August 26, 2024 • 40 mins
On today's Dan Patrick Show, DP recaps all the action from Week Zero of college football. Hall of Fame NFL head coach, Bill Cowher discusses what his approach was when it came to starting rookie QBs. And Darren Rovell reacts to the Babe Ruth jersey selling for $24 million.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:19):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
H Did that sound that didn't sound That didn't sound
Brady like. I remember being in the end zone of
a playoff game and Brady was running.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
He'd always run out and he'd run to the end.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Zone and he'd go, let's effing go, and he's running
right towards me. And it was kind of weird because
I'm watching him and he's seeing me, and he's yelling
let's effing go, staring right at me, and then he
just ran right past me.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
So I just I always think of that.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
I don't think I could get to that point where
I'm that emotional like Tom was before every game, so
let's go.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Imagine if that's exactly what it sounded like, though, Like
he's running, he's pumping his arm, his helmet shaking, and
he just says, let's go.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
It looks like he's saying it very enthusiastically, but he's
running right towards me. There was a moment when the
Patriots played the Super Bowl and they were going out
for the second half, and Tom I make eye contact
with Brady and he's going on to the field because
I'm I'm making eye contact on purpose because I'm thinking
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I'm going to be on the podium with him if
they win this, and so just so we can establish
or reestablish that relationship, I'm doing some prep work there
at halftime. I just remember he walked out of the
locker room and then I was, I don't know, fifteen
feet away, and he walked out and then he looked.
He didn't acknowledge. He just looked over at me, and
I went, Okay, all right, you're going to play that game.
(01:53):
I'll see on the podium maybe. And then of course
we had the Russell Wilson situation, all right, eight seven
to seven three DP show email address DP at Dan
Patrick dot com, Twitter handle at DP show Cutdown Day tomorrow.
In the NFL used to be they kind of trickled
these things out, like two weeks and then one week
and then this would be the final cutdown the week
(02:16):
coming up on Tuesday. College football season a lot of
fun Week zero, no calories, but some people lost more
than just wait. Here is how it sounded with Georgia
Tech saying goodbye to Florida State's undefeated season two York.
Speaker 5 (02:46):
Sets at the end of the same All right, Joe
test the tour bringing it home there.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
I don't know what he's going to sound like in December,
but he was pretty excited there for a week zero.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Oh my lucky charms.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
How many more things?
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Yeah?
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All right, Seaton poll question for our one is going
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to be what.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Uh, well, let's see this one is a hypothetical Okay, okay,
one of these matchups is real? One of them? Well,
we can make up one. Okay, would you rather watch
Week one? Which would you rather? Okay, Ravens Chiefs or
hypothetically two rookie quarterbacks facing each other?
Speaker 2 (03:52):
So if I could watch the Bears and the Commanders,
even though they don't play each other even though they don't, right, Yeah,
but this is like Marcus Mariota Jameis Winston. They did
play opening week. That wasn't a great game. I'd still
opt for Ravens Chiefs, Hey, but I at least thought
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about it because the NFL loves rookie quarterbacks. Because if
you said the Patriots, who do the Patriots play there?
They play Cincinnati. Well, now that the fact that Drake
May could be your starting quarterback, I'm like, if Jacobe
Brissette was starting, I'd go.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Maybe not.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
If Sam Howell or Trace McSorley was starting instead of
Jayden Daniels, I'd go probably not. But you have rookies.
We may have four rookies starting. Bow Nix is starting
in Denver. You're gonna have Jayden Daniels, You're gonna have
Caleb Love, and maybe you're gonna have Drake May, Caleb Williams.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Who did I say, Kaylen blow hybrid over the Packer quarterback?
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Yeah, there you go. Bears fans wish that he would
be like Jordan Love. They'd be fine with that. But
you might have four rookie quarterbacks starting, and that makes
those games far more interesting. Now you're going to watch
the Bears. You know, the Bears are nationally televised game
Week two against the Texans. Now that has a lot
to do with the Texans and expectation level. But also
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you have Caleb Williams going against you know, c J. Stroud.
That's interesting. Jayden Daniels is a lot of fun. I
just hope that the commanders show him video of RG three,
like what RG three did well and you know where
he got himself in trouble where he ran and took
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on defenders, because that's the only thing that's going to
literally hurt him figuratively hurt him is getting out of
the pocket and running because he is very slight.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
But he is a whole lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
And now I'm not to the point where Chris Collinsworth
was last night where he was kind of frothing at
the mouth over Jayden d Well even Drake May. Drake
May threw some passes where I go, I don't know
if those are great passes.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
I think they were great catches, but.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
You know that back shoulder it felt like every pass
was behind a receiver and then the receiver would get smashed,
and I go, I don't know if that's my design.
If I'm a receiver, after like the second or third one,
I'm like, dude, I bet you lead me instead of
me getting you know, whacked every time.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Yeah, Paul, it's funny.
Speaker 6 (06:30):
You and Seaton came in here today and said, Drake
may Man, he's got some high footballs. He's got some
behind the back passes. I only saw one clip because
I didn't see the game. I saw the highlight.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
He rolled left through right.
Speaker 6 (06:41):
Across his body at the a whole, and just because of
that clip, I thought he had a great night.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
That's all it takes.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
You could have one drive and all of a sudden,
Russell Wilson comes out his game and you're like, all right,
here we go.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
All right, Russ.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Here's Mike tomlin on waiting this week to name his starter.
Speaker 7 (06:58):
We'll make a decision at the end of our work week.
This upcoming week, we got three days of Stellers versus
Steelers work, and why.
Speaker 8 (07:05):
Not do it?
Speaker 7 (07:05):
Then it kind of, you know, minimizes the Steelers versus
Stellers work. When we started making decisions prior to the
completion of that, We've got ample time to put pare
for Atlanta and make whatever decisions or announcements regarding divisional
labor or pecking orders and so forth, and so we'll
do it at the end of the work week.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Do they need to announce Why would you announce? You
have to announce the injuries. You don't have to announce
who your starting quarterback is, at least I don't think
you do. Why would you do it in the first place?
If it's a foregone conclusion.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
I'm going to guess the Steelers know who the starting
quarterback's going to be. And I'll ask Bill Kauer about this.
It feels like it's Russell Wilson. Now do I think
this was a true Hey, this is a competition that's open. No,
I do not, because I thought Justin Fields did some
fun things, interesting things. Now you may not want to
live and die by that. I get that. But here's
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the problem I've seen so far is is that Steeler
offense going to be any better with a new offensive coordinator?
And are you going to be you know, the offensive line?
Bill Belichick pointed that out. That's the issue. And it
feels like I need somebody who might be able to
make a player too, and that would be Justin Fields.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Is he a better quarterback?
Speaker 8 (08:22):
No?
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Is he a better playmaker? Yes? And you might need
that playmaker.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
You may need to have that risk and reward with
justin fields because you're going to have to generate some
offense and you're in the most competitive division in football.
You can't afford to get behind in a game. You
can't afford to get behind as far as wins in
that division. And Pittsburgh's got a tough road here because
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I haven't seen you know, the defense is good.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
We know that they have playmakers there, certainly with TJ. Watt.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
I just don't know if they have playmakers on offense.
You have a good offensive coordinator, and Bill Belichick when
he was on McAfee was singing the praises of Arthur Smith.
So I'm certainly going to trust what Bill has to say.
You can be a great offensive coordinator. You need to
have an offense that you can coordinate. That certainly would help.
Phone calls always welcome on Monday, best and worst of
(09:17):
the weekend. Operator Tyler is sitting by to take your
phone calls. So college football, that was fun, some really
interesting games there, and the NFL with the final weekend
of the preseason so we'll talk to Bill Kauer about that.
Some baseball, the good and the bad. Aaron Judge now
is on a pace to hit sixty three home runs
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and the bad. The White Sox are now thirty one
and one hundred. I think it was three years ago
they won ninety three games. It's really hard to be
that bad. Second fastest team in the modern era to
reach one hundred losses the nineteen sixteen Phillies. That's not
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even the modern era. Nineteen sixteen Phillies were twenty nine
one hundred and one.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Oh tie.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Yeah, they got a tie, or they would have twenty
nine one hundred and one, So they got to one
hundred losses faster.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Yes, Pauline, what year was that record from nineteen sixteen.
Speaker 6 (10:20):
I'm not making a joker. I did not know it
was possible to have a tie in baseball. In the
history of baseball, I've never seen a tie on a
team's record slate.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Well, maybe we could do a deep dive on how
they came up with that tie. You would think that
they would resume the game and eventually get around to, Hey,
we're gonna we're gonna finish this game. By the way,
the Red Sox announced that Danny Jansen will Replacerhyese McGuire
as the catcher in the continuation of the Red Sox
(10:49):
suspended game today against the Blue Jays. So he is
the first player in baseball history to appear for both
teams in the same game.
Speaker 7 (10:59):
He was.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Stead of a day, start of a day, start of
a day.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
Start out a day.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
This is the start of the day stat of the Day,
brought to you by Pandi America, the official trading cards
to the program. So Danny Jansen was batting with an
one count for the Blue Jays when the game was suspended.
So he's going to be the catcher for his own
it bat, but he's going to be the catcher for
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the Red Sox. Somebody else with the Blue Jays is
going to take I mean, how bizarre is that? First
time that's ever happened in baseball history. All right, uh,
pull question seating anything else that you're thinking first hour
in this program.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Yeah, we could throw up there. Is it harder to
win one hundred games or lose one hundred games?
Speaker 3 (11:48):
As that is not easy to do?
Speaker 4 (11:50):
Yeah, we also have up there or we're about to
put up there. Would you rather retire a year earlier,
a year late.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Okay, I'm gonna save that one. By the way, I'm
looking at Week two. You got Russell Wilson at bo
Nicks at Denver, So Russ has to be your starting
quarterback at least for the first couple of weeks, right,
I mean, we got to keep with the story. This
is about content. These are TV shows. Cincinnati will be
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at Kansas City, Chicago will be at Houston. Chicago Houston
is Sunday Night on NBC Week two.
Speaker 9 (12:26):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
But Pittsburgh at Denver, and that's going to be the
big game for CBS. That's a four to twenty five
game on CBS on Sunday. Cincinnati and Kansas City that'll
be a four to twenty five game on CBS as well.
So just some of the matchups there as we get ready.
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No word yet on I guess the Cowboys and Cede
Lamm are a million dollars apart. But I don't know
what that means because Jerry didn't have anything to say after,
you know, the final game. He didn't want to didn't
have any updates. I shouldn't say he didn't want to talk.
He had no updates on CD LAMB, but like, at
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what point, let's say they're eight hundred thousand or six
fifty apart, do you then go all okay, one side
caves in there. I just I don't know the risk
and the reward for the Cowboys in CD Lamb with this,
you got to you have to be ready to go football,
ready to go, and Jerry knows this. To get Cede
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Lamb ready to go, ready to play. Just feels like
there's always something hanging over the Cowboys, and you certainly
have that with your quarterback and your coach already, so
you've you're adding, not subtracting. That always makes me nervous,
especially with a team like the Dallas Cowboys.
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Speaker 2 (14:32):
Yee, here comes the Hall of Fame coach Bill Kawer
NFL today on CBS Studio Analyst. We were talking about
philosophy on starting a rookie quarterback. You had Ben Roethlisberger,
but he didn't start week one, Is that correct?
Speaker 8 (14:52):
That's correct, Dan, Good to see you again. But yeah, no,
he did not start week one. There. In fact, the
whole idea when we drafted him, as we had Tommy
Maddox we Charlie Batch, is to be able to bring
them along slowly, which we did in training camp. Give
him you know, we worked mostly what he worked on
was the no huddle because we usually thought we'd put
him into the game at the end of a game
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or at the end of a half and just to
give him a chance to kind of go out there
and do his things. So he did not start Week one.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
But that difference of just absorbing a game on the
sidelines as opposed to, you know, learning on the job.
How big of a jump is that for these quarterbacks.
Speaker 8 (15:29):
I think it's very big, and I think you know
a lot of times. To me, the approach that you
take is with the young guys. When you start the
season as a starter, there's not just the element of
the unknown, because the game is so much faster, so
much more complex, so much more involved when the regular
season starts as opposed to a preseason, So you've got
to make sure there's not a false sense of confidence
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you have going in and then the expectation you have
of not letting down your teammates. So I think ideally
you put a situation. I mean, how it played out
for Ben was great. He didn't have expectation going in.
He was thrust it into the job when Tommy Madix
got hurt, so you really have time to think about it.
So it almost alleviated that type of pressure. I'm the
second guy. I'm gonna come in here and just kind
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of do my thing. And obviously from that time on
he won his first fifteen games because we kind of
built things around him. We had a defense, we had
a running game, and as he became more comfortable, we
allowed him to do a lot more things from a
passing standpoint.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Why is Mike Tomlin waiting?
Speaker 8 (16:26):
The name is starter, because there's two different styles of quarterback.
Why give someone a little extra time to prepare. I
think you're preparing for Russell Wilson. There's a there's you
can see that you know he's gonna stay in the pocket.
He's not looking to run, he's looking to throw down
the field. Justin Field is an element in a running game.
He's another guy that he's an option. So I think
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you know, it's just just doing it from a strategical standpoint.
And obviously you're going down with Arthur Smith his first
game at Atlanta where he just came from. And so
I think Russell will be the starter, and I think
will be a package of play that you'll have for
Justin Fields and you see how that evolves to the
course of the season. So I think I think it's
a very natural and good position for them to be
in right now to evaluate both.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Yeah, it takes me back to Cordell Stewart. Who was
it Mike tom Zach I think, And so you had
sort of the older quarterback and then you had the
younger quarterback who was more athletic. Now granted Tom Zach
and Russell Wilson are different talent wise, but trying to incorporate.
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Can you see Mike trying to incorporate justin fields sort
of similarly, Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 8 (17:37):
I mean, he'll keep them involved and I think again
making taking the pressure of not having to start. Russell's
been there. There's a package you're going to want to do.
It's a play actually be a big part of what
they do, and that plays into what Russell does best.
So I think the running game is going to be
the forefront. They've got to get the offensive line straightened out.
But they've got a lot of pieces up there, and
certainly when Fontaneau got hurt, the number one pick this
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year brought it Jones to go to the right side.
They see him on the left side. But now you
have Zack Frazier, and I think was a great pick
for them in the second round as a starting center.
So there's a lot of good places pieces in place,
but it takes time for those guys to kind of
come together, but I think he's going to keep them
both in play because justin Fields is just too big
of a weapon. He gives you the big plays that
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maybe you're not going to get in the passing game,
but in the running game, he gives you another thing
that they have to defend.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
I'm talking to Bill Cower, the Hall of Fame coach
NFL today on CBS studio analyst. One of your fellow
studio analysts, JJ Watt. You said showed up, looked like
he's in playing shape. I don't know if JJ appreciated
what you said, but can you see a team reaching
out to JJ Watt and tempting him to come out
of retirement.
Speaker 8 (18:45):
Yeah, I think it's gonna have to be the right situation.
I think the only place that would ever be the
case probably could be the Houston Texans or even maybe
the Pittsburgh Steelers that they came down to it and
it have to be what his role would be. But
I think, yeah, I jokingly say that because you look
at him right now, he has traded. He looks like
he's actually at the same way he was when he played.
There's not much body fat on that so I'm just like, Okay,
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at some point are you going to come and bring down?
But are you ready to play again? So, but JJ's
got a lot of things going on. He's such a
talented man. It came off the field, and I'm looking
forward to working with him at CBS this fall.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Yeah, he talked about being tempted of coming back and
trying to play for Green Bay but with his brother.
I mean, it'd be kind of cool, but I don't
mean you do.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
The Texans still own his rights though.
Speaker 8 (19:34):
Well, I think he can go anywhere he wants right
now because he's been out of the game for a
couple of years now or two years, so he's he
I think I think his contract has done so he
would have to do that. He could sign anywhere, but
I think the Texans is worse hearts at and obviously
with his brother in Pittsburgh. I would think those are
the only two places in my opinion.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
When you watch Patrick Mahomes, if you're going to have
a I guess a defensive plan, what would you do like?
Speaker 3 (19:58):
What do you take you like?
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Do you subscribe to what Belichick says let me take
away your best weapon?
Speaker 8 (20:05):
Yeah, I mean I think certainly Travis Kelcey is a
go to for him, and I think that's the guy.
And he's got some other people. You know certainly that
they picked up the rookie receiver. But for me, Patrick Mahomes,
you have to keep him in the pocket and just
you know, and take your chances there, because when he
gets out of the pocket, his vision, his ability to improvise,
his ability to create is something that you can't defend
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because the plague gets extended longer, and if longer the
play gets extended, the more heats vision opens up, and
he's got the accuracy and the ability to make all
types of different throws. So to me, making him stay
in the pocket, taking away Travis Kelsey, I start right
there and then live with whatever goes from that.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Yeah, but how do you keep him in the pocket.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
You know, it sounds good, but then the game happens
and then all of a sudden he's out out of
the pocket.
Speaker 8 (20:55):
You know. I think Louis and Rumo had a pretty
good plan against and the Cincinnati Mangles when they played
against them in the championship game. And you have to
mix things up against someone like Patrick Mahomes. You can't
go in there and show them the same thing in
the first quarter and the fourth court that you're showing
them in the first quarter. So to me, it's about
mixing up the looks. It's about bringing three man pressures,
about bringing five man pressures, but again making sure that
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I've got containment on both those edges so that you
know he's gonna try to step up as well. But
I would run him more in the pocket executing a
passing game than when he gets outside the pocket.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Would you rather face, Well, who would you rather not face?
Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers or Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 8 (21:36):
Oh that's a great choice. I brought it up. Face
any of those three.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
I mean, but you got to pick one. You gotta go, okay,
I Well.
Speaker 8 (21:45):
I mean, I think I think the one thing that
you look at with Patrick is the improvisation. I mean,
those are things it's hard to prepare for. Like you
just talked about, how would you stop keep them in
the pocket? Easier said than done, because they do a
great job with that. With all the different things that
they do with andy Re's offense, just spread you out.
So they try to spread out the coverage and open
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up some of the ways because you can't fix You
can't fill every winge when you start having the things
spread out. Certainly, Tom Brady's going to pick you apart
by reading you. Aaron Rodgers can make all the throws,
still has the mobility. So there's they all have three
elements to them. But they're all just special players. And
so but I say, right now, just because the athleticism
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that Patrick Mahomes presents, he'd be the least. He'd be
the one person that would fear me the most.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
How do you sum up the Dallas Cowboys situation here
with the coach and his last year quarterback and his
last year star receiver is holding out Michael Parsons looking
for a new deal a little early. So how do
you handicap what to expect out of the Cowboys.
Speaker 8 (22:49):
There's a sense of urgency, for sure. I think everybody's
playing for contracts. Some people are playing for jobs. It's
a unique situation down there because, like you said, you
know it's probably hard for you know, you look at
Dak Dak, I mean, why is he going to sign
an extension? You don't even know who the coach is
going to be next year because the coach is the
last year of his contracts. So you know, there's there's
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a little bit of flux down there, turmoil if you
want to use theatrics. But isn't that always kind of
the Dallas Cowboys. They may they kind of thrive in
that kind of atmosphere. So it's one of those things
that right now, a lot's going to happen over the
next couple of weeks. Uh. You know, I think City
Land will get in there. I think Mike is going
to be their Week one and I think what you'll
have is a quarterback and the head coach that are
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kind of playing for their both both their careers, and
I you know, in a weird way, probably not the
worst thing in the world. But you know, the one
thing that happens with situations like that is you get
into adversity. Do you come together or do splinter apart?
And that's the thing that happens. You know, if he
comes out early, the season starts out, you know, a
little question more early in the season, how do they
handle adversity?
Speaker 3 (23:53):
Did you ever get involved in a salary dispute.
Speaker 8 (23:57):
With the uh? You know what when the players had it?
You know, all I try to do is I know
I never negotiated on behalf of anybody. You know, I
always if I did anything, I understood where the player
was at and you know, understood what they're looking for.
And at times you know you know that this is
where we are with where you know, how we approach
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things philosophically, and sometimes that's not going to mess with
what you want. And I always try to say, like,
put a price of enjoying where you go to work
to put a monetary value on that. And if that
doesn't meet what if you can't meet that, bridget together
with that, then play it out and I wish you
nothing but the best. So I mean I think again,
as a coach, you want to try to seize every
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year because every year is different, and sometimes if it's
the last year of a contract or a player, I
want to make sure that I'm doing that. I'm not
looking to develop my team for next year. I'm looking
to take advantage of this year and get the most
I can because that's that's only being fair to the
players who are going on a year to year basis. The
veterans are a year So I'm not trying to develop
a younger team. Okay, well we'll be good two or
three years. Now. Every year to me is an opportunity
(25:03):
to make the playoffs and establish a winning atmosphere within
your culture, within your your building.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
What's the coolest thing in your office.
Speaker 8 (25:12):
The coolest thing in my office was actually the very
first signing bonus I got. I actually got to check
signing bonus was I was a rookie. I was I
was a free agent with the Cleveland Browns because I
got cut the year before, and so I signed for
one thousand dollars signing bows and I still have the
check when they took out the taxes for six hundred
(25:32):
and eighty two dollars. So every time people come in
and just talked about guaranteed money and what they had,
so I used to walk over to my desk and
just say, listen, I got to show you this, this
signing bonus of mine because it's it just tells you
that you're here because you love the game. Those things
will take care of themselves. But this is what I
played for because I was a backup player in my
(25:53):
you know, so I love the game. So I kept
that check there at times when just to put things
in this proper perspective.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
When's the last time you had a real itch to coach.
Speaker 8 (26:03):
You know what, Dan, I know what it entails. I
love talking to coaches even today and talking about things
that I see from the outside. I know on the inside,
it's not everything you see on the outside. There's a
lot of other things that take place. But you know,
clock management, I see that at times, you know, being
able to play to your strengths and not to try
(26:24):
to develop something that you're not understand who your identity
is as a football team. And I kind of like
what I see. I mean, I love the fact that
we've got this passing link with This past year, we
had eight new head coaches. Five of them were defensive coordinators.
So now all of a sudden, the defense is becoming
a little bit of that. Why because all of a sudden,
you saw the Kansas City Chiefs reached the basement of
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where they were a year ago on Christmas Day, frustration
on the sidelines. What got them back into the playoff
hunt was all sudden. This guy named Isaiah Picecko gave
a degree of toughness on offense, a defense became stifling,
and they went into the playoffs underdogs and kind of
use that chip on their shoulder. No one believes in us,
you know, they don't. They don't respect us. So you know,
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it still goes a long way having balance on your team.
Even as great as Patrick mahonomes is. It was the
running game with Isaiah, but Checko was a defense that
led also to that championship. Special player, no question. And
then you see five of the eight defensive coordinators and
the sixth to one was Jim Harball. We know what
Jim Harbor is going to do. He's going to run
the football. You know. He brings in Greg Roman from Baltimore,
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a couple of backs from Baltimore, and take Justin Herbert
and say, okay, I know you're a great quarterback, but
we're going to give you a balance running attack as well.
So the NFL is cyclical. I really believe that we
go through periods and trends of wanting to throw the
ball and be this really open team, but really to
have sustained success, it goes back to the same thing. Yes,
a great quarterback is your lawyer's looking for that, but
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you better have a balanced football team that can throw it,
that can run it, that can play defense. They have
a good kicking game.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
You avoided the question there coach Len's LEI we had
a true itch to come back, or somebody reached down
to you to coach.
Speaker 8 (28:04):
Oh, I've spent years. I mean it's been a few years.
I mean I just don't have the inches to make
that kind of demand, the time demand, because I know
what it is. I mean it's a you know, I
love coaching on Sundays, but I also love the off season, Dan,
I mean, I love when the season's over to be
able to travel. I don't get involved with pre agency.
I watched the draft. I don't study the draft. I
see the OTAs, but I see training camp and I
(28:27):
get that, Okay, this is awesome. But get to talk
to the coaches on Monday. But I've said this before.
I'm going to my eighteenth year at CBS. I said,
I coach every team every Sunday, and I haven't lost
a game in eighteen years, so I feel really good
the rest of the week. So I have not gone
that inch in a few years.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Well, sometimes you need to have your wife remind you.
Speaker 8 (28:46):
You know.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
That's it's like.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
No, no, no, no, no, no, remember we're not doing this.
I know, I know, I know, no, Bill, We're not
doing this right.
Speaker 8 (28:55):
Well, my wife, who's a musician, she was never like
I met her after I got out of it, and
she's always been saying, if you want to do it,
you can do it. And I would say, but that I
would not be spending the same time that we're having
this conversation. I would not be with you right now.
So you know, there's always been great places on the beach,
you know, in the city and a restaurant. We wouldn't
be here right now. So I would be in that
(29:18):
building trying to change a culture, committed to making sure
that we win, and trying to build a championship team.
So I said, but and that's that's the commitment that
coaches have to make. That's the commitment that wives have
to make, which is very very much a sacrificial situation,
a position that you have. You're the mother of your father,
you run the household. You're trying to keep things stable,
(29:38):
you know, keep people from from the media, overreacting to
every loss, overreacting to wins. So it's it's a lifestyle.
You're living in a bubble. And I loved it for
the period of time I did it, but no interest
in going back.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
But when you're taking out the garbage, you know, just
you know, does it kind of hit you like I'm
taking out the garbage like I should be prepping for
you know, opening week.
Speaker 8 (30:03):
And and I am right now I'm talking to you.
We got two weeks and you get to talk about
all these teams and I think everything that's doing. So
I have the platform, which is why I really do
love what I do on Sundays to be able to
talk about it from a strategical standpoint, from a just
a tactical standpoint, from just an organizational cultural standpoint of
trying to build something that's sustainable over a long period
(30:24):
of time. And again, you know, I try it. I
have contacts throughout the league with people and talk with
them about what I see. And again I know that
there's a lot more behind the closed doors than with
what you see from the outside looking in. But I
just love talking about it. I love the game.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
I'll bet you take out the garbage intensely.
Speaker 8 (30:44):
Oh, I you know what I do. I do like
doing dishes too, like like at night, so I don't
mind cleaning up, but night I do take the garbage
and make sure if it gets done, I walk it
down and take it out to the recyclable train and
the garbage you can, so they got to two different
elements to it. So yeah, I don't mind doing a
little things around the house.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
I really don't great to talk to you. Have fun
this upcoming season, and thanks for joining us.
Speaker 8 (31:10):
Thanks Dan.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
That's Bill Kauner, Hall of Famer NFL Today on CBS
Studio Analysts.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
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Speaker 2 (31:27):
Darren Ravel joining us. He launched Collect back in April,
new media platform dedicated to covering the booming sports memorabilia market,
and it's never boomed like it did this past weekend
where Babe Bruce Jersey from the cold shot at Wrigley Field.
I believe that was his last World Series home run.
(31:49):
Darren Revel joined us. Somebody paid twenty four million dollars
for that jersey.
Speaker 9 (31:54):
You know, Dan, I loved it. Since I've been covering
this for twenty five years, I just love to go
back and see, like the origins, a woman had this
because her husband wanted from Babe ruth in a bet
I mean and then in the late nineties it sold
(32:15):
for one hundred and fifty thousand dollars, and then in
two thousand and five it sold for nine hundred forty
thousand dollars. And then we come to this photo matching,
which is the idea of it matches to a photo
of a picture that day. And so it was always
a nineteen thirty Bay Borute jersey up until the point
(32:36):
where wait a second, the buttons match and it looks
like it's matching from the pregame photo Wrigley Field, Game
three of the nineteen thirty two World Series, and then
they attach it to the called shot, and that's what
allows it to go from nine hundred forty thousand dollars
to twenty four million.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
But it was referred to in an article I read
the Mona Lee of sports Memorabilia. Is there there's no
other memorabilia that is more valued than that, I don't know.
Speaker 9 (33:10):
I think obviously they were on high on this stuff.
Speaker 8 (33:13):
Now.
Speaker 9 (33:13):
I mean, we don't even know if he called the shot,
or if he was pointing at Charlie Rude, or if
he was pointing at the dugout. I don't I don't
think it is. I mean I think there's other things
that you know, you could you could say that it's
not it's not Mona Lisa is like the clear winner.
This is not this is not that clear. I think
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in the moment people are are thinking about it. I
think about I think about, at least in the US,
the Mike Eruzione jersey, you know from Miracle on Ice,
which sold for I believe like eight hundred and fifty
thousand dollars maybe eleven years ago and would sell for
ten million today. I actually asked Mike Rouzione, uh this fall,
(33:56):
if he what he what he thought now that he
if he had held onto it and he knew what
the game news market was doing, and he said, I
got two or three homes for my kids at the time,
and I'm happy about that. But obviously it would have
done a ted xer.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
But I was there when Michael Jordan took off his
shoes after hitting the shot in Utah, the last shot
that he would take as a Chicago bull I.
Speaker 9 (34:24):
Was because you were doing the Sports Center interview after.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Yes, I gotta believe Mike's shoes from the last game
that he was with the Chicago Bulls.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
I don't know if they sold if I think they.
Speaker 9 (34:40):
Sold one shoe from each of the of the of
the finals clinchers signed by Jordan, I think that went
for about eight million dollars.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Because I was there when he took off the shoes
and he autographed those shoes right in front of me,
and I kept thinking, if if you had the pair
of shoes that he was wearing the last shot he
ever took for the Chicago Bulls. That to me, like
Kobe's stuff went kind of crazy with his his locker,
you know, with with some of the.
Speaker 9 (35:12):
Lot now the locker. The locker is something you know,
I always think about, Like I've been on top of
this for a quarter century, and I always think about
things that I don't figure out. Lockers have never had
any value. I mean, they just they just haven't. They're
just you know, and this was not like a fancy locker.
This is just like a piece of wood where you
put a jersey in. It literally was in the dumpster
(35:37):
and a Lakers employee like took it out of the
dumpster and kept it, bought it for whatever he bought
it for, maybe ten you know, he sold it for
what would he sell it for? He sold it for
like two hundred grand and then it sold for two
point eight eight million dollars.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Wild.
Speaker 9 (35:55):
I mean, it's wild with something. I'm sure you've seen
some some merchant I memorabilia over the years, from fifteen
twenty years ago, things happening right before your eyes now
now the value even tickets, I mean, you know, I
collect tickets. I can't believe you know what tickets are
going for. A call shot ticket went for sixty three
(36:20):
thousand over the weekend. And people used to laugh at
all the kids that used to say, hey, I'll give
you a couple of bucks for your ticket. You know, Oh,
that's never coming to fruition, and it did.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
How do you decide what is a smart investment? With
smart you know sports memory?
Speaker 9 (36:35):
It's hard, right, I mean it's really hard. You got
to take some guesses. I'm going to announce something here
of something I bought on Saturday. It isn't in the
mail yet, which is slightly risky, but I pray that
this person sends it to me. I bought the December fourteenth,
nineteen eighty four Bulls Nets ticket. Now, Michael Jordan scored
(37:02):
thirty four points in that game. I guarantee you he
won't remember it, nor anyone in the audience.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
However, he wore the Jordan shoes that day.
Speaker 9 (37:11):
Nope, nope, nope, I already have the Jordan debuts. That
was November fourteenth, nineteen eighty four against Doctor j Okay.
The picture for his nineteen eighty four Star and nineteen
eighty six Fleer rookie cards were taken at that game
by Noorn Trotman, a freelance photographer. So then you put
(37:34):
it on the slab and say, you know, taken at
this game his rookie card. So I took the risk,
you know, and you just there were a couple of
people who knew what it was, which meant it cost
me a lot more than what I wanted. But it
is what it is. So you're you're always you're always
taking guesses. I think you just have to try to
be educated and stay in there, and sometimes things don't
(37:55):
work out, you're gonna lose. I invested fifty thousand dollars
and sealed the vhs is the market never came around
like anything, I'm not going to win all the time.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
We're talking to Darren Ravel, founder of collect He started
that back in April. It's the booming sports memorabilia market
a new media platform.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
Do we know who bought the Babe Ruth Jersey?
Speaker 9 (38:18):
No, I've been trying to find out. I would think
the person would want to come forward usually with these
big sales like Ken Griffin or Jim Orse or you know,
but they have not said yet and it's in the
hands of the auction house now.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
But you have the music memorabilia or sports memorabilia, which
one is a better investment.
Speaker 9 (38:40):
Music right now is still seriously underrated, you know. I
think that that's going to come along sports. All the
eyes are on sports right now. So if you can
get a great piece of music memorabilia, I think, for example,
you know, the Beatles are at the top, but I
still think they're undervalued, which is crazy. But you know,
(39:03):
you have two of the four still alive. Not to
be morbid about it, but you know, I mean, and
they are still number one on Spotify, and people say, oh,
people don't care. Kids don't care about the Beatles anymore.
That's not what the numbers say. So I think music
is definitely undervalued, even the Beatles that is the most coveted.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
I have an autograph guitar from the Eagles.
Speaker 9 (39:28):
Okay, is that was the guitar used at all?
Speaker 2 (39:31):
I don't think so it was us. It was used
by my son to learn how to play guitar. Now
keep in mind they had an Arnold Palmer putter that
they were using. I didn't know they were using. Uh,
you know Wayne Gretzky's skates. I think they were cutting
carrots one night with him. So that's the problem.
Speaker 9 (39:50):
I also, I also love those stories Dan, like when
I when I said to a guy, I said, he said,
isn't it he was at Will Chamberlain's one hundred pointer
And I said, yeah, that's not true.
Speaker 8 (40:02):
Everyone.
Speaker 9 (40:02):
He goes, well, look it's on the cover of the
book and you see him as a little kid, and
his face looks the same. And I said, so why
didn't you get something? He goes, oh, we did. My
friend ran out with the ball and I'm like, okay,
so the ball has not surfaced, he said, I mean
we played with it for seven years. What do you
(40:25):
mean it hasn't surfaced. We saw it every day. Unfortunately,
it bounced into the woods one day or whatever, and
that was it.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
Then you get a new ball.
Speaker 9 (40:34):
That would be worth a million bucks.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Great to connect with you again. Hope you're doing well, Darren,
Thank you, Thanks Dan, good to see me. And that's
Darren Ravelle, founder of collect CLLLCT,
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
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Speaker 3 (00:19):
Let's go.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
H Did that sound that didn't sound That didn't sound
Brady like. I remember being in the end zone of
a playoff game and Brady was running.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
He'd always run out and he'd run to the end.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Zone and he'd go, let's effing go, and he's running
right towards me. And it was kind of weird because
I'm watching him and he's seeing me, and he's yelling
let's effing go, staring right at me, and then he
just ran right past me.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
So I just I always think of that.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
I don't think I could get to that point where
I'm that emotional like Tom was before every game, so
let's go.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Imagine if that's exactly what it sounded like, though, Like
he's running, he's pumping his arm, his helmet shaking, and
he just says, let's go.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
It looks like he's saying it very enthusiastically, but he's
running right towards me. There was a moment when the
Patriots played the Super Bowl and they were going out
for the second half, and Tom I make eye contact
with Brady and he's going on to the field because
I'm I'm making eye contact on purpose because I'm thinking
(01:32):
I'm going to be on the podium with him if
they win this, and so just so we can establish
or reestablish that relationship, I'm doing some prep work there
at halftime. I just remember he walked out of the
locker room and then I was, I don't know, fifteen
feet away, and he walked out and then he looked.
He didn't acknowledge. He just looked over at me, and
I went, Okay, all right, you're going to play that game.
(01:53):
I'll see on the podium maybe. And then of course
we had the Russell Wilson situation, all right, eight seven
to seven three DP show email address DP at Dan
Patrick dot com, Twitter handle at DP show Cutdown Day tomorrow.
In the NFL used to be they kind of trickled
these things out, like two weeks and then one week
and then this would be the final cutdown the week
(02:16):
coming up on Tuesday. College football season a lot of
fun Week zero, no calories, but some people lost more
than just wait. Here is how it sounded with Georgia
Tech saying goodbye to Florida State's undefeated season two York.
Speaker 5 (02:46):
Sets at the end of the same All right, Joe
test the tour bringing it home there.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
I don't know what he's going to sound like in December,
but he was pretty excited there for a week zero.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Oh my lucky charms.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
How many more things?
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:09):
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All right, Seaton poll question for our one is going
(03:30):
to be what.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Uh, well, let's see this one is a hypothetical Okay, okay,
one of these matchups is real? One of them? Well,
we can make up one. Okay, would you rather watch
Week one? Which would you rather? Okay, Ravens Chiefs or
hypothetically two rookie quarterbacks facing each other?
Speaker 2 (03:52):
So if I could watch the Bears and the Commanders,
even though they don't play each other even though they don't, right, Yeah,
but this is like Marcus Mariota Jameis Winston. They did
play opening week. That wasn't a great game. I'd still
opt for Ravens Chiefs, Hey, but I at least thought
(04:16):
about it because the NFL loves rookie quarterbacks. Because if
you said the Patriots, who do the Patriots play there?
They play Cincinnati. Well, now that the fact that Drake
May could be your starting quarterback, I'm like, if Jacobe
Brissette was starting, I'd go.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Maybe not.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
If Sam Howell or Trace McSorley was starting instead of
Jayden Daniels, I'd go probably not. But you have rookies.
We may have four rookies starting. Bow Nix is starting
in Denver. You're gonna have Jayden Daniels, You're gonna have
Caleb Love, and maybe you're gonna have Drake May, Caleb Williams.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Who did I say, Kaylen blow hybrid over the Packer quarterback?
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Yeah, there you go. Bears fans wish that he would
be like Jordan Love. They'd be fine with that. But
you might have four rookie quarterbacks starting, and that makes
those games far more interesting. Now you're going to watch
the Bears. You know, the Bears are nationally televised game
Week two against the Texans. Now that has a lot
to do with the Texans and expectation level. But also
(05:22):
you have Caleb Williams going against you know, c J. Stroud.
That's interesting. Jayden Daniels is a lot of fun. I
just hope that the commanders show him video of RG three,
like what RG three did well and you know where
he got himself in trouble where he ran and took
(05:42):
on defenders, because that's the only thing that's going to
literally hurt him figuratively hurt him is getting out of
the pocket and running because he is very slight.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
But he is a whole lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
And now I'm not to the point where Chris Collinsworth
was last night where he was kind of frothing at
the mouth over Jayden d Well even Drake May. Drake
May threw some passes where I go, I don't know
if those are great passes.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
I think they were great catches, but.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
You know that back shoulder it felt like every pass
was behind a receiver and then the receiver would get smashed,
and I go, I don't know if that's my design.
If I'm a receiver, after like the second or third one,
I'm like, dude, I bet you lead me instead of
me getting you know, whacked every time.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Yeah, Paul, it's funny.
Speaker 6 (06:30):
You and Seaton came in here today and said, Drake
may Man, he's got some high footballs. He's got some
behind the back passes. I only saw one clip because
I didn't see the game. I saw the highlight.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
He rolled left through right.
Speaker 6 (06:41):
Across his body at the a whole, and just because of
that clip, I thought he had a great night.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
That's all it takes.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
You could have one drive and all of a sudden,
Russell Wilson comes out his game and you're like, all right,
here we go.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
All right, Russ.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Here's Mike tomlin on waiting this week to name his starter.
Speaker 7 (06:58):
We'll make a decision at the end of our work week.
This upcoming week, we got three days of Stellers versus
Steelers work, and why.
Speaker 8 (07:05):
Not do it?
Speaker 7 (07:05):
Then it kind of, you know, minimizes the Steelers versus
Stellers work. When we started making decisions prior to the
completion of that, We've got ample time to put pare
for Atlanta and make whatever decisions or announcements regarding divisional
labor or pecking orders and so forth, and so we'll
do it at the end of the work week.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Do they need to announce Why would you announce? You
have to announce the injuries. You don't have to announce
who your starting quarterback is, at least I don't think
you do. Why would you do it in the first place?
If it's a foregone conclusion.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
I'm going to guess the Steelers know who the starting
quarterback's going to be. And I'll ask Bill Kauer about this.
It feels like it's Russell Wilson. Now do I think
this was a true Hey, this is a competition that's open. No,
I do not, because I thought Justin Fields did some
fun things, interesting things. Now you may not want to
live and die by that. I get that. But here's
(08:00):
the problem I've seen so far is is that Steeler
offense going to be any better with a new offensive coordinator?
And are you going to be you know, the offensive line?
Bill Belichick pointed that out. That's the issue. And it
feels like I need somebody who might be able to
make a player too, and that would be Justin Fields.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Is he a better quarterback?
Speaker 8 (08:22):
No?
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Is he a better playmaker? Yes? And you might need
that playmaker.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
You may need to have that risk and reward with
justin fields because you're going to have to generate some
offense and you're in the most competitive division in football.
You can't afford to get behind in a game. You
can't afford to get behind as far as wins in
that division. And Pittsburgh's got a tough road here because
(08:49):
I haven't seen you know, the defense is good.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
We know that they have playmakers there, certainly with TJ. Watt.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
I just don't know if they have playmakers on offense.
You have a good offensive coordinator, and Bill Belichick when
he was on McAfee was singing the praises of Arthur Smith.
So I'm certainly going to trust what Bill has to say.
You can be a great offensive coordinator. You need to
have an offense that you can coordinate. That certainly would help.
Phone calls always welcome on Monday, best and worst of
(09:17):
the weekend. Operator Tyler is sitting by to take your
phone calls. So college football, that was fun, some really
interesting games there, and the NFL with the final weekend
of the preseason so we'll talk to Bill Kauer about that.
Some baseball, the good and the bad. Aaron Judge now
is on a pace to hit sixty three home runs
(09:38):
and the bad. The White Sox are now thirty one
and one hundred. I think it was three years ago
they won ninety three games. It's really hard to be
that bad. Second fastest team in the modern era to
reach one hundred losses the nineteen sixteen Phillies. That's not
(10:00):
even the modern era. Nineteen sixteen Phillies were twenty nine
one hundred and one.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Oh tie.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Yeah, they got a tie, or they would have twenty
nine one hundred and one, So they got to one
hundred losses faster.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Yes, Pauline, what year was that record from nineteen sixteen.
Speaker 6 (10:20):
I'm not making a joker. I did not know it
was possible to have a tie in baseball. In the
history of baseball, I've never seen a tie on a
team's record slate.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Well, maybe we could do a deep dive on how
they came up with that tie. You would think that
they would resume the game and eventually get around to, Hey,
we're gonna we're gonna finish this game. By the way,
the Red Sox announced that Danny Jansen will Replacerhyese McGuire
as the catcher in the continuation of the Red Sox
(10:49):
suspended game today against the Blue Jays. So he is
the first player in baseball history to appear for both
teams in the same game.
Speaker 7 (10:59):
He was.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Stead of a day, start of a day, start of
a day.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
Start out a day.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
This is the start of the day stat of the Day,
brought to you by Pandi America, the official trading cards
to the program. So Danny Jansen was batting with an
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So he's going to be the catcher for his own
it bat, but he's going to be the catcher for
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the Red Sox. Somebody else with the Blue Jays is
going to take I mean, how bizarre is that? First
time that's ever happened in baseball history. All right, uh,
pull question seating anything else that you're thinking first hour
in this program.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Yeah, we could throw up there. Is it harder to
win one hundred games or lose one hundred games?
Speaker 3 (11:48):
As that is not easy to do?
Speaker 4 (11:50):
Yeah, we also have up there or we're about to
put up there. Would you rather retire a year earlier,
a year late.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Okay, I'm gonna save that one. By the way, I'm
looking at Week two. You got Russell Wilson at bo
Nicks at Denver, So Russ has to be your starting
quarterback at least for the first couple of weeks, right,
I mean, we got to keep with the story. This
is about content. These are TV shows. Cincinnati will be
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at Kansas City, Chicago will be at Houston. Chicago Houston
is Sunday Night on NBC Week two.
Speaker 9 (12:26):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
But Pittsburgh at Denver, and that's going to be the
big game for CBS. That's a four to twenty five
game on CBS on Sunday. Cincinnati and Kansas City that'll
be a four to twenty five game on CBS as well.
So just some of the matchups there as we get ready.
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No word yet on I guess the Cowboys and Cede
Lamm are a million dollars apart. But I don't know
what that means because Jerry didn't have anything to say after,
you know, the final game. He didn't want to didn't
have any updates. I shouldn't say he didn't want to talk.
He had no updates on CD LAMB, but like, at
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what point, let's say they're eight hundred thousand or six
fifty apart, do you then go all okay, one side
caves in there. I just I don't know the risk
and the reward for the Cowboys in CD Lamb with this,
you got to you have to be ready to go football,
ready to go, and Jerry knows this. To get Cede
(13:27):
Lamb ready to go, ready to play. Just feels like
there's always something hanging over the Cowboys, and you certainly
have that with your quarterback and your coach already, so
you've you're adding, not subtracting. That always makes me nervous,
especially with a team like the Dallas Cowboys.
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Speaker 2 (14:32):
Yee, here comes the Hall of Fame coach Bill Kawer
NFL today on CBS Studio Analyst. We were talking about
philosophy on starting a rookie quarterback. You had Ben Roethlisberger,
but he didn't start week one, Is that correct?
Speaker 8 (14:52):
That's correct, Dan, Good to see you again. But yeah, no,
he did not start week one. There. In fact, the
whole idea when we drafted him, as we had Tommy
Maddox we Charlie Batch, is to be able to bring
them along slowly, which we did in training camp. Give
him you know, we worked mostly what he worked on
was the no huddle because we usually thought we'd put
him into the game at the end of a game
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or at the end of a half and just to
give him a chance to kind of go out there
and do his things. So he did not start Week one.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
But that difference of just absorbing a game on the
sidelines as opposed to, you know, learning on the job.
How big of a jump is that for these quarterbacks.
Speaker 8 (15:29):
I think it's very big, and I think you know
a lot of times. To me, the approach that you
take is with the young guys. When you start the
season as a starter, there's not just the element of
the unknown, because the game is so much faster, so
much more complex, so much more involved when the regular
season starts as opposed to a preseason, So you've got
to make sure there's not a false sense of confidence
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you have going in and then the expectation you have
of not letting down your teammates. So I think ideally
you put a situation. I mean, how it played out
for Ben was great. He didn't have expectation going in.
He was thrust it into the job when Tommy Madix
got hurt, so you really have time to think about it.
So it almost alleviated that type of pressure. I'm the
second guy. I'm gonna come in here and just kind
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of do my thing. And obviously from that time on
he won his first fifteen games because we kind of
built things around him. We had a defense, we had
a running game, and as he became more comfortable, we
allowed him to do a lot more things from a
passing standpoint.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Why is Mike Tomlin waiting?
Speaker 8 (16:26):
The name is starter, because there's two different styles of quarterback.
Why give someone a little extra time to prepare. I
think you're preparing for Russell Wilson. There's a there's you
can see that you know he's gonna stay in the pocket.
He's not looking to run, he's looking to throw down
the field. Justin Field is an element in a running game.
He's another guy that he's an option. So I think
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you know, it's just just doing it from a strategical standpoint.
And obviously you're going down with Arthur Smith his first
game at Atlanta where he just came from. And so
I think Russell will be the starter, and I think
will be a package of play that you'll have for
Justin Fields and you see how that evolves to the
course of the season. So I think I think it's
a very natural and good position for them to be
in right now to evaluate both.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Yeah, it takes me back to Cordell Stewart. Who was
it Mike tom Zach I think, And so you had
sort of the older quarterback and then you had the
younger quarterback who was more athletic. Now granted Tom Zach
and Russell Wilson are different talent wise, but trying to incorporate.
(17:30):
Can you see Mike trying to incorporate justin fields sort
of similarly, Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 8 (17:37):
I mean, he'll keep them involved and I think again
making taking the pressure of not having to start. Russell's
been there. There's a package you're going to want to do.
It's a play actually be a big part of what
they do, and that plays into what Russell does best.
So I think the running game is going to be
the forefront. They've got to get the offensive line straightened out.
But they've got a lot of pieces up there, and
certainly when Fontaneau got hurt, the number one pick this
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year brought it Jones to go to the right side.
They see him on the left side. But now you
have Zack Frazier, and I think was a great pick
for them in the second round as a starting center.
So there's a lot of good places pieces in place,
but it takes time for those guys to kind of
come together, but I think he's going to keep them
both in play because justin Fields is just too big
of a weapon. He gives you the big plays that
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maybe you're not going to get in the passing game,
but in the running game, he gives you another thing
that they have to defend.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
I'm talking to Bill Cower, the Hall of Fame coach
NFL today on CBS studio analyst. One of your fellow
studio analysts, JJ Watt. You said showed up, looked like
he's in playing shape. I don't know if JJ appreciated
what you said, but can you see a team reaching
out to JJ Watt and tempting him to come out
of retirement.
Speaker 8 (18:45):
Yeah, I think it's gonna have to be the right situation.
I think the only place that would ever be the
case probably could be the Houston Texans or even maybe
the Pittsburgh Steelers that they came down to it and
it have to be what his role would be. But
I think, yeah, I jokingly say that because you look
at him right now, he has traded. He looks like
he's actually at the same way he was when he played.
There's not much body fat on that so I'm just like, Okay,
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at some point are you going to come and bring down?
But are you ready to play again? So, but JJ's
got a lot of things going on. He's such a
talented man. It came off the field, and I'm looking
forward to working with him at CBS this fall.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Yeah, he talked about being tempted of coming back and
trying to play for Green Bay but with his brother.
I mean, it'd be kind of cool, but I don't
mean you do.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
The Texans still own his rights though.
Speaker 8 (19:34):
Well, I think he can go anywhere he wants right
now because he's been out of the game for a
couple of years now or two years, so he's he
I think I think his contract has done so he
would have to do that. He could sign anywhere, but
I think the Texans is worse hearts at and obviously
with his brother in Pittsburgh. I would think those are
the only two places in my opinion.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
When you watch Patrick Mahomes, if you're going to have
a I guess a defensive plan, what would you do like?
Speaker 3 (19:58):
What do you take you like?
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Do you subscribe to what Belichick says let me take
away your best weapon?
Speaker 8 (20:05):
Yeah, I mean I think certainly Travis Kelcey is a
go to for him, and I think that's the guy.
And he's got some other people. You know certainly that
they picked up the rookie receiver. But for me, Patrick Mahomes,
you have to keep him in the pocket and just
you know, and take your chances there, because when he
gets out of the pocket, his vision, his ability to improvise,
his ability to create is something that you can't defend
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because the plague gets extended longer, and if longer the
play gets extended, the more heats vision opens up, and
he's got the accuracy and the ability to make all
types of different throws. So to me, making him stay
in the pocket, taking away Travis Kelsey, I start right
there and then live with whatever goes from that.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Yeah, but how do you keep him in the pocket.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
You know, it sounds good, but then the game happens
and then all of a sudden he's out out of
the pocket.
Speaker 8 (20:55):
You know. I think Louis and Rumo had a pretty
good plan against and the Cincinnati Mangles when they played
against them in the championship game. And you have to
mix things up against someone like Patrick Mahomes. You can't
go in there and show them the same thing in
the first quarter and the fourth court that you're showing
them in the first quarter. So to me, it's about
mixing up the looks. It's about bringing three man pressures,
about bringing five man pressures, but again making sure that
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I've got containment on both those edges so that you
know he's gonna try to step up as well. But
I would run him more in the pocket executing a
passing game than when he gets outside the pocket.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Would you rather face, Well, who would you rather not face?
Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers or Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 8 (21:36):
Oh that's a great choice. I brought it up. Face
any of those three.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
I mean, but you got to pick one. You gotta go, okay,
I Well.
Speaker 8 (21:45):
I mean, I think I think the one thing that
you look at with Patrick is the improvisation. I mean,
those are things it's hard to prepare for. Like you
just talked about, how would you stop keep them in
the pocket? Easier said than done, because they do a
great job with that. With all the different things that
they do with andy Re's offense, just spread you out.
So they try to spread out the coverage and open
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up some of the ways because you can't fix You
can't fill every winge when you start having the things
spread out. Certainly, Tom Brady's going to pick you apart
by reading you. Aaron Rodgers can make all the throws,
still has the mobility. So there's they all have three
elements to them. But they're all just special players. And
so but I say, right now, just because the athleticism
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that Patrick Mahomes presents, he'd be the least. He'd be
the one person that would fear me the most.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
How do you sum up the Dallas Cowboys situation here
with the coach and his last year quarterback and his
last year star receiver is holding out Michael Parsons looking
for a new deal a little early. So how do
you handicap what to expect out of the Cowboys.
Speaker 8 (22:49):
There's a sense of urgency, for sure. I think everybody's
playing for contracts. Some people are playing for jobs. It's
a unique situation down there because, like you said, you
know it's probably hard for you know, you look at
Dak Dak, I mean, why is he going to sign
an extension? You don't even know who the coach is
going to be next year because the coach is the
last year of his contracts. So you know, there's there's
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a little bit of flux down there, turmoil if you
want to use theatrics. But isn't that always kind of
the Dallas Cowboys. They may they kind of thrive in
that kind of atmosphere. So it's one of those things
that right now, a lot's going to happen over the
next couple of weeks. Uh. You know, I think City
Land will get in there. I think Mike is going
to be their Week one and I think what you'll
have is a quarterback and the head coach that are
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kind of playing for their both both their careers, and
I you know, in a weird way, probably not the
worst thing in the world. But you know, the one
thing that happens with situations like that is you get
into adversity. Do you come together or do splinter apart?
And that's the thing that happens. You know, if he
comes out early, the season starts out, you know, a
little question more early in the season, how do they
handle adversity?
Speaker 3 (23:53):
Did you ever get involved in a salary dispute.
Speaker 8 (23:57):
With the uh? You know what when the players had it?
You know, all I try to do is I know
I never negotiated on behalf of anybody. You know, I
always if I did anything, I understood where the player
was at and you know, understood what they're looking for.
And at times you know you know that this is
where we are with where you know, how we approach
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things philosophically, and sometimes that's not going to mess with
what you want. And I always try to say, like,
put a price of enjoying where you go to work
to put a monetary value on that. And if that
doesn't meet what if you can't meet that, bridget together
with that, then play it out and I wish you
nothing but the best. So I mean I think again,
as a coach, you want to try to seize every
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year because every year is different, and sometimes if it's
the last year of a contract or a player, I
want to make sure that I'm doing that. I'm not
looking to develop my team for next year. I'm looking
to take advantage of this year and get the most
I can because that's that's only being fair to the
players who are going on a year to year basis. The
veterans are a year So I'm not trying to develop
a younger team. Okay, well we'll be good two or
three years. Now. Every year to me is an opportunity
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to make the playoffs and establish a winning atmosphere within
your culture, within your your building.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
What's the coolest thing in your office.
Speaker 8 (25:12):
The coolest thing in my office was actually the very
first signing bonus I got. I actually got to check
signing bonus was I was a rookie. I was I
was a free agent with the Cleveland Browns because I
got cut the year before, and so I signed for
one thousand dollars signing bows and I still have the
check when they took out the taxes for six hundred
(25:32):
and eighty two dollars. So every time people come in
and just talked about guaranteed money and what they had,
so I used to walk over to my desk and
just say, listen, I got to show you this, this
signing bonus of mine because it's it just tells you
that you're here because you love the game. Those things
will take care of themselves. But this is what I
played for because I was a backup player in my
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you know, so I love the game. So I kept
that check there at times when just to put things
in this proper perspective.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
When's the last time you had a real itch to coach.
Speaker 8 (26:03):
You know what, Dan, I know what it entails. I
love talking to coaches even today and talking about things
that I see from the outside. I know on the inside,
it's not everything you see on the outside. There's a
lot of other things that take place. But you know,
clock management, I see that at times, you know, being
able to play to your strengths and not to try
(26:24):
to develop something that you're not understand who your identity
is as a football team. And I kind of like
what I see. I mean, I love the fact that
we've got this passing link with This past year, we
had eight new head coaches. Five of them were defensive coordinators.
So now all of a sudden, the defense is becoming
a little bit of that. Why because all of a sudden,
you saw the Kansas City Chiefs reached the basement of
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where they were a year ago on Christmas Day, frustration
on the sidelines. What got them back into the playoff
hunt was all sudden. This guy named Isaiah Picecko gave
a degree of toughness on offense, a defense became stifling,
and they went into the playoffs underdogs and kind of
use that chip on their shoulder. No one believes in us,
you know, they don't. They don't respect us. So you know,
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it still goes a long way having balance on your team.
Even as great as Patrick mahonomes is. It was the
running game with Isaiah, but Checko was a defense that
led also to that championship. Special player, no question. And
then you see five of the eight defensive coordinators and
the sixth to one was Jim Harball. We know what
Jim Harbor is going to do. He's going to run
the football. You know. He brings in Greg Roman from Baltimore,
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a couple of backs from Baltimore, and take Justin Herbert
and say, okay, I know you're a great quarterback, but
we're going to give you a balance running attack as well.
So the NFL is cyclical. I really believe that we
go through periods and trends of wanting to throw the
ball and be this really open team, but really to
have sustained success, it goes back to the same thing. Yes,
a great quarterback is your lawyer's looking for that, but
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you better have a balanced football team that can throw it,
that can run it, that can play defense. They have
a good kicking game.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
You avoided the question there coach Len's LEI we had
a true itch to come back, or somebody reached down
to you to coach.
Speaker 8 (28:04):
Oh, I've spent years. I mean it's been a few years.
I mean I just don't have the inches to make
that kind of demand, the time demand, because I know
what it is. I mean it's a you know, I
love coaching on Sundays, but I also love the off season, Dan,
I mean, I love when the season's over to be
able to travel. I don't get involved with pre agency.
I watched the draft. I don't study the draft. I
see the OTAs, but I see training camp and I
(28:27):
get that, Okay, this is awesome. But get to talk
to the coaches on Monday. But I've said this before.
I'm going to my eighteenth year at CBS. I said,
I coach every team every Sunday, and I haven't lost
a game in eighteen years, so I feel really good
the rest of the week. So I have not gone
that inch in a few years.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Well, sometimes you need to have your wife remind you.
Speaker 8 (28:46):
You know.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
That's it's like.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
No, no, no, no, no, no, remember we're not doing this.
I know, I know, I know, no, Bill, We're not
doing this right.
Speaker 8 (28:55):
Well, my wife, who's a musician, she was never like
I met her after I got out of it, and
she's always been saying, if you want to do it,
you can do it. And I would say, but that I
would not be spending the same time that we're having
this conversation. I would not be with you right now.
So you know, there's always been great places on the beach,
you know, in the city and a restaurant. We wouldn't
be here right now. So I would be in that
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building trying to change a culture, committed to making sure
that we win, and trying to build a championship team.
So I said, but and that's that's the commitment that
coaches have to make. That's the commitment that wives have
to make, which is very very much a sacrificial situation,
a position that you have. You're the mother of your father,
you run the household. You're trying to keep things stable,
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you know, keep people from from the media, overreacting to
every loss, overreacting to wins. So it's it's a lifestyle.
You're living in a bubble. And I loved it for
the period of time I did it, but no interest
in going back.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
But when you're taking out the garbage, you know, just
you know, does it kind of hit you like I'm
taking out the garbage like I should be prepping for
you know, opening week.
Speaker 8 (30:03):
And and I am right now I'm talking to you.
We got two weeks and you get to talk about
all these teams and I think everything that's doing. So
I have the platform, which is why I really do
love what I do on Sundays to be able to
talk about it from a strategical standpoint, from a just
a tactical standpoint, from just an organizational cultural standpoint of
trying to build something that's sustainable over a long period
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of time. And again, you know, I try it. I
have contacts throughout the league with people and talk with
them about what I see. And again I know that
there's a lot more behind the closed doors than with
what you see from the outside looking in. But I
just love talking about it. I love the game.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
I'll bet you take out the garbage intensely.
Speaker 8 (30:44):
Oh, I you know what I do. I do like
doing dishes too, like like at night, so I don't
mind cleaning up, but night I do take the garbage
and make sure if it gets done, I walk it
down and take it out to the recyclable train and
the garbage you can, so they got to two different
elements to it. So yeah, I don't mind doing a
little things around the house.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
I really don't great to talk to you. Have fun
this upcoming season, and thanks for joining us.
Speaker 8 (31:10):
Thanks Dan.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
That's Bill Kauner, Hall of Famer NFL Today on CBS
Studio Analysts.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
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Speaker 2 (31:27):
Darren Ravel joining us. He launched Collect back in April,
new media platform dedicated to covering the booming sports memorabilia market,
and it's never boomed like it did this past weekend
where Babe Bruce Jersey from the cold shot at Wrigley Field.
I believe that was his last World Series home run.
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Darren Revel joined us. Somebody paid twenty four million dollars
for that jersey.
Speaker 9 (31:54):
You know, Dan, I loved it. Since I've been covering
this for twenty five years, I just love to go
back and see, like the origins, a woman had this
because her husband wanted from Babe ruth in a bet
I mean and then in the late nineties it sold
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for one hundred and fifty thousand dollars, and then in
two thousand and five it sold for nine hundred forty
thousand dollars. And then we come to this photo matching,
which is the idea of it matches to a photo
of a picture that day. And so it was always
a nineteen thirty Bay Borute jersey up until the point
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where wait a second, the buttons match and it looks
like it's matching from the pregame photo Wrigley Field, Game
three of the nineteen thirty two World Series, and then
they attach it to the called shot, and that's what
allows it to go from nine hundred forty thousand dollars
to twenty four million.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
But it was referred to in an article I read
the Mona Lee of sports Memorabilia. Is there there's no
other memorabilia that is more valued than that, I don't know.
Speaker 9 (33:10):
I think obviously they were on high on this stuff.
Speaker 8 (33:13):
Now.
Speaker 9 (33:13):
I mean, we don't even know if he called the shot,
or if he was pointing at Charlie Rude, or if
he was pointing at the dugout. I don't I don't
think it is. I mean I think there's other things
that you know, you could you could say that it's
not it's not Mona Lisa is like the clear winner.
This is not this is not that clear. I think
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in the moment people are are thinking about it. I
think about I think about, at least in the US,
the Mike Eruzione jersey, you know from Miracle on Ice,
which sold for I believe like eight hundred and fifty
thousand dollars maybe eleven years ago and would sell for
ten million today. I actually asked Mike Rouzione, uh this fall,
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if he what he what he thought now that he
if he had held onto it and he knew what
the game news market was doing, and he said, I
got two or three homes for my kids at the time,
and I'm happy about that. But obviously it would have
done a ted xer.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
But I was there when Michael Jordan took off his
shoes after hitting the shot in Utah, the last shot
that he would take as a Chicago bull I.
Speaker 9 (34:24):
Was because you were doing the Sports Center interview after.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Yes, I gotta believe Mike's shoes from the last game
that he was with the Chicago Bulls.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
I don't know if they sold if I think they.
Speaker 9 (34:40):
Sold one shoe from each of the of the of
the finals clinchers signed by Jordan, I think that went
for about eight million dollars.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Because I was there when he took off the shoes
and he autographed those shoes right in front of me,
and I kept thinking, if if you had the pair
of shoes that he was wearing the last shot he
ever took for the Chicago Bulls. That to me, like
Kobe's stuff went kind of crazy with his his locker,
you know, with with some of the.
Speaker 9 (35:12):
Lot now the locker. The locker is something you know,
I always think about, Like I've been on top of
this for a quarter century, and I always think about
things that I don't figure out. Lockers have never had
any value. I mean, they just they just haven't. They're
just you know, and this was not like a fancy locker.
This is just like a piece of wood where you
put a jersey in. It literally was in the dumpster
(35:37):
and a Lakers employee like took it out of the
dumpster and kept it, bought it for whatever he bought
it for, maybe ten you know, he sold it for
what would he sell it for? He sold it for
like two hundred grand and then it sold for two
point eight eight million dollars.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Wild.
Speaker 9 (35:55):
I mean, it's wild with something. I'm sure you've seen
some some merchant I memorabilia over the years, from fifteen
twenty years ago, things happening right before your eyes now
now the value even tickets, I mean, you know, I
collect tickets. I can't believe you know what tickets are
going for. A call shot ticket went for sixty three
(36:20):
thousand over the weekend. And people used to laugh at
all the kids that used to say, hey, I'll give
you a couple of bucks for your ticket. You know, Oh,
that's never coming to fruition, and it did.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
How do you decide what is a smart investment? With
smart you know sports memory?
Speaker 9 (36:35):
It's hard, right, I mean it's really hard. You got
to take some guesses. I'm going to announce something here
of something I bought on Saturday. It isn't in the
mail yet, which is slightly risky, but I pray that
this person sends it to me. I bought the December fourteenth,
nineteen eighty four Bulls Nets ticket. Now, Michael Jordan scored
(37:02):
thirty four points in that game. I guarantee you he
won't remember it, nor anyone in the audience.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
However, he wore the Jordan shoes that day.
Speaker 9 (37:11):
Nope, nope, nope, I already have the Jordan debuts. That
was November fourteenth, nineteen eighty four against Doctor j Okay.
The picture for his nineteen eighty four Star and nineteen
eighty six Fleer rookie cards were taken at that game
by Noorn Trotman, a freelance photographer. So then you put
(37:34):
it on the slab and say, you know, taken at
this game his rookie card. So I took the risk,
you know, and you just there were a couple of
people who knew what it was, which meant it cost
me a lot more than what I wanted. But it
is what it is. So you're you're always you're always
taking guesses. I think you just have to try to
be educated and stay in there, and sometimes things don't
(37:55):
work out, you're gonna lose. I invested fifty thousand dollars
and sealed the vhs is the market never came around
like anything, I'm not going to win all the time.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
We're talking to Darren Ravel, founder of collect He started
that back in April. It's the booming sports memorabilia market
a new media platform.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
Do we know who bought the Babe Ruth Jersey?
Speaker 9 (38:18):
No, I've been trying to find out. I would think
the person would want to come forward usually with these
big sales like Ken Griffin or Jim Orse or you know,
but they have not said yet and it's in the
hands of the auction house now.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
But you have the music memorabilia or sports memorabilia, which
one is a better investment.
Speaker 9 (38:40):
Music right now is still seriously underrated, you know. I
think that that's going to come along sports. All the
eyes are on sports right now. So if you can
get a great piece of music memorabilia, I think, for example,
you know, the Beatles are at the top, but I
still think they're undervalued, which is crazy. But you know,
(39:03):
you have two of the four still alive. Not to
be morbid about it, but you know, I mean, and
they are still number one on Spotify, and people say, oh,
people don't care. Kids don't care about the Beatles anymore.
That's not what the numbers say. So I think music
is definitely undervalued, even the Beatles that is the most coveted.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
I have an autograph guitar from the Eagles.
Speaker 9 (39:28):
Okay, is that was the guitar used at all?
Speaker 2 (39:31):
I don't think so it was us. It was used
by my son to learn how to play guitar. Now
keep in mind they had an Arnold Palmer putter that
they were using. I didn't know they were using. Uh,
you know Wayne Gretzky's skates. I think they were cutting
carrots one night with him. So that's the problem.
Speaker 9 (39:50):
I also, I also love those stories Dan, like when
I when I said to a guy, I said, he said,
isn't it he was at Will Chamberlain's one hundred pointer
And I said, yeah, that's not true.
Speaker 8 (40:02):
Everyone.
Speaker 9 (40:02):
He goes, well, look it's on the cover of the
book and you see him as a little kid, and
his face looks the same. And I said, so why
didn't you get something? He goes, oh, we did. My
friend ran out with the ball and I'm like, okay,
so the ball has not surfaced, he said, I mean
we played with it for seven years. What do you
(40:25):
mean it hasn't surfaced. We saw it every day. Unfortunately,
it bounced into the woods one day or whatever, and
that was it.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
Then you get a new ball.
Speaker 9 (40:34):
That would be worth a million bucks.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Great to connect with you again. Hope you're doing well, Darren,
Thank you, Thanks Dan, good to see me. And that's
Darren Ravelle, founder of collect CLLLCT,
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