July 11, 2025 • 45 mins
NBA Hall of Famer Charles Barkley joins Dan Patrick in Lake Tahoe and delivers some trademark Barkley stories from his time in the NBA, and shares why he believes coaching matters today more than ever. Rob Mac reflects on dropping his former name, Rob McElhenney, and dives into his decision to lead Wrexham with Ryan Reynolds.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
We are live at Lake Tahoe American Century Celebrity Golf
Championship getting underway today Peacock NBC Golf Channel. You can
go to Danpatrick dot com click on the toy box
link to follow along. Got tons of content there, games, interviews,
pull questions, et cetera. A couple of phone calls, and
we'll get to Charles Barkley Hunter in West Virginia, High Hunter,
(00:26):
what's on your mind?
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Good morning, Dan, I've been a hot minute. I decided
to take a little bit of time away after all
that terrible stat of the day. I will all fall out.
I'll let the pros do that from here on. But
I wanted to call in and I wanted to congratulate
you guys on the win last night. I know the
Boys and Girls Club of Milford are going to put
that twenty five thousand dollars to good use. Congratulations And
(00:50):
if Fritz he doesn't get the MVD as a result
of his per formant and gas money, oh boy, no.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
No, he's won fat He's won that four with the
most valuable and least valuable. But thanks for the phone call.
And I'm sure Fritzy will probably win both awards this year.
Charles Barkley joined us yesterday. We were waiting. You know,
usually what happens is once the show is over, we
kind of stay here on our set, and then we
wait till the golfers get done with their round or
(01:19):
they're done with the you know, being on the practice range,
and all of a sudden we looked over and here
was Charles Barkley coming up and he greeted me by saying, Dan,
you're a coward.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Dan, why don't you play in this tournament? I guess
you injured this year? Dan, this is't the best week
of a year.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
I would play if I could play with you, because
I know that I would beat you.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
Then you can't beat me.
Speaker 6 (01:43):
Now you had the worst odds to win this thing.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
I don't even understand that. I do.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
No, I don't even understand that because last year I
came in fifty eighth. So how did they have that's
thirty more people? How can they have me? Did last
I beat thirty some people last year?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
I'm all right, I'm betting on you to better your
score from last year.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
Well, they got me top sixty five, right, yeah, I'm
gonna beat that.
Speaker 6 (02:10):
I'm going under me too.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (02:11):
How much you got to bet on yourself?
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Well, last year I've had I want to bet five
hundred thousand dollars on them, and did you so?
Speaker 5 (02:22):
No, this true story.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
I placed the bet and then they tell me I
can't do it. They say it's illegal for me better myself,
I said, which is total, but yes, I might add.
I guess they knew I was gonna win, but they
told me it's illegal for you to bet on yourself.
I'm like, if I bet myself to lose, that would
be illegal.
Speaker 6 (02:43):
But boxers get to bet on themselves.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
I don't know. I think they were just full of crap.
Speaker 6 (02:47):
To be honest with you, Dan, I would have placed
the bet for you.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
I would like you to do that. So yeah, they
told me it was illegal, which I didn't understand.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Okay, so you can give me five hundred thousand, yes,
and I can bet on you.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
Yes. Let's see if they take that this year.
Speaker 6 (03:01):
And do I get a finder's fee or do I
get Did.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
You put any money in? No, you didn't put any
money in.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
So if I lose, so you gotta find an unfound fee.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
No, what's the number one question basketball wise that you'll
get out here?
Speaker 4 (03:23):
I have not. I just got in last night. I
have not been asked any basketball question yet. To be
honest with you, I have not been asked one basketball question.
I've only did probably two quick interviews nothing just the
most formal one I've done. But I have not been
asked one basketball question. But the answer your question was
(03:47):
the number one question I'm probably gonna be asked is
how close out of Rockets to the thunder And who's
going to be favored in the East, which are two
very good questions because I don't know because basketball is
not played on papers, played in the gym uh and
I have no idea who the favorite in the East.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
Did the Rockets get better?
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Probably are as good as Oklahoma City, I don't know.
But the caution with the East, I'd have to do
some serious thinking because I like the mouse turner going
with Giannis. The Knicks are gonna be solid.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
Oran. I like what Orlando did. Atlanta had a great.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Offset well, but all that stuff is just window dressing.
When that when when the basketball starts in October, that's
when it started.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
Everything looks great on paper.
Speaker 6 (04:47):
DeAndre Aiden going to the Lakers. Does that what's the
What's that solved?
Speaker 4 (04:52):
They got bigger, they got bigger, but their best second
best player is going to be forty one, forty two
years old. Can he stay healthy? Is Luca Luca gonna
be in shape? Are they better in the Rockets? Are
they better in Oklahoma City? Are they better than Denver?
(05:13):
Those are great questions. I don't just because because aiden
his track I gotta go by his track record, and
it's not a good track record. Did they needed a
big guy? But are they better in Oklahoma City, in
Houston or Denver? I would not say so.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
No.
Speaker 6 (05:31):
Do you think you know more about football than you
do basketball?
Speaker 4 (05:35):
I admire football more than I do basketball. It takes
a tremendous amount of courage to play football. I played
for one day and I realized I was a puss.
I was like, damn, they really are him?
Speaker 5 (05:50):
Not here?
Speaker 6 (05:52):
But you you were a big guy in high school.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
I wasn't that big.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
I grew from five ten to sixty five, but I
was like five ten when I played football at one day.
But even now, to go out on the football field,
you can cheat. In basketball, you don't have to play defense.
You can be a one way offensive player. You can
you know you can cheat. You cannot cheat in football
if you step on that football field. It's kind of
the same thing with boxing. The reason football and boxing
(06:17):
of my two favorite sports. It takes tremendous courage. You
cannot step on a football field if you're not all in.
You're gonna have to quit. I mean, it's just dangerous.
Same thing with boxing. You can't cheat football in boxing.
You can cheat in some other sports, but in football,
in boxing you have to be all in.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
I think best athletes are hockey players to do it
on the ice well with the sticks. They get to
hit you with the sticks.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Well, I would love to beat the hell out of
some people and only get and only get punished for
two minutes.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
Can you imagine that you get to.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Knock the hell out of somebody and only get punished
for two minutes. That would be a That'd be like
a dream come true.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Okay, how many players would you looking back like to
have that I get to beat you up and I
am only out two minutes for roughing Bill.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
Mbiert, mL Car.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Papaeae Jones because Papa Jones is the one player who
dominated me every time I played against him, I would
love to just knock the hell out of him for
two minutes.
Speaker 6 (07:22):
But when you see Lambert, you're good.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
We're good, you know, dude, all this stuff should be good. Dude,
he's sixty year old. If you're sixty years old and
still fighting, you a punk. Anybody who's still fighting is sixty.
Anybody who's fighting past twenty five.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
Is a punk.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
If you're a grown person, you know you young and
dumbance too, butid you get in a fight every now
and then. But once you're a grown person, you shouldn't
be fighting. Anybody fighting once you pass thirty is just
a loser. You see these videos with people out here fighting,
You say to yourself, what a damn food?
Speaker 5 (07:54):
What an idiot?
Speaker 6 (07:56):
Where would you be if you didn't play basketball?
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Wow, that's a great question. I believe my work ethic
would make me successful. But I don't know because I've
never did anything but basketball. But I believe my work
ethic in basketball help me be successful. You got to
(08:20):
have more than talent to be successful. But I probably
would be like a regular worker, like in a factory somewhere,
because nobody's gonna ever has going to say I didn't
work hard, but I wasn't going to be overly smart.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
I'm not going to tell that.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Lie, but I think I would have been successful as
something probably better have been factory related.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
But okay, when do you get that personality? When do
you realize you have personality?
Speaker 5 (08:51):
When?
Speaker 6 (08:51):
When? When can you entertain? When can you make people laugh?
Speaker 5 (08:56):
Well?
Speaker 6 (08:56):
That should be easy, but you were in high school,
in college.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
No not.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
It didn't happen till I got to the NBA once
I realized I'd made it. See, your life happiness should
be dictated by how good your life is. Like Dan,
anybody who played sports should be the happiest person in
the world. You think about it. We get paid a
gazillion dollars to do something that's stupid. Think about it.
(09:23):
And I'm not saying that to be humbled over. Like
I was sitting there when I first started making my Like,
these people paying me millions of dollars to dribble a
stupid ass basketball. They're paying me the millions of dollars
to wear shoes. I should always be in a good mood,
and I really live my life. People say, man, you're
always in a good mood. I said, why will not
(09:45):
be in a good mood like every NBA player to
be like, man, these people are paying me millions of
dollars to dribble a stupid ball. Like my first contract
was four years, two million dollars. I was number five
picking the draft. That guy today is probably gonna get
a four year deal for thirty forty million. He should
(10:07):
be happy from day one. I was happy from day one.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
So my song where Devin Booker got to your extension.
He's gonna get over se seventy million dollars a year.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
He should be the happiest person. He should go around.
He should just go around shaking people hands. Nobody plays
for the Suns. How happy can he be? Well, he's
gonna be happy twice a day, twice a month. The
first out of fifteenth, Hey, the first un of fifteenth.
He's gonna be real damn happy. You know, God blessed
these guys for how much.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
Money they make. I made more money than Doctor.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
J and Bill rusting those guys. But these guys should
all be in a good mood. Dan, I mean, think
about Devin Buker, who's a hell of a player, gonna
make seventy million dollars to dribble a stupid basketball. Why
shouldn't he be in a good mood? He's the luckiest
dude in the world. I mean all these dudes I
saw Cheded Holgan got two hundred some million. She just
(10:56):
got three hundred million. Why wouldn't you be in a
good mood? You work six seven months a year, you
get two three hundred dollars a day per diem. You
stay at the risk cause into four seasons you work
a couple hours a day, four days a week.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
What you're not happy.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
About keeping that good mood? We'll continue with Charles Barkley
right after this.
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Speaker 2 (12:14):
We spent some time yesterday with Charles Barkley. We gave
you part one, then we went to commercial break and
we promised part two. And I started out by asking
Charles Barkley how easy it was to get in trouble
on the road when he was playing.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
It's very easy to get in trouble. You got drugs,
you got alcohol, you got women, troubles. Troubles are always
there at trouble. Then you have to go on the
road to get in trouble.
Speaker 6 (12:41):
It's at home too, But who helps you navigate that
when you get to the NBA, because you.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
Know how it helps you navigate. You got to surround yourself.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
The first thing you gotta do is get rid of
your family and friends because they're the biggest freeloaders and
they'll never tell you no. They'll use up all your
money too, and they won't tell you no. You got
to surround yourself with a few people who number one
will tell you no, tell you how to invest your money,
how to save your money, tell you, hey, you had
(13:10):
too much to drink. I don't think we should be
doing this pot, cocaine, all these drugs. That's the hardest
thing surrounding yourself with people, because these kids got the
same stuff. They they just got more of it and
they got more money. But you got There's women, there's alcohol,
(13:33):
there's drugs. There that's everywhere, whether you at home or
on the road. And sometimes they can all get you
in trouble if you don't control them, and they're readily
available depending on how much money you got.
Speaker 6 (13:47):
Well, how did you not get in trouble?
Speaker 4 (13:48):
Or I've done stupid things. I never got into the
drug thing.
Speaker 6 (13:52):
You'd smoked pot before.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Yeah, five times. I don't understand it. You know, my
friends keep trying to get me to smoke pot. I
don't smoke pot, like five times. It just makes me
want potato chips. It doesn't do anything for me. Dan
and my friends love it, and I say, oh, y'all
can do it. I'm just not gonna do it. But
pot does nothing for me. I just don't understand it
(14:13):
I've wanted. I said, I think I've done it maybe
four or five times at the boast and they're like,
you gotta try this, this whatever, and I'm like, yeah,
where are laced potato chips and prinkles at? But I've
never gotten involved with drugs. I probably did some stupid
stuff with women, for sure, But man, it's it's there
(14:34):
if you want it.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
But also when you when you think about it, if
you go to a team, a bad team or a
team that that's the culture.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
Yeah, but every guy's not involved in the culture. Like
there's guys what guys on teams I've been on, they
like to do drugs. You don't have to hang out
with those guys, but inn bot mine. You got to
make your own decisions. I chose not to do drugs.
I didn't judge other guys who did drugs. That's them.
Speaker 5 (14:59):
That's I.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
Probably drank too much because I like to drink. But
I think the biggest thing you need to be a
great players have a good coaching staff. That's probably the
most important thing, the coaching staff. I think more players
get ruined by bad coaching staffs because the coaches are cowards.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
They're scared of.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
The coach like I wanted a pat Riley. I had
a great coach, Billy Cunningham or Greg Popovich. But most
of these coaches today they're cowards because the players make
so much money. They don't have money control. The players
run the team and the coach needs to realize that
player gonna get him fired. But we have taken the
power from the coaches away because the players make so
(15:42):
much money. But I say bad coaches have ruined more
players than anything in the NBA.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
I was wondering this question if this would be asked
on Lebron's podcast, and tell me how you would interpret this.
Let's say Steve Nash says to Kevin Durant, Lebron is there,
and he says, do you think you're better than Lebron?
Do you think it's a fair question to ask kd?
(16:10):
And what do you think kat would say?
Speaker 4 (16:12):
Well, I think all questions are fair. You had a
right to answer them. I think Katie his answer should
be yes, you got to always thank you. You can't
be a great player if you think other players a venue,
they're gonna have to prove they're better than you do.
I think kat is as good as le bron I
do not because I don't think you have his leadership qualities.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
But that's a fair question. But I answer should be yes.
Speaker 6 (16:37):
But did you think you were better?
Speaker 5 (16:39):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (16:39):
Yes, yes? Did you think you were better than Jordan's Yes?
Was there anybody you didn't think you were better than.
Speaker 8 (16:49):
Dan?
Speaker 4 (16:49):
Let me tell you this, and I've talked about this
public before. I did not think Michael Jores betting means
that he beat me in the finals because when I
got when I was in Philly, we actually had success
against them, and then they got good and then they
beat us in the playoffs one year. But I thought
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of just because he had some better players around him.
When I got traded to Phoenix, I says, Chuck Daly
had told me. He says, you're the second best player
in the world. I said, I'm the best player in
the world. He says, no, that guy right over there's
the best player in the world. I said, well, I'm
gona prove it to your ass this year when we
played them in the finals, he says. Chuck says, I
(17:33):
didn't realize how great you were except getting to watch
you play every day, how easy the game is for
you. You can play with anybody this is doing the Dream
Team practice and I said, I said, Chuck, I'm the
best player in the world. I'm gonna prove it to you.
I said, We're going to play the Bulls in the finals.
And I remember telling the guys that going into training camp.
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I said, we're going to play the Bulls in the finals.
How you know that, I said, because I'm the best
damn player in the world, and I'm gonna prove it.
I said, We're gonna play the Bulls. I'm gonna prove
I'm a best player in the world. And I remember
going home after Game two. My daughter was upset, crying
because we lost the first two games. I says, hey,
(18:16):
just relax, We're gonna be fine. I said, but I
gotta tear something. I ain't never said this in my life.
I think that guy might be better at basketball than
I am. And I said, but I think I'm better
and we'll be fine. Then we win game three, lose
Game four, win game five, come back home for Game six,
and my daughter say, I told you I think I'm
(18:38):
the best player in the world.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
I'm gonna prove it. And then they beat us.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
I remember telling her, I says, I ain't never said
this se before, that guy's better at basketball than me.
And that's the first time I'd ever because it's a
team game. But once I got Damn Marlin Kevin Johnson,
I said, we can beat anybody. We can beat anybody.
But yeah, I thought Michael Jordan was a better player
to me. That's the only player I've played against I
thought was better than me. Magic Magic had James Worth
(19:04):
and Kareem and Magic is great. You know, we owe
all our success in the NBA to Larry Bird and
Magic Johnson. They're the two most important people in the
NBA history. That the reason the NBA makes some money today.
Obviously Michael took it to a whole another level, but
it won for Magic Johnson Larr Bird. The NBA wouldn't
be what it was today, plain and simple.
Speaker 6 (19:22):
What if Bird doesn't introduce back.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
Well, we stid one of the greatest players ever.
Speaker 6 (19:27):
I mean, you know, is this a what was it
a ten year career?
Speaker 4 (19:32):
I think it was more than that, But you have
to factor end though then the physicality of the game.
We all had to go to college for three and
four years. You know, these guys number one, bless these
guys they make a deal how long they play Number one?
They never went to college. And also there's no physicality.
You have to factor in these guys played. I played
(19:52):
three years of college. I think Bird played four years
of college. Michael played three years of college. Tim Duncan
played four years of college. David Robinson played four years
of college. So you guys talk about all these guys
they like, I say, and listen, it's a different game
now because no physicality. But you have to factor in
all the years some of these guys lost going to college.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
And I think Bird went to college.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
I mean you went to two or three schools I
remember correct before he went to in down the state.
Uh because uh, but so but bird Man, he was amazing.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
It feels like there's all there's probably more stories about
Bird that are told than any other player because he
was the.
Speaker 5 (20:33):
Best stress talker ever, you know.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
So, So Leon Wood was one of my teammates, and
we're sitting in the locker room getting ready for the
three point shooting contests, and I was kind of just
talking to Leon trying to calm him down and good,
all these three point shooters in there. Bard comes in
and says, which, why are you gonna come in second place? Like,
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which one of you gonna come in second place? So
first words through the door? Which one of you gonna
come in second place?
Speaker 7 (21:11):
Dan?
Speaker 6 (21:14):
It was over.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
I'm sitting around. Nobody said nothing. It was one of
the best scenes. I was like, I'm looking around. I'm
not in the contest, so I can't say anything. Nobody
said a word, and I said, man, I wish we
had casinos. We could bet on them collaborry gonna win
(21:37):
this three point shooting contest.
Speaker 5 (21:39):
Because nobody said a thing. I mean, I was like,
this thing is over. This is a rap.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
Did Larry and Doctor j Ever talk about that fight
that they had?
Speaker 4 (21:50):
So I'm still mad that the NBA found me. Yeah,
you were holding I wouldn't up see. I grabbed him
to break it up. I didn't know Doc was punching him.
I just remember Bert Chuck, y'all better get this old
man of me. Wait are you saying about doctor Jakes?
Speaker 5 (22:09):
Yeah, Chuck.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
Killing him too, y'oll man, y'all better get this old
man off me. He says just five, six, seven times.
Doc is grinding now trying to stop him.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
He and very rolling. I'm gonna kill this old man
if y'all don't get him off me.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
And next thing I know, Doc just snaps, and I
just grabbed Bird. And I'm still mad. I'm telling you
the NBA find me for a whole I said, first
of all, I would never hold somebody. That's somebody I
didn't know. I just tried to break it up. I
didn't know Doc was punching it. But man, after he
said about the fifth or sixth time about get this
old man off me, Doc just snapped.
Speaker 6 (22:55):
So Larry's taking it to doctor Jack.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
This might be Doc's last year. He was one of
his last couple of may been this last year. And
Bird just killing him and talking trash the whole time,
and boy, dog just snapped.
Speaker 6 (23:08):
Did they ever talk about this?
Speaker 5 (23:10):
No, no, nothing to talk about it.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
I don't know if Larry would ever say, you know what, No,
I'm sorry. I shouldn't know.
Speaker 6 (23:23):
Manny I know, but there's doctor j He's royalty.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
Let me tell you something, treat him, let me tell
you something about this. Let me tell you something about
the Sickers and the Celtics. My first experience. So you know,
these old Vets, Doc Bobby Jones, rescheeks Moses, they don't
care about the preseason. It's just like so basically a
glorified scrimmage. So we played like the first four or
(23:48):
five games. We go to play the Celtics, guys, is
goofing around the first four or five exhibition games. That's
not a I don't go out on. I pulled Andrew
Tony aside. I says, is somebody sick or heard or something.
(24:09):
He says, it's the Celtics, And I said what he says,
it's the Celtics. The preseason, preseason, every time we played
to Celtics, it was a different vibe. Anytime we played
the Lakers, it was different because Moses was going to
try to kill Kareem because Kareem was and Moses did.
(24:30):
Moses thought he never got his just do it. I
don't believe he got it either. But when we played
to Celtics man regular season playoffs, it was a different
vibe in the building.
Speaker 6 (24:41):
It was it was it's great to see you, hey man,
good luck.
Speaker 5 (24:46):
Hey I'm proud of you.
Speaker 7 (24:48):
Dan.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
You know your career. To have a career as long
as you've had it, you have to be talented, number one.
You have to have a great work ethic, and people.
Speaker 5 (24:58):
Have to like you. How many years you've been doing
this now?
Speaker 6 (25:03):
Probably forty? Amy? Man, you like me?
Speaker 5 (25:06):
Man, You're gonna go your whole life without working. I'm
on a six.
Speaker 6 (25:10):
I work. Listen to the guys I'm with this. No,
I work.
Speaker 5 (25:13):
It's like stealing Dan.
Speaker 6 (25:14):
This is work.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
It's like stealing.
Speaker 6 (25:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
This isn't exactly your Phoenix Suns team. This is my
Philadelphia team, the team you wanted out.
Speaker 6 (25:26):
That's right this.
Speaker 5 (25:28):
Yeah, Oh you know it's so funny.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
Jimmy Line and one of my favorite people, one of
my Billy conn is my best coach I've ever had.
Two of my favorites are Rudy Tom Jonovitch and Jim Line.
We're playing the Selfs in the playoffs, I says, Jim.
Look out there right before a tip off. That's Bert
mckel in Parish. I got Shelton Jones.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
I'm a new He says, good luck. I love Jill.
Every time I see.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Him, he says good luck, good luck, And I'll leave
you with that. Hey guy, thanks for having brother. Thank
you man, all right, thank you Charles. Uh he's great.
Speaker 6 (26:11):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
He gave us, you know, half hour of his time.
Busy day pulled in a lot of different directions, but
I do love that. You know, when people say he
forced his way out of Philadelphia to Phoenix, well look
at who he had. He had his front line didn't
exactly match up with the Boston Celtics there with Bird,
McHale and Parish. And even when Charles finished hit the conversation,
(26:34):
the interview, he's still telling us that story as he's
walking off our stage here and he's like, damn if
they had Bird, McHale and Parish, I had minute and
Shelton Shelton Jones. I went wait, Shelton Jones, he went
to Saint John's. He's like, yeah, that Shelton Jones.
Speaker 9 (26:51):
Yeah, Marvin Shelton Jones played one year in the NBA
in the in the nineteen eighty eight season for the
Philadelphia seventy six years.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Yeah, but he was there with Charles against Bird, McHale
and Parrish. Even that conversation where he's talking about Bird
trash talking doctor J. And this is late in Doc's
career and Larry's, you know, tearing him up, and that's
when he kept saying to Charles, he was talking about
doctor J. And then doctor J had had enough grabs
(27:22):
Bird by the throat and Charles grabs Larry, not realizing
that Doctor J is pounding Larry. I was like, oh
my god, Alex Caruso of the Oklahoma City Thunder will
stop by and the great comedian Nate Bergetzi will join us.
Speaker 6 (27:40):
Says, well, yes see, I got a big problem with
the way Larry Bird treated Doctor J.
Speaker 5 (27:44):
I do too.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
I got a big problem with that. But that's what
I was saying to Charles. I mean calling him an
old man. I mean I understand Larry that, you know.
Speaker 6 (27:54):
With trash talking. That's doctor J.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
I feel like the entire Sixers team should have punched
Larry in your face, not just Doctor Jay.
Speaker 6 (28:01):
Everybody should have punched him in the page. I'll talk
to him like that. That's wrong with you.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
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Speaker 6 (28:17):
On this Friday, it's a meat Friday.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
At that.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
We got chopped brisket, we got barbecue chicken, we got
potato salad, baked beans. Who is it better than we do?
Speaker 5 (28:26):
No?
Speaker 6 (28:27):
All right, So we're a Dan atte.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Down Fritzy flew back from London, and I think he
got back in time to watch the celebrity family feud.
He's going to join us coming up at I don't know,
twenty after or so, and he can take a victory
lap with how he performed all of the dan Neutes.
Everybody performed well and we're able to talk about it
now because we dominated the Rich Eisen show. I did
(28:51):
ask if somebody could go see if rich Eisen, who
was here playing.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
As a journalist.
Speaker 6 (28:58):
I am a journalist.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
You got to cover the story.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
I said, could somebody go over and ask rich Eason
if he would like to join us on the program.
That's all Sir Ray says, no, okay, but I want
to he can give his side to this. I want
to let him have his opportunity to talk about this. Yes, Paula,
Before you bring in Rob, I just want to say
some people on the internets are asking about the possibility
(29:21):
of a celebrity family.
Speaker 6 (29:23):
Feud remat No, I'm a one and Donner.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
We have nothing les Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
We dominated and we move on. I yeah, I mean
he might want to to save face. I don't know
if he'll ever recover from this. But uh, you know,
let's see if he wants to join us here on
the program, all right, each seven seven three DP show
email address Dpadanpatrick dot com. He's Rob Mack, the actor, comedian,
part owner of Wrexham, always sonny in Philadelphia, always sunny disposition,
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and a celebrity who doesn't lie because yesterday I said, Rob,
do you want to join us on the show? And
he goes, I can't today, but I'll join you tomorrow.
Do you look like a celebrity though?
Speaker 9 (30:04):
Thank you? I think it's the sunglass. Yes it is,
I'll take off.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
Now, Yes it is.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Okay, explain the rebrand here of you go from Rob
mackelhany yes to Rob.
Speaker 6 (30:15):
Mac And how much thought went behind this?
Speaker 2 (30:17):
If you want to pull that microphone up a little
bit too, so, how much thought goes into a what
I guess is a rebrand, A.
Speaker 8 (30:24):
Tremendous amount of thought over the last twenty years. But
I think the thing that really put it over the
edge was, you know, I'm very proud of my name.
I'm proud of my heritage, I'm proud of my family.
Speaker 9 (30:35):
And I never wanted to change my name.
Speaker 8 (30:37):
And I was asked many times coming into the entertainment business,
just because there's so many syllables and it's not quite
as sticky, and I always said no for that reason.
Speaker 9 (30:46):
And then I did a full family tree earlier this
year and found out that our name has.
Speaker 8 (30:51):
Changed seven or eight times over the last one hundred years,
including when we first came over.
Speaker 9 (30:56):
My great great grandfather they just changed his name.
Speaker 6 (30:59):
Was it old macilhany.
Speaker 8 (31:01):
It was in the vein, there was a lot, there
was an O at one point, it was McIlhenny, it
was mccull lugod and me at some point. And I thought,
it's kind of amazing that someone put a stamp on
m c E l h E and e y and said, yeah, that's.
Speaker 9 (31:15):
The easy one.
Speaker 5 (31:17):
Go with that, Go with that.
Speaker 6 (31:20):
What did your wife say, Well, she goes.
Speaker 8 (31:22):
By Kaitlyn Olsen, so she's okay with that. I called
my my my father, of course, had a very long
conversation with him. His first question was he said, son,
I love you, I will support you in whatever what
you want to do.
Speaker 9 (31:33):
Are you having a midlife crisis?
Speaker 8 (31:35):
I said, well yes, he said, just buy a car,
but no, he said, you know you're It was really
important to me, for because of my grandfather, my grandfather
and my grandmother who we're very close to, the Paytrarch
and Maytrarch of our of our family.
Speaker 9 (31:51):
And I said, what do you think grandm Pop would think?
Speaker 8 (31:53):
And he said, well, Pop would have loved that if
some government official decided to change your name, that you
change it back to something.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
That you wanted.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Okay, but you know what's gonna happen. This is like
X with Twitter that they have to say X formally
known as Twitter. It's Rob Mac formally known as Rob macklaheney.
Speaker 9 (32:13):
It's easier than prince right, because what was that?
Speaker 8 (32:16):
He was, Yeah, at the end of the day, I
actually I already it's only been a couple of weeks
and it's already easier. You walk into a room just
right here the edge what hotel? They said, name, sir,
I said Rob Mac. They didn't say excuse me, They said,
oh okay, I said RB m Ac and that was it.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
So you have all this free time of Rob Mac
and then you don't have the old Haney. That's right
once again, and you're signing things, so it's easier to
sign Rob mack.
Speaker 5 (32:43):
Here.
Speaker 9 (32:43):
My signature was just sort of r M and then
a bunch of squiggly lines.
Speaker 8 (32:46):
So I don't know if it'll make that much of
a difference, but I can say that it's also an
opportunity to shed one's skin and try something new.
Speaker 9 (32:54):
I've always liked to change will and.
Speaker 8 (32:56):
I've always been a terrible golfer, So I feel like
Rob mcklehenney is a terrible offer.
Speaker 9 (33:00):
But Rob mack is going to make a statement this year.
Speaker 6 (33:02):
Is Ryan Reynolds going to change his last night?
Speaker 9 (33:05):
I don't know. I mean, that's the thing.
Speaker 8 (33:06):
It's if your if your last name is Reynolds or Patrick,
you don't know. You don't really understand what it's like.
And again, it's not that big of a deal. There's
so much going on in the world. Who really cares,
But the amount of time one has to spend negotiating
and navigating the spelling or pronunciation of one's name, when,
especially as our business expands into Latin America and in
(33:28):
other parts of the world, I just figured it'd be
easier for everybody else just to say.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Mac Wrexham, you and Ryan done a great job there,
congratulations on promotion.
Speaker 6 (33:39):
Thank you. How close was this to not happening.
Speaker 9 (33:44):
Never not, you mean the promotion or the whole whole project,
of the whole project. Oh no, it was going to happen.
Speaker 8 (33:50):
In fact, I went back and and I found the
original email that I set to him where I laid
out the idea and what what I what I wanted
to do, And originally I was going to do it
on my own and ask Ryan if he wanted to
be a sponsor Aviation jen is the front of kit sponsor.
The more I thought about it, the more I realized, Wow,
he's such an entrepreneur, he's globally famous.
Speaker 9 (34:11):
Whatever he touches seems to turn to gold.
Speaker 8 (34:13):
If I could potentially include him as a partner, that
this could take this thing to the stratosphere. And I
remember asking my wife about it, and I said, Kaitlin,
what do you think about me asking Ryan to be
a full partner on this? And she said, I don't know.
I guess it depends on whether your ego can take
sharing the screen with Ryan Reynolds.
Speaker 6 (34:29):
Wow.
Speaker 9 (34:30):
Yeah, And I said, a good point. That's a good point, But.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
I would you know, they don't want posers over there,
and we've seen so many US billionaires. They want to
invest in the Premier League and you know there's that
pushback reaction. How much of that did you get from Wrexham?
That wait a minute, what do you guys know about soccer?
Speaker 6 (34:50):
And what are you going to do?
Speaker 8 (34:51):
That's right, and that's why we were honest from the
very beginning, and we went in with our hearts on
our sleeves and said we don't know anything about football.
Speaker 9 (34:57):
And I didn't say soccer. I said football. Now for
the sake of this conversation, it will be easier to
call it soccer, and so I'll just I'll do so.
But I just want to put an astix on that
we just went in and.
Speaker 8 (35:08):
Said, we don't know anything about soccer, and have you
become a soccer snot? No, No, honestly, I'd become a
soccer fan. I was not even a fan of the
beautiful game up until five years ago, and now I'm
I'm horrifically addicted.
Speaker 5 (35:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
But if you if you could say success for Wrexham
or success for always Sonny, what.
Speaker 8 (35:30):
You mean if I had a time machine, because it's
hard to I mean I would need a Dolorean to
go back, But.
Speaker 9 (35:35):
You mean from this point forward?
Speaker 5 (35:36):
Yeah, it's not.
Speaker 8 (35:37):
He's had a great run. We're in season seventeen. We
just debuted season seventeen, over twenty twenty years.
Speaker 9 (35:43):
Yeah, that's why.
Speaker 6 (35:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (35:46):
Well, you know, I remember meeting you probably about a
decade ago, and I said something to you a phrase,
and I remember you saying, Wow, that is both inspiring
and crushing, and that phrase was I grew up watching you.
And now I hear a lot of people say that
to me. Oh, guys in their thirties and women in
their mid thirties. Thing, I grew up watching you, And
(36:08):
there's nothing that you described it perfectly. It is really
inspiring and sweet to hear, and it's crushing because it means.
Speaker 9 (36:14):
You're so old.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Yeah, you do feel that, like you get to a
certain point where somebody said, and the legendary. You know,
you can't mean legendary when you're in your twenties. Yes,
you got to be in your sixties to become legendary.
Speaker 9 (36:28):
But Danny, I'll give you a great example.
Speaker 8 (36:30):
Danny DeVito turns down lifetime Achievement awards all the time.
And I asked them, you know, this was like maybe
five years ago, Hey, why do you keep turning these things?
Speaker 2 (36:38):
Down.
Speaker 8 (36:38):
They seem like great honors, And he said, because it's
basically a ticket to to the funeral home. They're saying, hey, great,
that that was a great career bye.
Speaker 6 (36:47):
And I feel the same way.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Yeah, I truly if they gave me a lifetime sports Emmy, like,
I wouldn't want to do it because there's still part
of me that's like very competitive. I mean, I expect
a time sportsman. I'm just saying, yes, I sort of
an honorable Maybe it could be a posthumous like I'm
fine with that. But how do you sell Danny DeVito
on this concept.
Speaker 8 (37:10):
Well, we had the luxury of already having shot one
season of the show without him. Now nobody watched it,
but we had seven episodes of that series, and I
remember going to his house because we needed to bring
on somebody that had a little weight, somebody that was
famous so that we could use it for marketing, and
Danny's name came up and he just seemed like a
(37:31):
perfect fit. So I remember I went over to his
house and rang the doorbell and his daughter, who at
the time was probably nineteen or twenty years old, she
answers the door and she says, oh, hi, my name's Lucy.
Speaker 9 (37:43):
I just want to tell you I'm such a massive
fan of your show, and I knew from that point forward.
I walked in through the threshold and was like, we
got this guy, We got this guy.
Speaker 6 (37:51):
Was there an episode that maybe you shouldn't have airred?
Speaker 8 (37:55):
Oh yeah, Hi, there's episodes that got pulled from there
that are no longer in searchation. Okay, yeah, sactic, I'm
happy to discuss them. I mean, it's it's satire. So
one of the benefits of satire is that you get
to sort of wield a very sharp look at culture,
(38:17):
and that's what we do, very specifically Western culture, very
specifically the hypocrisy of Western culture across the socio political
and economic divides, and and and in doing so, you're
gonna push the boundaries of what is considered good taste
at any given moment. And so at the time when
something you're making something and something airs, it speaks to
(38:38):
the to its time.
Speaker 9 (38:39):
But when something then.
Speaker 8 (38:41):
Goes years and engineers time, the time has changed and
it doesn't necessarily age. And I always feel like, well,
look that's where I was at the time, that's where
the show was at the time. I feel like erasing
that as if it didn't exist suggests that it never happened,
and I feel like that's a scary way to to
look at the present in the future.
Speaker 5 (39:00):
How good a.
Speaker 6 (39:00):
Golfer are you?
Speaker 5 (39:01):
Oh? Terrible? Okay?
Speaker 6 (39:02):
Like like, are you Barkley bad?
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Oh?
Speaker 9 (39:04):
I'm worse than Barkley?
Speaker 5 (39:06):
Where I was?
Speaker 2 (39:06):
I was?
Speaker 8 (39:07):
I can tell you, I can tell you how I
feel versus what the reality is. I feel like I'm
a great golfer, and that's part of the problem. So
there's no reality play, thank you. Yeah, I'm not an
I am not an athlete, not in any way.
Speaker 9 (39:19):
I no, No, That's why I went to the arts.
All my friends were playing sports.
Speaker 8 (39:24):
It's an all boys Catholic school, and the girls schools
needed boys for their plays, and I was like, well,
I'm getting cut from every team.
Speaker 9 (39:30):
I might as well go and meet a bunch of
girls and.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
Get for the place, right, you know what, Given looking back,
I should have been in choir and maybe banned and
done you know plays.
Speaker 9 (39:43):
Yeah, it worked out for you, It worked out pretty well.
Speaker 8 (39:46):
But as far as these events go, it's really fun
to test your metal against professional athletes because it's really golf.
The sport itself is so humbling, and it is a
game that takes practice, and it's so look, ultimately, it's
so stupid.
Speaker 9 (40:01):
You're just trying to get a little ball in a
whole four hundred yards away.
Speaker 8 (40:04):
So why do people love it? Why do people come
become so addicted to it? Especially high achieving of people.
And I think it's just the meditative practice of recognizing
how silly something is. But the more work you put
into it, the hopefully the better you get. And I
think there's just something very profound about.
Speaker 6 (40:22):
That Eagles fan playing with Aaron Rodgers today. Correct, Yeah,
that's right, all right, how's that going to go?
Speaker 9 (40:28):
Well, we won the Super Bowl, and when I say we,
I mean the Philadelphia Eagle is not me. I think
it's gonna go gread.
Speaker 8 (40:34):
I've never I've never met Aaron aside from shaking hands
with him, So we'll see how his game is.
Speaker 9 (40:39):
I here is pretty good. Yeah, well my score last
year was negative thirty six.
Speaker 8 (40:45):
Now, anybody who watches golf sees negative thirty six and says.
Speaker 9 (40:49):
Wow, that's a great score.
Speaker 8 (40:51):
Yeah, but they're not realizing that it's a different scoring
The scoring system is a little bit different. Yeah, negative
thirty six means there was a lot of double bogies
out there. So the way I'm looking at it is,
I don't need to beat Aaron Rodgers. I don't need
to beat Charles Barkley. I just need to beat Rob mclehenny,
who was negative thirty six. So if I can beat
Rob Mack, if Rob Mac could beat Rob mclhenny, then
(41:13):
I'll feel good.
Speaker 6 (41:13):
It is that the first third person use of your name.
Speaker 8 (41:17):
Yeah, I mean, it's gonna be insufferable, trust me, true,
I'm gonna be in no.
Speaker 9 (41:22):
I I recognize how silly and ridiculous it is. And
so even this morning I.
Speaker 8 (41:25):
Saw on the X account, not the Twitter account, that
you guys announced me as Rob mclehenny, and I laughed
and thought, well, of course, of course they did, like
it's going to be a process, and still at the
end of the day there are bigger things going on
in the world.
Speaker 9 (41:39):
Who really cares? And I just laughed and figured this
would be about that.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
If I say Rob Mac, then people won't know that, Yeah,
that's right, But then you got to go Rob Mac
always sunny Wreckham, you know, and then they get that.
Speaker 8 (41:52):
Luckily, my character's name on the thing I'm most known
for is Mac, so that's very very helpful.
Speaker 9 (41:59):
My grandfather's nickname was Mac.
Speaker 8 (42:00):
Everybody called him Mac up until all through high school,
I was known as Mac, and then I stopped going
by that because my character is such a horrific human
on our show that I didn't want to go by that.
Speaker 9 (42:12):
As a as a as a nickname. But now I'm
taking it.
Speaker 6 (42:14):
But but how much fun is it to play a
bad guy?
Speaker 5 (42:17):
The best?
Speaker 9 (42:18):
It's the best?
Speaker 2 (42:19):
Could you envision being like, you know, Jim Parsons with
Big Bang Theory, where everything is just you know, I know,
just kind of floating along.
Speaker 9 (42:29):
Yeah, I don't know, I gravitate a good person. Yeah,
that's so boring.
Speaker 8 (42:35):
Well, in fact, I'm I'm making I'm developing two separate
shows right now, both completely different from from Sonny, not
very much, not different from tonally from Welcome to Wrexham
just as far as they're more dramatic.
Speaker 5 (42:48):
Ones.
Speaker 8 (42:49):
Both are crime dramas. One I played the good guy
and one I played the bad guy. So it's really
fun to sit down and think of myself and and
and sort of bifurcate the way I press.
Speaker 6 (43:00):
He's throwing out some big words today.
Speaker 9 (43:01):
I'm gonna I mean, well, I'm not doing it on purpose.
They're just I told you that I'm in.
Speaker 4 (43:09):
This is in?
Speaker 5 (43:10):
What can I curse on this? What do you?
Speaker 6 (43:14):
Why do you need to curse?
Speaker 9 (43:15):
Well, because you can't.
Speaker 6 (43:17):
I you can't F word?
Speaker 9 (43:19):
But I sound like a dickhead?
Speaker 5 (43:20):
You can I say that?
Speaker 9 (43:23):
I just get yeah, okay, I can say it once. Okay,
that's I'm not trying Dan.
Speaker 6 (43:27):
But it like Ryan Reynolds can get away with this.
Speaker 9 (43:31):
Yeah, he's such a nice because he didn't change his name, right,
He's such.
Speaker 8 (43:35):
Ryan can get away with pretty much anything because he's
such a genuinely kind, nice person.
Speaker 9 (43:41):
But also he's just so.
Speaker 6 (43:42):
I think he could be a good actor too.
Speaker 9 (43:44):
He's a pretty good he's a pretty good actor.
Speaker 6 (43:47):
Does your wife say he's hot?
Speaker 9 (43:49):
She would say he is very attractive?
Speaker 6 (43:52):
Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah hot?
Speaker 8 (43:55):
The word hot, I would say, she she saves that,
But you don't hurts Jalen hurts hot hot?
Speaker 9 (44:02):
Okay, Tom Hardy the actor, Oh look at this little guy.
I know, we get a camera and we got a
little chip chip.
Speaker 6 (44:08):
Did somebody just say by frigate? So okay, we've established
that Ryan is hot.
Speaker 9 (44:18):
Yeah, well, Ryan's also forty eight years old.
Speaker 8 (44:21):
I think it's the young professional athletes that the ladies
are going for these days, some of the actors.
Speaker 6 (44:26):
Sure, okay, all right, well I think we've accomplied. Did
we accomplish anything here?
Speaker 8 (44:32):
I feel like we've exhausted the audience's desire to see
me or hear me on the show.
Speaker 5 (44:38):
What do you think? I don't know.
Speaker 6 (44:40):
Do you think that he's exhausted his were welcome now?
Speaker 3 (44:43):
He always I think Rob mack is welcome back anytime.
Speaker 6 (44:47):
Rob mclanny.
Speaker 5 (44:48):
That's he's gone.
Speaker 6 (44:49):
Yeah, he's gone. Nobody likes him.
Speaker 9 (44:51):
Well, see right there, we bifurcated there.
Speaker 6 (44:58):
Thank you for stopping.
Speaker 5 (44:58):
Thank you. I really agree.
Speaker 9 (45:00):
I'm a big fan. And you know what, I grew
up watching you from the time I was a little
kid up all the way up in conn.
Speaker 6 (45:08):
That's inspiring.
Speaker 8 (45:09):
And I said it to you and and I meant
it at the time, and I still mean it, and
it's been You have been a massive inspiration, uh for me,
and and for the way that we approach everything.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
And I truly remember well when I went and met
with you and I was pitching an idea, and you
were very enthusiastic.
Speaker 6 (45:25):
I mean it obviously it didn't work out.
Speaker 9 (45:28):
Because you took it somewhere else. Just to be clear,
he had the choice, he took it somewhere else.
Speaker 5 (45:33):
That's that.
Speaker 8 (45:34):
We'll do that in a different episode. I don't hold
it against you, and I don't hold a Rob Macklheady
a whole drive.
Speaker 5 (45:42):
Dickhead.
Speaker 9 (45:46):
Thank you, buddy, Thank you.
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what's on your mind?
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Good morning, Dan, I've been a hot minute. I decided
to take a little bit of time away after all
that terrible stat of the day. I will all fall out.
I'll let the pros do that from here on. But
I wanted to call in and I wanted to congratulate
you guys on the win last night. I know the
Boys and Girls Club of Milford are going to put
that twenty five thousand dollars to good use. Congratulations And
(00:50):
if Fritz he doesn't get the MVD as a result
of his per formant and gas money, oh boy, no.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
No, he's won fat He's won that four with the
most valuable and least valuable. But thanks for the phone call.
And I'm sure Fritzy will probably win both awards this year.
Charles Barkley joined us yesterday. We were waiting. You know,
usually what happens is once the show is over, we
kind of stay here on our set, and then we
wait till the golfers get done with their round or
(01:19):
they're done with the you know, being on the practice range,
and all of a sudden we looked over and here
was Charles Barkley coming up and he greeted me by saying, Dan,
you're a coward.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Dan, why don't you play in this tournament? I guess
you injured this year? Dan, this is't the best week
of a year.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
I would play if I could play with you, because
I know that I would beat you.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
Then you can't beat me.
Speaker 6 (01:43):
Now you had the worst odds to win this thing.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
I don't even understand that. I do.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
No, I don't even understand that because last year I
came in fifty eighth. So how did they have that's
thirty more people? How can they have me? Did last
I beat thirty some people last year?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
I'm all right, I'm betting on you to better your
score from last year.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
Well, they got me top sixty five, right, yeah, I'm
gonna beat that.
Speaker 6 (02:10):
I'm going under me too.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (02:11):
How much you got to bet on yourself?
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Well, last year I've had I want to bet five
hundred thousand dollars on them, and did you so?
Speaker 5 (02:22):
No, this true story.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
I placed the bet and then they tell me I
can't do it. They say it's illegal for me better myself,
I said, which is total, but yes, I might add.
I guess they knew I was gonna win, but they
told me it's illegal for you to bet on yourself.
I'm like, if I bet myself to lose, that would
be illegal.
Speaker 6 (02:43):
But boxers get to bet on themselves.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
I don't know. I think they were just full of crap.
Speaker 6 (02:47):
To be honest with you, Dan, I would have placed
the bet for you.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
I would like you to do that. So yeah, they
told me it was illegal, which I didn't understand.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Okay, so you can give me five hundred thousand, yes,
and I can bet on you.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
Yes. Let's see if they take that this year.
Speaker 6 (03:01):
And do I get a finder's fee or do I
get Did.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
You put any money in? No, you didn't put any
money in.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
So if I lose, so you gotta find an unfound fee.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
No, what's the number one question basketball wise that you'll
get out here?
Speaker 4 (03:23):
I have not. I just got in last night. I
have not been asked any basketball question yet. To be
honest with you, I have not been asked one basketball question.
I've only did probably two quick interviews nothing just the
most formal one I've done. But I have not been
asked one basketball question. But the answer your question was
(03:47):
the number one question I'm probably gonna be asked is
how close out of Rockets to the thunder And who's
going to be favored in the East, which are two
very good questions because I don't know because basketball is
not played on papers, played in the gym uh and
I have no idea who the favorite in the East.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
Did the Rockets get better?
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Probably are as good as Oklahoma City, I don't know.
But the caution with the East, I'd have to do
some serious thinking because I like the mouse turner going
with Giannis. The Knicks are gonna be solid.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
Oran. I like what Orlando did. Atlanta had a great.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Offset well, but all that stuff is just window dressing.
When that when when the basketball starts in October, that's
when it started.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
Everything looks great on paper.
Speaker 6 (04:47):
DeAndre Aiden going to the Lakers. Does that what's the
What's that solved?
Speaker 4 (04:52):
They got bigger, they got bigger, but their best second
best player is going to be forty one, forty two
years old. Can he stay healthy? Is Luca Luca gonna
be in shape? Are they better in the Rockets? Are
they better in Oklahoma City? Are they better than Denver?
(05:13):
Those are great questions. I don't just because because aiden
his track I gotta go by his track record, and
it's not a good track record. Did they needed a
big guy? But are they better in Oklahoma City, in
Houston or Denver? I would not say so.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
No.
Speaker 6 (05:31):
Do you think you know more about football than you
do basketball?
Speaker 4 (05:35):
I admire football more than I do basketball. It takes
a tremendous amount of courage to play football. I played
for one day and I realized I was a puss.
I was like, damn, they really are him?
Speaker 5 (05:50):
Not here?
Speaker 6 (05:52):
But you you were a big guy in high school.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
I wasn't that big.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
I grew from five ten to sixty five, but I
was like five ten when I played football at one day.
But even now, to go out on the football field,
you can cheat. In basketball, you don't have to play defense.
You can be a one way offensive player. You can
you know you can cheat. You cannot cheat in football
if you step on that football field. It's kind of
the same thing with boxing. The reason football and boxing
(06:17):
of my two favorite sports. It takes tremendous courage. You
cannot step on a football field if you're not all in.
You're gonna have to quit. I mean, it's just dangerous.
Same thing with boxing. You can't cheat football in boxing.
You can cheat in some other sports, but in football,
in boxing you have to be all in.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
I think best athletes are hockey players to do it
on the ice well with the sticks. They get to
hit you with the sticks.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Well, I would love to beat the hell out of
some people and only get and only get punished for
two minutes.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
Can you imagine that you get to.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Knock the hell out of somebody and only get punished
for two minutes. That would be a That'd be like
a dream come true.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Okay, how many players would you looking back like to
have that I get to beat you up and I
am only out two minutes for roughing Bill.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
Mbiert, mL Car.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Papaeae Jones because Papa Jones is the one player who
dominated me every time I played against him, I would
love to just knock the hell out of him for
two minutes.
Speaker 6 (07:22):
But when you see Lambert, you're good.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
We're good, you know, dude, all this stuff should be good. Dude,
he's sixty year old. If you're sixty years old and
still fighting, you a punk. Anybody who's still fighting is sixty.
Anybody who's fighting past twenty five.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
Is a punk.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
If you're a grown person, you know you young and
dumbance too, butid you get in a fight every now
and then. But once you're a grown person, you shouldn't
be fighting. Anybody fighting once you pass thirty is just
a loser. You see these videos with people out here fighting,
You say to yourself, what a damn food?
Speaker 5 (07:54):
What an idiot?
Speaker 6 (07:56):
Where would you be if you didn't play basketball?
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Wow, that's a great question. I believe my work ethic
would make me successful. But I don't know because I've
never did anything but basketball. But I believe my work
ethic in basketball help me be successful. You got to
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have more than talent to be successful. But I probably
would be like a regular worker, like in a factory somewhere,
because nobody's gonna ever has going to say I didn't
work hard, but I wasn't going to be overly smart.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
I'm not going to tell that.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Lie, but I think I would have been successful as
something probably better have been factory related.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
But okay, when do you get that personality? When do
you realize you have personality?
Speaker 5 (08:51):
When?
Speaker 6 (08:51):
When? When can you entertain? When can you make people laugh?
Speaker 5 (08:56):
Well?
Speaker 6 (08:56):
That should be easy, but you were in high school,
in college.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
No not.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
It didn't happen till I got to the NBA once
I realized I'd made it. See, your life happiness should
be dictated by how good your life is. Like Dan,
anybody who played sports should be the happiest person in
the world. You think about it. We get paid a
gazillion dollars to do something that's stupid. Think about it.
(09:23):
And I'm not saying that to be humbled over. Like
I was sitting there when I first started making my Like,
these people paying me millions of dollars to dribble a
stupid ass basketball. They're paying me the millions of dollars
to wear shoes. I should always be in a good mood,
and I really live my life. People say, man, you're
always in a good mood. I said, why will not
(09:45):
be in a good mood like every NBA player to
be like, man, these people are paying me millions of
dollars to dribble a stupid ball. Like my first contract
was four years, two million dollars. I was number five
picking the draft. That guy today is probably gonna get
a four year deal for thirty forty million. He should
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be happy from day one. I was happy from day one.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
So my song where Devin Booker got to your extension.
He's gonna get over se seventy million dollars a year.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
He should be the happiest person. He should go around.
He should just go around shaking people hands. Nobody plays
for the Suns. How happy can he be? Well, he's
gonna be happy twice a day, twice a month. The
first out of fifteenth, Hey, the first un of fifteenth.
He's gonna be real damn happy. You know, God blessed
these guys for how much.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
Money they make. I made more money than Doctor.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
J and Bill rusting those guys. But these guys should
all be in a good mood. Dan, I mean, think
about Devin Buker, who's a hell of a player, gonna
make seventy million dollars to dribble a stupid basketball. Why
shouldn't he be in a good mood? He's the luckiest
dude in the world. I mean all these dudes I
saw Cheded Holgan got two hundred some million. She just
(10:56):
got three hundred million. Why wouldn't you be in a
good mood? You work six seven months a year, you
get two three hundred dollars a day per diem. You
stay at the risk cause into four seasons you work
a couple hours a day, four days a week.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
What you're not happy.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
About keeping that good mood? We'll continue with Charles Barkley
right after this.
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Speaker 2 (12:14):
We spent some time yesterday with Charles Barkley. We gave
you part one, then we went to commercial break and
we promised part two. And I started out by asking
Charles Barkley how easy it was to get in trouble
on the road when he was playing.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
It's very easy to get in trouble. You got drugs,
you got alcohol, you got women, troubles. Troubles are always
there at trouble. Then you have to go on the
road to get in trouble.
Speaker 6 (12:41):
It's at home too, But who helps you navigate that
when you get to the NBA, because you.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
Know how it helps you navigate. You got to surround yourself.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
The first thing you gotta do is get rid of
your family and friends because they're the biggest freeloaders and
they'll never tell you no. They'll use up all your
money too, and they won't tell you no. You got
to surround yourself with a few people who number one
will tell you no, tell you how to invest your money,
how to save your money, tell you, hey, you had
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too much to drink. I don't think we should be
doing this pot, cocaine, all these drugs. That's the hardest
thing surrounding yourself with people, because these kids got the
same stuff. They they just got more of it and
they got more money. But you got There's women, there's alcohol,
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there's drugs. There that's everywhere, whether you at home or
on the road. And sometimes they can all get you
in trouble if you don't control them, and they're readily
available depending on how much money you got.
Speaker 6 (13:47):
Well, how did you not get in trouble?
Speaker 4 (13:48):
Or I've done stupid things. I never got into the
drug thing.
Speaker 6 (13:52):
You'd smoked pot before.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Yeah, five times. I don't understand it. You know, my
friends keep trying to get me to smoke pot. I
don't smoke pot, like five times. It just makes me
want potato chips. It doesn't do anything for me. Dan
and my friends love it, and I say, oh, y'all
can do it. I'm just not gonna do it. But
pot does nothing for me. I just don't understand it
(14:13):
I've wanted. I said, I think I've done it maybe
four or five times at the boast and they're like,
you gotta try this, this whatever, and I'm like, yeah,
where are laced potato chips and prinkles at? But I've
never gotten involved with drugs. I probably did some stupid
stuff with women, for sure, But man, it's it's there
(14:34):
if you want it.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
But also when you when you think about it, if
you go to a team, a bad team or a
team that that's the culture.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
Yeah, but every guy's not involved in the culture. Like
there's guys what guys on teams I've been on, they
like to do drugs. You don't have to hang out
with those guys, but inn bot mine. You got to
make your own decisions. I chose not to do drugs.
I didn't judge other guys who did drugs. That's them.
Speaker 5 (14:59):
That's I.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
Probably drank too much because I like to drink. But
I think the biggest thing you need to be a
great players have a good coaching staff. That's probably the
most important thing, the coaching staff. I think more players
get ruined by bad coaching staffs because the coaches are cowards.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
They're scared of.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
The coach like I wanted a pat Riley. I had
a great coach, Billy Cunningham or Greg Popovich. But most
of these coaches today they're cowards because the players make
so much money. They don't have money control. The players
run the team and the coach needs to realize that
player gonna get him fired. But we have taken the
power from the coaches away because the players make so
(15:42):
much money. But I say bad coaches have ruined more
players than anything in the NBA.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
I was wondering this question if this would be asked
on Lebron's podcast, and tell me how you would interpret this.
Let's say Steve Nash says to Kevin Durant, Lebron is there,
and he says, do you think you're better than Lebron?
Do you think it's a fair question to ask kd?
(16:10):
And what do you think kat would say?
Speaker 4 (16:12):
Well, I think all questions are fair. You had a
right to answer them. I think Katie his answer should
be yes, you got to always thank you. You can't
be a great player if you think other players a venue,
they're gonna have to prove they're better than you do.
I think kat is as good as le bron I
do not because I don't think you have his leadership qualities.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
But that's a fair question. But I answer should be yes.
Speaker 6 (16:37):
But did you think you were better?
Speaker 5 (16:39):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (16:39):
Yes, yes? Did you think you were better than Jordan's Yes?
Was there anybody you didn't think you were better than.
Speaker 8 (16:49):
Dan?
Speaker 4 (16:49):
Let me tell you this, and I've talked about this
public before. I did not think Michael Jores betting means
that he beat me in the finals because when I
got when I was in Philly, we actually had success
against them, and then they got good and then they
beat us in the playoffs one year. But I thought
(17:10):
of just because he had some better players around him.
When I got traded to Phoenix, I says, Chuck Daly
had told me. He says, you're the second best player
in the world. I said, I'm the best player in
the world. He says, no, that guy right over there's
the best player in the world. I said, well, I'm
gona prove it to your ass this year when we
played them in the finals, he says. Chuck says, I
(17:33):
didn't realize how great you were except getting to watch
you play every day, how easy the game is for
you. You can play with anybody this is doing the Dream
Team practice and I said, I said, Chuck, I'm the
best player in the world. I'm gonna prove it to you.
I said, We're going to play the Bulls in the finals.
And I remember telling the guys that going into training camp.
(17:55):
I said, we're going to play the Bulls in the finals.
How you know that, I said, because I'm the best
damn player in the world, and I'm gonna prove it.
I said, We're gonna play the Bulls. I'm gonna prove
I'm a best player in the world. And I remember
going home after Game two. My daughter was upset, crying
because we lost the first two games. I says, hey,
(18:16):
just relax, We're gonna be fine. I said, but I
gotta tear something. I ain't never said this in my life.
I think that guy might be better at basketball than
I am. And I said, but I think I'm better
and we'll be fine. Then we win game three, lose
Game four, win game five, come back home for Game six,
and my daughter say, I told you I think I'm
(18:38):
the best player in the world.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
I'm gonna prove it. And then they beat us.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
I remember telling her, I says, I ain't never said
this se before, that guy's better at basketball than me.
And that's the first time I'd ever because it's a
team game. But once I got Damn Marlin Kevin Johnson,
I said, we can beat anybody. We can beat anybody.
But yeah, I thought Michael Jordan was a better player
to me. That's the only player I've played against I
thought was better than me. Magic Magic had James Worth
(19:04):
and Kareem and Magic is great. You know, we owe
all our success in the NBA to Larry Bird and
Magic Johnson. They're the two most important people in the
NBA history. That the reason the NBA makes some money today.
Obviously Michael took it to a whole another level, but
it won for Magic Johnson Larr Bird. The NBA wouldn't
be what it was today, plain and simple.
Speaker 6 (19:22):
What if Bird doesn't introduce back.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
Well, we stid one of the greatest players ever.
Speaker 6 (19:27):
I mean, you know, is this a what was it
a ten year career?
Speaker 4 (19:32):
I think it was more than that, But you have
to factor end though then the physicality of the game.
We all had to go to college for three and
four years. You know, these guys number one, bless these
guys they make a deal how long they play Number one?
They never went to college. And also there's no physicality.
You have to factor in these guys played. I played
(19:52):
three years of college. I think Bird played four years
of college. Michael played three years of college. Tim Duncan
played four years of college. David Robinson played four years
of college. So you guys talk about all these guys
they like, I say, and listen, it's a different game
now because no physicality. But you have to factor in
all the years some of these guys lost going to college.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
And I think Bird went to college.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
I mean you went to two or three schools I
remember correct before he went to in down the state.
Uh because uh, but so but bird Man, he was amazing.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
It feels like there's all there's probably more stories about
Bird that are told than any other player because he
was the.
Speaker 5 (20:33):
Best stress talker ever, you know.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
So, So Leon Wood was one of my teammates, and
we're sitting in the locker room getting ready for the
three point shooting contests, and I was kind of just
talking to Leon trying to calm him down and good,
all these three point shooters in there. Bard comes in
and says, which, why are you gonna come in second place? Like,
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which one of you gonna come in second place? So
first words through the door? Which one of you gonna
come in second place?
Speaker 7 (21:11):
Dan?
Speaker 6 (21:14):
It was over.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
I'm sitting around. Nobody said nothing. It was one of
the best scenes. I was like, I'm looking around. I'm
not in the contest, so I can't say anything. Nobody
said a word, and I said, man, I wish we
had casinos. We could bet on them collaborry gonna win
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this three point shooting contest.
Speaker 5 (21:39):
Because nobody said a thing. I mean, I was like,
this thing is over. This is a rap.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
Did Larry and Doctor j Ever talk about that fight
that they had?
Speaker 4 (21:50):
So I'm still mad that the NBA found me. Yeah,
you were holding I wouldn't up see. I grabbed him
to break it up. I didn't know Doc was punching him.
I just remember Bert Chuck, y'all better get this old
man of me. Wait are you saying about doctor Jakes?
Speaker 5 (22:09):
Yeah, Chuck.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
Killing him too, y'oll man, y'all better get this old
man off me. He says just five, six, seven times.
Doc is grinding now trying to stop him.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
He and very rolling. I'm gonna kill this old man
if y'all don't get him off me.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
And next thing I know, Doc just snaps, and I
just grabbed Bird. And I'm still mad. I'm telling you
the NBA find me for a whole I said, first
of all, I would never hold somebody. That's somebody I
didn't know. I just tried to break it up. I
didn't know Doc was punching it. But man, after he
said about the fifth or sixth time about get this
old man off me, Doc just snapped.
Speaker 6 (22:55):
So Larry's taking it to doctor Jack.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
This might be Doc's last year. He was one of
his last couple of may been this last year. And
Bird just killing him and talking trash the whole time,
and boy, dog just snapped.
Speaker 6 (23:08):
Did they ever talk about this?
Speaker 5 (23:10):
No, no, nothing to talk about it.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
I don't know if Larry would ever say, you know what, No,
I'm sorry. I shouldn't know.
Speaker 6 (23:23):
Manny I know, but there's doctor j He's royalty.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
Let me tell you something, treat him, let me tell
you something about this. Let me tell you something about
the Sickers and the Celtics. My first experience. So you know,
these old Vets, Doc Bobby Jones, rescheeks Moses, they don't
care about the preseason. It's just like so basically a
glorified scrimmage. So we played like the first four or
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five games. We go to play the Celtics, guys, is
goofing around the first four or five exhibition games. That's
not a I don't go out on. I pulled Andrew
Tony aside. I says, is somebody sick or heard or something.
(24:09):
He says, it's the Celtics, And I said what he says,
it's the Celtics. The preseason, preseason, every time we played
to Celtics, it was a different vibe. Anytime we played
the Lakers, it was different because Moses was going to
try to kill Kareem because Kareem was and Moses did.
(24:30):
Moses thought he never got his just do it. I
don't believe he got it either. But when we played
to Celtics man regular season playoffs, it was a different
vibe in the building.
Speaker 6 (24:41):
It was it was it's great to see you, hey man,
good luck.
Speaker 5 (24:46):
Hey I'm proud of you.
Speaker 7 (24:48):
Dan.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
You know your career. To have a career as long
as you've had it, you have to be talented, number one.
You have to have a great work ethic, and people.
Speaker 5 (24:58):
Have to like you. How many years you've been doing
this now?
Speaker 6 (25:03):
Probably forty? Amy? Man, you like me?
Speaker 5 (25:06):
Man, You're gonna go your whole life without working. I'm
on a six.
Speaker 6 (25:10):
I work. Listen to the guys I'm with this. No,
I work.
Speaker 5 (25:13):
It's like stealing Dan.
Speaker 6 (25:14):
This is work.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
It's like stealing.
Speaker 6 (25:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
This isn't exactly your Phoenix Suns team. This is my
Philadelphia team, the team you wanted out.
Speaker 6 (25:26):
That's right this.
Speaker 5 (25:28):
Yeah, Oh you know it's so funny.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
Jimmy Line and one of my favorite people, one of
my Billy conn is my best coach I've ever had.
Two of my favorites are Rudy Tom Jonovitch and Jim Line.
We're playing the Selfs in the playoffs, I says, Jim.
Look out there right before a tip off. That's Bert
mckel in Parish. I got Shelton Jones.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
I'm a new He says, good luck. I love Jill.
Every time I see.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Him, he says good luck, good luck, And I'll leave
you with that. Hey guy, thanks for having brother. Thank
you man, all right, thank you Charles. Uh he's great.
Speaker 6 (26:11):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
He gave us, you know, half hour of his time.
Busy day pulled in a lot of different directions, but
I do love that. You know, when people say he
forced his way out of Philadelphia to Phoenix, well look
at who he had. He had his front line didn't
exactly match up with the Boston Celtics there with Bird,
McHale and Parish. And even when Charles finished hit the conversation,
(26:34):
the interview, he's still telling us that story as he's
walking off our stage here and he's like, damn if
they had Bird, McHale and Parish, I had minute and
Shelton Shelton Jones. I went wait, Shelton Jones, he went
to Saint John's. He's like, yeah, that Shelton Jones.
Speaker 9 (26:51):
Yeah, Marvin Shelton Jones played one year in the NBA
in the in the nineteen eighty eight season for the
Philadelphia seventy six years.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Yeah, but he was there with Charles against Bird, McHale
and Parrish. Even that conversation where he's talking about Bird
trash talking doctor J. And this is late in Doc's
career and Larry's, you know, tearing him up, and that's
when he kept saying to Charles, he was talking about
doctor J. And then doctor J had had enough grabs
(27:22):
Bird by the throat and Charles grabs Larry, not realizing
that Doctor J is pounding Larry. I was like, oh
my god, Alex Caruso of the Oklahoma City Thunder will
stop by and the great comedian Nate Bergetzi will join us.
Speaker 6 (27:40):
Says, well, yes see, I got a big problem with
the way Larry Bird treated Doctor J.
Speaker 5 (27:44):
I do too.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
I got a big problem with that. But that's what
I was saying to Charles. I mean calling him an
old man. I mean I understand Larry that, you know.
Speaker 6 (27:54):
With trash talking. That's doctor J.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
I feel like the entire Sixers team should have punched
Larry in your face, not just Doctor Jay.
Speaker 6 (28:01):
Everybody should have punched him in the page. I'll talk
to him like that. That's wrong with you.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAP Final Hour.
Speaker 6 (28:17):
On this Friday, it's a meat Friday.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
At that.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
We got chopped brisket, we got barbecue chicken, we got
potato salad, baked beans. Who is it better than we do?
Speaker 5 (28:26):
No?
Speaker 6 (28:27):
All right, So we're a Dan atte.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Down Fritzy flew back from London, and I think he
got back in time to watch the celebrity family feud.
He's going to join us coming up at I don't know,
twenty after or so, and he can take a victory
lap with how he performed all of the dan Neutes.
Everybody performed well and we're able to talk about it
now because we dominated the Rich Eisen show. I did
(28:51):
ask if somebody could go see if rich Eisen, who
was here playing.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
As a journalist.
Speaker 6 (28:58):
I am a journalist.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
You got to cover the story.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
I said, could somebody go over and ask rich Eason
if he would like to join us on the program.
That's all Sir Ray says, no, okay, but I want
to he can give his side to this. I want
to let him have his opportunity to talk about this. Yes, Paula,
Before you bring in Rob, I just want to say
some people on the internets are asking about the possibility
(29:21):
of a celebrity family.
Speaker 6 (29:23):
Feud remat No, I'm a one and Donner.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
We have nothing les Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
We dominated and we move on. I yeah, I mean
he might want to to save face. I don't know
if he'll ever recover from this. But uh, you know,
let's see if he wants to join us here on
the program, all right, each seven seven three DP show
email address Dpadanpatrick dot com. He's Rob Mack, the actor, comedian,
part owner of Wrexham, always sonny in Philadelphia, always sunny disposition,
(29:53):
and a celebrity who doesn't lie because yesterday I said, Rob,
do you want to join us on the show? And
he goes, I can't today, but I'll join you tomorrow.
Do you look like a celebrity though?
Speaker 9 (30:04):
Thank you? I think it's the sunglass. Yes it is,
I'll take off.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
Now, Yes it is.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Okay, explain the rebrand here of you go from Rob
mackelhany yes to Rob.
Speaker 6 (30:15):
Mac And how much thought went behind this?
Speaker 2 (30:17):
If you want to pull that microphone up a little
bit too, so, how much thought goes into a what
I guess is a rebrand, A.
Speaker 8 (30:24):
Tremendous amount of thought over the last twenty years. But
I think the thing that really put it over the
edge was, you know, I'm very proud of my name.
I'm proud of my heritage, I'm proud of my family.
Speaker 9 (30:35):
And I never wanted to change my name.
Speaker 8 (30:37):
And I was asked many times coming into the entertainment business,
just because there's so many syllables and it's not quite
as sticky, and I always said no for that reason.
Speaker 9 (30:46):
And then I did a full family tree earlier this
year and found out that our name has.
Speaker 8 (30:51):
Changed seven or eight times over the last one hundred years,
including when we first came over.
Speaker 9 (30:56):
My great great grandfather they just changed his name.
Speaker 6 (30:59):
Was it old macilhany.
Speaker 8 (31:01):
It was in the vein, there was a lot, there
was an O at one point, it was McIlhenny, it
was mccull lugod and me at some point. And I thought,
it's kind of amazing that someone put a stamp on
m c E l h E and e y and said, yeah, that's.
Speaker 9 (31:15):
The easy one.
Speaker 5 (31:17):
Go with that, Go with that.
Speaker 6 (31:20):
What did your wife say, Well, she goes.
Speaker 8 (31:22):
By Kaitlyn Olsen, so she's okay with that. I called
my my my father, of course, had a very long
conversation with him. His first question was he said, son,
I love you, I will support you in whatever what
you want to do.
Speaker 9 (31:33):
Are you having a midlife crisis?
Speaker 8 (31:35):
I said, well yes, he said, just buy a car,
but no, he said, you know you're It was really
important to me, for because of my grandfather, my grandfather
and my grandmother who we're very close to, the Paytrarch
and Maytrarch of our of our family.
Speaker 9 (31:51):
And I said, what do you think grandm Pop would think?
Speaker 8 (31:53):
And he said, well, Pop would have loved that if
some government official decided to change your name, that you
change it back to something.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
That you wanted.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Okay, but you know what's gonna happen. This is like
X with Twitter that they have to say X formally
known as Twitter. It's Rob Mac formally known as Rob macklaheney.
Speaker 9 (32:13):
It's easier than prince right, because what was that?
Speaker 8 (32:16):
He was, Yeah, at the end of the day, I
actually I already it's only been a couple of weeks
and it's already easier. You walk into a room just
right here the edge what hotel? They said, name, sir,
I said Rob Mac. They didn't say excuse me, They said,
oh okay, I said RB m Ac and that was it.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
So you have all this free time of Rob Mac
and then you don't have the old Haney. That's right
once again, and you're signing things, so it's easier to
sign Rob mack.
Speaker 5 (32:43):
Here.
Speaker 9 (32:43):
My signature was just sort of r M and then
a bunch of squiggly lines.
Speaker 8 (32:46):
So I don't know if it'll make that much of
a difference, but I can say that it's also an
opportunity to shed one's skin and try something new.
Speaker 9 (32:54):
I've always liked to change will and.
Speaker 8 (32:56):
I've always been a terrible golfer, So I feel like
Rob mcklehenney is a terrible offer.
Speaker 9 (33:00):
But Rob mack is going to make a statement this year.
Speaker 6 (33:02):
Is Ryan Reynolds going to change his last night?
Speaker 9 (33:05):
I don't know. I mean, that's the thing.
Speaker 8 (33:06):
It's if your if your last name is Reynolds or Patrick,
you don't know. You don't really understand what it's like.
And again, it's not that big of a deal. There's
so much going on in the world. Who really cares,
But the amount of time one has to spend negotiating
and navigating the spelling or pronunciation of one's name, when,
especially as our business expands into Latin America and in
(33:28):
other parts of the world, I just figured it'd be
easier for everybody else just to say.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Mac Wrexham, you and Ryan done a great job there,
congratulations on promotion.
Speaker 6 (33:39):
Thank you. How close was this to not happening.
Speaker 9 (33:44):
Never not, you mean the promotion or the whole whole project,
of the whole project. Oh no, it was going to happen.
Speaker 8 (33:50):
In fact, I went back and and I found the
original email that I set to him where I laid
out the idea and what what I what I wanted
to do, And originally I was going to do it
on my own and ask Ryan if he wanted to
be a sponsor Aviation jen is the front of kit sponsor.
The more I thought about it, the more I realized, Wow,
he's such an entrepreneur, he's globally famous.
Speaker 9 (34:11):
Whatever he touches seems to turn to gold.
Speaker 8 (34:13):
If I could potentially include him as a partner, that
this could take this thing to the stratosphere. And I
remember asking my wife about it, and I said, Kaitlin,
what do you think about me asking Ryan to be
a full partner on this? And she said, I don't know.
I guess it depends on whether your ego can take
sharing the screen with Ryan Reynolds.
Speaker 6 (34:29):
Wow.
Speaker 9 (34:30):
Yeah, And I said, a good point. That's a good point, But.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
I would you know, they don't want posers over there,
and we've seen so many US billionaires. They want to
invest in the Premier League and you know there's that
pushback reaction. How much of that did you get from Wrexham?
That wait a minute, what do you guys know about soccer?
Speaker 6 (34:50):
And what are you going to do?
Speaker 8 (34:51):
That's right, and that's why we were honest from the
very beginning, and we went in with our hearts on
our sleeves and said we don't know anything about football.
Speaker 9 (34:57):
And I didn't say soccer. I said football. Now for
the sake of this conversation, it will be easier to
call it soccer, and so I'll just I'll do so.
But I just want to put an astix on that
we just went in and.
Speaker 8 (35:08):
Said, we don't know anything about soccer, and have you
become a soccer snot? No, No, honestly, I'd become a
soccer fan. I was not even a fan of the
beautiful game up until five years ago, and now I'm
I'm horrifically addicted.
Speaker 5 (35:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
But if you if you could say success for Wrexham
or success for always Sonny, what.
Speaker 8 (35:30):
You mean if I had a time machine, because it's
hard to I mean I would need a Dolorean to
go back, But.
Speaker 9 (35:35):
You mean from this point forward?
Speaker 5 (35:36):
Yeah, it's not.
Speaker 8 (35:37):
He's had a great run. We're in season seventeen. We
just debuted season seventeen, over twenty twenty years.
Speaker 9 (35:43):
Yeah, that's why.
Speaker 6 (35:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (35:46):
Well, you know, I remember meeting you probably about a
decade ago, and I said something to you a phrase,
and I remember you saying, Wow, that is both inspiring
and crushing, and that phrase was I grew up watching you.
And now I hear a lot of people say that
to me. Oh, guys in their thirties and women in
their mid thirties. Thing, I grew up watching you, And
(36:08):
there's nothing that you described it perfectly. It is really
inspiring and sweet to hear, and it's crushing because it means.
Speaker 9 (36:14):
You're so old.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Yeah, you do feel that, like you get to a
certain point where somebody said, and the legendary. You know,
you can't mean legendary when you're in your twenties. Yes,
you got to be in your sixties to become legendary.
Speaker 9 (36:28):
But Danny, I'll give you a great example.
Speaker 8 (36:30):
Danny DeVito turns down lifetime Achievement awards all the time.
And I asked them, you know, this was like maybe
five years ago, Hey, why do you keep turning these things?
Speaker 2 (36:38):
Down.
Speaker 8 (36:38):
They seem like great honors, And he said, because it's
basically a ticket to to the funeral home. They're saying, hey, great,
that that was a great career bye.
Speaker 6 (36:47):
And I feel the same way.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Yeah, I truly if they gave me a lifetime sports Emmy, like,
I wouldn't want to do it because there's still part
of me that's like very competitive. I mean, I expect
a time sportsman. I'm just saying, yes, I sort of
an honorable Maybe it could be a posthumous like I'm
fine with that. But how do you sell Danny DeVito
on this concept.
Speaker 8 (37:10):
Well, we had the luxury of already having shot one
season of the show without him. Now nobody watched it,
but we had seven episodes of that series, and I
remember going to his house because we needed to bring
on somebody that had a little weight, somebody that was
famous so that we could use it for marketing, and
Danny's name came up and he just seemed like a
(37:31):
perfect fit. So I remember I went over to his
house and rang the doorbell and his daughter, who at
the time was probably nineteen or twenty years old, she
answers the door and she says, oh, hi, my name's Lucy.
Speaker 9 (37:43):
I just want to tell you I'm such a massive
fan of your show, and I knew from that point forward.
I walked in through the threshold and was like, we
got this guy, We got this guy.
Speaker 6 (37:51):
Was there an episode that maybe you shouldn't have airred?
Speaker 8 (37:55):
Oh yeah, Hi, there's episodes that got pulled from there
that are no longer in searchation. Okay, yeah, sactic, I'm
happy to discuss them. I mean, it's it's satire. So
one of the benefits of satire is that you get
to sort of wield a very sharp look at culture,
(38:17):
and that's what we do, very specifically Western culture, very
specifically the hypocrisy of Western culture across the socio political
and economic divides, and and and in doing so, you're
gonna push the boundaries of what is considered good taste
at any given moment. And so at the time when
something you're making something and something airs, it speaks to
(38:38):
the to its time.
Speaker 9 (38:39):
But when something then.
Speaker 8 (38:41):
Goes years and engineers time, the time has changed and
it doesn't necessarily age. And I always feel like, well,
look that's where I was at the time, that's where
the show was at the time. I feel like erasing
that as if it didn't exist suggests that it never happened,
and I feel like that's a scary way to to
look at the present in the future.
Speaker 5 (39:00):
How good a.
Speaker 6 (39:00):
Golfer are you?
Speaker 5 (39:01):
Oh? Terrible? Okay?
Speaker 6 (39:02):
Like like, are you Barkley bad?
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Oh?
Speaker 9 (39:04):
I'm worse than Barkley?
Speaker 5 (39:06):
Where I was?
Speaker 2 (39:06):
I was?
Speaker 8 (39:07):
I can tell you, I can tell you how I
feel versus what the reality is. I feel like I'm
a great golfer, and that's part of the problem. So
there's no reality play, thank you. Yeah, I'm not an
I am not an athlete, not in any way.
Speaker 9 (39:19):
I no, No, That's why I went to the arts.
All my friends were playing sports.
Speaker 8 (39:24):
It's an all boys Catholic school, and the girls schools
needed boys for their plays, and I was like, well,
I'm getting cut from every team.
Speaker 9 (39:30):
I might as well go and meet a bunch of
girls and.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
Get for the place, right, you know what, Given looking back,
I should have been in choir and maybe banned and
done you know plays.
Speaker 9 (39:43):
Yeah, it worked out for you, It worked out pretty well.
Speaker 8 (39:46):
But as far as these events go, it's really fun
to test your metal against professional athletes because it's really golf.
The sport itself is so humbling, and it is a
game that takes practice, and it's so look, ultimately, it's
so stupid.
Speaker 9 (40:01):
You're just trying to get a little ball in a
whole four hundred yards away.
Speaker 8 (40:04):
So why do people love it? Why do people come
become so addicted to it? Especially high achieving of people.
And I think it's just the meditative practice of recognizing
how silly something is. But the more work you put
into it, the hopefully the better you get. And I
think there's just something very profound about.
Speaker 6 (40:22):
That Eagles fan playing with Aaron Rodgers today. Correct, Yeah,
that's right, all right, how's that going to go?
Speaker 9 (40:28):
Well, we won the Super Bowl, and when I say we,
I mean the Philadelphia Eagle is not me. I think
it's gonna go gread.
Speaker 8 (40:34):
I've never I've never met Aaron aside from shaking hands
with him, So we'll see how his game is.
Speaker 9 (40:39):
I here is pretty good. Yeah, well my score last
year was negative thirty six.
Speaker 8 (40:45):
Now, anybody who watches golf sees negative thirty six and says.
Speaker 9 (40:49):
Wow, that's a great score.
Speaker 8 (40:51):
Yeah, but they're not realizing that it's a different scoring
The scoring system is a little bit different. Yeah, negative
thirty six means there was a lot of double bogies
out there. So the way I'm looking at it is,
I don't need to beat Aaron Rodgers. I don't need
to beat Charles Barkley. I just need to beat Rob mclehenny,
who was negative thirty six. So if I can beat
Rob Mack, if Rob Mac could beat Rob mclhenny, then
(41:13):
I'll feel good.
Speaker 6 (41:13):
It is that the first third person use of your name.
Speaker 8 (41:17):
Yeah, I mean, it's gonna be insufferable, trust me, true,
I'm gonna be in no.
Speaker 9 (41:22):
I I recognize how silly and ridiculous it is. And
so even this morning I.
Speaker 8 (41:25):
Saw on the X account, not the Twitter account, that
you guys announced me as Rob mclehenny, and I laughed
and thought, well, of course, of course they did, like
it's going to be a process, and still at the
end of the day there are bigger things going on
in the world.
Speaker 9 (41:39):
Who really cares? And I just laughed and figured this
would be about that.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
If I say Rob Mac, then people won't know that, Yeah,
that's right, But then you got to go Rob Mac
always sunny Wreckham, you know, and then they get that.
Speaker 8 (41:52):
Luckily, my character's name on the thing I'm most known
for is Mac, so that's very very helpful.
Speaker 9 (41:59):
My grandfather's nickname was Mac.
Speaker 8 (42:00):
Everybody called him Mac up until all through high school,
I was known as Mac, and then I stopped going
by that because my character is such a horrific human
on our show that I didn't want to go by that.
Speaker 9 (42:12):
As a as a as a nickname. But now I'm
taking it.
Speaker 6 (42:14):
But but how much fun is it to play a
bad guy?
Speaker 5 (42:17):
The best?
Speaker 9 (42:18):
It's the best?
Speaker 2 (42:19):
Could you envision being like, you know, Jim Parsons with
Big Bang Theory, where everything is just you know, I know,
just kind of floating along.
Speaker 9 (42:29):
Yeah, I don't know, I gravitate a good person. Yeah,
that's so boring.
Speaker 8 (42:35):
Well, in fact, I'm I'm making I'm developing two separate
shows right now, both completely different from from Sonny, not
very much, not different from tonally from Welcome to Wrexham
just as far as they're more dramatic.
Speaker 5 (42:48):
Ones.
Speaker 8 (42:49):
Both are crime dramas. One I played the good guy
and one I played the bad guy. So it's really
fun to sit down and think of myself and and
and sort of bifurcate the way I press.
Speaker 6 (43:00):
He's throwing out some big words today.
Speaker 9 (43:01):
I'm gonna I mean, well, I'm not doing it on purpose.
They're just I told you that I'm in.
Speaker 4 (43:09):
This is in?
Speaker 5 (43:10):
What can I curse on this? What do you?
Speaker 6 (43:14):
Why do you need to curse?
Speaker 9 (43:15):
Well, because you can't.
Speaker 6 (43:17):
I you can't F word?
Speaker 9 (43:19):
But I sound like a dickhead?
Speaker 5 (43:20):
You can I say that?
Speaker 9 (43:23):
I just get yeah, okay, I can say it once. Okay,
that's I'm not trying Dan.
Speaker 6 (43:27):
But it like Ryan Reynolds can get away with this.
Speaker 9 (43:31):
Yeah, he's such a nice because he didn't change his name, right,
He's such.
Speaker 8 (43:35):
Ryan can get away with pretty much anything because he's
such a genuinely kind, nice person.
Speaker 9 (43:41):
But also he's just so.
Speaker 6 (43:42):
I think he could be a good actor too.
Speaker 9 (43:44):
He's a pretty good he's a pretty good actor.
Speaker 6 (43:47):
Does your wife say he's hot?
Speaker 9 (43:49):
She would say he is very attractive?
Speaker 6 (43:52):
Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah hot?
Speaker 8 (43:55):
The word hot, I would say, she she saves that,
But you don't hurts Jalen hurts hot hot?
Speaker 9 (44:02):
Okay, Tom Hardy the actor, Oh look at this little guy.
I know, we get a camera and we got a
little chip chip.
Speaker 6 (44:08):
Did somebody just say by frigate? So okay, we've established
that Ryan is hot.
Speaker 9 (44:18):
Yeah, well, Ryan's also forty eight years old.
Speaker 8 (44:21):
I think it's the young professional athletes that the ladies
are going for these days, some of the actors.
Speaker 6 (44:26):
Sure, okay, all right, well I think we've accomplied. Did
we accomplish anything here?
Speaker 8 (44:32):
I feel like we've exhausted the audience's desire to see
me or hear me on the show.
Speaker 5 (44:38):
What do you think? I don't know.
Speaker 6 (44:40):
Do you think that he's exhausted his were welcome now?
Speaker 3 (44:43):
He always I think Rob mack is welcome back anytime.
Speaker 6 (44:47):
Rob mclanny.
Speaker 5 (44:48):
That's he's gone.
Speaker 6 (44:49):
Yeah, he's gone. Nobody likes him.
Speaker 9 (44:51):
Well, see right there, we bifurcated there.
Speaker 6 (44:58):
Thank you for stopping.
Speaker 5 (44:58):
Thank you. I really agree.
Speaker 9 (45:00):
I'm a big fan. And you know what, I grew
up watching you from the time I was a little
kid up all the way up in conn.
Speaker 6 (45:08):
That's inspiring.
Speaker 8 (45:09):
And I said it to you and and I meant
it at the time, and I still mean it, and
it's been You have been a massive inspiration, uh for me,
and and for the way that we approach everything.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
And I truly remember well when I went and met
with you and I was pitching an idea, and you
were very enthusiastic.
Speaker 6 (45:25):
I mean it obviously it didn't work out.
Speaker 9 (45:28):
Because you took it somewhere else. Just to be clear,
he had the choice, he took it somewhere else.
Speaker 5 (45:33):
That's that.
Speaker 8 (45:34):
We'll do that in a different episode. I don't hold
it against you, and I don't hold a Rob Macklheady
a whole drive.
Speaker 5 (45:42):
Dickhead.
Speaker 9 (45:46):
Thank you, buddy, Thank you.
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