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February 27, 2025 42 mins

Dan eulogizes Gene Hackman and remembers some of his most famous roles. Albert Breer breaks down the latest on Matthew Stafford's trade market and explains why Abdul Carter's injury shouldn't hurt his draft stock. Plus, NFL rules analyst Dean Blandino discusses the end of the chain gang and weighs in on the "tush push" controversy. 

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up eight seven seven three DP show. Good morning. If
you're watching on Peacock, thank you downloading the app and
our radio affiliates around the country. Gene Hackman passed away
at the age of ninety five. He was living in
New Mexico. I believe Santa Fe And when you think
of Gene Hackman, at least when I think of Gene Hackman,
I think of Normandale in the great sports movie Hoosiers.

(02:44):
Actually it's a great movie. It's it's not just limited
to a great sports movie. That's a and a lot
of times when we think of a sportsman like Rudy
is not a sports movie. Rudy is about the underdog
who gets a chance. Hoosiers isn't a ketball movie, but
it has basketball in it. It's about life in a

(03:05):
small town. And I think sometimes we make the mistake
of saying, oh, what a great sports movie. Bull Durham
is not a baseball movie. It's really about a guy
who's been sent to the miners. He's going to help.
It's about relationships, and you know, but we use, you know,
the focal point, the the centerpiece is sports. I think

(03:29):
a lot a lot of times with these movies or
we think of that, but it's really more than that.
And Hoosiers was that. It was about relationships. And Gene
Hackman was wonderful. And I spoke with, you know, the
actor who played Jimmy Chitwood, Maris Volanus, and he had
no acting experience, he wasn't even really a basketball player,

(03:50):
but he played that role so well. And we'll bring
back a portion of the interview I did with him
a few years ago where he talked about all the
actors well want to be actors, people who weren't even actors,
who just went and auditioned and they got a chance
to meet Gene Hackman, and the role that Hackman played
for them getting ready to be actors in the movie Hoosiers.

(04:14):
But he passed his way at the age of ninety five.
Now there's other movies. I go back when he was
Popeye Doyle the French Connection, and he had his little
hat that he wore and he was going to catch
he was going to catch that drug dealer from France
and never did.

Speaker 5 (04:31):
Yes.

Speaker 7 (04:32):
Seaton a little more recent but one that I always
forget about. But man was he great in The Royal Tenenbaumbs.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
Yes he was.

Speaker 7 (04:40):
That was a phenomenal role that was. That's a great movie.
But man was he He was so good in that.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
Yeah, there were so many of those movies that I mean,
that's that's quite a We talked to Kevin Costner years
ago in New York and he talked about working with
him on No Way Out movie and just talked about
Costner saying I knew I had to up my game
because I was going to be acting alongside Gene Hackman.
But I still go back to the replacements with Keanu

(05:07):
Reeves the quarterback, and I don't know, like, look, Paul
Newman was in slap Shot, and that's what made Slap
Shot even more brilliant, because Paul Newman, legendary actor, was
willing to play this down and out minor league hockey
coach and Gene Hackman in the replacements. Like I kept

(05:28):
whenever I would see the movie, I go, how do
they get Gene Hackman to me in the replacements? I mean,
it's it's it's not a legendary, unbelievable, Oh my gosh,
have you seen the replacements great sports movies of all time?
That's not going to be in the category Alex on Jeopardy.

(05:49):
But and Keanu Reeves, I think had done Speed. He
had done the movie Speed and Matrix, so he had
a little bit, you know, little bit of a resume.
But Gene Hackman and all of a sudden, he's the
coach and replacements and I go, okay, all right. Although
Gene Hackman did think that his career could be over

(06:11):
in Hoosiers, he acted alongside Dennis Hopper, and they did
talk about it, you know, off screen, like this could
be the end of our careers because of that. But
Dennis Hopper legendary actor as well, plays the alcoholic father
of one of the players in Hoosiers. But Gene Hackman
aged ninety five and feels like everybody has their favorite.

(06:33):
He was what Lex Luthor and Superman? Yeah, I never
saw it, never saw the movie, didn't see the first one.
I still haven't seen the first Star Wars, so I'll
get around to it one of these days.

Speaker 8 (06:46):
Yeah, Pauline, there's a story I looked it up after
you brought it up that Keanu Reeves was in the replacements.
He was set to be in the replacements and they
got interest from Gene Hackman and they were shocked. But
he is pricey, So Keanu Reeves said, you can cut
my salary if it gets Gene happened in the movie.
I don't know if that's a true one. That's a
legendary Hollywood story.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
Todd reach out to Keanu Reeves.

Speaker 7 (07:05):
We're on it.

Speaker 6 (07:06):
Did you see any of the Superman movies, by the way, with.

Speaker 9 (07:08):
General Zod and there was one with Richard Pryor and
there's a bunch of them.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
No, none of the Superman.

Speaker 5 (07:13):
No.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
That was the note that I said earlier that I
hadn't seen. I didn't see the first one.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
Thought maybe checked out one of the SEQUELSS.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
It would be odd to see two and three without
seeing the first one, kind of standalone. And I'm not
going to watch the original Rocky, but I'm going to
watch three and four. Are you kidding me?

Speaker 5 (07:32):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (07:32):
Eton isn't it crazy?

Speaker 7 (07:34):
Speaking of the Superman movies that the first one, the
first Superman was George Reeve, and then the next one
was Christopher Reeves.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
Hm was that he was the that was the TV
series George.

Speaker 7 (07:50):
Reeves, George Reeve, I think Christopher Reeves, I think so?

Speaker 2 (07:56):
Yeah, Okay, I.

Speaker 7 (07:57):
Say George Reeve was in the TV Showeorge Reeves has
an S and then Christopher Reeve.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
Yes, Oh that's what is I have it backwards, Yeah,
but yeah he was. He was in the TV show.

Speaker 8 (08:09):
And we also just referenced Keanu Reeves. Oh, in the
same segment dan Reeves was a consultant.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
What Dan Reeves was a consultant on the stupier member.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
You had to get that line out of here. I
thank you. We didn't hear it the first time, but
you know, yes, Paul.

Speaker 8 (08:24):
It is interesting that some movies give you a level
of immortality. There might be better movies, bigger movies that
Gene Hacken was in, but with sports movies, so those
will be talked about on sports radio and TV forever.
And Hoosiers is it really is the one seed and
then it goes down from there? If you look at
all those lists.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
Yeah, I mean it depends. You know, people love Bull Durham,
they love Rudy, those are usually the top ones. But
uh I loved I loved Hoosiers because it's just small town.
It's in Indiana. Uh I could relate to a little
bit of it. The scenery is so underrated, you know
when they do those bus trips, were going to their

(09:00):
games and just the landscape that you had.

Speaker 5 (09:03):
Now.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
Granted it's not exciting because it's a lot of cornfields
and barns, but I could relate to it. So Geene
Hackman passing away at the age of ninety five. Michael
in Chicago, Hi, Mike, what's on your mind today?

Speaker 5 (09:18):
Good morning Dan, Good morning Dan Utts. Is what you
guys missed on the pre show introduction. You've missed a
couple of great movies that he did. One of the
best ever think he did was The Unforgiven with Clint Eastwood.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
Yeah, yeah, he was.

Speaker 5 (09:34):
He was unbelievable in that is the mean sheriff in
the town of Big Whiskey, if you remember, and he
was good in the firm he played.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
Yes, well, we couldn't do all of them, Michael, I mean,
I mean the compliment is we couldn't get to all
of that. But we are a sports show. That's why
we brought up Hoosiers. But you're right, the Firm with
Tom Cruise, he was very good in that. But U
we've taken a trip down memory lane.

Speaker 8 (10:01):
We just sent margin Mississippi burning an apology.

Speaker 5 (10:06):
Go God.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
So I'm going to apologize to all the Hackman fans
and of course mister Hackman rest in peace that if
we didn't get all the movies mentioned where, we can't
do the entire show on Gene Hackman. Let's see NFL
considering overtime tweaks. We'll talk to Albert Breer about this,

(10:28):
and maybe they're going to get rid of the chain gang.
There's going to be a digital spotting of the football.
So these are some of the things they're discussing at
the combine. I've been saying all along about the digital
spotting of the football. It is so random when you
see the official grab the ball and put it down
after somebody's made a catch or a run, and you're going,

(10:51):
really there and it's just random, And I thought, can't
we come up and we accept it. You're like like
the Bills against the Chiefs and the playoffs. You're like, uh,
I think he got it, and all of a sudden,
you go, he didn't get it.

Speaker 4 (11:09):
Now.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
I do like the chain gang when they bring it
out and then they stretch out the chain. I think
we all like that. I don't know if we're gonna
have that. Maybe you do a kind of a video
component of that. If you're watching on TV, like.

Speaker 4 (11:24):
Loop loop bloop, bloop bloop.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
And then all of a sudden, you see it's a
first town and you get a you know whatever sound
effect there are you.

Speaker 8 (11:32):
Saying, just recreate the digital marker and and have the
same anticipation.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
Yeah, perfect, Just go gas price is right ish?

Speaker 5 (11:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (11:44):
You know, yeah, that's what is that? Uh?

Speaker 9 (11:47):
That game of a mountain clown law dude, dude, it
on the mountain climber guy and then he falls off
the cliff.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
Oh I thought it was this one. You spin the
big thing you spin. Yeah, yeah, it could be that too. Okay,
put the showcase showdown.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
Ye try to get on that. You got to get
close to it. You got two spins to get close
to a dollar cliffhanger?

Speaker 2 (12:05):
Is that the name of the hell of a segment?
We're gonna submit this for the Sports Emmy. Oh yeah,
this is this is how we lose it instead of
this how we do it? Todd, This how we lose it.
That's what you do. You Jordan and Patrick doestract. My

(12:29):
Pistons won. The Pistons won again. They beat the celt
You got to take them seriously. They're in the playoffs
right now. I think they have the sixth best record
in the East. They won eight in a row. It's
a young team, fun team. Those are always the ones
that make me nervous. You know, when you get to
the playoffs, you got to play against the team may

(12:49):
not know what the hell they're doing come playoff time.
But sometimes they don't have pressure on them.

Speaker 7 (12:56):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
Matthew Stafford, Tom Brady Ski buddies. Question mark, question mark,
we'll have that story for you coming up. Another betting
investigation the University of New Orleans basketball team. There's probably
five or six open investigations into college basketball game fixing.

(13:22):
They got to do away with prop bets said that
last year. Got to do away with that because if
you're a kid at the University of New Orleans, you're
not getting an IO. Your team is terrible, and I'm
just going to give you a hey, this might be
something that played out. You're not going to the NBA.

(13:45):
Who's going to notice we're New Orleans. We're not any good.
We've won four games, so what you know, I miss
a shot, you know the over under. We're playing University
of Texas at Rio Grand. Nobody's going to know. Well,
Vegas has to know. This is what Vegas does. They're

(14:06):
the watchdogs because this is their business. And a lot
of times you'll see these aren't big time programs because
the big time programs they're getting taken care of. It's
when you play at these smaller schools that maybe you
have the temptation to go, you know what, be nice
to get a couple of one hundred bucks, a thousand
bucks here, whatever it is. There's a lot of investigations

(14:29):
going on, open investigations in this I think there's been
an open investigation into Temple basketball for a couple of
years now, and there's going to be more. But get
rid of prop bets for college athletes. Certainly. I don't
think they'll do it with the pros, but at least
the college athletes, because they can be they can be lured,

(14:52):
they can be tempted because they don't have that money.
You make it to the NBA, you're making money. College
basketball not the case.

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Speaker 2 (16:09):
Very busy man. He's the Monday morning quarterback, but he
works other days as well. Don't want you to think
that he only works on Monday. He's Albert Breer joining
us from the combine in Indianapolis. Thanks for joining us.
Let me start with tweaking overtime. What the NFL is proposing.

Speaker 9 (16:29):
Yeah, so they want to formalize or at least look
at formalizing the rules.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
So it's the same from the regular season.

Speaker 9 (16:37):
To to the postseason, and as you know, you know, Dan,
what they did amend the rule in the postseason after
you know, the Super Bowl a few years back, was
to ensure that both teams would have a chance to
have the ball in overtime. And you know, whether or
not they go to that or tweak it further, I know,

(16:58):
you know, TROYA. Vincent had talked about reimagining the whole
thing altogether. I don't think we'll go to, like, you know,
a college version of overtime. I do think they want
to maintain some of the elements of a normal game
flow that you have in the way that overtime has
been played in the NFL forever.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
But you know, I think that the general idea is.

Speaker 9 (17:20):
To come up with a solution that would work for
both the season and the postseason.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
The Brady Matthew Stafford's story of skiing together in Montana, like,
do you have the real story of this, because there
seems to be conflicting stories of this was something that
was planned, and then there's another story that says that
it was random that they ran into each other in Montana.

Speaker 9 (17:45):
I mean, I can say that that is and you
may be familiar with the place, but that's a pretty
high end club in Montana that people on that level,
that level of celebrity are at and and spend time at,
and so the idea that they would unintentionally run into

(18:06):
each other is not far fetched. I don't know exactly
how that happened. I don't think that I'm not you know, I.

Speaker 3 (18:13):
Don't know for sure.

Speaker 9 (18:14):
I haven't dunk into it quite as much yet, but
I don't think. I don't know that Brady invited Matthew
Stafford there. Matthew Stafford, I know, had been there in
the past, and so again, not that unusual that it
would happen. But I do think it shows how Brady
is really a part of what the Raiders are doing now.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
And Brady, you know, is an.

Speaker 9 (18:36):
Intgrale part of their of their interview process of convincing
head coaching and general manager candidates that it was a
better job than it has been in recent years and
that and then ultimately, you know, they wind up hiring
two guys that Brady's got a relationship with, Pete Carroll
of course, who he competed against for me all those years,

(18:58):
and and John spyt Tech, who he became pretty close
with over the three years they spent together in Tampa.
So I think the Raiders are serious, a serious suitor
for for Matthew Stafford.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
But this wasn't tampering that if Brady.

Speaker 9 (19:14):
Staffords permission Okay, okay, yeah, I mean Stafford ad permission now.
And Stafford's had permission DAN for over three weeks now,
like Stafford got permission to speak with other teams starting
during Super Bowl Week, So I believe.

Speaker 3 (19:32):
It's either right at three weeks.

Speaker 9 (19:33):
Or just over three weeks that he's had permission to
go out and speak to other teams.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
What is the market for Matthew Stafford.

Speaker 9 (19:40):
More than the Rams want to pay right now? I
think is the best way to describe that.

Speaker 3 (19:46):
For those who don't know. He's on the books for
twenty seven million dollars in.

Speaker 9 (19:49):
Cash in twenty twenty five, and that number was lowered
by four million dollars because they borrowed that four million
and another million from twenty.

Speaker 3 (19:59):
T twenty six to give him a five million dollar
raise in.

Speaker 9 (20:03):
Twenty twenty four, which isn't a raise at all if
you're just borrowing from one year and giving it to
the and putting it in another which is why I
think everybody knew when they made that contract adjustment after
a really tough six month negotiation, that they were going.

Speaker 3 (20:20):
To be back at the table again.

Speaker 9 (20:22):
And the way Stafford's looking at it is the quarterback
market has materially changed. There are nine quarterbacks making over
fifty million dollars a year, and his deal at forty
million per is fifty percent below the top of the market,
which is Dak Prescott at sixty million. So the Rams
basically said to Matthew, all right, like, well, if you

(20:46):
go out and see what the market is and go
out and see what you can get.

Speaker 3 (20:49):
And I don't think they use the word trade specifically with.

Speaker 9 (20:52):
Him, but once you kind of let him out of
the building and let him go do that, to go
and see his work, there's some risk involved. And the
risk is that the way he sees his his.

Speaker 3 (21:03):
Worth is going to be matched with the way other
teams see his worth. Even it's thirty seven years old.
And that's what happened.

Speaker 9 (21:10):
Matthew found teams plural that we're willing to go to
a number that was commensurate with where the market is
at the position. And so how do you put that
tooth paste back in the tube. Now, if you're the Rams,
who I mean? Mcphae still really likes Matthew's a good relationship.

Speaker 3 (21:27):
Matthew really likes living in southern California.

Speaker 9 (21:30):
But the reality is they told him he was worth
They felt like he was worth X. He felt like
he was worth Why then he goes to the market
proves he's worthwhy?

Speaker 3 (21:41):
So, now, how do you reel that all back in?

Speaker 9 (21:43):
If you're the team, it's not an easy thing to do.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
The Rams wouldn't they learn from what happened with sakuon
Barkley with the Giants, where you say, go out there,
see if anybody wants to pay you that kind of money.
Oh wait a minute, wait, you're leaving. Granted, you know
staff it is thirty six, thirty seven years of age,
but it feels But I'm always interested when I are curious,

(22:07):
when I hear an analyst go, you know, he wants
to go to a place where he can win. Well,
the Rams that that's a team that can win now,
and they did win now, and they almost went to
the NFC title game. You got pook, you got a
great young defense, you got Pokinakua, you got Williams is
your running back. I don't know, just feels like pay

(22:28):
him the money if you want to try to make
another run at the super Bowl, giving two years one
hundred million dollars.

Speaker 9 (22:36):
I agree, But I think part of this is timelines too, right,
Like does the RAMS timeline match up with Matthew Stafford's
which Matthew Stafford's timeline is to win right now and
to go all in right now to win right now, and.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
You don't think the RAMS timeline is to win right now.

Speaker 9 (22:51):
But yeah, but here, okay, So like let's say you're
the RAMS and Matthew Stafford is going year to year now,
and you've dealt with at a really difficult negotiation. Now
you want to see you're you're you're in this spot
where you're being asked to set another contractual precedent that

(23:11):
maybe could be a problem for you down the line,
and you're looking at the market and you're saying, well,
can we get Aaron Rodgers for a lot less than
that and bring back the assets that would come to
Matthew Stafford deal? I mean, I know McVeigh really likes
Jimmy Garoppolo. That's going to sound crazy to some people.

(23:32):
But I think he believes he can win with Jimmy Garoppolos.
So I think for the Rams, part of this is
our timeline may not match up completely with Matthew's timeline.
We've got a team here that we think can win
for the next five or six years. We're gonna have
a lot of big contracts coming down the pike. And
you know, if we're in a year to year situation
with Matthew Stafford, that's a pretty tough place to be

(23:55):
based on what we would what we what we might
need to spend to keep him. And so so that's
when you start to look at some of the alternatives.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
Like, again, what if be Aaron Rodgers on a cheaper deal.

Speaker 9 (24:06):
Now you got more cash to spend this offseason to
surround Aaron Rodgers, and then you get the assets, whether
it's a first round pick, second round pick, whatever it is,
you get the assets coming back to us too. So
it's interesting from that perspective, and I mean, shoot, it's
I mean think about like if the Giants were to
get him.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
Now you have Andrew Thomas coming back at left tackle.

Speaker 9 (24:29):
You have Malite Neighbors as your number one receiver, you
have Tracy coming back as a young back. Maybe Cooper
Cup winds up there, maybe Travis Hunter winds up there.
Like that team I think could become a contender pretty fast.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
He's Albert Breer, the Monday Morning Quarterback senior NFL reporter.
The digital spotting of the football, I like it. I
don't know if it's a done deal. I'm always curious
when I watch a game, how random it sometimes seems
when the official spots the ball. Yeah, do you think

(25:02):
we're how far down the line do you think we
are with the digital part of spotting of football.

Speaker 3 (25:09):
I think we're getting closer, you know.

Speaker 9 (25:11):
I this is something that they're not going to just,
you know, do all in one fell swoop.

Speaker 3 (25:19):
You know.

Speaker 9 (25:19):
I think there's going to be some experimentation, and I
don't think they want to be completely reliant on technology
that maybe they haven't been able to do wholesale checks
and all that different stuff with. But I think it's coming,
you know, and I think it makes sense. You know,
It's I always sort of think of like the tennis matches,

(25:42):
right where how long have they had they had that tech?
That technology at Wimbledon, the US Open, wherever? You know,
where they got the ball and you can see where
the ball hit. You know, like, how long have they
they had that dan a.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
Decade maybe longer, right, they've had it for so But
you don't have a lot of tennis players in the
way of seeing where the ball hits or where it
goes out where the NFL there's a lot of confusion
going on with tennis. It's a player, is the ball
in or out? You know, you don't have a lot
of bodies blocking that.

Speaker 9 (26:17):
And I agree that the technology is more it's more
complicated in football because.

Speaker 3 (26:22):
Like you said, the amount of bodies out there.

Speaker 9 (26:24):
But I mean, if it's been over a decade that
they've had that in tennis, then wouldn't it stand to
reason that they've made enough advances to make it.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
On a well baseball. Baseball's going to implement this. The
question is not if, but when. I just and maybe
you keep the chain gang as a backup in case
the technology goes down during the game. But I don't know.
I'm all for it just because I've seen how random
the spotting of the football is.

Speaker 9 (26:53):
It does feel that way, doesn't it, like when you
see a guy under a pile. I mean, there are
definitely times for me where I'm wondering, how the hell
does you know where to spot that?

Speaker 3 (27:01):
You know what I mean? Like there aren't those and
so it would I think to some degree.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
Solve that help me understand. The NFL Players Association gives
team grades, so the players vote on things from is
your team friendly to the families of the football players?
The food, nutrition, weight room? Does does anything happen? I
saw the Jacksonville Jaguars. Their grade for treating families of

(27:27):
football players was an F like an F like, I
don't know what the treatment is, but how do you
Does anything change with this? I think the Kansas City
Chiefs got like that.

Speaker 3 (27:42):
They like they're grounding some of these kids or something
I don't.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
I don't know, given timeouts or bad seats or whatever,
not preferential parking. But does anything change when the players
vote and it's an anonymous vote on your team.

Speaker 9 (27:59):
Yeah they I mean it actually has worked. And you know,
I think we all like gravitate to the low hanging fruit.
I don't know if you remember, but there was like
a I can't remember what team it was, but there's.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
A rat problem with one of the teams.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
I think Chiefs had not somebody who was ratting things out.

Speaker 9 (28:15):
It was I think the chiefs had like folding chairs
in their locker room instead of real shares.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
But that's when you're supposed to win. Then you take
care of your players. That's proof that you win. And
all you do is keep the money. You didn't upgrade
your Was it.

Speaker 9 (28:30):
The Cardinals that were like, if you were staying late
at the facility as a player, they were charging you
for dinner, Like I don't know, Like, but here's the thing.
It's like some of this stuff is ridiculous, and I
do think like making a public has shamed some owners into.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
Making changes, you know what I mean, Like and maybe.

Speaker 9 (28:50):
That's the wrong word, but but I think part of
it has been. I mean, look, here's the deal.

Speaker 3 (28:56):
So these guys.

Speaker 9 (28:58):
Come from major college programs, most of them do, where
they're in these.

Speaker 3 (29:02):
Facilities that are palaces, and everything is.

Speaker 9 (29:06):
Done to make them feel like the most important people
on campus.

Speaker 3 (29:10):
And it has to be that way because.

Speaker 9 (29:12):
In college, you're recruiting kids and you need to entice
them to pick your school over another one. And now
in the era of the transfer portal, you know, you
have to convince the guy that he should stay when
he can up and leave whenever he wants.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
The NFL has never had to do that, you know.

Speaker 9 (29:31):
So I got a lot of cases like these guys
go from big time college programs, They'll walk into the
NFL and their NFL facility will be way worse than
what they were than their workplace in college. And there's
really with the amount of money the NFL makes, there's
no reason for it to be that way. I mean,
these are supposed to be finely tuned athletes that are,

(29:53):
you know, measuring everything that goes into their body and
spending every waking moment trying to put them and position
to play at the highest level on Sunday, and so, like,
I think there was this feeling among NFL players in general,
based on what a lot of those guys had as
college players, that NFL teams were falling way, way, way

(30:15):
short of where they should be. And I think there
had been complaints in the past, and they'd fallen on
deaf ears, so you know, they go public and I
don't think it's a coincidence that a lot of these
things improved. I mean, the Patriots who've gotten killed the
last couple of years in this are opening a new facility.
I think in part because of the bad pr they've taken.

(30:36):
You know, the chiefs replace those chairs. The Cardinals don't
charge for dinner anymore, which I you know, I don't
think anybody charges for dinner anymore, which is like a
good thing.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
You know.

Speaker 9 (30:47):
It's funny that somebody did in the first place, but
it took care of the problem in the back end,
you know. So I think that's the idea here, and
I do think to some degree it's working. Maybe not
with everybody, but I'd say the great majority of owners
who've been publicly embarrassed by these report cards over the
last three years have have done something about it on

(31:08):
the back end.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
Mel Kiper in his latest mock draft has Abdul Carter
Penn steak goal number one now comes word that could
need surgery. I know he had a bad shoulder. Now
they're talking about foot surgery here.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (31:23):
So, like I I think he's gonna be okay now,
and I don't think it's going to affect his draft stock. Like,
I still think he's likely. He's probably the leader in
the clubhouse to be the number one overall pick. I
think a lot of people would tell you he's the
best player in the draft. The easiest translation in the draft.
I would say Travis hunder might be the best player.

(31:44):
But this is the guy who you look at him
and you know exactly what he's going to be in
the pros. But you know, it's a foot and those
can be problematic, like what is I think his foot,
back and hamstring, right, are the ones that, like you
just you have to be yeah, yeah, yeah, you have
to you know, do your diligence on it, have your

(32:04):
doctors look at it, and then if.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
You draft him, something something you have to keep an
eye on.

Speaker 9 (32:09):
So I don't think it'll affect his draft stock. But
I don't want to tell you that, you know, a
foot injury, you know, at a young age for an
athlete like this is nothing, It's not nothing.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
Thanks for joining us. I know you got a busy schedule,
so we appreciate you carbon out some time. Thank you. Albert.
That's Albert Breer, the Monday Morning quarterback senior NFL reporter.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
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Speaker 2 (32:44):
Dean Blandino Fox Sports, NFL college football rules analyst and
former NFL MVP of Officiating joining us from the combine.
Good to talk to you again, Dean. What do you
want to chew up? First?

Speaker 4 (32:59):
Let so whatever you got. I love that you called
me the MVP of officiating. That's I love that title.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
I love that and you should be you know the
heck with Mike Pereira. It's you, that's right, that's right. Okay,
help me understand the technology of spotting the football or
first down, like, where where are we headed and when
will we get there?

Speaker 3 (33:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (33:22):
So, I think short term, what the league is going
to do, I think for the regular season in twenty
twenty five is the officials will still spot the football,
but instead of bringing out the chain gang, they're going
to use this optic tracking and these these cameras that
are positioned around the around the stadium to tell you
exactly where the ball is in relation.

Speaker 4 (33:42):
To the line of game.

Speaker 6 (33:43):
So instead of stretching out the chains, you'll have this
graphic pop up and it'll say the ball is six
inches short or the ball made the line of game.

Speaker 4 (33:50):
I think that's the short term.

Speaker 6 (33:52):
Long term, I think we're going to use some of
this this tracking technology where they'll eventually be able to
use that tech to actually spot the football, to say,
here's where the ball was, when when the knee was down,
or when the runners progress was stopped. I don't think
we're going to be there in the next two to
three years, but I think eventually we may see that

(34:13):
at some point.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
Well, I think we all love when the chain gang
comes out, so I do, like, I love it. I
think they got this reversed. They should be trying to
spot the football. It is so random at times and
it's unscientific. And the chain gang, these are just guys
holding the chain. We want them coming out. You stretch
out the chain. That's good TV Dean.

Speaker 4 (34:36):
I love it.

Speaker 6 (34:36):
I agree with you one hundred percent in that you
know the chan It's it's dramatic, right, It's that how
you watch the game and is it going to be
a first down? And then we've got these guys that
run out and this is their moment in the sun.
I love the chain Gang, but I don't think the technology,
like I said, is there yet to spot the football.

Speaker 4 (34:56):
But you know, I guess we don't. You know, there's
not a lot of chain Gang enthusiasts.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
Also the Toush push. It feels like I'm obligated to
ask you about this. From from an officiating standpoint, what
concerns you about this play?

Speaker 6 (35:16):
Well, from an officiating standpoint, it's just a it's it's
an almost impossible play to officiate as to where the
ball is when in relation to the goal line, because
you have all these bodies creating this mass and you're
trying to figure out where the ball is. You think
about the Josh Allen play in the AFC Championship game.
You have two officials coming into two different spots. So

(35:37):
I think from an officiating standpoint, it's just a difficult
play to discern.

Speaker 4 (35:42):
Where the ball is.

Speaker 9 (35:44):
That's it.

Speaker 4 (35:44):
I don't think they'll change it.

Speaker 6 (35:46):
I think with the Eagles winning the Super Bowl, I
think some some clubs will say, well, it's going to
feel like sour.

Speaker 4 (35:50):
Grapes if we voted, if we voted out.

Speaker 6 (35:52):
But a personally, I don't love the play, but but
it is what it is at this point.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
Okay, But take me back to two thousand and five
when the NFL said it's okay to push the ball carrier. Yeah, yeah,
I you.

Speaker 6 (36:07):
Know, And I was there when that rule had been
on the books forever and it was illegal to aid
the runner sister runner and push, and the officials just
didn't call it. They just didn't. They felt it was difficult.
We just didn't see flags. So they felt, Okay, if
we have a rule in the book that isn't being officiated,
let's take it out now. It took, however, many years

(36:29):
for this push push to really gain traction, but it
was illegal forever prior to two thousand and six, and
I think it would be an easy fix.

Speaker 4 (36:38):
I think there's a safety element to it, you know.

Speaker 6 (36:40):
I mean, I know the league came out and said
there's no there's no injury data on the play.

Speaker 4 (36:44):
But look at the Super Bowl.

Speaker 6 (36:45):
I mean, Chris Jones was was was banged up on
the play. You've had several egos. Offensive linemen have said
it's a it's a tough play to execute. So we'll see,
We'll see how it goes. But I'm just not sure
why we keep it in.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
Well, the Eagles will tell you that their linement are
more susceptible to an injury than the defense is with
that play.

Speaker 6 (37:08):
Yeah, yeah, and that's a concern that is a real concern,
and I just it's an unfair play too when you
think about think about the defense if they if they
stack up the runner at the at the line of
scrimmage and drive him ten yards back.

Speaker 4 (37:23):
The offense isn't going to.

Speaker 6 (37:24):
Lose those ten yards, right, You're going to get forward
progress and come back to the line of scrimmage. But
we allow the offense to push runners down the field
and gain that advantage.

Speaker 4 (37:32):
So I just think it's unfair.

Speaker 6 (37:33):
Look, the Eagles have done a great job with it,
and I wouldn't say we have to take it out
just because one team is successful, but I do think
there's other elements there.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
The kickoff. They seem to be toying with this again. Yeah,
do you think there's any modifications to the kickoff rule.

Speaker 6 (37:49):
I do think that they'll probably move the touch back
to the thirty five when you just kick it through.

Speaker 3 (37:55):
The end zone.

Speaker 6 (37:55):
I do think that the two options for this year
will probably move the kicker back five yards or move
the touch back up five yards. And again, I think
they were happy with how the play went. You went
from twenty two percent, which was was an all time
low in terms of returns, to thirty thirty two to
thirty three percent, which was better. I think they wanted

(38:16):
to look at the injury data, and the injury data
says the play wasn't more dangerous. So I think now
they're going to look to increase the number of returns.
So probably one of those two things, either the touch
back to the thirty five or the kicker back to
the thirty and we'll see where it goes from there.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
Dean Blandino, Fox Sports, NFL college football rules analyst and
former NFL MVP of officiating. Could you see anything with
tweaking field goals with I mean, they've gotten so, you know,
proficient with this, and the NFL doesn't like predictability. It's

(38:52):
like the extra point. That's why they moved it back
because it was predictable. Do you see anything in the
future where the NFL would change anything with field goals.

Speaker 4 (39:01):
I think there could be.

Speaker 6 (39:02):
I don't think it's going to happen this offseason, but
when you look at the evolution of the kickers, it's
been incredible. Right now, we're eighty six percent on all
field goals, setting records for this year, we had the
most field goals per game. I think it was almost
three and a half field goals per game, which was
the most ever. The kickers are so good and from

(39:25):
really any distance, we're seeing sixty yarders like they were
thirty yards thirty yards twenty years ago. So yeah, you know,
what could you do?

Speaker 4 (39:33):
I mean we experimented.

Speaker 6 (39:35):
I remember being at the Pro Bowl with the kickers
and moving the uprights closer.

Speaker 4 (39:40):
You could do that.

Speaker 6 (39:41):
You could do some other things because these kickers. Like
you said, the NFL doesn't love predictability. I think they
like it when teams go for it. You want to
see more touchdowns, So I think that's something in the
near future we could say, because.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
They're all about, you know, content, like what looks great esthetically?
What looks if you had a moment where you went
to the fifty yard line and the goal post all
of a sudden moved in and got a little tighter.
It's just like we're talking about with the chain gang.
We love that. Now if you do it digitally and
you give some drama to that, we love that stuff.

(40:16):
I was talking about pylon Cam five years before they
even implemented it. It's like, you you have the visual
aesthetics to always think about, but imagine if the goal
post just went in each five yards or ten yards,
it went in x number, yes, x number of inches
in Yeah, I mean that.

Speaker 6 (40:37):
Look, these are all like things that you think outside
the box that would make it.

Speaker 4 (40:40):
You know, you would, you would.

Speaker 6 (40:42):
As you got closer, it became a harder field goal
as the uprights came in. You know, you have to
figure out the how to do that with the uprights
and the and the goal posts and everything else.

Speaker 4 (40:51):
We'll we'll see, but I do think that's something.

Speaker 6 (40:54):
The league will look at because again, these kickers are
so good today and they're not going to get worse.

Speaker 4 (41:00):
They're only going to get better.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
What's the wildest rule suggestion that you ever heard?

Speaker 6 (41:06):
The wildest you know we've had, you know, thinking about
field goals there, you know, if if the kicker can
hit an upright, that's worth four points.

Speaker 4 (41:15):
You know, so so now you know the doint, the
doink would be a good thing.

Speaker 6 (41:20):
You know, there's there's been quite a few of of.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
But you have to make the field goal when you
doink it right.

Speaker 4 (41:28):
That could be it. Yeah, you could.

Speaker 6 (41:30):
You have to actually hit the upright and go in.
You know, there there's variations of that.

Speaker 4 (41:34):
That we can play with I think the league.

Speaker 6 (41:36):
Has done a good job of not getting gimmicky, you know,
with with some of the rules changes, you want to
maintain that integrity and the foundation of the game.

Speaker 4 (41:45):
And and uh, but there have been some interesting ones
over the years.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
Is the official Is it up to the official to
tailor his shirt the way he wants to?

Speaker 6 (41:56):
Yeah, we we you know that happened. You know, we
remember ed Hockey Lee and he was really the godfather
of the sh medium and uh and and so we
you know, the officials get their uniforms. We we would
provide them with a tailor at our officiating clinic, but
then inevitably they would go to their own their own
folks and.

Speaker 3 (42:16):
And maybe you know this, leave this.

Speaker 6 (42:18):
You know, I've been I feel good about my off
season arm workouts, and I want to I want to
show it off.

Speaker 5 (42:23):
A little bit.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
Uh, have fun there in Indianapolis, schmoozing, I'm guessing has
that with a lot of schmoozing.

Speaker 6 (42:31):
But heading home later today, so we'll we'll head home.
But it's been a good week here.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
Thank you, Dean. Thanks Dan. That's Dean Blandino, Fox Sports,
NFL college football rules analyst, former VP of officiating,
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