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August 21, 2025 50 mins

DP and the Danettes discuss the potential of a Super Bowl being held in London. They also react to Urban Meyer's comments regarding a potential suspension for Jim Harbaugh. And MMQB Senior NFL reporter Albert Breer weighs in on conspiracies over Shedeur Sanders' draft slide and says the Colts simply "got it wrong" regarding Anthony Richardson. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
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here are starting five, Fritzy Seaton, Marv Paula, yours truly
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as he does very very well, and we say good morning.

(00:25):
If you're watching on Peacock, that's our streaming partner, thank
you for downloading the app. Watching some baseball last night,
and I've been watching a lot of the Yankees because
the Yankees are on a terror now. You can hit
home runs during the regular season, you can overwhelm teams
during the regular season. This is about postseason success. And

(00:45):
I'm watching the Yankees and I'm going that's a lot
of home runs that they've hit. They've hit fourteen home
runs in the last two games. That's a staggering amount.
But this lineup has been very good. They lead Baseball
at scoring over five runs per game. As the calendar
creeps to September and dips into October, this is about pitching,
and the Yankees have the sixteenth best team Era. Now

(01:09):
they lost to Garrett Cole before the season even started.
But six months you can have an elite lineup and
bludging your way to some success and get a playoff berth.
But if you're going to win a World Series, it's
going to be about pitching come September and certainly October.
Speaking of pitching, show Hao Tani. He got roughed up

(01:30):
his first career start at corps Field. He gave up
five runs, nine hits in four innings, also took a
comebacker off the leg. He did have a double on
a walk to extend his on base streak to eighteen games.
You know the padres, Oh wow Wow, Okay, the padres
aren't going away. They're kind of hanging there. The game

(01:53):
behind is that our first overrated for show Heyo tani't.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
Be our last either. I'll tell you what the heck
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(02:26):
we talked about show Hayo Tani because they're trying to
give him more innings and I'm watching the game and
he was getting roped up, and they kept him out there,
get a few more pitches, a few more innings, and
then they finally took him out. But Pryor said that
there could be a possibility of a relief appearance for

(02:49):
show Hayo Tani come postseason time, that that is being
considered by the Dodgers. You look at him as a
starting pitcher. Plus, here's the thing with being a close.
If you're going to be in the field, how are
you going to warm up. It's almost as if you're
a DH Now you can go warm up. But you
don't want shohy Utani warming up and then not getting

(03:11):
into the game because closers will tell you nothing worse
then you think you're going to go, you get warmed up.
Skip says, go out there, start throwing, and then you
don't get in the game. Can't do that with Otani.
But as far as his starting pitching. He looked pedestrian
last night against Colorado, the new and improved Rockies. But

(03:34):
just some of the baseball that I saw last night, Yes, Paul.

Speaker 4 (03:37):
I was thinking about this, that Otani's going to win
the MVP going away this year, even though his numbers
are quite a bit down hitting from last year. I mean,
he had fifty nine steals last year. He's down to seventeen.
His homers are a little down, his batting average is
a bit down. But it's like his aura is going
to win him these things. The options the Dodgers had
with him to close, start, play him, not play him,

(03:59):
It's like he's bigger than anyone else.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Clearly, well, he doesn't have competition. Kyle Schwarber is pretty
much one dimensional. But I do think he should be
in the race. I mean he is in the race,
he's in second place. But I was curious Otani getting
roughed up. What that meant for the DraftKings odds for Otani.
So he was minus eight thousand yesterday to win the MVP.

(04:22):
Now it's minus six thousand, so he went down two
thousand points. Kyle Schwarber was plus thirteen hundred yesterday. He's
plus nine hundred. The race is really in the American
League with Aaron Judge minus two hundred and Cayl Rawley
is hanging in there. I think Rawley's got to hit
sixty home runs, at least sixty home runs, and if
he does and you're a playoff team, then maybe he

(04:43):
could win the MVP. But we might see this happening
for the next couple of years with Otani and Aaron
Judge and the PGA Tour Championship. Scotty Scheffler is the
overwhelming favorite starting today. This is Tiger li Okay, I'm
not saying he's playing like Tiger or you know, he

(05:04):
is Tiger, the second coming a Tiger. But how big
of a favorite that's Tiger like? He's plus one fifty.
Rory McElroy is plus eight fifty. That's the second best odds.
This is Tiger like. College football this weekend is week zero.
Iowa State k State in Dublin. I got Iowa State

(05:27):
getting three. I'm curious about Stanford at Hawaii. Believe it
or not, Yeah, Stanford, Stanford getting two and a half
at Hawaii. Fresno State at Kansas. I'm mildly curious about
that presno State getting twelve and a half at KU. See,
these are games that I love. These are the nobody

(05:49):
loves us, nobody cares about us, nobody respects us, and
they'd be right, But I do. I love watching these games,
especially early in the season. And maybe it's just I
take any football. But here we aren't two days away
until college football, and we're inching closer to the opening
of the NFL. And speaking of the NFL, we've spoken

(06:12):
about this before, but now you have the possibility of
having a discussion of maybe having the Super Bowl played
in London. Now London wants this, Okay. The UK Ambassador,
Peter Mandelson lobbies for the Super Bowl to be held

(06:32):
in Britain. He's the US ambassador and he's lobbying for
the first super Bowl outside of the United States. Okay,
this is how these things get started. Now, if the Commissioner,
if somebody has an opportunity to talk to him and say, hey,
what did you think of the UK ambassador talking about

(06:52):
a super Bowl? The Commissioner will say the following, Oh,
you know what, we've considered everything, the growth of the sport,
and we play so many games now the international you
know part portion of this, and you know, it's something
that will take into consideration. But as for now, we
have the Super Bowl and we have you know, cities

(07:12):
that are locked in over the next x x number
of years. I mean, but he will address it. I
don't know if he would give you a no comment.
If he gave you no comment, well now I'm really interested.
But you might get some political speak from the commissioner.
But I think it's inevitable. And I don't know if
there's any of us who will turn it off or
not tune in because it's not in the United States.

(07:36):
Now you might have a you know that anti American
sentiment and you know, what are we doing and that's
our sport. Well, we shipped out Baseball opening Day. I
don't know if anybody was enraged by that except for me.
The NBA is expanding. Maybe there's a European portion of this,

(07:57):
but I think you're every every sport's looking for growth,
even golf. Now, golf just hired Tiger Woods theo Epstein.
They're trying to look at the future of the sport
and they're promising there's big changes there. But Tiger was
named to a committee that's basically about the future of
the sport, and they promised big changes, and I don't

(08:19):
know what those big changes could be, but every sport
is looking for more revenue. How do we grow the game?
And there's going to be a separate TV package for
the international game. So the NFL is going to sell
that off for a billion dollars because now they have
more revenue. We've added another game. Now they'll add another
game after that, and then you're going to have maybe

(08:40):
more international games. But I think this is just inevitable
with the growth of the game baseball. Baseball's talking about expansion,
maybe four new teams in here. Maybe they're going to
have realignment. Maybe we don't have an American League, International League.
And I know if you're of my age or anybody
over fifty, you're probably saying he's ruining the sport. They're

(09:01):
going to ruin the sport. All of these commissioners know
where is the next piece of revenue because they have
to beholden. They're beholden to the owners because the owners
are saying, we got to make more money. We got
to make more money. College football, we're at twelve, now
we'll go to fourteen or sixteen, and now you have

(09:23):
at least the possibility proposals on the table of going
to twenty four to twenty eight. March Madness sixty eight,
well you got to go to seventy two or seventy six.
Every one of these sports, it's about the growth. How
do we grow it, how do we make more money?
And that's happening right now, happening right now with baseball,

(09:43):
happening right now with the NBA, happening right now with
the NFL, and golf is trying to grow the sport again.
And you have the competition with Live Tour and now
Tiger's involved in this, theo Epstein, who's a baseball I mean,
he's involved in this, and maybe there is something that

(10:05):
they'll do that I don't know what could be drastic.
I think, you know, maybe the number of events. I
like relegation, but you know, relegation. They have relegation on Livetour,
and Ian Poulter I think just got relegated. Why I
know that, I don't know. I have no life, but
I think that's the interesting part of watching what they're

(10:28):
trying to do and not You can't stay stagnant. There's
some things this Baseball Commissioner has done that I think
are positive. I think that he's he earned criticism with
talking about the World Series trophy was just a piece
of metal. When talking about the Astros, that was stupid.
The Pete Rose portion of putting him on the ballot

(10:49):
or making him eligible, that came from pressure from President Trump,
Roger Goodell. He's a businessman. It's growth of the game.
It's not necessarily or the betterment of the game. But
I don't think anybody's going to tune out the Super
Bowl if it's played in London. But I do think
we're going there. I don't know when, maybe it's ten years,

(11:12):
but maybe in our lifetime we're going to have a
Super Bowl outside the United States? Yes, Todd, Is.

Speaker 5 (11:17):
There anything that these leaves can do, you know, while
they're chasing the next dollar and the greed and the
revenue that would really turn the sports fan off. They
may not love it, but ultimately, if you like sports,
you're gonna watch. If there's extra college basketball teams in
the tournament, if there's extra college football teams in the playoffs.
Say there really anything that they can do where it's like, wow,
that's too much? No thanks, I'm not watching this anymore.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
Well, I wondered about this, and this is not on
the par of this, obviously, but when we were doing
Sports Center, and I remember my boss at the time,
Steve Bornstein, he said, we're going to re air Sports
Center all morning long, and I thought that's stupid, And
then all of a sudden, I realized there was a

(11:58):
whole generation that wasn't able to stay up at eleven
o'clock or one o'clock in the morning. They got to
watch that in the morning. And you guys are probably
the demo that we appealed to. You got to have
Sports Center reairing starting at six in the morning and
went all morning long, and it would be the same
Sports Center, but there you were catering to an audience

(12:21):
that was missing out on staying up and watching all
the highlights. And it turned out to be a brilliant move.
But I don't know if can you get too much football?
Mark Cuban talked about this, was it pigs get fat
and hogs get slaughtered And we haven't found that yet.

(12:42):
We haven't found that. You can be you'll push yourself
away from the sports buffet.

Speaker 4 (12:49):
Yeah, Paul, I will say there's one thing the fans
are having and going to have a problem with this
upcoming year with football. If you want to watch all
the NFL games, like four or five years ago, if
you got the Red Zone packet, you could watch everything.

Speaker 6 (13:01):
One check, two hundred bucks. That's it. You were set
for the season.

Speaker 4 (13:05):
Now you need Netflix, Peacock, Amazon Prime, your basic cable
channel for your local You're getting too. You need like
seven different packages or subscriptions to watch all the NFL games,
and it's it's it's a labor to order all those
and sign up for those, and it's costly.

Speaker 6 (13:22):
You're getting to the point. I did some research on this.

Speaker 4 (13:24):
If you want to watch all the NFL games this season,
it's probably gonna cost you eight hundred plus dollars in subscriptions,
and four years ago, I would say it was about
one ninety nine.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
Five years, which is still expensive as hell, one hundred
and nine to do now, but worth it. But it's
it's not nearly one thousand dollars.

Speaker 7 (13:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (13:43):
Back when DirecTV had the Red Zone and you could
sign up for DirecTV's Red Zone, you got the red
Zone where you chopped up all the games. But then
the you could choose which game you go to. Now
you're looking at eight hundred bucks for the entire season
plus to get every package.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
And it's not going down by the way. Nope, it's
not gonna be. Hey, they're going to reduce this. Hey,
loyal fans, we're gonna give you a break, a bargain here.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
Yes, it's not unlike trying to watch soccer where uh
you know, Peacock has the Premier League, Apple has MLS,
Paramount has USL, Fubo has the French League, ESPN has
the Spanish League. Now at least those are that's worldwide.
You're trying to get all these things. This is one

(14:29):
what Paul is referring to us one league in one country.

Speaker 5 (14:33):
Yes, yes, tod, but you have to believe they've done
or they're doing some type of research in the NFL officers,
What is the absolute most we can charge these people
along with the networks where they'll still keep paying so
we don't hit that spot where we're gonna lose viewership,
We're gonna lose dollars. They're gonna push it to the
last possible cent that we're willing to spend.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
Why wouldn't they Well, maybe if the Commissioner comes on
the show, I can ask in such questions.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
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Speaker 2 (15:42):
USA Today did a breakdown on the NFL twenty twenty
five viewing plan. Now, this is as low as you
can get, this is as streamline as you could get.
But CBS, Fox, NBC, ABC one average over the air
end Tennis forty don CBS, Fox, NBCABC at standard Sunday

(16:04):
ticket annual subscription three seventy nine and then a monthly
based subscription you pay four times. To YouTube that's seventy
three dollars, So that's a total of six hundred and
seventy one dollars. Netflix, they're Christmas games. That's a one
time fee of eight dollars. Amazon Prime Thursday Night standard

(16:24):
monthly fee of thirty six dollars. You have to pay
that four times. Peacock Exclusive games that's a premium monthly
subscription eight dollars, but you also get the Dan Patrick
Show with that. You're looking at Monday Night Football. A
monthly subscription to ESPN plus that's four times that you

(16:45):
pay twelve dollars ESPN direct streaming service or a monthly
subscription or a bundle in there, and it's around eight
hundred to almost nine hundred dollars. Five years ago it
was two fifty. So when you see these TV deals
and you go, oh, that's awesome, Well, you're helping pay

(17:07):
for those TV deals, Yes, Pauli.

Speaker 4 (17:09):
And places like Netflix, Amazon and Peacock, they're all in
on these NFL standalone games like a playoff game for
one hundred and ten million dollars Peacock paid, or Netflix
or Amazon. But their goal is to get you to
sign up for the Netflix, Amazon and Peacock and not cancel,
because most people don't cancel. They're either lazy or they're
not mining the eight bucks a month and they just
keep going and going, and that one ten million that

(17:31):
they spend on the game they get back three times.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
Well, so I signed up for Hulu to watch the
Jennifer Aniston Reese Witherspoon that morning showed that that series
they had Understandable. That was it. That's all I've ever
watched on Hulu, I think was Jennifer Aniston and Reese Witherspoon. Well,
Jennifer Aniston, Yeah, you do sign up for these things.
Then all of a sudden, you go, uh did I pay?

(17:58):
Am I paying for this? Yes? You are? And sometimes
I don't even know anymore. It'll be like, okay, that's
where sometimes my wife will go, you know, we are
paying for this, and I go yeah, yeah, like I
act like I know what I'm paying for. It's just
but it does add up if you want to watch everything,

(18:18):
but I don't know what that means, if you're an
average fan, do you go I'm not going to sign
up for Amazon Prime. I'm not going to sign up
for Peacock. I'm not going to do that, you know,
Or I just want to. I want them to make
it easier if I watch one of these Thursday night games.
I don't want it to be so difficult to get

(18:38):
into it, and then if I want to get out
of it, then then go back into it. That's my biggest,
you know, beef with them.

Speaker 4 (18:45):
Yeah, Pauline, they're banking on I'm reading some stories from
Sports Business Journal, and the bank is if your team
is in a playoff game and it's on Peacock or
it's on Amazon or whatever it may be, you're shelling out.
You're not going to sit at home and miss your
team in a random playoff game. Let's say you're a
Arizona Cardinals fan and you sneak into the playoffs and
that game is on Netflix. You're ordering Netflix.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
Yeah, and then you're keeping keeping Netflix. But chances are
you probably already have Netflix so you could watch Happy
Gilmore too. Yes.

Speaker 4 (19:17):
In the same story from the Sports Business Journal, they
said that sports are bigger for Netflix, Amazon, and Peacock
because movies don't churn and go. They's not fresh movies
and TV shows and streaming as much as there's fresh
sports and sports might be the bigger play for these
subscription services.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
I was teasing before we went to commercial break, Urban Meyer,
who's an analyst for Fox their high nuon kickoff, Big
noon Kickoff, and he thinks the NFL should suspend Jim Harbaugh.
Here is Urban Meyer.

Speaker 10 (19:50):
There's an elephant in the room here, boys, though, that
no one's talking about. When Jim Trussell was fired at
Ohio State and he was given a suspension, Roger Goodell,
commissioner of the Ashall Football League, came out and said
that we're going to honor that violate. They're going to
honor that suspension. And you remember he went Indianapolis Colts

(20:11):
to work in the replay room or something. The Colts
because the respect they had for the NCAA and the suspension.
Do you realize suspended Jim Trussell so he was unable
to perform his duties for the first six games of
the year for the Indianapolis Colts. I think we all
know the answer. Yeah, Any chance that Roger Goodell and

(20:32):
the NFL.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
Of course not okay, and he's right that happened in
twenty eleven. That was on the Triple Option podcast. But
now the first thing you're going to think of is, well,
that's a former Ohio state coach talking about a Michigan coach.
But he is correct, and member Terrell Prior they were
involved in the tattoo gate where they were trading in

(20:56):
some of their Ohio state gear to get tattoos. I
don't think Roger Goodell is going to address this. I
mean he should address it, but right now there's no
comment from the NFL. But there is precedent, and they
created president. Now what do you do. They at least
have to announce that they're not suspending Jim Harball in

(21:20):
Here's why. I think you owe that to what happened
to Terrell Pryor and Jim Tressel. And granted it seems
like it was e onz ago, it was twenty eleven,
but you did est establish precedents.

Speaker 4 (21:33):
Yeah, PAULI yeah, Irvin Meyer does have his facts right
on this. This is twenty eleven. Roger Goodell said he
agreed with the colt's decision to suspend Jim Trussel for
the first six games as a replay assistant, not like
a head coach or assistant coach. And he was followed
up by asking would you guys have suspended him if
the Colts didn't. He said basically yes, and he agreed

(21:54):
that it's part of the NFL's policy to enforce NCAA rules.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
Well, he got a tenure, show cause what exactly does
that mean? Because Jim Tressel lost his job at Ohio
State and then the cole tired him to be he
was kind of worked in their replay room. He was
a replay assistant and he got fired or he got
suspended for six games after getting fired fired at Ohio State.

(22:25):
But I would like, if you know the commissioner is
in front of the media or he's on a radio show,
TV show, to just ask just say, hey, Urban Meyer
brought this up and there is precedent, will Jim Harball
be suspended? And there might be language here and you
know that they can they can get around this because

(22:46):
he wasn't suspended when he was suspended at Michigan, but
for this he's not still there. And then leaving to
go to the NFL. He left before the penalties. You
know were handed down. Yes, Todd getting a little itch
to send a little note to the NF No, no, no, no,

(23:06):
it doesn't matter anymore.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
What what do you mean.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
It's a better it's a better story if the commissioner
doesn't come on. I mean we've gone down this road
for ten years now. I mean we can get a
maybe a response to the story. There we go. How
about that? That seems reasonable? Hate to bother you. We're
not asking for the commissioner. Could you give us a
comment from the league office on what urban Meyer had

(23:30):
to say about suspending Jim Harbaugh. But you know, do
it in your flowery way and be very nice. We
always play nice. Yeah, of course you do, yes, Paul.

Speaker 4 (23:40):
Historically, Todd has always received an answer to his emails,
no matter how out of place the question may be.
I think we're gonna get non response on this one.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
Oh you think they go radio silent?

Speaker 6 (23:51):
I would if I were them. I lit radio silent
on this one.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
We're just getting ready for the season.

Speaker 5 (23:55):
Thank you, tardy, appreciate.

Speaker 6 (23:56):
Does that count as a response.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
We're on too, week one, We're on the Cowboys Eagles. Yeah, well,
urban Meyer's correct. I just hope that people don't look
at this from a Ohio state versus Michigan angle and
look at it as Urban is telling you what happened
in twenty eleven. Is that applicable to Jim Harbaugh? And

(24:20):
should he be suspended? I'd just like to hear whatever
language they use or whatever they're drawing up. I'm curious
about that. All right, let's play you know what. I
was going to play, the backup quarterback game, but I
want to wait. I need a little more time here,
because we had a moment yesterday where a backup quarterback

(24:42):
was very emotional, and we'll have that for you coming
up a Seaton Poll question today? What do we have?

Speaker 3 (24:49):
I'm so happy that you asked, And because if I
had a dime for every time we did this pole question,
I'd be retired by now. This one's from Paul his
career Would you rather have Chase Daniel or Isaiah Pichecko?

Speaker 2 (25:06):
Whose career?

Speaker 3 (25:07):
Would you rather have Chase Daniel or Isaiah Pichecko?

Speaker 2 (25:10):
How many times are we going to do this topic?
This old one, You're right, feels like once a season
recycling content. I know it's summer, but this is ridiculous. Yes, Yes, Paul.

Speaker 4 (25:20):
Here's the rationale in this one. Chase Daniel was a
pure backup quarterback for thirteen years in the NFL. He
started only five games. He never played this in a
big time playoff game, led a Super Bowl whatever may
be right.

Speaker 6 (25:34):
He made forty million dollars doing that.

Speaker 4 (25:37):
Okay, Isaiah Pichecko is a starting NFL running back going
into his fourth year. He's played in two Super Bowls.
He was important to those Super Bowl runs and Super
Bowl wins. He's made less than three million dollars in
his three years in the NFL, and my guess is
it's gonna be tough for him to get a big
second contract. He probably will make ten to eleven twelve

(25:57):
million dollars if all goes well in his NFL career.
Based off that, whose career would you want?

Speaker 2 (26:05):
Isaiah Pichecko? Like, I want to play? I mean, Chase
Daniel was so close to playing he didn't get in.
He says, close as you can be, but he never
got in five games in his career. And you know,
he proved to be a great backup quarterback because he
always had a job for whatever, thirteen fourteen years, Isaiah

(26:28):
Pichecko got to play in Super Bowls. Yeah, he was.
He was, you know, extremely valuable to the Chiefs. I
would say, Isaiah Pachecko, Okay, if you factor in the money,
which that's what you're doing, I understand why you would say,
I'll take Chase Daniel probably gonna live to be one hundred,
doesn't have any aches or pains, I'm gonna guess, and

(26:50):
Isaiah Pichecko may play football for three more years. Does
anybody side with me with Isaiah Pichecko? Marvin Heck, Now, okay,
you want the forty million in the backup quarterback? Absolutely?

Speaker 5 (27:06):
Okay, Todd more money, less concussions, less wobbling around the
rest of my life with me and shoulder shaid.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
Yeah, I'm gonna take a Chase okay, seating, not even
for a second. I'm taking forty million dollars okay to Okay,
all right, Paul.

Speaker 4 (27:23):
This is really tough because I side with you on
you want to play and be a factor and feel
like he contributed to titles, two titles in counting the
wear and tear and the lack of money are too
overwhelming and Chase Daniel's favor I would want to be
Chase Daniel.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
Okay, all right, Well then maybe it wasn't a good
poll question. It has a great pole question. No, because
you guys were all in agreement there, yeah, Seaton.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
Uh, well, if you look right, I don't. I don't
know if this evens it out at all. But Aaron Jones,
formerly of the Packers, currently of the Vikings, he's made
about the same amount of money. It's Chase Daniel. Okay,
they've both had about forty something million dollars.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
Yeah, but I want to play in a super Bowl,
win a super Bowl. Aaron Jones had a good career
in Green Bay and got his money. I mean, Pacheco
won two Super Bowls. That's pretty good. Maybe gets another one.
I don't know if you'll get, you know, a bigger contract. Yes, Marvin,

(28:29):
how much money do those rings equal? Out to? Twenty
million dollars a piece? Therefore it's even.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
Yeah, he's gonna have a ton of awesome stories for
when he retires and starts going to work his nine
to five and be like, yes, I remember anyway when
I was in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
The second one.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
No, that's the first one. That was the first one. Anyway,
what are you guys doing for lunch? You want to
go to over to the calf.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
His friends get together with him and Isaiah comes in.
They're like, oh god, here it comes to super Hey Isaiah?
How are you? Hey? Guys? Did I tell you that?
First soup?

Speaker 3 (29:05):
No?

Speaker 2 (29:05):
Second? Super Bowl? Wes in Illinois? Hi, Wes? What's on
your mind today?

Speaker 7 (29:12):
Good?

Speaker 2 (29:12):
More than Dan?

Speaker 11 (29:13):
I just PAULI really hit a button with me with
the fragmentation of the viewing market, That's exactly what happened
to me with the WNBA. Became a WNBA fan last
summer with a million other folks in Kaitlin Clark, and
so I signed up immediately on YouTube for the WNBA

(29:36):
League Pass and I got to watch every single play
of Caitlin Clark all summer last year. It was a
dream summer. Made me a WNBA fan for life. For
certain This year, I decided, oh no, I'm going to
give that money to the WNBA instead, So I went
directly to their platform signed up for the league past.

(29:58):
Oh this year I have missed what or five of
the Fever games because of being on platforms that aren't
on YouTube TV.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
Well, the more popular it gets, the more fragmented it gets.
Because the NFL they've drained NBCCBS and ABC and Fox.
Now they want to have the big time money, Netflix, Amazon,
big time money, and that's why they're selling it. That's
that's why we'll have we'll have a separate TV package

(30:31):
for international games and it'll be a another billion dollars
that they bring in, if not more. Lucas in Texas.
Hey Luke, what's on your mind today?

Speaker 7 (30:43):
Hey?

Speaker 2 (30:44):
Dan, good morning, good morning.

Speaker 12 (30:47):
You know, hey, we're close to football season. It's Scott.
I'm glad to have you guys back. Nothing says that
everyone is dialed in quite like the boss dialing in
from his vacation cabin in Maine. But I am excited
to have the team ready to go. And you know
you're talking about NFL media and future options. You know

(31:07):
there's this thing called the Banning Casts. Perhaps you've heard
of it, and I'd like to pitch something for the
Dan Patrick Show. I brought this up a few months ago,
and I think it's an idea worth exploring. We all
know that Dan loves to go down to his basement,
have a drink or two, watch a game in relative silence.
I would like to have a side by side on
Thursday night, on NBC this upcoming game between the Cowboys

(31:30):
and the Eagles where Dan Patrick takes a real gamble
and watches right next to Shyan Irving a Cowboys game
live and in person. Because nothing would be funnier than
seeing Dan a little in his cups, maybe just silently
giggling right next to a shade that is losing his mind,
live and in person.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
What do you think. I don't think it's a bad
idea if I thought I could get an audience with that,
and we just did it in house where we watched
the game here at the Man Cave. I don't want
to have a camera down in my sanctuary in my basement,
but we could do it here where we watch a
Cowboy game with Shay, have beverages. I could smoke my cigar.

(32:13):
That's a possibility. I won't rule that out. I don't
know if other dan Ets would want to do that.
I don't know if Shay won. Shay is real when
he talks about the Cowboys. By the way, it's not
an act. He gets apoplectic. You can't talk to him.
It crushes him, which is great TV. It's all about content,

(32:35):
and the worst the Cowboys play, the better content we're
going to have, although I'm seeing him excited when the
Cowboys do well. That could be interesting. The Gambling podcast
will have that later on today after the show bad
Larry Dylan and also Shyan Irving.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
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Speaker 2 (33:04):
Albert Breer the Monday Morning quarterback senior NFL reporter, Man,
Do I have some topics for you? Albert, let me
take away your Ohio State allegiance and Urban Meyer came
out on a podcast and said that Jim Harbaugh should
be suspended similar to what happened with Jim Trussel at
Ohio State when he went to the Colts working in

(33:26):
their video replay department. Your thoughts.

Speaker 13 (33:30):
I thought it was dumb at the time to suspend Tressel,
so I don't know that I would support suspension of
Harbaugh either. At the same time, I can remember why
they did it, and if you remember, it was because
they suspended Terrell Pryor, and what they were trying to do,
what the NFL was trying to do, was they didn't

(33:50):
want the pros to be a safe haven for guys
to escape punishment from the NCAA. So Drell Pryor was
going to be ended by the NCAAA. So the league said, no,
this can't be, you know, an escape for you. So
we're gonna let you a suspense suspension on you the
way the NCAAA would have coming into the league because

(34:13):
he was going into the supplemental draft.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
And then when.

Speaker 13 (34:17):
Trussell took the job with the Colts, people were like, well,
wait a minute, like you forced the player to serve
the suspension, so now why aren't you doing it to
the coach. So I think it became one of those
finger in the win type things for the league where
they heard the criticism and said, okay, like, well, we'll
give the coach a suspension too, maybe not thinking about

(34:37):
the president they were setting. The interesting thing is, though,
I think we have had coaches in the past that
have run away from the college game to the pros
as a method of trying to escape punishment. Right, Like,
we've seen that in the past. I think you could
argue like that was Pete Carroll. Now I think Pete
would probably argue that, but a lot of people felt

(34:58):
that way when he did it. Dennis Erickson, I think
we Miami was sort of that way, right, Neither of
these guys, I think, I think in neither case that's
what this was. You know, Like Jim Trussell, I think
would have would have would have been happy dying on
the job at Ohio State, you know, like I think
he would have done that as long as he got job,
as long as he could. He wasn't escaping to the NFL.

(35:18):
And I don't think Harbaugh was escaping Michigan to go
to the NFL either. I think he was going to
the NFL regardless. In fact, I think if he had
gone to the NFL, if if the Vikings had offered
him the job two years earlier when Kevin O'Connell took it,
I think he would have left Michigan two years earlier
than he did.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
You know.

Speaker 13 (35:34):
So, I don't think in either the either the Trustle
case or the Harbaugh case, it was a guy escaping,
trying to escape penalty and finding safe harbor in the NFL.
There were different motivations for it.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
Eric Dickerson was on a radio show Fred Rogan and
Rodney Pete on AM five seventy and had this to
say about Shador Sanders.

Speaker 7 (35:57):
And I'll tell you as much of what I what
I heard from one that's in the NFL that the
NFL put it told other than don't draft him, do
not draft him. We're gonna make him. We're gonna make
an example out of him. And this came from a
very good source, a very good source. And he said that,
I won't say who. Somebody called the Cleveland Browns and said,
don't do that. Really, yep, draft him, don't don't. Don't

(36:20):
do that because they weren't drafted either. They weren't drafted.

Speaker 13 (36:25):
Your thoughts, Albert, Yeah, I always think these sorts of
conspiracies are a little, a little overdone. Like, I don't
think there was any conspiracy here. I think it's relatively
simple what happened. I think the great majority of NFL
teams did not view him as a first round prospect,
contrary to what had been out there for the year previous.

(36:47):
And then I think what happens is once you get
past the first round, you look at the history over
over the years, not a lot of quarterbacks go in
the second or third rounds. It's just the reality of it.
Like that most teams look at it like, if there's
a guy who's going to be our long term answer
at the position, we just take him in the first round.
And if a guy's not going to be your long

(37:08):
term answer at the position, then you probably aren't going
to take them in the second or third round because
you're gonna be looking for a long term answer at another.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
Position with those picks.

Speaker 13 (37:16):
So the fatus should or standers like I think he
fell out of the first round for football reasons. I
think he kept falling for everything else, right, like for
the fact that most coaches look at their backup quarterbacks
and say, I want you to blend in with the furniture.
I don't want to. I don't I don't want to
notice that you're even here. You know, that's the way,

(37:38):
for better or worse. Most teams approach the quarterback position,
which I think, to some degree short circuited the careers
of guys like Tim Tebow and Colin Kaepernick. So I
like Chudor's case was complicated going into the draft, but
I don't think it was that complicated where there was
some sort of weird conspiracy to keep him out of

(37:59):
the league.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
Yeah, from what I was told by a source he
didn't interview well, he kind of came in and he
was interviewing teams instead of the other way around. And
you're right. He didn't have first round talent. There was
nothing exceptional about him except for maybe his toughness and
his pedigree. But I can't imagine all of these owners
getting together and somebody saying, hey, everybody, listen, don't draft

(38:23):
Shador Sanders. Do I think the Browns, especially.

Speaker 13 (38:26):
When there's somebody with a bullhorn that Dion has on
the other side of it, you know what I mean?
That seems like ridiculous to that seems like the wrong
trade of barkup, doesn't it, Dan.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
Yeah, it does. We're talking to Abert Brier the Monday
Morning Quarterback. I saw where the US Ambassador to the
United Kingdom is lobbying for London to get the Super Bowl.
At some point, this comes up occasionally. I do think
we're headed towards this. I don't know if it's ten

(38:58):
years from now, but I think the NFL can take
the heat because you're still going to tune into the
Super Bowl. Where do you like, where do you land
on this story?

Speaker 13 (39:10):
I agree that I think eventually it will happen. I
think the biggest hurdle now is the television rating is
such a big deal and the NFL really does care
about seventy million versus eighty million, versus one hundred million
versus one hundred and twenty million. And if you really
care about that, your kickoff time does matter, you know.

(39:33):
And so if you're holding the game in London, if
it's at what would be if it was at eight
o'clock twenty five, right, like no, but if it was
eight o'clock local, then that's three o'clock Eastern, and you
can say it's the super Bowl. Yeah, like everybody's going
to sit down and wash it. But is that really true?
I think the Super Bowl is a unique one because
it is so dependent on the drive by viewer. You know,

(39:55):
that number going from in the playoffs like fifty million
to one hundred and tw million. That's not based on
people like me and you Dan tuning in, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
Like we were there regardless.

Speaker 13 (40:06):
That's based on people who could take it or leave it,
who I like, quite literally could could say like no,
I'm I'm I'm you know, I go out for my walk,
you know, or I go out for a hike on
Sunday afternoon. So if the game's on at seven, I'm
gonna watch it, But if it's on at three, I'm not.
So I think that's the one hurdle is like the

(40:26):
television number, the advertising rates, all of that different stuff,
like the communal aspect of the Super Bowl. But I
think they would love to do it, you know, because
I do think growing internationally is a huge priority of
Roger Goodell's, it's a huge priority of the league offices.
It's a huge priority for a lot of owners. And
I think what they've figured out over the years, there's

(40:48):
a reason why they don't put preseason games over there anymore,
right Like they used to do that. Remember the Tokyo
Bowl back in the day, they used.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
To do that.

Speaker 13 (40:55):
And the reason they don't, the reason they don't do that,
the reason they pulled NFL Europe is they found they
felt like those things don't make a dent, Like you
got to send them the real thing, which I think
is why they feel like now they're starting to make
a dent because they're sending the real thing overseas, and
of course there'd be nothing more impactful than putting the
super Bowl in another country.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
What about a Saturday night super Bowl in London? And
you started a little bit later.

Speaker 13 (41:21):
Okay, so what you say, like the Londoners got to
put up with a ten pm kickoff or something.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
No, let's say kickoff? Is it nine? So it's four
in the US.

Speaker 13 (41:35):
But now you're talking about a Saturday rating versus a
Sunday rating. You know more about this than I do.
But isn't Sunday a much better ratings day than Saturday?

Speaker 2 (41:41):
Yeah, but it's the super Bowl and you get to
But what I'm saying you get to get up on
Sunday though you don't have to worry about Monday, right.

Speaker 13 (41:50):
But like, what I'm saying is that the super Bowl
is so dependent on that rating, is so dependent on
people who could take it or leave it, you.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
Know what I mean?

Speaker 13 (41:57):
That rating, like that rating going through the roof, you know,
is based on so many people that don't normally watch,
sitting down and watching with everybody else. And do you
lose that take it or leave it viewer if you're
putting it at a less opportune time.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
I think that's the sort of question.

Speaker 13 (42:16):
I don't know, Like maybe you don't, but I think
that's the sort of question that will get batted around.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
Did the Colts fail Anthony Richardson? No.

Speaker 13 (42:25):
I think they gave him plenty of chances to to
to to seize this and to take it and to
run with it.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
And you know, I think it's on them that they drafted, project.

Speaker 13 (42:39):
On them that they got this wrong right, but that
they got the draft pick wrong one million percent, that's
on them. I think part of it is what happens
when you predetermine in a certain year we're taking a
quarterback regardless of who's there, right, Like I think if
you remember the way the year before went Dan, like
how they went to from Matt Ryan to he went

(43:00):
to Sam Ellinger and like the owner had put a
lot of pressure, God rest his soul, had put a
lot of pressure on a lot of people like we
need to stop cycling through. And they had been through
that whole period of you know, Luck to Berset to
Rivers to Wentz to Rhyn and it's like we need
to stop this, we need to get a long term answer.
So you predetermine we're going to take one high in

(43:21):
the first round, Well, what happens when Bryce Young goes
one c j. Stroud goes to and there's nobody worth
taking fourth overall, and you force it. Like that's how
Christian Ponder goes twelfth overall. Right, So like I think
that's that's the cautionary tale here. I don't think he
was ever worth the fourth fourth overall pick. I don't think.
I think a lot of teams. I think if you'd

(43:41):
ask most teams they would tell you that if they
were honest about it, you know. And I think this
is a case of you know, coaches in his third
year where he hasn't made the playoffs yet, GM's in
his ninth year and there they can't throw another year
overboard in the name of quarterback Developmentlast year is an
interesting stat. Last year they were twenty ninth and total defense,

(44:03):
they were thirtieth in giveaways. They feel like the defensive
things been being solved by bringing in Luen and Romo
and signing guys like Cambina and Sjarvarius Ward. Now you
got to take care of the giveaway thing. And they
still won eight games to spite all of that last year.

Speaker 10 (44:16):
Right.

Speaker 13 (44:17):
You do that by being more efficient on offense. You
do that by keeping the train on the tracks on
offense and staying out of long yardage. And to me,
that hit that Anthony Richardson took that he got hurt on.
I mean, no one wanted to see the result, but
that was indicative of everything, like his awareness, his ability
to process everything in front of him. It's still not
there three years in the progress that they need to

(44:38):
see isn't there, And so you know it's not it's
for the coach, for the GM or fighting for the job,
and also for the other ten guys in the huddle
who probably are like enough of this, you know, like
you're Jonathan Taylors or Alec Pierces, your Michael Pittman's Like,
is it fair to them to say, no, we're going
to sink another year into quarterback development. I think that's
where the Colts are at right now. They just have

(44:59):
to give everyone in the organization a better answer at
the position.

Speaker 2 (45:03):
Yeah, but it's it's malpractice to put him out there
as rookie year first game that he wasn't ready for them.
He was barely ready for Florida, let alone getting to
the Colts before I let you go the holdouts. Any
updates on McLaurin and Hendrickson yeah.

Speaker 13 (45:21):
I think Hendrickson's gonna be really hard to trade the offer.
I think people would be surprised to see the raw number,
like how far the Bengals have gone just as far
as the average per year. I don't think they're at
where you know, Watt and Garrett are, but they're not
very far off. The future guarantees are the issue, and
like how willing the Bengals are to bend there. I

(45:44):
think Pride's come into it because it has been three
straight off seasons for Trey Hendrickson.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
He's been in this position.

Speaker 13 (45:48):
I think the Bengals to get Troy Hendrickson signed, may
need to make this feel like a win for Trey.
And I can't imagine. I mean, the Bengals been listening
the whole time. They want they want a high pick,
they want an active player, and they want you know,
and and and Trey's got to get his contract, which
is a lot to give up for a thirty one

(46:09):
year old if you're another team, which is why I
don't think there'll be a trade partner. As for Terry,
I think that that you know, that's one of those
where I think we get to the doorstep of the
season and everybody puts their cards on the table, and
I just think, and this is just me talking, I
think Terry is too important to what dan Quinn has

(46:30):
built there over the last eighteen months, and winning with
the Commanders and being a one team guy is too
important to Terry for them not to find some middle ground.
But it does feel like at this point they need
a deadline to push them there. And and I think
there's gonna have to be a point too for the
Commanders where they're gonna have to look at it and say,
you know what our data might tell us this that

(46:52):
like it's it's tough to sign a receiver of that
age to this sort of guarante, this sort of guarantee.
I think they're going to have to bend a little
bit and say, like this is a special case because
of what he means to our franchise.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
And I've stayed away from the Micah Parsons until there
was a trade offer or I really felt like he
was going to be traded, or because I think this
is inevitable. Is there any update on Micah partiers?

Speaker 13 (47:17):
Yeah, I mean it's a little different. I think, like
the one difference, And so I'll give you the similarities
between this and the last few. The pace of the
negotiation with this one and C. D. Lamb and Dak
Prescott and Zach Martin is the same. And it almost
feels like Jerry has taken this and said early in
the off season, you want to take our offer, fine,

(47:40):
if not, we'll see you.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
We'll see you in four or five months, you know.

Speaker 3 (47:43):
And.

Speaker 13 (47:45):
The pacing of the these negotiations seems to go this way.
It's hard to totally dismiss the idea that this helps
the Cowboys getting the A block on first take, you
know what I mean, like for the entire summer, so
you know, like that's why those deals got done. So
you know, those deals got done so close to the
beginning of the season that it's tough to rule anything

(48:06):
out now. The difference is Dak Prescott was wildly popular
in the building see Ceedee Lamb, Zach Martin wildly popular
in the building. I don't know that it's the same
way with Micah, and that may complicate things a little bit.
And Mike is also a free thinker, you know, And
so I think that the Cowboys are going to probably
put their best offer on the table, you know, at

(48:28):
some point in the two weeks between now and the opener,
and and we'll see if he takes it, but I
think it would take probably around forty five million dollars
a year.

Speaker 2 (48:37):
To get it done now, oh forty five yeah, So it's.

Speaker 13 (48:42):
Again part of it's like making the player feel like
he's a winner after, you know, putting him through all
of this.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
So I think that's where you're at. Great to talk
to you. Thanks is always safe travels, Thanks Dan.

Speaker 13 (48:53):
And we got a favor to ask of you that
I think you'll enjoy a little bit fantasy correlated, So
look out for that one.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
Oh no, hopefully you don't want advice, No no, no no.

Speaker 13 (49:06):
In fact, like I get my friends always ask me
for advice and I tell them they're they're asking the
wrong person.

Speaker 2 (49:11):
So I'm with you on that. You can ask me
now if you want to.

Speaker 13 (49:16):
Let's just say okay. So a couple of my friends
we went through because you know, like I'm the connection
to everything for them, and we went through some some
sportscasters that we all grew up watching, and they picked
you as the guy they would like to randomly select
the draft or all right. The twist is that there

(49:37):
are some inappropriate names that may still be around from
twenty years ago when we were all just out of
college and naming our teams things that I think one
of my friends said he would he would he'd die
laughing if he heard you heard you announce some of
these names. So we'll see if we okay.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
But it can't be made public though, well I promised
that I I r okay, Like Cameo, you have my promise.

Speaker 13 (50:05):
It will be destroyed after after they after everybody gets
a everybody gets chance to see.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
It because Cameo, you know, you'll have leagues that reach
out and say, would you do our draft and there's
some suspect names on their team names, and uh, you know,
I said, you know, you can't make it public, but
I'll do it for you know, the ten people in
the room. But yeah, I'll be more than happy to
do that. All right, thanks DP, I appreciate it. They'll

(50:31):
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