July 10, 2024 • 54 mins
On today's Dan Patrick Show, Fox Sports Play-by-Play Voice Gus Johnson joins the show to discuss the potential of Duke freshman Cooper Flagg, the upcoming College Football season, and the biggest concerns surrounding Team USA. Dan talks phenoms in sports in the wake of Cooper Flagg's success. Plus, Dan reacts to Klay Thompson and Chris Paul moving to Texas.
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will join us a little bit later on. He's been
covering the US Olympic team. Summer League basketball continues, and
everybody spots somebody and they go, wow, that is going
to be great. Once again, I'm going to caution you
the Summer League is littered with guys who are Wow,
that guy is gonna be great, and then they disappear.
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You know, you get it into an atmosphere where and
it feels like everything is run up and down the
floor and shoot threes. That's what the Summer League is.
But occasionally you'll get some players who know how to
play and they will play in the NBA. But as
far as playing at a high level, what you do
in the Summer League doesn't equate to stardom in the NBA. Right,
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So we have a poll question today. Gus will join
us a little bit later on. We've been talking about
Cooper Flag, seventeen year old going to Duke. He's playing
against the Olympic team and holding his own and you
start to wonder about when does somebody become a phenom.
When do the parents realize this? Do they realize it
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before the athlete does. We've had athletes in tennis as
young as what thirteen for Capriotti. They're there on the
center stage, they're playing in big events. In fact, tennis
has a lot of players, especially on the women's side
of tennis, that they're able to be there and play
at a high level at a younger age than the
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men track and field, you have a sixteen year old
who's going to be representing the United States in track
and field. Basketball is a little trickier, although you can
go back to Lebron when he was sixteen playing against
NBA players holding his own Bryce Harper when he was
fifteen or sixteen on the cover Sports Illustrated. You just
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have like the genetic lottery that you hit, But then
you also have to have parents who are and they
may border on being obsessive, but you have to sometime,
Like Tiger's dad was obsessive with Tiger, and if you
watch the documentary on Tiger, his parents tell his dad
tells him to break up with this girl that he
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really likes her. He writes her a letter and says,
I got to break up with you. She's like, why
my dad told me to. He didn't want anybody or
anything to get in the way of Tiger being great.
You look at Venus and Serena Williams, their father he
was not going to let anything get in the way,
including their upbringing in Compton. They are on sixty minutes
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and you're thinking, how are they able to be as
great as they are given the surroundings that they're growing
up in. But parents can be great. Parents can always
ruin things too. But you have a seventeen year old
kid who grew up in Maine and he is now
the number one high school player in America and projected
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to be the number one pick. Now we've seen this before.
Freddie Adu was a soccer player and he was supposed
to be the next great player and he never turned
out to be. I think he kind of burst on
the scene at fifteen. You have the hits and missus,
but sometimes you get that one and oh, oh my goodness,
that person is destined for greatness. But the role that
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parents play, coaches play, and also that player himself, because
I think we all grew up with, you know, athletes
who were like, oh my god, he's so much better
than everybody else, but they matured quicker. I remember playing
against a guy in eighth grade and I go, I'll
never be as good as him. He didn't make the
freshman team, but in eighth grade he was unbelievable. That's
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what happens. They stop, you continue, but then you have
to want to be great. That's another thing. It's not
your parents want you to be great. It's when the
child wants to be great, then the parents should follow suit,
not the other way around.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Yes, that's one of.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
The things that people had been saying about Cooper Flagg.
I think I don't know if it was Kevin Durant
or not, that somebody had said, like, you could just
tell that this kid wants to be great like he
wants it, he wants to be the guy.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
And you got to have that, because I've been around parents,
been around coaches, and they will tell you he just
doesn't want it, like it comes too easy for you.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Want that kid? Who you got to go?
Speaker 5 (05:12):
Dad?
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Can you come out hippie grounders? Dad? Can you throw
me BP?
Speaker 5 (05:16):
Dad?
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Would you rebound for me? Like you want to have that?
Speaker 2 (05:20):
And when you have that, then as a parent, it's
exciting because it's not like I gotta drag Timmy out
and having shag flies. Come on, we're going to the
driving range on it's too hot. It's when the kid
is obsessed and then you follow suit. Too many times
it's parents who go come on yet, because we live
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vicariously through our children. If we didn't succeed, or the
guy who almost had the college career or he almost
was a great high school player. Now you see yourself
and your son or daughter and you're like, come on,
get out there and do it for me. Whether they
say that or not, it is implied you want your
son or daughter to succeed. Parents take great pride in that.
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Hey look what I did. Look what we did out there.
But you have to have something in your mind, that
DNA that says I want to be great and nothing
is going to stop me. Because you wouldn't expect a
kid in Maine to be the number one player in
America in high school basketball, going into college basketball and
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going to be the projected number one pick. But you
wouldn't have expected Serena Williams coming out of Compton to
be the best female tennis player of all time.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
And who's this kid? Tiger Woods and he's going to.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Take on everybody, And at age two or three he's
on a TV show. Get you can't script these things.
You have to have it just falls into place. But
the son or the daughter and the role they play
of wanting it is really key because a lot of
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time the parents want it more than the child does.
All right, we'll come up with the pole question here,
But yeah, we were kind of looking at this with
the tennis players at Wembledon, I mean even eighteen years
of age, that's not young, not anymore. Certainly on the
female side of the draw. You know, you get fourteen
fifteen years of age, but a male track star at
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sixteen that's really unheard of. You'll get some fast, you know,
track and field athletes at that age, but then to
go to the Olympics, that's different. So they're just certain
players and certain athletes. And I always look at, you know,
the lineage here your dad play, mom play. Look at
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Christian McCaffrey's parents and grandparents, great athletes. Mahomes' dad major
League Baseball player, Griffy with his father, I mean Tiger.
You know his dad was a athlete, not anywhere.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Near what he is.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Kobe Bryant, his dad play like you you have that
where you go your dad play?
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Now? No, my mom is all American volleyball player. Okay,
like it.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
They's somewhere in the tree, the DNA tree where you go.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Oh okay, yeah that guy. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
See Brad on Twitter brings up a good one too.
He has Katie Ledecki. She won a gold medal at fifteen. Yeah,
I think kind of out of nowhere. Well you find
that though also with female swimmers. While Missy Franklin I
think was really young, like you, Dearren Torres, like there's
a lot of you know, women mature quicker sooner and
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have that opportunity to be able to compete before you know.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Boys, we're goofy, we're gangly. Yeah, gold medal at fifteen,
it's it's pretty good. Yes, yeah, yeah, Paul.
Speaker 6 (08:50):
I think you hit it on the head. It helps
if your father or mother played basketball. I looked at
Cooper Flag both parents played small college basketball mate, so
it comes from a basketball family. But the gift when
they say an athletes gifted, was Michael Jordan gifted with
leaping ability and coordination? Or was his gift a maniacal
desire to win and improve? Lebron's gift is being six '
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eight and coordinated and jacked, but also to work out
like that? Or Kobe Bryant was his gift? Is it
basketball jumping ability and leaping ability or being a maniac
about working out?
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Maybe that's the gift.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
But also when you realize you have it, the question
is do you want to cultivate it? Because there are
a lot of people who have a lot of talent.
And I was around a woman who's beautiful singer, and
I go, why don't you do this for livning? Why
you know, why don't you explore this? And she goes,
I don't think so, and I go why and she said,
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I don't know. I'm just not I'm just I know
how to do it. I just don't know if I
want to do it. And I go, Okay, you know
that's but that does happen. Sometimes you're good at something,
but you're just good at it. It doesn't mean you
want that as your job.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
You don't. You're not obsessed with it. Some things come natural.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
See, my cousin Vince, when he was like thirteen years old,
was like six four two fifty. Kid was an absolute monster.
And I was like, holy crap, this kid's gonna be
alignment for Notre Dame. This is amazing. He's going to
the NFL. And he couldn't care less about football. He
just wanted to be an accountant.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
And that's what he is to this day.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
And his like friends in high school I think made
him play football because they're like the coach's like, kid,
you're too big, Like you have to play, you have
to do this. But he just wanted to be an accountant.
He just wanted to crunch numbers. That's what he wanted
to do. He had no interest in football.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
And there it happens with a lot of people. You know,
you can have somebody who's great at math. They don't
like math, they're just really good at math. Hey, man,
you should be a scientist.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
I don't think so.
Speaker 7 (10:52):
Yeah, Todd, Well, maybe you do like it, but you
don't have the self confidence to be able to take
it to the next level. Yeah, and you've convinced yourself
there's no way I'm gonna be able to hit that
kind of level.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Of Also, when you become a star, like a Little
League World Series star, now all of a sudden, Hey
what happened to you?
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Everybody catches up to you.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
That's the difference between I'm really good at a really
young age, I'm twelve. Now what happens. And we've seen
a lot of these athletes, certainly Little League World Series.
You're like, man, was he great? Oh? Did he play
high school or baseball a little bit? Didn't play in college?
Speaker 5 (11:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (11:29):
That kid yesterday.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Lamina Male plays for Spain place for Barcelona. That kid
is an absolute superstar and he had a banger yesterday.
He's sixteen, sixteen, Yeah, yeah, he's one of the stories
about the Euros so far that people have been laughing about.
Is that or at least like, you know, leading up
to this was that he had to do his homework
all the time, Lamina. Mile's busy doing his homework while
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his teammates are like out getting dinner or something. He's like, oh,
I got a test or whatever. And he's an absolute
superstar sixteen.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
But you like Michael Jackson, he's in a musical family,
but you know, his dad Joe had to go, eh,
like special and he was like, there's just certain prodigies
where you just see it and you go, how is that?
Why did he get all the talent? His brothers are
just playing instruments. It's just that's you win the genetic pool,
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you win the lottery. And that's exactly what happens with
a lot of these talented athletes, musicians, artists. You know,
there's certain kids where you go, wait, he's graduating from
college with four degrees at twelve. Yeah, now I barely
got out of eighth grade, yes, Paul, And.
Speaker 6 (12:44):
Sometimes you think maybe it's just destiny. Like Michael Jordan's
the only person in his family over five ten. I
think you've met his brother. His brother's like five to eight.
All his parents and relatives were all like five seven,
five eight, five nine, and then there's this six to
sixth guy who becomes the greatest player of all time.
It doesn't make sense. Or like Serena and Venus Williams.
Venus Williams had a very good career, not diminishing it,
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a very good career. Serena had the greatest career of
all time. What's the difference? Like they both were raised
in the same household, with the same tennis lessons, with
the same dayag just.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
They're built different, right, But Venus Venus is today is
the older type tennis player. With her style, Serena was power.
You'd never seen that before. You have to go back
to Martina. She ushered in power and Serena took that
and it was just nobody was playing like that. And
also sometimes you get the younger sibling who succeeds or
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is a better athlete, better performer, whatever it might be,
but they benefited by being the younger sibling. There you
get to see your brother's sister. So it's just kind
of fascinating that you look now and we're also in
an arrow of sports where we have athlete Tom Brady's
playing until he's forty five, Lebron at forty it's not
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out of the question where you go, Khali, these guys
are still playing at a high level. Djokovic, he's old
in tennis, still playing at a very high level. But
that's what's amazing. You got both ends of the spectrum now.
Didn't used to be where you had players in their
upper thirties early forties still at the top of their game.
That's new in the last you know, ten to fifteen years,
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maybe ten years as far as phenoms. Somebody who's twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen,
that's been around, been around for a long long time
and will continue. But also you're looking at sometimes families
attach their future financial future to somebody who's really young. Hey,
he's a really good golfer. You know, we're going to
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move around, he's going to go to a different high school,
We're going to move like then all of a sudden,
you're putting pressure on that kid at twelve or thirteen, fourteen, fifteen,
you've got to succeed. We're counting on you. You see
this with actors in Hollywood. Hey you're nine and you're
on a sitcom. We're following you.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Yeah, there is some of that though, where you know,
it's not for everybody.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
There's obviously not just one path to get to where
we're talking about, but the only way for some people
that you can get there is to be all in.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
If you're kind of.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
Like, well, okay, yeah, give the basketball thing a try,
or give the acting thing a try, but after college,
well now it's too late, or you know what I mean.
There's times that you have to go all in at
twelve years old and move your family from you know,
Massachusetts to California because Tom House is going to start
training your kid.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Like okay, well yeah, this is how we have to
do it. You have to be all in.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
And Cooper Flagg's parents had to be all in that
he's leaving from Maine to go to Florida and doing
that a couple of years ago, and here he is
seventeen years of age. But I always go back to
Toddnovich and his dad, Marv Marinovich, and he wanted his
son to be robo quarterback and and Todd did succeed.
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He was a good USC quarterback and uh, I think
he played in some playoff games with the Raiders. Of course,
he's had some personal problems as well. I don't know
if his father pushing him fed into that. Like he
didn't have McDonald's like they're you know, he's famous for
you never had, you know, processed food, and you know,
he just wanted to live his life and be normal.
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He just didn't know what normal was. So parents can
sometimes ruin it. But when you have the you know,
something special, someone special, that's what's interesting. Now what role
do you play? But I always go back to how
bad do you want it? Because if you want it,
then I'm gonna want it. But I don't want to
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be the one waking you up, dragging you around the country,
you know, going to AAU events, playing in soccer matches
in four different states, hockey travel. I mean, parents are
wonderful when they're accommodating their son or daughter. It's when
it becomes about them, that's when it's a problem. We'll
take a break, we'll settle on a poll question. Just
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Remember when Drake came out and said he was betting
a million dollars I think on the MAVs to win
the finals, and he was betting a million dollars on
Edmonton to win the Stanley Cup final, and I picked
the Celtics and Florida. I go, I feel really good
about my bets. Well, Drake, I guess lost three hundred
thousand dollars yesterday because he had Argentina losing. So he
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he does bet on a variety of things. So Drake,
of course is, you know, betting on Canada. But he
lost three hundred thousand dollars betting on his country beating
the defending champs. And he posted an image on Instagram
that showed his bet would have given him two point
eight million dollars. But if Canada won, but Argentina going
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to their fourth final in the last five of these events.
Speaker 6 (19:38):
Here, man, I'm going to disagree with you. You can't
put a put price on Canadian goodwill.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Yeah, but I don't need to put money on my team,
my country, just the benefit of winning. You know, he
was betting on Dallas and Edmonton. Now I get Edmonton
with Canada Dallas. I don't know, why are you going
to take Dallas to win the NBA Finals? Now he
might look at it and go Floyd Mayweather always post
when he wins. Now, being a former gambler, you only
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want to talk about the wins. Nobody wants to talk
about the losses. But you lose far more than you win.
And it feels like Floyd wins every bed somehow, Drake
at least posts them, and I do respect that. I
just don't know if he's a very good gambler.
Speaker 8 (20:20):
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Argentina's soccer. Yeah, and it's got the Argentina players and
on top it says not like us.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Oh that's me wow, alamars. Yeah once again.
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Maybe Kendrick should perform at an Argentina soccer game, not
like poor Drake.
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TP Show, Good morning. If you're watching on Peacock and
our radio affiliates around the country also chat row operator
Tyler sitting by taking your phone calls. We spend a
lot of time talking about a phenom. You know, Cooper
Flag is seventeen. You're seeing athletes whether they're fourteen, fifteen, sixteen.
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There's an Olympic sprinter from the US. He's going to
be on the Olympic team. He's sixteen years of age.
Normally we see this with girls women that you know,
they mature sooner than you'll see somebody who's playing tennis
in there. Fourteen years of age doesn't happen on the
men's side because you need, you know, more power there
to be able to survive against you know, guys who
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have been playing for fifteen years. Then you also have
the athlete at the other end of the spectrum. You
know Joker, you know Novak Djokovic is playing still high
level tennis at his age. Lebron at his age, Chris
Paul is going to be playing for the Spurs. You
have Tom Brady with what he's done, Aaron Rodgers. So
you have this wide spectrum of when you start to
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when you finish and how long your careers can be
and the fact that you have, you know, Serena Williams
and Venus Williams against all odds getting out of Compton
and being able to be, you know, two of the
great players. One is Serena the greatest player of all time,
and Venus certainly had a very distinguished career. Tiger Woods
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when he started how young. And then you have to
have that dad who is there to enable you. I mean,
Tiger didn't have a normal childhood and because his dad
wanted him to be the greatest golfer in the world,
and he did become that, but there's always a price.
Like Michael Jackson, he was going to be the biggest
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singer in pop history and he became that, but at
what price? And that's where we're talking about the parents
and the role that you play and encouraging.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
There's nothing better than having a son or.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Daughter who wants to play, who loves to play, can't
wait to play. Nothing worse than dragging your kid to
baseball practice and they're like, you know, out there picking dandelions.
They do not want to be out there, but you
want them to be the next Mickey Mantle. That's the problem.
Kids just want to be kids. It's the parents who
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want the kids to be something that maybe they weren't,
and that's where it gets dangerous.
Speaker 8 (23:10):
Yes, mar Stefan Marberry is a guy I think about
because he had three older brothers that all played Division
one basketball and none of them made it to the NBA.
And if you watch the ninety six draft when he
gets drafted, he's crying. His entire family's crying, and it
feels like, so he got game is loosely based off
of Stefan Marberry because of the family pressure and everything
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that he had on him and all around Coney, Allen
and Brooklyn you knew this is the one. The other
three they didn't make it, but this is the one.
He was like the number one, like ranked sixth grader
at one point. And so you can see that type
of pressure, you know, get on somebody.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Yeah, and I get it. You know, for some families,
this is your way out. This is you know, we're
counting on you to get us out to better our lives.
And the pressure that's on somebody who's sixteen seventeen years
of age. Friday, July twenty sixth, the Olympic Games return
live from Paris on NBC and Peacock Pole.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Question from hour one, Seaton, and what are we going
to do with our.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
Two hour one we got up there? Which would be
worse USA Basketball losing to Canada or France. It is
a landslide that people do not want to lose to
Canada at all.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Okay, who's got better odds to win the gold medal?
Speaker 8 (24:23):
Now?
Speaker 2 (24:24):
United States prohibited favorite to win the gold medal? Which
country has the second best odds to win the gold medal?
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Drake, Drake Footing three hundred thousand, God, France, Seaton. It's
not France, it's Canada, Canada.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Yeah, Yeah, I'm gonna let Drake know that if he
wants to maybe place a bet with me, I'll take
team USA and he can have Canada.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Just said it.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Yeah, and we're going to bet one hundred dollars and
I'll give him his odds, but we'll just do one
hundre dollars.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Todd reached out to Drake and see if you'll shutting
things down for now.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
It's gonna lay low, Yeah, Usa, Canada, then France.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Serbia is right after France, and then Greece. That's it.
That's according to DraftKings. All right, Serbia.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Yeah, well they got joker. I wonder if they had
to convince him to play in the Olympics. You wouldn't
think they would because it's the Olympics. You get to
play for your country. But it just feels like once
the season's over, he just probably likes sit around and
look at his horses and drink beer. Yes, when is Olympics?
(25:50):
How long is Olympics? All right, so what's the poll
question for hour two season?
Speaker 4 (25:57):
People saying I hate to break the James nath Smith
was a Canadian, so that's good. Okay, Oh no, okay,
it's coming home.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Yeah, I love that James n.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Smith when he was, you know, putting up the peach
basket at Kansas.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
Yeah, well he was Canadian. Yeah, it's actually our game.
I love it.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Hey, you I take claim. I have no problem with that.
I love my neighbors to the north, wonderful people.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Yeah, wonderful people.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Yeah about winning Stanley Cup. What it's our game? Yeah,
it's our game.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Sunrise, Florida. Yeah, that's where hockey was.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
That's that's where does the Great One live in Sunrise, Florida.
But you imagine if Waino says, you know, I'm going
to relocate to Sunrise, Florida. You know, in the you
have to be in hockey country. All right, that's great,
that's great, all right. Gus Johnson will join us a
little bit later on today. The Mavericks introduced play Thompson
(27:06):
yesterday and Clay had this to say, leaving Golden State.
Speaker 9 (27:10):
Probably a little disappointed at first, but then as time
goes on, you have a lot of time to reflect
and you realize what you did.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
They can't take that away from you.
Speaker 9 (27:18):
As far as the championships or I mean, records are
meant to be broken, but the impact you have on
a community and all that that will forever live. And sometimes,
you know, breakups are necessary to do us right.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
All right. And he picked number thirty one as a
tribute to our good buddy Reggie Miller. He said he
grew up watching all that tape of Reggie trying to
get open, going over screens and you know, kind of
catch and shoot type of players. So he picked thirty one.
Here's Chris Paul. He's joining the Spurs.
Speaker 10 (27:53):
I played against him this season, and I tell you
there's probably no player in the league that everybody in
the league talks about after the game like him, because
everybody has their just stuff. Me and Harrison was on
our flight yesterday just talking about how cool it is
going to be at this point in our career is
to get a chance to appreciate him day in and
day out, you know, so I definitely hope.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
So he's talking about Victor Wembanyama.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
I could have set that up a little better, But
Chris Paul, they needed us point guard last year with Victor,
certainly in the first half of the season, he just
was out of place on the court. And a great
point guard, a good point guard, a veteran point guard,
can position you for success a little bit more. And
Chris is going to get plenty of playing time there,
(28:39):
and he's going to have to be there in a
mentorship role for Victor Wembanyama. That kind of interesting. Never
want a title, But you know when you talk about
people who never players who never want a title, you'll
always bring up Barkley Malone in Stockton. Well, Chris Paul
is a first BATEL Hall of Fame. I can't help
(29:01):
but think if the commissioner had not voided that trade
from the Pelicans, from New Orleans to the Lakers. Then
he would have had a title or two. But that's
when the NBA took ownership of, you know, the New
Orleans franchise, and the commissioner, David Stern said, I'm not
(29:23):
going to do that. He was worried about what was
going to happen to New Orleans franchise if you get
rid of Chris Paul competitive balance and you know, was
this a trade that was not going to benefit New Orleans.
And so because the NBA owned or took ownership, Chris
Paul never got to go to Los Angeles. Had a
(29:43):
lot of opportunities, played for really good teams, but Chris
Paul will probably end his career without winning a championship.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Yeah, Paul.
Speaker 6 (29:51):
That was twenty eleven, right after the lockout. It was
a three way deal between the Lakers, Hornets and Houston Rockets.
LA agreed to part ways of Pau Gasol and lamar
Odom exchange for the twenty six year old Chris Paul.
Speaker 5 (30:03):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (30:05):
Letting Paul gassall goal at that that's been a tough one.
Back then, he was pretty he was pretty good.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
I mean, yeah, but.
Speaker 6 (30:12):
The NBA David Stern vetoed it. There's miscommunications about it.
They said Genie Bus was very upset, tried hard to
file a protest and didn't work.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Chris Paul should sue the NBA. Maybe it's too late.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
I don't know the statute of limitations, but it'd be
like you caused me not winning a championship he.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
Had that one.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
Know, his whole legacy would be completely different, would it
if he had one? He might not just have one.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Yeah, I don't think he's singled out now, but I
don't know where he ranks of great point guards of
all time. His name doesn't come up with of all time,
but he's a first ballon Hall of Famer because if
you start at the point guard and you know, let's
take magic out of this. But is Chris Paul better
(31:02):
than Steve Nash? Is Chris Paul equal to Isaiah Is
he equal to John Stockton?
Speaker 9 (31:10):
Like?
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Is he Alan Ivers? Like?
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Where is Chris Paul and the pantheon of point guards here?
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Yes?
Speaker 8 (31:17):
Mark, So you know what I'm gonna take the Vinny
goodwill approach them at their peak? Who would you take?
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Would you take?
Speaker 5 (31:24):
Oh?
Speaker 8 (31:24):
Wait, Chris Paul? Would you take five? Steve Nash Steve Nash.
I'm gonna go Chris Paul because he took a really
good New Orleans team deep into the playoffs one year
and it was just like him and guys like Marcus
Thornton you have, but Nash won the m v P.
(31:46):
Chris Paul should have won MVP, but he didn't.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
No, but Steve Nash did. He won two.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Now, granted he only deserved one, Shack deserved the other one. Yeah,
at his peak, Okay, Stockton or Chris, I guess they're
pretty similar. It just Stockedon did the same thing every year,
in the same numbers, for the same thing. Everybody knew
(32:13):
exactly what he was going to do, and he still
did it. And you know, he'd give you what eighteen
and fourteen. I mean, he did that an entire career.
What hurts Chris Paul is he bounced around to so
many teams. But I don't I mean, he's not Isaiah
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who I mean, I don't know where is he a
he top ten point guard of all times?
Speaker 5 (32:42):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Is that fair? Okay?
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Yeah, I don't want to sell him short. I just
because he didn't win a title. It just what bothers
me more is he kept bouncing around. Great players don't
bounce around like that.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (32:57):
More, you know what, because I'm an NBA junkie, I
think wherever he went he made the team better automatically.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
Yeah, I'll give you that.
Speaker 8 (33:04):
Like he had Oklahoma City in the playoffs, it was
just him and Marcus Thorton.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
You're right about okay, see because I remember, like, man,
they are a lot better than they should be.
Speaker 6 (33:16):
Yeah, Paul, Chris Paul led the league and assists five times.
He actually led the league in steels six times. But
you know what I think may hurt him. His style
play is unspectacular. It's not above the women any way.
It's meandering, it's efficient. It's almost a Tim Duncan like
as a point guard, where it's it's an efficient it's undefendable.
(33:38):
But if you put a highlight team together, it's not
gonna be really fun to watch.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
I think he had more highlights at Wake Forest when
he played in college than in the NBA.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Like he he was always like fifteen footer like there
there wasn't anything where he went mound.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Do you see that? And and he's probably known more
for maybe some cheap shots. That he's had in his career. Yeah,
when you're doing lug nuts, I mean, you know, that's
not good.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
But if he's allowed to go to the Lakers in
twenty eleven, yeah, does he end up on you know,
all those other teams? Does he end up in Houston,
Oklahoma City, Phoenix, Golden State.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
I don't know. I don't know. I don't know him.
Speaker 4 (34:28):
It's kind of crazy that that happened. Yes, that David
Starns was in charge of a team, and then I
was like, uh no, I say no to this tree.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Yes, but his job was to protect New Orleans. He
had to protect He did the right thing from the
standpoint of protecting the team that needed protection instead of going, hey,
let's let the Lakers get another great player. So he
went against conventional wisdom of making your league better by
having a better team than you know, keeping New Orlean
(35:00):
float there. If they still let him leave, yeah, eventually,
I just you know, and I think it went right.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Instead of going to the Lakers, he went to the Clippers. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Yeah, once again, statute of limitations. I don't know if
you can sue the estate of the Lake Commissioner David Stern.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
All Right, let me take a break back After this.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAPP.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Gus Johnson will be on the call with Bill Raftery
Christina Pink for USA basketball the matchup against Canada that's
tonight at ten thirty Eastern on FS one. Gus Johnson,
the Fox Sports play by play announcer, joining us on
the program.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
Hi, Gus, how are you.
Speaker 5 (35:50):
Wow?
Speaker 9 (35:51):
Man?
Speaker 5 (35:51):
I feel like I'm coming in from the wilderness now
that I'm finally back on the Dan Patrick Show. I
mean it's been literally I haven't been on your show
because you don't love me anymore. Dan, I don't know
what happened.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Man.
Speaker 5 (36:04):
We ain't folk no more.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
It's been over.
Speaker 5 (36:07):
I've been at Fox for fourteen years and this is
the first time I've been on your show since I
came over the Fox. So I was just letting you
know that today is just like such a wonderful day
to me. I feel like I've accomplished so many things
and I just feel like I'm on my way up
some kind of beautiful ascending mountain and I'm going to
reach the peak and have an opportunity to look out
(36:29):
over the entire landscape because now I'm back on.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
I don't know Gus. II think you need to get
a better researcher, Fritzi.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Will you do the.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Homework and tell me the last time Gus Johnson was
on the program.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
All right, we're gonna.
Speaker 5 (36:42):
Bet and me and my friends we have bets we
call We're gonna bet a mystical dollar me and you
one mystical dollar that I'm going to beat you in
this bed. And it's been over fourteen years.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
I'm going to take the under. Paulie, would you locate
the last time Gus was on.
Speaker 6 (36:56):
We're all over? But I know we had him on
college basketball related with in the past ten years.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
No kind, okay, not mythical dollars.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Maybe I'm running my way. You might be the drake.
You might be the drake of bets. Uh with announcers,
So you're going to lose the hold.
Speaker 5 (37:12):
On, hold on, hold, on, hold, on, hold on hold.
I got to stop you right there. No, no, no, no,
I would never be the drake of anything you say.
I'm an American nothing drake.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
No, not me. Don't say that, not me. Are you going,
Kendrick Lamar here.
Speaker 5 (37:28):
Hey, listen, listen, You're you're diving into a pool that
you really don't Don't say that. Okay, don't say that
to me. I'm an American, I'm not a Don't compare
me to Drake.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
Let me get in the pool. Let me right now over.
Speaker 5 (37:41):
The next one to one to two years, or compare
me to anybody but Drake right now.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
Tell me what you're expecting with this Olympic team, and
is it on par or four or is it more
talented than the Dream Team which we've been led to
believe with recent articles here.
Speaker 5 (38:03):
Well, I just got some information today that Kawhi Leonard
will not be playing in the Olympics. Yeah, because he
is injured. And is it better than the Dream Team?
I wouldn't agree. I wouldn't say that, you know. No,
I think that they got a good team, but I
think they have an older team that has injuries. Kevin
Durant's got a little nick le, Bron's thirty nine years old,
(38:27):
Stef's getting older now Kawhi is not playing. I don't
think they have the h the same firepower as the
Dream Team. No, I wouldn't say.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
That at all. Well, they don't have a Jordan, and
they don't. I don't think they have a Jordan or Berkley.
And those two were you know, Charles I think won
the MVP maybe the year after the Dream Team, and
we of course Mike was in his prime.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
Now that was that was kind of a banged up
roster too.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
You know, Larry Bird wasn't Larry Bird at the time,
but you know that was that was a pretty good
All I know is I still had Mike going out
there every single game. And they don't have Michael Jordan.
Nobody does, but well.
Speaker 5 (39:08):
Not they don't have the Lebron James in his prime.
I think maybe that's what you're saying. Yeah, you're right,
You're right, they don't. But they have a good.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
Team, a great team.
Speaker 5 (39:17):
That's the Hall of Fame type roster. If they can,
you know, if they can stay healthy and get through
the entire gauntlet of the games at the Olympics, I
think they can win the gold medal. But I don't
think it's going to be easy at all. This team
Canada squad. I've watched them in practice the last two
days and they're very enthusiastic and confident with their speed
(39:41):
and agility, and also with their talent level with SGA
leading the way, So they're going to be good. And
you know, Serbia and a number of different countries around
the world, France with all the great young talent that
they have out there. But I think the United States
and they got Steph Curry, Lebron, James, Devin Booker, all
(40:02):
these stars. Hopefully Kevin Durant he can get healthy and
and they'll put on a good show and come home
with another gold medal.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
What would be more embarrassing for Team USA to lose
to Canada or lose to France in the Olympics.
Speaker 5 (40:17):
Well, they lost to Canada last year the Feeble World Cup.
It's a different roster, totally different roster for the Americans,
a couple of holdovers. I don't think anything is gonna
you know, don't. I don't think it's embarrassing anymore because
these are NBA players playing against NBA players a lot
of times, and these are pro players playing against pro players.
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I think that losing to either one of them will
be a hit embarrassing. I wouldn't say that, but I
think they expect to win it, but they know they're
going to have to play their best basketball to win it.
So it's like six on one hand, half a dozen
on the other.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
We're talking to Gus Johnson, Fox Sports play by play announcer,
frequent guest in The Dan Patrick Show, Paulie, when's the
last time Gus was on the show?
Speaker 6 (41:10):
Now I can confirm Gus spring of twenty eleven, and
you said fourteen years, that would be thirteen years.
Speaker 11 (41:20):
I got it with you know what, guy goes to
the runner. I don't know if we had happened.
Speaker 5 (41:32):
What happened?
Speaker 9 (41:32):
Man?
Speaker 5 (41:32):
You fell out of love with me when I was
the CBS.
Speaker 6 (41:34):
You loved you.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
Man.
Speaker 5 (41:35):
Now you know, well I talked to you fourteen years.
We're going to round that up to the you know,
highest number because it just sounds better. Fourteen better sounds
better than thirteen.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Was this back when Northern Iowa, when Ali Funesh was starring?
Speaker 3 (41:51):
I think that when I think us was on that call?
Were you on that call?
Speaker 5 (41:57):
Had no idea?
Speaker 3 (42:00):
Wait, I'm following your career.
Speaker 5 (42:02):
Remember what I did last, Remember what I did last
twenty years ago?
Speaker 2 (42:07):
You know what I'm saying, Where's the strangest place you've
been recognized with your voice.
Speaker 5 (42:14):
Strangest place I've been recognized. Well, I would incriminate myself
if I actually told you the truth. But look at
it this way. It's some very strange, strange places that
you would never expect. You know, I have had you.
(42:38):
Weren't you?
Speaker 2 (42:38):
Weren't with James Harden in Houston? Were you where you
got recognized?
Speaker 3 (42:42):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (42:43):
Never about me? You know, you know I travel a lot.
You know, I've been traveling a lot for the last
thirty five years. So I've I've had some experiences, and
I have been recognized in places, Uh, in places that
that I didn't think people leave it really new I existed.
Speaker 3 (43:05):
So okay, I'll just leave it at that magic city. Yeah,
I understand that expensive for me.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
We're seven weeks out until college football. What do you
how do you prepare for what you think college football
is going to be like? Or when will you prepare
for the shifting landscape? I mean, I don't think you
ever think. Let's look at it like this, Dad, Our
jobs are the easiest jobs in the history of mankind
(43:36):
for people like us that love sports.
Speaker 5 (43:39):
So prepare What does prepare mean? That's an interesting word?
Because you're always interested in it in college football, and
you never kind of stop preparing because you're always interested
in what's going on. And last year we had such
an exciting season with Dion and he started out in Colorado.
We had a bunch of his early games and he
(44:00):
beat TCU first game on the road, and then we
segue from you know, Dion to Jim Harball and what
was going on with him with the Big Ten and
the NCAA investigation and then Harball getting suspended and then
Jerome war coming in as the Michigan interim head coach
and leading them all the way to the Big Ten championship,
(44:22):
and Cheron wore beating Ohio State so and then Harball
coming back and we weren't there after the championship. When
Harball coaching the championship Big Ten Championship, that was So
we had an exciting season. I'm always looking at it.
I'm always interested in what's going on in college football.
Speaker 3 (44:41):
And now I'm so.
Speaker 5 (44:42):
Exciting with UCLA, USC Oregon and Washington moving into the
Big Ten. So the schedule looks good for everybody, I
mean not only US in NBC and CBS. Some good
games that are going to be shown on television overall platforms.
So I'm always looking at him and I'm always interested
in We got an exciting schedule coming up. We got
(45:04):
Texas and Michigan week two. I think I'm really looking
forward to seeing that when yours coming back again for
Texas as their quarterback arch manning their backup quarterback now
and going into ann Arbor taking off Michigan now with
a new quarterback, most likely a kid named alex Orgi.
A big, strong, physical I mean, just built like a
Greek god, like a domistist kid, alex Orgi. He's from Texas,
(45:28):
African American kid. So it's always something to pay attention to.
There's always some good hot stove topics. So man, I'm
always interested in what's going on with college football. I
prepare as soon as the season ends, which is just
keeping up on what's going on.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
Talking to Gus Johnson, Fox Sports, played by a play announcer.
He'll be on the call tonight. It's a team USA
versus Canada. That's a ten thirty Eastern on FS one.
Where do you stand on the Cooper flag bandwagon? You
in first class seat?
Speaker 5 (46:00):
First class? Oh bit? You know, not only a man
first class. I'm a first class lying on United Arab Emirates.
I don't know if you've been on that plane. Talk
about the first class. And then there's United Arab Immirates. Folks, wait,
what's that first class? Off the move? It's out of
the world, It's off the charts being on the United Emirates.
(46:24):
I took a flight over I think from New York
to London one time on that flight and it's just
it's amazing and it's the greatest first class I've ever
been in. So when you asked me the question about Coop,
I'm in United Arab Emirates first class with this young man.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
I mean.
Speaker 5 (46:41):
And I was thinking about him because I knew you
were going to talk to me about him today, and
I figured you would ask me a question like what
makes it is he standing out? And my answer, as
I thought about it last night, I said, yes, he
is standing out because he's not standing out, meaning on
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what day did that come to practice? I went to practice.
First practice was Monday. They had a great scrimmage between
the national team and the select team that they have
the practice against them, and I was watching because I
can't take my eye Dan. I can't excuse me for rambling,
but I can't take my eyes off Lebron James because
(47:26):
I've never seen Lebron James prior to Monday practice. I've
never seen him practice. I had a chance to watch
him practice the last two days, and what's amazing to
me is, here's a man that's arguably the greatest player
in the history of the game of basketball, who you know,
has a very very good argument to become to be
(47:48):
the goat. And as I watched him practice, and I
kept my eyes on him the entire time both days,
he worked like well Lebron James in practice worked like
he was trying to make the team at thirty.
Speaker 3 (48:09):
I mean his.
Speaker 5 (48:10):
Energy, his determination, his commitment, all that stuff. He plays
so hard. So to answer your question about Cooper Flag,
does he stand out? No, Well, that was my question.
Does he stand out? No, he doesn't stand out because
he just fits in like he's just normally a part
of this situation. And he's seventeen years old. I saw
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Lebron James checking him, checking him in the scrimmage, and
Cooper Flag was playing point guard at seventeen years old
at sixty nine against Lebron James, and he he didn't flinch.
It was nothing. It was just like he's playing against
some kids that he played against in high school a
(48:53):
few months back in Maine. I mean, this kid, it's
it's you know, it's really amazing as a sportscaster, especially
a guy that's always on the road and still walks
into the locker rooms unlike a lot of you know,
people in today's are sportscasting, you know, working locker rooms
and being around people. It's so interesting when you run
(49:16):
into a person.
Speaker 10 (49:19):
That is.
Speaker 5 (49:21):
Special, just as a baby, as a young person, and
you just see the future, like Lebron James when he
was a kid out of high schools on Sports Illustrator,
I'll never forget the chosen One. This Cooper Flag is
the real deal. And it's just I was thinking as
I was watching them, I was like, here's a kid
(49:42):
that's seventeen years old playing against not only the best
players in the world, but some of the greatest players
of all time, playing with them, fitting in, not dominating,
but being effective. And he's seventeen and now what is
this July? So he's got August, so he's got another month.
Then he's gonna walk onto a college campus and have
to play against college kids. This is gonna be phenomenal
(50:06):
to watch. Just I mean, I can't wait to watch
a duke and he's only gonna be there for a year,
so he's gonna be the number one player in the Drive,
there's no question about it. I mean, we are looking
at the future of the NBA, the future of American basketball,
which makes me feel good because if you look, you're
seeing all these international guys winning the MVP, mvs. Dantage's jokes,
(50:33):
Antony Coumbo's and now you got a guy like Anthony Edwards,
who the young up and coming cat American and this
Cooper flag is gonna be uh, he's gonna be special
over the next fifteen years. So it's just it's a treaty,
you know. I was sitting there saying to myself, I
can't believe that they pay me to do this. But
I'm not gonna tell anybody. You know, Dan, don't tell nobody, Man,
(50:55):
I won't tell nobody. They pay us for this, right,
I promise you. So we'll talk to you in twenty
thirty eight. Does that sound about right? Next time we'll
have you on well, I mean that's usually what kind
of schedule you had me on, so but I'll be here.
Speaker 3 (51:12):
Thanks for doing otherwise.
Speaker 5 (51:14):
Everything good, Yeah, you're doing otherwise. I haven't spoken to you.
Speaker 7 (51:17):
You good.
Speaker 5 (51:17):
You've always treated me great.
Speaker 2 (51:19):
Everything's good, no complaints. I still get to do this, guys,
That's that's the fun part. I mean, after a while,
I don't take it for granted. But I'm very fortunate
that you know, you survive, and this is it's a
young person's business and you just try to make sure
they eventually tap you on the shoulder and say come here,
(51:39):
bring your playbook. But until then, we get to do
it every day.
Speaker 5 (51:45):
That's what's up, man, And you're absolutely right. Words can't
express the amount of gratitude that I have put a
good to the Good Lord for allowing me to do
this for a living in this particular lifetime. But I
don't think it's a young man's game one hundred percent.
I think it's a game of men, and I think
guys like us who have survived that bring a certain
kind of wisdom to this job and to the covering
(52:07):
and the chronicling and the you know of sports is
a big deal and you do a fantastic job. You
have always I learned a lot from you. As I
mentioned to you about fifteen years, haven't been on the
show when with sixty seventeen, eighteen years, something like that.
It's still twenty eleven. Great job, twenty eleven. It's been
kind of a mentor. You've always kind of been kind
(52:28):
of a mentor because not only you know, are you Dan?
Are you credible as a journalist, but you know, you
just have a way, a style of grace about yourself.
And I really admire of that. And I'm really a
big fan of you and your shows and everything you've
done during your your illustrious career.
Speaker 2 (52:45):
You know, if you keep talking that way, I'm going
to have you on probably on Monday again.
Speaker 3 (52:49):
It does, you know.
Speaker 5 (52:50):
That's what I'm hoping.
Speaker 2 (52:54):
Get my best to wrap and tonight you got it.
It'll be ten thirty Eastern. It'll be Team US say
against Canada. Thank you, Gus for joining us.
Speaker 5 (53:02):
All right, man, you gotta guys, thank you for having
me Dan. I'll talk to you so.
Speaker 2 (53:06):
Gus Johnson, Fox Sports play by play announcer. I didn't
realize it had been that long.
Speaker 6 (53:11):
Yes, well after the twenty eleven n SA Tournament Gus
took the big job at Fox, mostly football, and you know,
he's very missed at the CBS. In the nca Tournament,
he was fantastic at the turnament.
Speaker 2 (53:24):
See if they let j Billis do games. I thought
that they would let Gus do a couple of them.
Speaker 6 (53:30):
Foxes look great if they loaned out Gus for a
couple of nca Tournament games.
Speaker 2 (53:33):
And I know you want to develop your announcers, play
by play announcers, younger announcers.
Speaker 3 (53:37):
I get that, but it would have been nice.
Speaker 2 (53:39):
I like, I wanted Dick VI Town to get a
chance to do a big game because I don't know
who's been more instrumental in selling the game of college
basketball than Dick EV. And I know DICKYV listens to
the show and I and I hope he's feeling better.
His cancer is back, and you know he lost his
good friend Howie Schwa. So yeah, Dick is surrounded by
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great people, but you know, he's been the face and
the voice of college basketball for such a long long time.
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covering the US Olympic team. Summer League basketball continues, and
everybody spots somebody and they go, wow, that is going
to be great. Once again, I'm going to caution you
the Summer League is littered with guys who are Wow,
that guy is gonna be great, and then they disappear.
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You know, you get it into an atmosphere where and
it feels like everything is run up and down the
floor and shoot threes. That's what the Summer League is.
But occasionally you'll get some players who know how to
play and they will play in the NBA. But as
far as playing at a high level, what you do
in the Summer League doesn't equate to stardom in the NBA. Right,
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So we have a poll question today. Gus will join
us a little bit later on. We've been talking about
Cooper Flag, seventeen year old going to Duke. He's playing
against the Olympic team and holding his own and you
start to wonder about when does somebody become a phenom.
When do the parents realize this? Do they realize it
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before the athlete does. We've had athletes in tennis as
young as what thirteen for Capriotti. They're there on the
center stage, they're playing in big events. In fact, tennis
has a lot of players, especially on the women's side
of tennis, that they're able to be there and play
at a high level at a younger age than the
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men track and field, you have a sixteen year old
who's going to be representing the United States in track
and field. Basketball is a little trickier, although you can
go back to Lebron when he was sixteen playing against
NBA players holding his own Bryce Harper when he was
fifteen or sixteen on the cover Sports Illustrated. You just
(02:38):
have like the genetic lottery that you hit, But then
you also have to have parents who are and they
may border on being obsessive, but you have to sometime,
Like Tiger's dad was obsessive with Tiger, and if you
watch the documentary on Tiger, his parents tell his dad
tells him to break up with this girl that he
(02:59):
really likes her. He writes her a letter and says,
I got to break up with you. She's like, why
my dad told me to. He didn't want anybody or
anything to get in the way of Tiger being great.
You look at Venus and Serena Williams, their father he
was not going to let anything get in the way,
including their upbringing in Compton. They are on sixty minutes
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and you're thinking, how are they able to be as
great as they are given the surroundings that they're growing
up in. But parents can be great. Parents can always
ruin things too. But you have a seventeen year old
kid who grew up in Maine and he is now
the number one high school player in America and projected
(03:43):
to be the number one pick. Now we've seen this before.
Freddie Adu was a soccer player and he was supposed
to be the next great player and he never turned
out to be. I think he kind of burst on
the scene at fifteen. You have the hits and missus,
but sometimes you get that one and oh, oh my goodness,
that person is destined for greatness. But the role that
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parents play, coaches play, and also that player himself, because
I think we all grew up with, you know, athletes
who were like, oh my god, he's so much better
than everybody else, but they matured quicker. I remember playing
against a guy in eighth grade and I go, I'll
never be as good as him. He didn't make the
freshman team, but in eighth grade he was unbelievable. That's
(04:30):
what happens. They stop, you continue, but then you have
to want to be great. That's another thing. It's not
your parents want you to be great. It's when the
child wants to be great, then the parents should follow suit,
not the other way around.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Yes, that's one of.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
The things that people had been saying about Cooper Flagg.
I think I don't know if it was Kevin Durant
or not, that somebody had said, like, you could just
tell that this kid wants to be great like he
wants it, he wants to be the guy.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
And you got to have that, because I've been around parents,
been around coaches, and they will tell you he just
doesn't want it, like it comes too easy for you.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Want that kid? Who you got to go?
Speaker 5 (05:12):
Dad?
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Can you come out hippie grounders? Dad? Can you throw
me BP?
Speaker 5 (05:16):
Dad?
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Would you rebound for me? Like you want to have that?
Speaker 2 (05:20):
And when you have that, then as a parent, it's
exciting because it's not like I gotta drag Timmy out
and having shag flies. Come on, we're going to the
driving range on it's too hot. It's when the kid
is obsessed and then you follow suit. Too many times
it's parents who go come on yet, because we live
(05:43):
vicariously through our children. If we didn't succeed, or the
guy who almost had the college career or he almost
was a great high school player. Now you see yourself
and your son or daughter and you're like, come on,
get out there and do it for me. Whether they
say that or not, it is implied you want your
son or daughter to succeed. Parents take great pride in that.
(06:06):
Hey look what I did. Look what we did out there.
But you have to have something in your mind, that
DNA that says I want to be great and nothing
is going to stop me. Because you wouldn't expect a
kid in Maine to be the number one player in
America in high school basketball, going into college basketball and
(06:26):
going to be the projected number one pick. But you
wouldn't have expected Serena Williams coming out of Compton to
be the best female tennis player of all time.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
And who's this kid? Tiger Woods and he's going to.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Take on everybody, And at age two or three he's
on a TV show. Get you can't script these things.
You have to have it just falls into place. But
the son or the daughter and the role they play
of wanting it is really key because a lot of
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time the parents want it more than the child does.
All right, we'll come up with the pole question here,
But yeah, we were kind of looking at this with
the tennis players at Wembledon, I mean even eighteen years
of age, that's not young, not anymore. Certainly on the
female side of the draw. You know, you get fourteen
fifteen years of age, but a male track star at
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sixteen that's really unheard of. You'll get some fast, you know,
track and field athletes at that age, but then to
go to the Olympics, that's different. So they're just certain
players and certain athletes. And I always look at, you know,
the lineage here your dad play, mom play. Look at
(07:43):
Christian McCaffrey's parents and grandparents, great athletes. Mahomes' dad major
League Baseball player, Griffy with his father, I mean Tiger.
You know his dad was a athlete, not anywhere.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Near what he is.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Kobe Bryant, his dad play like you you have that
where you go your dad play?
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Now? No, my mom is all American volleyball player. Okay,
like it.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
They's somewhere in the tree, the DNA tree where you go.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Oh okay, yeah that guy. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
See Brad on Twitter brings up a good one too.
He has Katie Ledecki. She won a gold medal at fifteen. Yeah,
I think kind of out of nowhere. Well you find
that though also with female swimmers. While Missy Franklin I
think was really young, like you, Dearren Torres, like there's
a lot of you know, women mature quicker sooner and
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have that opportunity to be able to compete before you know.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Boys, we're goofy, we're gangly. Yeah, gold medal at fifteen,
it's it's pretty good. Yes, yeah, yeah, Paul.
Speaker 6 (08:50):
I think you hit it on the head. It helps
if your father or mother played basketball. I looked at
Cooper Flag both parents played small college basketball mate, so
it comes from a basketball family. But the gift when
they say an athletes gifted, was Michael Jordan gifted with
leaping ability and coordination? Or was his gift a maniacal
desire to win and improve? Lebron's gift is being six '
(09:11):
eight and coordinated and jacked, but also to work out
like that? Or Kobe Bryant was his gift? Is it
basketball jumping ability and leaping ability or being a maniac
about working out?
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Maybe that's the gift.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
But also when you realize you have it, the question
is do you want to cultivate it? Because there are
a lot of people who have a lot of talent.
And I was around a woman who's beautiful singer, and
I go, why don't you do this for livning? Why
you know, why don't you explore this? And she goes,
I don't think so, and I go why and she said,
(09:47):
I don't know. I'm just not I'm just I know
how to do it. I just don't know if I
want to do it. And I go, Okay, you know
that's but that does happen. Sometimes you're good at something,
but you're just good at it. It doesn't mean you
want that as your job.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
You don't. You're not obsessed with it. Some things come natural.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
See, my cousin Vince, when he was like thirteen years old,
was like six four two fifty. Kid was an absolute monster.
And I was like, holy crap, this kid's gonna be
alignment for Notre Dame. This is amazing. He's going to
the NFL. And he couldn't care less about football. He
just wanted to be an accountant.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
And that's what he is to this day.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
And his like friends in high school I think made
him play football because they're like the coach's like, kid,
you're too big, Like you have to play, you have
to do this. But he just wanted to be an accountant.
He just wanted to crunch numbers. That's what he wanted
to do. He had no interest in football.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
And there it happens with a lot of people. You know,
you can have somebody who's great at math. They don't
like math, they're just really good at math. Hey, man,
you should be a scientist.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
I don't think so.
Speaker 7 (10:52):
Yeah, Todd, Well, maybe you do like it, but you
don't have the self confidence to be able to take
it to the next level. Yeah, and you've convinced yourself
there's no way I'm gonna be able to hit that
kind of level.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Of Also, when you become a star, like a Little
League World Series star, now all of a sudden, Hey
what happened to you?
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Everybody catches up to you.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
That's the difference between I'm really good at a really
young age, I'm twelve. Now what happens. And we've seen
a lot of these athletes, certainly Little League World Series.
You're like, man, was he great? Oh? Did he play
high school or baseball a little bit? Didn't play in college?
Speaker 5 (11:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (11:29):
That kid yesterday.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Lamina Male plays for Spain place for Barcelona. That kid
is an absolute superstar and he had a banger yesterday.
He's sixteen, sixteen, Yeah, yeah, he's one of the stories
about the Euros so far that people have been laughing about.
Is that or at least like, you know, leading up
to this was that he had to do his homework
all the time, Lamina. Mile's busy doing his homework while
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his teammates are like out getting dinner or something. He's like, oh,
I got a test or whatever. And he's an absolute
superstar sixteen.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
But you like Michael Jackson, he's in a musical family,
but you know, his dad Joe had to go, eh,
like special and he was like, there's just certain prodigies
where you just see it and you go, how is that?
Why did he get all the talent? His brothers are
just playing instruments. It's just that's you win the genetic pool,
(12:22):
you win the lottery. And that's exactly what happens with
a lot of these talented athletes, musicians, artists. You know,
there's certain kids where you go, wait, he's graduating from
college with four degrees at twelve. Yeah, now I barely
got out of eighth grade, yes, Paul, And.
Speaker 6 (12:44):
Sometimes you think maybe it's just destiny. Like Michael Jordan's
the only person in his family over five ten. I
think you've met his brother. His brother's like five to eight.
All his parents and relatives were all like five seven,
five eight, five nine, and then there's this six to
sixth guy who becomes the greatest player of all time.
It doesn't make sense. Or like Serena and Venus Williams.
Venus Williams had a very good career, not diminishing it,
(13:05):
a very good career. Serena had the greatest career of
all time. What's the difference? Like they both were raised
in the same household, with the same tennis lessons, with
the same dayag just.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
They're built different, right, But Venus Venus is today is
the older type tennis player. With her style, Serena was power.
You'd never seen that before. You have to go back
to Martina. She ushered in power and Serena took that
and it was just nobody was playing like that. And
also sometimes you get the younger sibling who succeeds or
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is a better athlete, better performer, whatever it might be,
but they benefited by being the younger sibling. There you
get to see your brother's sister. So it's just kind
of fascinating that you look now and we're also in
an arrow of sports where we have athlete Tom Brady's
playing until he's forty five, Lebron at forty it's not
(14:02):
out of the question where you go, Khali, these guys
are still playing at a high level. Djokovic, he's old
in tennis, still playing at a very high level. But
that's what's amazing. You got both ends of the spectrum now.
Didn't used to be where you had players in their
upper thirties early forties still at the top of their game.
That's new in the last you know, ten to fifteen years,
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maybe ten years as far as phenoms. Somebody who's twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen,
that's been around, been around for a long long time
and will continue. But also you're looking at sometimes families
attach their future financial future to somebody who's really young. Hey,
he's a really good golfer. You know, we're going to
(14:47):
move around, he's going to go to a different high school,
We're going to move like then all of a sudden,
you're putting pressure on that kid at twelve or thirteen, fourteen, fifteen,
you've got to succeed. We're counting on you. You see
this with actors in Hollywood. Hey you're nine and you're
on a sitcom. We're following you.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Yeah, there is some of that though, where you know,
it's not for everybody.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
There's obviously not just one path to get to where
we're talking about, but the only way for some people
that you can get there is to be all in.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
If you're kind of.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
Like, well, okay, yeah, give the basketball thing a try,
or give the acting thing a try, but after college,
well now it's too late, or you know what I mean.
There's times that you have to go all in at
twelve years old and move your family from you know,
Massachusetts to California because Tom House is going to start
training your kid.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Like okay, well yeah, this is how we have to
do it. You have to be all in.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
And Cooper Flagg's parents had to be all in that
he's leaving from Maine to go to Florida and doing
that a couple of years ago, and here he is
seventeen years of age. But I always go back to
Toddnovich and his dad, Marv Marinovich, and he wanted his
son to be robo quarterback and and Todd did succeed.
(16:07):
He was a good USC quarterback and uh, I think
he played in some playoff games with the Raiders. Of course,
he's had some personal problems as well. I don't know
if his father pushing him fed into that. Like he
didn't have McDonald's like they're you know, he's famous for
you never had, you know, processed food, and you know,
he just wanted to live his life and be normal.
(16:29):
He just didn't know what normal was. So parents can
sometimes ruin it. But when you have the you know,
something special, someone special, that's what's interesting. Now what role
do you play? But I always go back to how
bad do you want it? Because if you want it,
then I'm gonna want it. But I don't want to
(16:49):
be the one waking you up, dragging you around the country,
you know, going to AAU events, playing in soccer matches
in four different states, hockey travel. I mean, parents are
wonderful when they're accommodating their son or daughter. It's when
it becomes about them, that's when it's a problem. We'll
take a break, we'll settle on a poll question. Just
(17:11):
getting started here. Back after this.
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(18:28):
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You know who's a bad better Drake?
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Remember when Drake came out and said he was betting
a million dollars I think on the MAVs to win
the finals, and he was betting a million dollars on
Edmonton to win the Stanley Cup final, and I picked
the Celtics and Florida. I go, I feel really good
about my bets. Well, Drake, I guess lost three hundred
thousand dollars yesterday because he had Argentina losing. So he
(19:09):
he does bet on a variety of things. So Drake,
of course is, you know, betting on Canada. But he
lost three hundred thousand dollars betting on his country beating
the defending champs. And he posted an image on Instagram
that showed his bet would have given him two point
eight million dollars. But if Canada won, but Argentina going
(19:33):
to their fourth final in the last five of these events.
Speaker 6 (19:38):
Here, man, I'm going to disagree with you. You can't
put a put price on Canadian goodwill.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Yeah, but I don't need to put money on my team,
my country, just the benefit of winning. You know, he
was betting on Dallas and Edmonton. Now I get Edmonton
with Canada Dallas. I don't know, why are you going
to take Dallas to win the NBA Finals? Now he
might look at it and go Floyd Mayweather always post
when he wins. Now, being a former gambler, you only
(20:05):
want to talk about the wins. Nobody wants to talk
about the losses. But you lose far more than you win.
And it feels like Floyd wins every bed somehow, Drake
at least posts them, and I do respect that. I
just don't know if he's a very good gambler.
Speaker 8 (20:20):
Yes, Marvin, I'm looking at a post, I guess from
Argentina's soccer. Yeah, and it's got the Argentina players and
on top it says not like us.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Oh that's me wow, alamars. Yeah once again.
Speaker 8 (20:34):
Maybe Kendrick should perform at an Argentina soccer game, not
like poor Drake.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
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TP Show, Good morning. If you're watching on Peacock and
our radio affiliates around the country also chat row operator
Tyler sitting by taking your phone calls. We spend a
lot of time talking about a phenom. You know, Cooper
Flag is seventeen. You're seeing athletes whether they're fourteen, fifteen, sixteen.
(21:04):
There's an Olympic sprinter from the US. He's going to
be on the Olympic team. He's sixteen years of age.
Normally we see this with girls women that you know,
they mature sooner than you'll see somebody who's playing tennis
in there. Fourteen years of age doesn't happen on the
men's side because you need, you know, more power there
to be able to survive against you know, guys who
(21:26):
have been playing for fifteen years. Then you also have
the athlete at the other end of the spectrum. You
know Joker, you know Novak Djokovic is playing still high
level tennis at his age. Lebron at his age, Chris
Paul is going to be playing for the Spurs. You
have Tom Brady with what he's done, Aaron Rodgers. So
you have this wide spectrum of when you start to
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when you finish and how long your careers can be
and the fact that you have, you know, Serena Williams
and Venus Williams against all odds getting out of Compton
and being able to be, you know, two of the
great players. One is Serena the greatest player of all time,
and Venus certainly had a very distinguished career. Tiger Woods
(22:09):
when he started how young. And then you have to
have that dad who is there to enable you. I mean,
Tiger didn't have a normal childhood and because his dad
wanted him to be the greatest golfer in the world,
and he did become that, but there's always a price.
Like Michael Jackson, he was going to be the biggest
(22:31):
singer in pop history and he became that, but at
what price? And that's where we're talking about the parents
and the role that you play and encouraging.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
There's nothing better than having a son or.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Daughter who wants to play, who loves to play, can't
wait to play. Nothing worse than dragging your kid to
baseball practice and they're like, you know, out there picking dandelions.
They do not want to be out there, but you
want them to be the next Mickey Mantle. That's the problem.
Kids just want to be kids. It's the parents who
(23:06):
want the kids to be something that maybe they weren't,
and that's where it gets dangerous.
Speaker 8 (23:10):
Yes, mar Stefan Marberry is a guy I think about
because he had three older brothers that all played Division
one basketball and none of them made it to the NBA.
And if you watch the ninety six draft when he
gets drafted, he's crying. His entire family's crying, and it
feels like, so he got game is loosely based off
of Stefan Marberry because of the family pressure and everything
(23:30):
that he had on him and all around Coney, Allen
and Brooklyn you knew this is the one. The other
three they didn't make it, but this is the one.
He was like the number one, like ranked sixth grader
at one point. And so you can see that type
of pressure, you know, get on somebody.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Yeah, and I get it. You know, for some families,
this is your way out. This is you know, we're
counting on you to get us out to better our lives.
And the pressure that's on somebody who's sixteen seventeen years
of age. Friday, July twenty sixth, the Olympic Games return
live from Paris on NBC and Peacock Pole.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Question from hour one, Seaton, and what are we going
to do with our.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
Two hour one we got up there? Which would be
worse USA Basketball losing to Canada or France. It is
a landslide that people do not want to lose to
Canada at all.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Okay, who's got better odds to win the gold medal?
Speaker 8 (24:23):
Now?
Speaker 2 (24:24):
United States prohibited favorite to win the gold medal? Which
country has the second best odds to win the gold medal?
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Drake, Drake Footing three hundred thousand, God, France, Seaton. It's
not France, it's Canada, Canada.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Yeah, Yeah, I'm gonna let Drake know that if he
wants to maybe place a bet with me, I'll take
team USA and he can have Canada.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Just said it.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Yeah, and we're going to bet one hundred dollars and
I'll give him his odds, but we'll just do one
hundre dollars.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Todd reached out to Drake and see if you'll shutting
things down for now.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
It's gonna lay low, Yeah, Usa, Canada, then France.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Serbia is right after France, and then Greece. That's it.
That's according to DraftKings. All right, Serbia.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Yeah, well they got joker. I wonder if they had
to convince him to play in the Olympics. You wouldn't
think they would because it's the Olympics. You get to
play for your country. But it just feels like once
the season's over, he just probably likes sit around and
look at his horses and drink beer. Yes, when is Olympics?
(25:50):
How long is Olympics? All right, so what's the poll
question for hour two season?
Speaker 4 (25:57):
People saying I hate to break the James nath Smith
was a Canadian, so that's good. Okay, Oh no, okay,
it's coming home.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Yeah, I love that James n.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Smith when he was, you know, putting up the peach
basket at Kansas.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
Yeah, well he was Canadian. Yeah, it's actually our game.
I love it.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Hey, you I take claim. I have no problem with that.
I love my neighbors to the north, wonderful people.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Yeah, wonderful people.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Yeah about winning Stanley Cup. What it's our game? Yeah,
it's our game.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Sunrise, Florida. Yeah, that's where hockey was.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
That's that's where does the Great One live in Sunrise, Florida.
But you imagine if Waino says, you know, I'm going
to relocate to Sunrise, Florida. You know, in the you
have to be in hockey country. All right, that's great,
that's great, all right. Gus Johnson will join us a
little bit later on today. The Mavericks introduced play Thompson
(27:06):
yesterday and Clay had this to say, leaving Golden State.
Speaker 9 (27:10):
Probably a little disappointed at first, but then as time
goes on, you have a lot of time to reflect
and you realize what you did.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
They can't take that away from you.
Speaker 9 (27:18):
As far as the championships or I mean, records are
meant to be broken, but the impact you have on
a community and all that that will forever live. And sometimes,
you know, breakups are necessary to do us right.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
All right. And he picked number thirty one as a
tribute to our good buddy Reggie Miller. He said he
grew up watching all that tape of Reggie trying to
get open, going over screens and you know, kind of
catch and shoot type of players. So he picked thirty one.
Here's Chris Paul. He's joining the Spurs.
Speaker 10 (27:53):
I played against him this season, and I tell you
there's probably no player in the league that everybody in
the league talks about after the game like him, because
everybody has their just stuff. Me and Harrison was on
our flight yesterday just talking about how cool it is
going to be at this point in our career is
to get a chance to appreciate him day in and
day out, you know, so I definitely hope.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
So he's talking about Victor Wembanyama.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
I could have set that up a little better, But
Chris Paul, they needed us point guard last year with Victor,
certainly in the first half of the season, he just
was out of place on the court. And a great
point guard, a good point guard, a veteran point guard,
can position you for success a little bit more. And
Chris is going to get plenty of playing time there,
(28:39):
and he's going to have to be there in a
mentorship role for Victor Wembanyama. That kind of interesting. Never
want a title, But you know when you talk about
people who never players who never want a title, you'll
always bring up Barkley Malone in Stockton. Well, Chris Paul
is a first BATEL Hall of Fame. I can't help
(29:01):
but think if the commissioner had not voided that trade
from the Pelicans, from New Orleans to the Lakers. Then
he would have had a title or two. But that's
when the NBA took ownership of, you know, the New
Orleans franchise, and the commissioner, David Stern said, I'm not
(29:23):
going to do that. He was worried about what was
going to happen to New Orleans franchise if you get
rid of Chris Paul competitive balance and you know, was
this a trade that was not going to benefit New Orleans.
And so because the NBA owned or took ownership, Chris
Paul never got to go to Los Angeles. Had a
(29:43):
lot of opportunities, played for really good teams, but Chris
Paul will probably end his career without winning a championship.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Yeah, Paul.
Speaker 6 (29:51):
That was twenty eleven, right after the lockout. It was
a three way deal between the Lakers, Hornets and Houston Rockets.
LA agreed to part ways of Pau Gasol and lamar
Odom exchange for the twenty six year old Chris Paul.
Speaker 5 (30:03):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (30:05):
Letting Paul gassall goal at that that's been a tough one.
Back then, he was pretty he was pretty good.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
I mean, yeah, but.
Speaker 6 (30:12):
The NBA David Stern vetoed it. There's miscommunications about it.
They said Genie Bus was very upset, tried hard to
file a protest and didn't work.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Chris Paul should sue the NBA. Maybe it's too late.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
I don't know the statute of limitations, but it'd be
like you caused me not winning a championship he.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
Had that one.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
Know, his whole legacy would be completely different, would it
if he had one? He might not just have one.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Yeah, I don't think he's singled out now, but I
don't know where he ranks of great point guards of
all time. His name doesn't come up with of all time,
but he's a first ballon Hall of Famer because if
you start at the point guard and you know, let's
take magic out of this. But is Chris Paul better
(31:02):
than Steve Nash? Is Chris Paul equal to Isaiah Is
he equal to John Stockton?
Speaker 9 (31:10):
Like?
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Is he Alan Ivers? Like?
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Where is Chris Paul and the pantheon of point guards here?
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Yes?
Speaker 8 (31:17):
Mark, So you know what I'm gonna take the Vinny
goodwill approach them at their peak? Who would you take?
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Would you take?
Speaker 5 (31:24):
Oh?
Speaker 8 (31:24):
Wait, Chris Paul? Would you take five? Steve Nash Steve Nash.
I'm gonna go Chris Paul because he took a really
good New Orleans team deep into the playoffs one year
and it was just like him and guys like Marcus
Thornton you have, but Nash won the m v P.
(31:46):
Chris Paul should have won MVP, but he didn't.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
No, but Steve Nash did. He won two.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Now, granted he only deserved one, Shack deserved the other one. Yeah,
at his peak, Okay, Stockton or Chris, I guess they're
pretty similar. It just Stockedon did the same thing every year,
in the same numbers, for the same thing. Everybody knew
(32:13):
exactly what he was going to do, and he still
did it. And you know, he'd give you what eighteen
and fourteen. I mean, he did that an entire career.
What hurts Chris Paul is he bounced around to so
many teams. But I don't I mean, he's not Isaiah
(32:37):
who I mean, I don't know where is he a
he top ten point guard of all times?
Speaker 5 (32:42):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Is that fair? Okay?
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Yeah, I don't want to sell him short. I just
because he didn't win a title. It just what bothers
me more is he kept bouncing around. Great players don't
bounce around like that.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (32:57):
More, you know what, because I'm an NBA junkie, I
think wherever he went he made the team better automatically.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
Yeah, I'll give you that.
Speaker 8 (33:04):
Like he had Oklahoma City in the playoffs, it was
just him and Marcus Thorton.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
You're right about okay, see because I remember, like, man,
they are a lot better than they should be.
Speaker 6 (33:16):
Yeah, Paul, Chris Paul led the league and assists five times.
He actually led the league in steels six times. But
you know what I think may hurt him. His style
play is unspectacular. It's not above the women any way.
It's meandering, it's efficient. It's almost a Tim Duncan like
as a point guard, where it's it's an efficient it's undefendable.
(33:38):
But if you put a highlight team together, it's not
gonna be really fun to watch.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
I think he had more highlights at Wake Forest when
he played in college than in the NBA.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Like he he was always like fifteen footer like there
there wasn't anything where he went mound.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Do you see that? And and he's probably known more
for maybe some cheap shots. That he's had in his career. Yeah,
when you're doing lug nuts, I mean, you know, that's
not good.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
But if he's allowed to go to the Lakers in
twenty eleven, yeah, does he end up on you know,
all those other teams? Does he end up in Houston,
Oklahoma City, Phoenix, Golden State.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
I don't know. I don't know. I don't know him.
Speaker 4 (34:28):
It's kind of crazy that that happened. Yes, that David
Starns was in charge of a team, and then I
was like, uh no, I say no to this tree.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Yes, but his job was to protect New Orleans. He
had to protect He did the right thing from the
standpoint of protecting the team that needed protection instead of going, hey,
let's let the Lakers get another great player. So he
went against conventional wisdom of making your league better by
having a better team than you know, keeping New Orlean
(35:00):
float there. If they still let him leave, yeah, eventually,
I just you know, and I think it went right.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Instead of going to the Lakers, he went to the Clippers. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Yeah, once again, statute of limitations. I don't know if
you can sue the estate of the Lake Commissioner David Stern.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
All Right, let me take a break back After this.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAPP.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Gus Johnson will be on the call with Bill Raftery
Christina Pink for USA basketball the matchup against Canada that's
tonight at ten thirty Eastern on FS one. Gus Johnson,
the Fox Sports play by play announcer, joining us on
the program.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
Hi, Gus, how are you.
Speaker 5 (35:50):
Wow?
Speaker 9 (35:51):
Man?
Speaker 5 (35:51):
I feel like I'm coming in from the wilderness now
that I'm finally back on the Dan Patrick Show. I
mean it's been literally I haven't been on your show
because you don't love me anymore. Dan, I don't know
what happened.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Man.
Speaker 5 (36:04):
We ain't folk no more.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
It's been over.
Speaker 5 (36:07):
I've been at Fox for fourteen years and this is
the first time I've been on your show since I
came over the Fox. So I was just letting you
know that today is just like such a wonderful day
to me. I feel like I've accomplished so many things
and I just feel like I'm on my way up
some kind of beautiful ascending mountain and I'm going to
reach the peak and have an opportunity to look out
(36:29):
over the entire landscape because now I'm back on.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
I don't know Gus. II think you need to get
a better researcher, Fritzi.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Will you do the.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Homework and tell me the last time Gus Johnson was
on the program.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
All right, we're gonna.
Speaker 5 (36:42):
Bet and me and my friends we have bets we
call We're gonna bet a mystical dollar me and you
one mystical dollar that I'm going to beat you in
this bed. And it's been over fourteen years.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
I'm going to take the under. Paulie, would you locate
the last time Gus was on.
Speaker 6 (36:56):
We're all over? But I know we had him on
college basketball related with in the past ten years.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
No kind, okay, not mythical dollars.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Maybe I'm running my way. You might be the drake.
You might be the drake of bets. Uh with announcers,
So you're going to lose the hold.
Speaker 5 (37:12):
On, hold on, hold, on, hold, on, hold on hold.
I got to stop you right there. No, no, no, no,
I would never be the drake of anything you say.
I'm an American nothing drake.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
No, not me. Don't say that, not me. Are you going,
Kendrick Lamar here.
Speaker 5 (37:28):
Hey, listen, listen, You're you're diving into a pool that
you really don't Don't say that. Okay, don't say that
to me. I'm an American, I'm not a Don't compare
me to Drake.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
Let me get in the pool. Let me right now over.
Speaker 5 (37:41):
The next one to one to two years, or compare
me to anybody but Drake right now.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
Tell me what you're expecting with this Olympic team, and
is it on par or four or is it more
talented than the Dream Team which we've been led to
believe with recent articles here.
Speaker 5 (38:03):
Well, I just got some information today that Kawhi Leonard
will not be playing in the Olympics. Yeah, because he
is injured. And is it better than the Dream Team?
I wouldn't agree. I wouldn't say that, you know. No,
I think that they got a good team, but I
think they have an older team that has injuries. Kevin
Durant's got a little nick le, Bron's thirty nine years old,
(38:27):
Stef's getting older now Kawhi is not playing. I don't
think they have the h the same firepower as the
Dream Team. No, I wouldn't say.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
That at all. Well, they don't have a Jordan, and
they don't. I don't think they have a Jordan or Berkley.
And those two were you know, Charles I think won
the MVP maybe the year after the Dream Team, and
we of course Mike was in his prime.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
Now that was that was kind of a banged up
roster too.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
You know, Larry Bird wasn't Larry Bird at the time,
but you know that was that was a pretty good
All I know is I still had Mike going out
there every single game. And they don't have Michael Jordan.
Nobody does, but well.
Speaker 5 (39:08):
Not they don't have the Lebron James in his prime.
I think maybe that's what you're saying. Yeah, you're right,
You're right, they don't. But they have a good.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
Team, a great team.
Speaker 5 (39:17):
That's the Hall of Fame type roster. If they can,
you know, if they can stay healthy and get through
the entire gauntlet of the games at the Olympics, I
think they can win the gold medal. But I don't
think it's going to be easy at all. This team
Canada squad. I've watched them in practice the last two
days and they're very enthusiastic and confident with their speed
(39:41):
and agility, and also with their talent level with SGA
leading the way, So they're going to be good. And
you know, Serbia and a number of different countries around
the world, France with all the great young talent that
they have out there. But I think the United States
and they got Steph Curry, Lebron, James, Devin Booker, all
(40:02):
these stars. Hopefully Kevin Durant he can get healthy and
and they'll put on a good show and come home
with another gold medal.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
What would be more embarrassing for Team USA to lose
to Canada or lose to France in the Olympics.
Speaker 5 (40:17):
Well, they lost to Canada last year the Feeble World Cup.
It's a different roster, totally different roster for the Americans,
a couple of holdovers. I don't think anything is gonna
you know, don't. I don't think it's embarrassing anymore because
these are NBA players playing against NBA players a lot
of times, and these are pro players playing against pro players.
(40:38):
I think that losing to either one of them will
be a hit embarrassing. I wouldn't say that, but I
think they expect to win it, but they know they're
going to have to play their best basketball to win it.
So it's like six on one hand, half a dozen
on the other.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
We're talking to Gus Johnson, Fox Sports play by play announcer,
frequent guest in The Dan Patrick Show, Paulie, when's the
last time Gus was on the show?
Speaker 6 (41:10):
Now I can confirm Gus spring of twenty eleven, and
you said fourteen years, that would be thirteen years.
Speaker 11 (41:20):
I got it with you know what, guy goes to
the runner. I don't know if we had happened.
Speaker 5 (41:32):
What happened?
Speaker 9 (41:32):
Man?
Speaker 5 (41:32):
You fell out of love with me when I was
the CBS.
Speaker 6 (41:34):
You loved you.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
Man.
Speaker 5 (41:35):
Now you know, well I talked to you fourteen years.
We're going to round that up to the you know,
highest number because it just sounds better. Fourteen better sounds
better than thirteen.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Was this back when Northern Iowa, when Ali Funesh was starring?
Speaker 3 (41:51):
I think that when I think us was on that call?
Were you on that call?
Speaker 5 (41:57):
Had no idea?
Speaker 3 (42:00):
Wait, I'm following your career.
Speaker 5 (42:02):
Remember what I did last, Remember what I did last
twenty years ago?
Speaker 2 (42:07):
You know what I'm saying, Where's the strangest place you've
been recognized with your voice.
Speaker 5 (42:14):
Strangest place I've been recognized. Well, I would incriminate myself
if I actually told you the truth. But look at
it this way. It's some very strange, strange places that
you would never expect. You know, I have had you.
(42:38):
Weren't you?
Speaker 2 (42:38):
Weren't with James Harden in Houston? Were you where you
got recognized?
Speaker 3 (42:42):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (42:43):
Never about me? You know, you know I travel a lot.
You know, I've been traveling a lot for the last
thirty five years. So I've I've had some experiences, and
I have been recognized in places, Uh, in places that
that I didn't think people leave it really new I existed.
Speaker 3 (43:05):
So okay, I'll just leave it at that magic city. Yeah,
I understand that expensive for me.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
We're seven weeks out until college football. What do you
how do you prepare for what you think college football
is going to be like? Or when will you prepare
for the shifting landscape? I mean, I don't think you
ever think. Let's look at it like this, Dad, Our
jobs are the easiest jobs in the history of mankind
(43:36):
for people like us that love sports.
Speaker 5 (43:39):
So prepare What does prepare mean? That's an interesting word?
Because you're always interested in it in college football, and
you never kind of stop preparing because you're always interested
in what's going on. And last year we had such
an exciting season with Dion and he started out in Colorado.
We had a bunch of his early games and he
(44:00):
beat TCU first game on the road, and then we
segue from you know, Dion to Jim Harball and what
was going on with him with the Big Ten and
the NCAA investigation and then Harball getting suspended and then
Jerome war coming in as the Michigan interim head coach
and leading them all the way to the Big Ten championship,
(44:22):
and Cheron wore beating Ohio State so and then Harball
coming back and we weren't there after the championship. When
Harball coaching the championship Big Ten Championship, that was So
we had an exciting season. I'm always looking at it.
I'm always interested in what's going on in college football.
Speaker 3 (44:41):
And now I'm so.
Speaker 5 (44:42):
Exciting with UCLA, USC Oregon and Washington moving into the
Big Ten. So the schedule looks good for everybody, I
mean not only US in NBC and CBS. Some good
games that are going to be shown on television overall platforms.
So I'm always looking at him and I'm always interested
in We got an exciting schedule coming up. We got
(45:04):
Texas and Michigan week two. I think I'm really looking
forward to seeing that when yours coming back again for
Texas as their quarterback arch manning their backup quarterback now
and going into ann Arbor taking off Michigan now with
a new quarterback, most likely a kid named alex Orgi.
A big, strong, physical I mean, just built like a
Greek god, like a domistist kid, alex Orgi. He's from Texas,
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African American kid. So it's always something to pay attention to.
There's always some good hot stove topics. So man, I'm
always interested in what's going on with college football. I
prepare as soon as the season ends, which is just
keeping up on what's going on.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
Talking to Gus Johnson, Fox Sports, played by a play announcer.
He'll be on the call tonight. It's a team USA
versus Canada. That's a ten thirty Eastern on FS one.
Where do you stand on the Cooper flag bandwagon? You
in first class seat?
Speaker 5 (46:00):
First class? Oh bit? You know, not only a man
first class. I'm a first class lying on United Arab Emirates.
I don't know if you've been on that plane. Talk
about the first class. And then there's United Arab Immirates. Folks, wait,
what's that first class? Off the move? It's out of
the world, It's off the charts being on the United Emirates.
(46:24):
I took a flight over I think from New York
to London one time on that flight and it's just
it's amazing and it's the greatest first class I've ever
been in. So when you asked me the question about Coop,
I'm in United Arab Emirates first class with this young man.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
I mean.
Speaker 5 (46:41):
And I was thinking about him because I knew you
were going to talk to me about him today, and
I figured you would ask me a question like what
makes it is he standing out? And my answer, as
I thought about it last night, I said, yes, he
is standing out because he's not standing out, meaning on
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what day did that come to practice? I went to practice.
First practice was Monday. They had a great scrimmage between
the national team and the select team that they have
the practice against them, and I was watching because I
can't take my eye Dan. I can't excuse me for rambling,
but I can't take my eyes off Lebron James because
(47:26):
I've never seen Lebron James prior to Monday practice. I've
never seen him practice. I had a chance to watch
him practice the last two days, and what's amazing to
me is, here's a man that's arguably the greatest player
in the history of the game of basketball, who you know,
has a very very good argument to become to be
(47:48):
the goat. And as I watched him practice, and I
kept my eyes on him the entire time both days,
he worked like well Lebron James in practice worked like
he was trying to make the team at thirty.
Speaker 3 (48:09):
I mean his.
Speaker 5 (48:10):
Energy, his determination, his commitment, all that stuff. He plays
so hard. So to answer your question about Cooper Flag,
does he stand out? No, Well, that was my question.
Does he stand out? No, he doesn't stand out because
he just fits in like he's just normally a part
of this situation. And he's seventeen years old. I saw
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Lebron James checking him, checking him in the scrimmage, and
Cooper Flag was playing point guard at seventeen years old
at sixty nine against Lebron James, and he he didn't flinch.
It was nothing. It was just like he's playing against
some kids that he played against in high school a
(48:53):
few months back in Maine. I mean, this kid, it's
it's you know, it's really amazing as a sportscaster, especially
a guy that's always on the road and still walks
into the locker rooms unlike a lot of you know,
people in today's are sportscasting, you know, working locker rooms
and being around people. It's so interesting when you run
(49:16):
into a person.
Speaker 10 (49:19):
That is.
Speaker 5 (49:21):
Special, just as a baby, as a young person, and
you just see the future, like Lebron James when he
was a kid out of high schools on Sports Illustrator,
I'll never forget the chosen One. This Cooper Flag is
the real deal. And it's just I was thinking as
I was watching them, I was like, here's a kid
(49:42):
that's seventeen years old playing against not only the best
players in the world, but some of the greatest players
of all time, playing with them, fitting in, not dominating,
but being effective. And he's seventeen and now what is
this July? So he's got August, so he's got another month.
Then he's gonna walk onto a college campus and have
to play against college kids. This is gonna be phenomenal
(50:06):
to watch. Just I mean, I can't wait to watch
a duke and he's only gonna be there for a year,
so he's gonna be the number one player in the Drive,
there's no question about it. I mean, we are looking
at the future of the NBA, the future of American basketball,
which makes me feel good because if you look, you're
seeing all these international guys winning the MVP, mvs. Dantage's jokes,
(50:33):
Antony Coumbo's and now you got a guy like Anthony Edwards,
who the young up and coming cat American and this
Cooper flag is gonna be uh, he's gonna be special
over the next fifteen years. So it's just it's a treaty,
you know. I was sitting there saying to myself, I
can't believe that they pay me to do this. But
I'm not gonna tell anybody. You know, Dan, don't tell nobody, Man,
(50:55):
I won't tell nobody. They pay us for this, right,
I promise you. So we'll talk to you in twenty
thirty eight. Does that sound about right? Next time we'll
have you on well, I mean that's usually what kind
of schedule you had me on, so but I'll be here.
Speaker 3 (51:12):
Thanks for doing otherwise.
Speaker 5 (51:14):
Everything good, Yeah, you're doing otherwise. I haven't spoken to you.
Speaker 7 (51:17):
You good.
Speaker 5 (51:17):
You've always treated me great.
Speaker 2 (51:19):
Everything's good, no complaints. I still get to do this, guys,
That's that's the fun part. I mean, after a while,
I don't take it for granted. But I'm very fortunate
that you know, you survive, and this is it's a
young person's business and you just try to make sure
they eventually tap you on the shoulder and say come here,
(51:39):
bring your playbook. But until then, we get to do
it every day.
Speaker 5 (51:45):
That's what's up, man, And you're absolutely right. Words can't
express the amount of gratitude that I have put a
good to the Good Lord for allowing me to do
this for a living in this particular lifetime. But I
don't think it's a young man's game one hundred percent.
I think it's a game of men, and I think
guys like us who have survived that bring a certain
kind of wisdom to this job and to the covering
(52:07):
and the chronicling and the you know of sports is
a big deal and you do a fantastic job. You
have always I learned a lot from you. As I
mentioned to you about fifteen years, haven't been on the
show when with sixty seventeen, eighteen years, something like that.
It's still twenty eleven. Great job, twenty eleven. It's been
kind of a mentor. You've always kind of been kind
(52:28):
of a mentor because not only you know, are you Dan?
Are you credible as a journalist, but you know, you
just have a way, a style of grace about yourself.
And I really admire of that. And I'm really a
big fan of you and your shows and everything you've
done during your your illustrious career.
Speaker 2 (52:45):
You know, if you keep talking that way, I'm going
to have you on probably on Monday again.
Speaker 3 (52:49):
It does, you know.
Speaker 5 (52:50):
That's what I'm hoping.
Speaker 2 (52:54):
Get my best to wrap and tonight you got it.
It'll be ten thirty Eastern. It'll be Team US say
against Canada. Thank you, Gus for joining us.
Speaker 5 (53:02):
All right, man, you gotta guys, thank you for having
me Dan. I'll talk to you so.
Speaker 2 (53:06):
Gus Johnson, Fox Sports play by play announcer. I didn't
realize it had been that long.
Speaker 6 (53:11):
Yes, well after the twenty eleven n SA Tournament Gus
took the big job at Fox, mostly football, and you know,
he's very missed at the CBS. In the nca Tournament,
he was fantastic at the turnament.
Speaker 2 (53:24):
See if they let j Billis do games. I thought
that they would let Gus do a couple of them.
Speaker 6 (53:30):
Foxes look great if they loaned out Gus for a
couple of nca Tournament games.
Speaker 2 (53:33):
And I know you want to develop your announcers, play
by play announcers, younger announcers.
Speaker 3 (53:37):
I get that, but it would have been nice.
Speaker 2 (53:39):
I like, I wanted Dick VI Town to get a
chance to do a big game because I don't know
who's been more instrumental in selling the game of college
basketball than Dick EV. And I know DICKYV listens to
the show and I and I hope he's feeling better.
His cancer is back, and you know he lost his
good friend Howie Schwa. So yeah, Dick is surrounded by
(54:03):
great people, but you know, he's been the face and
the voice of college basketball for such a long long time.
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