the Oilers scored,
and it was like, oh, it is on now, there's
only one more goal the whole rest of the game. However,
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the entire game, we were one shot away from the
outcome changing it like three to one, you can like
get up to go to the bathroom. Three to one,
you can go get water. When it's two to one,
You're like, wait a minute, No, no, Like, I'm not
missing this. I've been watching this for an hour and
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a half. I Am not gonna go refill my water
right now. I'll wait till the next commercial break, or
I'll wait till the intermission. I'm not Like, if there's
a goal that ties it at two to two, or
there's a goal that breaks the one one time, I'm
not missing that seaton.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
That's what I kind of love about scores like that.
Like in hockey, if you're down by two goals, the
game is over. You score one more and you're right
back in it, you know what I mean, all right,
we're back now. We could do this, you know. But
if you're down by two, well it's over. We can't
do anything about this. Well, wait one more, now we're
in it. You know, just the whole mindset changes.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Paul I wish I knew more about the nuance of hockey,
like what their strategy was against the Oilers, the Panther strategy,
because it felt like they were in some type of
defense where they just clogged up the goal the entire time.
I know that standard procedure and everything like that, but
every time McDavid or anyone from the Oilers got a
play towards the goal. It's like a stick would fly
up and they catch on and they never got a
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clean look. It felt like they never the Oilers never
got a clean look at the goal.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
See now, I thought, from my very juvenile vantage point,
I thought the Panthers were the better team for the
first two periods. Maybe for period in like three quarters
it was very I mean they were holding on in
that last period. There were a bunch of chances, and
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I know we'll get into Connor McDavid winning the cons
My Trophy, and that's actually what I'm looking forward to.
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we're going to get into Connor David winning the cons
My Trophy a little bit later on the show, and
there's a lot to get to there. I will just
say this, if you go back and watch some of
the highlights they showed he had I don't know, three
or four passes in the third period, second third period
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that could have been goals. In fact, if you watch
right before the go ahead goal by Reinhardt from the Panthers,
the Oilers had a better chance to score. The puck
was like slowly going past the crease and there was
no guy there to be able to tap it in
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for the Oilers. So I know there's a lot of
talk about McDavid not scoring last night, a lot of
talk about the cons my stuff, and we'll get into that,
but I think he played a little bit better than
people realize. That's the thing too, that's so tough about hockey.
I feel like in basketball, you can like clear out
and give the ball to Michael Jordan or give the
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ball to Lebron and it's like, Okay, they're either going
to score or you have to clearly go double team
them and then maybe they can pass it to the
open man and John Paxent or Steve Kerr, or I'll
throw a little Craig Hodges in there, we'll make the
open jumper. Hockey doesn't really work that.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Way because the line changes. The line changes like mcdamid.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
So you can't just like they. I know in the
NBA you can play now and so that's a little
bit different. But in hockey it's not like And also,
you have to get the ball past you have to
get the ball, you have to get the puck past
the blue line. It's not like they can just like
throw the ball to Connor McDavid and then run a
clear out and he can ice that one. By the way,
if they could do that, he would score about a
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zillion goals because he's unbelievable. But you can't. I feel
like one guy as good as McDavid is, I feel
like one guy can't totally take over like they theoretically
could in the NBA, Like where Steph Curry's just making
thirty foot threes. It's like, Okay, what are you gonna
do at this point? Is that fair? Yeah? If how
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do you have a hockey guy take over? You can't
just give him the puck and say everybody else rest
resort to clear out for McDavid.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Yeah, I'm sure this plays. They get it some, but
I think it's more so the shift changes. What does
he spend twenty two minutes on ice in the entire game,
you know, like he's got a.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
You can't and they had him on a lot at
the end and he was totally gassed.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
There's maybe a minute twenty left and the announcers even
saying like they can't do a shift change right now.
Everyone's just trying to get up the ice.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
The lactic acid that had built in for those guys.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
But you know what's my one of my favorite things
the timing of pulling the goalie. Maybe it is maybe
a minute ten minute twenty left and the goaltender sitting
there and he's kind of inching out, but he can't
leave too early. They got to make sure the puck
is clear, and he just fails to the to the sidelines.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
It's just I think it's I wonder if there's any
type of research or data as to when you pull
the goalie, Like why do they always do it like
a little over a minute. I mean, are you more
risky and you pull them like with two minutes.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
If you're down two goals, you'll pull them even earlier.
I saw that. I think the Panthers did a couple
of games ago.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
But do you think that's just like a coach's intuition?
And gut reaction. You think they have data that says
this is the optimal time to pull your goalie seating.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
They have to have some kind of data just because
just as much like I don't know the risk reward
of that right, you have to have that kind of
data where all the team on the other team has
to do is win the puck back and fire it
down the ice.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
And there's probably I thought we.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Were getting chance. I thought we were gonna get empty
that goal because yeah, a couple they tried a couple
of times.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
That one that was slowly making its way down. You're like, dang,
that's gonna go in. Yeah, I mean I would imagine
that they have that down to an exact science or
wells as close as you can.
Speaker 5 (10:25):
You know, a lot of.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Stuff to get into today, by the way, which will
be awesome. We're gonna have Bill Lindsay, who is the
Florida Panthers radio analyst. He's gonna be first up, as
are on our guest list today from Fritzy, longtime Florida Panther.
You know what I love about Bill Lindsay, Like I
was reading the bio on him. Not only did he
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play in the NHLF for like fifteen years, but when
he was done, he didn't played two more years in Germany.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
Hockey guys, can you imagine a.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Guy playing twelve years in the NFL and then like
for the last two years, like you know, I'm gonna
I'm gonna go.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Play in the CFL like Yarmi Yaker.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
That would never happen, Like hockey guys, I mean, how
much money. I'm gonna ask Bill how much money he
made in the German league his last years, or if
he just wanted to be over there for Octoberfest, or
what the deal was. We're gonna get into the Connor
McDavid winning the con smythe because there's so many interesting
things there about a losing team player winning the MVP.
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But it's also it's not just for the Stanley Cup finals,
for the whole playoffs, so we'll get into that. The
calend of Panthers. While we're talking Panthers look like they're
getting a new stadium or a least stadium renovations, public money.
Until he's a hot topic. The Lakers introed JJ Reddick
yesterday and he was dropping f bombs. He does not care.
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He is very clear that he does not care what
people say about him, So then let's talk about him.
If he doesn't care about what people say about him,
of course we'll get the play of the day stat
of the day. What we learned a lot to get to.
I did get a text last night from a number
that was not in my phone and it just said Elation.
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And I was just I got text message right when
the game ended. It said Elation and I was just
about to immediately hit the delete and report as junk
because I'm like, what is this? And then a couple
seconds later, this is Mattie Rose from Calgary, great talking.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
Yes, you know I thought about all night it was.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
It was Mattie Rose, the radio host from Calgary, or
as Polly likes to say, Calgary, that joined us on
yesterday's show. I am fascinated by this element. I didn't
care that much, but I wanted Edmonton to win. I
wanted it for those people. And yet here's another guy
from Alberta. You would think that they want to bring
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the cup. Nope, Elation, that Florida one. See.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
I love that Kachuck in the post game was like
he's like, you know, just lift the Stanley Cuppy.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
He's like, oh my god, we did it.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
We won, And he says in his interview he's just like,
and you know, shout out to all my Calgary fans.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
You know I couldn't let Edmonton win.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Oh he said that.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
Yeah, in the like he just won.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Stanley CuPy just did it and he was like, yeah,
shout out to Calgary. You know I wouldn't let them win.
I was like, God, this rivalry is great. I mean,
I don't he played there. I think for a bit so.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Dingy like forced his way, Like I don't. I don't
follow hockey, you know, fact check me on this, but like,
didn't he make it clear he didn't want to play
there anymore?
Speaker 5 (13:32):
I think probably?
Speaker 4 (13:33):
However, in that moment, he was like, shout out to
my day ones. You guys have been with me and
you knew I wasn't gonna let them win.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Yeah, Kachuck was that. I started his career there. I
played six years there.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
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sometimes it's just easier to just read one of your
tweets to me than it is to take a call.
We just have the time for it to hit me
up at Ross Tucker NFL. Of course we're live on
Peacock Fox Sports Radio, a million affiliates. I do know
there's a bunch of people that get a chance to
listen to the full show later on via podcast, which
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is awesome, as you guys know, I've got one of
those as well, Ross Tucker Football Podcast. I can guarantee
you I will not say one word about the Stanley
Cup Final or JJ Reddick or College World Series on that.
That is a football only show. Really looking forward to
talking with Bill Lindsay, the Florida Panthers radio analyst. There's
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just so much stuff to get to from last night.
The NBA Draft is tomorrow night. I have not heard
one person say one thing about the NBA Draft being
tomorrow night other than and it's like the line from
Major League, Who the bleep are these guys? You know?
That's basically what people are saying about tomorrow night's NBA Draft.
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Speaker 2 (16:16):
We are going to get back to a little bit
of hockey talk a little bit later in the show,
we might have to check in with our guy Matty Rose,
who's gloating in Calgary since he doesn't have to deal
with the hated Edmonton Oilers winning the Cup and bringing
it back to Canada for the first time in thirty
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one years. But there was big news in the NBA
yesterday in the sense that JJ Reddick had his opening
press conference, and you know, it could have been one
of those press conferences as the new head coach of
the Lakers that nothing eventful happens, nobody really talks about it.
And a lot of times when people have a press conference,
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that's the goal. Sometimes when they have a press conference,
that's not the goal. Sometimes when they have a press conference,
they want to send a message, and I would say
JJ at least sent one message when he was asked
about the outside noise regarding his lack of experience in
getting the head coaching position in LA.
Speaker 7 (17:20):
What misconceptions or concerns about you that you've heard in
the last few weeks are you most like looking forward
to dispelling.
Speaker 8 (17:30):
It's a valid question, and I've certainly heard everything. You know,
it's It's been a really interesting six weeks or so
just in terms of, you know, being part of the
engagement farming industry. You know, it's been really interesting. However,
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I don't really have a great answer for your question
because I really don't give up. Like, honestly, I want
to coach the Lakers. I want to coach the team.
I don't want to dispel anything. I don't. I want
to become a great coach in the NBA, and I
want to win championships and I want my players to
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maximize their careers.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
That's all I care about. JJ Reddick. You know, I'll
tell you The part about that I appreciate is when
he said I see everything, because so often people are like,
I don't read that stuff. I don't hear or read
that stuff. You know what Bill Plashki writes about me,
I don't care. That doesn't matter. I don't ever see that. Well,
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how did you know he wrote something about you.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
I'm a big boy and swearing doesn't bother me. I'm
not like, oh he swore, I'm offended, But I was
a little surprised that he went that way in his
first Laker interview. He was the first Laker press converence
that you know, if it really didn't bother him, he
would have maybe blown off the question a little bit,
and he knows it's coming. He has no doubt that
questions coming.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Well, hold that thought, because I think there's a lot
there that I want to get into with you guys
as it relates to not just JJ Reddick dropping the
F bomb a couple times, but just in general. I
don't ever remember athletes ever saying the F word after
a game, and now you hear it more and more.
It's kind of become more common. I don't know if
that's like something with the people in their twenties or thirties. Now,
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I feel like I'm like that old guy. I can't
believe these kids are using the F word these days.
We'll get in that a little bit later. I want
to first talk to Kobe Price, because Kobe covers the
Lakers for the Southern California News Group. He was at
the press conference yesterday, and so I guess I'll just
start with that. Kobe. I appreciate you coming on the show,
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just your initial reaction to JJ's press conference in general,
just sort of the tone of it.
Speaker 9 (19:51):
Yeah, Well, first off, thank you for having me on.
I really appreciate it. But just the general tone of
the press conference, you know, maybe's the tone, but.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Like you know, he won the day. He won.
Speaker 9 (20:01):
The press conference, he did everything he sells to do
with the Lakers starts to do yesterday, and it was
very much just a lot of talking about for thinking,
innovation and how, yes, this JJ higher is unorthodox, but
that's kind of what the Lakers are going for, especially
in this modern NBA where the CBA is going to
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require different, you know, different from teams in terms of
how they build out their rosters. So the tone was
optimistic and hopeful, especially and that was kind of necessary
considering that JJ is not a typical NBA head coach
in terms of his resume and what his prior experience.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
But the general themes in.
Speaker 9 (20:42):
The general move was just one of optimism, hopeful and
just you know, an eagerness to see how this will
all unfold. I think I think that's the best way
to describe it.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Kobe. What was your reaction to the answer he gave
that we just played. I know you could hear that
where he say he doesn't give half. What what was
your thoughts on the language that he used in the
way in which he said it. Uh.
Speaker 9 (21:07):
First off, as soon as he said it, it's weird
how this happens. Like in my brain, I just thought,
I know this is going to go viral. Like there's
no chance that this is not but viral. This would
be shared across social media within ten minutes, and it's
going to be a big hit. Maybe I'm part of
I've heard you what you were saying. You couldn't believe
all these twenty and thirty year old athletes who are
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cursing all the time now dropping the boul Maybe I'm
one of them. It kind of didn't phaze me that much.
I was just like, oh, okay, well that's kind of me.
I think also kind of shows his personality. I think
sometimes you're when you're in these press conference modes, you know,
they're so buttoned up and they want to get you know,
all these things right. But I think there was a
level of authenticity from JJ. You've got really got your
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first personality and maybe how he'll communicate, which we obviously
saw in his podcast and you know, down the line
and being a player for fifteen plus years including college.
But I wasn't too much phased by it, I think.
I know some people were a little confused by the
answer or why he chose to drop the F bomb
at that moment, but I think it just showed kind
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of him in essence. So for me, I was just like,
all right, there you go.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
He said it.
Speaker 9 (22:19):
And I think even Rob, I mean, I don't know
if it got picked up by the audio on the mics,
but even Rob was like, there you go, yeah, there
it is so.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Kobe, if you don't mind me asking, hell, old are
you twenty seven? Okay? Do you think, like for you
and your age group, does that endear JJ to you?
Do you think it was cool that he dropped the
F bomb that it will now be a five second
clip that's on TikTok and Instagram reels and all that stuff.
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Does that ingratiate JJ With a younger audience, it probably does.
Speaker 9 (22:56):
I mean for me personally, I don't know whether it's
cool or not. I'm not offended by it. I'll say
that it doesn't bother me. I can understand why I
would bother people, but for me person doesn't bother me.
But I definitely think that for a younger audience, for
people maybe more around like my group, It is like
a cooler edgier, you know, when you appear to not
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be as buttoned up or if you don't like the
obviously he's wearing a students hide, but the symbol of
a students high when you don't apeel that way, it
does help you probably within it, it does help you
with the younger audience. So yeah, I think he probably
won some clote unquote cool points.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
With that talk with Kobe probably who covers the Lakers
for the Southern California News Group. So, what do you
think the plan is now, Kobe? Starting with the draft
tomorrow night. And I know there's been so much conversation
about Brownie James. What do you think that Lakers are
going to try to do to give JJ Reddick the
best chance to have success with this roster.
Speaker 9 (23:54):
Yeah, I know we spoke about it obviously during the
press conferences today, the draft was brought up a little bit,
and yeah, so he Rob was asked about, you know,
potentially trading you know, for you know, bigger star player
or even a couple of smaller moves, and Rob acknowledged
that if the perfect trade lines up, obviously it would
make a move. But in the modern NBA especially, I
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brought it up earlier the CBA. Some of these trades
are going to be harder to make, and a big,
a big talking point from yesterday was player development, the
emphasis they're going to put on player development. So with that,
you know, two days later, it would be maybe not surprising,
but a little bit off the theme of yesterday if
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they did try to, you know, acquire bigger player, I
would expect for them to even if they traded up,
traded down, I would expect for them to use the
first round draft pick on a you know, on a
draft prospect and bring that player in onto their roster.
Briannie James obviously is the big talking point for for
good reason, for big reason. He would be more more
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so a second round opportunity for the Lakers more than
likely on Thursday. So and the Lakers don't have their
peek until the second round pick until later in the
second round. So maybe he was there, and maybe he's not.
I know there's some other teams are interested. But if
if Ronnie's there for the Lakers, I believe at fifty
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five in the second round, I would be very surprised
if they passed up on him.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Didn't he say he didn't want to play with his dad,
like he wanted to do his own thing. What did
he say? I forget.
Speaker 9 (25:31):
I can't remember exactly the quote, but I don't I
think he said something along the lines of it wasn't
something that he necessarily wanted or sought after. I don't
think he's necessarily said he didn't want it, but I
don't think he said that. That's something like that that
wasn't a goal, If that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Got it? Kobe? Really appreciate the time. Thank you so
much for coming on the show. Oh appreciate you having
me on there. He is Kobe Price covers the Lakers
for the Southern California News Group. You know, it's funny.
I'm just sitting here thinking, guys, I was always kind
of taught, or I look at things right, like when
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I'm talking in general, but especially in public, would I
want my grandma? Like? What would my grandmas think of
what I'm saying? And what would my kids think? I
don't know if JJ Reddick has kids or not. My
daughters are twelve and almost eleven. My grandmas have passed
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at this point. But I guess I just think I'm
not like some prude. I've used the F word. People
use the F word all the time, but I guess
I just think in an opening press conference. I don't know.
I guess I sometimes think of the usage of that word.
(26:52):
I've heard it said that it demonstrates a lack of
intelligence when there are people that swear all the time
because they can't find a different or better word to
express what they're trying to get across. My thing is
just you, you are setting the tone. And I think he
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did that on purpose. I think he did that intentionally.
I think that was the tone he wanted to set,
and that's how he wanted to represent himself. And I
guess more power to him. I don't know. It seems
like his brand is almost like being defiant. His brand
is about I don't give a you know what? Marv.
Speaker 7 (27:40):
Yeah, I feel like the chip is on his shoulder,
like he has a big chip on his shoulder. And
even like Paulie was just saying, like he always comes
off like condescending, like on First Take and on other
ESPN platforms, it's like, you guys don't know. If you
listen to Mind the Game podcast with Lebron, it's those
two are like Oh good, Finally somebody that I can
talk to about basketball that actually knows the game. So
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it kind of kind of came off that way too,
when people are questioning his experience and things like that.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Which is so interesting because part of what you're doing
as a broadcaster, it's broadcasting. It's not narrow casting. You're
you're trying to explain the game to the common person
so that they can learn it better and understand more.
What is going on? I don't know. I mean, do
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you guys have a big problem with it?
Speaker 6 (28:32):
You think that?
Speaker 2 (28:33):
I mean, Kobe said he won the day, he won
the day. Do we think he won the day because
he was confident or because of the things he said?
Or do we think he won the day because he
used the F word saying I don't give a F.
And as a result, it went viral and people are like, yeah,
he doesn't give an F. Seaton.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
Well, I say this as a cursor, right, I have
a foul mouth. I don't do it like if I'm
out around strangers, I don't really curse all that much.
But if I'm in an environment that I'm comfortable, like
certainly around here, I curse a lot, you know, because
I just I do.
Speaker 8 (29:07):
I have.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
It's not a great thing I have noticed. I wish
that I didn't curse as much, but I do, Okay.
I think if you think about JJ Reddick, the moments
that he's most known for in his media career, it's
that same type of energy or attitude. It's when he's
on first take and he's like, dude, you don't know
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anything about basketball, okay, because I played and I did
all that, and he's telling people that they're a bunch
of idiots because they don't know what they're talking at right,
Steven A, you don't even know what you're talking about
because you don't know basketball. And I know that you
know what I mean. He Those are his moments that
resonated the most over the last year or two, but
however long his media career has been, so I think
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that that attitude is not really surprising. That he had
the same attitude in his first day as the Lakers
head coach. But you do think that once you get
to a job like the Lakers head coach, you have
a certain amount of confidence that you don't have to
worry about that stuff anymore.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Whatever happened to just kind of being classy, just being
professional and classy. What do you mean in terms of
the way, in terms of the way you conduct yourself
and handle yourself. I don't know. I mean it just
that doesn't come across as that to me.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
PAULI yeah, I agree that. Again, the language part was unnecessary,
and I'll obviously calculated by him. But I do think
a lot of fans of any tea, whether it's the
Lakers or any team that gets a new coach, wants
to hear a coach come in at the press conmence
with some bravado, yes, some cockiness, like I'm gonna get
us there, I'm that's what you want to hear. You know,
when Jim Harbaugh went to the Chargers, people are like, hey,
this guy comes in. He's not I'm not here to
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go eight, you know, nine and eight my first, He's
I'm here to win it all. And that's what you
want to hear.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Remember when Lovey Smith got the Bears job, He's like
number one goal to beat the Packers. You mean, like
people want to hear that part of it. Marv.
Speaker 7 (30:56):
If you if you cover the Lakers, like Kobe when
you heard you know what JJ Redick said, are you
super excited because you know, every single night I'm gonna
get some type of quote from this guy. Like just
from a content point of Vieweah, yeah, yeah, Okay.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
I think listen, Kobe Price does not come on the
number one sports talk radio show in the country, the
Dan Patrick Show today if JJ Reddick doesn't say the
F word twice yesterday. I mean so on some level,
what JJ Reddick did worked and it worked out for
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Kobe Seaton.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
Some of those things that we're talking about, like you
have to come out with this right attitude and you
have to I get that.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
A lot of that.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
Some of it is super formulaic too, Like if you
are hired as the Ohio State head football coach, what
is the very first thing you have to say, Man,
we're gonna beat Michigan on October fifteenth or whenever they
play right team up north, yeah, or the team up
north right, whatever it is.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (31:57):
You have to make some reference on how and.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
I'm coming in here with the one mission is to
beat those guys whatever, right, Okay, check the box. Now
you did it. It used to like mean something Now
it's just part of the formula.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Can you imagine if the guy came in is like, yeah,
I just don't think it's as big a rivalry as
everybody else says.
Speaker 5 (32:14):
I'm here to get national championships. If we beat that
other team, I don't really care.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
I mean Michigan. Yeah, it's not that big a deal.
People would lose their mind. I'm curious. I don't know
if there's a poll question or we can just take
some calls about it eight seven seven three DP Show
or hit me up on social media at Ross Tucker,
NFL at DP Show. I am a little curious though,
to see what the public reaction is to JJ Reddick
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dropping a couple f bombs. Love it, hate it, don't
care somewhere in the middle forty four minutes past the
hour here on The Dan Patrick Show.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
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Speaker 2 (32:59):
Final hour on a Tucker Tuesday, Ross Tucker again in
the Big Chair. Tomorrow will be my last day this week,
filling in for Dan, who's on a family VACA. And
all I can think about was the joy of victory
and the agony of defeat. Last night. You know, the
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contrast is just ridiculous. I'm watching and we actually before
the show, Paully had some of the video that we
were checking out. The Panthers players throwing off their gloves,
taking off their helmets, running onto the ice like their
eight year olds going to get ice cream. I mean,
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it was just the pure joy. Meanwhile, the looks on
the oilers' faces. And then the College World Series where
Tennessee wins it for the first time in school history.
They go out there, but by the way, you do
not want to be at the bottom of a dog
pile like that. I've been at the bottom one of
those piles one time. That's not a fun experience. You're
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you're like, get off of me now. I mean, you
get three or four dudes on top of you. That
is not a good feeling. So hopefully not on the
bottom and hopefully doesn't last too long. And then the
tax A and M players. You see those guys, they
it was like they were statues that they were just
(34:24):
staring out at the Tennessee guys celebrating. I think that's
an interesting phenomenon that I've never experienced, which is losing
that championship game it seems like the losing team they
could just leave. At least in baseball, the tex ay
(34:46):
and Maggie's could just leave. Hockey's a little different because
they have that end of series handshake, which, by the way,
that you know when you're like a high school football player,
the end of the game, you go there, you go,
good game, great game, great game, goread game, great game,
good game, great game. That's forced the end of series
(35:09):
hockey handshake line. It just seems so genuine and authentic.
It seems like Bill Lindsay, our guy that came. I
think it's one of the things I love so much
about hockey is just the authenticity of the guys. PAULI.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
It's one of those traditions. I can remember the first
time I saw it, I was, you know, probably a kid.
I was like, no one else does this. You don't
see baseball they run in pylon. Sometimes in baseball in
the World Series, a guy will be on the top
step a losing team and watch the painful celebration the
other team or football. I've seen some players they sit
there and watch. They want to yeah, they want to
be burned in their mind, but that's one of the
(35:50):
traditions that if it's not in your sport, it's never
going to be in your sport. You know, like football
is never going to say, like you know what NFL
players should do after the Super Bowl, let's line up.
It's never gonna happen. They rope you off hockey.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
They come flying out there with the ropes and you're
on the wrong side of them.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
He gives hockey players, especially for those who are casualt hockey,
when they watch the Stanley Cup Final, a new level
respect at the end when they see that if when
you see it for the first time.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
The eye contact did they make with each other, like
you could you could teach your kids the proper way
to shake someone's hand. They look at each other, they
give them a firm handshake, and you can tell they
say good job man, great great, great job man, Congratulations
Like that is awesome. There's so many awesome parts of hockey,
(36:33):
so many awesome parts of filling in for Dan, including
the unbelievable audience we have everybody watching on Peacock, all
of the folks listening on all the different Fox Sports
radio affiliates. I know a bunch of you guys that
maybe you listen to parts of the show while you're
in the car or whatever. You listen to the rest
(36:53):
on podcasts later. Please check out the Ross Tuck or
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dot com as well. We're gonna be joined by Maddie
Rose in a minute or two here to get the perspective.
(37:17):
We had them on yesterday and it was pretty awesome.
It wasn't mean spirited in any way, but it was
very clear that I think, you know, it's weird because
I don't like rooting for people to lose, but I
also appreciate the high level of I don't know what
(37:43):
agitation contempt that they have for each other between Edmonton
and Calgary. Paul.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Yeah, we've been talking about this going back to last week.
If you're Canadian and you're not a fan of the
Edmondson Oilers, does any part of your root for the
Oilers against the Panthers because Canada has been shut out
of a Stanley Cup their teams have for ninety three, rightee,
ninety three? Is there any part of you that would
like to see your rival tople the American team.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
And what's interesting about that is, like, so, the Flyers
have not won the Cup in a long long time,
the seventies. Okay, let's say it was reversed, and let's
say an American team hadn't won the Cup in thirty
years and the Canadians had been winning it all the time.
If it was like the Penguins in this Hand Cup final,
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I'm just telling you right now, not a single person
in Philadelphia would root for the Penguins, not a So like,
on the one end, we're like surprised that these guys
in Canada aren't rooting for the other Canadian teams. We
think they're nice and is this important for your country?
Don't you want to see them win? Meanwhile, if roles
were reversed and it was the Rangers or the Penguins,
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Flyers fans would watch it with intense pass rooting for
the Canadian team another country, a different country, as opposed
to like I said, there were more Americans rooting for
the Oilers last night, a higher percentage than there were Canadians.
Speaking of Americans, the best American athletes looked to punch
(39:19):
their tickets to the Paris Olympics. The US Olympic team
trials part of making Team USA. I looked at it
a little bit last night when I flipped over or
at NBC last night. It was the steeplechase, which is
my all time favorite. Why are you there's a track
(39:40):
where they run events and all of a sudden there's
an event where they have to jump over this thing
and avoid the water. What are we talking about now?
Speaker 3 (39:50):
That seems like really old school, Like it wasn't just
we were bored and the normal four hundred meters were
getting boring and let's throw in a big, you know
thing of water.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Can you imagine? Like you're in charge of getting the
new track together, and you know, you get it, get
to take up one and a half million dollars, and
you're like, well, don't forget. You need to get the
gate and the water and the hole for this deeple chase.
Like what we're trying to.
Speaker 5 (40:16):
Where do you want to put the hole in the water.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
Yeah, I don't even know where the hole in the
water and this deeple chase goes, I don't I don't
even know what the deal is.
Speaker 5 (40:26):
Don't forget the hole in the water.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
And by the way, nobody ever says in the history
of the world, nobody has ever said, when they're eight
years old, I uh, I just really want to be
the world's best steeplechase runner. Never that, whoever that person is.
They failed at what they were trying to do, like
whatever event they wanted to do, the one hundred meters
(40:50):
or whatever it was, they failed, and someone said, you
know what, nobody else wants to chase.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
You're leaving in a few days now. We're gonna have
the whole steeple chase contingent on our back.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
Can you name can anybody here name a single steeplechaser?
Does anybody here even really know what steeple chase is seton?
Speaker 5 (41:11):
You have two daughters, yes, either of them on a pony.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
Yes, there you go.
Speaker 5 (41:17):
Steeple chasers.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
Why there's no pony involved, isn't it.
Speaker 5 (41:21):
Oh isn't that the one with the with the horse?
Speaker 2 (41:24):
No, that's equestrian.
Speaker 5 (41:26):
Oh, what's the one where they jump over the things
and stuff?
Speaker 2 (41:29):
Horse jumping?
Speaker 5 (41:30):
Yeah, Oh, that's a steeple chase's stepchase.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
No steeple chase. They're actually running the long distance track.
And what they run for like they run around the
track like they run around the track like eight times.
Speaker 3 (41:43):
It's three thousand meters. It started in the nineteen twenty Olympics.
Uh oh yeah, there's twenty run through the puddles. Right,
there's twenty eight jump barriers and then there's a water
barriers that are three and a half meters long after
the jump. After like that, so.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
Then you're running around. You're running distance with wet sneakers.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
Wet sneakers.
Speaker 4 (42:05):
Yeah, who's this sounds like a lot of blisters to.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
Go back and watch. I guarantee the person that invented
this could not win any other event. Was like I
got to come up with something. I got to come
up with some way to win the gold medal.
Speaker 3 (42:22):
We'll keep an eye. We're gonna look for more details
of one people chaser.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
Orig I never even met a steeple chaser. It's on foot,
it's on foot, and they jump over into puddles and
they're like, oh he got he got good jump over
the puddle. That's what was on NBC last night. Where
do you practice that at the track where they just
got the brand new hole of water.
Speaker 5 (42:42):
I don't know, like any any street that you ever
run down as a kid.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
That's actually that had to be how it started, Like
you had to jump over a creek, probably up in Canada,
it's probably, although that wouldn't the creepy frozen in Canada.
And let's find out for Maddie Rose, he joined us
back to back? How many times does this happen, Paulie,
where you've had a guest back to back days? The
guy's never been on the show before. Okay, he's a
(43:06):
sports talk radio host in Calgary. You haven't had Larry
Bird on the show back to back days. You haven't
had anybody on the back yet. Maddie Rose gets to
be on the show back to back days. It's unique.
Can you guys stay Fritzi, you're the guest booker. Can
you ever think of another time where you've had a
guest back to back days? Not really?
Speaker 7 (43:26):
Maybe there was a time where there was just breaking
news with the same team two days in a row,
so we put the person back on, but can't think
of who that was?
Speaker 2 (43:33):
All right, Well, he texted me last night, Maddie, you
have no idea how close you got to getting reported
as junk because I have this text message that comes through.
It's take eleven o'clock and I just see a text
message elation and I'm like, elation from a four to
h three number. I think it was I didn't put
(43:54):
you in my phone, by way, I already deleted the text,
but I see like a four oh three number. And
then it's like, by the way, this is Matti Rose,
So explain that elation.
Speaker 8 (44:04):
Now.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
You literally went out of your way to text me
elation right when the game ended. Tell me about it.
Speaker 10 (44:08):
I had to tell everybody, everyone that would listen, how
relieved we were up in town for this to end
in a way that wasn't the oilers hosting the cop
and go in the reverse sweep, we saw so many
oilers jerseys wandering around town. I decided to stay at
home and watch the game because I wasn't sure how
it would behave publicly, and sure enough, we got the
result that we wanted. So everyone is feeling elated up here,
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like a big relief.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
That's the word, right, relief.
Speaker 10 (44:38):
Without a doubt, Like it was one of our kind
of topics on the show today. This relief that you're
feeling today is like what and a lot of people
were talking about, you know, when you finally make it home.
Maybe if you were, you know, clenching for like the
last thirty minutes of your drive home, things like that.
So people were very relieved that the Oilers were unable
(44:59):
to push this thing over the edge?
Speaker 2 (45:01):
Aren't you guys supposed to be? I feel like I
never knew Canadians were such haters. Why are you such
a hater?
Speaker 10 (45:08):
Yeah, but hockey makes us different likes. It's one of
those things that we all love and we all get
a little bit primal about. So I think that there's
a little bit of that gets involved. Plus the regional stuff.
You guys know what it's like down in the US
of all your US regional rivalries across the country, and
that's what we are here. If this was another Canadian team,
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it wouldn't have been as intense, we wouldn't have cared
nearly as much. But because this was the Oilers, it
was very important for this too not to go well
for Edmonton.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
What would it have been like today if Edmonton won
on the show? Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 10 (45:45):
I was really contemplating about maybe like skipping work if
they had won't starting to do job, getting into the trades,
picking up something like scaffolding. Perhaps, I don't know. It
was gonna be crazy like is Like I mentioned, we
saw so many oilers, jerseys and fans hanging around on
the streets yesterday filling up the bars like it was
(46:07):
one of those events that you couldn't get a table
in downtown Calgary if you were trying to watch the game.
So everybody was heavily invested. And every time that, you know,
even if you got buddies or they're not buddies, and
you know, you always want to have the upper hand
in those type of rivalries, and Calgary fans got to
enjoy it today. We didn't have to do the holes
sad look towards the parade, you know, raising Connor McDavid's bander.
(46:32):
We didn't have to do any of that today. So
that was that was relieving for sure.
Speaker 2 (46:36):
Talking with Mattie Rose, co host of The Big Show
with Russick and Rose on sports Net nine sixty in Calgary,
the radio home for the Calgary Flames. So checkuk. I
missed this, but he shouted you guys out after the game. Evident. Yeah,
I mean, I'm sure you played the audio on your
show today, So I'm a little bit confused. I thought
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he kind of for his way out, didn't he did?
He did he not want to be there? Explain to
me the Chikuk relationship with Calgary.
Speaker 10 (47:08):
This is one of those things where yes, he definitely
was he forced his way out. There was a whole
bunch of things that were like I think a lot
of people could point to maybe seasons earlier and why
he wasn't extended then and talk about things like that,
But that wasn't the case. So he ended up forcing
his hand to leave town. The team has obviously been
much worse for it, but I did think that there
(47:29):
are still some people who enjoyed his time here in Canada.
I think a lot of people look at Johnny Gudroau,
who left a free agency to Columbus, as kind of
maybe a worst case than Matthew could chuck and yesterday.
To me, like Matthew was a guy who understands how
to use the media. His dad played in the NHL.
He's got a lot of charisma, and that to me
(47:52):
was like a subtle shot at Edmonton. Well, also maybe
trying to get back in the good books of Calgary
Flames fans a little bit. So Yeah, people in Calgary
really loved that.
Speaker 2 (48:01):
What what did you think of Connor McDavid winning the
cons mice?
Speaker 10 (48:08):
Yeah, he was really good, Like he was the best
player of the postseason. You don't break Wayne Gritzky's records
and just kind of not be good doing that. So
he was outstanding wire to wire. Obviously, he didn't have
points in the last two games, and that's what a
lot of people are going to look at and say, well,
he gave the con smythe to a guy that okay,
his team was down three nothing and then he got
(48:29):
them back almost even. But he didn't really change much
after that. So there there was definitely some people here
in Calgary who were a little bit questionable about it.
But I think the thing that made it tough for
Florida was that they didn't necessarily have someone who kind
of took that step above everybody else on their team.
Like you could talk about Alexander Barkov for some games.
(48:50):
You could have talked about Sergey Bbrovski, you know, especially
up until game number three, but then he gets shelled
for five and twenty five minutes of action and you
can't really go on giving the CONTs might do a
guy who totally let the oilers back into the series.
So I was a little disappointed he didn't come out
to get it. That was disappointing. You know, it's the
first time since two thousand and three that someone has
won the con Smythe and not won the Stanley Cup
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at the same time. That was Jaya Shagear, who was
a goaltender. It was in New Jersey. He played for
the Ducks. He came out and he got the con
smithe even though he looked absolutely miserable doing it. So
that was one thing that I did kind of wonder
about with Connor. That was our other text topic today
is how lonely is the con Smythe Trophy because I
imagine he's still sitting in the middle of the rink
in Florida.
Speaker 2 (49:33):
MADDI really appreciate the time. We'll have you on again
when the Flames win the Cup.
Speaker 5 (49:37):
How about it, see you guys in like fifteen years.
Speaker 2 (49:40):
Cheers, Thank you, Maddie. Mattie Rose, co host of The
Big Show with Russik and Rose on sports Net nine
sixty in Calgary. I appreciate that. I also appreciate a
healthy conversation and I am starting with Setan because I'm
gonna make Seaton defend the sport of soccer when we
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return eighteen minutes past the hour here on The Dan
Patrick Show,
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Obviously, you guys know Ross Tucker in for Dan, the
former NFL offensive lineman, a long time ago journeyman. Pretty
cool temp job in my twenties. Instead, I had an
awesome night. So like a lot of people listening or watching,
you know, I've got a wife and young kids. I
gotta be honest with you, guys. It was kind of nice.
(00:26):
After the show yesterday, I went home, I took an
awesome nap, I got up from the nap, I had
an incredible workout, and then I had an apple pecan
salad lovely, and I had some of the chocolate covered
pretzels that were gifted to me by Fritz yesterday. And
(00:47):
then I watched a straight hour of College Baseball World
Series at Tennessee, tex A, and m just in my
hotel room, bed in my underwear, nobody to bother me,
didn't have to worry about it, and then the hockey
came on. Now, I will say this about the hockey.
I don't think the game went until like eight twenty five.
(01:10):
I think they got a good twenty five minutes there
of pregame. But it was good Alana's Moris set. We
got to get into that. By the way, I only
ever bought two CDs in my whole life, and one
of them was Jagged Little Pill by Alana's Morris Set.
But I think it's rare, first of all, for an adult,
like most of the people that are listening to us
on all the Fox Sports radio affiliates or people watching
(01:33):
us on Peacock. It's kind of rare, isn't it for
an adult, you know, mid forties, to just have an
entire night like that by yourself, to do whatever you want,
whenever you want to watch it, and to have two
game clinching situations, two titles on the line, and by
(01:57):
the way, they both end up being good games. I mean, look,
I feel like in those situations a lot of times
one or both games could have been a blowout. Instead
the agg he's from Texas, A and M They rally
to come back and they almost win it. They lose
six ' five against Tennessee. Who has this awesome relief
(02:17):
pitcher who I guarantee I want to see in concert
as a country singer in like eight years. I think
his name's kirby'connell. No chance, he's not opening for Luke
Colmbs in four years. There's no If he's not playing
professional baseball, that guy is going to be a country
singer talking about when I won the balls, the first
national championship and all the ladies I got as a result.
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By the way, he's from Johnson City, which I think
what I think in the one Morgan Wallens song, I
think he talks about no Jefferson City. Maybe I don't know,
they're all the same.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Johnson City's referenced in a wagon wheel by Darius Rucker,
and it's many other people have done wagons.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Yeah, yeah, so and then and then the huh the
hockey was just awesome. The hockey was you know, I'll
give the worldwide leader a tip of the cap. First
of all, Steve Levy, Messier and PK Suban, they're fantastic.
And then that feature they had on the guy that
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keeps all of his white gloves. He's never actually touched
the cup. PAULI just whispered his name to me. How
do you know the guy's name?
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Phil Pritchard, the keeper of the Cup. He's been in
studio before. He's had the same haircut since like eighth grade.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
It's unbelievable. His haircut is unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
He's a great guy. He's been in studio. He handles
the cup. He travels around the country. He takes the
place as he's responsible for it. He has multiple pairs
of white gloves.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Well, he has thousands of white gloves. He wears a
new pair every time, I think, and he saves all
of them. I feel like that would be pretty valuable
memorabilia to have the white gloves from when your team
got the cup that night and then in the game.
You know, if you were not sure whether or not
(04:05):
you were gonna you were up for this, Like if
you were not sure whether you're gonna watch the entire
Stanley Cup Final Game seven. They scored two goals in
the first seven minutes. I mean the Panthers score like
five minutes in, and then two minutes later the Oilers scored,
and it was like, oh, it is on now, there's
only one more goal the whole rest of the game. However,
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the entire game, we were one shot away from the
outcome changing it like three to one, you can like
get up to go to the bathroom. Three to one,
you can go get water. When it's two to one,
You're like, wait a minute, No, no, Like, I'm not
missing this. I've been watching this for an hour and
(04:49):
a half. I Am not gonna go refill my water
right now. I'll wait till the next commercial break, or
I'll wait till the intermission. I'm not Like, if there's
a goal that ties it at two to two, or
there's a goal that breaks the one one time, I'm
not missing that seaton.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
That's what I kind of love about scores like that.
Like in hockey, if you're down by two goals, the
game is over. You score one more and you're right
back in it, you know what I mean, all right,
we're back now. We could do this, you know. But
if you're down by two, well it's over. We can't
do anything about this. Well, wait one more, now we're
in it. You know, just the whole mindset changes.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Paul I wish I knew more about the nuance of hockey,
like what their strategy was against the Oilers, the Panther strategy,
because it felt like they were in some type of
defense where they just clogged up the goal the entire time.
I know that standard procedure and everything like that, but
every time McDavid or anyone from the Oilers got a
play towards the goal. It's like a stick would fly
up and they catch on and they never got a
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clean look. It felt like they never the Oilers never
got a clean look at the goal.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
See now, I thought, from my very juvenile vantage point,
I thought the Panthers were the better team for the
first two periods. Maybe for period in like three quarters
it was very I mean they were holding on in
that last period. There were a bunch of chances, and
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I know we'll get into Connor McDavid winning the cons
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we're going to get into Connor David winning the cons
My Trophy a little bit later on the show, and
there's a lot to get to there. I will just
say this, if you go back and watch some of
the highlights they showed he had I don't know, three
or four passes in the third period, second third period
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that could have been goals. In fact, if you watch
right before the go ahead goal by Reinhardt from the Panthers,
the Oilers had a better chance to score. The puck
was like slowly going past the crease and there was
no guy there to be able to tap it in
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for the Oilers. So I know there's a lot of
talk about McDavid not scoring last night, a lot of
talk about the cons my stuff, and we'll get into that,
but I think he played a little bit better than
people realize. That's the thing too, that's so tough about hockey.
I feel like in basketball, you can like clear out
and give the ball to Michael Jordan or give the
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ball to Lebron and it's like, Okay, they're either going
to score or you have to clearly go double team
them and then maybe they can pass it to the
open man and John Paxent or Steve Kerr, or I'll
throw a little Craig Hodges in there, we'll make the
open jumper. Hockey doesn't really work that.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Way because the line changes. The line changes like mcdamid.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
So you can't just like they. I know in the
NBA you can play now and so that's a little
bit different. But in hockey it's not like And also,
you have to get the ball past you have to
get the ball, you have to get the puck past
the blue line. It's not like they can just like
throw the ball to Connor McDavid and then run a
clear out and he can ice that one. By the way,
if they could do that, he would score about a
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zillion goals because he's unbelievable. But you can't. I feel
like one guy as good as McDavid is, I feel
like one guy can't totally take over like they theoretically
could in the NBA, Like where Steph Curry's just making
thirty foot threes. It's like, Okay, what are you gonna
do at this point? Is that fair? Yeah? If how
(08:39):
do you have a hockey guy take over? You can't
just give him the puck and say everybody else rest
resort to clear out for McDavid.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Yeah, I'm sure this plays. They get it some, but
I think it's more so the shift changes. What does
he spend twenty two minutes on ice in the entire game,
you know, like he's got a.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
You can't and they had him on a lot at
the end and he was totally gassed.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
There's maybe a minute twenty left and the announcers even
saying like they can't do a shift change right now.
Everyone's just trying to get up the ice.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
The lactic acid that had built in for those guys.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
But you know what's my one of my favorite things
the timing of pulling the goalie. Maybe it is maybe
a minute ten minute twenty left and the goaltender sitting
there and he's kind of inching out, but he can't
leave too early. They got to make sure the puck
is clear, and he just fails to the to the sidelines.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
It's just I think it's I wonder if there's any
type of research or data as to when you pull
the goalie, Like why do they always do it like
a little over a minute. I mean, are you more
risky and you pull them like with two minutes.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
If you're down two goals, you'll pull them even earlier.
I saw that. I think the Panthers did a couple
of games ago.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
But do you think that's just like a coach's intuition?
And gut reaction. You think they have data that says
this is the optimal time to pull your goalie seating.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
They have to have some kind of data just because
just as much like I don't know the risk reward
of that right, you have to have that kind of
data where all the team on the other team has
to do is win the puck back and fire it
down the ice.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
And there's probably I thought we.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Were getting chance. I thought we were gonna get empty
that goal because yeah, a couple they tried a couple
of times.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
That one that was slowly making its way down. You're like, dang,
that's gonna go in. Yeah, I mean I would imagine
that they have that down to an exact science or
wells as close as you can.
Speaker 5 (10:25):
You know, a lot of.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Stuff to get into today, by the way, which will
be awesome. We're gonna have Bill Lindsay, who is the
Florida Panthers radio analyst. He's gonna be first up, as
are on our guest list today from Fritzy, longtime Florida Panther.
You know what I love about Bill Lindsay, Like I
was reading the bio on him. Not only did he
(10:47):
play in the NHLF for like fifteen years, but when
he was done, he didn't played two more years in Germany.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
Hockey guys, can you imagine a.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Guy playing twelve years in the NFL and then like
for the last two years, like you know, I'm gonna
I'm gonna go.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Play in the CFL like Yarmi Yaker.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
That would never happen, Like hockey guys, I mean, how
much money. I'm gonna ask Bill how much money he
made in the German league his last years, or if
he just wanted to be over there for Octoberfest, or
what the deal was. We're gonna get into the Connor
McDavid winning the con smythe because there's so many interesting
things there about a losing team player winning the MVP.
(11:23):
But it's also it's not just for the Stanley Cup finals,
for the whole playoffs, so we'll get into that. The
calend of Panthers. While we're talking Panthers look like they're
getting a new stadium or a least stadium renovations, public money.
Until he's a hot topic. The Lakers introed JJ Reddick
yesterday and he was dropping f bombs. He does not care.
(11:47):
He is very clear that he does not care what
people say about him, So then let's talk about him.
If he doesn't care about what people say about him,
of course we'll get the play of the day stat
of the day. What we learned a lot to get to.
I did get a text last night from a number
that was not in my phone and it just said Elation.
(12:11):
And I was just I got text message right when
the game ended. It said Elation and I was just
about to immediately hit the delete and report as junk
because I'm like, what is this? And then a couple
seconds later, this is Mattie Rose from Calgary, great talking.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
Yes, you know I thought about all night it was.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
It was Mattie Rose, the radio host from Calgary, or
as Polly likes to say, Calgary, that joined us on
yesterday's show. I am fascinated by this element. I didn't
care that much, but I wanted Edmonton to win. I
wanted it for those people. And yet here's another guy
from Alberta. You would think that they want to bring
(12:56):
the cup. Nope, Elation, that Florida one. See.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
I love that Kachuck in the post game was like
he's like, you know, just lift the Stanley Cuppy.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
He's like, oh my god, we did it.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
We won, And he says in his interview he's just like,
and you know, shout out to all my Calgary fans.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
You know I couldn't let Edmonton win.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Oh he said that.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
Yeah, in the like he just won.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Stanley CuPy just did it and he was like, yeah,
shout out to Calgary. You know I wouldn't let them win.
I was like, God, this rivalry is great. I mean,
I don't he played there. I think for a bit so.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Dingy like forced his way, Like I don't. I don't
follow hockey, you know, fact check me on this, but like,
didn't he make it clear he didn't want to play
there anymore?
Speaker 5 (13:32):
I think probably?
Speaker 4 (13:33):
However, in that moment, he was like, shout out to
my day ones. You guys have been with me and
you knew I wasn't gonna let them win.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Yeah, Kachuck was that. I started his career there. I
played six years there.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
I love that. Calgary shout out as well to those
of you that give us a buzz eight seven seven
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You can always go to Dan Patrick dot com. You
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Love the interaction with you guys. By the way, it
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sometimes it's just easier to just read one of your
tweets to me than it is to take a call.
We just have the time for it to hit me
up at Ross Tucker NFL. Of course we're live on
Peacock Fox Sports Radio, a million affiliates. I do know
there's a bunch of people that get a chance to
listen to the full show later on via podcast, which
(14:25):
is awesome, as you guys know, I've got one of
those as well, Ross Tucker Football Podcast. I can guarantee
you I will not say one word about the Stanley
Cup Final or JJ Reddick or College World Series on that.
That is a football only show. Really looking forward to
talking with Bill Lindsay, the Florida Panthers radio analyst. There's
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just so much stuff to get to from last night.
The NBA Draft is tomorrow night. I have not heard
one person say one thing about the NBA Draft being
tomorrow night other than and it's like the line from
Major League, Who the bleep are these guys? You know?
That's basically what people are saying about tomorrow night's NBA Draft.
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Speaker 2 (16:16):
We are going to get back to a little bit
of hockey talk a little bit later in the show,
we might have to check in with our guy Matty Rose,
who's gloating in Calgary since he doesn't have to deal
with the hated Edmonton Oilers winning the Cup and bringing
it back to Canada for the first time in thirty
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one years. But there was big news in the NBA
yesterday in the sense that JJ Reddick had his opening
press conference, and you know, it could have been one
of those press conferences as the new head coach of
the Lakers that nothing eventful happens, nobody really talks about it.
And a lot of times when people have a press conference,
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that's the goal. Sometimes when they have a press conference,
that's not the goal. Sometimes when they have a press conference,
they want to send a message, and I would say
JJ at least sent one message when he was asked
about the outside noise regarding his lack of experience in
getting the head coaching position in LA.
Speaker 7 (17:20):
What misconceptions or concerns about you that you've heard in
the last few weeks are you most like looking forward
to dispelling.
Speaker 8 (17:30):
It's a valid question, and I've certainly heard everything. You know,
it's It's been a really interesting six weeks or so
just in terms of, you know, being part of the
engagement farming industry. You know, it's been really interesting. However,
(17:51):
I don't really have a great answer for your question
because I really don't give up. Like, honestly, I want
to coach the Lakers. I want to coach the team.
I don't want to dispel anything. I don't. I want
to become a great coach in the NBA, and I
want to win championships and I want my players to
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maximize their careers.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
That's all I care about. JJ Reddick. You know, I'll
tell you The part about that I appreciate is when
he said I see everything, because so often people are like,
I don't read that stuff. I don't hear or read
that stuff. You know what Bill Plashki writes about me,
I don't care. That doesn't matter. I don't ever see that. Well,
(18:35):
how did you know he wrote something about you.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
I'm a big boy and swearing doesn't bother me. I'm
not like, oh he swore, I'm offended, But I was
a little surprised that he went that way in his
first Laker interview. He was the first Laker press converence
that you know, if it really didn't bother him, he
would have maybe blown off the question a little bit,
and he knows it's coming. He has no doubt that
questions coming.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Well, hold that thought, because I think there's a lot
there that I want to get into with you guys
as it relates to not just JJ Reddick dropping the
F bomb a couple times, but just in general. I
don't ever remember athletes ever saying the F word after
a game, and now you hear it more and more.
It's kind of become more common. I don't know if
that's like something with the people in their twenties or thirties. Now,
(19:20):
I feel like I'm like that old guy. I can't
believe these kids are using the F word these days.
We'll get in that a little bit later. I want
to first talk to Kobe Price, because Kobe covers the
Lakers for the Southern California News Group. He was at
the press conference yesterday, and so I guess I'll just
start with that. Kobe. I appreciate you coming on the show,
(19:42):
just your initial reaction to JJ's press conference in general,
just sort of the tone of it.
Speaker 9 (19:51):
Yeah, Well, first off, thank you for having me on.
I really appreciate it. But just the general tone of
the press conference, you know, maybe's the tone, but.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Like you know, he won the day. He won.
Speaker 9 (20:01):
The press conference, he did everything he sells to do
with the Lakers starts to do yesterday, and it was
very much just a lot of talking about for thinking,
innovation and how, yes, this JJ higher is unorthodox, but
that's kind of what the Lakers are going for, especially
in this modern NBA where the CBA is going to
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require different, you know, different from teams in terms of
how they build out their rosters. So the tone was
optimistic and hopeful, especially and that was kind of necessary
considering that JJ is not a typical NBA head coach
in terms of his resume and what his prior experience.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
But the general themes in.
Speaker 9 (20:42):
The general move was just one of optimism, hopeful and
just you know, an eagerness to see how this will
all unfold. I think I think that's the best way
to describe it.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Kobe. What was your reaction to the answer he gave
that we just played. I know you could hear that
where he say he doesn't give half. What what was
your thoughts on the language that he used in the
way in which he said it. Uh.
Speaker 9 (21:07):
First off, as soon as he said it, it's weird
how this happens. Like in my brain, I just thought,
I know this is going to go viral. Like there's
no chance that this is not but viral. This would
be shared across social media within ten minutes, and it's
going to be a big hit. Maybe I'm part of
I've heard you what you were saying. You couldn't believe
all these twenty and thirty year old athletes who are
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cursing all the time now dropping the boul Maybe I'm
one of them. It kind of didn't phaze me that much.
I was just like, oh, okay, well that's kind of me.
I think also kind of shows his personality. I think
sometimes you're when you're in these press conference modes, you know,
they're so buttoned up and they want to get you know,
all these things right. But I think there was a
level of authenticity from JJ. You've got really got your
(21:51):
first personality and maybe how he'll communicate, which we obviously
saw in his podcast and you know, down the line
and being a player for fifteen plus years including college.
But I wasn't too much phased by it, I think.
I know some people were a little confused by the
answer or why he chose to drop the F bomb
at that moment, but I think it just showed kind
(22:13):
of him in essence. So for me, I was just like,
all right, there you go.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
He said it.
Speaker 9 (22:19):
And I think even Rob, I mean, I don't know
if it got picked up by the audio on the mics,
but even Rob was like, there you go, yeah, there
it is so.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Kobe, if you don't mind me asking, hell, old are
you twenty seven? Okay? Do you think, like for you
and your age group, does that endear JJ to you?
Do you think it was cool that he dropped the
F bomb that it will now be a five second
clip that's on TikTok and Instagram reels and all that stuff.
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Does that ingratiate JJ With a younger audience, it probably does.
Speaker 9 (22:56):
I mean for me personally, I don't know whether it's
cool or not. I'm not offended by it. I'll say
that it doesn't bother me. I can understand why I
would bother people, but for me person doesn't bother me.
But I definitely think that for a younger audience, for
people maybe more around like my group, It is like
a cooler edgier, you know, when you appear to not
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be as buttoned up or if you don't like the
obviously he's wearing a students hide, but the symbol of
a students high when you don't apeel that way, it
does help you probably within it, it does help you
with the younger audience. So yeah, I think he probably
won some clote unquote cool points.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
With that talk with Kobe probably who covers the Lakers
for the Southern California News Group. So, what do you
think the plan is now, Kobe? Starting with the draft
tomorrow night. And I know there's been so much conversation
about Brownie James. What do you think that Lakers are
going to try to do to give JJ Reddick the
best chance to have success with this roster.
Speaker 9 (23:54):
Yeah, I know we spoke about it obviously during the
press conferences today, the draft was brought up a little bit,
and yeah, so he Rob was asked about, you know,
potentially trading you know, for you know, bigger star player
or even a couple of smaller moves, and Rob acknowledged
that if the perfect trade lines up, obviously it would
make a move. But in the modern NBA especially, I
(24:15):
brought it up earlier the CBA. Some of these trades
are going to be harder to make, and a big,
a big talking point from yesterday was player development, the
emphasis they're going to put on player development. So with that,
you know, two days later, it would be maybe not surprising,
but a little bit off the theme of yesterday if
(24:36):
they did try to, you know, acquire bigger player, I
would expect for them to even if they traded up,
traded down, I would expect for them to use the
first round draft pick on a you know, on a
draft prospect and bring that player in onto their roster.
Briannie James obviously is the big talking point for for
good reason, for big reason. He would be more more
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so a second round opportunity for the Lakers more than
likely on Thursday. So and the Lakers don't have their
peek until the second round pick until later in the
second round. So maybe he was there, and maybe he's not.
I know there's some other teams are interested. But if
if Ronnie's there for the Lakers, I believe at fifty
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five in the second round, I would be very surprised
if they passed up on him.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Didn't he say he didn't want to play with his dad,
like he wanted to do his own thing. What did
he say? I forget.
Speaker 9 (25:31):
I can't remember exactly the quote, but I don't I
think he said something along the lines of it wasn't
something that he necessarily wanted or sought after. I don't
think he's necessarily said he didn't want it, but I
don't think he said that. That's something like that that
wasn't a goal, If that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Got it? Kobe? Really appreciate the time. Thank you so
much for coming on the show. Oh appreciate you having
me on there. He is Kobe Price covers the Lakers
for the Southern California News Group. You know, it's funny.
I'm just sitting here thinking, guys, I was always kind
of taught, or I look at things right, like when
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I'm talking in general, but especially in public, would I
want my grandma? Like? What would my grandmas think of
what I'm saying? And what would my kids think? I
don't know if JJ Reddick has kids or not. My
daughters are twelve and almost eleven. My grandmas have passed
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at this point. But I guess I just think I'm
not like some prude. I've used the F word. People
use the F word all the time, but I guess
I just think in an opening press conference. I don't know.
I guess I sometimes think of the usage of that word.
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I've heard it said that it demonstrates a lack of
intelligence when there are people that swear all the time
because they can't find a different or better word to
express what they're trying to get across. My thing is
just you, you are setting the tone. And I think he
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did that on purpose. I think he did that intentionally.
I think that was the tone he wanted to set,
and that's how he wanted to represent himself. And I
guess more power to him. I don't know. It seems
like his brand is almost like being defiant. His brand
is about I don't give a you know what? Marv.
Speaker 7 (27:40):
Yeah, I feel like the chip is on his shoulder,
like he has a big chip on his shoulder. And
even like Paulie was just saying, like he always comes
off like condescending, like on First Take and on other
ESPN platforms, it's like, you guys don't know. If you
listen to Mind the Game podcast with Lebron, it's those
two are like Oh good, Finally somebody that I can
talk to about basketball that actually knows the game. So
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it kind of kind of came off that way too,
when people are questioning his experience and things like that.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Which is so interesting because part of what you're doing
as a broadcaster, it's broadcasting. It's not narrow casting. You're
you're trying to explain the game to the common person
so that they can learn it better and understand more.
What is going on? I don't know. I mean, do
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you guys have a big problem with it?
Speaker 6 (28:32):
You think that?
Speaker 2 (28:33):
I mean, Kobe said he won the day, he won
the day. Do we think he won the day because
he was confident or because of the things he said?
Or do we think he won the day because he
used the F word saying I don't give a F.
And as a result, it went viral and people are like, yeah,
he doesn't give an F. Seaton.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
Well, I say this as a cursor, right, I have
a foul mouth. I don't do it like if I'm
out around strangers, I don't really curse all that much.
But if I'm in an environment that I'm comfortable, like
certainly around here, I curse a lot, you know, because
I just I do.
Speaker 8 (29:07):
I have.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
It's not a great thing I have noticed. I wish
that I didn't curse as much, but I do, Okay.
I think if you think about JJ Reddick, the moments
that he's most known for in his media career, it's
that same type of energy or attitude. It's when he's
on first take and he's like, dude, you don't know
(29:28):
anything about basketball, okay, because I played and I did
all that, and he's telling people that they're a bunch
of idiots because they don't know what they're talking at right,
Steven A, you don't even know what you're talking about
because you don't know basketball. And I know that you
know what I mean. He Those are his moments that
resonated the most over the last year or two, but
however long his media career has been, so I think
(29:48):
that that attitude is not really surprising. That he had
the same attitude in his first day as the Lakers
head coach. But you do think that once you get
to a job like the Lakers head coach, you have
a certain amount of confidence that you don't have to
worry about that stuff anymore.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Whatever happened to just kind of being classy, just being
professional and classy. What do you mean in terms of
the way, in terms of the way you conduct yourself
and handle yourself. I don't know. I mean it just
that doesn't come across as that to me.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
PAULI yeah, I agree that. Again, the language part was unnecessary,
and I'll obviously calculated by him. But I do think
a lot of fans of any tea, whether it's the
Lakers or any team that gets a new coach, wants
to hear a coach come in at the press conmence
with some bravado, yes, some cockiness, like I'm gonna get
us there, I'm that's what you want to hear. You know,
when Jim Harbaugh went to the Chargers, people are like, hey,
this guy comes in. He's not I'm not here to
(30:45):
go eight, you know, nine and eight my first, He's
I'm here to win it all. And that's what you
want to hear.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Remember when Lovey Smith got the Bears job, He's like
number one goal to beat the Packers. You mean, like
people want to hear that part of it. Marv.
Speaker 7 (30:56):
If you if you cover the Lakers, like Kobe when
you heard you know what JJ Redick said, are you
super excited because you know, every single night I'm gonna
get some type of quote from this guy. Like just
from a content point of Vieweah, yeah, yeah, Okay.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
I think listen, Kobe Price does not come on the
number one sports talk radio show in the country, the
Dan Patrick Show today if JJ Reddick doesn't say the
F word twice yesterday. I mean so on some level,
what JJ Reddick did worked and it worked out for
(31:30):
Kobe Seaton.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
Some of those things that we're talking about, like you
have to come out with this right attitude and you
have to I get that.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
A lot of that.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
Some of it is super formulaic too, Like if you
are hired as the Ohio State head football coach, what
is the very first thing you have to say, Man,
we're gonna beat Michigan on October fifteenth or whenever they
play right team up north, yeah, or the team up
north right, whatever it is.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (31:57):
You have to make some reference on how and.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
I'm coming in here with the one mission is to
beat those guys whatever, right, Okay, check the box. Now
you did it. It used to like mean something Now
it's just part of the formula.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Can you imagine if the guy came in is like, yeah,
I just don't think it's as big a rivalry as
everybody else says.
Speaker 5 (32:14):
I'm here to get national championships. If we beat that
other team, I don't really care.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
I mean Michigan. Yeah, it's not that big a deal.
People would lose their mind. I'm curious. I don't know
if there's a poll question or we can just take
some calls about it eight seven seven three DP Show
or hit me up on social media at Ross Tucker,
NFL at DP Show. I am a little curious though,
to see what the public reaction is to JJ Reddick
(32:41):
dropping a couple f bombs. Love it, hate it, don't
care somewhere in the middle forty four minutes past the
hour here on The Dan Patrick Show.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show week days at nine am Eastern six am
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Speaker 2 (32:59):
Final hour on a Tucker Tuesday, Ross Tucker again in
the Big Chair. Tomorrow will be my last day this week,
filling in for Dan, who's on a family VACA. And
all I can think about was the joy of victory
and the agony of defeat. Last night. You know, the
(33:21):
contrast is just ridiculous. I'm watching and we actually before
the show, Paully had some of the video that we
were checking out. The Panthers players throwing off their gloves,
taking off their helmets, running onto the ice like their
eight year olds going to get ice cream. I mean,
(33:43):
it was just the pure joy. Meanwhile, the looks on
the oilers' faces. And then the College World Series where
Tennessee wins it for the first time in school history.
They go out there, but by the way, you do
not want to be at the bottom of a dog
pile like that. I've been at the bottom one of
those piles one time. That's not a fun experience. You're
(34:03):
you're like, get off of me now. I mean, you
get three or four dudes on top of you. That
is not a good feeling. So hopefully not on the
bottom and hopefully doesn't last too long. And then the
tax A and M players. You see those guys, they
it was like they were statues that they were just
(34:24):
staring out at the Tennessee guys celebrating. I think that's
an interesting phenomenon that I've never experienced, which is losing
that championship game it seems like the losing team they
could just leave. At least in baseball, the tex ay
(34:46):
and Maggie's could just leave. Hockey's a little different because
they have that end of series handshake, which, by the way,
that you know when you're like a high school football player,
the end of the game, you go there, you go,
good game, great game, great game, goread game, great game,
good game, great game. That's forced the end of series
(35:09):
hockey handshake line. It just seems so genuine and authentic.
It seems like Bill Lindsay, our guy that came. I
think it's one of the things I love so much
about hockey is just the authenticity of the guys. PAULI.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
It's one of those traditions. I can remember the first
time I saw it, I was, you know, probably a kid.
I was like, no one else does this. You don't
see baseball they run in pylon. Sometimes in baseball in
the World Series, a guy will be on the top
step a losing team and watch the painful celebration the
other team or football. I've seen some players they sit
there and watch. They want to yeah, they want to
be burned in their mind, but that's one of the
(35:50):
traditions that if it's not in your sport, it's never
going to be in your sport. You know, like football
is never going to say, like you know what NFL
players should do after the Super Bowl, let's line up.
It's never gonna happen. They rope you off hockey.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
They come flying out there with the ropes and you're
on the wrong side of them.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
He gives hockey players, especially for those who are casualt hockey,
when they watch the Stanley Cup Final, a new level
respect at the end when they see that if when
you see it for the first time.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
The eye contact did they make with each other, like
you could you could teach your kids the proper way
to shake someone's hand. They look at each other, they
give them a firm handshake, and you can tell they
say good job man, great great, great job man, Congratulations
Like that is awesome. There's so many awesome parts of hockey,
(36:33):
so many awesome parts of filling in for Dan, including
the unbelievable audience we have everybody watching on Peacock, all
of the folks listening on all the different Fox Sports
radio affiliates. I know a bunch of you guys that
maybe you listen to parts of the show while you're
in the car or whatever. You listen to the rest
(36:53):
on podcasts later. Please check out the Ross Tuck or
Football podcast if you're ever missing me or during football season.
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Ross Tucker NFL. Certainly you can always go to Danpatrick
dot com as well. We're gonna be joined by Maddie
Rose in a minute or two here to get the perspective.
(37:17):
We had them on yesterday and it was pretty awesome.
It wasn't mean spirited in any way, but it was
very clear that I think, you know, it's weird because
I don't like rooting for people to lose, but I
also appreciate the high level of I don't know what
(37:43):
agitation contempt that they have for each other between Edmonton
and Calgary. Paul.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Yeah, we've been talking about this going back to last week.
If you're Canadian and you're not a fan of the
Edmondson Oilers, does any part of your root for the
Oilers against the Panthers because Canada has been shut out
of a Stanley Cup their teams have for ninety three, rightee,
ninety three? Is there any part of you that would
like to see your rival tople the American team.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
And what's interesting about that is, like, so, the Flyers
have not won the Cup in a long long time,
the seventies. Okay, let's say it was reversed, and let's
say an American team hadn't won the Cup in thirty
years and the Canadians had been winning it all the time.
If it was like the Penguins in this Hand Cup final,
(38:29):
I'm just telling you right now, not a single person
in Philadelphia would root for the Penguins, not a So like,
on the one end, we're like surprised that these guys
in Canada aren't rooting for the other Canadian teams. We
think they're nice and is this important for your country?
Don't you want to see them win? Meanwhile, if roles
were reversed and it was the Rangers or the Penguins,
(38:55):
Flyers fans would watch it with intense pass rooting for
the Canadian team another country, a different country, as opposed
to like I said, there were more Americans rooting for
the Oilers last night, a higher percentage than there were Canadians.
Speaking of Americans, the best American athletes looked to punch
(39:19):
their tickets to the Paris Olympics. The US Olympic team
trials part of making Team USA. I looked at it
a little bit last night when I flipped over or
at NBC last night. It was the steeplechase, which is
my all time favorite. Why are you there's a track
(39:40):
where they run events and all of a sudden there's
an event where they have to jump over this thing
and avoid the water. What are we talking about now?
Speaker 3 (39:50):
That seems like really old school, Like it wasn't just
we were bored and the normal four hundred meters were
getting boring and let's throw in a big, you know
thing of water.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Can you imagine? Like you're in charge of getting the
new track together, and you know, you get it, get
to take up one and a half million dollars, and
you're like, well, don't forget. You need to get the
gate and the water and the hole for this deeple chase.
Like what we're trying to.
Speaker 5 (40:16):
Where do you want to put the hole in the water.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
Yeah, I don't even know where the hole in the
water and this deeple chase goes, I don't I don't
even know what the deal is.
Speaker 5 (40:26):
Don't forget the hole in the water.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
And by the way, nobody ever says in the history
of the world, nobody has ever said, when they're eight
years old, I uh, I just really want to be
the world's best steeplechase runner. Never that, whoever that person is.
They failed at what they were trying to do, like
whatever event they wanted to do, the one hundred meters
(40:50):
or whatever it was, they failed, and someone said, you
know what, nobody else wants to chase.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
You're leaving in a few days now. We're gonna have
the whole steeple chase contingent on our back.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
Can you name can anybody here name a single steeplechaser?
Does anybody here even really know what steeple chase is seton?
Speaker 5 (41:11):
You have two daughters, yes, either of them on a pony.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
Yes, there you go.
Speaker 5 (41:17):
Steeple chasers.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
Why there's no pony involved, isn't it.
Speaker 5 (41:21):
Oh isn't that the one with the with the horse?
Speaker 2 (41:24):
No, that's equestrian.
Speaker 5 (41:26):
Oh, what's the one where they jump over the things
and stuff?
Speaker 2 (41:29):
Horse jumping?
Speaker 5 (41:30):
Yeah, Oh, that's a steeple chase's stepchase.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
No steeple chase. They're actually running the long distance track.
And what they run for like they run around the
track like they run around the track like eight times.
Speaker 3 (41:43):
It's three thousand meters. It started in the nineteen twenty Olympics.
Uh oh yeah, there's twenty run through the puddles. Right,
there's twenty eight jump barriers and then there's a water
barriers that are three and a half meters long after
the jump. After like that, so.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
Then you're running around. You're running distance with wet sneakers.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
Wet sneakers.
Speaker 4 (42:05):
Yeah, who's this sounds like a lot of blisters to.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
Go back and watch. I guarantee the person that invented
this could not win any other event. Was like I
got to come up with something. I got to come
up with some way to win the gold medal.
Speaker 3 (42:22):
We'll keep an eye. We're gonna look for more details
of one people chaser.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
Orig I never even met a steeple chaser. It's on foot,
it's on foot, and they jump over into puddles and
they're like, oh he got he got good jump over
the puddle. That's what was on NBC last night. Where
do you practice that at the track where they just
got the brand new hole of water.
Speaker 5 (42:42):
I don't know, like any any street that you ever
run down as a kid.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
That's actually that had to be how it started, Like
you had to jump over a creek, probably up in Canada,
it's probably, although that wouldn't the creepy frozen in Canada.
And let's find out for Maddie Rose, he joined us
back to back? How many times does this happen, Paulie,
where you've had a guest back to back days? The
guy's never been on the show before. Okay, he's a
(43:06):
sports talk radio host in Calgary. You haven't had Larry
Bird on the show back to back days. You haven't
had anybody on the back yet. Maddie Rose gets to
be on the show back to back days. It's unique.
Can you guys stay Fritzi, you're the guest booker. Can
you ever think of another time where you've had a
guest back to back days? Not really?
Speaker 7 (43:26):
Maybe there was a time where there was just breaking
news with the same team two days in a row,
so we put the person back on, but can't think
of who that was?
Speaker 2 (43:33):
All right, Well, he texted me last night, Maddie, you
have no idea how close you got to getting reported
as junk because I have this text message that comes through.
It's take eleven o'clock and I just see a text
message elation and I'm like, elation from a four to
h three number. I think it was I didn't put
(43:54):
you in my phone, by way, I already deleted the text,
but I see like a four oh three number. And
then it's like, by the way, this is Matti Rose,
So explain that elation.
Speaker 8 (44:04):
Now.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
You literally went out of your way to text me
elation right when the game ended. Tell me about it.
Speaker 10 (44:08):
I had to tell everybody, everyone that would listen, how
relieved we were up in town for this to end
in a way that wasn't the oilers hosting the cop
and go in the reverse sweep, we saw so many
oilers jerseys wandering around town. I decided to stay at
home and watch the game because I wasn't sure how
it would behave publicly, and sure enough, we got the
result that we wanted. So everyone is feeling elated up here,
(44:32):
like a big relief.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
That's the word, right, relief.
Speaker 10 (44:38):
Without a doubt, Like it was one of our kind
of topics on the show today. This relief that you're
feeling today is like what and a lot of people
were talking about, you know, when you finally make it home.
Maybe if you were, you know, clenching for like the
last thirty minutes of your drive home, things like that.
So people were very relieved that the Oilers were unable
(44:59):
to push this thing over the edge?
Speaker 2 (45:01):
Aren't you guys supposed to be? I feel like I
never knew Canadians were such haters. Why are you such
a hater?
Speaker 10 (45:08):
Yeah, but hockey makes us different likes. It's one of
those things that we all love and we all get
a little bit primal about. So I think that there's
a little bit of that gets involved. Plus the regional stuff.
You guys know what it's like down in the US
of all your US regional rivalries across the country, and
that's what we are here. If this was another Canadian team,
(45:28):
it wouldn't have been as intense, we wouldn't have cared
nearly as much. But because this was the Oilers, it
was very important for this too not to go well
for Edmonton.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
What would it have been like today if Edmonton won
on the show? Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 10 (45:45):
I was really contemplating about maybe like skipping work if
they had won't starting to do job, getting into the trades,
picking up something like scaffolding. Perhaps, I don't know. It
was gonna be crazy like is Like I mentioned, we
saw so many oilers, jerseys and fans hanging around on
the streets yesterday filling up the bars like it was
(46:07):
one of those events that you couldn't get a table
in downtown Calgary if you were trying to watch the game.
So everybody was heavily invested. And every time that, you know,
even if you got buddies or they're not buddies, and
you know, you always want to have the upper hand
in those type of rivalries, and Calgary fans got to
enjoy it today. We didn't have to do the holes
sad look towards the parade, you know, raising Connor McDavid's bander.
(46:32):
We didn't have to do any of that today. So
that was that was relieving for sure.
Speaker 2 (46:36):
Talking with Mattie Rose, co host of The Big Show
with Russick and Rose on sports Net nine sixty in Calgary,
the radio home for the Calgary Flames. So checkuk. I
missed this, but he shouted you guys out after the game. Evident. Yeah,
I mean, I'm sure you played the audio on your
show today, So I'm a little bit confused. I thought
(46:59):
he kind of for his way out, didn't he did?
He did he not want to be there? Explain to
me the Chikuk relationship with Calgary.
Speaker 10 (47:08):
This is one of those things where yes, he definitely
was he forced his way out. There was a whole
bunch of things that were like I think a lot
of people could point to maybe seasons earlier and why
he wasn't extended then and talk about things like that,
But that wasn't the case. So he ended up forcing
his hand to leave town. The team has obviously been
much worse for it, but I did think that there
(47:29):
are still some people who enjoyed his time here in Canada.
I think a lot of people look at Johnny Gudroau,
who left a free agency to Columbus, as kind of
maybe a worst case than Matthew could chuck and yesterday.
To me, like Matthew was a guy who understands how
to use the media. His dad played in the NHL.
He's got a lot of charisma, and that to me
(47:52):
was like a subtle shot at Edmonton. Well, also maybe
trying to get back in the good books of Calgary
Flames fans a little bit. So Yeah, people in Calgary
really loved that.
Speaker 2 (48:01):
What what did you think of Connor McDavid winning the
cons mice?
Speaker 10 (48:08):
Yeah, he was really good, Like he was the best
player of the postseason. You don't break Wayne Gritzky's records
and just kind of not be good doing that. So
he was outstanding wire to wire. Obviously, he didn't have
points in the last two games, and that's what a
lot of people are going to look at and say, well,
he gave the con smythe to a guy that okay,
his team was down three nothing and then he got
(48:29):
them back almost even. But he didn't really change much
after that. So there there was definitely some people here
in Calgary who were a little bit questionable about it.
But I think the thing that made it tough for
Florida was that they didn't necessarily have someone who kind
of took that step above everybody else on their team.
Like you could talk about Alexander Barkov for some games.
(48:50):
You could have talked about Sergey Bbrovski, you know, especially
up until game number three, but then he gets shelled
for five and twenty five minutes of action and you
can't really go on giving the CONTs might do a
guy who totally let the oilers back into the series.
So I was a little disappointed he didn't come out
to get it. That was disappointing. You know, it's the
first time since two thousand and three that someone has
won the con Smythe and not won the Stanley Cup
(49:13):
at the same time. That was Jaya Shagear, who was
a goaltender. It was in New Jersey. He played for
the Ducks. He came out and he got the con
smithe even though he looked absolutely miserable doing it. So
that was one thing that I did kind of wonder
about with Connor. That was our other text topic today
is how lonely is the con Smythe Trophy because I
imagine he's still sitting in the middle of the rink
in Florida.
Speaker 2 (49:33):
MADDI really appreciate the time. We'll have you on again
when the Flames win the Cup.
Speaker 5 (49:37):
How about it, see you guys in like fifteen years.
Speaker 2 (49:40):
Cheers, Thank you, Maddie. Mattie Rose, co host of The
Big Show with Russik and Rose on sports Net nine
sixty in Calgary. I appreciate that. I also appreciate a
healthy conversation and I am starting with Setan because I'm
gonna make Seaton defend the sport of soccer when we
(50:02):
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