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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio. Jerome vettis the bus. He stopped by yesterday
after the show.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
We sat down and talked to him, and I was
kind of surprised at his physique.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
He almost looked like a mini.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Bus, and I said he might be losing that great
nickname of the bus.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
Gotta go the way.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Okay, what's your weight compared to when you when you played?
Speaker 5 (00:29):
Right now, I'm still twenty pounds over when I played.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Okay, yeah, so you're but.
Speaker 5 (00:36):
I had those big old short of paths on so
it make you It makes you look like you.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
A lot bigger than you really are.
Speaker 6 (00:42):
But now there's no pants, it's all stomach.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Did you pick shoulder pans to make you look bigger?
Speaker 6 (00:50):
No?
Speaker 5 (00:50):
I needed him because I was doing a lot of
a lot of heavy lifting, so the little bitty short
pass it didn't work for me. I needed to have
some short of paths to act. He worked a lot
of these players. Nowadays, the pads don't even work. I
needed some functional short of pass because there were guys
bigger than me trying to take me out.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
So I needed some real shoulder pads.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Okay, but explain to me that nobody has pads anymore,
no small shoulder pads. You might have a mouthpiece. You
might not like what's going on.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
It's you know, it's about speed now. I think that's what.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
Everybody's trying to get as much speed as they can.
So the big guys are wearing little pads and little
shorter pads so that they can be quicker and faster.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
And then the fast guys are wearing.
Speaker 5 (01:37):
Nothing, no, no pads, no nothing, very they want to
be as quick as they can possibly be.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
And you've done that. Hurt if you hit me in
the thigh, if.
Speaker 6 (01:47):
You get if they hit you, period, you hurt.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
Right now, these guys are trying not to get hit
at all, but if you get hit, it's going to hurt.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
What's the worst place that you got hit?
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (01:59):
I got hit in the quad and it split my
quad and it split it vertically, so so the muscles
kind of went that way. They didn't, it didn't tear,
they tore apart. It was a you know what, we're
playing Jacksonville and I don't I don't remember who hit me.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
You know, it was one of those hits.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
It didn't seem like much right, you get hit and
you know, you get up to and then you say ooh,
and then the day after you saying, oh, we got
a problem because this.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Is not this is not working that well and that
and that's what happened.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
But if you could and you could run like Derrick
Henry or Barkley, who would you want to run like.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
Saquon Barkley Because once he leaves, he's gone.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Derrick Henry doesn't get caught. Oh he didn't get.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
Caught very often, but saquin is gone once he he
is gone.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
And and I what I just I.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
Just love the way he plays. I mean, Derrick Henry
is a throwback. He could have played in any era, right,
I mean he's playing in this era. He could have
played in the air. Is just it's just fun because
he he does some things that I don't think any
other human can do at times. I mean, to see
that run that he had that he jumped, it was
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just you had to rewind it because I was like,
are you serious? I Mean, I've seen a lot of
great runs in my lifetime, but I think that was
the single mos most athletic run from a running back
that I've ever seen.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
You know, your longest run from scrimmage.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
From scrimmage, Yes, it was, I was.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
It was my rookie year.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
I think, yeah, it was.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
We played we were playing New Orleans and I think
it was seventy seventy one. I'm cheating myself, man, I
can't cheap my yard.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Like how you acted like you didn't know.
Speaker 6 (04:02):
I knew, I knew, I remember it, but I don't.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
I didn't.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
I didn't.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
I thought it was seventy. Honestly, did you get no? No?
Speaker 2 (04:10):
No, okay, yeah, yeah yeah, take that. Take that Barry Sanders?
Can you explain? Can you explain Barry Sanders? And let's
say nobody saw Barry Sanders, and you're gonna say, hey,
there's this guy.
Speaker 5 (04:27):
It's one of those you say, well he does, he goes,
he'll stop.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
I didn't then, and then.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
After all of those you say, it's a touchdown. It's
a touchdown. It's a touchdown. But I can't really tell
you how he got there. He went one place, he
transformed to another place and ended up in the end zone.
I can't tell you how he got there. Because people
what he did something.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Special, and it was special, But I don't know what
he did.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Hall of famer Drome bettis joining us here Lake Tahoe.
The Steelers let Najee Harris go, and it always feels
like that offense is predicated on having a good running
back there.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
Yeah, you know, they they went away from Naji. I
was a big fan of Naji Harris. I saw him
develop every single year and was impressive.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
But are they going to be a passing team?
Speaker 4 (05:31):
No, No, they're going to run the football.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
They drafted young kid from Iowa who's really really good
running back.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Bring Aaron Rodgers and DK Metcalf.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
Well, you're still going to throw the football, but you're
still going to have to run the football. If you
ask Aaron Rodgers throw the ball forty times, that's a mistake,
And Aaron would tell you that's a mistake. I don't
think he wants to throw the ball forty times at
forty years old, right, So he wants a running game too,
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because now if he can throw between twenty five and
thirty balls a game, that's meaningful touches. And so I
just think they have got to run the football because
what you don't want to do is have him running
around in the pocket at forty forty years old and
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taking those hits. You want them to play action. And
I think that's when Aaron Rodgers at his best play action.
He's moving, he's getting.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
The ball out, he's you know, quicking.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
The huddle out of the huddle running. So I think
running the ball is a big part of what they
need to do.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Would you rather play for Marcus Freeman or Mike Tomlin?
Speaker 5 (06:45):
Oh, man, that's tough. Well, I'll tell you this. I
would say Mike Tomlin as an adult, right, as a
guy who's a veteran guy. If I was a a
college player or a rookies first second year, I would
want to play, uh for coach Freeman.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
You freshman, he's there as a freshman.
Speaker 7 (07:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
And and I think it's two two totally different types
of of coaches. One he's you know, he's been there,
he's done that, he knows how to reach you.
Speaker 6 (07:24):
And the other guy is a young coach.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
He's got energy and you know, he's you think he
may be one of the players.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
He's built something special there has he's tapped into the
second generation of of NFL players.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
He has and and and I think part of that
is NFL players understand the benefit of the educational side
of it, and they say, hey, if we if I
can get my son there, that'd be a great win
for me. Now, you know, it's a little different because
you know the guys are transferring and moving around, but
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you know they they want to they want to try
to get there because I think Coach Freeman he resonates
to those fathers of players who played. You know I played,
and you know a lot of other different guys they played,
and so now their sons are going through it, and
we know the questions to ask and we know what
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looks genuine. And when you look at Coach Freeman, you
see that's genuine.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
How's your golf, kin, It's you.
Speaker 8 (08:31):
Know, it's good until until they put the lights on.
Until the lights it's good until they line up all
the people on the fairway and it's like, okay, uh no,
but it's it's it's good.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
More nerve wracking playing in the super Bowl or playing
in this celebrity event.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
Oh, this celebrity event way more nerve racking.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
The super Bowl is only nerve wracking in pregame because
you know, you come out for the pregame and it's
you know, it's so much energy, it's so much energy, right,
and so you're seeing you know, all these people people
on the sidelines, you know, celebrities and this that, and
so you're seeing all these people as you're trying to
warm up, you know, and so people talking to you,
(09:17):
and so you don't really get a chance to warm
up the way you did. But you warm up, warm
up twice. In the Super Bowl. You come out an
hour and a half before. Then you come out about
thirty minutes before, so you so it's it's a lot different.
But here, uh, you know, it's just you in that ball.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
It's like, man, you.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
Start talking yourself, come on, do the right thing, going
the whole, Please.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
Go on the whole.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
Then you start begging, please go on the hole.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Great to see you, Bussy, Thanks for stopping on, Thanks
for having me.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
It's always great.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
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Speaker 2 (10:06):
Wapp Yesterday, the Miz Great Wrestler, All time Hall of
Fame wrestler, he stopped to buy and he brought some
energy here. So we wanted to bring you that conversation
we had with the Miz, and I started out by
asking him, when did you become this character?
Speaker 3 (10:23):
The Miz?
Speaker 9 (10:24):
Real World Back to New York Season ten, two thousand
and one.
Speaker 6 (10:29):
I was in New York City.
Speaker 9 (10:31):
I'm from parm Ohio, so it was a very eye
opening situation for me.
Speaker 6 (10:35):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 9 (10:36):
It's like when you come from parm Ohio and you
go you get thrown into New York and you're with
seven strangers you never met and you have to live
with them. Then you have cameras twenty four to seven
on you. It's a very uncomfortable situation. And I wasn't
well liked by my castmates, and so the way I
kind of jelled with them, like I came to a
boiling point where I was just like, you know what,
(10:58):
I'm gonna tell him like it is, I'm just gonna
start cutting promos and call myself the Miz. And then
they started liking the Miz more than they liked Mike.
So I was like, this is great, right, So then
I started just doing the minut they do the do
the Maz, do the Mass do the Miz.
Speaker 6 (11:11):
I'd be like, you know, this.
Speaker 9 (11:13):
Is me just talking trash, right, And they were like
we love it, So it's kind of how it all started.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
But okay, so you become the miz and then you
developed that character and then you go into WWE.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Yes, but I'm wondering.
Speaker 9 (11:26):
If I go right into WWE though, Like it was
like five years so I so I went on to challenges.
So after the real world, you get invited to go
real world road rules challenges, right, and this is another
show and I on that show. I kind of I
got I won the first time, and I used all
my winnings to move to Los Angeles to have acting.
Speaker 6 (11:49):
Coach, improv coach, nutritionist.
Speaker 9 (11:53):
I also paid a person to teach me the art
of professional wrestling. So I started doing all these things
that I thought would get me to WWE. They didn't
call like right away. It wasn't like you were in
the real world and it's like they called No. I
had to train for I would say four years before
they even took a look at me. And I was
using all the different avenues, all the tools that I
(12:15):
could possibly gain to become a WW supers that I thought.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Right, But I wonder if those wrestlers looked at you
as a poser, like.
Speaker 6 (12:23):
They hated me hated me. They did not want me
in WWE at all.
Speaker 9 (12:28):
But the execs all saw the potential, right, they saw
that it wasn't just me wanting my fifteen minutes of fame.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
To parla names. They hated you, Nobody liked me.
Speaker 9 (12:38):
I walked into that locker room and I got kicked
out within three months. Now you might be like, wait,
you're a grown man. Why would you let anyone kick
you out of a locker room? Well, the reason is
to be good in WWE inside the ring, you have
to learn from the veterans that know how to do
what they need to do, how to be a main
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eventor I knew how to do the moves right, you
get taught the moves, but don't I didn't know how
to become a main eventor I didn't know how to
be a big WWE superstar, and I needed them to
teach me.
Speaker 6 (13:11):
And the problem is with me, I'm very loud. I
don't know if you notice that, and.
Speaker 9 (13:16):
I make a bad first impression. I really do, and
I know I do now now as a forty four
year old, like, I've kind of learned that about myself.
Speaker 6 (13:25):
But when you're twenty five, you.
Speaker 9 (13:27):
Don't know, you're just blah blah blah blah blah, you know,
like and it's like, oh, yeah, I know, I know,
I know, And it's like almost like you know everything,
but you don't feel like. So they were kind of
teaching me a lesson that, look, you.
Speaker 6 (13:37):
Want to be here.
Speaker 9 (13:38):
We want to see if you really want to be here,
So we're gonna make it very hard for you. But
if you do want to be here and you make
it through all this, you'll be.
Speaker 6 (13:47):
Better in the end.
Speaker 9 (13:48):
And I am better in the end, And I'm very
thankful for everything that I've been that I had to
go through to get to where I am, because those
hardships have made me into the person I am today.
And it made me realize whatever you throw at me,
it's not gonna FaZe me because I've already been through.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
That explained to me that developing your character your persona,
because you can technically, technically, you can wrestle, but to
become a main eventor you have to have something that
people gravitate towards. Sure, or they they hate you, you're
the heel, but they still want to watch you.
Speaker 9 (14:17):
I I created a character that was very egotistical, arrogant,
the most arrogant person. But I also wanted a person
that you know, like you you you see this person,
you see me out there, and you're like, I know
this guy, and I hate this guy, buddy.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
So I'll give you an example.
Speaker 6 (14:32):
I'll give you an example.
Speaker 9 (14:33):
So I saw back when I was first started, Kevin
Federline was a big deal and he would wear a
bandana and like a Fedora hat.
Speaker 6 (14:41):
And I so, I said, so, I said, I.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Said, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6 (14:45):
So everyone hated him right now. I was like, oh wow,
I'm gonna start wearing I wonder.
Speaker 9 (14:49):
So the way I would test, the way I would
test how it would go over is I would go
in the locker room or not in the locker room,
but I'd go backstage, and if I had the bandana
and fedora, if people started making fun of me or
saying something about it, I'm wearing that on TV because
if they're doing it, guess who else is gonna do it?
Speaker 6 (15:07):
The audience?
Speaker 9 (15:08):
And what do I want the audience to do? Can't
stand me, don't like me? Because I want their hero
to come out and be either triumphant or beat their
hero so badly that they hate me even more, Well, what's.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
It like to beat a popular wrestler for the first time?
Speaker 9 (15:22):
When I beat John Cena in the main event of
WrestleMania's is that what you're talking about? There's nothing quite
like it, my friend, There's nothing quite like beating John
Cena in the main event of WrestleMania and retaining the
WWE Championship. So I'll tell you what that's that's uh that?
And people are always like, dude, you always bragg about that.
Speaker 6 (15:42):
Wouldn't you, wouldn't you?
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Okay, how does Sina when you see John, how long
before you bring up that?
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Or do you bring that up at all?
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (15:51):
I'll bring it up every time, okay? Kidding me?
Speaker 9 (15:53):
Like John taught me more in WWE and in life.
He is an unbelievable talent, but an even a better
human being. And so he literally he took me as
a young kid, and when everyone else was like showing
me away, he was guiding me and showing me. Whenever
I was in the ring with him, he was teaching
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me not just how to be a superstar, but to
be a main eventor how to do that.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
And so it feels like you're following his career path.
Speaker 6 (16:23):
I hope.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
So.
Speaker 6 (16:24):
I mean he's doing a tremendous job.
Speaker 9 (16:26):
From Peacemaker to all the movies that he's been able
to do, he's a tremendous success. And there's a reason
he's a tremendous success. It's because he's the hardest working
person out there. And I try to emulate what he does,
and I think Cody Rhads is doing the exact same thing.
Speaker 6 (16:38):
I think Seth Rollins does that as well.
Speaker 9 (16:40):
If you're the hardest working person and you have like me,
I was always like, I'll outwork talent, like if you
have more, if you're more talented than me, I'll outwork
that and I'll be better because your laziness is going
to hinder you, and my hard work is going to
make me thrive. And so with John Cena, with Cody Roads,
with Seth Rawlins, with WWE Superstars, that's we breed. We
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breed hard work and dedication because if you are not
a hard working individual, you'll be weeded out real quick.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Are you a Browns fan?
Speaker 6 (17:08):
Huge Browns fan?
Speaker 2 (17:09):
We're going to the super Bowl to watch No, we're
going to the super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
He's taking us there.
Speaker 9 (17:15):
If he gets injured, we'll take one of our other three.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
We got a big we got a big quarterback room.
Are you not bringing to Shawn Watson though?
Speaker 9 (17:22):
No, we got we got fan. I mean, Stefanski is
an amazing coach. We know that he's a two time
Coach of the Year. There's a reason for that. He
knows how to get the best out of quarterbacks. And
so now he has two rookies. And I don't even
think Kenny Pickett could be something that There was a
there was a preseason where everyone says Kenny Pickett was
the MVP of that preseason, and then the season came
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and then does anyone remember that?
Speaker 6 (17:44):
Does anyone remember that?
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Nobody remembers because it's the preseason.
Speaker 6 (17:48):
I'm telling you.
Speaker 9 (17:49):
I'm telling you there was a moment where because I'm
a Browns fan, and everyone's.
Speaker 6 (17:52):
Like, Kitty Pickett, You kidding.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
How many concussions we haven't had with you?
Speaker 6 (17:57):
I am very good right now. Katy Pickett was the
end VP of the three season.
Speaker 9 (18:01):
And then they put their their packages, in their defensive
packages in he couldn't take it. Now we have him.
I think it's defense. He keeps the best out of him.
I think Flacko is a great veteran. I think Chadur
maybe a circus, but he throws the ball very well.
Speaker 6 (18:15):
And he has a dad.
Speaker 9 (18:16):
That literally has been there, has been the best of
the best, so I mean he's been taught by the best.
Speaker 6 (18:22):
And then you have Gabriel.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
It's not firing.
Speaker 6 (18:26):
You're selling your.
Speaker 9 (18:28):
Selling you on the brown Who's the best defensive player
in all of the NFL? Whose team is he on?
Miles Garrett, the Cleveland Browns. Let's go, And we just
got a rookie on our third pick. By the way,
did you not see what we did? I was upset
about it, a little upset that we traded down because
I thought we were getting trapped under. But then we
traded down and we got all these picks. So I
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got a first round pick next year too. So I'm
sitting good right now, I'm sitting good. We're going to
Who do you think is going to the super Bowl?
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Not the Browns?
Speaker 6 (18:58):
Who come on, give me something.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
There's there's probably seven seven seams, seven or eight teams.
Speaker 6 (19:04):
We got that.
Speaker 9 (19:05):
Kansas City, Buffalo, Yeah, Baltimore, sure, sure, you'll take Baltimore
over Browns.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Yes, Cincinnati, I'm from Cincinnati. Oh god, Okay, okay, that
explained Sara.
Speaker 6 (19:21):
You know I I you know.
Speaker 9 (19:22):
The sad part is I really like Joe Joe Joe Burrow. Yes,
now that's a quarterback, it is. But I mean I
don't think they give any like any line.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
What they got.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
They have tons of what They spend all their money
on their on their wide receivers.
Speaker 6 (19:36):
Like why though, Like, don't you want to line that
protects me?
Speaker 3 (19:38):
I know, I know what are you doing?
Speaker 6 (19:40):
I don't, I don't. Can't you make a call?
Speaker 3 (19:42):
You're Dan Patrick, You're.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Right, And I said, how about we signed the defensive guys.
How about we give the Joe a chance so you
didn't have to score thirty eight points every game.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
I'm gonna do my best. But you're in You're in
QB hell like you are.
Speaker 9 (19:56):
I've been in QB hell for since Bernie Kozar, so
you're not speaking anything differently to me, I know. So
you don't get me started about Baker may Cold. I
was here, yes, and he's amazing. Like you, you get
to know Baker Mayfield like I've been here a couple
of years. I got to know him a little bit.
He's amazing. Want because I'm angry. I'm mad because you
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brought up Baker Mayfield and I thought he was our
franchise quarterback. I really had the feeling, and I love
the moxy of him. Like he woke up feeling dangerous.
That's what Cleveland, Cleveland wakes up every morning. Every morning
in Cleveland, we're like, yeah, I feel dangerous.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Do you want to hit somebody?
Speaker 6 (20:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (20:38):
When's the last time you hit somebody?
Speaker 4 (20:40):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (20:40):
Probably about a month ago in the ring?
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Okay, yeah, because I got a guy here, Paully, who
would like to he was a high school wrestler.
Speaker 6 (20:49):
Actually that's not true.
Speaker 9 (20:51):
I would say like two weeks ago, I was just
hosting American Gladiators, the new reboot. So I'm hosting it.
I'm not a gladiator, but I'm I get to hit.
Speaker 6 (21:00):
I get to hit.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Can you take off your headphones? PAULI will take off here?
Just showing one move here, Well, I'm not showing him
a move.
Speaker 6 (21:06):
What do you want me to show him?
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Just if you were going to teach somebody a lesson.
Speaker 6 (21:10):
I'll give you an audio waiver. If I get hurt,
it's on me.
Speaker 9 (21:13):
But what I guess, like you want do you want
to learn a lock up whatever.
Speaker 6 (21:18):
I know that's so bored. I'm not that that is
terrible what you just did right there.
Speaker 9 (21:22):
I don't think he's you don't have a athletic bone
in your body.
Speaker 6 (21:26):
Absolutely, I want to hurt this guy.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
No, it's okay, it's good content.
Speaker 6 (21:30):
I'll tell you what.
Speaker 9 (21:31):
I'll let you chop me. How about that? A chomp
is like it's like standard. It kind of hurts, but
it won't hurt from seeing the seeing your athletic ability.
It's not gonna hurt me at all.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Okay, take off your headphones, all right, chop here we.
Speaker 6 (21:47):
Go by the way. Chopping, no joke, it hurts. What
are you doing?
Speaker 3 (21:54):
So here's that's okay.
Speaker 6 (21:57):
Show. I'm gonna show you how to chop.
Speaker 9 (22:00):
Okay, open hand right, So you want to cup it
because I want to big.
Speaker 6 (22:04):
I want it loud. I want it loud. Right Where
am I hitting?
Speaker 9 (22:06):
And you're gonna hit right here? So the way it's
gonna go, I'm gonna hit it. I'm gonna do it
very light on you. I'm getting you the camera.
Speaker 6 (22:11):
That camera right there is the one we want. That's
the good camera. So we go here and when you
reach back, you wop up. Okay, that was nice, That
was friendly.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
That was friendly.
Speaker 6 (22:22):
That I did it very lightly, gives you a little more.
Speaker 9 (22:26):
So you want a little little more, a lot more, okay,
a lot more, A little bittle more, a little.
Speaker 6 (22:31):
More at the first one, you sure.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Face.
Speaker 6 (22:45):
So now you're gonna do it to me? Okay, which
hand are you? I'll go right the camera.
Speaker 9 (22:51):
No, I want you to beat your Oh my god,
the beast athletic person I ever seen in my life.
Speaker 6 (22:55):
So what you're gonna do? Loosen up? My god?
Speaker 9 (22:58):
If you were like that, you're like this in anything,
in golf, anything, you're like this, you're gonna blow up.
You're you're not gonna be able to breathe. So I
want you nice and loose, comfortable, float, and now you're
just gonna reach back and now go, now go, you
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asked the least athletic person I've ever seen.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
He's the only volunteer though, that was rotten, And he's
the only guy. See, Marvin is athletic, Go easy, he's
the miss.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
And Marvin is a wrestling fan too, Like he gets
in there.
Speaker 6 (23:44):
Well, he didn't get in there at all.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Marvin, do you want a piece of news?
Speaker 1 (23:48):
What are you doing?
Speaker 6 (23:49):
Am I just doing wrestling? Golf Championship? I thought that
we're doing a promo this the is are.
Speaker 9 (24:01):
Is that what I sound like when I when I
is that what I sound like? When?
Speaker 4 (24:07):
Nineties?
Speaker 6 (24:07):
Got it?
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Great to see, great.
Speaker 6 (24:12):
To see, Thank you very much?
Speaker 9 (24:14):
And uh do I give an luck out here in
the America Century Championship. I mean, I'm a five thousand
to one. Barkley are the worst rated I know.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
I saw that.
Speaker 6 (24:22):
I get a YouTube.
Speaker 9 (24:23):
Channel for golf miss Golf, and literally they're like, yeah,
we you're the worst out here.
Speaker 6 (24:28):
I'm I'm not bad. I'm a good golfer.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Will you finish? You won't finish last?
Speaker 6 (24:34):
No? Okay, I've never finished last?
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Are you begging last? You bet?
Speaker 6 (24:40):
I haven't been.
Speaker 9 (24:41):
In the past three years that we've went, we've went
up against each other. But the goal is to get
to Barkley, to get to to get to better. Barkley
was sixty first last year. That's not anything to say.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Forget about ninety.
Speaker 6 (24:53):
Yeah, and I was eighty third.
Speaker 9 (24:55):
Okay, I beat a rod all right now something yeah
like wow.
Speaker 6 (25:02):
Great, wow, I'd beat Chasing Kelsey Wow. Nothing?
Speaker 3 (25:06):
No, I mean, what do you want me.
Speaker 9 (25:07):
To say, I beat pricing to shamba, he's not playing
all right, don't you want to be great?
Speaker 6 (25:12):
I there's a reason.
Speaker 9 (25:15):
So I made my golf YouTube channel, miss Golf because
of the American Century, because I was playing so poorly
that I wanted to learn really like hone in and
lock in on how to be great at golf.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
So I was like, all right, let's make fun.
Speaker 9 (25:29):
Let's let's make golf fun, right, so let's do a
YouTube channel that's fun. But also you learn as an
eighteen handicap like how to become better. So it teaches
you whether you're good or you're bad. It teaches you
a little bit of everything, all while entertaining you as well.
So I feel like, not only will I entertain out
here at American Century Championship in Tahoe, but I will
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dominate and I will do absolutely fantastic and great, and
I will be the person that people will want to
see because I'm gonna do that great and that five
thousand and one, that one dollar is going.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
To go a long way about a round of a pun.
Speaker 6 (26:01):
Let's go.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
Let's go.
Speaker 6 (26:03):
Thank you, buddy, Thank you very much, guys, appreciate you.
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Speaker 3 (27:00):
Problem is, is Matt ready to go? Paul? Yes, we
need to escort Matt Ryan up here.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
How about a round of applause for the man they
call Mattie eyes tall and lean.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (27:14):
Yeah, how were you doing? Guys?
Speaker 2 (27:16):
It looks like he's dropped like fifteen twenty pounds you're
just a we see this with offensive and defensive linemen.
Speaker 6 (27:23):
Do I any headset? No?
Speaker 3 (27:24):
No, you're good.
Speaker 6 (27:25):
Yeah, yeah, just.
Speaker 10 (27:29):
Not as muscular, a little softer around the edges, but
a little lighter.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
But did you try to purposely bulk up when I played? Yeah?
Speaker 10 (27:36):
Oh yeah, for sure. For me, it was always difficult
to keep the weight on just by kind of you know,
my frame or whatever it was. It was work to
try and get to two twenty two seventeen is what
I played at, and I probably weigh about two or
five now.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
So but do you just see quarterbacks like rag dolls?
But then you see those quarterbacks in person, and like
Trevor Lawrence is a big guy.
Speaker 6 (27:57):
No doubt you've seen him last night.
Speaker 10 (27:59):
I mean Trevor is I mean he is put together, yeah,
and just broad shouldered, big. And you know, we were
talking about Cam Newton last night too, same thing. Played
against him in Division. I remember meeting him for the
first time and being like, we played the same position.
Speaker 6 (28:12):
What are you talking about? And he looks like the
dns that I go against, So yes, yeah.
Speaker 10 (28:18):
It's it's there's some some big guys, but you know
I was able to do it pretty well at my
size and made it work for me.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
But is there you know, you see Peyton and Brady
and they would kind of go in the fetal position
if they were going to be sacked.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Yeah, that's okay, isn't it.
Speaker 10 (28:34):
Listen, Your your best ability is availability right when you
can play.
Speaker 6 (28:37):
Yeah, And so.
Speaker 10 (28:38):
Tom and Peyton they kind of had that down to
a science. I you know, I was kind of in
that that era of quarterbacks just right after them, right,
So I had watched them play in the NFL for
seven eight years, nine years before I got there, and
then you know, played. I guess Tom played longer than me.
He still was playing after I was done.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
But do you think he could still play?
Speaker 10 (28:57):
I think he could. I mean, I think the way
he takes care of himself, it looks like like he
looks he looks more fit now than he's ever ever been.
And so, you know, and I think the style with
which he played leads to being able to play longer, right,
not moving around, not having to run do all those
types of different things, because he could still throw it.
I mean, he could still spin it.
Speaker 6 (29:16):
At the end.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Uh Matt sacked five hundred times, four hundred and eighty
eight times he was sacked in his crew.
Speaker 6 (29:22):
Why but you were still pretty good? Look at you?
Speaker 10 (29:27):
Yeah, I still feel pretty good. I can still swing
the golf club.
Speaker 6 (29:30):
Which is good.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Is there one that stands out?
Speaker 10 (29:33):
One sack that stands out?
Speaker 6 (29:34):
Uh?
Speaker 10 (29:36):
I mean they all kind of run together when you
get about five hundred of them. But uh, I'd say
the sack fumble in the Super Bowl is probably the
one that listen. I think sometimes I think sometimes you
got to get in front of it, right, you're the guy.
You just got to go and go in front of him.
Speaker 6 (29:51):
So, if you're asking me about one of them, Dan, I.
Speaker 10 (29:55):
Would probably say that's the one I would like to have.
Speaker 6 (29:57):
Not been sacked on.
Speaker 10 (30:00):
But anyhow, what else do you guys want to talk about? Playoff?
Speaker 2 (30:05):
What was what was that play called? So you're in
the huddle and you call that play?
Speaker 3 (30:09):
What is it?
Speaker 10 (30:10):
That's a good question. I don't remember the exact play
call offhand. I'm always amazed some of these guys that
can rip back from you know, just off the cars.
Memories have to be it's really good. I remember the situation,
I remember what the route we had going on. We
had Aldric Robinson run in the corner that was coming
out like the top of this and he was going
to be open like he was. He was going to
be open and trying to hang on for that extra
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second give him a chance to make a play.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
But would that have been a touchdown?
Speaker 10 (30:35):
Uh, it would have been a chunk. I think there
was a chance, but it would have been a chunk
play for sure.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
But you don't remember the call, but I can't remember
it was.
Speaker 10 (30:43):
It was a designer what we call designer calls, So
it was like a specific play for that week, for
that situation. So it wasn't like you know, gun trips
right three jet jaws ex drift, which was one of
our staple plays.
Speaker 6 (30:53):
It was a designer play for that week.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Give us give us a call though that might surprise
us the depth of it that you're trying to absorb
if you're you know, a wide receiver running back.
Speaker 10 (31:04):
Yeah, I mean there's I'm trying to think of staple plays,
but like where it gets wordies in the run game
than canning or killing or checking or whatever you want
to a pass play. So you know we'd have like
west rd Zoomsy write nineteen want to force can you
know can gun three scat, you know, Exhole spacing.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
That's one play. That's one play, and so.
Speaker 10 (31:28):
You know, I mean it's I heard you read the
little script coming on here. That was more impressive to
me than calling a play. Right now that I've done
TV and I've seen the prompter and having to come
in and done some of those things, I find that
far more difficult than than regurgitating a play.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Called Matt Ryan joining us on the program. Yeah, you
start to think about making the transition. When did you
think about going from playing to then broadcasting?
Speaker 6 (31:55):
You know, I had listen.
Speaker 10 (31:56):
I've always had fun coming on shows with you or
or with different guys, And I had the opportunity a
couple of times while I was playing to go in
and do some studio work, one with CBS, one with ESPN,
and I enjoyed it. But I really didn't think about
it until I was done, you know. And my last
year in Indy was a difficult year for the organization,
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for myself, for everybody that was in it.
Speaker 6 (32:19):
And so.
Speaker 10 (32:21):
After that, I got back to Atlanta after that season
and was kind of talking with my wife about what
we wanted to do moving forward. My wife was pregnant
with my youngest son at the time, and it seemed like,
you know, it probably a good time to be rooted
and home, and that's where we started to explore some options.
I was really lucky got hired by CBS called Games
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for the first year, which was an absolute blast, a
ton of fun doing that, and then moved into the
studio the next year. So it kind of happened faster
than I thought. It wasn't something like I was planning
as a player, this is it, this is where I'm
going when I'm done.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
I was, you know, wondering about this though. When you
get towards the end, when do you know you're at
the end to your career?
Speaker 10 (33:01):
Uh, there were a handful of times in India I
knew it.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Was this.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Is probably it, But was it because of you?
Speaker 6 (33:09):
Listen?
Speaker 10 (33:10):
I still think I had gas left in the tank
right to be able to play. That year was a
strange year, like Frank Wright being fired and Jeff Saturday
coming in and I got benched and then came back
and played a little bit and just kind of the
whole the whole deal, and then being away. My wife
was pregnant with my youngest son, so they were back
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in Atlanta. She was there kind of visiting with doctors
there and they were back and forth, that whole kind
of thing.
Speaker 6 (33:36):
It wasn't like a wake up.
Speaker 10 (33:37):
It was just kind of a slow drip to you know,
and I think my life's moving in a different direction.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Did you ever think about trying to join the Eagles?
Speaker 6 (33:46):
I no, never, seriously.
Speaker 10 (33:50):
I grew up, But like I played against them enough
that they soon did not become my team, right, so
we know it's the Steelers.
Speaker 6 (34:00):
Could I have played for the Steelers? Yeah, Like.
Speaker 10 (34:04):
I think your allegiances, your childhood allegiances, yeah, go out
the wayside the minute you get drafted or you get
you know, you put into a building. And so particularly
I think when you play for an organization as long
as I did in Atlanta. You know, my we got
a little chipmunk running around there. You guess wildlife on this.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
We had dogs go first, We had bomb sniffing dogs
up there earlier.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Yeah, we got it all going on.
Speaker 6 (34:29):
Love it, I love it.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Yeah. We're talking to Matt Ryan. I was wondering about
Kirk Cousins in the situation that he's in now. He
said he was kind of blindsided with the whole Michael
Pennox draft pick.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
What do you do in a situation?
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Now, you can't feel sorry for him from the standpoint
of one hundred million dollars guaranteed.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Sure, but he does want to play. Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Know if he no other team was interested because of
one hundred million dollars guarantee.
Speaker 10 (34:56):
Yeah, I mean that's that is Listen, I get both
sides of it, right, I get the frustration from Kirk's end, right,
you would you would hope for transparency coming into a
situation of what the plan is moving forward? Hey, why
are you bringing me in? Is there?
Speaker 6 (35:11):
You know?
Speaker 10 (35:13):
What kind of runway are we looking at here? With
With myself, I think from the Falcons perspective, that was
such a deep draft at quarterback, you know, And I
think that as I've been removed as a player.
Speaker 6 (35:28):
My player side of me goes right to Kirk.
Speaker 10 (35:30):
Of of course, I'd be pissed too, right, you know
you're in that situation. I think that's a natural competitor's reaction,
like what are we doing? We've got other spots we
could go. You've heard other quarterbacks say that in buildings
where they've been established in their drafting. Young quarterbacks, saying
what are we doing? We can add value at different spots.
So I think Kirk coming in feeling like he had
a four or five year runway to play there and
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then them going in a different direction, it was probably
difficult is difficult for him. But I get the organization standpoint,
because I do think you know, when you look at
last year's draft, the debt of that quarterback position, and
then projecting forward right what the next two or three
drafts are going to look like, and hoping that you're
not in a position.
Speaker 6 (36:06):
To draft early.
Speaker 10 (36:08):
It's the position you've got to take care of. And
if you're defending the Falcons, which you know I'm biased
because I'm played there so long and root for them
and all those kind of things, you have to get
that position right right, and you have to get it right.
And when you've got the opportunity to acquire somebody who
I think is really talented. I think Michael Penix has
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a lot of talent, and I think he played really
well at the end of the year.
Speaker 6 (36:32):
You got to do it.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
But how did the Niners miss on trade lands? How
does that happen?
Speaker 10 (36:38):
Well, they're not the only ones I never missed on quarterback.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
When you trade up and you whiff on a guy, Yeah,
it's and I just thought he didn't have enough starts.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
I needed a larger sample size.
Speaker 10 (36:51):
What you know, you go specifically to Michael Pennix. I
think one of the things you look at when you
draft a guy like that is, yes, there were injury
concerns and me and those kind of things, but there
was there was a large body of work Indiana, right,
And I remember the old Bill Parcells. You know, the
checklist for drafting quarterbacks was three year starters and all this,
and you know, whatever the checklist was, but it was
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he wanted to sample size. And I think that's gotten
increasingly more difficult. You guys are talking about the college
football playoff coming in, but the portal, people moving around,
people getting out of there more and more. I think
it's hard to get a big sample size of quarterbacks
at this point.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
When you look at your resume, do you see Hall
of Fame.
Speaker 10 (37:32):
I've been asked this, and I don't think there's any
great way to kind of don't it. I'm proud of
what I did, you know, and it's not for me
to decide.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
But if you were going to convince me if I
were going to convince you. Let's say I'm a voter.
Speaker 6 (37:49):
The numbers are pretty good.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
Well, you got the MVP, sure, and you played in
the super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (37:56):
Yep.
Speaker 6 (37:57):
If you win, this all goes back to that side.
Speaker 10 (38:00):
It all goes back to that sack, all right, that
one sack you wanted to talk and.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
You have one of the great completions that people forget
about towards the end of that game.
Speaker 10 (38:10):
I was one half of that. The other half was
pretty good too. Jones was pretty good on the other
end of it.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
It's there's so many like plays that got forgotten in
super Bowls because you didn't win.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
Seattle who was the guy of.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
The forgotten one of the great catches in Super Bowl history?
And we're like, oh, yeah, that's right, And Julio made
that grab, and I go, he just won the super Bowl.
Speaker 10 (38:37):
That's kind of what I was thinking to myself, but.
Speaker 6 (38:41):
It didn't quite shake out that way.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
But I think you're a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
But you know, it's tricky, Like somebody says, is Russell
Wilson hall of Famer? Is Philip Rivers a Hall of Famer?
Like I would never want to vote on this because
this is you're changing lives. Sure, sure, so you got
whatever forty five guys who are in there arguing back
and forth, and then you know, you start to promote
and then you denigrate somebody and likes Russell Wilson playing
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himself out of the Hall of Fame with the way
he's played since Denver and you know now with Pittsburgh
and then New York.
Speaker 10 (39:16):
Yeah, I mean, I think you talk about his body
of work and the consistency for the better part of
a decade and what they did in Seattle. I mean, yeah,
I think there's a lot of guys that probably didn't play.
You think at Joe Amath or Johnny and Iidis in
different uniforms at the end, they're Hall of famers, right,
and they certainly didn't play themselves out of it. But
(39:37):
you know, I think when you talk about Russ there
was so much that he did and it was so
consistent for so long. To me, whether it's the Hall
of Fame discussion or whether it's players or whatever, the
thing I've always been most impressed with is guys that
do it for a long time at the same level,
over and over and over, and you can you can
kind of check mark what they're gonna do when they
(39:59):
go go out there and perform. I think that's one
of the things, regardless of sport, that I've always admired.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Well, you look at Eli. Eli's numbers are average clutch clutch. Yes, Yes,
he beat Tom Brady twice. Yes, that's why he's the
Hall of Fame.
Speaker 10 (40:17):
I'll put everybody in, man, I'll put everybody in there.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
Joe Flacco going in.
Speaker 6 (40:24):
Uh, well, I love Joe. I love Joe, but.
Speaker 10 (40:29):
And Joe is a good friend of mine. But Philip
Rivers of Fame I believe so. Yeah, I mean you
talk about is a really interesting time the league was changing, right.
You go from the mid two thousands to really twenty twenty,
and the league changed into that past first type of offense.
And you have about eight or ten guys that put
up numbers that are in the top ten of the
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history of the league during that short period of time.
I don't know if we'll see that. I don't know
if careers will go as long as they did. As
the style of course play evolves, right, and the exposure
to hits and running and and those kind of things.
And you've seen passing yards come down in the last
three or four or five years, Right, it's not. You know,
we went to the seventeenth game and you're thinking everybody's
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gonna be thrown for over.
Speaker 6 (41:13):
Five thousand yards and you just don't see it.
Speaker 10 (41:16):
And so I think the league has evolved into you know,
how they're running the football. I think it's bring those
passing numbers down. So I think the numbers, it was
an interesting time and I think there were a lot
of good, really good passers in the league at that time.
Speaker 3 (41:30):
Okay, can I make this statement, can make any statement.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
Okay, but I want to know if you agree that
Mahomes isn't the best quarterback in the NFL, but he's
the quarterback you would want in the biggest game.
Speaker 6 (41:47):
There's a lot to that statement.
Speaker 10 (41:50):
The second part, yes, right, His track record I believe
has proven that although the Super Bowl, they didn't have
their best performance this past year. But for me, you know, personally,
that doesn't change my opinion of Patrick Mahomes. Right, if
you roll out the ball in the biggest of the
big games, yeah, I think he's the guy that you're
gonna take. You know, I think, how are you pigeon
(42:15):
holing that.
Speaker 6 (42:15):
First part of the state.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
Okay, who's the best quarterback in regular season quarterback? Who
is the best quarterback in the NFL.
Speaker 10 (42:24):
That's a great question. I think you'd probably still have
to go with Patrick Mahomes. I mean, you look, you
look at what they did last year.
Speaker 3 (42:30):
See, I would say Joe Burrow.
Speaker 6 (42:32):
Joe Burrow's excellent.
Speaker 3 (42:33):
I mean Joe Burrow's he.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
Didn't everything to get them into the playoffs and could
have been an MVP candidate.
Speaker 3 (42:40):
He played that well.
Speaker 6 (42:41):
I certainly agree with you.
Speaker 3 (42:42):
I think Joe or Lamar Jackson the opinion.
Speaker 10 (42:45):
I think the league's in a great spot right now
with quarterback play, Like I really do.
Speaker 6 (42:49):
I think it's it's really good.
Speaker 10 (42:50):
But if you're asking me one regular season game, I'll
take Patrick.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
I'll take Patrick Mahomes, all right, fair enough, it's just
just an opinion. Yeah, what's your jacket size for the
Hall of Fame? Forty forty two? So I think that's
what I told him. Great to see it again, Good
to see it. He's Matt Ryan. He promised he was
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telling stories today.