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On today's Dan Patrick Show, DP and the Danettes break down the "NFL Hope-o-Meter." How will Bill Belichick's personality translate to the college game? 4x Super Bowl Champ Rob Gronkowski breaks down some of the most iconic Patriots moments of his career and shares why he believes his Super Bowl XLIX ring means the most. 

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(01:09):
conference coming up later on this morning, Age seven, seven
to three. DP show email address Dpadanpatrick dot com, Twitter
handle at DP show. Let me start with Dion, because
we did reach out to Colorado see if we could
have Dion on and they said, you know, not at
this time. Now it feels like it sounds like it's

(01:31):
been described as being a health update press conference for
Dion Sanders. And if you go back to twenty twenty one,
he had two toes amputated, he had surgery for blood
clots on his left leg in twenty twenty three, he
got a little testy at the Big twelve media day
earlier this month when asked about his health issue. He

(01:52):
downplayed that. He had comments DESPN where he downplayed the
health concerns. But he has sent out mixed messages, whether
it's through one of his sons or a former player
a Sante Samuel. And it feels like this is a
very very important press conference for Dion now, important because

(02:12):
maybe he can continue to be the head coach at Colorado,
But there is also the possibility there has been speculation,
and that's why I'm going to be very careful when
I say this, that maybe he's not able to coach again,
or maybe he would have to leave the sidelines and
maybe coach in the press box. Once again, all of
this speculation. Dion is down played his health issues, but

(02:35):
there have been other people in his inner circle who
have spoken about this. I'll go back to Super Bowl
I think that was in Minnesota. In Minneapolis, and Dion
took off his shoes and he took off his socks
and he showed us his toes. He had turf toe.
His toes were mangled up. Now I don't know. Once again,

(02:59):
they were. He had a couple of toes amputated and
has blood clots as well. Just start there. The blood clots,
that's serious. You know, we've seen that with athletes recently.
We've seen that with athletes. Victor renbin Yama with blood
clots shut him down. So I don't know if this
is going to impact Dion, impact him in a way

(03:21):
that he wouldn't be able to coach or impact how
he coaches. But that's probably going to be about three
hours from now, so the show will be over when
Dion holds this press conference, and from what I'm told,
he will be holding a press conference with his medical team.
This isn't a football press conference from the standpoint of
let's talk about the Buffalos in the upcoming season. This

(03:42):
is about Dion Sanders, so we can only hope that
it's positive news. There have been two websites that have
already jumped to the conclusion that Dion will retire once again.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
I'm going to just.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
Tell you about the speculation here and there is no
So it doesn't feel like there's any real hard facts
that would lead me to believe one way or another
what's going to happen with Dion. So keep an eye
on that. Hope for the best for Dion as well.
NFL camp not much going on. I did love that

(04:16):
ESPN was at the commander's camp, and you want to
talk about a whole different attitude of feeling. When Daniel
Snyder was there, it just felt like it was always
a cloud over that franchise. You know, he's charging you
to go to watch them practice. This just feels different.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
Now.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
They got Terry McLaurin back in camp, which is important,
but it's a hold in. He still hasn't gotten his
contract settled yet. But with Jayden Daniels, there's nothing like
a franchise that has a quarterback where the fan base
goes yes. And that's what you have with the Commanders.
And once again, trying to drive anything out of these

(04:56):
training camps. I'm looking for the feel of it. I
want I want everybody in camp. I want to make
sure everybody gets through camp and preseason without injuries.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
And you want to know what is the vibe there?

Speaker 2 (05:09):
Like I'm still trying to figure out the vibe with
the Steelers because of Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
But you are all in TJ.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
Watt, is in DK Metcalf, like you've made some moves
there and now you bring in Aaron Rodgers. Okay, but
I still don't know what that vibe is because all
of a sudden you have the Aaron Rodgers talking about
Terry Bradshaw with what Terry Bradshaw said about Aaron Rodgers.
And then once again it's always these side stories that
you're trying to avoid. You just want to go straight ahead,

(05:40):
right down Main Street. You're not going to take the
scenic route here. Just get through training camp. But the Commanders, man,
you gotta feel good about that. Yuh got your coach
shown up, he got his hat on backwards going on ESPN.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
The crowd's going crazy.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
Jayden Daniels comes over, He's saying hi to the kids,
like it was, Hey, here's a pr day for the
Washington Commanders. But it was fun to sing. It was
great to sing. All right, See, what's pole question?

Speaker 4 (06:11):
We have?

Speaker 5 (06:12):
At least starting out first hour, we're gonna start off
with this one NFL training camp with.

Speaker 6 (06:16):
The most hope hope. Okay, we might be starting the
hopometer today.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
Okay, hope.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
Well, it feels like there's varying degrees of hope because
if I start with the Panthers, what is the hope there?
If I start with the Chargers, what's the hope there? Playoffs?
AFC title games?

Speaker 4 (06:49):
Super Bowl question mark?

Speaker 3 (06:51):
What is the hope the Rams?

Speaker 2 (06:53):
The hope is Matthew Stafford can stay healthy, because if
he does, I think that they're going to be the
in the playoffs and a legitimate threat. We saw what
they nearly pulled off with the Eagles. What is the hope.
The hope with the Eagles is let's just get through camp,
let's stay healthy. The Bengals, the hope is that you
get Trey Hendricks in it. So varying degrees of hope

(07:17):
for an individual or hope for the team. Uh, you
know the Cowboys. I guess the hope would be that
you clean up the Micah Parsons mess that you have
that continues. Are you looking at Team Seaton, you know,
with the hope of their fan base of how they're
going to do.

Speaker 7 (07:37):
Well?

Speaker 2 (07:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (07:37):
Why why don't we start with you started talking about
the Commanders earlier?

Speaker 8 (07:40):
This okay, right, a lot of hope right there through
the roof out of it. Yes, yes, yes, how about
the Patriots? Yeah you got Yeah, Mike Rabel, great coach,
you got your quarterback. Feels like there's a little momentum.
Although don't you fall victim to the hype videos and

(08:04):
shows that they put out with the Patriots?

Speaker 6 (08:06):
Oh me, Yeah, I'm a sucker for any hype video.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (08:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (08:10):
The Patriots have this thing out right now called like
uh forged in Foxborough I think it is, And it
is nothing but a thirty minute hype video.

Speaker 6 (08:18):
And you're like, Mike Rabel might be the best coach ever.

Speaker 5 (08:21):
Yeah, every random dude they got, like, look and now
Ali Shukatelly gave it.

Speaker 6 (08:26):
He's got a.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
Guy as not not an actual person but I know
what you're saying. It feels like if they they show
anybody in slow motion that they automatically become great. When
you're showing these videos and you're seeing and it just
feels like, you know, the announcer's voice goes down a
little bit lower than that. This silver and Black clad

(08:49):
Masters of Intimidition.

Speaker 9 (08:51):
Yes, Marvin, Yeah, I don't care how sorry a team is.
But if you see a highlight package right before they
come out on the field, even though they're owing fourteen
and it's due to I can't feel it coming.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
Oh lord.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
Speaking of well the Raiders, Pete Carroll, the head coach,
talking about his goals for his team.

Speaker 10 (09:14):
We have extremely high expectations. You know, I don't even
know any other way to think. And I don't care
what year it is or what team it is, It
doesn't matter to me. I mean, this is either going
forward or you're not. And that's who going for And
however whoever that means at the end of it, we'll
find out. But in the meantime, there is no no
standard that we can set high enough that we can't

(09:35):
challenge for and then so we're going for it. Like
I said, and these guys are on board, they get.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
It, Okay, they're going forward. Okay, like their hopeworthy.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
I mean, you're in a really tough division, but yeah,
there's hope.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
But that's the beauty of the NFL because all it
takes is, hey, we could be this year's Commanders. Well
you can be if you have Jayden Daniels, then maybe
you could be this year's commit And can you win
all of these one score games?

Speaker 3 (10:03):
Can you win in the last two minutes? Which is
what the Commander's pulled off.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
But I love the feeling of hope with some of
these teams, like the Atlanta Falcons hope.

Speaker 3 (10:15):
But I just don't.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
Know, like sometimes you have to go, Okay, I got
questions here and I got to hope here. So what
where's where's it going? Does it level off there that
the questions and the hope they're going to match each
other and we're going to be okay, yes, Marvin.

Speaker 9 (10:32):
And the hope. The hope meter goes by how your
division is. Yeah, So if you're in the NFC South,
your life nine games, we can do this.

Speaker 4 (10:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
Also Arthur Blank, he is the owner of the Atlanta Falcons,
talking about how he thinks we're going to eventually get
to every team is going to play a game outside
the United States, which I'm not big on exporting everything
that we have. I don't like when baseball opens up
in Japan opening Day. But I do think it's fair

(11:07):
if you're going to if you have to make it
fair for everybody a level playing field that hey, you're
going to be playing one or two games outside the
United States, that team doesn't have to play any I
think they're trying to grow the game. I think that's
why they're all in on flag football, because that can
be played around the world.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
They're trying to grow the game.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
And I said this, and I got this on good
authority from somebody with the NFL. They're going to get
to the eighteenth game. The eighteenth game is basically going
to be a complete TV package, a separate TV package
of you have the international games, and that's how they're
going to sell this. You're going to get to an
eighteenth game. It may not happen, you know, over the

(11:46):
next two years, but we'll get to eighteen games. Every
team will have a home base outside the United States.
You know, Pittsburgh's going to be in Dublin, You're you
have team, you know Germany, the Chiefs, You're going to
have Brazil with the Eagles, maybe Mexico City. Everybody's going
to have one of these places. The Jags in London.

(12:09):
That's how they want to grow the game, export it
and then those cities, those countries will embrace that team
that will be their team. So it's not just Jacksonville's
playing in London, but also you have owners who have
soccer franchises around the world and they're probably saying, hey,
I can get my NFL team into my soccer stadium

(12:33):
and get a couple of bites of the apple here.
So this is what's going on. The question is when
does it happen. It's not if, but when and when
it does, they're going to make even more money because
they'll sell this as a separate TV package.

Speaker 11 (12:48):
Yes, Pauline, one other team I would like to throw
on the hopemeter. How about the Denver Broncos. You know
they finally clean up their quarterback situation.

Speaker 12 (12:57):
Bo NIXX.

Speaker 11 (12:57):
I know you got to get past the Chiefs, but
they haven't had hope in a couple of years.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
It felt like they overachieved last year.

Speaker 12 (13:08):
Oh you're a hope kiler. Don't be a hope killer.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
Yeah, I didn't.

Speaker 12 (13:13):
Know what you're saying.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
I'm going hope solo here.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yes that I'm not all in with Denver in Washington,
even though they got their quarterbacks and I like their
coaches and the vibe is really good. It's just sometimes
you look at a team and you go, how did
they get to that many wins?

Speaker 3 (13:33):
And it's weird.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
I felt like the Broncos got to that win total,
maybe a little more legitimately than Washington did, but Washington
came up big when they needed to. It's just that's
not sustainable. And I hate bringing this up, but I
do bring up the fact that they're winning these really
close games in the final minute or so. It's really

(13:54):
hard to continue to do that unless you're the Kansas
City Chiefs.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
Yes, Tod.

Speaker 9 (13:59):
Is it a soft more slump thing or is it
that you get figured out after the first year and
out of there's video on these guys and adjustments are
made and all of a sudden they're not this shocking
and surprise to see what they're going to do your.

Speaker 4 (14:08):
Two yes, both of those, thank you.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
It's like the Texans, it just didn't feel like they
were going to be better this past year with the
previous year, and C. J. Stroud was wonderful, But man,
it's tough that second year after you surprise people. It's
like when a pitcher goes through the lineup one time
and all of a sudden he's like, man, I'm dominating.

(14:32):
Then all of a sudden you go through the second
time in the lineup and you don't make it all
the way through. They get a book on you. I
mean you have to bo Nix will have tells, tendencies
you know now to be different, The game plan will
be different, and I think that's where you want to
see this second year. For a lot of these teams

(14:54):
are quarterbacks. That's what you know, Drake may do you
take the next step up? Do defenses figure you out
a little bit more? It's a chess game. It's a
constant chess game.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
All right.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
Let me take a break. We got phone calls coming up,
best and worst of the weekend. What you saw that
you liked, you didn't like a lot of positive responses
to Happy Gilmore too, so thank you. No spoilers here.
I hope you enjoyed the movie, didn't hear from a
lot of people enjoyed the mustache and a couple of
sneaky scenes in there. I got a little more movie

(15:26):
time than I thought I was going to, and I
did send a note to Sandman.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
I said thank you, you know.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
Because a lot of that stuff just ends up in
the editing room, and you know, I hate to see
maybe an Oscar worthy performance fall to the wayside. But yeah,
I mean that'll be up to the Academy once again.
That'd be weird though, if I win an Academy Award,
but I can't win a Sports Emmy. Yes, yes, seen.

Speaker 5 (15:51):
Is there a minimum number of minutes on screen an
actor has to have in order to be considered for
an Oscar Hmmm, I think we let do.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
A little research on that. But I will say a
lot of people got one cameo. I didn't have one cameo,
Like I had a role in this movie. Recurring cameo? Yeah,
is that a new No, it wasn't. It wasn't a
recurring cameo because to me, it was a role. Like
you know, Chris Berman and Stephen A. Smith had felt
like that was a cameo. Mine was a role. You

(16:23):
were playing a part I was Yeah, I was not
playing myself.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
They were playing themselves once again, no spoilers, yes, Paul.

Speaker 11 (16:30):
For example, Anthony Hopkins, the great actor in Silence of
the Lambs only sixteen minutes of screen time, won Best
Supporting Actor.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
H Well, I'm not on sixteen minutes, probably on maybe
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Thank you, thank you, thank you. It was a stretch
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Speaker 3 (16:56):
Take a break.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
We'll talk to Grant next hour. We'll get to your
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Speaker 5 (20:14):
We've got the hopometer going up there right now. We
have it split between the AFC and the NFC only
teams that were under five.

Speaker 6 (20:21):
Hundred last year. Okay, okay.

Speaker 5 (20:24):
So the AFC you have Dolphins, Jets, Patriots, Browns, Colts, Jaguars, Titans, Raiders.
NFC you have Bears, Cowboys, Giants, Falcons, Panthers, Saints, Cardinals,
forty nine ers going up there right.

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Speaker 3 (20:40):
All right, hopometer.

Speaker 6 (20:43):
Yeah, it's very exciting.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
You know, like the Miami Dolphins, my hope is that
you are better because if not, then I wonder you're
gonna move on from your head coach can tu A
stay I think he said one season that he stayed healthy.
Tyreek Hill? Is he there for the long haul? It
feels like there's a whole lot writing on the Miami Dolphins,

(21:12):
North Carolina tar Heels Bill Belichick's first year there. I
think there were players and coaches asked if Bill Belichick's
girlfriend or his relationship with this younger woman is a distraction,
And they said no.

Speaker 3 (21:27):
Everybody said no, it wasn't. Who is going to say, at.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
North Carolina, one of your players or one of your
coaches going to go, yeah, it's a distraction. Hey really
And we ask everybody and we said, do you think
it'll be a distraction? No, not at all. Wow, that's
some really good reporting there. Okay, North Carolina. Do they

(21:52):
have how many games will be nationally televised?

Speaker 3 (21:55):
Pauli, Yeah, A.

Speaker 11 (21:56):
Couple of different reports over the weekend said they're going
to be have at least ten nationally televised games in
different day parts. They start the season. They host TCU
on ESPN, the big ESPN September first Monday night, eight
pm Eastern. So that's a standalone Oh yeah, before the
NFL season starts. But then they have games against like UCF, Clemson,

(22:17):
cal Virginia, Syracuse, Stanford, Duke. All of them are going
to be floated to ESPN or some other national outlets.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
Okay, but here's my take on. You know, it's one
thing to have Bill Belichick on the sidelines. He's not exciting.
I just want to know, is your team any good
because they can only show you so many times, and
then what are they really showing you.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
It's the same look that you had with Dion.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
Dion was animated, he had the shades on, had the
beard gone, he had Travis Hunter, he had Schadoor Sanders.
Now you had excitement there that yes, Dion on the sidelines,
and then Colorado and the product they put on the field.
How many times you tune in to see a coach
and how long do you tune in to see that coach?

Speaker 3 (23:08):
Yeah, Pauling, I was.

Speaker 11 (23:09):
Thinking about this because when Dion took over Colorado they
were really bad. I think maybe one in eleven or
one in twelve. Do you think the average sports fan
is rooting for Bill Belichick to do very well or
flame out?

Speaker 3 (23:24):
Flame out?

Speaker 12 (23:26):
It feels like that.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
Yeah, yeah, because this now, there's a lot of things
that are tied into this, just from me on the
outside looking at you start with his relationship with this
woman and what people will feel about them. You have
the all the greatest coach of all time, and look

(23:47):
what happened when Tom left.

Speaker 3 (23:49):
They were terrible.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
Oh you get you're gonna bring your genius to college football? Okay,
let's see what you got. So I think there's already
that kind of all right, let me see, let me
see what you got. I see how much of a
genius you really are. Because he was in the NFL
with the Cleveland Browns and that didn't go well.

Speaker 3 (24:11):
Like we we look at this and like spur Yer.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
Goes to the NFL and we're like, okay, see what
you got, and then it doesn't go well going from
you know, the NFL to college football. And it feels
like every year we'll say something about a player at
North Carolina, like they always it feels like you got
somebody who's going to be ranked pretty high. They're going
to be you know, they're going to be singled out.

(24:35):
Drake may Man. I mean, they've had players down through
history and then you go, wow, oh, Julius Pepper's that's right,
he went to North Carolina. Lawrence Taylor went there. Did
Albert Hainsworth go to North Carolina as well? Yeah, I
mean they've had these players, they just haven't had a
great program. And now you got Bill coming in there

(24:59):
and and I don't know what the over under is,
but they were a bold team. I think two of
the last three years with Mac Brown. They should be
good and you're in the ACC. I don't think it's
too hard to stand out. But it's gonna be a
lot of North Carolina football, Yes, Marvin.

Speaker 15 (25:22):
North Carolina football.

Speaker 9 (25:23):
Okay. The only thing I'm looking forward to is what
type of shoes is he going to be wearing? What
type of Air Jordan's he's going to be wearing. He's
probably gonna pay out the most dull pair of Air
Jordans you could possibly find.

Speaker 3 (25:32):
Black on black? Did they have black on black?

Speaker 15 (25:35):
I'm sure they do, But he'll probably be like gray.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
No, because his girlfriend is going to dress him up.
I think so, Yes, Yeah, I think that she's going
to try to spiff up his image a little bit
there be like.

Speaker 3 (25:50):
Bil, we need to wear the cutoff hoodie. Uh, it's
kind of my calling card. I feel comfortable in it,
I know. But you're National TV.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
Come on, let me come your hair and uh how
about a how about a you know at North Carolina
blue hoodie?

Speaker 15 (26:06):
Okay? How about that?

Speaker 11 (26:07):
Yeah, Paul, the day after you get he got hired,
we said he should have a unc cutoff hoodie and
they should put it on the website and sell it.

Speaker 12 (26:14):
For everybody should wear it?

Speaker 4 (26:16):
Great?

Speaker 2 (26:17):
Yeah yeah, so opens up the season national TV Monday
night standalone game. Is his girlfriend shown on TV.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
That first game? Todd, I'm gonna say no, all right, see.

Speaker 15 (26:37):
Yes, Marvin, I don't even think she's there, Paul.

Speaker 12 (26:44):
No by design?

Speaker 6 (26:46):
Mmm?

Speaker 3 (26:48):
Not by her design? Oh?

Speaker 4 (26:50):
Thanks?

Speaker 6 (26:51):
So pretty sure she's directing this, shar.

Speaker 3 (26:54):
She'll be in the TV truck.

Speaker 15 (26:55):
Take me, stand by me, Take me.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
Grenkowski set to join us coming up next hour. Fox
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(27:41):
Fox NFL Sunday, is the ambassador for the Team Mobile
Friday night, five g lights and it's a competition high
school football nationwide celebration of hometown pride. Team Mobile is
all involved. Gronk will talk to us about that. Good
to see you, Rob. What is the what was the
goal of veterans when you went to training camp?

Speaker 16 (28:05):
Oh, the goal of veterans is to show the younger
players the way, you know, be the leader out there
out on the football field and get that chemistry going
within you know, the team, within the organization and go
out there and show everyone how it's done out on.

Speaker 4 (28:23):
The football field and try to find ways.

Speaker 16 (28:26):
To get better, because you can make big jumps from
your rookie year to your second year. But when you're
a vet, you got to find those little tiny details
that can you know, make your game just a little
bit better. Compared to when a rookie is going into
a second year, you see big improvement, but you just
got to find those ways to stay in the league

(28:46):
and be better so you can stick around.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
Okay, but tell me what you didn't know your rookie year.

Speaker 16 (28:53):
Uh, the playbook, I can tell you that that was
number one. Also, understanding defenses, you know you can go
over defenses and meetings and understand what cloud coverage is,
what cover two coverages. But to truly understand a defense,
you got to get repetitions out on the football field.
You got to be able to go against that type

(29:14):
of speed, because it's different from when you're in college.

Speaker 4 (29:17):
When you get to the NFL.

Speaker 16 (29:19):
Man, it's like everything's going so fast, And I remember
that my first time I stepped down on the football field,
I was like, how am I going to deal with this?
Everything's just racing in my mind. These linebackers are so fast.
Usually I'm so much faster than everyone else. So it's
about getting the repetitions and the reps and going out
there and having the game slow down for you and
getting the field of the defenders out on the football field.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
Give me the defender. You had to keep your eye
out for.

Speaker 4 (29:46):
Oh, like I'm on my team or the opposition, just.

Speaker 16 (29:51):
You know, going against another team. Okay, I mean I
always had a battle with myself. That's what I always said.
If I was on point and I was feeling my game,
I felt like I could go against anyone else at any.

Speaker 4 (30:01):
Other time and dominate, you know.

Speaker 16 (30:04):
But if I wasn't on point if I wasn't feeling myself.
If I wasn't, I would say activated, you know, and
going full go.

Speaker 4 (30:12):
And I was feeling slow.

Speaker 16 (30:14):
I felt like I could get covered by any single
person in the league. There was one time in training camp,
I think it was my eighth year, going into training
camp with the New England Patriots, and I was getting
covered by undrafted free agents just because I wasn't feeling myself.

Speaker 4 (30:28):
My body wasn't cooperating with me.

Speaker 16 (30:30):
So the NFL is a lot more, you know, a
battle against yourself on a daily basis. It's hard to
beat up every single day, you know, especially with the
beating that you can take.

Speaker 4 (30:42):
You want to be activated.

Speaker 16 (30:44):
You want the muscles firing, and when they're not, I
feel like anyone can cover you at any given time,
but just opponents wise, I would say in the run
blocking game, though, Terrell Suggs was an absolute monster, absolute beast.
And it's not because he was just so wrong, you know,
and and scary looking. It's because he brought it every

(31:05):
single play and he had that burst off the ball.

Speaker 4 (31:07):
And same with von Miller.

Speaker 16 (31:09):
That dude was impossible to get your hands on because
he was.

Speaker 4 (31:12):
Just so quick.

Speaker 16 (31:13):
And that burst was just so lethal that you know
he had the advantage there.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
What is Travis Kelsey battling this year?

Speaker 16 (31:21):
Uh, Travis Kelce, what is he battling this year? I
would say he wants to win football games, that's for sure.
He wants to win another championship before he retires. So
he wants to get back to the Super Bowl, which
is a tough task to do. They'd already done it
three years in a row. Are they going to do
it four years in a row? They have a chance
for sure. I would also say that he wants to

(31:44):
go out there. I mean, I don't know, I don't know,
you know him personally like that that and I can't
really speak for him, but after watching, you know, last
year in the Super Bowl, I feel like he wants
to go out there and prove to everyone that he
still has a lot left in the tank and he
can go out there and compete at a high level,
which I truly believe he will, or else he want

(32:05):
to have came back to play football again this year.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
But at that position, how much of it is just
understanding body position. He's not going to be running by
guys the way he once did, so now it comes
down to football iq of how smart I can be.
And I don't know how much that plays or played
for you when you played that position later in your career.

Speaker 16 (32:28):
Well, that's kind of going back to your first question,
dan Is, when you were talking about what does a
veteran do going into a training camp, Well, it's fining
the little niches to stay around even though your skills
aren't up the par compared to when you were twenty
three twenty four years old. And that happened to me
my last couple of years, especially down in Tampa. It
was just knowing the niche of the game, knowing the defenses,

(32:50):
knowing where to be in zone coverage. Yeah, I wasn't
running by anyone in my stats weren't particularly like they
were when I was younger. But guess what I was
still contributing because I was blocking guys and also so
I was finding the space in the zone and making
the plays when my number was called Travis Kelce, Yeah,
he probably won't be making moves like he was back,
you know, four or five years ago, but the guy

(33:11):
knows the game of football. He's such a smart football
player and he has that connection in chemistry with Patrick
Mahomes as well, and that's what keeps him going. Every
once in a while, I'm sure he's gonna feel himself
and have.

Speaker 4 (33:22):
That boost to get by someone and run by someone.

Speaker 16 (33:26):
But overall, I would say his smarts of the game
of football is what keeps them around and what keeps
them at eighty plus catches by just finding the hole
and sitting down and just catching it and going up
the field for a first down.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
Rob grin Kowski four times Super Bowl champ, joining us.
What Super Bowl ring would you wear to the Hall
of Fame when you're inducted.

Speaker 16 (33:46):
Yeah, I would definitely wear my first Super Bowl ring
to the Hall of Fame. When we beat the Seattle
Seahawks and Super Bowl forty nine, it was hands down
one of the best Super Bowl games to be played.
We were down, we came back, the Seattle Seahawks came
back when we got up on them, and then the
final drive, obviously with the Malcolm Butler interception to seal
the deal.

Speaker 4 (34:05):
I contributed. I had a touchdown going into.

Speaker 16 (34:08):
The first half in the two minute drill.

Speaker 4 (34:12):
A Mondola had a touchdown, Julian had a touchdown.

Speaker 16 (34:15):
Our boy Shane Veren out of the backfield had like
ten catches, so it was an overall great team win,
and on top of it, it was one of the
best Super Bowls out there and it got me into
the Super Bowl club.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
But how surprised were you to be on the sidelines
watching Seattle throw that pass as opposed to give it
to Marshawn Lynch.

Speaker 16 (34:35):
Well, you got to give credit to Dante high Tower,
who has the biggest casts in the NFL.

Speaker 4 (34:40):
When he was playing.

Speaker 16 (34:41):
That they ran a similar They ran a play where
they handed it off the beast mode right before that,
and Dante high Tower made the tackle one on one
on beast modes, which.

Speaker 4 (34:51):
Is very very rare.

Speaker 16 (34:52):
But Dante high Tower is such a beast as well
that he was able to bring him down, so that
maybe kind of switched up the play call for that
final play that they had because he already got tackled
on the two yard line from Dante high Tower, I
mean to throw the ball as well.

Speaker 4 (35:08):
We were just prepared.

Speaker 16 (35:10):
Coach Belichick showed Malcolm Butler that play plenty of times
within the weeks following up to the Super Bowl, So
we were just a better prepared team.

Speaker 4 (35:19):
And that's when Coach Belichick's.

Speaker 16 (35:21):
Coaching comes into credit is because he had Malcolm Butler
prepared for that play, and that's why Malcolm Butler made
that spectacular move to have that interception.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
Wait, Dante high Tower has the biggest calves.

Speaker 4 (35:34):
He has monster calves. Yes, monster.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
Were you jealous of his calves?

Speaker 4 (35:42):
Julian sure was. He talked a bottom.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
Did you ever think that we would see this many
pictures of Brady with his shirt off in retirement?

Speaker 4 (35:51):
No, I would have never thought that. He was always
a little bit nervous to even take his shirt off in.

Speaker 6 (35:55):
The locker room.

Speaker 16 (35:57):
He had more of a dad bot when he plane.
But like, I feel like he got like trimmed up
a little bit. He kind of has a six pack.
All that baby fat and playing fat that he had
is totally off him.

Speaker 4 (36:10):
And he's looking good. He's worked. I think he changed
up his workout resume.

Speaker 16 (36:15):
Too, like Regie May and he's like lifting I think
more weights now so he looks better so he can
show it off.

Speaker 4 (36:21):
Man. He looking he's looking good right now. We're sixty
years old, he's.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
Not seventy, but he's on a yacht every every week.

Speaker 3 (36:29):
It feels like I mean, he deserves it.

Speaker 16 (36:31):
I mean, he put in twenty five plus years in
the NFL. You know he deserves to be on a
yacht every every single day.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
I love what you're doing with T Mobile the Friday
Night five G Lights. So explain the competition and what's
at stake here.

Speaker 16 (36:46):
Yes, Team Mobile five Friday Night five G Lights is
back and we're taking it to a whole other level.
And it's its second year with more winners, more prizes,
and ultimately more ways to showcase home town pride and
empower communities. And what T mobile is doing is that
if you're a small town high school, you can enter

(37:08):
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Mobile and tea mobile is given away to twenty five
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Speaker 4 (37:20):
High schools will be receiving.

Speaker 16 (37:21):
Five thousand dollars, and if you win the grand prize
for Friday Night five G Lights, you will win over
a million dollars in prizes, which is ultimately a brand
new high school football stadium, a brand new Gronk fitness
or weight room as well, you know Grant Fitness. You

(37:42):
gotta plug my family's product right there, and you gotta
stay strong and you gotta stay fast.

Speaker 4 (37:47):
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Speaker 16 (37:48):
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Speaker 2 (38:00):
Brought up Dante High Tower with that stomp on Beast mode.
But then High Tower has the sack on Matt Ryan
in the Super Bowl as well.

Speaker 16 (38:07):
Right, Yeah, we called Dante High Tower playoff Dante Playoffs
or it was something like that playoff Dante, because he
showed up every single time the playoffs came.

Speaker 4 (38:19):
If he was in the training room, you know, in
the regular season a little bit, it didn't matter.

Speaker 16 (38:23):
We knew that we could count on Dante High Tower,
and he came through in Atlanta versus the Atlanta Falcons
in that Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (38:30):
Unfortunately, I had been playing that one.

Speaker 16 (38:32):
I was having a great year and then I went
up to see him in Earl Thomas, the absolute missile.

Speaker 4 (38:37):
Of a guy that he is.

Speaker 16 (38:38):
He hit me when I was going up to see
Hm full speed and punctured my lung and broke my
back basically in half. So I was out for that
Super Bowl, and then obviously he came through in the
Super Bowl forty nine as well when he stopped Beastmoke.

Speaker 3 (38:53):
I know you got your podcast with Julian Edelman.

Speaker 4 (38:56):
I was.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
I still can hear Cam Chancellor hit Edelman when he
made the catch, you know, going over the middle, and
then he ended up running like what's seven yards after that.
It's one of the hardest hits that I've heard grunk
and Edelman said he wasn't concussed. I still think he

(39:19):
had a concussion.

Speaker 4 (39:21):
Put it this way.

Speaker 16 (39:22):
That just shows you know what type of player Julian
Adelman is.

Speaker 4 (39:27):
It just shows his toughness as well.

Speaker 16 (39:28):
He got absolutely cremated across the middle by one of
the hardest hitting safeties and not just hardest hitting safety,
is one of the biggest safeties and athletic safeties they'll
play the game of football. And he got right up
to keep on running. That just shows how trained and
how programmed that he is and how bad that he
wants to win, you know, the game of you know,

(39:50):
win the games when he's playing the game of football,
especially with the Super Bowl on the line. I think
he got concussed as well, But Julian Edelman is an
absolute fighter and absolute dog, and that's why he has
three Super Bowl rings as well.

Speaker 3 (40:03):
Well.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
He ended up having that catch against Atlanta, the ricochet
that was. I mean, so we're talking about you know,
Brady and Belichick get all the credit, and you know
they should get most of it, but you're talking about
other players who make these small Malcolm Butler, like these
small little things you you know, Ammondola, Like, that's what
sometimes I think gets lost with great teams is having

(40:27):
the other people that fill in kind of you know
the gray area there.

Speaker 16 (40:32):
Yeah, definitely, And you know, but we've all gotten plenty
of credit and we're all not looking for more credit
because we receive plenty of credit as well. Julian Edelman
receives plenty of credit.

Speaker 4 (40:44):
Amondola.

Speaker 16 (40:45):
Every time we see each other, we reminisce about our
championships and about playing together. But I just want to
go back to that catch as well with Julian Edalman
with the Atlanta Falcons, and and also you saw him
get leveled by Cam Chancellor basically can cause and keep going.
That just shows the determination that Julian Edelman has. You

(41:06):
see other guys in playoffs, they don't come through with
that little with that catch that they need to to keep.

Speaker 4 (41:13):
That drive going in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 16 (41:15):
I'm not going to bring up any situations, but it
happened a couple times last year in the playoffs. But
a guy who wants to win, who wants it so
bad and he just digging for it and doesn't want
to go lose and go back to that locker room losing.

Speaker 4 (41:31):
That's a guy like Julian Edelman.

Speaker 16 (41:33):
And when you're determined like that, you're gonna make those
plays and you're gonna.

Speaker 4 (41:37):
Make that catch to keep the drive going.

Speaker 16 (41:39):
And it's because Julian Edelman wanted it more than anyone else.

Speaker 4 (41:43):
So thank you Julian for coming through in those situations.

Speaker 3 (41:46):
How many North Carolina football games are you going to
go to this year?

Speaker 16 (41:49):
It's going to be tough because I'm obviously doing the
Fox pre game show this year, so I'll be definitely
tuning in no doubt about that. I'm gonna wish coach
Belichick well, I want to see him win because it's
just kind of like the Dion Sanders effect a little bit,
just brings full you know, college football to the table
and makes it that much more interesting, and coach Balichick
also has that effect. So if he's winning, it's going

(42:11):
to bring that North Carolina vibe to a whole other level,
and you're gonna want to tune in, and you're gonna
want to follow, and it's gonna be fun.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
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high school. Friday Night Lights Friday Night, five G Lights,
Friday Night, five G Lights dot com.

Speaker 3 (42:28):
Gronk, great to talk to you again.

Speaker 4 (42:29):
Good luck with this, all right, Dan always pleasure man,
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (42:33):
Rob Gronkowski. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
I go back to like these small things where you
just go that guy did this. You know that the
Edelman catch against Atlanta is one of the greatest catches
in Super Bowl history. I mean it's just like it's
you don't even when you watch it, and then you
watch it again, you go, I don't know how he
did that.

Speaker 3 (42:55):
I don't know how it was possible. I got it.
I got it. Yeah, I don't tell you I got it.
I know. It's a great moment.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
I know, but you get those He's talking about Veren
getting ten catches. Nobody talks about a lot of these guys,
certainly New England running backs and the value that you
had of them catching passes because that was their running
game for a lot of these Super Bowl years.

Speaker 15 (43:17):
Yes, Marvin, also a guy like James White and the
Ilanta super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
Would have been the MVP. Should have been the MVP
in my opinion. Yeah, little thing. Stat of the day
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your mind today?

Speaker 4 (43:34):
A day?

Speaker 7 (43:34):
First time, long time, six, one, two twelve. Well, wondering
what you think about the buzz in Hollywood after the
wonderful success of Happy gyolmore too, with the comparison of
you and a Sandler being compared to Redford and Newman.

Speaker 3 (43:50):
H Well, I'm not surprised, thank you, will Yeah, it's
Tommy Newman and Skip Redford.

Speaker 4 (43:59):
Charles.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
Yeah, not the you know, the Newman in Redford you're
thinking of Dave in Arkansas.

Speaker 17 (44:09):
They call me Pittsburgh Days, the official ambassador of the
seven times, yes, seven time super Bowl Championship winning Pittsburgh Theaters.
That tells you where I'm thinking this team's going.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
Wait, are you okay that you know?

Speaker 2 (44:28):
Terry Bradshaw took some shots at Aaron Rodgers before he
got there. Aaron, you know, took the high road and
just said, hey, Terry doesn't know me. Maybe he needs
to sit down and get.

Speaker 15 (44:38):
To know me.

Speaker 17 (44:39):
I can live with it, you know, it's not that's
the men are their own they reach their own animal
all of all. Let them go in that.

Speaker 3 (44:47):
Okay.

Speaker 17 (44:48):
So I got a best and the worse for you, okay,
best charity charity tournament this weekend. Hit a home on
one and the worst of the weekend. I hit it
on the wrong hole.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
Yeah, So explain Dave that you were lined up to
hit it to one hole and you ended up hitting
it to another green.

Speaker 17 (45:17):
No, no, no, miss, you're missing my point. I hit it
on number thirteen, which was that was fine. I got
a hole in one on number thirteen. Had I hit
it on number sixteen?

Speaker 3 (45:28):
Oh, then you get it to sixteen.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
Oh that's not as good of a story, Dave.

Speaker 3 (45:36):
Congrats on your hole in one.

Speaker 2 (45:37):
But I thought you had a hole in one on
another green that you weren't even aiming for.

Speaker 3 (45:42):
But all right, you.

Speaker 2 (45:44):
Got it on thirteen, you get it on sixteen. Then
you know you get cash prizes there. Rich in the
Athens Hi, Rich, what's on your mind today?

Speaker 4 (45:53):
DP?

Speaker 3 (45:54):
Great and talk with you guys.

Speaker 18 (45:56):
I was just telling your producer, like Garfield, I don't
like Monday, but you got to have Rob Gronkowski on
the show.

Speaker 17 (46:05):
A lot more.

Speaker 18 (46:05):
That guy got me fired up. He was a great
interview and if you had him on every Monday, I'm
tuning in guarantee that guy's is incredible.

Speaker 4 (46:15):
Great interview.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
All right, Well, see what we can do. I mean,
I can only take them when they're available, try to
lock them in. We don't pay anybody, so if they
show up, great. Love to have Gronk on. He's always
been good. And as soon as he says his first
couple of words like he's just Gronk, he just that's
who he is.

Speaker 3 (46:38):
Yeah, PAULI.

Speaker 11 (46:39):
Sometimes we were talking about it while you're during the interview,
which was so much fun. He doesn't even seem like
a real person. He seems like a character.

Speaker 12 (46:45):
You'd create for a TV show about football, But that's him.

Speaker 4 (46:48):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
And going in the Hall of Fame, you know, when
you're in the short discussion of greatest tight end of
all time, you know, is Travis Kelcey going to be
recognized as greatest tight end of all time? Does Tony
Gonzalez get shorted because he didn't have postseason success? Like
Tony Gonzalez's numbers are bonkers, they're Jerry Riceian, but he

(47:17):
didn't have postseason success. Kelsey had it, Gronk had it.
That sometimes is the difference. We can look at regular
season numbers, but postseason numbers will overshadow those regular season
numbers for some players.

Speaker 3 (47:31):
He has pol.

Speaker 11 (47:32):
Gronk has six hundred and twenty one receptions in his
career in eleven years, which is well below some of
those guys you talked about. Because of injury, he played
only four completely healthy seasons. However, if you change the
semantics and say when they played, who was the best
tight end of all time? Gronk's probably winning that one.
Like at their.

Speaker 2 (47:51):
Peak, Yeah, because even in Tampa, all they cared that
Gronk was healthy for the postseason. It didn't matter the
regular season. It was just be healthy for the postseason.
I'm going to go to you a couple of times
and you're gonna get touchdowns, and that's all Brady cared about.
Because Gronk couldn't stay healthy with the way he played

(48:12):
couldn't stay healthy, and he had these defensive backs that
were going in low. I mean he had he had
some really serious injuries and he came in with a
bad back. I think that's why he went in the
second round because he had a back issue at Arizona.
But Kelsey have a thousand catches, PAULI, can we check

(48:35):
on that? But Tony Gonzalez is gosh, he just did
it every single season, yes, Marv.

Speaker 9 (48:43):
And I feel bad for Tony Gozalees because he was
the Kansas City tight end before Mahomes and it was like, oh,
born too early.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
But he put up those numbers before Mahomes got there.
With Berdie Croyle, Brody Croyle, Elvis Gerbach.

Speaker 15 (49:00):
Tran Green had to run for a little bit with him.

Speaker 3 (49:02):
He did, Yeah, do you have Kelsey's catches?

Speaker 12 (49:06):
PAULI, Yeah, we're getting him up right now. He has
one thousand and four career catches.

Speaker 3 (49:13):
Oh so just went over one thousand.

Speaker 11 (49:15):
Oh yeah, and he had ninety seven last year his
first season in the league, he didn't play a game. Yeah,
and then since then one thousand and four catches.

Speaker 4 (49:24):
Yea.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
And wasn't he a quarterback in college at the University
of Cincinnati.

Speaker 11 (49:30):
I think part of his recruitment he was like somewhat
positionless his first year.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
Yeah, but I think he came in as a quarterback
and then they put him as a tight end.

Speaker 3 (49:39):
But you know, I go back to Ditka.

Speaker 2 (49:42):
Mike Ditka was the first tight end that was different
getting down the field. It wasn't just blocking at John
Mackie was another one that could catch a pass and
take at the distance.

Speaker 3 (49:54):
Then it sort of changed.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
I think Kellen Winslow the second where it became a
weapon where you're not a blocker, you're just a bigger
version of a wide receiver.

Speaker 3 (50:05):
Jimmy Graham was that way.

Speaker 4 (50:07):
For me.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
I didn't view him as a tight end. It felt
like he was just a larger wide receiver. But the
position has evolved and it feels like you got to
have at least one tight end, and some of these
teams subscribe to having two of them.
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