May 30, 2025 • 52 mins
ESPN NBA analyst Cory Alexander questions Tyrese Haliburton's energy in game 5 and shouts out players such as Rip Hamilton and Larry Johnson for his "Hall of Very Good." CBS Sports NFL analyst Ross Tucker shares why he believes Lamar Jackson and John Harbaugh are under lots of pressure this season and discusses why Mike McDaniel could be fired if the Dolphins have another down year. Award-winning actor Bryan Cranston confirms the "Malcolm in the Middle" revival and shares the traits that give people the best chance to become movie stars.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio Nixon Pacers Saturday night in Indiana.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
The Knicks are four point underdogs. Corey Alexander been doing
a great job calling the action on ESPN Radio. He's
a college basketball analyst as well, played seven seasons in
the NBA, and he'll continue his coverage tomorrow night, game six,
starting at seven thirty Eastern on the mother Ship. Corey,
the level of concern for Pacer fans Pacer players is
(00:31):
what in your opinion.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
I believe it's probably about a five on a scale
of one to ten right now, Dan, And the reason
being is because you know, Tyre's Halliburton was so lacadamsically
and the last night's game, and it's something that we've
seen from Tyre's Halliburton throughout his playoff career the last
two seasons, and you don't there's no reason. There's really
no rhythm to it. It's just some days he's not
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the same player. Especially coming off of historic performance thirty two,
fifteen and twelve with zero turnovers in Game five, you
would expect it to see him be more aggressive on
the road.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
They didn't see that.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
But I do believe he will see it tomorrow night
in game six, which that's why the concern is only
a five.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
I don't know if this is a big deal. It
felt like somebody was or some people are trying to
make it a big deal. Pascal Siakam postgame said they
played harder than the Pacers, Like you can say they
executed better, but in a game five with a chance
to go to the NBA Finals, a team played harder
than you.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
But it was the case.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
He told the truth, and oftentimes you know that that's
the thing we asked players to be honest.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
He told the truth, and the mix did play harder.
The misplayed with.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
A sense of urgency and a sense of desperation, and
the Pacers played as though they knew they had another
opportunity to be able to close out on their home
floor in a game six. And Pascal Siakam was spot on.
The Knicks did play harder. It may not be something
that you want to hear from your teammate in the
locker room, but at the same time, everybody in a
locker room that was part of that game to look
at each other at high and say it's absolute truth.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
The next day and play harder than we did tonight.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Tougher to defend Halliburton or Brunson.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Tougher to defend Brunton. And the reason being is because Brunson,
regardless of the whether he's making shots, he's missing shots,
whatever may be, he is constantly going to stay aggressive.
He's going to continue to come at you every opportunity
he gets. And more importantly, jleb Brunson, it doesn't matter
who's on the floor, he'd be playing with Michael Jordan.
And when it's all said and done, when Jayleonn Brunton
steps on the basketball court, he thinks he's the best
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player on the court, and he was last night.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yeah, I'm fascinated by just his style. It's relentless. He
just keeps coming, you know, it's it's all. It's always
going forward and I love that. I just don't know
the rest. You know, Karl Anthony Towns played pretty well.
Seemed pretty mobile for a guy that was you know,
I guess had a questionable knee going into that game
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last night.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Yeah, he was very mobile.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
And when you consider Karl Anthony Towns and he really
gets his opportunities to.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Start the second quarter, start the fourth quarter, when.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Jalen Brunt's on the bench, but with the new starting
lineup that Timbs has employed over the last three games,
Jalen doesn't have as much spacing, which makes the three
point field goal so much more important for him. He
got off to a hot start, knocking down threes in
that first quarter, fourteen first quarter points. I believe he
had sixteen in the third quarter. I'm not sure if
he scored in the second or the fourth, But when
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you think about the second the fourth along the cat
they have a great rotation in the way that they're
doing things offensively, and they work in game five. The
problem is the Pacers know that. Will it be able
to work for the Knicks in game six on the road?
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Why is it you think we in the media try
to fast track somebody to be face of the pace
of the sport or the next great players. Is he
a superstar? A lot of these players were talking about
are twenty three to twenty seven years of age. It's like,
we don't give you that grace period before you know,
(04:05):
Michael Jordan had a grace period, and you know Bird
and Magic, everybody kind of got a grace period. We
don't let these younger players now, and like Cooper Flagg
coming in, how long is his grace period before we say,
I don't know, can you win win a title here?
Why do we do it?
Speaker 3 (04:21):
We do it because and Dan, you've been in this
industry much longer than I have, believe it or not.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
I was with you in the gym. I believe it's.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Concord Athletic Club back in San Antonio getting shots up
back in the day.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
So you've been doing this for a long time.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
And the difference is I can say that my company,
you know, or our company be it at Disney, is
going to pay two point eight billion dollars next year
for rights at the NBA, which means that it's not
about the games, it's about content. And so from seven
am to eleven pm, you have to talk about the game,
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and therefore there have to be things to talk about.
That's the difference in today's game in comparison to when
I was playing.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
In the NBA.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
And even before we're talking about there has to be
some type of conversation to keep the viewers watching and
keep them off of social media and keep them watching TV.
So when you think about that, that's the reason why,
and again it's constant. And not only that, but these
guys don't necessarily care about being the face of the
NBA anymore. The reason being is because when Michael Jordan
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was playing, Dad, you had to be the face of
the NBA to become a billionaire.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
With these contracts, Now you don't have to be.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Anthony Evers can be a billionaire without being the face
of the NBA after just three contracts and of course
everything that he gets off the court.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Talking to Corey Alexander, ESPN Radio, an list and he'll
be calling Game six on the Mothership. That'll be at
seven thirty Eastern on Saturday. How was my jumper? By
the way in San Antonio.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
I am calling to vouch for you, my man.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
You actually can shoot the basketball. I believe it was
Bennie del Dagro in there with you. I'm not sure
you had another one of your anchors, maybe Oberman. I
know it was a Stewards, but well, I think it
was maybe Overman with you, and it was Benny del
Negro myself. I'm not sure Dale Dimps I know was
in there. But you can shoot the basketball. Man.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
If anybody ever.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Questions it to them to come see me. I've seen
it with my own two eyes. You were knocking down
shots that day.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Thank you. I appreciate that. And you're a great journalist,
is what you are. I think I'm a better deep
shooter than Vinnie Del Negro. Vinnie was a great fifteen
to eighteen feet, but he didn't come out to where
grown men shoot.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
Vinnie was a master of the mid range. That was
his game. But I agree, and I used to talk
to him all the time in practice. I was like,
come on, o here in the deep water, get out
of kiddie poole.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
He wanted, no problem with that, But in the kiddie pool,
he's one of the best to ever do it.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Best shooter you ever faced, the.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
Best shooter I've ever faced, poo.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
I'm gonna go as far as to say his name
is now my mood, abdul Rahu. He was once Chris Jackson,
but you're talking about one of the best of the best.
And again, the dude was relentless. He had the best touch.
You know, he was so locked in on making every
possible shot and it was so quick, honestly, and again,
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you know, Steph Curry's my nephew will love him to death.
Del's like a big brother to be. Chris Jackson was
Steph Curry before Steph Curry. The way the game has
changed has allowed for Steph Curry to be able to
do what he's doing.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
If you couldn't handcheck Chris Jackson.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Mark mud Abdul Roh, if you couldn't be physical with
him the way that the game is played now, I'm
not saying that he would have been Steph, but he
would have been very close to what we've seen Steph
do over the last ten years.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
You want to talk about getting a shot off, like,
you know when when he would his handle was wonderful,
and when he was at LSU and he was averaging
thirty a game. You know we didn't. You had Shaq
and Stanley Roberts, but the best player was you know,
six feet tall in Chris Jackson. But in today's game,
you imagine today's game with Chris, you know, just so
(08:01):
quick at getting that shot off, so.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Quick at getting a shot off was so quick in
general because as you mentioned, to handle it, then he
hit me with a between it last crossover one time,
but I watched it on the Jumbo Trot and I
went off the screen completely. You couldn't even find me
and he just absolutely lost me. But the thing is,
in that era and we're going back to this is
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ninety six, my rookie year. Playing against him, you had
to be able to defend. And that's the reason why
he didn't get as many minutes. He didn't get as
many opportunities because he struggled defensively in today's game where
they often find ways to hide guys who laugh or
a defensive end and you can keep them on the
floor for thirty five to forty minutes. If he had
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that type of I mean, he had that type of time.
And as you talked about that grace period, I mean
again we talked still talking about one to all time greats.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Yeah, Mark Price is another player who had an unbelievably
just go up quick and you know he would average
twenty ten. You know, there's a lot of those. Kevin
Johnson was another twenty ten guy there. Just felt like,
you know, that's what you had to do. Back then,
that's when you had true point guards. But then Steph
became a points guard instead. You know, like he created
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his own label there. Did you have your welcome to
the NBA moment?
Speaker 3 (09:22):
I had a lot of them, and when you just
missed those names, Mark Price, Kevin Johnson, I started getting flashbacks.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
From all those guys having to deal with. But my
welcome to the NBA moment, believe or.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
I came in preseason my rookie year, and I was
playing against Tim Hardaway at Utah.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
So a preseason game at Utah, and of course I watched.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
So much home court. I watched so much Tim Hardaway
growing up and playing. And before the game, you know,
I'm a fan. I walked up to him and I said, Hey,
it's don't hit me with that, and he said, don't
worry about the course, you don't have to be concerned.
But watch what I do to eight, and he bought it,
bught out a new move for Avery in that game.
Of course, those two guys had history for being with
(10:03):
the workers together, and after he hit.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Avery with the move, it pretty much fun Avery in
the circle. He just looked over.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Breton and gave me a wink, and I knew I
might be in for trouble in this league from that
point on.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Does it matter who wins the East? When you look
at OKC and how good they've been regular season, postseason.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
I do think it matters, and the reason being is
because as good as OKC has been, they are the
best team in the NBA.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
They have the best.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Player right now in the NBA and an SGA. But
the Indiana Pacers can give them a handful. They can
give them everything they want. And the reason being is
because Indiana as a team is just as deep as
are the thunder and they would absolutely make that a series.
I'm not sure if it would be a great series
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if they're going up against the Knicks, because the Knicks
are so front loaded, but.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
When you think about going one through twelve.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
The Pacers are right there. They don't have the star
that the that the thunder half in SGA, but from
a depth standpoint, they can match him totals up.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
And I know it sounds blasphemous to say this, but
SGA has a game. He can lead the league in
scoring multiple years. And you know, the last time, you know,
Iversen was like that. Obviously, Jordan was like, there aren't
a lot of guys that you go every year like
he could lead the league in scoring the next five years.
I wouldn't be surprised at all, but he doesn't. There's
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no highlights really it's just it's methodical. I'm coming at you,
and it may be mid range jumpers, it may be layups,
but that's it. No threes. But it's pretty dominating in
a quiet way.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
I think it really is. And the reason why I
think that he won't end up.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Being a guy that leads a league scoring for the
next few years is because he's becoming an even better playmaker.
And one of the things that Shade said early I
had the chances my first TV game, believe it. When
I was in Oklahoma City this year, and Mark Degnof
told us that Shaye has come into this season with
intent on empowering his teammates because he wants to make
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sure that they are prepared when we get to the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
And it has worked.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
You've seen what Jaalen Williams has done, You've seen what
Chet has done. You consider a team that has really
jailed around their superstar. But more importantly, each and every
one of those guys has had better and career years.
Even though he continues to lead the league in scoring,
and now you see him becoming much more facilitator and playmaker.
I think he's only going to get better over these
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next few years.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
We came up with a new category. It's you know,
not Hall of Famer, but Hall of great So like
Jamal Crawford, Joe Johnson, you know, the guys who aren't
Hall of Famers, but they're right there. So do you
have a nominee for the Hall of great.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
I can give you a bunch of them.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
I'll start with Rip Hamilton and I got a chance
to see Riff at the you know, eybl event last weekend.
He's a guy that I'm not sure if he'll get
into the Hall of Fame, but he is absolutely great.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
You think about Larry Johnson.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
I mean, you can look at the Knick sideline alone,
to the people showing up the trell' spree, well, Alan Houston.
You go down the list of guys who have been there,
just the Knick Stakes alone, that I've been fortunate to
be able to hang out with for the last couple
of days in this series. All those guys are in
that area. They've been all stars and at the same
time may not be Hall of Famers, but you know,
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you cannot duplicate what those guys were able to do,
especially in the era in which.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
They were able to do it.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
And you take each and every one of those guys,
and you transplant them into today's era, that scoring average
goes up five to six one points per game, that.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Efficiency goes up.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
And now you're talking about guys who are Hall of
Fame players.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Anybody scare you when you played?
Speaker 4 (14:00):
I mean Michael Jordan. But other than that, no.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
But you know, the first time I met Mike Dan,
we were at a game. It's called the World's Greatest
Pickup Game in Greensboro, North Carolina. His agent, Fred Whitfield,
we should put it on. And you walk in the room,
and the first time you see Mike, it's that horror
around him. But one thing about Michael Jordan, he doesn't
let to look at him like that because he immediately
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starts talking trash to you, and he knows all of
your history, of your background or whatever may be. So
he basically welcomes people by talking trash to them. And
all of a sudden, now you open up, you're having
this debate with Michael Jordan. You walk away from there
thinking yourself, Wow, I just got a chance to talk
to Michael Jordan. But when it's all said and done,
when you got to see him in at Chicago, twenty three,
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it was a different world. And again, like just to
see the way that the community showed up and cheered
for him, even against you on home.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
Games, etc. That would be the only guy.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
That I think that's really during my time of covering
the NBA, that's really insight fear into anyone, and that
includes any player today. I mean, he's the only guy
I thought that people actually fear great.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
To talk to you. Let's do this again, have fun
on Saturday. Safe travels to Indiana.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Sounds good man, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
That's Corey Alexander, ESPN Radio analyst, be working for the
Mothership Game six and start coverage at seven thirty Eastern.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
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Speaker 2 (15:36):
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Twitter handle at DP show. Pacers still up going back home.
Nicks are getting four on Saturday night as they rough
up the Pacers one eleven to ninety four. And we
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have our Stanley Cup Final. It's a rematch from last year.
It's the Oilers versus the Panthers. College football closing in
on a tweaked playoff model. There have been a couple
of different scenarios there and from what I'm told from
my source, it's gotten heated. It's gotten heated because the
Big twelve in ACC are trying to stand up to
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the Big ten and the SEC, and that's that's where
the kind of the fracture lies here. But we're talking
about a lot of money at stake here and the
ACC in Big twelve, you know, tired of getting kicked
to the curb and you know, losing teams that they're
trying to hold on for dear life. So they get
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at least two automatic berths from their conferences. But that
we hoped to have Greg Zanke, the SEC Commissioner on
next week, and he seems to be the one kind
of in the crossfire here trying to defend the SEC
also the Big Ten as well. They seem to be
partnering here, and I think the rest of college football saying, hey,
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wait a minute, what about us. Ross Tucker CBS Sports
Westwood One, NFL college analyst and host of the Ross
Tunker Football podcast. You can check him out on social
media at Ross Tucker NFL. We were talking about pressure.
Now it's ninety eight days until the start of the
NFL season, and PAULI said it to me yesterday. He goes,
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you know, we're ninety nine days away, and I was thinking,
all right, now's the time. Who has the most pressure?
And then we started coming up with different levels, different
tiers of most pressure, player, team, coach. Let's start there,
who has the most pressure going into this upcoming season?
Speaker 5 (18:03):
Ooh, that is an interesting one. And I have been
paying attention on social media and listening a little bit.
I kind of agree, by the way, what PAULI was
saying earlier. I don't really think that the Giants Joe
Shane and Brian Dable I think they have that much pressure.
I don't think anybody really thinks them that they're going
to keep their job after this year. I mean, they
have the hardest schedule in the NFL. I think they'll
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probably put Jackson Dart out there by week eight. Dan.
I mean, it's funny when you really know the way
the NFL works, which is that it's all about job preservation, right,
you understand why teams operate the way they do. The
giants bring in Russell Wilson and Jamis Winston. They're gonna
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take a shot, and this is their first shot this
year to try to be good, try to be competitive,
Have Russell go out there. Maybe they can get to
five hundred and that's enough another year. If it doesn't
go well midway through the year, you put in Jackson Dart.
You hope that he shows enough or does enough that
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ownership wants to give you another year. It really is
funny to me to see how many of these moves
are made really with self interest in mind. So that's
a different kind of pressure because I think that most people,
myself included, I don't expect either one of those to work.
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I think that Shane and Dable probably will be gone
this year. Maybe I'm wrong. We'll see then there's a
totally different pressure for like the Josh Allen Sean McDermott
combo or the Lamar Jackson John Harbaugh combo. Neither one
of those quarterbacks are going anywhere, but you know, we
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do frame the conversation differently if they keep coming up
short in the postseason for those guys. The interesting thing there,
Dan is if neither one of them makes it to
the AFC Championship Game this year, you wonder if at
some point, either Terry Pigoula, the owner of the Bills,
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or Steve Baschetty, the owner of the Ravens, says man,
we got a really good team, We've got a really
good roster. We have one of the three or four
best quarterbacks in the NFL. Maybe we just need to
change something because it feels like both those teams have
kind of been banging their head against the wall the
last five or six years trying to get past the Chiefs,
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trying to get to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
That's a lot there, I would say, definitely Lamar Jackson
and John Harball. Hardball's career is similar to Mike Tomlin.
You know, when you look at they always have a
good product out there. You know, five, you know, always
over five hundred, it feels like, and they both have
one super Bowl. Would Mike Tomlin still have his job
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if he didn't have that one super Bowl?
Speaker 5 (21:04):
I don't think with many franchises, But I think the
Pittsburgh Steelers are just so consistent and so stoked in
trying to keep as much loyalty as they can. And
I think, to be honest with you, I give him
a lot of credit. It's funny because where I live,
I know a lot of Steelers fans, Dan, and a
lot of them are really down on Tomlin, right, They
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really do not like Tomlin. And I guess what I
would say to them is he's won a lot of
football games. I heard you talking earlier, Dan, without really
having a top half of the league quarterback. I mean,
that is so hard to do.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
Now.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
What's interesting there is how much power does he have
over the personnel over the last few years? In other words,
how much of that do you put right and directly
on Mike Tomlin. I think that him winning that super
Bowl obviously helps quite a bit the difference between the
Ravens and the Steelers. As I know, you know, Steelers
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haven't won a playoff game in a long time. However,
Steelers haven't had Lamar Jackson either, so you could actually
have a really healthy debate and discussion as to which
coach is better. I think Tomlin or Harbaugh. I think
both of them if they were ever let go, there'd
be a dozen teams that would look to hire them
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because they're considered top ten, if not top five coaches
in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
We talked about the pressure on Trevor Lawrence. At some
point he has to show are you one of the
top five seven quarterbacks? You're being paid that way? The
pressure on Tua and Mike McDaniel in Miami that this
might be a make or break year for at least
the coach. Which one has more pressure to the Dolphins
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or Trevor Lawrence with Jacksonville.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
So I think Trevor Lawrence has more pressure because this
is now his third head coach right Whereas Tua I
think has played pretty well. It's been more of the
injury issues and the concussions. But if the Dolphins have
a down year, I think they fire McDaniel and I
think Tua is still the starting quarterback with a new
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head coach. If Trevor Lawrence really struggles, then you kind
of wonder what Liam Cohen and Tony Vasselli and Gladstone
and the new regime starts to think. Now, I think
Trevor just got a deal. They maybe both just got
contracts before the twenty twenty four season, if memory serves,
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might have been twenty twenty three for one of those guys,
So they got money fairly recently. So it would be
a little bit messy to move on. But I think
out of those two players in particular, I think it's
on Lawrence and I think he gets a pass nationally
way way more than he should.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
He's Ross Tucker with the Ross Tucker Football Podcast. Also
you can hear him and see him on the NFL
in college football with CBS Sports and Westwood One. Pressure
on Justin Herbert or do we look at it's Jim
Harbaugh who has that pressure? Like who has more pressure?
If you're gonna divvy it up with the quarterback and
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the coach with the Chargers.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
I'm gonna say it's fifty to fifty. If anything, though,
I would probably lean to Herbert because again, this is
a scenario where this is a second head coach for him.
You know, Harbaugh kind of comes in the Chargers were down.
He leads him to the playoffs, and Harbaugh has a
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significant track record of success with the Niners, with Michigan,
even going back to Stanford. Right, Herbert not as much,
And in particular, there's a perception, right or wrong, that
Herbert doesn't play his best when it matters the most.
I almost felt bad for him in that playoff game
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against the Texans because I knew what was coming. And
so I like to go into a year and look
at which quarterbacks. Man, it's really it's more on them now,
and I think Herbert's one of those guys. I think
Caleb Williams. I know it's only a year two Dan,
but the Bears did something they've never done before, which
is pay top dollar for a head coach. They redid
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the whole old line, okay, interior offensive line in front
of him. The first two picks, Coleston Lovelin with the
tenth pick Luther Burden with a top ten second round pick,
are both skill guys. The Bears are doing everything possible
to try to set up Caleb Williams for success. Now
you got those quotes from the book with Wickersham, which
(25:55):
will come out you know, the day after the Bears
first game. I think there's a little bit of sneaky
pressure on Williams because those quotes and that book have
kind of put even more of a spotlight on him
than there already was. And it feels like whenever you're
one of these number one pick guys, Trevor Lawrence, Caleb Williams, whoever,
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people want to blame everybody else as long as they can,
especially the fans, right like Jacksonville fans. It's almost like
franchise quarterback Stan It's like a religion and people want
to hang on to that belief as long as they can.
Jaguars fans want to believe in Trevor Lawrence until they
(26:38):
absolutely can't. Bears fans want to believe in Caleb so
so badly. But with the microscope on him this year,
if he struggles, I think that that could be interesting
as well.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
I'm also wondering about you know, the Niners were on
the clock with a lot of pressure the last couple
of years. You know, they do make it to a
super Bowl, you make it to you know, Conference, But
I don't know if we're applying the pressure that was
on them before. It's weird. We kind of moved on.
Now it's the Lions that it feels like there's more
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pressure on Detroit than it is San Francisco. Do you
see it that way?
Speaker 5 (27:17):
I understand why some people do. I don't think that
should be the case at all. I mean, the Niners
are coming off of a six and eleven season. If
they have another down year, they have some serious questions
to ask because their core isn't getting any younger, right,
I mean Trent Williams at left tackle, McCaffrey, you know,
(27:39):
we don't know if Christian will ever come back and
be the guy he was. We know they've now locked
up party, but Kittle's not getting younger, you know, And
I wonder, you know, I applaud organizations that show patients,
and even after the Niners have a down year here
or down yere there, they recognize they have a good,
(28:00):
good coach and Kyle Shanahan. Two down years in a row,
things get a little bit different, Then things get a
little bit tighter. I don't think it's gonna happen, because
I think they're gonna be very good. They have the
easiest schedule in the NFL. I think the Niners are
actually gonna bounce back in a major way. But if
they don't, if they have another losing season, things will
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get very interesting there that there is some in Detroit,
Dan but and maybe because of the fact they lost
both coordinators and there's this feeling that, man, this is
their window to get over the hump. But I have
a tough time picturing them making any major change in
Detroit after this season, barring something totally unforeseen, because you
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have to remember, it's been a long time since we
were even talking about there being pressure in Detroit, because
they're even good enough to have pressure.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
I'll leave you with this with the flag football with
the US team, this has been suggest Could we get
an NFL team that goes against the best flag football
team that's out there, and then the winner gets to
go and represent the United States in flag football. I
think it'd be musty TV if people are going to
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be shocked when they look at guys who do are
professional flag football players, just how different it is, how
different they play than the NFL. But if you did,
here's your NFL team, and I'm going to get the
best flag football team. The winner represents the United States
and the Olympics.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
I think it's an incredible idea. I think I saw
where you know, maybe my buddy Jason Kelcey was talking
about that as well. I think the guys that have
been playing flag football for years, I think they deserve
that opportunity. I would watch that game. That would maybe
be like the second flag football game I've ever watched,
because I watched a couple of years ago if you remember,
(29:59):
I can't remember what it was, but these full time
flag football guys, they played against former NFL guys like
Seneca Wallace was the quarterback for the other team, you know,
for the for the former NFL, and they beat him,
and they beat him bad. You know, the flag current
flag football guys beat the former NFL guys. That said,
(30:21):
I don't know how much time the former NFL guys
put into it. If you gave actual NFL players a
month to really understand the game, the rules, because the
rules are different, they're unique, I'm pretty confident that they
would beat the flag football guys. But it still would
be very entertaining to watch. And I think it's like
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it's like a pros versus Joe's thing, right, Everybody would
kind of tune in to see how these guys would
do against the guys they're used to seeing in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Stefan Diggs didn't invite you on the yacht, did he?
Speaker 5 (30:56):
No?
Speaker 4 (30:56):
I was not.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
Invited on the yacht. I will say this, I am
open to any yacht invitations ever. I'm a big yacht guy.
I just don't know enough people that have yachts or super.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
You're you're a boat guy. You're not a yacht guy.
Speaker 5 (31:13):
I'm a pontoon boat guy with a cooler full of
beer and just floating down the river. I don't need
a yet. Okay, let me ask them. Why would you
pay hundreds of millions of dollars for a yacht when
you can just go in the river or even a
stream on like a kayak and have a cooler of
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beer there and it's the same thing. You're in water,
you're drinking beer either way. What's the difference.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
The shorties don't like a kayak, I'm just gonna be
honest with you. But a pontoon, you know, they might
be interested in a floating living room there.
Speaker 5 (31:50):
But pontoon boats are the party boats. Man. They're awesome.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
That's what I got. Yeah, that's that's what I got
all aboard a great to talk to you have a
great weekend.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
Thank you as.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Always always you too. Thanks Dan Ross Tucker, host of
the Ross Tucker Football Podcast, and you can check him
out on social media at Ross Tucker, NFL. Ryan Cranston,
great actor, got a new movie. They'll join us coming
up more phone calls as well. Let's take a break
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(33:50):
He was Malcolm in the Middle, he was Breaking Bad.
Now he's got two more movies coming out, Diehard Los
Angeles Sports Fan. He's got the Phoenicians game that opens
up May thirtieth, nationwide June second, and then Everything's going
to be great opens up June twentieth. Look at you,
miss dir actor there, how do you have common? Thanks?
(34:12):
Thanks for spending some time with us.
Speaker 8 (34:14):
Brian, Yeah, I don't have a lot of time for
these these opening remarks.
Speaker 9 (34:18):
We got to get right to the meat.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
DP.
Speaker 8 (34:20):
Okay, and by the way, I miss I miss saying
the opening stats. I always like to go seven foot four,
one hundred and fourteen pounds.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Give me what is yourt what is your height and weight?
Speaker 9 (34:32):
My height and weight?
Speaker 8 (34:33):
Well, I used to be six foot but I'm probably
five to eleven now.
Speaker 9 (34:38):
My weight is one eighty two. I'd like to get
that down.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
But do you why about your height or weight? Do
actors do that?
Speaker 9 (34:49):
Of course we do? Why why would you not?
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Okay? Now I was told this four that it's harder
to be a better actor, great actor, if you're taller.
Speaker 10 (35:08):
Any truth, there are a few actors of great height
who are actually who actually became stars, much many more
who were smaller. But it is also true that most
actors who become stars have large heads, like elephant titus heads.
Speaker 9 (35:33):
You know, they have to have prop them up over there.
And blue eyes if you have light eyes.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Really, yeah, Okay, who's got a big noggin? That's a
great actor. Well you just think about any brando grab
a big head.
Speaker 9 (35:50):
Oh, well, enormous like a coconut. Yeah, he wash and all.
I mean, all these people, even even the women.
Speaker 8 (36:00):
Women who have larger heads, have a better chance to
be a movie star.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
That's not true. That's not true.
Speaker 9 (36:09):
Well I'm trying.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
You know, David Hasselhoff had a big head, but not
a great actor.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
He was.
Speaker 9 (36:19):
He's a lovely guy. I was going to say he
was a lovely guy. But he's still alive. Nice guy.
Speaker 8 (36:25):
I did an episode of Baywatch back in the day
where I played I think my character name was like
drunken boat captain or something like that.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
But but you didn't have a speedo on, like you
weren't running in slow motion on on Baywatch.
Speaker 10 (36:44):
No.
Speaker 8 (36:45):
No, when I'm in skimpy underwear, it's it's full on
motion everything you want to see everything, apparently.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
But did Walter White have to wear tidy whities?
Speaker 4 (36:57):
No?
Speaker 8 (36:58):
You know, it was interesting because after seven years of
Malcolm in the Middle, where Hal wore tidy whities because
I thought it was appropriate because he was just a
big boy, so he never really grew up, and for
some reason, Vince Gilligan wrote that Walter White wore tidy whities.
And I went to the wardrobe call and I said, well,
(37:20):
I just did seven years. So I tried on boxers
and I tried on law and it's like, you know what,
there's some reason that he did this, and I'm just
going to go with it. And that image of him
in the desert, that first poster of the gun and
his tidy whities is so pathetic that I thought, oh,
(37:42):
that's I think that's the image he wanted.
Speaker 4 (37:43):
To go for.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
But how often do you question when you have a
director or there's something on the page where you offer
feedback or you're going to stand up for what you
think might be right.
Speaker 8 (37:57):
All the time, all the time, you're constantly making adjustments.
Speaker 9 (38:02):
I just did a couple episodes of the show of.
Speaker 8 (38:05):
The Studio where my character at the end shows up
in leopard, very skinny bikini briefs which I chose, and
stockings with garter clips and a girdle, and where he
wears a Dicky.
Speaker 9 (38:22):
Is the most ridiculous looking guy in the world.
Speaker 8 (38:25):
And I wanted all of those things, and so we
just adjusted it to those and I surprised seth Rogen
when I walked out of the room and he saw
me for the first time on camera.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
It's a great character because it came out of nowhere,
you know, first episode, and I'm like, oh my god.
It's like, you know, this combination of you're gonna try
to bring in every studio head of all the things
that are negative about them or over the top about them,
and you just kind of combined it with one character,
and it was like, all right, yeah, that's Hollywood right there.
Speaker 9 (39:01):
It is kind of patterned.
Speaker 8 (39:02):
I patterned him after Robert Evans, famous studio head of
the Paramount in the seventies, did great movies, but he
was always super tan, bleached his teeth, he always wore
very masculine clothes.
Speaker 9 (39:18):
He was that kind of guy. His shirt was unbuttoned.
Speaker 8 (39:20):
To his navel, you know. And it was, Hey, maybe
you know that, dude, So that's more fun to play
a guy like that.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
I got the picture here from Baywatch. PAULI just sent
it to me. Wow, okay, those are short shorts she
got on.
Speaker 9 (39:37):
By the way, those were the times. Don't tell me
you didn't have short shorts in that.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
I did in this idea.
Speaker 9 (39:44):
Everybody did remember the NBA back in the day.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
Yeah, I you know, growing up, I had short shorts
and John Stockton I think was like the last holdout,
Like you know, he was the last guy to wear
short shorts too. Holly have on this episode with with
Brian on Babas.
Speaker 11 (40:03):
That fine episode of Baywatch November eighty nine, Brian Cranston
played Captain Tom Logan and he was wearing like op
shorts and like those croaky glasses, and his hair was
completely down the middle and feathered.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
I could looks good. Were you at that time?
Speaker 9 (40:20):
Uh?
Speaker 8 (40:21):
Yeah, yeah, I've been Robin and I have been married
for thirty six years now.
Speaker 9 (40:25):
Yeah, yeah, okay eighty nine.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Yeah, but you're there on Baywatch.
Speaker 9 (40:29):
I mean, oh yeah, those they're out there.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
Did anybody notice Captain Tom Logan of you know the
women they did you catch anybody's eye there?
Speaker 9 (40:46):
You know, I don't know. I don't know whose eye
I caught. Oh my god?
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Were you born in Hollywood?
Speaker 8 (40:54):
I was born in the city of Hollywood, Yes, right
in Hollywood and raised in Los Angeles in the San
Fernando Valley.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
And famous classmates.
Speaker 8 (41:07):
No, I didn't have any famous classmates. Uh in the area.
Speaker 5 (41:13):
I think.
Speaker 8 (41:14):
Well, Kevin Spacey went to the same high school a
couple of years after me, but then transferred out to
go to a better theater school. But outside of that,
they're really no, no, no famous, no one famous.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
Tougher to get Nick's tickets courtside or Laker tickets court.
Speaker 9 (41:36):
Side, Laker tickets courtside.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
Tougher, tougher. Yeah, it's just process.
Speaker 9 (41:43):
It's just jam.
Speaker 4 (41:45):
Well.
Speaker 8 (41:45):
First, there is a way I can give advice to
all the listeners and viewers about how to get courtside
seats first. Become a television star or a movie star.
Do that first, then you'll have a lot better chance
of getting court side seats. But I did get court
(42:05):
side seats last year to mix pacers, had a great time,
had a great time watching it, and they're.
Speaker 9 (42:14):
Back at it again.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
I know. But you know your sitcom famous with Malcolm
in the Middle and then breaking back, like you know,
I'm going to guess breaking bad you got it was
easier to get the tickets than with Malcolm in the Middle.
Speaker 8 (42:31):
Yeah, it gave me a higher profile absolutely, Okay, So yeah,
that's what I get mostly recognized for. I would say
I'd say like seven out of ten people who approached
for you, Okay, there.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
I think I just broke something. My mic collapsed here,
and that's how.
Speaker 8 (42:54):
About seven out of ten people recognize me as Walter White.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
Yeah, so I want to talk about the Phoenician Scheme. Yeah,
because Wes Anderson does things differently than anybody else. How
would you describe what he does as a filmmaker.
Speaker 9 (43:15):
Well, he is the truest sense of the word auteur.
Speaker 8 (43:20):
There is no way that anyone can say, oh, I
think I know what Wes is thinking on this.
Speaker 9 (43:27):
I think I know where he's going.
Speaker 5 (43:28):
To go with this.
Speaker 9 (43:29):
You just don't know at all.
Speaker 8 (43:34):
It is a unique journey when you do a Wes
Anderson movie because it's always clever, it's always surprising, and
it's just it's so much fun. But the thing about
from an actor's point of view, doing the Phoenician Scheme
or Asteroid City before that, or it's the experience of
(43:56):
being with him and all the actors at the same
time at the dinner every night after you work, and
that kind of camaraderie was so much fun. In fact,
Tom Hanks calls it actor camp. It's a good hang
and we and all the actors are there. We're having
wine and cocktails and food, and we're talking about things
(44:19):
that were worried about or families and things like that
without worrying about prying eyes or ears around us, and
we can just be open and it's a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
So Tom Hanks, I believe plays your brother. You got
Michael Sarah in there, Scarlett Johansson, Benicio del Toro, Yeah, yeah, pretty.
Speaker 8 (44:41):
Good, Benedict Cumberbatch, Rez Ahmed. I mean it's a big,
big cast. And Tom and I are playing brothers.
Speaker 9 (44:49):
Well we think we're brothers. It was never actually established,
but they're they're so so alike.
Speaker 8 (44:55):
Now there's a basketball sequence in the movie that Tom
and I are in involved in. And when we got
to the set where where asked, okay, who who can
do this?
Speaker 9 (45:07):
And who could do that?
Speaker 8 (45:07):
And so Tom, Tom's going, I can't really dribble very well,
I'll go I'll dribble and I said, look, I got
problems with my shoulders.
Speaker 9 (45:15):
I got arts right.
Speaker 8 (45:16):
And it's like, if you went to the assisted living center,
they get two basketball players.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
People sent me that clip of you got of you
shooting basketball, wondering if you were trying to model your
shot after me for some reason, And I said, well
if he, if he was trying, he didn't do a
very good job because.
Speaker 9 (45:39):
He because I made them dripping.
Speaker 2 (45:41):
No, it wasn't dripping with athleticism. I'm just going to say,
you know, as a basketball player, you're a great actor.
Speaker 8 (45:49):
Uh yeah, No, I wasn't modeling myself after you.
Speaker 9 (45:53):
You're You're They broke the mold.
Speaker 2 (45:56):
Dan Patrick, The Phoenician ski that comes out May thirtieth,
and then nationwide June second, And Everything's going to be
Great that comes out June twentieth. Yeah, did you shoot
these around the same time?
Speaker 8 (46:13):
No Venetian scheme we shot last year. Everything's going to
be Great we shot before it. But it's it's like
jockeying for position and who's going to and what's the
right time to come out with a movie, and you
know it's those decisions are made by someone else. But
Everything's going to be Great is also a really it's
(46:33):
a beautiful film with Alison, Janny and myself, and it
reminded me of Little Miss Sunshine from years ago. It's
funny and sweet and sad and engaging.
Speaker 2 (46:46):
Yeah, anyway, little Miss sunshine, that final dance scene.
Speaker 9 (46:53):
Yeah, fun stuff.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
Brings down the house, yes, Alan Arca, I mean there's
so many great performance is in there.
Speaker 5 (47:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
It's one of those little sneaky surprise movies where you're like, damn,
I don't you know. Everybody when you watch movies like,
I don't know it's going to be nominated. Everything's going
to be nominated. Instead of just watching movies, I think
we're always like, well, what's going to do at the
box office? Is anybody gonna go see this in the
movie theaters. It's kind of like the pressure. I don't
know how different it is now than let's say, you know,
(47:23):
fifteen years ago.
Speaker 4 (47:24):
It's a lot different.
Speaker 8 (47:26):
When you and I were kids, every show, every morning show,
every news show had a movie and television reviewer specifically
to relate to the audience what they felt was good
of high quality. They fired all of those people, and
so now the newsreaders just read off what made the
(47:48):
most money last weekend at the box office as if
that's the indication of quality, and so it's it's kind
of sad.
Speaker 9 (47:55):
So you really need the word of mouth to be
able to say don't miss this movie or that movie.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
Paulie told me that there might be Uh, we're bringing
back Malcolm in the Middle, is there a.
Speaker 9 (48:07):
Yeah, we did it. We shot it already.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
Oh you shot it. Oh we did.
Speaker 9 (48:13):
We did four episodes for Disney and we just finished it.
Speaker 8 (48:19):
So that'll be out probably either later this year or
early next year.
Speaker 9 (48:24):
And man, I got to tell you, it was so
much fun. All the all the kids came back. And
you know.
Speaker 8 (48:30):
It's funny because the boys for Malcolm in the Middle
are all around the same age that I was when
we first started the show twenty five years ago. Wow,
they have kids of their own. It's so great to
see and and the and the adults that they've become.
Speaker 9 (48:48):
It's really fantastic.
Speaker 2 (48:51):
When you do the race walking scene, do you do
you still have that outfit? Because I'd love to put
it in a mandicap.
Speaker 9 (48:58):
Oh would you? It would have to be on it,
It would have to be on a mannequin.
Speaker 2 (49:03):
Yes, yes, I'd get a mannequin.
Speaker 8 (49:05):
Well, let me see if I can get it for you,
because i'd love to see it on your show.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
Well, why don't you drop everything that you're doing and
like do something for me, like right now?
Speaker 9 (49:17):
Like that was that was implied, of course I'm gonna
drop everything. Yes, absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 2 (49:25):
I don't like nothing else. No, don't read any scripts
or anything. It's like, nope, I can't. I'm sending you
an outfit from Malcolm in the Middle to Dan Patrick.
Speaker 9 (49:34):
I'm wondering if they still have it.
Speaker 8 (49:37):
I don't know, but man, that was a funny, funny thing,
and I was, you know, I was real trim then.
Speaker 9 (49:44):
I was like one seventy two or three something.
Speaker 2 (49:48):
Well, I'm not gonna wear it, and I'm gonna put
it on the mannequin. But I think you.
Speaker 9 (49:52):
Should wear it. I think you should should put it off.
Speaker 2 (49:56):
Will Ferrell brought the testicles from step Brothers that he rubbed.
He brought him to Ireland and uh, we were doing
our show over there, and he brought the testicles that
he rubbed on h William c Riley's drum set. Yeah. Yeah, okay,
I'm just saying.
Speaker 9 (50:14):
I also, I also brought you a treat.
Speaker 7 (50:17):
You did you brought me?
Speaker 2 (50:19):
Yeah? That was a fake penis thing that you had
for the covers.
Speaker 8 (50:24):
Yes, exactly, an erection toy.
Speaker 9 (50:32):
Where is that? I don't see that anywhere on the set.
Speaker 2 (50:34):
It's it's it's it's in here, yes, Paul. Oh, it's
prominently displayed.
Speaker 11 (50:38):
People always ask what it is.
Speaker 2 (50:40):
It's on the other side. It's I'm up in Maine.
So this is in the the main or the regular No,
it's all the way on the other side by the
account we're getting it. Yeah, you'll be able to just
see it. Hold on, well, I got my cameraman walking
over there. But oh yeah, they're there there it is.
(51:03):
It's it's right by my l a charger helmet. And uh,
I've got your whatever that thing is that you gave me.
Speaker 9 (51:10):
But I've talk about it getting a charge. Oh yeah.
That was from a movie.
Speaker 8 (51:18):
Called uh what was that called?
Speaker 4 (51:21):
Jeez?
Speaker 9 (51:23):
Uh?
Speaker 8 (51:26):
That was called The Upside? The Upside with kevil Heart
and and and uh.
Speaker 2 (51:32):
Nicole, your and your upside right there. It's like, hello, well,
good luck with everything. Thanks thanks for joining us as always.
Speaker 9 (51:46):
Well, thank you, it's always good to see you.
Speaker 8 (51:49):
And uh, whenever you get out to l A or
down to New York, give a holler.
Speaker 9 (51:55):
I'd love to have you buy me lunch.
Speaker 2 (51:57):
Why don't you give me a holler when you're.
Speaker 5 (51:59):
In New York.
Speaker 9 (52:01):
Well you're not in New York.
Speaker 5 (52:03):
I know.
Speaker 2 (52:03):
But I can get to New York.
Speaker 9 (52:05):
Okay, I will. I will give you a holler, as
they said in the.
Speaker 2 (52:10):
Old day, and I'll buy you dinner. Lovely, lovely, all right,
all right. He's Brian Cranston, The Phoenicians Scheme, Wes Anderson,
and if you're a fan of those movies, then you
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You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio Nixon Pacers Saturday night in Indiana.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
The Knicks are four point underdogs. Corey Alexander been doing
a great job calling the action on ESPN Radio. He's
a college basketball analyst as well, played seven seasons in
the NBA, and he'll continue his coverage tomorrow night, game six,
starting at seven thirty Eastern on the mother Ship. Corey,
the level of concern for Pacer fans Pacer players is
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what in your opinion.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
I believe it's probably about a five on a scale
of one to ten right now, Dan, And the reason
being is because you know, Tyre's Halliburton was so lacadamsically
and the last night's game, and it's something that we've
seen from Tyre's Halliburton throughout his playoff career the last
two seasons, and you don't there's no reason. There's really
no rhythm to it. It's just some days he's not
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the same player. Especially coming off of historic performance thirty two,
fifteen and twelve with zero turnovers in Game five, you
would expect it to see him be more aggressive on
the road.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
They didn't see that.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
But I do believe he will see it tomorrow night
in game six, which that's why the concern is only
a five.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
I don't know if this is a big deal. It
felt like somebody was or some people are trying to
make it a big deal. Pascal Siakam postgame said they
played harder than the Pacers, Like you can say they
executed better, but in a game five with a chance
to go to the NBA Finals, a team played harder
than you.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
But it was the case.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
He told the truth, and oftentimes you know that that's
the thing we asked players to be honest.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
He told the truth, and the mix did play harder.
The misplayed with.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
A sense of urgency and a sense of desperation, and
the Pacers played as though they knew they had another
opportunity to be able to close out on their home
floor in a game six. And Pascal Siakam was spot on.
The Knicks did play harder. It may not be something
that you want to hear from your teammate in the
locker room, but at the same time, everybody in a
locker room that was part of that game to look
at each other at high and say it's absolute truth.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
The next day and play harder than we did tonight.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Tougher to defend Halliburton or Brunson.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Tougher to defend Brunton. And the reason being is because Brunson,
regardless of the whether he's making shots, he's missing shots,
whatever may be, he is constantly going to stay aggressive.
He's going to continue to come at you every opportunity
he gets. And more importantly, jleb Brunson, it doesn't matter
who's on the floor, he'd be playing with Michael Jordan.
And when it's all said and done, when Jayleonn Brunton
steps on the basketball court, he thinks he's the best
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player on the court, and he was last night.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yeah, I'm fascinated by just his style. It's relentless. He
just keeps coming, you know, it's it's all. It's always
going forward and I love that. I just don't know
the rest. You know, Karl Anthony Towns played pretty well.
Seemed pretty mobile for a guy that was you know,
I guess had a questionable knee going into that game
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last night.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Yeah, he was very mobile.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
And when you consider Karl Anthony Towns and he really
gets his opportunities to.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Start the second quarter, start the fourth quarter, when.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Jalen Brunt's on the bench, but with the new starting
lineup that Timbs has employed over the last three games,
Jalen doesn't have as much spacing, which makes the three
point field goal so much more important for him. He
got off to a hot start, knocking down threes in
that first quarter, fourteen first quarter points. I believe he
had sixteen in the third quarter. I'm not sure if
he scored in the second or the fourth, But when
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you think about the second the fourth along the cat
they have a great rotation in the way that they're
doing things offensively, and they work in game five. The
problem is the Pacers know that. Will it be able
to work for the Knicks in game six on the road?
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Why is it you think we in the media try
to fast track somebody to be face of the pace
of the sport or the next great players. Is he
a superstar? A lot of these players were talking about
are twenty three to twenty seven years of age. It's like,
we don't give you that grace period before you know,
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Michael Jordan had a grace period, and you know Bird
and Magic, everybody kind of got a grace period. We
don't let these younger players now, and like Cooper Flagg
coming in, how long is his grace period before we say,
I don't know, can you win win a title here?
Why do we do it?
Speaker 3 (04:21):
We do it because and Dan, you've been in this
industry much longer than I have, believe it or not.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
I was with you in the gym. I believe it's.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Concord Athletic Club back in San Antonio getting shots up
back in the day.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
So you've been doing this for a long time.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
And the difference is I can say that my company,
you know, or our company be it at Disney, is
going to pay two point eight billion dollars next year
for rights at the NBA, which means that it's not
about the games, it's about content. And so from seven
am to eleven pm, you have to talk about the game,
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and therefore there have to be things to talk about.
That's the difference in today's game in comparison to when
I was playing.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
In the NBA.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
And even before we're talking about there has to be
some type of conversation to keep the viewers watching and
keep them off of social media and keep them watching TV.
So when you think about that, that's the reason why,
and again it's constant. And not only that, but these
guys don't necessarily care about being the face of the
NBA anymore. The reason being is because when Michael Jordan
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was playing, Dad, you had to be the face of
the NBA to become a billionaire.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
With these contracts, Now you don't have to be.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Anthony Evers can be a billionaire without being the face
of the NBA after just three contracts and of course
everything that he gets off the court.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Talking to Corey Alexander, ESPN Radio, an list and he'll
be calling Game six on the Mothership. That'll be at
seven thirty Eastern on Saturday. How was my jumper? By
the way in San Antonio.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
I am calling to vouch for you, my man.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
You actually can shoot the basketball. I believe it was
Bennie del Dagro in there with you. I'm not sure
you had another one of your anchors, maybe Oberman. I
know it was a Stewards, but well, I think it
was maybe Overman with you, and it was Benny del
Negro myself. I'm not sure Dale Dimps I know was
in there. But you can shoot the basketball. Man.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
If anybody ever.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Questions it to them to come see me. I've seen
it with my own two eyes. You were knocking down
shots that day.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Thank you. I appreciate that. And you're a great journalist,
is what you are. I think I'm a better deep
shooter than Vinnie Del Negro. Vinnie was a great fifteen
to eighteen feet, but he didn't come out to where
grown men shoot.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
Vinnie was a master of the mid range. That was
his game. But I agree, and I used to talk
to him all the time in practice. I was like,
come on, o here in the deep water, get out
of kiddie poole.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
He wanted, no problem with that, But in the kiddie pool,
he's one of the best to ever do it.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Best shooter you ever faced, the.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
Best shooter I've ever faced, poo.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
I'm gonna go as far as to say his name
is now my mood, abdul Rahu. He was once Chris Jackson,
but you're talking about one of the best of the best.
And again, the dude was relentless. He had the best touch.
You know, he was so locked in on making every
possible shot and it was so quick, honestly, and again,
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you know, Steph Curry's my nephew will love him to death.
Del's like a big brother to be. Chris Jackson was
Steph Curry before Steph Curry. The way the game has
changed has allowed for Steph Curry to be able to
do what he's doing.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
If you couldn't handcheck Chris Jackson.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Mark mud Abdul Roh, if you couldn't be physical with
him the way that the game is played now, I'm
not saying that he would have been Steph, but he
would have been very close to what we've seen Steph
do over the last ten years.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
You want to talk about getting a shot off, like,
you know when when he would his handle was wonderful,
and when he was at LSU and he was averaging
thirty a game. You know we didn't. You had Shaq
and Stanley Roberts, but the best player was you know,
six feet tall in Chris Jackson. But in today's game,
you imagine today's game with Chris, you know, just so
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quick at getting that shot off, so.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Quick at getting a shot off was so quick in
general because as you mentioned, to handle it, then he
hit me with a between it last crossover one time,
but I watched it on the Jumbo Trot and I
went off the screen completely. You couldn't even find me
and he just absolutely lost me. But the thing is,
in that era and we're going back to this is
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ninety six, my rookie year. Playing against him, you had
to be able to defend. And that's the reason why
he didn't get as many minutes. He didn't get as
many opportunities because he struggled defensively in today's game where
they often find ways to hide guys who laugh or
a defensive end and you can keep them on the
floor for thirty five to forty minutes. If he had
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that type of I mean, he had that type of time.
And as you talked about that grace period, I mean
again we talked still talking about one to all time greats.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Yeah, Mark Price is another player who had an unbelievably
just go up quick and you know he would average
twenty ten. You know, there's a lot of those. Kevin
Johnson was another twenty ten guy there. Just felt like,
you know, that's what you had to do. Back then,
that's when you had true point guards. But then Steph
became a points guard instead. You know, like he created
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his own label there. Did you have your welcome to
the NBA moment?
Speaker 3 (09:22):
I had a lot of them, and when you just
missed those names, Mark Price, Kevin Johnson, I started getting flashbacks.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
From all those guys having to deal with. But my
welcome to the NBA moment, believe or.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
I came in preseason my rookie year, and I was
playing against Tim Hardaway at Utah.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
So a preseason game at Utah, and of course I watched.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
So much home court. I watched so much Tim Hardaway
growing up and playing. And before the game, you know,
I'm a fan. I walked up to him and I said, Hey,
it's don't hit me with that, and he said, don't
worry about the course, you don't have to be concerned.
But watch what I do to eight, and he bought it,
bught out a new move for Avery in that game.
Of course, those two guys had history for being with
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the workers together, and after he hit.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Avery with the move, it pretty much fun Avery in
the circle. He just looked over.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Breton and gave me a wink, and I knew I
might be in for trouble in this league from that
point on.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Does it matter who wins the East? When you look
at OKC and how good they've been regular season, postseason.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
I do think it matters, and the reason being is
because as good as OKC has been, they are the
best team in the NBA.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
They have the best.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Player right now in the NBA and an SGA. But
the Indiana Pacers can give them a handful. They can
give them everything they want. And the reason being is
because Indiana as a team is just as deep as
are the thunder and they would absolutely make that a series.
I'm not sure if it would be a great series
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if they're going up against the Knicks, because the Knicks
are so front loaded, but.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
When you think about going one through twelve.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
The Pacers are right there. They don't have the star
that the that the thunder half in SGA, but from
a depth standpoint, they can match him totals up.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
And I know it sounds blasphemous to say this, but
SGA has a game. He can lead the league in
scoring multiple years. And you know, the last time, you know,
Iversen was like that. Obviously, Jordan was like, there aren't
a lot of guys that you go every year like
he could lead the league in scoring the next five years.
I wouldn't be surprised at all, but he doesn't. There's
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no highlights really it's just it's methodical. I'm coming at you,
and it may be mid range jumpers, it may be layups,
but that's it. No threes. But it's pretty dominating in
a quiet way.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
I think it really is. And the reason why I
think that he won't end up.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Being a guy that leads a league scoring for the
next few years is because he's becoming an even better playmaker.
And one of the things that Shade said early I
had the chances my first TV game, believe it. When
I was in Oklahoma City this year, and Mark Degnof
told us that Shaye has come into this season with
intent on empowering his teammates because he wants to make
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sure that they are prepared when we get to the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
And it has worked.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
You've seen what Jaalen Williams has done, You've seen what
Chet has done. You consider a team that has really
jailed around their superstar. But more importantly, each and every
one of those guys has had better and career years.
Even though he continues to lead the league in scoring,
and now you see him becoming much more facilitator and playmaker.
I think he's only going to get better over these
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next few years.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
We came up with a new category. It's you know,
not Hall of Famer, but Hall of great So like
Jamal Crawford, Joe Johnson, you know, the guys who aren't
Hall of Famers, but they're right there. So do you
have a nominee for the Hall of great.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
I can give you a bunch of them.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
I'll start with Rip Hamilton and I got a chance
to see Riff at the you know, eybl event last weekend.
He's a guy that I'm not sure if he'll get
into the Hall of Fame, but he is absolutely great.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
You think about Larry Johnson.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
I mean, you can look at the Knick sideline alone,
to the people showing up the trell' spree, well, Alan Houston.
You go down the list of guys who have been there,
just the Knick Stakes alone, that I've been fortunate to
be able to hang out with for the last couple
of days in this series. All those guys are in
that area. They've been all stars and at the same
time may not be Hall of Famers, but you know,
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you cannot duplicate what those guys were able to do,
especially in the era in which.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
They were able to do it.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
And you take each and every one of those guys,
and you transplant them into today's era, that scoring average
goes up five to six one points per game, that.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Efficiency goes up.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
And now you're talking about guys who are Hall of
Fame players.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Anybody scare you when you played?
Speaker 4 (14:00):
I mean Michael Jordan. But other than that, no.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
But you know, the first time I met Mike Dan,
we were at a game. It's called the World's Greatest
Pickup Game in Greensboro, North Carolina. His agent, Fred Whitfield,
we should put it on. And you walk in the room,
and the first time you see Mike, it's that horror
around him. But one thing about Michael Jordan, he doesn't
let to look at him like that because he immediately
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starts talking trash to you, and he knows all of
your history, of your background or whatever may be. So
he basically welcomes people by talking trash to them. And
all of a sudden, now you open up, you're having
this debate with Michael Jordan. You walk away from there
thinking yourself, Wow, I just got a chance to talk
to Michael Jordan. But when it's all said and done,
when you got to see him in at Chicago, twenty three,
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it was a different world. And again, like just to
see the way that the community showed up and cheered
for him, even against you on home.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
Games, etc. That would be the only guy.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
That I think that's really during my time of covering
the NBA, that's really insight fear into anyone, and that
includes any player today. I mean, he's the only guy
I thought that people actually fear great.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
To talk to you. Let's do this again, have fun
on Saturday. Safe travels to Indiana.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Sounds good man, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
That's Corey Alexander, ESPN Radio analyst, be working for the
Mothership Game six and start coverage at seven thirty Eastern.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
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Speaker 2 (15:36):
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We'll join us coming up momentary. The great actor Brian
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Twitter handle at DP show. Pacers still up going back home.
Nicks are getting four on Saturday night as they rough
up the Pacers one eleven to ninety four. And we
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have our Stanley Cup Final. It's a rematch from last year.
It's the Oilers versus the Panthers. College football closing in
on a tweaked playoff model. There have been a couple
of different scenarios there and from what I'm told from
my source, it's gotten heated. It's gotten heated because the
Big twelve in ACC are trying to stand up to
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the Big ten and the SEC, and that's that's where
the kind of the fracture lies here. But we're talking
about a lot of money at stake here and the
ACC in Big twelve, you know, tired of getting kicked
to the curb and you know, losing teams that they're
trying to hold on for dear life. So they get
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at least two automatic berths from their conferences. But that
we hoped to have Greg Zanke, the SEC Commissioner on
next week, and he seems to be the one kind
of in the crossfire here trying to defend the SEC
also the Big Ten as well. They seem to be
partnering here, and I think the rest of college football saying, hey,
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wait a minute, what about us. Ross Tucker CBS Sports
Westwood One, NFL college analyst and host of the Ross
Tunker Football podcast. You can check him out on social
media at Ross Tucker NFL. We were talking about pressure.
Now it's ninety eight days until the start of the
NFL season, and PAULI said it to me yesterday. He goes,
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you know, we're ninety nine days away, and I was thinking,
all right, now's the time. Who has the most pressure?
And then we started coming up with different levels, different
tiers of most pressure, player, team, coach. Let's start there,
who has the most pressure going into this upcoming season?
Speaker 5 (18:03):
Ooh, that is an interesting one. And I have been
paying attention on social media and listening a little bit.
I kind of agree, by the way, what PAULI was
saying earlier. I don't really think that the Giants Joe
Shane and Brian Dable I think they have that much pressure.
I don't think anybody really thinks them that they're going
to keep their job after this year. I mean, they
have the hardest schedule in the NFL. I think they'll
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probably put Jackson Dart out there by week eight. Dan.
I mean, it's funny when you really know the way
the NFL works, which is that it's all about job preservation, right,
you understand why teams operate the way they do. The
giants bring in Russell Wilson and Jamis Winston. They're gonna
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take a shot, and this is their first shot this
year to try to be good, try to be competitive,
Have Russell go out there. Maybe they can get to
five hundred and that's enough another year. If it doesn't
go well midway through the year, you put in Jackson Dart.
You hope that he shows enough or does enough that
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ownership wants to give you another year. It really is
funny to me to see how many of these moves
are made really with self interest in mind. So that's
a different kind of pressure because I think that most people,
myself included, I don't expect either one of those to work.
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I think that Shane and Dable probably will be gone
this year. Maybe I'm wrong. We'll see then there's a
totally different pressure for like the Josh Allen Sean McDermott
combo or the Lamar Jackson John Harbaugh combo. Neither one
of those quarterbacks are going anywhere, but you know, we
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do frame the conversation differently if they keep coming up
short in the postseason for those guys. The interesting thing there,
Dan is if neither one of them makes it to
the AFC Championship Game this year, you wonder if at
some point, either Terry Pigoula, the owner of the Bills,
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or Steve Baschetty, the owner of the Ravens, says man,
we got a really good team, We've got a really
good roster. We have one of the three or four
best quarterbacks in the NFL. Maybe we just need to
change something because it feels like both those teams have
kind of been banging their head against the wall the
last five or six years trying to get past the Chiefs,
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trying to get to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
That's a lot there, I would say, definitely Lamar Jackson
and John Harball. Hardball's career is similar to Mike Tomlin.
You know, when you look at they always have a
good product out there. You know, five, you know, always
over five hundred, it feels like, and they both have
one super Bowl. Would Mike Tomlin still have his job
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if he didn't have that one super Bowl?
Speaker 5 (21:04):
I don't think with many franchises, But I think the
Pittsburgh Steelers are just so consistent and so stoked in
trying to keep as much loyalty as they can. And
I think, to be honest with you, I give him
a lot of credit. It's funny because where I live,
I know a lot of Steelers fans, Dan, and a
lot of them are really down on Tomlin, right, They
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really do not like Tomlin. And I guess what I
would say to them is he's won a lot of
football games. I heard you talking earlier, Dan, without really
having a top half of the league quarterback. I mean,
that is so hard to do.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
Now.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
What's interesting there is how much power does he have
over the personnel over the last few years? In other words,
how much of that do you put right and directly
on Mike Tomlin. I think that him winning that super
Bowl obviously helps quite a bit the difference between the
Ravens and the Steelers. As I know, you know, Steelers
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haven't won a playoff game in a long time. However,
Steelers haven't had Lamar Jackson either, so you could actually
have a really healthy debate and discussion as to which
coach is better. I think Tomlin or Harbaugh. I think
both of them if they were ever let go, there'd
be a dozen teams that would look to hire them
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because they're considered top ten, if not top five coaches
in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
We talked about the pressure on Trevor Lawrence. At some
point he has to show are you one of the
top five seven quarterbacks? You're being paid that way? The
pressure on Tua and Mike McDaniel in Miami that this
might be a make or break year for at least
the coach. Which one has more pressure to the Dolphins
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or Trevor Lawrence with Jacksonville.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
So I think Trevor Lawrence has more pressure because this
is now his third head coach right Whereas Tua I
think has played pretty well. It's been more of the
injury issues and the concussions. But if the Dolphins have
a down year, I think they fire McDaniel and I
think Tua is still the starting quarterback with a new
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head coach. If Trevor Lawrence really struggles, then you kind
of wonder what Liam Cohen and Tony Vasselli and Gladstone
and the new regime starts to think. Now, I think
Trevor just got a deal. They maybe both just got
contracts before the twenty twenty four season, if memory serves,
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might have been twenty twenty three for one of those guys,
So they got money fairly recently. So it would be
a little bit messy to move on. But I think
out of those two players in particular, I think it's
on Lawrence and I think he gets a pass nationally
way way more than he should.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
He's Ross Tucker with the Ross Tucker Football Podcast. Also
you can hear him and see him on the NFL
in college football with CBS Sports and Westwood One. Pressure
on Justin Herbert or do we look at it's Jim
Harbaugh who has that pressure? Like who has more pressure?
If you're gonna divvy it up with the quarterback and
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the coach with the Chargers.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
I'm gonna say it's fifty to fifty. If anything, though,
I would probably lean to Herbert because again, this is
a scenario where this is a second head coach for him.
You know, Harbaugh kind of comes in the Chargers were down.
He leads him to the playoffs, and Harbaugh has a
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significant track record of success with the Niners, with Michigan,
even going back to Stanford. Right, Herbert not as much,
And in particular, there's a perception, right or wrong, that
Herbert doesn't play his best when it matters the most.
I almost felt bad for him in that playoff game
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against the Texans because I knew what was coming. And
so I like to go into a year and look
at which quarterbacks. Man, it's really it's more on them now,
and I think Herbert's one of those guys. I think
Caleb Williams. I know it's only a year two Dan,
but the Bears did something they've never done before, which
is pay top dollar for a head coach. They redid
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the whole old line, okay, interior offensive line in front
of him. The first two picks, Coleston Lovelin with the
tenth pick Luther Burden with a top ten second round pick,
are both skill guys. The Bears are doing everything possible
to try to set up Caleb Williams for success. Now
you got those quotes from the book with Wickersham, which
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will come out you know, the day after the Bears
first game. I think there's a little bit of sneaky
pressure on Williams because those quotes and that book have
kind of put even more of a spotlight on him
than there already was. And it feels like whenever you're
one of these number one pick guys, Trevor Lawrence, Caleb Williams, whoever,
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people want to blame everybody else as long as they can,
especially the fans, right like Jacksonville fans. It's almost like
franchise quarterback Stan It's like a religion and people want
to hang on to that belief as long as they can.
Jaguars fans want to believe in Trevor Lawrence until they
(26:38):
absolutely can't. Bears fans want to believe in Caleb so
so badly. But with the microscope on him this year,
if he struggles, I think that that could be interesting
as well.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
I'm also wondering about you know, the Niners were on
the clock with a lot of pressure the last couple
of years. You know, they do make it to a
super Bowl, you make it to you know, Conference, But
I don't know if we're applying the pressure that was
on them before. It's weird. We kind of moved on.
Now it's the Lions that it feels like there's more
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pressure on Detroit than it is San Francisco. Do you
see it that way?
Speaker 5 (27:17):
I understand why some people do. I don't think that
should be the case at all. I mean, the Niners
are coming off of a six and eleven season. If
they have another down year, they have some serious questions
to ask because their core isn't getting any younger, right,
I mean Trent Williams at left tackle, McCaffrey, you know,
(27:39):
we don't know if Christian will ever come back and
be the guy he was. We know they've now locked
up party, but Kittle's not getting younger, you know, And
I wonder, you know, I applaud organizations that show patients,
and even after the Niners have a down year here
or down yere there, they recognize they have a good,
(28:00):
good coach and Kyle Shanahan. Two down years in a row,
things get a little bit different, Then things get a
little bit tighter. I don't think it's gonna happen, because
I think they're gonna be very good. They have the
easiest schedule in the NFL. I think the Niners are
actually gonna bounce back in a major way. But if
they don't, if they have another losing season, things will
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get very interesting there that there is some in Detroit,
Dan but and maybe because of the fact they lost
both coordinators and there's this feeling that, man, this is
their window to get over the hump. But I have
a tough time picturing them making any major change in
Detroit after this season, barring something totally unforeseen, because you
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have to remember, it's been a long time since we
were even talking about there being pressure in Detroit, because
they're even good enough to have pressure.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
I'll leave you with this with the flag football with
the US team, this has been suggest Could we get
an NFL team that goes against the best flag football
team that's out there, and then the winner gets to
go and represent the United States in flag football. I
think it'd be musty TV if people are going to
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be shocked when they look at guys who do are
professional flag football players, just how different it is, how
different they play than the NFL. But if you did,
here's your NFL team, and I'm going to get the
best flag football team. The winner represents the United States
and the Olympics.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
I think it's an incredible idea. I think I saw
where you know, maybe my buddy Jason Kelcey was talking
about that as well. I think the guys that have
been playing flag football for years, I think they deserve
that opportunity. I would watch that game. That would maybe
be like the second flag football game I've ever watched,
because I watched a couple of years ago if you remember,
(29:59):
I can't remember what it was, but these full time
flag football guys, they played against former NFL guys like
Seneca Wallace was the quarterback for the other team, you know,
for the for the former NFL, and they beat him,
and they beat him bad. You know, the flag current
flag football guys beat the former NFL guys. That said,
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I don't know how much time the former NFL guys
put into it. If you gave actual NFL players a
month to really understand the game, the rules, because the
rules are different, they're unique, I'm pretty confident that they
would beat the flag football guys. But it still would
be very entertaining to watch. And I think it's like
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it's like a pros versus Joe's thing, right, Everybody would
kind of tune in to see how these guys would
do against the guys they're used to seeing in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Stefan Diggs didn't invite you on the yacht, did he?
Speaker 5 (30:56):
No?
Speaker 4 (30:56):
I was not.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
Invited on the yacht. I will say this, I am
open to any yacht invitations ever. I'm a big yacht guy.
I just don't know enough people that have yachts or super.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
You're you're a boat guy. You're not a yacht guy.
Speaker 5 (31:13):
I'm a pontoon boat guy with a cooler full of
beer and just floating down the river. I don't need
a yet. Okay, let me ask them. Why would you
pay hundreds of millions of dollars for a yacht when
you can just go in the river or even a
stream on like a kayak and have a cooler of
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beer there and it's the same thing. You're in water,
you're drinking beer either way. What's the difference.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
The shorties don't like a kayak, I'm just gonna be
honest with you. But a pontoon, you know, they might
be interested in a floating living room there.
Speaker 5 (31:50):
But pontoon boats are the party boats. Man. They're awesome.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
That's what I got. Yeah, that's that's what I got
all aboard a great to talk to you have a
great weekend.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
Thank you as.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Always always you too. Thanks Dan Ross Tucker, host of
the Ross Tucker Football Podcast, and you can check him
out on social media at Ross Tucker, NFL. Ryan Cranston,
great actor, got a new movie. They'll join us coming
up more phone calls as well. Let's take a break
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(33:50):
He was Malcolm in the Middle, he was Breaking Bad.
Now he's got two more movies coming out, Diehard Los
Angeles Sports Fan. He's got the Phoenicians game that opens
up May thirtieth, nationwide June second, and then Everything's going
to be great opens up June twentieth. Look at you,
miss dir actor there, how do you have common? Thanks?
(34:12):
Thanks for spending some time with us.
Speaker 8 (34:14):
Brian, Yeah, I don't have a lot of time for
these these opening remarks.
Speaker 9 (34:18):
We got to get right to the meat.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
DP.
Speaker 8 (34:20):
Okay, and by the way, I miss I miss saying
the opening stats. I always like to go seven foot four,
one hundred and fourteen pounds.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Give me what is yourt what is your height and weight?
Speaker 9 (34:32):
My height and weight?
Speaker 8 (34:33):
Well, I used to be six foot but I'm probably
five to eleven now.
Speaker 9 (34:38):
My weight is one eighty two. I'd like to get
that down.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
But do you why about your height or weight? Do
actors do that?
Speaker 9 (34:49):
Of course we do? Why why would you not?
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Okay? Now I was told this four that it's harder
to be a better actor, great actor, if you're taller.
Speaker 10 (35:08):
Any truth, there are a few actors of great height
who are actually who actually became stars, much many more
who were smaller. But it is also true that most
actors who become stars have large heads, like elephant titus heads.
Speaker 9 (35:33):
You know, they have to have prop them up over there.
And blue eyes if you have light eyes.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Really, yeah, Okay, who's got a big noggin? That's a
great actor. Well you just think about any brando grab
a big head.
Speaker 9 (35:50):
Oh, well, enormous like a coconut. Yeah, he wash and all.
I mean, all these people, even even the women.
Speaker 8 (36:00):
Women who have larger heads, have a better chance to
be a movie star.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
That's not true. That's not true.
Speaker 9 (36:09):
Well I'm trying.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
You know, David Hasselhoff had a big head, but not
a great actor.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
He was.
Speaker 9 (36:19):
He's a lovely guy. I was going to say he
was a lovely guy. But he's still alive. Nice guy.
Speaker 8 (36:25):
I did an episode of Baywatch back in the day
where I played I think my character name was like
drunken boat captain or something like that.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
But but you didn't have a speedo on, like you
weren't running in slow motion on on Baywatch.
Speaker 10 (36:44):
No.
Speaker 8 (36:45):
No, when I'm in skimpy underwear, it's it's full on
motion everything you want to see everything, apparently.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
But did Walter White have to wear tidy whities?
Speaker 4 (36:57):
No?
Speaker 8 (36:58):
You know, it was interesting because after seven years of
Malcolm in the Middle, where Hal wore tidy whities because
I thought it was appropriate because he was just a
big boy, so he never really grew up, and for
some reason, Vince Gilligan wrote that Walter White wore tidy whities.
And I went to the wardrobe call and I said, well,
(37:20):
I just did seven years. So I tried on boxers
and I tried on law and it's like, you know what,
there's some reason that he did this, and I'm just
going to go with it. And that image of him
in the desert, that first poster of the gun and
his tidy whities is so pathetic that I thought, oh,
(37:42):
that's I think that's the image he wanted.
Speaker 4 (37:43):
To go for.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
But how often do you question when you have a
director or there's something on the page where you offer
feedback or you're going to stand up for what you
think might be right.
Speaker 8 (37:57):
All the time, all the time, you're constantly making adjustments.
Speaker 9 (38:02):
I just did a couple episodes of the show of.
Speaker 8 (38:05):
The Studio where my character at the end shows up
in leopard, very skinny bikini briefs which I chose, and
stockings with garter clips and a girdle, and where he
wears a Dicky.
Speaker 9 (38:22):
Is the most ridiculous looking guy in the world.
Speaker 8 (38:25):
And I wanted all of those things, and so we
just adjusted it to those and I surprised seth Rogen
when I walked out of the room and he saw
me for the first time on camera.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
It's a great character because it came out of nowhere,
you know, first episode, and I'm like, oh my god.
It's like, you know, this combination of you're gonna try
to bring in every studio head of all the things
that are negative about them or over the top about them,
and you just kind of combined it with one character,
and it was like, all right, yeah, that's Hollywood right there.
Speaker 9 (39:01):
It is kind of patterned.
Speaker 8 (39:02):
I patterned him after Robert Evans, famous studio head of
the Paramount in the seventies, did great movies, but he
was always super tan, bleached his teeth, he always wore
very masculine clothes.
Speaker 9 (39:18):
He was that kind of guy. His shirt was unbuttoned.
Speaker 8 (39:20):
To his navel, you know. And it was, Hey, maybe
you know that, dude, So that's more fun to play
a guy like that.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
I got the picture here from Baywatch. PAULI just sent
it to me. Wow, okay, those are short shorts she
got on.
Speaker 9 (39:37):
By the way, those were the times. Don't tell me
you didn't have short shorts in that.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
I did in this idea.
Speaker 9 (39:44):
Everybody did remember the NBA back in the day.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
Yeah, I you know, growing up, I had short shorts
and John Stockton I think was like the last holdout,
Like you know, he was the last guy to wear
short shorts too. Holly have on this episode with with
Brian on Babas.
Speaker 11 (40:03):
That fine episode of Baywatch November eighty nine, Brian Cranston
played Captain Tom Logan and he was wearing like op
shorts and like those croaky glasses, and his hair was
completely down the middle and feathered.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
I could looks good. Were you at that time?
Speaker 9 (40:20):
Uh?
Speaker 8 (40:21):
Yeah, yeah, I've been Robin and I have been married
for thirty six years now.
Speaker 9 (40:25):
Yeah, yeah, okay eighty nine.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Yeah, but you're there on Baywatch.
Speaker 9 (40:29):
I mean, oh yeah, those they're out there.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
Did anybody notice Captain Tom Logan of you know the
women they did you catch anybody's eye there?
Speaker 9 (40:46):
You know, I don't know. I don't know whose eye
I caught. Oh my god?
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Were you born in Hollywood?
Speaker 8 (40:54):
I was born in the city of Hollywood, Yes, right
in Hollywood and raised in Los Angeles in the San
Fernando Valley.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
And famous classmates.
Speaker 8 (41:07):
No, I didn't have any famous classmates. Uh in the area.
Speaker 5 (41:13):
I think.
Speaker 8 (41:14):
Well, Kevin Spacey went to the same high school a
couple of years after me, but then transferred out to
go to a better theater school. But outside of that,
they're really no, no, no famous, no one famous.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
Tougher to get Nick's tickets courtside or Laker tickets court.
Speaker 9 (41:36):
Side, Laker tickets courtside.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
Tougher, tougher. Yeah, it's just process.
Speaker 9 (41:43):
It's just jam.
Speaker 4 (41:45):
Well.
Speaker 8 (41:45):
First, there is a way I can give advice to
all the listeners and viewers about how to get courtside
seats first. Become a television star or a movie star.
Do that first, then you'll have a lot better chance
of getting court side seats. But I did get court
(42:05):
side seats last year to mix pacers, had a great time,
had a great time watching it, and they're.
Speaker 9 (42:14):
Back at it again.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
I know. But you know your sitcom famous with Malcolm
in the Middle and then breaking back, like you know,
I'm going to guess breaking bad you got it was
easier to get the tickets than with Malcolm in the Middle.
Speaker 8 (42:31):
Yeah, it gave me a higher profile absolutely, Okay, So yeah,
that's what I get mostly recognized for. I would say
I'd say like seven out of ten people who approached
for you, Okay, there.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
I think I just broke something. My mic collapsed here,
and that's how.
Speaker 8 (42:54):
About seven out of ten people recognize me as Walter White.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
Yeah, so I want to talk about the Phoenician Scheme. Yeah,
because Wes Anderson does things differently than anybody else. How
would you describe what he does as a filmmaker.
Speaker 9 (43:15):
Well, he is the truest sense of the word auteur.
Speaker 8 (43:20):
There is no way that anyone can say, oh, I
think I know what Wes is thinking on this.
Speaker 9 (43:27):
I think I know where he's going.
Speaker 5 (43:28):
To go with this.
Speaker 9 (43:29):
You just don't know at all.
Speaker 8 (43:34):
It is a unique journey when you do a Wes
Anderson movie because it's always clever, it's always surprising, and
it's just it's so much fun. But the thing about
from an actor's point of view, doing the Phoenician Scheme
or Asteroid City before that, or it's the experience of
(43:56):
being with him and all the actors at the same
time at the dinner every night after you work, and
that kind of camaraderie was so much fun. In fact,
Tom Hanks calls it actor camp. It's a good hang
and we and all the actors are there. We're having
wine and cocktails and food, and we're talking about things
(44:19):
that were worried about or families and things like that
without worrying about prying eyes or ears around us, and
we can just be open and it's a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
So Tom Hanks, I believe plays your brother. You got
Michael Sarah in there, Scarlett Johansson, Benicio del Toro, Yeah, yeah, pretty.
Speaker 8 (44:41):
Good, Benedict Cumberbatch, Rez Ahmed. I mean it's a big,
big cast. And Tom and I are playing brothers.
Speaker 9 (44:49):
Well we think we're brothers. It was never actually established,
but they're they're so so alike.
Speaker 8 (44:55):
Now there's a basketball sequence in the movie that Tom
and I are in involved in. And when we got
to the set where where asked, okay, who who can
do this?
Speaker 9 (45:07):
And who could do that?
Speaker 8 (45:07):
And so Tom, Tom's going, I can't really dribble very well,
I'll go I'll dribble and I said, look, I got
problems with my shoulders.
Speaker 9 (45:15):
I got arts right.
Speaker 8 (45:16):
And it's like, if you went to the assisted living center,
they get two basketball players.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
People sent me that clip of you got of you
shooting basketball, wondering if you were trying to model your
shot after me for some reason, And I said, well
if he, if he was trying, he didn't do a
very good job because.
Speaker 9 (45:39):
He because I made them dripping.
Speaker 2 (45:41):
No, it wasn't dripping with athleticism. I'm just going to say,
you know, as a basketball player, you're a great actor.
Speaker 8 (45:49):
Uh yeah, No, I wasn't modeling myself after you.
Speaker 9 (45:53):
You're You're They broke the mold.
Speaker 2 (45:56):
Dan Patrick, The Phoenician ski that comes out May thirtieth,
and then nationwide June second, And Everything's going to be
Great that comes out June twentieth. Yeah, did you shoot
these around the same time?
Speaker 8 (46:13):
No Venetian scheme we shot last year. Everything's going to
be Great we shot before it. But it's it's like
jockeying for position and who's going to and what's the
right time to come out with a movie, and you
know it's those decisions are made by someone else. But
Everything's going to be Great is also a really it's
(46:33):
a beautiful film with Alison, Janny and myself, and it
reminded me of Little Miss Sunshine from years ago. It's
funny and sweet and sad and engaging.
Speaker 2 (46:46):
Yeah, anyway, little Miss sunshine, that final dance scene.
Speaker 9 (46:53):
Yeah, fun stuff.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
Brings down the house, yes, Alan Arca, I mean there's
so many great performance is in there.
Speaker 5 (47:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
It's one of those little sneaky surprise movies where you're like, damn,
I don't you know. Everybody when you watch movies like,
I don't know it's going to be nominated. Everything's going
to be nominated. Instead of just watching movies, I think
we're always like, well, what's going to do at the
box office? Is anybody gonna go see this in the
movie theaters. It's kind of like the pressure. I don't
know how different it is now than let's say, you know,
(47:23):
fifteen years ago.
Speaker 4 (47:24):
It's a lot different.
Speaker 8 (47:26):
When you and I were kids, every show, every morning show,
every news show had a movie and television reviewer specifically
to relate to the audience what they felt was good
of high quality. They fired all of those people, and
so now the newsreaders just read off what made the
(47:48):
most money last weekend at the box office as if
that's the indication of quality, and so it's it's kind
of sad.
Speaker 9 (47:55):
So you really need the word of mouth to be
able to say don't miss this movie or that movie.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
Paulie told me that there might be Uh, we're bringing
back Malcolm in the Middle, is there a.
Speaker 9 (48:07):
Yeah, we did it. We shot it already.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
Oh you shot it. Oh we did.
Speaker 9 (48:13):
We did four episodes for Disney and we just finished it.
Speaker 8 (48:19):
So that'll be out probably either later this year or
early next year.
Speaker 9 (48:24):
And man, I got to tell you, it was so
much fun. All the all the kids came back. And
you know.
Speaker 8 (48:30):
It's funny because the boys for Malcolm in the Middle
are all around the same age that I was when
we first started the show twenty five years ago. Wow,
they have kids of their own. It's so great to
see and and the and the adults that they've become.
Speaker 9 (48:48):
It's really fantastic.
Speaker 2 (48:51):
When you do the race walking scene, do you do
you still have that outfit? Because I'd love to put
it in a mandicap.
Speaker 9 (48:58):
Oh would you? It would have to be on it,
It would have to be on a mannequin.
Speaker 2 (49:03):
Yes, yes, I'd get a mannequin.
Speaker 8 (49:05):
Well, let me see if I can get it for you,
because i'd love to see it on your show.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
Well, why don't you drop everything that you're doing and
like do something for me, like right now?
Speaker 9 (49:17):
Like that was that was implied, of course I'm gonna
drop everything. Yes, absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 2 (49:25):
I don't like nothing else. No, don't read any scripts
or anything. It's like, nope, I can't. I'm sending you
an outfit from Malcolm in the Middle to Dan Patrick.
Speaker 9 (49:34):
I'm wondering if they still have it.
Speaker 8 (49:37):
I don't know, but man, that was a funny, funny thing,
and I was, you know, I was real trim then.
Speaker 9 (49:44):
I was like one seventy two or three something.
Speaker 2 (49:48):
Well, I'm not gonna wear it, and I'm gonna put
it on the mannequin. But I think you.
Speaker 9 (49:52):
Should wear it. I think you should should put it off.
Speaker 2 (49:56):
Will Ferrell brought the testicles from step Brothers that he rubbed.
He brought him to Ireland and uh, we were doing
our show over there, and he brought the testicles that
he rubbed on h William c Riley's drum set. Yeah. Yeah, okay,
I'm just saying.
Speaker 9 (50:14):
I also, I also brought you a treat.
Speaker 7 (50:17):
You did you brought me?
Speaker 2 (50:19):
Yeah? That was a fake penis thing that you had
for the covers.
Speaker 8 (50:24):
Yes, exactly, an erection toy.
Speaker 9 (50:32):
Where is that? I don't see that anywhere on the set.
Speaker 2 (50:34):
It's it's it's it's in here, yes, Paul. Oh, it's
prominently displayed.
Speaker 11 (50:38):
People always ask what it is.
Speaker 2 (50:40):
It's on the other side. It's I'm up in Maine.
So this is in the the main or the regular No,
it's all the way on the other side by the
account we're getting it. Yeah, you'll be able to just
see it. Hold on, well, I got my cameraman walking
over there. But oh yeah, they're there there it is.
(51:03):
It's it's right by my l a charger helmet. And uh,
I've got your whatever that thing is that you gave me.
Speaker 9 (51:10):
But I've talk about it getting a charge. Oh yeah.
That was from a movie.
Speaker 8 (51:18):
Called uh what was that called?
Speaker 4 (51:21):
Jeez?
Speaker 9 (51:23):
Uh?
Speaker 8 (51:26):
That was called The Upside? The Upside with kevil Heart
and and and uh.
Speaker 2 (51:32):
Nicole, your and your upside right there. It's like, hello, well,
good luck with everything. Thanks thanks for joining us as always.
Speaker 9 (51:46):
Well, thank you, it's always good to see you.
Speaker 8 (51:49):
And uh, whenever you get out to l A or
down to New York, give a holler.
Speaker 9 (51:55):
I'd love to have you buy me lunch.
Speaker 2 (51:57):
Why don't you give me a holler when you're.
Speaker 5 (51:59):
In New York.
Speaker 9 (52:01):
Well you're not in New York.
Speaker 5 (52:03):
I know.
Speaker 2 (52:03):
But I can get to New York.
Speaker 9 (52:05):
Okay, I will. I will give you a holler, as
they said in the.
Speaker 2 (52:10):
Old day, and I'll buy you dinner. Lovely, lovely, all right,
all right. He's Brian Cranston, The Phoenicians Scheme, Wes Anderson,
and if you're a fan of those movies, then you
know what you're getting. It opens nationwide June second. Everything's
going to be Great. That opens on June twentieth,
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Dan Patrick
Patrick "Seton" O'Connor
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