August 20, 2025 • 39 mins
FOX NFL analyst Greg Olsen weighs in on contract negotiations around the NFL and explains why agents are so crucial in keeping negotiations from getting personal. Dodgers pitching coach Mark Prior discusses potential postseason plans for Shohei Ohtani on the mound and shares what it was like being the pitcher during one of the most infamous plays in baseball history. NFL analyst Ross Tucker gives his take on the Colts' QB situation and shares who he believes is the most interesting team in the NFL.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Greg Olsen, he's a Fox analyst, three time pro bowler
joining us on the program. What was your best salary
in the NFL?
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Say, towards the end of my career, I probably was
making seven million, and now the best tight ends in
the league are making sixteen.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Did you ever participate in negotiations, be in the room
when they're discussing your contract.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
No.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
No, My agent, Drew Rosenhause. I had him since I
came out of Miami. He handled all negotiations. I mean,
I was up to speed. He would call me and
debrief me in pretty good detail along the you know,
along what was said and what the conversations in the
back and forth.
Speaker 5 (00:45):
But no, I never participated directly.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
I tried to stay out of that and just let
him handle kind of being the go between between myself
and the organization.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Why is Jerry Jones allowed to negotiate with Michaeh Parsons
individually when I think the CBA says, your agent has
to be in there to, you know, negotiate.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
That's a great question, and I thought all along that
was a very interesting part of the conversation. I know
you guys now are bringing it up and discussing it.
I don't I don't know the exact reasons. I don't
know the exact legalities of what's in the CBA by writing.
But my understanding was always players can represent themselves. There's
multiple players throughout the league for a long time that
have negotiated their own contracts because they don't have a
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registered contract agent on file with the NFLPA or you
know all that. So in that regard, you would work
directly with the general manager of the front office to
negotiate on your own behalf. But my understanding was if
you had representation and that was filed with the with
the PA and all that, that they should be the
go between. So I'm not sure the exact specifics, but
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I think it's a great question. I just think it
adds to what we're seeing now. It leads to this,
This is why players have agents. And I know three
is kicked around and that's being now negotiated to a
lower number for a lot of young players, and I
get it, but this is why you pay the money
to keep the personal animosity out of the way between you.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
These contracts get tough.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Whether you're Patrick Mahomes or Josh Allen or Micah Parsons
or a guy further down the roster. The team is
going to use every bit of leverage they had. They're
gonna tell your agent or in this case, yourself, reasons
why you shouldn't make what you want, and then you're
going to try to counter that, and it's gonna get testy.
It's inevitable nature of negotiations, and that's why having that
buffer in between keeps things from getting personal like we're
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seeing here in Dallas.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
More concerning, let's take Michael Parsons out of the equation,
because I do think that deal will get done. The
Trey Hendrickson with the Bengals or Terry McLaurin, which one
is more damaging to that team's potential success this season? Man,
that's a great question.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
I would say Hendrickson up in Cincinnati, just because we
know how much conver station that has surrounded the Bengals defense.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
They fired the DC, they hire.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Al Golden, you know, the longtime college DC from Penn State,
who was most recently at Penn State, I mean a
Notre dame. I guess my question is can that defense
be they weren't very good to begin with last year,
and Joe Burrow had an unbelievable season, and they still
fell short of expectations. With the whole emphasis in the
offseason for them getting back into the likes of the
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Bills and the Ravens and the Chiefs to get themselves
back in the AFC to that echelon with Joe Burrow.
They can't do it without the defense getting better. And
now you take away the sack leader, you take away
your best defensive player. Can you assume that you're going
to be back in Super Bowl contention to compliment one
of the best offenses in football? So I would say
for them, this is a significant storyline. And if they
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can't figure it out what was already a weakness, now
you take away your best player, you have to assume
it's even worse.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Help me understand why Anthony Richardson would be the bust
and not the Colts general manager Chris Ballard because Anthony
Richardson didn't take himself at four overall the Colts did.
They took a project that high. Who wasn't he had
glimpses in college. But you start in week one like
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I'm just trying to under and the kid is twenty
three years of age, and it feels like the NFL
will move on from him.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Yeah, and I'll again, this is not an indictment of
Anthony Richardson. I don't know the kid that well. I
don't know the ins and outs behind the scenes there.
But I will say this in credit to Chris Ballard.
I think the best guys in the NFL, whether it's coaches,
front office, personnel, general managers, when you know you've made
a mistake, I think the teams that continue to double down,
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double down and prolong this experiment end up finding themselves
out of work. I think the best organizations understand, you
know what, this was a miss and now this is
a big one. Right you take a top five quarterback,
it's set your franchise back multiple years. But if you
continue to push it down the road and said it's
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gonna change, it's gonna change. And I can't admit failure.
I can't admit that I was wrong. Typically that blows
up the entire organization. And there's another general manager there,
so I do give him a little bit credit. It's
behind the scenes him and Shane steich In are saying,
you know what, we missed. He's not the guy. Daniel
Jones gives us a better chance to win. I almost
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think that's the more difficult decision, and one that they
if it was even close, Anthony Richardson, just because of
his draft pedigree, would be the Week one starter. So
I think we see this all the time in free agency.
The Eagles just won the Super Bowl and huffed their
big free agents. Signing from the Jets, they paid a
bazillion dollars, he didn't play down the stretch, and guess
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what this year they shipped him off for pennies on
the dollar to another organization. And Howie Roseman said, you
know what, I missed on that one, But we're gonna
move on. So it's different when it's the quarterback. But
the good organizations admit defeat, They admit when they were wrong,
and you got to move on.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
I think that's really a great point and I had
not thought of that, and maybe that's what the Colts
are doing that. Yes, we saw two years and he's
not our guy. Now maybe you can trade him to somebody,
and maybe he could. We're you know, we're seeing this
cycle now far more than we used to two years,
maybe three years didn't work out. Now you go, you're
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going to be a backup, and it's like almost the
Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield, Gino Smith. You know, well, we'll
bring you back around. Maybe it's a better coaching staff,
maybe it's a better team, and maybe Anthony Richardson still
has a future. We're talking to Greg Olsen, Fox NFL
analyst and you can tune in to Youth Inc. And
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Greg has a weekly podcast. He had Tom Brady on,
Malcolm Gladwell on, and you're talking about sports and parenting
and the next generation of athletes. How'd you come up
with this idea?
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Yeah, so it's actually been a really a really fun
project for us. You know, I'm a dad of three.
I'm the son of a high school football coach from
New Jersey, legendary coach out of the Northeast, coached over
forty years, coach me and my brother. So I grew
up in this world. Like when I was a young kid,
the highlight of our life was playing varsity football one
day for my dad. Fortunately I was able to go
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on and make a career out of it. But now
as a father raising three young kids in a very
different youth sports culture, than any of us, remember, and
any of us really grew up in and there was
a lot of things that we were doing wrong, a
lot of things that I didn't have a great idea
of what the right path forward was for my sons
and my daughter. And we said, you know what, there's
a lot of really interesting people out there that have
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great perspectives and great lessons to be shared, and let's
go find those people. So we've had a lot of
really cool conversations our latest season that we just dropped.
You know, you mentioned Tom Brady. We had Malcolm Gladwell
this year. This week and next week we'll have Ryan
Day coming off the National champions getting ready for that
big Texas game, and CJ. Stroud and just some really
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fun and really insightful people that have really good experiences
that can be great for parents, coaches, young athletes, people
dealing with different adversities. We think it can really help
a lot of people. And along the way, as the
host quote unquote, I'm learning more than anyone and trying
to implement a lot of these values and lessons into
my own youth coaching and also into just my parenting.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
It's a youth inc I n C. And it's a
weekly podcast. I was curious about this when we were
going to have you on of how much of your
job now as a broadcaster for Fox is your football
knowledge and how much of it is the ability to
understand TV. Well.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
I think it's a great question because I joke with
my producer and director all the time, like the football
part I always felt pretty good about. You know, the
football part, I felt like I always understood and I
saw and I really enjoy talking the game and formulating
different storylines to present to the viewer and letting them
kind of unravel in real time during the broadcast. The
TV part is the part I think all of us
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have to learn, right. You have to learn how to
go in and out of commercial breaks. You have to
learn how to talk to the truck.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
You know.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
I always joke like, still to this point day, when
I want it behind the defense, you know the fancy
TV people call it. You know, I want the pit,
you know, I want pit framing. I'm like, I just
want behind the defense, whatever that is called.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
Give me that.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
So I'm still learning some of the nuance, the terminology
where all the cameras are, and I've gotten a lot
better now. Going into my fifth year. But it's it's
very interesting. The football part. I feel like that's that's
the easy part, making that fit into a three hour
live broadcast, talk in segments, talking soundbites, not talking over
your play by play, commercial breaks, ad reads. Fortunately, I've
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had great partners. I got Joe Davis now, who's incredible,
Kevin Burkhart before that, they handle all the TV and
I tell him I'll just do the football part.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
So I've been lucky in that regard.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Well, you're on a play clock too, though, when you
think about it, that you might have twelve seconds to
describe something and then you got to turn it over
to your play by play guy so he can do
his job. And this is where Jim nance is unbelievable
because Tony Romo. Tony will kind of color outside the
line sometime and all of a sudden, you know, Jim's
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got to grab it at the last second and you know,
go third and eight. You know. So I understand the
timing part of it, But so many guys that came
through ESPN. These are legendary coaches and players, and I said,
you got to understand TV, and even Rodney Harrison and
Tony Dungee on football night in America. I said, you
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guys are rookies. You know nothing about TV. Listen to
me and you'll do fine. You know football, But that's
only part of the equation. They'd look at you, go you.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
Just talk, I go no.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
If if somebody in your ear goes, hey, you got
twenty seconds to what twenty seconds is in real time?
Playing a game? You do twenty seconds in TV You're like, uh,
I don't know how long? How long am I going?
You went forty two seconds?
Speaker 1 (11:10):
I did it?
Speaker 3 (11:12):
No, And you're spot on, And the voice in your
ear is an adjustment early on in my career. The
natural instinct of anybody is when someone says something to
you while you're talking, you stop and you want to listen.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
Well, obviously you sound silly on live television.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
If you do that. To your point about play by
play guys, there's no such thing as a good color
analyst without a good play by play guy. They are
the heroes of all of this. They are the professionals
quote unquote, like they keep this train on the tracks
running and give you the space and the breath and
the leads to then talk about the things that they
really know you're interested in or you feel good about,
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and you want to take the broadcast. So it is
more of a dance. It is a rhythm. It's ever changing.
Every game has a different cadence. There's games that have
a million penalties, million commercial breaks and a million injuries.
Those get super choppy, and then there's the dream games,
which every play is a long, fluid drive. There's multiple
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first downs in every possession. You can really let some
of these storylines unravel. You don't feel like you have
to force it in because it's a three and out
punt commercial. So again, it's it's a part of the
The part of the experience that I've enjoyed the most
is the unpredictability of it, where you don't you have
a basic idea of the matchup. You have a basic
idea of the flow of the game, but then once
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it's kicked off, no different than a player, nobody can
sit there and say, I know exactly how this game
is going to go, and I'm going to talk about X,
Y and Z in that order. Chances are that's going
to be thrown upside down, and then you have to
adjust on the fly and make it sound fun and interesting.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
I had a couple of rapid fire questions before we
let you go. Who feels more hall of fate? Who
feels more hall of faming? Matthew Stafford or Russell Wilson.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
Wow, that's a great question.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Kind of interesting career arcs, right, Like Russell started out
so hot and now down the stretch trying to find
his way. Stafford obviously started in a perennially terrible organ team,
got them a little bit better, and then has had
his success later. Oh man, I think creatures of the
moment Stafford. It feels like because just because the last
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memories we have of his teams have been more relevant
as of recent Russ. For as amazing as Russ has
been a lot of you know, his success came. That's
a really good question. But I think if you put
a gun to my head, just recency bias would be Stafford.
But I would probably make the argument that they both
are deserving.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
If I take the names off the resumes, it's a
no brainer. It's Russell Wilson.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
Interesting, that's what I like.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Yeah, the Pro Bowls, I think it's recency bias, which
was kind of my initial instinct with Stafford. In my mind,
there's no question that Russell Wilson is a Hall of Famer.
I think everyone's going to try to use the last
couple of years of kind of bouncing finding a home,
but they forget just how dominant he was. I know
Seattle was incredible, I know the defense, but that shouldn't
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be taken away. In my mind, Russell is a Hall
of Famer. The way you pose the question you posed
was such a good one. I think the recency success
of the Rams, the Super Bowl, and Stafford Post Detroit,
I can see that being the argument.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Is Cam Newton a Hall of Famer?
Speaker 4 (14:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (14:36):
In my mind he is, and I think you have
to look past I don't know where. I have no
idea where he stands in total yards passing and total touchdowns.
I don't know statistically, which I know is a big
part of that process. When you talk about changing the
way the game is played, quarterbacks running the ball on
short yardage, quarterbacks playing you know, down near the goal line,
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ability to still be a four thousand yard passer from
the pocket. When he came into the league, there was
very few, if any guys playing the quarterback position the
way he played it, and now there's almost no pocket
passers left. There's you Burrow, there's a couple. But the
game is played on the move. The game is played athletically.
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It both in and out of the pocket. And Cam
was at the front end of a lot of that.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Great stuff. Great to talk to you. I hope you
have a great season coming up. We'll check in with
you and the podcast. It's a weekly podcast. It's entitled
Youth Inc. With Greg Olsen. Next guest will be Ryan Day. CJ.
Stroud is also on the guest list, and he's already
had podcast tape with Tom Brady and the author Malcolm Gladwell.
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Thanks again, Greg Great Svennell, Thanks man.
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Speaker 2 (16:02):
Mark Pryor, God, you're pitching coach since twenty eighteen and
back on the program. Been a while. How are you.
Speaker 6 (16:10):
I'm doing well, it has been a while. Thanks for
having me.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
What is your job during a game as pitching coach?
Speaker 7 (16:22):
Well, I mean yeah, I mean basically, obviously I'm watching
the game and then you know, tracking pitches, talking with
the pitcher in between innings, talking with the catcher in
between innings, seen talking and trying to.
Speaker 6 (16:36):
Figure out like what's working, what's not working?
Speaker 7 (16:38):
You know, do we have an idea what they're trying
to do from an offensive approach with our pitcher, and
then maybe you know, starting a game plan, you know,
what's going on? What do we want to do the
next time through? Like who's coming up? How do we
want to attack them? Do we want to you know,
do we kind of want to stay with the plan
before the game? Do we want to you know, do
something different and audible change some things up. And so
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those are kind of a lot of the in game
conversations with your pitcher and with the catcher.
Speaker 6 (17:08):
And then as a game gets going on, and.
Speaker 7 (17:10):
Say your starter starts getting towards the end, and the
conversations with you know what doc start happening.
Speaker 6 (17:17):
We start kind of going over like how do we
want to.
Speaker 7 (17:19):
Approach you know, the end of the game, the end
of the starter's run, you know, do we need to
get them out of the middle of an inning? If
he finishes an inning, how do we how do we
set up our bullpen going forward? Hopefully we got the
lead and we've talked before the game, you know, myself,
doc or bench coach or bullpen coaches, you know who's.
Speaker 6 (17:39):
Available, who do we feel good about throwing?
Speaker 7 (17:42):
And so those A lot of it's just an ongoing
conversation as the game evolves, and and and honestly what
the game is telling us, what do we need in
that moment, and just making sure that we're prepared, uh,
to make decisions because it happens fast.
Speaker 6 (17:55):
Once once your starter's out, it happens fast.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
How much of your job is to be a therapist?
Speaker 6 (18:02):
Uh, there's a there's a good percentage of it.
Speaker 7 (18:04):
Some nights it's uh, it's small, and then other nights,
I think it can it can be a lot. And
you're just trying to you know, there's so much preparation
that these guys do on a get excuse me, on
a given day, and they're always getting their bodies ready.
They're always studying and making sure they're prepared. But as
you know, you you've covered sports, like you know, there's
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no script. Once you get Once the game starts, things happen,
and it's getting guys to find a way to win
ball games and find ways to get outs. Uh, And
sometimes it's ugly, and and when it's ugly, obviously guys
and as athletes, you you want to be perfectionists. You know,
we want things to go the way that we envision
them to go, and and sometimes that doesn't happen, and
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we have to be okay with that at times. And
you're just trying to get them to understand, like the job,
what was your job?
Speaker 6 (18:54):
Did you do your job?
Speaker 5 (18:55):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (18:56):
And then let's pick up the pieces and move forward
the next day. And you know, a lot of the
game is mental and emotional. These guys are really unbelievable
elead athletes, but so much of it comes down to
how can you maintain maintain your emotions in the moment
and how can you just continue to try to execute
pitches to get the other hitter out.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
How many of your players, your pitchers know your resume.
Speaker 7 (19:25):
I want to say, given that their cell phones were
always at hand, I want to say, there's at least
they've googled me at some point. Certain key facts do
do come up where they are surprised we.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Will come up first, but that they would bring up to.
Speaker 7 (19:41):
You usually it's it's the infamous game in two thousand
and three, that'll maybe be on in the clubhouse and
then all of a sudden they'll kind of put two
and two together of oh, you were the guy on
the mound. You didn't you know? We didn't know that.
So that's always the surprise one where you're kind of like, yeah,
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that's me.
Speaker 6 (20:03):
That was twenty some years ago.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
So but what do you remember about that? When you
bring up the Bartman game?
Speaker 4 (20:09):
You don't bring it up.
Speaker 6 (20:11):
I don't bring it up TV.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
You you brought up that. They brought it up right
right now. I can follow up by saying, when I
say that game and you're on the mound and you
see that foul ball going over, what do you think?
Speaker 7 (20:26):
You know, just like darn it? I wish I wish
we caught it. And uh, Marlins had a good team,
they had a good run. So I you know, it's
it's been so long ago that any you know, I mean,
it was obviously a game. I still feel you really
think you said darn it. No, I didn't say darn words,
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but I don't, you know, I think I pointed and.
Speaker 6 (20:51):
Said some things, and you.
Speaker 7 (20:54):
Know, I mean, look, it comes up every day in
the games. I mean it came up in the Giants
Padrey game yesterday. You know, it's still hows and it looks.
It's it's the beauty of baseball that all these things
can but through the course of time of this game
and how many games have been played, that plays like
that still happen. And that's why it's great. It's it's
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played by humans. There's there's a lot of great things
that happen. There's crazy plays that happen every night in
the game, and so I think that's what makes people
love the game because every single night you show up,
things are you know, things happen as you don't expect,
and then things that you think shouldn't happen because everybody's
seen it happen before and you know you shouldn't do
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it, it happens again. So it's it's the beauty of the game.
It's it's what what pete draws people to it. It's
what people love about it. But it's also what can
be maddening at time, depending on which side of the
fan base you're on.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
I'm talking to Mark Prior, Dodgers pitching coach since twenty eighteen,
Dodgers at the Rockies tonight at eight forty Eastern Who
does Otani remind you of Wise.
Speaker 7 (22:03):
Well, nobody, because nobody, uh, nobody hits as much as
well as he does as a pitcher. Though I did
see a stat the other day that Freddy Jenkins had
I think thirteen homers as a cup, so I guess
he had some had some good power numbers.
Speaker 6 (22:15):
But uh, just.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
His pitching style, who is.
Speaker 7 (22:18):
You know, it's a little bit, Uh, it's got a
little bit of Nolan in him, like where he's just
gonna you know, and I know I'm dating myself, but
I grew up watching Nolan and at the tail end
of his career, and you know, like he if he
wants to just rear back and blow it by you, like,
he's going to do it. And I think we've seen
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that where obviously he has a very good and a
very nasty sweeper, but if he wants it, he's going
to get a hundred and he's gonna throw a rye
past you. And uh, I think the the bat and
he hit an a bat in Kansas City. I think
it was like a second or third outing, you know.
And he's been kind of in the mid nineties and
all of a sudden, you know, guy comes up and
he's like, here you go, here's three hundred mile an
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hour pitches, and so, uh, you know, you don't. We
have a lot of guys who throw extremely hard in
this league, and so the velocity is not nothing or
it isn't isn't as exciting and unexpected, I guess is
a better way to say that it used to be.
But all of a sudden, this dude just out of
nowhere as one hundred hundred and one hundred and two.
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And so that reminds me of watching Nolan when I
was a kid, where it was just like, all right,
I know he knows I'm throwing a fastball, and here
it is, and see what you can do with it.
Speaker 6 (23:31):
Uh, And that's pretty cool.
Speaker 7 (23:33):
I mean it's it's still as a as a coach,
it's one thing, but it's really really as a fan
to watch him do what he does is pretty awesome.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
How would you pitch to Tani?
Speaker 6 (23:44):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (23:46):
Well, as a pitching coach, we tried unsuccessfully at times,
you know. I mean, look, I was a two pitch pitcher,
so you know, it's trying to move my fastball around
and throw my breaking ball and try to change the
shape and uh, you know, I try to go you know,
up and in and slow him down, down and away, and.
Speaker 6 (24:06):
You know, maybe just trying to use all four quadrants.
Speaker 7 (24:08):
I mean, he's he's when he's any, when he's in
a groove, there's no pitch that he can't cover.
Speaker 6 (24:15):
And I think that's what makes him special.
Speaker 7 (24:17):
You can throw it one hundred miles an hour up
and away and he'll go backside left field home or
twenty rows deep.
Speaker 6 (24:22):
You can go down and in at one hundred he'll
pull a ball.
Speaker 7 (24:25):
He'll take off speed, you know, with ass out like
he did the other day, completely like lost his entire body,
and he still hits it one hundred and five.
Speaker 6 (24:36):
Uh, and it gets over the fence.
Speaker 7 (24:37):
So you hope that you catch if you're an opposing pitcher,
you hope that you catch him when he's in when
he swings a little bit off. But right now it
looks like he's starting to get his swing going again,
and he's doing some pretty incredible things. And and just
the way he impacts the baseball. He that's the crazy
thing is watching other big leaguers in the dugout marble
about how hard he hits the ball.
Speaker 6 (24:59):
And that's that's the thing that is just like jaw dropping.
Speaker 7 (25:03):
It's not that it's the power and the average, it's
this guy's out.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
You know.
Speaker 7 (25:08):
It seems like he's averaging one hundred and ten off
the bat every single time. And guys are like big
lead guys are extremely like in awe watching how hard
he hits the ball, even if it's an out. It's
it's insane.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Yeah, I remarked or marveled at that a couple of
years ago. If I'm just listening to guys hit, there
are certain guys when you hear him hit, that's different
than everybody else. And he's one of those guys. Anybody
else come to mind that when you hear that ball
off the bat, you know.
Speaker 7 (25:37):
You know, yeah, I mean there's a couple of years
ago Ronald Laconia hit a ball.
Speaker 6 (25:42):
I forget.
Speaker 7 (25:42):
It was like either like one seventeen or one nineteen
or something. You hit a ball at Dodger Stadium and
it just sounded like a shotgun. It was a home
or a dead center. And he can impact the baseball
extremely hard. You know, Freddy, you know, you know Freddy.
He can move some balls forward all over the field.
But when he impacts the baseball at times, it comes
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off really hot.
Speaker 6 (26:08):
I'm trying to think, uh, you.
Speaker 7 (26:10):
Know, Machado Tatis, but Judge is another guy too when
he when he connects Stanton, those guys are they impact
the baseball extremely hard. And I'm sure there was guys
when I played who hit the ball just as hard
as they did, but it sure doesn't. You know, we
didn't have the numbers to quantify it as much. But
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these guys, a lot of a lot of players nowadays
are really impacting the baseball.
Speaker 6 (26:34):
And you know, it's scary out there.
Speaker 7 (26:36):
You're only sixty feet away, so I mean, it's it's
a little dangerous at times.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Can you see a scenario in the postseason where Otani
comes in in relief.
Speaker 6 (26:47):
It's a good question, very fair question.
Speaker 7 (26:49):
We've it's been discussed, and it's really understanding kind of
the rules of him coming in as a reliever and
knowing that because of.
Speaker 6 (26:59):
The world it's set up right now, as a starter.
Speaker 7 (27:02):
He can come out of the game and still maintain
as a DH, but he comes in as a reliever.
You got to find that line and where hopefully the
game is because you can't put him in in sixth
and then take him out as a pitcher in seventh
and keep him in as a DH. So it would
have to be a situation where it was probably we
think the game's over and he's closing or be okay
with him not coming, not hitting anymore.
Speaker 6 (27:23):
So that would be really the only scenario. Can I
see it?
Speaker 7 (27:26):
Absolutely, But it would probably be closer to the back
end when the game's you know, kind of on the line,
and it would be over after he's done.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Great to catch up with you again, Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 6 (27:38):
Mark anytime. I appreciate it. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
It's Mark Pryor.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 8 (27:52):
He's Mike Carmen.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
I'm Dan Byern.
Speaker 8 (27:54):
We have a brand new fantasy football podcast called I
Want Your Flex. Twice a week, every Tuesday and Friday,
we come up with new episodes to not only look
back at what happened, what you need to do at
that minute, and also look ahead of what's coming up
in the fantasy football world.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
That's right, Dan.
Speaker 9 (28:12):
Every week we're gonna scour the waiver wire to find
the pickups to turbot boost your fantasy lineup, sit starts,
fantasy football players rankings to get you ready to dominate
the competition.
Speaker 8 (28:23):
Listen to I Want Your Flex with Mike Carmon and
me Dan Beyer on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast and
wherever you get your podcasts.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Let's bring in Ross Tucker, host of the Ross Hooker
Football podcast, and he called the Browns Eagles game last Saturday.
He's got the Eagles at the Jets on Friday night.
Hi Ross, how are you?
Speaker 6 (28:43):
Dan?
Speaker 4 (28:43):
I'm fantastic. I think I have better reception than that guy.
I think I'm ready to go.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Most interesting team in the NFL is who.
Speaker 10 (28:53):
Who. There's a bunch of different ways I could go
with that one, you know, I think I'm gonna go
with I'm gonna go with the team I just saw
on Saturday, the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
I'm fascinated by them. I said this today on the
Ross Tucker Football Podcast.
Speaker 10 (29:10):
Dan, I think there's a real possibility, probably unlikely, but
there's a possibility that they become the first team in
NFL history to have four different quarterbacks start at least
four games.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
Now, hear me out on this okay.
Speaker 10 (29:27):
First of all, when they made the trade with the Jaguars,
the Travis Hunter trade to move down pick up next
year's first round pick.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
That's a loud signal.
Speaker 10 (29:38):
To everybody that we're looking at this over the next
few years.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
We're not all going to try to win this year, etc.
So we all get that. I understand why they're starting
to flock over at the start of the year. They
have a tough schedule.
Speaker 10 (29:53):
They can sell the vets that we went to the
playoffs a couple of years ago with him, he gives
us the best chance to win.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
But they traded for Kenny Pickett for a reason.
Speaker 10 (30:03):
And I think deep down Stefanski thinks that maybe Kenny
Pickett could be his Sam Darnold, his Baker Mayfield. I
mean now that one of those guys started to really
click until they were on their fourth team. This is
Kenny's third team, and I think in Stefanski's offense, I
believe he thinks he can get Kenny Pickett to play
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at a pretty high level. I'm not sure I really
believe that Kenny can do that. But then they also
drafted a couple of rookies and that's been well documented
Dylan Gabriel in the third round. They obviously like Shdoor
Sanders only played one preseason game in the fifth round,
but he played well.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
People want to see what he has.
Speaker 10 (30:44):
So I think there's a reasonable scenario where Flacco starts.
The first is called three or four, they're zero to three,
one and three whatever. They put picket in to see
how he looks, take him for a spin, and then
they want to try to find out about both Gabriel
and Shor Sanders. Maybe they hit on one of those guys,
maybe one of them looks like a very good, inexpensive backup,
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but they kind of need to find out about both
those guys before next year's first round, where they have
two first round picks, they might both be in the
top ten. They're highly likely if they didn't hit on
any of these guys, to get a franchise quarterback or
try to in the top ten next year. So the
Browns might set a very interesting record in terms of
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the number of quarterbacks to start multiple games in the season.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
I always look or like to look at coaching staffs
to see what decisions they make with their quarterbacks, like
the Giants with Brian Dable Jackson dark to me makes
more sense. I don't think they're going to be that
good of a team. But these you know, this coach
wants to keep his job with a very difficult schedule,
the Colt situation, Shane Steikin wants to keep his job,
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the Browns situation, that coach wants to keep his job
as well. And as a result, you got Russell Wilson,
Daniel Jones, and then you're gonna have Joe Flacco. I
don't think it's a surprise that they're going with somebody
who's a little more proven and they can't really roll
the dice on somebody younger.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
What do you think, Well, and here's what's interesting.
Speaker 10 (32:19):
I tend to think, by the way, that the Browns
will probably give Stefanski and the GM Andrew.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
Berry another year. Otherwise, why would those guys.
Speaker 10 (32:30):
Have made that trade that they made unless Dan they
think that making that trade helps them get another year, right,
Like maybe it's the chicken in the egg thing. The
coach thing, to me is like the perfect example, okay
of the dichotomy between fans, media, and to some extent
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even some scouts in front office executives versus coach. I
have seen this as long as I've been around the NFL. Right, fans, media,
some front office executives, they love upside, they love physical traits,
they love potential, they love guys like Anthony Richardson right.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
Meanwhile, coaches, you know what they love.
Speaker 10 (33:21):
They love guys that they can trust, that are able
to execute the concepts that they're given and that the
plays that are called. Guys that obviously are consistent. That's
what coaches value.
Speaker 5 (33:38):
You know.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
I know this, Dan.
Speaker 10 (33:40):
Multiple times in my career, I was told by an
assistant coach, Hey, the front office hates you like or
this guy hates you, but the coach is always like,
I was never the high upside guy. I was never
the traits guy. I was never someone that you get excited.
Oh yes, Ross Tucker and his short arms and average
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athleticsism starting like nobody ever felt that way. But the
coaches they knew. I wasn't gonna be the reason why
we lost. I was gonna do the right thing every
time they could trust me. I was gonna play as
hard as I possibly can. I was consistent, and ultimately,
coaches have to win. It's year three for Shane Steichen.
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He needs to win this year. If he thought that
Anthony Richardson would help them win more games this year,
I can assure you he would be starting.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
He doesn't now remember this too, Dan, People lose sight
of this.
Speaker 10 (34:36):
You know, when the announcements made yesterday, I called that
coach Titans game for CBS last year late in the season.
It had been a week or two earlier that several
of the veterans had sat down with Anthony Richardson to
go over with him what the standard should be and
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what their expectation.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
This is more than halfway through his second year.
Speaker 10 (35:04):
To Forrest Buckner and Quentin Nelson, those guys, this is
out there, it's public.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
They had to sit down and say, like, listen and
walk throughs.
Speaker 10 (35:13):
You need to be like this, you know, after practice,
you need to do stuff like this.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
You know.
Speaker 10 (35:18):
Unfortunately, he's a really gifted, talented, but young, immature kid
who has gotten hurt a bunch doesn't really understand what
it means they be professional.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
I don't know if he knows that now or not.
Speaker 10 (35:32):
But Shane Siken not waiting around to find out right,
Like Shane Sikeen's like, you know what, Daniel Jones, he
can win.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
I saw with the Giants and my system. He'll win.
He'll do what I ask of him. He's a pro.
Speaker 10 (35:45):
I'm attaching my life, my family's livelihood, my kids, where
I'm going to live next year. I'm going to put
more faith in trust in Daniel Jones that he'll give
me a better chance to stay living in Indianapolis, Indiana
next year than Richardson.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Talking to Ron Stucker the Ron Tucker Football Podcast, and
he had Browns Eagles last Saturday. He's got the Eagles
hit the Jets coming up on Friday night. Would you
rather have the career of Joe Flacco or Philip Rivers.
Speaker 10 (36:19):
Joe Flacco, Yeah, now listen, Philip Rivers, I think is
a better player.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
I think Philip Rivers has.
Speaker 10 (36:28):
A better chance, maybe a really good chance to be
a Hall of Famer. But in my first of all,
Philip Rivers never got to play in a Super Bowl, right,
so forget even winning it. You either have experience playing
in the Super Bowl or you haven't.
Speaker 4 (36:47):
I haven't. I've talked to guys that have.
Speaker 10 (36:49):
It's like a line of demarcation as an NFL player,
you either played in.
Speaker 4 (36:54):
The super Bowl or you didn't.
Speaker 10 (36:55):
And then Flaco first of all, Flaco made a ton
of money. They probably made around the same money, and
Flacco is still going by the way. But Flacco won
a Super Bowl. And no matter how good an individual
career is, there is nothing like winning a championship.
Speaker 4 (37:13):
I can speak to this, Dan. I am so glad I.
Speaker 10 (37:16):
Got a chance to play college football and very thankful
for seven years in the NFL. In eighteen years of football,
I won one championship. It was my junior year of
high school. It was thirty years ago. Okay, it was
nineteen ninety five. I can tell you about every one
of those games. I can tell you about those guys.
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When I go back to my hometown, okay, and I
go to Third and Spruce, or I go to any
of these bars and I see these guys. Right, I
am not friends with these guys. I don't text them,
I don't even have their numbers. But when I see them,
we give each other a hug and we ms about
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what it was like to win the Burkes Ic championship
in ninety five, what it was like to beat Governor Mifflin.
There is nothing an individual accomplishment, in my experience, can
never even come close to the shared joy and the
shared experience of a team accomplishment.
Speaker 4 (38:23):
Give me the team accomplishment and winning the.
Speaker 10 (38:25):
Super Bowl and the bond that you have with those
guys forever over anything individual.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
Joe Flacco or Dan Marino's careers.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
Okay, are we talking careers.
Speaker 10 (38:37):
We're talking lifestyle because I've thought about this, and being
Dan Marino in Miami in the eighties had to be really,
really fun.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
It might still be.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
I mean, I mean, did I've said this? Okay, this
is a great topic for the rest of the show.
I'll program the next thirty minutes. Paul's not doing his
job anyway.
Speaker 10 (38:57):
Okay, if you could be any athlete in any era,
at any time, for everything that went along with it. Okay,
I'm just sitting here thinking Dan Marino in the eighties
in Miami, like Miami.
Speaker 4 (39:14):
Vice, like stuff off the field.
Speaker 10 (39:17):
I mean, Dan Marino had a top five life of
any athlete I can even fathom for what that must
have been like for him.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
So Joe Flacco, I mean, great Baltimore.
Speaker 10 (39:28):
I would rather have probably Joe Flacco's career, but I'd
rather I'd rather have lived Dan Marino's life.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
Safe travels. Great to talk to you as always thanks
for joining us, all right, see you guys. That's Ros
Tucker
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Greg Olsen, he's a Fox analyst, three time pro bowler
joining us on the program. What was your best salary
in the NFL?
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Say, towards the end of my career, I probably was
making seven million, and now the best tight ends in
the league are making sixteen.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Did you ever participate in negotiations, be in the room
when they're discussing your contract.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
No.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
No, My agent, Drew Rosenhause. I had him since I
came out of Miami. He handled all negotiations. I mean,
I was up to speed. He would call me and
debrief me in pretty good detail along the you know,
along what was said and what the conversations in the
back and forth.
Speaker 5 (00:45):
But no, I never participated directly.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
I tried to stay out of that and just let
him handle kind of being the go between between myself
and the organization.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Why is Jerry Jones allowed to negotiate with Michaeh Parsons
individually when I think the CBA says, your agent has
to be in there to, you know, negotiate.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
That's a great question, and I thought all along that
was a very interesting part of the conversation. I know
you guys now are bringing it up and discussing it.
I don't I don't know the exact reasons. I don't
know the exact legalities of what's in the CBA by writing.
But my understanding was always players can represent themselves. There's
multiple players throughout the league for a long time that
have negotiated their own contracts because they don't have a
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registered contract agent on file with the NFLPA or you
know all that. So in that regard, you would work
directly with the general manager of the front office to
negotiate on your own behalf. But my understanding was if
you had representation and that was filed with the with
the PA and all that, that they should be the
go between. So I'm not sure the exact specifics, but
(01:52):
I think it's a great question. I just think it
adds to what we're seeing now. It leads to this,
This is why players have agents. And I know three
is kicked around and that's being now negotiated to a
lower number for a lot of young players, and I
get it, but this is why you pay the money
to keep the personal animosity out of the way between you.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
These contracts get tough.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Whether you're Patrick Mahomes or Josh Allen or Micah Parsons
or a guy further down the roster. The team is
going to use every bit of leverage they had. They're
gonna tell your agent or in this case, yourself, reasons
why you shouldn't make what you want, and then you're
going to try to counter that, and it's gonna get testy.
It's inevitable nature of negotiations, and that's why having that
buffer in between keeps things from getting personal like we're
(02:37):
seeing here in Dallas.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
More concerning, let's take Michael Parsons out of the equation,
because I do think that deal will get done. The
Trey Hendrickson with the Bengals or Terry McLaurin, which one
is more damaging to that team's potential success this season? Man,
that's a great question.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
I would say Hendrickson up in Cincinnati, just because we
know how much conver station that has surrounded the Bengals defense.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
They fired the DC, they hire.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Al Golden, you know, the longtime college DC from Penn State,
who was most recently at Penn State, I mean a
Notre dame. I guess my question is can that defense
be they weren't very good to begin with last year,
and Joe Burrow had an unbelievable season, and they still
fell short of expectations. With the whole emphasis in the
offseason for them getting back into the likes of the
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Bills and the Ravens and the Chiefs to get themselves
back in the AFC to that echelon with Joe Burrow.
They can't do it without the defense getting better. And
now you take away the sack leader, you take away
your best defensive player. Can you assume that you're going
to be back in Super Bowl contention to compliment one
of the best offenses in football? So I would say
for them, this is a significant storyline. And if they
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can't figure it out what was already a weakness, now
you take away your best player, you have to assume
it's even worse.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Help me understand why Anthony Richardson would be the bust
and not the Colts general manager Chris Ballard because Anthony
Richardson didn't take himself at four overall the Colts did.
They took a project that high. Who wasn't he had
glimpses in college. But you start in week one like
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I'm just trying to under and the kid is twenty
three years of age, and it feels like the NFL
will move on from him.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Yeah, and I'll again, this is not an indictment of
Anthony Richardson. I don't know the kid that well. I
don't know the ins and outs behind the scenes there.
But I will say this in credit to Chris Ballard.
I think the best guys in the NFL, whether it's coaches,
front office, personnel, general managers, when you know you've made
a mistake, I think the teams that continue to double down,
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double down and prolong this experiment end up finding themselves
out of work. I think the best organizations understand, you
know what, this was a miss and now this is
a big one. Right you take a top five quarterback,
it's set your franchise back multiple years. But if you
continue to push it down the road and said it's
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gonna change, it's gonna change. And I can't admit failure.
I can't admit that I was wrong. Typically that blows
up the entire organization. And there's another general manager there,
so I do give him a little bit credit. It's
behind the scenes him and Shane steich In are saying,
you know what, we missed. He's not the guy. Daniel
Jones gives us a better chance to win. I almost
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think that's the more difficult decision, and one that they
if it was even close, Anthony Richardson, just because of
his draft pedigree, would be the Week one starter. So
I think we see this all the time in free agency.
The Eagles just won the Super Bowl and huffed their
big free agents. Signing from the Jets, they paid a
bazillion dollars, he didn't play down the stretch, and guess
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what this year they shipped him off for pennies on
the dollar to another organization. And Howie Roseman said, you
know what, I missed on that one, But we're gonna
move on. So it's different when it's the quarterback. But
the good organizations admit defeat, They admit when they were wrong,
and you got to move on.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
I think that's really a great point and I had
not thought of that, and maybe that's what the Colts
are doing that. Yes, we saw two years and he's
not our guy. Now maybe you can trade him to somebody,
and maybe he could. We're you know, we're seeing this
cycle now far more than we used to two years,
maybe three years didn't work out. Now you go, you're
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going to be a backup, and it's like almost the
Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield, Gino Smith. You know, well, we'll
bring you back around. Maybe it's a better coaching staff,
maybe it's a better team, and maybe Anthony Richardson still
has a future. We're talking to Greg Olsen, Fox NFL
analyst and you can tune in to Youth Inc. And
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Greg has a weekly podcast. He had Tom Brady on,
Malcolm Gladwell on, and you're talking about sports and parenting
and the next generation of athletes. How'd you come up
with this idea?
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Yeah, so it's actually been a really a really fun
project for us. You know, I'm a dad of three.
I'm the son of a high school football coach from
New Jersey, legendary coach out of the Northeast, coached over
forty years, coach me and my brother. So I grew
up in this world. Like when I was a young kid,
the highlight of our life was playing varsity football one
day for my dad. Fortunately I was able to go
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on and make a career out of it. But now
as a father raising three young kids in a very
different youth sports culture, than any of us, remember, and
any of us really grew up in and there was
a lot of things that we were doing wrong, a
lot of things that I didn't have a great idea
of what the right path forward was for my sons
and my daughter. And we said, you know what, there's
a lot of really interesting people out there that have
(07:41):
great perspectives and great lessons to be shared, and let's
go find those people. So we've had a lot of
really cool conversations our latest season that we just dropped.
You know, you mentioned Tom Brady. We had Malcolm Gladwell
this year. This week and next week we'll have Ryan
Day coming off the National champions getting ready for that
big Texas game, and CJ. Stroud and just some really
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fun and really insightful people that have really good experiences
that can be great for parents, coaches, young athletes, people
dealing with different adversities. We think it can really help
a lot of people. And along the way, as the
host quote unquote, I'm learning more than anyone and trying
to implement a lot of these values and lessons into
my own youth coaching and also into just my parenting.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
It's a youth inc I n C. And it's a
weekly podcast. I was curious about this when we were
going to have you on of how much of your
job now as a broadcaster for Fox is your football
knowledge and how much of it is the ability to
understand TV. Well.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
I think it's a great question because I joke with
my producer and director all the time, like the football
part I always felt pretty good about. You know, the
football part, I felt like I always understood and I
saw and I really enjoy talking the game and formulating
different storylines to present to the viewer and letting them
kind of unravel in real time during the broadcast. The
TV part is the part I think all of us
(09:09):
have to learn, right. You have to learn how to
go in and out of commercial breaks. You have to
learn how to talk to the truck.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
You know.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
I always joke like, still to this point day, when
I want it behind the defense, you know the fancy
TV people call it. You know, I want the pit,
you know, I want pit framing. I'm like, I just
want behind the defense, whatever that is called.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
Give me that.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
So I'm still learning some of the nuance, the terminology
where all the cameras are, and I've gotten a lot
better now. Going into my fifth year. But it's it's
very interesting. The football part. I feel like that's that's
the easy part, making that fit into a three hour
live broadcast, talk in segments, talking soundbites, not talking over
your play by play, commercial breaks, ad reads. Fortunately, I've
(09:52):
had great partners. I got Joe Davis now, who's incredible,
Kevin Burkhart before that, they handle all the TV and
I tell him I'll just do the football part.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
So I've been lucky in that regard.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Well, you're on a play clock too, though, when you
think about it, that you might have twelve seconds to
describe something and then you got to turn it over
to your play by play guy so he can do
his job. And this is where Jim nance is unbelievable
because Tony Romo. Tony will kind of color outside the
line sometime and all of a sudden, you know, Jim's
(10:23):
got to grab it at the last second and you know,
go third and eight. You know. So I understand the
timing part of it, But so many guys that came
through ESPN. These are legendary coaches and players, and I said,
you got to understand TV, and even Rodney Harrison and
Tony Dungee on football night in America. I said, you
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guys are rookies. You know nothing about TV. Listen to
me and you'll do fine. You know football, But that's
only part of the equation. They'd look at you, go you.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
Just talk, I go no.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
If if somebody in your ear goes, hey, you got
twenty seconds to what twenty seconds is in real time?
Playing a game? You do twenty seconds in TV You're like, uh,
I don't know how long? How long am I going?
You went forty two seconds?
Speaker 1 (11:10):
I did it?
Speaker 3 (11:12):
No, And you're spot on, And the voice in your
ear is an adjustment early on in my career. The
natural instinct of anybody is when someone says something to
you while you're talking, you stop and you want to listen.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
Well, obviously you sound silly on live television.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
If you do that. To your point about play by
play guys, there's no such thing as a good color
analyst without a good play by play guy. They are
the heroes of all of this. They are the professionals
quote unquote, like they keep this train on the tracks
running and give you the space and the breath and
the leads to then talk about the things that they
really know you're interested in or you feel good about,
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and you want to take the broadcast. So it is
more of a dance. It is a rhythm. It's ever changing.
Every game has a different cadence. There's games that have
a million penalties, million commercial breaks and a million injuries.
Those get super choppy, and then there's the dream games,
which every play is a long, fluid drive. There's multiple
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first downs in every possession. You can really let some
of these storylines unravel. You don't feel like you have
to force it in because it's a three and out
punt commercial. So again, it's it's a part of the
The part of the experience that I've enjoyed the most
is the unpredictability of it, where you don't you have
a basic idea of the matchup. You have a basic
idea of the flow of the game, but then once
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it's kicked off, no different than a player, nobody can
sit there and say, I know exactly how this game
is going to go, and I'm going to talk about X,
Y and Z in that order. Chances are that's going
to be thrown upside down, and then you have to
adjust on the fly and make it sound fun and interesting.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
I had a couple of rapid fire questions before we
let you go. Who feels more hall of fate? Who
feels more hall of faming? Matthew Stafford or Russell Wilson.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
Wow, that's a great question.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Kind of interesting career arcs, right, Like Russell started out
so hot and now down the stretch trying to find
his way. Stafford obviously started in a perennially terrible organ team,
got them a little bit better, and then has had
his success later. Oh man, I think creatures of the
moment Stafford. It feels like because just because the last
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memories we have of his teams have been more relevant
as of recent Russ. For as amazing as Russ has
been a lot of you know, his success came. That's
a really good question. But I think if you put
a gun to my head, just recency bias would be Stafford.
But I would probably make the argument that they both
are deserving.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
If I take the names off the resumes, it's a
no brainer. It's Russell Wilson.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
Interesting, that's what I like.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Yeah, the Pro Bowls, I think it's recency bias, which
was kind of my initial instinct with Stafford. In my mind,
there's no question that Russell Wilson is a Hall of Famer.
I think everyone's going to try to use the last
couple of years of kind of bouncing finding a home,
but they forget just how dominant he was. I know
Seattle was incredible, I know the defense, but that shouldn't
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be taken away. In my mind, Russell is a Hall
of Famer. The way you pose the question you posed
was such a good one. I think the recency success
of the Rams, the Super Bowl, and Stafford Post Detroit,
I can see that being the argument.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Is Cam Newton a Hall of Famer?
Speaker 4 (14:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (14:36):
In my mind he is, and I think you have
to look past I don't know where. I have no
idea where he stands in total yards passing and total touchdowns.
I don't know statistically, which I know is a big
part of that process. When you talk about changing the
way the game is played, quarterbacks running the ball on
short yardage, quarterbacks playing you know, down near the goal line,
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ability to still be a four thousand yard passer from
the pocket. When he came into the league, there was
very few, if any guys playing the quarterback position the
way he played it, and now there's almost no pocket
passers left. There's you Burrow, there's a couple. But the
game is played on the move. The game is played athletically.
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It both in and out of the pocket. And Cam
was at the front end of a lot of that.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Great stuff. Great to talk to you. I hope you
have a great season coming up. We'll check in with
you and the podcast. It's a weekly podcast. It's entitled
Youth Inc. With Greg Olsen. Next guest will be Ryan Day. CJ.
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had podcast tape with Tom Brady and the author Malcolm Gladwell.
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Speaker 2 (16:02):
Mark Pryor, God, you're pitching coach since twenty eighteen and
back on the program. Been a while. How are you.
Speaker 6 (16:10):
I'm doing well, it has been a while. Thanks for
having me.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
What is your job during a game as pitching coach?
Speaker 7 (16:22):
Well, I mean yeah, I mean basically, obviously I'm watching
the game and then you know, tracking pitches, talking with
the pitcher in between innings, talking with the catcher in
between innings, seen talking and trying to.
Speaker 6 (16:36):
Figure out like what's working, what's not working?
Speaker 7 (16:38):
You know, do we have an idea what they're trying
to do from an offensive approach with our pitcher, and
then maybe you know, starting a game plan, you know,
what's going on? What do we want to do the
next time through? Like who's coming up? How do we
want to attack them? Do we want to you know,
do we kind of want to stay with the plan
before the game? Do we want to you know, do
something different and audible change some things up. And so
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those are kind of a lot of the in game
conversations with your pitcher and with the catcher.
Speaker 6 (17:08):
And then as a game gets going on, and.
Speaker 7 (17:10):
Say your starter starts getting towards the end, and the
conversations with you know what doc start happening.
Speaker 6 (17:17):
We start kind of going over like how do we
want to.
Speaker 7 (17:19):
Approach you know, the end of the game, the end
of the starter's run, you know, do we need to
get them out of the middle of an inning? If
he finishes an inning, how do we how do we
set up our bullpen going forward? Hopefully we got the
lead and we've talked before the game, you know, myself,
doc or bench coach or bullpen coaches, you know who's.
Speaker 6 (17:39):
Available, who do we feel good about throwing?
Speaker 7 (17:42):
And so those A lot of it's just an ongoing
conversation as the game evolves, and and and honestly what
the game is telling us, what do we need in
that moment, and just making sure that we're prepared, uh,
to make decisions because it happens fast.
Speaker 6 (17:55):
Once once your starter's out, it happens fast.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
How much of your job is to be a therapist?
Speaker 6 (18:02):
Uh, there's a there's a good percentage of it.
Speaker 7 (18:04):
Some nights it's uh, it's small, and then other nights,
I think it can it can be a lot. And
you're just trying to you know, there's so much preparation
that these guys do on a get excuse me, on
a given day, and they're always getting their bodies ready.
They're always studying and making sure they're prepared. But as
you know, you you've covered sports, like you know, there's
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no script. Once you get Once the game starts, things happen,
and it's getting guys to find a way to win
ball games and find ways to get outs. Uh, And
sometimes it's ugly, and and when it's ugly, obviously guys
and as athletes, you you want to be perfectionists. You know,
we want things to go the way that we envision
them to go, and and sometimes that doesn't happen, and
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we have to be okay with that at times. And
you're just trying to get them to understand, like the job,
what was your job?
Speaker 6 (18:54):
Did you do your job?
Speaker 5 (18:55):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (18:56):
And then let's pick up the pieces and move forward
the next day. And you know, a lot of the
game is mental and emotional. These guys are really unbelievable
elead athletes, but so much of it comes down to
how can you maintain maintain your emotions in the moment
and how can you just continue to try to execute
pitches to get the other hitter out.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
How many of your players, your pitchers know your resume.
Speaker 7 (19:25):
I want to say, given that their cell phones were
always at hand, I want to say, there's at least
they've googled me at some point. Certain key facts do
do come up where they are surprised we.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Will come up first, but that they would bring up to.
Speaker 7 (19:41):
You usually it's it's the infamous game in two thousand
and three, that'll maybe be on in the clubhouse and
then all of a sudden they'll kind of put two
and two together of oh, you were the guy on
the mound. You didn't you know? We didn't know that.
So that's always the surprise one where you're kind of like, yeah,
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that's me.
Speaker 6 (20:03):
That was twenty some years ago.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
So but what do you remember about that? When you
bring up the Bartman game?
Speaker 4 (20:09):
You don't bring it up.
Speaker 6 (20:11):
I don't bring it up TV.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
You you brought up that. They brought it up right
right now. I can follow up by saying, when I
say that game and you're on the mound and you
see that foul ball going over, what do you think?
Speaker 7 (20:26):
You know, just like darn it? I wish I wish
we caught it. And uh, Marlins had a good team,
they had a good run. So I you know, it's
it's been so long ago that any you know, I mean,
it was obviously a game. I still feel you really
think you said darn it. No, I didn't say darn words,
(20:46):
but I don't, you know, I think I pointed and.
Speaker 6 (20:51):
Said some things, and you.
Speaker 7 (20:54):
Know, I mean, look, it comes up every day in
the games. I mean it came up in the Giants
Padrey game yesterday. You know, it's still hows and it looks.
It's it's the beauty of baseball that all these things
can but through the course of time of this game
and how many games have been played, that plays like
that still happen. And that's why it's great. It's it's
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played by humans. There's there's a lot of great things
that happen. There's crazy plays that happen every night in
the game, and so I think that's what makes people
love the game because every single night you show up,
things are you know, things happen as you don't expect,
and then things that you think shouldn't happen because everybody's
seen it happen before and you know you shouldn't do
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it, it happens again. So it's it's the beauty of the game.
It's it's what what pete draws people to it. It's
what people love about it. But it's also what can
be maddening at time, depending on which side of the
fan base you're on.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
I'm talking to Mark Prior, Dodgers pitching coach since twenty eighteen,
Dodgers at the Rockies tonight at eight forty Eastern Who
does Otani remind you of Wise.
Speaker 7 (22:03):
Well, nobody, because nobody, uh, nobody hits as much as
well as he does as a pitcher. Though I did
see a stat the other day that Freddy Jenkins had
I think thirteen homers as a cup, so I guess
he had some had some good power numbers.
Speaker 6 (22:15):
But uh, just.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
His pitching style, who is.
Speaker 7 (22:18):
You know, it's a little bit, Uh, it's got a
little bit of Nolan in him, like where he's just
gonna you know, and I know I'm dating myself, but
I grew up watching Nolan and at the tail end
of his career, and you know, like he if he
wants to just rear back and blow it by you, like,
he's going to do it. And I think we've seen
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that where obviously he has a very good and a
very nasty sweeper, but if he wants it, he's going
to get a hundred and he's gonna throw a rye
past you. And uh, I think the the bat and
he hit an a bat in Kansas City. I think
it was like a second or third outing, you know.
And he's been kind of in the mid nineties and
all of a sudden, you know, guy comes up and
he's like, here you go, here's three hundred mile an
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hour pitches, and so, uh, you know, you don't. We
have a lot of guys who throw extremely hard in
this league, and so the velocity is not nothing or
it isn't isn't as exciting and unexpected, I guess is
a better way to say that it used to be.
But all of a sudden, this dude just out of
nowhere as one hundred hundred and one hundred and two.
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And so that reminds me of watching Nolan when I
was a kid, where it was just like, all right,
I know he knows I'm throwing a fastball, and here
it is, and see what you can do with it.
Speaker 6 (23:31):
Uh, And that's pretty cool.
Speaker 7 (23:33):
I mean it's it's still as a as a coach,
it's one thing, but it's really really as a fan
to watch him do what he does is pretty awesome.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
How would you pitch to Tani?
Speaker 6 (23:44):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (23:46):
Well, as a pitching coach, we tried unsuccessfully at times,
you know. I mean, look, I was a two pitch pitcher,
so you know, it's trying to move my fastball around
and throw my breaking ball and try to change the
shape and uh, you know, I try to go you know,
up and in and slow him down, down and away, and.
Speaker 6 (24:06):
You know, maybe just trying to use all four quadrants.
Speaker 7 (24:08):
I mean, he's he's when he's any, when he's in
a groove, there's no pitch that he can't cover.
Speaker 6 (24:15):
And I think that's what makes him special.
Speaker 7 (24:17):
You can throw it one hundred miles an hour up
and away and he'll go backside left field home or
twenty rows deep.
Speaker 6 (24:22):
You can go down and in at one hundred he'll
pull a ball.
Speaker 7 (24:25):
He'll take off speed, you know, with ass out like
he did the other day, completely like lost his entire body,
and he still hits it one hundred and five.
Speaker 6 (24:36):
Uh, and it gets over the fence.
Speaker 7 (24:37):
So you hope that you catch if you're an opposing pitcher,
you hope that you catch him when he's in when
he swings a little bit off. But right now it
looks like he's starting to get his swing going again,
and he's doing some pretty incredible things. And and just
the way he impacts the baseball. He that's the crazy
thing is watching other big leaguers in the dugout marble
about how hard he hits the ball.
Speaker 6 (24:59):
And that's that's the thing that is just like jaw dropping.
Speaker 7 (25:03):
It's not that it's the power and the average, it's
this guy's out.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
You know.
Speaker 7 (25:08):
It seems like he's averaging one hundred and ten off
the bat every single time. And guys are like big
lead guys are extremely like in awe watching how hard
he hits the ball, even if it's an out. It's
it's insane.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Yeah, I remarked or marveled at that a couple of
years ago. If I'm just listening to guys hit, there
are certain guys when you hear him hit, that's different
than everybody else. And he's one of those guys. Anybody
else come to mind that when you hear that ball
off the bat, you know.
Speaker 7 (25:37):
You know, yeah, I mean there's a couple of years
ago Ronald Laconia hit a ball.
Speaker 6 (25:42):
I forget.
Speaker 7 (25:42):
It was like either like one seventeen or one nineteen
or something. You hit a ball at Dodger Stadium and
it just sounded like a shotgun. It was a home
or a dead center. And he can impact the baseball
extremely hard. You know, Freddy, you know, you know Freddy.
He can move some balls forward all over the field.
But when he impacts the baseball at times, it comes
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off really hot.
Speaker 6 (26:08):
I'm trying to think, uh, you.
Speaker 7 (26:10):
Know, Machado Tatis, but Judge is another guy too when
he when he connects Stanton, those guys are they impact
the baseball extremely hard. And I'm sure there was guys
when I played who hit the ball just as hard
as they did, but it sure doesn't. You know, we
didn't have the numbers to quantify it as much. But
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these guys, a lot of a lot of players nowadays
are really impacting the baseball.
Speaker 6 (26:34):
And you know, it's scary out there.
Speaker 7 (26:36):
You're only sixty feet away, so I mean, it's it's
a little dangerous at times.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Can you see a scenario in the postseason where Otani
comes in in relief.
Speaker 6 (26:47):
It's a good question, very fair question.
Speaker 7 (26:49):
We've it's been discussed, and it's really understanding kind of
the rules of him coming in as a reliever and
knowing that because of.
Speaker 6 (26:59):
The world it's set up right now, as a starter.
Speaker 7 (27:02):
He can come out of the game and still maintain
as a DH, but he comes in as a reliever.
You got to find that line and where hopefully the
game is because you can't put him in in sixth
and then take him out as a pitcher in seventh
and keep him in as a DH. So it would
have to be a situation where it was probably we
think the game's over and he's closing or be okay
with him not coming, not hitting anymore.
Speaker 6 (27:23):
So that would be really the only scenario. Can I
see it?
Speaker 7 (27:26):
Absolutely, But it would probably be closer to the back
end when the game's you know, kind of on the line,
and it would be over after he's done.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Great to catch up with you again, Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 6 (27:38):
Mark anytime. I appreciate it. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
It's Mark Pryor.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 8 (27:52):
He's Mike Carmen.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
I'm Dan Byern.
Speaker 8 (27:54):
We have a brand new fantasy football podcast called I
Want Your Flex. Twice a week, every Tuesday and Friday,
we come up with new episodes to not only look
back at what happened, what you need to do at
that minute, and also look ahead of what's coming up
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Speaker 1 (28:11):
That's right, Dan.
Speaker 9 (28:12):
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Speaker 8 (28:23):
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Speaker 2 (28:30):
Let's bring in Ross Tucker, host of the Ross Hooker
Football podcast, and he called the Browns Eagles game last Saturday.
He's got the Eagles at the Jets on Friday night.
Hi Ross, how are you?
Speaker 6 (28:43):
Dan?
Speaker 4 (28:43):
I'm fantastic. I think I have better reception than that guy.
I think I'm ready to go.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Most interesting team in the NFL is who.
Speaker 10 (28:53):
Who. There's a bunch of different ways I could go
with that one, you know, I think I'm gonna go
with I'm gonna go with the team I just saw
on Saturday, the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
I'm fascinated by them. I said this today on the
Ross Tucker Football Podcast.
Speaker 10 (29:10):
Dan, I think there's a real possibility, probably unlikely, but
there's a possibility that they become the first team in
NFL history to have four different quarterbacks start at least
four games.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
Now, hear me out on this okay.
Speaker 10 (29:27):
First of all, when they made the trade with the Jaguars,
the Travis Hunter trade to move down pick up next
year's first round pick.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
That's a loud signal.
Speaker 10 (29:38):
To everybody that we're looking at this over the next
few years.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
We're not all going to try to win this year, etc.
So we all get that. I understand why they're starting
to flock over at the start of the year. They
have a tough schedule.
Speaker 10 (29:53):
They can sell the vets that we went to the
playoffs a couple of years ago with him, he gives
us the best chance to win.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
But they traded for Kenny Pickett for a reason.
Speaker 10 (30:03):
And I think deep down Stefanski thinks that maybe Kenny
Pickett could be his Sam Darnold, his Baker Mayfield. I
mean now that one of those guys started to really
click until they were on their fourth team. This is
Kenny's third team, and I think in Stefanski's offense, I
believe he thinks he can get Kenny Pickett to play
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at a pretty high level. I'm not sure I really
believe that Kenny can do that. But then they also
drafted a couple of rookies and that's been well documented
Dylan Gabriel in the third round. They obviously like Shdoor
Sanders only played one preseason game in the fifth round,
but he played well.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
People want to see what he has.
Speaker 10 (30:44):
So I think there's a reasonable scenario where Flacco starts.
The first is called three or four, they're zero to three,
one and three whatever. They put picket in to see
how he looks, take him for a spin, and then
they want to try to find out about both Gabriel
and Shor Sanders. Maybe they hit on one of those guys,
maybe one of them looks like a very good, inexpensive backup,
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but they kind of need to find out about both
those guys before next year's first round, where they have
two first round picks, they might both be in the
top ten. They're highly likely if they didn't hit on
any of these guys, to get a franchise quarterback or
try to in the top ten next year. So the
Browns might set a very interesting record in terms of
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the number of quarterbacks to start multiple games in the season.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
I always look or like to look at coaching staffs
to see what decisions they make with their quarterbacks, like
the Giants with Brian Dable Jackson dark to me makes
more sense. I don't think they're going to be that
good of a team. But these you know, this coach
wants to keep his job with a very difficult schedule,
the Colt situation, Shane Steikin wants to keep his job,
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the Browns situation, that coach wants to keep his job
as well. And as a result, you got Russell Wilson,
Daniel Jones, and then you're gonna have Joe Flacco. I
don't think it's a surprise that they're going with somebody
who's a little more proven and they can't really roll
the dice on somebody younger.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
What do you think, Well, and here's what's interesting.
Speaker 10 (32:19):
I tend to think, by the way, that the Browns
will probably give Stefanski and the GM Andrew.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
Berry another year. Otherwise, why would those guys.
Speaker 10 (32:30):
Have made that trade that they made unless Dan they
think that making that trade helps them get another year, right,
Like maybe it's the chicken in the egg thing. The
coach thing, to me is like the perfect example, okay
of the dichotomy between fans, media, and to some extent
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even some scouts in front office executives versus coach. I
have seen this as long as I've been around the NFL. Right, fans, media,
some front office executives, they love upside, they love physical traits,
they love potential, they love guys like Anthony Richardson right.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
Meanwhile, coaches, you know what they love.
Speaker 10 (33:21):
They love guys that they can trust, that are able
to execute the concepts that they're given and that the
plays that are called. Guys that obviously are consistent. That's
what coaches value.
Speaker 5 (33:38):
You know.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
I know this, Dan.
Speaker 10 (33:40):
Multiple times in my career, I was told by an
assistant coach, Hey, the front office hates you like or
this guy hates you, but the coach is always like,
I was never the high upside guy. I was never
the traits guy. I was never someone that you get excited.
Oh yes, Ross Tucker and his short arms and average
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athleticsism starting like nobody ever felt that way. But the
coaches they knew. I wasn't gonna be the reason why
we lost. I was gonna do the right thing every
time they could trust me. I was gonna play as
hard as I possibly can. I was consistent, and ultimately,
coaches have to win. It's year three for Shane Steichen.
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He needs to win this year. If he thought that
Anthony Richardson would help them win more games this year,
I can assure you he would be starting.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
He doesn't now remember this too, Dan, People lose sight
of this.
Speaker 10 (34:36):
You know, when the announcements made yesterday, I called that
coach Titans game for CBS last year late in the season.
It had been a week or two earlier that several
of the veterans had sat down with Anthony Richardson to
go over with him what the standard should be and
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what their expectation.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
This is more than halfway through his second year.
Speaker 10 (35:04):
To Forrest Buckner and Quentin Nelson, those guys, this is
out there, it's public.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
They had to sit down and say, like, listen and
walk throughs.
Speaker 10 (35:13):
You need to be like this, you know, after practice,
you need to do stuff like this.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
You know.
Speaker 10 (35:18):
Unfortunately, he's a really gifted, talented, but young, immature kid
who has gotten hurt a bunch doesn't really understand what
it means they be professional.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
I don't know if he knows that now or not.
Speaker 10 (35:32):
But Shane Siken not waiting around to find out right,
Like Shane Sikeen's like, you know what, Daniel Jones, he
can win.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
I saw with the Giants and my system. He'll win.
He'll do what I ask of him. He's a pro.
Speaker 10 (35:45):
I'm attaching my life, my family's livelihood, my kids, where
I'm going to live next year. I'm going to put
more faith in trust in Daniel Jones that he'll give
me a better chance to stay living in Indianapolis, Indiana
next year than Richardson.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Talking to Ron Stucker the Ron Tucker Football Podcast, and
he had Browns Eagles last Saturday. He's got the Eagles
hit the Jets coming up on Friday night. Would you
rather have the career of Joe Flacco or Philip Rivers.
Speaker 10 (36:19):
Joe Flacco, Yeah, now listen, Philip Rivers, I think is
a better player.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
I think Philip Rivers has.
Speaker 10 (36:28):
A better chance, maybe a really good chance to be
a Hall of Famer. But in my first of all,
Philip Rivers never got to play in a Super Bowl, right,
so forget even winning it. You either have experience playing
in the Super Bowl or you haven't.
Speaker 4 (36:47):
I haven't. I've talked to guys that have.
Speaker 10 (36:49):
It's like a line of demarcation as an NFL player,
you either played in.
Speaker 4 (36:54):
The super Bowl or you didn't.
Speaker 10 (36:55):
And then Flaco first of all, Flaco made a ton
of money. They probably made around the same money, and
Flacco is still going by the way. But Flacco won
a Super Bowl. And no matter how good an individual
career is, there is nothing like winning a championship.
Speaker 4 (37:13):
I can speak to this, Dan. I am so glad I.
Speaker 10 (37:16):
Got a chance to play college football and very thankful
for seven years in the NFL. In eighteen years of football,
I won one championship. It was my junior year of
high school. It was thirty years ago. Okay, it was
nineteen ninety five. I can tell you about every one
of those games. I can tell you about those guys.
(37:39):
When I go back to my hometown, okay, and I
go to Third and Spruce, or I go to any
of these bars and I see these guys. Right, I
am not friends with these guys. I don't text them,
I don't even have their numbers. But when I see them,
we give each other a hug and we ms about
(38:01):
what it was like to win the Burkes Ic championship
in ninety five, what it was like to beat Governor Mifflin.
There is nothing an individual accomplishment, in my experience, can
never even come close to the shared joy and the
shared experience of a team accomplishment.
Speaker 4 (38:23):
Give me the team accomplishment and winning the.
Speaker 10 (38:25):
Super Bowl and the bond that you have with those
guys forever over anything individual.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
Joe Flacco or Dan Marino's careers.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
Okay, are we talking careers.
Speaker 10 (38:37):
We're talking lifestyle because I've thought about this, and being
Dan Marino in Miami in the eighties had to be really,
really fun.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
It might still be.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
I mean, I mean, did I've said this? Okay, this
is a great topic for the rest of the show.
I'll program the next thirty minutes. Paul's not doing his
job anyway.
Speaker 10 (38:57):
Okay, if you could be any athlete in any era,
at any time, for everything that went along with it. Okay,
I'm just sitting here thinking Dan Marino in the eighties
in Miami, like Miami.
Speaker 4 (39:14):
Vice, like stuff off the field.
Speaker 10 (39:17):
I mean, Dan Marino had a top five life of
any athlete I can even fathom for what that must
have been like for him.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
So Joe Flacco, I mean, great Baltimore.
Speaker 10 (39:28):
I would rather have probably Joe Flacco's career, but I'd
rather I'd rather have lived Dan Marino's life.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
Safe travels. Great to talk to you as always thanks
for joining us, all right, see you guys. That's Ros
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