August 5, 2025 • 49 mins
DP reacts to Shedeur Sanders' comments on wanting to earn having his father come to watch him practice. Former NFL QB Chris Simms previews Arch Manning's season at the helm at Texas and gives his sleeper NFL teams for the upcoming season. And newly inducted Pro Football Hall of Fame WR Sterling Sharpe reflects on induction day and shares what it was like having his career cut short from a neck injury.
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in no particular order, talking quarterbacks today, but also backup
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quarterbacks as well, the Cleveland Browns, I believe, have six
quarterbacks in their quarterback room. There's a chance they keep
four to start the season. And the reason why I
bring this up, it's for a variety of reasons, but
I think the most important one is your backup quarterback
situation with the Rams with Matthew Stafford. They got Jimmy Garoppolo.
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That's a high end backup. I mean, you got a
backup who started in the Super Bowl. We don't know
the severity of Matthew Stafford. It feels like it's day
to day with the back issues there. But this is
a team that can challenge to win the NFC. They're
that talented and it might come down to Matthew Stafford's health.
And if that's the case, Jimmy Garoppolo, how much does
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he play? Stetson Bentett is the backup to the backup.
But look at some of these situations around the NFL,
and you need to have if you're a really good team,
you kind of have to have a really good backup
because if your starter goes down, you don't want the
season to go down as well. But we'll talk about
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that coming up. And the Cleveland Browns brought in Tyler Hunting. Now,
if you look at the headlines, it's Brown's bring in
former Pro Bowl Pro bowler Tyler Hunting, and I went, well, okay,
wait a minute.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Now.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
The reality is he made the Pro Bowl in twenty
twenty two. His stats this year two touchdown passes, three
interceptions and rushing for one hundred and thirty seven yards.
The Pro Bowl used to mean something, and he did
a pretty good job with Lamar Jackson's absence when he
was with Baltimore, and he's a solid backup. But you're
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going to the Cleveland Browns and you already have a
quarterback heavy room. When you have that many quarterbacks, you
don't have a quarterback. Joe Flacco's age, the inexperience of
Shadoor Sanders and Dylan Gabriel, and then the curiosity of
Kenny Pickett. They're all injured, but not you know, serious injuries,
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but you still have nagging injuries and you're trying to
get everybody enough reps. It feels like it's Joe Flacco's
job to lose from what I'm told, But I thought
at the beginning Kenny Pickett was going to be the
number one guy. Flacco the backup, and then you're going
to have to figure out if you're keeping three or
four quarterbacks with Shadoor Sanders and Dylan Gabriel. Now you
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bring in Tyler Hunting as well, but I think that's
because you know you've got.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
A preseason game coming up.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
I think this Friday, you got to have somebody play
in the position who's healthy enough. And that might be
the case there, but we'll look at some of the
other backup quarterback situations here and the importance speaking of
what Chris Sims, who was a backup quarterback for a
portion of his NFL career, will join us as well.
The college football rankings came out. It's Texas, Ohio State,
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Penn State, Georgia, Notre Dame, Clemson, Oregon, and Alabama. And
we were wondering, when's the last time you had the
two top teams in the country meeting to open up
the season. This is the first time it's happened in
the history of college football. And you go back to
the ap Poles started in nineteen thirty six, the Coaches
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Poll started in nineteen fifty. We've never had number one
versus two in Week one, and if you're going to
ease into the season, not exactly doing that. If you're
arch Manning. We're going to get a really good idea
about arch Manning on the road against Ohio State to
open up the season. Well, this isn't you know Louisiana, Louisiana,
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Monroe or Mercer or any of those schools. It's you're
playing the Ohio State at Ohio State.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
The defending national champions. Yes, going into Columbus ranked number one.
For really, what is your first game? That's you can
already see the hero or zero storylines for arch Manning.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Here's another thing that I found interesting. I find this
college football season to be wide open. I think the
voters felt that way too, because you have Texas, Ohio State,
and Penn State, and they all got double digit votes
to be the best team in the country at least
to start out. We'll talk about this second ten. I
think that's what's interesting. These are sort of the usuals,
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the usual suspects. I like Clemson a lot more than
I probably thought I was going to Oregon's in there,
Alabama at ten, Notre Dames in there, Georgia, so Penn State,
Ohio State, Texas, and it should be a fun season.
I don't know when we're adding four more teams to
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the playoffs. It's probably next year. But once again, it's
gray area there. It's just like the NCAA Tournament more madness.
I was told two weeks ago, get ready for a
decision if they're going to expand or be status quo.
Well we finally got around to that yesterday where they
said they're not going to expand March madness, which I
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think is really good. I would like them to take
away some of these bids of the opportunity. I'd like
get reduced a little bit more, but that's not going
to happen. We always add, we never subtract. And if
you're at sixty eight, I do think we'll eventually get
to seventy two. And I'm told you might get to
seventy six as well before the end of this decade.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Yes, Marvin, sorry, are my eyes deceiving me?
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Texas at Ohio State August.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Thirtieth, noon, Yeah, yeah, oh wow, big noon kickoffs?
Speaker 4 (06:44):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Ohio State. I think has got a lot of noon kickoffs.
I don't think they're too play I think Ryan days
to please with the big noon kickoff there, but all
eyes will be on that. You would think that's a
Saturday night type game, right, yeah, Ston.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
But you might be if you're say Texas and arch Manning,
you might love Just wake up, get to the field,
get the game over with.
Speaker 6 (07:11):
You're not sitting around all day waiting to go all
right here.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
Here, okay, stay LuSE gotta the just get the game,
let's play.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
I was watching the nineteen eighty three NFL Draft, the
John Lway Draft and Dan Marino. I was watching the
thirty for thirty last night. That took place in the morning.
I think it started at eight am and at noon.
Now I'm there. I met the Mary Atte Marquis and
you had to be upstairs to look down upon the draft.
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And I don't remember if how many players were there.
I don't remember players being there. I remember running into
John Madden, but it was just when you think about showcasing,
you usually wait and you want it out. You want to,
you know, put it on the best time slot. The
NFL Draft, I think started at eight am and ended at.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Noon that day. All right, see what's pull question today?
Speaker 5 (08:11):
Well, we probably got a gajillion of them off of
the college football list there. That's a lot that one
exactly one gajillion. Yes, we also have a couple of
options from the t DUB you're interested in those, such as,
if you're a pro athlete, are there any circumstances where
you'd want your parent at training camp?
Speaker 6 (08:29):
Yes or no?
Speaker 2 (08:29):
All right, well, this is a Shadoor Sanders talking about
why he doesn't want Dion Sanders at training camp.
Speaker 7 (08:38):
I don't want him come in to see me right
now because I want to get to where I want
to go in for him to see me now, I
don't want him to come and see me.
Speaker 8 (08:46):
You know, get a couple of reptions.
Speaker 7 (08:47):
You know, he's cheering like a good dad, like, nah,
you can't be proud of me right now. I gotta
get to where I'm going, and I know it's a
lot I gotta do to get there. So it's kind
of like I just want everything that I'm doing is
just like focus on this time.
Speaker 8 (09:00):
I mean, I don't want to know distraction because we
know out of media, we know how everybody would.
Speaker 7 (09:04):
Take it and take away from the team just from
him being my own dad sowing up.
Speaker 8 (09:09):
So you know, it's a gift that occurs at the
same time.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
It's a great answer, and by all accounts, he has
been what they thought he was going to be. Now
I know we've had the speeding tickets. By all accounts though,
how he handles himself with the veterans when he's in
camp that he has put in the time and he
realizes he's a rookie, he is not looking for expecting
preferential treatment. And once again, this is somebody with the
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Browns who said this, and this was somebody who didn't
think they should have drafted Shador Sanders, because if you
really wanted him, and you want to send the message
you really want him, you would have drafted him earlier.
It felt like a I don't know, let's just take
him after you take Dylan Gabriel. Now that's aside from
the point of him looking at him and saying he's
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done what you've wanted, expected, hoped for and coming to
camp would be a spectacle. It would lead Sports Center,
it would be a big big deal. Should Or is
trying to earn this job, and it's tougher because he
is should Or Sanders. Does it open doors, yes. Do
you get a lot of attention publicity, yes, but more
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eyes are on you. They want to know can you
play the position at a high level? And I think
what he said is, Dad, let me wait till I'm
an NFL quarterback. Let me wait till I'm the starter here,
then if you want to come to camp. Dion did
go to Shiloh Sanders. He's with Tampa Bay. I think
he was undrafted free agent. But I think he has
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a chance to make the team. But it has to
be a little bit awkward though, if I'm a coach
and Dion's in town and all of a sudden, you know, man,
how Shiloh doing. Hey, peg puts.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
In the work.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Hey, you know he's got a chance. Like you kind
of have to say something nice. It's like when you
go to a parent teacher conference when your kid is
young and you know that she's a problem in class,
but they go, well, you know, she's interesting, she's got
good spirit there. You know, they try to tell you
something positive there. But Shiloh may make the roster in
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Tampa Bay and maybe the Cleveland Browns keep four quarterbacks
even though they got six in there.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Now, Yes, Tod, And.
Speaker 9 (11:23):
Why would you want any hint at all or appearance
of preferential treatment that's not to say that any head
coach at GM because Deon's there, is gonna treat you
nicer or give you a better chance to be a
starter or get more reps. But just the look of that,
you don't want anyone to even be whispering that among
your teammates are Dion's here, he's gotting.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Well, this is different. This is the NFL. This isn't
a Dion's here. We're gonna start you. That's not happening.
This is a meritocracy.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Are you good?
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Can you be the starter on this team? Can we
win games with you? Like all of those things. It's
not Dion's here, we're gonna put you in. Or this
happened to me with one of my daughters playing basketball.
I showed up, and you know, my daughter wasn't good,
but the coach then gave my daughter more playing time.
I pulled him to the side and I said, hey, coach,
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it's okay if Grace is on the bench, I'm fine
with that. He goes, okay, all right. I just didn't
want you to come out. And then she didn't play.
I go, no, No, she had to earn it. Don't
worry about that. Yeah, laughing. It's like the first dad
to argue for less playing time. I did, well, I
know how that feels.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Hey, coach, I gotta talk to you, way too much
time on the ice.
Speaker 6 (12:37):
Could you just play him a little less?
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Please? Thank you?
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
I might have had that conversation with my son's coach.
You know, Hey, you don't have to play him because
I'm here. You don't have to. I mean, if he
gets in, great, but you don't have to play. The
national title odds Ohio State and Texas have the same
exact odds. Then it's Penn State and Georgia with the
same odds, Clemson, Alabama the same odds, Oregon and Notre Dame.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
With the same odds.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
College football starts in a couple of weeks, so get
ready for that. Any other pole questions that you're talking
about there, Seaton, Well, I'm trying to.
Speaker 6 (13:14):
Come up with one just based off of that.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
Do you think the say, national champion this year in
college football will come from those top.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
Three seeds or other?
Speaker 5 (13:27):
I do think it's interesting that Texas, Ohio State, and
Penn State all have like double Penn State has fourteen first.
Speaker 6 (13:34):
Place votes and they're in third.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
Yeah, Ohio State has twenty and Texas is twenty eight.
That's kind of it's not exactly even, but it's closer
than it feels like normally happens in those three spots.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
I would probably go with other because of a twelve
team playoff, and it feels like not parody, but it
feels like there's a pretty sizable group that's talented enough
to win. But you know, it goes back to when
you think of March Madness. You got to win six
games to win the national title. You got to win
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more games here in a playoff setting to win the
national title. It isn't season ends. It's one versus two,
or you have a fourteen playoff. Now we have twelve,
and there's always that chance somebody is going to play
their best football and knock you off, or you don't
play your best and you know you're vulnerable in an upset.
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But I probably take the rest of the field if
I gave you Ohio State, Texas, Penn State.
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Speaker 4 (15:16):
Did we decide on the poll question?
Speaker 6 (15:18):
Uh, yeah, we're gonna go with.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
This year's national champions will be either Texas, Ohio State,
Penn State, or other other Yes.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Well I know where Chris Sims will lean, the former
Texas Longhorn Pro Football Talk Live co host contributor to
Football Night in America. The Longhorns, open up with the
Ohio State. We're going to get a really good idea
about arch manning. I guess that first week there your
thoughts on that matchup, and I love that we're starting
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out with something that has some weight to it, that
means something to it. But I'm with you on the
road at Ohio State to open up your season.
Speaker 11 (15:57):
Yeah, I mean it's awesome, especially where I think a
lot of people thought maybe last year that semi final
matchup was the national championship game. I'm not trying to
disrespect Notre Dame or anything like that. They hit a
phenomenal gear. I mean, yeah on the road week one
and another aspect I like about it, like, yeah, you're
gonna have one verse two two heavyweights, and you know,
like the old days, Dan, it was like, oh man,
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whoever loses their season's over.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
They can't win the national championship.
Speaker 11 (16:23):
That's changed, So that to me makes college football a
whole lot better. But how can you not be excited
about the Longhorns, right, I mean, from all my understanding,
the world was crazy last year and they were losing
their mind that Ohio State was spending twenty million on
their football team. What's Texas close to this year? Almost
forty million?
Speaker 8 (16:42):
Right? Yeah.
Speaker 11 (16:42):
They do everything big down in Texas, that's for sure.
And they're pumped about arch Manning. I know that from
talking to people firsthand down there. I think they one
of the reasons they kind of like maybe pushed Quinn
Eewers out the door was because of the potential, the
talent of Arch Manning and where he can bring the
team and you know, the whole program as itself, because
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you know, even the Longhorns are as famous and as
awesome as they are. You have a quarterback like Arch Manning,
He's in the Heisman conversation, You're the number one team
in the country. Man, you might not have to pay
all these guys as much to even come there after that,
because everybody's gonna want to jump on the bandwagon.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Okay, Arch Manning Heisman Trophy candidate, one of the top ones.
Probably if he was coming out after this year, the
projections would be he would be a high pick, right right, right?
Okay is it because how much is this is Arch
Manning as opposed to Arch Johnson.
Speaker 11 (17:39):
Well, oh, I hear what you're saying. Well, yeah, I
mean the Manning name helps that a little bit. It
makes everybody feel warm and cozy. You go, wait, wait,
this is in his DNA. He knows what to expect
as far as football and what it's in. You know
what it takes to be good at that on a
day to day business, on a day to day basis.
It's the family business. So yeah, this does that add
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a little bit more of you know, comfort level to
evaluators and stuff like that. Sure does. The names in
his family also maybe boost him up there. People just
to go, well, they were good. I think he'll be
good too. Sure, but I don't think you get to
this point with arch Manning. And I experienced this too
as Chris Sims. Oh oh, you're only here because you're
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Phil Simson. Oh yeah, I mean, do you know anybody
else my age that could throw the football like me?
Speaker 4 (18:26):
No, you don't.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
That's why I'm here.
Speaker 11 (18:28):
Okay, right, so there, at some point it has to
become like the rubber hits the road and whoa arch
Manning maybe runs four five. Oh wow, he's got a
pretty quick release. Oh he's got a strong arm and
can really spin the ball. So I think there's enough
proof in the putting pudding there to justify where he's at.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
Hey got a little defensive there, didn't you.
Speaker 11 (18:49):
Well yeah, I just I know, I know what you're saying,
and I'm not defensive at all. I just you know,
when I get into that mode, I start, you know,
getting into like my fake Phil Simms voice and start
doing that.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
A little bit.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
We were talking about backup quarterbacks. The Browns have added
Tyler Huntley. There you got four quarterbacks, which means you
don't have one quarterback. And in today's NFL, what's the
likelihood that you can carry four quarterbacks on the roster.
Speaker 11 (19:15):
Very unlikely. I mean it's rare that they keep three's.
That's where this whole thing is odd. And maybe they
will keep four. I don't know. And again, the word
I've kind of used with the Browns and all that
is just to you know, and I say this even
with the Dallas Cowboys with their bad contracts, team building, right, yo,
the value of the quarterback. He's an asset. Oh yeah,
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that's great. Oh, teams need quarterbacks there, they're at a
premium all that. Ooh, our analytics say to take them here.
But what about the human aspect of like, oh, like
the Schador Sanders conversation is going to overtake your franchise.
And every day I get a statistical update on Instagram
or whatever else telling me how they all did all
because of Schador Sanders.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
So it's just a weird situation altogether.
Speaker 11 (20:01):
I feel bad for him in the situations he's in.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
But the Browns are in a weird spot.
Speaker 11 (20:07):
I would have gone into last week Dan going, I
don't know what they're gonna do. I was thinking, like, Okay,
Kenny Pickett, they're gonna keep him because hey, he's still young.
He did have some good moments in Pittsburgh. There's still
maybe some untapped potential. You see what you got there.
You keep Shador, you keep Dylan Gabriel because you're not
gonna be able to put them on the practice squad.
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I don't think they'll clear.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Waivers in a twenty four hour period.
Speaker 11 (20:30):
Some team will snag them and take them, so you're
gonna have to keep them on the roster. I was
kind of in the boat of I think Joe Flacco
will be the odd man out if things stayed status quo.
You know what he is. He's older, he's not exactly
mister take care of the football all the time. And
that's where I thought. But now we got the Kenny
Pickett hamstring injury. Now we got a Dylan Gabriel hamstring injury.
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Shadoor Sanders was dealing with a little arm issue this
past weekend, and now I don't know what to think.
The hell is gonna happen up in there? And yeah,
they might be forced to keep Joe Flacco and figure
out some other creative ways to keep all four of
these guys.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
Dan, How often do teams tank in the NFL?
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Not very often, right.
Speaker 11 (21:13):
The problem is the front office might tell the coaches
or whatever else, hey, play, these guys do all this.
You know, we want to keep this guy out because
we don't want to pay him guaranteed money if he
gets hurt after the year and all that.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
So the front office and ownership might try.
Speaker 11 (21:31):
To set it up to hey, I hope we don't
win the game, but damn, it's hard to make the
coaches and players buy into that. I mean, you know,
put yourself in some guy's shoe. Oh I'm the second stringer.
They're trying to tank the game. I don't care. This
is the first time all year I get to get
out here, put film for my future job another team.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Blah blah blah. I'm going all out.
Speaker 11 (21:50):
And more times than not, the teams that do that,
the coaches are like, wait, it looks like they might
fire me this year.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
The hell with them. I'm going to coach great this.
Speaker 11 (21:58):
Week all Jurra May Week eighteen last year, screwing over
the New England Patriots. Right, So yeah, that's where it's
hard to just full out tank. Maybe to the same
extent some of the other sports can pull it off,
it's a little different in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Chris Sims, Pro Football Talk Live co host you'll see
him on Football Night in America's podcast is called Unbuttoned,
former NFL college quarterback. The Rams situation I find really
intriguing because it feels like there's season which could be
a Super Bowl season is hinging on Matthew Stafford. Right now,
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you do have Jimmy Garoppolo, but this is a team
that went toe to toe with the Eagles in Philadelphia
last year, and I don't see and you know why
they shouldn't be considered one of the favorites for the
NFC again this year. But what like a back injury
that's day to day or now it's been week to
week here, right, what are we looking at with Matthew
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Stafford in the RAM.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
It's a little concerning, but I'm not like overly concerned yet.
Speaker 11 (23:00):
Good thing is they do have a Jimmy Garoppolo, and
I do think he could get you through two, three,
four games. But let's not get it messed up. Jimmy
Garoppo eight, Matthew Stafford. Stafford is special, and yeah, he
makes them a super Bowl team with all the things
they got around him. I'm with you in that conversation, Dan,
I mean, they are a super Bowl team. They had
the Eagles on the ropes like you talked about. I mean,
(23:20):
I was sitting there on the field watching it.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
It happen.
Speaker 11 (23:22):
They got everything you need, coaches, young talent, playmakers, quarterback,
all of it.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
I won't be concerned. Well, you we heard McVeigh yesterday.
Speaker 11 (23:31):
They say, I think you know, he's maybe about ten
days away. To me, that's encouraging. That means that they're
feeling like it's going in the right direction to where
he could practice. But if we get to like August twentieth,
August twenty third, and we're still still dealing with this,
I'd be a little like, oh man, I don't know that. Yeah,
that's a little worrisome. Hey, the lower back back is
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a pain in the butt for a thrower of the football.
Tony Romo, damn, he had to retire because of it.
Troy Aikman had to retire because of it. My dad
had a little issues it happens because of that torking
you do as a quarterback all the time, over and
over and over, and sometimes your feet are in awkward
spots and you still tork And that's where they got
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to be careful on that. They just got to make
sure it goes away, because it's one of those things
when you're lower back and you go, oh, I'm about
ninety five percent. I think I can go out there
today and do it. The first time he throws a
few lasers, he goes, oh, I'm back to sixty five percent,
And this is one you gotta make sure you do
your due diligence, make sure it's wiped away so that
he can get after it. But we know, man, this
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is one of the damn toughest quarterbacks we've seen. I
expect him to be out there Week one ready to
go more threatening.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Rams are Chargers.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Oooh, I would say the I will go with the Rams.
Speaker 8 (24:43):
Ok.
Speaker 11 (24:44):
The Chargers are threatening, no question, And I got to
see them in person, and there's a real vibe in
that team and belief.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
But that AFC West, we know how good it is.
Speaker 11 (24:54):
I think it's arguably the greatest coaches in one division
in the history of football, if not definitely the greatest
coaches in one division. We know Mahomes is there. I
do think the Dan Broncos are real, right. We heard
Sean Payton say that the other day. I think the
Broncos are a team that like, Okay, people talking about playoffs,
but I think ours kind of a.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Sneaky Super Bowl contender, contender.
Speaker 11 (25:15):
One of the best defenses in football only got better
with the two forty nine ers they signed in free agency.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Bo Nick's second year Evan Ingram at tight end.
Speaker 11 (25:24):
I'd say, ooh, that's gonna be a nice addition for
Sean Payton and this RJ. Harvey they got in the
second round oft of Central Florida, I think has a
chance to be a real special player. So I put
Denver maybe a notch up above the Chargers as far
as that team that could surprise people and disrupt some
of the matchups we'd like to see in the AFC playoffs.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
When does it become a concern to you, as a
former player now analyst, with what's happening with Micaeh Parsons.
At what point you know in this month, would you
then you start to have some real concerns.
Speaker 11 (25:57):
I already have concerns, like I made the comment yesterday
with Florio on Pro Football Talk, like you know, circus
doesn't translate to Super Bowl, right. The football gods, they
can't look upon this and go, oh, this is the
way you handle a football team. The way they do
contracts is ridiculous. It costs them with having to pay
They could have got Michael Parsons for thirty four to
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thirty five million dollars last year. Now they're gonna have
to pay more than forty one. They should forty three
forty four. And those are two or three players on
your football team. When you add that up to Dak
Prescott and Ceedee Lamb, and how they drag their feet
on all of that. But let alone like the owner
taking kind of like what cheap shots to a degree,
i'd Michael Parsons all his back's out there. This is contracts.
(26:42):
Oh he missed six games last year when he really
missed four. Right, They put out things like you know, oh, god,
she's a little bit of a pain in the butt
in the building, Like really, he could kick cowboy.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
Hit buy a car when he said that. I mean exactly.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
There's just been too many weird messaging.
Speaker 11 (26:58):
Michael Parsons has handled it like a true pro been
there been, trying to be selfless, trying to be a
good leader. And then also the other part of it
that I can't stand Dan is like Jerry Jones, I
don't want the agent there, No crap, you don't want
the agent there, Jerry, this is your wheelhouse doing business deals.
I mean that's like meg, Hey, Jerry gets some shoulder
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pads of a helmet and do a tackling drill against
Michael Parsons. That's like, it's like an equal conversation there,
not fair right, let alone against the bylaws of the
NFL and the CBA.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
So it is a distraction. They can say what they want.
Speaker 11 (27:31):
And I'm getting to the point where I think Micah
is gonna maybe have to play hardball and maybe he
has to start having a press conference like Jerry does
every few days and let everybody know what's really going on.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
The Bengals situation kind of tapered off because of Micah
Parsons and the Cowboys getting all the oxygen in the room.
Speaker 11 (27:50):
Right.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
This a Bengal team that's all in on offense. But
you know, having an eyewitness who's watched the Bengals practice
twice and he said, defensive, they're in trouble.
Speaker 11 (28:02):
I mean, they weren't a good defense last year. There's
not really a whole lot of Marquee household names on
the defense to make you think, oh wow, it's gonna
drastically turn around. Their biggest thing is they got Al
Golden and the new defensive coordinator there, right, and hopefully
he can be creative schematically to give them some advantages.
(28:23):
And I'm not shocked too to hear that it's not
going great for them at times. Right they are learning
a new defense, and damn you gotta go against Joe Burrow,
Chase and Higgins every day like we saw last year
that I don't care what defense you are, it's hard
to stop that crew right there. But man, it does
seem like there's gonna be a lot of pressure on
that offense. The Trey Hendrickson thing, not only did they
need him as a leader and he's the best player
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on their defense. To me, it's twofold in the fact
that the kid they drafted in the first round, Shamar Stewart,
he's got superstar potential, but he's raw, he's simple. He
doesn't do any pass rushes moves. He just is like,
I just go that way and that's all I do.
So you're hurting his development by not having Trey hendrickson
there as well.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
So yeah, hopefully they can get that ironed out.
Speaker 11 (29:07):
Because man, when you watch Joe Burrow and company and
they're good and the AFC against of course Mahomes and
Lamar and Josh Allen, man, that just doesn't get any
better than that.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Do we give Joe Burrow a hall pass because he
beat Mahomes in Kansas City to go to the super Bowl?
But after that, I mean you're looking at not getting
to the playoffs a few years, right, even performance in
the play like I don't know.
Speaker 11 (29:37):
I well, you know, he had them on the ropes
right the next year in the AFC Championship game and
they got the late hit out of Mounds on Mahomes
right where He's kind of like, oh man, it feels
like Cincinnati's about to pull this off.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
So that happens. Injury has been an issue.
Speaker 11 (29:52):
I think the fact that the Bengals do things dysfunctionally
does like maybe give him a somewhat of a free
pass to your point there, But you know all in all,
two years ago, they were hot late in the year
and he hurt his wrist. Injury has been his biggest
kryptonite last year. I don't know what else you can do, right,
(30:13):
I mean, damn his thirty points every game. He just
going up and down the field, throwing for two hundred
and eighty yards every game, three touchdowns. He carried the
team as much as you've seen anybody carry the team.
So no, I don't think we give him a free pass.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
I don't.
Speaker 11 (30:27):
Hey, we got Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson are all time
greats in my opinion.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
They haven't even gotten to the Super Bowl yet.
Speaker 11 (30:34):
They haven't even been able to beat that guy Mahomes
one time yet in these damn playoff games or anything
like that.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
So that's one to me.
Speaker 11 (30:41):
One of the cool storylines of the year is can
Lamar and Josh Allen his talent and as awesome a
quarterbacks as I've ever seen in my life have yet
to be to a Super Bowl. Could this be the year?
I don't know, but yeah, it's pretty unreal with the
quarterbacks in the AFC, and I think Joe Burrow is
truly phenomenal.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Okay, give me the team that you like, sneaky team
that you like.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Okay, all right, sneaky team. All right.
Speaker 11 (31:07):
So here's one that I don't think a team gets
put en up in the in the super Bowl window.
I think the Houston Texans are going to be one
of those teams this year that I'll just say that.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
I know they're not sneaking up on anybody.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
As far as playoffs, Well, they jumped off the bandwagon
last year, right.
Speaker 11 (31:21):
I think, And I think a lot of that had
to do with the offensive coordinator and some of the
issues there. The defense is awesome, that's not even you know, disputable.
Nico Collins was hurt a bunch last year. They lost
Stefan Diggs, their pass protection was pitiful.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
I think they'll be better at receiver, and I think
you'll see CJ.
Speaker 11 (31:39):
Stroud have more of a hand in the pass protection
this year. So I would put them in that super
Bowl window or they're a little underrated in my opinion.
I think another the New England Patriots are of course
the other team i'd look at to go watch out.
It just seems like between that coaching staff, they one
of the teams that won the offseason where i'd go.
(32:01):
We are sitting here late December, going man New England.
If they win this week, they could go to the playoffs.
I would not be shocked by that at all. That's
one and one more I'll though to you. The Jets
have the talent to surprise people. Look at youth. People
are overlooking it. But they got some talent. I mean
they do. And I believe in Aaron Glenn and I
don't think they're gonna make it all about the quarterback.
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They're gonna run the ball, They're gonna play defense. There'll
be a pain in the butt. But I think my
leader there would probably be New England and one of
those teams that you're talking about as far as that
just really jumps out and surprises us.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
Good stuff, good stuff.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
I like you fired up. I gotta I gotta get
you defensive to start out.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
And when am I not fired up? I don't know.
You tell me, you.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Know, because you know your dad. Little nepotism. And then yeah, yeah.
Speaker 11 (32:51):
Hey, tell those jerks you got on the show with you.
I said, hi, right, oh, I said hi, woll I'm
fired up?
Speaker 2 (32:56):
All right, Hey hey jerks. Chris Sims says, hello, thank you, Chris.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
All right, Dan always good being on.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Thanks guys, Chris Simms, Pro Football Talk Live co host.
You'll find him with Mike Florio. The show that precedes
ours and the Jerks is a little rough, all right.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
A little rough.
Speaker 5 (33:15):
I are used to that now, That's kind of our relationship. Okay, right,
let me.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Take a break. When we come back. Play of the Day.
Seaton gives us his review of the next two episodes
of Tom Brady. The first two episodes didn't go well
for the five part series. It is a five part series.
We were wondering about Tom's character arc in the documentary.
Maybe the reviews are a little better today than they
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were yesterday.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
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Search FSR to listen live. He somehow forgot about us yesterday.
I didn't know that was possible. He's the freshly minted
Hall of Famer Sterling Sharp, the former Packer wide receiver.
(34:04):
How does that happen that you forget about us yesterday?
When you kept saying, Hey, I'm there for you.
Speaker 8 (34:11):
I was there for you in spirit.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
Oh your.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Yeah, Now you're a Hall of Famer and uh lois song.
Speaker 8 (34:20):
No, I would never blow my guy up.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
You know what you want? You know I do, go
ahead say it.
Speaker 8 (34:29):
No, man, do not make me say it.
Speaker 4 (34:35):
Okay, Uh what do you got on there? What are
you wearing?
Speaker 2 (34:40):
My brothers our logo for eighty eighty four? Oh, I'm sorry? Wow,
the four for the four is a little bigger. Yes,
that's what we wanted eighty eighty four.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
Not for you, that is.
Speaker 8 (34:56):
Yet.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Keep up, Dan, keep up. How did it take so
long for you to get into the Hall of Fame?
Speaker 8 (35:03):
I honestly don't know, and I don't think it took
long enough. I think I could have waited another two
hundred years, Dan, I didn't play football to get into
the Hall of Fame. I played football because I loved
the game. And you know, I wasn't waiting, you know,
me and you were playing a lot of golf while
I wasn't in the Hall of Fame back in the day.
(35:25):
So I was just golfing my ball, enjoying myself.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Was there ever a point where you thought I'm not
going to get in?
Speaker 8 (35:34):
No, there was never a point where I thought I
would get in or wouldn't get in. I never thought
about it. I just I never thought about it because
you know, the thing is is I played, and I
played really well. For me. I enjoyed how I played,
what I put on film, the people I played with,
and that was enough for me. So I never, you know,
(35:54):
wanted to have an advocate for me, you know, I
push the envelope or remind them that I'm I'm out here. No,
I just I did what I wanted to do, and
I was enjoying being at the Hall of Fame in
twenty eleven when my brother would take me back to
the injury, which part the part that we found out
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in high school, and I could have played one play
or I could still be playing. The worst episode on
the field was probably against the Atlanta Falcons, but I
had had twenty thirty episodes over the years based on
my vertebrae and my spine were getting real close together,
(36:37):
laying on the field, having Andre rise and make me laugh,
and my friend teammate from South Carolina, Brad Edwards, coming
over to make sure I was okay. There's a lot
of moving parts to my injury then, and the thing
was is there was only two people that were happier
than me when my career ended, and that was the
(36:58):
two doctors that said I should never play football again.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Oh well, but if you played now, there's nothing there's
no technology that if you got this injury now, would
have enabled you to continue to play.
Speaker 8 (37:12):
Well. The thing is is my neck at the time
it got fixed was probably stronger than anyone else's neck.
International Football League. But you're talking about life, liberty and
the pursuit of happiness, and you have to ask yourself,
am I willing to take that chance? You know? Am
I willing to go out there and have everything in
this fusion? Do I want to put it to the test?
(37:35):
I didn't. I did Like you know, if I felt
like I left something, then I probably would have tried
to continue to play. But I didn't. I didn't leave
anything in football. I didn't. I did what I wanted
to do. A lot of people are having a hard
time with that statement. I did what I wanted to do,
(37:55):
which was just play. Not play in a Super Bowl,
not be a Hall of Famer, not be an All
Pro player, not lead the league in said category. I
just wanted to play, and I got to do that
for seven years and that was good enough for me.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
What was your first thoughts when you laid eyes on
Brett Favre.
Speaker 8 (38:16):
Had I had seen Mark Wilson, Randy Wright, but Keys,
Mike Nor said, Mike Tom Zach, Anthony Gilwig, Don Makowski,
and they were all really good friends of mine. They
were all good players, they were in the National Football League.
But when I first saw him, there was nothing that
(38:37):
he did set or that would allow you to think
that he was going to turn out to be what
he turned out to be.
Speaker 4 (38:45):
And what do you mean by that?
Speaker 8 (38:47):
He was just another guy. You know, if you brought
in a quarterback from Atlanta, you gave up whatever you
gave up for. Okay, you know, Mike Congreen is our
new coach. We got a new system, We got a
bunch of new moving parts, and he is one of
the new moving parts. So not knowing him or his background,
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he was just another moving part. And you know, it's
just like, and I've been saying this all week, I said,
I understand what Michael Jordan felt like being in the triangle.
I understand what the late Kobe Bryant felt like being
in the triangle. I understand what Steph Curry feels like
being in the triangle. The great player doesn't have to change,
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and the triangle or the West Coast offense and football
for us, I didn't have to change. And it fit
him perfectly. Because he had a little stronger arm than
Joe Montana, he could fit it in places. But he
had the fearlessness of Steve Young, I like to say,
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and him in that system with his arm really made
it work for me.
Speaker 4 (39:58):
What did it feel like to catch a ball from
farv A lot.
Speaker 8 (40:02):
Of people like to think he threw hard, and I didn't.
I thought he threw you know, which allowed me to
cheat because I could kind of, you know, once the
ball got here, I could kind of turn away and
find out where contact was so I can get yards
after the catch. But I enjoyed the way Brett through football.
It looked a little more violent and vicious than it was.
(40:24):
He had great rotation, so once it hit your hands,
it stuck. Really enjoyed playing with him. I didn't think
he threw hard. Some of the other receivers he played
where it talked about him breaking their fingers. I didn't
have that problem. I loved the fact that he threw
a firm pass that could allow me to gain yards
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after the catch.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
Sterling Sharp, Pro Football Hall of Shamer packer wide receiver.
Most surreal moment from the weekend in Can't Ohio as.
Speaker 8 (40:55):
What the Radnitski luncheon where there's just there's only Hall
of famers in the room. That is pretty powerful. That
is that is I don't know what the apostles felt
like being around, but it was kind of like that.
(41:19):
It's kind of like, wow, you know, you look around
and you know, any era, any decade, any season, and
you got one of those guys in there wearing a
gold jacket, and that was extremely powerful.
Speaker 4 (41:34):
You know.
Speaker 8 (41:34):
There was a couple of guys that I got to
meet that I didn't know. Steve Largent. I got to
spend some time with him, which was tremendous for me
because I really liked how crafty he was and how
he parlayed his skill set and to being a Pro
Football Hall of Famer. That was, you know, I got
a chance to spend some time with Mike Singletary, who
(41:56):
I played against for six fives six years I see
year in Chicago, gotten to sit next to him in
a couple of get togethers and meetings and talk. So
it was uh that Nichekie luncheon is uh, it's it's special, Dan,
it really is, and it is uh.
Speaker 4 (42:14):
What was served at the luncheon that's humbling.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (42:17):
I don't even know if I that's what I'm saying.
It is. You know. Once once the doors closed and
it got quiet, it got really, uh, extremely surreal. And
the fact that I don't know where I am and
I'm not really sure looking around. I'm supposed to be here,
(42:40):
but if they haven't noticed me sitting here, then I'm
going to just be quiet and not be not draw
attention to myself. I kind of felt like that it
was It was extremely powerful to be in that room
with a tremendous group of football players that are that
I'm finding out are even better.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
Meant a moment like that would be the highlight if
you had a capsule that you were going to keep
for grandkids and great grandkids and say, that's the moment.
Speaker 8 (43:10):
Walking to that stage Friday night, to receive my gold
jacket and to have my little brother standing there in tears.
Nobody wanted this for me more than him. Nobody wanted
or felt like I should be in the hall of
Fame more than them. He has said publicly many times
(43:32):
how he feels about me and how he feels about
my career. But taking that walk through those Hall of famers,
hugging and high fiving them, and then that moment where
I got a chance to look up and see his
eyes and he wears glasses and they were fogged up
because he was crying, and you know, the tears were
streaming down, and then the embrace that he and I had.
(43:56):
It was at that moment that I felt I was
Hall of Fame. That moment for me set the stage
for what I felt, what I believe, what I saw
just that moment, which turned out to be a very
public moment, but it felt like it was just he
and I in the room.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
I think your brother's speech helped you immensely getting into
the Hall of Fame, if that makes sense, because I
think it reminded people of just maybe people forgot just
how great you were.
Speaker 4 (44:29):
Your brother reminded people about them.
Speaker 8 (44:33):
I can't say yes or no, Dan, I will just
agree with you, because you know, we've been friends for
a long time and I always agree with everything you say.
So I don't know, you know, no one knows the criteria.
No one knows how these things are set in motion
or what these things do. I you know, I'm not
(44:55):
going to disagree or argue with you. I'm just like
you know. I was enjoying myself not being a Hall
of Famer, and so to get the knock on the
door and to find out that my brother's giving me
the news was kind of surreal. And you know, and
I've said this before, Dan, I didn't want to be
a Hall of Famer. That's not one of the things
(45:16):
that when my career ended, I was looking at my wall,
going there's a space for a Hall of Fame something,
and I need to fill that space. No, I didn't
have that. I was extremely proud of playing football. I
was extremely proud of the way I played football, and
I was ready to move on with the part of
(45:37):
my life that led me to get a chance to
work with you. We did some really good work, especially
at the Super Bowls doing the eleven o'clock Sports Center.
But that's all I wanted to do, was play. And
the Hall of Fame came calling, and that was a
tremendously wonderful honor that I can't even begin to put
(45:59):
in work.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
You're one of the most prepared analysts I ever worked with,
might might have been the most prepared analyst that you
had so much information you were giving information to other
analysts at the Super Bowl. Don't need to mention any names, no, no,
but you had a notebook and I was like, that
is research. So let me and I miss you as
(46:23):
a an NFL voice.
Speaker 8 (46:26):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (46:26):
Let me make you an analyst just for this moment. Okay,
how would you be covering or what would your opinion
be of what's going on in Dallas.
Speaker 8 (46:37):
I think it's normal. A lot of people would like
to believe, oh God, that's one of your best players
and you're not going anywhere. You're not building anything without him.
I agree with that. Michael Parson is basically saying that
the offers you've made are below my standards and I'm
not going to sign it. And until you bring them up,
(46:59):
I believe even him. Contracts are. The problem with contracts
is either the organization or the player feel that the
public sentiment is going to help them get the job done,
and it's not when Jerry Jones, when the spirit hits
Jerry Jones, the deal is going to get done or
(47:19):
it's not going to get done. I don't think this
is a marriage made in hell. I think something's going
to get worked out. I believe they're going to end
up on the same page. But then right now it
looks as though the pressure is on Jerry Jones. Well,
when this deal is done, the pressure is going to
refert back to the player. And then once you see
(47:41):
what the player, you can't get hurt, you can't miss meetings,
you can't be late, you have to be above reproach.
Once this deal is done, that's a lot of pressure
to be on playing a game that we love and enjoy.
So I think it's going to get worked out. I
just think right now logistically they're there's a lot of
cap issues that they're trying to negotiate around, and they
(48:03):
need time to be able to do it.
Speaker 4 (48:06):
Did you lose your voice of the Hall of Fame?
Speaker 8 (48:08):
Uh? Yes, I did. The Hall of Fame is it?
Speaker 3 (48:13):
You know?
Speaker 8 (48:13):
We did a lot of interviews and then Saturday night
at the party which you missed, there was cigar smoking
and drinking of the shape out of the Portuger my
brother's Kangnac. So yeah, we almost burned the building down.
We did uh.
Speaker 4 (48:34):
Congrats great to thank you, great, thanks, great to see you.
Speaker 2 (48:38):
Glad you survived, and good luck with your golf game.
Speaker 8 (48:42):
More importantly, thank you very much. You know we're going
to be working on it this afternoon. I know.
Speaker 4 (48:47):
But would you rather have a green jacket or a
gold jacket?
Speaker 8 (48:51):
Oh? Green?
Speaker 7 (48:57):
Green?
Speaker 8 (48:58):
Okay, because you know, people already knew I played football.
But if I had a green jacket winning the Masters,
come on, Dan, that in itself? Would you know that
the green jacket? Being a football player, Oh yeah, I'd
rather have the green jacket than the goal.
Speaker 2 (49:16):
I think now I think I have a better chance
of getting a gold jacket than you do a green jacket.
Speaker 8 (49:22):
You actually do.
Speaker 4 (49:23):
By the way, thank you man. You're very welcome. My friend,
that's a sterling shark.
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in no particular order, talking quarterbacks today, but also backup
(01:10):
quarterbacks as well, the Cleveland Browns, I believe, have six
quarterbacks in their quarterback room. There's a chance they keep
four to start the season. And the reason why I
bring this up, it's for a variety of reasons, but
I think the most important one is your backup quarterback
situation with the Rams with Matthew Stafford. They got Jimmy Garoppolo.
(01:33):
That's a high end backup. I mean, you got a
backup who started in the Super Bowl. We don't know
the severity of Matthew Stafford. It feels like it's day
to day with the back issues there. But this is
a team that can challenge to win the NFC. They're
that talented and it might come down to Matthew Stafford's health.
And if that's the case, Jimmy Garoppolo, how much does
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he play? Stetson Bentett is the backup to the backup.
But look at some of these situations around the NFL,
and you need to have if you're a really good team,
you kind of have to have a really good backup
because if your starter goes down, you don't want the
season to go down as well. But we'll talk about
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that coming up. And the Cleveland Browns brought in Tyler Hunting. Now,
if you look at the headlines, it's Brown's bring in
former Pro Bowl Pro bowler Tyler Hunting, and I went, well, okay,
wait a minute.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Now.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
The reality is he made the Pro Bowl in twenty
twenty two. His stats this year two touchdown passes, three
interceptions and rushing for one hundred and thirty seven yards.
The Pro Bowl used to mean something, and he did
a pretty good job with Lamar Jackson's absence when he
was with Baltimore, and he's a solid backup. But you're
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going to the Cleveland Browns and you already have a
quarterback heavy room. When you have that many quarterbacks, you
don't have a quarterback. Joe Flacco's age, the inexperience of
Shadoor Sanders and Dylan Gabriel, and then the curiosity of
Kenny Pickett. They're all injured, but not you know, serious injuries,
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but you still have nagging injuries and you're trying to
get everybody enough reps. It feels like it's Joe Flacco's
job to lose from what I'm told, But I thought
at the beginning Kenny Pickett was going to be the
number one guy. Flacco the backup, and then you're going
to have to figure out if you're keeping three or
four quarterbacks with Shadoor Sanders and Dylan Gabriel. Now you
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bring in Tyler Hunting as well, but I think that's
because you know you've got.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
A preseason game coming up.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
I think this Friday, you got to have somebody play
in the position who's healthy enough. And that might be
the case there, but we'll look at some of the
other backup quarterback situations here and the importance speaking of
what Chris Sims, who was a backup quarterback for a
portion of his NFL career, will join us as well.
The college football rankings came out. It's Texas, Ohio State,
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Penn State, Georgia, Notre Dame, Clemson, Oregon, and Alabama. And
we were wondering, when's the last time you had the
two top teams in the country meeting to open up
the season. This is the first time it's happened in
the history of college football. And you go back to
the ap Poles started in nineteen thirty six, the Coaches
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Poll started in nineteen fifty. We've never had number one
versus two in Week one, and if you're going to
ease into the season, not exactly doing that. If you're
arch Manning. We're going to get a really good idea
about arch Manning on the road against Ohio State to
open up the season. Well, this isn't you know Louisiana, Louisiana,
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Monroe or Mercer or any of those schools. It's you're
playing the Ohio State at Ohio State.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
The defending national champions. Yes, going into Columbus ranked number one.
For really, what is your first game? That's you can
already see the hero or zero storylines for arch Manning.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Here's another thing that I found interesting. I find this
college football season to be wide open. I think the
voters felt that way too, because you have Texas, Ohio State,
and Penn State, and they all got double digit votes
to be the best team in the country at least
to start out. We'll talk about this second ten. I
think that's what's interesting. These are sort of the usuals,
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the usual suspects. I like Clemson a lot more than
I probably thought I was going to Oregon's in there,
Alabama at ten, Notre Dames in there, Georgia, so Penn State,
Ohio State, Texas, and it should be a fun season.
I don't know when we're adding four more teams to
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the playoffs. It's probably next year. But once again, it's
gray area there. It's just like the NCAA Tournament more madness.
I was told two weeks ago, get ready for a
decision if they're going to expand or be status quo.
Well we finally got around to that yesterday where they
said they're not going to expand March madness, which I
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think is really good. I would like them to take
away some of these bids of the opportunity. I'd like
get reduced a little bit more, but that's not going
to happen. We always add, we never subtract. And if
you're at sixty eight, I do think we'll eventually get
to seventy two. And I'm told you might get to
seventy six as well before the end of this decade.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Yes, Marvin, sorry, are my eyes deceiving me?
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Texas at Ohio State August.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Thirtieth, noon, Yeah, yeah, oh wow, big noon kickoffs?
Speaker 4 (06:44):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Ohio State. I think has got a lot of noon kickoffs.
I don't think they're too play I think Ryan days
to please with the big noon kickoff there, but all
eyes will be on that. You would think that's a
Saturday night type game, right, yeah, Ston.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
But you might be if you're say Texas and arch Manning,
you might love Just wake up, get to the field,
get the game over with.
Speaker 6 (07:11):
You're not sitting around all day waiting to go all
right here.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
Here, okay, stay LuSE gotta the just get the game,
let's play.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
I was watching the nineteen eighty three NFL Draft, the
John Lway Draft and Dan Marino. I was watching the
thirty for thirty last night. That took place in the morning.
I think it started at eight am and at noon.
Now I'm there. I met the Mary Atte Marquis and
you had to be upstairs to look down upon the draft.
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And I don't remember if how many players were there.
I don't remember players being there. I remember running into
John Madden, but it was just when you think about showcasing,
you usually wait and you want it out. You want to,
you know, put it on the best time slot. The
NFL Draft, I think started at eight am and ended at.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Noon that day. All right, see what's pull question today?
Speaker 5 (08:11):
Well, we probably got a gajillion of them off of
the college football list there. That's a lot that one
exactly one gajillion. Yes, we also have a couple of
options from the t DUB you're interested in those, such as,
if you're a pro athlete, are there any circumstances where
you'd want your parent at training camp?
Speaker 6 (08:29):
Yes or no?
Speaker 2 (08:29):
All right, well, this is a Shadoor Sanders talking about
why he doesn't want Dion Sanders at training camp.
Speaker 7 (08:38):
I don't want him come in to see me right
now because I want to get to where I want
to go in for him to see me now, I
don't want him to come and see me.
Speaker 8 (08:46):
You know, get a couple of reptions.
Speaker 7 (08:47):
You know, he's cheering like a good dad, like, nah,
you can't be proud of me right now. I gotta
get to where I'm going, and I know it's a
lot I gotta do to get there. So it's kind
of like I just want everything that I'm doing is
just like focus on this time.
Speaker 8 (09:00):
I mean, I don't want to know distraction because we
know out of media, we know how everybody would.
Speaker 7 (09:04):
Take it and take away from the team just from
him being my own dad sowing up.
Speaker 8 (09:09):
So you know, it's a gift that occurs at the
same time.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
It's a great answer, and by all accounts, he has
been what they thought he was going to be. Now
I know we've had the speeding tickets. By all accounts though,
how he handles himself with the veterans when he's in
camp that he has put in the time and he
realizes he's a rookie, he is not looking for expecting
preferential treatment. And once again, this is somebody with the
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Browns who said this, and this was somebody who didn't
think they should have drafted Shador Sanders, because if you
really wanted him, and you want to send the message
you really want him, you would have drafted him earlier.
It felt like a I don't know, let's just take
him after you take Dylan Gabriel. Now that's aside from
the point of him looking at him and saying he's
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done what you've wanted, expected, hoped for and coming to
camp would be a spectacle. It would lead Sports Center,
it would be a big big deal. Should Or is
trying to earn this job, and it's tougher because he
is should Or Sanders. Does it open doors, yes. Do
you get a lot of attention publicity, yes, but more
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eyes are on you. They want to know can you
play the position at a high level? And I think
what he said is, Dad, let me wait till I'm
an NFL quarterback. Let me wait till I'm the starter here,
then if you want to come to camp. Dion did
go to Shiloh Sanders. He's with Tampa Bay. I think
he was undrafted free agent. But I think he has
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a chance to make the team. But it has to
be a little bit awkward though, if I'm a coach
and Dion's in town and all of a sudden, you know, man,
how Shiloh doing. Hey, peg puts.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
In the work.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Hey, you know he's got a chance. Like you kind
of have to say something nice. It's like when you
go to a parent teacher conference when your kid is
young and you know that she's a problem in class,
but they go, well, you know, she's interesting, she's got
good spirit there. You know, they try to tell you
something positive there. But Shiloh may make the roster in
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Tampa Bay and maybe the Cleveland Browns keep four quarterbacks
even though they got six in there.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Now, Yes, Tod, And.
Speaker 9 (11:23):
Why would you want any hint at all or appearance
of preferential treatment that's not to say that any head
coach at GM because Deon's there, is gonna treat you
nicer or give you a better chance to be a
starter or get more reps. But just the look of that,
you don't want anyone to even be whispering that among
your teammates are Dion's here, he's gotting.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Well, this is different. This is the NFL. This isn't
a Dion's here. We're gonna start you. That's not happening.
This is a meritocracy.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Are you good?
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Can you be the starter on this team? Can we
win games with you? Like all of those things. It's
not Dion's here, we're gonna put you in. Or this
happened to me with one of my daughters playing basketball.
I showed up, and you know, my daughter wasn't good,
but the coach then gave my daughter more playing time.
I pulled him to the side and I said, hey, coach,
(12:12):
it's okay if Grace is on the bench, I'm fine
with that. He goes, okay, all right. I just didn't
want you to come out. And then she didn't play.
I go, no, No, she had to earn it. Don't
worry about that. Yeah, laughing. It's like the first dad
to argue for less playing time. I did, well, I
know how that feels.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Hey, coach, I gotta talk to you, way too much
time on the ice.
Speaker 6 (12:37):
Could you just play him a little less?
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Please? Thank you?
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
I might have had that conversation with my son's coach.
You know, Hey, you don't have to play him because
I'm here. You don't have to. I mean, if he
gets in, great, but you don't have to play. The
national title odds Ohio State and Texas have the same
exact odds. Then it's Penn State and Georgia with the
same odds, Clemson, Alabama the same odds, Oregon and Notre Dame.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
With the same odds.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
College football starts in a couple of weeks, so get
ready for that. Any other pole questions that you're talking
about there, Seaton, Well, I'm trying to.
Speaker 6 (13:14):
Come up with one just based off of that.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
Do you think the say, national champion this year in
college football will come from those top.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
Three seeds or other?
Speaker 5 (13:27):
I do think it's interesting that Texas, Ohio State, and
Penn State all have like double Penn State has fourteen first.
Speaker 6 (13:34):
Place votes and they're in third.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
Yeah, Ohio State has twenty and Texas is twenty eight.
That's kind of it's not exactly even, but it's closer
than it feels like normally happens in those three spots.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
I would probably go with other because of a twelve
team playoff, and it feels like not parody, but it
feels like there's a pretty sizable group that's talented enough
to win. But you know, it goes back to when
you think of March Madness. You got to win six
games to win the national title. You got to win
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more games here in a playoff setting to win the
national title. It isn't season ends. It's one versus two,
or you have a fourteen playoff. Now we have twelve,
and there's always that chance somebody is going to play
their best football and knock you off, or you don't
play your best and you know you're vulnerable in an upset.
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But I probably take the rest of the field if
I gave you Ohio State, Texas, Penn State.
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Speaker 4 (15:16):
Did we decide on the poll question?
Speaker 6 (15:18):
Uh, yeah, we're gonna go with.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
This year's national champions will be either Texas, Ohio State,
Penn State, or other other Yes.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Well I know where Chris Sims will lean, the former
Texas Longhorn Pro Football Talk Live co host contributor to
Football Night in America. The Longhorns, open up with the
Ohio State. We're going to get a really good idea
about arch manning. I guess that first week there your
thoughts on that matchup, and I love that we're starting
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out with something that has some weight to it, that
means something to it. But I'm with you on the
road at Ohio State to open up your season.
Speaker 11 (15:57):
Yeah, I mean it's awesome, especially where I think a
lot of people thought maybe last year that semi final
matchup was the national championship game. I'm not trying to
disrespect Notre Dame or anything like that. They hit a
phenomenal gear. I mean, yeah on the road week one
and another aspect I like about it, like, yeah, you're
gonna have one verse two two heavyweights, and you know,
like the old days, Dan, it was like, oh man,
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whoever loses their season's over.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
They can't win the national championship.
Speaker 11 (16:23):
That's changed, So that to me makes college football a
whole lot better. But how can you not be excited
about the Longhorns, right, I mean, from all my understanding,
the world was crazy last year and they were losing
their mind that Ohio State was spending twenty million on
their football team. What's Texas close to this year? Almost
forty million?
Speaker 8 (16:42):
Right? Yeah.
Speaker 11 (16:42):
They do everything big down in Texas, that's for sure.
And they're pumped about arch Manning. I know that from
talking to people firsthand down there. I think they one
of the reasons they kind of like maybe pushed Quinn
Eewers out the door was because of the potential, the
talent of Arch Manning and where he can bring the
team and you know, the whole program as itself, because
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you know, even the Longhorns are as famous and as
awesome as they are. You have a quarterback like Arch Manning,
He's in the Heisman conversation, You're the number one team
in the country. Man, you might not have to pay
all these guys as much to even come there after that,
because everybody's gonna want to jump on the bandwagon.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Okay, Arch Manning Heisman Trophy candidate, one of the top ones.
Probably if he was coming out after this year, the
projections would be he would be a high pick, right right, right?
Okay is it because how much is this is Arch
Manning as opposed to Arch Johnson.
Speaker 11 (17:39):
Well, oh, I hear what you're saying. Well, yeah, I
mean the Manning name helps that a little bit. It
makes everybody feel warm and cozy. You go, wait, wait,
this is in his DNA. He knows what to expect
as far as football and what it's in. You know
what it takes to be good at that on a
day to day business, on a day to day basis.
It's the family business. So yeah, this does that add
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a little bit more of you know, comfort level to
evaluators and stuff like that. Sure does. The names in
his family also maybe boost him up there. People just
to go, well, they were good. I think he'll be
good too. Sure, but I don't think you get to
this point with arch Manning. And I experienced this too
as Chris Sims. Oh oh, you're only here because you're
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Phil Simson. Oh yeah, I mean, do you know anybody
else my age that could throw the football like me?
Speaker 4 (18:26):
No, you don't.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
That's why I'm here.
Speaker 11 (18:28):
Okay, right, so there, at some point it has to
become like the rubber hits the road and whoa arch
Manning maybe runs four five. Oh wow, he's got a
pretty quick release. Oh he's got a strong arm and
can really spin the ball. So I think there's enough
proof in the putting pudding there to justify where he's at.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
Hey got a little defensive there, didn't you.
Speaker 11 (18:49):
Well yeah, I just I know, I know what you're saying,
and I'm not defensive at all. I just you know,
when I get into that mode, I start, you know,
getting into like my fake Phil Simms voice and start
doing that.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
A little bit.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
We were talking about backup quarterbacks. The Browns have added
Tyler Huntley. There you got four quarterbacks, which means you
don't have one quarterback. And in today's NFL, what's the
likelihood that you can carry four quarterbacks on the roster.
Speaker 11 (19:15):
Very unlikely. I mean it's rare that they keep three's.
That's where this whole thing is odd. And maybe they
will keep four. I don't know. And again, the word
I've kind of used with the Browns and all that
is just to you know, and I say this even
with the Dallas Cowboys with their bad contracts, team building, right, yo,
the value of the quarterback. He's an asset. Oh yeah,
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that's great. Oh, teams need quarterbacks there, they're at a
premium all that. Ooh, our analytics say to take them here.
But what about the human aspect of like, oh, like
the Schador Sanders conversation is going to overtake your franchise.
And every day I get a statistical update on Instagram
or whatever else telling me how they all did all
because of Schador Sanders.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
So it's just a weird situation altogether.
Speaker 11 (20:01):
I feel bad for him in the situations he's in.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
But the Browns are in a weird spot.
Speaker 11 (20:07):
I would have gone into last week Dan going, I
don't know what they're gonna do. I was thinking, like, Okay,
Kenny Pickett, they're gonna keep him because hey, he's still young.
He did have some good moments in Pittsburgh. There's still
maybe some untapped potential. You see what you got there.
You keep Shador, you keep Dylan Gabriel because you're not
gonna be able to put them on the practice squad.
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I don't think they'll clear.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Waivers in a twenty four hour period.
Speaker 11 (20:30):
Some team will snag them and take them, so you're
gonna have to keep them on the roster. I was
kind of in the boat of I think Joe Flacco
will be the odd man out if things stayed status quo.
You know what he is. He's older, he's not exactly
mister take care of the football all the time. And
that's where I thought. But now we got the Kenny
Pickett hamstring injury. Now we got a Dylan Gabriel hamstring injury.
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Shadoor Sanders was dealing with a little arm issue this
past weekend, and now I don't know what to think.
The hell is gonna happen up in there? And yeah,
they might be forced to keep Joe Flacco and figure
out some other creative ways to keep all four of
these guys.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
Dan, How often do teams tank in the NFL?
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Not very often, right.
Speaker 11 (21:13):
The problem is the front office might tell the coaches
or whatever else, hey, play, these guys do all this.
You know, we want to keep this guy out because
we don't want to pay him guaranteed money if he
gets hurt after the year and all that.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
So the front office and ownership might try.
Speaker 11 (21:31):
To set it up to hey, I hope we don't
win the game, but damn, it's hard to make the
coaches and players buy into that. I mean, you know,
put yourself in some guy's shoe. Oh I'm the second stringer.
They're trying to tank the game. I don't care. This
is the first time all year I get to get
out here, put film for my future job another team.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Blah blah blah. I'm going all out.
Speaker 11 (21:50):
And more times than not, the teams that do that,
the coaches are like, wait, it looks like they might
fire me this year.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
The hell with them. I'm going to coach great this.
Speaker 11 (21:58):
Week all Jurra May Week eighteen last year, screwing over
the New England Patriots. Right, So yeah, that's where it's
hard to just full out tank. Maybe to the same
extent some of the other sports can pull it off,
it's a little different in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Chris Sims, Pro Football Talk Live co host you'll see
him on Football Night in America's podcast is called Unbuttoned,
former NFL college quarterback. The Rams situation I find really
intriguing because it feels like there's season which could be
a Super Bowl season is hinging on Matthew Stafford. Right now,
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you do have Jimmy Garoppolo, but this is a team
that went toe to toe with the Eagles in Philadelphia
last year, and I don't see and you know why
they shouldn't be considered one of the favorites for the
NFC again this year. But what like a back injury
that's day to day or now it's been week to
week here, right, what are we looking at with Matthew
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Stafford in the RAM.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
It's a little concerning, but I'm not like overly concerned yet.
Speaker 11 (23:00):
Good thing is they do have a Jimmy Garoppolo, and
I do think he could get you through two, three,
four games. But let's not get it messed up. Jimmy
Garoppo eight, Matthew Stafford. Stafford is special, and yeah, he
makes them a super Bowl team with all the things
they got around him. I'm with you in that conversation, Dan,
I mean, they are a super Bowl team. They had
the Eagles on the ropes like you talked about. I mean,
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I was sitting there on the field watching it.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
It happen.
Speaker 11 (23:22):
They got everything you need, coaches, young talent, playmakers, quarterback,
all of it.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
I won't be concerned. Well, you we heard McVeigh yesterday.
Speaker 11 (23:31):
They say, I think you know, he's maybe about ten
days away. To me, that's encouraging. That means that they're
feeling like it's going in the right direction to where
he could practice. But if we get to like August twentieth,
August twenty third, and we're still still dealing with this,
I'd be a little like, oh man, I don't know that. Yeah,
that's a little worrisome. Hey, the lower back back is
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a pain in the butt for a thrower of the football.
Tony Romo, damn, he had to retire because of it.
Troy Aikman had to retire because of it. My dad
had a little issues it happens because of that torking
you do as a quarterback all the time, over and
over and over, and sometimes your feet are in awkward
spots and you still tork And that's where they got
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to be careful on that. They just got to make
sure it goes away, because it's one of those things
when you're lower back and you go, oh, I'm about
ninety five percent. I think I can go out there
today and do it. The first time he throws a
few lasers, he goes, oh, I'm back to sixty five percent,
And this is one you gotta make sure you do
your due diligence, make sure it's wiped away so that
he can get after it. But we know, man, this
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is one of the damn toughest quarterbacks we've seen. I
expect him to be out there Week one ready to
go more threatening.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Rams are Chargers.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Oooh, I would say the I will go with the Rams.
Speaker 8 (24:43):
Ok.
Speaker 11 (24:44):
The Chargers are threatening, no question, And I got to
see them in person, and there's a real vibe in
that team and belief.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
But that AFC West, we know how good it is.
Speaker 11 (24:54):
I think it's arguably the greatest coaches in one division
in the history of football, if not definitely the greatest
coaches in one division. We know Mahomes is there. I
do think the Dan Broncos are real, right. We heard
Sean Payton say that the other day. I think the
Broncos are a team that like, Okay, people talking about playoffs,
but I think ours kind of a.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Sneaky Super Bowl contender, contender.
Speaker 11 (25:15):
One of the best defenses in football only got better
with the two forty nine ers they signed in free agency.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Bo Nick's second year Evan Ingram at tight end.
Speaker 11 (25:24):
I'd say, ooh, that's gonna be a nice addition for
Sean Payton and this RJ. Harvey they got in the
second round oft of Central Florida, I think has a
chance to be a real special player. So I put
Denver maybe a notch up above the Chargers as far
as that team that could surprise people and disrupt some
of the matchups we'd like to see in the AFC playoffs.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
When does it become a concern to you, as a
former player now analyst, with what's happening with Micaeh Parsons.
At what point you know in this month, would you
then you start to have some real concerns.
Speaker 11 (25:57):
I already have concerns, like I made the comment yesterday
with Florio on Pro Football Talk, like you know, circus
doesn't translate to Super Bowl, right. The football gods, they
can't look upon this and go, oh, this is the
way you handle a football team. The way they do
contracts is ridiculous. It costs them with having to pay
They could have got Michael Parsons for thirty four to
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thirty five million dollars last year. Now they're gonna have
to pay more than forty one. They should forty three
forty four. And those are two or three players on
your football team. When you add that up to Dak
Prescott and Ceedee Lamb, and how they drag their feet
on all of that. But let alone like the owner
taking kind of like what cheap shots to a degree,
i'd Michael Parsons all his back's out there. This is contracts.
(26:42):
Oh he missed six games last year when he really
missed four. Right, They put out things like you know, oh, god,
she's a little bit of a pain in the butt
in the building, Like really, he could kick cowboy.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
Hit buy a car when he said that. I mean exactly.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
There's just been too many weird messaging.
Speaker 11 (26:58):
Michael Parsons has handled it like a true pro been
there been, trying to be selfless, trying to be a
good leader. And then also the other part of it
that I can't stand Dan is like Jerry Jones, I
don't want the agent there, No crap, you don't want
the agent there, Jerry, this is your wheelhouse doing business deals.
I mean that's like meg, Hey, Jerry gets some shoulder
(27:18):
pads of a helmet and do a tackling drill against
Michael Parsons. That's like, it's like an equal conversation there,
not fair right, let alone against the bylaws of the
NFL and the CBA.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
So it is a distraction. They can say what they want.
Speaker 11 (27:31):
And I'm getting to the point where I think Micah
is gonna maybe have to play hardball and maybe he
has to start having a press conference like Jerry does
every few days and let everybody know what's really going on.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
The Bengals situation kind of tapered off because of Micah
Parsons and the Cowboys getting all the oxygen in the room.
Speaker 11 (27:50):
Right.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
This a Bengal team that's all in on offense. But
you know, having an eyewitness who's watched the Bengals practice
twice and he said, defensive, they're in trouble.
Speaker 11 (28:02):
I mean, they weren't a good defense last year. There's
not really a whole lot of Marquee household names on
the defense to make you think, oh wow, it's gonna
drastically turn around. Their biggest thing is they got Al
Golden and the new defensive coordinator there, right, and hopefully
he can be creative schematically to give them some advantages.
(28:23):
And I'm not shocked too to hear that it's not
going great for them at times. Right they are learning
a new defense, and damn you gotta go against Joe Burrow,
Chase and Higgins every day like we saw last year
that I don't care what defense you are, it's hard
to stop that crew right there. But man, it does
seem like there's gonna be a lot of pressure on
that offense. The Trey Hendrickson thing, not only did they
need him as a leader and he's the best player
(28:44):
on their defense. To me, it's twofold in the fact
that the kid they drafted in the first round, Shamar Stewart,
he's got superstar potential, but he's raw, he's simple. He
doesn't do any pass rushes moves. He just is like,
I just go that way and that's all I do.
So you're hurting his development by not having Trey hendrickson
there as well.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
So yeah, hopefully they can get that ironed out.
Speaker 11 (29:07):
Because man, when you watch Joe Burrow and company and
they're good and the AFC against of course Mahomes and
Lamar and Josh Allen, man, that just doesn't get any
better than that.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Do we give Joe Burrow a hall pass because he
beat Mahomes in Kansas City to go to the super Bowl?
But after that, I mean you're looking at not getting
to the playoffs a few years, right, even performance in
the play like I don't know.
Speaker 11 (29:37):
I well, you know, he had them on the ropes
right the next year in the AFC Championship game and
they got the late hit out of Mounds on Mahomes
right where He's kind of like, oh man, it feels
like Cincinnati's about to pull this off.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
So that happens. Injury has been an issue.
Speaker 11 (29:52):
I think the fact that the Bengals do things dysfunctionally
does like maybe give him a somewhat of a free
pass to your point there, But you know all in all,
two years ago, they were hot late in the year
and he hurt his wrist. Injury has been his biggest
kryptonite last year. I don't know what else you can do, right,
(30:13):
I mean, damn his thirty points every game. He just
going up and down the field, throwing for two hundred
and eighty yards every game, three touchdowns. He carried the
team as much as you've seen anybody carry the team.
So no, I don't think we give him a free pass.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
I don't.
Speaker 11 (30:27):
Hey, we got Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson are all time
greats in my opinion.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
They haven't even gotten to the Super Bowl yet.
Speaker 11 (30:34):
They haven't even been able to beat that guy Mahomes
one time yet in these damn playoff games or anything
like that.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
So that's one to me.
Speaker 11 (30:41):
One of the cool storylines of the year is can
Lamar and Josh Allen his talent and as awesome a
quarterbacks as I've ever seen in my life have yet
to be to a Super Bowl. Could this be the year?
I don't know, but yeah, it's pretty unreal with the
quarterbacks in the AFC, and I think Joe Burrow is
truly phenomenal.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Okay, give me the team that you like, sneaky team
that you like.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Okay, all right, sneaky team. All right.
Speaker 11 (31:07):
So here's one that I don't think a team gets
put en up in the in the super Bowl window.
I think the Houston Texans are going to be one
of those teams this year that I'll just say that.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
I know they're not sneaking up on anybody.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
As far as playoffs, Well, they jumped off the bandwagon
last year, right.
Speaker 11 (31:21):
I think, And I think a lot of that had
to do with the offensive coordinator and some of the
issues there. The defense is awesome, that's not even you know, disputable.
Nico Collins was hurt a bunch last year. They lost
Stefan Diggs, their pass protection was pitiful.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
I think they'll be better at receiver, and I think
you'll see CJ.
Speaker 11 (31:39):
Stroud have more of a hand in the pass protection
this year. So I would put them in that super
Bowl window or they're a little underrated in my opinion.
I think another the New England Patriots are of course
the other team i'd look at to go watch out.
It just seems like between that coaching staff, they one
of the teams that won the offseason where i'd go.
(32:01):
We are sitting here late December, going man New England.
If they win this week, they could go to the playoffs.
I would not be shocked by that at all. That's
one and one more I'll though to you. The Jets
have the talent to surprise people. Look at youth. People
are overlooking it. But they got some talent. I mean
they do. And I believe in Aaron Glenn and I
don't think they're gonna make it all about the quarterback.
(32:22):
They're gonna run the ball, They're gonna play defense. There'll
be a pain in the butt. But I think my
leader there would probably be New England and one of
those teams that you're talking about as far as that
just really jumps out and surprises us.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
Good stuff, good stuff.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
I like you fired up. I gotta I gotta get
you defensive to start out.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
And when am I not fired up? I don't know.
You tell me, you.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Know, because you know your dad. Little nepotism. And then yeah, yeah.
Speaker 11 (32:51):
Hey, tell those jerks you got on the show with you.
I said, hi, right, oh, I said hi, woll I'm
fired up?
Speaker 2 (32:56):
All right, Hey hey jerks. Chris Sims says, hello, thank you, Chris.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
All right, Dan always good being on.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Thanks guys, Chris Simms, Pro Football Talk Live co host.
You'll find him with Mike Florio. The show that precedes
ours and the Jerks is a little rough, all right.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
A little rough.
Speaker 5 (33:15):
I are used to that now, That's kind of our relationship. Okay, right,
let me.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Take a break. When we come back. Play of the Day.
Seaton gives us his review of the next two episodes
of Tom Brady. The first two episodes didn't go well
for the five part series. It is a five part series.
We were wondering about Tom's character arc in the documentary.
Maybe the reviews are a little better today than they
(33:41):
were yesterday.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
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Search FSR to listen live. He somehow forgot about us yesterday.
I didn't know that was possible. He's the freshly minted
Hall of Famer Sterling Sharp, the former Packer wide receiver.
(34:04):
How does that happen that you forget about us yesterday?
When you kept saying, Hey, I'm there for you.
Speaker 8 (34:11):
I was there for you in spirit.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
Oh your.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Yeah, Now you're a Hall of Famer and uh lois song.
Speaker 8 (34:20):
No, I would never blow my guy up.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
You know what you want? You know I do, go
ahead say it.
Speaker 8 (34:29):
No, man, do not make me say it.
Speaker 4 (34:35):
Okay, Uh what do you got on there? What are
you wearing?
Speaker 2 (34:40):
My brothers our logo for eighty eighty four? Oh, I'm sorry? Wow,
the four for the four is a little bigger. Yes,
that's what we wanted eighty eighty four.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
Not for you, that is.
Speaker 8 (34:56):
Yet.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Keep up, Dan, keep up. How did it take so
long for you to get into the Hall of Fame?
Speaker 8 (35:03):
I honestly don't know, and I don't think it took
long enough. I think I could have waited another two
hundred years, Dan, I didn't play football to get into
the Hall of Fame. I played football because I loved
the game. And you know, I wasn't waiting, you know,
me and you were playing a lot of golf while
I wasn't in the Hall of Fame back in the day.
(35:25):
So I was just golfing my ball, enjoying myself.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Was there ever a point where you thought I'm not
going to get in?
Speaker 8 (35:34):
No, there was never a point where I thought I
would get in or wouldn't get in. I never thought
about it. I just I never thought about it because
you know, the thing is is I played, and I
played really well. For me. I enjoyed how I played,
what I put on film, the people I played with,
and that was enough for me. So I never, you know,
(35:54):
wanted to have an advocate for me, you know, I
push the envelope or remind them that I'm I'm out here. No,
I just I did what I wanted to do, and
I was enjoying being at the Hall of Fame in
twenty eleven when my brother would take me back to
the injury, which part the part that we found out
(36:17):
in high school, and I could have played one play
or I could still be playing. The worst episode on
the field was probably against the Atlanta Falcons, but I
had had twenty thirty episodes over the years based on
my vertebrae and my spine were getting real close together,
(36:37):
laying on the field, having Andre rise and make me laugh,
and my friend teammate from South Carolina, Brad Edwards, coming
over to make sure I was okay. There's a lot
of moving parts to my injury then, and the thing
was is there was only two people that were happier
than me when my career ended, and that was the
(36:58):
two doctors that said I should never play football again.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Oh well, but if you played now, there's nothing there's
no technology that if you got this injury now, would
have enabled you to continue to play.
Speaker 8 (37:12):
Well. The thing is is my neck at the time
it got fixed was probably stronger than anyone else's neck.
International Football League. But you're talking about life, liberty and
the pursuit of happiness, and you have to ask yourself,
am I willing to take that chance? You know? Am
I willing to go out there and have everything in
this fusion? Do I want to put it to the test?
(37:35):
I didn't. I did Like you know, if I felt
like I left something, then I probably would have tried
to continue to play. But I didn't. I didn't leave
anything in football. I didn't. I did what I wanted
to do. A lot of people are having a hard
time with that statement. I did what I wanted to do,
(37:55):
which was just play. Not play in a Super Bowl,
not be a Hall of Famer, not be an All
Pro player, not lead the league in said category. I
just wanted to play, and I got to do that
for seven years and that was good enough for me.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
What was your first thoughts when you laid eyes on
Brett Favre.
Speaker 8 (38:16):
Had I had seen Mark Wilson, Randy Wright, but Keys,
Mike Nor said, Mike Tom Zach, Anthony Gilwig, Don Makowski,
and they were all really good friends of mine. They
were all good players, they were in the National Football League.
But when I first saw him, there was nothing that
(38:37):
he did set or that would allow you to think
that he was going to turn out to be what
he turned out to be.
Speaker 4 (38:45):
And what do you mean by that?
Speaker 8 (38:47):
He was just another guy. You know, if you brought
in a quarterback from Atlanta, you gave up whatever you
gave up for. Okay, you know, Mike Congreen is our
new coach. We got a new system, We got a
bunch of new moving parts, and he is one of
the new moving parts. So not knowing him or his background,
(39:09):
he was just another moving part. And you know, it's
just like, and I've been saying this all week, I said,
I understand what Michael Jordan felt like being in the triangle.
I understand what the late Kobe Bryant felt like being
in the triangle. I understand what Steph Curry feels like
being in the triangle. The great player doesn't have to change,
(39:31):
and the triangle or the West Coast offense and football
for us, I didn't have to change. And it fit
him perfectly. Because he had a little stronger arm than
Joe Montana, he could fit it in places. But he
had the fearlessness of Steve Young, I like to say,
(39:52):
and him in that system with his arm really made
it work for me.
Speaker 4 (39:58):
What did it feel like to catch a ball from
farv A lot.
Speaker 8 (40:02):
Of people like to think he threw hard, and I didn't.
I thought he threw you know, which allowed me to
cheat because I could kind of, you know, once the
ball got here, I could kind of turn away and
find out where contact was so I can get yards
after the catch. But I enjoyed the way Brett through football.
It looked a little more violent and vicious than it was.
(40:24):
He had great rotation, so once it hit your hands,
it stuck. Really enjoyed playing with him. I didn't think
he threw hard. Some of the other receivers he played
where it talked about him breaking their fingers. I didn't
have that problem. I loved the fact that he threw
a firm pass that could allow me to gain yards
(40:45):
after the catch.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
Sterling Sharp, Pro Football Hall of Shamer packer wide receiver.
Most surreal moment from the weekend in Can't Ohio as.
Speaker 8 (40:55):
What the Radnitski luncheon where there's just there's only Hall
of famers in the room. That is pretty powerful. That
is that is I don't know what the apostles felt
like being around, but it was kind of like that.
(41:19):
It's kind of like, wow, you know, you look around
and you know, any era, any decade, any season, and
you got one of those guys in there wearing a
gold jacket, and that was extremely powerful.
Speaker 4 (41:34):
You know.
Speaker 8 (41:34):
There was a couple of guys that I got to
meet that I didn't know. Steve Largent. I got to
spend some time with him, which was tremendous for me
because I really liked how crafty he was and how
he parlayed his skill set and to being a Pro
Football Hall of Famer. That was, you know, I got
a chance to spend some time with Mike Singletary, who
(41:56):
I played against for six fives six years I see
year in Chicago, gotten to sit next to him in
a couple of get togethers and meetings and talk. So
it was uh that Nichekie luncheon is uh, it's it's special, Dan,
it really is, and it is uh.
Speaker 4 (42:14):
What was served at the luncheon that's humbling.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (42:17):
I don't even know if I that's what I'm saying.
It is. You know. Once once the doors closed and
it got quiet, it got really, uh, extremely surreal. And
the fact that I don't know where I am and
I'm not really sure looking around. I'm supposed to be here,
(42:40):
but if they haven't noticed me sitting here, then I'm
going to just be quiet and not be not draw
attention to myself. I kind of felt like that it
was It was extremely powerful to be in that room
with a tremendous group of football players that are that
I'm finding out are even better.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
Meant a moment like that would be the highlight if
you had a capsule that you were going to keep
for grandkids and great grandkids and say, that's the moment.
Speaker 8 (43:10):
Walking to that stage Friday night, to receive my gold
jacket and to have my little brother standing there in tears.
Nobody wanted this for me more than him. Nobody wanted
or felt like I should be in the hall of
Fame more than them. He has said publicly many times
(43:32):
how he feels about me and how he feels about
my career. But taking that walk through those Hall of famers,
hugging and high fiving them, and then that moment where
I got a chance to look up and see his
eyes and he wears glasses and they were fogged up
because he was crying, and you know, the tears were
streaming down, and then the embrace that he and I had.
(43:56):
It was at that moment that I felt I was
Hall of Fame. That moment for me set the stage
for what I felt, what I believe, what I saw
just that moment, which turned out to be a very
public moment, but it felt like it was just he
and I in the room.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
I think your brother's speech helped you immensely getting into
the Hall of Fame, if that makes sense, because I
think it reminded people of just maybe people forgot just
how great you were.
Speaker 4 (44:29):
Your brother reminded people about them.
Speaker 8 (44:33):
I can't say yes or no, Dan, I will just
agree with you, because you know, we've been friends for
a long time and I always agree with everything you say.
So I don't know, you know, no one knows the criteria.
No one knows how these things are set in motion
or what these things do. I you know, I'm not
(44:55):
going to disagree or argue with you. I'm just like
you know. I was enjoying myself not being a Hall
of Famer, and so to get the knock on the
door and to find out that my brother's giving me
the news was kind of surreal. And you know, and
I've said this before, Dan, I didn't want to be
a Hall of Famer. That's not one of the things
(45:16):
that when my career ended, I was looking at my wall,
going there's a space for a Hall of Fame something,
and I need to fill that space. No, I didn't
have that. I was extremely proud of playing football. I
was extremely proud of the way I played football, and
I was ready to move on with the part of
(45:37):
my life that led me to get a chance to
work with you. We did some really good work, especially
at the Super Bowls doing the eleven o'clock Sports Center.
But that's all I wanted to do, was play. And
the Hall of Fame came calling, and that was a
tremendously wonderful honor that I can't even begin to put
(45:59):
in work.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
You're one of the most prepared analysts I ever worked with,
might might have been the most prepared analyst that you
had so much information you were giving information to other
analysts at the Super Bowl. Don't need to mention any names, no, no,
but you had a notebook and I was like, that
is research. So let me and I miss you as
(46:23):
a an NFL voice.
Speaker 8 (46:26):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (46:26):
Let me make you an analyst just for this moment. Okay,
how would you be covering or what would your opinion
be of what's going on in Dallas.
Speaker 8 (46:37):
I think it's normal. A lot of people would like
to believe, oh God, that's one of your best players
and you're not going anywhere. You're not building anything without him.
I agree with that. Michael Parson is basically saying that
the offers you've made are below my standards and I'm
not going to sign it. And until you bring them up,
(46:59):
I believe even him. Contracts are. The problem with contracts
is either the organization or the player feel that the
public sentiment is going to help them get the job done,
and it's not when Jerry Jones, when the spirit hits
Jerry Jones, the deal is going to get done or
(47:19):
it's not going to get done. I don't think this
is a marriage made in hell. I think something's going
to get worked out. I believe they're going to end
up on the same page. But then right now it
looks as though the pressure is on Jerry Jones. Well,
when this deal is done, the pressure is going to
refert back to the player. And then once you see
(47:41):
what the player, you can't get hurt, you can't miss meetings,
you can't be late, you have to be above reproach.
Once this deal is done, that's a lot of pressure
to be on playing a game that we love and enjoy.
So I think it's going to get worked out. I
just think right now logistically they're there's a lot of
cap issues that they're trying to negotiate around, and they
(48:03):
need time to be able to do it.
Speaker 4 (48:06):
Did you lose your voice of the Hall of Fame?
Speaker 8 (48:08):
Uh? Yes, I did. The Hall of Fame is it?
Speaker 3 (48:13):
You know?
Speaker 8 (48:13):
We did a lot of interviews and then Saturday night
at the party which you missed, there was cigar smoking
and drinking of the shape out of the Portuger my
brother's Kangnac. So yeah, we almost burned the building down.
We did uh.
Speaker 4 (48:34):
Congrats great to thank you, great, thanks, great to see you.
Speaker 2 (48:38):
Glad you survived, and good luck with your golf game.
Speaker 8 (48:42):
More importantly, thank you very much. You know we're going
to be working on it this afternoon. I know.
Speaker 4 (48:47):
But would you rather have a green jacket or a
gold jacket?
Speaker 8 (48:51):
Oh? Green?
Speaker 7 (48:57):
Green?
Speaker 8 (48:58):
Okay, because you know, people already knew I played football.
But if I had a green jacket winning the Masters,
come on, Dan, that in itself? Would you know that
the green jacket? Being a football player, Oh yeah, I'd
rather have the green jacket than the goal.
Speaker 2 (49:16):
I think now I think I have a better chance
of getting a gold jacket than you do a green jacket.
Speaker 8 (49:22):
You actually do.
Speaker 4 (49:23):
By the way, thank you man. You're very welcome. My friend,
that's a sterling shark.
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