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NBC Sports Premier League Host Rebecca Lowe celebrates her club Crystal Palace's historic FA Cup triumph and shares where it ranks on the top 5 days of her life. ESPN Senior NBA Writer Brian Windhorst shares why he believes LeBron's legacy was cemented in 2016 and previews the NBA Conference Finals. And "Around the Horn" host Tony Reali shares how he found out the longtime show was being canceled and previews what the final episode will entail. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Rebecca Lo, NBC Sports Premier League host lifelong Crystal Palace fan,
how do you feel today?

Speaker 3 (00:15):
Damn flipping Patrick. I feel a lot of feelings I've
never felt before. I feel like life goes too quickly
and already Saturday is too far ago, Like it's too
long ago. How did it already get to Monday? No,
I needed to still be Saturday. I feel slightly empty.

(00:39):
Isn't quite the right, you know, not to float? Maybe
just exhausted, could just be like emotional exhaustion. But I
also find myself and this is I don't think this
has ever happened to me before. I find myself during
these last couple of days, just drifting into a day
dream and thinking and remembering what it was like at
Wembley Stadium on Saturday. I feel pretty complete, to be honest.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
Explain the FA Cup to our audience that may not know.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
Okay, so the FA Cup is nearly one hundred and
fifty years old. It's an incredible competition that is separate
from the League. So whilst it's similar to Super Bowl
in that you have the knockouts and the Super Bowl
you know in the later stages when you get to
the playoffs, right, and then the two get to the final,
this is knockout all the way along. So you play
the league normally and then you all get to go

(01:25):
into the FA Cup. And the FA Cup actually starts
in August with nine hundred and something teams. We're talking
grassroots soccer in England, so we're talking village teams enter
the FA Cup in August and then they go through
extra preliminary rounds, preliminary rounds and then all the way
to first round, second round, and then it gets to
January and that's when the big boys go in. So

(01:47):
in the third round of the FA Cup is when
the Manchester Cities and the Premier League clubs enter. At
the third round. You then have to win third round,
fourth round, fifth round, quarterfinal, semi final and then you're
in the final. So the competition actually starts in August
finishes in May and it's the most revered, oldest and
most famous cup competition in world football.

Speaker 4 (02:09):
Did you ever think you would win in your lifetime?

Speaker 3 (02:13):
I not really, no, Dan, We've been in it twice
before nineteen nineteen we were in it and I was
nine and I was too young to go. And then
in twenty sixteen, i'd just given birth to Teddy Buckle
and I couldn't go because he was two and a
half weeks old and I was in the United States,
so I couldn't travel. And we've lost obviously both of
those times before. So to get in it again kind

(02:34):
of so quickly, really, considering my club has been around
since the eighteen hundreds, we've only been in the final
three times. To get in again was incredible, and I
have to say NBC have been amazing. They straight away said, yeah, Rebecca,
you're going, even though I was supposed to be working
today and yesterday, and no, I never thought we'd been
in it. And also we were playing Manchester City, the

(02:55):
team that you adopted twelve years ago. Slightly lightly but
you adopted them, and they are not the team of
back in those days, but they're still a bill and
good team and so to beat them in the biggest
game in English football is I can't It's so hard
for me to describe the euphoria cry I had.

Speaker 5 (03:19):
There are a lot of tars.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
Before the game had even started, I was crying. They
sing a song or a hymn I should say called
a vibe with me before every FA Cup final. It's
just the tradition. So I cried during that. Then I
cried when the players came out, just because that was
my team coming out in the film. Now I cried
when we want it, So yeah, lots of tis.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
Was there a part of you that didn't want to
subject your son to this potential torture for his life?

Speaker 4 (03:45):
You know what?

Speaker 3 (03:45):
I did think about that? And when every when I
told everybody that he was growing up as the Crystal
Palace fan, people asked me that exact question. I thought,
in some ways yes, right, because I would say over
the thirty five years of supporting Palace, it's been mainly painful.
But I really leave Dan that if you support a
Liverpool and Manchester United back in the day, a Manchester City,

(04:06):
you'll never get that moment I got because you win
all the time, you win trophies all times. I want
him to understand that in life, Dan, it is quality,
not quantity.

Speaker 4 (04:17):
We're talking to Rebecca Low.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
She of course is the host of the Premier League
on NBC in Peacock and she was there at Wembley
with her husband and son. Yeah, and as soon as
they won, I did think of you. I'm like, oh
my god, I don't I don't know. Does does Crystal
Palace have a trophy case.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
I'm not not technically because we've not actually won a
major trophy before. I'm sure there are space in the
boardroom at the stadium. We've won smaller trophies down here
is like much much smaller. But now we're going to
build a brand. I think we've built a whole room,
to be quite honest, for this one beautiful trophy.

Speaker 4 (04:54):
So what do you do now? This is like, this
is weird.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
Red Sox fans, Cubs fans, they are like, wait a minute,
now we won.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
I know it is weird, and that's why I say.
It's a feeling I've never had before. I don't quite
know what to do with this feeling. I'm a bit
concerned that Teddy thinks, age nine, this is going to
be you know. I mean, it could quite feasibly never
happen again in his lifetime. I have told him that
I was so Crystal Palace are actually playing Liverpool, the
Premier League champions, next Sunday on the final day of
the season, and we are going to anfield to watch

(05:24):
Liverpool lift the Premier League trophy. I'll be the only
one in the stadium that's actually more interested in their
opposition next weekend, so I get to see them again
next weekend and then after that. To be honest, Dan,
if we never win another trophy, I'm actually fine with it.

Speaker 4 (05:37):
It start like.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
For me that moment was full circle thirty five years
as a nine year old, My dad was there, my
family like, it's like it is complete.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Now, Okay, where does this rank top five days of
your life?

Speaker 3 (05:51):
Number three?

Speaker 2 (05:52):
So having Teddy Yep getting the job at NBC and
then this and then your wedding.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
Very close, very close. I'm going, I'm going baby wedding this.
But then with both of them with me for this,
you know it might kind of like it might all
be on a little bit of a level path.

Speaker 4 (06:14):
It is.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
It is that big. I genuinely felt like there was
life before Saturday, Dan, and there is now life after Saturday.
That is, honestly what a line in the sand in
my life.

Speaker 4 (06:24):
That day was Congratulations.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
I didn't think it would happen in my lifetime, but
I'm glad it happened in your lifetime. That you've got
to have crystal palace instead of being the butt of
a joke.

Speaker 4 (06:38):
Yeah that you're a champion.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
Champions, absolute flicking.

Speaker 4 (06:42):
Champions, unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
Have fun over there. Thanks for joining us anytime. Thanks Dan,
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Speaker 2 (08:00):
Brian Winhorse to the Mothership senior NBA writer, and he
was there for Game six Celtics in the Knicks. ESPN's
coverage of the Western Conference Finals starts tomorrow night, eight
thirty Eastern with the Chimberwolves. And okay, see Wendy joins this.
You know, here's a random thought I just had for you, Brian.
If Lebron James would all of a sudden end up

(08:21):
with the Cleveland Cavaliers, let's say, end his career there,
what does that do to your life? Do you then
have to go back to Cleveland?

Speaker 5 (08:32):
I was in Cleveland a lot this postseason. You know,
the Calves were. You know, if the Calves are, if
a team is really relevant, I'm probably going to be there.
I covered the Calves Heat series in the first round,
and I thought I would be there for the Eastern
Conference finals. I thought the Calves were playing great. I
really did not see I respect the Pacers, I did
not see them getting well washed out in five.

Speaker 8 (08:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (08:53):
I mean, you know, in my view where Lebron's career
is now, he's just in the total icing stage. He
can do whatever he wants and it won't affect the
way I think about him whatever. I know that his
legacy is a popular sports topic. I think it's whatever

(09:13):
happens is fine. Like if he plays three more years
and misses the playoffs, fine, If he plays one more
year and hangs it up and they in the late
with the Lakers and they don't make the second round, fine,
Like to me, after he won the championship in sixteen,
it was all cemented and after that, you know, it's
just a it's just a part of building onto the resume.
So I would cover it like I would cover any

(09:36):
the rest of the league. You know, if I'm was
signed there by my bosses, I would go. It's my hometown,
so I always look for reasons to go there. I
was happy to be there in Round one. Played some golf.
I thought I was going to be playing some more
golf in Cleveland the summer, but that doesn't seem to
be going to be happening.

Speaker 4 (09:51):
Well, the Cavs are playing golf. They certainly are.

Speaker 5 (09:55):
They certainly are.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
Do you think that it's just Steph curR he won
his career with Golden State, Lebron win his career with
the Lakers.

Speaker 4 (10:04):
Probably.

Speaker 5 (10:05):
Yeah, I think Steph Carrett were going to career with
Golden State Lebron. I'm you know, high probability of Lakers.
I would never cement it, just because the Lakers are
pivoting a little bit now, not a little bit, They've
pivoted to Luca and so that makes their medium term
future a little bit harder to predict. But Lebron has
demonstrated repeatedly, time after time after time his priority is

(10:28):
to be a Laker and to live in Los Angeles.
So I don't, you know, unless the Lakers did something
to him to change the way he feels about them,
which is not their mo. The Lakers franchise has invested
in almost more than anything else invested in taking care
of superstars. It's essentially their brand. I don't see that happening,
but yes, I think that's that's very likely where we're headed.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
Janna's had a reportedly a polite wave saying trade me
or I'd be open to a trade. When does the
market start where I guess it has it started officially
of yes, yeah, teams proposing yes.

Speaker 5 (11:08):
I don't think you'll see a significant big move with
the star player until there's clarity on what happens with
the honest and nor should there be, because this could
go a lot of different ways. And I do think,
by the way, like I may not have the best
information on this, I'm not saying that I do. I

(11:30):
don't think that Giannis is one hundred percent said I'm
out of Milwaukee yet. I think that would be a miss.
I think that would be a mistake to assume that.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
Do.

Speaker 4 (11:37):
I think that there's a.

Speaker 5 (11:39):
Growing possibility that that's that he is going to want out.
I do, and I think that the league does. In fact, Frankly, Dan,
the league has been watching this for a year. You know,
I'm not saying that there are teams that have like
haltered their organization to wait for this, but for a year.
I mean, even at the trade deadline, there were teams
who were like, you know what, let's just let's just chill,

(12:01):
or let's just do this deal instead of this deal
just in case we see yanis available. People were keeping
an eye on this for a year, and then when
Dame unfortunately had that injury, anybody who would be a
yanas suitor applied the brakes to anything serious.

Speaker 4 (12:17):
And we'll see.

Speaker 5 (12:18):
I think as the playoffs go on and we get
closer to the draft season, there will be an increasing
tension that grips the league on waiting for Yannis to
make a signal about whether he wants to leave, and
then if he wants to leave, is there a place
or place is he wants to go? And is he
going to have control? Those are big important decisions that
are going to happen, and I think you can even

(12:40):
you know this is an ironclad thing. It's all evolving,
but you could even have a player like Kevin Durant
sort of sitting on the tarmac waiting to see what
happens with his future until yan is the future gets
tied up, not guaranteed, but you could see some teams
that Durant would have interested in Yannis potentially having interested in,
and then you're not getting both.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
Give me the team, though, you think has the assets
to be able to pull this off. To we always
look at trades from one perspective. It's like, man, they
could get him if they give up these guys. We
never look at the other side. So Milwaukee's got to
be intrigued by this. Who could get their attention?

Speaker 5 (13:17):
Yeah, I mean I would assume that Milwaukee has been
working on this. Again, not that if their general manager
John Horst was here, he would attest to this, But
the whole league has been thinking about Giannis for a year.
My guess is for some period of time the Bucks
maybe not on their main whiteboard in the front of
their office, but there's a secret computer file somewhere where

(13:40):
they have a list of interesting trades they'd like to make.
The team that stands out with a bright, fresh, flashing
light is san Antonio, because san Antonio has a couple
of things that are very possible Yanistrad first off, Dan
in the modern NBA in the apron era, and I
understand fans frustration. I have several Frans friends who are

(14:01):
we are big NBA fans who like snap at me
and go Nobody understands this apron stuff. Nobody cares about
to stop talking about it. Unfortunately, that's just the truth
in the modern NBA game, it's it's very hard, not impossible,
but it's very hard to have three gigantic salaries, you know,
fifty million plus salaries. And if you do all three

(14:23):
of those guys better be awesome, because you can't fill
out the rest of your roster. And I mean, it's
not impossible, but it's extremely difficult and to invest in that,
to go that route right now is very hard. So
San Antonio has something that is extremely attractive is that
they have a star player in Victor Webbinyama who is

(14:45):
on his rookie contract for several more years, and then
even if he does get the max contract, his max
will be sort of lower down. It's just like what
happened with the Senate with the San Francisco forty nine
ers in brock Purty, right, they were able to build
out their tea because one of their best players is
making one of the cheapest contracts. So they have that
they have a star player on the minimum arena on

(15:06):
a rookie seale contract. They have young pieces in house
that would interest anybody, including Stefan Castle, who just won
Rookie of the year, and they are loaded with future
draft assets, including two lottery picks in this draft and
the number two pick, and they have large salaries on
their roster that can make a trade you could equal it.

(15:28):
And so if you're Milwaukee, one of the most important
things I have to say before anybody goes to the
trade machine. If you think Milwaukee is tanking, you've got
it wrong. Milwaukee cannot tank. They do not control their
first round pick for the next five years. So if
they make a Yana's trade, even if it is beautiful
for four years from now and it results in them
winning seventeen games next year, they're going to have a

(15:50):
party in New Orleans because that's who controls their pick.
They have to have a real team on the other
side of it. Unless they go to New Orleans and
make the deal for Giannis and get their picks back.
They have to have a real timing on other side
of it. So San Antonio can give them real players,
they can give them young players, and they can give
them draft picks. That's the golden triangle. What we don't

(16:10):
know is whether Jannis wants to play in San Antonio,
and what we don't also don't know is if that's
going to be a priority. If Gianna says to the
bucks O cad like to be traded, whether or not
they're going to work together, I would suspect that they would,
but I don't know for sure. So you have a
team like San Antonio, you also could put Houston in
that boat. Houston has some of the same advantages, but

(16:31):
San Antonio is farther ahead. If I was honest, though,
Dan and I saw the way the league was going,
and I saw the unfortunate situation that just happened in Boston.

Speaker 4 (16:43):
Oh absolutely I would stay. I would. I would.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
I would say, you know what, let me talk to Cleveland, like,
if you you want to get a team that is
ready to win, and then that's his goal. I me
in the Eastern Conference, You're right, Boston's wounded, the Knicks
are good, Indiana's good.

Speaker 4 (17:04):
Seventy six ers aren't good.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
So you start to look at the hierarchy there and
you go, you know what, I could win a championship
with one of these teams.

Speaker 5 (17:14):
Here's where I once again have to use the word
april aprons, because both of those teams are second apron teams,
and it's not impossible I want to be clear, it
is not impossible, but I would need Bobby Marks and
a bunch of spreadsheets to be able to have a
real conversation.

Speaker 4 (17:30):
It's not like it was.

Speaker 5 (17:31):
A few years ago where you're like, if two teams
deem it, so it can it could happen, and then
you know, you get into like, well there's three team,
four teams, sixteen twelve team scenarios. Yes, obviously if you
had a battering ram and a will, you can make
it happen. But really these days you have to consider
that as well. But if Cleveland could get Giannis, yes
I would, seriously, I would take the phone call put

(17:52):
it back.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
But san Antonio is still keeping Victor Wembenyama. That's right, Okay,
Now how does that pair work to get.

Speaker 5 (18:00):
Beautifully because when bin Yama, Well, here's the thing, Yannis
is extraordinarily effective playing center. This is sort of an
inconvenient truth. You know, for example, well, I'm not.

Speaker 8 (18:14):
Going to get into that.

Speaker 5 (18:15):
I'll get I'll get aggregated.

Speaker 4 (18:16):
I don't need that. We like when you get aggregated.

Speaker 5 (18:21):
Yes, here's your show is excellent at it.

Speaker 4 (18:25):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (18:25):
Yannis is probably a center in the modern NBA. Okay,
but he doesn't really want to play center. But if
you put in, it's and it's hard to play him
a power forward dan because he can't shoot. And it's
even hard to pay him a small forward under circumstance
circumstances because it's harder to get shooters on the court.
Because you know so wehn Bin yama is is on

(18:45):
his way to being one of the greatest big man
shooters of all time. Like he is dedicated to it,
he is getting better at it. The Spurs want him
to do it. At the very least, he has to
be guarded out there. And the way that you you
know what you want for Jans. You want the floor spaced,
and if you leave Victor to open the lane, Yannis
will jam it down your throat. And if you leave,

(19:09):
if you stay with Victor and open the lane, Yians
will jam it down your throat. And if you leave Victor,
he will kill you. He will eventually be an I
think over forty percent three point shooter. So and then
at the defensive end, you have length for days, and
the Spurs still have dearon Fox. They still have both
pieces that they can that they have and assets they
can continue to build, they could make, They could pay

(19:30):
a king's ransom for Yannis and still have pieces to build,
which is why to me, san Antonio of all the teams,
makes the most sense. However, having said that, if Jannie
is in agreement with the Bucks that we're going to
work together and he has two years on his contract,
that's sort of an awkward spot. You know, when Dame
Willard went to the Trail Blazers and said, I want

(19:51):
to be traded. The Blazer said, we're going to trade you,
but you have four years on your contract. You're not
going to have agency, and he didn't. You know, he
was okay with Milwaukee in the end, but he wanted
to go with other places. Gianness is and is in
the awkward spot for Milwaukee to get the most in return,
Yiannis would really have to endorse where he was going
that he would sign an extension. Thenna, then you're gonna

(20:13):
get more, because if you're a team like san Antonio,
maybe you're not giving Stefan Castle and both lottery picks
this year. If you just think you're getting in for
two years, you want Giannis coming and saying I'm signing
an extension with you, then you're saying, Okay, you're gonna
be our Victor wenbin Yama build out. That's what you're
gonna be for your back of your prime and going
into Victor's prime, that's what's gonna be. So because of that,

(20:34):
if Jannis looked at the Bucks and said, I only
want to be in place X, the Bucks would probably
be highly incentivized to try to make that happen. So
if you have a team, because you know, naturally when
a star player becomes available, there's certain markets that just
can we get them, The Lakers or the Warriors couldn't

(20:55):
win a bidding war, Like if Milwaukee said the market's open,
there's no way they could win a bidding war. If
Giannis went in and said, I want to end I
want to be with Steph Curry, That's who I want
to play with. Is there a deal that could happen
between those two teams? Yes, yes, I would be lying
to you if I told you the Warriors couldn't trade
for Giannest. That could happen, but it is not something

(21:15):
that would happen if it was an open market and
we just don't know yet.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
Could you see Jokers saying to the front office in Denver,
What are we doing here?

Speaker 5 (21:24):
I would hope say that, but I don't know that
he would say that. He has never articulated that, and
he has certainly never done it publicly, and I've never
heard about it privately. But if you're looking at this team,
there are two players short. You know there are two
players short. And what ended up unfortunately happening in this

(21:45):
particular postseason was that Michael Porter Junior got hurt and
he was a shell of the player that he normally is.
People were criticizing him, and I'm like, well, if you
saw the way he played in the regular season, that's
who he is, Like he's he's an improerfect player, but
he's much better than the play he showed in the playoffs.
And then unfortunately Aaron Gordon got hurt and will never

(22:06):
know what would have happened in Game seven if Aaron
Gordon was healthy, I don't know. He was a huge
difference making player, and so all of a sudden you're
down to like three guys you could trust on that team,
and the buildout of that roster is one of the
reasons why the general manager got fired. People focus on
Michael Malone getting fired. The general manager got fired too,
and you know it was because the buildout of the

(22:28):
roster bell short. That team at the top end is
a championship team, but they're not championship team in the
middle of the back end, and it's cost him two
years in a row.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
What player, marquee player, star player of the final four
would benefit the most from winning a championship If you
said Brunson, Shay gilges ant Man or Alburton.

Speaker 5 (22:50):
Well, what Jalen Brunson is doing in New York is
historic and I think that would be the best story.
And if you want to brand me is somebody who
works for ESPN and wants the New York team to win.

Speaker 4 (23:04):
That's fine.

Speaker 5 (23:04):
I'm from Cleveland, I live in Omaha. That story is amazing.
And here's the other thing, like I don't and again
this goes back to the Aprons. And I know it's
such a boring topic and it's a buzzkill, but Jalen
Brunson taking that contract that he took is going to
be the gift that keeps on giving for the Knicks.

(23:26):
The Knicks are here ahead of schedule. The Knicks strategy
was to get some players in their twenties that they
thought were together and then take advantage of Brunson's willingness
to alter his contract and then build this team out
over the next three or four years. They were really
looking at the beginning of a window where they were
going to outmanage other teams in the salary structure because

(23:46):
of what Brunson was willing to do. People attack that
Bridge's trade, and that's fine. You can attack the Bridges trade.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
You can.

Speaker 5 (23:53):
You can put up a beautiful PowerPoint presentation about it.
The Bridge's trade happened to injunction with Brunson signing the
deal where he took one hundred million dollars less. That's
the only way to look at it. And Brunson doing
that and then potentially leading this team through. You know,
the Knicks as a team are not an elite The

(24:16):
Knicks has a unit, are not an elite team, but
they are though mentally tough, and they're so mentally tough
because of Brunson and watching him do it and leading
that team with his mental toughness is a very, very
compelling story. But of course I could tell you Dan

(24:36):
any one of these four teams. It's really fascinating because
you've got aunt Edwards, who's potentially an heir apparent. You've
got the Pacers, who are a beautifully built team who
are extremely fun to watch. Watching them play is extremely fun,
and Tyree Saliburton when he is cooking, is enjoyable to
watch as any player in the league. And then you
have the MVP on a team that was built organically

(25:00):
like the Oklahoma City Thunder are the blueprint of how
to build a sustainable team, and they've won and got
an MVP award and MV guy's gonna win the MVP
in the next few days. So I think all of
them are good, but I think Brunson's story, especially since
the Knicks haven't won. Actually, none of these teams have won.
The Knicks haven't won since seventy three, and nobody else
has over won an NBA title. The Pacers never won
in the NBA obviously, the Wolves and the Thunder. The

(25:21):
Thunder haven't won in Oklahoma City, they won in the
seventies in Seattle. But I think all of them are
new blood that are interesting.

Speaker 4 (25:28):
Great to talk to you again, Thanks for spending time.

Speaker 8 (25:30):
Thanks Dan, have a great week.

Speaker 4 (25:32):
Brian Windhorst.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAPP.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
We make way for a man who might be going
through a midlife crisis.

Speaker 4 (25:46):
Oh you know, it's you know.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
And mister energy himself, Tony Reality. After twenty three years,
ESPN's Around the Horn will air its final show coming
up this Friday.

Speaker 4 (25:58):
Thank you for the for the pub there. Great, it's
great to see you. He's he's talking about how I
entered into the room just three minutes ago, and I said,
I was going through a midlife crisis. Like people do
they buy motorcycles. I don't buy motorcycles. I dress like
I drive a motorcycle. DN, you got the bombers, yeah

(26:18):
I know.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
Oh yeah, you got in case I roll, you got padded,
you got shoulder pad, you shoulder pads.

Speaker 4 (26:25):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
I always wanted bigger shoulders, you know. But but well
you've carried the network for.

Speaker 4 (26:30):
Thank you very much. I think I took it right
from you. I mean that, that's that's part of why
I needed to come here today. Dan. Okay, but.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
I'm serious though, with a midlife crisis of it's a
mid career crisis of.

Speaker 4 (26:43):
I wouldn't call it a crisis. I feel amazing. I
feel absolutely amazing. I feel I feel energized and optimistic.
And I know I can say this now after twenty
three years of being on TV and carrying a show,
but of being somebody who for his whole life wants
to please people and wants to be that guy, the energetic,

(27:05):
kindest guy can be. I can be proud of myself too,
And I know twenty three years of five thousand episode
television doesn't come available on the market often, so looking forward,
there's no crisis. I'm feeling great. How were you told
that it was coming to an end? Suddenly? Then gradually
as all the good things. I read an article on

(27:26):
the New York Post, my hometown paper occasionally printed in English,
and that was the first I heard that it was
a possibility. Made a few calls to the people, of
course that I love, and we'll suss it out. And
that's when I heard, No, we don't know where that
came from, and we all know what that means. He
came from somewhere. So yeah. So that was over the

(27:47):
summer of last year. I had my people look at
things like ratings as if that might matter or something
like that. We were up, we were doing great, so
I wasn't really worried. But you know, once that stuff's
truthpast is out of the tube, you know what.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
It is, okay, But do you sense the show is
heading into different direction? You know that that you know
why it got canceled. It's such a great show and
it felt like was there too much money being spent
or was it too woe too much money elsewhere?

Speaker 4 (28:17):
I mean, certainly wasn't money I can I can tell
you that. I mean, the woke has it's a fine
headline to write. I don't believe what that is. I
honestly think we did fifty thousand topics over twenty three years.
You're gonna tell me ten or fifteen drew an eyebrow up.
I'll be like, yeah, I mean we were doing some

(28:38):
complex topics from time to time. I don't mute people
in FaceTime. So maybe there's two or three there that
didn't have the back and forth you would want. Maybe
there's one or two I would take back if you
asked me. Those aren't my regrets, not at all. So
the reality of the show being the most eclectic, and
it's not a negative word for me, diverse show in

(28:59):
the history of the television medium. We got people twenties, thirties, forties, fifties, sixties, seventies,
all on a level playing if you we have men,
we have women, all on the level playing field. You're
gonna tell me that that's not never gonna be a
negative to me, even though times have changed and things
are viewed differently. Now. I know the people who were
part of our show are getting other jobs at our network,

(29:21):
front facing jobs, wonderful jobs that are at our highest properties.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
But I can't imagine with your excitement, your enthusiasm, your energy,
you go into management yes, and can't convince them.

Speaker 4 (29:34):
I said, let me play it however you see it.
I can get rid of them. You button if that's
if you don't like the game show element, I can.
We'll bring in switchers, We'll bring in athletes every now
and then. But I believe the show is based and
the bones of the show is journalism. And when this
one goes away, there ain't anymore. Because I love Tony
and Mike, They're not riding in the Washington Post on

(29:55):
Deadline tomorrow. Bill Plashkey is Tim Kallishoy is right, now
we might. Tim Kalishaw is going to be working hard
to be on the finale of Around the Horn, the
show he gave his blood, sweat, tears, and sobriety too.
He went straight to sobriety while during the show, and
one of the most proud things I can say of

(30:15):
our show is the growth that we've all been able
to have through the support of each other.

Speaker 7 (30:19):
He's going to be.

Speaker 4 (30:20):
Either an Edmonton, you know, or Dallas for this, because
again the abundsman of the schedule, can we get an
NHL schedule out earlier. But imagine he's an Edmonton and
I'm having a rogue camera shoot him. He's shooting it
on an iPhone. All right, Tim, Nice, nice career you
had with us, See you later. But these were suggestions
that you had. I mean I threw him out to

(30:41):
my immediates, the great Eric ride home and Aaron Solomon,
and I also then had a chance after some time
to convey them to some people, or at least put
my words out there. I mean, these were conversations I
wanted more of. Okay, but mute button and athletes. Yeah,
I'm speaking. I'm speaking very frankly here. I would throw
out the kitchen sink. I know what I can do

(31:05):
on TV, and it's not just a mute button and
a scoring system, you know. So I know I could
host different shows for this network, and I know they
could want different shows. That's I understand that part of it.
I went through nine months where I did some education
on myself and on the industry. How has the industry changed? Right?
And I'm aware of things now that maybe by product

(31:27):
of me siloed away doing a show the way I
only saw a fit. I know I had to carry
a weight for twenty three years. I respected that. I
know nine hundred and fifty three episodes doesn't happen by accident,
doesn't happen even But somebody's also doing a podcast and
a streaming show and covering games on weekend. I know
what I needed to put to do that. So now

(31:48):
I'm trying to imagine, well, what else could the network want?
And I would love to have that conversation. Still, you're
staying at ESPN. I have a contract through the end
of August, and I am having many great yes two months.
The show says goodbye Friday, and I'm happy to have
the next two months to talk to everybody and anybody

(32:09):
in the world, including ESPN.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
But if if you're I was wondering about this that
you you did that, but were you going to do
other things like Wilbond does.

Speaker 4 (32:20):
Oh yeah, I was with you. I was in a
place now where I wanted to get the home life
where I wanted it to be. And I had done
Good Morning America as a correspondent for some years. It
was four years in total. It wasn't you know exactly
where I thought it was going, and I think they
would say the same of me. But it was a
very fruitful experience and educative in that way. So I

(32:42):
have now Google documents full of game shows, kids shows,
just because I wanted to stretch my personality out a
little bit. But then, you know, the same type of
fair that I would love to make in TV and sports.
Absolutely Tony reality.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
For now, his business card brings around Corner host until
this Friday, after twenty three years.

Speaker 4 (33:06):
I mean, we are in it. We have been in
a similar position in our lives. I don't know exactly
how you came to find out the big show was
going wherever it's going.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
Right, Well, that's Keith Oberman left, Yes, and that only
we were together five years and then I didn't have
that epiphany until I turned fifty and I was sitting
on the six o'clock Sports Center.

Speaker 4 (33:28):
Were you wearing a motorcycle jacket? I was not.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
I was not doing that, but I remember I was
throwing out to South pal Antonio for whatever, and I
just it hit me, like, what are you doing? Because
I was doing the six o'clock Sports Center so I
could spend more time at home. I'd worked second shift
for fifteen years. Yeah, four kids, young kids, and I

(33:52):
just remember going, what are you doing? Like I didn't
want to be the you know that, Oh my god,
he's still doing sports center even though it's a wonderful
job at your young man's game.

Speaker 4 (34:01):
I have people who tell me that, but I didn't
feel that way, you know, like, Okay, that's time to
move on. You can do so many different things, and
for me, I was taking it to the finish line.
I was taking it back into port after going around
the horn, is what I was doing.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
Yeah, but sometimes it's viewed as a negative if you
continue to do the same decisely.

Speaker 4 (34:19):
The people in my life who love me were at
least making that note to me that you should be
branching out more. I had a muscle in me that
said what's right is right, and we're gonna carry this
one to the end. So in some ways that's why
I do feel amazing. Now I've had a chance. I'm
not going to tell somebody whose last name is Patrick

(34:40):
what an Irish goodbye is, but I've had an Italian goodbye.
I've had six months of hugging people, coming into rooms,
getting presents, giving presents, getting notes. I was not prepared,
and maybe the network wasn't prepared for a press release
that had four and a half million clicks on it.

(35:00):
We're announcing incredible new parts of our network, in the
future of the industry and all these things. It's not
seeing four and a half million clicks When I took
came up for air after that first week, when I
found out, and I was like, I said, I'm gonna
respond to everybody. And then I looked at the press
release it was four million clicks. I'm like, oh my goodness,
what about you signed myself up for? Could you do

(35:20):
a variation of around them? Absolutely, I think there's gas
in the tank for this, Like this would have been
the pitch if we were still having a conversation about extending. Sure.
I mean, one of the great things about this industry.
I grew up wanting to be you.

Speaker 7 (35:36):
Damn.

Speaker 4 (35:37):
This is why I made the drive out here. Anthony
really calling the Yankees. I saw a hit piece you
did with Don Maddingly right as far back as I
can remember, I always wanted to be a sportscaster, all right,
I said, you know you're doing Don Madam, I'm doing that.
I want to be John Sterling. I want to be
the guys who I had in my college who would
come back and give speeches. Mike Breen, Mike Okay, Bob Papa,

(36:01):
Chris Carno. That's every voice of the local teams I
listened to growing up. Yeah, okay, that's Fordham University. So
I knew what I wanted to do since I was
a kid. I knew the whole way, and I have
seen other people navigate one job and then the next
job and the next job. I do think though a
refreshing of the show where you're talking to people. I

(36:23):
got into this long story because I feel like young
sportscasters I would love to put them on. You know,
they had their own YouTube page Now, at thirteen, I
had a Fisher Price microphone that went nowhere. There was nothing,
no coret in it, and I I was you. For
every history project. I would bring in the cardboard box,
cut my head out and do Sports Center through the

(36:45):
Big Show talking about the Revolutionary War. We start today
with corn Wallace. Oh corn Wallace, how did he blow
it in your town? He came in there with the strategy,
you know, and that sort of thing I was doing
that was not always well received. There's a little bit
for mister Matson and the Christian Brothers of New Jersey.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
But if you said, if you're going to watch any
of these episodes, yes, here's one episode that I'm most
proud of. Is there an episode of Around the Horn for.

Speaker 4 (37:16):
Ugly? There's three or four in my head that stick
with me. There was an April Fools episode I did backwards.
I workshopped this on the walk to work, talk about
my our crew, Aaron Solovon and Josh Bard looking at
me like I'm crazy, as they always do, but rolling
with me, which I appreciate. So this was the Seinfeld
type episode where I did I caught a paper toss?

(37:37):
I said, we were just on a twenty three and
a half hour break, I got the FaceTime to somebody.
I scored the show from thirty seven down to zero
and entire backwards episodes, but the debates were still the
news of the day of sports and that this got
workshopped in a three hour timeframe. Amps was backwards. The
e block was bu Ba Bue proud of that. I'm
really proud of that I would do that. You know,

(37:59):
for me, my evolution as a host and as a
man was realizing feelings are superpower and where are feelings
more prevalent than in sports, But let's also apply those
feelings to your life and putting it on stage. So
having Woody Page come on and talk about depression, talking
about the loss of my son and stillbirth and the

(38:22):
birth of my son at the same time that episode
after Father's Day, that will stay with me for the
rest of my life. Not because you know I did
it and I knew I was intentional of how I
wanted to do it, and the reaction that came from that.
I'm still getting notes, I'm still getting books sent to
me and vice versa. So that was connection. That's what

(38:43):
I've realized was the goal all along.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
You know when you talk about kunt of Shawn's sobriety out.

Speaker 4 (38:51):
I mean these were all things. Now again, you can
write a headline and say, what is that game show
on sports doing? It went too far? You can write,
or you could just broadly they had too many people? Well, yes,
I like people. I wanted as many voices as possible.
I'm gonna tell you it's a satire, Dan, Now all right.
You can't score an argument a sports argument. Nobody wins
the sports argument. Much like life, what you get scored

(39:16):
on one day changes the next day. What you do
so well today may not work for you in your
home life or in the show tomorrow. And you're gonna
have to roll with this. This is how intentional and
meta referential, honestly I was doing when I was thinking
about something as silly as the scoring of the show.
So I wanted to be able to have any conversation
at any time. But I got Tony and Mike after me.

(39:36):
You got the same people every day. That's one go
there for the same people every day on this show.
We'll give you the opposite. I want you to score
the show. Let's go around.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
I want you to do with the dants okay with them,
and I want to know this scoring system and you know,
and you pick the topic.

Speaker 4 (39:53):
Okay, okay for the Dan nts. Okay, so I'm sure
we're really locked into the NBA playoffs right now we go.
We're gonna take a break. Oh what you take breaks
on the show. Yes, we do. Yes, you gotta pay
me if that's what you want to do with your life.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
All right, it might be what you're doing with your
life too at some point and a half hour break,
Thank you, Dan. How about we take a break. It's
Tony reality. He will explain the scoring system. He will
play around the horn coming up. That'll keep getting your cars.
We're back after this from the Dan Patrick Show.

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They'll be driving up the road.

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Speaker 2 (41:36):
Oh TV Royalty. Tony really all right. He dresses like
he's in a motorcycle gang. He's got everything with the motorcycle. Yeah,
you're with leather ESPN around the horn and at the
final show.

Speaker 4 (41:51):
Who airs this Friday after twenty three years.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
Okay, So I want you to be you, and I
want you to treat the dan Z's if they are writers,
and explain the system though the scoring system that.

Speaker 4 (42:04):
You sure vibes would be one way to describe it.
You know, everybody wants to reach vibes. Now, I'm looking
for panelists not just to have an opinion. I'm looking
for them to prove why their opinion is best right now.
Prove it right now. You got to prove why your
opinion is best. So you may think, Paul I got
to get some stats, because reality is a stat boy

(42:26):
born and raised, and that would be a great way
to do it. But then if Fritzi were to come
back and give stats on top of stats, well stats
on stats. We're not doing that. MW Fritzi, all right.
And then Marvin's coming in and he said, as the
only panelists who watch this game, or is the only
panelty who was in the locker room? Is what I really?
I was there, Frank Isola, I was there. That's another

(42:47):
way to get points. So now we're proving it could
be analytical, it could be experiential, it could be you know,
any number. It's a bad way to try to get points.
Mm hmm, that's a good question. I have banned certain
phrases from the show because people of our ilk never
you Dan, But I would say more than the Netts
have used them in a way that have rendered them meaningless.

(43:10):
These are cliches. You want me to tell you?

Speaker 2 (43:12):
Now?

Speaker 4 (43:12):
Can I give you a little Well, I'm gonna give
you partially of the list elite narrative optics if we
even approach any of those three words your And then
there's even one more that comes up quite often. It's
when you use one sport and you bring in another

(43:33):
sport to use your analogy because because you couldn't talk
about this sport, well that's called first take goodness, they're
gonna get me canceled before the week's well yeah, I
mean I believe this to be the case. If we're
talking hockey, we're talking hockey, don't you dare bring in
you know, Steph Curry or whatever to make your camp

(43:54):
your comps. So so that's another part of that. So
those are the band phrases. That's how you lose points,
That's how you lose Before we'd have this filter that
I would stamp on there and there would be a siren,
and then the panelists would stop talking in the middle
because they thought, you know, they were getting pulled over
in their studio or something. I don't know, So then
I had to be more.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
Yeah, all right, okay, So you give them the topic
and then you'll judge them. Yeah, you'll give them points. Okay,
I heard it coming in.

Speaker 4 (44:19):
I think Brock Purdy was an interesting development in the
NFL because we all know how we rank our top
five and top ten and top fifteen quarterbacks, and we
know about the success of the forty nine ers over
the last five years, in part because of the structure
of his salary as a rookie. So let's go around
the horn on Rock Party Rock Purty's new deal at

(44:44):
over fifty million per for Purty around the Horn Paul.

Speaker 9 (44:49):
The forty nine ers had no choice but to sign him.
He bailed them out of the tray Land situation. Damn
ding ding ding ding, dam thing paint him yet handing.
He's good, not great, but not bad enough to move on.

Speaker 4 (45:00):
Terrible way to make an argument, Baul, not great, Just
leave it at good. He's good, all right, Fritzy, Do
I see you back there? Around the horn Fritzy by
her self.

Speaker 8 (45:11):
When did the San.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
Francisco forty nine has become the San Francisco Desperados?

Speaker 4 (45:15):
Are they like a UFL team?

Speaker 1 (45:16):
Now?

Speaker 4 (45:16):
How desperate can you beat uspend that kind of money?

Speaker 8 (45:19):
They didn't win a ball?

Speaker 4 (45:21):
How desperate are we that we're trying to get that
USFL audience? You know, man, if you love sports in
nineteen eighty three, you're gonna love this take from Fritzy.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
Yeah, welcome to my show, Johnny. All right, Seaton, what
do we got? I love what the forty nine ers
did here.

Speaker 10 (45:37):
They gave their quarterback a fair, competitive salary that's not
going to reset the market, so he doesn't have the
pressure of explaining this gigantic salary right now.

Speaker 4 (45:47):
Plus they got it done before preseason.

Speaker 10 (45:49):
They got it done before any of those questions are
gonna be asked about the extension. So when are you signing?
Are you gonna Stare you happy with guarantee things? Then
good but manageable d money is front loaded up. These
are all winners for this for this team.

Speaker 4 (46:02):
Ding ding ding thing. Think Marvin around the rdio.

Speaker 8 (46:06):
Love the brock Party contract. First of all, he saved
John Lynch's job as general manager for all those trade
picks to go up to.

Speaker 4 (46:15):
For trade lance and then you know what.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
I think, Marvin keep going okay, sorry, sorry, yeah he
can he can give you that facial.

Speaker 4 (46:25):
We got the commercial break. It's doing really good. Hey, sorry, sorry.

Speaker 8 (46:29):
Love it for the forty nine ers, they got their
franchise quarterback. Let's keep it wrong.

Speaker 4 (46:33):
Okay. You don't just score with the things and the
doints in the me. You score for your face. I'm
a face scorer, right, the listening face and you know
the listening face. Oh of course, and now you know here, okay,
so well, there were some passionate arguments there. Marvin kind
of rolled off there at the end. Marvin, your froze.

(46:53):
It's all right, it happens. Yeah, the noise is sometimes.
Sorry today sham being in winter Seaton FaceTime again, thirty
seconds of FaceTime seating. Then let's see if you have
a second gear, you can talk about anything you want.

Speaker 10 (47:07):
FaceTime seating, Crystal Palace, winning the FA Cup. Wow, huge
for the American soccer audience. Chris Richards is a starter
in that back line. He is also an owner of
a USL Championship team in Birmingham, legion. That's exactly the
kind of momentum that you need heading into the World's
Cup in the United States next year.

Speaker 4 (47:26):
Babus boys, let's go. This is incredible on the floor.
If I had a piece of paper right now, I
don't want to take me to your scripts. Here you go,
there you go. You can throw it right at the
weeks my camera right here we go. Week see, let's
see ready, we're on a twenty three and a half
hour break. We'll see you tomorrow maybe around the ward.

(47:51):
The thing about the camera, hit the lens is everything.
I've hit the camera eighty percent of the time. But
you don't hit the lens. It doesn't look like it.
You know, I'm not that I'm explaining this. What kind
of athlete? Were you?

Speaker 2 (48:02):
Not?

Speaker 4 (48:02):
A great one? I was a passionate one, but I
didn't grow until I was eighteen years of age. So
I may have been the best soccer player at eight
and a good baseball player at nine, and it was
over for me pretty early on, which is how you
become stat boy. That and not going on a date
for your entire high school career is how you learn
about the encyclopedia. And once again I tell you I mean,

(48:22):
I mean my bit wearing around a cardboard box pretending
I'm you. You know, it doesn't go over so great
at the school dance, you know.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
Tony, reality host of Around Horn the last episode on Friday,
Do you know what you're going to say at the
end of Friday show?

Speaker 4 (48:38):
Yeah? Yeah, I felt this way for a few months.
Even have you practiced this? Not yet? I may, I
think I will. I know what I'm going to be
doing in the first three minutes of the show, and
that's what I'm very excited about. I've already got bought
the music script, you know, and procured the music, and
I have a very special guest coming by the studio too.
That means something to me and my family, and I'm

(49:00):
excited for that. And I think a lot of people
know a little about me, may know where I'm going
with those first three minutes of walking onto the set.
And then I'm gonna, you know, on the back end
of the show. I think I'm gonna explain the scoring system.
I think I'm gonna find that. I think finally, and
the stats are important to me. I came in a
stats boy. I'm gonna show the final stats of Around
the world. I wondered though. You know, Tony and Mike

(49:22):
labeled you stat boy.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
Yeah, and I sometimes it's hard to get out of that.

Speaker 4 (49:27):
Oh you're just stat boy, right. Yeah, it's like being
a marine. Once you're a marine, you're always a marine.
Once your stat boy, you're always a step by. I
don't I don't take that. I was called Bambi when
I was playing college rugby. Baby. Yeah, that's not a
great now, No, not for a rugby player. And I
was alright with that because two career tackles would prove

(49:48):
that I ran away from action. No, I this is
just about connection. I love that people call me stat
boy in the street today. It happened yesterday more more specifically,
you know. Yeah, and I'll I'll carry that one to
the end. Sure anybody get really upset with the mute button?
Oh sure, Fame Mariotti got very upset with the mute
button for his ten years on the show. There have

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been times I know how to take the temperature of
even you know, some of our greats, you know, Woody Page.
It's good to give a call to people if I
can say anything. Check in with your people. You know
you're doing. I'm trying to make a moment on TV.
He's trying to make a moment on TV. I feel
like I'm being the most authentic, real reality, But I
know that rubs everybody in a certain way. Some days.

(50:31):
My energy's too big some days. So we've had conversations
even in the last two years, not Woody specifically, but
me and some panelists. I'm like, yeah, maybe I overstepped
there that you know where my heart is, but that's
on me, and you got to make that phone call.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
Ever objected to anything that would he put on his chalkboard.

Speaker 4 (50:47):
Well, he certainly got us in trouble once he put
a one nine hundred number up there. Now, this was
a time when they're once again usfl baby. This was
a time when they're nine hundred numbers usually came on
at about eleven o'clock at night, and they were telling
you about, oh, the sexiest time you're gonna have of

(51:07):
your life over a telephone. Well, would he put on
a number that said one nine hundred some some three
letters h O R N the name of our show.
The name of our show, maybe even in the UK
would come off in a different way. Right around the
horn suggests something a little bit different over there. So
in fact, that phone number did take you to a

(51:30):
number for sexy time. Did would he know this? I
think we know Woody a little bit. I think he
knew this. Did any of us know this? No, But
that's what happened that one time. Yeah, that's the true story.
You ever get brought on the carpet by management? Not once? Never?
Then you were you weren't. I wasn't doing it right,
you were not.

Speaker 7 (51:49):
I told you.

Speaker 4 (51:50):
If I have a regret, it's that I didn't bang
the drum about how strong our show was doing or
and I mean somebody said recently controvert this show. Never
a knew you'd be two three articles we written about
us saying that topic was too far fine. Never once
was that the case. I got two conversations in twenty

(52:11):
years of keep on doing what you're doing. That was
the That's the entirety. And again there's pros and cons
to this. There's a David Letterman, of course, another idol
of mine, interviewed warren Zevon his favorite musician at the
end of his life, and he says very heartfully on
the show, well, maybe going to a doctor, never going

(52:32):
to a doctor, for all those seventy years. Was a
bad strategy. Maybe not check it in about you know,
in anything. I want more. I want this, we need this,
we demand more. I want to see us on ESPN
dot com because we are the second highest rated show
on the daily schedule. I want to I want my
YouTube page back. Where'd my YouTube page go? I had

(52:52):
a YouTube page ten years ago. We were operating on
that in a high level and it went away. He's
were taken away for that, And now you is something
that of course this network should want.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
Yeah, but you're a pleaser, so you don't want to dispcisely.

Speaker 4 (53:06):
And then I'm the guy who's gonna be creating a
movie every single day. You know where I'm getting, you know.
So I'm lost in a in a silo. But ed,
it's sweet, you know, trying to think about how that
topic can go best.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
That day, I overheard you say that you brought gifts. Well,
I mean these are very little in the past. I
brought Conoli and Schwola Dell because you were in New York. Yeah,
and I wanted to show a tribute to New York.
Shola Dell is an Italian pastry from Naples that kind
of looks like a like a big, overflowing fantastic signs

(53:38):
ear or something, and.

Speaker 4 (53:39):
They can only be all, no, this is different. You know.
I have some friends who have you been to Naples?
I haven't been to Naples. No, No, okay, that's you know,
now something that may be available to us. My family's
from Naples and Reggia, the Calabria. We've done other parts
of Italy, but that's gonna be that's gonna be next.
But now a show called Around the boot How incredible

(53:59):
is that? That's great?

Speaker 10 (54:01):
Right?

Speaker 2 (54:01):
Yeah, Tony, Tony reality is around the boot Board. Air
for Sports is available too. It's available to all of
us right in the world. You know, I mean, why
aren't we doing Anthony board Ain for sports? You want
to do a heartful show and you want to show
how sports unites people. Yeah, that's who's taking the scoring system.

Speaker 4 (54:20):
I'm hoping to get a gift for everybody who works
on the show. That will be the literal screen that
you might have something you know in your scoring system.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
I'd love to at least offer up the man Cave
as sort of the sports of the Smithsnia.

Speaker 4 (54:35):
I can get you a mute button. I can get
my hands in a mute button. I'm gonna whittle it
down and send it to people who inspired me in
the business. And you're at the very top of that list.
So let's do that.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
How about we just ravage the set. I'm not a
collectibles type of guy. Yeah, yeah, I notice, Yeah you
can tell. But you know, I had this suggestion for
David Letterman on the final episode. They should have been
dismantling the set around him during this. I thought about
that during the show. I do have a cone of
silence here, if you'll notice over Fritzy.

Speaker 4 (55:07):
Yeah, that that belongs there after that usfl take.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
That's my my version of the mute button, and Fritzy
freaks out because he gets clausterphobic a little. Yeah yeah,
all right, So you brought gifts. So I brought gifts
because it's important me to show tribute when I work
with Letterman. I'm starting now when I work with the Oberman.
I h I stopped by his office today.

Speaker 4 (55:30):
You know, his show was on at the same time
as Around the Horn and got him something that was
his favorite player growing up. You know, this is nothing
like that. Okay, okay, covered oreoles. The best part without
you know, no Marshmallow there. That's from day Bars, which
is a New York institution as well.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
Well, the look what we got. Nobody's more excited than Fritzy.

Speaker 4 (55:54):
Yeah, that looks fantastic. Yeah, always always brings something. Would
you like to guest host this show one day? Absolutely?
Thank you very much for asking. Yes, of course, of
course can we make that? Do you know a guy? Yeah? Yeah, me,
It would be an honor. I would I would make
the drive up where am I now don't know? Yeah,

(56:15):
or you could just take the train. I hadn't considered
that Grand Central take the train, yeah, yeah, next day.
It would be my honor and privilege. But we'll let
you decide who you want on. I don't think you
want to do that. Oh yeah, I know we're gonna
be doing the Sopranos reunion. You're gonna want to sports.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
Well, it's good you do it, since I never saw
an episode, Oh I know this about you? Yeah, or
maybe it'll be my motorcycle Club by that time. I'll
see my wife's Italian. We don't we don't even joke
about the mob. It doesn't come up.

Speaker 4 (56:45):
You're missing out on all the good stuff. It's really
it's it's it's a human show, much like Around the
Horn was about about feelings.

Speaker 2 (56:52):
So we watched Good Fellows, I saw, I saw When
You Walk In finally watched it.

Speaker 4 (57:00):
Ray Liota. Yeah yeah, I mean I walk around this
every day and then I take pictures of people and
they look at this and they smiled immediately. Right, this
is a You know how many photos I have on
my phone, Dan, three hundred and ninety five thousand. You
know how many favorites I have fifty seven thousand, So
if you really want to pare it down quickly, my god.
Well we just did the photo outside.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
It took like yeah, I mean, okay, when are you
going to put that photo up?

Speaker 4 (57:23):
I mean it could be up whenever you want. It's
it's it's your photo. Okay. This is my gift to you.
I would hope you blow it up to like six by.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
Six feet if we re enacted the Lebron James Dwayne
Wade where.

Speaker 4 (57:37):
I came in here with an idea, as I always
like to do, and I wanted Dan to be Lebron
and I was happy to be Dwayne Wade in the foreground,
and I wanted Dan dunking. How about we just we
post it now, well this and now that we've set
it up in this enormous way, I hope the composition
is nice.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
I'll take your mute button. Yes, I won't use the
mute button. No, but you'll have one on the set.

Speaker 4 (57:59):
But I want you to take me up on the
offer of guest hosting all day. I would appreciate that.
We would love you know.

Speaker 2 (58:07):
And if you get down in the dumps and you
know you don't have a job, yes you could always
You know.

Speaker 4 (58:14):
My dumps look different than other people's dumps.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
You know.

Speaker 4 (58:21):
Well, now that I said it like that a lot
of kale, But no, I was talking about it. I
grew up in Staten Island for my first five years.
We know dumps. Yeah, all right, Yeah, my wife is
from Stay. I know this about it. Yes, And of
course I'm gonna stop off at the shop now that
I'm in the neighborhood, We're gonna we're gonna delay around
the horn so I can stop off at the shop.
Get some creamery. All right. Great to see you have

(58:43):
fun on Friday. I think I will. I think I'm
gonna have a lot of fun.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
And hopefully it's what you wanted to be. There will
be no other way good good, because it'll be there's
always people tell you how you should do it. You
need to do it how you want to do it.
There's a big difference in there. The final episode around
the Horn on Friday, he's Tony Realey and good luck
with life.

Speaker 4 (59:09):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (59:11):
I'm dying.

Speaker 4 (59:12):
This is not even Tom Sawyer attending his own funeral.
This is not that, all right. I just you know,
sometimes it feels like a death. Yeah, I mean I
can written a little bit. I can recognize what that is.
But there's a fullness to it as well. Again four
nine hundred and fifty three. You can say it's canceled,
it's being sunset, all right, it's it's being put out,
but it's not. I mean, come on, it's more than

(59:32):
Oprah Winfrey and David Letterman and Jerry Springer. We did
all right,