December 11, 2024 • 47 mins
Dan talks to the Ringer’s Ryen Russillo about his attempt to pursue Mehgan Markle back in the day. DP reacts to the clip of Mark Gastineau calling out Brett Farve. And NFL insider Albert Breer discusses the possibility of Bill Belichick taking the UNC job.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
He's Ryan Rossillo, host of the Ryan Roscillo Podcast. You
can check it out on the Ringer and Spotify mentioned
the story yesterday. It was a great story, and we
were there at the Beach Bull the Direct TV Beach
Bowl in New York. I was doing play by play,
if you want to call it that. We were hosting
all of these starlets, these beautiful people. Ryan Masillo was
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in the game and apparently had a moment with Megan Markle.
We'll talk about shooting your shot there coming up in
a moment. He also sent us a picture. We have
documentation there was some magic going on there. Apparently we'll
get to that coming up in a moment. Ryan, good
to have you back on How are you.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Great. I don't know how long it's been on, since
how long it's been sins been on, but the fact
that it's this is a big moment for me, So
thank you. Well.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
I did want to talk to you about NBA stuff, Okay.
Paulie Paullie thinks Lebron announces his retirement at the All
Star break. No, he'll like he'll go through the end
of the season, but he'll announce that the second half
of the season that's his victory.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Lap.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
I don't know. I think he's going to be really
weird around the trade deadline first. I think he has
another one of those in him.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
What it feels like, there's this ground swell of hey,
let's help out Lebron get to Golden State. When Lebron
created what he has in front of him, including drafting
his son, getting Ad and everybody else involved, and getting
JJ Reddick as his coach, why are we all of
a sudden like, yeah, you know, Lebron would be nice
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if he went out with Golden State and Steph curR.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Yeah, I think his both teams are desperate. Like when
you watch the Warriors, it was such a great start
and you kind of thought, like, is an NBA team
really a title contending team based on just depth? Right?
One guy? Like, I think you're probably the same way
as me as when I think about really special NBA
teams in a season with a chance to win championship,
I'm like, who's the second guy that can get you
buckets when the other guy can't? And Golden State doesn't
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really even have that guy. Lebron can score right now,
but defensively, he's somebody that has attacked. He had this
incredible stretch when they were winning all those games. You
could talk about it being an easier schedule, but I
couldn't believe the effort that he was playing with. And
I don't know if he was after that, just exertion
of energy, just having a hard time after the fact. Look, Dan,
(02:26):
I actually feel I'm torn all the time with Lebron
because he's out on the floor. We talk about the
Lakers and we have to factor them as a contender.
So I almost feel guilty when I'm critical of the
nightly production or the lack of defense, because at the
same time, like the way he has pushed the boundaries
to what we think is possible for a basketball player.
It's so impressive that I get just caught in this
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circle of what am I supposed to do? But if
you're talking about the Lakers right now, they're not good enough.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
But I don't know if we do this, like Larry
Bird wasn't a good defender, Like would we be crushing
Larry Bird now at the end of his career by saying,
you know they're going after Larry and you know he
he hurry I don't know, it feels like Lebron it
just attracts, you know, detractors like there's it's just they're
looking for negatives with Lebron.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Yeah, I think a lot of that is the social
media part of it. And I also think that it's
a very political thing with Jordan Lebron. You know, I've
yet to see anybody change their mind ever, I've yet
to ever see anybody not just sort of push propaganda.
And then when I think about, like I saw comparison
the other day between MJ's last Wizard season where I
always felt like the Jordan Wizard seasons were even more
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of an argument for how special he was. Like if
you go back to that next year, like the first
year he played, he wasn't as good and in the
final year, you know, look like what did you expect?
And now and I'll see people compare like, well, do
you realize that Jordan had this number of Lebron's. I'm like, dude,
are you seriously were two decades in on this and
the forty year old seasons are the ones that are
going to break the tie. So yeah, maybe I just
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think Lebron's status and his fame probably leads it to
a different level of scrutiny than say a bird, but
it's also just what it is today. I mean, these
guys deal with hate and ways that generations have never experienced.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
Who's the best player in the NBA.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
It's Jo Kisch. I don't really think it's uh. I
hate that, you know. I always feel like every good
point is ruined by somebody saying I don't think it's close.
But his control of a basketball game is unlike anything
I've seen in a long time. And you could you
could throw a peak Lebron into that as well. I
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was out in Denver and I saw him again live.
There was a game there. I'd go to Colorado regularly.
There was a night where they were playing the Wizards,
and I just asked. I was like, can I get
a ticket? And I got a ticket. I was like, well,
it's the Wizard. So all I want to do is
watch Jokich. I just want to watch him. I'm gonna
watch him off the ball, I'm gonna watch him with
the ball. All I want to do is just watch
him and his understanding and the way he dissects all
of these different things. And what I always love too
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is like it's a bit like Steph, it's a bit
like Nash. Jokic could take twenty two shots a game
and they'd be good games, and they'd be good looks.
He was second in the MVP voting the one year
he didn't win it to MBID, and he took fourteen
point seven shots per game. That's special to control a
basketball game for the thirty plus minutes that you're out there,
and his priorities actually not to try to find a
way to get buckets, even though he could every single time.
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I just I know Giannis is on a tear right now.
He was so impressive last night. But I love the
way Jokic. I think this is like rarefied stuff, and
I'm rooting for him to have a second ring in
a way I wouldn't root for a lot of players
because I want him to be accepted by I think
what becomes way too simple of a conversation of who
the great ones are.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Yeah, I agree with you, but I think Denver did
him a disservice. They didn't strengthen around him, and I
don't think he's going to win a ring unless they
get Jimmy Butler or somebody like that. You know, maybe
they that roster is not threatening, they're kind of an
average team. But I don't know if he's He's putting
up incredible numbers that are hard to ignore even though
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his team, WE like team success to coincide with greatness,
and I don't think that he's going to have his
team is going to let him down for another MVP.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
I hope it's not Butler. You know, if he has
a fifty million dollar player option next year, it kind
of gets back to your original point, Dan too, of
like would Lebron like to go to Golden State? It's like,
is that a solution or is that desperation? Is the
team that wants Jimmy Butler at the stage of his career.
Is that a solution to what you're doing? Or you're
talking about somebody who decides he's going to be a
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huge problem until he gets the contract extension. Now his
agent had said, Hey, I'm gonna opt out whatever. It
was just funny because I was looking at Jimmy Butler's
numbers the other day. Jimmy Butler's taking eleven shots a game,
and he's somehow taking seven and a half free throws
a game. So it's it's kind of working. But if
I'm traded for Jimmy at this age, I'm going to
need I'm gonna need a few more shot attempts because
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there's certain nights that looks like where I don't know
if he's pacing himself or he's not super interested.
Speaker 5 (07:06):
What do you think about this proposal?
Speaker 2 (07:08):
If I asked the commissioner, can we do away with
the three point shot for a week in the NBA.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
I'm open to anything now at this point. Okay, I
really love the nd season Tournament. I think it's a
home run. I think silver and everybody like I watch
games and I feel like it's more intense than maybe
you would think this time of year. So that is
like a ten out of ten. The playing thing I
didn't love because I think certain years you're gonna have
teams that won like thirty six thirty seven games in
the East and like they get another run at this.
(07:39):
You know, I'm upset about some of the college football expansion,
but this, the event planning, is basically what I'm leading
here too. I'm I think this is where all of
this stuff is going. I would love a week of this. However,
I would ask a lot of old school people like
this because I know that your old school, Dan, I
don't mean an age, I mean in education. Do you
(08:00):
miss post play? Do you do? You watch games now
and be like, you know, I just would love to
see a Rick Smith's baseline entry pass right now? Do
you miss it?
Speaker 5 (08:08):
Okay? Hold on? Hold on? So you don't miss a
chem Olajuan in the post.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Of course I miss it.
Speaker 5 (08:14):
You don't miss Shack in the post.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
I don't know that Shaq and the post was a
keen to me was more entertaining than Shaq was McHale.
All right, fine, like, let's go through it all. But
I don't I don't know if I miss two man
basketball entry pass on the block, three guys watching never moving?
Speaker 5 (08:36):
Do you miss the mid range jumper? Ryan?
Speaker 6 (08:42):
No?
Speaker 3 (08:42):
If I do? Just watch the Phoenix Suns.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Yeah, Kevin Durant absolutely, or you see what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Because I think you're right, Like the three point part
of this is kind of messed it up, right. There
are nights where I go, WHOA, this isn't this isn't
the best. I can't leave how quick some of the
shots are, some of the threes, I'm like, I get
you want to take a lot of threes. But are
these good shot decisions? We're even ready for the shot.
But I wonder sometimes if we glorify just some I
(09:11):
mean the Mark Jackson rule. It was like, hey, your
post ups take so long, we have to pass the rule.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
You're too boringly efficient. We must take that out of
the game. How about you get a twenty five to
three pointers attempts each game?
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Yeah, kind of like a short porch for a men's
softball league.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Use use you know, sparingly save for the fourth quarter.
Maybe you could keep it in without it being There
are a lot of teams that shoot threes. There's a
lot of teams that shouldn't shoot threes. But that's the
that's the whole math part of this.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Would Jordan Poole be cut that day?
Speaker 5 (09:56):
He might be punched again?
Speaker 3 (09:58):
All right?
Speaker 2 (09:59):
I build up this spence the drama of you. So
what year was this that you were trying to hook
up with Megan Markle?
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Well?
Speaker 3 (10:08):
I think I was asking her if she had an
interest in promoting suits.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
So there was that Okay, let's start with the game.
Let's start with the game.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Because you weren't talking promoting suits on your radio show
at the game, were you.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
No, No, I got invited to play in the Direct
TV's flag football thing. You know. I was easily, I think,
the least famous person that played in it. But ESPN
usually would get somebody to play in the game because
Direct TV would want someone on the air to talk
about it. I think I asked for five grand and
they said how about zero because everybody was getting paid.
And then they told me they'd get me tickets to
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their DirecTV concert for the Super Bowl party. And then
I went to get the tickets. They weren't even there
for me, so they stipped me on the tickets too,
So it was it was bad. It was a bad,
bad run for your boy. But Ben put were doing
the show.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Okay, first time you meet her though, so the first
time you see her on the on the are you
teammates on the beach or teammates?
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Okay, yep, blue team, So there's Jesse Palmer was my
quarterback and we're buddies, so that helped a little bit.
And no, I look, there was a million swimsuit models
from Sports Illustrated. I think Christy Tigen was on one
of the teams. Serena Williams, although I think she was
smart as a world class athlete to not run around
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on the sand and play flag football. So there was
just all these models everywhere, and it was also a
lot of the athletes, you know. So I was playing
defense in the first half, which is a funny story
because Joe Montana was our coach and she was playing defense.
When we get subbed out, we were just kind of
bored off to the side and we were just kind
(11:44):
of talking about it because nobody was talking to me,
and you know, I don't know, she just was. She
was very girl next doorsh And then I went up
to Joe Montana and was like, Hey, is there anyway
because you know how the radio show works. If I
go back on Monday with Van Pelton, I don't have
a catch. I'm gonna get crushed for three hours. So
I I go to Montana, who I had met luckily
once before, so there was some It wasn't out of nowhere,
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although we didn't love my request. I was like, is
there anyway I can get like one possession on offense
started me for the radio show, and Montana turns to
me and goes, well, you know, we got La Danny
and Tomlinson an TONI Gazalez too bleep in Hall of Famers, Ryan,
but let's get you out there for a possession. So
I finally go to Palmer, I go just throw me,
give me one route and throw me the ball. I
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make a catch and then I'd come back and you know,
we'd all high five, and then I ended up catching
the game winning touchdown, which I still feel bad about
because I like spiked the ball in front of Desmond
Howard and he hasn't talked to me in like ten years.
And I don't blame him too, because he was like
I was a little bit too much. And then girls
were coming up to high five me, and I still
was so locked in on the game when he touchdown
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that I just started like marching through everybody, like couldn't
be faced. So anyway, the game is over, confetti rains down,
and then she and I were like waiting for our
cars to bring us back because they'd organized all of
our transportation. And I was like, hey, you know, great
meeting you whatever, and then we followed each other and
I all I did was was asked if she wanted
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to come on the show with Van Pelton I to
promote suits, and she said no, And that's it. I've
told this story a couple of times. But the funniest
part of this whole thing is it years later we
know how like Pierce Morgan went on this weird sharing
episode of like how he thought he was going to
date her, Remember that, and he would he would talk
about it. So because CHRISA. Thompson and Sarah Walsh, who
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we both worked with at ESPN and are really good friends,
they knew the story. They thought it was hilarious that
I asked her to come on the TV show or
our TV show to promote hers and she said no.
That I ended up seeing these Pierce Morgan tweets and
then I would just tweet above his like hey, I
know you don't believe me, but it does get better.
And that was that was kind of the inside Joe.
(13:52):
And so I did it a third time, like a
year ago, where I was like, I am here for
you if you need anything, Pierce, and he never responded,
nor would I expect him to. I get a text
from a different coworker who is like, I don't understand
your problem here. I think you're fine, like a real
pick me up text, and I'm sitting home and by
my and I read this text and I go, I
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can't believe Jeff Van Gundy just texted me about to
pick me up kind of boost me up. That it's
okay that Markle didn't want to and he didn't know
the story, so he actually sort of peers Morgan me
or I don't know how it works.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
He had a shot though. You said you thought she
was obtainable.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
No, I think, well that was a live show, so
we been playing it to the crowd there a little bit,
so there could be a semantics debate on that one. Uh.
I felt like because it was like Hannah Davis and
Nina Dobrev and Agdall I think was the track, Yeah, yeah,
it was. It was. It was a five star recruiting class,
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and so because of that and the other athletes, like
we were just off to the side a bunch kind
of of being like who are they? And so it
was just you know, who knows. It could have been
the start to our story. But I now think, armed
with this much information, I'm not sure that I could
provided the life she needed.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Okay, if I gave you a mulligan, what would you
have done differently?
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Well, you could argue that a hair transplant, but I
think the hair is not a priority to her. No hair,
he's holding on for dear life. Yeah, so I don't
think it's that. I don't know what else I could do.
You know, I talked to Joe Montana to putting me
on offense. I caught the game winning touchdown. Obviously the
competitive it maybe I was too competitive. Oh, I think
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you've been accused of that. And I could see being
locked in. I could see that it was very important
to you. You just didn't celebrate the way you're supposed to.
It should have been. Yeah, I've been here before. And
then you walk up to her and you say, hey,
how about we go celebrate together with that tone? Yeah
noe for note? Yeah yeah, yeah, I don't I don't
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think that was going to happen. I think she lived
in New York City too, so it was like a
it wasn't a huge a huge.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
She actually left the country after this because you run.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Wow, I didn't think it was going to go there.
Well it was.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
She went to England to get away from you.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Honestly, there's probably somebody from USA network listeners right now
being like we would have loved to promote suits.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Hey, it's made a comeback. It's like crazy, you know,
It's like, hey, have you seen suits? I said, yeah,
ten years ago. Does anybody think that Ryan had a
shot here? Let me go around the room here, I
just I'll say, no, Pauli's got his hand on.
Speaker 6 (16:39):
I think Ryan, you would have had a decent shot
at that time. You're a confident guy, and I think
you could have played it up in that moment and
maybe gotten a dinner.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
I really don't think so. I don't think so. You know,
I'm sure I think at that point my name was
on the show because that was always a tough one.
Like what do you do? I host a radio show
where at ESPN. What's it called the Scott Van Help Show?
Speaker 5 (17:07):
Are you Scott Van Pelt? No?
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Yes, wow, get your drink. Well, keep fighting the good fight.
You know, we're proud of you. You took a shot
kind of yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Look, I mean I would say now that the home
base is a little bit better of a cell than
have a three bedroom townhouse in West Harford. But they
mow HOA does a good job at the lawn and
the plowing and stuff. And you know, now we're situated
out here in Manhattan Beach still three bedroom.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
But you know, no, h you could have made her happy.
She could have been behind you cooking breakfast right now.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Yeah, or you know, I'm not real married to Roles.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Maybe I would cook, that'd be nice. Yeah, i'd be
interviewing her. But I'm glad you got your name on
your show though. That was big. That was big and
the touchdown. Thanks for joining us, Thanks for sharing.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Hey, you're the only person I do it for. You
know how much I like you. I miss all the guys,
So thanks Dan, Thank you Ryan.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
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Speaker 2 (18:23):
In case you're watching Hunk Pea Con, this is the
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Speaker 5 (18:29):
I got my cameraman in here. Weeks is.
Speaker 7 (18:33):
They just took a much better camera angle than the
original one.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
It looked like you're doing a duet.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
He was. He was helping me with my computer. He
does a lot of things here.
Speaker 6 (18:43):
It looked like one of those zoom calls where a
kid walks into the room.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Get out of here, kid.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Yeah, so weeks my cameraman was helping me with my computer.
Speaker 8 (18:53):
Yes, Marvin, he is now definitely the winner of almost
Valuable BRG.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
I don't know what.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
It's still open.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
He runs the camera and he just did that. I know.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
I know well, Mary and I did tell him thirty
minutes ago to do this. Oh yeah, oh boy, you
see what happened.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
I'm gonna moon walk away from that.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
Yes, you will.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
He's got other responsibility. Can't just come running in and
fix the computer.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
Todd, quiet as Paul, But did that happen?
Speaker 6 (19:22):
You've been hosting TV a long time at Sports Center,
had to be, especially in the earlier days, moments before
going on air, Catastrophe lights power, did you guys have
a few of those?
Speaker 5 (19:33):
We had a roof leaking one time above you, like
right above you.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Yeah, yeah, and we put a cup out on Sports Center,
so it's just dripping drip.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
So we just did Sports.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Center and then we would pour out the cup and
then you just continue to do it. You were doing
it for an hour, yes, Paul.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
I remember one.
Speaker 6 (19:52):
We were two thousand and four ALCS Yankee Stadium. You
were co hosting the six o'clock Sports Center and moments before,
maybe about a half an hour for going on the air.
The telep they had these little baby teleprompters to help
you go the ins and outs of Sports Center, and
they just you know, craft the bed. They weren't working,
and so a bunch of people had to write on
blue cards, not the script of Sports Center, but the
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ins and outs of the brakes, and you were being
handed them from under a table. Like there was a
guy down there named who are his name's not relevant,
but like he was off Cameron handing these blue cards
up to you, and you were seamlessly going coming up next,
we'll talk to Tito Francona and see what they can
come back, and then this is Sports Center, and then
it was just a it was wild scene.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
I remember doing the NBA Draft and I had somebody
right down beneath me because I wanted to know the picks.
I didn't want to jump the pick. I wanted to
know what it was. So when it was announced that
I immediately could go to my research there. But it wasn't
one of those where I go, you know, I think
Portland's going to take somebody from Washington State. It wasn't
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anything like that because you can get that information if
you want to. But I had somebody underneath down, you know,
for hours, just sat there scribbling, and then they would
and Commissioner Stern would announced the pick and then you
know he put his hand up and you know, give
me the card, and I'd go, Jay Billis joins us, Now, Jay,
what can you tell us about Brandon Roy?
Speaker 7 (21:15):
Yeah, that's one of my favorite parts of any draft
is when you can tell now the moment that they oh,
that's where they just got the news. It'll be graphics
and everybody's talking about I mean, this offense is a mess.
You got to start from ground zer here. You got
to rebuild, you gotta. But would be surprised if they
go Edge Rusher. I know, Ah, that's where they just
got the info. Well, Chris Berman used to go, a
(21:37):
little birdie.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
Is telling me that they like running back and then.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
The Eagles announce their take it, you know, and he'd
be like, uh, already, But you can find out the
information if you want it.
Speaker 9 (21:52):
A little birdie told me the Patriots like a quarterback
out of Michigan and the Patriot stake. Tom Brady alright,
good morning to all of our radio affiliates around the country,
over four hundred cities in America with this program coming up,
(22:13):
Albert Breer The Monday Morning Quarterback.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
More on the Bill Belichick situation. Also Ryan Rossillo obtainable
Ryan Rossillo podcast. But yesterday a story came out that
apparently he was going to make the move on Megan Markle,
the Duchess of Sussex, hoping to have some sussex with her,
(22:38):
and he will join us. We were at the Direct
TV Celebrity Beach Bowl and he was playing in it.
Meghan Markele was in the show suits and there are
a lot of famous, beautiful people there and Ryan Rossillo,
and Ryan was thinking that Megan Markle was good to go, Like,
(22:58):
you know, he could stare in her eyes. Now there
is a picture where it's just Ryan and it's Megan
Markle on the football field or on the beach on
the sand, and it just does two and there's a
nice little smile that she has there. So Ryan will
join us coming up a little bit later on we
say good morning. Obviously the radio partners and Peacock is well,
(23:22):
Fox Sports Radio, iHeartRadio as well. The NFL Winter meetings
are in Dallas, I'm not sure exactly what they're doing
over the next two days, but Albert Breer will join
us from Dallas. The transfer portal wide open, ready for business.
We've said this the last couple of years. Lane Kiffin
just came out and said, why is the transfer portal
(23:44):
open right now during bull season? Well, we're getting towards
the end of semesters for most universities. I'm guessing they
were trying to tie it into that. This is what's happening,
just to let you know. With bull season there are
players that gootiating to either stay or they're going to
go to another school. And my source said last night,
(24:06):
do you know there's going to be two players now?
He told me last year three players Marquee players were
playing it, getting ready to play in bowl games, but
negotiating with another school, and the schools said, we don't
want you to play in the bull games. So he
said there's two players that are you know, he said
not prominent because he said, I don't know if your audience.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
Will know them, but we know them.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
They're negotiating with another school right now, and the schools
are saying you can't play in the ballgame. So you
put these kids in this situation. Where would I play
in a bowl game if I'm going to another university.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
No, I would not.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
If I thought I had pro potential or I was
going to get paid when I go to another school,
I wouldn't. Like, you do everything for the regular season.
That's what you're supposed to do. You know, the fans suffer.
That's what this is about. I don't know if you're
tuning into bowl games now necessary to see players as
much as like the Pop Tart Bowl? Who remembers who
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was in the Pop Tart.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
Bowl last year?
Speaker 2 (25:10):
How about the the Mayo Bowl? Who was in that?
The Bahamas Bowl. It's just it takes up three hours.
ESPN needs the programming. And go back to Leonard Fournette
and Christian McCaffrey. They didn't play. Oh my god, you
got to play. They're business people. Why is it business
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for everybody else? But it can't be for the kids.
And that's how they're viewing this. You're going to have
players who are going to opt out of the Bull
Game because they're going to transfer now, Dion said. Travis
Hunter and his son Shador are going to play in
the Bull Game. That'd be a great conversation. If Shador said, hey, Dad,
I don't want to play. I want to be healthy
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when I go to the Raiders, I'd love to hear
Prime and his son talking. So obviously he's going to play.
Travis Hunter says he's going to play as well. But
it's bull season, it's transfer portal season, and it's unfortunate
because it shouldn't be happening right now. We brought it
up last year. I don't know if there was any
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movement inside to go, hey guys, why are.
Speaker 5 (26:18):
We doing it at this point of the season.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
You have now you have more teams playing in the playoffs,
so that means more kids have more decisions to make
of do I want to play in the bowl season?
How much do I want to play? Because you could
be playing four more games depending on your success, and
I think that's unfortunate because the bowl games, I know,
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this is really big to a lot of cities and
some small cities that are hosting a Bowl game. It's
important to them, you know, the local economy all of that.
Speaker 5 (26:56):
And I know we make fun.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Of the pool and weed eater and some of those,
but they are important. You know, the outback, well, it
is important to these cities, but I don't tune in
going anymore. Where I go got to see that guy
because that guy may not want to play, or that
guy may be ready to transfer. And I think you're
gonna see more and more of that, and you have
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the transfer portal at this time unless they change that,
I think you're going to have more of this. Who's
playing you're actually tuning in for the school, maybe a coach,
maybe a quarterback, But there's already guys who are dropping out.
Speaker 6 (27:35):
Yeah, Paul, I think what bothers college football fans, and
I could speak as a college football fan, is that, yeah,
you're getting paid. I don't think most people have problems
with athletes getting paid in college I think the problem
is why don't they have to honor contracts and finish
out contracts? If these are contracts, these nil deals. Like
if you're a player for the Cincinnati Bengals and you
don't make the playoffs, so you're ineligible. Let's say you're
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don't make it. You can't just leave the team in
week sixty. You have a contract to finish out the season.
Why can a player for Old Miss leave now and
not finish out the season? There should be a similar
thing with your NIL deal, that you finish out the deal,
your season with NIL which is approved by NCAA or
NIL deals are approved by NCAA. You finish the season,
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and then you enter the portal and do whatever you
want and go to the next team.
Speaker 5 (28:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (28:21):
Seed, I'm not saying that I agree with this necessarily,
but it's possible that in the contract they did finish
the season.
Speaker 5 (28:28):
Now there's this extra game that they're supposed to play.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Correct.
Speaker 5 (28:31):
Here's here's the problem I have with it.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Though.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Let's say you sign an NIL deal, what constitutes your season.
You may be playing in four more games, have four
more than other people are playing in. Hey, you're going
to play in the playoffs. Well do these kids? How
much do they care about that? I got to play
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four more but I'm not getting paid more.
Speaker 6 (28:57):
But I would negotiate that as escalators your NIL deal,
If you make the playoffs, you get bonus money.
Speaker 5 (29:03):
They want to make the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Well, this is for the schools, Like all of this
is the wild wild West. It just feels like nobody's
thought of anything until they think of something and they're like,
oh my god, this is crazy. The transfer portals open wait,
kids don't want to play in the ball game. Yes, yes,
so they almost have to go through this to go okay.
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And we went through this last year with a transfer portal.
What happened nothing this year?
Speaker 5 (29:32):
Nothing.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Here's Lane Kiffin bringing it up, and I'm going, Yes,
this happened last year, It'll continue to happen, Lane, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
I think that.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
I think it.
Speaker 7 (29:42):
Obviously, it's going to take a few years for all
of this to shake out because every year you identify
new issues, whether it's with.
Speaker 5 (29:48):
The transfer port or nil. Now the playoff system.
Speaker 7 (29:51):
You know, but if you're going to put that into
people's contracts or whatever, you think A kid at Indiana
was like, I need a playoff bonus really, really, Charlie,
you know, you probably don't think you're going there. I
don't know, maybe Boise State, maybe SMU. You really think
kids holding out for like another hundred grand because wow,
what if we make it to the playoff?
Speaker 5 (30:11):
Probably not.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
But you have players who are negotiating staying South Carolina.
One of their better defensive players and edge rusher re
signed to stay at South Carolina.
Speaker 5 (30:23):
Great, no, right, but that's what is going on now, that's.
Speaker 7 (30:27):
What we want, right, Players to stay longer.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
Yes, yes, great, but they're negotiating.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
You could have somebody at one of these Bull eligible
schools or playing in the playoffs going, I don't know
if I'm gonna stay or I want to be paid.
I want to be paid more for the playoffs. Great,
It's just it makes it's a mess with this of
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trying to do you know, can you put clauses in
these contracts that say, hey, if we make it to
the twelve team playoff, you get paid commensurate to how
far we go.
Speaker 5 (31:04):
Right?
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Yeah, but college football is in the dark ages still
with this. They're not advanced with this. That's why it's
a mess with Lane Kiffin. It's been coaching for decades
and he didn't see that this was an issue. You
bring up the transfer portal now or kids are going
to play in possibly three or four more games. And look,
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I know Lane didn't create the rules, but he knew
the rule was in place. Why are we waiting until
what's going to happen now? And then when the Bull
season ends? Does Lane Kiffin go, Hey, guys, I brought
this up in December. I want to make sure that
we address this. Hey, I brought this up in January,
I brought this up in Mark, this is when you
do this, stay with it, you want to correct it. Great,
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then we don't have a transfer portal issue. Yes, I
think those three things are massive changes in college football.
So I think I think it's fair to think to
understand that not everybody saw the challenges that were going
to come through.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Right.
Speaker 7 (32:04):
Nil is a massive change. The transfer portal is a
huge change. The college football Playoff is a massive change
having twelve teams. So I don't know that when NIL
was first announced, almost universally the reaction was like, oh great,
so now Clemson and Alabama are going to win every
year and we just completely destroyed college football. And really
it had the exact opposite effect. It leveled the playing
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field more than you could possibly imagine, where Alabama's not
even in the twelve team and Clemson kind of back
to their way in they got lucky to be in.
Speaker 5 (32:33):
So well, okay, I'll go back to when this started.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
A Hall of Fame caliber coach questioned why we would
pay offensive lineman? What are you going to give them
free pizza? Was what I was told, And I go,
you are crazy. You build with your offensive and defensive line,
a Hall of Fame caliber coach who said this to me.
So they weren't even aware back then, and once they just.
Speaker 7 (32:56):
Look at the NFL and see if offensive lineman make
any money. And then now you're going to know, oh, well,
this is what their value is.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
But that's where we're here in the transfer portal and
guys are sitting out. Christian McCaffrey sawt sat out, so
did Leonard Fournette. And that wasn't even transfer portal. That
was just these guys preserving themselves and at running back,
I can't blame you. So it's tricky. Do we have contracts?
What do you put in with the playoff with a
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bowl bonus? I don't know, but that's what I would
be at least aware of. And the transfer portal this
late in the year.
Speaker 8 (33:32):
Yes, part that's like when a Jake Budd at Michigan
got hurt. Like see see that's why first round draft
picks don't play in these quote unquote meaningless ball games.
If you're not playing a national championship, I don't need
to play in this bowl game. Let me get ready
for the NFL.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Yeah, if you're at Alabama and you're going into the
NFL first round. Are you going to play against Michigan
in a bowl game?
Speaker 3 (33:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
I know it's up to the individual, but I can
only imagine if I'm a first round draft pick rolling
in the dice every time you play, and now you're
gonna ask these kids to play two, three, maybe four
more games. I know you're playing for a national championship.
This is about business. It's business all around, and it's
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gonna be business for the kids as well, and it
should be.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
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the league meetings in Irving, Texas. Let me ask you
about that gas to know Brett Favre confrontation. Go back
to two when it happened. I don't know how big
of a deal it was. When you know far of
gift wrap that sack for Michael Strahand.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
I mean, I think everybody sort of saw it as
a cute thing.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
If I remember right right, Like I was.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
Just out of college, and I like I definitely remember
everybody laughing about it after, you know, like I never
thought that. I never thought somebody takes such offense to it.
And then for Brett to come out and apologize the
way that he did on Twitter and like putting like
real life context on it, you know what I mean,
(35:17):
and like saying like how it actually might have cost
cast no money. I hadn't thought about that aspect of it.
It was weird because, like I think, I don't know
if you got this feeling watching it, Dan, but like
when I saw it, like at first, like farfetd that
look on his face like like he thought he was joking,
and then like like slowly started to realize like no,
(35:38):
this guy's actually serious about this, which I think everybody
watched it thought like Okay, like is he gonna at
some point here kind of like let us guard down
just say ah, I'm just messing around, you know what
I mean. So it was just a weird, weird, weird confermation.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Okay, what if whoever the Eagles play at the end
of the season and Tae Kwon Barkley as a chance
to break Eric Dickerson's all time record. Yeah, and all
of a sudden they let him have his seven yard run. Yeah,
anybody's gonna have a problem with them.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
I mean, I'm thinking the current players will, you know,
I mean maybe Eric dicker I wouldn't have said Eric
Dickerson would, but like maybe he will.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
I would if I'm Eric Dickerson and be like, wait,
you're just gonna let him run and break my record?
Speaker 5 (36:23):
I get, I'm right.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
It's trying to understand what these thords mean to these players,
you know what.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
I think. The other thing is too, that's sort of
interesting about it, is like how all these guys are
friends now and it's been that way for a long time.
It's not like that's new, you know what I mean. Like,
but I do think like the athletes from my childhood,
like you know, I for me, like the one I remember.
It's like all the basketball rivalries, how those teams genuinely
seem to hate each other, you know, the Pistons and
the Celtics and the Bulls and the Lakers, like they
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genuinely seem to.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
Not like each other.
Speaker 4 (36:54):
And at some point along the line that changed. And
I think, I don't know, like what what do you
think you have better handle on this?
Speaker 3 (37:00):
To me?
Speaker 4 (37:00):
Probably like late nineties, maybe somewhere in there, like it
started to be like these guys all had the same
agents or the same.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
I think magic and Isaiah.
Speaker 5 (37:10):
I think I think that changed.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
When you give each other a kiss on the cheek
for a jump ball and you're playing in an NBA finals,
you got my attention there, of Okay, maybe maybe it's
not the Bulls Pistons rivalry, and it felt like there
was a little it was okay to be friends with
somebody even though you wanted to beat them, right.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
So I think that that sort of of I mean,
I think that's probably the divide here too, right, Like
is like that like to use your example, like no
one in nineteen eighty four was giving Eric Dickerson those
seven yards. No one was giving Mark Asteneo the extra sack,
you know, and I mean far from straighthand everybody knew
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like how friendly those.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
Two were, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (37:54):
So could I see and I'd have to look up
with the Eagles are playing in week eighteen, I don't
have it right in front of me.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
But you know, could I see?
Speaker 4 (38:02):
I don't know, like a defensive coach who knows Saquan
saying like yeah, well, we'll uh, we'll cook this one
for you a little bit. Certainly that could happen, Like
that's I think it's just like sort of a change
in the relationship between players on different teams over the
last thirty or forty years.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
All right, help me understand, Uh Chapel Bill here with
North Carolina, Like.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
I haven't heard that one. That's pretty good.
Speaker 5 (38:25):
Yeah, what do we? Uh? What's what's holding this up?
Speaker 4 (38:30):
I think I think money right now is a factor,
like how much you're gonna pay him, how much you're
going to resource the program, what you're gonna be able
to give him from an nil standpoint, all of that.
Like I I also like in the back of my head,
you know, because I I had a feeling like something
could happen last night, and now this is starting to
drag out a little bit, so you know, there's always
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that in the back of your head, like does he
just making.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
Sure be before.
Speaker 4 (38:55):
He does something that like some NFL team isn't going
to call and say like, well wait a minute, Bill,
Like maybe we can't guarantee anything, but you might want
to wait a few weeks here.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
You know what I mean, Like, could that happen?
Speaker 4 (39:06):
I think that's certainly possible too, because I think his
preference probably still is to stay in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
But I thought that this was basically the NFL saying Bill,
we don't want you. No.
Speaker 4 (39:17):
I would say, here's here's the way I would look
at it, Like, I think the simplest, most compact way
to explain it is Bill was stunned by the lack
of interest last year, right, Like, so you had you
had six jobs open, not including New England, which obviously
was the one that let him go, and he only
got interest really from one team, and then the bureaucracy
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of that team got in the way of him getting
that job. And so now after a year, he's got
the thirty thousand foot view of the league. He's gotten
to see it the way a lot of these teams operate,
take a closer look at like how each team is
affected by all that factors inside their organizations. And he's
looking at the jobs that are open, and it's like, okay, Like,
so if I go to Chicago, I got to work
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for Kevin Warren and with Ryan Poles. If I go
to the Jets, I've got to work with Whatdy Johnson.
And I think it's like sort of this calculus of
like every team's not going to want me because that's
the way it was last year, and of the ones
that do want me, am I going to want them?
Speaker 3 (40:17):
You know?
Speaker 4 (40:17):
Like, like is that path to the right job going
to be there for me? And can I count on that?
And I think Bill badly wants to coach next year,
and so you know, I like, I think he sees
that it's like sort of a narrow path, the perfect
situation where things are set up exactly the way that
he wants it with an NFL team. Meanwhile, you know,
I think you know, over the last two three months,
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he and the people around him have done a lot
of research on college jobs and what those look like.
And I think what they found is that it's closer
to the NFL than it ever has been before. The
challenges are and they may have an advantage because NIL
is salary cap, because transfer portal is free agency, and
because you might be able to get things up and
running faster. I've heard a lot of people the recruiting argument,
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right Dan, Like, I'm sure you know you've heard that rightly?
Does he want to go into an eighteen year old's
house eighteen year old house and recruit.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
Do you know how many of those visits Dion Sanders.
Speaker 5 (41:09):
They don't do that. They don't zero, Yes, they don't
do that.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
All of a sudden, you go, Mom and Dad. Bill
Belichick's on his zoom call. Hey, Tommy, just want to say,
you know, come on in, who's more likely to coach
in the NFL, Dion or Belichick next season?
Speaker 4 (41:27):
I think Belichick. I think Belichick. I like I think Dean.
I think Dean will be back at Colorado next year, unless,
like Florida State comes open. But I think I think
Deon probably be back at Colorado next year. I Bill,
I think, I mean, I think he could do a
deal with North Carolina today.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
I think he could pull out of that today.
Speaker 4 (41:48):
You know, I think that all things are sort of
on the table today. I think I think all.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
Things are on the table.
Speaker 4 (41:53):
I think again, I think his preference is to coach
in the NFL. But like, I don't think he wants
to put it this way. I don't think he wants
to walk into a bleep show where he doesn't think
he's got a great chance to win and suffer the
indignity of being fifteen wins away. From Don Shula and
not being able to get there because of the environment
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that he's working in.
Speaker 3 (42:14):
Does that make sense?
Speaker 4 (42:15):
Yes, Yes, So I think he wants Schule's record. He's
a historian of the game. I think it's bs that
he I think he wants the record.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
Yeah, But the reason why there's an opening is because
that team has been a bleep show.
Speaker 5 (42:27):
Like he goes into Jacksonville.
Speaker 3 (42:29):
This, I think is what he started. I think that's
what he's starting to realize.
Speaker 4 (42:32):
Yes, I'm not saying I'm not saying like a bleep show,
Like is it a bleep show that's going to remain
a bleep show after? Like are the reasons for it
being a bleep show still in place when you're walking in,
or are you gonna have the opportunity to clean it up?
Speaker 3 (42:46):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (42:48):
He may look at it bleep show. I appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (42:50):
Yeah, he may.
Speaker 4 (42:52):
He may have Like he may like if he goes
into a place where it's like, we're clearing the decks
for you, Bill, and it was a bleep show, but
we're going to give you every resource to fix it,
versus like another place where maybe some of the people
who are responsible for the bleep show are still going
to be part of football decisions.
Speaker 3 (43:06):
Those are two very different things.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
Chuck and Albert Breer, Monday Morning Quarterbacks, Senior NFL reporter.
Do the Vikings have a dilemma at quarterback?
Speaker 3 (43:15):
Yes? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (43:16):
Is it a good dilemma?
Speaker 4 (43:18):
It's a Champagne problem, It's a shamp there's a Dom
Perryon problem. Look like, I think we need to stop
it with like expecting the other shoot to drop with
Sam Donold, he's just a really good player, you know
who was in a bad situation. We saw Gino Smith
and the renaissance of his career in Seattle. It'd be
hard for any quarterback to overcome some of the things
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that Gino and Sam went through over that period of
time in New York. And I think you know what
you're seeing is the nature versus nurture thing.
Speaker 3 (43:46):
Play out in real time.
Speaker 4 (43:48):
And you know, it's eleven games, I believe where he's
had a triple digit passer rating.
Speaker 3 (43:53):
That's a franchise record.
Speaker 4 (43:54):
He had the highest passer rating in the history of
the franchise on Sunday. Yes, part of it is that
he's throwing adjust Jefferson and Jordan Asen. But part of
it is that he's becoming a really good player and
he's with a coach that that that's built an offense
that works for him, and Kevin O'Connell deserves a ton
of credit. So I think what's tricky about this one
is they love where JJ McCarthy was Dan in August
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when he got hurt, so and they really believe in him.
The problem is that you like now like it's just
as far as he's going to be in May and
June and July, like you're projecting. You haven't gotten to
see the development on the bench over September and October,
November and December, and so you are to some degree
projecting where he's going to be. And when you've got
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a team that's clearly in a window where it can
win right now, do you owe it to the veteran
players to at least give yourself the insurance policy of
bringing Sam Donald back for a year on the franchise tag,
or do you look at it and say, we believe
enough in JJ McCarthy, this is going to work out.
We believe that we're going to be able to get
him up and running the same way we were able
(44:58):
to get Sam Donald up and running, and we love
Sam Darnold, but we want to have the advantage of
having the quarterback on the rookie contract. So love you Sam,
rooting for you go find another.
Speaker 3 (45:09):
Team to play for.
Speaker 4 (45:09):
It's it's an interesting question, you know, And I do
think the franchise tag is it's going to be over
forty million dollars for quarterbacks this year, So like, are.
Speaker 3 (45:19):
You willing to pay.
Speaker 4 (45:22):
A forty million dollar tab to make sure that you're
buttoned up at the most important position on the field
with the team that's ready to contend in the here
and the now.
Speaker 2 (45:31):
The Eagles situation, yep, is there something there is this?
You know, Jalen Hurts and AJ Brown, I mean, is
this a big deal?
Speaker 3 (45:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (45:43):
You know, I just think look like I think Jalen
Hurts is a warrior of a football player and he
brings a lot to the table. Is he going to
be like sort of the den leader for the offense. No,
And you know, I think his personality as such where
it's he's not the warmest person in the world, you know,
(46:04):
So I don't think he's the guy who is gonna
stand there and put his arm around AJ Brown and say,
don't worry about it, buddy, we'll get you next time.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
You know.
Speaker 4 (46:13):
And I think like the way that Jalen carries himself,
and again he's not a bad guy, but I do
think it's I do think it wears on people sometimes,
and I think it's worn on people who've been around him.
Speaker 3 (46:23):
And you know.
Speaker 4 (46:25):
So he and Aj had a really close relationship, you know,
but having a close relationship when you're on different teams
and you see each other once in a while is
different than having a close relationship when you're around the
guy every day. And so I think it's something that
can be worked out because they've got a head coach
and Nick Sirianni, who's very emotionally intelligent, I would say,
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and like really has the ability to manage people. And
so I think they're going to work it out the
same way they've worked a lot of things out there
over the last year to get to the point where they're,
you know, now eleven and two and one of the best.
Speaker 3 (46:57):
Teams in football. But it's not nothing.
Speaker 4 (47:00):
Mhm.
Speaker 5 (47:00):
Safe travels. Albert, always great to talk to you.
Speaker 3 (47:03):
Awesome, thanks d.
Speaker 5 (47:04):
That's Albert Breer
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were there at the Beach Bull the Direct TV Beach
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if you want to call it that. We were hosting
all of these starlets, these beautiful people. Ryan Masillo was
(00:26):
in the game and apparently had a moment with Megan Markle.
We'll talk about shooting your shot there coming up in
a moment. He also sent us a picture. We have
documentation there was some magic going on there. Apparently we'll
get to that coming up in a moment. Ryan, good
to have you back on How are you.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Great. I don't know how long it's been on, since
how long it's been sins been on, but the fact
that it's this is a big moment for me, So
thank you. Well.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
I did want to talk to you about NBA stuff, Okay.
Paulie Paullie thinks Lebron announces his retirement at the All
Star break. No, he'll like he'll go through the end
of the season, but he'll announce that the second half
of the season that's his victory.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Lap.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
I don't know. I think he's going to be really
weird around the trade deadline first. I think he has
another one of those in him.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
What it feels like, there's this ground swell of hey,
let's help out Lebron get to Golden State. When Lebron
created what he has in front of him, including drafting
his son, getting Ad and everybody else involved, and getting
JJ Reddick as his coach, why are we all of
a sudden like, yeah, you know, Lebron would be nice
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if he went out with Golden State and Steph curR.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Yeah, I think his both teams are desperate. Like when
you watch the Warriors, it was such a great start
and you kind of thought, like, is an NBA team
really a title contending team based on just depth? Right?
One guy? Like, I think you're probably the same way
as me as when I think about really special NBA
teams in a season with a chance to win championship,
I'm like, who's the second guy that can get you
buckets when the other guy can't? And Golden State doesn't
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really even have that guy. Lebron can score right now,
but defensively, he's somebody that has attacked. He had this
incredible stretch when they were winning all those games. You
could talk about it being an easier schedule, but I
couldn't believe the effort that he was playing with. And
I don't know if he was after that, just exertion
of energy, just having a hard time after the fact. Look, Dan,
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I actually feel I'm torn all the time with Lebron
because he's out on the floor. We talk about the
Lakers and we have to factor them as a contender.
So I almost feel guilty when I'm critical of the
nightly production or the lack of defense, because at the
same time, like the way he has pushed the boundaries
to what we think is possible for a basketball player.
It's so impressive that I get just caught in this
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circle of what am I supposed to do? But if
you're talking about the Lakers right now, they're not good enough.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
But I don't know if we do this, like Larry
Bird wasn't a good defender, Like would we be crushing
Larry Bird now at the end of his career by saying,
you know they're going after Larry and you know he
he hurry I don't know, it feels like Lebron it
just attracts, you know, detractors like there's it's just they're
looking for negatives with Lebron.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Yeah, I think a lot of that is the social
media part of it. And I also think that it's
a very political thing with Jordan Lebron. You know, I've
yet to see anybody change their mind ever, I've yet
to ever see anybody not just sort of push propaganda.
And then when I think about, like I saw comparison
the other day between MJ's last Wizard season where I
always felt like the Jordan Wizard seasons were even more
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of an argument for how special he was. Like if
you go back to that next year, like the first
year he played, he wasn't as good and in the
final year, you know, look like what did you expect?
And now and I'll see people compare like, well, do
you realize that Jordan had this number of Lebron's. I'm like, dude,
are you seriously were two decades in on this and
the forty year old seasons are the ones that are
going to break the tie. So yeah, maybe I just
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think Lebron's status and his fame probably leads it to
a different level of scrutiny than say a bird, but
it's also just what it is today. I mean, these
guys deal with hate and ways that generations have never experienced.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
Who's the best player in the NBA.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
It's Jo Kisch. I don't really think it's uh. I
hate that, you know. I always feel like every good
point is ruined by somebody saying I don't think it's close.
But his control of a basketball game is unlike anything
I've seen in a long time. And you could you
could throw a peak Lebron into that as well. I
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was out in Denver and I saw him again live.
There was a game there. I'd go to Colorado regularly.
There was a night where they were playing the Wizards,
and I just asked. I was like, can I get
a ticket? And I got a ticket. I was like, well,
it's the Wizard. So all I want to do is
watch Jokich. I just want to watch him. I'm gonna
watch him off the ball, I'm gonna watch him with
the ball. All I want to do is just watch
him and his understanding and the way he dissects all
of these different things. And what I always love too
(05:01):
is like it's a bit like Steph, it's a bit
like Nash. Jokic could take twenty two shots a game
and they'd be good games, and they'd be good looks.
He was second in the MVP voting the one year
he didn't win it to MBID, and he took fourteen
point seven shots per game. That's special to control a
basketball game for the thirty plus minutes that you're out there,
and his priorities actually not to try to find a
way to get buckets, even though he could every single time.
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I just I know Giannis is on a tear right now.
He was so impressive last night. But I love the
way Jokic. I think this is like rarefied stuff, and
I'm rooting for him to have a second ring in
a way I wouldn't root for a lot of players
because I want him to be accepted by I think
what becomes way too simple of a conversation of who
the great ones are.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Yeah, I agree with you, but I think Denver did
him a disservice. They didn't strengthen around him, and I
don't think he's going to win a ring unless they
get Jimmy Butler or somebody like that. You know, maybe
they that roster is not threatening, they're kind of an
average team. But I don't know if he's He's putting
up incredible numbers that are hard to ignore even though
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his team, WE like team success to coincide with greatness,
and I don't think that he's going to have his
team is going to let him down for another MVP.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
I hope it's not Butler. You know, if he has
a fifty million dollar player option next year, it kind
of gets back to your original point, Dan too, of
like would Lebron like to go to Golden State? It's like,
is that a solution or is that desperation? Is the
team that wants Jimmy Butler at the stage of his career.
Is that a solution to what you're doing? Or you're
talking about somebody who decides he's going to be a
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huge problem until he gets the contract extension. Now his
agent had said, Hey, I'm gonna opt out whatever. It
was just funny because I was looking at Jimmy Butler's
numbers the other day. Jimmy Butler's taking eleven shots a game,
and he's somehow taking seven and a half free throws
a game. So it's it's kind of working. But if
I'm traded for Jimmy at this age, I'm going to
need I'm gonna need a few more shot attempts because
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there's certain nights that looks like where I don't know
if he's pacing himself or he's not super interested.
Speaker 5 (07:06):
What do you think about this proposal?
Speaker 2 (07:08):
If I asked the commissioner, can we do away with
the three point shot for a week in the NBA.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
I'm open to anything now at this point. Okay, I
really love the nd season Tournament. I think it's a
home run. I think silver and everybody like I watch
games and I feel like it's more intense than maybe
you would think this time of year. So that is
like a ten out of ten. The playing thing I
didn't love because I think certain years you're gonna have
teams that won like thirty six thirty seven games in
the East and like they get another run at this.
(07:39):
You know, I'm upset about some of the college football expansion,
but this, the event planning, is basically what I'm leading
here too. I'm I think this is where all of
this stuff is going. I would love a week of this. However,
I would ask a lot of old school people like
this because I know that your old school, Dan, I
don't mean an age, I mean in education. Do you
(08:00):
miss post play? Do you do? You watch games now
and be like, you know, I just would love to
see a Rick Smith's baseline entry pass right now? Do
you miss it?
Speaker 5 (08:08):
Okay? Hold on? Hold on? So you don't miss a
chem Olajuan in the post.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Of course I miss it.
Speaker 5 (08:14):
You don't miss Shack in the post.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
I don't know that Shaq and the post was a
keen to me was more entertaining than Shaq was McHale.
All right, fine, like, let's go through it all. But
I don't I don't know if I miss two man
basketball entry pass on the block, three guys watching never moving?
Speaker 5 (08:36):
Do you miss the mid range jumper? Ryan?
Speaker 6 (08:42):
No?
Speaker 3 (08:42):
If I do? Just watch the Phoenix Suns.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Yeah, Kevin Durant absolutely, or you see what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Because I think you're right, Like the three point part
of this is kind of messed it up, right. There
are nights where I go, WHOA, this isn't this isn't
the best. I can't leave how quick some of the
shots are, some of the threes, I'm like, I get
you want to take a lot of threes. But are
these good shot decisions? We're even ready for the shot.
But I wonder sometimes if we glorify just some I
(09:11):
mean the Mark Jackson rule. It was like, hey, your
post ups take so long, we have to pass the rule.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
You're too boringly efficient. We must take that out of
the game. How about you get a twenty five to
three pointers attempts each game?
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Yeah, kind of like a short porch for a men's
softball league.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Use use you know, sparingly save for the fourth quarter.
Maybe you could keep it in without it being There
are a lot of teams that shoot threes. There's a
lot of teams that shouldn't shoot threes. But that's the
that's the whole math part of this.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Would Jordan Poole be cut that day?
Speaker 5 (09:56):
He might be punched again?
Speaker 3 (09:58):
All right?
Speaker 2 (09:59):
I build up this spence the drama of you. So
what year was this that you were trying to hook
up with Megan Markle?
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Well?
Speaker 3 (10:08):
I think I was asking her if she had an
interest in promoting suits.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
So there was that Okay, let's start with the game.
Let's start with the game.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Because you weren't talking promoting suits on your radio show
at the game, were you.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
No, No, I got invited to play in the Direct
TV's flag football thing. You know. I was easily, I think,
the least famous person that played in it. But ESPN
usually would get somebody to play in the game because
Direct TV would want someone on the air to talk
about it. I think I asked for five grand and
they said how about zero because everybody was getting paid.
And then they told me they'd get me tickets to
(10:43):
their DirecTV concert for the Super Bowl party. And then
I went to get the tickets. They weren't even there
for me, so they stipped me on the tickets too,
So it was it was bad. It was a bad,
bad run for your boy. But Ben put were doing
the show.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Okay, first time you meet her though, so the first
time you see her on the on the are you
teammates on the beach or teammates?
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Okay, yep, blue team, So there's Jesse Palmer was my
quarterback and we're buddies, so that helped a little bit.
And no, I look, there was a million swimsuit models
from Sports Illustrated. I think Christy Tigen was on one
of the teams. Serena Williams, although I think she was
smart as a world class athlete to not run around
(11:23):
on the sand and play flag football. So there was
just all these models everywhere, and it was also a
lot of the athletes, you know. So I was playing
defense in the first half, which is a funny story
because Joe Montana was our coach and she was playing defense.
When we get subbed out, we were just kind of
bored off to the side and we were just kind
(11:44):
of talking about it because nobody was talking to me,
and you know, I don't know, she just was. She
was very girl next doorsh And then I went up
to Joe Montana and was like, Hey, is there anyway
because you know how the radio show works. If I
go back on Monday with Van Pelton, I don't have
a catch. I'm gonna get crushed for three hours. So
I I go to Montana, who I had met luckily
once before, so there was some It wasn't out of nowhere,
(12:04):
although we didn't love my request. I was like, is
there anyway I can get like one possession on offense
started me for the radio show, and Montana turns to
me and goes, well, you know, we got La Danny
and Tomlinson an TONI Gazalez too bleep in Hall of Famers, Ryan,
but let's get you out there for a possession. So
I finally go to Palmer, I go just throw me,
give me one route and throw me the ball. I
(12:26):
make a catch and then I'd come back and you know,
we'd all high five, and then I ended up catching
the game winning touchdown, which I still feel bad about
because I like spiked the ball in front of Desmond
Howard and he hasn't talked to me in like ten years.
And I don't blame him too, because he was like
I was a little bit too much. And then girls
were coming up to high five me, and I still
was so locked in on the game when he touchdown
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that I just started like marching through everybody, like couldn't
be faced. So anyway, the game is over, confetti rains down,
and then she and I were like waiting for our
cars to bring us back because they'd organized all of
our transportation. And I was like, hey, you know, great
meeting you whatever, and then we followed each other and
I all I did was was asked if she wanted
(13:08):
to come on the show with Van Pelton I to
promote suits, and she said no, And that's it. I've
told this story a couple of times. But the funniest
part of this whole thing is it years later we
know how like Pierce Morgan went on this weird sharing
episode of like how he thought he was going to
date her, Remember that, and he would he would talk
about it. So because CHRISA. Thompson and Sarah Walsh, who
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we both worked with at ESPN and are really good friends,
they knew the story. They thought it was hilarious that
I asked her to come on the TV show or
our TV show to promote hers and she said no.
That I ended up seeing these Pierce Morgan tweets and
then I would just tweet above his like hey, I
know you don't believe me, but it does get better.
And that was that was kind of the inside Joe.
(13:52):
And so I did it a third time, like a
year ago, where I was like, I am here for
you if you need anything, Pierce, and he never responded,
nor would I expect him to. I get a text
from a different coworker who is like, I don't understand
your problem here. I think you're fine, like a real
pick me up text, and I'm sitting home and by
my and I read this text and I go, I
(14:14):
can't believe Jeff Van Gundy just texted me about to
pick me up kind of boost me up. That it's
okay that Markle didn't want to and he didn't know
the story, so he actually sort of peers Morgan me
or I don't know how it works.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
He had a shot though. You said you thought she
was obtainable.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
No, I think, well that was a live show, so
we been playing it to the crowd there a little bit,
so there could be a semantics debate on that one. Uh.
I felt like because it was like Hannah Davis and
Nina Dobrev and Agdall I think was the track, Yeah, yeah,
it was. It was. It was a five star recruiting class,
(14:53):
and so because of that and the other athletes, like
we were just off to the side a bunch kind
of of being like who are they? And so it
was just you know, who knows. It could have been
the start to our story. But I now think, armed
with this much information, I'm not sure that I could
provided the life she needed.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Okay, if I gave you a mulligan, what would you
have done differently?
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Well, you could argue that a hair transplant, but I
think the hair is not a priority to her. No hair,
he's holding on for dear life. Yeah, so I don't
think it's that. I don't know what else I could do.
You know, I talked to Joe Montana to putting me
on offense. I caught the game winning touchdown. Obviously the
competitive it maybe I was too competitive. Oh, I think
(15:38):
you've been accused of that. And I could see being
locked in. I could see that it was very important
to you. You just didn't celebrate the way you're supposed to.
It should have been. Yeah, I've been here before. And
then you walk up to her and you say, hey,
how about we go celebrate together with that tone? Yeah
noe for note? Yeah yeah, yeah, I don't I don't
(16:02):
think that was going to happen. I think she lived
in New York City too, so it was like a
it wasn't a huge a huge.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
She actually left the country after this because you run.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Wow, I didn't think it was going to go there.
Well it was.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
She went to England to get away from you.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Honestly, there's probably somebody from USA network listeners right now
being like we would have loved to promote suits.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Hey, it's made a comeback. It's like crazy, you know,
It's like, hey, have you seen suits? I said, yeah,
ten years ago. Does anybody think that Ryan had a
shot here? Let me go around the room here, I
just I'll say, no, Pauli's got his hand on.
Speaker 6 (16:39):
I think Ryan, you would have had a decent shot
at that time. You're a confident guy, and I think
you could have played it up in that moment and
maybe gotten a dinner.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
I really don't think so. I don't think so. You know,
I'm sure I think at that point my name was
on the show because that was always a tough one.
Like what do you do? I host a radio show
where at ESPN. What's it called the Scott Van Help Show?
Speaker 5 (17:07):
Are you Scott Van Pelt? No?
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Yes, wow, get your drink. Well, keep fighting the good fight.
You know, we're proud of you. You took a shot
kind of yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Look, I mean I would say now that the home
base is a little bit better of a cell than
have a three bedroom townhouse in West Harford. But they
mow HOA does a good job at the lawn and
the plowing and stuff. And you know, now we're situated
out here in Manhattan Beach still three bedroom.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
But you know, no, h you could have made her happy.
She could have been behind you cooking breakfast right now.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Yeah, or you know, I'm not real married to Roles.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Maybe I would cook, that'd be nice. Yeah, i'd be
interviewing her. But I'm glad you got your name on
your show though. That was big. That was big and
the touchdown. Thanks for joining us, Thanks for sharing.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Hey, you're the only person I do it for. You
know how much I like you. I miss all the guys,
So thanks Dan, Thank you Ryan.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAP.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
In case you're watching Hunk Pea Con, this is the
greatest makes you're watching on peacock.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
I got my cameraman in here. Weeks is.
Speaker 7 (18:33):
They just took a much better camera angle than the
original one.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
It looked like you're doing a duet.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
He was. He was helping me with my computer. He
does a lot of things here.
Speaker 6 (18:43):
It looked like one of those zoom calls where a
kid walks into the room.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Get out of here, kid.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Yeah, so weeks my cameraman was helping me with my computer.
Speaker 8 (18:53):
Yes, Marvin, he is now definitely the winner of almost
Valuable BRG.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
I don't know what.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
It's still open.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
He runs the camera and he just did that. I know.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
I know well, Mary and I did tell him thirty
minutes ago to do this. Oh yeah, oh boy, you
see what happened.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
I'm gonna moon walk away from that.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
Yes, you will.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
He's got other responsibility. Can't just come running in and
fix the computer.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
Todd, quiet as Paul, But did that happen?
Speaker 6 (19:22):
You've been hosting TV a long time at Sports Center,
had to be, especially in the earlier days, moments before
going on air, Catastrophe lights power, did you guys have
a few of those?
Speaker 5 (19:33):
We had a roof leaking one time above you, like
right above you.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Yeah, yeah, and we put a cup out on Sports Center,
so it's just dripping drip.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
So we just did Sports.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Center and then we would pour out the cup and
then you just continue to do it. You were doing
it for an hour, yes, Paul.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
I remember one.
Speaker 6 (19:52):
We were two thousand and four ALCS Yankee Stadium. You
were co hosting the six o'clock Sports Center and moments before,
maybe about a half an hour for going on the air.
The telep they had these little baby teleprompters to help
you go the ins and outs of Sports Center, and
they just you know, craft the bed. They weren't working,
and so a bunch of people had to write on
blue cards, not the script of Sports Center, but the
(20:14):
ins and outs of the brakes, and you were being
handed them from under a table. Like there was a
guy down there named who are his name's not relevant,
but like he was off Cameron handing these blue cards
up to you, and you were seamlessly going coming up next,
we'll talk to Tito Francona and see what they can
come back, and then this is Sports Center, and then
it was just a it was wild scene.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
I remember doing the NBA Draft and I had somebody
right down beneath me because I wanted to know the picks.
I didn't want to jump the pick. I wanted to
know what it was. So when it was announced that
I immediately could go to my research there. But it wasn't
one of those where I go, you know, I think
Portland's going to take somebody from Washington State. It wasn't
(20:54):
anything like that because you can get that information if
you want to. But I had somebody underneath down, you know,
for hours, just sat there scribbling, and then they would
and Commissioner Stern would announced the pick and then you
know he put his hand up and you know, give
me the card, and I'd go, Jay Billis joins us, Now, Jay,
what can you tell us about Brandon Roy?
Speaker 7 (21:15):
Yeah, that's one of my favorite parts of any draft
is when you can tell now the moment that they oh,
that's where they just got the news. It'll be graphics
and everybody's talking about I mean, this offense is a mess.
You got to start from ground zer here. You got
to rebuild, you gotta. But would be surprised if they
go Edge Rusher. I know, Ah, that's where they just
got the info. Well, Chris Berman used to go, a
(21:37):
little birdie.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
Is telling me that they like running back and then.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
The Eagles announce their take it, you know, and he'd
be like, uh, already, But you can find out the
information if you want it.
Speaker 9 (21:52):
A little birdie told me the Patriots like a quarterback
out of Michigan and the Patriot stake. Tom Brady alright,
good morning to all of our radio affiliates around the country,
over four hundred cities in America with this program coming up,
(22:13):
Albert Breer The Monday Morning Quarterback.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
More on the Bill Belichick situation. Also Ryan Rossillo obtainable
Ryan Rossillo podcast. But yesterday a story came out that
apparently he was going to make the move on Megan Markle,
the Duchess of Sussex, hoping to have some sussex with her,
(22:38):
and he will join us. We were at the Direct
TV Celebrity Beach Bowl and he was playing in it.
Meghan Markele was in the show suits and there are
a lot of famous, beautiful people there and Ryan Rossillo,
and Ryan was thinking that Megan Markle was good to go, Like,
(22:58):
you know, he could stare in her eyes. Now there
is a picture where it's just Ryan and it's Megan
Markle on the football field or on the beach on
the sand, and it just does two and there's a
nice little smile that she has there. So Ryan will
join us coming up a little bit later on we
say good morning. Obviously the radio partners and Peacock is well,
(23:22):
Fox Sports Radio, iHeartRadio as well. The NFL Winter meetings
are in Dallas, I'm not sure exactly what they're doing
over the next two days, but Albert Breer will join
us from Dallas. The transfer portal wide open, ready for business.
We've said this the last couple of years. Lane Kiffin
just came out and said, why is the transfer portal
(23:44):
open right now during bull season? Well, we're getting towards
the end of semesters for most universities. I'm guessing they
were trying to tie it into that. This is what's happening,
just to let you know. With bull season there are
players that gootiating to either stay or they're going to
go to another school. And my source said last night,
(24:06):
do you know there's going to be two players now?
He told me last year three players Marquee players were
playing it, getting ready to play in bowl games, but
negotiating with another school, and the schools said, we don't
want you to play in the bull games. So he
said there's two players that are you know, he said
not prominent because he said, I don't know if your audience.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
Will know them, but we know them.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
They're negotiating with another school right now, and the schools
are saying you can't play in the ballgame. So you
put these kids in this situation. Where would I play
in a bowl game if I'm going to another university.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
No, I would not.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
If I thought I had pro potential or I was
going to get paid when I go to another school,
I wouldn't. Like, you do everything for the regular season.
That's what you're supposed to do. You know, the fans suffer.
That's what this is about. I don't know if you're
tuning into bowl games now necessary to see players as
much as like the Pop Tart Bowl? Who remembers who
(25:08):
was in the Pop Tart.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
Bowl last year?
Speaker 2 (25:10):
How about the the Mayo Bowl? Who was in that?
The Bahamas Bowl. It's just it takes up three hours.
ESPN needs the programming. And go back to Leonard Fournette
and Christian McCaffrey. They didn't play. Oh my god, you
got to play. They're business people. Why is it business
(25:33):
for everybody else? But it can't be for the kids.
And that's how they're viewing this. You're going to have
players who are going to opt out of the Bull
Game because they're going to transfer now, Dion said. Travis
Hunter and his son Shador are going to play in
the Bull Game. That'd be a great conversation. If Shador said, hey, Dad,
I don't want to play. I want to be healthy
(25:53):
when I go to the Raiders, I'd love to hear
Prime and his son talking. So obviously he's going to play.
Travis Hunter says he's going to play as well. But
it's bull season, it's transfer portal season, and it's unfortunate
because it shouldn't be happening right now. We brought it
up last year. I don't know if there was any
(26:15):
movement inside to go, hey guys, why are.
Speaker 5 (26:18):
We doing it at this point of the season.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
You have now you have more teams playing in the playoffs,
so that means more kids have more decisions to make
of do I want to play in the bowl season?
How much do I want to play? Because you could
be playing four more games depending on your success, and
I think that's unfortunate because the bowl games, I know,
(26:44):
this is really big to a lot of cities and
some small cities that are hosting a Bowl game. It's
important to them, you know, the local economy all of that.
Speaker 5 (26:56):
And I know we make fun.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Of the pool and weed eater and some of those,
but they are important. You know, the outback, well, it
is important to these cities, but I don't tune in
going anymore. Where I go got to see that guy
because that guy may not want to play, or that
guy may be ready to transfer. And I think you're
gonna see more and more of that, and you have
(27:19):
the transfer portal at this time unless they change that,
I think you're going to have more of this. Who's
playing you're actually tuning in for the school, maybe a coach,
maybe a quarterback, But there's already guys who are dropping out.
Speaker 6 (27:35):
Yeah, Paul, I think what bothers college football fans, and
I could speak as a college football fan, is that, yeah,
you're getting paid. I don't think most people have problems
with athletes getting paid in college I think the problem
is why don't they have to honor contracts and finish
out contracts? If these are contracts, these nil deals. Like
if you're a player for the Cincinnati Bengals and you
don't make the playoffs, so you're ineligible. Let's say you're
(27:56):
don't make it. You can't just leave the team in
week sixty. You have a contract to finish out the season.
Why can a player for Old Miss leave now and
not finish out the season? There should be a similar
thing with your NIL deal, that you finish out the deal,
your season with NIL which is approved by NCAA or
NIL deals are approved by NCAA. You finish the season,
(28:18):
and then you enter the portal and do whatever you
want and go to the next team.
Speaker 5 (28:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (28:21):
Seed, I'm not saying that I agree with this necessarily,
but it's possible that in the contract they did finish
the season.
Speaker 5 (28:28):
Now there's this extra game that they're supposed to play.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Correct.
Speaker 5 (28:31):
Here's here's the problem I have with it.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Though.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Let's say you sign an NIL deal, what constitutes your season.
You may be playing in four more games, have four
more than other people are playing in. Hey, you're going
to play in the playoffs. Well do these kids? How
much do they care about that? I got to play
(28:54):
four more but I'm not getting paid more.
Speaker 6 (28:57):
But I would negotiate that as escalators your NIL deal,
If you make the playoffs, you get bonus money.
Speaker 5 (29:03):
They want to make the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Well, this is for the schools, Like all of this
is the wild wild West. It just feels like nobody's
thought of anything until they think of something and they're like,
oh my god, this is crazy. The transfer portals open wait,
kids don't want to play in the ball game. Yes, yes,
so they almost have to go through this to go okay.
(29:26):
And we went through this last year with a transfer portal.
What happened nothing this year?
Speaker 5 (29:32):
Nothing.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Here's Lane Kiffin bringing it up, and I'm going, Yes,
this happened last year, It'll continue to happen, Lane, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
I think that.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
I think it.
Speaker 7 (29:42):
Obviously, it's going to take a few years for all
of this to shake out because every year you identify
new issues, whether it's with.
Speaker 5 (29:48):
The transfer port or nil. Now the playoff system.
Speaker 7 (29:51):
You know, but if you're going to put that into
people's contracts or whatever, you think A kid at Indiana
was like, I need a playoff bonus really, really, Charlie,
you know, you probably don't think you're going there. I
don't know, maybe Boise State, maybe SMU. You really think
kids holding out for like another hundred grand because wow,
what if we make it to the playoff?
Speaker 5 (30:11):
Probably not.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
But you have players who are negotiating staying South Carolina.
One of their better defensive players and edge rusher re
signed to stay at South Carolina.
Speaker 5 (30:23):
Great, no, right, but that's what is going on now, that's.
Speaker 7 (30:27):
What we want, right, Players to stay longer.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
Yes, yes, great, but they're negotiating.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
You could have somebody at one of these Bull eligible
schools or playing in the playoffs going, I don't know
if I'm gonna stay or I want to be paid.
I want to be paid more for the playoffs. Great,
It's just it makes it's a mess with this of
(30:52):
trying to do you know, can you put clauses in
these contracts that say, hey, if we make it to
the twelve team playoff, you get paid commensurate to how
far we go.
Speaker 5 (31:04):
Right?
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Yeah, but college football is in the dark ages still
with this. They're not advanced with this. That's why it's
a mess with Lane Kiffin. It's been coaching for decades
and he didn't see that this was an issue. You
bring up the transfer portal now or kids are going
to play in possibly three or four more games. And look,
(31:27):
I know Lane didn't create the rules, but he knew
the rule was in place. Why are we waiting until
what's going to happen now? And then when the Bull
season ends? Does Lane Kiffin go, Hey, guys, I brought
this up in December. I want to make sure that
we address this. Hey, I brought this up in January,
I brought this up in Mark, this is when you
do this, stay with it, you want to correct it. Great,
(31:49):
then we don't have a transfer portal issue. Yes, I
think those three things are massive changes in college football.
So I think I think it's fair to think to
understand that not everybody saw the challenges that were going
to come through.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Right.
Speaker 7 (32:04):
Nil is a massive change. The transfer portal is a
huge change. The college football Playoff is a massive change
having twelve teams. So I don't know that when NIL
was first announced, almost universally the reaction was like, oh great,
so now Clemson and Alabama are going to win every
year and we just completely destroyed college football. And really
it had the exact opposite effect. It leveled the playing
(32:25):
field more than you could possibly imagine, where Alabama's not
even in the twelve team and Clemson kind of back
to their way in they got lucky to be in.
Speaker 5 (32:33):
So well, okay, I'll go back to when this started.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
A Hall of Fame caliber coach questioned why we would
pay offensive lineman? What are you going to give them
free pizza? Was what I was told, And I go,
you are crazy. You build with your offensive and defensive line,
a Hall of Fame caliber coach who said this to me.
So they weren't even aware back then, and once they just.
Speaker 7 (32:56):
Look at the NFL and see if offensive lineman make
any money. And then now you're going to know, oh, well,
this is what their value is.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
But that's where we're here in the transfer portal and
guys are sitting out. Christian McCaffrey sawt sat out, so
did Leonard Fournette. And that wasn't even transfer portal. That
was just these guys preserving themselves and at running back,
I can't blame you. So it's tricky. Do we have contracts?
What do you put in with the playoff with a
(33:24):
bowl bonus? I don't know, but that's what I would
be at least aware of. And the transfer portal this
late in the year.
Speaker 8 (33:32):
Yes, part that's like when a Jake Budd at Michigan
got hurt. Like see see that's why first round draft
picks don't play in these quote unquote meaningless ball games.
If you're not playing a national championship, I don't need
to play in this bowl game. Let me get ready
for the NFL.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Yeah, if you're at Alabama and you're going into the
NFL first round. Are you going to play against Michigan
in a bowl game?
Speaker 3 (33:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
I know it's up to the individual, but I can
only imagine if I'm a first round draft pick rolling
in the dice every time you play, and now you're
gonna ask these kids to play two, three, maybe four
more games. I know you're playing for a national championship.
This is about business. It's business all around, and it's
(34:15):
gonna be business for the kids as well, and it
should be.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
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Speaker 2 (34:30):
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the league meetings in Irving, Texas. Let me ask you
about that gas to know Brett Favre confrontation. Go back
to two when it happened. I don't know how big
of a deal it was. When you know far of
gift wrap that sack for Michael Strahand.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
I mean, I think everybody sort of saw it as
a cute thing.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
If I remember right right, Like I was.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
Just out of college, and I like I definitely remember
everybody laughing about it after, you know, like I never
thought that. I never thought somebody takes such offense to it.
And then for Brett to come out and apologize the
way that he did on Twitter and like putting like
real life context on it, you know what I mean,
(35:17):
and like saying like how it actually might have cost
cast no money. I hadn't thought about that aspect of it.
It was weird because, like I think, I don't know
if you got this feeling watching it, Dan, but like
when I saw it, like at first, like farfetd that
look on his face like like he thought he was joking,
and then like like slowly started to realize like no,
(35:38):
this guy's actually serious about this, which I think everybody
watched it thought like Okay, like is he gonna at
some point here kind of like let us guard down
just say ah, I'm just messing around, you know what
I mean. So it was just a weird, weird, weird confermation.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Okay, what if whoever the Eagles play at the end
of the season and Tae Kwon Barkley as a chance
to break Eric Dickerson's all time record. Yeah, and all
of a sudden they let him have his seven yard run. Yeah,
anybody's gonna have a problem with them.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
I mean, I'm thinking the current players will, you know,
I mean maybe Eric dicker I wouldn't have said Eric
Dickerson would, but like maybe he will.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
I would if I'm Eric Dickerson and be like, wait,
you're just gonna let him run and break my record?
Speaker 5 (36:23):
I get, I'm right.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
It's trying to understand what these thords mean to these players,
you know what.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
I think. The other thing is too, that's sort of
interesting about it, is like how all these guys are
friends now and it's been that way for a long time.
It's not like that's new, you know what I mean. Like,
but I do think like the athletes from my childhood,
like you know, I for me, like the one I remember.
It's like all the basketball rivalries, how those teams genuinely
seem to hate each other, you know, the Pistons and
the Celtics and the Bulls and the Lakers, like they
(36:51):
genuinely seem to.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
Not like each other.
Speaker 4 (36:54):
And at some point along the line that changed. And
I think, I don't know, like what what do you
think you have better handle on this?
Speaker 3 (37:00):
To me?
Speaker 4 (37:00):
Probably like late nineties, maybe somewhere in there, like it
started to be like these guys all had the same
agents or the same.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
I think magic and Isaiah.
Speaker 5 (37:10):
I think I think that changed.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
When you give each other a kiss on the cheek
for a jump ball and you're playing in an NBA finals,
you got my attention there, of Okay, maybe maybe it's
not the Bulls Pistons rivalry, and it felt like there
was a little it was okay to be friends with
somebody even though you wanted to beat them, right.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
So I think that that sort of of I mean,
I think that's probably the divide here too, right, Like
is like that like to use your example, like no
one in nineteen eighty four was giving Eric Dickerson those
seven yards. No one was giving Mark Asteneo the extra sack,
you know, and I mean far from straighthand everybody knew
(37:51):
like how friendly those.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
Two were, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (37:54):
So could I see and I'd have to look up
with the Eagles are playing in week eighteen, I don't
have it right in front of me.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
But you know, could I see?
Speaker 4 (38:02):
I don't know, like a defensive coach who knows Saquan
saying like yeah, well, we'll uh, we'll cook this one
for you a little bit. Certainly that could happen, Like
that's I think it's just like sort of a change
in the relationship between players on different teams over the
last thirty or forty years.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
All right, help me understand, Uh Chapel Bill here with
North Carolina, Like.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
I haven't heard that one. That's pretty good.
Speaker 5 (38:25):
Yeah, what do we? Uh? What's what's holding this up?
Speaker 4 (38:30):
I think I think money right now is a factor,
like how much you're gonna pay him, how much you're
going to resource the program, what you're gonna be able
to give him from an nil standpoint, all of that.
Like I I also like in the back of my head,
you know, because I I had a feeling like something
could happen last night, and now this is starting to
drag out a little bit, so you know, there's always
(38:51):
that in the back of your head, like does he
just making.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
Sure be before.
Speaker 4 (38:55):
He does something that like some NFL team isn't going
to call and say like, well wait a minute, Bill,
Like maybe we can't guarantee anything, but you might want
to wait a few weeks here.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
You know what I mean, Like, could that happen?
Speaker 4 (39:06):
I think that's certainly possible too, because I think his
preference probably still is to stay in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
But I thought that this was basically the NFL saying Bill,
we don't want you. No.
Speaker 4 (39:17):
I would say, here's here's the way I would look
at it, Like, I think the simplest, most compact way
to explain it is Bill was stunned by the lack
of interest last year, right, Like, so you had you
had six jobs open, not including New England, which obviously
was the one that let him go, and he only
got interest really from one team, and then the bureaucracy
(39:38):
of that team got in the way of him getting
that job. And so now after a year, he's got
the thirty thousand foot view of the league. He's gotten
to see it the way a lot of these teams operate,
take a closer look at like how each team is
affected by all that factors inside their organizations. And he's
looking at the jobs that are open, and it's like, okay, Like,
so if I go to Chicago, I got to work
(39:59):
for Kevin Warren and with Ryan Poles. If I go
to the Jets, I've got to work with Whatdy Johnson.
And I think it's like sort of this calculus of
like every team's not going to want me because that's
the way it was last year, and of the ones
that do want me, am I going to want them?
Speaker 3 (40:17):
You know?
Speaker 4 (40:17):
Like, like is that path to the right job going
to be there for me? And can I count on that?
And I think Bill badly wants to coach next year,
and so you know, I like, I think he sees
that it's like sort of a narrow path, the perfect
situation where things are set up exactly the way that
he wants it with an NFL team. Meanwhile, you know,
I think you know, over the last two three months,
(40:39):
he and the people around him have done a lot
of research on college jobs and what those look like.
And I think what they found is that it's closer
to the NFL than it ever has been before. The
challenges are and they may have an advantage because NIL
is salary cap, because transfer portal is free agency, and
because you might be able to get things up and
running faster. I've heard a lot of people the recruiting argument,
(41:00):
right Dan, Like, I'm sure you know you've heard that rightly?
Does he want to go into an eighteen year old's
house eighteen year old house and recruit.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
Do you know how many of those visits Dion Sanders.
Speaker 5 (41:09):
They don't do that. They don't zero, Yes, they don't
do that.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
All of a sudden, you go, Mom and Dad. Bill
Belichick's on his zoom call. Hey, Tommy, just want to say,
you know, come on in, who's more likely to coach
in the NFL, Dion or Belichick next season?
Speaker 4 (41:27):
I think Belichick. I think Belichick. I like I think Dean.
I think Dean will be back at Colorado next year, unless,
like Florida State comes open. But I think I think
Deon probably be back at Colorado next year. I Bill,
I think, I mean, I think he could do a
deal with North Carolina today.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
I think he could pull out of that today.
Speaker 4 (41:48):
You know, I think that all things are sort of
on the table today. I think I think all.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
Things are on the table.
Speaker 4 (41:53):
I think again, I think his preference is to coach
in the NFL. But like, I don't think he wants
to put it this way. I don't think he wants
to walk into a bleep show where he doesn't think
he's got a great chance to win and suffer the
indignity of being fifteen wins away. From Don Shula and
not being able to get there because of the environment
(42:13):
that he's working in.
Speaker 3 (42:14):
Does that make sense?
Speaker 4 (42:15):
Yes, Yes, So I think he wants Schule's record. He's
a historian of the game. I think it's bs that
he I think he wants the record.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
Yeah, But the reason why there's an opening is because
that team has been a bleep show.
Speaker 5 (42:27):
Like he goes into Jacksonville.
Speaker 3 (42:29):
This, I think is what he started. I think that's
what he's starting to realize.
Speaker 4 (42:32):
Yes, I'm not saying I'm not saying like a bleep show,
Like is it a bleep show that's going to remain
a bleep show after? Like are the reasons for it
being a bleep show still in place when you're walking in,
or are you gonna have the opportunity to clean it up?
Speaker 3 (42:46):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (42:48):
He may look at it bleep show. I appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (42:50):
Yeah, he may.
Speaker 4 (42:52):
He may have Like he may like if he goes
into a place where it's like, we're clearing the decks
for you, Bill, and it was a bleep show, but
we're going to give you every resource to fix it,
versus like another place where maybe some of the people
who are responsible for the bleep show are still going
to be part of football decisions.
Speaker 3 (43:06):
Those are two very different things.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
Chuck and Albert Breer, Monday Morning Quarterbacks, Senior NFL reporter.
Do the Vikings have a dilemma at quarterback?
Speaker 3 (43:15):
Yes? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (43:16):
Is it a good dilemma?
Speaker 4 (43:18):
It's a Champagne problem, It's a shamp there's a Dom
Perryon problem. Look like, I think we need to stop
it with like expecting the other shoot to drop with
Sam Donold, he's just a really good player, you know
who was in a bad situation. We saw Gino Smith
and the renaissance of his career in Seattle. It'd be
hard for any quarterback to overcome some of the things
(43:40):
that Gino and Sam went through over that period of
time in New York. And I think you know what
you're seeing is the nature versus nurture thing.
Speaker 3 (43:46):
Play out in real time.
Speaker 4 (43:48):
And you know, it's eleven games, I believe where he's
had a triple digit passer rating.
Speaker 3 (43:53):
That's a franchise record.
Speaker 4 (43:54):
He had the highest passer rating in the history of
the franchise on Sunday. Yes, part of it is that
he's throwing adjust Jefferson and Jordan Asen. But part of
it is that he's becoming a really good player and
he's with a coach that that that's built an offense
that works for him, and Kevin O'Connell deserves a ton
of credit. So I think what's tricky about this one
is they love where JJ McCarthy was Dan in August
(44:15):
when he got hurt, so and they really believe in him.
The problem is that you like now like it's just
as far as he's going to be in May and
June and July, like you're projecting. You haven't gotten to
see the development on the bench over September and October,
November and December, and so you are to some degree
projecting where he's going to be. And when you've got
(44:37):
a team that's clearly in a window where it can
win right now, do you owe it to the veteran
players to at least give yourself the insurance policy of
bringing Sam Donald back for a year on the franchise tag,
or do you look at it and say, we believe
enough in JJ McCarthy, this is going to work out.
We believe that we're going to be able to get
him up and running the same way we were able
(44:58):
to get Sam Donald up and running, and we love
Sam Darnold, but we want to have the advantage of
having the quarterback on the rookie contract. So love you Sam,
rooting for you go find another.
Speaker 3 (45:09):
Team to play for.
Speaker 4 (45:09):
It's it's an interesting question, you know, And I do
think the franchise tag is it's going to be over
forty million dollars for quarterbacks this year, So like, are.
Speaker 3 (45:19):
You willing to pay.
Speaker 4 (45:22):
A forty million dollar tab to make sure that you're
buttoned up at the most important position on the field
with the team that's ready to contend in the here
and the now.
Speaker 2 (45:31):
The Eagles situation, yep, is there something there is this?
You know, Jalen Hurts and AJ Brown, I mean, is
this a big deal?
Speaker 3 (45:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (45:43):
You know, I just think look like I think Jalen
Hurts is a warrior of a football player and he
brings a lot to the table. Is he going to
be like sort of the den leader for the offense. No,
And you know, I think his personality as such where
it's he's not the warmest person in the world, you know,
(46:04):
So I don't think he's the guy who is gonna
stand there and put his arm around AJ Brown and say,
don't worry about it, buddy, we'll get you next time.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
You know.
Speaker 4 (46:13):
And I think like the way that Jalen carries himself,
and again he's not a bad guy, but I do
think it's I do think it wears on people sometimes,
and I think it's worn on people who've been around him.
Speaker 3 (46:23):
And you know.
Speaker 4 (46:25):
So he and Aj had a really close relationship, you know,
but having a close relationship when you're on different teams
and you see each other once in a while is
different than having a close relationship when you're around the
guy every day. And so I think it's something that
can be worked out because they've got a head coach
and Nick Sirianni, who's very emotionally intelligent, I would say,
(46:45):
and like really has the ability to manage people. And
so I think they're going to work it out the
same way they've worked a lot of things out there
over the last year to get to the point where they're,
you know, now eleven and two and one of the best.
Speaker 3 (46:57):
Teams in football. But it's not nothing.
Speaker 4 (47:00):
Mhm.
Speaker 5 (47:00):
Safe travels. Albert, always great to talk to you.
Speaker 3 (47:03):
Awesome, thanks d.
Speaker 5 (47:04):
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Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.
Ridiculous History
History is beautiful, brutal and, often, ridiculous. Join Ben Bowlin and Noel Brown as they dive into some of the weirdest stories from across the span of human civilization in Ridiculous History, a podcast by iHeartRadio.