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Hall of Fame pitcher John Smoltz breaks down why he believes postseason pressure doesn't compare to the mental monster that golf can be and shares what it's like being on the mound when you know you don't have your best stuff. Big Cat & PFT Commenter discuss their journey to becoming podcasting pioneers and share news of a new book they plan on writing. Broadcasting legend Joe Buck discusses working through hate coming from his audience and shares memories of his father's legendary life and career. And Los Angeles Rams WR breaks down what it was like to be a Green Bay hero and shares his first impressions of LA since becoming a Ram. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
John Smoltze stopped by yesterday. We had a chance to
talk to him. He of course is the lead analyst
for Fox Baseball. He's a Hall of Famer as well,
And I ask him, what is tougher to master baseball
or golf?

Speaker 3 (00:17):
Golf?

Speaker 4 (00:18):
Yeah, it's just there's too many elements that you know,
no teammates to bail you out right, and you got
to be fundamentally sound and mentally strong because there's always
a weakness in some part of your game, and the
golf course will find it even if you try to
stay away from it. So I've never been nervous literally
in a baseball game other than the first time I

(00:38):
threw a pitch when I got signed. And in golf,
I can play practice rounds with anybody. I'll play anybody
because there's not the same pressure when you get in
a tournament. It's different.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
But you've played with Tiger before, Yeah, no pressure, No,
you just know if you miss the green, you lose.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
I mean.

Speaker 4 (00:58):
And plus I said something that that the same thing
I said to Maddox in their sports I said, Greg,
how hard is it to pitch when it's two on
every hitter, like seriously, but he got o two on
every hitter. That's what made him so special. And I
told Tiger, I said, how hard is to play golf
when you know what club to hit every time? He said,
you know, his ability to be creative and just pure

(01:20):
shots after. I mean, that's obviously why he's the greatest
to ever play.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
But also the ball isn't moving right, it's right there
and it's it almost paralyzes people, and it's not moving well.

Speaker 4 (01:32):
Professional golf ruins. All casual golfers ruins because they see
the professional golfers stare at a two foot putt for
about a minute and a half, they go through their routine.
They're very I mean, they're playing for tons of money,
they're playing on incredible conditions. And then you watch the
average golfer just try to do the same thing, and
it does parallel. The longer you stay over the ball,

(01:53):
the worse it gets unless you're a professional. And so
there is truth to the ball's not moving. And then
you think about, you know, if you have any negative thoughts,
you're done. And then if you have anybody telling you
don't do this, you're done. Because the brain only remembers
don't hit it right, so you hit it right. And
at least in baseball and on the mound, I controlled

(02:14):
the tempo, I controlled the action, and I could take
out certain aggression if I wanted to on the mount,
where you can't do it on golf, the matter you get,
the more intense, the more adrenaline. It's bad for golf,
it can be good for other sports.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
We talked about this a couple of weeks ago when
oh Tony was coming back, and we thought, could you
just have him for one inning and make him a
closer as opposed to trying to move him along so
he can get the three innings and then four innings
and five innings and then and I don't know if
you run the risk more of Tommy John as a
starter than you do you know, a closer, but you

(02:50):
were both well.

Speaker 4 (02:51):
I can tell you this. Everyone thought it was going
to be easier on my elbow when I went to
the bullpen, and it was worse because you're up and
you're getting heat hot high all the time, and you
don't always get in. I had one hundred and twenty
five stop keeping track one hundred and twenty five times
I was up in a season. I got into seventy
eight games, So imagine all those other times that you

(03:13):
don't get in because the score doesn't work. They score
a runner either way, So it's got to be controlled.
The problem with Otani is he could come up in
the bottom of the eighth, so when does he warm up?
So the ninth inning doesn't work as well as he
and you could make it that way where he could
control the ninth inning. And let's say it's his day
to pitch and you're up by six.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
So the closers roles, why are you adding logic to this.
We're trying to get We're trying to go viral here.
That scold says, I'll tell you that you should be
a closer.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
I'll tell you this. There is a greater possibility that
could happen in the postseason than a regular season. So
I think there's things that can be worked out. He's
such a freaking nature that I probably wouldn't take him
long to get ready. He's so athletic. I did the
last game. Everything about him looked great on the mound,
And I know I take grief no matter what I say,

(04:05):
because there's people on the other side right. So that's
why I don't have any social media. But I gave
him the ultimate compliment I could give somebody, and they
believe me. They got on me for this because they
didn't understand what I was saying. I said, it's hypothetical,
it'll never happen. If he never hits for one year
and just pitches, he'll be the best pitcher in baseball period,

(04:26):
hands down. It's not even a debate. He's trying to
navigate one of the greatest hitters of all time and
trying to pitch. He's got so many things and so
many balls in the air that he's trying to juggle.
If all he did was concentrate on pitching, what my
eyes see and what he's able to do, hands down, now,
Jacob de gram was one of the best ever when
he was healthy and now that he's come back and

(04:48):
he had the part time hit like when he was
in the National League, But all he had to do
was think about pitching. And it's a lot it's a
tough job, but all you have to do is think
about pitching. It's a lot easier than if you have
to think about getting you batting practice, scouting reports, my
back's a little tweak, I following off my calf, you know,
all those things that that never go into the play
of a picture. And so I don't know if people

(05:10):
thought I was slight number. If I don't know, it
doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
You you got off social media.

Speaker 4 (05:16):
I've never been on it. I'm not.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
And there's a reason. I mean, is your wife on
or your kids? Now?

Speaker 4 (05:22):
My kids begged me forever, and now that they see
some of these things, they see they go, Dad, you
were smart media? Because how does it not affect you?
Because I don't know. Somebody will tell me, but it's fine.
You know, they'll tell me like, hey, you're rooting for
the Dodgers. Hey you're rooting for the Yankees, or hey
you hate the Yankees. Because I would meet those people
like I would find a place and meet them and

(05:43):
want to talk. See if they could say that to
my face, because that's the kind of person I am.
You would Yeah, if I had social media, I would
want to meet them somewhere that would never work.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
It's good.

Speaker 4 (05:53):
Yeah, So what I don't know, I don't care, And
you know, I like people not knowing where I'm at.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
You should talk to you, o Buck.

Speaker 4 (06:01):
I have and he he and it's look that that industry.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
I get it.

Speaker 4 (06:07):
I've probably lost a whole great opportunities in things that
could come about if I had social media, But I'm
fine with it.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
Has Aaron Judge graduated into and I don't know the expression,
but Bonzian.

Speaker 4 (06:20):
Yes, yeah, he's got called up to another league.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
That's how he's in with Barry Bonds, though he is
is Otani in there, absolutely anybody else in there.

Speaker 4 (06:29):
I think Soto has the impact on a club that
Bonds would have on a club. He Soto's not gonna
put up the numbers that Bonds did. But when I
when you talk about impact him standing in a lineup
and never swinging making that club better, that's the Bonds effect, Okay,
because the guys before him are going to benefit because
you don't want them on base and you don't want
to face Barry Bonds with men on. And I think

(06:51):
that's the same thing. What Judge has done is closed
windows of pitchers, getting him out like windows of opportunities,
swung a little bit too much, expanded his own that's gone.
You still cant him out. He's human, but but what
he's done is going to the next level now and
has struck fear in every picture, and they no longer
can approach him the same way. Soto's the same way.
He's not gonna chase and Otani can be in so

(07:12):
many different ways.

Speaker 5 (07:13):
You know.

Speaker 4 (07:15):
When he's a full time pitcher and a hitter, maybe
his legs aren't as big of a game like we
saw last year's Salem fifty bases. But it's it's it's
interesting to watch the progression now fair or not, Judge
is going to only be judged in the postseason.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
Had I got a couple of things too for him.
If you're casting actors to play you in the the
John Smoltz movie, now I've got some ideas.

Speaker 4 (07:42):
You throw some at me.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
Okay, I've got Jason Statham, I'm not sure a big
action hero. Okay, you'd like him. John Malkovich, that's a
good one. Bruce Willis getting closer. JK. Simmons, he was
in Whiplash. I'm leaning towards Okay, so Bruce Willis, and
then you could play yourself.

Speaker 4 (08:04):
I do have some acting roles. I have been in
a couple of movies.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
What were you in?

Speaker 4 (08:09):
I was in The Change Up? But I got cut.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
So I didn't think that you weren't in it.

Speaker 4 (08:14):
I still get paid, but but you weren't getting twenty
bucks every two weeks. What else were you I was in? Oh,
now I'm drawing a blank, great movie about Oh no,
I'm embarrassing baseball with the bad lakes. Great story. Oh
my gosh, you had the two braces. He waited to
triple a. It's just it's awesome movie. I'm an old

(08:39):
time announcer. I've got the hat on. Man, this is
embarrassing because I did it and I kind of killed it.
I mean, well, yeah, yeah, I watched it, and I
was pleased with my with my role.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
Let's see, how about this if I said, you can
start a guy, bench a guy, or cut a guy.
Albert Poohols start benure, cut, Alex Rodriguez start bencher, cut,
or Joe Mauer start bench or cut? Wow, so who's starting?

Speaker 4 (09:06):
You're good at this game?

Speaker 2 (09:10):
I'm starting Albert Poohol's okay benching.

Speaker 4 (09:14):
I am going to bench Joe Mauer and cut a
rod only because I already have a right hand hitter
starting okay, so I wouldn't need another right hand or
so I got lefty on the bench.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
Okay, all right, yes, Paul.

Speaker 4 (09:31):
The movie was called The Hill, co starring John Smoltz.
The Hill. Absolutely, thank you for saving me a very
embarrassive Yeah, you get to say thank you. It was
The Hill. Great story, Dennis Quade, And.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
Just to say that I looked a little like Dennis Quaid,
I can see that, Yeah, has I can see that. Yeah,
I'm very distinguished. My final question to you, and it
didn't happen very often for you. When you go to
the mound and you know you don't have anything, what
what is that feeling like really trying to pretend or
fool Yeah, and that's what I.

Speaker 4 (10:05):
Had to learn. I was awful at it. I was
very I'm a guy that wears his emotions passion bucket.
You know, we've talked about that. I've had an empty
passion bucket before I've emptied it. But I had to
learn from Glad and how to fake it. And I
would have a bullpen session. Sometimes it'd be phenomenal. I'd
go out and I'm like what happened, and it'd be
the opposite. So I learned that the bullpen session was

(10:25):
just a warm up and to get in the game,
you had to be. You had to be. When a
pitcher stands on a mound, the hitters at the plate,
someone has the edge and they know it. The key
is not to convey to the other person who has
the edge, and that is a huge key, and some
young players do it really easily. Nineteen ninety six, last
start World Series against Andy Pettitt, I was exhausted closing

(10:47):
in on three hundred innings and I had nothing, zero,
and I kept coming in the innings. I always used
to Glad was my guy to kind of like Glad,
I got nothing and he goes trick them. Come into
second inning. I said, I can't throw my slider. I
got nothing. Trick them. He said that eight times and
I lost one. Nothing, But I got into through eight
innings when there was no reason based on the way

(11:09):
I felt. So I had to learn it. And I
was bad early and pretty good.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
Like but that's pitching as opposed to throw it.

Speaker 4 (11:16):
Yeah, and that's that's what we've talked about before. And
these guys are not going to be given that opportunity anymore.
They don't have it. They're out and then this is
and they're fine with it. Management's fine with it. But
anybody who loses velocity or gets hurt doesn't have the
opportunity to continue to pitch with a new toolbox, like
the cc Sabathias when they lose their stuff, that those
guys are gone, Like he was a ninety six, ninety
seven on our stud learned how to pitch at ninety

(11:38):
kurse show be the last one we'll ever see. And
that saddens me for a sport that I played and
love and and I hope we turn that around. I
hope we find a way to not be so addicted
to the you know, the radar gun in velocity.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
Nobody would teach Clayton Kershawn's motion, Nope.

Speaker 4 (11:53):
And that's what makes it unique and great. And I
think that's gone too. Like you see the robotics side step,
like everyone's picking up pitching on of the shit.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
It's like golfer is trying to be Tiger. It's all
cookie cutter.

Speaker 4 (12:03):
Yeah, but at least golf Jim Furick always everyone's got
a repeatable, different swing. And when you take the wind
up out of the rotation because it's simpler to pitch
out of the stretch, you're losing something of which is
a luxury they let you pitch out of the wind up.
I don't understand why guys can't learn how to pitch
out of the wind up and use that as a

(12:25):
as a weapon instead of just being in the stretch
and seeing it like that.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
John Smoltz, who guarantees that he will win this tournament.

Speaker 4 (12:34):
I did. I we don't have a time stamp on that,
but I guaranteed I will be the oldest winner to
ever win this tournament.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
You were, you're very cocky yesterday.

Speaker 4 (12:45):
I was. I was.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
I didn't even say a lo to you, and you said,
if this putter's work and I'm winning this thing right?

Speaker 4 (12:53):
Absolutely? Absolutely, Yeah, I'm in I'm in a good place,
but I've been in a good place before, and this
tournament does some funky things to you. But I will
be the oldest player to ever win this tournament. Let's
get it done sooner than later. Thank you, John, My pleasure.

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Speaker 2 (14:03):
We ran into a big cat and pft. They are
old friends of the show. We go back about ten
years ago I think we were. We were at the
All Star Game in DC and they they wanted to
come by and watch our show just to see how
to do this and now look at them, pardon my take.

(14:23):
Is one of the biggest podcasts sports podcasts that we
have and Barstools Sports. I started out by asking the
guys how they met online.

Speaker 7 (14:35):
Yeah, yeah, hinge very much, Rayah. Actually no, we.

Speaker 5 (14:43):
It was we would get accused of stealing each other's
jokes and we followed each other and like, oh, he
already said that. He already said that, And then I
DM PFT. I was like, hey, like, I think you're
very funny. You want to go on a date, you
want to get you want to make this official?

Speaker 7 (14:57):
It was a bro date.

Speaker 8 (14:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (14:58):
I remember we went out for beers and Chicago and
then I was pulling through Chicago about a year later
and Big Kat was like, come stop by the birds Nest,
which is the.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
Best win place in Chicago.

Speaker 9 (15:08):
Yeah, So we stopped by there and had some beers
and he kind of threw it out there. He's like,
we might be getting some money at barsol sports to
investment podcasts, like to do a podcast.

Speaker 7 (15:16):
I was like, yeah, I'm in Yeah, that was the thing.

Speaker 8 (15:19):
It was.

Speaker 5 (15:19):
I always thought PFT would be perfect at barstool and
working together.

Speaker 7 (15:23):
I always wanted to work with him.

Speaker 5 (15:25):
But we're at a point in Barstool where it was
eight people and we were kind of not living paycheck
to paycheck, but we were still young, very small, and
then we got bought by a guy named Peter Turnan,
the Churning Company, and part of them buying us was
to give us some cash move to New York, hire
some people I think PFT was maybe the second or

(15:46):
third hire when that happened. Yeah, and then it was
just kind of all off from there.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
What was the moment? Was there an interview or a
moment where you go things just changed.

Speaker 7 (15:55):
Maybe Joe Buck.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
Joe Buck.

Speaker 9 (15:58):
The first time we had him on, Joe Buck was big,
He had no idea who the hell we were, and
we were very weird in that interview, but he seemed
to like us, and uh, then you know, things would,
people would aggregate you after the interviews. So we saw, like,
you know, all the headlines come out about Joe Buck,
Joe Buck, and I think Joe saw a little bit
of a shift online at that point where everybody hated
Joe Buck before because no matter what team you root for,

(16:20):
at some point, Joe.

Speaker 7 (16:21):
Has said something bad about your team. So you think
that you.

Speaker 9 (16:25):
Right, yes, exactly, Yeah, so he's actually he's commented accurately
about the state of your team at some point, and
then you take that as a as a personal site,
which I still do sometimes. Joe definitely, I think he
still does hate the Commanders, but uh, he saw he
started to see a little bit of a shift, like
he got more love online people are like, I used
to hate Joe Buck, but now I think he might

(16:46):
be likable.

Speaker 4 (16:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (16:47):
Our best compliment that we get is when we have
a guest on and they're like, I hated that guy,
but you guys made him fun, which is kind of
a backhanded compliment to the person. Uh, but yeah, it's that.
And I think when ESPN suit us right out of
the gate, because we did we did kind of take
their logo and everything, and but they they fell for it,
and they gave us a headline.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
But you wanted that. You knew what was going to happen.

Speaker 5 (17:09):
We didn't think they'd sue us, but we we obviously
knew what we were doing in terms of the name
and making poking fun at sports media. And then yeah,
them them sending us to cease and desist in us
making like I think they expected us to play by
the rules of you get a cease and desist and
then you know, you stop the stuff, you don't talk
about it, whereas we just instantly made it. I think

(17:31):
it was an emergency podcast, and we had Dave his
dad as a lawyer. We hired him as our lawyer,
and we made a whole mockery of it. And it
just kind of off from there.

Speaker 9 (17:40):
I wrote a seasoned desist letter to ESPN demanding that
they cease and desist sending us seas and desist.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
Right.

Speaker 9 (17:46):
I never thought about that, but they fell for they
got all the high priced lawyers of the world and
they didn't have the brain of the seventh grader like
I did.

Speaker 7 (17:52):
So it was like, okay, all right, balls in your court,
chess move We're.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
You're talking to a big cat. Pft, barstool sports, pardon
my take the barstool? Van toa Did I bring that
to a close?

Speaker 5 (18:02):
Yeah, you killed you if we had been able to
let you on fire. I think that show exists today.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
Yeah. So, because Van Pelt was the first guy.

Speaker 9 (18:09):
Everyone loved it. The bosses at ESPN loved it. And
then Dan Thattrick comes on. That's something about these guys.

Speaker 7 (18:14):
I don't really care.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
Are you you got canceled?

Speaker 4 (18:16):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (18:17):
Yes?

Speaker 7 (18:17):
Oh my god?

Speaker 4 (18:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (18:20):
Have you ever you know, have you ever had a
big cancelation of plans? I had one last week where
I canceled a vacation, which sounds like it might be bad,
but the second I canceled it, I felt.

Speaker 7 (18:29):
Great, I'm going to just stay at home. Yeah, enjoy
my time.

Speaker 9 (18:32):
But when you get a TV show canceled, it's like
that times one hundred. It's like you don't have to
do all that work anymore.

Speaker 7 (18:38):
Yeah, it would have It would have been bad. It
wouldn't have been sustainable. It was.

Speaker 5 (18:41):
It was a really good lesson in that if you
know a lot of people will be like, oh yeah,
if you get to know, keep keep asking, keep asking.
We the process of getting the show on ESPN was
very like it was like nine months, a ton of lawyers,
a ton of back and forth where they didn't really
they weren't bought in, but there was a couple of
people who had our back and wanted us to try it.

(19:03):
But we should have realized at that moment, like they're
not going to defend us when when when things.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
Go awry, I'm shocked that they got into business. That's
where somebody goes, man, I hear these guys are popular,
let's get in business, but not realizing what made you.

Speaker 7 (19:18):
Popular, right, And the funny thing is now ESPN.

Speaker 5 (19:21):
I mean Pat McFee is a friend of ours who's
like so entertaining and so talented. I think ESPN's changed
where that was if it were today, they probably had
a lot more of an appetite.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
Oh yeah, absolutely, So you guys have a big announcement. Yes,
the source is close to me. Tell me, by the way,
I worried about the show when your third guest ever
was PAULI.

Speaker 10 (19:43):
Yes, that's true, that's true, that big third episode.

Speaker 7 (19:48):
Do you remember what we talked about a man?

Speaker 10 (19:51):
I remember getting a call during dinner and big cack us,
what are you doing right now?

Speaker 8 (19:55):
Nothing?

Speaker 7 (19:56):
Not nothing, You're about to join the show.

Speaker 3 (19:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (19:58):
We Some of the early inner reviews were tough, where
it was just we were just digging for all of
our friends.

Speaker 7 (20:04):
I think that was exhausting all of our friends.

Speaker 5 (20:06):
I think it went Chris Long, bro MONTI Jones, Chris Long,
and then Paul and I was like, all right, we
don't have any more friends.

Speaker 9 (20:12):
I think we went we went Martin Scrilly, the farmer
broke and then we're like, who else?

Speaker 7 (20:16):
I guess we could yeah company, Yeah, but appreciate it
because we would have had a guest.

Speaker 4 (20:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
Yeah, Okay. So the big announcement is Yes.

Speaker 5 (20:26):
Announcement, massive announcement, exclusive to Dan Patrick show.

Speaker 7 (20:30):
We are writing a book, The Two Dumbest guys in
the world.

Speaker 4 (20:33):
We're going to write a book.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
We fixed the title.

Speaker 7 (20:35):
Yeah, yeah, it's actually not a bad idea. The two
dumbest guys in the world wrote a book. Yeah, we've
been asked to write a thank you.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
It's a lot of work.

Speaker 5 (20:45):
By the way, just we just talked about how great
it is to cancel plans. So there's a very good
chance we don't write this book. But we've been asked
to write a book a bunch of times. We've gotten
to the meeting point talking about it, and then finally
this year we're like, you know what, we're we're about
to hit ten years. You know, we've been very successful,
very blessed. I think it's it's a cool story that

(21:06):
we've you know, a lot of partnerships don't stay that long.
So we're going to write a ten year kind of
the history of pardon my take, and a lot of
stupid stuff in there as well.

Speaker 7 (21:15):
We actually had a meeting.

Speaker 5 (21:16):
We we hired a ghostwriter, and our first question to
the ghostwriter was like, hey, you got to be ready, Like,
we're going to do a chapter where we interview you,
which I.

Speaker 9 (21:23):
Don't think you're supposed to do with ghostwriters. We're also
going to have the ghostwriter write that chapter. We have
to interview him, and then he has to interview us
and ask us how the interview went, and then we'll explain.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
To this sounds like a cease and desists sending to
tell you about the season o.

Speaker 9 (21:42):
But yeah, I mean we're if there's anything you know
about me, And because we're voracious readers, we can't.

Speaker 7 (21:47):
We can't the title from the guys who don't read.
I can't put those things down, those books.

Speaker 9 (21:52):
Yeah, there will be an audiobook for those of you
who like to listen to it.

Speaker 5 (21:56):
By the way, the reason why we're announcing it here
on your show is that you you have to write
a chapter for us.

Speaker 7 (22:01):
We're going to farm out most of this book.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
Okay, what constitutes a chapter.

Speaker 7 (22:05):
It could be as many words as you want. We
don't care. We're gonna double space the whole thing. Yeah, indense.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
Can I just put a bunch of pictures of myself?

Speaker 7 (22:16):
Absolutely, we're big readers.

Speaker 5 (22:17):
So huge, huge font We're just trying to get to
that like two fifty page number.

Speaker 7 (22:21):
So that's what we get there.

Speaker 5 (22:23):
I don't know what it's gonna end up being, but
it is gonna be real like the Ghostwriter.

Speaker 7 (22:27):
So we're gonna write a lot of the book the
ghost Writers.

Speaker 5 (22:29):
How we're gonna do it is it's gonna be year
by year, So the year history is going to be
us being interviewed by the Ghostwriter. And then in between
we'll have some of our friends. We'll write some chapters,
some stupid stuff. It's gonna be barely readable. There will
be tons of pictures.

Speaker 9 (22:43):
We were actually talking about putting like a word search
in there, like basically make the entire book out of
the back of cereal boxes. That's kind of what we're
going for. Yeah, but we're gonna have a chapter. I
think Hank's going to write a chapter for.

Speaker 7 (22:54):
Us, but he can't. You can't use autocorrect. Yeah, we're
not gonna edit. It's just gonna it's just gonna.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
Be whatever, like serial killer chapter and then just have
the you know, the font being all of what a
serial coloria?

Speaker 7 (23:09):
Yeah, yes, are cut out of magazine.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
Yea.

Speaker 7 (23:12):
I mean, my my favorite author probably Brett Farv. A
lot of pictures, a lot of pictures, mostly text.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
Keep it short, yeah, don't say Brett and pictures.

Speaker 7 (23:21):
Yeah, don't say that.

Speaker 9 (23:22):
Yeah, but no, we're we're excited to do it. I
think it's gonna be a fun, new, fun, new thing.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
And then they'll make a movie out of it.

Speaker 5 (23:28):
Yeah, probably not, but yeah sure the uh it's gonna
be fun though, because we're gonna go down memory lane,
like there's a lot of stories that we probably haven't told,
you know, getting more into depth about the whole ESPN,
barstool van talk, how close we were to possibly leaving and
all that stuff.

Speaker 7 (23:45):
So I think it's gonna be interesting, and it's something.

Speaker 5 (23:47):
That we didn't want to write a book just to
be like, hey, here's a book, but ten years does
feel somewhat monumental in this business.

Speaker 9 (23:54):
And we've got Hank going through the archives right now
of all the old pictures. He's got an extensive blackmail
file of pictures like never before seen.

Speaker 7 (24:03):
The ones that you've seen Hank put out. They can
be very bad pictures of us, but he's got tons
of them news of me, Yeah, real bad.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
So he does.

Speaker 5 (24:10):
And we had George Brett and we we did a
terrible I think if you guys remember we had Mark
Schlereth on the first time and we pet our pants,
which is very good that was a big moment.

Speaker 7 (24:20):
Big Cat peat his pants. I tried, but I was.

Speaker 4 (24:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
So then we had.

Speaker 5 (24:27):
George brett On and we're like, oh, what's he famous for?
Oh uh, pooping his pants? So we got diapers and
we put chili down. Our pants didn't really land the
same way, but anyway, we had the whole bathroom wired
with go pros and after we finished, I went to
clean up and stripped nude, not realizing the go pro

(24:47):
was on the entire time, and Hank afterwards was like,
I have all this footage, all right, Well, yeah, all this.

Speaker 9 (24:54):
Footage, so yeah, maybe we'll put yeah, Big Cat's nudes.
That'll be a big selling point. But yeah, a lot
of There will be a of pictures. But I think
we're going to take parts of it seriously too, where
people lefter some some of the story of behind the scenes,
some stories they haven't heard before.

Speaker 7 (25:07):
So it's gonna be a fun challenge.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
I think you could do the Fabio pose on the
cover with your hair flowing like that, holding Big Cat
in your arms.

Speaker 7 (25:15):
Fabio when he got hit by the.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
Right in the forehead. Yeah, yeah, you can do them. Well,
round of applause. They've done it. You know, the odds
were against him ten years. Congratulations guys, thank you.

Speaker 5 (25:28):
And also congratulations by the way, on the Sports Emmy,
we didn't win nomination.

Speaker 7 (25:33):
Sorry.

Speaker 5 (25:35):
I want you guys to win so bad because it
would have been the funniest thing.

Speaker 7 (25:39):
If you won the year after mclove and left. I
wanted that so so bad.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
It's better for our business if we don't want Yeah,
maybe it's something maybe like well, like the worst thing
to happen to the Cubs is they won the world. Yeah,
you know, that's the one way to look at her
the Cubs. But are you what year you in your
retirement tour? You're doing like a seven.

Speaker 7 (25:58):
Year most k of media.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
I gave a four year okay, okay, now it's two
and a half. Two and a half to go. Okay, yeah, okay,
two and a half to go. Yeah, don't exaggerate. You know,
do you guys want to announce your retirement here on
the show?

Speaker 7 (26:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (26:14):
How many years?

Speaker 7 (26:16):
I think I have ten to fifteen?

Speaker 2 (26:18):
That sounds about you be I gave it. I gave
four years and boom, four years.

Speaker 7 (26:23):
Okay.

Speaker 9 (26:23):
If we ever, if there's every year where we have
like the Cubs win the World Series, the Commanders win
the Super Bowl, the Caps win the Stanley Cup, and
the Bulls win the NBA Championship. I think I think people, well,
there's I was gonna say, we'll re tired at that point.

Speaker 7 (26:38):
We're saying that's never ever, ever going to happen.

Speaker 9 (26:41):
But yeah, there's a little bit of truth of that
where people love to hear us lose, and being from
DC and Chicago, Uh, there's a lot of lose, a
lot of fodder out there yet.

Speaker 7 (26:50):
But I don't really want to.

Speaker 5 (26:52):
I think we could do this for as long as
people listen, you know. I think there will be a
point where we become the old men, which will suck
in its own right. But if people are listening, we
have the best job in the world. Why would you
stop doing that?

Speaker 2 (27:06):
Got emotional there, I got sentimental. Yeah, BFT, big cat.
Congratulations on the book and thanks for joining us.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
Joe Buck We spoke to him, of course, the voice
for ESPN and ABC and when he was at Fox
he called everything he called golf, football, and baseball, And
I ask him what is the difference between calling golf,
football and baseball.

Speaker 11 (27:42):
Golf was so different than I thought going in. And
you can prepare yourself all you want, but we all
fall asleep to it on the couch when we're watching it,
when you're sitting in that chair. It's why have so
much respect for Jim, for Mike, for and for all
the guys that do it regularly, because it happened so fast,

(28:04):
because you're not watching any of it with your own
eyes like live. It's all on monitor, so you're getting
information in your ear, like, Okay, we're going to speak
on four. It's a second shot. He's made two birdies
in a row, and so you just you do like
broadcast news. Let's go to speak on four. It's a
second shot. He's made two birdies in a row. And
you know, it's a little unnerving to be relying on

(28:27):
other people's information. I rather make my own mistakes or
do my own thoughts instead of just parroting what I'm
hearing in my ear. So long winded way of saying,
baseball football way easier, way slower than you would think
compared to golf.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
But Also, how many times have you had to fake
that you didn't know what was going to happen to
the golfer who was standing over a twenty foot or
to take the sole possession.

Speaker 12 (28:51):
Well that's the thing.

Speaker 11 (28:52):
I mean, you know all the websites which you find
out when you do golf, how closed the community, And
like when Fox showed up and then I'm calling it
and it's not Dan Hicks and Johnny Miller. It's like,
oh my god, aliens have landed on my TV and
I cannot believe they're trying to do golf. Their camera
people suck. They can't find the golf ball. We were

(29:14):
Chambers Bay, it was Glary. They're the same camera people
that did it for NBC. So it wasn't that now
the guy in the chair wasn't that good.

Speaker 12 (29:22):
That's me.

Speaker 11 (29:24):
But you have to What you realize is if you're
gonna have a TV event and try and build any
drama whatsoever, you can't just do live shot, live shot,
live shot, live shot. You have to hold stuff to
make it, build a narrative as to where the thing
is going. And it takes a while to get into

(29:44):
that too. There's a you know, you I can see
on my laptop that a guy just made birdie. But
it's not on the scoreboard I'm looking at. And if
it's not on the scoreboard, I'm looking at he didn't
make birdie, yet we got to act like he's about
to make birdie. So it's a lot of convoluted stuff
that's handled better by smarter people.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
I talked to John Smoltz and he said that he's
not on social media, that he'll maybe hear from his
kids about liar.

Speaker 12 (30:12):
He's got burner accounts.

Speaker 11 (30:13):
He knows what's going on on social media.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
But do you need social media? Like, like, is it
part of your life?

Speaker 5 (30:21):
No?

Speaker 11 (30:22):
I go on there periodically if I want to find
out how awful I am. If I'm feeling good about myself,
I go on social media. And then that just brings
me back to when did this start? When did this
start where you just for me or for you? Well,
I think, you know, I'm kind of uniquely positioned by

(30:46):
being the World Series guy and the postseason baseball guy
from the advents of social media to now. Now I
haven't done it in four years, so I'm out. But
I think when you do the World Series and every
game is done by local TV announcers. I mean, you
you can watch it. You could put Cardinals in Cubs series.

(31:09):
You put boog Shambi's call of a Cubs home run
and then boog Shambi's call of a Cardinal home run,
and it's night and day. It's yay us boo them.
That's the way you're supposed to do it. He does
it for the Cubs, and I think when you show
up and now you're getting excited for both teams, the

(31:29):
fan bases are like, why is this guy excited that
the Red Sox guy just hit a home run? He sucks,
he hates my team, And so add social media into
it and it just kind of becomes a thing. I
go to therapists for it. I suck my thumb again
because of it. But yeah, I mean, you just have
to realize. And I told Joe Davis when he took

(31:50):
over for me, and he and I have had long
talks about it. You just have to be willing to
put up with that, knowing that that's just part of
the job.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
I'm talking Joe buck I don't I'm not on it,
but I always say to the Dan Antley said, if
you guys read something that keeps me honest. Great, Yeah,
but I don't need to hear ten people say you're
great and the eleventh person to say, why don't you retire?

Speaker 12 (32:13):
That's the one you remember.

Speaker 11 (32:14):
Yeah, you just scroll right through the nice ones and
you go right to the mean person.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
Well, I read fan mail from the bottom up because
if it says sincerely, chances are it probably started nice.
But if it said hate you or fu and okay,
no need to go up top and read it.

Speaker 3 (32:34):
No.

Speaker 11 (32:34):
And I'm pretty much to the point where I won't
open it if there's no return address on it, because
most of the time they want something sent back.

Speaker 12 (32:43):
Yeah, but I mean.

Speaker 11 (32:45):
I'm not sitting here complaining about it.

Speaker 12 (32:47):
I really am not.

Speaker 11 (32:48):
I've kind of put that in its own box and
I kind of laugh at it a little bit. And
to be honest with you, when you leave it, you know,
you have to retire or die for people to say
you're any good. And so I haven't died yet, but
I've retired from baseball. And then I did one Yankee
game at the beginning of the year and it's like

(33:08):
becomes viral where, oh Joe Buck's doing baseball again, Thank god?
Bo was it were how are you people for twenty
four years. So it's it's just it is what it is,
and you have to just kind of take it.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
When did we get to the point where we had
to fill all of the time with voices? When you
do play by play and then you have a color
analyst and then maybe another color analyst, and if you
go back and listen to you know, yesteryear, there was
breathing and it was almost treating you as if, Hey,
I'm talking to you and we don't need to be.

(33:42):
You know, you and your wife can sometimes sit and
not talk a lot, but at.

Speaker 11 (33:48):
Dinner on the couch, yeah, we've got seven year old twins.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
But everybody it just feels like it's wall to wall.

Speaker 12 (33:57):
Yeah, I agree, and I think it should have been.

Speaker 11 (34:00):
It should be really the reverse because and I say
this to broadcast students all the time, like, don't be
afraid to not talk. I think that little voice in
your head is telling you if I don't say something here,
the audience thinks I don't know what to say. And
it's that insecurity, and I think insecurity breeds over talking.

(34:21):
I could make the case that with the advancements that
have been made in audio. There really is no more
dead air. Dead air doesn't exist anymore. If I don't talk,
you're gonna hear you know whoever Aaron Rodgers calling signals
out at the line of scrimmage, or just good natural sound,

(34:42):
or just the sound of a crowd enjoying a game.
And that's really the beauty of baseball, kind of that
hum that happens underneath. And I always tried to do
the game like that, you know, I tried to pick
my spots. I realize I'm not doing radio. I don't
need to talk. I don't need to go. Hey, here's
a two one pitch. So and so rares back lets

(35:03):
it fly, swinging a ground ball to short. Jeter goes
in the hole, backhanded, stop, long throat bounces at the
first dugout by the first baseman, two out.

Speaker 12 (35:11):
I can just go Jeter to his right, two out.

Speaker 11 (35:15):
That's that's how I always tried to do a games,
because that's how I would want to listen to it.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
But my favorite announcer of all time is somebody that
most people don't know. It's Ray Scott because.

Speaker 12 (35:24):
My dad used to work with him.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
But he was economical, Yeah, and it was it'd be
Packers against the Bears. He would say star Dollar first down. Yeah,
And I love the cadence to it because it just
felt like he respected me as a football fan.

Speaker 12 (35:44):
Yeah, but you got to realize that we're old.

Speaker 11 (35:46):
I'm the same way, and you know that's not the
way of twenty twenty five. And that doesn't make it right,
wrong or indifferent. But I when when Pat summer All
and John Matten left and now all of a sudden,
it's me, Troy and Chris Allensworth, I took the bait
of trying to be Pat Summerle and I go back
and I listened to myself in the early two thousands

(36:08):
and I'm like, yuck, man, I hate that because I'm
doing the Montana Rice touchdown.

Speaker 12 (36:16):
And then Madden. It was beautiful because Madden.

Speaker 11 (36:18):
Was bouncing off the walls, and then Pat was the
straight man and just hit the notes and just let
you enjoy it for what it was. But I took
that bait. I never really tried to be my dad.
I did take a lot of cues from him, and
a lot of the pacing was the same, but I
fell into the trap of trying to be Pat, and

(36:39):
I realized looking back at it, there's only one path.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
You crushed me when your father was dying and you
used to go to the hospital, I believe and read
to your father. Yeah, what were you reading to your
dad when he was dying?

Speaker 11 (36:51):
Uh, you know, basically the sports page. You know, I
wasn't reading poetry. He was at time in his life
before he got sick, right before he got sick, or
he was writing a lot of it. And one of
the results of that was the poem that he read
at Bush Stadium after nine to eleven. So he was
always in this mode. At the end of his life.

(37:13):
He was a depressionary kid. He was a World War
Two vet who got shot in Germany. He was in
Paris when the war ended and saw du Gaul speak.
I mean, he lived a life and at the end
of his life, I think he knew the end was coming.
He was very retrospective. He was writing a lot of poetry,
he was watching a lot of war documentaries, and he

(37:35):
was just kind of it wasn't the sports jack Buck anymore.
It was so I would read sport, the sports page.
I would read, you know, a little excerpts out of
a book that he was reading before he went into
the hospital, but he was he was at the point
where he was incapacitated. He had a track, so he
couldn't really talk, and it was it was Shakespearean. It

(37:56):
was this guy with his great voice, great mind, his
mind was there to the end, but he couldn't speak,
and he had to mouth everything to me. And so
going there every day, I would try to find off
times because I have seven brothers and sisters, one full
six half, and everybody was coming in different shifts. But
I tried to find all the off times because I

(38:18):
just wanted it to be the two of us. And
you know, I've told the story a million times, and
I'm not going to drone on about you know, saying
my goodbyes to him the night before he died, when
I knew they were going to pull all the equipment
and all the respirator and everything out of him. But
I did a cardinal game the night that night, and
I was driving by the hospital, and you know, he

(38:40):
hadn't passed away yet, and my family had all left,
and I went and went up to see him and
said a couple of things in his ear and kissed
him goodbye, and he had passed away before I got
to the car and so I and they had pulled
the TV down by his head when when I was
doing it, it was a Cardinal's Angels game and Darrel
Kyle was going to die that same week, Mike Soshia

(39:03):
was amazing pushing a game back.

Speaker 12 (39:05):
It was just it was a crazy time.

Speaker 11 (39:08):
But he was listening to me doing the game, and
I think he was waiting for me to come say goodbye.
At least my narcissistic life thinks that. And maybe if
I'd never gone, he'd still be alive today three years later.

Speaker 4 (39:19):
But I did.

Speaker 12 (39:20):
I went.

Speaker 1 (39:22):
Med, Sure, why would you go there? Yeah, you killed
your father?

Speaker 12 (39:29):
Unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
Wow, that got sentimental and dark and unhurt.

Speaker 11 (39:34):
But he would love that. That was his sense of
humor he had. The best thing I had with my
dad was that I could make him laugh, even when
I was a little kid. So he could take me
on the road and he was a tough audience, but
I got through to him, and some of it was.

Speaker 12 (39:47):
Really dark, but he wanted me around.

Speaker 11 (39:50):
And that's what's set up the rest of my life,
by just being there with him on the road, seeing
the life just from the eyes of a broadcaster. And
getting a master's class in it. Really every night.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
Good to see you, Thanks for shure, Thank you, thanks
so much, Joe Buck.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAPP.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
He's a six time pro bowler, three time All Pro.
Now with the La Rams, we welcome in DeVante Adams,
who joined us on the program. Saw him out there.
We were trying to trying to impress him. He was
trying to pick out who was who gave the aura
of being a quarterback, and I think DeVante realized that

(40:40):
nobody is going to be ready. At least sounding wise,
Seaton sounded like Aaron Rodgers with his or No, Paulie,
did you gave the a green nineteen?

Speaker 4 (40:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (40:50):
As a lifelong Bears fan, I can't tell you how
many team many times I've watched and saw Aaron Rodgers
draws off side with the Green team.

Speaker 3 (40:58):
That your owner definitely did that quite a bit, for sure.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
But even you're not in Green Bay anymore. But is
there still animosity hatred with the Chicago Bears? Does that
follow you the rest of your life?

Speaker 3 (41:13):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (41:13):
No, Honestly, I've met so many fans. I feel like
I meet more fans in the NFC North now because
they actually come forth and speak to me, so I
let them out. Yeah, school, we can actually be friends now,
you know, I don't mind it. We still I'm in
the NFC now, but I'm not in the NFC North,
so you know, I don't hate the Bears anymore. That
was just the thing that lasts while I'm there.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
Okay, So they'll talk to you now because you're not
in the division. Yeah, if you were still with the Packers,
Bears fans wouldn't be talking.

Speaker 8 (41:39):
No, they don't introduce themselves quite as much. I think
they tend to hold back when I was with the Packers.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
Do you have a favorite story that you tell of
your time with the Packers.

Speaker 8 (41:50):
That's a tough one. I was there for eight years,
so quite a bit of stories.

Speaker 2 (41:57):
You got a Rogers story that you're gonna tell your grandkids?

Speaker 3 (42:01):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (42:01):
Yeah, I don't. I don't know if I can say that.
Tell tell one of them the good ones on the
Dan Patrick Show. I might get in some trouble.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
But but you can you can have the language maybe, Yeah,
you know, if you have to change the language a
little bit.

Speaker 8 (42:13):
Well, my I guess one of a pretty good story
I have is one of the first stories. So my
basically first game plan was the Detroit Lions game. I
played like eight players in the in the season opener
against the Seahawks we opened up the season, and you know,
I kind of got my feet wet in that game.
And then the Detroit game, I got a few more
meaningful snaps. So I get out there and one of

(42:34):
my first snaps, I'm on the right side and I'm
by myself, and we had a signal that was this,
and we had a signal that was.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
This, oh close, very close.

Speaker 8 (42:44):
So and especially when it's full speed, mid cadence, you know,
Aaron time, So I see that, and basically the timing
that that you got now when you're dealing with a
person like Aaron, and you come to learn the details
are very very important, right, So this signal is for

(43:06):
when you're by yourself, So you wouldn't get this signal
typically if you're over there with another tight end or
another you know, a slot receiver with you, and I
was outside. I wasn't playing in the slot as much
at that point. So if you get this. You're typically
for when you're alone. You get this. That's a two
man concept, right, I'm just a rookie coming in. It's
my second game plan. I'm not really ready to, you know,
process all that, especially not mid Caden twitch. I don't

(43:29):
even know if we ever even did that again after that.
I think it might have been a test and I
failed it. But I'm over there in the boundary and
green nineteen and he does that, so boom almost pooped
myself for sure. And then I say, okay, well I'm
gonna run a slant. I think this is the slant.
So I come off the ball and I run full speed. Now,
the problem with that was that the other route is

(43:50):
a one step like stop right where you are, so
you're not moving anywhere, and the ball's coming out immediately.
So as soon as I drive off the ball, take
that that and stick for the slant. The boss flying
to the where I basically was standing or not before
I even moved, and then I looking at him. I
looked like flip my eyes to him, and then I
see the boss, So I flipped it and I'm like

(44:11):
looking back and forth and I'm like and he's flying
at me. Just just this. When you see that finger
come out and he starts skipping, you know, you.

Speaker 2 (44:20):
Know it's problems.

Speaker 8 (44:21):
So so the I see him skipping over toward me,
and I've seen it in practice, but I wasn't. It's
less embarrassing in practice because you run all your teammates
and we you know, we were all getting it. He
and he softened up over time, so he doesn't really
do that anymore. But that was twelve years ago. He
was he was a little bit more fiery.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
So but what's that like going back to the huddle.

Speaker 8 (44:39):
It's it's not Well, first of all, I had to
deal with it before I even got to the huddle,
because I mean, he's literally approaching me as this is happening.
So I'm going to him and I'm and I say,
I thought I thought you gave you know whatever, And
then in the moment, I think that's sometimes the worst
thing to do, whether it's to your parents, to your
your your you know, your uncle, your veteran quarterback, it's

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the same something that isn't like a legitimate response to them. Ye,
and I thought it was a legit response because this
signal and this signal or damn close. So I'm like,
I thought you meant the other one. And then he
taught me what details are about, and he says, breaks
that whole thing. I told you down about the two
man versus one man concept, and you got to be
able to take care of that in your head, like
you know, if you I'm not going to give you
a two man concept to a one man's side, So

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you have to understand. You got to do the math
quickly and make that work. So right then I said, okay,
that next week, I just dove into the details is different,
And I mean the man changed my life because he
got me, He got me dialed into the you know,
knowing just how important small things are in this game.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
You were in Vegas and uh it felt like you
can blend in in Vegas. That didn't you know? You
went to a party I think, and you had people
didn't know what you did for a living. Yeah that
was that was my my daughter's party. Yeah okay, yeah,
oh so it's your daughter's party.

Speaker 3 (45:54):
It was her party.

Speaker 8 (45:54):
We invited the parents of her school and her classmates too,
And I wasn't at the school as much at that point,
so they had no idea. They see days at school
They had no idea that I was her father. So
they show up at the house and it's a little
weird for him.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
So when do they realize what you do for a living?

Speaker 8 (46:13):
Well, they all knew what I did for a living,
they just didn't know that I was the one whose
house they were showing up to. So they showed up
at DeVante Adam's house thinking they were just going to
their kids friends' birthday party, and I was there greeting them, saying, hello,
welcome to my house.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
Did you have your jersey on?

Speaker 3 (46:31):
I didn't. I was wearing my helmet though.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
But in Green Bay you can't walk around you're not
anonymous in Green Bay.

Speaker 8 (46:40):
Yeah, I mean it's to be honest, it's it's not
as comfortable as i'd like just period. But in Green
Bay there's there's a lot more people with fair skin there,
So I think I think just that alone kind of
draws a little attention, not in a bad way, but like,
you know, it's like you're here, so you know, and

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I look a little athletic.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
So even if they don't know, sometimes they kind of know.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
Yeah, so you must pay for the package, correct, Yeah, Yeah,
don't know what position, but you like, I'll.

Speaker 3 (47:09):
Tell you this.

Speaker 8 (47:10):
I have my manager who is by no means appearing
to be a football player.

Speaker 3 (47:14):
He's he is of.

Speaker 8 (47:15):
The darker complexion, I will say that. But we go
to a Buffalo Wia Wings. It's like my second year
and I'm sitting there with my hood on and they
got my strings pulled and I'm waiting for the order
and somebody walks by him. He's like five to seven,
not in amazing shape, and it doesn't again, doesn't look
like he plays football. And they walk by him, tap
on the shoulder and go good luck Sunday.

Speaker 3 (47:38):
And that let me know.

Speaker 8 (47:39):
I was like, yeah, I think I don't think I'll
be outside too much out here.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
But Los Angeles you can blend in.

Speaker 8 (47:44):
You can blend in a lot better there, that's for sure.
And it's built a little bit more for that.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
But have you met celebrities?

Speaker 3 (47:50):
And oh yeah, well I've met celebrities.

Speaker 8 (47:53):
I mean, I played in New York, I got I
played in you know, in uh in Vegas. So I've
had the opportunity to come across a lot of people.

Speaker 3 (47:59):
But LA is full of him.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
Okay, but give me the Oh my god, that's such
and such.

Speaker 8 (48:05):
Since being on the Rams or just period period. I
mean your your jay Z's your you know, obviously Bron
is a big one, and me being in LA. He
actually I saw him at Fanatics vests in New York
just recently, and he's coming through and anywhere Lebron goes.
I don't know if you've ever been around Lebron. They

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basically there's music playing, they cut the music off. They
made it's like the biggest deal in the world. So
when he walks through, everybody's just like staring at him.
And he came through and he was just kind of
walking with security and then he like gave like fully
embraced me as like the only person in like the building,
and everybody was looking at me like what that. And
I wasn't expecting. I was just sitting there with my
water just kind of zipping and I saw him. I

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was like, what's up? And he just leaned over fully
embraced me, started talking about the LA thing and everything.

Speaker 3 (48:51):
So, you know, I'm just a young, humble dude.

Speaker 8 (48:53):
For Me's Paul Alto, California, And obviously I know who
I am to people, but you lose sight of that
when you are, you know, humble and just staying focus
on continuing.

Speaker 3 (49:02):
To get better.

Speaker 8 (49:02):
And when you got a guy like Lebron that'll come
in and only embrace you, you know, immediately out of
in a building, that obviously means a lot.

Speaker 2 (49:10):
What kind of football player do you think Lebron would
have made?

Speaker 8 (49:12):
He would have He would have been one of the
best receivers tight ends all time, no question. I don't
know if you've ever seen him play football.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
I saw him play a high school.

Speaker 3 (49:20):
Yeah, he can.

Speaker 8 (49:21):
He can fly too, That's the thing he's He's one
of the fastest NBA players probably all time. I've never
seen somebody cover space on a on a basketball court.
Maybe John Wall Derreck Rose something like that.

Speaker 3 (49:32):
But but he's up there with all of them.

Speaker 2 (49:33):
But you get guys whenever I bring up basketball players
playing football and they go, yeah, once they get hit
one time and then we'll see.

Speaker 8 (49:41):
Well they Bron doesn't help his case by the way
he asks him some times. But I do I do
think it's it's a little bit strategy in there, so
I don't I don't think he's actually like banged up
every time. Now, if you're doing that in football, we're
gonna have some issues and that might slow the game
up a little bit.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
Because, Uh, but you guys, do you flop in football? Yeah,
trying to get a call.

Speaker 8 (50:03):
The football flop is like when you're trying to like
get under a dude's skin and you and he pushes
you and you do that to get a flag, not
like not you know, you get some flops like p
I flops and stuff like that a little bit, but
it's never like it's never like the soccer dudes. Like
I think soccer is really the worst soccer dudes when
they I think it's because the game doesn't stop. Maybe
that's what it is, so they really need some breaks

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in the game. But these dudes get like touched on
their shoulder and they like are grabbing the shoulder, mouth
is wide open, screaming and stuff like that, So I
think they'd be.

Speaker 3 (50:31):
A little worse off.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
Do you have a hit that was a welcome to
the NFL hit?

Speaker 3 (50:35):
Oh? Absolutely well.

Speaker 8 (50:37):
I've gotten hit more than what I would like in
this league, that's for sure, but I would say welcome
to the league was my It was either either Dante
high tower my my first year, I caught a slant
a high one and and brought it in and he
hit me, knocked the wind out of me, and then
I would say, after that probably my second in your preseason.

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We were playing the Patriots and I ran another slant
and thought I was getting busy. After this is before
I would wear a mouthpiece and caught it and I
was getting ready to turn up, and Jamie Collins just
hit me in my in like like one of these
like in your chest, and it raised up so it
made me bite through my tongue and I couldn't eat
food for like a week and a half.

Speaker 3 (51:19):
I had to. It was on like a strictly liquid.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
Ye, why don't you wear a mouthpiece?

Speaker 8 (51:23):
Well, my reason is gonna be even dumber than that.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
Okay, can we guess why Davante Adams wouldn't wear a
mouth Let's yeah, I would love the sea.

Speaker 4 (51:33):
You know what?

Speaker 10 (51:33):
You have very nice teeth and a good smile. I
think for branding, he didn't want to cover up the
money maker.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
You want to keep those teeth. That's why you wear
the mo reason Okay, cheating? What do you think I think?
Because they taste funny?

Speaker 3 (51:48):
All right?

Speaker 7 (51:49):
Marvin new teeth, new teeth like you had gotten them done?

Speaker 8 (51:55):
Oh okay, No, that's not it, but I would say
it's dumb than all of those.

Speaker 3 (52:00):
For sure.

Speaker 8 (52:01):
I would wear a gold grill, like like the gold
teeth in in games, so I would I wore I
wore the tops and bottoms in games. And it was
it started in high school because it was kind of
like a culture thing. That's I grew up in East
Palotto and that was a that was a real popular thing.
Guys wore grills, and I just decided to keep it,
and it was kind of it worked as kind of

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like an intimidation factor.

Speaker 3 (52:23):
A little bit too. I would see people.

Speaker 8 (52:25):
People would see it and they'd be like, Oh, this
dude's wearing the gold teeth in the game, Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (52:30):
And then I'll talk a little.

Speaker 8 (52:31):
Crazier to him too, obviously, and put all that together. So, yeah,
not the best reason, and I and I put one
in the next game after that.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
He is a three time All Pro, six time Pro
bowler now with the Rams. Davante Adams, how much work
have you had with Matthew Stafford.

Speaker 3 (52:46):
Quite a bit, man. We we got right to it.

Speaker 8 (52:48):
Had a had a really productive offseason and and I
worked probably some of the hardest I've worked, just feeling
really rejuvenated and and and ready to go and win
some games.

Speaker 3 (52:56):
So he he looks amazing too.

Speaker 8 (52:59):
He looks at just like the Matthew Stafford we all
fell in love with seventeen years ago when he came
in doing his thing.

Speaker 3 (53:04):
So I'm having a lot of a lot of fun.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
Doing it with me. How's McVeigh just like everybody says.

Speaker 8 (53:12):
I mean, I haven't heard anybody say anything different about McVeigh.
I think of any coach ever spoken about to me,
it's been the most uniform feedback ever.

Speaker 3 (53:22):
And then I got around him and he completely validated.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
He's got some energy.

Speaker 8 (53:25):
He's got energy he's got but it's all legit, it's real.
You can you can feel him. You just love being
around his energy even when you don't do things wrong,
or you don't do things right, and you may have
you know, messed something up, like you don't feel that
like all my coach is gonna come down on me,
like he's gonna correct you and he's gonna hold you accountable.
But it's just a different feeling in that building right now.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
Anybody that you're looking forward to meeting here in Tahoe, I.

Speaker 8 (53:50):
Really I got to look at who's all here this year.
I haven't even seen fully everybody, but I've seen a
lot of the staff and yeah, yeah, I've met all
those guys.

Speaker 3 (53:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (53:58):
I was on the par five on the other side
of the course when he knocked it in on uh,
I think it was number seven.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
What did you hit the hole in one?

Speaker 3 (54:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (54:06):
When he hit the whole on one, I think that
was seven. Yeah, And I heard it from like the
other side of the course. So I felt like I
met him then if I didn't meet.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
Him before that, I know that you got Taco Bell hat. Yeah,
and uh so you're you're flying the colors there, Yes, sir,
you're so. You walk into Taco Bell and you ordered.

Speaker 8 (54:23):
What two crunch Trap Supremes one, Dorito's locals, Taco Supreme
no tomatoes on either or two of the other and
depending on kind of where I'm at with that, camel
Apple and panada, if they want to bring that back
again for me, I did bring that back for a
while next to Pezza as well. So you guys are
completely welcome.

Speaker 2 (54:42):
Marvin. You're he's speaking your language here.

Speaker 7 (54:45):
Contrapt Supreme for me with the Mountain Dew Baja Blast.

Speaker 8 (54:48):
There you go. You gotta go to the canteena in Vegas.
They throw something in that for you if you if
you're interested, and just drop your name right, yeah, just
just tell them, tell him you there, tell them tell
him tasting you tay.

Speaker 7 (55:00):
They'd be like, oh you know tea.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
Yeah, I'll go the cheesy Gordida crunch though, and then
these cinnabon delights as well.

Speaker 3 (55:08):
Oh wow, you depending your bag there?

Speaker 2 (55:11):
Yeah, yeah we might.

Speaker 8 (55:12):
I'm feeling like we did some research before.

Speaker 2 (55:17):
We're professionals here, attention to detail, just like Aaron Rodgers.
There you go, yeah, you go. What's great to meet
and good luck. I know that you're a six handicap,
so you're getting into that area where you might not
improve as much as you did when you're around nine, ten, eleven,
twelve handicap. Then you see improvement. Now you're gonna be like, damn,

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I'm still six.

Speaker 3 (55:41):
The worst thing you can ever do in golf is
get better.

Speaker 8 (55:44):
I'm telling you, it's so frustrating. I sawear I could
just run around just having to sip a crown and.

Speaker 3 (55:53):
Just enjoying the game at eighteen. Now I care too
much about it.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
Oh so you won't sip any Crown Royal there.

Speaker 8 (56:00):
I'll sit, but I would. They were a little stronger
ships back then.

Speaker 2 (56:03):
I will say thanks again for joining us and good
luck this upcoming season.

Speaker 3 (56:08):
Thank you appreciate.

Speaker 2 (56:09):
That's Davante Adams