August 4, 2025 • 46 mins
On today's Dan Patrick Show, DP reacts to Micah Parsons' trade request. ESPN NFL Nation Cowboys Reporter Todd Archer breaks down how talks got to this point with Parsons' contract and previews what the coming weeks could look like. Newly elected Pro Football Hall of Famer Brent Musburger describes what election weekend was like and reflects on getting into a fight with Jimmy the Greek.
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Coming up, all right, a few things now.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
It got serious on Friday with Micah Parsons, because up
until this point I just thought it was a chess game.
And Jerry's done this before. But always remember this if
you're a Cowboy fan. Jerry doesn't lose anybody that he
wants to keep. If he wants to keep Michael Parsons,
he'll keep Michah Parsons. What happened is Michael parsons agent
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got involved in this. Jerry likes to talk to the
player and let's work this out. And normally the player
does pretty well with Jerry Jones. But in this situation,
Michael Parsons has requested a trade. Here is Jerry Jones
on the message that he's sending to Cowboy fans.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
As always, in any relationships or different moods at different
times of your relationship, that's what it is. And don't
lose in sleepover. So just evens one thing I would
say to our fan, don't lose in sleepover.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Just to be clear, you don't feel the relationship has
changed at all from the Super Bowl Big twelve.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Again, I know my attitude, and my attitude is the
same one I've had. I think the world of Micah.
He's an outstanding player. He can really help us, but
he's got to fit in with what's in the best
interest of the team. And that's what the negotiation is
all about.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
And it's not just about money. It's about trust, and
the trust is wearing thin. You have Jerry and his son.
They walked the type rope before, but this feels a
little bit different than Ceedee Lamb or Dak Prescott. Parsons
isn't just another disgruntled player. He's a foundational piece. When
you think of the defense. He's one of the top
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two three four players on defense in the NFL. And
not every trade request ends in departure. But you know,
the tension is there, and I always wonder about the
relationship that, yes, you can kind of tamp that down
a little bit, you can bury it a little bit,
but it's still there. Now if Jerry really wanted to
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play in toy with Michah Parsons. You know, you can
franchise tag him for a couple of years if you
wanted to. It feels like Jerry has gotten what he wanted.
You know, keep this in mind of when he bought
the team, he got the three Super Bowls. Now it
just feels like he loves being in the spotlight. The
Cowboys are going to lead every show, Michah Parsons, They're
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going to talk about the Cowboys. He does subscribe to
any publicity is good publicity?
Speaker 5 (03:45):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
But he's a brilliant businessman and the Cowboys are worth
ten billion dollars.
Speaker 5 (03:50):
The number of.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Analysts who have in the last year or maybe a
year and a half said this is about publicity. If
Jerry didn't have those three soupers, I wonder what his
approach would be as an owner. Because he's got three,
and he's a Hall of Famer and he's a billionaire.
I think he craves the attention. I think he loves
the attention. They haven't won anything. Now, They've flirted with
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some good seasons that end up, you know, and you
know it's a crash a thud, But I just wonder
about Jerry when it comes to having a microphone in
his face, cameras in his face, everybody waiting to talk
to you, waiting to see what you say, and sometimes
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the I don't Maybe lack of urgency has always concerned me.
Here you're probably the third best team in your own division.
I just don't think you can play games like this.
I think get a contract done and move on. Get
a contract. If you truly want to keep Micah Parsons
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and c d Lamb and Dak Prescott, then get the
job done. Get it done, because if you're going to wait,
every time you've waited, it's cost you more money and
you need to have a full roster. You're top heavy
with Micah and Dak and Ceedee Lamb. But this is
your goal when you draft them. Your goal is I
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hope he's one of the greatest defensive players and he's
here for a long time. Well, he's one of the
greatest defensive players, but now you're making him rethink if
he wants to be here. Ceedee Lamb. I hope he
becomes one of the best receivers in the game. He
has Now Dak Prescott, you can say, oh, you know what,
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if he proves to be a starter and he's consistent, man,
that'll be great. We found a diamond in the rough. Okay,
you got him, you signed him, you paid him more
than you needed to. But that's your guy. He can
be loyal. But then you're not quite sure why he
gets some deals done and then doesn't get Michaeh. Parsons
done when you could have. And I go back to
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April when before the draft. Now, all of a sudden,
you got everybody who can be involved in this. I
don't want to wait till August if I'm gonna play
a game and say, all right, you know, maybe, well
we'll trade him if we have to. He doesn't want
to be here, we'll trade him in April. Everybody can
be involved in this. If you truly aren't all in
on Micah Parsons, that's when we should have been discussing this,
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not now, because it still feels like Jerry he's going
to get this done at some point. It might be
in three weeks, it might be on you know, the Sunday,
you know when they open up, what is it a month?
A month from today the Cowboys open up, right, So
is that what his I mean, we headed towards that
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kind of deadline finish line with Jerry. It just it
feels like he loves Craves, needs that attention, and he's
gotten it. But if he didn't have those three Super Bowls,
I wonder if his approach would be a whole lot different.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
All Right, See let's poll question today. Is Dallas a
good place to play?
Speaker 6 (07:05):
Yes or no?
Speaker 2 (07:07):
You don't want to lose that address Like you're a cowboy.
It's different. If Dak played for Jacksonville, no one would
care Ceedee Lamb. If he was in Cleveland, we'd be like,
that guy's pretty good. Micah Parsons, he would be different
because Michael Parsons would still be a force no matter
where he is. But being a cowboy, it means something
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more than any other franchise, as loyal as Green Bay is,
as Pittsburgh is, you know, the old Raiders. There's something
about being a Dallas cowboy everything that goes with that.
You get clicks, you get headlines, you get publicity, you
get endorsements. You're a cowboy if you can put up
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with that. From the standpoint of everything you do is
under a magnifying glass. You know, I saw Dak Prescott's
building a mansion and I saw the early stages of that,
or a gender reveal with his wife or girlfriend gets
all there. You know, you got Troy Aikman who something said,
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you know Troy that you know he talks about the cowboys.
It's going to be put there on the front page.
Tony Romo, I mean they got jobs, they're cowboys. Jason
Garrett got a job, Jason Witten got a job. So
you you do have I mean it means something. It's
like being a Laker, kind of like being a Dodger
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or a Yankee, but to a lesser degree. But you know,
you have that address and if you can, if you
can put up with everything that goes along with that,
it's a great place to play.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Yes, se right, But there's the address and then there's
everything that comes with the address, and one of those
things is not rings. What you get is you're overrated
because you're a cowboy. You get constant abuse from cowboy fans.
We could just look at Shae for that. There's these
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unbelievable expectations of greatness despite no real recent track history
of being able to accomplish that. It feels like that
address is maybe a little delusional right now about what
that address means.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
I think it's absolutely delusional because it's been thirty years. Correct,
No team in any sport in the United States has
gotten more publicity for doing less than Dallas. But Dallas
gets more publicity than anybody. And you're living off those
fumes of a different generation with the triplets there and
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Jerry is built out, build up this house.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
Credit that.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Hey, he still means something. What the Cowboys mean, but
they don't mean anything thing if you think about it,
like they're just a curiosity, that's all. I got a
what's the over? Under seven and a half maybe eight
and a half at the most. Maybe they make the
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playoffs this year. It all goes well. Here's another thing
that's kind of lost in this, in my opinion, you
have Brian Schottenheimer, who was a first time head coach.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
It's already tough enough to coach the Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Now we're going to, you know, give you a degree
of difficulty here, and he's trying to establish a culture here.
What's hard to do that when your best player is
right over there and he's not practicing. You got a
quarterback who's injury prone, and you paid him all that money.
You got Pickens, who's going to eventually want a contract too. Like,
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there's a lot of things involved in this. You know,
they do some things really really well, and then there
are other things where you go and this is where
the attention to detail I think has cost them greatly.
And as somebody with the Players Association said to me
last weekend, if you wait many how many months with
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Michael Parson, if you know that you love Michael Parsons,
then it's like when you say, you know, I don't
want to get married, but I'm going to stay engaged,
And then the next year we're still engaged, but I
don't know if I want to get married. Well, then
you're probably not going to get married or you shouldn't
get married. But when you meet somebody and you say, hey,
you're the person. Hey, I've been with you for four
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years and you have performed at the highest level, then
you marry him. You sign him up. But Jerry's like,
I don't know, he could get hit by a car?
What what.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
He could? And so could you?
Speaker 7 (11:52):
Yes, Marvin, don't you try to draft well and get
a great edge rusher so you can sign him? So
he can be on that team for the rest of
his career. Yes, crazy thought, that's that's the goal. That's
the goal.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
That you found your guy and then all of a
sudden you're not quite sure and I'm I'm sure a
deal will get done. You do not want to lose
Michael Parsons because if you did, then lose him in
April when you can take advantage of the draft and
teams who would then you know, pony up. You're not
going to get equal value here from Michael Parsons. I
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don't think he'll be traded. It's Jerry doesn't want to
deal with Micah's.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
Agent, that's all. Jerry likes to talk to the player
one on one.
Speaker 8 (12:36):
We'll get a deal done and hey, hey, I reached
you know, but he's the one because he brought in
his agent.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Now.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
I don't know why.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
I don't know what the numbers are, but it feels
like Jerry was bothered that.
Speaker 8 (12:51):
I thought we were going to talk about this. We're
going to go back and forth. We get a deal done.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Yes see, that's why people have agents so that they
can do that on someone to be haf I do
like the idea though, that Jerry's like, you know, he
needs to do what's best for the team. They could
just say, well, isn't what's best for the.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
Team having me on it?
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Yes, Dylan, I think the team's better with me playing. Yeah,
maybe you should do it's best for the team.
Speaker 6 (13:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (13:19):
Jerry also seems like the first guy who if you
didn't have an agent in those discussions, he'd be like.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
I'm going to capitalize on this one. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (13:27):
I'm also dan for the record eight and a half.
Speaker 5 (13:29):
Eight and a half wins for the Cowboys. Sounding higher
and higher. Yeah, I'm going higher.
Speaker 7 (13:36):
Yes, Marvin, I can't wait until the opening of Thursday
Night football Opening Night Eagles celebrating their Super Bowl trophy.
We're talking about Micah Parsons.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
Oh yeah, yeah, I have to He got.
Speaker 7 (13:45):
Signed the Tuesday before the Thursday night game.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Do you think that's when it happens. But he's not
in camp. This happened with Ceedee Lamb. They dragged Dak
Prescott's out until the first Sunday of the NFL season.
And Jerry Jones will never come on this show. But
you know, anybody who talks to him locally, I would
just want to know tell me the business philosophy for
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waiting for somebody you're going to sign. I just want
to know that because if, as the source of the
NFL Players Association said, you know, eight million, you know
the difference between thirty four million and forty two million,
and then the following season that's another eight million, eight million,
So you could be paying thirty two million dollars more
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than you needed to over four years for Micah Parsons.
I don't understand the logic unless you say, we well,
we got thirty two million dollars in publicity. Now you
probably got one hundred million in publicity thanks to ESPN.
Speaker 7 (14:47):
Yes, Martin, and don't forget Jerry almost screwed up the
first dynasty when he didn't sign Emmis Smith and they
went owing to to start that season.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
Yes, yes, Bil.
Speaker 9 (14:57):
I mean that's sort of like getting like a parking
ticket and just being like, I don't want to pay
it right now, and then in two weeks it's like
triple the price.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
They're like, well that was stupid.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Oh, and you know I don't like leading with the
Cowboys because I just I won't do that to you.
But in this situation, now that you have the trade
request and do I still think it's going to get done.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
I do. I'm just kind of fascinated with the approach.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
These brilliant businessmen who are smart enough to make billions,
and then when it comes to dealing, you know, with individuals,
and you make moves and you go.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
How's this guy a billionaire? Again?
Speaker 6 (15:38):
Yeah? Smart?
Speaker 7 (15:39):
But Jerry doesn't think he's like the other guys. He
thinks he's a football guy because he played football at Arkansas,
So he's no, no, I'm not like the rest of them.
I'm a football guy that became a billionaire.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Oh yeah, all right, so we'll come up with the
pole question today. I it frustrates me because the Cowboys
dominate the headlines when there's really no news, and so
now you have them front and center, and it just
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gets to the point where you go, I they bang
my head against the wall.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
It'll get done.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Now, there's part of me hoping it doesn't get done,
Like I want, give me some chaos here, send him
to the Chicago Bears.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
All right, now we got something to talk about.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
But go back, Jerry and Micah hold a joint press conference,
and Jerry talk about you know, Micah and I love
him and like his son. And you know, hey, you know,
Jerry's tough. He's a tough negotiator. Yes, he is happy
to be a cow like. I've been doing this forty years,
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not much longer though, all right to take a break.
Just getting started on this month, and morale's high. Yes, Marvin,
only a couple more off seasons if you're talking cowboys.
Speaker 7 (17:04):
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Speaker 2 (18:20):
Spend a lot of time, maybe too much time in
the first hour talking about the cowboys, But can you
ever really talk too much about the cowboys? Todd Archer
does that for a living. He gets to cover the Cowboys.
He's been doing that since two thousand and three, NFL
reporters since nineteen ninety seven.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
Good to have you back on the show, Todd.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Why is this different with Michael Parsons than maybe other
holdouts contract situations In the.
Speaker 7 (18:49):
Time I've been covering this team.
Speaker 12 (18:50):
I don't remember a player ever making a trade request
in and I ask people who've been around longer than
me if they remember one, even early in Jerry's time
or even going back to Landry, and no one could
really think of one. So that's what makes this different.
Not in Jerry's mind, obviously, because he says to the
Cowboys fans don't lose it, lose any sleep over it,
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and is this just all part of the negotiation.
Speaker 7 (19:14):
I don't know if Mike.
Speaker 12 (19:15):
Is losing any sleep over it, but you could see
on his face as he was watching practice really not
engaged at all for the first time that he's pretty
frustrated and discouraged by this thing.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
But Jerry is going to sign him, right, I.
Speaker 12 (19:30):
Mean, tell me the last time a Cowboys star player
has not signed that Jerry has not kept. It took
Emmett missing two games and the Cowboys going zero to
two and ninety three for that deal to get done.
We know the DAK deals have taken time here the
last couple negotiations that DAK has had.
Speaker 6 (19:49):
We saw Cede Lamb's.
Speaker 12 (19:50):
Negotiation take through the almost the end of August last year.
But again, none of those guys said, I don't want
to be here anymore. None of those guys claimed talked
about the repeated shots that they feel the organization is
taken against them. That's what makes this different, and that's
what makes it different in my mind, from even Miles
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Garrett's trade request from Cleveland back in February.
Speaker 7 (20:15):
It never said.
Speaker 12 (20:16):
Anything about the organization itself other than I want to
win a Super Bowl. Thirty something days later, he resigned
with the Browns.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
But I'm just trying to understand the logic of this,
the business side of this, and I'm sure you guys
have had the opportunity to ask Jerry tell us how
it makes sense waiting longer than signing. He could have
signed Micah Parsons up in February when Miles Garrett signed
his deal or prior to TJ. I mean, he could
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have saved a lot of money here. He could have
done that with Dak. I don't maybe CD as well.
But you know, here we are again with Micah. But
I just don't understand the business philosophy with that.
Speaker 12 (20:58):
So there's a couple of elements to that one, and
I think one that we often forget in the media
is that the player waits too. Dak knew by waiting
on both of his recent contract negotiations that he would
make more he didn't. You know, you go back to
the first contract that he signed. They offered him what
Jared Goffin and gosh, I forget the other quarterback in
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Philadelphia that with Carson Wentz and he passed on it,
knowing that something better down the road was going to come.
And it did, and he pat and he waited on
this one and Ceedee Lamb was not going to sign
a contract until Justin Jefferson's deal got done. Now did
it take that lately the lag time to get that
deal done with ceed?
Speaker 13 (21:39):
No?
Speaker 12 (21:40):
And should it be this hard to get something done
with Mike and No. But Jerry does not view this
as a way of oh, I just took away two
million dollars in cap spase on this year, So no,
I can't get this player. He just doesn't. We can
throw the numbers in the math at him, and but
he can. He always believes that if I want to
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get a guy, however good he is, I can create
the cap space on any of these deals and.
Speaker 7 (22:06):
Go get a guy.
Speaker 12 (22:07):
But again, the Cowboys don't view free agency the way
some teams do, where they go sign big name guys,
So he just does not think it's that big of
a deal.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
I'm talking to todd Ard Serre, ESPN NFL Nation reporter.
He's been covering the Cowboys since two thousand and three.
The bigger picture question is how good is this team
in a division where you're the third best team right
now in your own division.
Speaker 12 (22:31):
I think they'll be better than people think. You have
a rookie head coach, so there'll be some growing pains
there with Brian Schottenheimer. But when Dak has been healthy
and played a full season, the Cowboys have been a
playoff team and or a playoff contender. Granted they've not
gone to an NFC title game, not going to a
Super Bowl, all that stuff, but when Dak has been healthy,
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they've played well. Now, Mike, if he misses games all
that stuff, everything changes.
Speaker 7 (22:59):
A little bit.
Speaker 12 (23:00):
But there's also an element if is Mica not going
to play? Is he not going to earn twenty one
million dollars this year?
Speaker 6 (23:07):
Like?
Speaker 12 (23:07):
So eventually he will have to get on the field.
And I would also point out that in the Cowboys mind,
they've gone through this, they had a franchise Dak Prescott,
he played out his contract. They had a franchise to
Marcus Lawrence. He played out his contract. And that's what
Jerry was essentially saying to us on Saturday was he
has under contract. We've seen guys play that their last
years before, and he believes if they don't get a deal,
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that's what will happen again. And the Cowboys can use
the franchise tag on on Micah in twenty twenty six,
twenty twenty seven, and even twenty twenty eight, if they
don't get a deal, If they want to go that route, Jerry,
we can talk about this again.
Speaker 6 (23:43):
Dan'd be great.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
Just how important is winning to Jerry?
Speaker 12 (23:49):
That's a great question, and he'll always say it's at
the top of the mind.
Speaker 7 (23:54):
It's been.
Speaker 12 (23:54):
If this is the thirtieth year without a Super Bowl,
We'll see what happens this year.
Speaker 7 (23:59):
But I think think there are people.
Speaker 12 (24:01):
That will say the Cowboys enjoy the limelight, enjoy the cash,
enjoy being the most notorious team in the league, maybe
more than winning, and that plays into Jerry's mindset sometimes.
I think he wants to win. I don't think there's
a question of that. I think he wants to win
his way.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
They should do a thirty for thirty this year as
the thirtieth anniversary of the Cowboys and look back on
these thirty years or the previous twenty nine years of
what went right, what went wrong, all the different movements
and coaches. And I don't even know if Ryan Schottenheimer
can be a head coach. I mean, you're also putting
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a rookie coach in this situation. And there's a lot
of things that just feels like we're not even looking
at the bigger picture of the Cowboys when they get
on the football field.
Speaker 5 (24:53):
It's all this ancillary.
Speaker 12 (24:54):
Stuff, right, And that's the issue, right, that the focus
is away from the field, away from football, that football
isn't always the most important thing when it should be.
I asked Brian Schottenheimer if he ever feels caught in
the middle during these situations, and he said, no, I'm
a guy who can see both sides, see all the angles,
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and I'll communicate to Jerry and Steven, and I'll communicate
to Micah and the players. And so far he's he's
handled it well. He's obviously the son of a longtime
head coach, has seen a lot of things in his
time as an assistant coach, seeing a lot of things
when he was growing up. There's nothing like the Cowboys, though.
Speaker 5 (25:35):
Have fun, Todd, I'll try.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Thanks Todd Archer, he SKEPN NFL Nation reporter governed the
Cowboys since two thousand and three.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
Yeah, the bigger picture is are they any good? Dylan?
Who's in for Paul today?
Speaker 2 (25:49):
I told you to check DraftKings odds of what are
the odds of the Cowboys winning a playoff game?
Speaker 9 (25:55):
So they don't have that specifically, but they have some
similar to one. So to miss the playoffs their minds
to twenty okay, not a lot of hope. They're to
lose in the wild card round plus four hundred. That's
a pretty good bet. If they do make the playoffs, okay,
historically speaking, to lose in the divisional round plus eight hundred,
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to losing the conference championship game plus two thousand, and
then if you really want to waste some money, to
lose in the Super Bowl plus forty five hundred, and
to win the Super Bowl plus plus five thousand.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Hy Tom in North Carolina, Hi, Tom, what's on your
mind today?
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Hey?
Speaker 14 (26:34):
DP, I was listening to that SoundBite from Jerry Jones's
comments about Micah Parsons, and he did say, you know,
when you're guaranteeing around two hundred million, So I mean,
if you're doing the math, it's you know, that's a
little bit less. It's a five year extension, but it's
a little bit less than TJ.
Speaker 6 (26:54):
Watt.
Speaker 14 (26:54):
So I'm wondering, do you think Micah's deal is going
to be all guaranteed money around two hundred million.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
I don't know, but it feels like if I'm Michael
Parsons agent, that's what I want. Miles Garrett got four years,
one sixty, Max Crosby three years, one oh six point five,
TJ Watt three years, won twenty three. Parsons said to
make twenty one point three million on the fifth year option. Here,
I mean you could always, you know, continue to push
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this a little bit and see if Dak is willing
to give up twenty one million dollars. Everybody who thinks
about hey, he should sit out. They should all go
back to Le'Veon bell. Hey, you set out for the Steelers.
How did that go? Yes, the Jets were dumb enough
to give you some money, but you don't make up
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that money and it was I don't know, it might
have been fifteen million dollars. But Michaeh Parsons isn't going
to lose twenty one million dollars. And Jerry knows if
they're going to make the playoffs, if they're going to
have any hope this year, you got to have Michael
Parsons in there. Yeah, Dylan demanding in trade seems like
a much better strategy than holding out for the like
(28:05):
same end result ultimately, but without any real downside. Well,
he's holding in and he doesn't he doesn't want to
leave the Cowboys. Now I don't believe that for a second.
Once again, this is part of negotiations. It feels like
now Terry McLaurin, I don't know how that plays out.
And that's a really big deal as well. It's just
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not going to get the attention because he plays for
the Commanders. Dylan in Maine, Hi, Dylan, what's on your
mind today?
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Hey?
Speaker 13 (28:34):
DP, I'm just wanting to tell you about a great
golf course in Maine. I know you have a hall here.
It's the Tannis Golf Course in Bassboro. It's thirty six holes.
It's a great course. But I wanted to talk about
like Stephen Jones seems like he doesn't get any of
the blame at all, and he's not really a young guy,
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and he needs to step up to his dad and
be like you need to like stall.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
Jerry, I don't know that that's gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Steven doesn't get any credit or any blame because it
doesn't feel like he's really involved in the decision making.
Speaker 5 (29:09):
I'm assuming he is. But but Jerry takes the air
out of the room.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
This is about Jerry Jones. He didn't want to share
anything Poppy in Rochester. Hi, Poppy, what's on your mind?
Speaker 6 (29:21):
Hi?
Speaker 15 (29:22):
Then the first time a long time, I disagree with
everything you guys traut size Tom Brady not as Tom Brady,
but he's involved with in soccer.
Speaker 6 (29:33):
Okay.
Speaker 15 (29:34):
The European champions PSG from friends are owned by oil people. Liverpool,
one of the greatest things in the world, is owned
by the Red Sox people. The Manchester United is owned
by the Tampa Bay people. It is how much you know?
Chelsea is owned by the la not just people. I
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was at the Club World Cup final the Giants Stadium
eighty one. Thou you know But what I disagree with
your comments made you guys said, was that how much
Dom Brady knows about soccer. It's not how much you know,
it's the money that talks. He has, the money he
puts up by the club. He put the best people,
they know the business and they're going to have a
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successful operation.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Well, he doesn't have the money anywhere near the money
of these other people you're talking about. And I don't
know if you know, the Glazier family allowed people to
follow them and they go, we don't know anything about soccer,
but once, once we build up this team, we're gonna sell.
Like his pr approach to this is what we're commenting on.
(30:40):
So thank you for the phone call.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
Yes, I think Poppy said it in there because I
think everything that he says is right. He said, you
put the best people in place to make the decisions. Well,
the way that this is being presented is that we're
making the decisions. We're the guys that know how to win.
Tom is the guy who's gonna we need a new
coach because this coach isn't the right one. How the
hell does he know that they're trying to run over
tactics with him at one point, and uh, like you know,
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it's very clear. It's like, oh so this guy needs
to stand over here. Okay, got it, got it? Like
it just doesn't it's really not translating. He's really not
connecting with the material at all. I think that it's
the more about it has nothing to do with money.
It's more about the way it's being presented as this
hands on approach to their ownership that seems wrong.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Yeah, and if you look at Wrexham, you know, Rob
and Ryan they never said they knew soccer.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
There's actually a moment in the in one of the
episodes when it's the Wrexham Birmingham game where they're all
talking about their experiences like yeah, so we own Wrexham,
Yeah we own Birmingham and they're like, oh yeah, we're
down in the locker room all the time, and they're
like Rob is like really, oh no, no.
Speaker 6 (31:49):
We don't do that.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
No, Like well, we'll be in there and be like
hey guys, all right, what's up, Like do what you do?
We're gonna go watch, but we're very hands off because
we don't know anything about the game.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
And that should be the approach of Tom is be
one of the silent owners in there. But you can
be there for your team and your community. But if
you don't know soccer, then you hire people who do
know soccer.
Speaker 7 (32:12):
Yes, Marvin, that's the funny thing. You say the same
thing about NFL owners.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Yeah, it's the guy who gets too involved where we go,
will you just be an owner? Just just being an owner.
It's when they go, you know, I'm gonna make this
draft pick. Wait what No, No, we don't want Johnny Manziel.
Yes we do. No, No, we don't know.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
Okay, all right, we won't take him.
Speaker 7 (32:33):
Yes.
Speaker 9 (32:34):
Still, there's an episode you know that show The Studio, Yeah,
where like Seth Rogan, the studio head goes to the
set and just like derail everything.
Speaker 5 (32:43):
And that's just the same version of this.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Yeah, he's in the wrong place at the wrong time,
and you know that's where you go, I'm going to
go out there on the movie set and then you
go out there and you're like, uh, what are you
doing here?
Speaker 5 (32:55):
You have no idea what you're doing, do you No?
Speaker 1 (32:59):
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Speaker 2 (33:12):
Matthew Stafford is seeing a back specialist again, hasn't practiced yet,
Micah Parsions making the trade request, and Jerry Jones says
don't lose sleep over pull question Seaton, what are we
going to go with in our three? And then we'll
talk to Brent Musburger the Hall of Famer We got
(33:33):
up there right now? Are the Dallas Cowboys a good
team to play for?
Speaker 7 (33:37):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (33:37):
Or no? Are your handsome right now?
Speaker 4 (33:40):
Eighty six percent say you want to get Yes, that
would be no. Oh they're only get They're getting fourteen
percent of low right now saying that yes, it is
a good place to play. Well, what other that's a
big number. Yes, that's a big I thought it would
be way closer than that. Yeah, especially like I don't know,
given our audience, I thought there would be a little
(34:01):
more respect for the team that way. But do you
think that that's just recency bias or do you think
that's how far the Cowboys have fallen in terms of reputation.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Well, the number of people who hate the Cowboys probably
voted as well.
Speaker 5 (34:17):
And they're not a very good team.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Well, I guess if you factor all that in, I
still think that address means something, and I look at
it differently.
Speaker 5 (34:29):
You're just you're more famous.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
I mean, Michael Parsons has a podcast because he's on
the Cowboys.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
No, it's like Draymond Green.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Nobody would care if he played in Atlanta, but he's
with Golden State and he has a pod. You know,
it just feels like there's certain addresses that mean a
little bit more, yes, Dylan.
Speaker 9 (34:49):
Well, also, I mean, based on our caller earlier too,
a lot of those votes against playing there might be
from Cowboys fans themselves too. They don't exactly seem like
thrilled on that join up.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
The moment over under is eight and a half wins
for the Cowboys this year. Let's bring in the freshly
minted Hall of Famer winner of Pro Football Hall of
Fame Pete Rosel Radio TV Award. He's Brent Musburger. Do
you feel any different after this weekend?
Speaker 16 (35:18):
You know, it was such an honor, Dan, and I
owe you so much appreciation because I wasn't even thinking
about it until you and Jim Nantz brought it up
and then Dick for Meal kind of carried the ball
from there, and so I owe so much to everybody.
Speaker 6 (35:36):
It was a It was a wonderful weekend. Dan. I
have to say that.
Speaker 16 (35:41):
I was shocked when Jane Kennedy was brought in to
introduce me okay at the banquet that night, completely unexpected.
And of course De along with Phyllis George worked on
the NFL today at IRV Cross and Jimmy the Great
James got a book out called Playing James and she's
a great story. I recommend that for it. But then
(36:04):
I want to compliment the city of Canton, Ohio. You know,
this is their biggest weekend. People were so nice in
the committee and oh, by the way, I had at
least two people mentioned Dan Patrick needs to bring his
show into Canton for the Hall of Fame. Okay, they
came right to me. I said, listen, I'll mention this Dan,
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because we had over a hundred Hall of Famers show up.
So yes, I so appreciate the honor and so does
the family. But I was a kid in a candy
store when they started introducing all these guys that I
had covered. Dan Fouse did a fantastic job. They bring
him out to a stage and then they set a
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couple of rows on either side and they bring out
the new Hall of Famers. And you know, the four
guys who were inducted this year had such great stories
when they came out.
Speaker 6 (36:57):
I'll start with STIRLINGE. Sharp. He was the only one
onto the floor.
Speaker 16 (37:00):
By the way, it was a first round draft choice,
so okay by the Green Day Packers. And then it
was so heartwarming when he and Shannon hugged each other
up on the stage.
Speaker 6 (37:11):
Shannon presented him with the.
Speaker 16 (37:12):
Gold jacket, first first brothers to make the Pro Football
Hall of Fame, and I couldn't resist. I got over
to Stirling. I whispered in his ear. Eli Manning will
never forgive you, you.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Know, heybet Eli to the punch there, going into the
whole bit.
Speaker 5 (37:31):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
But I don't know why it took so long. And
maybe you're not the right person to ask this, but
you're in. You're a Hall of Famer, and and I'm
very happy, you know, and a lot of this just
like with John Facenda, he was the voice of the NFL,
and I just said, don't forget about who helped us
get here to a multi multi billion dollar organization company
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and I'm glad you got to experience that. You know,
I wish that IRV Cross had been around. You know,
Jimmy the Gree, you know, people that you were with
when you did the first pregame show. Any idea if
that was how successful that was going to be when
you started, Well.
Speaker 6 (38:14):
I liked the idea that we were going live.
Speaker 16 (38:17):
Remember now, the pregame show on CBS prior to the
NFL Today had been called Countdown to Kickoff, Pat summer
All and Jack Whittaker. They taped it on Friday night,
Friday Night, okay, and it was Bob Wessler's idea, let's
do this live, and then the halftimes in the and
the postgame there was I felt sort of an immediate impact,
(38:41):
especially when Mike Wallace strolled in about week number four
and you guys are doing great. Yeah, because I always
said having up next sixty minutes.
Speaker 6 (38:49):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
What is your favorite moment though or story that if
you know all the years.
Speaker 16 (38:58):
Well, you know, let me go to the night that
Jimmy the Greek and I had a little fist cups
in a New York saloon. Okay, let me tell everybody
Jimmy objected to the fact that he thought I.
Speaker 6 (39:11):
Cut him short.
Speaker 16 (39:12):
Everybody's got to remember we only had about twenty eight
minutes of airtime, so I had to dish it out
to everybody. Okay. So I was living in Los Angeles
at the time. I saw I was working with Connie
Chum and the news in LA and then I'd fired
for the NFL today. So I got a call the
morning after I returned to LA.
Speaker 5 (39:31):
We got a.
Speaker 6 (39:31):
Fire of the Greek.
Speaker 16 (39:32):
We're going to get rid of him. I said, hey,
hold on, let me get back to you.
Speaker 6 (39:37):
A little bit. And I I talked to my wife, Arlene.
Speaker 16 (39:40):
I said, you know, Orlean, I don't want the Greek's
blood on my hands because we had an incident.
Speaker 6 (39:44):
I mean, we're very close. I like brothers.
Speaker 16 (39:48):
So I thought about called him back, and I said,
please don't fire the Greek.
Speaker 6 (39:52):
We'll find a way. Okay. So we knew Bob Aram
the boxing guy, really well.
Speaker 16 (39:57):
And he got us a bell and a couple of
pairs boxing gloves, and we opened.
Speaker 6 (40:01):
Up the next week and made the light of it
and life went on from there. You know, It's it's
the people.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Dan.
Speaker 16 (40:11):
I just loved working with the people that we had.
Phyllis left us for a while because she thought she
was going to become an Oscar winning movie star, and
Jane Kennedy was brought in after that, and it was
such a delight. Jane was loved by the players when
she would grow up for the interviews, and then and
then Phyllis came back.
Speaker 6 (40:31):
A little bit later.
Speaker 16 (40:32):
Things didn't quite work out in Hollywood, but it was
the people that I dealt with that I.
Speaker 5 (40:36):
Loved who got the better of the fight.
Speaker 16 (40:43):
Well, the Greek hit me and decide, you know, it
wasn't a very tough blow. My brother might have got
the best of it. But the smartest guy in the
bar was the bartender, and he turned the lights off, okay,
and so nobody could see anybody. Okay, kind of calm down,
okay now. But what happened was I was at table
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when the Greek came in, but sitting at the bar
was a guy who worked on the city desk of
the New York Post. He ran back and of course
got a bang.
Speaker 6 (41:15):
You know, there's the picture of the Greek and fillows
and you know, off, off we go.
Speaker 16 (41:20):
If he hadn't been in there having a coal one. Okay,
between shifts. I don't think anybody would have known about it,
to tell you the truth, but yeah.
Speaker 7 (41:29):
It was.
Speaker 6 (41:30):
It was on in an instant and over in an instant.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
Well, I'm happy for you. I'm proud of you. You
helped put it in my head that I could do
this or they had jobs like this when I was
growing up. But happy in any role that we possibly played.
But that was more of just to remind people the
greatness of Brent Musburger.
Speaker 5 (41:52):
So thank you. I hope it was everything that you
hoped for this weekend.
Speaker 6 (41:55):
It was and Dan, thanks to you. Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
That's the Hall of Brent Musburger twenty twenty five Pro
Football Hall of Fame inducteem And I was thinking about
this weekend and once again, Brent did all the work.
Sometimes you have to remind people of those who came
before us. Kurt Flood is not in the Baseball Hall
of Fame. Kurt Flood is the reason why you have
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the salaries that we have. He challenged Major League Baseball.
It cost him, but he was willing to sit out
because he didn't think that he should be treated like
a piece of property. And Kurt Flood was one of
the great defensive outfielders played for a World Series champion.
Speaker 5 (42:44):
He was a very good player.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
But I started to think about the contributions to the game,
and I love that aspect with Hall of Fames, just
like John Facenda and Brent Musburger and so many different
people in certain Halls of Fame that they contributed to
the growth of the game. Kurt Flood is one of
the most Oh boy, I don't even know if there's
(43:07):
word or words courageous to take on Major League Baseball
and say no, you don't own my rights after I'm
done with your team or done playing. It just felt
like he said, I'm not a piece of meat here.
But when you think about the importance, why isn't he
(43:29):
in the Baseball Hall of Fame as a contributor Like
Buck O'Neil played in the negro leagues, and Buck lived
long enough to be able to tell everybody about these
great players who played in the negro leagues so they
could get into the Hall of Fame. And I said,
to somebody with the Baseball Hall of Fame, I said,
(43:50):
Buck O'Neil is a Hall of Famer. He was a
very good player, but contributions to the game. Buck O'Neil
was the one who was there with eulogies, your career eulogy.
He was telling everybody about these players so they could
get into the Hall of Fame. Those who didn't get
to see those in the negro leagues. I said, that's
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contributions to the game. Kurt Flood deserves to be in
the Baseball Hall of Fame. It's in the Cardinals Hall
of Fame, I believe. But Kurt Flood, he wasn't afraid.
He took on the system. Yeah, Marvin so.
Speaker 7 (44:29):
Was Kurt Flood on the same level as Sonny Vvicaro
to you.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
Uh no, different. Sonny Vaccaro should be in the basketball
Hall of Fame. But Kurt Flood what he did that
was for all of the players to be treated differently.
Sonny just found a loophole and said, hey, I can
sell shoes and make money for the coaches, make money,
you know, for the players. You know, that was business.
(44:54):
But he contributed to the game and signing Michael Jordan,
and signing Kobe Bryant and almost sign Lebron Jay. You know,
he was involved in the movers and shakers. But different,
but contributions to the Kurt Flood truly contributed to the game.
I mean, you would not show. Hey, Otani may not
(45:15):
have any idea who Kurt Flood is, but he should
and I would hope maybe Baseball can rectify that and
put him into the Baseball Hall of Fame. And I've
gotten on this kick as I get older, and really
my time of doing this job is diminishing. But Barry
Melrose in the Hockey Hall of Fame, Don Cherry in
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the Hockey Hall of Fame, Sonny Vaccaro in the Basketball
Hall of Fame, mel kiper in the Pro Football Hall
of Fame, Kurt Flood in the Baseball Hall of Fame.
To me, these are no brainers. And I don't envy
those who vote on the Hall of Fame. I just
want to remind you and any of you voters that
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ever want to talk about why I think this way,
or if I can add any kind of backdrop, I'll
be more than happy to do it. And I don't
have any other interest in it than telling the correct
story and doing the right things for these people. But
Kurt Flood should be in the Baseball Hall of Fame
as a contributor. Maybe you don't put him in there
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as a player, I understand that, but contributions to the game.
And if you're not familiar with Kurt Flood, please google
him and understand what he did and at the end
of his career, sacrificed his career so players could become
free agents. And I remember Andy Messersmith, he was the
(46:41):
first free agent in baseball history. Now we take it
for granted now it's normal, but it wasn't then major
League Baseball. He was Boie Kune was the commissioner. It
was Booie Kune v. Kurt Flood, and Kurt Flood eventually
won
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at twenty twenty five. The former Packer Great will join us.
Coming up, all right, a few things now.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
It got serious on Friday with Micah Parsons, because up
until this point I just thought it was a chess game.
And Jerry's done this before. But always remember this if
you're a Cowboy fan. Jerry doesn't lose anybody that he
wants to keep. If he wants to keep Michael Parsons,
he'll keep Michah Parsons. What happened is Michael parsons agent
(01:43):
got involved in this. Jerry likes to talk to the
player and let's work this out. And normally the player
does pretty well with Jerry Jones. But in this situation,
Michael Parsons has requested a trade. Here is Jerry Jones
on the message that he's sending to Cowboy fans.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
As always, in any relationships or different moods at different
times of your relationship, that's what it is. And don't
lose in sleepover. So just evens one thing I would
say to our fan, don't lose in sleepover.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Just to be clear, you don't feel the relationship has
changed at all from the Super Bowl Big twelve.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Again, I know my attitude, and my attitude is the
same one I've had. I think the world of Micah.
He's an outstanding player. He can really help us, but
he's got to fit in with what's in the best
interest of the team. And that's what the negotiation is
all about.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
And it's not just about money. It's about trust, and
the trust is wearing thin. You have Jerry and his son.
They walked the type rope before, but this feels a
little bit different than Ceedee Lamb or Dak Prescott. Parsons
isn't just another disgruntled player. He's a foundational piece. When
you think of the defense. He's one of the top
(02:57):
two three four players on defense in the NFL. And
not every trade request ends in departure. But you know,
the tension is there, and I always wonder about the
relationship that, yes, you can kind of tamp that down
a little bit, you can bury it a little bit,
but it's still there. Now if Jerry really wanted to
(03:18):
play in toy with Michah Parsons. You know, you can
franchise tag him for a couple of years if you
wanted to. It feels like Jerry has gotten what he wanted.
You know, keep this in mind of when he bought
the team, he got the three Super Bowls. Now it
just feels like he loves being in the spotlight. The
Cowboys are going to lead every show, Michah Parsons, They're
(03:40):
going to talk about the Cowboys. He does subscribe to
any publicity is good publicity?
Speaker 5 (03:45):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
But he's a brilliant businessman and the Cowboys are worth
ten billion dollars.
Speaker 5 (03:50):
The number of.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Analysts who have in the last year or maybe a
year and a half said this is about publicity. If
Jerry didn't have those three soupers, I wonder what his
approach would be as an owner. Because he's got three,
and he's a Hall of Famer and he's a billionaire.
I think he craves the attention. I think he loves
the attention. They haven't won anything. Now, They've flirted with
(04:14):
some good seasons that end up, you know, and you
know it's a crash a thud, But I just wonder
about Jerry when it comes to having a microphone in
his face, cameras in his face, everybody waiting to talk
to you, waiting to see what you say, and sometimes
(04:34):
the I don't Maybe lack of urgency has always concerned me.
Here you're probably the third best team in your own division.
I just don't think you can play games like this.
I think get a contract done and move on. Get
a contract. If you truly want to keep Micah Parsons
(04:55):
and c d Lamb and Dak Prescott, then get the
job done. Get it done, because if you're going to wait,
every time you've waited, it's cost you more money and
you need to have a full roster. You're top heavy
with Micah and Dak and Ceedee Lamb. But this is
your goal when you draft them. Your goal is I
(05:17):
hope he's one of the greatest defensive players and he's
here for a long time. Well, he's one of the
greatest defensive players, but now you're making him rethink if
he wants to be here. Ceedee Lamb. I hope he
becomes one of the best receivers in the game. He
has Now Dak Prescott, you can say, oh, you know what,
(05:37):
if he proves to be a starter and he's consistent, man,
that'll be great. We found a diamond in the rough. Okay,
you got him, you signed him, you paid him more
than you needed to. But that's your guy. He can
be loyal. But then you're not quite sure why he
gets some deals done and then doesn't get Michaeh. Parsons
done when you could have. And I go back to
(05:59):
April when before the draft. Now, all of a sudden,
you got everybody who can be involved in this. I
don't want to wait till August if I'm gonna play
a game and say, all right, you know, maybe, well
we'll trade him if we have to. He doesn't want
to be here, we'll trade him in April. Everybody can
be involved in this. If you truly aren't all in
on Micah Parsons, that's when we should have been discussing this,
(06:21):
not now, because it still feels like Jerry he's going
to get this done at some point. It might be
in three weeks, it might be on you know, the Sunday,
you know when they open up, what is it a month?
A month from today the Cowboys open up, right, So
is that what his I mean, we headed towards that
(06:43):
kind of deadline finish line with Jerry. It just it
feels like he loves Craves, needs that attention, and he's
gotten it. But if he didn't have those three Super Bowls,
I wonder if his approach would be a whole lot different.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
All Right, See let's poll question today. Is Dallas a
good place to play?
Speaker 6 (07:05):
Yes or no?
Speaker 2 (07:07):
You don't want to lose that address Like you're a cowboy.
It's different. If Dak played for Jacksonville, no one would
care Ceedee Lamb. If he was in Cleveland, we'd be like,
that guy's pretty good. Micah Parsons, he would be different
because Michael Parsons would still be a force no matter
where he is. But being a cowboy, it means something
(07:28):
more than any other franchise, as loyal as Green Bay is,
as Pittsburgh is, you know, the old Raiders. There's something
about being a Dallas cowboy everything that goes with that.
You get clicks, you get headlines, you get publicity, you
get endorsements. You're a cowboy if you can put up
(07:50):
with that. From the standpoint of everything you do is
under a magnifying glass. You know, I saw Dak Prescott's
building a mansion and I saw the early stages of that,
or a gender reveal with his wife or girlfriend gets
all there. You know, you got Troy Aikman who something said,
(08:13):
you know Troy that you know he talks about the cowboys.
It's going to be put there on the front page.
Tony Romo, I mean they got jobs, they're cowboys. Jason
Garrett got a job, Jason Witten got a job. So
you you do have I mean it means something. It's
like being a Laker, kind of like being a Dodger
(08:36):
or a Yankee, but to a lesser degree. But you know,
you have that address and if you can, if you
can put up with everything that goes along with that,
it's a great place to play.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Yes, se right, But there's the address and then there's
everything that comes with the address, and one of those
things is not rings. What you get is you're overrated
because you're a cowboy. You get constant abuse from cowboy fans.
We could just look at Shae for that. There's these
(09:11):
unbelievable expectations of greatness despite no real recent track history
of being able to accomplish that. It feels like that
address is maybe a little delusional right now about what
that address means.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
I think it's absolutely delusional because it's been thirty years. Correct,
No team in any sport in the United States has
gotten more publicity for doing less than Dallas. But Dallas
gets more publicity than anybody. And you're living off those
fumes of a different generation with the triplets there and
(09:48):
Jerry is built out, build up this house.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
Credit that.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Hey, he still means something. What the Cowboys mean, but
they don't mean anything thing if you think about it,
like they're just a curiosity, that's all. I got a
what's the over? Under seven and a half maybe eight
and a half at the most. Maybe they make the
(10:13):
playoffs this year. It all goes well. Here's another thing
that's kind of lost in this, in my opinion, you
have Brian Schottenheimer, who was a first time head coach.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
It's already tough enough to coach the Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Now we're going to, you know, give you a degree
of difficulty here, and he's trying to establish a culture here.
What's hard to do that when your best player is
right over there and he's not practicing. You got a
quarterback who's injury prone, and you paid him all that money.
You got Pickens, who's going to eventually want a contract too. Like,
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there's a lot of things involved in this. You know,
they do some things really really well, and then there
are other things where you go and this is where
the attention to detail I think has cost them greatly.
And as somebody with the Players Association said to me
last weekend, if you wait many how many months with
(11:11):
Michael Parson, if you know that you love Michael Parsons,
then it's like when you say, you know, I don't
want to get married, but I'm going to stay engaged,
And then the next year we're still engaged, but I
don't know if I want to get married. Well, then
you're probably not going to get married or you shouldn't
get married. But when you meet somebody and you say, hey,
you're the person. Hey, I've been with you for four
(11:33):
years and you have performed at the highest level, then
you marry him. You sign him up. But Jerry's like,
I don't know, he could get hit by a car?
What what.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
He could? And so could you?
Speaker 7 (11:52):
Yes, Marvin, don't you try to draft well and get
a great edge rusher so you can sign him? So
he can be on that team for the rest of
his career. Yes, crazy thought, that's that's the goal. That's
the goal.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
That you found your guy and then all of a
sudden you're not quite sure and I'm I'm sure a
deal will get done. You do not want to lose
Michael Parsons because if you did, then lose him in
April when you can take advantage of the draft and
teams who would then you know, pony up. You're not
going to get equal value here from Michael Parsons. I
(12:25):
don't think he'll be traded. It's Jerry doesn't want to
deal with Micah's.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
Agent, that's all. Jerry likes to talk to the player
one on one.
Speaker 8 (12:36):
We'll get a deal done and hey, hey, I reached
you know, but he's the one because he brought in
his agent.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Now.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
I don't know why.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
I don't know what the numbers are, but it feels
like Jerry was bothered that.
Speaker 8 (12:51):
I thought we were going to talk about this. We're
going to go back and forth. We get a deal done.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Yes see, that's why people have agents so that they
can do that on someone to be haf I do
like the idea though, that Jerry's like, you know, he
needs to do what's best for the team. They could
just say, well, isn't what's best for the.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
Team having me on it?
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Yes, Dylan, I think the team's better with me playing. Yeah,
maybe you should do it's best for the team.
Speaker 6 (13:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (13:19):
Jerry also seems like the first guy who if you
didn't have an agent in those discussions, he'd be like.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
I'm going to capitalize on this one. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (13:27):
I'm also dan for the record eight and a half.
Speaker 5 (13:29):
Eight and a half wins for the Cowboys. Sounding higher
and higher. Yeah, I'm going higher.
Speaker 7 (13:36):
Yes, Marvin, I can't wait until the opening of Thursday
Night football Opening Night Eagles celebrating their Super Bowl trophy.
We're talking about Micah Parsons.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
Oh yeah, yeah, I have to He got.
Speaker 7 (13:45):
Signed the Tuesday before the Thursday night game.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Do you think that's when it happens. But he's not
in camp. This happened with Ceedee Lamb. They dragged Dak
Prescott's out until the first Sunday of the NFL season.
And Jerry Jones will never come on this show. But
you know, anybody who talks to him locally, I would
just want to know tell me the business philosophy for
(14:09):
waiting for somebody you're going to sign. I just want
to know that because if, as the source of the
NFL Players Association said, you know, eight million, you know
the difference between thirty four million and forty two million,
and then the following season that's another eight million, eight million,
So you could be paying thirty two million dollars more
(14:32):
than you needed to over four years for Micah Parsons.
I don't understand the logic unless you say, we well,
we got thirty two million dollars in publicity. Now you
probably got one hundred million in publicity thanks to ESPN.
Speaker 7 (14:47):
Yes, Martin, and don't forget Jerry almost screwed up the
first dynasty when he didn't sign Emmis Smith and they
went owing to to start that season.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
Yes, yes, Bil.
Speaker 9 (14:57):
I mean that's sort of like getting like a parking
ticket and just being like, I don't want to pay
it right now, and then in two weeks it's like
triple the price.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
They're like, well that was stupid.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Oh, and you know I don't like leading with the
Cowboys because I just I won't do that to you.
But in this situation, now that you have the trade
request and do I still think it's going to get done.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
I do. I'm just kind of fascinated with the approach.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
These brilliant businessmen who are smart enough to make billions,
and then when it comes to dealing, you know, with individuals,
and you make moves and you go.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
How's this guy a billionaire? Again?
Speaker 6 (15:38):
Yeah? Smart?
Speaker 7 (15:39):
But Jerry doesn't think he's like the other guys. He
thinks he's a football guy because he played football at Arkansas,
So he's no, no, I'm not like the rest of them.
I'm a football guy that became a billionaire.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Oh yeah, all right, so we'll come up with the
pole question today. I it frustrates me because the Cowboys
dominate the headlines when there's really no news, and so
now you have them front and center, and it just
(16:12):
gets to the point where you go, I they bang
my head against the wall.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
It'll get done.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Now, there's part of me hoping it doesn't get done,
Like I want, give me some chaos here, send him
to the Chicago Bears.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
All right, now we got something to talk about.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
But go back, Jerry and Micah hold a joint press conference,
and Jerry talk about you know, Micah and I love
him and like his son. And you know, hey, you know,
Jerry's tough. He's a tough negotiator. Yes, he is happy
to be a cow like. I've been doing this forty years,
(16:52):
not much longer though, all right to take a break.
Just getting started on this month, and morale's high. Yes, Marvin,
only a couple more off seasons if you're talking cowboys.
Speaker 7 (17:04):
I know.
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Speaker 2 (18:20):
Spend a lot of time, maybe too much time in
the first hour talking about the cowboys, But can you
ever really talk too much about the cowboys? Todd Archer
does that for a living. He gets to cover the Cowboys.
He's been doing that since two thousand and three, NFL
reporters since nineteen ninety seven.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
Good to have you back on the show, Todd.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Why is this different with Michael Parsons than maybe other
holdouts contract situations In the.
Speaker 7 (18:49):
Time I've been covering this team.
Speaker 12 (18:50):
I don't remember a player ever making a trade request
in and I ask people who've been around longer than
me if they remember one, even early in Jerry's time
or even going back to Landry, and no one could
really think of one. So that's what makes this different.
Not in Jerry's mind, obviously, because he says to the
Cowboys fans don't lose it, lose any sleep over it,
(19:11):
and is this just all part of the negotiation.
Speaker 7 (19:14):
I don't know if Mike.
Speaker 12 (19:15):
Is losing any sleep over it, but you could see
on his face as he was watching practice really not
engaged at all for the first time that he's pretty
frustrated and discouraged by this thing.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
But Jerry is going to sign him, right, I.
Speaker 12 (19:30):
Mean, tell me the last time a Cowboys star player
has not signed that Jerry has not kept. It took
Emmett missing two games and the Cowboys going zero to
two and ninety three for that deal to get done.
We know the DAK deals have taken time here the
last couple negotiations that DAK has had.
Speaker 6 (19:49):
We saw Cede Lamb's.
Speaker 12 (19:50):
Negotiation take through the almost the end of August last year.
But again, none of those guys said, I don't want
to be here anymore. None of those guys claimed talked
about the repeated shots that they feel the organization is
taken against them. That's what makes this different, and that's
what makes it different in my mind, from even Miles
(20:11):
Garrett's trade request from Cleveland back in February.
Speaker 7 (20:15):
It never said.
Speaker 12 (20:16):
Anything about the organization itself other than I want to
win a Super Bowl. Thirty something days later, he resigned
with the Browns.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
But I'm just trying to understand the logic of this,
the business side of this, and I'm sure you guys
have had the opportunity to ask Jerry tell us how
it makes sense waiting longer than signing. He could have
signed Micah Parsons up in February when Miles Garrett signed
his deal or prior to TJ. I mean, he could
(20:47):
have saved a lot of money here. He could have
done that with Dak. I don't maybe CD as well.
But you know, here we are again with Micah. But
I just don't understand the business philosophy with that.
Speaker 12 (20:58):
So there's a couple of elements to that one, and
I think one that we often forget in the media
is that the player waits too. Dak knew by waiting
on both of his recent contract negotiations that he would
make more he didn't. You know, you go back to
the first contract that he signed. They offered him what
Jared Goffin and gosh, I forget the other quarterback in
(21:21):
Philadelphia that with Carson Wentz and he passed on it,
knowing that something better down the road was going to come.
And it did, and he pat and he waited on
this one and Ceedee Lamb was not going to sign
a contract until Justin Jefferson's deal got done. Now did
it take that lately the lag time to get that
deal done with ceed?
Speaker 13 (21:39):
No?
Speaker 12 (21:40):
And should it be this hard to get something done
with Mike and No. But Jerry does not view this
as a way of oh, I just took away two
million dollars in cap spase on this year, So no,
I can't get this player. He just doesn't. We can
throw the numbers in the math at him, and but
he can. He always believes that if I want to
(22:00):
get a guy, however good he is, I can create
the cap space on any of these deals and.
Speaker 7 (22:06):
Go get a guy.
Speaker 12 (22:07):
But again, the Cowboys don't view free agency the way
some teams do, where they go sign big name guys,
So he just does not think it's that big of
a deal.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
I'm talking to todd Ard Serre, ESPN NFL Nation reporter.
He's been covering the Cowboys since two thousand and three.
The bigger picture question is how good is this team
in a division where you're the third best team right
now in your own division.
Speaker 12 (22:31):
I think they'll be better than people think. You have
a rookie head coach, so there'll be some growing pains
there with Brian Schottenheimer. But when Dak has been healthy
and played a full season, the Cowboys have been a
playoff team and or a playoff contender. Granted they've not
gone to an NFC title game, not going to a
Super Bowl, all that stuff, but when Dak has been healthy,
(22:53):
they've played well. Now, Mike, if he misses games all
that stuff, everything changes.
Speaker 7 (22:59):
A little bit.
Speaker 12 (23:00):
But there's also an element if is Mica not going
to play? Is he not going to earn twenty one
million dollars this year?
Speaker 6 (23:07):
Like?
Speaker 12 (23:07):
So eventually he will have to get on the field.
And I would also point out that in the Cowboys mind,
they've gone through this, they had a franchise Dak Prescott,
he played out his contract. They had a franchise to
Marcus Lawrence. He played out his contract. And that's what
Jerry was essentially saying to us on Saturday was he
has under contract. We've seen guys play that their last
years before, and he believes if they don't get a deal,
(23:30):
that's what will happen again. And the Cowboys can use
the franchise tag on on Micah in twenty twenty six,
twenty twenty seven, and even twenty twenty eight, if they
don't get a deal, If they want to go that route, Jerry,
we can talk about this again.
Speaker 6 (23:43):
Dan'd be great.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
Just how important is winning to Jerry?
Speaker 12 (23:49):
That's a great question, and he'll always say it's at
the top of the mind.
Speaker 7 (23:54):
It's been.
Speaker 12 (23:54):
If this is the thirtieth year without a Super Bowl,
We'll see what happens this year.
Speaker 7 (23:59):
But I think think there are people.
Speaker 12 (24:01):
That will say the Cowboys enjoy the limelight, enjoy the cash,
enjoy being the most notorious team in the league, maybe
more than winning, and that plays into Jerry's mindset sometimes.
I think he wants to win. I don't think there's
a question of that. I think he wants to win
his way.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
They should do a thirty for thirty this year as
the thirtieth anniversary of the Cowboys and look back on
these thirty years or the previous twenty nine years of
what went right, what went wrong, all the different movements
and coaches. And I don't even know if Ryan Schottenheimer
can be a head coach. I mean, you're also putting
(24:43):
a rookie coach in this situation. And there's a lot
of things that just feels like we're not even looking
at the bigger picture of the Cowboys when they get
on the football field.
Speaker 5 (24:53):
It's all this ancillary.
Speaker 12 (24:54):
Stuff, right, And that's the issue, right, that the focus
is away from the field, away from football, that football
isn't always the most important thing when it should be.
I asked Brian Schottenheimer if he ever feels caught in
the middle during these situations, and he said, no, I'm
a guy who can see both sides, see all the angles,
(25:15):
and I'll communicate to Jerry and Steven, and I'll communicate
to Micah and the players. And so far he's he's
handled it well. He's obviously the son of a longtime
head coach, has seen a lot of things in his
time as an assistant coach, seeing a lot of things
when he was growing up. There's nothing like the Cowboys, though.
Speaker 5 (25:35):
Have fun, Todd, I'll try.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Thanks Todd Archer, he SKEPN NFL Nation reporter governed the
Cowboys since two thousand and three.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
Yeah, the bigger picture is are they any good? Dylan?
Who's in for Paul today?
Speaker 2 (25:49):
I told you to check DraftKings odds of what are
the odds of the Cowboys winning a playoff game?
Speaker 9 (25:55):
So they don't have that specifically, but they have some
similar to one. So to miss the playoffs their minds
to twenty okay, not a lot of hope. They're to
lose in the wild card round plus four hundred. That's
a pretty good bet. If they do make the playoffs, okay,
historically speaking, to lose in the divisional round plus eight hundred,
(26:15):
to losing the conference championship game plus two thousand, and
then if you really want to waste some money, to
lose in the Super Bowl plus forty five hundred, and
to win the Super Bowl plus plus five thousand.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Hy Tom in North Carolina, Hi, Tom, what's on your
mind today?
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Hey?
Speaker 14 (26:34):
DP, I was listening to that SoundBite from Jerry Jones's
comments about Micah Parsons, and he did say, you know,
when you're guaranteeing around two hundred million, So I mean,
if you're doing the math, it's you know, that's a
little bit less. It's a five year extension, but it's
a little bit less than TJ.
Speaker 6 (26:54):
Watt.
Speaker 14 (26:54):
So I'm wondering, do you think Micah's deal is going
to be all guaranteed money around two hundred million.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
I don't know, but it feels like if I'm Michael
Parsons agent, that's what I want. Miles Garrett got four years,
one sixty, Max Crosby three years, one oh six point five,
TJ Watt three years, won twenty three. Parsons said to
make twenty one point three million on the fifth year option. Here,
I mean you could always, you know, continue to push
(27:22):
this a little bit and see if Dak is willing
to give up twenty one million dollars. Everybody who thinks
about hey, he should sit out. They should all go
back to Le'Veon bell. Hey, you set out for the Steelers.
How did that go? Yes, the Jets were dumb enough
to give you some money, but you don't make up
(27:43):
that money and it was I don't know, it might
have been fifteen million dollars. But Michaeh Parsons isn't going
to lose twenty one million dollars. And Jerry knows if
they're going to make the playoffs, if they're going to
have any hope this year, you got to have Michael
Parsons in there. Yeah, Dylan demanding in trade seems like
a much better strategy than holding out for the like
(28:05):
same end result ultimately, but without any real downside. Well,
he's holding in and he doesn't he doesn't want to
leave the Cowboys. Now I don't believe that for a second.
Once again, this is part of negotiations. It feels like
now Terry McLaurin, I don't know how that plays out.
And that's a really big deal as well. It's just
(28:27):
not going to get the attention because he plays for
the Commanders. Dylan in Maine, Hi, Dylan, what's on your
mind today?
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Hey?
Speaker 13 (28:34):
DP, I'm just wanting to tell you about a great
golf course in Maine. I know you have a hall here.
It's the Tannis Golf Course in Bassboro. It's thirty six holes.
It's a great course. But I wanted to talk about
like Stephen Jones seems like he doesn't get any of
the blame at all, and he's not really a young guy,
(28:54):
and he needs to step up to his dad and
be like you need to like stall.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
Jerry, I don't know that that's gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Steven doesn't get any credit or any blame because it
doesn't feel like he's really involved in the decision making.
Speaker 5 (29:09):
I'm assuming he is. But but Jerry takes the air
out of the room.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
This is about Jerry Jones. He didn't want to share
anything Poppy in Rochester. Hi, Poppy, what's on your mind?
Speaker 6 (29:21):
Hi?
Speaker 15 (29:22):
Then the first time a long time, I disagree with
everything you guys traut size Tom Brady not as Tom Brady,
but he's involved with in soccer.
Speaker 6 (29:33):
Okay.
Speaker 15 (29:34):
The European champions PSG from friends are owned by oil people. Liverpool,
one of the greatest things in the world, is owned
by the Red Sox people. The Manchester United is owned
by the Tampa Bay people. It is how much you know?
Chelsea is owned by the la not just people. I
(29:55):
was at the Club World Cup final the Giants Stadium
eighty one. Thou you know But what I disagree with
your comments made you guys said, was that how much
Dom Brady knows about soccer. It's not how much you know,
it's the money that talks. He has, the money he
puts up by the club. He put the best people,
they know the business and they're going to have a
(30:16):
successful operation.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Well, he doesn't have the money anywhere near the money
of these other people you're talking about. And I don't
know if you know, the Glazier family allowed people to
follow them and they go, we don't know anything about soccer,
but once, once we build up this team, we're gonna sell.
Like his pr approach to this is what we're commenting on.
(30:40):
So thank you for the phone call.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
Yes, I think Poppy said it in there because I
think everything that he says is right. He said, you
put the best people in place to make the decisions. Well,
the way that this is being presented is that we're
making the decisions. We're the guys that know how to win.
Tom is the guy who's gonna we need a new
coach because this coach isn't the right one. How the
hell does he know that they're trying to run over
tactics with him at one point, and uh, like you know,
(31:07):
it's very clear. It's like, oh so this guy needs
to stand over here. Okay, got it, got it? Like
it just doesn't it's really not translating. He's really not
connecting with the material at all. I think that it's
the more about it has nothing to do with money.
It's more about the way it's being presented as this
hands on approach to their ownership that seems wrong.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Yeah, and if you look at Wrexham, you know, Rob
and Ryan they never said they knew soccer.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
There's actually a moment in the in one of the
episodes when it's the Wrexham Birmingham game where they're all
talking about their experiences like yeah, so we own Wrexham,
Yeah we own Birmingham and they're like, oh yeah, we're
down in the locker room all the time, and they're
like Rob is like really, oh no, no.
Speaker 6 (31:49):
We don't do that.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
No, Like well, we'll be in there and be like
hey guys, all right, what's up, Like do what you do?
We're gonna go watch, but we're very hands off because
we don't know anything about the game.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
And that should be the approach of Tom is be
one of the silent owners in there. But you can
be there for your team and your community. But if
you don't know soccer, then you hire people who do
know soccer.
Speaker 7 (32:12):
Yes, Marvin, that's the funny thing. You say the same
thing about NFL owners.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Yeah, it's the guy who gets too involved where we go,
will you just be an owner? Just just being an owner.
It's when they go, you know, I'm gonna make this
draft pick. Wait what No, No, we don't want Johnny Manziel.
Yes we do. No, No, we don't know.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
Okay, all right, we won't take him.
Speaker 7 (32:33):
Yes.
Speaker 9 (32:34):
Still, there's an episode you know that show The Studio, Yeah,
where like Seth Rogan, the studio head goes to the
set and just like derail everything.
Speaker 5 (32:43):
And that's just the same version of this.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Yeah, he's in the wrong place at the wrong time,
and you know that's where you go, I'm going to
go out there on the movie set and then you
go out there and you're like, uh, what are you
doing here?
Speaker 5 (32:55):
You have no idea what you're doing, do you No?
Speaker 1 (32:59):
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Speaker 2 (33:12):
Matthew Stafford is seeing a back specialist again, hasn't practiced yet,
Micah Parsions making the trade request, and Jerry Jones says
don't lose sleep over pull question Seaton, what are we
going to go with in our three? And then we'll
talk to Brent Musburger the Hall of Famer We got
(33:33):
up there right now? Are the Dallas Cowboys a good
team to play for?
Speaker 7 (33:37):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (33:37):
Or no? Are your handsome right now?
Speaker 4 (33:40):
Eighty six percent say you want to get Yes, that
would be no. Oh they're only get They're getting fourteen
percent of low right now saying that yes, it is
a good place to play. Well, what other that's a
big number. Yes, that's a big I thought it would
be way closer than that. Yeah, especially like I don't know,
given our audience, I thought there would be a little
(34:01):
more respect for the team that way. But do you
think that that's just recency bias or do you think
that's how far the Cowboys have fallen in terms of reputation.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Well, the number of people who hate the Cowboys probably
voted as well.
Speaker 5 (34:17):
And they're not a very good team.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Well, I guess if you factor all that in, I
still think that address means something, and I look at
it differently.
Speaker 5 (34:29):
You're just you're more famous.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
I mean, Michael Parsons has a podcast because he's on
the Cowboys.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
No, it's like Draymond Green.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Nobody would care if he played in Atlanta, but he's
with Golden State and he has a pod. You know,
it just feels like there's certain addresses that mean a
little bit more, yes, Dylan.
Speaker 9 (34:49):
Well, also, I mean, based on our caller earlier too,
a lot of those votes against playing there might be
from Cowboys fans themselves too. They don't exactly seem like
thrilled on that join up.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
The moment over under is eight and a half wins
for the Cowboys this year. Let's bring in the freshly
minted Hall of Famer winner of Pro Football Hall of
Fame Pete Rosel Radio TV Award. He's Brent Musburger. Do
you feel any different after this weekend?
Speaker 16 (35:18):
You know, it was such an honor, Dan, and I
owe you so much appreciation because I wasn't even thinking
about it until you and Jim Nantz brought it up
and then Dick for Meal kind of carried the ball
from there, and so I owe so much to everybody.
Speaker 6 (35:36):
It was a It was a wonderful weekend. Dan. I
have to say that.
Speaker 16 (35:41):
I was shocked when Jane Kennedy was brought in to
introduce me okay at the banquet that night, completely unexpected.
And of course De along with Phyllis George worked on
the NFL today at IRV Cross and Jimmy the Great
James got a book out called Playing James and she's
a great story. I recommend that for it. But then
(36:04):
I want to compliment the city of Canton, Ohio. You know,
this is their biggest weekend. People were so nice in
the committee and oh, by the way, I had at
least two people mentioned Dan Patrick needs to bring his
show into Canton for the Hall of Fame. Okay, they
came right to me. I said, listen, I'll mention this Dan,
(36:25):
because we had over a hundred Hall of Famers show up.
So yes, I so appreciate the honor and so does
the family. But I was a kid in a candy
store when they started introducing all these guys that I
had covered. Dan Fouse did a fantastic job. They bring
him out to a stage and then they set a
(36:45):
couple of rows on either side and they bring out
the new Hall of Famers. And you know, the four
guys who were inducted this year had such great stories
when they came out.
Speaker 6 (36:57):
I'll start with STIRLINGE. Sharp. He was the only one
onto the floor.
Speaker 16 (37:00):
By the way, it was a first round draft choice,
so okay by the Green Day Packers. And then it
was so heartwarming when he and Shannon hugged each other
up on the stage.
Speaker 6 (37:11):
Shannon presented him with the.
Speaker 16 (37:12):
Gold jacket, first first brothers to make the Pro Football
Hall of Fame, and I couldn't resist. I got over
to Stirling. I whispered in his ear. Eli Manning will
never forgive you, you.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Know, heybet Eli to the punch there, going into the
whole bit.
Speaker 5 (37:31):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
But I don't know why it took so long. And
maybe you're not the right person to ask this, but
you're in. You're a Hall of Famer, and and I'm
very happy, you know, and a lot of this just
like with John Facenda, he was the voice of the NFL,
and I just said, don't forget about who helped us
get here to a multi multi billion dollar organization company
(37:58):
and I'm glad you got to experience that. You know,
I wish that IRV Cross had been around. You know,
Jimmy the Gree, you know, people that you were with
when you did the first pregame show. Any idea if
that was how successful that was going to be when
you started, Well.
Speaker 6 (38:14):
I liked the idea that we were going live.
Speaker 16 (38:17):
Remember now, the pregame show on CBS prior to the
NFL Today had been called Countdown to Kickoff, Pat summer
All and Jack Whittaker. They taped it on Friday night,
Friday Night, okay, and it was Bob Wessler's idea, let's
do this live, and then the halftimes in the and
the postgame there was I felt sort of an immediate impact,
(38:41):
especially when Mike Wallace strolled in about week number four
and you guys are doing great. Yeah, because I always
said having up next sixty minutes.
Speaker 6 (38:49):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
What is your favorite moment though or story that if
you know all the years.
Speaker 16 (38:58):
Well, you know, let me go to the night that
Jimmy the Greek and I had a little fist cups
in a New York saloon. Okay, let me tell everybody
Jimmy objected to the fact that he thought I.
Speaker 6 (39:11):
Cut him short.
Speaker 16 (39:12):
Everybody's got to remember we only had about twenty eight
minutes of airtime, so I had to dish it out
to everybody. Okay. So I was living in Los Angeles
at the time. I saw I was working with Connie
Chum and the news in LA and then I'd fired
for the NFL today. So I got a call the
morning after I returned to LA.
Speaker 5 (39:31):
We got a.
Speaker 6 (39:31):
Fire of the Greek.
Speaker 16 (39:32):
We're going to get rid of him. I said, hey,
hold on, let me get back to you.
Speaker 6 (39:37):
A little bit. And I I talked to my wife, Arlene.
Speaker 16 (39:40):
I said, you know, Orlean, I don't want the Greek's
blood on my hands because we had an incident.
Speaker 6 (39:44):
I mean, we're very close. I like brothers.
Speaker 16 (39:48):
So I thought about called him back, and I said,
please don't fire the Greek.
Speaker 6 (39:52):
We'll find a way. Okay. So we knew Bob Aram
the boxing guy, really well.
Speaker 16 (39:57):
And he got us a bell and a couple of
pairs boxing gloves, and we opened.
Speaker 6 (40:01):
Up the next week and made the light of it
and life went on from there. You know, It's it's
the people.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Dan.
Speaker 16 (40:11):
I just loved working with the people that we had.
Phyllis left us for a while because she thought she
was going to become an Oscar winning movie star, and
Jane Kennedy was brought in after that, and it was
such a delight. Jane was loved by the players when
she would grow up for the interviews, and then and
then Phyllis came back.
Speaker 6 (40:31):
A little bit later.
Speaker 16 (40:32):
Things didn't quite work out in Hollywood, but it was
the people that I dealt with that I.
Speaker 5 (40:36):
Loved who got the better of the fight.
Speaker 16 (40:43):
Well, the Greek hit me and decide, you know, it
wasn't a very tough blow. My brother might have got
the best of it. But the smartest guy in the
bar was the bartender, and he turned the lights off, okay,
and so nobody could see anybody. Okay, kind of calm down,
okay now. But what happened was I was at table
(41:05):
when the Greek came in, but sitting at the bar
was a guy who worked on the city desk of
the New York Post. He ran back and of course
got a bang.
Speaker 6 (41:15):
You know, there's the picture of the Greek and fillows
and you know, off, off we go.
Speaker 16 (41:20):
If he hadn't been in there having a coal one. Okay,
between shifts. I don't think anybody would have known about it,
to tell you the truth, but yeah.
Speaker 7 (41:29):
It was.
Speaker 6 (41:30):
It was on in an instant and over in an instant.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
Well, I'm happy for you. I'm proud of you. You
helped put it in my head that I could do
this or they had jobs like this when I was
growing up. But happy in any role that we possibly played.
But that was more of just to remind people the
greatness of Brent Musburger.
Speaker 5 (41:52):
So thank you. I hope it was everything that you
hoped for this weekend.
Speaker 6 (41:55):
It was and Dan, thanks to you. Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
That's the Hall of Brent Musburger twenty twenty five Pro
Football Hall of Fame inducteem And I was thinking about
this weekend and once again, Brent did all the work.
Sometimes you have to remind people of those who came
before us. Kurt Flood is not in the Baseball Hall
of Fame. Kurt Flood is the reason why you have
(42:21):
the salaries that we have. He challenged Major League Baseball.
It cost him, but he was willing to sit out
because he didn't think that he should be treated like
a piece of property. And Kurt Flood was one of
the great defensive outfielders played for a World Series champion.
Speaker 5 (42:44):
He was a very good player.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
But I started to think about the contributions to the game,
and I love that aspect with Hall of Fames, just
like John Facenda and Brent Musburger and so many different
people in certain Halls of Fame that they contributed to
the growth of the game. Kurt Flood is one of
the most Oh boy, I don't even know if there's
(43:07):
word or words courageous to take on Major League Baseball
and say no, you don't own my rights after I'm
done with your team or done playing. It just felt
like he said, I'm not a piece of meat here.
But when you think about the importance, why isn't he
(43:29):
in the Baseball Hall of Fame as a contributor Like
Buck O'Neil played in the negro leagues, and Buck lived
long enough to be able to tell everybody about these
great players who played in the negro leagues so they
could get into the Hall of Fame. And I said,
to somebody with the Baseball Hall of Fame, I said,
(43:50):
Buck O'Neil is a Hall of Famer. He was a
very good player, but contributions to the game. Buck O'Neil
was the one who was there with eulogies, your career eulogy.
He was telling everybody about these players so they could
get into the Hall of Fame. Those who didn't get
to see those in the negro leagues. I said, that's
(44:13):
contributions to the game. Kurt Flood deserves to be in
the Baseball Hall of Fame. It's in the Cardinals Hall
of Fame, I believe. But Kurt Flood, he wasn't afraid.
He took on the system. Yeah, Marvin so.
Speaker 7 (44:29):
Was Kurt Flood on the same level as Sonny Vvicaro
to you.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
Uh no, different. Sonny Vaccaro should be in the basketball
Hall of Fame. But Kurt Flood what he did that
was for all of the players to be treated differently.
Sonny just found a loophole and said, hey, I can
sell shoes and make money for the coaches, make money,
you know, for the players. You know, that was business.
(44:54):
But he contributed to the game and signing Michael Jordan,
and signing Kobe Bryant and almost sign Lebron Jay. You know,
he was involved in the movers and shakers. But different,
but contributions to the Kurt Flood truly contributed to the game.
I mean, you would not show. Hey, Otani may not
(45:15):
have any idea who Kurt Flood is, but he should
and I would hope maybe Baseball can rectify that and
put him into the Baseball Hall of Fame. And I've
gotten on this kick as I get older, and really
my time of doing this job is diminishing. But Barry
Melrose in the Hockey Hall of Fame, Don Cherry in
(45:36):
the Hockey Hall of Fame, Sonny Vaccaro in the Basketball
Hall of Fame, mel kiper in the Pro Football Hall
of Fame, Kurt Flood in the Baseball Hall of Fame.
To me, these are no brainers. And I don't envy
those who vote on the Hall of Fame. I just
want to remind you and any of you voters that
(45:57):
ever want to talk about why I think this way,
or if I can add any kind of backdrop, I'll
be more than happy to do it. And I don't
have any other interest in it than telling the correct
story and doing the right things for these people. But
Kurt Flood should be in the Baseball Hall of Fame
as a contributor. Maybe you don't put him in there
(46:20):
as a player, I understand that, but contributions to the game.
And if you're not familiar with Kurt Flood, please google
him and understand what he did and at the end
of his career, sacrificed his career so players could become
free agents. And I remember Andy Messersmith, he was the
(46:41):
first free agent in baseball history. Now we take it
for granted now it's normal, but it wasn't then major
League Baseball. He was Boie Kune was the commissioner. It
was Booie Kune v. Kurt Flood, and Kurt Flood eventually
won
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