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It's our one on this Tuesday, Dan and the Dan.
That's Dan Patrick Show, our starting lineup, the Minister of Humor,
Fritzie Seat, and Marv PAULI years truly did receive a
letter from I guess a fan who said, forty minutes
of berating Todd on a certain day, and you wonder
why you don't win a Sports Emmy. Well, if that's
(00:26):
the case, then we're never gonna win a Sports Emmy, Todd.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
It's just not in the cards.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
Yeah, I know, I know.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
One of these days though, one of these days, it
just it all comes to an end, and then you're
gonna miss that. You're gonna miss me talking to you.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Be rated. I don't think i'd berate you, No, but.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
I'll be a lost soul wandering the street waiting for
random people to have start up with me about it.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
I don't know what the word is or the words
are to describe our relationship.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
I like poke, we poke, Yeah, we prod. We have fun.
I call it love.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
It's playful.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
I call it a relationship.
Speaker 5 (01:02):
Yes.
Speaker 6 (01:02):
Seton the definition of berate is to scold or criticize
someone angrily.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
I'm not angry at you. No, you do it with
a smile. Yes, yeah, yeah. But if I don't talk
to you, then who does Todd?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
That's a good point.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Now I don't really have no friends. We all know
that you have no friends.
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eight seven seven three DP Show operator Tyler is sitting by.
He'll take your phone calls. The press conference yesterday with
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Dion Sanders. It was not football related, and I had
given you heads up that this was going to be
a medical update. And there were wide ranging reports speculation
on Deon Sanders' future as a head coach. Being able
to actually walk the sidelines, and we know that he
had a couple of toes amputated, there were a blood
(02:30):
clot that was a couple of years ago, but this
was something different. This was bladder cancer. And those close
to him, at least one person that I spoke to yesterday,
said that that he was He wasn't Prime, He wasn't
coach Prime. He was Dion and obviously very concerned about this.
(02:52):
So it took on a whole different tone behind the
scenes from what I was told yesterday of this is
the this is about living, This is about quality of life.
And I don't think we understood the severity. And he
was being private with this, but he was also sharing
this with some of his close friends because Prime has confidence.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Prime walks in the room and you know he's there.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
This was different, and he was asked yesterday about this
cancer and coming back from it being able to coach.
Speaker 7 (03:27):
I always knew I was going to coach again. I
never didn't realize I was going to coach again. I
was always going to coach. It was never in my
spirit in my heart that God wouldn't allow me to
coach again. He never thought like that.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Yeah, I was told that privately, though he did wonder
if he was going to be able to do that.
Could he walk the sidelines, would he be in a
press box? So you know, the mortality. This one of
the great athletes of our generation. And then all of
a sudden you look at him. He's lost a couple
of toes, had a blood clot, bladder cancer. We're all mortal.
(04:05):
I think it hit me really, really hard years ago.
And I mentioned this last week when I saw Earl
Campbell and we were in Houston for the Super Bowl
and he was in a wheelchair, and it just I
don't know why it hit me so hard. And then
I run into Jim McMahon and Tahoe and Jim talking
about that maybe you know, he was going to have
(04:25):
to get his leg amputated, part of his leg amputated.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
We sort of live in this world.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Sometimes we're in a vacuum and we don't look at
what is life as much as we look at what
is sporting life to us, who they are to us
when we see them on the field. It's when we
see them off the field, and you'll see some of
these players and they're really beat up. And with Dion,
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you first time I saw, you know, his feet, he
took his shoes off and showed us and he had
turf toe. And at that, you know, you don't think
turf toe is going to slow down one of the
greatest athletes of all time. But it did. And so
he had to get these toes amputated. And then you
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have the blood clot now with bladder cancer. But he's
going to be there on the sidelines, and that was
great news. It was a relief, I think more than anything,
because privately I was told, you know, maybe it's fifty
to fifty if he's going to coach again, and he
wants to be prime. He wants to be coach prime.
He doesn't want to be out there not able to
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be that person, that confident person on the sidelines. And
I think maybe there was a little bit of trepidation
with that or concern over that. The other story yesterday,
Manhattan shooting suspect said to have had CTE had a
note that mentioned the NFL goes into the headquarters in
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New York City. A twenty seven year old man. He
killed four people wounded. A fifth and this was at
the home office of the NFL. This is on Park Avenue,
three four five Park Avenue. So he takes the wrong elevator.
He wants to go up to the NFL offices. He
takes the wrong elevator, but he apparently was blaming the
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NFL for his injury. CTE. You know, it's the brain
disease that is linked to repeated hits to the head.
He was a high school player, played in Canada, and
he had a history of head trauma. But he casually
walks in and I don't know if that's an AR
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or an AK, doesn't matter, but he's just walking in
as if he's walking into work. The preliminary investigation, according
to the Mayor of New York City, is the man
took the wrong elevator. He wanted to go to NFL headquarters.
Instead he went to rudent management and that's where he
(07:09):
started shooting people.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
A fifth shooting victim taken.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
To the hospital in critical condition, is out of surgery
and right now in stable condition. But this man had
some issues back in twenty twenty two and twenty twenty four,
with law enforcement sources saying the yet two mental health
crisis holds on his background, where they normally keep you
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I think for up to seventy two hours because they're
a danger to themselves. But scary moment obviously, and four
lives were lost yesterday. We haven't talked about CTE in
a while after the lawsuit. It's still there. We've seen
Tua and what's happened to him with a couple of
concussions there. It's quieted down, but it's almost because the NFL,
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in that billion dollar lawsuit said, after this, you're kind
of signing up and you know.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
Exactly what you're getting.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
It's sort of like when you see the warning on
the side of cigarettes, like it's there. Surgeon General says,
you probably shouldn't do this, but we've gotten better helmets.
I think that, you know, the medical approach is not
to put your head in the sand or act like
it doesn't exist. The guardian caps, which I think if
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we started out with that, nobody would have a problem
with that. It just we look at them and it
doesn't feel like that's football for some reason. But I
think if somebody comes along and is able to modify those,
to streamline it a little bit and make them look
more like a helmet.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
I don't think we'll have a problem with it.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
I mean, imagine the football players who put a face
mask on, It's like, what are you doing that for?
I don't know, Maybe saved my face, I don't know,
you look pretty weird. Or Jacques Plant when he put
on a goldie mask and they probably went and do
you see what Jacque's gone on?
Speaker 4 (09:10):
He's got a mask.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
After a while, it just becomes the norm and and
hopefully if that cuts down on CTE, because it is
it's just a terrible, terrible I mean, it's debilitating for
these poor people. Uh you know, you start to look
at what it does to you. You know some of
the symptoms, uh you know, you you get mood swings, memory, laws,
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you I mean it leads to other things as well.
Seeing you know, these great football players and they have
to be fed, they have to be taken care of,
you know, the wife who is all of a sudden
taking care of you know, this person, or you have
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to put him in a you know, facil assisted living.
It's real, it's still there. Hopefully they continue with the progress,
but you know it's still the risk will still be there.
But this man who's twenty seven years of age, had
suffered apparently some brain damage CTE and killed four people
(10:19):
yesterday in New York City. All right, eight seven seven
three DP Show email address dpat Danpatrick dot com, twitter
handle at DP show. We'll check in with one of
our good buddies, Daniel Jeremiah, former NFL scout, does a
great job for NFL Network. He's been to a couple
of camps, and we'll talk to him. There was a
(10:39):
signing yesterday Cortland Sutton got signed by the Broncos. And
I found this interesting because I love Terry McLaurin. I
think he's a wonderful player. I think he's, you know,
kind of battled through all the chaos and nonsense with
Washington five straight seasons of a thousand receiving yards, and
he's been in league for seven years, and he produces.
(11:03):
He wants to get paid. He's thirty years of age,
same age I believe as Courtland Sutton. Sutton got paid
yesterday by the Broncos. And Courtland Sutton is not as
good as Terry McLaurin, and I hope that now he's
got a hold in. He's showed up at camp doesn't
want to get fined. But that was one of those
where Denver signed up Courtland Sutton had no problem with that,
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but the commanders not with Terry McLaurin and mclauren was
great before they got Jayden Daniels. He was almost the
constant there, and I like when those players get taken
care of. Hopefully Trey Hendrickson gets paid. He did everything
he was supposed to do, and hopefully the Bengals will
sign him. Not always the case. There's sometimes when players
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ask for more money or they have two years left
on their deal and they get paid, and usually that
comes back to Haunt management there Seeton, what's.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Poll question today? Well, we got two of.
Speaker 6 (12:03):
Them here, and I think we're gonna get them both
after the break. Oh okay, all right, after the break? Wow,
this is after the break and two Todd, have you
seen Happy Gilmour too?
Speaker 3 (12:21):
I have not just said I was thinking about maybe
saving it for the weekend action because I don't really
have much of a life.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
On the weekend. So the next time I'm in a
really big movie, then maybe a one.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
I may see it one of these weeknights, but I
may save it for like a Saturday kind of thing
because I've got a little dinner and then it could
be a Saturday night showcase at my house.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
Okay, you and Paulie holding out? Yeah, paul I do
have an update.
Speaker 8 (12:42):
My daughter and I watched the first movie That's like
and she told me, how did you not show me
this before? Now we're ready for part Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
But I wasn't in the original.
Speaker 8 (12:52):
Which is a mistake on their end.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
It is, it is, but they Sandler learned that.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Yes, Sandler learned from his mistake, and then he put
me in a Happy Gilmore two. The update I got
is they're looking at somewhere between ninety and one hundred
million streams Unhappy Gilmore too the first week.
Speaker 6 (13:10):
That sounds like a good number, y.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
Yes it is. That's a very good number.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Yes, it doesn't mean anything to my bottom line because
I do this. It's more of a charity that I
do it. I do it for Sandler and his children
so they have a better life. Helping out a friend. Yes,
that's what I don't. I don't charge an exorbitant rate.
It's just basically I'm here to give.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Yes, Tom, you need to sit down with the saman
for a future g where you get a little back
end off of you get a certain streaming number.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
It's too late for that. It's too late for that.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Although Sandler did buy Rock and David Spade and Rob
Schneider their favorite car a couple of years ago, well
it's a few years ago because of all their contributions
to his movies. And I said to Sandler, you know,
if I get to twenty movies, I kind of like
that car. Well I blew past twenty movies, no car.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
You know what.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Paully suggests that maybe Sandman would lease a car for me.
Speaker 8 (14:11):
Nice thirty nine month, yeah, twelve thousand miles.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Yeah, it'd be nice, you know, nice payment plan. I'd
be fine with that. Just you know, just a gesture there.
That's all, just a nice little danny. I didn't buy
you a car, but maybe he's got to buy cars
for his daughters, his two daughters, of course, but buy
a horse for his wife, you know.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
AnyWho.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Okay, I shouldn't be turning it into a negative. I'm
in one of the biggest movies this year of all time.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Yes, time, you already have the pontoon boat, maybe like
a souped up canoe. Is there something you can send
a Maine for you as as a backup deal to
your pontoon boat if he doesn't want to go car.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Why why are you joking that? Jo feels like you're
joking about this.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
I think that would be a lovely gesture, something for
the water.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
See, this is why i'd be rate you, because you
make fun of me. Your words hurt.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
I'm just saying it doesn't have to be a car.
He can you know, he can get your golf card.
You can get you some kind of little boats.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
Golf cart would be fine. Yes.
Speaker 6 (15:11):
I think this is what people mean when they say
you're gas lighting someone. You're gas lighting Todd right now.
Oh I'm oh, but what was he doing to me?
You're because you're you're saying to Todd things like you know, Todd,
your words hurt, they do hurt. That's that's when you're
you're gas lighting toddeh gaslight Yeah, because your words hurt Dan.
Oh okay, and now you're you're like throwing it back
(15:33):
in Todd's face. I think this is what maybe one
of the things people mean when they say forty minutes
of B rating. I think this would go under the
B rate umbrella.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
You're turning the script a little bit there.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
But what but what role did Todd play in this though?
Now you're blaming the victim.
Speaker 8 (15:49):
Your victim, blaming yeah, being here, being alive.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
I'm the victim here, showing up every day. I'm the victim.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
You took it as me being like poking. You were
being sarcastic. I was being legitimately, here's some other options.
That's sand on my that's a nice president. It turns
it into a thing.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Just felt like negativity, felt like you were gaslighting me. Yes, okay,
as being the weak victim.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
I apologize if vehicle suggestions.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
Thank you. I appreciate that. That's the way it should be.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Okay, when we come back, they long awaited Pulsey suggestions,
whole question suggestions there. All right, Well, take a break.
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Speaker 2 (17:46):
We only have twelve employees total in here, and there's
a lot of space in the man cave. But you know,
usually during the commercial break, so I like to walk
around and like, just evesdrop, I'm listening. And then we
have Rob who were works in the back. He works
on the newsletter among other things, and he said a
few weeks ago that he could beat Zion Williamson in
(18:08):
a one hundred meter dash, and of course everybody was
like what, and he goes yes, And then I just
walked back through.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
It's called the bullpen. So Ray is there and Dylan's there.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Weeks are cameraman during the commercial break, Marvin was there
and all of a sudden, I hear I would cream
Zion Williamson in a five K. So now it's gone
from a one hundred meter dash to a five K.
And Marvin, you were there as the ear witness.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
I can't repeat what I said, but yes, I was
there to witness it.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
I don't know how this started that all of a sudden,
a Knicks fan and he's going to call out Zion
Williamson and he could beat him in a hundred meter dash. Now, okay,
I the older I get the better I was. And
I'm always wanting to challenge you know people, certainly to
a shooting contest. I'm not gonna challenge somebody to one
(19:04):
hundred meter dash or five k certainly who was a
professional athlete like that. But and I wanted to see
who was the fastest person in the building. And I
think I was giving what five hundred dollars? Is that
what it was to whoever is the fastest Because this
started with one of our backroom guys, one of the brgs,
that he was claiming, if you can beat Zion Williamson,
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who I think ran a four to six forty or
you know, something like that, then you probably are the
fastest guy in the building. And I was willing to
put five hundred dollars and then he says, no, I
don't want to do that, but I would race Zion Williamson.
There's always entertainment in every nook and cranny in this place.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
Yes, Paul, A.
Speaker 8 (19:48):
Couple of details for background. We have not reached out
to Zion yet. We weren't sure how to package this offer. Fritzy,
that's on you. Zion listed at six six to eighty
four coming out of college. We do not have any
measurements of his speed. I can't find he's ever run
and been timed, no combine or anything. Okay, but there's
a lot of speculation. I saw some video of him
(20:10):
comparing him to other guys running down the court, and
he's amongst the quicker guys.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
In the league.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
And somebody's on record is saying, who wasn't Marvin who
talked about Zion's quickness Baron Fox so de Aaron Fox
said that Zion would be the quickest, uh, one of
the quickest, one of the quickest at the fore position.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
Correct, Okay, that's believable.
Speaker 6 (20:35):
Yeah, See, the average NBA player runs about two and
a half to three miles a game. Okay, Uh, A
five k is a little over three miles. I feel
like Zion is probably in that type of shape for sure.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
I'm going to guess he could run a five K.
I'm gonna guess he can run a five K.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
And I'm gonna guess that he might be able to
run at a decent pace. I don't I don't know
about the one hundred meter dash, but I would love
to have everybody who would like to be involved in that.
We tried to set this up months ago that we
would have one hundred meter dash. I don't know if
any of the dan nets. I think Marvin said that
he would run. It's seating you run as well. Yeah,
(21:19):
and then there's a couple of guys in the back
who claim that they could run pretty fast, but five
hundred dollars. See who's the fastest person in the building
one race.
Speaker 11 (21:28):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
I'm not going to have heats. Hold on, you're not well.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
I would have I would have probably three groups of
four and then we would just do times the fastest
time or I would do the winner of each of those,
you know, heats. Then they would face off for the
grand prize of five hundred dollars. Does that sound okay?
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Maybe even top two of each heat? No, no, no,
only one.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
I'm all about winning, about participating, yes, Seaton or yes, Paul.
Speaker 8 (22:02):
If you were doing Olympic style, you could have three
heats of four, the winner of each heat and the
best time would be the fourth person of the finals.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
Okay, Olympic style.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Once again, this doesn't happen unless Rob one of the
brgs decides to run. Because I don't want this to
be oh, such and such one Rob didn't and then
Rob goes, yeah, but I didn't run in it.
Speaker 8 (22:25):
Yes, Pauling and the I team has never seen Rob
do anything but sit in that chair and edit over
the past two years. He does a fine job, but
I've never seen him really move or stand since.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
I bet, I have not seen anything athletic. He doesn't
do pickleball, he doesn't do basketball. I don't think he
did whiffle ball.
Speaker 8 (22:41):
Zion six six two eighty five Rob five eight one
forty is the estimate.
Speaker 6 (22:46):
Okay, yes, seton Yeah, I haven't seen any estimates either
on If an NBA player runs two and a half
miles per game a video editor per shift, that mileage
I think is significantly less.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
You're mileage may You're mileage may very Uh yes, tod.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
It's also easy to break or show courage about a
contest that will never actually happen when you're throwing out
something that's a that's the likelihood.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
Taking a shot.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
That should be sair.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
Somebody's gonna say it.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
When I sit next to Billie Joel the piano, I
will totally outplay him, which I know will never have.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Speaking of health, looking good, uh, Luca is on the
cover of Men's Health, and all of a sudden, people
are going, WHOA, wait a minute here, somebody got in shape. Yes,
and I wonder if does Men's Health reach out to
Luca or vice versa. But Luca and his people working
in conjunction with Men's Health. He's on the cover, and
(23:45):
immediately I was seeing the reaction and social media was saying, yeah,
but they can photoshop that. Well then I saw him
at Yankee Stadium with Aaron Judge. Well, they didn't photoshop that.
He looks he looks thin, he looks felt, talks about
his whole workout routine, and he was one of those
(24:05):
guys that felt like in the and Larry Bird did this.
Larry Bird famously played softball and drank beer in the
off season, and then they would use training camp to
get in shape. Well, I think Luca just played basketball.
I don't know if he's ever lifted weights. I saw
that there was a report that the place that he
(24:26):
works out didn't have barbells and dumbbells, didn't have weights
basically until recently, and then Luca started working out. And
you know, most of this is diet, just eating right.
You know what you drink, how much you drink, how
much water, you know, all of those things.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
But he looks good.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Prior to this, even seeing this and seeing this article,
I said he'll be the MVP this year. I truly
believe that he'll be the MVP because he's gotten to
that window where we did this to Joker, we did
it to Giannis, we did it to Joel n B.
When are you going to be the best player? When
are you going to be the MVP? Now, we also asked,
(25:11):
when are you going to win a title? Well, he
went further than Joe Ellenbid did, and Bid got his MVP.
Jannis got his MVP and won a title, a couple MVPs.
Joker a few MVPs got his title. Now it's Luca's
turn because he just saw Shay Gilgess Alexander get the
MVP and get his title, and they're around the same age. Now,
(25:34):
all of a sudden, we're saying Shay Gilgess is better
than Luca. We're saying Anthony Edwards is better than Luca.
And I'd say, hold on here, hold on, he's better
than Anthony Edwards. If you said you can have Anthony
Edwards or Luca right now, I would take Luca wouldn't
even think about it. Anthony Edwards is a highlight. He's
got a There's another step for him to take, and that's,
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you know, the maturity aspect of this, to want to
be a leader, to act like a leader. He's a
wonderfully talented player, but I don't think he's better than Luca.
Shay Gilgis say, Shay has proven to be a leader.
He's a guy who goes out and does it every
single night. And he got his team, you know, to
the NBA Championship, So he's going to be ranked higher
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than Luca. Even though I hate these lists where we're
ranking players. I would take Shay Gilgis because I can
count on him. But I think this is that year.
This is the biggest year of Luca's life because we're
kind of on the exit strategy end of Lebron's career.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
And who knows what he's saying.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
He was he was on a yacht with the Joker's
agent and his agent and talking about basically twenty twenty six. Okay,
I don't know what the cryptic message means. Feels like, hey,
you know, maybe I'll go to Dallas. You know, I
got my Frank Hyrie's there, and Anthony Davis is there,
and you know I can help Cooper flag and I
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have no idea, but it feels like Lebron knows this.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
Isn't your team.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
And if there was any question, the Lakers have answered
that because this is about Luca, and I think Luca
is saying to the Lakers, I understand my role here.
I understand what it means to be a leader, to
be I have this gift. I need to take care
of this. You don't want to look back and say
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I wish I would have put in the time, put
in the effort. And Luca looks great, and I think
that that says a lot about the off season.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
Now.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
I always go back to this. And as soon as
I saw the cover on Men's Health with Luca, the
first thing I thought of was when Michael Finley took
a beer out of Luca's hand after a game. Luca
is in the hallway outside the locker room and Michael Finley.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
Takes the beer out of his hand. There's cameras there.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Michael knew that Luca's just drinking beer, and that's what
I thought of. Well, now somebody's pushing you and I
thought working with Lebron, seeing Lebron the time that he
puts in that by proxy, Luca would want to be
in better shape to know he has to be in
better shape and look out NBA. Kyrie tells the story
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of Luca and he says, there was a practice where
Luca scored twenty four points in three minutes. He was
cooking somebody that badly. It's hard to score twenty four points,
let alone twenty four points in three minutes. But Kyrie said,
it's one of those moments where you go, damn, I
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got the MVP odds according to DraftKings, Joker and then
SGA and then it's Luca, so Joker plus two hundred,
SGA plus two fifty, Luca plus six point fifty. Then
it's Giannis, Anthony Edwards, Victor wemban Yama and Kate Cunningham
Victor Wembanyama in the next two years, and I think
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after that it's his MV PIG. I just feel like
what he's going to do is going to be game changing.
A couple of phone calls in here get started. Let's
see Chris in Texas. Hi, Chris, what's on your mind?
Speaker 4 (29:26):
Wait?
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Did we come up with our pole questions. Yeah, oh,
I might even wait until after the next rain. Now,
can can it wait until after the next Let me
get to Chris in Texas, and then Seaton will come
up with the poll questions suggestions?
Speaker 4 (29:40):
All right, Hi Chris, Hey Dan, what's up? Hey?
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Hey?
Speaker 5 (29:47):
I just want to say this is a bucket list
on it for me because you have entertained me.
Speaker 12 (29:51):
Ever since I was a child. I'm not trying, I'm
not trying to get.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
Filled, but you're the man and today's bird. Oh and
I just want to say that I love everybody, but
suck it back row.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
Well, I've got to say that.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
And I'm and I wanted the way you six ten,
three fifty nine.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
All right, thank you CHROs. And also boom, that's all
I gotta say. All right, well, thank you Chris.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
How about we give Chris well, maybe the macro doesn't
want to give a he loves everybody but suck at
back row.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
Ready heavy birthday, birthday, Thank you Chris.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
Yes to.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
I'm wondering when someone does the suck at back row
a front row that they would need to elaborate a
little furthers to watch.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
Do you want that way?
Speaker 3 (30:41):
I think I do.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
Okay, maybe that would help us. It might help me.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
It's like you stop singing, you're not funny whatever, all
the million things I've heard that are negative. But maybe
you need to give a sense or two about why.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
Todd, we've been saying that to you for years, but
just throwing.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Out second front row, a second back round is hurtful.
I think you need to kind of step up with
a because and then just a stroke.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
Okay, all right, you ask for it, yes see and
se yeah, you know what.
Speaker 6 (31:02):
I kind of appreciate that, actually, because I feel like
I get a lot of suckets directed at me that
are really because I'm with Todd because it's a back row.
But it's really they're just saying Todd that they just
don't want to say.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
That out lost.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Fair fair, very fair point.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
I see Chris in Mississippi, Hi, Chris, how are you?
Speaker 4 (31:21):
Hey? Dan?
Speaker 10 (31:21):
What's up?
Speaker 4 (31:22):
Man? Hey?
Speaker 11 (31:23):
Uh? Longtime listener, first time caller six three. Appreciabod going
back to uh to what you were talking about with
with Dion and about how just it kind of struck
a chord with me about nobody knows what these athletes
are dealing with and everything like that just uh, I'm
pulling in the parking lot right now at my church,
and that, uh, that kind of relates to everybody. You
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just never know what anybody's dealing with, you know.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Yeah, And it once again when I was in Tahoe
and I saw Jim McMahon, former Bears quarterback, and he
was limping, had a smile on his face. But we
start talking about healthcare and he doesn't have health care
and he said that he showed me the X rays
of his leg and he said, yeah, they thought about
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amputating my leg. But he has a smile on his face.
But it just it stayed with men. It hit me
a lot harder because I've known Jim a long long time,
and you know, they're just like us.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
We don't.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
I mean, they'll say that, hey, I'm just like you,
and you're like, no, you're not. You're famous or you
got money or no, he's just like us, got health issues,
doesn't have health care from the NFL. So all of
the things that he did, and he was the punky
QB and he won a Super Bowl, I mean all
of those things, it doesn't matter now. It's like seeing
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Ryan Sandberg used to go to Cubs games. Didn't know Rhino,
but I would go there to hang out with Mark Grace,
who played first base, and you just watch somebody. He
was the other twenty three in town and Rhino was
a great player. He's gone at the age of sixty five. Yeah,
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there is mortality too, all of this, even though we
look at them differently. And you know, that's where it
hit me with Earl Campbell, and it hit me with
Jim McMahon, that they are when it's all said and done,
just like us.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
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Speaker 2 (33:36):
I was walking by and I saw on one of
the monitors the Mothership was asking the question, is Baker
Mayfield a top five NFC quarterback?
Speaker 4 (33:45):
Now?
Speaker 2 (33:46):
I'm not big on list rankings like that, but then
I said to PAULI, I said, do you agree Baker
Mayfield top five quarterback NFC? I said, would you take
him over Jordan Love? You said, yeah, would you take
him over Dak Prescott?
Speaker 4 (34:01):
No doubt? Okay.
Speaker 8 (34:03):
Baker's last two seasons forty one touchdowns and sixteen picks
last year.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Forty You know, would you take him over Jared golf
oh Man, No, would you take him over Jalen Hurts No?
Would you take him over Matthew Stafford Yes?
Speaker 8 (34:21):
Because of injury. Okay, Baker's reliable right now. It's like
he's at the point of career where we know what
he is. I think he's twenty nine. All cleaned up.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Daniel Jeremiah, NFL network analyst and co host Moved the
Sticks podcast. He is a Chargers radio color analyst, former
NFL scout, and he's at the Chargers camp today and
was recently at the Titans camp. Inside the NFL Network's
training camp. Coverage continues today starting at New Eastern. Let
(34:54):
me start there, Daniel Baker Mayfield top five NSC quarterback.
Speaker 11 (35:00):
Well, first of all, Dan, I think this is when
you know the off season, you know, was too long,
when it's like we've narrowed the list. Mayfield is he
a top three former Oklahoma quarterback who's played in the
last fifteen years. But golly, I'm having a run through
all wait, who is all in this? In this discussion?
I agree with every all the comps that were just
made except Stafford. I would They were in the same
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building at the same time, not long ago, and you know,
to me, I know Stafford has heard that time. But
Stafford to me is just he's more talented, so even
at this stage in his career. But yeah, he belongs
up there in that in the NFC. But obviously the
greater point Dan, it's just how lopsided the league is.
Now stack him up with the AFC and that's a
long list on that side.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Okay, but is where does Baker rank in former Oklahoma
quarterbacks in the last decade?
Speaker 11 (35:51):
Just just above Well, we're gonna count we can go
back further to Detroit. Aikman still count as a Oklahoma quarterback. Okay, Okay, Yeah,
he's uh, he's up there. I would have him. Hypel
would be below him. Sam Sam Bradford is you know,
that's that's a debate in his prime before the injuries.
(36:12):
I mean, that's a that's a great that's a great
radio segment right now, let's do that.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Okay, But Jalen Hurts, is he the best Oklahoma quarterback
in the last ten years? Or do you put Kyler
Murray or do you put Baker Mayfield. Let's just do
those three.
Speaker 11 (36:26):
Yeah, no, I would go, Gosh, so it's Baker Tyler
and then Jalen I would go Jalen Baker Kyler.
Speaker 4 (36:38):
Okay, I'm just not sure about Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
It's weird how you can be great in a Super
Bowl loss great in a Super Bowl win.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
I just don't know.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Is he a great quarterback or is he just the
right quarterback for a great team.
Speaker 11 (36:56):
Yeah, I mean it's tough to it's tough to figure
that out. I will let you know, Dan, we are
in danger of Spencer Rattler throwing this back in our
face after a big.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
What about Landry Jones or.
Speaker 11 (37:13):
But Hurts is to your point though, like it. They're
different obviously totally different style players, and it just does
feel like the rewind of the conversations on you know,
Brady with the early championships, which was like how much
is him? How much is it with the team. The
point that you know it makes a challenging to me
(37:35):
is with Jalen. I was sorry about this the other day.
If you were to go through like the great teams
and you're going to have a draft off of their players,
that to me is the fascinating discussion of like which
pick would Jalen Hurts be off of the Eagles, Like,
you know, just in terms of talent, he's probably not
one of the three most talented players on that team,
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and you wouldn't say that about you know, Josh Allen
with the Bills would be the first pick. Homes with
the Chiefs would be the first pick. You know, on
and on you kind of go to that list. So
that's where that that's where that becomes a challenge.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
Yeah, I think that's a great point.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
And and look, these lists drive me crazy, but sometimes
I have to acquiesque and go, Okay, I'll do it.
We're talking to Daniel Jeremiah, former NFL scout. He works
for NFL Network, does a great job on their NFL
Draft coverage. You were at the Titans camp and it
feels like is Cam mord officially the starting quarterback for
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the Titans.
Speaker 11 (38:31):
Yeah, I mean, I don't know if they've officially announced it,
but it's clear and obvious when you go out there
and watch him. He's he's the guy, and he did
some good things when I was there. He made it
some big time throws out a practice in the stadium
the other day, and uh, you know, he's he's got
a lot of ability. He's got a loose arm you
can move around, which is probably still going to need
to do. I know they they efforted to really upgrade
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that offensive line, but it's still you know, it's a
little bit leaky. But I just I was talking to
their their leadership with the president General Mander. I said,
you know, the kind of the cardinal sin in football
in the NFL right now is you can't be bad
and boring. Dan Like, you can be one or the other,
but you can't be both. And this is gonna keep
them from being a boring team. They're gonna be a
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fun watch, you know, with Ridley making some plays down
the field, and you know, Pollard's a good running back
and now you've got an exciting quarterback. There's gonna be turnovers,
there's gonna be some ugly moments. But I contend when
you have a young quarterback, you're smart to on that
side of the ball because not all losses are the same.
Rookie quarterback, if you're losing twenty eight to twenty seven
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or twenty eight to twenty four and he's you know,
showing some flats a heck of a lot better than
losing thirteen to nine.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Yeah, No, that that's part of the problem, where like
Carolina was bad and boring. Yeah, I mean, Bryce is
is fun and showed glimpses last year, and they're probably
going to be better. And now I look at the
Cleveland Browns. They got Miles Garret, but I don't find
them entertaining. I don't know if people are gonna come on, kids,
(40:06):
we're gonna go watch Miles Garrett today. They're kind of in,
you know, no man's land while we talk about their quarterbacks.
They have two first round picks for next year that
I don't know if it matters what they have this
year because of those first round picks next year. So
how do you assess Cleveland? Are they bad and boring
(40:27):
as well?
Speaker 11 (40:28):
Well? I think the defense has a chance to be good,
but that doesn't make them less boring. So I do
think they're in the boring category for sure. I don't
know that I'm willing to put them totally in the
bad category yet. And I think Flacco, even at this age,
you know, he'll make them competitive, He'll make some plays.
But I look at them Dan with those two first
round picks you mentioned, and this year should be in
(40:52):
my opinion about discovery. People don't want to hear that,
but like I want an end of the year. I'd
like to know what I have in those two rookie quarterbacks.
You know, at least let them play a little bit
so I have some idea of what I have before
you you go into a draft. So everybody, Yeah, the
season hasn't even start. We talking about let's you know,
we're gonna Joe Flacco is gonna take us to the
AFC Championship game, and like, you know, I don't really
(41:15):
see that happening, but it would be a shame to
get to this whole year, for them to be kind
of a right around or under five hundred team and
to not see those two rookies and not not know
what you have going into year two.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
Yeah, I think that certainly Shoudor is going to get
a chance to play, probably start a few games as well,
but more likely to use their two first round picks
on a quarterback next year, the Rams or the Browns.
Speaker 11 (41:41):
I mean, I would say, you know, if the quarterbacks
live up to you know, some of the some of
the love they're getting over the summer here for next
year's quarterback class. Depending on who comes out, I would
say that's they're both. I would be shocked if if
both of them didn't end up with a quarterback in
next year's draft.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
You all right, Chargers camp and like we're seeing Jim
Harball make this a Michigan looking offense and they run
the ball re signed Slater there. You know they draft,
they draft a running back, you bring in nausey uh,
but their best offensive player is Justin Herbert. It's always
(42:19):
it's like JJ McCarthy. I didn't know how good he
was at Michigan because he sort of de emphasized JJ McCarthy.
Is Jim kind of deemphasizing Justin Herbert. I mean he
had his best year, not statistically, but I think his
quarterback rating was. So it almost feels like, is this
Michigan two point zero for the Chargers?
Speaker 11 (42:42):
Yeah, I think you know, look, he protected the football
until you got to the playoff game. Unfortunately turned it
over a little bit against the Texans. But I think
the game plan is, you know, maybe we can major
in Clark, Kenton Minor and Superman and then you know,
make that'll keep you fresh and when we need you
to kind of bust that out. We can do that.
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I mean really, truthfully, it's what the Chiefs have done
with Mahomes over the last couple of years. Yeah, hasn't
been really the driving force that offense. So I think
that's that's part of it. But I was there last
year at camp the day that Herbert I believe it
was his foot. He hurt his foot. Then he missed
a couple of weeks of practice, and then they didn't
really use him much in the run game. But I
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mean at the practice I was at and you I
was seeing like quarterback power and they were they were
some design quarterback runs where it was like, oh my gosh,
like if they if they're willing to do that, and
Herbert can you know, add that a little bit of
that Josh Allen element to to his game. And he's
a big athletic, strong guy, and you saw with with
Andrew Luck and obviously he had Kaepernick with the with
(43:45):
the forty nine ers. I'm not saying it's going to
be that level of volume in terms of running, but
that could be an area of Herbert's game that they
haven't really tapped into yet.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
Yeah, I go back to his Rose Bowl performance and yeah,
I mean his legs stood out to me when he
was at Oregon in that game. And I don't know
where coaches stand on having my quarterback run. You kind
of hold your breath when Josh Allen runs because he's
not running necessarily away from you. Where's Lamar and Kyler
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and some of those guys are avoiding contact?
Speaker 4 (44:20):
Can you?
Speaker 2 (44:21):
I mean, I would try to utilize Justin Herbert the
way they do Josh Allen. I just wouldn't have him
take on defenders like Josh does.
Speaker 11 (44:30):
Yeah, I mean that would be preferable, not to initiate contact,
which Josh likes to do. But I mean, for the
first couple of years he was in the league and
doing all the Charger games, I would always go down
the field for warm ups and I'd always get a
chance to talk with the opposing GM and other personnel buddies,
and they would all say the same thing. Dan, it
was just like good night. I had no idea how
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big Justin Herbert is. Like, he is huge, and it's
not not much difference between him and Josh Allen sideways.
They are both big, strong, sturdy guys. So I don't
think it's something you want to do ten times a game.
But you know, having that element, even even on zone reads,
they just having the threat of him as someone who
could pull the ball.
Speaker 4 (45:08):
Yep.
Speaker 11 (45:09):
Now you've got Omari and Hempton who is big and explosive,
and he can help the run game even if he's
not necessarily carrying it.
Speaker 4 (45:16):
Who's the worst team in the NFL right now?
Speaker 11 (45:21):
I don't. I'm curious to see what the what the
Saints end up looking like. You know, the Titans are
going to be better, but I still think defensively, you know,
they don't really have corners, they don't have bad rushes.
I think they're going to give up a lot of points.
Those would be the Those would be the two that
would come to the top of mind.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
And I know that arch Manning hasn't played a full
season at Texas, but if you're telling me that the
Saints are on the clock with the number one pick,
could you see arch Manning deciding I think he's staying.
Speaker 4 (45:51):
Another year after this.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
But if if his hometown Saints are on the clock
with the number one pick and he's had a very
good year at Texas, you think arch Manning would come
out for that.
Speaker 11 (46:04):
I don't. I mean, everything seems to be what you're
saying about him wanting to get another year, and it's
about having the long term success. And I you know,
as much as it'd be cool to play for your
hometown team, I don't. I just don't think that's as
much of a draw anymore. You know, if that were
the case, he'd probably be playing for LSU right now.
Speaker 2 (46:26):
Yeah, I think he's gonna, you know, because money's not
the issue. Although if the Cleveland Browns are there staring
at you, that might make me want to go back
to play another year, A couple more year.
Speaker 4 (46:37):
I might go to grad school at.
Speaker 11 (46:41):
I've always wanted to be a dentist.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
Great to talk to you. Thank you for joining us.
I know you've got a busy schedule and we'll be watching.
Speaker 11 (46:50):
Thanks Dan, I appreciate you, Buddy.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
Daniel Jeremiah, NFL Network analyst and their Inside Training Camp
coverage continues today starting at noon Eastern. What Harball is
doing with the Chargers is fascinating because you have your
best offensive player, but you're you're not asking him to
be your best offensive player. It's kind of you know,
Troy Aikman with the Cowboys when you had Mike and
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you had Emmett. You're just asking Troy when we need you,
we need you to step up. JJ McCarthy at Michigan.
That's why when scouts would talk about how good he was,
I kept thinking, I just didn't see it, and I
still haven't seen it. But I'm fascinated to find out
just how good he is. Because the Vikings made a conscious,
(47:37):
concerned effort that they were drafting a quarterback. Now, maybe
they didn't think that Sam Darnold was going to perform
as well as he did, but they moved on from him,
moved on from Kirk Cousins, and JJ McCarthy gets the call,
but watching justin Herbert and he joins us on Thursday
on the show. But it's we don't need you to
(47:59):
throw as much as you've thrown before. We just need
you to be really good when we ask you to throw.
Jim is about defense and running the football.
Speaker 4 (48:09):
That's what he does.
Speaker 2 (48:11):
Let me see a couple of phone calls. Lisa in California,
Good morning, Lisa, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 4 (48:18):
Good morning guys.
Speaker 1 (48:19):
I just wanted to weigh in here.
Speaker 5 (48:21):
I firmly believe that the reason everybody tells Todd to
suck it is.
Speaker 4 (48:25):
Because they would rather be stuck it than sing it. Wow.
Speaker 6 (48:32):
Wow, Lisa off the top rope. Wow, And nobody even
knew I was up there.
Speaker 2 (48:36):
I get, you know, with that voice, I thought it
was gonna be something really sweet and nice.
Speaker 4 (48:44):
Lisa, how do you feel about that?
Speaker 11 (48:47):
Well, I think it's interesting. You guys think I sound sweet.
Speaker 4 (48:51):
There's no sweet in my game. Whoa hey boom, alright,
thank you, Lisa.
Speaker 6 (48:57):
All right, Lisa and Pandora step into a ring.
Speaker 4 (48:59):
Who's coming out? Money is on Lisa? Oh for sure? Yeah,
because I mean Pandora feels like a lover. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (49:06):
But she's out on the farm, on the ranch all day.
Speaker 4 (49:09):
That is true.
Speaker 2 (49:10):
She's she's out there, probably rustling cattle or something like that.
That's Lisa in California. She's not playing, I said, massus.
Speaker 4 (49:18):
You know she's got strong hands. Racy in Georgia, Hi, Tracy.
Speaker 12 (49:25):
Good morning, gentlemen, including Fritzy. You know, I'm really pulling
for y'all to get this DP show jacked off up
in the air, and I was thinking, what could really
help is perhaps some corporate sponsorship. You know, let's kind
of imagine the first annual DP show Jacked Off, presented
by Jiffy Lube, and you could donate all your proceeds
(49:45):
so local struck victims.
Speaker 4 (49:47):
All right, well, thank you, Tracy.
Speaker 2 (49:49):
Yeah, we're trying to get maybe some you know, g
NC that would help us get jacked and uh you know,
and then we would have the competition of who's jacked off,
you know, the jacked off cont competition.
Speaker 6 (50:00):
I think Creatine is making a big comeback these days,
so yeah, yeah, I think we get on the Creatine
all right.
Speaker 4 (50:08):
I like you parsing your words as yes I am,
Yes I am.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
We're doing the jack as I'm as I'm watching my
career unfold right before me, very I is
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
It's our one on this Tuesday, Dan and the Dan.
That's Dan Patrick Show, our starting lineup, the Minister of Humor,
Fritzie Seat, and Marv PAULI years truly did receive a
letter from I guess a fan who said, forty minutes
of berating Todd on a certain day, and you wonder
why you don't win a Sports Emmy. Well, if that's
(00:26):
the case, then we're never gonna win a Sports Emmy, Todd.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
It's just not in the cards.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
Yeah, I know, I know.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
One of these days though, one of these days, it
just it all comes to an end, and then you're
gonna miss that. You're gonna miss me talking to you.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Be rated. I don't think i'd berate you, No, but.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
I'll be a lost soul wandering the street waiting for
random people to have start up with me about it.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
I don't know what the word is or the words
are to describe our relationship.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
I like poke, we poke, Yeah, we prod. We have fun.
I call it love.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
It's playful.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
I call it a relationship.
Speaker 5 (01:02):
Yes.
Speaker 6 (01:02):
Seton the definition of berate is to scold or criticize
someone angrily.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
I'm not angry at you. No, you do it with
a smile. Yes, yeah, yeah. But if I don't talk
to you, then who does Todd?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
That's a good point.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Now I don't really have no friends. We all know
that you have no friends.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
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eight seven seven three DP Show operator Tyler is sitting by.
He'll take your phone calls. The press conference yesterday with
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Dion Sanders. It was not football related, and I had
given you heads up that this was going to be
a medical update. And there were wide ranging reports speculation
on Deon Sanders' future as a head coach. Being able
to actually walk the sidelines, and we know that he
had a couple of toes amputated, there were a blood
(02:30):
clot that was a couple of years ago, but this
was something different. This was bladder cancer. And those close
to him, at least one person that I spoke to yesterday,
said that that he was He wasn't Prime, He wasn't
coach Prime. He was Dion and obviously very concerned about this.
(02:52):
So it took on a whole different tone behind the
scenes from what I was told yesterday of this is
the this is about living, This is about quality of life.
And I don't think we understood the severity. And he
was being private with this, but he was also sharing
this with some of his close friends because Prime has confidence.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Prime walks in the room and you know he's there.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
This was different, and he was asked yesterday about this
cancer and coming back from it being able to coach.
Speaker 7 (03:27):
I always knew I was going to coach again. I
never didn't realize I was going to coach again. I
was always going to coach. It was never in my
spirit in my heart that God wouldn't allow me to
coach again. He never thought like that.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Yeah, I was told that privately, though he did wonder
if he was going to be able to do that.
Could he walk the sidelines, would he be in a
press box? So you know, the mortality. This one of
the great athletes of our generation. And then all of
a sudden you look at him. He's lost a couple
of toes, had a blood clot, bladder cancer. We're all mortal.
(04:05):
I think it hit me really, really hard years ago.
And I mentioned this last week when I saw Earl
Campbell and we were in Houston for the Super Bowl
and he was in a wheelchair, and it just I
don't know why it hit me so hard. And then
I run into Jim McMahon and Tahoe and Jim talking
about that maybe you know, he was going to have
(04:25):
to get his leg amputated, part of his leg amputated.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
We sort of live in this world.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Sometimes we're in a vacuum and we don't look at
what is life as much as we look at what
is sporting life to us, who they are to us
when we see them on the field. It's when we
see them off the field, and you'll see some of
these players and they're really beat up. And with Dion,
(04:53):
you first time I saw, you know, his feet, he
took his shoes off and showed us and he had
turf toe. And at that, you know, you don't think
turf toe is going to slow down one of the
greatest athletes of all time. But it did. And so
he had to get these toes amputated. And then you
(05:14):
have the blood clot now with bladder cancer. But he's
going to be there on the sidelines, and that was
great news. It was a relief, I think more than anything,
because privately I was told, you know, maybe it's fifty
to fifty if he's going to coach again, and he
wants to be prime. He wants to be coach prime.
He doesn't want to be out there not able to
(05:37):
be that person, that confident person on the sidelines. And
I think maybe there was a little bit of trepidation
with that or concern over that. The other story yesterday,
Manhattan shooting suspect said to have had CTE had a
note that mentioned the NFL goes into the headquarters in
(06:01):
New York City. A twenty seven year old man. He
killed four people wounded. A fifth and this was at
the home office of the NFL. This is on Park Avenue,
three four five Park Avenue. So he takes the wrong elevator.
He wants to go up to the NFL offices. He
takes the wrong elevator, but he apparently was blaming the
(06:25):
NFL for his injury. CTE. You know, it's the brain
disease that is linked to repeated hits to the head.
He was a high school player, played in Canada, and
he had a history of head trauma. But he casually
walks in and I don't know if that's an AR
(06:47):
or an AK, doesn't matter, but he's just walking in
as if he's walking into work. The preliminary investigation, according
to the Mayor of New York City, is the man
took the wrong elevator. He wanted to go to NFL headquarters.
Instead he went to rudent management and that's where he
(07:09):
started shooting people.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
A fifth shooting victim taken.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
To the hospital in critical condition, is out of surgery
and right now in stable condition. But this man had
some issues back in twenty twenty two and twenty twenty four,
with law enforcement sources saying the yet two mental health
crisis holds on his background, where they normally keep you
(07:34):
I think for up to seventy two hours because they're
a danger to themselves. But scary moment obviously, and four
lives were lost yesterday. We haven't talked about CTE in
a while after the lawsuit. It's still there. We've seen
Tua and what's happened to him with a couple of
concussions there. It's quieted down, but it's almost because the NFL,
(07:59):
in that billion dollar lawsuit said, after this, you're kind
of signing up and you know.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
Exactly what you're getting.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
It's sort of like when you see the warning on
the side of cigarettes, like it's there. Surgeon General says,
you probably shouldn't do this, but we've gotten better helmets.
I think that, you know, the medical approach is not
to put your head in the sand or act like
it doesn't exist. The guardian caps, which I think if
(08:30):
we started out with that, nobody would have a problem
with that. It just we look at them and it
doesn't feel like that's football for some reason. But I
think if somebody comes along and is able to modify those,
to streamline it a little bit and make them look
more like a helmet.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
I don't think we'll have a problem with it.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
I mean, imagine the football players who put a face
mask on, It's like, what are you doing that for?
I don't know, Maybe saved my face, I don't know,
you look pretty weird. Or Jacques Plant when he put
on a goldie mask and they probably went and do
you see what Jacque's gone on?
Speaker 4 (09:10):
He's got a mask.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
After a while, it just becomes the norm and and
hopefully if that cuts down on CTE, because it is
it's just a terrible, terrible I mean, it's debilitating for
these poor people. Uh you know, you start to look
at what it does to you. You know some of
the symptoms, uh you know, you you get mood swings, memory, laws,
(09:36):
you I mean it leads to other things as well.
Seeing you know, these great football players and they have
to be fed, they have to be taken care of,
you know, the wife who is all of a sudden
taking care of you know, this person, or you have
(09:57):
to put him in a you know, facil assisted living.
It's real, it's still there. Hopefully they continue with the progress,
but you know it's still the risk will still be there.
But this man who's twenty seven years of age, had
suffered apparently some brain damage CTE and killed four people
(10:19):
yesterday in New York City. All right, eight seven seven
three DP Show email address dpat Danpatrick dot com, twitter
handle at DP show. We'll check in with one of
our good buddies, Daniel Jeremiah, former NFL scout, does a
great job for NFL Network. He's been to a couple
of camps, and we'll talk to him. There was a
(10:39):
signing yesterday Cortland Sutton got signed by the Broncos. And
I found this interesting because I love Terry McLaurin. I
think he's a wonderful player. I think he's, you know,
kind of battled through all the chaos and nonsense with
Washington five straight seasons of a thousand receiving yards, and
he's been in league for seven years, and he produces.
(11:03):
He wants to get paid. He's thirty years of age,
same age I believe as Courtland Sutton. Sutton got paid
yesterday by the Broncos. And Courtland Sutton is not as
good as Terry McLaurin, and I hope that now he's
got a hold in. He's showed up at camp doesn't
want to get fined. But that was one of those
where Denver signed up Courtland Sutton had no problem with that,
(11:27):
but the commanders not with Terry McLaurin and mclauren was
great before they got Jayden Daniels. He was almost the
constant there, and I like when those players get taken
care of. Hopefully Trey Hendrickson gets paid. He did everything
he was supposed to do, and hopefully the Bengals will
sign him. Not always the case. There's sometimes when players
(11:51):
ask for more money or they have two years left
on their deal and they get paid, and usually that
comes back to Haunt management there Seeton, what's.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Poll question today? Well, we got two of.
Speaker 6 (12:03):
Them here, and I think we're gonna get them both
after the break. Oh okay, all right, after the break? Wow,
this is after the break and two Todd, have you
seen Happy Gilmour too?
Speaker 3 (12:21):
I have not just said I was thinking about maybe
saving it for the weekend action because I don't really
have much of a life.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
On the weekend. So the next time I'm in a
really big movie, then maybe a one.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
I may see it one of these weeknights, but I
may save it for like a Saturday kind of thing
because I've got a little dinner and then it could
be a Saturday night showcase at my house.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
Okay, you and Paulie holding out? Yeah, paul I do
have an update.
Speaker 8 (12:42):
My daughter and I watched the first movie That's like
and she told me, how did you not show me
this before? Now we're ready for part Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
But I wasn't in the original.
Speaker 8 (12:52):
Which is a mistake on their end.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
It is, it is, but they Sandler learned that.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Yes, Sandler learned from his mistake, and then he put
me in a Happy Gilmore two. The update I got
is they're looking at somewhere between ninety and one hundred
million streams Unhappy Gilmore too the first week.
Speaker 6 (13:10):
That sounds like a good number, y.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
Yes it is. That's a very good number.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Yes, it doesn't mean anything to my bottom line because
I do this. It's more of a charity that I
do it. I do it for Sandler and his children
so they have a better life. Helping out a friend. Yes,
that's what I don't. I don't charge an exorbitant rate.
It's just basically I'm here to give.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Yes, Tom, you need to sit down with the saman
for a future g where you get a little back
end off of you get a certain streaming number.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
It's too late for that. It's too late for that.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Although Sandler did buy Rock and David Spade and Rob
Schneider their favorite car a couple of years ago, well
it's a few years ago because of all their contributions
to his movies. And I said to Sandler, you know,
if I get to twenty movies, I kind of like
that car. Well I blew past twenty movies, no car.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
You know what.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Paully suggests that maybe Sandman would lease a car for me.
Speaker 8 (14:11):
Nice thirty nine month, yeah, twelve thousand miles.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Yeah, it'd be nice, you know, nice payment plan. I'd
be fine with that. Just you know, just a gesture there.
That's all, just a nice little danny. I didn't buy
you a car, but maybe he's got to buy cars
for his daughters, his two daughters, of course, but buy
a horse for his wife, you know.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
AnyWho.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Okay, I shouldn't be turning it into a negative. I'm
in one of the biggest movies this year of all time.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Yes, time, you already have the pontoon boat, maybe like
a souped up canoe. Is there something you can send
a Maine for you as as a backup deal to
your pontoon boat if he doesn't want to go car.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Why why are you joking that? Jo feels like you're
joking about this.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
I think that would be a lovely gesture, something for
the water.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
See, this is why i'd be rate you, because you
make fun of me. Your words hurt.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
I'm just saying it doesn't have to be a car.
He can you know, he can get your golf card.
You can get you some kind of little boats.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
Golf cart would be fine. Yes.
Speaker 6 (15:11):
I think this is what people mean when they say
you're gas lighting someone. You're gas lighting Todd right now.
Oh I'm oh, but what was he doing to me?
You're because you're you're saying to Todd things like you know, Todd,
your words hurt, they do hurt. That's that's when you're
you're gas lighting toddeh gaslight Yeah, because your words hurt Dan.
Oh okay, and now you're you're like throwing it back
(15:33):
in Todd's face. I think this is what maybe one
of the things people mean when they say forty minutes
of B rating. I think this would go under the
B rate umbrella.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
You're turning the script a little bit there.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
But what but what role did Todd play in this though?
Now you're blaming the victim.
Speaker 8 (15:49):
Your victim, blaming yeah, being here, being alive.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
I'm the victim here, showing up every day. I'm the victim.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
You took it as me being like poking. You were
being sarcastic. I was being legitimately, here's some other options.
That's sand on my that's a nice president. It turns
it into a thing.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Just felt like negativity, felt like you were gaslighting me. Yes, okay,
as being the weak victim.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
I apologize if vehicle suggestions.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
Thank you. I appreciate that. That's the way it should be.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Okay, when we come back, they long awaited Pulsey suggestions,
whole question suggestions there. All right, Well, take a break.
We're just getting started. Dan and The Dan Ants Dan
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Speaker 2 (17:46):
We only have twelve employees total in here, and there's
a lot of space in the man cave. But you know,
usually during the commercial break, so I like to walk
around and like, just evesdrop, I'm listening. And then we
have Rob who were works in the back. He works
on the newsletter among other things, and he said a
few weeks ago that he could beat Zion Williamson in
(18:08):
a one hundred meter dash, and of course everybody was
like what, and he goes yes, And then I just
walked back through.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
It's called the bullpen. So Ray is there and Dylan's there.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Weeks are cameraman during the commercial break, Marvin was there
and all of a sudden, I hear I would cream
Zion Williamson in a five K. So now it's gone
from a one hundred meter dash to a five K.
And Marvin, you were there as the ear witness.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
I can't repeat what I said, but yes, I was
there to witness it.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
I don't know how this started that all of a sudden,
a Knicks fan and he's going to call out Zion
Williamson and he could beat him in a hundred meter dash. Now, okay,
I the older I get the better I was. And
I'm always wanting to challenge you know people, certainly to
a shooting contest. I'm not gonna challenge somebody to one
(19:04):
hundred meter dash or five k certainly who was a
professional athlete like that. But and I wanted to see
who was the fastest person in the building. And I
think I was giving what five hundred dollars? Is that
what it was to whoever is the fastest Because this
started with one of our backroom guys, one of the brgs,
that he was claiming, if you can beat Zion Williamson,
(19:26):
who I think ran a four to six forty or
you know, something like that, then you probably are the
fastest guy in the building. And I was willing to
put five hundred dollars and then he says, no, I
don't want to do that, but I would race Zion Williamson.
There's always entertainment in every nook and cranny in this place.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
Yes, Paul, A.
Speaker 8 (19:48):
Couple of details for background. We have not reached out
to Zion yet. We weren't sure how to package this offer. Fritzy,
that's on you. Zion listed at six six to eighty
four coming out of college. We do not have any
measurements of his speed. I can't find he's ever run
and been timed, no combine or anything. Okay, but there's
a lot of speculation. I saw some video of him
(20:10):
comparing him to other guys running down the court, and
he's amongst the quicker guys.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
In the league.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
And somebody's on record is saying, who wasn't Marvin who
talked about Zion's quickness Baron Fox so de Aaron Fox
said that Zion would be the quickest, uh, one of
the quickest, one of the quickest at the fore position.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
Correct, Okay, that's believable.
Speaker 6 (20:35):
Yeah, See, the average NBA player runs about two and
a half to three miles a game. Okay, Uh, A
five k is a little over three miles. I feel
like Zion is probably in that type of shape for sure.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
I'm going to guess he could run a five K.
I'm gonna guess he can run a five K.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
And I'm gonna guess that he might be able to
run at a decent pace. I don't I don't know
about the one hundred meter dash, but I would love
to have everybody who would like to be involved in that.
We tried to set this up months ago that we
would have one hundred meter dash. I don't know if
any of the dan nets. I think Marvin said that
he would run. It's seating you run as well. Yeah,
(21:19):
and then there's a couple of guys in the back
who claim that they could run pretty fast, but five
hundred dollars. See who's the fastest person in the building
one race.
Speaker 11 (21:28):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
I'm not going to have heats. Hold on, you're not well.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
I would have I would have probably three groups of
four and then we would just do times the fastest
time or I would do the winner of each of those,
you know, heats. Then they would face off for the
grand prize of five hundred dollars. Does that sound okay?
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Maybe even top two of each heat? No, no, no,
only one.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
I'm all about winning, about participating, yes, Seaton or yes, Paul.
Speaker 8 (22:02):
If you were doing Olympic style, you could have three
heats of four, the winner of each heat and the
best time would be the fourth person of the finals.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
Okay, Olympic style.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Once again, this doesn't happen unless Rob one of the
brgs decides to run. Because I don't want this to
be oh, such and such one Rob didn't and then
Rob goes, yeah, but I didn't run in it.
Speaker 8 (22:25):
Yes, Pauling and the I team has never seen Rob
do anything but sit in that chair and edit over
the past two years. He does a fine job, but
I've never seen him really move or stand since.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
I bet, I have not seen anything athletic. He doesn't
do pickleball, he doesn't do basketball. I don't think he
did whiffle ball.
Speaker 8 (22:41):
Zion six six two eighty five Rob five eight one
forty is the estimate.
Speaker 6 (22:46):
Okay, yes, seton Yeah, I haven't seen any estimates either
on If an NBA player runs two and a half
miles per game a video editor per shift, that mileage
I think is significantly less.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
You're mileage may You're mileage may very Uh yes, tod.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
It's also easy to break or show courage about a
contest that will never actually happen when you're throwing out
something that's a that's the likelihood.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
Taking a shot.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
That should be sair.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
Somebody's gonna say it.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
When I sit next to Billie Joel the piano, I
will totally outplay him, which I know will never have.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Speaking of health, looking good, uh, Luca is on the
cover of Men's Health, and all of a sudden, people
are going, WHOA, wait a minute here, somebody got in shape. Yes,
and I wonder if does Men's Health reach out to
Luca or vice versa. But Luca and his people working
in conjunction with Men's Health. He's on the cover, and
(23:45):
immediately I was seeing the reaction and social media was saying, yeah,
but they can photoshop that. Well then I saw him
at Yankee Stadium with Aaron Judge. Well, they didn't photoshop that.
He looks he looks thin, he looks felt, talks about
his whole workout routine, and he was one of those
(24:05):
guys that felt like in the and Larry Bird did this.
Larry Bird famously played softball and drank beer in the
off season, and then they would use training camp to
get in shape. Well, I think Luca just played basketball.
I don't know if he's ever lifted weights. I saw
that there was a report that the place that he
(24:26):
works out didn't have barbells and dumbbells, didn't have weights
basically until recently, and then Luca started working out. And
you know, most of this is diet, just eating right.
You know what you drink, how much you drink, how
much water, you know, all of those things.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
But he looks good.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Prior to this, even seeing this and seeing this article,
I said he'll be the MVP this year. I truly
believe that he'll be the MVP because he's gotten to
that window where we did this to Joker, we did
it to Giannis, we did it to Joel n B.
When are you going to be the best player? When
are you going to be the MVP? Now, we also asked,
(25:11):
when are you going to win a title? Well, he
went further than Joe Ellenbid did, and Bid got his MVP.
Jannis got his MVP and won a title, a couple MVPs.
Joker a few MVPs got his title. Now it's Luca's
turn because he just saw Shay Gilgess Alexander get the
MVP and get his title, and they're around the same age. Now,
(25:34):
all of a sudden, we're saying Shay Gilgess is better
than Luca. We're saying Anthony Edwards is better than Luca.
And I'd say, hold on here, hold on, he's better
than Anthony Edwards. If you said you can have Anthony
Edwards or Luca right now, I would take Luca wouldn't
even think about it. Anthony Edwards is a highlight. He's
got a There's another step for him to take, and that's,
(25:58):
you know, the maturity aspect of this, to want to
be a leader, to act like a leader. He's a
wonderfully talented player, but I don't think he's better than Luca.
Shay Gilgis say, Shay has proven to be a leader.
He's a guy who goes out and does it every
single night. And he got his team, you know, to
the NBA Championship, So he's going to be ranked higher
(26:21):
than Luca. Even though I hate these lists where we're
ranking players. I would take Shay Gilgis because I can
count on him. But I think this is that year.
This is the biggest year of Luca's life because we're
kind of on the exit strategy end of Lebron's career.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
And who knows what he's saying.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
He was he was on a yacht with the Joker's
agent and his agent and talking about basically twenty twenty six. Okay,
I don't know what the cryptic message means. Feels like, hey,
you know, maybe I'll go to Dallas. You know, I
got my Frank Hyrie's there, and Anthony Davis is there,
and you know I can help Cooper flag and I
(27:01):
have no idea, but it feels like Lebron knows this.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
Isn't your team.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
And if there was any question, the Lakers have answered
that because this is about Luca, and I think Luca
is saying to the Lakers, I understand my role here.
I understand what it means to be a leader, to
be I have this gift. I need to take care
of this. You don't want to look back and say
(27:28):
I wish I would have put in the time, put
in the effort. And Luca looks great, and I think
that that says a lot about the off season.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
Now.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
I always go back to this. And as soon as
I saw the cover on Men's Health with Luca, the
first thing I thought of was when Michael Finley took
a beer out of Luca's hand after a game. Luca
is in the hallway outside the locker room and Michael Finley.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
Takes the beer out of his hand. There's cameras there.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Michael knew that Luca's just drinking beer, and that's what
I thought of. Well, now somebody's pushing you and I
thought working with Lebron, seeing Lebron the time that he
puts in that by proxy, Luca would want to be
in better shape to know he has to be in
better shape and look out NBA. Kyrie tells the story
(28:26):
of Luca and he says, there was a practice where
Luca scored twenty four points in three minutes. He was
cooking somebody that badly. It's hard to score twenty four points,
let alone twenty four points in three minutes. But Kyrie said,
it's one of those moments where you go, damn, I
(28:48):
got the MVP odds according to DraftKings, Joker and then
SGA and then it's Luca, so Joker plus two hundred,
SGA plus two fifty, Luca plus six point fifty. Then
it's Giannis, Anthony Edwards, Victor wemban Yama and Kate Cunningham
Victor Wembanyama in the next two years, and I think
(29:12):
after that it's his MV PIG. I just feel like
what he's going to do is going to be game changing.
A couple of phone calls in here get started. Let's
see Chris in Texas. Hi, Chris, what's on your mind?
Speaker 4 (29:26):
Wait?
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Did we come up with our pole questions. Yeah, oh,
I might even wait until after the next rain. Now,
can can it wait until after the next Let me
get to Chris in Texas, and then Seaton will come
up with the poll questions suggestions?
Speaker 4 (29:40):
All right, Hi Chris, Hey Dan, what's up? Hey?
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Hey?
Speaker 5 (29:47):
I just want to say this is a bucket list
on it for me because you have entertained me.
Speaker 12 (29:51):
Ever since I was a child. I'm not trying, I'm
not trying to get.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
Filled, but you're the man and today's bird. Oh and
I just want to say that I love everybody, but
suck it back row.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
Well, I've got to say that.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
And I'm and I wanted the way you six ten,
three fifty nine.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
All right, thank you CHROs. And also boom, that's all
I gotta say. All right, well, thank you Chris.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
How about we give Chris well, maybe the macro doesn't
want to give a he loves everybody but suck at
back row.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
Ready heavy birthday, birthday, Thank you Chris.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
Yes to.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
I'm wondering when someone does the suck at back row
a front row that they would need to elaborate a
little furthers to watch.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
Do you want that way?
Speaker 3 (30:41):
I think I do.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
Okay, maybe that would help us. It might help me.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
It's like you stop singing, you're not funny whatever, all
the million things I've heard that are negative. But maybe
you need to give a sense or two about why.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
Todd, we've been saying that to you for years, but
just throwing.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Out second front row, a second back round is hurtful.
I think you need to kind of step up with
a because and then just a stroke.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
Okay, all right, you ask for it, yes see and
se yeah, you know what.
Speaker 6 (31:02):
I kind of appreciate that, actually, because I feel like
I get a lot of suckets directed at me that
are really because I'm with Todd because it's a back row.
But it's really they're just saying Todd that they just
don't want to say.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
That out lost.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Fair fair, very fair point.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
I see Chris in Mississippi, Hi, Chris, how are you?
Speaker 4 (31:21):
Hey? Dan?
Speaker 10 (31:21):
What's up?
Speaker 4 (31:22):
Man? Hey?
Speaker 11 (31:23):
Uh? Longtime listener, first time caller six three. Appreciabod going
back to uh to what you were talking about with
with Dion and about how just it kind of struck
a chord with me about nobody knows what these athletes
are dealing with and everything like that just uh, I'm
pulling in the parking lot right now at my church,
and that, uh, that kind of relates to everybody. You
(31:46):
just never know what anybody's dealing with, you know.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Yeah, And it once again when I was in Tahoe
and I saw Jim McMahon, former Bears quarterback, and he
was limping, had a smile on his face. But we
start talking about healthcare and he doesn't have health care
and he said that he showed me the X rays
of his leg and he said, yeah, they thought about
(32:11):
amputating my leg. But he has a smile on his face.
But it just it stayed with men. It hit me
a lot harder because I've known Jim a long long time,
and you know, they're just like us.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
We don't.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
I mean, they'll say that, hey, I'm just like you,
and you're like, no, you're not. You're famous or you
got money or no, he's just like us, got health issues,
doesn't have health care from the NFL. So all of
the things that he did, and he was the punky
QB and he won a Super Bowl, I mean all
of those things, it doesn't matter now. It's like seeing
(32:49):
Ryan Sandberg used to go to Cubs games. Didn't know Rhino,
but I would go there to hang out with Mark Grace,
who played first base, and you just watch somebody. He
was the other twenty three in town and Rhino was
a great player. He's gone at the age of sixty five. Yeah,
(33:09):
there is mortality too, all of this, even though we
look at them differently. And you know, that's where it
hit me with Earl Campbell, and it hit me with
Jim McMahon, that they are when it's all said and done,
just like us.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
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Speaker 2 (33:36):
I was walking by and I saw on one of
the monitors the Mothership was asking the question, is Baker
Mayfield a top five NFC quarterback?
Speaker 4 (33:45):
Now?
Speaker 2 (33:46):
I'm not big on list rankings like that, but then
I said to PAULI, I said, do you agree Baker
Mayfield top five quarterback NFC? I said, would you take
him over Jordan Love? You said, yeah, would you take
him over Dak Prescott?
Speaker 4 (34:01):
No doubt? Okay.
Speaker 8 (34:03):
Baker's last two seasons forty one touchdowns and sixteen picks
last year.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Forty You know, would you take him over Jared golf
oh Man, No, would you take him over Jalen Hurts No?
Would you take him over Matthew Stafford Yes?
Speaker 8 (34:21):
Because of injury. Okay, Baker's reliable right now. It's like
he's at the point of career where we know what
he is. I think he's twenty nine. All cleaned up.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Daniel Jeremiah, NFL network analyst and co host Moved the
Sticks podcast. He is a Chargers radio color analyst, former
NFL scout, and he's at the Chargers camp today and
was recently at the Titans camp. Inside the NFL Network's
training camp. Coverage continues today starting at New Eastern. Let
(34:54):
me start there, Daniel Baker Mayfield top five NSC quarterback.
Speaker 11 (35:00):
Well, first of all, Dan, I think this is when
you know the off season, you know, was too long,
when it's like we've narrowed the list. Mayfield is he
a top three former Oklahoma quarterback who's played in the
last fifteen years. But golly, I'm having a run through
all wait, who is all in this? In this discussion?
I agree with every all the comps that were just
made except Stafford. I would They were in the same
(35:22):
building at the same time, not long ago, and you know,
to me, I know Stafford has heard that time. But
Stafford to me is just he's more talented, so even
at this stage in his career. But yeah, he belongs
up there in that in the NFC. But obviously the
greater point Dan, it's just how lopsided the league is.
Now stack him up with the AFC and that's a
long list on that side.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Okay, but is where does Baker rank in former Oklahoma
quarterbacks in the last decade?
Speaker 11 (35:51):
Just just above Well, we're gonna count we can go
back further to Detroit. Aikman still count as a Oklahoma quarterback. Okay, Okay, Yeah,
he's uh, he's up there. I would have him. Hypel
would be below him. Sam Sam Bradford is you know,
that's that's a debate in his prime before the injuries.
(36:12):
I mean, that's a that's a great that's a great
radio segment right now, let's do that.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Okay, But Jalen Hurts, is he the best Oklahoma quarterback
in the last ten years? Or do you put Kyler
Murray or do you put Baker Mayfield. Let's just do
those three.
Speaker 11 (36:26):
Yeah, no, I would go, Gosh, so it's Baker Tyler
and then Jalen I would go Jalen Baker Kyler.
Speaker 4 (36:38):
Okay, I'm just not sure about Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
It's weird how you can be great in a Super
Bowl loss great in a Super Bowl win.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
I just don't know.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Is he a great quarterback or is he just the
right quarterback for a great team.
Speaker 11 (36:56):
Yeah, I mean it's tough to it's tough to figure
that out. I will let you know, Dan, we are
in danger of Spencer Rattler throwing this back in our
face after a big.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
What about Landry Jones or.
Speaker 11 (37:13):
But Hurts is to your point though, like it. They're
different obviously totally different style players, and it just does
feel like the rewind of the conversations on you know,
Brady with the early championships, which was like how much
is him? How much is it with the team. The
point that you know it makes a challenging to me
(37:35):
is with Jalen. I was sorry about this the other day.
If you were to go through like the great teams
and you're going to have a draft off of their players,
that to me is the fascinating discussion of like which
pick would Jalen Hurts be off of the Eagles, Like,
you know, just in terms of talent, he's probably not
one of the three most talented players on that team,
(37:55):
and you wouldn't say that about you know, Josh Allen
with the Bills would be the first pick. Homes with
the Chiefs would be the first pick. You know, on
and on you kind of go to that list. So
that's where that that's where that becomes a challenge.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
Yeah, I think that's a great point.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
And and look, these lists drive me crazy, but sometimes
I have to acquiesque and go, Okay, I'll do it.
We're talking to Daniel Jeremiah, former NFL scout. He works
for NFL Network, does a great job on their NFL
Draft coverage. You were at the Titans camp and it
feels like is Cam mord officially the starting quarterback for
(38:30):
the Titans.
Speaker 11 (38:31):
Yeah, I mean, I don't know if they've officially announced it,
but it's clear and obvious when you go out there
and watch him. He's he's the guy, and he did
some good things when I was there. He made it
some big time throws out a practice in the stadium
the other day, and uh, you know, he's he's got
a lot of ability. He's got a loose arm you
can move around, which is probably still going to need
to do. I know they they efforted to really upgrade
(38:53):
that offensive line, but it's still you know, it's a
little bit leaky. But I just I was talking to
their their leadership with the president General Mander. I said,
you know, the kind of the cardinal sin in football
in the NFL right now is you can't be bad
and boring. Dan Like, you can be one or the other,
but you can't be both. And this is gonna keep
them from being a boring team. They're gonna be a
(39:14):
fun watch, you know, with Ridley making some plays down
the field, and you know, Pollard's a good running back
and now you've got an exciting quarterback. There's gonna be turnovers,
there's gonna be some ugly moments. But I contend when
you have a young quarterback, you're smart to on that
side of the ball because not all losses are the same.
Rookie quarterback, if you're losing twenty eight to twenty seven
(39:36):
or twenty eight to twenty four and he's you know,
showing some flats a heck of a lot better than
losing thirteen to nine.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Yeah, No, that that's part of the problem, where like
Carolina was bad and boring. Yeah, I mean, Bryce is
is fun and showed glimpses last year, and they're probably
going to be better. And now I look at the
Cleveland Browns. They got Miles Garret, but I don't find
them entertaining. I don't know if people are gonna come on, kids,
(40:06):
we're gonna go watch Miles Garrett today. They're kind of in,
you know, no man's land while we talk about their quarterbacks.
They have two first round picks for next year that
I don't know if it matters what they have this
year because of those first round picks next year. So
how do you assess Cleveland? Are they bad and boring
(40:27):
as well?
Speaker 11 (40:28):
Well? I think the defense has a chance to be good,
but that doesn't make them less boring. So I do
think they're in the boring category for sure. I don't
know that I'm willing to put them totally in the
bad category yet. And I think Flacco, even at this age,
you know, he'll make them competitive, He'll make some plays.
But I look at them Dan with those two first
round picks you mentioned, and this year should be in
(40:52):
my opinion about discovery. People don't want to hear that,
but like I want an end of the year. I'd
like to know what I have in those two rookie quarterbacks.
You know, at least let them play a little bit
so I have some idea of what I have before
you you go into a draft. So everybody, Yeah, the
season hasn't even start. We talking about let's you know,
we're gonna Joe Flacco is gonna take us to the
AFC Championship game, and like, you know, I don't really
(41:15):
see that happening, but it would be a shame to
get to this whole year, for them to be kind
of a right around or under five hundred team and
to not see those two rookies and not not know
what you have going into year two.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
Yeah, I think that certainly Shoudor is going to get
a chance to play, probably start a few games as well,
but more likely to use their two first round picks
on a quarterback next year, the Rams or the Browns.
Speaker 11 (41:41):
I mean, I would say, you know, if the quarterbacks
live up to you know, some of the some of
the love they're getting over the summer here for next
year's quarterback class. Depending on who comes out, I would
say that's they're both. I would be shocked if if
both of them didn't end up with a quarterback in
next year's draft.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
You all right, Chargers camp and like we're seeing Jim
Harball make this a Michigan looking offense and they run
the ball re signed Slater there. You know they draft,
they draft a running back, you bring in nausey uh,
but their best offensive player is Justin Herbert. It's always
(42:19):
it's like JJ McCarthy. I didn't know how good he
was at Michigan because he sort of de emphasized JJ McCarthy.
Is Jim kind of deemphasizing Justin Herbert. I mean he
had his best year, not statistically, but I think his
quarterback rating was. So it almost feels like, is this
Michigan two point zero for the Chargers?
Speaker 11 (42:42):
Yeah, I think you know, look, he protected the football
until you got to the playoff game. Unfortunately turned it
over a little bit against the Texans. But I think
the game plan is, you know, maybe we can major
in Clark, Kenton Minor and Superman and then you know,
make that'll keep you fresh and when we need you
to kind of bust that out. We can do that.
(43:02):
I mean really, truthfully, it's what the Chiefs have done
with Mahomes over the last couple of years. Yeah, hasn't
been really the driving force that offense. So I think
that's that's part of it. But I was there last
year at camp the day that Herbert I believe it
was his foot. He hurt his foot. Then he missed
a couple of weeks of practice, and then they didn't
really use him much in the run game. But I
(43:24):
mean at the practice I was at and you I
was seeing like quarterback power and they were they were
some design quarterback runs where it was like, oh my gosh,
like if they if they're willing to do that, and
Herbert can you know, add that a little bit of
that Josh Allen element to to his game. And he's
a big athletic, strong guy, and you saw with with
Andrew Luck and obviously he had Kaepernick with the with
(43:45):
the forty nine ers. I'm not saying it's going to
be that level of volume in terms of running, but
that could be an area of Herbert's game that they
haven't really tapped into yet.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
Yeah, I go back to his Rose Bowl performance and yeah,
I mean his legs stood out to me when he
was at Oregon in that game. And I don't know
where coaches stand on having my quarterback run. You kind
of hold your breath when Josh Allen runs because he's
not running necessarily away from you. Where's Lamar and Kyler
(44:16):
and some of those guys are avoiding contact?
Speaker 4 (44:20):
Can you?
Speaker 2 (44:21):
I mean, I would try to utilize Justin Herbert the
way they do Josh Allen. I just wouldn't have him
take on defenders like Josh does.
Speaker 11 (44:30):
Yeah, I mean that would be preferable, not to initiate contact,
which Josh likes to do. But I mean, for the
first couple of years he was in the league and
doing all the Charger games, I would always go down
the field for warm ups and I'd always get a
chance to talk with the opposing GM and other personnel buddies,
and they would all say the same thing. Dan, it
was just like good night. I had no idea how
(44:50):
big Justin Herbert is. Like, he is huge, and it's
not not much difference between him and Josh Allen sideways.
They are both big, strong, sturdy guys. So I don't
think it's something you want to do ten times a game.
But you know, having that element, even even on zone reads,
they just having the threat of him as someone who
could pull the ball.
Speaker 4 (45:08):
Yep.
Speaker 11 (45:09):
Now you've got Omari and Hempton who is big and explosive,
and he can help the run game even if he's
not necessarily carrying it.
Speaker 4 (45:16):
Who's the worst team in the NFL right now?
Speaker 11 (45:21):
I don't. I'm curious to see what the what the
Saints end up looking like. You know, the Titans are
going to be better, but I still think defensively, you know,
they don't really have corners, they don't have bad rushes.
I think they're going to give up a lot of points.
Those would be the Those would be the two that
would come to the top of mind.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
And I know that arch Manning hasn't played a full
season at Texas, but if you're telling me that the
Saints are on the clock with the number one pick,
could you see arch Manning deciding I think he's staying.
Speaker 4 (45:51):
Another year after this.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
But if if his hometown Saints are on the clock
with the number one pick and he's had a very
good year at Texas, you think arch Manning would come
out for that.
Speaker 11 (46:04):
I don't. I mean, everything seems to be what you're
saying about him wanting to get another year, and it's
about having the long term success. And I you know,
as much as it'd be cool to play for your
hometown team, I don't. I just don't think that's as
much of a draw anymore. You know, if that were
the case, he'd probably be playing for LSU right now.
Speaker 2 (46:26):
Yeah, I think he's gonna, you know, because money's not
the issue. Although if the Cleveland Browns are there staring
at you, that might make me want to go back
to play another year, A couple more year.
Speaker 4 (46:37):
I might go to grad school at.
Speaker 11 (46:41):
I've always wanted to be a dentist.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
Great to talk to you. Thank you for joining us.
I know you've got a busy schedule and we'll be watching.
Speaker 11 (46:50):
Thanks Dan, I appreciate you, Buddy.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
Daniel Jeremiah, NFL Network analyst and their Inside Training Camp
coverage continues today starting at noon Eastern. What Harball is
doing with the Chargers is fascinating because you have your
best offensive player, but you're you're not asking him to
be your best offensive player. It's kind of you know,
Troy Aikman with the Cowboys when you had Mike and
(47:14):
you had Emmett. You're just asking Troy when we need you,
we need you to step up. JJ McCarthy at Michigan.
That's why when scouts would talk about how good he was,
I kept thinking, I just didn't see it, and I
still haven't seen it. But I'm fascinated to find out
just how good he is. Because the Vikings made a conscious,
(47:37):
concerned effort that they were drafting a quarterback. Now, maybe
they didn't think that Sam Darnold was going to perform
as well as he did, but they moved on from him,
moved on from Kirk Cousins, and JJ McCarthy gets the call,
but watching justin Herbert and he joins us on Thursday
on the show. But it's we don't need you to
(47:59):
throw as much as you've thrown before. We just need
you to be really good when we ask you to throw.
Jim is about defense and running the football.
Speaker 4 (48:09):
That's what he does.
Speaker 2 (48:11):
Let me see a couple of phone calls. Lisa in California,
Good morning, Lisa, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 4 (48:18):
Good morning guys.
Speaker 1 (48:19):
I just wanted to weigh in here.
Speaker 5 (48:21):
I firmly believe that the reason everybody tells Todd to
suck it is.
Speaker 4 (48:25):
Because they would rather be stuck it than sing it. Wow.
Speaker 6 (48:32):
Wow, Lisa off the top rope. Wow, And nobody even
knew I was up there.
Speaker 2 (48:36):
I get, you know, with that voice, I thought it
was gonna be something really sweet and nice.
Speaker 4 (48:44):
Lisa, how do you feel about that?
Speaker 11 (48:47):
Well, I think it's interesting. You guys think I sound sweet.
Speaker 4 (48:51):
There's no sweet in my game. Whoa hey boom, alright,
thank you, Lisa.
Speaker 6 (48:57):
All right, Lisa and Pandora step into a ring.
Speaker 4 (48:59):
Who's coming out? Money is on Lisa? Oh for sure? Yeah,
because I mean Pandora feels like a lover. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (49:06):
But she's out on the farm, on the ranch all day.
Speaker 4 (49:09):
That is true.
Speaker 2 (49:10):
She's she's out there, probably rustling cattle or something like that.
That's Lisa in California. She's not playing, I said, massus.
Speaker 4 (49:18):
You know she's got strong hands. Racy in Georgia, Hi, Tracy.
Speaker 12 (49:25):
Good morning, gentlemen, including Fritzy. You know, I'm really pulling
for y'all to get this DP show jacked off up
in the air, and I was thinking, what could really
help is perhaps some corporate sponsorship. You know, let's kind
of imagine the first annual DP show Jacked Off, presented
by Jiffy Lube, and you could donate all your proceeds
(49:45):
so local struck victims.
Speaker 4 (49:47):
All right, well, thank you, Tracy.
Speaker 2 (49:49):
Yeah, we're trying to get maybe some you know, g
NC that would help us get jacked and uh you know,
and then we would have the competition of who's jacked off,
you know, the jacked off cont competition.
Speaker 6 (50:00):
I think Creatine is making a big comeback these days,
so yeah, yeah, I think we get on the Creatine
all right.
Speaker 4 (50:08):
I like you parsing your words as yes I am,
Yes I am.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
We're doing the jack as I'm as I'm watching my
career unfold right before me, very I is
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