July 16, 2024 • 38 mins
On today's Dan Patrick Show, NBC Sports Mike Florio explained what the sticking points are between the Chicago Bears and No. 1 overall pick Caleb Williams. Plus, UConn Men's Head Basketball Coach Dan Hurley joined the program to discuss his decision to remain with UConn rather than taking the Los Angeles Lakers job.
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the program. US men's basketball yesterday afternoon, I watched that.
It was a tight one against Australia and they pulled
out the win. Once again, it's hard to really gauge
how hard you're trying. What's the philosophy here kind of
subbing out five and then putting in another five in there.
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They should win the gold medal. They are overwhelming favorites
to win the gold medal. I'm kind of curious who's
going to win the silver medal? Already jumping ahead to that,
but Australia played really well. Canada did not go toe
to toe with the United States. But once again, preliminary
type of exhibition games. Then you're going to get into
the real games, and that's where you want to see
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how these players play. And what we saw with a
team USA yesterday, Anthony Davis has played really well. Anthony
Edwards is still my favorite. He's the one who thinks
he's the go to guy, the number one option there.
I'm curious once they start playing, if you know Steph
Curry and Lebron go, hey, hey, hold on we're going
to take over from here. But watching that yesterday with Australia,
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that was fun. The All Star Game tonight in Arlington, Texas,
ti Oscar Hernandez and the Dodgers beat Bobby Witt Junior
the third for the home run Derby title. This is
what I love now. First of all, sthetically, that's not
a great ballpark where you're watching how far a home
run goes part of the beauty when you're watching home
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run Derby like Fenway, Oh my god, McGuire just put
it out on the highway that didn't really have that
backdrop where you went.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Man, that's deep.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
That is way up there, you know, like SkyDome or
something where Kinseko put one up in the upper deck.
And you know with a home run, that's what you
kind of want. You want something that helps you, like
the visually helps you under stand, Wow, that is deep.
Because there were a couple of home runs that were
almost four hundred and seventy.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Feet last night.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
That is and you know, we're I guess we're numb
to it now.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
With how far Otani hit one earlier this year that
I think was four to seventy six, that's the longest
home run this year. That was actually during a game.
Osuna hit one four seventy three last night. And to
really understand that, sometimes when you're hitting it up into
the stands, it's different than if you had somebody hit
a home run and then you just let it go
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and there was no outfield there and you got to see,
actually how far four hundred and seventy three feet is.
Sometimes you'll do that with map quest or GPS, where
you're like, all right, how far away am I? You know,
in five hundred feet? Turn right, and then you're like, oh, well,
that is a long way for a home run, five
hundred feet. And I go back to Mickey Mantle hitting
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out of ballparks. There I think the longest home run
ever hit and there's an asterisk by it. It might
have been Willie Stargel in Cincinnati hit one out of
Crosley Field, but it either went into a train car
or a truck that kept going, so the ball kept going,
so that went hundreds of miles probably. But you know,
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we're fascinated with the home run, not as fascinated.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
As we used to be.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
And you know, when you're watching the home run derby,
it kind of is like, oh, there's another home run,
and there's another home run. ESPN trying to dress it
up a little bit, bring in other elements, other voices.
Michael Buffer was there last night, you know, introducing the finalists.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
There.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
This is what I really like. I like that Bobby
Witt Junior was wearing his Royals uniform.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
If you're tuning in and you're not quite sure who
some of these younger players are, to see them in
their uniform, then all of a sudden, it's like, oh,
that's right, Oh the Orioles got a great shortstop. It
just kind of minds you of who they play for now.
It used to be Marvin pointed this out home run Derby,
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home run Derby, you would wear a National League or
an American League jersey uniform, and then you would wear
your team uniform in the game. I still like the
team uniforms in the game. I know it's about moving merchandise.
I get it. I just think for Major League Baseball
sometimes you have to say, how important is this the
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bottom line of money over marketing our players? You have
thirty two new players, first time All Stars. This is
where you want to put the name with the team,
not the name with the league, and I think Major
League Baseball misses out on that. But I did like
seeing that some of these players. You're like, who's he
played for? Oh he plays for the Dodgers. Oh, he
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plays for the Kansas City Royals. Oh he plays for Atlanta.
That's what you want, and Major League Baseball had that
last night, so I give them credit.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
It was fun. It was dramatic down to the very end,
and that's what you want.
Speaker 6 (06:03):
You know.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
It's a long, long, long movie. It's like a mini
series where you're going, oh my god, how many more episodes?
You got three more? Okay, how many more? Two more,
one more? And then you had a really good ending.
Bobby Witt Junior came inches away from tying it up.
But it was fun. It's fun last night, and hopefully
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you have a good All Star game. Paul Skeens is
going to start for the National League, so he goes
out there. Now, if nobody gets on base, he doesn't
face Aaron Judge. I think Aaron Judge is batting fourth.
I think he gets Soto batting third. To me, this
is where if I'm Major League Baseball, I say, hey,
we want Aaron Judge to lead off against Paul Skeens.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
Let's go.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
You don't want to miss on the opportunity.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Now, there's part of me that's like, I mean, I
want schemes to strike out, you know, the first three
and then he's done. But there's part of me that's like,
maybe strikeout and then the ball gets away from the
catcher and then somebody Soto gets on first, and then
Aaron Judge comes to the plate. This is what we want.
These are the moments that you want. You don't get
many of these, and that's what I hope that we
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get tonight. I do have odds here from DraftKings. How
many strikeouts will Paul's schemes are good? Buddy, have tonight
one or more, two or more, three or more. The
overwhelming odds are one or more, and then two or
more and then long shot for three or more. So
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minus three point fifty for one or more, two or
more is plus one thirty five and three or more
is plus five hundred.
Speaker 7 (07:44):
Yes, I would love to be able to bet on
his highest number on the radar gun.
Speaker 8 (07:49):
I don't know if that'd be a nice little prop
bet like Buco two U.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Okay, I don't see that, but maybe we can reach
out to DraftKings to see if there is a prop
bet on how hard Paul Skins will throw tonight, Yes, toun.
Speaker 9 (08:02):
If there was a way of measuring determination. Is Paul
Skins more determined to get these guys out of ideally
strike them out? Or the batter is to show who's
this rookie getting all this attention. I'm going to belt
one off of him right now in the All Star
Game in front of everybody.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Wait, so now we're playing the who's trying harder? Yes?
Who wants it more?
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Skiings on a batter tonight in front of the world.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
I would say it would be both.
Speaker 9 (08:25):
I don't think it's perfectly even though nothing in the
world is exactly fifty.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Okay, well then why don't you tell me what your opinion.
Speaker 9 (08:32):
I'm going to say the batter is a little more
psyched about, like I'm going to show this rookie and
show them up. I'm going to get at least a base,
hopefully a whole mint off this guy. And that's what
I think more than scheens like I got to strike
these guys out right now.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Okay, all right, thank you, Tom.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Nobody asks you how you were feeling. But I'm glad
that you brought up and let the nation.
Speaker 9 (08:51):
Fifty eight percent determination to the hitter forty two percent?
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Who was more determined tonight?
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Paul's schemes or the American Lagol's that first inning?
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Yeah, odds to hit a home run in the All
Star Game? Who has the best odds to hit a
home run tonight?
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Marvin? Who has the best odds? Aaron Judge blue bloo bloop.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
And then followed by Shoe Heyotani, Bryce Harper, Gunner Henderson,
your Dan Alvarez and Marcel Suna.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Who is the home run derby champ?
Speaker 2 (09:23):
So Aaron Judge plus three fifty and then show Heyotani
plus three eighty followed by Bryce Harper. All Right, Seaton
Poll question today is going to be on for the
first hour. Well, you were just talking about basketball. We
could say how confident are your team USA will win
a gold in basketball?
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Positive?
Speaker 10 (09:40):
If you're concerned, very positive, you're very positive they're winning
a gold. So you think that these close calls are
just them sort of going through the motions.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Yeah, I don't know if there's a formidable team that
I say wow on any given night, that team might
be able to beat Team USA.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
I don't know if you have that.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
You know, looking at Serbia and Greece, you know you
have Canada. France, like France would be the team that
I would say, okay, home court advantage with wen ben
Yama and Rudy Gobert. Okay, maybe, but that's just it.
There's a maybe, not like wow, watch out for that
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team Argentina or Spain and you know recent memory always
have formidable teams. But this year's team, Yeah, even if
Kevin Durant's not playing, you know, that's still a very,
very formidable team. Yes, Marv, I think we just.
Speaker 7 (10:36):
We should just say win Banyama because Rudy Gobert is
barbecue chicken to a lot of those big guys. Bam
out of Bayou and those guys, they're chomping at the
bit because look, look what happened to him during the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
He was getting abused.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Well, first of all, when you see say defensive player
of the Year, he shouldn't have been Defensive player of
the year. Defensive player of the year really is the
team Now one guy gets the award, But you know
he benefited from a team that's a really good defensive team.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Do I think Rudy Gobert scares people?
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Know? I think Victor wembn Yama does. And I would
have had him as the defensive Rookie of the Year
or defensive Player of the Year because the number of
shots that you know he is going to change. They
don't have a stat for that, at least I don't
think they do singularly. Nobody was talking about the Spurs
great defense. It was basically that they're just not a
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good team. Yet Minnesota was a really good defensive team.
And it's like Ben Wallace when Ben would win Defensive
Player of the Year with Detroit, that was a really
good team defensive you know effort that they put out
and Ben was the you know, the backbone of that.
He was the center fielder there, you know, cleaning up
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all the mess.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Yes, Marv.
Speaker 7 (11:50):
So, should shots altered be a stat?
Speaker 4 (11:53):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (11:53):
Like Hurriy's in the NFL. Yes, like Max Caros would
lead the league in hurries?
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Yes, because I think hurries is more important than sad
because sometimes we'll go, man, that guy had eighteen sacks, Okay,
how many hurries did he have? Because if I combine
sacks with hurries, Max Crosby might be your leader because
that guy he gets there, he doesn't get all the
way for a sack. But the hurries that could be
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thirty thirty five, forty that you have as opposed to, Hey,
that guy gets sacks. Okay, how often does he get
close to the quarterback?
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (12:29):
I think altering a shot is just as important as
blocking a shot.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Now, I get it.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Sometimes you block a shot and you're like, whoa man,
he threw that into the seventh row.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
It's like a dunk.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
All dunks aren't created equal, All home runs aren't created equals.
Sometimes you'll have a dunk where you go, oh boy,
that's going to leave a mark, or a home run
that is so deep and it sounds so majestic.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
It's like, oh.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Wow, that kind of hangs there the echo that you
have in the ballpark. But yeah, I would say when
you alter a shot. I don't know if they have
those stats, but hurries in the NFL, absolutely, I think
it's very important. All Right, what else do we have
seton for baseball?
Speaker 10 (13:11):
Which is more important or which is better selling all
Star jerseys or name and team recognition? Not meant to
be as snarky as maybe it's sounding well.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
We've had some problems with uniforms this year, so I
don't know if the rush for merchandise is going to
be that high, considering these uniforms have looked cheap. But
I do think the name recognition, the team name recognition,
is really important. But that's because you have thirty two
first time All Stars and you want to make sure
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that you understand, oh wow, he plays four. You're gonna
have moments tonight where you're going to see a player
and you're gonna go, oh wow, I didn't know.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
He played for Seattle.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
It's just because we're gonna familiarize ourselves with Major League
Baseball tonight. People will do that that this is a
you know, we're gonna be a crash studying here. This
is gonna be one of those Oh now I know
major League Baseball. Oh wow, he's the catcher for the Orioles.
Oh he's the short stuff for the That's what's gonna happen.
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Do we have the Paul's schemes? Bet on how hard
he will throw?
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Paulie I just got it in.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
I'm deciphering it right now.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Okay, that means wait and tease it. So after the commercial.
But that's code for what Paulie is saying is I've
got it. Why don't you wait until after the commercial break?
That's called good producing right there. All right, let me
take a break. What happened last night with the national anthem?
I don't know, but something happened last night, that's for sure.
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Mike Florio Pro Football Talk Live co host and contributed
to Football Night America. Also, Son of Mine is sequel
to Father of Mine, released on September third, available pre
order on Amazon. Mike kind enough to join us on vacation. So, Mike,
you know it's important if I'm interrupting your vacation to
ask you what it means that Caleb Williams doesn't have
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an agent right now.
Speaker 6 (16:05):
Well, in the grand scheme of things, it doesn't mean
much because he's using someone by all appearances to negotiate
with the Bears on his behalf. He said over the weekend.
He's not handling it. His lawyers are. The problem is
because he's not represented by an NFLPA certified agent, they
have to be very careful how they go about communicating
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with their Bears. I asked the league about the situation.
They said, the Bears told them we are negotiating with
Caleb Williams, even though Caleb says he's not handling it now.
One of the common devices when this goes on is
to set up a dummy email account that is supposedly
the player, but it's actually one of his representatives communicating
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with the team regardless there's no contract. I mean others
have gotten these deals done. There are five guys unsigned
right now. He's the only one who's not represented by
an agent. The other four, five guys in the first round,
I say, the other four aren't signed either. And there
isn't much to haggle about in this day and age
for NFL rookies. So the whole thing's weird. But yeah,
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it's awkward to say the least when Caleb Williams is
saying I'm not handling it and the Bears are telling
the league he is handling it.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
But aren't these draft picks slotted? Caleb Williams like, what
is left to negotiate?
Speaker 6 (17:22):
There's three things, Dan. One, when do they get their
signing bonus money. Some teams want to give you half
of it, for example, within thirty days, and then the
other half up to a year from now, which is
money in the bank vault for the team, and they
earn interest off of it, and.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
The more they can do that, the more money they.
Speaker 6 (17:38):
Ultimately make by holding that cash back. Number two, what
does it take for the future guarantees to avoid What
will the player do to allow the team to say
we're avoiding the guarantees and then we're going to cut
you because you end up being one of the players
who inevitably was a bust. Because we know the thirty
two guys taking in Round one, up to half of
them aren't going to work out, and the team might
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have an escape patch if the player does something he
shouldn't do, rip up the remaining guarantees. Because that we
hear about guaranteed contracts in the NFL all the time.
For the first round of the draft, all four years
of every player picked are fully guaranteed, So you're making
that investment blind as to whether or not the guy
is going to work out. So if he gets in trouble,
if he gets suspended, whatever it is, they can haggle
over the contours of the language that will allow the
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team to say we're out guarantees void. And then the
last one is if they do cut the guy with
remaining guarantees left, can he double dip with another team.
That's the offset language. If I get cut and you
owe me twenty million, I keep that twenty and I
make whatever I get somewhere else, the team will say
we want a credit for whatever you make somewhere else.
Those are the three issues signing bonus guarantee, void offset language.
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I'm trying to find out. Is there something else I'm missing?
But historically since twenty eleven, those have been the three
sticking points for rookie contracts.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Is it just a coincidence that you have Caleb Williams
and fellow Bear first round of roma Dounza also unsign.
Speaker 6 (18:58):
Well, it's possible Thatday's camp wants to see what they
do with Caleb Williams as it relates to the sunning,
bonus or void language wherever it is. Maybe Caleb Williams
is holding up the rest of the guys in round one.
JJ McCarthy the Vikings quarterback, I'm told and I haven't
written this yet at PFT, but I'm about to. The
Vikings haven't really engaged much with McCarthy's camp, and the
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thinking is he's a quarterback, Caleb Williams a quarterback. Let's
see what Caleb Williams does, Let's see what terms he gets,
and then we'll try to get the same as the
tenth overall pick versus the first overall pick. So the
Vikings have two guys in round one unsigned. The Bears
have two guys in round one and signed and it's
a little weird that of the five guys, four of
them come from two teams.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
How many quarterback contracts will be extended by the time
we start the season in your opinion.
Speaker 6 (19:47):
Well, I'm watching Jackrescott. I don't think he's going to
get an extension before the start of the season. I
think it would have happened by now. Matthew Stafford, two, Atonua,
Bai Loa, Jordan Love or the other three hotspots. And
it'll be interesting to see who holds out. You know,
you rarely have a veteran quarterback who's under contract hold
out of training camp. It's typically a rookie who hasn't
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signed a contract yet who would hold out. But Stafford
has been agitating for more guaranteed money beyond this year
because he's concerned they were going to dump him after
this year. And then when Jared Goff gets fifty three
million per year and Stafford's at forty, it's easy for
Stafford to say something's wrong with his picture. We don't
know what the Dolphins are going to do with Tua.
I think Jordan Love is the most likely to get
done before the Packers can be in training camp. I
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haven't heard anything yet to suggest they won't get it done.
But I'm watching Tua and what will he do if
they don't give him what he wants? And I'm just
kind of keeping a general eye of curiosity on Matthew
Stafford and the Rams because this has been hanging around
since April and they still haven't done a new deal
for him.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
When should we start to take the DeVante Adams being
traded or pairing up with Aaron Rodgers Again as this
serious story, I.
Speaker 6 (21:01):
Mean, there's a ton of smoke out there, and I
really don't know how to go about cutting through it
because you could search back through quotes and tweets and stories,
and it looks like Devontae Adams is content with the Raiders.
And this is as a practical matter, his last year
under his current contract. There's some big phony numbers on
the back end next year in the year after that
drove his average up. But I doubt that any team
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is going to honor. So this is basically it for
him with the Raiders. And if he wakes up one
day and says, I don't think this team is going
to get to where it needs to be, could you
please do something and move on and I could be
traded to the Jets, if the Jets even want to
do that. I mean, I wonder how much of this
is just players talking among themselves and if it ever
would come to the table of the people making the
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decisions in New York, if they would even do it,
because I think they decided to get out of the
Aaron Rodgers friends and former teams business after what a
disaster it was last year. But Devontae Adams is a
different story altogether. But you look at the receiving corps.
Do they need him? Can they make the financial investment?
It really would you know, restart the whole Jets type
that we saw last year if they would get him.
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But for now, I'm just kind of like, let's see
where this goes. It might just be talked among players.
We've got to see if the teams are willing to
do anything.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
The big settlement with Sunday Ticket the NFL. If I
subscribed to Sunday Ticket and part of this lawsuit, how
much money do fans should they expect to get out
of this settlement?
Speaker 6 (22:24):
Well, there's twelve seasons in all that are tied up,
and I assume that if this money and it's all
pending on appeal. The NFL is going to fight this
too and nail all the way to the US Supreme Court.
It'll take multiple more years, day and before it gets resolved.
But if at the end of the day that fourteen
billion dollars judgment, we've heard the number four point seven,
but the moment of verdict becomes a judgment, an official judgment,
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it automatically gets tripled under the anti trust laws to
fourteen billion. And I kind of did the rough math,
probably five six thousand dollars if you had it the
whole time, maybe even a little bit more than that.
So this isn't your typical class action where you get
coupons or you know, fifty sense for bus fare. When
it's all said and done, there could be real money
flowing back to people. And people need to understand what
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this case was about, because I don't think it was
covered the way.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
It should have been.
Speaker 6 (23:10):
The customers got screwed on this deal. The NFL deliberately
overcharged through direct TV. The NFL told DirecTV this is
the allegation that the jury accepted. You've got to charge
a very high price so that a lot of the
people will just say I don't want this. I'm going
to watch the games available on my local CBS and
Fox affiliate. Because CBS and Fox were fanatical. That was
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the word used by Steve Bornstein, who used to run
NFL media, fanatical about Sunday ticket not cannibalizing their ratings.
So the NFL wanted this thing price so high so
fans wouldn't have the choice. They didn't want people to
use Sunday ticket. That's what the case is about. So
there was a lot of money spent by the people
who really wanted those games, Dan, and they may ultimately,
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it's still a few years away, but they may ultimately
get a lot of that money back.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
You Mike, Sorry to interrupt your vacation.
Speaker 6 (24:03):
Great to talk to you, Dan.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
That's Mike Floria.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
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Speaker 2 (24:15):
He is Dan Hurley, yukon hit basketball coach back to
back national championships, turned down the Lakers joining us on
the program here. First of all, congratulations. Second of all,
did you splurge on anything new contract? What did you
buy that might surprise us.
Speaker 5 (24:35):
I mean, I'm thanks Dan, and thanks for having me. Man. Nothing.
Speaker 12 (24:41):
I actually the like that I thought about was, you know,
they got I got the Raptor pickup truck, you know,
which was like a big driver for us winning it.
So I looked at maybe like, uh like a vintage Bronco,
like one of those like cool vintage Broncos.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
But uh, I just I didn't get anything. You got nothing.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
How important is your truck to you?
Speaker 5 (25:08):
That is? Uh, it's like my armor. I love that truck.
I love it. I love it.
Speaker 12 (25:13):
I got hooked on pickup trucks watching watching Yellowstone. Yeah,
I kind of think I'm kind of like, uh rip,
you know, like the rip of college coaches.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
But are you a different person when you get behind
the wheel of your Raptor.
Speaker 12 (25:30):
Oh yeah, it's like an alter ego, you know, like
you do you You're in a different mode. I only
drive it during the season. I drive it during the winter.
I drive it with October, uh as the season is
getting closer. And then I'll drive it all the way
to the end. And then I get it. Uh you know.
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I take care of the engine and I get it,
you know, really cleaned well. And then I put it
away for the summer, and I treat her. I'll I'll
go in the garage and i'll, you know, I'll talk
to it and and I'll let it know I care
about it.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
But didn't you have your car stolen the first date
you had with your now wife?
Speaker 12 (26:17):
Yeah, that that happens, and I think she knows that, Like,
I'm not like the super romantic type. That wasn't a
setup like to kind of keep her at my house.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
You couldn't take her home because you had your car stolen.
Speaker 12 (26:36):
Yes, And the next day her parents were her parents
were coming to campus to take her to breakfast and
they that was gonna be my first time meeting them.
So it was like a pretty awkward. I wasn't able
to get her daughter back to campus. I think they
had to pick her up at my apartment.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
So if the Lakers would have thrown in a vintage
two door.
Speaker 5 (27:06):
You know, the company is in California, so there wouldn't
have been any shipping.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Could they have done anything?
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Looking back on it, was there anything else they could
have done that might have swayed you?
Speaker 5 (27:19):
It was it was all about really.
Speaker 12 (27:23):
Like how I want to coach and where I want
to coach like college, I think is the perfect place
for me to coach. Yukon is the is the perfect
place for me to coach in college. That like meeting
Rob and Jeanie Buss and they were awesome and it
had like, uh, they almost made me want to do it.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
But it's just you know, where do I belong? You know?
Speaker 12 (27:50):
Where do I get to coach the way I really
want to be a coach? You know the great thing
about being a college coach, Dan is I get to
pick the players. I get to to set the tone
every day here. I decide when when planes leave, I
decide when we eat, I decide when they go to sleep.
I could take their phones away at meals. And you know,
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like you just have You know, you don't have as
much control as you used to as a college coach.
You still are an environment as a coach where you have,
I think, the greatest impact on whether your team can
be successful.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Let me let me know if you followed this same
kind of feeling. I was up for a job. I
was going to leave ESPN, went to another city, wined
and dined, told me all the great things. Money was great,
and I was ready to take the job. Come back home,
sit down, reality sets in, and my wife says, what
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is it that you don't have here? And then I
just I said, you're right. You come back from LA
with your wife, You're ready to take the job. You
can't turn this down. It's Lebron, it's the money, it's La,
it's the Lakers. And then you come back home reality
sets in.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Similar.
Speaker 12 (29:11):
Yeah, I think so even you know, going to the
went to a concert at MSG and uh, just being
you know.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
Watching Billy Joel and MSG, like being in New York.
Speaker 12 (29:23):
Uh, you know, just being a guy from Jersey and
you just knowing how comfortable you are, how happy you are,
just your life couldn't be better. Why would you mess
with that at this at this point? Uh?
Speaker 5 (29:38):
But it was, it was It was tough. It was tough.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Well, also, tell me if this is true that you
and your wife are texting each other like one two three,
like are we staying or going?
Speaker 3 (29:49):
One two three? Are we staying? Did you do that
multiple times?
Speaker 2 (29:52):
And what happened if your wife says let's go as
opposed to we're staying.
Speaker 12 (30:01):
I mean I think I had obviously for making career decisions,
I've got veto power.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
In that she's got. Are you sure about that?
Speaker 6 (30:13):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (30:14):
I think well?
Speaker 12 (30:15):
And in like who we're going to recruit and how
we're going to play, maybe not exactly where we're going
to live. But you know, I was surprised that a
lot of people were surprised that that we make decisions
as a family that way.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
But what if you wanted to go?
Speaker 5 (30:33):
I would have. I would have, you know, I would have.
I would have convinced my family to do it.
Speaker 12 (30:39):
I would have convinced her to do I don't think
she was excited to go from Wagner to Rhode Island.
I mean I dragged her, you know, from Staten Island
to to the to to to the beautiful state of
Rhode Island, like kicking and screaming to a degree.
Speaker 5 (30:54):
So but I was surprised that people were surprised that.
Speaker 12 (30:58):
We make decisions like as as a family there as
a family that way. My wife knows me better than
anybody in the world, and there's no greater strength that
I have in making any decisions than my faith in
my family. My faith in my family been the fuel
behind everything that's good in my life.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Talking to Dan Hurley, the Connecticut head basketball and coach,
But you start to look at what you did as
a player or what you didn't do like the underdog,
Like you're not an underdog anymore, But how do you
convince yourself to still be an underdog or have that mentality?
Speaker 12 (31:36):
No, in my mind, I still am an underdog. My
path and coaching makes me an underdog. You know, having
been an assistant high school coach, having been an assistant
college coach, having paid dues for nine years as a
high school head coach, and then a low Division one
coach and then a mid major, you know, when I
look around my profession, there's not you know a lot
(31:58):
of coaches at a lead schools that have had to
pay those dues alone the way and have had to
prove themselves at in such a I don't want to
say a humbling manner, but in a much more traditional manner,
the way coaches used to have to earn opportunities like
the one that I have now at Yukon. So as
you're looking for different things to give you an edge,
(32:19):
even you know, when you achieve like what we've achieved,
and when you're at the top of the sport, I
still find plenty of things to you know, to create
friction or to create an edge relative to the people
I'm competing against when I see them on the road
recruiting or wherever.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
How will recruiting change, if any changes, now that like,
you guys are the favorites, you're not an underdog. Now
you can go out and go after those top ten recruits.
I don't know if you've you've always gone after that
feels like you're picking the right people for the system
that you have, not the biggest name for the system
you have.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
Well, I think.
Speaker 12 (33:03):
It's uh, it's a challenge not to get away from
the type of people that that have gotten us to
where we are now that we have access to more
five stars and and and obviously you know what we're
the you know, we're the like the shiny it program
right now, Like we just can't get away from our
identity in getting the type of people that are attracted
(33:26):
to stores Connecticut, like serious people that yeah they they
have uh they got the NBA aspirations, but that they
understand that when they come here, like we're looking for
win win situations. We're looking for like you've got to
deliver us championships while we help you get to the NBA.
It can't just be you know, we got you to
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the NBA, because that is not enough when you when
you put the Yukon uniform on.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
All right, the NBA question, how will you answer that
whenever you get that phone call that will inevitably happened.
Speaker 12 (34:01):
Yeah, I think down the line. I think as we look,
you know, years down the line. Obviously the contract and
the commitment that Yukon made to me. I never thought
i'd I'd be doing this for a living like this,
So you know, I think that's something that's going to
(34:21):
be like years down the line for me at the
absolute appropriate time. But that's not something that I'll even
be on my radar Dan like, I'm I had my
chance to kind of see what that looks like, and
I think that'll suffice for for several years now.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
I think for me, how important the chance to make history.
How much did that factor in coming back for a
three peat?
Speaker 12 (34:50):
Huge, huge factor, The chance to potentially match something that
John wouldn't it that's crazy, I mean, that's it's the
mind blowing. Those U c l A teams, the u
c l A program, Alex Caraban coming back to school,
recruiting these players in like Liam McNeely, who who commits
(35:13):
to you just a couple of weeks earlier, and seeing
his face while that whole situation was going on, you know,
and then like the way people in this state, knowing
how important Yukon is to the like to the state
of Connecticut, to the people of Connecticut, how they view
me here at this point, that meant that means a lot,
you know, like the way you received So it was
(35:36):
a lot that went into it.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Did you talk to Lebron personally and tell him that
you weren't taking the JOm.
Speaker 12 (35:44):
No, but we had some conversation and that was that
was exceptionally cool moment to communicate with one of the greatest.
And then you know, post uh, you know, post decision,
I reached out for him and uh, you'll let him
know that my offensive system would be really good for
(36:05):
any James sons that play moving forward in college.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
Who's the best coach in the Hurley family?
Speaker 4 (36:18):
Now?
Speaker 5 (36:19):
Oh, still about that? Okay, he's here, he's here today.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
I'll tell him. I set a low tell him he gets.
Speaker 12 (36:26):
To practice an hour before just to watch the player's
rotation on their shot.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
But if you go three pete though, Dan he's I mean,
I mean, you got to be up. You've got to
be getting closer to Mount Everest there with your dad.
Speaker 5 (36:40):
Yeah, I fight three Pete.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
I think he's second best.
Speaker 12 (36:44):
Yeah, and yeah, and then but I know, you know,
just knowing how competitive we all are, you know, you know,
Bob's loaded up with a roster. So Bob both of
us in his sights.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Before I let you go, we had Gino Orima on
that that day and he said he had talked to
you the night before, jokingly said, you know about you
being the Lakers head coach. He said he had no
idea that you were being offered this job, and he said,
if it was up to him, he would tell you
to have taken that job.
Speaker 12 (37:14):
Well, I became aware maybe uh uh, like maybe a
half hour before that appearance, that that that word was
trickling out, that that there had been conversations and it
was potentially, uh you know, going.
Speaker 5 (37:32):
To be a meeting. Uh.
Speaker 12 (37:33):
And then the next day it dropped in the morning.
So I was staring at him like wondering, like did
he know, Like.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
What are the odds though, Dan, that he says to you,
you could lead the Lakers to whatever playoff birth or
whatever the conversation was, and you're thinking, how does he
know this?
Speaker 5 (37:57):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 12 (37:59):
I mean, I know, you know, is like the goat
of all goats, but like, like how does he does
he know? So I was so distracted at that hour appearance.
They were asking me questions up on the dais next
to him, and like I would, I'm all I can
think about is did Gino know something?
Speaker 5 (38:17):
And Gino's my guy.
Speaker 12 (38:19):
So if I don't say something and he knows it,
now I've just lost my you know, my my buddy.
Speaker 5 (38:26):
So it was a bad spot he put me in.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
Good to keep you in the state and thanks for
joining us.
Speaker 5 (38:33):
Dan, You're the man, brother, Thank you.
Speaker 4 (38:35):
Thank you Dan.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
That's Dan Hurley.
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ESPN Radio over four hundred cities around America that carry
the program. US men's basketball yesterday afternoon, I watched that.
It was a tight one against Australia and they pulled
out the win. Once again, it's hard to really gauge
how hard you're trying. What's the philosophy here kind of
subbing out five and then putting in another five in there.
(01:32):
They should win the gold medal. They are overwhelming favorites
to win the gold medal. I'm kind of curious who's
going to win the silver medal? Already jumping ahead to that,
but Australia played really well. Canada did not go toe
to toe with the United States. But once again, preliminary
type of exhibition games. Then you're going to get into
the real games, and that's where you want to see
(01:53):
how these players play. And what we saw with a
team USA yesterday, Anthony Davis has played really well. Anthony
Edwards is still my favorite. He's the one who thinks
he's the go to guy, the number one option there.
I'm curious once they start playing, if you know Steph
Curry and Lebron go, hey, hey, hold on we're going
to take over from here. But watching that yesterday with Australia,
(02:17):
that was fun. The All Star Game tonight in Arlington, Texas,
ti Oscar Hernandez and the Dodgers beat Bobby Witt Junior
the third for the home run Derby title. This is
what I love now. First of all, sthetically, that's not
a great ballpark where you're watching how far a home
run goes part of the beauty when you're watching home
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run Derby like Fenway, Oh my god, McGuire just put
it out on the highway that didn't really have that
backdrop where you went.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Man, that's deep.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
That is way up there, you know, like SkyDome or
something where Kinseko put one up in the upper deck.
And you know with a home run, that's what you
kind of want. You want something that helps you, like
the visually helps you under stand, Wow, that is deep.
Because there were a couple of home runs that were
almost four hundred and seventy.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Feet last night.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
That is and you know, we're I guess we're numb
to it now.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
With how far Otani hit one earlier this year that
I think was four to seventy six, that's the longest
home run this year. That was actually during a game.
Osuna hit one four seventy three last night. And to
really understand that, sometimes when you're hitting it up into
the stands, it's different than if you had somebody hit
a home run and then you just let it go
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and there was no outfield there and you got to see,
actually how far four hundred and seventy three feet is.
Sometimes you'll do that with map quest or GPS, where
you're like, all right, how far away am I? You know,
in five hundred feet? Turn right, and then you're like, oh, well,
that is a long way for a home run, five
hundred feet. And I go back to Mickey Mantle hitting
(03:57):
out of ballparks. There I think the longest home run
ever hit and there's an asterisk by it. It might
have been Willie Stargel in Cincinnati hit one out of
Crosley Field, but it either went into a train car
or a truck that kept going, so the ball kept going,
so that went hundreds of miles probably. But you know,
(04:18):
we're fascinated with the home run, not as fascinated.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
As we used to be.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
And you know, when you're watching the home run derby,
it kind of is like, oh, there's another home run,
and there's another home run. ESPN trying to dress it
up a little bit, bring in other elements, other voices.
Michael Buffer was there last night, you know, introducing the finalists.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
There.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
This is what I really like. I like that Bobby
Witt Junior was wearing his Royals uniform.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
If you're tuning in and you're not quite sure who
some of these younger players are, to see them in
their uniform, then all of a sudden, it's like, oh,
that's right, Oh the Orioles got a great shortstop. It
just kind of minds you of who they play for now.
It used to be Marvin pointed this out home run Derby,
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home run Derby, you would wear a National League or
an American League jersey uniform, and then you would wear
your team uniform in the game. I still like the
team uniforms in the game. I know it's about moving merchandise.
I get it. I just think for Major League Baseball
sometimes you have to say, how important is this the
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bottom line of money over marketing our players? You have
thirty two new players, first time All Stars. This is
where you want to put the name with the team,
not the name with the league, and I think Major
League Baseball misses out on that. But I did like
seeing that some of these players. You're like, who's he
played for? Oh he plays for the Dodgers. Oh, he
(05:49):
plays for the Kansas City Royals. Oh he plays for Atlanta.
That's what you want, and Major League Baseball had that
last night, so I give them credit.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
It was fun. It was dramatic down to the very end,
and that's what you want.
Speaker 6 (06:03):
You know.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
It's a long, long, long movie. It's like a mini
series where you're going, oh my god, how many more episodes?
You got three more? Okay, how many more? Two more,
one more? And then you had a really good ending.
Bobby Witt Junior came inches away from tying it up.
But it was fun. It's fun last night, and hopefully
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you have a good All Star game. Paul Skeens is
going to start for the National League, so he goes
out there. Now, if nobody gets on base, he doesn't
face Aaron Judge. I think Aaron Judge is batting fourth.
I think he gets Soto batting third. To me, this
is where if I'm Major League Baseball, I say, hey,
we want Aaron Judge to lead off against Paul Skeens.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
Let's go.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
You don't want to miss on the opportunity.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Now, there's part of me that's like, I mean, I
want schemes to strike out, you know, the first three
and then he's done. But there's part of me that's like,
maybe strikeout and then the ball gets away from the
catcher and then somebody Soto gets on first, and then
Aaron Judge comes to the plate. This is what we want.
These are the moments that you want. You don't get
many of these, and that's what I hope that we
(07:16):
get tonight. I do have odds here from DraftKings. How
many strikeouts will Paul's schemes are good? Buddy, have tonight
one or more, two or more, three or more. The
overwhelming odds are one or more, and then two or
more and then long shot for three or more. So
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minus three point fifty for one or more, two or
more is plus one thirty five and three or more
is plus five hundred.
Speaker 7 (07:44):
Yes, I would love to be able to bet on
his highest number on the radar gun.
Speaker 8 (07:49):
I don't know if that'd be a nice little prop
bet like Buco two U.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Okay, I don't see that, but maybe we can reach
out to DraftKings to see if there is a prop
bet on how hard Paul Skins will throw tonight, Yes, toun.
Speaker 9 (08:02):
If there was a way of measuring determination. Is Paul
Skins more determined to get these guys out of ideally
strike them out? Or the batter is to show who's
this rookie getting all this attention. I'm going to belt
one off of him right now in the All Star
Game in front of everybody.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Wait, so now we're playing the who's trying harder? Yes?
Who wants it more?
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Skiings on a batter tonight in front of the world.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
I would say it would be both.
Speaker 9 (08:25):
I don't think it's perfectly even though nothing in the
world is exactly fifty.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Okay, well then why don't you tell me what your opinion.
Speaker 9 (08:32):
I'm going to say the batter is a little more
psyched about, like I'm going to show this rookie and
show them up. I'm going to get at least a base,
hopefully a whole mint off this guy. And that's what
I think more than scheens like I got to strike
these guys out right now.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Okay, all right, thank you, Tom.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Nobody asks you how you were feeling. But I'm glad
that you brought up and let the nation.
Speaker 9 (08:51):
Fifty eight percent determination to the hitter forty two percent?
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Who was more determined tonight?
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Paul's schemes or the American Lagol's that first inning?
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Yeah, odds to hit a home run in the All
Star Game? Who has the best odds to hit a
home run tonight?
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Marvin? Who has the best odds? Aaron Judge blue bloo bloop.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
And then followed by Shoe Heyotani, Bryce Harper, Gunner Henderson,
your Dan Alvarez and Marcel Suna.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Who is the home run derby champ?
Speaker 2 (09:23):
So Aaron Judge plus three fifty and then show Heyotani
plus three eighty followed by Bryce Harper. All Right, Seaton
Poll question today is going to be on for the
first hour. Well, you were just talking about basketball. We
could say how confident are your team USA will win
a gold in basketball?
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Positive?
Speaker 10 (09:40):
If you're concerned, very positive, you're very positive they're winning
a gold. So you think that these close calls are
just them sort of going through the motions.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Yeah, I don't know if there's a formidable team that
I say wow on any given night, that team might
be able to beat Team USA.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
I don't know if you have that.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
You know, looking at Serbia and Greece, you know you
have Canada. France, like France would be the team that
I would say, okay, home court advantage with wen ben
Yama and Rudy Gobert. Okay, maybe, but that's just it.
There's a maybe, not like wow, watch out for that
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team Argentina or Spain and you know recent memory always
have formidable teams. But this year's team, Yeah, even if
Kevin Durant's not playing, you know, that's still a very,
very formidable team. Yes, Marv, I think we just.
Speaker 7 (10:36):
We should just say win Banyama because Rudy Gobert is
barbecue chicken to a lot of those big guys. Bam
out of Bayou and those guys, they're chomping at the
bit because look, look what happened to him during the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
He was getting abused.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Well, first of all, when you see say defensive player
of the Year, he shouldn't have been Defensive player of
the year. Defensive player of the year really is the
team Now one guy gets the award, But you know
he benefited from a team that's a really good defensive team.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Do I think Rudy Gobert scares people?
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Know? I think Victor wembn Yama does. And I would
have had him as the defensive Rookie of the Year
or defensive Player of the Year because the number of
shots that you know he is going to change. They
don't have a stat for that, at least I don't
think they do singularly. Nobody was talking about the Spurs
great defense. It was basically that they're just not a
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good team. Yet Minnesota was a really good defensive team.
And it's like Ben Wallace when Ben would win Defensive
Player of the Year with Detroit, that was a really
good team defensive you know effort that they put out
and Ben was the you know, the backbone of that.
He was the center fielder there, you know, cleaning up
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all the mess.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Yes, Marv.
Speaker 7 (11:50):
So, should shots altered be a stat?
Speaker 4 (11:53):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (11:53):
Like Hurriy's in the NFL. Yes, like Max Caros would
lead the league in hurries?
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Yes, because I think hurries is more important than sad
because sometimes we'll go, man, that guy had eighteen sacks, Okay,
how many hurries did he have? Because if I combine
sacks with hurries, Max Crosby might be your leader because
that guy he gets there, he doesn't get all the
way for a sack. But the hurries that could be
(12:19):
thirty thirty five, forty that you have as opposed to, Hey,
that guy gets sacks. Okay, how often does he get
close to the quarterback?
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (12:29):
I think altering a shot is just as important as
blocking a shot.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Now, I get it.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Sometimes you block a shot and you're like, whoa man,
he threw that into the seventh row.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
It's like a dunk.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
All dunks aren't created equal, All home runs aren't created equals.
Sometimes you'll have a dunk where you go, oh boy,
that's going to leave a mark, or a home run
that is so deep and it sounds so majestic.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
It's like, oh.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Wow, that kind of hangs there the echo that you
have in the ballpark. But yeah, I would say when
you alter a shot. I don't know if they have
those stats, but hurries in the NFL, absolutely, I think
it's very important. All Right, what else do we have
seton for baseball?
Speaker 10 (13:11):
Which is more important or which is better selling all
Star jerseys or name and team recognition? Not meant to
be as snarky as maybe it's sounding well.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
We've had some problems with uniforms this year, so I
don't know if the rush for merchandise is going to
be that high, considering these uniforms have looked cheap. But
I do think the name recognition, the team name recognition,
is really important. But that's because you have thirty two
first time All Stars and you want to make sure
(13:43):
that you understand, oh wow, he plays four. You're gonna
have moments tonight where you're going to see a player
and you're gonna go, oh wow, I didn't know.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
He played for Seattle.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
It's just because we're gonna familiarize ourselves with Major League
Baseball tonight. People will do that that this is a
you know, we're gonna be a crash studying here. This
is gonna be one of those Oh now I know
major League Baseball. Oh wow, he's the catcher for the Orioles.
Oh he's the short stuff for the That's what's gonna happen.
(14:17):
Do we have the Paul's schemes? Bet on how hard
he will throw?
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Paulie I just got it in.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
I'm deciphering it right now.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Okay, that means wait and tease it. So after the commercial.
But that's code for what Paulie is saying is I've
got it. Why don't you wait until after the commercial break?
That's called good producing right there. All right, let me
take a break. What happened last night with the national anthem?
I don't know, but something happened last night, that's for sure.
(14:49):
Take a break. We're back after this.
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Speaker 2 (15:41):
Mike Florio Pro Football Talk Live co host and contributed
to Football Night America. Also, Son of Mine is sequel
to Father of Mine, released on September third, available pre
order on Amazon. Mike kind enough to join us on vacation. So, Mike,
you know it's important if I'm interrupting your vacation to
ask you what it means that Caleb Williams doesn't have
(16:02):
an agent right now.
Speaker 6 (16:05):
Well, in the grand scheme of things, it doesn't mean
much because he's using someone by all appearances to negotiate
with the Bears on his behalf. He said over the weekend.
He's not handling it. His lawyers are. The problem is
because he's not represented by an NFLPA certified agent, they
have to be very careful how they go about communicating
(16:26):
with their Bears. I asked the league about the situation.
They said, the Bears told them we are negotiating with
Caleb Williams, even though Caleb says he's not handling it now.
One of the common devices when this goes on is
to set up a dummy email account that is supposedly
the player, but it's actually one of his representatives communicating
(16:47):
with the team regardless there's no contract. I mean others
have gotten these deals done. There are five guys unsigned
right now. He's the only one who's not represented by
an agent. The other four, five guys in the first round,
I say, the other four aren't signed either. And there
isn't much to haggle about in this day and age
for NFL rookies. So the whole thing's weird. But yeah,
(17:07):
it's awkward to say the least when Caleb Williams is
saying I'm not handling it and the Bears are telling
the league he is handling it.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
But aren't these draft picks slotted? Caleb Williams like, what
is left to negotiate?
Speaker 6 (17:22):
There's three things, Dan. One, when do they get their
signing bonus money. Some teams want to give you half
of it, for example, within thirty days, and then the
other half up to a year from now, which is
money in the bank vault for the team, and they
earn interest off of it, and.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
The more they can do that, the more money they.
Speaker 6 (17:38):
Ultimately make by holding that cash back. Number two, what
does it take for the future guarantees to avoid What
will the player do to allow the team to say
we're avoiding the guarantees and then we're going to cut
you because you end up being one of the players
who inevitably was a bust. Because we know the thirty
two guys taking in Round one, up to half of
them aren't going to work out, and the team might
(17:59):
have an escape patch if the player does something he
shouldn't do, rip up the remaining guarantees. Because that we
hear about guaranteed contracts in the NFL all the time.
For the first round of the draft, all four years
of every player picked are fully guaranteed, So you're making
that investment blind as to whether or not the guy
is going to work out. So if he gets in trouble,
if he gets suspended, whatever it is, they can haggle
over the contours of the language that will allow the
(18:21):
team to say we're out guarantees void. And then the
last one is if they do cut the guy with
remaining guarantees left, can he double dip with another team.
That's the offset language. If I get cut and you
owe me twenty million, I keep that twenty and I
make whatever I get somewhere else, the team will say
we want a credit for whatever you make somewhere else.
Those are the three issues signing bonus guarantee, void offset language.
(18:44):
I'm trying to find out. Is there something else I'm missing?
But historically since twenty eleven, those have been the three
sticking points for rookie contracts.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Is it just a coincidence that you have Caleb Williams
and fellow Bear first round of roma Dounza also unsign.
Speaker 6 (18:58):
Well, it's possible Thatday's camp wants to see what they
do with Caleb Williams as it relates to the sunning,
bonus or void language wherever it is. Maybe Caleb Williams
is holding up the rest of the guys in round one.
JJ McCarthy the Vikings quarterback, I'm told and I haven't
written this yet at PFT, but I'm about to. The
Vikings haven't really engaged much with McCarthy's camp, and the
(19:20):
thinking is he's a quarterback, Caleb Williams a quarterback. Let's
see what Caleb Williams does, Let's see what terms he gets,
and then we'll try to get the same as the
tenth overall pick versus the first overall pick. So the
Vikings have two guys in round one unsigned. The Bears
have two guys in round one and signed and it's
a little weird that of the five guys, four of
them come from two teams.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
How many quarterback contracts will be extended by the time
we start the season in your opinion.
Speaker 6 (19:47):
Well, I'm watching Jackrescott. I don't think he's going to
get an extension before the start of the season. I
think it would have happened by now. Matthew Stafford, two, Atonua,
Bai Loa, Jordan Love or the other three hotspots. And
it'll be interesting to see who holds out. You know,
you rarely have a veteran quarterback who's under contract hold
out of training camp. It's typically a rookie who hasn't
(20:09):
signed a contract yet who would hold out. But Stafford
has been agitating for more guaranteed money beyond this year
because he's concerned they were going to dump him after
this year. And then when Jared Goff gets fifty three
million per year and Stafford's at forty, it's easy for
Stafford to say something's wrong with his picture. We don't
know what the Dolphins are going to do with Tua.
I think Jordan Love is the most likely to get
done before the Packers can be in training camp. I
(20:32):
haven't heard anything yet to suggest they won't get it done.
But I'm watching Tua and what will he do if
they don't give him what he wants? And I'm just
kind of keeping a general eye of curiosity on Matthew
Stafford and the Rams because this has been hanging around
since April and they still haven't done a new deal
for him.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
When should we start to take the DeVante Adams being
traded or pairing up with Aaron Rodgers Again as this
serious story, I.
Speaker 6 (21:01):
Mean, there's a ton of smoke out there, and I
really don't know how to go about cutting through it
because you could search back through quotes and tweets and stories,
and it looks like Devontae Adams is content with the Raiders.
And this is as a practical matter, his last year
under his current contract. There's some big phony numbers on
the back end next year in the year after that
drove his average up. But I doubt that any team
(21:23):
is going to honor. So this is basically it for
him with the Raiders. And if he wakes up one
day and says, I don't think this team is going
to get to where it needs to be, could you
please do something and move on and I could be
traded to the Jets, if the Jets even want to
do that. I mean, I wonder how much of this
is just players talking among themselves and if it ever
would come to the table of the people making the
(21:44):
decisions in New York, if they would even do it,
because I think they decided to get out of the
Aaron Rodgers friends and former teams business after what a
disaster it was last year. But Devontae Adams is a
different story altogether. But you look at the receiving corps.
Do they need him? Can they make the financial investment?
It really would you know, restart the whole Jets type
that we saw last year if they would get him.
(22:05):
But for now, I'm just kind of like, let's see
where this goes. It might just be talked among players.
We've got to see if the teams are willing to
do anything.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
The big settlement with Sunday Ticket the NFL. If I
subscribed to Sunday Ticket and part of this lawsuit, how
much money do fans should they expect to get out
of this settlement?
Speaker 6 (22:24):
Well, there's twelve seasons in all that are tied up,
and I assume that if this money and it's all
pending on appeal. The NFL is going to fight this
too and nail all the way to the US Supreme Court.
It'll take multiple more years, day and before it gets resolved.
But if at the end of the day that fourteen
billion dollars judgment, we've heard the number four point seven,
but the moment of verdict becomes a judgment, an official judgment,
(22:45):
it automatically gets tripled under the anti trust laws to
fourteen billion. And I kind of did the rough math,
probably five six thousand dollars if you had it the
whole time, maybe even a little bit more than that.
So this isn't your typical class action where you get
coupons or you know, fifty sense for bus fare. When
it's all said and done, there could be real money
flowing back to people. And people need to understand what
(23:06):
this case was about, because I don't think it was
covered the way.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
It should have been.
Speaker 6 (23:10):
The customers got screwed on this deal. The NFL deliberately
overcharged through direct TV. The NFL told DirecTV this is
the allegation that the jury accepted. You've got to charge
a very high price so that a lot of the
people will just say I don't want this. I'm going
to watch the games available on my local CBS and
Fox affiliate. Because CBS and Fox were fanatical. That was
(23:33):
the word used by Steve Bornstein, who used to run
NFL media, fanatical about Sunday ticket not cannibalizing their ratings.
So the NFL wanted this thing price so high so
fans wouldn't have the choice. They didn't want people to
use Sunday ticket. That's what the case is about. So
there was a lot of money spent by the people
who really wanted those games, Dan, and they may ultimately,
(23:56):
it's still a few years away, but they may ultimately
get a lot of that money back.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
You Mike, Sorry to interrupt your vacation.
Speaker 6 (24:03):
Great to talk to you, Dan.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
That's Mike Floria.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
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Speaker 2 (24:15):
He is Dan Hurley, yukon hit basketball coach back to
back national championships, turned down the Lakers joining us on
the program here. First of all, congratulations. Second of all,
did you splurge on anything new contract? What did you
buy that might surprise us.
Speaker 5 (24:35):
I mean, I'm thanks Dan, and thanks for having me. Man. Nothing.
Speaker 12 (24:41):
I actually the like that I thought about was, you know,
they got I got the Raptor pickup truck, you know,
which was like a big driver for us winning it.
So I looked at maybe like, uh like a vintage Bronco,
like one of those like cool vintage Broncos.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
But uh, I just I didn't get anything. You got nothing.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
How important is your truck to you?
Speaker 5 (25:08):
That is? Uh, it's like my armor. I love that truck.
I love it. I love it.
Speaker 12 (25:13):
I got hooked on pickup trucks watching watching Yellowstone. Yeah,
I kind of think I'm kind of like, uh rip,
you know, like the rip of college coaches.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
But are you a different person when you get behind
the wheel of your Raptor.
Speaker 12 (25:30):
Oh yeah, it's like an alter ego, you know, like
you do you You're in a different mode. I only
drive it during the season. I drive it during the winter.
I drive it with October, uh as the season is
getting closer. And then I'll drive it all the way
to the end. And then I get it. Uh you know.
(25:51):
I take care of the engine and I get it,
you know, really cleaned well. And then I put it
away for the summer, and I treat her. I'll I'll
go in the garage and i'll, you know, I'll talk
to it and and I'll let it know I care
about it.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
But didn't you have your car stolen the first date
you had with your now wife?
Speaker 12 (26:17):
Yeah, that that happens, and I think she knows that, Like,
I'm not like the super romantic type. That wasn't a
setup like to kind of keep her at my house.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
You couldn't take her home because you had your car stolen.
Speaker 12 (26:36):
Yes, And the next day her parents were her parents
were coming to campus to take her to breakfast and
they that was gonna be my first time meeting them.
So it was like a pretty awkward. I wasn't able
to get her daughter back to campus. I think they
had to pick her up at my apartment.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
So if the Lakers would have thrown in a vintage
two door.
Speaker 5 (27:06):
You know, the company is in California, so there wouldn't
have been any shipping.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Could they have done anything?
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Looking back on it, was there anything else they could
have done that might have swayed you?
Speaker 5 (27:19):
It was it was all about really.
Speaker 12 (27:23):
Like how I want to coach and where I want
to coach like college, I think is the perfect place
for me to coach. Yukon is the is the perfect
place for me to coach in college. That like meeting
Rob and Jeanie Buss and they were awesome and it
had like, uh, they almost made me want to do it.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
But it's just you know, where do I belong? You know?
Speaker 12 (27:50):
Where do I get to coach the way I really
want to be a coach? You know the great thing
about being a college coach, Dan is I get to
pick the players. I get to to set the tone
every day here. I decide when when planes leave, I
decide when we eat, I decide when they go to sleep.
I could take their phones away at meals. And you know,
(28:14):
like you just have You know, you don't have as
much control as you used to as a college coach.
You still are an environment as a coach where you have,
I think, the greatest impact on whether your team can
be successful.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Let me let me know if you followed this same
kind of feeling. I was up for a job. I
was going to leave ESPN, went to another city, wined
and dined, told me all the great things. Money was great,
and I was ready to take the job. Come back home,
sit down, reality sets in, and my wife says, what
(28:50):
is it that you don't have here? And then I
just I said, you're right. You come back from LA
with your wife, You're ready to take the job. You
can't turn this down. It's Lebron, it's the money, it's La,
it's the Lakers. And then you come back home reality
sets in.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Similar.
Speaker 12 (29:11):
Yeah, I think so even you know, going to the
went to a concert at MSG and uh, just being
you know.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
Watching Billy Joel and MSG, like being in New York.
Speaker 12 (29:23):
Uh, you know, just being a guy from Jersey and
you just knowing how comfortable you are, how happy you are,
just your life couldn't be better. Why would you mess
with that at this at this point? Uh?
Speaker 5 (29:38):
But it was, it was It was tough. It was tough.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Well, also, tell me if this is true that you
and your wife are texting each other like one two three,
like are we staying or going?
Speaker 3 (29:49):
One two three? Are we staying? Did you do that
multiple times?
Speaker 2 (29:52):
And what happened if your wife says let's go as
opposed to we're staying.
Speaker 12 (30:01):
I mean I think I had obviously for making career decisions,
I've got veto power.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
In that she's got. Are you sure about that?
Speaker 6 (30:13):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (30:14):
I think well?
Speaker 12 (30:15):
And in like who we're going to recruit and how
we're going to play, maybe not exactly where we're going
to live. But you know, I was surprised that a
lot of people were surprised that that we make decisions
as a family that way.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
But what if you wanted to go?
Speaker 5 (30:33):
I would have. I would have, you know, I would have.
I would have convinced my family to do it.
Speaker 12 (30:39):
I would have convinced her to do I don't think
she was excited to go from Wagner to Rhode Island.
I mean I dragged her, you know, from Staten Island
to to the to to to the beautiful state of
Rhode Island, like kicking and screaming to a degree.
Speaker 5 (30:54):
So but I was surprised that people were surprised that.
Speaker 12 (30:58):
We make decisions like as as a family there as
a family that way. My wife knows me better than
anybody in the world, and there's no greater strength that
I have in making any decisions than my faith in
my family. My faith in my family been the fuel
behind everything that's good in my life.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Talking to Dan Hurley, the Connecticut head basketball and coach,
But you start to look at what you did as
a player or what you didn't do like the underdog,
Like you're not an underdog anymore, But how do you
convince yourself to still be an underdog or have that mentality?
Speaker 12 (31:36):
No, in my mind, I still am an underdog. My
path and coaching makes me an underdog. You know, having
been an assistant high school coach, having been an assistant
college coach, having paid dues for nine years as a
high school head coach, and then a low Division one
coach and then a mid major, you know, when I
look around my profession, there's not you know a lot
(31:58):
of coaches at a lead schools that have had to
pay those dues alone the way and have had to
prove themselves at in such a I don't want to
say a humbling manner, but in a much more traditional manner,
the way coaches used to have to earn opportunities like
the one that I have now at Yukon. So as
you're looking for different things to give you an edge,
(32:19):
even you know, when you achieve like what we've achieved,
and when you're at the top of the sport, I
still find plenty of things to you know, to create
friction or to create an edge relative to the people
I'm competing against when I see them on the road
recruiting or wherever.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
How will recruiting change, if any changes, now that like,
you guys are the favorites, you're not an underdog. Now
you can go out and go after those top ten recruits.
I don't know if you've you've always gone after that
feels like you're picking the right people for the system
that you have, not the biggest name for the system
you have.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
Well, I think.
Speaker 12 (33:03):
It's uh, it's a challenge not to get away from
the type of people that that have gotten us to
where we are now that we have access to more
five stars and and and obviously you know what we're
the you know, we're the like the shiny it program
right now, Like we just can't get away from our
identity in getting the type of people that are attracted
(33:26):
to stores Connecticut, like serious people that yeah they they
have uh they got the NBA aspirations, but that they
understand that when they come here, like we're looking for
win win situations. We're looking for like you've got to
deliver us championships while we help you get to the NBA.
It can't just be you know, we got you to
(33:46):
the NBA, because that is not enough when you when
you put the Yukon uniform on.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
All right, the NBA question, how will you answer that
whenever you get that phone call that will inevitably happened.
Speaker 12 (34:01):
Yeah, I think down the line. I think as we look,
you know, years down the line. Obviously the contract and
the commitment that Yukon made to me. I never thought
i'd I'd be doing this for a living like this,
So you know, I think that's something that's going to
(34:21):
be like years down the line for me at the
absolute appropriate time. But that's not something that I'll even
be on my radar Dan like, I'm I had my
chance to kind of see what that looks like, and
I think that'll suffice for for several years now.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
I think for me, how important the chance to make history.
How much did that factor in coming back for a
three peat?
Speaker 12 (34:50):
Huge, huge factor, The chance to potentially match something that
John wouldn't it that's crazy, I mean, that's it's the
mind blowing. Those U c l A teams, the u
c l A program, Alex Caraban coming back to school,
recruiting these players in like Liam McNeely, who who commits
(35:13):
to you just a couple of weeks earlier, and seeing
his face while that whole situation was going on, you know,
and then like the way people in this state, knowing
how important Yukon is to the like to the state
of Connecticut, to the people of Connecticut, how they view
me here at this point, that meant that means a lot,
you know, like the way you received So it was
(35:36):
a lot that went into it.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Did you talk to Lebron personally and tell him that
you weren't taking the JOm.
Speaker 12 (35:44):
No, but we had some conversation and that was that
was exceptionally cool moment to communicate with one of the greatest.
And then you know, post uh, you know, post decision,
I reached out for him and uh, you'll let him
know that my offensive system would be really good for
(36:05):
any James sons that play moving forward in college.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
Who's the best coach in the Hurley family?
Speaker 4 (36:18):
Now?
Speaker 5 (36:19):
Oh, still about that? Okay, he's here, he's here today.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
I'll tell him. I set a low tell him he gets.
Speaker 12 (36:26):
To practice an hour before just to watch the player's
rotation on their shot.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
But if you go three pete though, Dan he's I mean,
I mean, you got to be up. You've got to
be getting closer to Mount Everest there with your dad.
Speaker 5 (36:40):
Yeah, I fight three Pete.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
I think he's second best.
Speaker 12 (36:44):
Yeah, and yeah, and then but I know, you know,
just knowing how competitive we all are, you know, you know,
Bob's loaded up with a roster. So Bob both of
us in his sights.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Before I let you go, we had Gino Orima on
that that day and he said he had talked to
you the night before, jokingly said, you know about you
being the Lakers head coach. He said he had no
idea that you were being offered this job, and he said,
if it was up to him, he would tell you
to have taken that job.
Speaker 12 (37:14):
Well, I became aware maybe uh uh, like maybe a
half hour before that appearance, that that that word was
trickling out, that that there had been conversations and it
was potentially, uh you know, going.
Speaker 5 (37:32):
To be a meeting. Uh.
Speaker 12 (37:33):
And then the next day it dropped in the morning.
So I was staring at him like wondering, like did
he know, Like.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
What are the odds though, Dan, that he says to you,
you could lead the Lakers to whatever playoff birth or
whatever the conversation was, and you're thinking, how does he
know this?
Speaker 5 (37:57):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 12 (37:59):
I mean, I know, you know, is like the goat
of all goats, but like, like how does he does
he know? So I was so distracted at that hour appearance.
They were asking me questions up on the dais next
to him, and like I would, I'm all I can
think about is did Gino know something?
Speaker 5 (38:17):
And Gino's my guy.
Speaker 12 (38:19):
So if I don't say something and he knows it,
now I've just lost my you know, my my buddy.
Speaker 5 (38:26):
So it was a bad spot he put me in.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
Good to keep you in the state and thanks for
joining us.
Speaker 5 (38:33):
Dan, You're the man, brother, Thank you.
Speaker 4 (38:35):
Thank you Dan.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
That's Dan Hurley.
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