September 18, 2024 • 41 mins
Dan talks to NFL Network's Steve Smith Sr. about the Panthers' decision to bench QB Bryce Young. The guys revisit the infamous Qualcomm interview with Matt Harvey. And Falcons QB Kirk Cousins discusses Monday Night's huge comeback win against the Eagles.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Before we get to our next guest, he is one
of four wide receivers in the last fifty years to
have the Triple Crown. Now that's he did it in
two thousand and five. That means he led the NFL
in catches, yards and touchdowns. So before we get to
Steve Smith Senior, can you name the other ones? I'm
(00:25):
gonna throw out? So there's four other guys who have
won the Triple Crown of receiving in the last fifty years.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
There's four, including Steve Smith.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Oh okay, so ife to name three? Correct? So if
I say Randy Moss, he did not. If I say
Lance Allworth.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Yes, nineteen sixty six, so that's beyond the scope. Oh okay,
the first one was it in our list? Here is
nineteen ninety cal uh uh, Jerry Rice. Jerry Rice's okay,
all right, I've heard of him. The other one was
within the past four years, Tyreek Hill, Cooper Cup, Cooper Cup.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Oh, yeah, that's right. We did mention that.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
And then the other one. Here's the big hint. This
guy would be in the Hall of Fame except for
a neck injury. Sterling, Shark Sterling, Sharpest correct Sling.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Sure make way for Steve Smith's senior NFL network analysts.
That's a pretty good company there, Steve, What do you
remember about that two thousand and five season?
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Well, well, first, good morning. Uh, it was a long
time ago. I think I had hair back then, so
that's that's one of the biggest things I remember.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
But you helped Cam. That was Cam's rookie year.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Wasn't, no, sir, No, Cam was I think in middle
school at that time.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Okay, no, this was Jake de Low. Oh okay, but
you know, you look at that, why haven't we had
more receivers win the triple crown.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
I mean, it's a tough it's a tough deal to do.
To leak in all the categories, it's very rare. I'm
not gonna sit here into my own horn. But you know,
everything has to lie. You got to have the right
combination of teams playing the right opponents. Offense got to
be flowing, good pass game, good run game. You know,
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kind of just structurally things have to fall in place.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
I had a couple of topics to get to. Two
of going on the ir as opposed to concussion protocol.
What does that mean to you? When you see him
go on the IR So he's gone for at least
four weeks.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
It gives an opportunity where you could take your time
and figure out what you need to do, sort out
some kind of plan. Also like the fact that on
those four weeks it's not like he has to play,
so that means he gets to take his time and
talk to his doctors. You know, going through decision making
like this, it's an emotional roller coaster. There's going to
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be some highs, are going to be most likely more lows,
and a lot of conversations that he needs to have
and wrestle with and grieve through and process. And I
believe it at least gives him the starting point not
to be pressured in making any kind of decision tomorrow,
because the league is about decisions and doing things sometimes
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based off perspective, not based off reality. Sooner than later.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Yeah, it just concerned me that it was four weeks
as opposed to week by week that And I don't
know if you agree if you get a concussion you're
more susceptible to getting another concussion.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
I think everybody's different. I've played with some guys who's
had multiple concussions. I played with guys who like for myself,
I've only had one concussion in my career. However, it
took me about three weeks to really just come out
of it. It was a pretty bad a concussion. It
was an accident. I didn't get a concussion tackled. I
(04:03):
got a concussion. Actually, I was getting up and someone
I didn't know and someone at the back of my head.
I hit their knee. Like they didn't hit me. I
hit them obviously because I don't really have even though
my kids believe it, I don't have eyes behind the
back of my head. And I hit it right there
in the sweet spot, and they knew something was wrong
(04:25):
because I was in a huddle. We said break and
they said. Everybody broke out of the huddle, but me,
I was still there. So you know, everybody's different. So,
I mean, I played sixteen years one concussion. There's guys
who've played less than that and had multiple concussions. You know,
everybody's built differently. So to be able to say that
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we know how everyone handles it, and all of these
armchair doctors who have their personal opinion, I think, you know,
I know where in this age where everybody's opinion matters.
So I'm throwing mine out there, and I think we
all should sit back and allow to it to make
his own decision on his career and allow him to
(05:08):
deal with what he wants to deal with, versus us
giving our opinion on something that unfortunately, Let's be honest,
if you're not our circus, not our monkey, so why
do we have to whilere we given our input on
something that really we don't have a hand head.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
We're talking to Steve Smith, Senior, former NFL Pro Bowl
wide receiver working for the NFL Network. If you were
a player on the Carolina Panthers and they made the
decision to bench Bryce Young, how would you react?
Speaker 4 (05:37):
I mean, he's got a roll with the next guy.
People don't want to hear that, but that's how it is.
If Bryce got hurt, we'll be saying the same thing.
Who's the next guy up? Next man up? Is there?
For whatever reason, we feel like that this situation is
now all of a sudden that Bryce is done. I'm
hearing everybody talk about he should be done. Trade him.
(05:58):
I think the fact that they sat him down, I
think that's a good thing. And the reason why I
believe that's a good thing is because this if you
see a young man sitting there and you throw him
in a swimming pool and you see he's drowning a
little bit, you don't remove him from the swimming pool
and throw him in the ocean and say, okay, with
the bigger tides. He should be okay. Because he was
(06:19):
drafted first overall, he should he should be fine, or hey,
get rid of him. How about do what they're doing
is allow him to sit back, evaluate and then maybe
train them and gradually put them back in there when
he can also learn the game. He was a great
processor in college. That's what got him drafted. That doesn't
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mean what you did in college you're gonna do that
in the NFL, because that's the that's the level up
that's called advancing. That's why it's professionals and amateurs or collegiate.
I know NIL makes people believe they're professionals, but guess what,
there are eighty wide receivers next years and that are
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trying to come out. In next year's draft, there were
I believe twenty seven wide receivers drafted. I'm no mathematician,
but guess what, not, everybody's gonna make it.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
I'm fine with them benching him, and even using the
word benching sounds rough. I think they're just replacing him,
putting Andy Dilton in there, and it's hard for him.
You get into bad habits and it feels like he's
a little you know, he wants to make a quick decision.
He doesn't let a play kind of unfold. I mean,
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there's a there's a lot of bad things that can happen,
and I think sitting down for a little bit, maybe
he doesn't play for them, But I would give I
hope he gets another chance this season.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
I agree, I think he's I don't know if given
him another chance this season only because if Andy Dalton
does well and you've brought him in to help him,
what if having a successful season or seeing someone else
do it not. Ever, some people learn differently visual aids,
some people learn by example, some people learn by watching
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other people do it. So sitting him down and letting
him ride out the season and learning and now he
doesn't have the pressure on him, maybe he'll learn some things,
maybe he'll see the game from a different perspective, and
maybe you won't. But I'm pretty sure it will because
because when you think about it, this is probably the
first time he's looked at the game from this position,
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which is the sideline with no injury. That's not a
bad thing. Adversity is about dealing with dealing with some
things that you don't see. And that's what makes football
players athletes so much. So much we're intriguing because we
can take a negative and tournament turn it into a positive.
If we're going on a bench and say he's he
(09:02):
bryce young, can never recover. Does that mean some of
these coaches who have been given a head coaching job
maybe too early or or a position too early in
their career, does that mean that they never should get
a job there? You know this answer, No, that doesn't happen,
So why does it happen with players? But yet we
(09:23):
could give a guy a job in a in the
NFL or NBA or too early, be terrible, god.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
Awful, and then a couple of months later he's at
another place worse, and then it takes them three or
four times to realize maybe he's just a coordinator, not
a head coach.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
That's just me.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Would you stick with justin fields in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Well, yeah, I don't know why that. Yes, I would
stick with Justin Fields. He's he's winning games for you.
Why change it because you have a guy that you
brought in as a vetter. This isn't about who's the
best trend or personality. This is about who can do
(10:09):
the best job to help you win.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
I'm going to make sure I got the quote correct
that you said Russell Wilson was kind of like the
guy who goes out for cigarettes and never never comes back.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
I said, just I said, Russell Wilson's game that we
known him to be in Seattle. Yeah, went out for
cigarettes and has not come back. He was he there
in Denver? Was he a Russell Wilson scrambling around and
(10:44):
being Russell Dazzel in Denver?
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Is he still out for cigarettes in Pittsburgh?
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Bro out for cigarettes? Man, he ain't there? Where did
it go, Steve?
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Where did it go?
Speaker 4 (11:00):
I don't know. That's why when you go out for cigarettes,
get their new porchs, bro They'll never come back. So
that's just the whole point.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
So you would stick with Justin Fields, Yeah, definitely, you
know that answer. Yeah, Well, sometimes they just kind of
ask I know, you do.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
You're great at that. Man.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
You got a backdrop here. It looks like you're joining
is from heaven.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
Yeah, you know, it's pretty dreary here in Carolina. It's raining,
So you know what I want to be sunshine and
rainbows and smiles and be happy. Man. You know, you
know I played with this attitude and this persona man,
and sometimes you just gotta wake up and say, you
know what, it's good to be allied.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Bro.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
There's some people that didn't wake up. There's some people
that's going through some worse circumstances. I get to talk
about football, a game that I love playing. I get
to you know, I do a little golf sometimes here
and there and talk on my podcast eighty nine. So look,
I'm just hanging out man and enjoying life and loving life, right, bro.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
But you played with a chip on your shoulder. Can
you get rid of the chip on your shoulder after
you're done playing?
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Absolutely?
Speaker 6 (12:08):
You know?
Speaker 4 (12:08):
It called is called golf, It's called iron out. I
sit there and uh play play golf and look at
it and and and uh. I get on the course,
I'm feeling good, look fresh, look dapper, and get out
there first first hole. Uh, mat, I'll get a par
may even get a birdie second hole. I'm over here
looking for my ball out in the woods. What you're
(12:29):
gonna do? Get mad? You just you just gotta take
it for what it is man, And so that's what
I'm trying to do and enjoin. I'm forty five years old.
Uh hell, I gotta I gotta slow down and enjoy
life at some point before life is no more.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Yes, yes, yeah, we all do. But we tell us,
we tell ourselves that, but that doesn't mean we do it.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Yeah, Well, you just gotta hang out with me a
little bit more and see you you see that, you'll
see the change if you don't believe it. Yeah, I've
heard worse from worse better people, so I'll be okay.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Better people than me.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Yeah, like my wife.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Yeah, it's fair.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
That's a veteran move by you. You don't have any
more beefs with players, Like if you see a player,
is there still a beef with somebody that you played against?
Speaker 6 (13:26):
No?
Speaker 4 (13:26):
Not really. I saw I've run into guys all the time.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Well, Terrell Buckley, if you saw Terrell Buckley.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
Yeah, I think we're cool unless he has a problem
with me. I don't have a problem with him.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Wait, didn't you have the super Bowl moment? Didn't you
have a he spit on you?
Speaker 4 (13:48):
Yeah? But I can't sit around it. I can't sit
around then.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
But if him though, Steve, like.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
To be honest, dare I don't even know where I
would see him. He and I would run into each other.
But if we did, Hey, what's how you doing? Just
hand looking man in the eye and keep it moving, bro,
I don't.
Speaker 6 (14:11):
You know?
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Okay, just in case, you know, you may see him
at a super Bowl or something.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
If that is the case, I'm gonna I don't have
a really good I don't really have time for that.
Speaker 6 (14:25):
Man.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Oh well, thanks for joining us as always, and uh
appreciate you. Yeah, enjoy your golf game?
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Oh will I can't today? Is raining?
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Yeah? My best of the wife too? Who's better than me?
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Should be?
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Should be? Not always though?
Speaker 4 (14:44):
Always?
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Okay, of course always.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
I bet she was born.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Thank you, Steve, No problem, bro, that's Steve Smith, Senior
NFL Network analyst.
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Speaker 2 (16:10):
Oh my god, it is uncomfortable. Even eleven years later.
Matt Harvey then with the Mets, so here he is
a young star in New York and looking at Tommy
John's surgery. He had talked about that the day before.
(16:33):
We have him on the day after, and he just
wants to talk about Qualcomm and he didn't understand the
kind of the quid pro quo is, I'll have you on,
you can get your sponsorship plug, but I get to
ask you some questions. It happens all the time on
the show. And we start out I think it's okay,
(16:53):
but he's sort of dancing with me a little bit.
He doesn't want to say too much about his shoulder
and surgery or Tommy John surgery, whatever it was, And
all of a sudden, well this is how it sounded.
And it doesn't get any easier for me to listen
to this or look at it. When you hear Tommy
(17:15):
John surgery, what does that mean to you? As a picture,
you know, I.
Speaker 6 (17:21):
Mean it's uh, it's something that obviously everybody you know
knows about. It's it's so common, but you know, it's it's.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Something you never you never know And is it scary
when you hear that that you know, that possibility of
you're deciding not to do it? How scary is it?
Speaker 6 (17:40):
You know? It's uh, it's it's it's kind of where
I mean, every picture can can you know, relate to
to what's going on? But you know, I think I didn't.
I did all those answers yesterday and and you know,
maybe at the appropriate time we can we can talk
a little bit more about that. But obviously, uh, you know,
(18:01):
today is about call Comb.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
You don't want to talk about your you know, this
whole rehab and Tommy John, Well, I.
Speaker 6 (18:09):
Will, I mean, I we can set up another call
if you'd like too about that subject. But uh, you know,
today obviously today we're honoring and supporting Callcomm.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Well, okay, I'll let you get your pitch and uh
tell us about qualcomm.
Speaker 6 (18:23):
Uh then Matt, Well, you know obviously we uh you know,
average average person uses their phone, you know, over one hundred,
one hundred times per day, and you know sometimes.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
This went on for another ninety seconds. You can just
leave it underneath me, Marvin.
Speaker 6 (18:43):
Nice to have a way to connect, and.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Like I really cared about QUALCOMMB. We didn't even know
what qualcomm was. You know.
Speaker 6 (18:53):
Baseball is is, you know, obviously huge and stadiums are
sold out everywhere and people are.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
When he says, hey, we could talk about this at
another time, I my head pops up and I stare
right at Fritzy, like, how did we get into this?
Speaker 6 (19:11):
Pretty much everybody tweeting and using.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Face but you know, Todd had no idea bring bring
Matt Harvey up again. And I see just going on fantastic. Yeah,
it's unlimited and.
Speaker 6 (19:23):
Food, participating in game promotions, you know, and support, yeah,
you know, information about the game. You know that way
you don't have to buy a booklet of all the rock.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Don't want a booklet obviously.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
So he just kept going, and then I knew the
interview was over. You can lower it now, Marvin. Your
head snaps up and he says, well, I mean, I'm
happy to set up another an interview at another time
where we can talk about that. And your head snaps
up and you look right over it. I looked at
Todd's so funny, And all I know is that when
that interview ended, we heard from somebody, a PR person
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or an agent, said hey, we'll set up something. Sorry
about that. He nobody told him what he's supposed to do.
You can get your plug for Qualcomm. I want to
talk to you about Tommy John surgery. And I knew
he wasn't a good interview, but he became kind of
an interesting interview because a legendary interview. By the way
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he answered the question honored Qualcomb very well.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
His credit.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
I will I will say that that's what he was doing,
and he is. He did a great job with that.
Oh it's painful, so painful, Yes, tom But.
Speaker 9 (20:39):
When you looked at me like that, I really hope
to this day they didn't think per second I had
some kind of agreement them.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Yeah, just we'll just talk about QUALKMB.
Speaker 9 (20:45):
You don't have to ask him any questions about baseball,
the Mets, or surgery.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
I know that it was.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Insane, No, I know, you would you assume that they
know like Kyler Murray did this. Kyler Murray got on
and he didn't say anything, And then I said, well,
tell me about gator and then he told me about gatorade,
and then that was it. He didn't want to answer anything,
at least tell us.
Speaker 9 (21:04):
An advance, you know, sometimes a certain topic that are
up the limits. And then we decided as a group,
then is it worth having that person on if we
can't ask a B or C.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
I wouldn't have had either on. But they certainly gave
us great content. That Seatan's Kyler Murray precision. That's basically
what I was getting out of him. It was essentially
you were interviewing Beavis and butt Head.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
So the fallout from that, like you said, there was
a flurry of emails and apologies and incredulous responses from
PR people over the next several hours. It was decided
that Matt Harvey would call back in the next day.
They reached out, got a hold of Matt that evening,
and the next day he reappeared on our show and
said he was going through a lot, he didn't know
(21:48):
what to talk about, whatnot, and it went pretty.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Well the next day. How could he possibly think correct, Yes,
how could he possibly think that we were here just
to talk about you know what, casting you know what
I've been really thinking about a lot. Is Qualcomm? Who
can we get on? Hey, Matt Harvey would be the
guy to have on. Uh hey, do you want to
(22:11):
talk to him about his elbow?
Speaker 6 (22:12):
No?
Speaker 2 (22:13):
No, no, I'm gonna talk about Qualcomm? Are you kidding me?
Let's talk about that device how it helps you. Oh
my god, I just it was one of those where
you go, wait, he's blowing me off talking about his
his injury. I mean I already answered all those questions yesterday. Yesterday,
you are in New York. You're a star of the Mets,
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and you don't know how to do an interview where
you get to get your plug in and answer four
questions and then that's it. Oh my god, he just
is he still talking?
Speaker 10 (22:46):
Marvin?
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Actually he just stopped me. He did, and I let
him get his plug. He that's one of the longer
plugs ever in his It did just keeps going on
it and he had no sensib awareness there. He's like,
and I could have said, and I swear to god,
I almost did this. Matt, tell me more about Qualcomm,
(23:11):
because I like, I was gonna make a total farce
out of this.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
Is sure a website we can go?
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Yeah? Yes, Now, he did call in in yes the
day after that, and then we kind of moved I
didn't want to have Matt Harvey on again.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
That was even a little bit more awkward, Uh, going
back and forth with the PR people that evening we
agreed upon it, and then you go, nah, you said nah.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
I didn't want him. I didn't want him on. I
had no interest. But then the Dan answer, They're always
like no, no, no, no, we should have on.
Speaker 9 (23:41):
You know, so crushed nationally as bad as it was,
it was like he really and rightfully so he was
like ripped and crossed the nation everywhere, headline everywhere.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
But I don't know who it was. Somebody was interviewing
him after me, and uh, like they didn't bring it
up that this just happened, but it just somebody else
another radio show had him on and treated it like
it was, Hey, Matt, how are you? How's the Tommy
John surgery? And he's answering these questions. You'd never know that,
(24:15):
you know, minutes earlier, he says, I'm only here to
talk about qualcomm He's he's got legendary status with this show,
and he can have that provided he never comes on
the show again. Yeah, although Paula goes, no, we would
have him back. I go no, one on one man. Okay,
why didn't you guys book Matt Harvey for today?
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Well I thought about booking him when his career ended,
I think three years ago, but it didn't go over
well in the room because.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Well, no, but we're talking about today. If you would
have him on again, then you would have him on today.
Things haven't gone well for Matt Harvey. No, they haven't
the last two to five years. Yes, two to five
is a funny line. By the way, Wow, he'd prefer
to talk about Qualcom if I'm I believe he would,
and you know his surgery. Yeah, yes, I think things
have not gone well for Matt. Okay, are you up
(25:07):
analyst next? Which actually makes the Qualcom interview. It all
makes a lot more sense to know what he was
doing while he was with the Mets, and then to
me that much of an idiot. You can google me.
Get it now, you can google it. I forgot about
Kyler Murray's b kirkte cousins on loan from the Falcons
(25:39):
coming up.
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It's a relationship that goes back I think thirteen years.
He's Kirk Cousins, he Falcons quarterback, four time Pro bowler
and fresh off the win Monday night against the Eagles,
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Speaker 11 (26:05):
I'm also a big fan of a Mercedes Benz now
that I moved to Atlanta driving Mercedes Benz. But I'm
here on this interview for one reason and one reason only,
and that's to talk about another brand that I have
a great respect for and want to honor, and that's Qualcomm, Oh,
my conductor software and telecommunications company that really just inspired
me to on this interview today.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Thank you. I hope you'll allow me to indulge in
you and some other questions about like the win against
the Eagles. But if you want to get around talking
about Qualcom, we'll get to that pitch coming up.
Speaker 11 (26:37):
Unlike Matt Harvey, I will allow you to talk football, okay,
but Qualcomm does mean a great deal to me as.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
It does Matt.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
All right, last Drive by Philly. You're on the sidelines.
What do you think is going to happen. How's that
going to play out?
Speaker 4 (26:55):
You know what?
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Dan?
Speaker 11 (26:56):
The final drive of the game. I've got some scars
in my football career where I thought we had won
the game and then it didn't end up the way
I had hoped. So I get a little skeptical when
I'm standing there watching, but you also believe, you know,
we can do this. And all the Eagles needed was
a field goal. So I was just standing and watching,
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and our defense made a great play. Jesse Bates was instinct,
Fule got the interception and at that point just needed
to take a knee.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
But when you see them passing, because on the Manning
cast you had Peyton Eli and Matt Ryan saying the
only way the Falcons can get the ball back is
if the Eagles put the ball in the air. You
see the pass and then what are you thinking when
Saquon drops that?
Speaker 11 (27:40):
Yeah, I think that's what's kind of so fun about
pro football is the strategy and the different options you
have there. I had heard an argument for you do
the the sneak that they've made famous on third down
and see if you can get it to a fourth
and one. And then because that play is seemingly so unstoppable.
Just do it again on fourth down and believe that
you're going to get it again. So there's an argument
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for just doing that sneak all the way down the field.
But the play was a good play in the sense
that he he he is opening the flat and it's
a safe throw, and your odds are he's gonna catch
it and potentially convert, and and you can ice the game.
So you know, when you don't know the future, you
don't know how it's gonna play out, all you can
do is is make your best call that you believe
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in and and let it go from there.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
What was it like you get in the huddle for
that last drive and you say, what.
Speaker 11 (28:29):
You know, I get very methodical. I'm kind of just
processed driven. So the play comes in, Hey we got
to run this play. If anything, it's all game. It's hey, guys,
let's just have fun competing and and let's.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Wait, wait, that's what you say. You're just like, hey,
let's let's compete, have some fun.
Speaker 11 (28:44):
I think there's a little bit of that. Just let's
not overcomplicate this. We don't need to talk about, you know,
the magnitude of the moment. We don't need to talk
about how John Candy's in the stands. You know, they
talk about it. Joe Montana said that, like, that's all
well and good, but let's just go play and uh,
find the open guy, get rid of the ball, and
try to get that first first down, and I think
I play my best. Just kind of simplifying the process
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and just treat it like you're playing the job the
position you've always played.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
I'm going to give your offensive line credit. But also
in the process question, the Eagles didn't blitz you, how
surprised were you? And I know their defensive coordinator normally
doesn't do that, but you don't have great mobility coming
off surgery. How surprised were you that they didn't send
an extra guy or two.
Speaker 11 (29:30):
Well, so the touchdown of Darnell Moone was cover zero,
so that was an all outputs. So if anything, when
they did bring the blitz, you know, we had our
biggest play of the night in terms of an explosive play.
So he may have said, hey, I learned my lesson
sending the pressure there, let's not do that. And secondly,
until the final drive when they were playing more of
a pre event coverage to just keep us out of
the end zone. They really did have a roof on
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the defense and we weren't getting many explosives throughout the game,
so I would say their plan was reasonably effective outside
of that cover zero and then out side of the
final drive, So I wouldn't really second guess that plan.
And Vic Fangio is the decourder. I have a lot
of respect for it. Played against the law, he's always
kind of been tough. It's been hard to find explosives,
and in the first game against the Packers they didn't
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blitz a ton either, so it was pretty pretty consistent
with what they've been doing.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Let's go around the room and guess the percentage that
Kirk's achilles is or what he's gonna say. So, Todd,
what do you think Kirk is going to say as
far as how far along he is with the recovery.
I'm gonna say eighty three percent, three seat ninety ninety five,
ninety Well, I need you to pick. I'm gonna go
towards ninety ninety Marvin Zeeden ninety five only.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
Kirk's a very positive guy. I let's say one hundred
and five percent better better Now he's faster, faster. Okay,
I'm gonna go I'm gonna say he's eighty eight percent
right now.
Speaker 11 (30:51):
I'm somewhere between like ninety five and one oh five.
So you're there, create a good parameter. Okay, I'm feeling good.
I think the challenge for me Dan and honestly would
be the red jersey of practice and the rust that
I think needed to be worked off. I think they
being out since week eight last year or after week eight,
and when you come back, you're not really back. You're
in a red jersey and it just doesn't have the
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same feel of live football. I've always said that going
into week one that it's a little hard, but just
felt that again this year. And you know, I'm optimistic
that as we go here that that that Russ gets
off pretty quick.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
But how does that affect you as far as planting
or running or lateral movement?
Speaker 11 (31:32):
You know, I think I think in the first game
against the Steelers, the final play really basically the interception
that I threw, I'm getting you know, I'm there's push,
but I'm used to in practice. Basically the Sea's part,
you know, it's like Moses in the Red Sea or
I just stand there and everybody just gets out of
the way, and I make the throw. And then you
play against the Steelers and you realize they're not getting
out of the way. They're just going to continue to
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make it a telephone booth for you. And so kind
of realizing that I've been playing in a much much
bigger telephone booth in practice, you get this all sense
of security of oh, I got space here, I got room,
when in reality, no, you don't. And so it takes
live bullets to realize, you know, just how fast the
game is moving and how just how small that telephone
booth can get.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
He's mister Primetime now, Kirk d Cousins joining us on
the program for the last five Monday night.
Speaker 10 (32:18):
You couldn't then, I guess the tables have turned along
these lines.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
What happened?
Speaker 10 (32:22):
What I couldn't figure it out in primetime?
Speaker 11 (32:24):
And I always drugged my shoulders at both sides because
some of these Primetime wins I've had recently, I really
haven't played that that great, you know. I remember we
had won a couple of money night games at the Bears,
and I walked on the field. We won, but I
wasn't outstanding and there has been games in the past
we lost and I thought that's the best I've ever played,
So I kind of shrugged my shoulders at it.
Speaker 10 (32:41):
But I'll much rather take mister primetime than what it
used to be.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
But what is that like when you throw that interception,
that that you know you feel like, Okay, we've lost
this game, or I've cost us. That feeling of walking off,
you know, to the sidelines, going into the locker room,
you know.
Speaker 11 (33:00):
Definitely ruined my my afternoon, in my evening. Dan, it's
pretty miserable. Uh, but when you go home to the
kid's wife, Nah, No, it's there's no there's no consolation.
I was sitting there watching the Lions and Rams, and
I'm pretty miserable on Sunday night. That's honestly again, that's
the challenge I've had my whole career is how do
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you how do you still sort of sleep at night?
How do you you know cause you're gonna fail, this
league's gonna test you. Is being able to kind of
let it roll off your back and just move forward.
For me, it's always been you just wear it so hard,
And that was something that both Sean McVay and I
used to kind of, you know, have a kindred spirit
about is it just it just eats at you, and
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it's what it's what makes you great. It's one of
your greatest strengths. But then it can also be one
of your biggest challenges you face. And and just that
that how much it means to you something I've always
tried to kind of balance.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
But the pressure that I see on these rookie quarterbacks.
You played I think one game your rookie season, but
you know, high draft pick, come on in and let's
see some magic here.
Speaker 6 (34:01):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Bryce Young from last year, now he gets binged. I
can you can you put us in that position of
what that pressure is like for these kids?
Speaker 11 (34:11):
Yeah, it's it's it's difficult. First of all, football's a
team game. And so when you have a great system,
great coaches around you, getting people wide open, the protection
plans outstanding, you're gonna look a little better, and vice versa.
When you you know, if you got to you know people.
Speaker 10 (34:27):
Around you who aren't really helping move the needle. That
can make it a lot harder too.
Speaker 11 (34:31):
So the quarterback gets evaluated so much as if he's
on an island, when in reality, it's a team deal
and then uh, certainly as a rookie, there's gonna be
you know, a learning curve. There's gonna be things that
you've got to figure out. And then then year two
comes where defenses say, okay, we we've got a year
of film on you. Now we're gonna study you and
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start to figure out better how to defend you. So
even once you have a good rookie year, that doesn't
suddenly mean you've got it all figured out. So it's
a marathon, not a sprint. I learned that first hand
being a fourth round pick, thinking that going to Washington
was a dead end and seeing how my career played out.
You got to play for the long game and just
believe that if you have good habits in a good process,
that the long game will work itself out.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
You got the Chiefs coming to town.
Speaker 10 (35:14):
Yep, Sunday night, Howell.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
How often do you watch the other quarterback too? Not
as a fan, but just watching during the game of
what Mahomes would do, or Brady would do, or Josh
whoever it might be.
Speaker 11 (35:31):
Well, it's funny because I remember driving home from a
game last year. We play at noon in Minnesota Central time,
so we'd be driving home at like four o'clock and
my wife, who loves following it all, said in the
cars she said, all Sunday night football this week is
Mahomes versus Stafford.
Speaker 10 (35:46):
That's gonna be great.
Speaker 11 (35:47):
It's gonna be a lot of fun or whatever the
two quarterbacks were, and I remember kind of kind of laughing.
I'm like, well, it's the Chiefs versus the Rams, it's
not Mahomes verse Stafford. But her point is is that
the quarterbacks are what makes it fun to watch. And
I would do agree with her that when you have
two really high level, experienced quarterbacks with a lot of
skins on the wall, that's what kind of draws my
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interest the most to watch and to study and to see.
And so I think that's where football gets really fun,
is when you get those quarterbacks so you feel really
know what they're doing. It's it's really the best product.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Okay, full disclosure. I wasn't big on the uniforms, the
away uniforms, the all white with the black helmet. Yeah,
I needed I need a little more oomph in there,
a little bit more contrast in there. And I know,
if you can work this in your contract, well.
Speaker 10 (36:37):
I negotiated a lot of contracts over the years, so
I'm open to any.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
You're very good at it. You're very good at it.
I think we gotta we gotta do a little better
on the road. It just felt a little your uniforms
felt incomplete.
Speaker 11 (36:49):
See, well, I don't want I don't want incomplete uniforms.
But when I played in Michigan State, our style was
all white head to toe with with the green helmet.
And so when I came in room the other night
and saw it's going to be all white with the
black helmet, it kind of took me back to my
Michigan State days and I thought, I can I can
work with this. We had success with this in college,
so I was open to it. You know, the linemen
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tend to like all black because black is slimming. They
do not like all white. They feel like they're walking
out there looking like the michelin Man.
Speaker 10 (37:19):
So linemen would be more in your corner. The all
white does not work for them.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
When Drake London goes to the line of scrimmage, does
he have any options thereof? I mean, the move is
incredible to score the game winner, but right, like, how
does that work? What's the play call and it's going
to him, but does he have any can he change anything?
Speaker 6 (37:43):
You know?
Speaker 11 (37:44):
So it's it's designed for him to kind of have
that basketball crossover. Drake has a basketball background and so
he has a real natural feel for how to break
down and kind of sell one way and go the
other like he's a point guard.
Speaker 10 (37:54):
And that's really what the route called for.
Speaker 11 (37:56):
And Darius Slay is such an instinctive corner and plays
with great vision, and so we knew that this route
could kind of kind of play to Darius's game where
if Drake gives that move inside, he'll he'll react and
he'll go for that big play and then we can
break back out to the front pylon. Really, the freedom
that Drake has is which angle to said do? What
does he flatten into the front pilon? Does he kind
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of set it higher, so based on the coverage contour,
he'll change that angle. But once I saw him kind
of get Darius to bite inside, I just knew I
had to put it out to the sideline and he'll
go get it. And uh, very rarely do you get
that much separation down in the low regident. So Drake
made my jaba a lot easier.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
How where will you be where Chris Jones is, Yeah,
you have.
Speaker 10 (38:38):
To be He'll he'll wreck the game if you're not.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Could you go to the line of scrimmage? And how
often do you look for a defensive player single out
a defensive player?
Speaker 11 (38:49):
Yeah, no, I think there's a lot of awareness. Certainly
where's ninety five and and for our O line, our center,
you know that whole thing. You know, whether it's Aaron Donald,
whether it's Max Crosby, whether it's Nick bo So you know,
there's there's just over a half dozen, maybe a dozen
guys in the league like that who will wreck the
game if you don't have four hands on them as
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many plays as possible, you know, And Chris is a
personality on the field.
Speaker 10 (39:14):
He'll make himself known.
Speaker 11 (39:15):
You know, you don't really have to go look at
for him because he's gonna he'll break the huddle he's making,
he's having a conversation. You're in a TV time out,
he's having a conversation. So they were the lineman last
year in Minnesota and we played him, were joking they said,
Chris is, you know, big personality. He's pretty friendly, he's
positive out there. But I don't really want to hear
any of it because he's ruining my day. So uh yeah,
we'll hopefully be able to corral him on Sunday. But
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he's the real deal.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Do those guys Do you get yelled at by defensive players? Yeah?
Speaker 11 (39:43):
Usually, you know it's everything from the week one TJ
Watt after a play where you know, he does a
drive by and I kind of hear him and feel
him as I throw the ball. He'll he'll walk back
to the next play and just say, hey, what's up, Kirk,
and just kind of like he's saying hello. And then
there's other guys who you know, they may yell you
like that at me. Uh you know, you'll get guys
who have more to say. You know, Brandon Graham at
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the coin toss, I I you know, go back to
playing in with the University of Michigan. We both grew
up in Michigan, so I've always you know, followed him
and dap him up at the coin toss and he's
gonna let me know, Hey, you know you're gonna see
me at the coin toss, but you're gonna see me
a lot this game. So he tries to you know,
kind of get in your head from the from the
coin toss. So there's always talk going.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
But you're not a trash talker.
Speaker 6 (40:24):
So my my.
Speaker 11 (40:25):
Perspective is the same perspective of most quarterbacks, which is
why in the world would I gas them up? Like,
like football is hard enough, Why in the world would
I add fuel to that fire. And sometimes I see
teammates who are adding fuel to their fire, and I
look like, oh, guys, you're not the one standing back
in the pocket that they're foaming at the mouth to
come get please stop, please stop adding fuel to their fire.
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Do you try to be overly nice? Uh, there's a
little bit of that. I don't think there's anything wrong
with Hey, nice play, good rush?
Speaker 10 (40:56):
Uh you know, how are the wife.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
And kids good shots?
Speaker 3 (41:00):
Like that?
Speaker 2 (41:00):
You don't say a nice cheap shot?
Speaker 10 (41:02):
No, no, you just kind of try to keep it civil.
Speaker 11 (41:06):
Don't give him any additional reason that they already have
to come take your head off.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
He's the new mister Primetime and Primetime Sunday Night. Kirk
d Cousins, Hey, great to talk to you again. Congratulations
on the win. Good catching up, Thanks Dan, and only
here to talk about qualcomm
Speaker 1 (41:24):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Before we get to our next guest, he is one
of four wide receivers in the last fifty years to
have the Triple Crown. Now that's he did it in
two thousand and five. That means he led the NFL
in catches, yards and touchdowns. So before we get to
Steve Smith Senior, can you name the other ones? I'm
(00:25):
gonna throw out? So there's four other guys who have
won the Triple Crown of receiving in the last fifty years.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
There's four, including Steve Smith.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Oh okay, so ife to name three? Correct? So if
I say Randy Moss, he did not. If I say
Lance Allworth.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Yes, nineteen sixty six, so that's beyond the scope. Oh okay,
the first one was it in our list? Here is
nineteen ninety cal uh uh, Jerry Rice. Jerry Rice's okay,
all right, I've heard of him. The other one was
within the past four years, Tyreek Hill, Cooper Cup, Cooper Cup.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Oh, yeah, that's right. We did mention that.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
And then the other one. Here's the big hint. This
guy would be in the Hall of Fame except for
a neck injury. Sterling, Shark Sterling, Sharpest correct Sling.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Sure make way for Steve Smith's senior NFL network analysts.
That's a pretty good company there, Steve, What do you
remember about that two thousand and five season?
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Well, well, first, good morning. Uh, it was a long
time ago. I think I had hair back then, so
that's that's one of the biggest things I remember.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
But you helped Cam. That was Cam's rookie year.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Wasn't, no, sir, No, Cam was I think in middle
school at that time.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Okay, no, this was Jake de Low. Oh okay, but
you know, you look at that, why haven't we had
more receivers win the triple crown.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
I mean, it's a tough it's a tough deal to do.
To leak in all the categories, it's very rare. I'm
not gonna sit here into my own horn. But you know,
everything has to lie. You got to have the right
combination of teams playing the right opponents. Offense got to
be flowing, good pass game, good run game. You know,
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kind of just structurally things have to fall in place.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
I had a couple of topics to get to. Two
of going on the ir as opposed to concussion protocol.
What does that mean to you? When you see him
go on the IR So he's gone for at least
four weeks.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
It gives an opportunity where you could take your time
and figure out what you need to do, sort out
some kind of plan. Also like the fact that on
those four weeks it's not like he has to play,
so that means he gets to take his time and
talk to his doctors. You know, going through decision making
like this, it's an emotional roller coaster. There's going to
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be some highs, are going to be most likely more lows,
and a lot of conversations that he needs to have
and wrestle with and grieve through and process. And I
believe it at least gives him the starting point not
to be pressured in making any kind of decision tomorrow,
because the league is about decisions and doing things sometimes
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based off perspective, not based off reality. Sooner than later.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Yeah, it just concerned me that it was four weeks
as opposed to week by week that And I don't
know if you agree if you get a concussion you're
more susceptible to getting another concussion.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
I think everybody's different. I've played with some guys who's
had multiple concussions. I played with guys who like for myself,
I've only had one concussion in my career. However, it
took me about three weeks to really just come out
of it. It was a pretty bad a concussion. It
was an accident. I didn't get a concussion tackled. I
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got a concussion. Actually, I was getting up and someone
I didn't know and someone at the back of my head.
I hit their knee. Like they didn't hit me. I
hit them obviously because I don't really have even though
my kids believe it, I don't have eyes behind the
back of my head. And I hit it right there
in the sweet spot, and they knew something was wrong
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because I was in a huddle. We said break and
they said. Everybody broke out of the huddle, but me,
I was still there. So you know, everybody's different. So,
I mean, I played sixteen years one concussion. There's guys
who've played less than that and had multiple concussions. You know,
everybody's built differently. So to be able to say that
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we know how everyone handles it, and all of these
armchair doctors who have their personal opinion, I think, you know,
I know where in this age where everybody's opinion matters.
So I'm throwing mine out there, and I think we
all should sit back and allow to it to make
his own decision on his career and allow him to
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deal with what he wants to deal with, versus us
giving our opinion on something that unfortunately, Let's be honest,
if you're not our circus, not our monkey, so why
do we have to whilere we given our input on
something that really we don't have a hand head.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
We're talking to Steve Smith, Senior, former NFL Pro Bowl
wide receiver working for the NFL Network. If you were
a player on the Carolina Panthers and they made the
decision to bench Bryce Young, how would you react?
Speaker 4 (05:37):
I mean, he's got a roll with the next guy.
People don't want to hear that, but that's how it is.
If Bryce got hurt, we'll be saying the same thing.
Who's the next guy up? Next man up? Is there?
For whatever reason, we feel like that this situation is
now all of a sudden that Bryce is done. I'm
hearing everybody talk about he should be done. Trade him.
(05:58):
I think the fact that they sat him down, I
think that's a good thing. And the reason why I
believe that's a good thing is because this if you
see a young man sitting there and you throw him
in a swimming pool and you see he's drowning a
little bit, you don't remove him from the swimming pool
and throw him in the ocean and say, okay, with
the bigger tides. He should be okay. Because he was
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drafted first overall, he should he should be fine, or hey,
get rid of him. How about do what they're doing
is allow him to sit back, evaluate and then maybe
train them and gradually put them back in there when
he can also learn the game. He was a great
processor in college. That's what got him drafted. That doesn't
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mean what you did in college you're gonna do that
in the NFL, because that's the that's the level up
that's called advancing. That's why it's professionals and amateurs or collegiate.
I know NIL makes people believe they're professionals, but guess what,
there are eighty wide receivers next years and that are
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trying to come out. In next year's draft, there were
I believe twenty seven wide receivers drafted. I'm no mathematician,
but guess what, not, everybody's gonna make it.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
I'm fine with them benching him, and even using the
word benching sounds rough. I think they're just replacing him,
putting Andy Dilton in there, and it's hard for him.
You get into bad habits and it feels like he's
a little you know, he wants to make a quick decision.
He doesn't let a play kind of unfold. I mean,
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there's a there's a lot of bad things that can happen,
and I think sitting down for a little bit, maybe
he doesn't play for them, But I would give I
hope he gets another chance this season.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
I agree, I think he's I don't know if given
him another chance this season only because if Andy Dalton
does well and you've brought him in to help him,
what if having a successful season or seeing someone else
do it not. Ever, some people learn differently visual aids,
some people learn by example, some people learn by watching
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other people do it. So sitting him down and letting
him ride out the season and learning and now he
doesn't have the pressure on him, maybe he'll learn some things,
maybe he'll see the game from a different perspective, and
maybe you won't. But I'm pretty sure it will because
because when you think about it, this is probably the
first time he's looked at the game from this position,
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which is the sideline with no injury. That's not a
bad thing. Adversity is about dealing with dealing with some
things that you don't see. And that's what makes football
players athletes so much. So much we're intriguing because we
can take a negative and tournament turn it into a positive.
If we're going on a bench and say he's he
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bryce young, can never recover. Does that mean some of
these coaches who have been given a head coaching job
maybe too early or or a position too early in
their career, does that mean that they never should get
a job there? You know this answer, No, that doesn't happen,
So why does it happen with players? But yet we
(09:23):
could give a guy a job in a in the
NFL or NBA or too early, be terrible, god.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
Awful, and then a couple of months later he's at
another place worse, and then it takes them three or
four times to realize maybe he's just a coordinator, not
a head coach.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
That's just me.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Would you stick with justin fields in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Well, yeah, I don't know why that. Yes, I would
stick with Justin Fields. He's he's winning games for you.
Why change it because you have a guy that you
brought in as a vetter. This isn't about who's the
best trend or personality. This is about who can do
(10:09):
the best job to help you win.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
I'm going to make sure I got the quote correct
that you said Russell Wilson was kind of like the
guy who goes out for cigarettes and never never comes back.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
I said, just I said, Russell Wilson's game that we
known him to be in Seattle. Yeah, went out for
cigarettes and has not come back. He was he there
in Denver? Was he a Russell Wilson scrambling around and
(10:44):
being Russell Dazzel in Denver?
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Is he still out for cigarettes in Pittsburgh?
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Bro out for cigarettes? Man, he ain't there? Where did
it go, Steve?
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Where did it go?
Speaker 4 (11:00):
I don't know. That's why when you go out for cigarettes,
get their new porchs, bro They'll never come back. So
that's just the whole point.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
So you would stick with Justin Fields, Yeah, definitely, you
know that answer. Yeah, Well, sometimes they just kind of
ask I know, you do.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
You're great at that. Man.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
You got a backdrop here. It looks like you're joining
is from heaven.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
Yeah, you know, it's pretty dreary here in Carolina. It's raining,
So you know what I want to be sunshine and
rainbows and smiles and be happy. Man. You know, you
know I played with this attitude and this persona man,
and sometimes you just gotta wake up and say, you
know what, it's good to be allied.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Bro.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
There's some people that didn't wake up. There's some people
that's going through some worse circumstances. I get to talk
about football, a game that I love playing. I get
to you know, I do a little golf sometimes here
and there and talk on my podcast eighty nine. So look,
I'm just hanging out man and enjoying life and loving life, right, bro.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
But you played with a chip on your shoulder. Can
you get rid of the chip on your shoulder after
you're done playing?
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Absolutely?
Speaker 6 (12:08):
You know?
Speaker 4 (12:08):
It called is called golf, It's called iron out. I
sit there and uh play play golf and look at
it and and and uh. I get on the course,
I'm feeling good, look fresh, look dapper, and get out
there first first hole. Uh, mat, I'll get a par
may even get a birdie second hole. I'm over here
looking for my ball out in the woods. What you're
(12:29):
gonna do? Get mad? You just you just gotta take
it for what it is man, And so that's what
I'm trying to do and enjoin. I'm forty five years old.
Uh hell, I gotta I gotta slow down and enjoy
life at some point before life is no more.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Yes, yes, yeah, we all do. But we tell us,
we tell ourselves that, but that doesn't mean we do it.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Yeah, Well, you just gotta hang out with me a
little bit more and see you you see that, you'll
see the change if you don't believe it. Yeah, I've
heard worse from worse better people, so I'll be okay.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Better people than me.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Yeah, like my wife.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Yeah, it's fair.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
That's a veteran move by you. You don't have any
more beefs with players, Like if you see a player,
is there still a beef with somebody that you played against?
Speaker 6 (13:26):
No?
Speaker 4 (13:26):
Not really. I saw I've run into guys all the time.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Well, Terrell Buckley, if you saw Terrell Buckley.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
Yeah, I think we're cool unless he has a problem
with me. I don't have a problem with him.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Wait, didn't you have the super Bowl moment? Didn't you
have a he spit on you?
Speaker 4 (13:48):
Yeah? But I can't sit around it. I can't sit
around then.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
But if him though, Steve, like.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
To be honest, dare I don't even know where I
would see him. He and I would run into each other.
But if we did, Hey, what's how you doing? Just
hand looking man in the eye and keep it moving, bro,
I don't.
Speaker 6 (14:11):
You know?
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Okay, just in case, you know, you may see him
at a super Bowl or something.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
If that is the case, I'm gonna I don't have
a really good I don't really have time for that.
Speaker 6 (14:25):
Man.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Oh well, thanks for joining us as always, and uh
appreciate you. Yeah, enjoy your golf game?
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Oh will I can't today? Is raining?
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Yeah? My best of the wife too? Who's better than me?
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Should be?
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Should be? Not always though?
Speaker 4 (14:44):
Always?
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Okay, of course always.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
I bet she was born.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Thank you, Steve, No problem, bro, that's Steve Smith, Senior
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Speaker 2 (16:10):
Oh my god, it is uncomfortable. Even eleven years later.
Matt Harvey then with the Mets, so here he is
a young star in New York and looking at Tommy
John's surgery. He had talked about that the day before.
(16:33):
We have him on the day after, and he just
wants to talk about Qualcomm and he didn't understand the
kind of the quid pro quo is, I'll have you on,
you can get your sponsorship plug, but I get to
ask you some questions. It happens all the time on
the show. And we start out I think it's okay,
(16:53):
but he's sort of dancing with me a little bit.
He doesn't want to say too much about his shoulder
and surgery or Tommy John surgery, whatever it was, And
all of a sudden, well this is how it sounded.
And it doesn't get any easier for me to listen
to this or look at it. When you hear Tommy
(17:15):
John surgery, what does that mean to you? As a picture,
you know, I.
Speaker 6 (17:21):
Mean it's uh, it's something that obviously everybody you know
knows about. It's it's so common, but you know, it's it's.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Something you never you never know And is it scary
when you hear that that you know, that possibility of
you're deciding not to do it? How scary is it?
Speaker 6 (17:40):
You know? It's uh, it's it's it's kind of where
I mean, every picture can can you know, relate to
to what's going on? But you know, I think I didn't.
I did all those answers yesterday and and you know,
maybe at the appropriate time we can we can talk
a little bit more about that. But obviously, uh, you know,
(18:01):
today is about call Comb.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
You don't want to talk about your you know, this
whole rehab and Tommy John, Well, I.
Speaker 6 (18:09):
Will, I mean, I we can set up another call
if you'd like too about that subject. But uh, you know,
today obviously today we're honoring and supporting Callcomm.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Well, okay, I'll let you get your pitch and uh
tell us about qualcomm.
Speaker 6 (18:23):
Uh then Matt, Well, you know obviously we uh you know,
average average person uses their phone, you know, over one hundred,
one hundred times per day, and you know sometimes.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
This went on for another ninety seconds. You can just
leave it underneath me, Marvin.
Speaker 6 (18:43):
Nice to have a way to connect, and.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Like I really cared about QUALCOMMB. We didn't even know
what qualcomm was. You know.
Speaker 6 (18:53):
Baseball is is, you know, obviously huge and stadiums are
sold out everywhere and people are.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
When he says, hey, we could talk about this at
another time, I my head pops up and I stare
right at Fritzy, like, how did we get into this?
Speaker 6 (19:11):
Pretty much everybody tweeting and using.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Face but you know, Todd had no idea bring bring
Matt Harvey up again. And I see just going on fantastic. Yeah,
it's unlimited and.
Speaker 6 (19:23):
Food, participating in game promotions, you know, and support, yeah,
you know, information about the game. You know that way
you don't have to buy a booklet of all the rock.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Don't want a booklet obviously.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
So he just kept going, and then I knew the
interview was over. You can lower it now, Marvin. Your
head snaps up and he says, well, I mean, I'm
happy to set up another an interview at another time
where we can talk about that. And your head snaps
up and you look right over it. I looked at
Todd's so funny, And all I know is that when
that interview ended, we heard from somebody, a PR person
(20:05):
or an agent, said hey, we'll set up something. Sorry
about that. He nobody told him what he's supposed to do.
You can get your plug for Qualcomm. I want to
talk to you about Tommy John surgery. And I knew
he wasn't a good interview, but he became kind of
an interesting interview because a legendary interview. By the way
(20:26):
he answered the question honored Qualcomb very well.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
His credit.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
I will I will say that that's what he was doing,
and he is. He did a great job with that.
Oh it's painful, so painful, Yes, tom But.
Speaker 9 (20:39):
When you looked at me like that, I really hope
to this day they didn't think per second I had
some kind of agreement them.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Yeah, just we'll just talk about QUALKMB.
Speaker 9 (20:45):
You don't have to ask him any questions about baseball,
the Mets, or surgery.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
I know that it was.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Insane, No, I know, you would you assume that they
know like Kyler Murray did this. Kyler Murray got on
and he didn't say anything, And then I said, well,
tell me about gator and then he told me about gatorade,
and then that was it. He didn't want to answer anything,
at least tell us.
Speaker 9 (21:04):
An advance, you know, sometimes a certain topic that are
up the limits. And then we decided as a group,
then is it worth having that person on if we
can't ask a B or C.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
I wouldn't have had either on. But they certainly gave
us great content. That Seatan's Kyler Murray precision. That's basically
what I was getting out of him. It was essentially
you were interviewing Beavis and butt Head.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
So the fallout from that, like you said, there was
a flurry of emails and apologies and incredulous responses from
PR people over the next several hours. It was decided
that Matt Harvey would call back in the next day.
They reached out, got a hold of Matt that evening,
and the next day he reappeared on our show and
said he was going through a lot, he didn't know
(21:48):
what to talk about, whatnot, and it went pretty.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Well the next day. How could he possibly think correct, Yes,
how could he possibly think that we were here just
to talk about you know what, casting you know what
I've been really thinking about a lot. Is Qualcomm? Who
can we get on? Hey, Matt Harvey would be the
guy to have on. Uh hey, do you want to
(22:11):
talk to him about his elbow?
Speaker 6 (22:12):
No?
Speaker 2 (22:13):
No, no, I'm gonna talk about Qualcomm? Are you kidding me?
Let's talk about that device how it helps you. Oh
my god, I just it was one of those where
you go, wait, he's blowing me off talking about his
his injury. I mean I already answered all those questions yesterday. Yesterday,
you are in New York. You're a star of the Mets,
(22:35):
and you don't know how to do an interview where
you get to get your plug in and answer four
questions and then that's it. Oh my god, he just
is he still talking?
Speaker 10 (22:46):
Marvin?
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Actually he just stopped me. He did, and I let
him get his plug. He that's one of the longer
plugs ever in his It did just keeps going on
it and he had no sensib awareness there. He's like,
and I could have said, and I swear to god,
I almost did this. Matt, tell me more about Qualcomm,
(23:11):
because I like, I was gonna make a total farce
out of this.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
Is sure a website we can go?
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Yeah? Yes, Now, he did call in in yes the
day after that, and then we kind of moved I
didn't want to have Matt Harvey on again.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
That was even a little bit more awkward, Uh, going
back and forth with the PR people that evening we
agreed upon it, and then you go, nah, you said nah.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
I didn't want him. I didn't want him on. I
had no interest. But then the Dan answer, They're always
like no, no, no, no, we should have on.
Speaker 9 (23:41):
You know, so crushed nationally as bad as it was,
it was like he really and rightfully so he was
like ripped and crossed the nation everywhere, headline everywhere.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
But I don't know who it was. Somebody was interviewing
him after me, and uh, like they didn't bring it
up that this just happened, but it just somebody else
another radio show had him on and treated it like
it was, Hey, Matt, how are you? How's the Tommy
John surgery? And he's answering these questions. You'd never know that,
(24:15):
you know, minutes earlier, he says, I'm only here to
talk about qualcomm He's he's got legendary status with this show,
and he can have that provided he never comes on
the show again. Yeah, although Paula goes, no, we would
have him back. I go no, one on one man. Okay,
why didn't you guys book Matt Harvey for today?
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Well I thought about booking him when his career ended,
I think three years ago, but it didn't go over
well in the room because.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Well, no, but we're talking about today. If you would
have him on again, then you would have him on today.
Things haven't gone well for Matt Harvey. No, they haven't
the last two to five years. Yes, two to five
is a funny line. By the way, Wow, he'd prefer
to talk about Qualcom if I'm I believe he would,
and you know his surgery. Yeah, yes, I think things
have not gone well for Matt. Okay, are you up
(25:07):
analyst next? Which actually makes the Qualcom interview. It all
makes a lot more sense to know what he was
doing while he was with the Mets, and then to
me that much of an idiot. You can google me.
Get it now, you can google it. I forgot about
Kyler Murray's b kirkte cousins on loan from the Falcons
(25:39):
coming up.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
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on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAP.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
It's a relationship that goes back I think thirteen years.
He's Kirk Cousins, he Falcons quarterback, four time Pro bowler
and fresh off the win Monday night against the Eagles,
back on the program. How you doing I'm doing well, Dan.
Speaker 11 (26:05):
I'm also a big fan of a Mercedes Benz now
that I moved to Atlanta driving Mercedes Benz. But I'm
here on this interview for one reason and one reason only,
and that's to talk about another brand that I have
a great respect for and want to honor, and that's Qualcomm, Oh,
my conductor software and telecommunications company that really just inspired
me to on this interview today.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Thank you. I hope you'll allow me to indulge in
you and some other questions about like the win against
the Eagles. But if you want to get around talking
about Qualcom, we'll get to that pitch coming up.
Speaker 11 (26:37):
Unlike Matt Harvey, I will allow you to talk football, okay,
but Qualcomm does mean a great deal to me as.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
It does Matt.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
All right, last Drive by Philly. You're on the sidelines.
What do you think is going to happen. How's that
going to play out?
Speaker 4 (26:55):
You know what?
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Dan?
Speaker 11 (26:56):
The final drive of the game. I've got some scars
in my football career where I thought we had won
the game and then it didn't end up the way
I had hoped. So I get a little skeptical when
I'm standing there watching, but you also believe, you know,
we can do this. And all the Eagles needed was
a field goal. So I was just standing and watching,
(27:16):
and our defense made a great play. Jesse Bates was instinct,
Fule got the interception and at that point just needed
to take a knee.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
But when you see them passing, because on the Manning
cast you had Peyton Eli and Matt Ryan saying the
only way the Falcons can get the ball back is
if the Eagles put the ball in the air. You
see the pass and then what are you thinking when
Saquon drops that?
Speaker 11 (27:40):
Yeah, I think that's what's kind of so fun about
pro football is the strategy and the different options you
have there. I had heard an argument for you do
the the sneak that they've made famous on third down
and see if you can get it to a fourth
and one. And then because that play is seemingly so unstoppable.
Just do it again on fourth down and believe that
you're going to get it again. So there's an argument
(28:01):
for just doing that sneak all the way down the field.
But the play was a good play in the sense
that he he he is opening the flat and it's
a safe throw, and your odds are he's gonna catch
it and potentially convert, and and you can ice the game.
So you know, when you don't know the future, you
don't know how it's gonna play out, all you can
do is is make your best call that you believe
(28:22):
in and and let it go from there.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
What was it like you get in the huddle for
that last drive and you say, what.
Speaker 11 (28:29):
You know, I get very methodical. I'm kind of just
processed driven. So the play comes in, Hey we got
to run this play. If anything, it's all game. It's hey, guys,
let's just have fun competing and and let's.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Wait, wait, that's what you say. You're just like, hey,
let's let's compete, have some fun.
Speaker 11 (28:44):
I think there's a little bit of that. Just let's
not overcomplicate this. We don't need to talk about, you know,
the magnitude of the moment. We don't need to talk
about how John Candy's in the stands. You know, they
talk about it. Joe Montana said that, like, that's all
well and good, but let's just go play and uh,
find the open guy, get rid of the ball, and
try to get that first first down, and I think
I play my best. Just kind of simplifying the process
(29:05):
and just treat it like you're playing the job the
position you've always played.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
I'm going to give your offensive line credit. But also
in the process question, the Eagles didn't blitz you, how
surprised were you? And I know their defensive coordinator normally
doesn't do that, but you don't have great mobility coming
off surgery. How surprised were you that they didn't send
an extra guy or two.
Speaker 11 (29:30):
Well, so the touchdown of Darnell Moone was cover zero,
so that was an all outputs. So if anything, when
they did bring the blitz, you know, we had our
biggest play of the night in terms of an explosive play.
So he may have said, hey, I learned my lesson
sending the pressure there, let's not do that. And secondly,
until the final drive when they were playing more of
a pre event coverage to just keep us out of
the end zone. They really did have a roof on
(29:51):
the defense and we weren't getting many explosives throughout the game,
so I would say their plan was reasonably effective outside
of that cover zero and then out side of the
final drive, So I wouldn't really second guess that plan.
And Vic Fangio is the decourder. I have a lot
of respect for it. Played against the law, he's always
kind of been tough. It's been hard to find explosives,
and in the first game against the Packers they didn't
(30:11):
blitz a ton either, so it was pretty pretty consistent
with what they've been doing.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Let's go around the room and guess the percentage that
Kirk's achilles is or what he's gonna say. So, Todd,
what do you think Kirk is going to say as
far as how far along he is with the recovery.
I'm gonna say eighty three percent, three seat ninety ninety five,
ninety Well, I need you to pick. I'm gonna go
towards ninety ninety Marvin Zeeden ninety five only.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
Kirk's a very positive guy. I let's say one hundred
and five percent better better Now he's faster, faster. Okay,
I'm gonna go I'm gonna say he's eighty eight percent
right now.
Speaker 11 (30:51):
I'm somewhere between like ninety five and one oh five.
So you're there, create a good parameter. Okay, I'm feeling good.
I think the challenge for me Dan and honestly would
be the red jersey of practice and the rust that
I think needed to be worked off. I think they
being out since week eight last year or after week eight,
and when you come back, you're not really back. You're
in a red jersey and it just doesn't have the
(31:12):
same feel of live football. I've always said that going
into week one that it's a little hard, but just
felt that again this year. And you know, I'm optimistic
that as we go here that that that Russ gets
off pretty quick.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
But how does that affect you as far as planting
or running or lateral movement?
Speaker 11 (31:32):
You know, I think I think in the first game
against the Steelers, the final play really basically the interception
that I threw, I'm getting you know, I'm there's push,
but I'm used to in practice. Basically the Sea's part,
you know, it's like Moses in the Red Sea or
I just stand there and everybody just gets out of
the way, and I make the throw. And then you
play against the Steelers and you realize they're not getting
out of the way. They're just going to continue to
(31:52):
make it a telephone booth for you. And so kind
of realizing that I've been playing in a much much
bigger telephone booth in practice, you get this all sense
of security of oh, I got space here, I got room,
when in reality, no, you don't. And so it takes
live bullets to realize, you know, just how fast the
game is moving and how just how small that telephone
booth can get.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
He's mister Primetime now, Kirk d Cousins joining us on
the program for the last five Monday night.
Speaker 10 (32:18):
You couldn't then, I guess the tables have turned along
these lines.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
What happened?
Speaker 10 (32:22):
What I couldn't figure it out in primetime?
Speaker 11 (32:24):
And I always drugged my shoulders at both sides because
some of these Primetime wins I've had recently, I really
haven't played that that great, you know. I remember we
had won a couple of money night games at the Bears,
and I walked on the field. We won, but I
wasn't outstanding and there has been games in the past
we lost and I thought that's the best I've ever played,
So I kind of shrugged my shoulders at it.
Speaker 10 (32:41):
But I'll much rather take mister primetime than what it
used to be.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
But what is that like when you throw that interception,
that that you know you feel like, Okay, we've lost
this game, or I've cost us. That feeling of walking off,
you know, to the sidelines, going into the locker room,
you know.
Speaker 11 (33:00):
Definitely ruined my my afternoon, in my evening. Dan, it's
pretty miserable. Uh, but when you go home to the
kid's wife, Nah, No, it's there's no there's no consolation.
I was sitting there watching the Lions and Rams, and
I'm pretty miserable on Sunday night. That's honestly again, that's
the challenge I've had my whole career is how do
(33:20):
you how do you still sort of sleep at night?
How do you you know cause you're gonna fail, this
league's gonna test you. Is being able to kind of
let it roll off your back and just move forward.
For me, it's always been you just wear it so hard,
And that was something that both Sean McVay and I
used to kind of, you know, have a kindred spirit
about is it just it just eats at you, and
(33:40):
it's what it's what makes you great. It's one of
your greatest strengths. But then it can also be one
of your biggest challenges you face. And and just that
that how much it means to you something I've always
tried to kind of balance.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
But the pressure that I see on these rookie quarterbacks.
You played I think one game your rookie season, but
you know, high draft pick, come on in and let's
see some magic here.
Speaker 6 (34:01):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Bryce Young from last year, now he gets binged. I
can you can you put us in that position of
what that pressure is like for these kids?
Speaker 11 (34:11):
Yeah, it's it's it's difficult. First of all, football's a
team game. And so when you have a great system,
great coaches around you, getting people wide open, the protection
plans outstanding, you're gonna look a little better, and vice versa.
When you you know, if you got to you know people.
Speaker 10 (34:27):
Around you who aren't really helping move the needle. That
can make it a lot harder too.
Speaker 11 (34:31):
So the quarterback gets evaluated so much as if he's
on an island, when in reality, it's a team deal
and then uh, certainly as a rookie, there's gonna be
you know, a learning curve. There's gonna be things that
you've got to figure out. And then then year two
comes where defenses say, okay, we we've got a year
of film on you. Now we're gonna study you and
(34:52):
start to figure out better how to defend you. So
even once you have a good rookie year, that doesn't
suddenly mean you've got it all figured out. So it's
a marathon, not a sprint. I learned that first hand
being a fourth round pick, thinking that going to Washington
was a dead end and seeing how my career played out.
You got to play for the long game and just
believe that if you have good habits in a good process,
that the long game will work itself out.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
You got the Chiefs coming to town.
Speaker 10 (35:14):
Yep, Sunday night, Howell.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
How often do you watch the other quarterback too? Not
as a fan, but just watching during the game of
what Mahomes would do, or Brady would do, or Josh
whoever it might be.
Speaker 11 (35:31):
Well, it's funny because I remember driving home from a
game last year. We play at noon in Minnesota Central time,
so we'd be driving home at like four o'clock and
my wife, who loves following it all, said in the
cars she said, all Sunday night football this week is
Mahomes versus Stafford.
Speaker 10 (35:46):
That's gonna be great.
Speaker 11 (35:47):
It's gonna be a lot of fun or whatever the
two quarterbacks were, and I remember kind of kind of laughing.
I'm like, well, it's the Chiefs versus the Rams, it's
not Mahomes verse Stafford. But her point is is that
the quarterbacks are what makes it fun to watch. And
I would do agree with her that when you have
two really high level, experienced quarterbacks with a lot of
skins on the wall, that's what kind of draws my
(36:08):
interest the most to watch and to study and to see.
And so I think that's where football gets really fun,
is when you get those quarterbacks so you feel really
know what they're doing. It's it's really the best product.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Okay, full disclosure. I wasn't big on the uniforms, the
away uniforms, the all white with the black helmet. Yeah,
I needed I need a little more oomph in there,
a little bit more contrast in there. And I know,
if you can work this in your contract, well.
Speaker 10 (36:37):
I negotiated a lot of contracts over the years, so
I'm open to any.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
You're very good at it. You're very good at it.
I think we gotta we gotta do a little better
on the road. It just felt a little your uniforms
felt incomplete.
Speaker 11 (36:49):
See, well, I don't want I don't want incomplete uniforms.
But when I played in Michigan State, our style was
all white head to toe with with the green helmet.
And so when I came in room the other night
and saw it's going to be all white with the
black helmet, it kind of took me back to my
Michigan State days and I thought, I can I can
work with this. We had success with this in college,
so I was open to it. You know, the linemen
(37:11):
tend to like all black because black is slimming. They
do not like all white. They feel like they're walking
out there looking like the michelin Man.
Speaker 10 (37:19):
So linemen would be more in your corner. The all
white does not work for them.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
When Drake London goes to the line of scrimmage, does
he have any options thereof? I mean, the move is
incredible to score the game winner, but right, like, how
does that work? What's the play call and it's going
to him, but does he have any can he change anything?
Speaker 6 (37:43):
You know?
Speaker 11 (37:44):
So it's it's designed for him to kind of have
that basketball crossover. Drake has a basketball background and so
he has a real natural feel for how to break
down and kind of sell one way and go the
other like he's a point guard.
Speaker 10 (37:54):
And that's really what the route called for.
Speaker 11 (37:56):
And Darius Slay is such an instinctive corner and plays
with great vision, and so we knew that this route
could kind of kind of play to Darius's game where
if Drake gives that move inside, he'll he'll react and
he'll go for that big play and then we can
break back out to the front pylon. Really, the freedom
that Drake has is which angle to said do? What
does he flatten into the front pilon? Does he kind
(38:17):
of set it higher, so based on the coverage contour,
he'll change that angle. But once I saw him kind
of get Darius to bite inside, I just knew I
had to put it out to the sideline and he'll
go get it. And uh, very rarely do you get
that much separation down in the low regident. So Drake
made my jaba a lot easier.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
How where will you be where Chris Jones is, Yeah,
you have.
Speaker 10 (38:38):
To be He'll he'll wreck the game if you're not.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Could you go to the line of scrimmage? And how
often do you look for a defensive player single out
a defensive player?
Speaker 11 (38:49):
Yeah, no, I think there's a lot of awareness. Certainly
where's ninety five and and for our O line, our center,
you know that whole thing. You know, whether it's Aaron Donald,
whether it's Max Crosby, whether it's Nick bo So you know,
there's there's just over a half dozen, maybe a dozen
guys in the league like that who will wreck the
game if you don't have four hands on them as
(39:09):
many plays as possible, you know, And Chris is a
personality on the field.
Speaker 10 (39:14):
He'll make himself known.
Speaker 11 (39:15):
You know, you don't really have to go look at
for him because he's gonna he'll break the huddle he's making,
he's having a conversation. You're in a TV time out,
he's having a conversation. So they were the lineman last
year in Minnesota and we played him, were joking they said,
Chris is, you know, big personality. He's pretty friendly, he's
positive out there. But I don't really want to hear
any of it because he's ruining my day. So uh yeah,
we'll hopefully be able to corral him on Sunday. But
(39:37):
he's the real deal.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Do those guys Do you get yelled at by defensive players? Yeah?
Speaker 11 (39:43):
Usually, you know it's everything from the week one TJ
Watt after a play where you know, he does a
drive by and I kind of hear him and feel
him as I throw the ball. He'll he'll walk back
to the next play and just say, hey, what's up, Kirk,
and just kind of like he's saying hello. And then
there's other guys who you know, they may yell you
like that at me. Uh you know, you'll get guys
who have more to say. You know, Brandon Graham at
(40:04):
the coin toss, I I you know, go back to
playing in with the University of Michigan. We both grew
up in Michigan, so I've always you know, followed him
and dap him up at the coin toss and he's
gonna let me know, Hey, you know you're gonna see
me at the coin toss, but you're gonna see me
a lot this game. So he tries to you know,
kind of get in your head from the from the
coin toss. So there's always talk going.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
But you're not a trash talker.
Speaker 6 (40:24):
So my my.
Speaker 11 (40:25):
Perspective is the same perspective of most quarterbacks, which is
why in the world would I gas them up? Like,
like football is hard enough, Why in the world would
I add fuel to that fire. And sometimes I see
teammates who are adding fuel to their fire, and I
look like, oh, guys, you're not the one standing back
in the pocket that they're foaming at the mouth to
come get please stop, please stop adding fuel to their fire.
(40:47):
Do you try to be overly nice? Uh, there's a
little bit of that. I don't think there's anything wrong
with Hey, nice play, good rush?
Speaker 10 (40:56):
Uh you know, how are the wife.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
And kids good shots?
Speaker 3 (41:00):
Like that?
Speaker 2 (41:00):
You don't say a nice cheap shot?
Speaker 10 (41:02):
No, no, you just kind of try to keep it civil.
Speaker 11 (41:06):
Don't give him any additional reason that they already have
to come take your head off.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
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