August 21, 2024 • 33 mins
New York Times best-selling author Ian O'Connor joins us to discuss his new book "Out of the Darkness: The Mystery of Aaron Rodgers." Meteorologist Jim Cantore stops by to break down possible obstacles for Delaware State getting to Hawaii for their week one matchup. And the fastest man alive, Noah Lyles, stops by to discuss his gold medal performance in the Olympics and the challenge from Miami Dolphins star Tyreek Hill.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
It is an unauthorized biography of Aaron Rodgers. Ian O'Connor, sportswriter,
New York Times best selling author, and the new book
is Out of the Darkness, The Mystery of Aaron Rodgers.
Why Aaron Rodgers, Well, it starts with Vince Lombardi.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Vincelambardi coached my high schools, the only head coaching job
he ever had before the Green Bay Packers, and he
lived eight houses away from me in Anglewood, New Jersey.
And so I was always fascinated by the packer mystique
and thought.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
I had a packer's book inside of me. So I
guess this is the one.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
But Aaron, from a distance, I always found him to
be compelling, mysterious, intriguing. He got traded into my backyard.
I was working on a Lebron James bio, and I
pivoted away from it to Aaron because I think he's
a fascinating character. And I thought the marriage of him
and this Charlie Brown franchise in New York would make
for a great story. So far hasn't been so great.
(01:00):
We'll see how it plays out this year but that's
why I took the project on.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
How do you avoid preconceived opinions notions of Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
It's not easy, but I was determined to go into
this open minded, and I think some of his friends
early on I ended up talking to two hundred and
fifty people, As Aaron said, I reached out to five
hundred and half called me back. That's about right, and
a lot of his friends, I think early on, in
close associates, were concerned that I had an agenda that
frankly and one of his friends told me this that
(01:31):
you're a media guy from New York, probably liberal, looking
to destroy Aaron in this book, and that couldn't be
further from the truth.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
I had absolutely no agenda whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
And I wanted to be open minded about the vaccine,
his stance on that and everything else, including the conspiracy theories,
and so I think I warmed down over time, and
that's the reason that he agreed to sit down with
me at his home in Malibu.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Unauthorized versus authorized. How different would this book be if
it was authorized?
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Well, when it's authorized, Dan, obviously it's that subject's truth
as opposed to the truth or the pure truth, and
I think that unauthorized. A lot of people readers think
it's a dirty word, like it suggests a trash book.
It's really a badge of honor. I think it's closer
to a pure form of journalism, and the ideal is
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unauthorized biography with the subject's cooperation.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
With Aaron.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
I didn't get full cooperation that would have required fifteen
to twenty hours. I got two hours with him at
the end of the process to check all of my facts,
and he did. He was very candid and thoughtful and
engaging at his home on the Pacific Ocean. It was
a great backyard setting for those two hours. But he
made the book better and I very much appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
I'm trying to figure this out because is he leading
us to believe that he wants to be left alone
do his own thing, but then still enjoys the spotlight.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
I think he wants to be talked about. I think
he always has, and I think he leans into it
now he's back. In August of twenty one, those four words, yeah,
I've been immunized.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
That turned him into a villain.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Before then, he was considered one of the more socially
aware athletes in sports. He was celebrated by the same
journalists who then turned on him after the truth came
out about his unvaccinated status. And I think after that
he decided to really dig in and if the media
wanted to go to war with him, he would be
a willing participant in that war. But I think at
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the end of the day, he likes creating new cycles.
He can do it just rolling out of bed. I've
rarely seen an athlete who could command the spotlight the
way he can. It's amazing that here we have a
Kansas City and Patrick Mahomes going for a three peat
and Aaron Rodgers, who hasn't been to the Super Bowl
in a long time, is still by far the most
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talked about person in the league. And that's really a
major reason why I decided to do this book.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Does he care what the public things?
Speaker 4 (04:01):
He's humans so he cares.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
He does, and he's admitted to me, at least in
one answer, that it does hurt when he gets criticized,
but he's a fearless public speaker. I do, on a
certain level give him a lot of credit for that,
because I'm not and I think most people aren't, and
he's willing to sometimes unfortunately defend indefensible positions on things.
(04:23):
But yeah, I think the criticism has hurt him, and
I think he was hurt after those four words.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Yeah, I've been immunized.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
When he felt that he had some media allies who
weren't there for him, he thought he would get some
support and some of those allies would rush to his side,
and that did not happen. So yeah, he bleeds too,
and I think that he tries to do a good
job of not showing that.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
But it's there, is Ian O'Connor. The book is Out
of the Darkness, The Mystery of Aaron Rodgers. Any similarities
with other people you've profiled with coach k Bill Belichick,
Derek Cheeter, Arnold Jack Nicholas.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Good question, Dan, I think the one similarity is, and
that's why I was surprised he admitted to me he
made a mistake with his COVID stance back in twenty
twenty one, is that they don't admit mistakes, these greats
coaches and athletes. They don't admit weakness and faults and errors,
and they never say I'm sorry. And I've come to
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believe the reason is because they fear that weakness will
follow them into the competitive arena and compromise their chances
of winning.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
And winning at a big time level and becoming an
all time great.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
And I think, really, when Aaron admitted to me he
made a mistake and wishes he had a mulligan on
his not his stance because he's still anti vaccine, but
just the way he did it and didn't tell his
truth at the time, which was he was allergic to
an ingredient and Pfizer and Maderna and concerned about Johnson
and Johnson's side effects. Said why didn't you just say that?
(05:57):
And he says, yeah, I should have said it. It was
a mistake. But when you admit fault guys like Aaron Rodgers, coach,
k Derrek, Cheeter, Belichick, when's the last time you heard
any of them say I'm sorry about anything? And I
really think it comes down to they think it will
hurt them in competition, and that's why they don't do it.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
If you gave Rogers a due over a mulligan of
going to the Jets or the Jets bringing Aaron Rodgers in,
Does anybody have a different opinion on that either side?
Speaker 3 (06:28):
No, I think Aaron would still do it. I think
the Jets would still do it. Of course after this season,
if they have a losing season or he's hurt again,
I think the answer would be different. But Aaron was
no longer wanted in Green Bay. He knew that effectively,
that was a firing. Even though he pushed for the trade.
He saw this great opportunity Dan in New York to
if he wins a ring for a franchise in the
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big city that has not been to the Super Bowl
since January sixty nine, that's going to feel like three
rings and it's going to be Messia in ninety four
for the Rangers on steroids. And I think looking at
Brady with seven rings and Aaron with one, he can't
close that gap. But if he wins the big one
for the Jets, it's going to feel like he really
did close that gap. And I think he saw that
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as a great opportunity, and I agree with him.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
I wonder about his career how he views it because
he's often referred to as the most talented quarterback, or
maybe the one or two most talented quarterbacks to ever
played the game, but he has won Super Bowl. Has
it been a disappointment to him in what he's accomplished,
even though he's been League MVP quite a few times.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
And I think the League MVPs helps a little bit,
and he did win more of those than Tom Brady,
but he that's not what people count. They count the
rings and he's down six to the guy he will
always be compared against, and that hurts. But he didn't
have Belichick, arguably the greatest coach of all time. He
didn't have Josh McDaniels, the best offensive coordinator in the league,
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and he didn't have that Patriot Way support system. There
were people who believe that Aaron would have won three, four, five,
maybe six rings with the Patriots in the same situation
Brady was in special teams and defense and coaching were
factors in some of those bitter playoff defeats. If you
look at particularly the period Dan from twenty thirteen through sixteen,
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those four seasons of lost postseason opportunities, Aaron made big,
sometimes magical, sudden death plays in each of those seasons
and there's nothing but failure in.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
The box score.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
So I do think his eleven to ten postseason record
can be a little misleading, But at the end, of
the day. He's barely over five hundred in the playoffs,
and he can't really run away from that.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
You let me go back to you saying that he
got fired by the Packers. Did he get himself fired?
It's one thing that you know the franchise is going
to turn on you, but it felt like they were
at a point of no return that they had to
do that.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
Well he ended up.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
It was a very similar situation to Brett Favre, ironically enough,
and Aaron was on the good side of that one
and now on the bad side of the franchise wanting
to turn it over to Jordan Love. And I think
that they always had later in his career the upside
and the downside of employing Aaron Rodgers, But the downside
got greater in that you had him. He wanted more personnel, say,
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and influencing decisions, and that's not really the pack away.
I think they gave him a little bit more late
in his career, but not enough. And then suddenly he's
not making the playoffs. That last year he looked like
a diminished player misses the playoffs, So we're not getting
the upside when Aaron's healthy, where we're getting in the
playoffs basically every year, so they wanted to move on.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
He knew that, and.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Again with the Jets, it was a great opportunity, Hey,
go to the big city.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
I'm coming from the smallest market in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Let me go to the biggest and try to pull
off something that would be pretty iconic. And so it
was both parties knew they had to have this divorce.
But deep down he's hurt by that, and people close
to him told me that. And so ideally, if he
could reach the Super Bowl, I think the team he
would want to face and bea it is the Green
Bay Packers for obvious reasons.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
What was the one question that you wanted an answer to?
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Family estrangement?
Speaker 3 (10:21):
And he did address some of that on the record,
and I appreciated that.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
Because he didn't know me an answer to that question.
But it's gone on now for nearly ten years, and
it's a complicated issue.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
There's not one defined moment, dan or issue that separated
this family. But I was happy that he agreed to
address that and also addressed that he his father told
me that they had a hug last year at Lake
Tahoe at the celebrity golf tournament, and Aaron came over
in the middle of his Saturday round, saw his father
in the crowd and gave him a hug and said
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I love you, and Ed Rodgers was crying, and it
was an emotional moment. It only lasted about thirty seconds,
but it meant something to both men. Aaron wanted to
be his father. His father was his idol when he
was growing up. And so Aaron told me for the book,
and this is the first time he's ever said this publicly.
He wants to have a relationship with a family member,
this being his father, and so hopefully that happens. And
(11:17):
I think the road to family reconciliation will run through
Ed Rodgers, and let's hope it happens sooner rather than later.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
If you had to predict what is Aaron Rodgers doing
after he's done playing.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
I think he'll be one of the best analysts in
a network booth. Ever, and I know he says he
doesn't really have interest in that, but when he's talking football,
there's nobody like him. I think he's even better at it,
or would be than Brady and Peyton Manning.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
He's a computer when he's.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Talking football, it's mesmerizing and I think he would be
unbelievable at it, and I don't see another path for him.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
I don't think politics is the answer.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
I think he'll stay in football, and that seems to
be the actual second career for him.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Good to talk to you, Ian, Good luck with the book.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Thank you, Hey, damn my pleasure, Thank you.
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Speaker 2 (12:49):
I was just walking around here in the main cave,
and I went and got my axe. That seat and
bought me. When I first decided that I was going
to build something in Maine, I went out and got
an axe thanks to seating. So, uh, there's a protective no, no,
protective covering there, Paully. That's what you do. You have
(13:09):
a protective covering there and then that goes right there
and then if you're walking around, if you happen to fall,
then you're protected there. That's what we do, us maners.
We know how to handle equipment. Yes, I think I
want to send you a cease and to sist with
this axe. Why. First of all, it's too small to
chop wood that thing. Wait, it's more of a hatchet,
(13:31):
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maybe you know that might be more for kindling than
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you know, cabin. You're building a log cabin in the
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So I've got the uh what's that called firewood log
racking team? Does this sounds?
Speaker 7 (14:03):
I know?
Speaker 2 (14:04):
This is not helping? Yeah, you're right, you know, once
I get terminology down, I am going to be awesome Firewood.
Yeah yeah, yeah. Uh, you know, speaking of tough, Jim
Cantorea the Weather Channel. He travels all over and usually
going to places that aren't very nice and joining us
on short notice so he can give us his thoughts
(14:27):
on the manliest states weather wise that you've ever been to. Jim,
thanks for joining us. The manliest state Okay, yeah, like
harshest weather, Like you've got to be a man to
live here. What would be your top dude?
Speaker 8 (14:43):
Honestly, the worst.
Speaker 9 (14:46):
The worst weather is Chicago, you know, dealing with the
wind off the lake. Because I was out doing live
shots one time, and you know, I didn't even notice
until I walked back into the truck. I'm guys, look
at my I'm looking in this little mirror. Look at
my nose. It's white. I got frostbite on my nose.
I didn't even realize that my cheeks were starting to
(15:07):
turn white. So yeah, Chicago's got to be Uh, that's
got to get that's got to get.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
The wind in Okay, what about rural areas.
Speaker 9 (15:17):
Oh my god, the outer banks in North Carolina. I mean,
they want to they want to hang me. They hate
it when.
Speaker 8 (15:22):
I come out there to cover hurricane because I am.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
But it's not your fault. You didn't ran the hurricane.
Speaker 8 (15:28):
Dan tell them that. Okay.
Speaker 9 (15:31):
By the way, when you when you were wheeling that
axe earlier, I thought if they were going to do
a remake for Fargo, I think you got it.
Speaker 8 (15:39):
I think you're a shoe in just sewing out.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Well, speaking of Fargo, where where like the coldest temperatures
where you just got it? Because I'm in Maine and
obviously you know I'm manly, but uh.
Speaker 9 (15:56):
I mean it's really the Northeast. There's just something about
that biting cold after storm. I mean one time we were
in Massachusetts in March for a thirty five degree snowstorm
and it was just like such a wet, gloppy snow
and it went inside all of my clothing. It was
just like, I'm like hypothermic right now. I am absolutely
I have to stop doing shots so I'm gonna freeze
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to day.
Speaker 8 (16:18):
So that was that was right, Werth.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Dakota's got to be up there, what's that? North? Dakota's
got to be up north. Dakota's got to be up north.
Speaker 9 (16:26):
You know what for the record, that's the only place
I have not been for the Weather Channel to do coverage.
I've done every other stake, every other stake except North Dakota.
Speaker 8 (16:36):
So I got to get that before I before I
leave this.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Okay, well you have Montana, Montana.
Speaker 9 (16:44):
Yeah, Minnesota, Wyoming did a you know thing at a
Yellowstone Minnesota. Minneapolis always cover snowstorms up there.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Okay, Yeah, let's go around the room. I who thinks
Jim cantoorre's ever been struck by lightning? Polly, I'll go
to you. I know, can the Weather Channel. I know
he wants to. It would be great for the brand,
especially live TV. I don't think he has. Okay, Todd,
has Cantory been struck by lightning? I think he's been
mildly electrocuted by lightning.
Speaker 8 (17:16):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Do you think I'm going to say no? I think
hold on, Jim, hold on? Are you gonna say no? Marvin, No,
I'm gonna say no, Jim, your answer.
Speaker 8 (17:35):
If I have, I don't know it, honest to god.
Speaker 9 (17:37):
I mean, I've been in thunder snow six different times
with many different episodes of it. Uh, and that is
something you actually can get struck during speaking of Maine.
The only fatality that we have on record, Dan is
a young man in Maine. He was out sledding and
he got thundersnow in the middle of a winter storm.
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So you can't actually get struck by it. But I
don't think that it's It's happened to me for the
best of my knowledge.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Delta's Delaware State is traveling to Hawaii and they're talking
about maybe.
Speaker 8 (18:11):
An they're trying to problems.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Right, is there a hurricane on the way, typhoons or
what kind of storm is headed towards Hawaii? Have you
checked your live local late breaking Doppler, Doppler super Dooppler radar.
Speaker 9 (18:29):
Dan, You know, I don't spend a lot of time
on the Pacific stuff, but I'll do this for you.
Speaker 8 (18:32):
Okay, now we do.
Speaker 9 (18:33):
We've been on this for First of all, there's the
area right there that we're looking at. Okay, that's the
here's Gilma behind that, and see another invest behind that.
Speaker 8 (18:45):
Okay.
Speaker 9 (18:46):
So here's what it looks like from a satellite perspective.
So there's Hawaii, you see it. Yeah, this this area
that we're watching, there's actually two systems here that are
going to come together and This is what they could
look like as they come toward wise. This is what
they call a GFS model. Hopefully this is pointed right
at it.
Speaker 8 (19:06):
So here's what it looks. Let's get together maybe tomorrow, and.
Speaker 9 (19:10):
Then it's working its way to the west and then boom,
here we are twelve Sundays. That Sunday morning. Let's just
go back six hours. So this is about game time.
It's pretty far away from Awahu's right there. That's where
the game is going to be played and where I
have the plus mark. So it's pretty far away. They'll
be some wind. I think there'll be some win here.
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But right now, you know, the thing's got to come
together and it's got to develop, and if it doesn't develop,
it's not going to be much at all. Listen, here's
the deal. Weather's the great equalizer they need to play
this game.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Thank you, Jim Jim Cantori meteorologists. Weather Channel will follow
him up with who you would expect, Noel Lyles, the
fastest man in the world.
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Speaker 2 (20:07):
He won a gold in the one hundred meters and
a bronze and the two hundred meters, while having COVID
Noah Lyles joining us on the program. Noah, congratulations. What's
it like when you race when you're expected to win
as opposed to you might surprise people and win.
Speaker 7 (20:24):
I'd say when you're expected to win, the pressure is
definitely a lot higher. People are always going to be
hanging on every word, and when they don't expect you
to win, you're more of a under the radar.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
It's a lot less pressure.
Speaker 7 (20:37):
It's a lot easier to win because you feel like
you're just going against the grain and saying, yeah, I
can do this, as opposed to, oh, I have.
Speaker 8 (20:43):
To do this.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
What made you think that you had lost the one
hundred meters?
Speaker 5 (20:49):
To be honest, I could.
Speaker 7 (20:50):
Usually I have that innate feeling that tells me, yeah,
I won this race and it's pretty good, even when
it comes down to very very close races. I've had
races all throughout the year that have been, you know,
the smallest of margins, and usually I have that feeling.
Speaker 5 (21:07):
And at the end of the race, I just didn't
have that feeling.
Speaker 7 (21:10):
I didn't know where I was in the race and
I was just like, you know, I this is one
of those moments that I'm just watching just like everybody else.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
How often do you practice that lean at the tape?
Speaker 7 (21:23):
I actually don't practice it. It's kind of just natural,
you know. I just know what it takes. I know
that if you throw your arm out enough, it will
throw the chest further. I also know that the torso
is what they count. And then you know, just knowing
those few facts, it's all about timing. It's all about
when you decide to lean. A lot of people will
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lean too early and some people won't lean early enough.
So just kind of getting down the timing, you know,
you just kind of learn it. It's kind of an
innate feeling you had.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Who's the fastest man in the world.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
That's me. I mean, that's what the title.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
But if I look at if I look at you
saying Bolt's time, is he still technical? Please?
Speaker 5 (22:08):
Hey, you're talking about records now, you're asking who the
world record is.
Speaker 7 (22:11):
You know, we've always given the title of fastest man
to a world champion and an Olympic champion.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
You know, we've it's just so.
Speaker 7 (22:18):
Happens for the last you know for eight uh sixteen
years that that was both.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
He had both.
Speaker 7 (22:26):
Usually you don't always have the person that has the
world record and the title at the same time. But
we in the sport of track bit have always given
it to the title of who has the Olympic one
hundred meters men's gold medal and who has the World
Championship hundred meters men gold medal.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
How long do you think it will take for somebody
to surpass Bolt's time in the one hundred meters.
Speaker 5 (22:48):
I'm trying to get it done as soon as possible.
Speaker 7 (22:51):
Unporentially, I don't have a crystal ball, so I can't
tell you an exact date. But I mean, as athletes,
we're always looking to improve ourselves and we're always looking
for greater challenge. And I think everybody sees the world
record as one is incredible and two as I want that.
Speaker 8 (23:05):
To be me.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
When did you know you were fast?
Speaker 7 (23:10):
I mean, I've kind of always known I was fast.
Both of my parents were runners. They both ran for
collegiately for seam Hall, and my dad even went professional
with Adidas. And you know, there's just that you know,
I'm faster than everybody on the playground feeling that you
have and it just never went away. So throughout the years,
it just continued to grow more and more, and then
I'm just I got to a point where I was like,
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you know what, I think I could be the great
set this. You know, I think if I really settled
down and work on everything, I possibly could be the best.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
What's that feeling like to run fast?
Speaker 4 (23:45):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (23:46):
It's a very you forque type of feeling. That's that's
why I feel it. It's very hard when a lot
of athletes leave the sport because they don't get that,
you know, adrenaline rush anymore. When you're running and you're
constantly feeling like you just go faster and fast. I
think the easiest way to describe it is if you
run down a hill, the hill kind of does most
of the work for you, so it feels like you
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can just run forever. That's kind of what it feels like.
When you're running at top and speed and you're pulling
out ahead of everybody.
Speaker 5 (24:13):
It's just like, oh my god, this is that I'm
the fastest. I'm the fastest.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
What's the strangest thing you've thought about while you've been running?
While it didn't in a race, can your mind wander
at all?
Speaker 5 (24:26):
It can? It could definitely wander.
Speaker 7 (24:28):
I've had races where, you know, me and my brother
are both professional runners and.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
Coming through high school.
Speaker 7 (24:35):
I think there was this time where we were running
and he was winning at a certain point in the race,
and I railed up, yelled out, oh you want to play,
and I just took off on him. Yeah, that was
pretty random of a thing to say in the middle
of the race.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
We're talking to Noah Lyles, one hundred meter gold medalist
in Paris. Is there a like depressions set in after
the Olympics with this is so big and now it's
over and then you got to wait four more years
for another Olympics.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
No, there's definitely. That's definitely a thing.
Speaker 7 (25:12):
I can't I can't remember the exact word for it,
but you almost like the Olympic syndrome.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
You know, coming from such a high.
Speaker 7 (25:19):
It's very hard sometimes for athletes to come down off
of that because you've you've worked for four years and
maybe more, and because of that, you don't know where
to go once you got up to the top. Because
most people can only imagine getting to the top. They
don't think of oh, once, what's on the other side.
I think me knowing what I want to do with
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the gold medal with the title has helped me in
a sense, also knowing who I am as a person,
knowing that if I got the medal or didn't, I'm
still going to be the same. No, I'm still going
to go out and attempt to run as fast as
I can. I'm still going to try and be a
creator and vinor a lover of the sport. But know
that I'm the same guy who's going to get on
my friends and play video games and take out the trash.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
You know that's still me.
Speaker 7 (26:03):
All those were just a form of me, and knowing
that helps me to say, hey, I'm perfectly fine going
back home and nobody knowing who I am, and then
at the same time walking outside and everybody.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Know Anybody tried to steer you to play football.
Speaker 7 (26:19):
All tons, tons of times, tons of times throughout high school.
They were just like, oh, yeah, we'll get you on
a wide receiver. We'll just put you on a go route.
Nobody will touch you. But my mom was very strict
on not having us, you know, do football. She was
very concerned about injuries, concussions, all that stuff, and rightfully so,
But personally, I'm not that big into physical contact sports.
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I think like basketball is the closest physical context where
I'll get to.
Speaker 5 (26:47):
But my brother, I tell you he was born to
be a wide receiver.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
But he's not. He's a professional track athlete.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
He is, he is.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
We went a different route. That's just how it is.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
And like, uh, we have a plan for you versus
Tyreek Hill, plan both. Yeah, how about you both wear
football uniforms.
Speaker 7 (27:14):
It's not a little two gimmicky for me. He's the
one who changes.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Okay, yeah, but we have to we have to make it.
This is for TV. No, I'm going to produce this.
So maybe that or you both hold a football and race,
or how about because see sixty meters, I know why
he wants to do fifty yards because even if he loses,
he's gonna lose. It'll be close. But one hundred meters
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that there's no interest in that. But you have everything
to lose. But you would still do this with Tyreek Hill.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
I'm not right.
Speaker 7 (27:49):
Look, he challenged me, so that means he wants the
crown of fastest man. So you have to race the
race that gives you the crown, there might be leeway
for adjustments. But if you think we're running anything that
has yards in it, and you're sorely mistaken. But we
can definitely have conversations. I'd have no problem having conversations
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about it. But you're right, this is entertainment. No, we
won't be running with pads on. But hey, I don't
have a problem laying down a track in the middle
of a football stadium and saying, hey, let's pack this
place out.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Okay, But I brought this up to you, sain Bolt.
I don't know how long ago when Tyreek Hill wanted
a piece of Usain Bolt, and I said, would you
be willing to put up one of your gold medals? Yeah?
And you would not put up your gold medal in
one hundred meters versus Tyreek Hill.
Speaker 5 (28:40):
What does he earn to deserve that status?
Speaker 7 (28:42):
He plays football and he's a great football player.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
But you don't get to jump.
Speaker 7 (28:48):
The line just because you think you're best. There's tons
of those people out there.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
What if you got his Super Bowl ring?
Speaker 7 (28:56):
I don't want a Super Bowl ring. I'm very very
content with my Olympic medals.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Well, DK Metcalf at least did try to do this professionally. Yeah,
I mean he took the steps. But yeah, if I'm Tyreek,
if I can get this to forty yards, then I
think he would probably sign up for that. But one
hundred meters. See, that's the difference. Though. You get to
top end speed and you stay at top end speed.
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Most people get to top end speed and then all
of a sudden it doesn't last long. That feels like
that's the difference between being football fast and being track fast.
Speaker 7 (29:36):
It is, but even in track, you get to top
end speed faster than the football players.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
They just don't know.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Is your slow start though? Explain your slow start or
what is perceived? Is it calculated that your start is
slower because you were i think in last place after
what fifty or sixty meters at the Olympics.
Speaker 7 (29:56):
Yeah, I'd say it's a perception compared to field that
I'm racing against. Yes, it looks slow. Compared to the world,
it's at the top of the list. I mean, you're
not going to find a faster starter out there if
you're just picking people off the street or even anybody
who's probably at a collegiate level or so on and
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so forth. But yeah, it's perceived slow because I'm going
up against the fastest men on the planet. But you know,
we all have our gifts and that's why we run
one hundred meters, because just because you start.
Speaker 5 (30:30):
In the first thirty meters in last doesn't mean that
you're gonna.
Speaker 7 (30:33):
End up that way at the one hundred meter mark,
and it's all about who crosses the tape first.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Your reaction to NBA players reaction to you talking about
you're not truly a world champ in your sport, but
you are in your sport.
Speaker 5 (30:50):
Yeah, what was the question?
Speaker 2 (30:53):
What is your reaction to what their reaction was to
what you had to say. You know, Kevin Durant and
Anthony Edwards there, you know some guys who took some
shots at you.
Speaker 7 (31:02):
To be honest, I think everybody missed the point which
happens when you just have fifteen second clips. I mean,
can you tell me what the question was asked that
proposed that answer.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
I'm not sure what. Yeah, but you were talking about, hey,
how can you be you're a world champ because you're
going against the world, whereas the NBA is not going
against the entire world or Major League Baseball.
Speaker 7 (31:30):
But that wasn't what the actual question that was proposed
to me was about. That was a very fifteen second
clip of what the whole answer was. That question that
was asked to me was what is it like going
back to the US and not being recognized for your
accomplishments like a lot of the other sports and countries
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that they have in other other places.
Speaker 5 (31:53):
And I said, it hurts because the US has such.
Speaker 7 (31:56):
A wide array of sports and great ath leads, and
unfortunately we give the title of world champion to other sports.
And that hurts me because I feel that we have
world champions and the ones that they're giving it to
are national champions.
Speaker 5 (32:15):
And that in basketball was an example.
Speaker 7 (32:17):
There are other sports that do it as well, and
it just hurts that because you do have world champions
like me, and you know there are you know, even
there's even a world championship basketball team that goes out,
you know, that's not a part of the EMS. And
there's also people who do in gymnastics, tennis, you know,
they based everybody who's on the world stage, you know,
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And that's the message that was trying to get it across.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
They were just an example of what The question that
was asking me was.
Speaker 8 (32:45):
Posing, that's fair.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Where's the gold medal?
Speaker 5 (32:50):
It's it's right over there. You're why you want to
see it?
Speaker 8 (32:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Yeah, yeah, you give.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
Me the.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Yeah, go get it.
Speaker 5 (33:01):
Yeah, it's it's kind of cool. I got a piece
of paras in it. It makes it real special.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Here we go, very shining. Now. You haven't shined that up,
have you?
Speaker 5 (33:12):
No, I haven't shined it up. Became like this. It's
actually a little dingier than when I first got it.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
You know what, you should show up to the race
with Tyreek Hill, no shirt on and just the gold
medal around your neck, just just kind of announce your
presence there.
Speaker 7 (33:28):
Noah, Hey, I'll I'll have everybody carry it like a
like a boxer. I'll bring away and Olympic medals and
I'll just have somebody carrying on.
Speaker 5 (33:41):
Somebody's gonna have a.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Heavy keep keep fighting a good fight. Thanks for joining us,
and again congratulate having me. That's Noah Lyles, fastest man
in the world.
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
It is an unauthorized biography of Aaron Rodgers. Ian O'Connor, sportswriter,
New York Times best selling author, and the new book
is Out of the Darkness, The Mystery of Aaron Rodgers.
Why Aaron Rodgers, Well, it starts with Vince Lombardi.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Vincelambardi coached my high schools, the only head coaching job
he ever had before the Green Bay Packers, and he
lived eight houses away from me in Anglewood, New Jersey.
And so I was always fascinated by the packer mystique
and thought.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
I had a packer's book inside of me. So I
guess this is the one.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
But Aaron, from a distance, I always found him to
be compelling, mysterious, intriguing. He got traded into my backyard.
I was working on a Lebron James bio, and I
pivoted away from it to Aaron because I think he's
a fascinating character. And I thought the marriage of him
and this Charlie Brown franchise in New York would make
for a great story. So far hasn't been so great.
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We'll see how it plays out this year but that's
why I took the project on.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
How do you avoid preconceived opinions notions of Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
It's not easy, but I was determined to go into
this open minded, and I think some of his friends
early on I ended up talking to two hundred and
fifty people, As Aaron said, I reached out to five
hundred and half called me back. That's about right, and
a lot of his friends, I think early on, in
close associates, were concerned that I had an agenda that
frankly and one of his friends told me this that
(01:31):
you're a media guy from New York, probably liberal, looking
to destroy Aaron in this book, and that couldn't be
further from the truth.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
I had absolutely no agenda whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
And I wanted to be open minded about the vaccine,
his stance on that and everything else, including the conspiracy theories,
and so I think I warmed down over time, and
that's the reason that he agreed to sit down with
me at his home in Malibu.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Unauthorized versus authorized. How different would this book be if
it was authorized?
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Well, when it's authorized, Dan, obviously it's that subject's truth
as opposed to the truth or the pure truth, and
I think that unauthorized. A lot of people readers think
it's a dirty word, like it suggests a trash book.
It's really a badge of honor. I think it's closer
to a pure form of journalism, and the ideal is
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unauthorized biography with the subject's cooperation.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
With Aaron.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
I didn't get full cooperation that would have required fifteen
to twenty hours. I got two hours with him at
the end of the process to check all of my facts,
and he did. He was very candid and thoughtful and
engaging at his home on the Pacific Ocean. It was
a great backyard setting for those two hours. But he
made the book better and I very much appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
I'm trying to figure this out because is he leading
us to believe that he wants to be left alone
do his own thing, but then still enjoys the spotlight.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
I think he wants to be talked about. I think
he always has, and I think he leans into it
now he's back. In August of twenty one, those four words, yeah,
I've been immunized.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
That turned him into a villain.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Before then, he was considered one of the more socially
aware athletes in sports. He was celebrated by the same
journalists who then turned on him after the truth came
out about his unvaccinated status. And I think after that
he decided to really dig in and if the media
wanted to go to war with him, he would be
a willing participant in that war. But I think at
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the end of the day, he likes creating new cycles.
He can do it just rolling out of bed. I've
rarely seen an athlete who could command the spotlight the
way he can. It's amazing that here we have a
Kansas City and Patrick Mahomes going for a three peat
and Aaron Rodgers, who hasn't been to the Super Bowl
in a long time, is still by far the most
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talked about person in the league. And that's really a
major reason why I decided to do this book.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Does he care what the public things?
Speaker 4 (04:01):
He's humans so he cares.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
He does, and he's admitted to me, at least in
one answer, that it does hurt when he gets criticized,
but he's a fearless public speaker. I do, on a
certain level give him a lot of credit for that,
because I'm not and I think most people aren't, and
he's willing to sometimes unfortunately defend indefensible positions on things.
(04:23):
But yeah, I think the criticism has hurt him, and
I think he was hurt after those four words.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Yeah, I've been immunized.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
When he felt that he had some media allies who
weren't there for him, he thought he would get some
support and some of those allies would rush to his side,
and that did not happen. So yeah, he bleeds too,
and I think that he tries to do a good
job of not showing that.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
But it's there, is Ian O'Connor. The book is Out
of the Darkness, The Mystery of Aaron Rodgers. Any similarities
with other people you've profiled with coach k Bill Belichick,
Derek Cheeter, Arnold Jack Nicholas.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Good question, Dan, I think the one similarity is, and
that's why I was surprised he admitted to me he
made a mistake with his COVID stance back in twenty
twenty one, is that they don't admit mistakes, these greats
coaches and athletes. They don't admit weakness and faults and errors,
and they never say I'm sorry. And I've come to
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believe the reason is because they fear that weakness will
follow them into the competitive arena and compromise their chances
of winning.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
And winning at a big time level and becoming an
all time great.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
And I think, really, when Aaron admitted to me he
made a mistake and wishes he had a mulligan on
his not his stance because he's still anti vaccine, but
just the way he did it and didn't tell his
truth at the time, which was he was allergic to
an ingredient and Pfizer and Maderna and concerned about Johnson
and Johnson's side effects. Said why didn't you just say that?
(05:57):
And he says, yeah, I should have said it. It was
a mistake. But when you admit fault guys like Aaron Rodgers, coach,
k Derrek, Cheeter, Belichick, when's the last time you heard
any of them say I'm sorry about anything? And I
really think it comes down to they think it will
hurt them in competition, and that's why they don't do it.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
If you gave Rogers a due over a mulligan of
going to the Jets or the Jets bringing Aaron Rodgers in,
Does anybody have a different opinion on that either side?
Speaker 3 (06:28):
No, I think Aaron would still do it. I think
the Jets would still do it. Of course after this season,
if they have a losing season or he's hurt again,
I think the answer would be different. But Aaron was
no longer wanted in Green Bay. He knew that effectively,
that was a firing. Even though he pushed for the trade.
He saw this great opportunity Dan in New York to
if he wins a ring for a franchise in the
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big city that has not been to the Super Bowl
since January sixty nine, that's going to feel like three
rings and it's going to be Messia in ninety four
for the Rangers on steroids. And I think looking at
Brady with seven rings and Aaron with one, he can't
close that gap. But if he wins the big one
for the Jets, it's going to feel like he really
did close that gap. And I think he saw that
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as a great opportunity, and I agree with him.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
I wonder about his career how he views it because
he's often referred to as the most talented quarterback, or
maybe the one or two most talented quarterbacks to ever
played the game, but he has won Super Bowl. Has
it been a disappointment to him in what he's accomplished,
even though he's been League MVP quite a few times.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
And I think the League MVPs helps a little bit,
and he did win more of those than Tom Brady,
but he that's not what people count. They count the
rings and he's down six to the guy he will
always be compared against, and that hurts. But he didn't
have Belichick, arguably the greatest coach of all time. He
didn't have Josh McDaniels, the best offensive coordinator in the league,
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and he didn't have that Patriot Way support system. There
were people who believe that Aaron would have won three, four, five,
maybe six rings with the Patriots in the same situation
Brady was in special teams and defense and coaching were
factors in some of those bitter playoff defeats. If you
look at particularly the period Dan from twenty thirteen through sixteen,
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those four seasons of lost postseason opportunities, Aaron made big,
sometimes magical, sudden death plays in each of those seasons
and there's nothing but failure in.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
The box score.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
So I do think his eleven to ten postseason record
can be a little misleading, But at the end, of
the day. He's barely over five hundred in the playoffs,
and he can't really run away from that.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
You let me go back to you saying that he
got fired by the Packers. Did he get himself fired?
It's one thing that you know the franchise is going
to turn on you, but it felt like they were
at a point of no return that they had to
do that.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
Well he ended up.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
It was a very similar situation to Brett Favre, ironically enough,
and Aaron was on the good side of that one
and now on the bad side of the franchise wanting
to turn it over to Jordan Love. And I think
that they always had later in his career the upside
and the downside of employing Aaron Rodgers, But the downside
got greater in that you had him. He wanted more personnel, say,
(09:23):
and influencing decisions, and that's not really the pack away.
I think they gave him a little bit more late
in his career, but not enough. And then suddenly he's
not making the playoffs. That last year he looked like
a diminished player misses the playoffs, So we're not getting
the upside when Aaron's healthy, where we're getting in the
playoffs basically every year, so they wanted to move on.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
He knew that, and.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Again with the Jets, it was a great opportunity, Hey,
go to the big city.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
I'm coming from the smallest market in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Let me go to the biggest and try to pull
off something that would be pretty iconic. And so it
was both parties knew they had to have this divorce.
But deep down he's hurt by that, and people close
to him told me that. And so ideally, if he
could reach the Super Bowl, I think the team he
would want to face and bea it is the Green
Bay Packers for obvious reasons.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
What was the one question that you wanted an answer to?
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Family estrangement?
Speaker 3 (10:21):
And he did address some of that on the record,
and I appreciated that.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
Because he didn't know me an answer to that question.
But it's gone on now for nearly ten years, and
it's a complicated issue.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
There's not one defined moment, dan or issue that separated
this family. But I was happy that he agreed to
address that and also addressed that he his father told
me that they had a hug last year at Lake
Tahoe at the celebrity golf tournament, and Aaron came over
in the middle of his Saturday round, saw his father
in the crowd and gave him a hug and said
(10:55):
I love you, and Ed Rodgers was crying, and it
was an emotional moment. It only lasted about thirty seconds,
but it meant something to both men. Aaron wanted to
be his father. His father was his idol when he
was growing up. And so Aaron told me for the book,
and this is the first time he's ever said this publicly.
He wants to have a relationship with a family member,
this being his father, and so hopefully that happens. And
(11:17):
I think the road to family reconciliation will run through
Ed Rodgers, and let's hope it happens sooner rather than later.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
If you had to predict what is Aaron Rodgers doing
after he's done playing.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
I think he'll be one of the best analysts in
a network booth. Ever, and I know he says he
doesn't really have interest in that, but when he's talking football,
there's nobody like him. I think he's even better at it,
or would be than Brady and Peyton Manning.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
He's a computer when he's.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Talking football, it's mesmerizing and I think he would be
unbelievable at it, and I don't see another path for him.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
I don't think politics is the answer.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
I think he'll stay in football, and that seems to
be the actual second career for him.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Good to talk to you, Ian, Good luck with the book.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Thank you, Hey, damn my pleasure, Thank you.
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Speaker 2 (12:49):
I was just walking around here in the main cave,
and I went and got my axe. That seat and
bought me. When I first decided that I was going
to build something in Maine, I went out and got
an axe thanks to seating. So, uh, there's a protective no, no,
protective covering there, Paully. That's what you do. You have
(13:09):
a protective covering there and then that goes right there
and then if you're walking around, if you happen to fall,
then you're protected there. That's what we do, us maners.
We know how to handle equipment. Yes, I think I
want to send you a cease and to sist with
this axe. Why. First of all, it's too small to
chop wood that thing. Wait, it's more of a hatchet,
(13:31):
really it. Well, okay, you have a tech you could
maybe you know that might be more for kindling than
than for like proper Yeah, you know what I'm doing
during the commercial break, So I'm putting together a log
you know, cabin. You're building a log cabin in the
(13:51):
no no, no, no, no, where you stack your logs? Where?
So I've got the uh what's that called firewood log
racking team? Does this sounds?
Speaker 7 (14:03):
I know?
Speaker 2 (14:04):
This is not helping? Yeah, you're right, you know, once
I get terminology down, I am going to be awesome Firewood.
Yeah yeah, yeah. Uh, you know, speaking of tough, Jim
Cantorea the Weather Channel. He travels all over and usually
going to places that aren't very nice and joining us
on short notice so he can give us his thoughts
(14:27):
on the manliest states weather wise that you've ever been to. Jim,
thanks for joining us. The manliest state Okay, yeah, like
harshest weather, Like you've got to be a man to
live here. What would be your top dude?
Speaker 8 (14:43):
Honestly, the worst.
Speaker 9 (14:46):
The worst weather is Chicago, you know, dealing with the
wind off the lake. Because I was out doing live
shots one time, and you know, I didn't even notice
until I walked back into the truck. I'm guys, look
at my I'm looking in this little mirror. Look at
my nose. It's white. I got frostbite on my nose.
I didn't even realize that my cheeks were starting to
(15:07):
turn white. So yeah, Chicago's got to be Uh, that's
got to get that's got to get.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
The wind in Okay, what about rural areas.
Speaker 9 (15:17):
Oh my god, the outer banks in North Carolina. I mean,
they want to they want to hang me. They hate
it when.
Speaker 8 (15:22):
I come out there to cover hurricane because I am.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
But it's not your fault. You didn't ran the hurricane.
Speaker 8 (15:28):
Dan tell them that. Okay.
Speaker 9 (15:31):
By the way, when you when you were wheeling that
axe earlier, I thought if they were going to do
a remake for Fargo, I think you got it.
Speaker 8 (15:39):
I think you're a shoe in just sewing out.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Well, speaking of Fargo, where where like the coldest temperatures
where you just got it? Because I'm in Maine and
obviously you know I'm manly, but uh.
Speaker 9 (15:56):
I mean it's really the Northeast. There's just something about
that biting cold after storm. I mean one time we were
in Massachusetts in March for a thirty five degree snowstorm
and it was just like such a wet, gloppy snow
and it went inside all of my clothing. It was
just like, I'm like hypothermic right now. I am absolutely
I have to stop doing shots so I'm gonna freeze
(16:17):
to day.
Speaker 8 (16:18):
So that was that was right, Werth.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Dakota's got to be up there, what's that? North? Dakota's
got to be up north. Dakota's got to be up north.
Speaker 9 (16:26):
You know what for the record, that's the only place
I have not been for the Weather Channel to do coverage.
I've done every other stake, every other stake except North Dakota.
Speaker 8 (16:36):
So I got to get that before I before I
leave this.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Okay, well you have Montana, Montana.
Speaker 9 (16:44):
Yeah, Minnesota, Wyoming did a you know thing at a
Yellowstone Minnesota. Minneapolis always cover snowstorms up there.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Okay, Yeah, let's go around the room. I who thinks
Jim cantoorre's ever been struck by lightning? Polly, I'll go
to you. I know, can the Weather Channel. I know
he wants to. It would be great for the brand,
especially live TV. I don't think he has. Okay, Todd,
has Cantory been struck by lightning? I think he's been
mildly electrocuted by lightning.
Speaker 8 (17:16):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Do you think I'm going to say no? I think
hold on, Jim, hold on? Are you gonna say no? Marvin, No,
I'm gonna say no, Jim, your answer.
Speaker 8 (17:35):
If I have, I don't know it, honest to god.
Speaker 9 (17:37):
I mean, I've been in thunder snow six different times
with many different episodes of it. Uh, and that is
something you actually can get struck during speaking of Maine.
The only fatality that we have on record, Dan is
a young man in Maine. He was out sledding and
he got thundersnow in the middle of a winter storm.
(17:59):
So you can't actually get struck by it. But I
don't think that it's It's happened to me for the
best of my knowledge.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Delta's Delaware State is traveling to Hawaii and they're talking
about maybe.
Speaker 8 (18:11):
An they're trying to problems.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Right, is there a hurricane on the way, typhoons or
what kind of storm is headed towards Hawaii? Have you
checked your live local late breaking Doppler, Doppler super Dooppler radar.
Speaker 9 (18:29):
Dan, You know, I don't spend a lot of time
on the Pacific stuff, but I'll do this for you.
Speaker 8 (18:32):
Okay, now we do.
Speaker 9 (18:33):
We've been on this for First of all, there's the
area right there that we're looking at. Okay, that's the
here's Gilma behind that, and see another invest behind that.
Speaker 8 (18:45):
Okay.
Speaker 9 (18:46):
So here's what it looks like from a satellite perspective.
So there's Hawaii, you see it. Yeah, this this area
that we're watching, there's actually two systems here that are
going to come together and This is what they could
look like as they come toward wise. This is what
they call a GFS model. Hopefully this is pointed right
at it.
Speaker 8 (19:06):
So here's what it looks. Let's get together maybe tomorrow, and.
Speaker 9 (19:10):
Then it's working its way to the west and then boom,
here we are twelve Sundays. That Sunday morning. Let's just
go back six hours. So this is about game time.
It's pretty far away from Awahu's right there. That's where
the game is going to be played and where I
have the plus mark. So it's pretty far away. They'll
be some wind. I think there'll be some win here.
(19:31):
But right now, you know, the thing's got to come
together and it's got to develop, and if it doesn't develop,
it's not going to be much at all. Listen, here's
the deal. Weather's the great equalizer they need to play
this game.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Thank you, Jim Jim Cantori meteorologists. Weather Channel will follow
him up with who you would expect, Noel Lyles, the
fastest man in the world.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
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Speaker 2 (20:07):
He won a gold in the one hundred meters and
a bronze and the two hundred meters, while having COVID
Noah Lyles joining us on the program. Noah, congratulations. What's
it like when you race when you're expected to win
as opposed to you might surprise people and win.
Speaker 7 (20:24):
I'd say when you're expected to win, the pressure is
definitely a lot higher. People are always going to be
hanging on every word, and when they don't expect you
to win, you're more of a under the radar.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
It's a lot less pressure.
Speaker 7 (20:37):
It's a lot easier to win because you feel like
you're just going against the grain and saying, yeah, I
can do this, as opposed to, oh, I have.
Speaker 8 (20:43):
To do this.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
What made you think that you had lost the one
hundred meters?
Speaker 5 (20:49):
To be honest, I could.
Speaker 7 (20:50):
Usually I have that innate feeling that tells me, yeah,
I won this race and it's pretty good, even when
it comes down to very very close races. I've had
races all throughout the year that have been, you know,
the smallest of margins, and usually I have that feeling.
Speaker 5 (21:07):
And at the end of the race, I just didn't
have that feeling.
Speaker 7 (21:10):
I didn't know where I was in the race and
I was just like, you know, I this is one
of those moments that I'm just watching just like everybody else.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
How often do you practice that lean at the tape?
Speaker 7 (21:23):
I actually don't practice it. It's kind of just natural,
you know. I just know what it takes. I know
that if you throw your arm out enough, it will
throw the chest further. I also know that the torso
is what they count. And then you know, just knowing
those few facts, it's all about timing. It's all about
when you decide to lean. A lot of people will
(21:44):
lean too early and some people won't lean early enough.
So just kind of getting down the timing, you know,
you just kind of learn it. It's kind of an
innate feeling you had.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Who's the fastest man in the world.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
That's me. I mean, that's what the title.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
But if I look at if I look at you
saying Bolt's time, is he still technical? Please?
Speaker 5 (22:08):
Hey, you're talking about records now, you're asking who the
world record is.
Speaker 7 (22:11):
You know, we've always given the title of fastest man
to a world champion and an Olympic champion.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
You know, we've it's just so.
Speaker 7 (22:18):
Happens for the last you know for eight uh sixteen
years that that was both.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
He had both.
Speaker 7 (22:26):
Usually you don't always have the person that has the
world record and the title at the same time. But
we in the sport of track bit have always given
it to the title of who has the Olympic one
hundred meters men's gold medal and who has the World
Championship hundred meters men gold medal.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
How long do you think it will take for somebody
to surpass Bolt's time in the one hundred meters.
Speaker 5 (22:48):
I'm trying to get it done as soon as possible.
Speaker 7 (22:51):
Unporentially, I don't have a crystal ball, so I can't
tell you an exact date. But I mean, as athletes,
we're always looking to improve ourselves and we're always looking
for greater challenge. And I think everybody sees the world
record as one is incredible and two as I want that.
Speaker 8 (23:05):
To be me.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
When did you know you were fast?
Speaker 7 (23:10):
I mean, I've kind of always known I was fast.
Both of my parents were runners. They both ran for
collegiately for seam Hall, and my dad even went professional
with Adidas. And you know, there's just that you know,
I'm faster than everybody on the playground feeling that you
have and it just never went away. So throughout the years,
it just continued to grow more and more, and then
I'm just I got to a point where I was like,
(23:30):
you know what, I think I could be the great
set this. You know, I think if I really settled
down and work on everything, I possibly could be the best.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
What's that feeling like to run fast?
Speaker 4 (23:45):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (23:46):
It's a very you forque type of feeling. That's that's
why I feel it. It's very hard when a lot
of athletes leave the sport because they don't get that,
you know, adrenaline rush anymore. When you're running and you're
constantly feeling like you just go faster and fast. I
think the easiest way to describe it is if you
run down a hill, the hill kind of does most
of the work for you, so it feels like you
(24:06):
can just run forever. That's kind of what it feels like.
When you're running at top and speed and you're pulling
out ahead of everybody.
Speaker 5 (24:13):
It's just like, oh my god, this is that I'm
the fastest. I'm the fastest.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
What's the strangest thing you've thought about while you've been running?
While it didn't in a race, can your mind wander
at all?
Speaker 5 (24:26):
It can? It could definitely wander.
Speaker 7 (24:28):
I've had races where, you know, me and my brother
are both professional runners and.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
Coming through high school.
Speaker 7 (24:35):
I think there was this time where we were running
and he was winning at a certain point in the race,
and I railed up, yelled out, oh you want to play,
and I just took off on him. Yeah, that was
pretty random of a thing to say in the middle
of the race.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
We're talking to Noah Lyles, one hundred meter gold medalist
in Paris. Is there a like depressions set in after
the Olympics with this is so big and now it's
over and then you got to wait four more years
for another Olympics.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
No, there's definitely. That's definitely a thing.
Speaker 7 (25:12):
I can't I can't remember the exact word for it,
but you almost like the Olympic syndrome.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
You know, coming from such a high.
Speaker 7 (25:19):
It's very hard sometimes for athletes to come down off
of that because you've you've worked for four years and
maybe more, and because of that, you don't know where
to go once you got up to the top. Because
most people can only imagine getting to the top. They
don't think of oh, once, what's on the other side.
I think me knowing what I want to do with
(25:40):
the gold medal with the title has helped me in
a sense, also knowing who I am as a person,
knowing that if I got the medal or didn't, I'm
still going to be the same. No, I'm still going
to go out and attempt to run as fast as
I can. I'm still going to try and be a
creator and vinor a lover of the sport. But know
that I'm the same guy who's going to get on
my friends and play video games and take out the trash.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
You know that's still me.
Speaker 7 (26:03):
All those were just a form of me, and knowing
that helps me to say, hey, I'm perfectly fine going
back home and nobody knowing who I am, and then
at the same time walking outside and everybody.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Know Anybody tried to steer you to play football.
Speaker 7 (26:19):
All tons, tons of times, tons of times throughout high school.
They were just like, oh, yeah, we'll get you on
a wide receiver. We'll just put you on a go route.
Nobody will touch you. But my mom was very strict
on not having us, you know, do football. She was
very concerned about injuries, concussions, all that stuff, and rightfully so,
But personally, I'm not that big into physical contact sports.
(26:43):
I think like basketball is the closest physical context where
I'll get to.
Speaker 5 (26:47):
But my brother, I tell you he was born to
be a wide receiver.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
But he's not. He's a professional track athlete.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
He is, he is.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
We went a different route. That's just how it is.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
And like, uh, we have a plan for you versus
Tyreek Hill, plan both. Yeah, how about you both wear
football uniforms.
Speaker 7 (27:14):
It's not a little two gimmicky for me. He's the
one who changes.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Okay, yeah, but we have to we have to make it.
This is for TV. No, I'm going to produce this.
So maybe that or you both hold a football and race,
or how about because see sixty meters, I know why
he wants to do fifty yards because even if he loses,
he's gonna lose. It'll be close. But one hundred meters
(27:40):
that there's no interest in that. But you have everything
to lose. But you would still do this with Tyreek Hill.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
I'm not right.
Speaker 7 (27:49):
Look, he challenged me, so that means he wants the
crown of fastest man. So you have to race the
race that gives you the crown, there might be leeway
for adjustments. But if you think we're running anything that
has yards in it, and you're sorely mistaken. But we
can definitely have conversations. I'd have no problem having conversations
(28:10):
about it. But you're right, this is entertainment. No, we
won't be running with pads on. But hey, I don't
have a problem laying down a track in the middle
of a football stadium and saying, hey, let's pack this
place out.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Okay, But I brought this up to you, sain Bolt.
I don't know how long ago when Tyreek Hill wanted
a piece of Usain Bolt, and I said, would you
be willing to put up one of your gold medals? Yeah?
And you would not put up your gold medal in
one hundred meters versus Tyreek Hill.
Speaker 5 (28:40):
What does he earn to deserve that status?
Speaker 7 (28:42):
He plays football and he's a great football player.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
But you don't get to jump.
Speaker 7 (28:48):
The line just because you think you're best. There's tons
of those people out there.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
What if you got his Super Bowl ring?
Speaker 7 (28:56):
I don't want a Super Bowl ring. I'm very very
content with my Olympic medals.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Well, DK Metcalf at least did try to do this professionally. Yeah,
I mean he took the steps. But yeah, if I'm Tyreek,
if I can get this to forty yards, then I
think he would probably sign up for that. But one
hundred meters. See, that's the difference. Though. You get to
top end speed and you stay at top end speed.
(29:28):
Most people get to top end speed and then all
of a sudden it doesn't last long. That feels like
that's the difference between being football fast and being track fast.
Speaker 7 (29:36):
It is, but even in track, you get to top
end speed faster than the football players.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
They just don't know.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Is your slow start though? Explain your slow start or
what is perceived? Is it calculated that your start is
slower because you were i think in last place after
what fifty or sixty meters at the Olympics.
Speaker 7 (29:56):
Yeah, I'd say it's a perception compared to field that
I'm racing against. Yes, it looks slow. Compared to the world,
it's at the top of the list. I mean, you're
not going to find a faster starter out there if
you're just picking people off the street or even anybody
who's probably at a collegiate level or so on and
(30:18):
so forth. But yeah, it's perceived slow because I'm going
up against the fastest men on the planet. But you know,
we all have our gifts and that's why we run
one hundred meters, because just because you start.
Speaker 5 (30:30):
In the first thirty meters in last doesn't mean that
you're gonna.
Speaker 7 (30:33):
End up that way at the one hundred meter mark,
and it's all about who crosses the tape first.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Your reaction to NBA players reaction to you talking about
you're not truly a world champ in your sport, but
you are in your sport.
Speaker 5 (30:50):
Yeah, what was the question?
Speaker 2 (30:53):
What is your reaction to what their reaction was to
what you had to say. You know, Kevin Durant and
Anthony Edwards there, you know some guys who took some
shots at you.
Speaker 7 (31:02):
To be honest, I think everybody missed the point which
happens when you just have fifteen second clips. I mean,
can you tell me what the question was asked that
proposed that answer.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
I'm not sure what. Yeah, but you were talking about, hey,
how can you be you're a world champ because you're
going against the world, whereas the NBA is not going
against the entire world or Major League Baseball.
Speaker 7 (31:30):
But that wasn't what the actual question that was proposed
to me was about. That was a very fifteen second
clip of what the whole answer was. That question that
was asked to me was what is it like going
back to the US and not being recognized for your
accomplishments like a lot of the other sports and countries
(31:50):
that they have in other other places.
Speaker 5 (31:53):
And I said, it hurts because the US has such.
Speaker 7 (31:56):
A wide array of sports and great ath leads, and
unfortunately we give the title of world champion to other sports.
And that hurts me because I feel that we have
world champions and the ones that they're giving it to
are national champions.
Speaker 5 (32:15):
And that in basketball was an example.
Speaker 7 (32:17):
There are other sports that do it as well, and
it just hurts that because you do have world champions
like me, and you know there are you know, even
there's even a world championship basketball team that goes out,
you know, that's not a part of the EMS. And
there's also people who do in gymnastics, tennis, you know,
they based everybody who's on the world stage, you know,
(32:38):
And that's the message that was trying to get it across.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
They were just an example of what The question that
was asking me was.
Speaker 8 (32:45):
Posing, that's fair.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Where's the gold medal?
Speaker 5 (32:50):
It's it's right over there. You're why you want to
see it?
Speaker 8 (32:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Yeah, yeah, you give.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
Me the.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Yeah, go get it.
Speaker 5 (33:01):
Yeah, it's it's kind of cool. I got a piece
of paras in it. It makes it real special.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Here we go, very shining. Now. You haven't shined that up,
have you?
Speaker 5 (33:12):
No, I haven't shined it up. Became like this. It's
actually a little dingier than when I first got it.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
You know what, you should show up to the race
with Tyreek Hill, no shirt on and just the gold
medal around your neck, just just kind of announce your
presence there.
Speaker 7 (33:28):
Noah, Hey, I'll I'll have everybody carry it like a
like a boxer. I'll bring away and Olympic medals and
I'll just have somebody carrying on.
Speaker 5 (33:41):
Somebody's gonna have a.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Heavy keep keep fighting a good fight. Thanks for joining us,
and again congratulate having me. That's Noah Lyles, fastest man
in the world.
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