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July 18, 2024 44 mins

On today's Dan Patrick Show, the guys dive deep into Indiana Fever star Caitlin Clark's historic night, and are joined by the founder of Savannah Bananas Jesse Cole. Cole discussed the difference between Banana ball and baseball and shared how he and his wife were able to create something special after years of struggling to start their dream sport. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
One on a Thursday, Dan and the Dan that's Dan
Patrick Show. Glad to have you on board. Golf underway
at the Open Championship at Royal Troon.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
It's a great golf course.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
It's a frustrating golf course and it feels like it's
fall bordering on winter over there.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
If you're watching, they're bundled up.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
The wind is blowing and they got sweaters and hoodies
and it's golf weather over there. Here we are in
the middle of July and it's cold over there. But
watching there's train that goes by. There's the airport, Prestwick
Airport nearby, so planes are going overhead. There's a train

(00:45):
track that goes along I think the eleventh t. There's
a postage stamp hole there par three. It's called the
postage stamp. It's got two bunkers that look like coffins
or you're going to bury a coffin in it.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
It's fabulous. It's fascinating. Now. Would I want to play
it every day? No? I would not.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
I didn't want to play it the day I played
it because it roughed me up pretty good, but it's beautiful.
And I've said this before about Pebble Beach. You can't
have a bad day at Pebble Beach. You can have
a bad round of golf, but you can't have a
bad day. And it's sort of the same way when
I play link style golf, whether it's in Ireland or Scotland.
So golf is underway, we'll keep an eye on the

(01:27):
leader board there. Caitlin Clark had a night. We'll talk
about that. Set the single game assist record with nineteen
USA basketball as advertised, handled Serbia twenty four for Steph Curry.
They play South Sudan not to be confused with North
Sudan or East or West or Northwest Sudan, and then

(01:52):
they play Germany after that, and then we start the Olympics.
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(02:15):
poll questions today. Todd is the Minister of humor. Marvin
all hands on deck. He does everything for this program.
He's a five tool player. And Paulie Paully just is Pauling.
He just runs the show. He's the Minister of snark,
I think is what he would be.

Speaker 4 (02:32):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yes, Todd's Minister of humor. And we're still waiting to
find out officially what will be the name of my
pontoon boat. You can submit your entries there either email, tweet,
or DIALI simp as well. I want to start out
with the co founder of the Orlando Magic Pat Williams,

(02:53):
passed away.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
He was eighty four.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
I got to know Pat quite a bit because when
we wanted to have him on on ESPN Radio, he
was always available. Nobody sold the city of Orlando more
than Pat Williams did. Fascinating man, and I really loved him.
I mean you couldn't help but appreciate. He wrote over

(03:15):
one hundred books. He ran close to sixty marathons, ran
the Boston Marathon thirteen times. He also he and his
wife adopted. They had nineteen children, and fourteen of them
they adopted from foreign countries. He was just a wonderful
person when you were around him. You felt better, You

(03:36):
felt better about yourself, you felt better about America. He
was really that kind. He was a hype guy, and
he passed away at the age of eighty four.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
He won the lottery. You know.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
He used to joke all the time, we don't have
any trophies in our trophy case. We have ping pong
balls because I'm really good at winning the lottery.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
They won the lottery three times.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
They got shack An Ferny hard in Dwight Howard, but
he passed away at the age of eighty four. He
was trying to get a baseball team to Orlando. He
worked really hard to get Major League Soccer in Orlando
as well. But a fascinating man that passed away at
the age of eighty four.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
Pat, you'll be missed.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
You left quite an imprint on the society, not just sports.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
All right.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
Poll question today Seaton O'Connor, what are you thinking about
if you were buying stock today?

Speaker 5 (04:32):
Dan, we got two from PAULI here, which would you
buy MLS WNBA.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
Other MLS O their WNBA.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
I'm going to say WNBA because their star is really
young in Caitlin Clark, whereas MLS your star is old.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
In MESSI.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
If you're going to get the tune in factor with
fans who are just going to watch something, how long
is MESSI going to play? Caitlin Clark's going to be
there at least another decade there, Attendance is up dramatically,
it's accessible, and I would buy stock in the WNBA
over MLS. As far as other I don't know if

(05:19):
there's I mean, if you're going to say MMA, I
would have bought stock in MMA UFC because I mean
that's a billion, multi billion dollar business. But the WNBA,
I just I hope they're able to add stars that
you're going to tune in to watch other than just

(05:40):
Caitlin Clark.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
You need to have that.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
You need to have a few more stars there, Juju
Watkins when she comes in, or Page Becker's when she
comes in. You you need more teams and you need
more stars that you'll tune in to see. And last
night Caitlin Clark put on a show twenty four points
nineteen assists, And that's why I'm watching. And I'm kind

(06:03):
of laughing at the people or trying to make this
an argument or a discussion that Angel Reese is somehow
the Rookie of the Year. And this isn't anti Angel Reese.
I told you she is relentless. She reminds me of
Moses Malone. If you're old enough to remember how Moses played.
His shot wasn't pretty, but he was relentless both ends

(06:27):
of the floor. He was going to get rebounds, he
was going to get garbage points. He'll you know, put backs.
You know, esthetically wasn't pleasing. But Angel Reese is kind
of like Moses Malone. Caitlin Clark is on the worst team.
There's a reason why they got the number one pick.
They weren't good. She's making them at least playoff worthy. Now, granted,

(06:51):
you know just about everybody makes the playoffs in the WNBA,
but you're watching last night, and I mean, she scored
or assisted on sixty six of her team's ninety three points.
That's a WNBA record. She's gone twenty and ten a
couple of times this year, three times twenty and ten

(07:14):
three times this year. I mean, she's gonna set all
the rookie records in the WNBA. And for those who
think she's just a logo shooter, just watch her play.
She has the ability to pass that is equal or
surpassing players in the NBA. Her ability to find the

(07:35):
open person, it's remarkable, and as we talked about this yesterday,
to see a play maybe one or two plays before
it happens, or a pass here leads to a pass there.
And she's unselfish, probably a little too much. She should
have shot a little bit more last night.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
And I always go.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
Back when we started this year her season, I said
she might be more of a facilitator and lead the
league and assist more than just and I thought she
would be a twenty ten player this year. You know,
she gets in a pick and roll with the Leah
Boston and you know it's Stockton and Malone and you
saw that last night. But I and we talked about

(08:15):
how they front loaded the schedule. They wanted to make
sure everybody got to see Kitlyn Clark. And she looked gassed,
she looked tired. And I did say she didn't deserve
to be on the Olympic team. And I meant that
at the time. Now is it a discussion point? Now
it is, But it's too late unless she gets on
because somebody is injured. I don't know when you freeze

(08:36):
your lineups there that she can't go on, but she
is an alternate. We did ask about the men's team
as well. When you have to freeze your lineup that
Jalen Brown couldn't join the team, Let's say if Jobe
Ellenbiid wasn't able to play. But with Caitlyn Clark, she's
playing her way into that conversation. And this is what's
going to happen. You're going to get questions to the

(09:00):
players on the Olympic team about Caitlin Clark. And there's
two ways to approach this. You either, you know, embrace it.
Good for our game. We hope that she'll be an Olympian,
she'll have a lot of opportunities, she'll probably be on
the team in Los Angeles. Or hey, I'm not here
to talk about somebody who's not here. And you're going

(09:22):
to get two different philosophies here. The best way to
go about it acknowledge her. This is the team and
we're proud to come home, you know, bring home a
gold medal here. And Caitlyn's been great for the WNBA
and you'll be able to see her on the Olympic
team in Los Angeles in four years. But you know,

(09:42):
they just signed this new deal. No great timing, but
that's the Caitlin Clark effect. She had a large say
in this TV deal that you now, all of a sudden,
you know, players might get their salaries doubled now just
because of her. No, but I've said this before about

(10:04):
Tiger had people who didn't even like golf but were
fascinated with Tiger, Wayne Gretzky. People watched hockey. They weren't
hockey fans, but they wanted to see what Wayne Gretzky
was all about. You may tune in to the WNBA
just to see Caitlin Clark. Hopefully you'll see the other
players and you'll see how far the game has progressed evolved,

(10:28):
and that there are great athletes there. You know, Asia
Wilson has been playing great basketball for quite some time.
It's just now people are starting to recognize her. Caitlin
brought the spotlight. But the spotlight's big enough for a
lot of other players. And that's where you benefit from it.
You know, Tiger came there. Prize money all of a sudden,

(10:50):
you know, doubled now. Everybody benefited from Tiger Woods. You know,
charter planes in the WNBA. But you have to embrace it,
and you have to acknowledge what she's done. I mean,
she should get MVP votes. From this standpoint, Is she great?

Speaker 3 (11:10):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (11:11):
Is she the most valuable player in the league? And
the answer is yes. For the league, she's the most
valuable player because of what Michael Jordan should have been
MVP every year because he was the most valuable player
for the league. And that's what Caitlyn Clark has been.
But watching last night, she's amazing at times, spectacular at times,

(11:35):
basketball acumen off the chart. I did want to text
my good buddy Doug Gottlieb, who is a college coach
at Wisconsin Green Bay, and I said, could Caitlyn Clark
start for your team? He said, lebron James, his son
Brownie couldn't. So I wanted to see if Doug thought
Caitlyn could.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
Start for his team. Oh, tomy in cheek there with Douglas.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
All right, So let's pull question aside from that one
the stock that I'm investing in, dear. Oh, by the way,
Bronnie James played pretty well last night.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
He had I think he had a two three pointers
their season A two.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
Yeah, I think I think so, A one two yes, yes,
uh and he and he looked okay.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
Last night. I watched a little bit of that. It
looked okay.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
But once again, he's not ready to play any kind
of big minutes in the NBA, not yet. And maybe
it's a couple of years down the road, and maybe
he goes to the G League, which is probably where
he should be, and hopefully he gets that opportunity. I'm
gonna guess there are probably going to be moments where
Lebron goes into the front office and says, hey, we

(12:47):
got a nationally televised game'd be great if we brought
Bronnie up and all of a sudden, Brownie will be
there on the bench.

Speaker 6 (12:55):
Yes, Mark in that first game, Bronnie's on the actual
Lakers roster commercial with Ken Griffey Junior and Cam Griffy
Senior along with Bronni and Lebron.

Speaker 7 (13:04):
Okay, that's going to debut. Okay, I'm calling.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
It all right, all right, I'll give that to you.

Speaker 8 (13:08):
Yes, pomp Or, You're gonna have the most popular G
League team of all time. I think it's the South
Bay Lakers is the G League team? Yes, they will
have sell I'm not even really joking about this. They
could to probably play thirty five minutes a game and
have the team to himself. Almost he'd be get all
the minutes that he didn't get last year.

Speaker 4 (13:27):
USC. Yeah, playing basketball is the best way.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
I like how people are saying, well, man, they're going
to sell a lot of merchandise. I go, how much
merchandise did USC sell? I mean probably not USC when
he was playing. I don't know how much merchandise they
were selling. But yeah, I did watch a little bit
of that last night. But I did watch most of
the game with Caitlin Clark, and it was a great game.
It was fun back and forth and Dallas ended up winning.

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Speaker 2 (14:44):
Gangs all here, Fritzie the Minister of Humor, Seaton Marvin,
Minister of Snark, Paully backroom guys and yours truly spend
a little bit of time talking about SEC media days.
Texas and Alabama got the stage and I like that.
Nick Saban put even more pressure on his success or

(15:05):
by saying, I got Texas in Georgia playing for the
SEC title. And you start to look at you know
kids nowadays, parents nowadays wanting their son to be able
to play right away. And if you don't play right away,
then you transfer. What's my nil? And if I don't
play right away, then I'm going to get in the
transfer portal. That's what happens. And then you have arch Manning.

(15:27):
Arch Manning, highly recruited, ends up going to Texas and
then he sits first year and he's going to sit
this year as well, behind quinn Ewers, who will be
a Heisman Trophy candidate. Best case scenario if you're Texas
is arch Manning doesn't play this year, because that means
quinn Ewers has played lights out. Now maybe some mop

(15:50):
up time, mop up duty. We saw that last year
with arch But it is surprising in today's day and
age of I want it now, don't get it now.
I'm going to transfer where I can find a place
where I can get it now. I want to start
right now.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
Now.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
I know that you know, having famous uncles there and
you know, famous grandfather there, that Okay, maybe you don't
have to speed up the process here. Maybe you wait,
you get your chance, spend a couple of years at Texas,
and then maybe you get a chance in the NFL.
But he is the anomaly. Most of these quarterbacks aren't waiting,

(16:31):
especially somebody was highly recruited as arch Manning, and he's admitted,
you know, it's pretty frustrating, but you can't argue with
what quinn Ewers has done. He was going he went
to Ohio State, So quinn Ewers was even more highly
regarded than arch Manning was coming out of high school.
If you can believe that went to Ohio State, went

(16:51):
there early, and I think he was getting nil money,
one of the first guys getting nil money and then
actually transferred to Texas and he's played pretty well the
last couple of seasons.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
But I was surprised that.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
And I don't think the SEC media days Arch Manning
is going to usually your backup quarterback doesn't speak, but
I would be more fascinated to talk to him than
I would Quinn Eewers, even though Quinn Ewers highly regarded
and probably going to be a first round draft pick,
but Heisman Trophy candidate for Texas. It's still this has
been three years in the making of Texas and Oklahoma

(17:30):
going to the SEC, but it still feels a little
bit strange. You know at Texas SEC. Oh yeah, that's right.
You almost have to remind yourself and you're going to
have games with UCLA and USC playing against teams and
you're going to go, oh, is this like an outer
conference schedule, and then you realize, no, that's in conference

(17:52):
schedule for them. The college football always fascinating, and if
you look back on the storylines and you go, well,
who would have saw that coming if we started this
year or last year at this time and said, hey,
by the way, these are some of the things that
are going to happen. You know, you start off with
Dion in Colorado that took you know, took over college

(18:16):
football the first month for six weeks somewhat. So he
was the Sportsman of the Year for winning four games.
The over under this year is five and a half.
That is surprising because I thought, all right, they got
four wins, they weren't very good. You still have a
couple of first round draft picks on that team, and
that Dion was going to go out and make sure

(18:37):
that he didn't get embarrassed again. Five and a half
over under, that's surprising. Now, if you would have said
Jim Harbaugh being in trouble and Michigan's going to win
the National Championship and Jim Harbaugh is going to go
back to the NFL and do that in the same year,
you might have been surprised. Nick Saban was going to
coach and he would coach his last game. Florida State

(19:01):
would get left out of the Final four title picture.
So just some of these things. Washington comes out of nowhere.
Washington's coach gets the Alabama job, probably because Washington was
really successful last year. The timing of that, you've got
to replace Saban. I think a lot of people thought

(19:22):
Davo Sweeney was going to get the job, and I
was told a long time ago it's not going to
happen that Alabama was not going to bring in Dabo Sweeney,
and Dabo may have said, hey, I'm going to coach here.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
I'm not going to go to Alabama.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
I mean, you always want to be following the guy
who followed the legend. It's tough to come in there
and all of a sudden you're taking over after Nick
Saban and you can't say, you know what, we want
to be bow eligible and be competitive. No, you want
to go toe to toe with Georgia and Texas in
the SEC. You don't get the opportunity to go all right,

(19:57):
that's your mulligan here, Yes, Marvin, So with.

Speaker 6 (20:00):
Twelve teams, Alabama has to make the playoffs year and
a year out.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
Yes, okay, yes, yes, yeah what pu Yeah?

Speaker 8 (20:09):
I mean even just saying that out loud as wild, Yeah,
like it's a that's step one of the season.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
Yes, yeah, I think that's a foregone conclusion. Now, how
many SEC schools will make the top twelve wells, that
to me is the bigger question of how many teams
from the SEC. Let's put an over under four and
a half teams, four and a half schools four and

(20:36):
a half.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
Pauli's head's exploding here.

Speaker 4 (20:40):
You know, college football gets it going.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
Okay, if I said four and a half schools are
in the final twelve, who's taking the over.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
Seat?

Speaker 2 (20:52):
Is okay, I'm gonna take the under. I'm going to
say four. I'm not going to go to five, not yet. Yeah, Paulin,
it's stressing me.

Speaker 4 (21:09):
Yeah, this is like one of the tough questions.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
It's mid July. It's okay, I know, we've got time.

Speaker 4 (21:13):
I want to look at what it would have been
last year.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
Oh, how many teams would have or how many teams
finished in the top twelve. But then don't you have
automatic qualifiers there as well?

Speaker 8 (21:25):
Yeah it's not exact. Yeah, but last year Georgia, Alabama,
Missouri would have made it if there was a twelve
team or last year yeah, yeah likely and old miss
I would say five last year.

Speaker 4 (21:40):
Okay, it all goes well, well live last year.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
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Speaker 3 (21:48):
Let the games begin.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
It'll be the Olympic Games coming up starting July twenty
six in Paris, and the Open Championship on Peacock, USA,
also starting today. Weather is a little dicey. Well, no
weather is normal in Scotland. It's windy, overcast and expected
to be that way. The bunkers are so deep that

(22:13):
you kind of have to jump in them and then
you need help assistance to get out of it. And
there was I don't know the golfer. I just saw
somebody being helped out of the bunker by somebody. Is
Cady was like, let me help you out of there.
Those bunkers they're penals. What they like to say?

Speaker 4 (22:32):
What does that mean?

Speaker 3 (22:33):
I think they're very penalizing. I think that I got
that right.

Speaker 8 (22:38):
Yes, Yes, Tiger's out there and he's wearing like a
cravat or a scarf or something. At this time, Lovely's collection.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
Probably got a logo on it. I'm sure.

Speaker 4 (22:51):
Yeah, it looks like one of those neck muffler things
he's got.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
H Yeah, it's breezy out there and probably sixty degrees
with the wind. It's probably mid fifties, maybe lower fifties
there it's July in Scotland.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
All right, we'll keep an eye on that tiger. Tiger
t enough.

Speaker 4 (23:11):
We're sure we're deciding what he's wearing on his neck
right now, like a muffler.

Speaker 3 (23:14):
A muffler he's to catch a chill. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
Poll question for hour two is going to be what
we say, good morning those watching on Peacock, thank you
for downloading the app, and if you'd like to dial
us up. Everybody's helping with my boat. I don't know
if you're supposed to name a pontoon boat, but I'm
doing it. Even if I don't put it on the boat,
I'm going to call it maybe the sports anchor or
the mothership or whatever we come up with here, Seaton.

(23:42):
Poll question from our one and then let's drip it
over into our two.

Speaker 5 (23:46):
We got a banger here, I'd rather attend the Olympics
or the Open Championship.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
Fifty fifty after one hour.

Speaker 5 (23:55):
Let's go, Well, it's actually fifty one forty nine, now
that I look at it. You go to the Olympics, Well,
fifty of the audience are not with you. Well, and
I give my audience a lot of credit for being really,
really sharp, not here.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
Because now, if this was St Andrews.

Speaker 4 (24:13):
You're saying their opinions wrong.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
Yes, if this was St Andrews and everything that goes
along with that, then I would say, okay, I'll give
you that. But look, Royal Troon is a wonderful course,
beautiful area. But if you said I could go to
the Olympics Paris, if you said I could have a
week in Paris at the Olympics or a week at

(24:35):
the Open Championship, I would take Paris. We'll always have Paris.
Emily goes way. What's the name of that du Emily
in Paris? Yeah, Emily in Paris. I did watch a
little bit of the first season of that, Oh I did,
And I don't know what isn't that Phil Collins' daughter?

Speaker 3 (24:56):
It is the musician Emily is Phil Owen's daughter, Yes, Seon.

Speaker 5 (25:01):
I watched, uh, I don't know, maybe fifteen minutes of
the first one. I was like, ah, this isn't for me,
this is I'm not the target audience for this.

Speaker 3 (25:09):
I was already like, uh, I don't want to do this.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
I don't know why I'm the target audience then, because
I'm like, all right, I think a lot of it
has to do with where it's filmed, just in ap Paris.

Speaker 5 (25:18):
That to me is like usually enough to get me
in where I'm like, oh, I'll just watch because it's
in Paris and that'll be fun. Or I'll watch it
it's in Italy. Yeah, I'll watch this, that'll be fun. Yes,
I could not do it, Okay, not for me.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
Okay, Like you watched the Equalizer because Denzel was in Italy.

Speaker 5 (25:34):
Yeah, like Equalizer three was in like Sicily or something.
I was like, oh, I'm in great.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
Yeah, all right, we'll get phone calls coming up. USA hoops.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
Now, if I was a producer and I had control
over there, so I would have had the United States
lose to Serbia. So now all of a sudden we
got some interest here, there's no interest. I mean we're
gonna try. You know, the big controversy is Jalen Brown
not making the team, or teammate Derek White making the team,
or does KD play? Is Joe lenb going to be

(26:05):
able to be healthy to play for a couple of weeks?
So other than that, I don't know. We saw Canada
Australia played pretty well, but you know, it might be
just one of those ceremonial trips to a gold medal
and then you get to watch Lebron play in his
final Olympics. The fact that Steph Curry's playing in his

(26:27):
first Olympics, does that surprise anybody?

Speaker 3 (26:30):
Did?

Speaker 2 (26:30):
Me very much so, because I thought, wait, this is
his first one. He's thirty four in his first Olympics.

Speaker 4 (26:37):
Was he not offered to play before?

Speaker 3 (26:39):
Or was he? Was he injured?

Speaker 4 (26:41):
Our conflict? I don't.

Speaker 3 (26:42):
I don't remember.

Speaker 7 (26:44):
Yeah, I'm not sure.

Speaker 6 (26:44):
Twenty twelve he wasn't Steph yet. Twenty sixteen he probably
declined it, Okay. In twenty twenty one, maybe injured?

Speaker 2 (26:56):
Maybe yeah, yeah, I was surprised at that. Katelyn and
Clark went off last night twenty four points. More importantly,
nineteen assists. That's a single game record. We had a
caller saying that she's now the Scott Skiles of the WNBA.
You know, Scott Skiles had thirty assists in a game.
I think he was with Orlando at the time. And

(27:18):
my favorite Scott Skyles story, Scott played at Michigan State
and he wore the high socks, and Scott Skiles didn't
back down from anybody.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
He was a bad dude on the floor. He really was.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
And I was told this story by somebody at Georgetown
that Skiles was playing against Georgetown. John Thompson is coaching,
and Skiles is over by the Georgetown bench and he
is killing Georgetown and he's dribbling, and he says to
John Thompson, why don't you get some bleep and bleep

(27:52):
out here who can guard me? And I thought, wow,
can you imagine John Thompson, you know, leaning over?

Speaker 3 (28:01):
What did he say? Get somebody out here who can
bleep and guard me? I love that.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
Whether the story is true or not, I believe it
because it's scott Skyles, gritty, gutty, Scottie Skyles, thirty assists.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
Was it Kevin Porter who had the previous record? Did
he have like twenty eight?

Speaker 4 (28:20):
Does that sound right?

Speaker 7 (28:22):
Checking?

Speaker 2 (28:22):
I'm just guessing, just guessing. But Caitlyn Clark last night
was wonderful. And the fact that we continue this perception
that there is competition for Rookie of the Year is
really silly. But look, if Angel Reese is that great,
why isn't anybody saying Angel Reese's should be.

Speaker 3 (28:42):
On the Olympic team? You know?

Speaker 2 (28:44):
But we are still discussing Caitlyn Clark and why didn't
she on the Olympic team. Angel Reese is a very
good player. It's not a surprise that she's a very
good player. She's a double double machine. And I like
in her. As I said first to Moses malone greatest
offensive rebounder I ever saw, not pretty in how he

(29:06):
played a great shot, but he was out there and relentless,
and that's Angel Reeves. Caitlin Clark is different. And you
saw that last night, yes, tod.

Speaker 10 (29:16):
In February twenty fourth, nineteen seventy eight, Kevin Porter sets
the record for most assistant the game with twenty nine.
At the time a meetingless midseason game, Kevin Porter set
the record for most assistant the game with twenty nine
as his nets best of the Rockets, I score of
one twenty six one twelve.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
Okay, sometimes it comes back to me, you know, Sometimes
I go through the roll of decks and sometimes I
get it right. Kind of twenty nine assists for Kevin Porter.

Speaker 3 (29:39):
Yes.

Speaker 8 (29:39):
Pomp Steph Curry was not asked to be on the
twenty twelve team. Okay, the twenty sixteen Olympic team. He
passed due to ankle and knee injuries. Okay, the twenty
twenty team, he said he wanted to rest and recover
and it just wasn't for him at this time. So
twenty twenty was a choice, and as was twenty sixteen,
but there were some real injuries.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
But was it the twenty twenty one because they didn't
do it? Yes, twenty twenty covid.

Speaker 4 (30:03):
Yeah, what would have been the twenty twenty Olympics?

Speaker 3 (30:05):
Twenty twenty one year?

Speaker 4 (30:07):
Okay, So oddly this will be his first Olympics.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
Okay, be his first, probably his last, Lebron's last, and
uh yeah, you start to look at that new wave
at you know, Anthony Edwards.

Speaker 3 (30:21):
How many Olympics are he going to play in? Uh?

Speaker 2 (30:24):
Devin Booker, Who are some of the younger players that
are going to get an opportunity to play in four Olympics?
Does Derek White get an opportunity?

Speaker 3 (30:32):
Again? I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
Jalen Brown get an opportunity, Jason Tatum, He's already won
a gold medal, yes, Mark.

Speaker 6 (30:40):
Derek White's gonna be like Tayshawn Prince, like Tayshaw Bury's
got a gold medal. He sure does you just needed
that one quote unquote glue guy, the guy who's not
going to complain if he doesn't play at all.

Speaker 3 (30:50):
Yeah. I can never be the glue guy, you know.
I it's like, hey, what do you want me to do?

Speaker 2 (30:57):
I don't want to do that. My coach wanted to
make sure I didn't shoot too much. Then he always
made me guard the other team's best player because he thought,
and I wasn't a great defensive guy. He just thought
that that might take some of the energy out.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
Of my game.

Speaker 4 (31:14):
It seems like a bad strategy.

Speaker 3 (31:15):
It was.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
Yeah, I this is my high school coach, because he
always wanted Danny, what's the rule? He would say this
fifteen times in practice, Danny, what's the rule? Get the
ball in sign? Yes, take a shot. Even if he
made a shot, Danny, what's the rule?

Speaker 3 (31:30):
Get the ball in sign? That's tough, man, It was tough.
It was, yes. And then all of a sudden, I
didn't get the ball inside and I didn't care anymore.

Speaker 6 (31:39):
Yes, Bart, what would you be doing if you were
seventeen right now in twenty twenty four.

Speaker 11 (31:43):
I'd be crushing outside just in general. Yeah, like that
doesn't baskball a lot of stuff just to be crushing. Now,
do I have acne and bad you know?

Speaker 7 (31:56):
No? No, you're like this, you have oh h have
this money? You have all? Oh you're just seventeen.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
Oh wow, okay, okay, yeah, crushing, Yeah, crushing. I don't
know if I'm any better as well. If I'm physically
like this now, then I wouldn't be able to play basketball.

Speaker 7 (32:17):
No, seventeen, health all day?

Speaker 3 (32:18):
Okay? Ansty me?

Speaker 7 (32:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (32:21):
Healthy me? Oh and the three point shot?

Speaker 6 (32:24):
Yes, you're a slam magazine.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
Hide the women and children when I come to town
because I'm dominating.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
Do you think I would be on the cover of
Slam magazine? No, I said you'd oh yeah, oh okay,
I wouldn't be on the cover. Yeah, okay, I'm not
Cooper Flag Okay, all right, corn fed, good looks, nice jumper.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
What more do you need?

Speaker 7 (32:50):
Deceptively athletic?

Speaker 3 (32:53):
Yeah probably so, Yes, John, you have that.

Speaker 10 (32:55):
Extra confidence with the ladies that we sometimes wish they
could go back in time and approach.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
I had zero zero confidence, zero point zero zero confidence.
Absolutely no game whatsoever, none, none, sad. But I didn't
live at home like you did, Todd.

Speaker 3 (33:17):
Except for occasional trip and Rutgers in the week in
the college. In college you lived at home?

Speaker 4 (33:22):
Who really got to keep the.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
Door half opened?

Speaker 1 (33:24):
Out a number?

Speaker 7 (33:24):
That's stallions? Who wants cook these?

Speaker 10 (33:26):
Mom?

Speaker 3 (33:27):
I'm twenty, who wants cooked? I know?

Speaker 1 (33:30):
This is great.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
I could just imagine your mom, you know, probably had
her ear rings on, her hair all done or makeup done,
you know, cleaned up the apartment. Todd's bringing a girl
over and she's walking in.

Speaker 7 (33:43):
I could see your mom peeking through the door. What
are we gonna knocker?

Speaker 4 (33:46):
You're going to come to my house next time.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
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Speaker 2 (33:58):
Jesse Cole is the founder of These Savanna Bananas and
their baseball team. Their entertainment and a baseball team. You've
probably seen a lot of the highlights there. They're dressed
in their banana yellow uniforms and they put on a show.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
They were just in DC.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
They had fifty thousand fans who came out to see them.
Where the Nationals play. Hey, the Nationals finally sold out
a game.

Speaker 3 (34:21):
It's with the.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
Savannah Bananas and Jesse Cole, the founder of the Savannah Bananas,
joining us on the program. How much is baseball and
how much is entertainment with your team, I.

Speaker 12 (34:35):
Would say it's one hundred percent banana ball, So I
would even, you know, compare an its lay to baseball.
Developing the new rules, the new experience, the new entertainment,
the new speed of the game plus everything. It's a
different game. And yes, we've been unbelievably inspired by baseball,
but you know it's it's a fast, entertaining, exciting game
that we're trying to make a little bit different than baseball.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
If I go to one of your games, what do
you guarantee.

Speaker 13 (35:00):
To see something you've never seen before?

Speaker 12 (35:01):
In a baseball field like centerfield, they're doing a backflip, catch,
a guy coming up to bat with a bat on fire,
a pitcher on stilts. Infielders doing you know, catching a
ball between their legs, then dribbling it back and then
throwing in the first basement who then catches it between
their legs, then them celebrating at home with a huge
production dance number.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
But are you going after entertainer first, then athlete? The
baseball player.

Speaker 13 (35:27):
Well, all of our players have to play at a
high level.

Speaker 12 (35:30):
So you know, we have numerous guys that have been
in minor league baseball, professional baseball, from first round draft
picks to you know, high prospects that have been part
of organizations. So they have to be able to play
the game, but they also have to be able to entertain.
And so every day these guys are working on trick plays.
Every day, these guys are working on new dances, new celebrations,
just to keep the fan base engaged, so.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
More likely to hire a choreographer or a hitting coach
both and we have both.

Speaker 12 (35:56):
You know, we have a dance instructor, choreographer, we have
a live band. Yeah, every day we're doing new dances
they've never done before as well. And then we have
obviously some baseball coaches that are again teaching banana ball.
We're teaching pitchers how to throw a pitch every three
to four seconds, how to strike out a guy in
nine seconds. You know, we're teaching the game in a
very different way. And so there are baseball guys that

(36:16):
have learned to evolve to banana ball.

Speaker 3 (36:18):
Okay, but take me back when it first started, back.

Speaker 13 (36:23):
To eight years ago. When we started the Savannah Bananas.

Speaker 12 (36:25):
You know, my wife and I had this big dream
to make baseball fun and we came there. We started
telling everyone our vision, you know, inspired by P. T. Barnum,
Walt Disney, and people looked at us like we were crazy.
I mean, we only sold a handful of tickets in
our first few months, and by January twenty sixteen, we
overdrafted our account. We were out of money, We had
to sell our house MTR savings account. We were sleeping
on airbed and it was because no one had seen it,

(36:47):
you know, they hadn't experienced it. And so once we
got enough people to come out of the first game
and see, you know, there are no ticket fees, no
convenient fees, no service fees, all inclusive food, everything that
we believe in fans first they started telling everyone. And
since that first year, we've sold out every single game
and the wait lists just passed over two point seven
million for tickets.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
Is there a Harlem Globetrotters feel?

Speaker 13 (37:09):
We get compared to that? And at first, you know,
definitely honored.

Speaker 12 (37:12):
I've studied them as much as you know, The Grateful
Dead and Saturday Night Live and WWE and Circus LA.

Speaker 13 (37:17):
But with Harlem Globetrotters.

Speaker 12 (37:19):
You know, they fundamentally changed the game of basketball in
the nineteen thirties, forties and fifties. You know, as you know,
you know they Will Chamberlain played for them before he
played for the Lakers. The Globetrotters beat the Lakers. You know,
they were playing competitive basketball at the highest level. And
then it torned into let's do this all the show
and let's replicate that, and they did a great job.
Every game is competitive for us. You never know who's
gonna win. And we're building something what we believe is

(37:41):
the sport of banana ball as much as the Bananas
as the lead brand, so inspired by them, love what
they did for basketball. We hope we can bring more
fun to the game of baseball.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
What's the one thing you do, the one rule that
you have that you wish Major League Baseball would adopt.

Speaker 12 (37:56):
I think everyone will say if a fan catches a
foul ball, it's an out, because you know, just last
week at the Nationals Park, you know, we had three
fans catch foul balls and big situations, and we've had
a fifteen year old kid catch a foul ball to
win a game, which is unbelievable, but you know, think
about the two hour time limit, and you think about
if you win an inning, you get a point. So
every inning is a walk off situation. I mean walk

(38:18):
off home runs in the fifth inning. It's exciting. No
stepping out of the box, no walks, no bunting, no
mound visits. So everything has tried to make the game faster.
And you know, we played the game on ESPN the
day an hour and twenty nine minutes, nine innings. So
I think everyone wants the fan caught foul ball, but
I think there's other ones that could probably go into
the game a little easier.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
How do you get resumes or I'm guessing maybe players
send videos as opposed to a resume.

Speaker 13 (38:43):
Yeah, you got that right.

Speaker 12 (38:44):
It's auditions, So it's audition tapes, so very similar. You know,
again Saturday Night Live and you know probably Circus LA
we get audition videos and so yeah, I mean at first,
when no one wanted to buy tickets, no one wanted
to play for a team called the Bananas. I think
we've heard from maybe four or five thousand players and
a lot of guys didn't Minor league ball and they
send videos of them juggling, or videos of them dancing

(39:04):
or you know what, tap dancing or whatever they've had
while throwing the ball ninety two miles an hour, and
I'm like, all right, that looks good.

Speaker 13 (39:10):
Let's see what we got.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
He's Jesse call the Savannah Bananas, owner co founder of
fans First Entertainment. When you start to look at putting
on nights, different nights with the Bananas, you've had good
and bad. Give me, give me some of the good
that you've done, and then a couple of the bad
nights that you were trying to present.

Speaker 13 (39:33):
Well, the bad's easier.

Speaker 12 (39:34):
You know, every night is a show, and we do
ten to fifteen things every night We've never done in
front of a live crowd. So I could go into
you know, the living Pinata to the pregnant women dance
off to Flatulence Fun Night, to salute Underwear night. You know,
we do things every single night that might not go well.

Speaker 3 (39:51):
Wait, wait, how does flatulence Fun Night? Oh?

Speaker 13 (39:54):
That was very simple.

Speaker 12 (39:55):
You know, we gave out whoopy cushions, had a beam
berat in contest, you know, have party condcasts on the field.
That was That was a very that was way back
in the day. That was even before the bananas, my first team.

Speaker 13 (40:04):
So you know, you try things, Dan, that's part of way.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
Way do you bounce this off your wife and you say, hey, hon,
I got it.

Speaker 3 (40:12):
Blache lunch night, Yes, and.

Speaker 13 (40:14):
She usually looks at me like I'm crazy and I'm
used to that.

Speaker 7 (40:16):
But No.

Speaker 12 (40:17):
We have idea sessions every single day where we said, hey,
what are the craziest things we can do tonight that
we've never done before and that keeps it fun for
our players and funds for our fans.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
And pregnant women night too. Dance that pregnant dancing women.

Speaker 13 (40:30):
Yeah, to push it by salt, by Salt and pepper.
So we had them dancing by salt and pepper, which
was which which was great?

Speaker 12 (40:37):
Or or we had the Cougar Race where we had
women in their late forties and they had and they
had to race around first, have a drink with the players,
run around, second, run around third, pick up the players,
put them on their backs and run them take them home.
That was a fun one. We did at Houston, our
major league stadium for the first time. But uh menopops,
I mean I could keep going. We did pass the
Bill in DC where we actually had people our teams

(40:58):
passing people named Bill all the way down the lines.

Speaker 13 (41:01):
And so there's a lot of creativity.

Speaker 12 (41:03):
A lot of things don't work, but our fans expect
their ridiculousness, which is which is pretty cool to say.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
Okay, in all seriousness, if you can sit down with
Baseball Commissioner Rob Manfred and he asked for advice how
to make Major League Baseball more fun, what would you
tell me?

Speaker 12 (41:19):
Encourage all the celebrating for the players, break down the
barriers between the players and the fans. You go back
to when it was a game back in the nineteen
fifties and sixties, and you see the fans interacting with
the players in different levels, you see the players having
more fun, and I think the celebrating. You know, in
some levels of baseball they discourage all of that. Kids
want to see something that is fun. You think about

(41:40):
football in the touchdown celebrations. I know, when we play
the game Dan, we're told act like you've done it before.
But that's not what creates fans. Creates fans seeing these
guys that are at the highest level celebrating it and
really enjoying it. You know, I think they're getting better
at the speed of the game. But just encourage guys
after a home run, after a big strikeout, to celebrate
and fun, use props, use dances, use all that. We

(42:03):
try to celebrate things larger than life. And to see
the fans in their response to it has been really,
really special.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
When I first saw you guys, I couldn't help but
think what Bill Veck would be thinking about this, and
I'm sure he would have been smiling, saying, it's about
being a showman, it's about having fun. It's a game,
and there shouldn't be this line of demarcation between a
player and a fan.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
The line should blur.

Speaker 12 (42:27):
Bill Beck a tremendous inspiration for me. I've read all
his books, I've studied from him, I've got to know
his son, Mike fac and I love his quote. I
try not to break the rules. I merely test their elasticity.
And that's and that's what he did. He went to
an edge on everything. He would sit with the fans,
you know. I mean he once gave a fan twelve
live lobsters during a game just to see what he
would do with them.

Speaker 13 (42:46):
I mean, it was all about a reaction and he.

Speaker 12 (42:50):
Was unfortunately so far ahead of his time that the
other owners and baseball you know, gave him a lot
of challenges.

Speaker 13 (42:56):
I admire him, Walt Disney, P. T.

Speaker 3 (42:59):
Barne.

Speaker 12 (42:59):
I hope that, you know, we would be making him
proud with what we're doing to bring joy to the
game and also get so many more kids to play
the game and want to be a part of it.

Speaker 13 (43:07):
I think that's part of what we're trying to do.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
Vas Sectomy night. Have you had that reverse vas sectomy night?

Speaker 12 (43:15):
That was I think I think his son Mike vected that, right, Yeah, yeah,
it's I mean the idea is again so many great
ideas of the industry. You know, we're just trying to
look at the sport and try to keep keep that going,
you know, because as we've gone into more stats and
more analytics and more competitiveness. I mean, now we're fortunate
that we have so many major leaguers joining us, you know,
from Roger Clemens playing with us, and Jake Peevie and
all these guys joining us, and they say they get

(43:37):
to just go out and have fun, and it was
so competitive, it was so die hard you had to compete.
Now they want that and that's why we played as
a kid. So you know, I hope between all that
study and analytics and details that you know, we can
just remember that it was a game and it was
developed for kids and keep doing that every day.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
What's the website in case people are curious about seeing
game or if you guys are on.

Speaker 13 (43:56):
The road, we're very Savannah bananas. You can Vanamanns dot com.

Speaker 12 (44:00):
You can find us, and banana ball is really you know,
we have our second team, the Party Animals that now
they have more followers than every Major League baseball team
on TikTok. It's crazy. They are a second team, and
then the Firefighters our third team. So we're really building
the game of banana ball over the country and that's
really where you can find everything.

Speaker 3 (44:14):
Congrats Jess, good to talk to you, Thanks for joining us.

Speaker 13 (44:17):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 12 (44:18):
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