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On today's Dan Patrick Show, DP explains why he loves the Jets going all in. Oregon Head Coach Dan Lanning discusses the team's big win against Ohio State. NFL Network's Tom Pelissero discusses the Lions options with Aidan Hutchinson out. Plus, RJ Choppy, host of Shan & RJ on 105.3 The Fan in Dallas, discusses what happened with Jerry Jones yesterday. 

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Guardians last night. They're up two to ozho in the series.
Tonight Dodgers at the Mets Game three. This is where
baseball is quietly rooting for Dodgers Yankees. No offense to

(01:12):
Mets and Guardians fans, but they're just playing the numbers.
They want to play the hits. They want the Yankees
and the Dodgers in the World Series. But Aaron Judge
got off the schneid, as they like to say, when
you walk Juan Soto to get to Aaron Judge and
he makes you pay. He had been Scotland, as they
like to say. But you've got the same issue with

(01:34):
shoe heey Otani with runners not in scoring position. He
has been very, very putrid so far in the playoffs.
So just some baseball there from last night with the
Mets and the Guardians, and the Yankees are up two
to oh in the series. Dodgers Mets tied at a
game apiece. The big news yesterday the Jets trading for

(01:57):
DeVante Adams and then the Bills quietly he got Amari
Cooper from the Browns. I was wondering if somebody was
going to get him. I didn't know what they're going
to sell off in Cleveland. But the headlines were stolen
by Davante Adams going to the Jets, but a Marii
Cooper is in the Hall of very Good. He's been
a really good wide receiver. He's not a number one

(02:18):
wide receiver, but he's a guy that if you're Josh Allen,
he's going to be there for you and maybe he
can be the number one wide receiver there. But I
thought that was quietly a great move by the Buffalo Bills.
Nobody has talked about this with Davante Adams, and maybe
I'm being naive the hamstring with Davante Adams. Is that

(02:39):
going to be an issue the rest of the season
or was it an issue just because he didn't want
to play for the Raiders anymore? I don't know. I
throw out these questions occasionally. Aaron Rodgers was on the
Pat McAfee show and he talked about being reunited and
it feels so good with Davonte Adams.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
Obviously, really excited, loveday. He's a phenomenal player and a
dear friend. He was a crappy day yesterday. Obviously we
had a real good chance to get to three and
three and win a home game. Kind of gave that
one away. I was pissed driving home through traffic, had
a couple of messages.

Speaker 4 (03:16):
I was just not in the mood to talk to anybody.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
Got home and Tay had called me, So I finally
called him back. And so about forty five last night
I heard the news.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
So Tay is Davante Adams and the numbers are there,
but he's still thirty two years of age. Now we
can look at the numbers and he is a Hall
of famer, at least a lot of people have said
he will be a Hall of famer. Almost eleven thousand
yards receiving. You know, a Marii Cooper is right there
at ninety seven hundred receiving yards. But you know he's

(03:51):
put up some great numbers, But so is You know,
if I look at Davonte adams fifth or sixth worst season,
that would be a more Cooper's best season. But I'm
getting a thirty two year old receiver who allegedly has
a hamstring injury. This doesn't fix everything for the Jets,
but the Jets are better today than they were the

(04:13):
day before. You upgrade your wide receiver room. You're not
scoring points. What do you have to in eighteen points
a game? That's not gonna get it done. I don't
care whose defense you have, all right, can you stop
the run? They're giving up one hundred and twenty yards rushing.
So does it help you in one situation, one category, yes,

(04:37):
but that can also lead to helping you in other categories.
If the offense is moving the ball, defense isn't on
the field. Maybe when the defense is on the field,
maybe they're a little fresher, maybe the defense is a
little better. But the upfront guys have been manhandled. Now
you got hasan Reddick who would help them since they
traded for him, they gave him the opportunity, a window

(04:59):
to seek a tree. So they're not going to improve
on the defensive line anytime soon. Those are the issues here. Now.
It still comes down to Aaron Rodgers. Because great quarterbacks
in one score games with the ball win games. Aaron
Rodgers has not done that this year. They've had opportunities.

(05:21):
They had opportunities against the Vikings, they had an opportunity
against the Bills, they had an opportunity against Denver and
he failed. Plus you know when they say, hey, there
no one to blame, well, he's been blaming people, whether
it's the kicker, the weather, Mike Williams ran the wrong
pass pattern. Like, yes, people are getting blamed. Robert Sala

(05:45):
got blamed, Nathaniel Hackett got blamed. The blame starts with Aaron.
This is his team, like there is, it's irrefutable. Now
it's Aaron's team. You want that guy got him? You
want that guy got him? You want to bring those
guys in from Green Bay gone? Maybe that guy fired.
I didn't have anything to do with it. You want

(06:05):
to fire, Well, I'm not gonna object. Okay, we're gonna fire.
Oh you want Davante? You want hey, all right, you
got him. No excuses here, but I applaud the Jets
for going all in. What's the downside to this? In
a year and a half, you're rebuilding. No matter what

(06:29):
if you win the Super Bowl this year. In a
year and a half, you're rebuilding. Rogers is gonna be
in some dark retreat somewhere in Africa. So okay, Davante
Adams will be thirty four. I mean, you're gonna have
a rebuild here, no matter how good or bad you are.
In two years, it's gonna happen. Who knows who's gonna

(06:52):
be the coach then so you go all in. You
got Davonte Adams. Great. I wouldn't stop there. I'd kick
the tires and say to the Cleveland Browns, Miles Garrett,
I'd ask the Raiders Max Crosby, you don't need draft picks.
Let's go all in and try to win. That's what
you did this year. So go all in. I don't care.

(07:19):
You got Miami down, the Patriots are down. Buffalo is
not infallible.

Speaker 5 (07:24):
They're not.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
I mean they're a good team. I don't think that
they're a scary team. You got the Chiefs and maybe
their most vulnerable year in you know how many years, well,
being undefeated, but injuries, best receiver, best running back Mahomes
has been kind of pedestrians so far. I mean, it's

(07:48):
a testament to them and Andy Reid. You know, they
somehow make it work. But this is your opportunity. So
go all in, bring in whoever you want to bring in.
But I applaud them that they did make the move
for Davante Adams.

Speaker 6 (08:05):
What do you have to lose?

Speaker 2 (08:07):
You gave up a third round pick, that maybe a
second round pick. Okay, Like, do I want Davante Adams
after this year? His salary is thirty million dollars after
this year. Even if I win, do I want him
at thirty million dollars? So the Jets got the headlines there.

(08:28):
I love what the Bills did with Amari Cooper because
I think Cooper is just solid. I know we've been
called or the dan Nets were called solid and improving
by management years ago. Yeah, but did you take it
as a compliment now? Yeah, solid and improving. That's a
former Tonic moment, former iconic moment, member of management.

Speaker 7 (08:53):
It meant it as to be so nice. Yes, you
know they're solid and improving. Hey, look at you guys,
solid and improving. It was meant to be nice.

Speaker 6 (09:01):
It's like passable. Plus you can't really dress up passable.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
So you guys were you're kind of the Amari Cooper
then of radio shows or co host You're solid and improving.
I guess does that make me Aaron Rodgers?

Speaker 8 (09:17):
Yes, Molly, that's a kind of compliment. When you say
to your wife, hey, how's it going, she says fine,
You're like, oh yeah, crap, yeah, fine is the worst
thing you get.

Speaker 7 (09:25):
You don't want that, Hey, babe, how do I look
to that? You know what solid and improving. Yeah, what
do you think of this dress? You know what is
solid and improving? Actually, okay, I.

Speaker 6 (09:36):
Guess that wouldn't work. Let's go out.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
No it won't. Oh no, it won't. Okay. Uh, Mari
Cooper came into the NFL twenty fifteen, and uh he
ranks second in receptions, third, in receiving yards first, and
receiving touchdowns. I think that's right, or unless that's uh
Davante Adams and let me see here. So second Adams.

(10:01):
Adams ranks first in the NFL and target second, in
receptions third, and receiving yards first and receiving touchdowns. Good job, damn.
Cooper ranks sixth in targets, eighth in reception, seventh in
both receiving yards and receiving touchdowns. So it's respectable. I
don't what is Amari Cooper thirty one? Does that sound right?
But DeVante Adams is thirty two years of age, and

(10:23):
I guess there's a hamstring issue to at least be
aware of.

Speaker 8 (10:26):
Yeah, no, no, that's that's where your agent says you
can't prove a hamstring. It's like when you're a kid
and you say your mom, I have a tummy ache.
You can't disprove it. He did smart business by DeVante.
You take the hamstring, you miss a few games, you
don't get hurt, and then you can't be traded. That's
an agent probably told him.

Speaker 7 (10:43):
Okay, and you're not just sitting out until you're traded.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
You're not.

Speaker 7 (10:46):
You know it's not temperature hamstring, A little tightness. Yeah,
I'm trying to get back.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
I just can't. How do you disprove a hamstring? Well,
there's probably a machine they put you on or something.
I guess there's diagnostics or something.

Speaker 9 (11:01):
They put you on it, Okay, like a car when
they plug it in.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
Yeah, it puts you up on the lift. Oh no,
come on the handstring you're lying?

Speaker 10 (11:10):
Yes, Tom, Like like light detector test, you could put
it on the part of the body that you're saying
it hurts it.

Speaker 6 (11:14):
It can just see the waves going up and down
if you're lying on you.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
Imagine if you had a show where you could put
athletes on a light detector test. Fabulous, Okay, but I
think it's just yes and no answers correct.

Speaker 9 (11:29):
Generally, Like are is your name Dan Patrick?

Speaker 6 (11:32):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (11:32):
No?

Speaker 6 (11:32):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (11:33):
No?

Speaker 6 (11:33):
All right?

Speaker 9 (11:34):
If we can save this for later.

Speaker 8 (11:36):
But the one person in sports you'd put on it,
want to put on a light detector and we're gonna
save it.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
Oh wow, I have mine?

Speaker 7 (11:42):
But can we figure that out?

Speaker 2 (11:46):
How does that work? It's it's I think it's just
yes and no answers to the questions. I think so.

Speaker 8 (11:52):
I've taken two of them for jobs, and they were
pretty standards, like have you ever been convicted of a crime?
And the only answers you can give are you yes?

Speaker 6 (12:00):
Right now?

Speaker 7 (12:00):
Take Lie detector tests for jobs?

Speaker 2 (12:03):
Yeah, yeah, twice, but not at the mother Ship No. Yeah,
because they just did a drug test there.

Speaker 6 (12:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (12:09):
I didn't.

Speaker 8 (12:09):
Actually I didn't take the drug test, and that's funny.
I would have I think I would have been clean. Yeah,
two different jobs. I took lie detectives.

Speaker 7 (12:16):
Okay, you're working for the government on the side or something.

Speaker 9 (12:18):
You know, what's going on?

Speaker 7 (12:21):
Your name is Paul, right?

Speaker 11 (12:22):
Yes?

Speaker 12 (12:23):
One?

Speaker 2 (12:23):
Yes, Tom, I'm looking at.

Speaker 5 (12:25):
Something that says.

Speaker 10 (12:26):
Lie detector tests, also known as polygraph tests, are primarily
made up of yes or no questions.

Speaker 6 (12:30):
The machine can only respond to these types of.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
Answers okay, and it is called a polly. I can
take down any light detect Somebody told me a way
to cheat this, cheat the polygraph with something in your
mouth or something. I don't know. I haven't taken a
polygraph test, lie detector test, Marvin of you, I have not,

(12:55):
okay or no. When I took my.

Speaker 8 (12:58):
First one, I was going to work at the mall,
at a clothing store, and I was like sixteen or seventeen.

Speaker 9 (13:04):
I was really shocked by that.

Speaker 8 (13:05):
They told me you got to take a lot of
detector test as if I was going to work for
you know, Raytheon or something defense contractor Yes.

Speaker 6 (13:13):
So don't let you chew gum. We're stuck at a
lifesaver re subject during a lot.

Speaker 12 (13:16):
No.

Speaker 7 (13:16):
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, that's no.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
That's not what I'm saying. That there's something that you
can put in your mouth. It's not a lifesaver chewing gum.

Speaker 6 (13:24):
Like, why would you put in your mouth?

Speaker 2 (13:25):
I just said, I don't know. I was told this.

Speaker 7 (13:29):
But when you're going for a job at Arrow Postel,
you might have to take one, though, so you better
watch out.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
When I was working at Hollister Man, I had a
lot of detectives.

Speaker 7 (13:39):
Strap these electrodes all over you.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
We got to see how likely you are.

Speaker 7 (13:44):
To pinch a pair of jeans from us.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
I always think of Meet the Fokkers, and you know
when when gay Lord Fowker is hooked up to the
machine and DeNiro is pressing him good stuff. Uh. The
head coach of the Oregon Duck, Dan Lanning, set to
join us momentarily. I like a coach who says, Hey,
what time you want me on? What time's your show? Well,

(14:07):
we're six to nine local in Eugene. Put me on
first hour. Can I be right there at the start
of the show. No, No, how about we wait about
twenty minutes, coach. So Dan Lanning, the Oregon head coach
after the big win over the Ohio State a little
later on. In or out, it's either in or out.
Also athletes that go away for a while and then

(14:29):
come back. And who's going to be a buyer, who's
going to be a seller? Any other trades to keep
an eye on. We'll have that for you coming up
as well. Just getting started here on the on this Wednesday.
We're back after this Dan Patrick Show.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
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Speaker 2 (14:53):
Your phone calls will be welcome eight seven to seven
to three DP show. We will settle on a pull
question as well as we bring in the head coach
of the Oregon Ducks, Dan Lanning. Congratulations coach, how did
you celebrate after the win against Ohio State?

Speaker 4 (15:08):
We started recruiting.

Speaker 13 (15:09):
We had a bunch of kids on campus, so we
spent a ton of time with the people that came
to see us, and those are a lot of miles
around the building, but it was time.

Speaker 4 (15:18):
To try to figure out a way to help get
our team better.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
Kind Of tricky though, when you bring in recruits and
you have a big game like that, it could go
bad and they're right there to watch, you know, right
in front of the home Crown.

Speaker 12 (15:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (15:30):
I mean, ultimately, part of what makes Addson so amazing
is our fans, the game day experience, and when you're
playing two great teams and you know, things can go
different directions. It is about creating that environment and recognizing
they can be the difference or they can be a
part of what you're building too. So I think players
recognize that and we try to take advantage every moment

(15:51):
like that we can.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
Yeah, there are places that may have eighty ninety one
hundred thousand, but I would put sixty thousand in Eugene
up against hundred thousand or ninety thousand any place else.
All right, let me get the twelve men on the
field thing out of the way first, because we brought
it up on Monday that we thought you did it intentionally.
I didn't hear anything with that because it made sense.

(16:14):
But are there two different twelve men on the field
penalties though that you can incur.

Speaker 4 (16:22):
When you say they're two different? Tell me what you mean.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
Well, let's say somebody's running off the field, or there's
a play that's called in somebody in twelve guys are
on the field. Is there different penalties for those twelve
men on the field if you're aware of that?

Speaker 4 (16:39):
Not as I understand it.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
Noo, okay, So what do you know about it? Like?
What what was your interpretation of it? And was it
on purpose?

Speaker 13 (16:48):
I spent I probably spent soo much time on this
on Monday, and I know what answers we're looking for here,
But I got my dancing issues on this morning dance.

Speaker 4 (16:57):
I'm not going to get into great depth.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
On Wait, wait, wait, wait, why why I thought it?
I thought it was brilliant coaching.

Speaker 13 (17:03):
Well, I mean, I think you I've paid attention to
a lot of situations like that. I always think about
the forty nine Ers raven Super Bowl, right, and the
holding penalty at the end of the game to run
the clock out. I think as defensive coaches, you're always
trying to find ways to take advantage of the rules
that exist.

Speaker 4 (17:19):
And we have an unbelievable staff.

Speaker 13 (17:22):
We spend a lot of time on a lot of
different situations, and when things are in place, you want
to try to be able to take advantage of them.
But I've asked my staff, I've asked our players. Hey,
Ohio State game, that was awesome. We're on a short week.
We got Purdue this week. Let's move on to Purdue.
So I'm gonna challenge myself to do the same thing.
But I expected you to ask about it.

Speaker 4 (17:41):
For sure.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
We're going to make twelfth man T shirts? Is that okay?

Speaker 4 (17:48):
You're welcome to do whatever you're welcome to do.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
Take a victory lap. I thought it was Bellacheckian type thing,
or you know John Harball with the Ravens. That's I
mean sab and esque you did. You did something that
was pretty smart in that situation. So okay, we'll move
on from it. You don't want to take credit, you
don't want to take blame, you don't want to take anything.

Speaker 13 (18:14):
So except then the head coach gets far too much
credit when things go right. I didn't play a single
snap on Saturday, not one snap. I wasn't in there
at all. So our players, our staff unbelievable. They do
a you know, a tremendous job in this place, makes
it really special for us.

Speaker 4 (18:32):
Our fans were a big part of that game.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
Okay, I know, I know, I know. Okay, one more thing.
Was there a member of your staff who got a
pat on the back for the twelfth man on the field?

Speaker 13 (18:41):
Can we just we were giving out tons of pats
on the back. There were a lot of pats on
the back. Yeah, and sharing and some other things my
mom probably doesn't want to hear, you know.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
The travel back and forth cross country, I mean, it's
going to be there, you know, in a big ten
and we've seen teams that go from east to west
who normally don't too well. How do you coach, how
do you factor that into your coaching.

Speaker 13 (19:08):
Yeah, I think for us it is just a learning
experience and you have to spend as much time probably
quality controlling that experience as you do just the game itself.

Speaker 4 (19:19):
Okay, what went really well with the travel? How can
we do it better? How can we.

Speaker 13 (19:22):
Put our players in position? I spent some time talking
to coach Savid about this. Okay, when's the right time
to travel? Do you do it before you walk through
in the morning, do you do it after if you're
going to the East Coast is a different than the
West Coast, And talking to NFL teams, I think we
have to learn it and figure it out. But we
always talk about, hey, put the ball down on the
turf and we'll go play. So it doesn't really matter
where it's at, and we have to be the best

(19:43):
of adapting. But I'm excited about the challenge that that
presents for our team.

Speaker 7 (19:47):
What's your role in the uniforms that your kids wear?

Speaker 4 (19:51):
I just have veto power.

Speaker 13 (19:52):
Really, I don't want more than that. You know, my
wife and our family get to be a big part
of the design. Two weeks ago, when we did our
cancer awareness uniforms, that was something that was something I
was a part of but generally they'll flash it up
in front of me and say are you okay? And
there's every once in a while I'll say, hey, that's
a little extreme. Maybe we can maybe we can take

(20:12):
that that out.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
But very rarely Wait wait, wait, what's extreme for Oregon football? Uh?

Speaker 4 (20:21):
I mean, I don't know that it's happened, Dan, let
me just say it's happened.

Speaker 13 (20:25):
Okay, But no, there's just some things where were like, okay,
let's purn it back and make it about the game
and not just the uniform.

Speaker 4 (20:31):
But that's something that.

Speaker 13 (20:33):
I remember as a GA in Arizona State when we
played Oregon and Marcus Mariota is running all over us
and those helmets are like mirrors, and I'm like, it's
it's bad enough the guy's running for four hundred dollars
to reflection in his helmet.

Speaker 4 (20:49):
You know, it's pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
What's the what's the thing you took away from Nick
Saban that you're able to utilize on a daily like,
let let's just say one thing. What would it be
on a daily basis or you know, on game day.

Speaker 13 (21:03):
Yeah, the preparation and consistency from coach Sabans is so amazing.
I always said, Hey, the sun's coming up in tuscalous
to tomorrow at this time. Nick Saban's gonna walk in
the building at this time. There's gonna be a staff,
mean at seven thirty at this time, and it's like clockwork,
it's gonna happen. The consistency, the approach, the work ethic

(21:24):
was really really impressive. But I always felt like he
was able to analyze the situation and figure out, Okay,
how can we do this better? And he never wanted
to walk in to a situation where not enough bullets
in the chamber. You always wanted to have an answer,
even if we didn't utilize that answer, and even if
it wasn't something he necessarily agreed with. It didn't matter
if you were a janitor or a ga in the

(21:45):
corner room. If you had a piece of information that
could make him better, he wanted to know.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
It.

Speaker 4 (21:49):
Didn't mean he was gonna utilize it, but he wanted
to know about it.

Speaker 13 (21:51):
You know, notorious for bringing guys into interview to find
out what they know you know, and what they how
they can help him be better at the game.

Speaker 4 (21:59):
So obviously the best to ever do it.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
Yeah, because like, let's say, you know, the plumber says, hey,
you know, I got an idea about a twelve man
on the field situation. Coach, do you want to hear it?
You of course would listen to the janitor around school, right.
Playing on a Friday night though, that's different. So Friday night,

(22:22):
I know. But once again, the preparation, then the travel
avoiding a letdown, you know, let run me through. But
you know what the preparation is with this.

Speaker 13 (22:34):
Yeah, I mean, so we've experienced it once before already
with Michigan.

Speaker 4 (22:37):
A little bit different than it's an away game, you know,
for us.

Speaker 13 (22:40):
And I'll say this, I think this produde team that
we're about to play is completely different than the team
that started the season.

Speaker 4 (22:45):
You look at what they're able to do against Illinois
last week.

Speaker 13 (22:48):
You got their head coach who's a defensive guy calling
plays now, and Ryan Walters is a really good coach,
and they have a spark, they have some life. But
you have to you have to take away something. So
we eliminate our mondayctice. Monday becomes a Tuesday, Tuesday becomes
a Wednesday, Wednesday today becomes a Thursday practice and then
travel again.

Speaker 4 (23:08):
Is a little bit different, so you kind of eliminate
a day. You try to get ahead.

Speaker 13 (23:11):
You probably spend a little less time putting the last
game to bed, and then when you get a chance,
you go back and try to put you know, the
last game to bed the right way on Saturday, so
we'll get a catchup.

Speaker 4 (23:21):
Day the day after when everybody else is playing football.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
He's the head coach at Oregon, Dan Lanning. But do
you look at the first half of Purdue Illinois or
the second half of Purdue Illinoisit like which one you
know stands out?

Speaker 4 (23:36):
Well? I think you look at it all.

Speaker 13 (23:37):
You look at it all, and if you really look
close to the first half, you'll see there was a
lot of success that maybe just didn't relate to success
as plics on the board. You know, there's some things
that went right that that didn't equate to points on
the board. But that doesn't mean that it wasn't position
to be a successful play.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
All right, before I let you go, let's go around
the room. We'll play the what time did coach Lanning
wake up this morning?

Speaker 5 (23:59):
Todd?

Speaker 2 (23:59):
I'll start with you exact time when the alarm goes off.
He probably doesn't even have an alarm. Todd three forty
five local time, Seaton say, five fifteen, five fifteen, sleep in, okay,
Marvin four thirty All right, Paulie five fifteen.

Speaker 8 (24:16):
He's already got a lift in and probably some bread.
Oh yeah, yeah, I got the exact time on the
clock is four forty am.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
I was going to do four forty seven this morning?
What time did Coach Landing wake up?

Speaker 4 (24:28):
All right? You just you just revealed me here I am.
I'm super guilty. I'm the guy that has a lot.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
Oh my god.

Speaker 6 (24:37):
Yeah, I've problem.

Speaker 4 (24:38):
I got a problem.

Speaker 13 (24:39):
So I and the way you do anything, the way
you do everything, I've got a problem when it comes
like I know that I have to get up, and
then I know when I want my body to start
waking up. So I'm this snooze button guy. And that's bad.
I know that's bad. So I start my my alarms
at like four thirty, But when I actually get out
of the bed, it's probably four fifty four fifty five five.

Speaker 4 (25:01):
It's never uh, it's.

Speaker 13 (25:02):
Never the first one. It's like, that's my all right,
this is the get out of the zone one.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
So disappointment, coach you had about fifteen alarm set.

Speaker 12 (25:10):
There.

Speaker 13 (25:12):
I have a lot of alarm set and then my wife,
she gets kind of frustrated with that. You can imagine
how annoying that might be. But this is the sacrifices
she makes. And then every once in a while I'll
be like, Sophia, I need you to set this one
because this is the this is the.

Speaker 4 (25:28):
One, like I have to be up at this time.

Speaker 13 (25:31):
Not let me sleep past five fifteen, don't let me
sleep past five twenty. So yeah, yeah, we're we're up
just a little bit before five this morning.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
Congrats on the wind and safe travels to Purdue. Thank you, coach,
Thank you, Dan, appreciate it. That's Dan Lanning, third year
at Oregon, former Georgia defensive coordinator. Friday night lights at
Purdue and then at Michigan. That will be beginning of
November at the Big House. Don't think he wanted to

(26:00):
talk any more about the twelfth man I said at
the time, I said on Monday, mark my words. This
rule will be changed next season. I just got word
yesterday that the NCAA is looking at this rule because
it does benefit the defensive team. You have the offensive
team run time off the clock. And therefore they didn't

(26:23):
have enough time for their quarterback Will Howard to slide
and call a timeout. So they did benefit. But it
feels like the coach knows he got away with one there.
But I mean that's what Bill Belichick would do or
John Harbaugh would do, like they would find something where
they go, you know what. I don't know if anybody's
really used this before, but they used it to their advantage.

Speaker 8 (26:44):
Yeah, paulin So a few years ago, when you had
twelve men on the field before the play and it
was called, they would put the time back on the
clock like it's a dead play. And a few years
ago I don't have the exact year. If they let
the place be snapped and then you got called for
the penalty, they don't return and the seconds on the clock,
that's one of the big angles of this.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
Well that's what I was bringing up to him. I
didn't know if there were two different penalties.

Speaker 8 (27:08):
Yeah, And if you have a person running off the
field and the paul has n't been snapped, you could
be called. So there are like a couple of different
angles of this point.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
Okay, all right, oh you asked it right, Yeah, I
know what I'm talking about maybe coach learned something there.
They could have called that penalty and then maybe they
don't have the time run off the clock. Yes, Tom, well,
he did.

Speaker 6 (27:28):
Know exactly what you were talking. I don't know what
you mean by two various different twelve.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
I'm going to guess he did know. I'm good to
guess he did know. I'm going to guess there's some
staffer that was walking around, probably got a game ball. Yeah. Hey,
that that's the loophole guy right there. We call him
Lou Hey. Lou Christa in Delaware leads us off this morning. Hi, Krista, Hey, I.

Speaker 12 (27:54):
Just wanted to point out that nobody got that I
was being taunted all Ohio State, down to being taunted
with the sweatshirt that Dan Lanning was wearing. If you
look at it, it is an h I oh.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
Oh it is.

Speaker 12 (28:11):
Yes.

Speaker 5 (28:13):
Oh wow.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
You know what I asked Fritzi, I said, what is that?
And he said, it just looks like Oregon duck stuff.

Speaker 6 (28:20):
It looked like.

Speaker 10 (28:20):
Various logos and colors of Oregon.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
Maybe maybe you could have asked him for me.

Speaker 6 (28:26):
I could have done a little research there.

Speaker 12 (28:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
I don't know, but Krista didn't sound too happy there.

Speaker 14 (28:33):
Yes, Mark, No, that's one of the most beautiful hoodies
I've ever seen in my life. It's actually the back
of Air Jordan Force with different Oregon logos on the
backs of them.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
Okay, so it's not Ohio State is not. He is
not trolling Ohio State.

Speaker 6 (28:46):
It is not. But if they can send one, yeah, four.

Speaker 9 (28:49):
This is Marvin's lane by the way.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
Oh, I know it's your largest grade.

Speaker 6 (28:52):
Yeah, it's large. I mean those things were beautiful to.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
Okay, So Krista will explore it. We'll get some of
our best people on this, all right, thank you. Yeah,
I just thought it was just logos with the Oregon ducks.

Speaker 7 (29:05):
Marvin did. As soon as he popped up. Marvin was
like you did you see that hoodie?

Speaker 2 (29:09):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (29:10):
He was right on top of beautiful.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
Okay, So those are Air Jordan related.

Speaker 14 (29:13):
Yes, they're the backs of Air Jordan Force and it
has different organ you know Phil Knight, Yeah, Chef's kiss.

Speaker 8 (29:22):
Yeah, wow, Marvin's laneing on thick Wow.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
Good poll.

Speaker 10 (29:27):
Yes, do you really think Dan Lanning would or any
head coach would do something like that on a national
TV interview and do something that we even remotely be
considered trolling a team, especially like the Buckeyes.

Speaker 6 (29:36):
I'd be hard.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
Well, now, I wish he would have you know, I
like the mystery that was out there was Dan Lanning
trolling Ohio State fans. Now Marvin kind of blew the
cover off of it.

Speaker 7 (29:47):
Yeah, are we suggesting that college football coaches don't use
every opportunity to make their program look great and make
other programs look terrible?

Speaker 2 (29:56):
But he told us that he was moving on. He did,
you know he was done talking about the twelfth man
on the field.

Speaker 7 (30:01):
Hey man, how'd you celebrate that recruited Yeah, we jumped
right in there. You see what we just did to
Ohio State.

Speaker 5 (30:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (30:06):
I got Purdue coming up Friday night.

Speaker 8 (30:08):
Yes, Paul, Yeah, if I were coach Landing, I would
have had the twelve guys who were on the field
standing behind me at six am during the interview.

Speaker 9 (30:14):
Let's rub it in. Let's go that's a huge win.
They're scheduled the rest of the year. They're in fantastic shape.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
Organ Yeah, but you don't want to have those every team.
I don't care how good you are. You have one
of those games, and you know, is it at Michigan.
I mean, obviously Michigan's down this year.

Speaker 8 (30:32):
They're at Michigan, they got Purdue Illinois home at Michigan,
Maryland at home, at Wisconsin, Washington at home.

Speaker 9 (30:42):
That's serviceable.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
Yeah, you can run the table. Yeah. Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
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Speaker 2 (30:58):
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Pelsero NFL Network Insider. You can see him on The
Insiders tonight. It's seven Eastern on NFL Network. Was it
the Jets are bust for Davante Adams and the Raiders?

Speaker 5 (31:20):
Dan?

Speaker 15 (31:20):
It certainly seemed to evolve that direction through the course
of the past several weeks. Davante Adams always wanted to
reunite with Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers was actively recruiting Davante Adams,
and I think that there's a good possibility that if
Rogers doesn't get hurt for snaps into last season, this

(31:40):
this entire storyline happens. Adams went to Las Vegas for
a lot of different reasons. He was a grew up
as a Raiders fan. He wanted to live there, he
built the house there. But he also wanted to be
back together with Derek Carr. Well Carr gets benched with
a couple of games to go in the twenty twenty
two season, ends up getting cut, moves on to the Saints.
It was Jimmy Garoppolo and then by adams admission, he

(32:00):
signed off on the move. They aid O'Connell. Then this
year it's Gardner Minshew. There were just moving parts to
the quarterback position. There were moving parts obviously with the
coaching staff there. It was a matter of when not if.
It definitely got accelerated by a certain instagram, like by
the current head coach of the Raiders. But we were
always going to get to this point, you know. The
Raiders their complication was just trying to get value without

(32:24):
paying any money because those were their requirements in the deal.
In the end, they didn't get the second round pick,
but they got a third rounder that can become a
two if everything goes right here for DeVante Adams and
the Jets, and they also offloaded eleven point six million
dollars in cash and cap this year, which is a
place that even if Adams would have been willing to
go to another team, there were other teams involved in

(32:45):
the process that just couldn't pay that money.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
What role do you think Tom Brady played in this deal?

Speaker 15 (32:52):
Well, to hear Mark Davis talk about Tom Brady now
being a part of the organization, not just as a
guy who owns five percent of the team, but as yesterday.
But well, Tom can't play anymore because of the NFL
rules now you can't have an employee that owns pieces
the team, and Mark Civilly can't. He can't play quarterback,
but he can help us find the next quarterback and
maybe train him. When's the last time you heard that

(33:13):
the a minority owner was going to be training and
identifying the next quarterback of the team. It's very evident
that Tom Brady is going to be really, really involved
in personnel operations right now. Tom Telesco is the general manager.
He's in communication with Mark Davis. It was Mark Davis,
you know, making abundantly clear that they were not going
to pay money here on DeVante Adams. I would certainly

(33:34):
anticipate and Mark Davis has always done this. Dan, He's
always leaned on a lot of his former players that
he's had in front office rules or informal advisor rules
to the team over the years. Now you happen to
have the greatest player who's ever done it. But you know,
let's be honest here, this was about DeVante Adams driving this,
wanting to go to New York, the Raiders setting a price,

(33:55):
and then over the past couple of weeks here as
the talks progress, the Jets were willing to up the
anti though they didn't get to the full second round pick.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
Conflict of interest with Tom Brady as a broadcaster as
an owner. The NFL, I know had some stipulations here,
But do you see any potential red flags down the road.

Speaker 15 (34:15):
Well, there were teams that specifically raised this issue and
voiced it to the entire membership. That's part of the
reason why it took a year for Tom Brady to
get approved.

Speaker 4 (34:25):
In addition to.

Speaker 15 (34:26):
Just the valuation that he was going to pay on
that five ten percent, if you include his partner's share,
you know, the issue becomes if you have a member
of an organization, a part owner who is in these
production meetings on Friday and Saturday. You're given a lot
of information, and there's a trust factor involved there. I
don't think that anybody sits back and goes tom Brady's
going to leak that to the op position. But a

(34:48):
lot of people within the league uncomfortable. So Brady has
not been in to my understanding, these production meetings. Certainly,
different teams can set their own guardrails of what he's
allowed to see. You know, because normally the broadcasters are
at the entire practice on Fridays, they get to see
stuff that even the normal media doesn't. I'm sure there's
some people in the league who are probably like, it's
Tom Brady who cares, or I know him personally here,

(35:10):
He's not going to screw me on this. Those are
teams that are going to follow the the letter.

Speaker 5 (35:14):
Of the law.

Speaker 15 (35:15):
But you know, I've consumed a decent amount d and
of tom Brady broadcasting. I think that from the first game,
where it was fairly apparent that he was a little nervous,
and you know, it's the first time you probably remember this,
you know, your first time on Sports Center with producers
talking in your ear and trying to figure out and
the rhythm of it's just different, even if you've done
different levels of stuff. You know, it was the first
time for him. I think he's gotten better and better.

(35:36):
And you know, when you have that volume of his
history here, you don't necessarily need to relate the anecdote
to what the offensive coordinator told you the day before.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
What are the Browns doing?

Speaker 15 (35:46):
The Browns are trying to find answers right now. You
know the Amari Cooper trade. You know, let's zoom zoom
out for a second here, because the Bills were involved
in the DeVante Adams trade. They they the Steelers, the Aints,
the Jets. There were a lot of teams that were
interested in it. But when I mentioned the Raiders not
wanting to eat money, the Bills couldn't pay eleven point

(36:07):
six million. Yeah, you can move things around cap wise
and whatnot, but they simply didn't have the cap space
because you have to have the cap space on hand
to absorb the initial trade even before you do a
restructure like the Jets did yesterday. So with Amari Cooper,
the Browns not only had adjusted his contract, added some
incentives in training camp way back in March, they've converted

(36:27):
almost nineteen million dollars to his twenty million dollars salary
into a signing bonus, which meant that it dropped his
cap number down, But it also means the Bills are
getting them for like eight hundred thousand dollars right now.
So when we're sitting here and I know that, you know,
there's a natural comparison of three years ago, the Cowboys
trade them for a fifth round pick, and now all
of a sudden, the Bills are giving up a third
rounder to get them. Well, part of that is the

(36:49):
fact that the Cowboys are ready to cut them. The
Cowboys told of Mary Cooper, we're going to release you,
and then teams started calling them. Twenty million dollars was
big receiver money at that time. Now it's much less,
but you're talking about an eight hundred thousand dollars player.
It's basically a minimum contract. It is a minimum contract
for the rest of this season. You know, that's part
of the reason that the Bills were willing to give

(37:11):
up what they did for Maury Cooper in terms of
what this means for Cleveland. They've got a quarterback and
I know that the ringer did you know a really
good breakdown looking at a lot of the efficiency numbers
and EPA and first downs per pass and whatnot, And
any time that Deshaun Watson or any quarterbacks name is
being put on a list in all these different categories
with the likes of JaMarcus Russell two thousand and two,

(37:32):
David Carr, Jimmy Clausen, like, this is not company that
you want to be in right now. You know, there's
certainly been conversation about should there be a play calling change,
could there be various changes in terms of the coaching staff.
You can't forget that they went from the best offensive
line coach in the league in Bill Callahan to a
guy and Andy Dickerson who just that volume of experience,

(37:54):
but they're still committed to putting Deshaun Watson on the field.
Something had to change. You get Nick Chubb back this week.
I think the Browns Dan are on that list of
teams right now that aren't in full fire sale mode.
I don't believe, based on my conversations that anybody is
really there yet, but there are teams that are in
that one or two in category. They're probably teetering on
the brink. The trade deadline got pushed back a week

(38:17):
it's now November fifth. It's the most significant thing happening
in this country. On November fifth. You got three games
now instead of two to kind of figure out are
we buyers? Are we sellers? Are we big time sellers?
And that's an ongoing conversation in a lot of buildings
right now.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
Talking to Tom Pelisero, NFL Network insider, which brings me
to the Lions. If you're Lions, can you kick the
tires on Max Crosby, Miles Garrett? I know the Raiders
said that, you know Max Crosby was off limits, but
are the Lions going to be able to do something
to try to replace Aiden Hutchinson.

Speaker 15 (38:53):
My understanding, Dan is they are tires. They are exploring
and talking about different options on other rosters that might
feel make them better short term, like for this week,
they're focused on just elevating guys, adding people to the
practice squad. I know they signed a guy named Isaiah
Thomas of all things off the Cincinnati practice squad, So
Isaiah Thomas back in Detroit. That's where they're focused right now,

(39:16):
is about the collective and giving guys opportunities here. But
I've I've learned some things Dan in twenty plus years
covering this league, and I think that it's really changed
even over the last five to ten years, where you
had this younger generation of GMS, some of whom may
or may not have grown up playing Madden. There's more
pressure than ever to win right now. There's more critical thinking,

(39:37):
there's more analytics involved, all of which is to say,
there's really only maybe a dozen players in the entire
league who are absolutely no chance he's not getting traded.
And that's you're talking about like the Patrick Mahomes, Lamar
Jackson since he signed the contract extension, Josh Allen, Justin
Jefferson type players.

Speaker 12 (39:56):
In the world.

Speaker 4 (39:57):
Everybody else.

Speaker 15 (39:58):
It's like, there's probably a price that you could get
them for. You know, you have to take into consideration here,
things like the Raiders just paid Max Crosby again, so
what are the cap implications of that. Miles Garrett is
at a point in his contract where, even though he's
got several years remaining, he's probably in line for a
new deal sooner than later. Here, I would think if
you're Brad Holmes and you know he's got John Dorsey

(40:20):
on that staff as well. These guys know a lot
of people within the league, you put out feelers, you
see who potentially could become available. You're anticipating you get
Aiden Hutchinson back in twenty twenty five, maybe even long
shot chance that you get deep in the playoffs. Maybe
Aiden Hutchinson can come back right around the Super Bowl here,
So you have one of the best players in the league.

(40:40):
You have to take that into consideration in terms of
just like managing your cap and whatnot. But this is
a Lion's team that sees a window. They think they've
got a chance to win right now. Why wouldn't you
call on every pass rusher in the league other than
maybe you know guys who are on your division rivals
and just say, hey, do we have a possibility getting
something done here.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
Good to talk to you again, Tom, Thanks for joining us,
Thanks as always for having me down. That's Sam Pelasero,
NFL Network Insider, and you could see more of him
the inciters tonight at seven eastern on NFL Network. Fresh
in Milwaukee joins us Hi. Fresh, what's on your mind today?

Speaker 12 (41:14):
What is up?

Speaker 16 (41:15):
DP?

Speaker 12 (41:19):
Man?

Speaker 17 (41:19):
You gotta tell me what's going on with the Dallas
Cowboys and how to fix us man.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
I don't have enough time, and I don't know if
you can be fixed.

Speaker 12 (41:32):
That might be true. Also Part two DP, Come on man,
where the love at for the Isley Brothers album since
the fifties? Are they considered to be one of the
greatest groups? Can we get some love? Uh?

Speaker 2 (41:44):
Sure, I'll give you a love to the Isley Brothers.

Speaker 6 (41:48):
Yes, great American bands I think he was talking about.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
Yeah, yeah, sure, you want to put him in there.
One of the greatest bands? Ah sure, yes, Bony.

Speaker 9 (41:58):
Wouldn't they be a duo?

Speaker 8 (42:00):
Have a separate category the Isley Brothers.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
No, there's how many members in the band?

Speaker 12 (42:05):
Hall?

Speaker 7 (42:06):
Five or six?

Speaker 2 (42:07):
Yeah, there's a few.

Speaker 14 (42:08):
Oh yeah, I think a few have died off since
shout something.

Speaker 6 (42:20):
A little bit.

Speaker 7 (42:21):
No, did you guys ever go to a toga party?

Speaker 2 (42:24):
Yeah? In college? Yeah, that was kind of a big deal. Yeah,
looking back, it's pretty stupid.

Speaker 12 (42:31):
It was.

Speaker 5 (42:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
Yeah, you're like, you can't get in you don't you
don't have a toga on like, okay, yeah, Paul.

Speaker 8 (42:40):
We had a few in high school, and it always
felt like we're already in sheets. Like you're talking to
a girl who's wearing a sheet.

Speaker 9 (42:45):
You're wearing a sheet.

Speaker 8 (42:45):
You feel like you're closer to you know where you
want to be, but you really nothing ever actually happened.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
Okay, Uh Colby in Mississippi, Hi Colby, Hey.

Speaker 17 (42:55):
Dan, Hey Cole, thank you for having me on the show.
I just wanted to set the record straight about the cowbell.
It is definitely started at Mississippi State. The origin according
to the lore, here, a cow wandered onto the field
during the middle of a game somewhere between the nineteen
thirties and the nineteen forties, which we ultimately ended up winning,
and it just became a tradition to ring the cowbell.

Speaker 18 (43:17):
Okay, bar game from then.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
I had Dak Prescott who signed a cow bell for
me years ago. It's somewhere around my desk here, you
guys see it.

Speaker 6 (43:29):
Where is that?

Speaker 2 (43:30):
It might be on the back bar? Who knows, I
should know where? You know the inventory here, but I
know there's there's a there's like a Pike's Peak cowbell
that's on the back bar, but that's that's not the
one I remember. Dak Prescott signed my cow bell. Mike
and Michigan. Hi Mike, what's on your mind today?

Speaker 12 (43:53):
Hey Dan?

Speaker 11 (43:53):
How you doing great?

Speaker 12 (43:55):
Time?

Speaker 11 (43:55):
Long time?

Speaker 7 (43:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (43:57):
Six pretty active. Hey, got an idea for your T
shirt as somebody that used to live in Oregon, but
I love to see the Ducks get beat. I think
we need a T shirt with ducks and the formation
of the twelve players from Oregon on the front with

(44:17):
little ducks.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
Yeah, yeah, we brought that up. We were gonna use ducks.
I think we're talking the same miss that one. Yeah yeah, okay, Mike, Yeah,
we were going to show the formation with ducks.

Speaker 7 (44:30):
Great minds, huh yeah, twelve minds.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
Yeah, twelve ducks on the field. Yes, Paul.

Speaker 8 (44:34):
Going back to the cow bell at Mississippi State, He's right.
Cole wandered out of the field, which seems odd. What
happened was before the cow bell started, people students started
bringing cows to games to the tailgates outside the stadium.
Then they outlawed that, so they start bringing cow bells.
Back in the sixties, a couple MSU professors took the
cow bell and welded a handle to them and start

(44:57):
passing them out the students. This caught on happened for
a lot of years. In nineteen seventy four, the Southeastern
Conference adopted a rule against all artificial noisemakers at football
games and basketball.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
Games because the cow used to wear the bell, right,
or maybe still does wear the bell, but then they
added the handle to the cowbell.

Speaker 9 (45:14):
It was a nine to one vote. Guess who voted
against it.

Speaker 8 (45:17):
SEC Schools rules cow bells a disruption and banned them. However,
in twenty ten SEC revisited the topic of cow bells
and allowed just Mississippi State to ring bells during pregame timeouts,
in halftime and after a bulldog's score.

Speaker 9 (45:29):
They do them whatever they want.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
Okay, no, maybe they could sue Texas A and m Yes.

Speaker 10 (45:36):
Un the cows themselves like it too. They took a vote,
they raised their hoofs and there was like unanimous Oh.

Speaker 6 (45:40):
Okay, that's cool right they were a boy.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
Thank you, Ton, Michael and Phoenix. Hi Mike, what's on
your mind today?

Speaker 18 (45:47):
Good morning, Dan in the plasse. I'm the guy who
sent here in the pike steek cow bell. I want
this last year, I almost sent you floido. Okay, yeah,
because that's how we start to stay just so. I
called in because I'm hearing some rumors on some of
the San Francisco YouTube channels that slow might go back

(46:09):
to the San Francisco Niners.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
Yeah, I could see that.

Speaker 18 (46:12):
I want, yeah see what was what your thoughts on
that was?

Speaker 2 (46:15):
Well, he's he's a great defensive coordinator. I have you know,
Kyle Shanahan, you can bring him back. Sure I would.

Speaker 6 (46:25):
Defense wasn't the problem.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
Not in New York. No, well it was. There was
a problem with the defensive line. But you know the
defense was a bend not break mode. You know they
were keeping the Jets into games.

Speaker 6 (46:39):
Yes, they lost the game ten to nine. I know
they did.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
I know, I know they did. Curtis in Illinois, like Curtis,
what's on your mind? More DP?

Speaker 19 (46:50):
I can't believe Fritzy missed this one with his Guardians
a Galaxy joke, but I think the Guardians sound more
like a simply safe employee than a baseball team.

Speaker 12 (46:59):
Uh.

Speaker 19 (47:00):
But if Devonte the Jets, I think is good just
for that one sideline back shoulder catch he's going to
get every game. But I think it's kind of weird
the Raiders are saying Max Crosby isn't available. I think
it's obviously just to drive up his price, because they
can't be any good reason to really keep him on
a five hundred team at best. I just want to
see what I think.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
I agree. I've been saying all along, I would I
would be calling the Raiders and saying, all right, what's it.
If I'm the Lions, you know, Aiden Hutchinson's going into
the locker room. I'm on the phone with the Raiders. Hey,
what's it. What's it going to take to get Max
Crosby played his college ball in Michigan. Let's bring him back.
What's it going to call it? First? And second? Now,

(47:40):
I don't know, you know, he's going to be expensive,
but he's great. He's one of my favorite players, just
because that dude does not take a playoff. They'd love
him in Detroit. And then you kind of, you know,
you'll figure it out when Aiden Hutchinson comes back. But well,
that's a great problem to have. I don't know where
do we put him? Wherever they want to play? Line

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them up?

Speaker 8 (48:02):
Yes, Pauling, the Raiders paid a lot of Max Crosby's bonus,
so his contract is really close to about twenty seven
million dollars a year. It's not horrendous and surprisingly, the
Lions are the sixth ranked team in the league and
current salary cap availability.

Speaker 9 (48:15):
Ok, they're in decent shape.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
All right, Okay, it makes a lot of sense. So
you're saying there's a possibility, Yeah, I would certainly, i'd
call the Browns for Miles Garrett. It's like, you never know,
so why not try? See I never followed this philosophy
in high school. You know that girl? Should I call her? No,

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She's just gonna say no. So you know you miss
one hundred percent of the putts that you leave short.

Speaker 6 (48:48):
That's very well said.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
Yeah, yeah, just letting you know.

Speaker 6 (48:52):
Yeah, so why wouldn't we more? Why would we so
shy back then? Just go for it? Because it's going
to be no anyway if you don't do anything.

Speaker 10 (48:58):
And what if that one in a million chan some
hot cheerleader says, yeah, I'll go out with your Friday night.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
I because I look at myself back then and I go,
thank God, I didn't do that, Like, what would I
be thinking? Nobody They're gonna go, oh my god, what's
wrong with you?

Speaker 7 (49:14):
Yes, it's because the fear of humiliation is one of
the most powerful things you have.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
Well, it doesn't prevent Todd. That does not No, he
has no fear of humiliating.

Speaker 10 (49:25):
Well, looking back, I wish there was several girls I
was attracted, but I would said anything about it. But
I know is the same as not asking. So it's
a push and you don't do it in front of
a bunch of other people. And hopefully she won't run
to her friends and say, I can't believe Todd asked
me out, Tell everyone how ridiculous we're just friend.

Speaker 8 (49:39):
Yes, Paul, here's the reason you didn't do in high
school because the next day you have to see that person,
and the next day and the next day, and it
gets around. You asked out her and she said no.
It doesn't stay secret. If you're twenty five and you're
at a bar and you ask a girl out and
she says no, you go to the next bar.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
You go to the next I couldn't even do that.
I didn't have any game. Zero zero would never make
the call.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
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Speaker 2 (50:18):
Update the poll results if you can, Seaton, sure can.

Speaker 7 (50:21):
We got a whole bunch of jets poll questions going today.
All right, the last twenty four hours for the Jets
have been about ninety percent bad, not great. How much
better does DeVante Adams make the Jets somewhat at eighty
four percent over significantly better? And we also have up
there three years from now, three years in. How are

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we feeling about the name Guardians? They'll super lame.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
What if you said, who will be more impactful the
rest of the season, Davante Adams or Amuri Cooper? How
about that one?

Speaker 7 (50:55):
Okay, okay, okay, maybe we can do that.

Speaker 2 (50:58):
We can do that, all right. We played a portion
of an interview. Jerry Jones does a weekly interview on
the flagship station for the Dallas Cowboys, and he does
that every Tuesday one oh five point three the fan.
I want to play you the question that was asked.
I want to put everything in context here. So here's
the question that was asked by the co host to

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Jerry Jones.

Speaker 16 (51:22):
Jerry nineteen seventy A little different from this past off
season and building the team we're talking about today, which
there was a lot of criticism that you guys didn't add,
didn't spend, and don't add and don't spend and are
not aggressive enough with some of the problems that are
still haunting the Cowboys today that we see play it
on the field.

Speaker 7 (51:42):
That's the point of talking about the off season.

Speaker 12 (51:44):
Oh wow?

Speaker 2 (51:44):
Okay, So Jerry then goes off on a tangent, but
then he gets around to answering the question, and this
is what it sounded like.

Speaker 12 (51:54):
Oh I remember those criticisms very well.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
Okay, So what are they playing out to be accurate?

Speaker 12 (52:01):
What's your point? What's your point? This is not your job.
Your job is to let me go over all the
reasons that I did something and I'm sorry that I
did it. That's not your job. Well, my job is
to asking the job or I'll get another I'll get
somebody else to ask these questions.

Speaker 16 (52:17):
Man, Jerry, We're just we're trying to figure out why
the team is.

Speaker 12 (52:22):
I'm not kidding it. I'm not kidding it. You're not
going to figure out it's what the team is doing
right or wrong. If you are are any five or
ten like you, you need to come to this meeting
I'm going to today. There are thirty two teams. Here
are your geniuses.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
So Sean and RJ the morning show in the Cowboys
flagship radio station one oh five point three the fan
in Dallas. So RJ Choppy joints us on the program.
How did that interview end? RJU?

Speaker 20 (52:51):
We went into a couple of other topics and we
ended it as as normal, it went longer than normal.
Usually they're about five fifteen minutes. This one went closer
to a half hour. But yeah, it ended, you know,
obviously less contentious than it was in that moment, but
when it ended, we did know that that was not

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a normal Tuesday appearance from Jerry, which we've had.

Speaker 5 (53:17):
We've had almost three hundred of them with him.

Speaker 20 (53:19):
It's it's been fourteen years that we've done that interview
with Jerry basically the same time on Tuesdays, and we've
never had anything like that.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
Any follow up from Jerry Jones after the interview, given
the fallout from it.

Speaker 5 (53:34):
No, not to us, and we haven't heard anything.

Speaker 20 (53:38):
And I'm sure that it would have been relayed to
us had there been, but no, And we actually talked yesterday,
you know, we were wondering if he would call in today.
He has an appearance Tuesday and the station and then
Friday on the station, so he had we haven't heard
from him.

Speaker 5 (53:58):
That may change the week gos. But but as of now, No.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
Did you take the thread seriously that you guys are
interchangeable parts there on the flagship station?

Speaker 5 (54:08):
No?

Speaker 20 (54:08):
No, I mean everybody's interchangeable, I suppose, But he seems sorious.

Speaker 5 (54:15):
RJ. It did seem serious.

Speaker 20 (54:17):
But you know, we were sitting there wondering was he
talking about like removing us physically or just he's going
to just do his interview on another show on our
station at a different time of day, which I mean,
if he wants to do that, I mean that's I
suppose that that's his prerogative. But now our company, our
boss has been behind us. They've not said a word

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about that.

Speaker 2 (54:38):
But your job is to I mean, I don't know
if he expects team friendly questions. I don't know if
you've ever felt the need to do that to him.
It certainly didn't sound like when you said, hey, that's
not my job. Your job is to ask questions that
fans want answers to. You know, has he ever submitted
questions or said you can't ask about certain things.

Speaker 20 (55:01):
He's never submitted questions. There was maybe one time, and
I think this was eight ten years ago. It was
it was about week three or four of the Colin
Kaepernicks that you discussion that was going on, and they were,
and we had asked him three and four weeks in
a row about it, and they were just like, let's

(55:23):
just move on from that and let's talk football this week.
That's the only time he's been great like he really
That's why this was so surprising.

Speaker 5 (55:30):
He's never been sensitive.

Speaker 20 (55:32):
Of all the owners that we've dealt with in town
and even owners in that we've had on from other markets,
we've never had one that is more accepting of difficult questions.
We don't get personal with him. That's like the one
rule I every media member here knows it. Don't talk
family with him, don't get personal. He's never had a

(55:54):
problem with answering tough questions. When you're the owner and
the GM and you put yourself out on radio twice
a week every week, it's it's it's hard to avoid
those questions. To his credit, he's never had a problem
with him. And that's what made this so like surprising
and disappointing. To be frank, Yeah, but I.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
Don't know if it's weird. You kind of look in
the mirror and mortality sets in you're eighty two, you're
celebrating your birthday, you're at home, you're getting embarrassed again.
You've you've lost what four in a row at home,
going back to last year, you're giving up over forty
points a game, and three of those four, like, I
don't like it. Almost felt like this is the tipping point,
which sounds crazy considering the Cowboys haven't really done anything

(56:37):
on a you know, big scale in thirty years.

Speaker 5 (56:41):
Right, And.

Speaker 20 (56:43):
I think the frustration boiled over, like this is not
the year they wanted. He wanted to go all in.
That was a big talking point in the off season,
the all in. They didn't go all in. They went
all in on what they had. Everybody was on a
you know, entering camp basically on a one year deal
da Cidy lam might make. They were all entering on
a one year deal. And I think that he finally,

(57:04):
like he I finally realized that, hey, we screwed up
in the off season, and now it's back on me
because I've said put it on me, put it on me,
and now it's on him, and you know, you understand.
And I think that he does want to win really
really bad. He wants one more title, and he knows
he's eighty two years old. When you're ready to you
know that your time is is not. You don't have

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fifty years left. He's under more pressure to win. That's
you know, he's under a lot of pressure. Most gms
are under pressure, but most gms don't own the team.

Speaker 2 (57:35):
But I also wonder about this national narrative. And Dani
Rolovsky brought this up that he thinks if you gave
Jerry a choice of getting publicity every single day on
ESPN and Fox and radio shows or winning a super Bowl,
and like he loves the daily you're talking about my product,
and we've seen the value of that because they haven't

(57:56):
won anything. Nobody gets more attention for doing less than
the Dallas Cowboys do. He's a business man, r J.
I don't I know he wants to win, but he
also is selling a product every single day.

Speaker 5 (58:10):
He is, he's the best salesman.

Speaker 20 (58:13):
And I've always called this the world's largest mom and
pop organization and it is. There's an element of that
uh here. But yeah, he does want to win, Like
there's no doubt he wants to win. But when he
has said, I'll write you don't know the size of
the check I would write to win.

Speaker 5 (58:31):
We we got it. We we wonder about.

Speaker 2 (58:33):
That because he could he checked to Derrick Henry.

Speaker 7 (58:36):
Yeah, that's the check I wanted him to write.

Speaker 20 (58:39):
Yeah, he could have wrote a check to you know,
any number of head coaches over the years.

Speaker 12 (58:44):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (58:44):
And he hasn't done that necessarily. But yeah, it's does.

Speaker 20 (58:48):
He want to win or does he want to win
with him being the general manager? And would he accept
winning and would it feel as rewarding if say, Bill
Belichick was here and Bill Belichick was in charge of
personnel and Jerry was just the.

Speaker 5 (59:03):
Owner, and I don't know, I don't know that he would.

Speaker 2 (59:06):
Yeah, that's weird, that's weird to say. But can you
remember a worst loss if you have, let's take out playoffs,
but the timing of this loss eighty second birthday, They've
been blown out at home. And can you think in
all the years that you've been in Dallas, was there
a more historically bad loss.

Speaker 20 (59:29):
The two thousand and eight final game of the year,
they lose to Philadelphia. If they win, they go to
the playoffs, they win the division, they lose. It was
like forty four to six, so bad. That was the
I think that was the too. That's my quarterback game,
my memories, my memory's going.

Speaker 5 (59:48):
But that was bad.

Speaker 20 (59:50):
That was bad, and they felt it because that was
a really good team and they went into the camp
that year thinking, hey, we got a real, real chance
to win this one.

Speaker 5 (59:57):
This was a bad loss. Though it was birthday.

Speaker 20 (01:00:00):
They got embarrassed by a team that treated that game
like a like a statement, like a super Bowl, and
the Cowboys treated it like a regular season game.

Speaker 5 (01:00:09):
And Detroit was it was evident.

Speaker 20 (01:00:11):
I think, you know, you see San Francisco and you
see they play San fran and they get beat. This
was different because this was now another team that did
to you with the Niners have done so many times
over the last few years. And they made the Cowboys
really look old, they made them look slow, and they
made them look not as talented.

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
Good to talk to you, RJ. Glad you're still employed
for now, for now. Thank you all right, Sean and
RJ the morning show in the Cowboys flagship radio station
one A five point three the fan in Dallas. I
know it sounds crazy to say that an owner cares
more about being in the national dialogue than he does

(01:00:48):
about truly winning a championship because you you brought back
Zeke Elliott, who does not help you, and Derrick Henry
is leading the league in rushing. You could run the
ball all keep your defense off the field a little longer.
You spent all that money on DAK and all that
money on Seed. I mean, and Jerry loves talking about

(01:01:10):
the Cowboys, but you can't have user friendly questions to him.

Speaker 7 (01:01:16):
You got a job.

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
If you're a Dallas Cowboy fan, do you want user
friendly team friendly questions? You want answers. You're the coaching GM.
You control everything. Hey, if I could write a check,
you could have written a check. Could have written a
check a long time before you wrote those checks to
DAK and CD, and you could have brought in Derrick Henry.

(01:01:41):
Now you got people's attention. And I know we're making
Derrick Henry out to be Jim Brown here, but Derrick
Henry looks like he still has some tread on the tire,
Like what is the downside? I mean, you re signed
Zeke Elliott years ago. That was wrong. I just I

(01:02:02):
think Jerry gonna look back, people look back on the legacy,
and it'll be a legacy that will be incomplete because
when it got down to who was getting the credit,
Jimmy Johnson or Jerry Jones. Jerry had a problem with
Jimmy because all we did is talk about Jimmy Johnson,
how about them Cowboys, And Jerry had a problem with that.

(01:02:28):
Jimmy built such a good team that Barry Switzer came
in and got a Super Bowl. That's how good Jimmy was.

Speaker 7 (01:02:35):
Yes, he you know, I think too, like talking about
all those things and whatever flaws Jerry Jones has, there
are definitely way worse owners out there than Jerry Jones. Okay, yeah,
he I mean there are owners who truly don't care
for them. It's just an investment to make money, and
that's all they're interested in is the best way to

(01:02:57):
milk these teams for as much money as they can
possibly get out out of it and then sell it
for even more money. Sure, and Jerry Jones is absolutely
not that guy. He I fully believe when like we
were just saying, you know, he would write a check
to win, no matter how big of it. I absolutely
believe that he doesn't always make the right decisions. But
there are way worse owners in sports than that man.

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
Yeah, all you want is your owner to invest like
truly invest in a team. You know George Steinbrenner, he
invested in that team. He created the Yes network. He
made sure nobody left the Yankees unless he wanted them
to leave, and they built this unbelievable business model for

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everybody but nobody else. You know, then you started to
see these regional sports networks that everybody wanted to have.
When the Dodgers in the Red Sox, you're going to
have that.

Speaker 12 (01:03:46):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:03:46):
Now we get the Mets, you're going to get this
flow of cash in there that you can reinvest into
your product. I want an owner who is at least
that it matters to him that he cares about it.
But I don't want an owner like didn't Whatody Johnson
saying thinking is overrated the other day when he was
asked about the Jets situation. Thinking is overrated. Ah, that's

(01:04:10):
your owner. I I you know, you make dumb decisions.
These businessmen who become billionaires, and you're you're accumulating your
wealth differently than trying to build a winner. You're trying
to buy a winner, or you're gonna build a win
like David Tepper in Carolina. I don't care how many

(01:04:30):
billions you got, Steve Balmer, I don't care how many
billions you got. There are people who do this really well.
You hire football people to do football things, and they
don't always do that, and they think, Hey, I'm a billionaire.
Everybody listens to me. No, you made your money to

(01:04:53):
buy a team. Now the best money you'll spend is
to spend it on people who are meant to do
these jobs.

Speaker 7 (01:05:00):
Yeah, well you have to assume that they made that
money in the first one.

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
Well, okay, they could have been given it, that's true.
Fair enough, Yes, Paul.

Speaker 7 (01:05:08):
People who are given billions of dollars shuld think that
they're really smart.

Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
I would love to try that.

Speaker 7 (01:05:12):
I sure would.

Speaker 2 (01:05:13):
I would too. I'd like to just see if I
was smart if somebody gave me a billion dollars. Yes, Paul.

Speaker 8 (01:05:18):
Do you think if you guys had extremely rich parents.

Speaker 9 (01:05:22):
What do you think you would have done?

Speaker 8 (01:05:24):
Would you have coasted through life or said I can
do anything and worked and gone to work? Like if
you're twenty one and you had a trust fund for
ten million dollars, what do you think, knowing yourself, you
would have done? Does it hard even imagine.

Speaker 7 (01:05:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:05:39):
Yeah, I saw an interview with Julia Luis Dreyfus, the actress,
and I think her parents are fantastically wealthy. Yeah, and
she said a lot of my friends had wealthy parents.

Speaker 9 (01:05:47):
And they did nothing. She was I was allowed to
do anything.

Speaker 8 (01:05:50):
So I went into comedy and acting because I had
she goes, I had a backup plan.

Speaker 2 (01:05:55):
Yeah, it must have been nice.

Speaker 7 (01:05:56):
That story is a diamond dozen.

Speaker 2 (01:05:58):
Yeah, must have been nice, Yes, Dad.

Speaker 10 (01:06:02):
I think for me, I'd want to pursue my career
ambition to do something I'm enjoying and having fun looking
forward to when you wake up in the morning, but
you're doing something creative and exciting and not having to
live life where everybody's whispering about how you just got
everything handed to you and you didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
I would like to have tried it, though, Yeah, yeah,
I posession to be Yeah, I would like I'd like
to My first car didn't have a floorboard in the
back seat, so I didn't get my license till I
was eighteen because there was no car to drive.

Speaker 7 (01:06:28):
Oh no, what happened?

Speaker 2 (01:06:30):
Yeah, yeah, didn't have a full so if you sat
in the back seat, Yeah, oh woe is me? If
you sat in the back seat of my sixty nine voltswagon,
you had to have your feet up because you could
see the pavement underneath.

Speaker 9 (01:06:48):
At the Flint Stonde.

Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
Yes, yes, I would like to have had a little bit.
When your hand me downs are from your older brother
who is five inches shorter than you, it's kind of tough.
That's the problem it is, Yes, Marvin.

Speaker 6 (01:07:06):
So some people were born on third you were in
the dugout.

Speaker 2 (01:07:10):
I don't even know if I was at the stadium,
I don't even know. There are a lot of people
who are worse off. But you know what, we never
I never realized what we didn't have until we went
to the neighbor's house on Christmas morning. Oh and it
it was like you, oh my god.

Speaker 14 (01:07:30):
Yes, Mark, out of the four of us who had
who do you think had the roughest upbringing financially?

Speaker 2 (01:07:36):
Yeah, well you didn't have a dad, PAULI didn't have
a dad after he was eleven.

Speaker 8 (01:07:44):
But my dad made a decent living as an ironworker.

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
You once had a corvette.

Speaker 8 (01:07:49):
That was because of how my dad he had two corvettes.

Speaker 9 (01:07:52):
Yes, well, it's because of how my dad died. As
I got the Corvette.

Speaker 7 (01:07:55):
I thought they were your uncles or something.

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
But you or left so you got the settlement, you
got a Corvette.

Speaker 8 (01:08:00):
Well, my mom got a lot of money off the
settlement when my dad died. But when I was like,
which would you rather have dad or a Corvette? Corvette
or a dad, I've had both, I've lost both. I
need some time or is this out?

Speaker 4 (01:08:13):
Are you in it?

Speaker 8 (01:08:15):
My dad was really cool, so are corvettes.

Speaker 2 (01:08:18):
Yeah, we're coming up on the anniversary of your dad's death.

Speaker 7 (01:08:20):
Oh, thanks for bringing Halloween trick or treat.

Speaker 8 (01:08:24):
But when when I was young, he made a decent
living as an iWork. I've always felt like we were
doing fine as kids.

Speaker 2 (01:08:28):
Well, Marvin didn't have a dad.

Speaker 6 (01:08:30):
You know what's crazy. I used to tell people.

Speaker 14 (01:08:32):
I was like, I didn't know I was poor until
I went to somebody else's house.

Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (01:08:38):
Like growing up, people were like, oh, I had sugar
water maynaise sandwiches. Would a thought I'd have on this
old English voice, Oh, poverty disgusting, not knowing that we
were on section eight. And my mother would get me
some like a Michigan starter jacket that I desperately wanted.
That was her last sixty five dollars, but I didn't
know that. She told me my job was not for

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you to know you're you're ten. You're ten, be the
man in the house. No, go to school and take
out the garbage.

Speaker 7 (01:09:05):
So I want you to do Your mom did a
great job.

Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
She did.

Speaker 6 (01:09:08):
Yeah, I like her.

Speaker 2 (01:09:09):
She did a great time. She did a great, great job.

Speaker 6 (01:09:12):
Her and Marianne. See that I had two parents.

Speaker 2 (01:09:16):
Your mom and your grandmother.

Speaker 6 (01:09:17):
Yeah. Yeah, when they called in embarrassing me.

Speaker 2 (01:09:22):
Yeah, Bridget's a badass man, Fritzy. Your dad was a
police officer.

Speaker 6 (01:09:27):
And my mom was a power professional like a teacher's aide.
So we nothing great.

Speaker 10 (01:09:31):
We lived in an apartment in near Coney Island and
Brighton Beach, but we were spoiled. We got basically what
we wanted as far as board games and video games
and things. I don't think we ever wanted for anything,
but I wouldn't say we were in any kind of
wealth situation.

Speaker 7 (01:09:43):
Any What about you not two parents that both worked, Yeah,
you're not.

Speaker 6 (01:09:47):
That's you know.

Speaker 2 (01:09:48):
What's great with parents is they shield you from these
things so you don't have that embarrassment. That was always
really important that you didn't know that you know you were,
you should have more or others had more. But I
just remember all my friends had Corvette, a sixty nine, Chevelle,

(01:10:10):
a Mustang fast like they had, all had great cars.
I was riding a ten speed bicycle until I was eighteen.

Speaker 7 (01:10:18):
Yes see, Paul, how did your mom shield you from that?

Speaker 18 (01:10:21):
Is?

Speaker 8 (01:10:22):
She didn't tell me about my dad dying for a
year and a half. God bless her heart.

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
Hey, don't worry.

Speaker 5 (01:10:26):
Hey, where's that?

Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
Don't worry about it. You see this.

Speaker 9 (01:10:28):
Yeah, he's at a work place.

Speaker 2 (01:10:29):
I'm waiting for you for when you're sixteen.

Speaker 9 (01:10:32):
He went to build a building. He hasn't been back
in a year and a half.

Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
I don't worry about it. Don't worry about it.

Speaker 7 (01:10:35):
Look, there's another Corvette over there.