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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
It's our one on this Wednesday, Dan and the Dan
Nets Dan Patrick Show, Our starting lineup, our Fab five
flab five Wait a second, not for long. Yeah, everybody's
gonna get in shape for the jacked Off contest that
we're going to have. Is there a deadline for this?
What's the timeframe? Is this starting now?
Speaker 3 (00:27):
And then?
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Is this maybe when we get to Notre Dame USC
or we go to Las Vegas.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
I think we're pushing the finish line to Las Vegas.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Okay, that would be in November.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
That would be November.
Speaker 5 (00:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Yeah, there's a Formula one race, and I thought, you
know what, let me get outside my comfort zone here
a little bit, not going to Vegas, but going to
Vegas and having Formula one. I thought, you know what,
let's be part of the beautiful people and maybe let's
try to do that. Got friends at Fountain Blue, it
took care of us at the Super Bowl, and thought,
you know what, maybe we go out there, maybe we
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go out to Formula one, maybe we get dressed up.
Speaker 6 (01:07):
Yes, Polly, that was my concern. Do we have f
one clothing in our wardrobes? They dressed pretty smooth over there.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Yeah, I need one of those like Jesse Palmer, collarless
leather jackets. I feel like that just has like the
snap over here. He can wear that well.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Yes he can, Yeah, Marvin, I think can do style.
You start from the ground up. That's where fashion starts from.
Always from the ground up. You always have a great
shoe collection. I'm ready for Vegas, Okay, So I think
that's November and then October is Notre Dame USC. But
in the meantime, I don't know how we're going to
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gauge who's in better shape or who lost weight or
body fat, whatever it is. All of a sudden, we
decided that everybody is going to get in shape.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Is that right? Yeah, Paul.
Speaker 6 (02:01):
The question over here is looking at us. Is three
months enough time to get jacked? Because that's about what
it is till three months, three months, two weeks.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Well, I think you and Seaton have a head start
because you guys have been.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Already pretty jacked.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Yes, of course, yes, yes, you guys have been pretty regimented.
Cutting down on alcohol. I don't know if you're watching
what you're eating, but you're cut down on alcohol. Marvin
has been working out, todd says he takes a walk
every day.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
I've been watching Marvin work out a very good job.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
All right, well we'll I'm not sure how we measure this.
That's the only thing of who would be the winner
of the jacked off contest?
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Here? Who is jacked Yes, marmon.
Speaker 7 (02:46):
Do we take before and after photos?
Speaker 5 (02:49):
No?
Speaker 6 (02:49):
No, like naked, look like Tom Brady at the combine?
Speaker 4 (02:53):
Yeah, combine photos in our underwear?
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Yes?
Speaker 8 (02:57):
All right?
Speaker 6 (03:02):
Can we get a month to get ready for the
free photo.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
Looking good?
Speaker 9 (03:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:08):
And then we'll get a sponsorship. We'll get it to
you know, somebody to M drive will sponsor this.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
We'll bring them back. Yeah, We'll get.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Some kind of fitness you know, health club that's going
to get involved in this.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
And that's Marvin.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Put the M and M drive.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Come on our drive, Marvin put the M and.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Alrighty, welcome to the program.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Yes, yes, Marvin.
Speaker 7 (03:35):
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one okay, already damn give us.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Pandora if we go to Vegas.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Pandora, who's outside of Reno has to come in and
sing stat of the day, has to right, has to Yes,
I'm going to get a maybe a piano, and then
she'll be lying across the top like what was that?
The Fabulous Baker Boys with Sel Fife, Michelle Pfeiffer, The Day,
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Speaker 3 (04:42):
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Speaker 3 (04:48):
Yes, Eton, there's.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
Almost a Sweeney Sisters quality to that song by Pandora.
Do you remember the Sweeney Sisters.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
I do not.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
It was a Saturday night live bit with Jane Curtin
and somebody else, and they were like like lounge singers
at the Poconos or something like that. You know, and uh,
there's a very famous Sweeney Sisters bit where Paul Simon
is sitting in the crowd and they start singing all
of these Simon and Garfunkel songs. Yeah, and it is hilarious.
(05:17):
Pandora's got some of those Sweeney Sisters qualities, guest un
Jan Hooks and Nora Dunne.
Speaker 8 (05:23):
That's very silly, awesome lounge at.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, welcome to the program. Already in
progress by the way, and uh, you know, we were wondering,
what is the lead story today? You do have training
campy and Rapaport of NFL Network will join us coming up,
Trey Hendrickson back with the Bengals but still unsigned, Baseball
trade deadline tomorrow. Otani's going to be pitching tonight. And
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then we thought, well, you know, the real lead is
probably Liam Neeson and Pam Anderson are dating because they're
starting in the re of Naked Gun or is it
a I don't know, is it a remake of Naked
Gun or is it just an addition to the original
Naked Gun? When was the last Naked Gun with Leslie Nielsen?
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And we've seen these separations here with Top Gun and
Maverick Happy Gilmore Happy Gilmore too, and Naked Gun.
Speaker 7 (06:21):
Yes, Marvin Thing was the Naked Gun thirty three and
the third Yes Anna Nicole Smith with the love interest.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Of Leslie Nielsen. I think, so, yeah, okay, yes, Paul.
Speaker 6 (06:31):
Is this Pamela Anderson Liam Neeson thing real? I saw
a couple of clips yesterday that they were getting chummy
and being fun during the press junket.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Sources, I think No. I don't have sources on it,
but I did see these clips. They were on the
Today Show, and I don't, you know, sometimes you act
lovey dovey, you know. I think Sydney Sweeney and Glenn
Powell did that. They were in a movie and they
were both in relationships, but they were very love They
were selling it and I don't know it fell of
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them are in relationships anymore, though, I know, yeah, they
were selling it a little too well. I think Leslie
neil Or I think Liam Neeson and Pam Anderson seemed
like an item.
Speaker 9 (07:16):
There.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
There was a picture where Pam had her sons there
and Liam Neeson had his sons there, and they're both single,
and it just felt like there was there was something
going on, felt like there were some sparks going on there. Yes, unt,
I will hunt you down.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
I will find you, and I will take you out
to dinner.
Speaker 8 (07:36):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
That's how he got her.
Speaker 12 (07:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Do you think he did that taken voice?
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Yeah, Todd does that voice occasionally, just walks around nobody
in particular that he's speaking to, and then he'll do
his Leslie.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
I always say, Leslie, Liam Neeson, why don't we.
Speaker 8 (07:52):
Grab some coffee sometime, perhaps this evening.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
I will hunt you down and I will kill you
the chicken.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Yes, but good for every time you see Pam Anderson,
it feels like every picture says make up free Pam Anderson.
Speaker 9 (08:12):
Now.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
I saw her in the Last show Girl, and she
was really good in that movie.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
It's it's about a showgirl in Las Vegas and she's
getting old. They're gonna stop doing the showgirl performances. And
I thought she came off very well. I thought, you know,
you don't. I don't think you think Pam as a
great actress, But in this role, I thought she was
really good and good for her if she found love.
(08:43):
Wasn't she married to somebody for like forty eight hours?
Speaker 9 (08:48):
Some was it?
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Robert Evans, The movie executive. I think she went to
see Julian Assange. Is that his name.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
I think at the time he was known as the
luckiest man in the world for forty eight hours. Yes, yes,
but the Weekender I think they called it. Well, he
was gonna use the Weekender.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Yeah. You don't have to get married, Yeah yeah, just.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
Get married on a Friday, devo on a Monday.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Yeah, all right, Hey, no harm, no foul. Yeah, I
bet you just go out, you know what.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
It was fun while it lasted, and then that's it.
Speaker 6 (09:21):
Yes, Paul, I'm trying to find a hard news report,
no pun intended. Liam Neeson's seventy three years old, she's
fifty eight. I found nothing on NPR or BBC. But
I did find People magazine report.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
That's my bible.
Speaker 5 (09:34):
That's right.
Speaker 6 (09:34):
Pamela Anderson and Liam Neeson are dating. It's clear there's
smitten exclusive source to People.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
But then you had Martin Short and you had uh,
the great actress Selena Gomes No, no, not her, but she's.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
In that series. No, who's the greatest female on Eryl Street? Yes,
Meryl Street.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
Their getting that for it.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Well, I don't know if it's that. I don't know
that's the description. I think they're dating.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Like I think she got divorced and I think her
they met on only Murders in the building and they're
going out with each other. I believe they are going
out with each other. That's hot, although I read where
they're right now going through a rough patch.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
But all right, let it breathe a little bit, let's
get into it.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Yes, but yeah, I think uh Liam Neeson and Pam Anderson,
they're they're getting after it. Well, like I said, I
don't know what that means, or have you ever been smitten? God,
you strike me as you're smitten just about every night
when you watch local newscasts.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
Four a week, something I got just my eye gets
me sweat.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
And nobody watches more local news than Fritzy.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
Shout out to Rachel Frank, Fox sixty one News.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Thank you, Tod. All righty, So we're just getting started here,
and do we have a poll question to start seton?
Speaker 4 (10:57):
We do? I think we're doing that after the break.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
No, we need to dice.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
We need to digest some of the news that we've
just made.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Okay talking about here, Okay, all right, DraftKings just sent
me the nl MVP odds in the American League MVP odds,
and it's basically show Hayo tanis in both. It is
it show Heyotani over Pete crow Armstrong. But it's getting
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interesting in the American League because cal Raley is not
that far behind Aaron Judge. When you know, with these
MVP onds right now, Aaron Judge is minus one sixty.
Cal Rawley is plus one thirty. So he's in the
rear view mirror of Aaron Judge right now, and Judge
is injured. Show Heyotani minus two thousand, Pete Crow Armstrong
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plus thirteen hundred.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
That is a I would make room in my trophy case.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
If I'm Otani, I would say to my hun got
to make room for another one of these MVPs.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
That would give him four. I believe, yes, Pauline.
Speaker 6 (12:07):
And Otani's pitching a little bit more every week and
pitching well in his six appearances so far this year,
twelve innings but thirteen k's, three walks, only two earned runs.
He's pitching fantastic.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
But you can frame the box score July twenty nine
to twenty twenty five that Sho he O'tani looked human
because we all know he's extraordinary, he is the unicorn.
But last night against the Reds, he struck out four
consecutive times. Now he's struck out four times in a
game a couple of times in his career. More importantly,
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the Dodgers won this but shoe Hey, Otani was a
mere mortal last night. Four consecutive strikeouts there, but they
did get the win. Trade deadline will come up tomorrow.
Lucas and Texas leads us off this morning. Hi, Luke,
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 9 (13:00):
Hey to and good morning.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Good morning.
Speaker 12 (13:03):
Very temporarily, Lucas and Kentucky are some work and then
tonight it's going to be Lucas and Cincinnati's. I'm going
to the Dodgers Reds game, excited for that. But I
just wanted to bring up two baseball things. I know
we're about to jump into football season full time. But
number one, looking at like the third market, our aftermarket
ticket sales, the Otani effect is so real. The difference
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between tickets last night and today is more than double.
I mean, it's a real effect that he has, even
especially on the road.
Speaker 8 (13:33):
But the other thing, I know.
Speaker 12 (13:35):
There's been discussion about Rob Manfred and some of the
you know, the frank discussions that are having about the
future of the game. I do want to give credit
where credit is to. I've been to three different parts
this year, three different games in person, and if you
haven't over the last couple of years, the changes that
they've implemented with pitchclock, with time between innings has made
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a noticeably better effect on the end game experience. It's
like actually at the stadium before you know it. You
look down at your watch in the eighth inning and
you're like, man, we've only been here for two hours.
It's a noticeably better effect and I wish more people
would see it. But got to give credit where credit
it is due.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Thank you, Lucas. Yeah, and I spoke about Rob Manfred
going into the Phillies locker room. I don't know the
full details. I know what was reported. I don't know
if something led up to the confrontation between the commissioner
and Bryce Harper. I just was disappointed that Bryce Harper
is using that language to the commissioner in front of everybody.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
And I'd like to know more.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
We've invited both on and because I know going in
there and talking about a salary cap the players don't
want to hear that. But I do give the commissioner
credit that at least he was meeting with people face
to face. But I don't think you need to say
get the f out of here if you're Bryce Harper.
Would Bryce Harper say that if it was just the
commissioner and Bryce Harper and they're meeting in his office
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in New York City? Or how would the Bryce Harper
take it if he came to see the commissioner and
the commissioner said get the f out of here, It
wouldn't go well. But the commissioner his job is to
oversee the health of the game and moving it forward.
I think he's done a really good job in some areas,
a really good job. You know, he whiffed on the astros.
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I don't like the let's start at second base and
the tenth inning. I don't like that, But there's some
other things that he's implemented that have helped the game.
His job is to grow the game. Sometimes you grow
the game and you're not making friends, or you're making
friends on one side and not the other side. And yes,
the commissioner does work for the owners, but Bryce Harper
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to say it and the commissioner didn't back down. He
wanted to stay in there. But I'd like to know
a little bit more about it, because there's probably three
sides to this. But I was just surprise that give
the commissioner the respect for coming in there. You may
not like what he's gonna say, but you should still
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respect him. All Right, we'll take a break. We'll come
up with our poll question. Got our play of the day.
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Hey u Tani struck out in each of his first
four plate appearances. Dodgers beat the Reds. That's the first
time he's done that in nine hundred and eighty one
games in Major League Baseball. He struck out four times
in a game six times in his career, including once
earlier this season. He will be pitching tonight against the
Cincinnati Reds. We uh were talking earlier before the show
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started about the nickname. You know, sometimes you'll get a nickname.
Some players give themselves a nickname. Travis Hunter is called
the Unicorn. Now Chris tom Sportzingis was called the Unicorn.
We have different players, I think who have been called
the unicorn. And Travis Hunter was asked about the nickname.
Speaker 6 (18:27):
Travis, we got to come up with a nickname for
you us nobody does.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
What you do is the unicorn.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
It is unicorn.
Speaker 6 (18:35):
Dad, get it out there and get some posters and
stuff for.
Speaker 9 (18:38):
That kind of thing.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
Yeah, I'm I'm gonna ill see what I could do.
I like it.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
I like the Unicorn.
Speaker 9 (18:41):
I'm selling the machine though, because you play all those plays,
how many plays do you think you could play?
Speaker 14 (18:46):
Think you can play them all?
Speaker 8 (18:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (18:47):
I definitely think I could play them all. If I
didn't think I could play them all, won't be trying
to do it all.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Right, So he's been called the Unicorn.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
I think he was called that in college, and uh
now in Jacksonville his rookie year and words getting around
a little bit deeper in NFL circles of being called
the unicorn. I don't know how much he's going to
play on offense this year, but if you look at
last season when he won the Heisman Trophy, he was
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part of almost eighty seven percent of the offensive plays
and he was part of eighty three percent of the
defensive plays. If I'm going to look at what will
be the percentages in the NFL probably start out eighty twenty,
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eighty percent, twenty percent. How do you use him? Can
you bring him in as a decoy? How much do
you want to have him playing defense? Then do you
wait till third down for offense? Now he is young,
so I'm guessing that he knows what he's capable of doing.
This is just a question of if you have a
new head coach and Liam Liam Cohen, and how much
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do you want to use him? You need him, You
definitely need him, and you start to wonder how much
can you use him? This is that you know, rookies
talk about hitting the wall in all sports. Where you go, boy,
this is a long season. And it is because you know,
the game is more demanding than college. Now, college they're
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playing fourteen, fifteen games if you include the bowl game.
Now you have a seventeen game schedule, and maybe you
go into the postseason, maybe you add a couple more
games there. But they'll they'll talk about hitting the wall,
and I think that would be the one thing that
I would caution it and the Jags on is how
can I keep him? I need him fresh and ready
to go late in the season. We don't need to
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do it to get attention here. We can build on this.
Let's see how well he plays, Let's see how well
he plays defensively, and then we can bring him over offensively.
I just I don't want him splitting and I don't
want him being good at both. I would like for
him to be great at one of them, and then
if he's really good at the other one or good
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at the other one, you know that that's going to
be an unbelievable start to his career. I'm surprised there
there hasn't been that much fanfare. And granted he plays
for Jacksonville, but Shador Sanders. The attention for Shadoor Dwarfs
Travis Hunter. Cleveland passed on Travis Hunter in speaking of
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the Cleveland Browns. Jimmy Haslam is the owner of the Browns,
and he was asked who made the call draft night
to take Shador Sanders.
Speaker 8 (21:37):
We have good.
Speaker 10 (21:37):
Process, okay, And if you just told me Friday night
driving home, y'all are going to pick Shador, I would
say that that's not happening. But we had a conversation
early that morning, and then we had a conversation later
that day. I think we had the right people involved
in the conversation at the end of the day.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
That's Andrew Berry's call. Andrew made the call to pick Shador, Okay.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Now it felt I thought too when I heard that
if this goes south, you know who to blame. But
also maybe Jimmy Haslam is finally doing the right thing.
That you're not a smart football guy. Did you make
the call on Deshaun Watson? And if you did, that's
why you should turn it over to your football people
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because you gave him a completely guaranteed contract there.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
But this is on Andrew Berry, your GM. He made
the call with Shadoor Sanders.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Now I was told differently, But the owner is telling
you because I think that there was a phone call
or two made without getting too specific about this, to
nudge Jimmy Haslam to take Shador Sanders, and I think
that's what happened. But and look, if they get one
(22:53):
of these courts, nobody's talking about Dylan Gabriel and he
was taken before Shadoor Sanders and had a decorated college
career here, far more decorated than Shaudor. But you know,
there's the possibility that shud Or Sanders could be the
quarterback for them. I don't think if you emerge as
the starting quarterback, it's Kenny Pickett, it's a forty year
(23:15):
old Joe Flacco, and Dylan Gabriel. I mean, it's not
exactly Marino and Elway and Jim Kelly. But you know,
it feels like Shaudor Sanders has some obstacles in front
of him that his name helped him, but his name
is hurting him a little bit because we're like, Okay,
let's see how great you are, and we saw how
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far he slipped. But the only thing I can go
on is my source told me that he's acted mature.
Aside from the speeding tickets that when he's he's on
the football field, he's business. It's it's not there's no
sense of entitlement. I don't know what that means. I
don't know how that translates to can you play on Sunday?
Speaker 9 (23:59):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
And when people say, well, you got the Sanders name,
he's not an athlete like his dad. He's just not.
He's a drop back, pocket passer. He's not going to
beat you with his legs. I'm told that he is
more athletic than people are giving him credit for. I said, well,
the problem is his dad is one of the great
athletes who's ever played the game. But by all accounts,
(24:24):
it feels like he is ingratiating himself to his teammates.
And that's really important. But I just want to know,
can you play on Sunday?
Speaker 3 (24:32):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
And it still feels like Joe Flacco is going to
be a starting quarterback for the Cleveland Browns, Like that's
the safe pick, that's where I would go because we're
talking about cam Ward. Is cam Ward going to be
ready for the Titans? He has to be, but Shador
doesn't have to be ready or Dylan Gabriel, Kenny Pickett's
battling an injury, but it might be Joe Flacco, and
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Joe Flacco might give you a better chance of winning
because you get all that experience. I mean, he's a
pocket passer as well. And I'm not sure if they
have a game plan. Great, because they have two first
round picks next year. I want to know how much
time they'll give Dylan Gabriel and Shador Sanders to see
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if they can actually play starting quarterback in the NFL.
Because if you remember, Colin Cowherd had the speculation, I
can't say it's a report that the Browns would maybe
bring in Nick Saban and then draft arch Manning. Well,
Jimmy Haslam, the Browns owner, was talking about arch Manning.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Well, Tony, you know, you're.
Speaker 10 (25:42):
In the business and you get paid by how many
hits you get, Okay, And I think if you know
the Manning family, I would bet that.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
And I don't know Arts at all.
Speaker 10 (25:48):
Okay, I bet he stays in college two years, So
I don't even think that's worth discussing.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Okay, that's the way I feel. Arch Manning is going
to play two more years.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
That it's not so Nick Saban's going to wait two
more years for arch Manning and then you've got to
make sure you draft him. It just seemed, you know,
like a long shot that any of those possibilities could happen,
you know, and maybe maybe Shoud or Sanders or Dylan
Gabriel is his starting quarterback and you could turn your
(26:20):
attention to somebody else. I don't think the Browns are
going to be that good. I think the over under
might be five wins, five and a half wins. I
think the team to keep an eye on being bad.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
The Giants.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Feels like the Giant season hinges on Malik Neighbors staying healthy,
and then there was a report yesterday where he got
banged up a little bit. You can't lose him because
they got a tough schedule. You're in that division and
you've got three quarterbacks, two quarterbacks. You know, Jackson Dart
is he going to play? You got Russell Wilson, Jameis Winston.
(26:57):
It just feels like, and look at their schedule when
you pull up their schedule, PAULI, because the Giants could
be like one in eight, maybe you know, one in seven,
something like two and seven to start out, because it's
pretty tough sledding for the Giants right out of the gate.
Speaker 6 (27:15):
Yeah, the Giants are at the Commander's at Dallas, host
the Chiefs, hosted, Chargers at the Saints. Little break than Eagles, Broncos, Eagles, Niners.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Yeah, all better teams. It's pretty tough.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
You could know where the Giants stand after around nine games,
and it feels like it's make or break for that coach.
Maybe the front office there what happened with Saquon Barkley?
You get you know, you take Jackson Dart? Is he
going to play this year? Are they even going to
be around to help develop him? But that schedule is
pretty tough. I think it's one of the top five
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toughest schedules in the NFL. Yes, Paully and Elik neighbors
for the Giants last year. One of the most targeted
rookies in NFL history. He started thirteen games, one hundred
and seventy targets. He caught one hundred and nine balls
for seven touchdowns. He's a great player, great player, But
is Rusher starting quarterback? And how long till Jackson Dart?
(28:18):
Do you wait until maybe the season is a wash
and then you bring in Jackson Dart and then you
start to see what you have to build for the
future because it feels like the Giants could be the
worst team in the NFL. They're at least in the conversation,
and that's not a conversation you want to be involved
(28:38):
in yet, Paul, going back.
Speaker 6 (28:39):
To Cleveland, Shandor Sanders started fifty games in college. Dylan
Gabriel started sixty four games in college. He played six
college seasons.
Speaker 9 (28:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Yeah, those guys with the COVID years, you know, they
put up, you know, big numbers as far as starts,
and that's you know, that's a great sample size. But
I haven't heard much about Dylan Gabriel. But part of
that is he might be performing better than Shadover Sanders,
but Shadover Sanders is going to get the coverage so
much so he's getting more coverage than Travis Hunter, who
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is going to be a legitimate maybe every down player, incredible,
and the unicorn. He wants to be called the unicorn.
I'm fine, good, good, you know, yeah, Pauling.
Speaker 6 (29:25):
We're working on some how about the hybrid you get
a car deal. I don't think anyone's been called the hybrid. Okay,
covers both things.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Okay, Todd, you got any nickname suggestions?
Speaker 5 (29:39):
Hey, don't have anything great yet, but I'll continue to
think about it. Okay, I don't want to force it.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Oh, you don't wait till later. I'm going to guess
in the next ten minutes, you'll probably have some realis.
Speaker 9 (29:52):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Yeah, yes, I'm good to guess.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Alan Hershey, Pennsylvania High Al. What's on your mind today?
Speaker 9 (30:01):
Hey?
Speaker 3 (30:02):
How Glenn in San Diego? Hi, Glenn, what's on your
mind today?
Speaker 9 (30:10):
Damn? Thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
How are you guys doing great?
Speaker 8 (30:13):
Glenn?
Speaker 9 (30:14):
Hey, listen, I just had a suggestion and a request.
I'm going to give you the request first, so I
don't choke on this. The Harbor mannequin, can't we upgrade
him to charger gear this year? Because I really believe
we're going to go to the AFC Championship. Unfortunately to
lose to the Bills, but we are going places this year.
Speaker 8 (30:30):
And I think you guys should.
Speaker 9 (30:31):
Use Jacklink Sausages your sponsor for the jack Off, because,
rather you realize it or not, this Jackof's going to
be huge.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
All right, Well, thank you, thank you, Glenn.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
We appreciate that if the Chargers go to the AFC
title game, then we'll change the Jim Harball Michigan Mannequin,
Michigan man.
Speaker 8 (30:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Do you think we're safe keeping the Jim Harball Michigan Mannequin?
Oh for sure.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Really the Chargers AFC title game. Okay, I'm not mining in.
I can't do it anymore. I did it too long,
too many years.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
I can't do it.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Even if they get there, I'd be like, great, it's
just like Arizona basketball. If they make the Final four,
then I'll go Okay, hey, I'll eat my words here.
Speaker 6 (31:14):
Yes, I think you're making a horrible mistake. You've been
on the Chargers since I've known you, and they were
eleven and six. Last year they added a great running
two great running backs. Harball always wins. They went from
five to twelve to eleven and six with the.
Speaker 5 (31:28):
Same basic roster. I know I am all in on the.
Speaker 11 (31:31):
All in, all in, all in, all in, all in,
But what's that mean I would be here's the bet
for you.
Speaker 8 (31:42):
I'll bet that they.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
Win a playoff game. Okay, all in.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Ish ish, that's not AFC title game.
Speaker 5 (31:51):
Let me let me consider it one.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Okay, Look, Carball has a formula. I mean that he
knows what the recipe is. No matter where he is,
he tries to incorporate the same recipe. They're a running
team defense and Justin Herbert, we need you to be magical.
You don't have to be Superman. You can be Clark Kent.
(32:14):
This is what Daniel Jeremiah, this former scout said yesterday
on the show. You can be Clark Kent, but occasionally
be Superman. That's all you need. I think he joins
us on the program tomorrow. Justin Herbert right Ton, correct,
thank you, Tod.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Yes, Paul.
Speaker 6 (32:27):
Chargers outscored their opponents last year by one hundred and
one points. The Chiefs outscored their opponents by fifty nine.
Just to give all a comparison. They won their last three.
The Chargers are.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
Poised, but then they had the playoff game that always
gets in the way from it.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Yeah, it does at damn playoff.
Speaker 6 (32:46):
If they could jump from Week seventeen to the Super Bowl, Yes,
is Philip Rivers going to join us, Tod, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (32:51):
It's a big Chargers date.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Tomahow Okay, all in, let's get Ladanian, Tomlinson and Dan Founce.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
I would round it up yeah. Atron means come on,
Oh Chuck Munsey, Oh the glass, Chuck Munsey with the glasses.
Stan Humphreys, come on.
Speaker 5 (33:09):
Okay, live a little train. James and Deep.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Ron Yary former number one overall pick I think great, Lineman,
how about we take break?
Speaker 1 (33:19):
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Speaker 2 (33:31):
He's headed to Broncos camp and then he goes to
the Patriots and the Bills. NFL Networks Inside training Camp
airs daily through August sixth, and Ian joins us, Now,
when's the last time you visited a camp and you
got either one of those oh my gosh positive or
oh my gosh negative feeling. Uh.
Speaker 8 (33:53):
I've had some. I've had some overly positive ones, I think,
you know, especially for some of the places that have
like really struggled the last couple of years. Like, you know,
I was just at the Chiefs and it looks I mean,
the practice was so good. It was tough and tense,
but it was so good, and mahomes looked awesome. But
you're sort of like, all right, like that's what you expect.
(34:13):
It was like a good reminder of why the Chiefs
are in the Super Bowl basically every year. But then
you go a couple other places and you can be like,
all right, I can see if they're gonna have a
big turnaround, Like why Like I was at the Titans
and you see Cam Moore, you watch him throw a
little bit, you gain an understanding for why teammates and
(34:34):
coaches love him to work as and all that stuff,
and I left there being like, I don't know how
many times they're gonna win this year, Like maybe it's
like six or seven, I don't know, but I can
really see how the rebuild would start now. And so
like that's sort of what you get, you know, rather
than like, all right, this team's gonna win the super
Bowl because like the really good teams, they kind of
(34:56):
look just normal to you.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
You know, what do you think of the Bronco that
they felt like they surprised people? And I know you're
just going there now, But now we expect Bonicks to
be a playoff caliber quarterback. We know Sean Payton's all
Hall of Fame coach, but the expectation level, like the
Commanders as well, that second year.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
We saw this with the Texans.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
You know, what is it you feel like when you
think of the Broncos going into what can is considered
like the second year of this turnaround.
Speaker 8 (35:28):
Yeah, I mean it's definitely going to get harder. Schedule
will get harder, expectations will get more. I think people
know what to expect a bon Nicks now. I think
last year I would be in that list of like,
is Bonnicks going to be a franchise starting quarterback in
the NFL? Like I really wasn't sure. I really didn't know.
(35:49):
You watch him enough last year. You watch, like, for instance,
of plays he made in that Bengals game late, and
this guy looks legit. And so the Broncos had no
business winning that many games last year. They really didn't.
Like I thought it would be kind of like a
transition yeer like six or seven, and they were really
good and they didn't even have the personnel close to
(36:11):
being as good as they as the record once. And
so this year, you know, another year in the draft,
another year of development, some key free agents like you
know Lufanga and green Law Booth like love both of those.
They should be good, Like I know, the expectations are more,
but they should be more ready as an organization to
be good and like it was a good reminder for
(36:33):
me and I guess for everyone. Sean Payton is a very,
very excellent head coach.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
I'm wondering about the trend.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
The NFL is a copycat league, and is the trend
going with younger coaches?
Speaker 3 (36:48):
You know, you do have Pete Carroll.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
I think there's always the possibility of Belichick or if
Nick Saban wants to get back in it. But is
the trend now with that younger guy offensive minded or
you know, even in Aaron Glenn's situation, defensive minded.
Speaker 8 (37:05):
Yeah, I mean that's kind of what it feels like,
or at least let me say this. If you have
a young guy that's really good, you don't hear anymore like,
well he hasn't paid his dues or is he ready?
It feels more like actually kind of like the players
are treated or it's like, if you're talented enough, start
(37:26):
to make mistakes and everyone will be okay with it
because learning while doing it is better than not having
that talent on the field, you know what I mean. So, like,
you know, there's gonna be some young coaches who like
Liam Cohen is a great example, right, Like he's really smart,
he's really talented. I was in Jacksonville. He sounds like
he has a really good vision for what he wants
(37:47):
it to look like and how hard it needs to be.
And he has been trained by Sean mcvain, Todd Bowles
to guys who have done it consistently, like they should
be better this year, but like it's not gonna be
perfect because he's a young coach who hasn't done it.
So I think teams are more willing to roll with
some of the growing pains and like it's not just
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you know, it's not just head coaches, right, like the
aufititive court name or of the coordinator named Grant Yudinsky,
who's like in his late twenties I think and is
already in oc and ten years ago would never be
but he's talented enough where it's like, you know what,
let's just do it.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Talking to Ian Rappaport, NFL Network Insider, part of NFL
Networks Inside Training Camp airs daily through August sixth, John
Gruden put out something where he says something about he's
on the verge of doing something coming back. I don't
know if you saw that. Is there a future for
(38:47):
John Gruden to come back in the NFL in your opinion?
Speaker 8 (38:53):
You know, there's still some some legal issues that need
to be worked through now, like if somebody wants to
hire him. My sense is if there would be things
where everybody could get together on the legal side and
figure it out and either compromise or just settle it,
handle it whatever. Like perhaps, you know, I'm sure there's
(39:15):
some interest. I haven't heard any team particularly trying to
hire him as a head coach. I did know there
were some teams that thought about hiring him as a coordinator, which, like,
how would you you know, would be hard to have
a better hire than that as a coordinator. I would
say to me, as someone who likes football content as
(39:39):
much as football, I kind of like him where he is.
To be honest, that's just like selfish. He's he's he's
in a great spot. I mean, I think it's his
stuff is really good. But I wouldn't rule it out.
I really wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
The hold ins Trey hendrickson coming back to the Bengals
means what to you.
Speaker 11 (40:01):
It means.
Speaker 8 (40:03):
I wouldn't say they're closer to a deal, but it's
harder to not do a deal if that makes sense,
Like he's there. And this is why I always feel
just sort of like personal preference that hold ins are
more effective than holdouts. Holdouts to me, like I wouldn't
want to get fined and give away a bunch of
money like that wouldn't be my move. But hold ends
(40:26):
are tough because you see them every day. The fans
see them every day at training camp. You know, do
you know how good Tree Henderson is, You know how
good Terry McLaurin is. So if you're a coach, you're
constantly looking at them like, hey, if that guy was
on the field, like we would be a lot better.
(40:46):
And so, you know, sometimes that can push a deal.
I thought it was, you know, the right move for
both of those guys to come in and ramp up
the pressure, and I think there's a deal to be
made for both of those players, just you know, you
hope it sooner rather than later.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
And then the Micah Parsons situation as well, I just
feels like all of these deals get done. I know,
we get excited, we're hungry for any content this time
of the year, but I just why do we wait.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
Why do owners wait?
Speaker 8 (41:18):
I don't. I don't want to say it's owners waiting.
I think for Micah Parsons, everybody seems to be waiting.
You know. I've always thought that Micah would be should
be the highest paid, like highest paid non quarterback in
the NFL the whole season. And so if that's the case,
he's got to go last. And he is very smart
(41:40):
and very savvy and business wise, you know, probably as
well versed as anyone his age and so, and his agent,
David Ullagetta, is very good at educating clients so they
know if you go last, you are the most. And
so my sense is he was going to be last.
I don't know if it's going to be like scrambling
(42:02):
around before kickoff like with Dak a couple of years
ago or last year whenever that was. But my sense
is it's last. And like Aiden Hutchinson, you know, is
in talks for a new deal with the Lines, Maybe
that happens and then then Micah goes.
Speaker 3 (42:18):
Better run organization. The Chiefs are the Eagles.
Speaker 8 (42:25):
Similar better run I don't know. I mean, the Chiefs
have been doing it for longer, but the Eagles have
done such an unbelievable job of Like it's a good
mix of keeping veterans that you want to keep and
then letting the guys you you're okay letting go go
and just replacing them in the draft. Both of those
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guys do an awesome job of drafting players and not
needing them to play so they can learn the right way.
I don't know who's better, but this is kind of
where you want to get to, right, Like, you know,
I don't I don't records or predictions or whatever, but
I don't really know anyone who doesn't believe both of
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those teams are going to have double digit wins this year,
next year, the year after. Like that's just what it's like.
And you know, that's an unbelievable reality, it really is.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
We go to the other end of the rainbow.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
The Browns owner Jimmy Haslam came out and said, this
draft selection of Shadoor Sanders is on his GM Andrew Berry.
What did you make of that comment by the owner?
Speaker 8 (43:33):
So I understand it, and it is right, Like I
know that this was Andrew Berry's pick. I know it
was in consultation with his football people as coaches, his
personnel staff, and then you know the Browns. I mean,
it sounds strange to say for because of the record,
but they really are a very well run franchise despite
having a quarterback Albatross and Sean Watson in that contract,
(43:55):
in that situation and all that, they really do it
the right way. In the right way is your football.
People make the decisions, the owner empowers them and gives
the okay, and then you move forward. There's two things
that I didn't love about that whole situation. I think
one is the quote is being a little bit taken
out of context, as in like it's Andrew Berry's blame,
(44:17):
like he's the GM, like they're all his picks. So
I thought it was fine. I just feels like people
are missing the context. The other thing is Chador might
be good, Like I have no idea and I'm going
to go there in a couple of days, but we're
not going to know this year. We may not know
next year. So I don't really understand what it feels
like people are blaming Andrew Berry like there is a
(44:39):
chance and it's you know, non zero percent that Shador
Sanders is the franchise quarterback for the Browns and it's
one of the best picks they ever made in franchise history.
That is an absolute possibility. He is very talented, So
you know, yes it was the GM's pick, but we
don't know how it's going to go.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
Yeah, I think the one thing I wonder about, if
it's Dylan Gay or Shador Sanders, is how much of
a runway the Browns will give them with two first
round picks next year. And if you know that, you
got to fight that urge of do we see enough
with Shadoor or Dylan Gabriel to go let's give them
another year, or do you go all in with the
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two first round picks and try to get you your
franchise quarterback.
Speaker 8 (45:23):
That is a that is the biggest of all the
things for the Browns this year. And I know they're
trying to win, and like the actual roster's pretty good.
I think Placco, if he starts, could be totally fine.
But that's the issue. And like I've thought about it
a ton, because like you're on the road alone, all
you do is thick about these door key football things, right,
I don't it's gonna be hard because like let's say
(45:44):
it's a struggle and let's say they're kind of not ready.
All the fans are going to care about all the
talk radio and reporters, and Cleveland is a very intense
media environment. All anyone's gonna care about is Blake community,
the young guys, and it might be it might be
Dylan Gabriel. There's a lot of people in the draft
who said if Dyan Gabriel was six' to, two he'd
be an early, pick which you, know shout out to short.
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GUYS i rootra all of. THEM i JUST i don't
know how you avoid that. Temptation but that's the story
of their.
Speaker 2 (46:16):
Season to, me when's the last time you had a
player get in your face over something you reported or?
Speaker 8 (46:21):
Said it? Does it almost never happens BECAUSE i guess
had you know a player sort of make a snide,
comment like maybe once every five, years but you can
never tell if they're. Joking WHAT i try to do
is BEFORE i do, ANYTHING i have the, conversation like
(46:45):
even though it's really FAST pasd like a lot of,
times you know you sort of know what you're going
to hit send on before you do. It SO i
try to get to the agent or player or THE
gm or THE pr guy and just be, like here's
WHAT i, have just to have the conversation before it goes.
Public so LIKE i used, to you, know first seven
(47:06):
or eight years doing, this it used to happen all the.
Time now it almost never happens because at least people
know what to expect WHEN i say it ON tv
or WHEN i hit send on a.
Speaker 3 (47:15):
Tweet great to catch up with, You, ian safe. Travels
thanks for joining.
Speaker 8 (47:19):
US i got thirty nine on a three point nine
more miles so this this timing was. Perfect Thanks.
Speaker 2 (47:25):
Dan all, Right that'sie And RAPPAPORT Nfl Network, INSIDER Nfl
networks inside training camp airs every day Through august.
Speaker 3 (47:34):
Sixth.
Speaker 2 (47:34):
Oh he's been to The, Bucks, Jags, Titans, Saints, Bears,
chiefs and he's got The patriots and The bills coming.
Speaker 3 (47:42):
Up you can be in camp.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
Now WHEN i worked In New york AT, cnn AND
i would go out to The jets camp and The giants,
camps and you could get a sense it was. Weird
it shouldn't be something that's, tangible but like it it felt.
Different you, know The giants were onto something with. Parcels,
now The jets did have. Talent The jets had the sack.
(48:06):
Exchange you, know they they but it felt different. There
it felt like The giants were. Professional they knew what
their roles. Were and you Had belichick or you Had
Bill parcells And belichick as your defensive. Coordinator it felt
like they knew that they were going to do something
big or bigger or.
Speaker 3 (48:26):
Special The jets were just a fascinating group of.
Speaker 2 (48:30):
Personalities you Had Mark gastineaux, There Joe, klecko one of
my favorite, Players ken, O'Brien and you just you Al.
Tuon you had talent, there but it's it was just
a different. Feeling it's almost like The yankees and The,
mets where you can have, talent but they just don't
(48:52):
feel like they're the same or the same run. Organization
but being Around Mark gastoneau Of Rolls, royce he was
Dating Brigitte, nielsen who was did she Marry Sylvester stallone
or were? THEY i think so they, Dated oh my,
gosh and it was it was a big. Deal like
(49:15):
but he was just not liked by his teammates because
even WHEN i would go out there and you, Know Marty,
Lyons Joe, klecko it was At Abdul salaam like these
guys knew that you're kind of out there for gast to.
Speaker 3 (49:29):
Know like they they were like here for gas to.
Speaker 2 (49:32):
Know AND i, go, well you know kind of because
he was a big deal and uh but, yeah just
to sit down with, him and he had bigger, aspirations you,
know it felt like he wanted to be this is Before,
schwarzenegger you, know one of those action heroes that that's
what he was hoping.
Speaker 3 (49:50):
For, yeah.
Speaker 6 (49:51):
BALLING i went back to double check And Mark gasno
has not made The hall Of. Fame and you talked
about likability hurting someone's case or behavior after your care
but he had a five year. Run he was four
time first Team All pro four years in a. Row
that's hard not to make The hall Of. Fame he
had one hundred and seven sacks and basically a five year.
(50:12):
Span his stats Are hall Of. Fame his personality kept him.
Speaker 3 (50:17):
Out it, appears, well didn't he quit the? GAME i
think he quit the?
Speaker 2 (50:24):
Sport was there were there steroid accusations that HE i
want to be fair to, him But i'm going off
memory With.
Speaker 6 (50:35):
I've got a couple of articles here that said he
retired a little. Early he was thirty two years. Old
not sure.
Speaker 3 (50:41):
Why, yeah, YEAH i Think walls may have been closing
in on.
Speaker 6 (50:45):
Him he had a three year run with twenty, sacks nineteen,
sacks twenty two.
Speaker 3 (50:50):
Sacks it's weird that he was viewed as, selfish like
your job is to get.
Speaker 2 (50:56):
Sacks but then it felt LIKE i always thought That
kleco was a better. PLAYER i just Thought Joe klecko
was sort of An Aaron donald type. Player But mark
benefited from that that everybody else was doing their, job
which Allowed mark to just go after the quarterback and he,
did and he did it in you, know charismatic. Style
(51:19):
but it just felt like he was viewed as it
was The jets and then it Was Mark. Gastineau whether
that's fair or, not but that was always the feeling
because they had other you, Know ken O'Brien was a
very quiet, guy That freeman.
Speaker 3 (51:33):
McNeil you, know.
Speaker 2 (51:34):
They had a really good roster and should have been. Better, Yes,
TON i wonder how
Speaker 7 (51:40):
MUCH i remember watching some of those games that his
teammates were a little tired of his act or got
them in situations where there was one time against The,
RAMS i guess like a fight broke out and they
were all going after, him and it didn't look like
The jets teammates were in any rush to pull THE
rams off of him from WHAT i, Saw, yeah
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
It's our one on this Wednesday, Dan and the Dan
Nets Dan Patrick Show, Our starting lineup, our Fab five
flab five Wait a second, not for long. Yeah, everybody's
gonna get in shape for the jacked Off contest that
we're going to have. Is there a deadline for this?
What's the timeframe? Is this starting now?
Speaker 3 (00:27):
And then?
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Is this maybe when we get to Notre Dame USC
or we go to Las Vegas.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
I think we're pushing the finish line to Las Vegas.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Okay, that would be in November.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
That would be November.
Speaker 5 (00:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Yeah, there's a Formula one race, and I thought, you
know what, let me get outside my comfort zone here
a little bit, not going to Vegas, but going to
Vegas and having Formula one. I thought, you know what,
let's be part of the beautiful people and maybe let's
try to do that. Got friends at Fountain Blue, it
took care of us at the Super Bowl, and thought,
you know what, maybe we go out there, maybe we
(01:02):
go out to Formula one, maybe we get dressed up.
Speaker 6 (01:07):
Yes, Polly, that was my concern. Do we have f
one clothing in our wardrobes? They dressed pretty smooth over there.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Yeah, I need one of those like Jesse Palmer, collarless
leather jackets. I feel like that just has like the
snap over here. He can wear that well.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Yes he can, Yeah, Marvin, I think can do style.
You start from the ground up. That's where fashion starts from.
Always from the ground up. You always have a great
shoe collection. I'm ready for Vegas, Okay, So I think
that's November and then October is Notre Dame USC. But
in the meantime, I don't know how we're going to
(01:48):
gauge who's in better shape or who lost weight or
body fat, whatever it is. All of a sudden, we
decided that everybody is going to get in shape.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Is that right? Yeah, Paul.
Speaker 6 (02:01):
The question over here is looking at us. Is three
months enough time to get jacked? Because that's about what
it is till three months, three months, two weeks.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Well, I think you and Seaton have a head start
because you guys have been.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Already pretty jacked.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Yes, of course, yes, yes, you guys have been pretty regimented.
Cutting down on alcohol. I don't know if you're watching
what you're eating, but you're cut down on alcohol. Marvin
has been working out, todd says he takes a walk
every day.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
I've been watching Marvin work out a very good job.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
All right, well we'll I'm not sure how we measure this.
That's the only thing of who would be the winner
of the jacked off contest?
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Here? Who is jacked Yes, marmon.
Speaker 7 (02:46):
Do we take before and after photos?
Speaker 5 (02:49):
No?
Speaker 6 (02:49):
No, like naked, look like Tom Brady at the combine?
Speaker 4 (02:53):
Yeah, combine photos in our underwear?
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Yes?
Speaker 8 (02:57):
All right?
Speaker 6 (03:02):
Can we get a month to get ready for the
free photo.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
Looking good?
Speaker 9 (03:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:08):
And then we'll get a sponsorship. We'll get it to
you know, somebody to M drive will sponsor this.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
We'll bring them back. Yeah, We'll get.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Some kind of fitness you know, health club that's going
to get involved in this.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
And that's Marvin.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Put the M and M drive.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Come on our drive, Marvin put the M and.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Alrighty, welcome to the program.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Yes, yes, Marvin.
Speaker 7 (03:35):
M drive on the way to F one okay, f
one okay, already damn give us.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Pandora if we go to Vegas.
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Pandora, who's outside of Reno has to come in and
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I'm going to get a maybe a piano, and then
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Speaker 3 (04:48):
Yes, Eton, there's.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
Almost a Sweeney Sisters quality to that song by Pandora.
Do you remember the Sweeney Sisters.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
I do not.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
It was a Saturday night live bit with Jane Curtin
and somebody else, and they were like like lounge singers
at the Poconos or something like that. You know, and uh,
there's a very famous Sweeney Sisters bit where Paul Simon
is sitting in the crowd and they start singing all
of these Simon and Garfunkel songs. Yeah, and it is hilarious.
(05:17):
Pandora's got some of those Sweeney Sisters qualities, guest un
Jan Hooks and Nora Dunne.
Speaker 8 (05:23):
That's very silly, awesome lounge at.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, welcome to the program. Already in
progress by the way, and uh, you know, we were wondering,
what is the lead story today? You do have training
campy and Rapaport of NFL Network will join us coming up,
Trey Hendrickson back with the Bengals but still unsigned, Baseball
trade deadline tomorrow. Otani's going to be pitching tonight. And
(05:49):
then we thought, well, you know, the real lead is
probably Liam Neeson and Pam Anderson are dating because they're
starting in the re of Naked Gun or is it
a I don't know, is it a remake of Naked
Gun or is it just an addition to the original
Naked Gun? When was the last Naked Gun with Leslie Nielsen?
(06:12):
And we've seen these separations here with Top Gun and
Maverick Happy Gilmore Happy Gilmore too, and Naked Gun.
Speaker 7 (06:21):
Yes, Marvin Thing was the Naked Gun thirty three and
the third Yes Anna Nicole Smith with the love interest.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Of Leslie Nielsen. I think, so, yeah, okay, yes, Paul.
Speaker 6 (06:31):
Is this Pamela Anderson Liam Neeson thing real? I saw
a couple of clips yesterday that they were getting chummy
and being fun during the press junket.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Sources, I think No. I don't have sources on it,
but I did see these clips. They were on the
Today Show, and I don't, you know, sometimes you act
lovey dovey, you know. I think Sydney Sweeney and Glenn
Powell did that. They were in a movie and they
were both in relationships, but they were very love They
were selling it and I don't know it fell of
(07:02):
them are in relationships anymore, though, I know, yeah, they
were selling it a little too well. I think Leslie
neil Or I think Liam Neeson and Pam Anderson seemed
like an item.
Speaker 9 (07:16):
There.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
There was a picture where Pam had her sons there
and Liam Neeson had his sons there, and they're both single,
and it just felt like there was there was something
going on, felt like there were some sparks going on there. Yes, unt,
I will hunt you down.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
I will find you, and I will take you out
to dinner.
Speaker 8 (07:36):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
That's how he got her.
Speaker 12 (07:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Do you think he did that taken voice?
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Yeah, Todd does that voice occasionally, just walks around nobody
in particular that he's speaking to, and then he'll do
his Leslie.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
I always say, Leslie, Liam Neeson, why don't we.
Speaker 8 (07:52):
Grab some coffee sometime, perhaps this evening.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
I will hunt you down and I will kill you
the chicken.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Yes, but good for every time you see Pam Anderson,
it feels like every picture says make up free Pam Anderson.
Speaker 9 (08:12):
Now.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
I saw her in the Last show Girl, and she
was really good in that movie.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
It's it's about a showgirl in Las Vegas and she's
getting old. They're gonna stop doing the showgirl performances. And
I thought she came off very well. I thought, you know,
you don't. I don't think you think Pam as a
great actress, But in this role, I thought she was
really good and good for her if she found love.
(08:43):
Wasn't she married to somebody for like forty eight hours?
Speaker 9 (08:48):
Some was it?
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Robert Evans, The movie executive. I think she went to
see Julian Assange. Is that his name.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
I think at the time he was known as the
luckiest man in the world for forty eight hours. Yes, yes,
but the Weekender I think they called it. Well, he
was gonna use the Weekender.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Yeah. You don't have to get married, Yeah yeah, just.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
Get married on a Friday, devo on a Monday.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Yeah, all right, Hey, no harm, no foul. Yeah, I
bet you just go out, you know what.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
It was fun while it lasted, and then that's it.
Speaker 6 (09:21):
Yes, Paul, I'm trying to find a hard news report,
no pun intended. Liam Neeson's seventy three years old, she's
fifty eight. I found nothing on NPR or BBC. But
I did find People magazine report.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
That's my bible.
Speaker 5 (09:34):
That's right.
Speaker 6 (09:34):
Pamela Anderson and Liam Neeson are dating. It's clear there's
smitten exclusive source to People.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
But then you had Martin Short and you had uh,
the great actress Selena Gomes No, no, not her, but she's.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
In that series. No, who's the greatest female on Eryl Street? Yes,
Meryl Street.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
Their getting that for it.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Well, I don't know if it's that. I don't know
that's the description. I think they're dating.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Like I think she got divorced and I think her
they met on only Murders in the building and they're
going out with each other. I believe they are going
out with each other. That's hot, although I read where
they're right now going through a rough patch.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
But all right, let it breathe a little bit, let's
get into it.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Yes, but yeah, I think uh Liam Neeson and Pam Anderson,
they're they're getting after it. Well, like I said, I
don't know what that means, or have you ever been smitten? God,
you strike me as you're smitten just about every night
when you watch local newscasts.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
Four a week, something I got just my eye gets
me sweat.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
And nobody watches more local news than Fritzy.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
Shout out to Rachel Frank, Fox sixty one News.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Thank you, Tod. All righty, So we're just getting started here,
and do we have a poll question to start seton?
Speaker 4 (10:57):
We do? I think we're doing that after the break.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
No, we need to dice.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
We need to digest some of the news that we've
just made.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Okay talking about here, Okay, all right, DraftKings just sent
me the nl MVP odds in the American League MVP odds,
and it's basically show Hayo tanis in both. It is
it show Heyotani over Pete crow Armstrong. But it's getting
(11:26):
interesting in the American League because cal Raley is not
that far behind Aaron Judge. When you know, with these
MVP onds right now, Aaron Judge is minus one sixty.
Cal Rawley is plus one thirty. So he's in the
rear view mirror of Aaron Judge right now, and Judge
is injured. Show Heyotani minus two thousand, Pete Crow Armstrong
(11:52):
plus thirteen hundred.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
That is a I would make room in my trophy case.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
If I'm Otani, I would say to my hun got
to make room for another one of these MVPs.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
That would give him four. I believe, yes, Pauline.
Speaker 6 (12:07):
And Otani's pitching a little bit more every week and
pitching well in his six appearances so far this year,
twelve innings but thirteen k's, three walks, only two earned runs.
He's pitching fantastic.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
But you can frame the box score July twenty nine
to twenty twenty five that Sho he O'tani looked human
because we all know he's extraordinary, he is the unicorn.
But last night against the Reds, he struck out four
consecutive times. Now he's struck out four times in a
game a couple of times in his career. More importantly,
(12:42):
the Dodgers won this but shoe Hey, Otani was a
mere mortal last night. Four consecutive strikeouts there, but they
did get the win. Trade deadline will come up tomorrow.
Lucas and Texas leads us off this morning. Hi, Luke,
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 9 (13:00):
Hey to and good morning.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Good morning.
Speaker 12 (13:03):
Very temporarily, Lucas and Kentucky are some work and then
tonight it's going to be Lucas and Cincinnati's. I'm going
to the Dodgers Reds game, excited for that. But I
just wanted to bring up two baseball things. I know
we're about to jump into football season full time. But
number one, looking at like the third market, our aftermarket
ticket sales, the Otani effect is so real. The difference
(13:25):
between tickets last night and today is more than double.
I mean, it's a real effect that he has, even
especially on the road.
Speaker 8 (13:33):
But the other thing, I know.
Speaker 12 (13:35):
There's been discussion about Rob Manfred and some of the
you know, the frank discussions that are having about the
future of the game. I do want to give credit
where credit is to. I've been to three different parts
this year, three different games in person, and if you
haven't over the last couple of years, the changes that
they've implemented with pitchclock, with time between innings has made
(13:56):
a noticeably better effect on the end game experience. It's
like actually at the stadium before you know it. You
look down at your watch in the eighth inning and
you're like, man, we've only been here for two hours.
It's a noticeably better effect and I wish more people
would see it. But got to give credit where credit
it is due.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Thank you, Lucas. Yeah, and I spoke about Rob Manfred
going into the Phillies locker room. I don't know the
full details. I know what was reported. I don't know
if something led up to the confrontation between the commissioner
and Bryce Harper. I just was disappointed that Bryce Harper
is using that language to the commissioner in front of everybody.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
And I'd like to know more.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
We've invited both on and because I know going in
there and talking about a salary cap the players don't
want to hear that. But I do give the commissioner
credit that at least he was meeting with people face
to face. But I don't think you need to say
get the f out of here if you're Bryce Harper.
Would Bryce Harper say that if it was just the
commissioner and Bryce Harper and they're meeting in his office
(15:02):
in New York City? Or how would the Bryce Harper
take it if he came to see the commissioner and
the commissioner said get the f out of here, It
wouldn't go well. But the commissioner his job is to
oversee the health of the game and moving it forward.
I think he's done a really good job in some areas,
a really good job. You know, he whiffed on the astros.
(15:26):
I don't like the let's start at second base and
the tenth inning. I don't like that, But there's some
other things that he's implemented that have helped the game.
His job is to grow the game. Sometimes you grow
the game and you're not making friends, or you're making
friends on one side and not the other side. And yes,
the commissioner does work for the owners, but Bryce Harper
(15:47):
to say it and the commissioner didn't back down. He
wanted to stay in there. But I'd like to know
a little bit more about it, because there's probably three
sides to this. But I was just surprise that give
the commissioner the respect for coming in there. You may
not like what he's gonna say, but you should still
(16:08):
respect him. All Right, we'll take a break. We'll come
up with our poll question. Got our play of the day.
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Hey u Tani struck out in each of his first
four plate appearances. Dodgers beat the Reds. That's the first
time he's done that in nine hundred and eighty one
games in Major League Baseball. He struck out four times
in a game six times in his career, including once
earlier this season. He will be pitching tonight against the
Cincinnati Reds. We uh were talking earlier before the show
(18:05):
started about the nickname. You know, sometimes you'll get a nickname.
Some players give themselves a nickname. Travis Hunter is called
the Unicorn. Now Chris tom Sportzingis was called the Unicorn.
We have different players, I think who have been called
the unicorn. And Travis Hunter was asked about the nickname.
Speaker 6 (18:27):
Travis, we got to come up with a nickname for
you us nobody does.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
What you do is the unicorn.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
It is unicorn.
Speaker 6 (18:35):
Dad, get it out there and get some posters and
stuff for.
Speaker 9 (18:38):
That kind of thing.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
Yeah, I'm I'm gonna ill see what I could do.
I like it.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
I like the Unicorn.
Speaker 9 (18:41):
I'm selling the machine though, because you play all those plays,
how many plays do you think you could play?
Speaker 14 (18:46):
Think you can play them all?
Speaker 8 (18:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (18:47):
I definitely think I could play them all. If I
didn't think I could play them all, won't be trying
to do it all.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Right, So he's been called the Unicorn.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
I think he was called that in college, and uh
now in Jacksonville his rookie year and words getting around
a little bit deeper in NFL circles of being called
the unicorn. I don't know how much he's going to
play on offense this year, but if you look at
last season when he won the Heisman Trophy, he was
(19:15):
part of almost eighty seven percent of the offensive plays
and he was part of eighty three percent of the
defensive plays. If I'm going to look at what will
be the percentages in the NFL probably start out eighty twenty,
(19:37):
eighty percent, twenty percent. How do you use him? Can
you bring him in as a decoy? How much do
you want to have him playing defense? Then do you
wait till third down for offense? Now he is young,
so I'm guessing that he knows what he's capable of doing.
This is just a question of if you have a
new head coach and Liam Liam Cohen, and how much
(20:00):
do you want to use him? You need him, You
definitely need him, and you start to wonder how much
can you use him? This is that you know, rookies
talk about hitting the wall in all sports. Where you go, boy,
this is a long season. And it is because you know,
the game is more demanding than college. Now, college they're
(20:21):
playing fourteen, fifteen games if you include the bowl game.
Now you have a seventeen game schedule, and maybe you
go into the postseason, maybe you add a couple more
games there. But they'll they'll talk about hitting the wall,
and I think that would be the one thing that
I would caution it and the Jags on is how
can I keep him? I need him fresh and ready
to go late in the season. We don't need to
(20:43):
do it to get attention here. We can build on this.
Let's see how well he plays, Let's see how well
he plays defensively, and then we can bring him over offensively.
I just I don't want him splitting and I don't
want him being good at both. I would like for
him to be great at one of them, and then
if he's really good at the other one or good
(21:05):
at the other one, you know that that's going to
be an unbelievable start to his career. I'm surprised there
there hasn't been that much fanfare. And granted he plays
for Jacksonville, but Shador Sanders. The attention for Shadoor Dwarfs
Travis Hunter. Cleveland passed on Travis Hunter in speaking of
(21:26):
the Cleveland Browns. Jimmy Haslam is the owner of the Browns,
and he was asked who made the call draft night
to take Shador Sanders.
Speaker 8 (21:37):
We have good.
Speaker 10 (21:37):
Process, okay, And if you just told me Friday night
driving home, y'all are going to pick Shador, I would
say that that's not happening. But we had a conversation
early that morning, and then we had a conversation later
that day. I think we had the right people involved
in the conversation at the end of the day.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
That's Andrew Berry's call. Andrew made the call to pick Shador, Okay.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Now it felt I thought too when I heard that
if this goes south, you know who to blame. But
also maybe Jimmy Haslam is finally doing the right thing.
That you're not a smart football guy. Did you make
the call on Deshaun Watson? And if you did, that's
why you should turn it over to your football people
(22:19):
because you gave him a completely guaranteed contract there.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
But this is on Andrew Berry, your GM. He made
the call with Shadoor Sanders.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Now I was told differently, But the owner is telling
you because I think that there was a phone call
or two made without getting too specific about this, to
nudge Jimmy Haslam to take Shador Sanders, and I think
that's what happened. But and look, if they get one
(22:53):
of these courts, nobody's talking about Dylan Gabriel and he
was taken before Shadoor Sanders and had a decorated college
career here, far more decorated than Shaudor. But you know,
there's the possibility that shud Or Sanders could be the
quarterback for them. I don't think if you emerge as
the starting quarterback, it's Kenny Pickett, it's a forty year
(23:15):
old Joe Flacco, and Dylan Gabriel. I mean, it's not
exactly Marino and Elway and Jim Kelly. But you know,
it feels like Shaudor Sanders has some obstacles in front
of him that his name helped him, but his name
is hurting him a little bit because we're like, Okay,
let's see how great you are, and we saw how
(23:37):
far he slipped. But the only thing I can go
on is my source told me that he's acted mature.
Aside from the speeding tickets that when he's he's on
the football field, he's business. It's it's not there's no
sense of entitlement. I don't know what that means. I
don't know how that translates to can you play on Sunday?
Speaker 9 (23:59):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
And when people say, well, you got the Sanders name,
he's not an athlete like his dad. He's just not.
He's a drop back, pocket passer. He's not going to
beat you with his legs. I'm told that he is
more athletic than people are giving him credit for. I said, well,
the problem is his dad is one of the great
athletes who's ever played the game. But by all accounts,
(24:24):
it feels like he is ingratiating himself to his teammates.
And that's really important. But I just want to know,
can you play on Sunday?
Speaker 3 (24:32):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
And it still feels like Joe Flacco is going to
be a starting quarterback for the Cleveland Browns, Like that's
the safe pick, that's where I would go because we're
talking about cam Ward. Is cam Ward going to be
ready for the Titans? He has to be, but Shador
doesn't have to be ready or Dylan Gabriel, Kenny Pickett's
battling an injury, but it might be Joe Flacco, and
(24:56):
Joe Flacco might give you a better chance of winning
because you get all that experience. I mean, he's a
pocket passer as well. And I'm not sure if they
have a game plan. Great, because they have two first
round picks next year. I want to know how much
time they'll give Dylan Gabriel and Shador Sanders to see
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if they can actually play starting quarterback in the NFL.
Because if you remember, Colin Cowherd had the speculation, I
can't say it's a report that the Browns would maybe
bring in Nick Saban and then draft arch Manning. Well,
Jimmy Haslam, the Browns owner, was talking about arch Manning.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Well, Tony, you know, you're.
Speaker 10 (25:42):
In the business and you get paid by how many
hits you get, Okay, And I think if you know
the Manning family, I would bet that.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
And I don't know Arts at all.
Speaker 10 (25:48):
Okay, I bet he stays in college two years, So
I don't even think that's worth discussing.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Okay, that's the way I feel. Arch Manning is going
to play two more years.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
That it's not so Nick Saban's going to wait two
more years for arch Manning and then you've got to
make sure you draft him. It just seemed, you know,
like a long shot that any of those possibilities could happen,
you know, and maybe maybe Shoud or Sanders or Dylan
Gabriel is his starting quarterback and you could turn your
(26:20):
attention to somebody else. I don't think the Browns are
going to be that good. I think the over under
might be five wins, five and a half wins. I
think the team to keep an eye on being bad.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
The Giants.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Feels like the Giant season hinges on Malik Neighbors staying healthy,
and then there was a report yesterday where he got
banged up a little bit. You can't lose him because
they got a tough schedule. You're in that division and
you've got three quarterbacks, two quarterbacks. You know, Jackson Dart
is he going to play? You got Russell Wilson, Jameis Winston.
(26:57):
It just feels like, and look at their schedule when
you pull up their schedule, PAULI, because the Giants could
be like one in eight, maybe you know, one in seven,
something like two and seven to start out, because it's
pretty tough sledding for the Giants right out of the gate.
Speaker 6 (27:15):
Yeah, the Giants are at the Commander's at Dallas, host
the Chiefs, hosted, Chargers at the Saints. Little break than Eagles, Broncos, Eagles, Niners.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Yeah, all better teams. It's pretty tough.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
You could know where the Giants stand after around nine games,
and it feels like it's make or break for that coach.
Maybe the front office there what happened with Saquon Barkley?
You get you know, you take Jackson Dart? Is he
going to play this year? Are they even going to
be around to help develop him? But that schedule is
pretty tough. I think it's one of the top five
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toughest schedules in the NFL. Yes, Paully and Elik neighbors
for the Giants last year. One of the most targeted
rookies in NFL history. He started thirteen games, one hundred
and seventy targets. He caught one hundred and nine balls
for seven touchdowns. He's a great player, great player, But
is Rusher starting quarterback? And how long till Jackson Dart?
(28:18):
Do you wait until maybe the season is a wash
and then you bring in Jackson Dart and then you
start to see what you have to build for the
future because it feels like the Giants could be the
worst team in the NFL. They're at least in the conversation,
and that's not a conversation you want to be involved
(28:38):
in yet, Paul, going back.
Speaker 6 (28:39):
To Cleveland, Shandor Sanders started fifty games in college. Dylan
Gabriel started sixty four games in college. He played six
college seasons.
Speaker 9 (28:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Yeah, those guys with the COVID years, you know, they
put up, you know, big numbers as far as starts,
and that's you know, that's a great sample size. But
I haven't heard much about Dylan Gabriel. But part of
that is he might be performing better than Shadover Sanders,
but Shadover Sanders is going to get the coverage so
much so he's getting more coverage than Travis Hunter, who
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is going to be a legitimate maybe every down player, incredible,
and the unicorn. He wants to be called the unicorn.
I'm fine, good, good, you know, yeah, Pauling.
Speaker 6 (29:25):
We're working on some how about the hybrid you get
a car deal. I don't think anyone's been called the hybrid. Okay,
covers both things.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Okay, Todd, you got any nickname suggestions?
Speaker 5 (29:39):
Hey, don't have anything great yet, but I'll continue to
think about it. Okay, I don't want to force it.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Oh, you don't wait till later. I'm going to guess
in the next ten minutes, you'll probably have some realis.
Speaker 9 (29:52):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Yeah, yes, I'm good to guess.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Alan Hershey, Pennsylvania High Al. What's on your mind today?
Speaker 9 (30:01):
Hey?
Speaker 3 (30:02):
How Glenn in San Diego? Hi, Glenn, what's on your
mind today?
Speaker 9 (30:10):
Damn? Thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
How are you guys doing great?
Speaker 8 (30:13):
Glenn?
Speaker 9 (30:14):
Hey, listen, I just had a suggestion and a request.
I'm going to give you the request first, so I
don't choke on this. The Harbor mannequin, can't we upgrade
him to charger gear this year? Because I really believe
we're going to go to the AFC Championship. Unfortunately to
lose to the Bills, but we are going places this year.
Speaker 8 (30:30):
And I think you guys should.
Speaker 9 (30:31):
Use Jacklink Sausages your sponsor for the jack Off, because,
rather you realize it or not, this Jackof's going to
be huge.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
All right, Well, thank you, thank you, Glenn.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
We appreciate that if the Chargers go to the AFC
title game, then we'll change the Jim Harball Michigan Mannequin,
Michigan man.
Speaker 8 (30:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Do you think we're safe keeping the Jim Harball Michigan Mannequin?
Oh for sure.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Really the Chargers AFC title game. Okay, I'm not mining in.
I can't do it anymore. I did it too long,
too many years.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
I can't do it.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Even if they get there, I'd be like, great, it's
just like Arizona basketball. If they make the Final four,
then I'll go Okay, hey, I'll eat my words here.
Speaker 6 (31:14):
Yes, I think you're making a horrible mistake. You've been
on the Chargers since I've known you, and they were
eleven and six. Last year they added a great running
two great running backs. Harball always wins. They went from
five to twelve to eleven and six with the.
Speaker 5 (31:28):
Same basic roster. I know I am all in on the.
Speaker 11 (31:31):
All in, all in, all in, all in, all in,
But what's that mean I would be here's the bet
for you.
Speaker 8 (31:42):
I'll bet that they.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
Win a playoff game. Okay, all in.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Ish ish, that's not AFC title game.
Speaker 5 (31:51):
Let me let me consider it one.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Okay, Look, Carball has a formula. I mean that he
knows what the recipe is. No matter where he is,
he tries to incorporate the same recipe. They're a running
team defense and Justin Herbert, we need you to be magical.
You don't have to be Superman. You can be Clark Kent.
(32:14):
This is what Daniel Jeremiah, this former scout said yesterday
on the show. You can be Clark Kent, but occasionally
be Superman. That's all you need. I think he joins
us on the program tomorrow. Justin Herbert right Ton, correct,
thank you, Tod.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Yes, Paul.
Speaker 6 (32:27):
Chargers outscored their opponents last year by one hundred and
one points. The Chiefs outscored their opponents by fifty nine.
Just to give all a comparison. They won their last three.
The Chargers are.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
Poised, but then they had the playoff game that always
gets in the way from it.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Yeah, it does at damn playoff.
Speaker 6 (32:46):
If they could jump from Week seventeen to the Super Bowl, Yes,
is Philip Rivers going to join us, Tod, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (32:51):
It's a big Chargers date.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Tomahow Okay, all in, let's get Ladanian, Tomlinson and Dan Founce.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
I would round it up yeah. Atron means come on,
Oh Chuck Munsey, Oh the glass, Chuck Munsey with the glasses.
Stan Humphreys, come on.
Speaker 5 (33:09):
Okay, live a little train. James and Deep.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Ron Yary former number one overall pick I think great, Lineman,
how about we take break?
Speaker 1 (33:19):
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Speaker 2 (33:31):
He's headed to Broncos camp and then he goes to
the Patriots and the Bills. NFL Networks Inside training Camp
airs daily through August sixth, and Ian joins us, Now,
when's the last time you visited a camp and you
got either one of those oh my gosh positive or
oh my gosh negative feeling. Uh.
Speaker 8 (33:53):
I've had some. I've had some overly positive ones, I think,
you know, especially for some of the places that have
like really struggled the last couple of years. Like, you know,
I was just at the Chiefs and it looks I mean,
the practice was so good. It was tough and tense,
but it was so good, and mahomes looked awesome. But
you're sort of like, all right, like that's what you expect.
(34:13):
It was like a good reminder of why the Chiefs
are in the Super Bowl basically every year. But then
you go a couple other places and you can be like,
all right, I can see if they're gonna have a
big turnaround, Like why Like I was at the Titans
and you see Cam Moore, you watch him throw a
little bit, you gain an understanding for why teammates and
(34:34):
coaches love him to work as and all that stuff,
and I left there being like, I don't know how
many times they're gonna win this year, Like maybe it's
like six or seven, I don't know, but I can
really see how the rebuild would start now. And so
like that's sort of what you get, you know, rather
than like, all right, this team's gonna win the super
Bowl because like the really good teams, they kind of
(34:56):
look just normal to you.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
You know, what do you think of the Bronco that
they felt like they surprised people? And I know you're
just going there now, But now we expect Bonicks to
be a playoff caliber quarterback. We know Sean Payton's all
Hall of Fame coach, but the expectation level, like the
Commanders as well, that second year.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
We saw this with the Texans.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
You know, what is it you feel like when you
think of the Broncos going into what can is considered
like the second year of this turnaround.
Speaker 8 (35:28):
Yeah, I mean it's definitely going to get harder. Schedule
will get harder, expectations will get more. I think people
know what to expect a bon Nicks now. I think
last year I would be in that list of like,
is Bonnicks going to be a franchise starting quarterback in
the NFL? Like I really wasn't sure. I really didn't know.
(35:49):
You watch him enough last year. You watch, like, for instance,
of plays he made in that Bengals game late, and
this guy looks legit. And so the Broncos had no
business winning that many games last year. They really didn't.
Like I thought it would be kind of like a
transition yeer like six or seven, and they were really
good and they didn't even have the personnel close to
(36:11):
being as good as they as the record once. And
so this year, you know, another year in the draft,
another year of development, some key free agents like you
know Lufanga and green Law Booth like love both of those.
They should be good, Like I know, the expectations are more,
but they should be more ready as an organization to
be good and like it was a good reminder for
(36:33):
me and I guess for everyone. Sean Payton is a very,
very excellent head coach.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
I'm wondering about the trend.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
The NFL is a copycat league, and is the trend
going with younger coaches?
Speaker 3 (36:48):
You know, you do have Pete Carroll.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
I think there's always the possibility of Belichick or if
Nick Saban wants to get back in it. But is
the trend now with that younger guy offensive minded or
you know, even in Aaron Glenn's situation, defensive minded.
Speaker 8 (37:05):
Yeah, I mean that's kind of what it feels like,
or at least let me say this. If you have
a young guy that's really good, you don't hear anymore like,
well he hasn't paid his dues or is he ready?
It feels more like actually kind of like the players
are treated or it's like, if you're talented enough, start
(37:26):
to make mistakes and everyone will be okay with it
because learning while doing it is better than not having
that talent on the field, you know what I mean. So, like,
you know, there's gonna be some young coaches who like
Liam Cohen is a great example, right, Like he's really smart,
he's really talented. I was in Jacksonville. He sounds like
he has a really good vision for what he wants
(37:47):
it to look like and how hard it needs to be.
And he has been trained by Sean mcvain, Todd Bowles
to guys who have done it consistently, like they should
be better this year, but like it's not gonna be
perfect because he's a young coach who hasn't done it.
So I think teams are more willing to roll with
some of the growing pains and like it's not just
(38:08):
you know, it's not just head coaches, right, like the
aufititive court name or of the coordinator named Grant Yudinsky,
who's like in his late twenties I think and is
already in oc and ten years ago would never be
but he's talented enough where it's like, you know what,
let's just do it.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Talking to Ian Rappaport, NFL Network Insider, part of NFL
Networks Inside Training Camp airs daily through August sixth, John
Gruden put out something where he says something about he's
on the verge of doing something coming back. I don't
know if you saw that. Is there a future for
(38:47):
John Gruden to come back in the NFL in your opinion?
Speaker 8 (38:53):
You know, there's still some some legal issues that need
to be worked through now, like if somebody wants to
hire him. My sense is if there would be things
where everybody could get together on the legal side and
figure it out and either compromise or just settle it,
handle it whatever. Like perhaps, you know, I'm sure there's
(39:15):
some interest. I haven't heard any team particularly trying to
hire him as a head coach. I did know there
were some teams that thought about hiring him as a coordinator, which, like,
how would you you know, would be hard to have
a better hire than that as a coordinator. I would
say to me, as someone who likes football content as
(39:39):
much as football, I kind of like him where he is.
To be honest, that's just like selfish. He's he's he's
in a great spot. I mean, I think it's his
stuff is really good. But I wouldn't rule it out.
I really wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
The hold ins Trey hendrickson coming back to the Bengals
means what to you.
Speaker 11 (40:01):
It means.
Speaker 8 (40:03):
I wouldn't say they're closer to a deal, but it's
harder to not do a deal if that makes sense,
Like he's there. And this is why I always feel
just sort of like personal preference that hold ins are
more effective than holdouts. Holdouts to me, like I wouldn't
want to get fined and give away a bunch of
money like that wouldn't be my move. But hold ends
(40:26):
are tough because you see them every day. The fans
see them every day at training camp. You know, do
you know how good Tree Henderson is, You know how
good Terry McLaurin is. So if you're a coach, you're
constantly looking at them like, hey, if that guy was
on the field, like we would be a lot better.
(40:46):
And so, you know, sometimes that can push a deal.
I thought it was, you know, the right move for
both of those guys to come in and ramp up
the pressure, and I think there's a deal to be
made for both of those players, just you know, you
hope it sooner rather than later.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
And then the Micah Parsons situation as well, I just
feels like all of these deals get done. I know,
we get excited, we're hungry for any content this time
of the year, but I just why do we wait.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
Why do owners wait?
Speaker 8 (41:18):
I don't. I don't want to say it's owners waiting.
I think for Micah Parsons, everybody seems to be waiting.
You know. I've always thought that Micah would be should
be the highest paid, like highest paid non quarterback in
the NFL the whole season. And so if that's the case,
he's got to go last. And he is very smart
(41:40):
and very savvy and business wise, you know, probably as
well versed as anyone his age and so, and his agent,
David Ullagetta, is very good at educating clients so they
know if you go last, you are the most. And
so my sense is he was going to be last.
I don't know if it's going to be like scrambling
(42:02):
around before kickoff like with Dak a couple of years
ago or last year whenever that was. But my sense
is it's last. And like Aiden Hutchinson, you know, is
in talks for a new deal with the Lines, Maybe
that happens and then then Micah goes.
Speaker 3 (42:18):
Better run organization. The Chiefs are the Eagles.
Speaker 8 (42:25):
Similar better run I don't know. I mean, the Chiefs
have been doing it for longer, but the Eagles have
done such an unbelievable job of Like it's a good
mix of keeping veterans that you want to keep and
then letting the guys you you're okay letting go go
and just replacing them in the draft. Both of those
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guys do an awesome job of drafting players and not
needing them to play so they can learn the right way.
I don't know who's better, but this is kind of
where you want to get to, right, Like, you know,
I don't I don't records or predictions or whatever, but
I don't really know anyone who doesn't believe both of
(43:06):
those teams are going to have double digit wins this year,
next year, the year after. Like that's just what it's like.
And you know, that's an unbelievable reality, it really is.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
We go to the other end of the rainbow.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
The Browns owner Jimmy Haslam came out and said, this
draft selection of Shadoor Sanders is on his GM Andrew Berry.
What did you make of that comment by the owner?
Speaker 8 (43:33):
So I understand it, and it is right, Like I
know that this was Andrew Berry's pick. I know it
was in consultation with his football people as coaches, his
personnel staff, and then you know the Browns. I mean,
it sounds strange to say for because of the record,
but they really are a very well run franchise despite
having a quarterback Albatross and Sean Watson in that contract,
(43:55):
in that situation and all that, they really do it
the right way. In the right way is your football.
People make the decisions, the owner empowers them and gives
the okay, and then you move forward. There's two things
that I didn't love about that whole situation. I think
one is the quote is being a little bit taken
out of context, as in like it's Andrew Berry's blame,
(44:17):
like he's the GM, like they're all his picks. So
I thought it was fine. I just feels like people
are missing the context. The other thing is Chador might
be good, Like I have no idea and I'm going
to go there in a couple of days, but we're
not going to know this year. We may not know
next year. So I don't really understand what it feels
like people are blaming Andrew Berry like there is a
(44:39):
chance and it's you know, non zero percent that Shador
Sanders is the franchise quarterback for the Browns and it's
one of the best picks they ever made in franchise history.
That is an absolute possibility. He is very talented, So
you know, yes it was the GM's pick, but we
don't know how it's going to go.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
Yeah, I think the one thing I wonder about, if
it's Dylan Gay or Shador Sanders, is how much of
a runway the Browns will give them with two first
round picks next year. And if you know that, you
got to fight that urge of do we see enough
with Shadoor or Dylan Gabriel to go let's give them
another year, or do you go all in with the
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two first round picks and try to get you your
franchise quarterback.
Speaker 8 (45:23):
That is a that is the biggest of all the
things for the Browns this year. And I know they're
trying to win, and like the actual roster's pretty good.
I think Placco, if he starts, could be totally fine.
But that's the issue. And like I've thought about it
a ton, because like you're on the road alone, all
you do is thick about these door key football things, right,
I don't it's gonna be hard because like let's say
(45:44):
it's a struggle and let's say they're kind of not ready.
All the fans are going to care about all the
talk radio and reporters, and Cleveland is a very intense
media environment. All anyone's gonna care about is Blake community,
the young guys, and it might be it might be
Dylan Gabriel. There's a lot of people in the draft
who said if Dyan Gabriel was six' to, two he'd
be an early, pick which you, know shout out to short.
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GUYS i rootra all of. THEM i JUST i don't
know how you avoid that. Temptation but that's the story
of their.
Speaker 2 (46:16):
Season to, me when's the last time you had a
player get in your face over something you reported or?
Speaker 8 (46:21):
Said it? Does it almost never happens BECAUSE i guess
had you know a player sort of make a snide,
comment like maybe once every five, years but you can
never tell if they're. Joking WHAT i try to do
is BEFORE i do, ANYTHING i have the, conversation like
(46:45):
even though it's really FAST pasd like a lot of,
times you know you sort of know what you're going
to hit send on before you do. It SO i
try to get to the agent or player or THE
gm or THE pr guy and just be, like here's
WHAT i, have just to have the conversation before it goes.
Public so LIKE i used, to you, know first seven
(47:06):
or eight years doing, this it used to happen all the.
Time now it almost never happens because at least people
know what to expect WHEN i say it ON tv
or WHEN i hit send on a.
Speaker 3 (47:15):
Tweet great to catch up with, You, ian safe. Travels
thanks for joining.
Speaker 8 (47:19):
US i got thirty nine on a three point nine
more miles so this this timing was. Perfect Thanks.
Speaker 2 (47:25):
Dan all, Right that'sie And RAPPAPORT Nfl Network, INSIDER Nfl
networks inside training camp airs every day Through august.
Speaker 3 (47:34):
Sixth.
Speaker 2 (47:34):
Oh he's been to The, Bucks, Jags, Titans, Saints, Bears,
chiefs and he's got The patriots and The bills coming.
Speaker 3 (47:42):
Up you can be in camp.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
Now WHEN i worked In New york AT, cnn AND
i would go out to The jets camp and The giants,
camps and you could get a sense it was. Weird
it shouldn't be something that's, tangible but like it it felt.
Different you, know The giants were onto something with. Parcels,
now The jets did have. Talent The jets had the sack.
(48:06):
Exchange you, know they they but it felt different. There
it felt like The giants were. Professional they knew what
their roles. Were and you Had belichick or you Had
Bill parcells And belichick as your defensive. Coordinator it felt
like they knew that they were going to do something
big or bigger or.
Speaker 3 (48:26):
Special The jets were just a fascinating group of.
Speaker 2 (48:30):
Personalities you Had Mark gastineaux, There Joe, klecko one of
my favorite, Players ken, O'Brien and you just you Al.
Tuon you had talent, there but it's it was just
a different. Feeling it's almost like The yankees and The,
mets where you can have, talent but they just don't
(48:52):
feel like they're the same or the same run. Organization
but being Around Mark gastoneau Of Rolls, royce he was
Dating Brigitte, nielsen who was did she Marry Sylvester stallone
or were? THEY i think so they, Dated oh my,
gosh and it was it was a big. Deal like
(49:15):
but he was just not liked by his teammates because
even WHEN i would go out there and you, Know Marty,
Lyons Joe, klecko it was At Abdul salaam like these
guys knew that you're kind of out there for gast to.
Speaker 3 (49:29):
Know like they they were like here for gas to.
Speaker 2 (49:32):
Know AND i, go, well you know kind of because
he was a big deal and uh but, yeah just
to sit down with, him and he had bigger, aspirations you,
know it felt like he wanted to be this is Before,
schwarzenegger you, know one of those action heroes that that's
what he was hoping.
Speaker 3 (49:50):
For, yeah.
Speaker 6 (49:51):
BALLING i went back to double check And Mark gasno
has not made The hall Of. Fame and you talked
about likability hurting someone's case or behavior after your care
but he had a five year. Run he was four
time first Team All pro four years in a. Row
that's hard not to make The hall Of. Fame he
had one hundred and seven sacks and basically a five year.
(50:12):
Span his stats Are hall Of. Fame his personality kept him.
Speaker 3 (50:17):
Out it, appears, well didn't he quit the? GAME i
think he quit the?
Speaker 2 (50:24):
Sport was there were there steroid accusations that HE i
want to be fair to, him But i'm going off
memory With.
Speaker 6 (50:35):
I've got a couple of articles here that said he
retired a little. Early he was thirty two years. Old
not sure.
Speaker 3 (50:41):
Why, yeah, YEAH i Think walls may have been closing
in on.
Speaker 6 (50:45):
Him he had a three year run with twenty, sacks nineteen,
sacks twenty two.
Speaker 3 (50:50):
Sacks it's weird that he was viewed as, selfish like
your job is to get.
Speaker 2 (50:56):
Sacks but then it felt LIKE i always thought That
kleco was a better. PLAYER i just Thought Joe klecko
was sort of An Aaron donald type. Player But mark
benefited from that that everybody else was doing their, job
which Allowed mark to just go after the quarterback and he,
did and he did it in you, know charismatic. Style
(51:19):
but it just felt like he was viewed as it
was The jets and then it Was Mark. Gastineau whether
that's fair or, not but that was always the feeling
because they had other you, Know ken O'Brien was a
very quiet, guy That freeman.
Speaker 3 (51:33):
McNeil you, know.
Speaker 2 (51:34):
They had a really good roster and should have been. Better, Yes,
TON i wonder how
Speaker 7 (51:40):
MUCH i remember watching some of those games that his
teammates were a little tired of his act or got
them in situations where there was one time against The,
RAMS i guess like a fight broke out and they
were all going after, him and it didn't look like
The jets teammates were in any rush to pull THE
rams off of him from WHAT i, Saw, yeah
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