September 8, 2025 • 48 mins
DP recaps the first Sunday of the NFL season. Which losses actually felt like wins? HOF TE Tony Gonzalez sees the Packers as a Super Bowl-caliber team and recounts his brief basketball career – nearly earning a spot in the NBA.
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said the Dan Patrick Show. I just saw this, and
we've talked about this. I wish, I hope that we
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will get to what the NFL has a schedule maker
for college football because Week two it wasn't very good. Now,
I watched a lot of the Michigan Oklahoma game that
was fun, but for the most part, great games, great matchups.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
They were.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
They were very limited. Here is the stat that stood out.
So the top seven teams in America. Top seven ranked
teams in America won by a combined score of three
hundred and seven to twenty six. The seven ranked teams
gave up a total of two touchdowns. Wow.
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the Day, stat of the Day, poll question, all of
that forthcoming. If you turned off the TV last night,
you're probably not alone. But the Bills come back and surprise, surprise.
It's hard to go on the road and score forty
points and lose. Baltimore did that last night forty one forty.
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Now the Bills, you might recall, they lost to the
La Rams last year. That was forty four forty two.
In Week fourteen, and then you have to go back
to the Browns losing at the Chargers. Week five of
twenty twenty one teams that have lost on the road
scoring forty or more points. In fact, since twenty nineteen,
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team scoring forty or more points on the road as
seventy two and three. That was a great game last night.
But if you're Baltimore, you're a Ravens fan, and you
put up forty points at Buffalo and don't win, and
you don't stop them on you know, their their last
few drives. Your last three drives were punt fumble, punt man.
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That's got to be tough in film session today when
you're looking at that, because you had that game, You
had it, you should have won that game. But give
credit to Josh Allen for, you know, acting like an
MVP last night when you needed it the most. Here
he is after the game talking about the comeback they took.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Everybody there.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
I'm just proud of our team for staying in it.
No one on the sideline blink, I mean, down fifteen
points whatever we were with five six minutes left, staying
with it, Fans leaving you know the stadium, you know
you gotta play this game for sixty minutes, and that's
that's a really good outfit that we just played. And
you know, God willingly we take care of business how
we're supposed to and how we think we will. You know,
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it's probably a team we'll see again. So you know,
they're a greatly coached team. Hats off to them for
having a really good game plan. But you know, gotta
were stuck in there, and I'm just proud.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Of our guys.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Here's John Harball, the Ravens head coach.
Speaker 6 (04:10):
Are you disappointing. We're just going to have to regroup
and you're ready to go play a long season. We've
got sixteen games in front of us. Good football team,
tough environment. Obviously, we did many good things, but we
didn't play well at the end. Two big situations. The
fourth down play, I mean, that's kind of a play
that you don't really expect to happen. I mean, it
was pretty pretty lucky play, but they made it between
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the scrambles. Josh Allen played a great game obviously, especially
at the end.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
That's it.
Speaker 6 (04:38):
We're disappointed, but we'll be fine.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Yeah, you don't want to overreact, but then there are
certain situations where you might be overreacting today. If you're
a Dolphins fan, you're overreacting today. If you're a Colts fan,
you might be overreacting today since they blew out the Dolphins.
If you're the Lions, you don't want to overreact, even
though you lost your coordinators and you're a physical team
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and Green Bay was more physical than you. If you're
a Packer fan, you don't want to overreact because you
should be good. But you're probably overreacting just a little
bit because you're like, damn, Michael Parsons, we're good, yes, Marvin.
Speaker 7 (05:18):
If I'm a Packers fan, I'm already looking for flights
in San Francisco in February.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Rams over the Texans. I think the Rams are really good,
and if Matthew Stafford had a clean bill of health,
I would have picked them to play the Chiefs in
the Super Bowl. They beat the Texans. The Texans need
one of those bounce back years because they were Darling's
and then they fell off. They tapered off a little bit.
They need a bounce back. If I'm a Jets fan,
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I might overreact just a little bit and say, hey, okay,
now here's the bad part. You lost to Aaron Rodgers.
If you would have lost that game and Aaron Rodgers
is in the quarterback, then maybe you go, that's a
moral victory. That's pretty good there. But Aaron Rodgers coming
back to town. And then Rodgers was asked this question
after the game. You spoke about the meeting with Aaron
(06:10):
Glenn on Matti Fie a few.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
Months ago, beating him in their significance in nasense, he
basically told you to your face.
Speaker 8 (06:17):
That he he didn't think you were right.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
For that team.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Yes, that's what he did, So there's significance in beating
him for you.
Speaker 6 (06:24):
I was happy to beat everybody associated with the Jets.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Now that's good. That was a measured, snarky response by
Aaron Rodgers, and Rodgers looked really good. But if I'm
a Jets fan, okay, justin Fields, they had him passing
the ball more than running the ball. The Chargers, you
can overreact a little bit. You can't. I'll give you permission,
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not that you're asking for it, but take all the
time you want. And Justin Herbert. When Herbert was on
the show a couple of weeks ago, we talked about
why doesn't he put pressure on the defense the way
Josh Allen does. And he did talk about maybe running
more this year, and I said, and I brought up
the Rose Bowl game when he was at Oregon. By
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the way, Oregon just scored again against Oklahoma. No, yikes, pikes, Okay,
so you know, Justin Herbert should be putting pressure on
the defense by using his legs, and he did that
and that was a big win for them. I mentioned
college football that you know, a lot of these top teams,
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you know, they were. By the way, Grambling State's banned
probably has more athletes than Grambling's football team. Yeah, I'm sorry,
I'm watching. And by the way, that's a damn good band.
But that was it. Uh, you know, Hawaii Ohio State
against Grambling. But you know, some of these matchups Oklahoma
Michigan was really good. And then, uh, the Oregon Oklahoma
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State game. I'm watching and I'm going, is this Oklahoma
State Technical Institute or so, like, is this a different
Oklahoma State? And I saw Mike Gundhy on the sidelines
with his hair and I go, yeah, it's Oklahoma State.
That was shocking. That was one of those Golly, I mean,
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Oregon's good. Is Oklahma State that bad sixty nine to three.
When you look at all the scores and you're going, oh, yeah,
you know that team played you know this to you know,
you know that Ohio State against Graham. You know, nobody's
playing really competitive games Week two and then you go, oh,
Oregon won sixty nine against Oklahoma State. Oh my goodness.
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But there was a lot of football, good football, some
bad football as well. Florida, Florida Gators. That's tough. That's
a tough situation. And I'd say there's a Bunsen burner
underneath the coach Napier because that schedule, that's one of
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the toughest schedules probably in the history of college football.
And I don't know how you survived that. And I
know he got the vote of confidence last year, but
I he can't survive. That's that's that's tough. I mean
the next three or four games Guest hun LSU.
Speaker 9 (09:20):
Miami, Texas, Texas A, and m those of the next
four for the Gears.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, it doesn't get easier.
Speaker 9 (09:26):
Yeah, Paulie, there might be a couple head coaching openings
in Florida in football in the next two month.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Yeah. Yeah. Mike McDaniel was already on the hot seat,
and I think he was the odds on favorite to
be the first coach fired. Uh you know watching the
Giants with Brian Dable and Russell Wilson. But this is
what I don't want the Giants to do. Put Jackson
Dart in there right now. If Russell Wilson, you know,
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is getting banged up, I don't want Jackson Dart going
in there. Show a little patience, have a succession plan,
that's all. Let RUSS play in September and then put
Jackson Dart in there. It's a tough schedule, they have
one of the toughest schedules in the NFL. RUSS didn't
play well. The defense is pretty good, but I don't
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think Jackson Dart needs to be thrown in there. I
want to build up his confidence. I want him. I
don't need to go in there and crush his confidence.
I want to make sure that he gets an opportunity
when the team is ready to play. Yeah pulling.
Speaker 9 (10:32):
The New York Giants are at the Cowboys hosts, the
Chiefs host the Chargers. Then on October fifth, they are
at the Saints. Is that the Jackson Dart game? Local
crowd probably likes Jackson Dart a little bit played down
that way.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
I don't think I want him starting on the road.
Speaker 9 (10:49):
But then if it doesn't work out, the home fans
aren't involved.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Yeah, but I think that they have to look at
this as I mean, he's not the savior yet. I
don't think you go, oh no, he can't play, or
we're doomed. I think you're kind of doomed anyway this year.
But if he's playing, I would like to have the
home support. I'd rather face a better team at home
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than going on the road against the Sinks. All right, Seaton,
let's poll question from the first hour.
Speaker 8 (11:21):
Well, it might as well start off Monday, right, team
that had the worst weekend?
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Okay, so we're putting college and pro in there. We
could put anybody in Okay, yes, all right, Okay. To me, the.
Speaker 8 (11:34):
Clear favorite would be the Miami Dolphins. That was terrible.
Oklahoma State. Oklahoma State is most definitely in there. They
got humiliated.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Lions.
Speaker 8 (11:48):
I would say that was a terrible weekend.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Yeah, they weren't. They weren't threatening. I mean Green Bay
was a better team and more physical team. That was surprising.
And you're you know, Okay, you lose both coordinators, and
both coordinators go on to be head coaches, and you
lose Ben Johnson from that offense, and it showed they
didn't have that creativity. I think it was kind of vanilla.
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But you know, maybe Green Bay. I mean that's a
defense led team. It's almost like defense. Green Bay is
defense and then offense, and it's usually the other way around.
Speaker 8 (12:25):
Yes, that game took place about forty eight hours after
you've made your Super Bowl pick. Yeah, how are you
feeling today?
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Not good? Because the Chiefs lost as well. Yeah. My
initial two teams were going to be Green Bay or
the Rams to face the Chiefs, and I just, you
know what, as much as I want another team in there,
or Buffalo to get a chance in there, or even
the Ravens to go, it's just hard to go against
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the Chiefs, and I took the probably easy way out
to go. I'll go line in this situation, but I
am rooting for that storyline too.
Speaker 8 (13:03):
Yes, you want us to find a loophole for you
to No?
Speaker 2 (13:07):
No, okay, no no, because really the Rams are the
team that I wanted to pick. I love the Rams
this year. I just Matthew Stafford. Like, part of my
hot take was going to be Jimmy Garoppolo leads the
Rams to a Super Bowl victory. That's that's where I
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was going to go. What year is it? Exactly? But
this wasn't going to be my hot take. It was
going to be my real take that Garoppolo will lead
the Rams to a Super Bowl win. Now, it's only
I don't want to overreact week one. You know, the
Chiefs will be the Chiefs. They'll bounce back and give
credit to the Chargers. They played great. The Lions just
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didn't look threatening, they didn't look physical and uh, you
know Micah Parsons, that's a big, you know, emotional boost
for them.
Speaker 7 (14:04):
Yes, Jude for the pole question, is there any room
for Clemson in victory early third quarter losing to Troy
sixteen to three, and how to bounce back to win
twenty seven to sixteen?
Speaker 9 (14:13):
Oh yeah, I'd like to jump on that. The Bengals
are a couple points away from being on the hour
one pole question. They got beat in the second half
by the Browns. Yeah, they escaped.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
I thought the Browns were going to win the game
starting the game just because why not, you know, And
here Are the Bengals always slow out of the gate?
They didn't look they didn't look good. Brown should have
won that game. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (14:38):
See, well that's my other pole question. Here is a
loss that was really a win?
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Oh? Okay, hold that though, Let me take a break here,
savey after the prase winn he lost? Is it the
most winny loss or the most lossy win?
Speaker 8 (14:57):
Yeah, that's the flip side of that coin. It feels
very lossy.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Yeah.
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The NFL is about elite players. It's about talent, you know,
especially at the quarterbacking position. You saw that on display
last night. The Lions are an interesting team and you
lose your coordinators, You lose Ben Johnson, you lose Aaron
Glenn and that didn't come without some pain. Yesterday at Lambeau.
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This is the highest scoring offense last year, managed just
thirteen points, and their defense, you know, with that tough
minded head coach, gave up twenty seven points. Some chunk
plays as well. Now, the talent is still there with Detroit,
you know, golf is still good. I'm on Ross Saint Brown,
Aiden Hutchinson. But when you replace your coordinators, if you
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go back to what happened with Philadelphia after its twenty
twenty two Super Bowl run. The Eagles lost Shane Steichen
and Jonathan Gannon. Now they had basically the same roster
coming back. The results weren't the same. They were eleven
and six and a quick playoff loss. Another year of adjustments,
and then they were able to win another Super Bowl.
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Now that doesn't mean Detroit is doomed, but expectations may
be tempered a little bit here. Green Bay might be
a little better than we think and Detroit not as
good as what we think. You're changing coordinators, and these
were high end coordinators. You know, both became head coaches.
And it showed yesterday. You don't want to overreact, and
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sometimes you're trying to figure out what is an appropriate reaction.
If you're a Dolphin fan and you overreact, I'm with you.
I understand that. Now I think they have the Patriots
coming to town next week. I wouldn't be surprised if
they put up some big numbers there. I was just surprised. Now,
I do think the Colts are better than what people think.
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And I'm I have no problem with Danny Dimes, and
you know it was good that he got out of
New York. He has talent. I wouldn't have drafted him,
I wouldn't have re signed him. But I do understand
what the Colts are doing, and he is an upgrade
over Anthony Richardson. And it's a team that was at
least on the doorstep of making the playoffs last year.
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Game away. But you can overreact to the Dolphins because
I think that's just reacting to the Dolphins. It doesn't
sound promising look promising there. And I still watching Tyreek Hill.
I don't know who he was talking to on the sidelines,
but he was saying a whole lot on the sidelines.
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But he's just yelling. He's yelling at the air. But
Colts played really well. If I'm a Jets fan, you
can overreact. You played well. I mean, justin Field's played
pretty well. And the Steelers are a good team. I
don't know if they're a great team, but they're a
good team. You want to overreact to either Buffalo or
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Baltimore last night that they're really good offensively but defensively. Okay,
this is how it ended. Here is the last second
field goal by Matt Prater.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
Here's the snap, holds down, kick on the way and
it is good and Matt Prater, in his first game
as a Buffalo Bill, has won the ballgame. Here in
Week one, they come all the way back to win
the game at the gun with a thirty two yard
field goal for a forty one to forty victory.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Yeah, sixteen point comeback, sixteen point on a sixteen unanswered
points there. And if the Ravens get a first down
in their last three drives, now the odds are going
to drop significantly for the Buffalo Bills to win that game.
But couldn't get a purse down. And that's where you know,
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the Ravens looked unbelievable starting out, like they can't stop them,
they can't even contain them. And then all of a sudden, Buffalo, Buffalo.
It's almost as if Baltimore was scoring too quickly and
not chewing up the clock. And then Buffalo, you know,
playing the long game well as long as you could
possibly play it to have the game winning field goal.
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But they figured out something and in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 7 (20:42):
Yeah, Marvin, the Bills in the Ravens are both in
the same position where if they win or they get
to the Super Bowl, it's not going to be excitement.
It's going to be a sigh of relief because now
they're on year three and four of they're supposed to
be in the super Bowl and they get can't get
past Mahomes.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Yeah, and you know there's certain teams is where we go.
I don't care what you do during the regular season.
I want to know what you do in the postseason.
And both of those teams are in there because they
haven't won. And Lamar Jackson a couple MVPs, Josh Allen
MVP and Josh Allen the favorite again this year. It's
the same way I felt about the Cowboys. When the
Cowboys were winning twelve thirteen games. I go, I don't care,
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let me see what you do in the postseason. And
then we saw what they did in the postseason. The Chiefs,
I didn't care what Mahomes's numbers were or what their
record was. I just knew once they got to the
postseason they were going to treat it like the Patriots did,
like Michael Jordan and the Bulls did. It doesn't matter
regular season, just get to the postseason. Now the Chiefs,
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it feels like, Okay, they're receiving Corps. They'll figure it out.
They always do. But you know that division. I think
that the Raiders ended up getting that win on the road.
I think the Raiders are better than what people think
Denver playoff team Chargers winning that game against the Chiefs
and doing so in the style that they did. Now, now,
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all of a sudden, you get that top to bottom,
just like we have with the NFC North, top to bottom.
You got good teams, and you're not surprised if and
you had three teams make the playoffs from the North
last year, you're gonna have And I still believe the
Bears are a playoff caliber team. I still believe that.
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I do want to see what Ben Johnson does to
Caleb Williams tonight. Are we getting the ball out? Are we?
You know? And a lot of these younger quarterbacks don't
like stepping up in the pocket because they go back,
you know, like Tim Tebow. Tim Tebow would all of
a sudden, he'd be spinning around and you know he'd
run out of danger when he was at Floorida can't
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do that in the NFL, but these quarterbacks will do that.
If you look at old school quarterback playing, the number
of quarterbacks, you would go back and then step up.
You go back seven, you step up two or three,
and then you allowed to have protection around you. These
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quarterbacks they get back, there's pressure and then they turn
and you know, try to outrun it. You can. You
got to step up in the pocket, and these quarterbacks
will tell you it's really hard to do that from
the standpoint of there's chaos around you, and you've got
to stay and trust your linemen. You're in the pocket,
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not trying to run away from danger.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
See, yeah, that's got.
Speaker 8 (23:34):
To be one of the most difficult things in the
game to learn, is the ability to trust it and
just step up into the pocket. And I'm just gonna
trust my guys around me that I'm not about to
get leveled.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
And all the noise that you're hearing, I can't imagine
the sound that you're hearing, you know, and.
Speaker 8 (23:52):
You're going through your progressions. Yeah, let me check down
to this guy.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Got him there and they got him. Oh uh oh,
that guy sounds close. Let me throw it, let me
get rid of it.
Speaker 8 (24:03):
That guy sounds close.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Yes, yes, Poli.
Speaker 9 (24:07):
And they're doing a piece this weekend about offensive line
on NFL Network and they said, if you count the
four in your head as a quarterback, that means you're
about to get hit.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Yes, yes, it's two seconds. Really that's unless you have
something where you've got great protection. You you know, keep
your running back in whatever it is that allows you
to have four seconds five seconds. It's rare. I mean,
football is about under three seconds. What are you doing?
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Where are you going? Make up your mind? Uh, that's
why it's rare. When you see and the rookie quarterbacks
or younger quarterbacks, they're not necessarily going through their progressions
because in college you may go right there and then
maybe right there, your progression might be there and then
there that's it. Now you'll hear quarterbacks you go, hey,
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you know this tight end over here, and you got
this guy down the scene, and you got this over here,
and then I got the running back on the backfield.
Just to process that is amazing. Yes, there was a
play last night Lamar Jackson. He must have run backwards
twenty yards trying to escape. He had two dudes right
on that I mean fingertips away from sacking him, and
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he somehow turned that into like a fifteen yard game.
He might be the exception that right. I mean, you can't.
Speaker 8 (25:28):
I hate to say it, but like you can't teach
that that's just something that he can do.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
But you get these guys that they'll run sooner than
they need to and they will hold on to the
ball longer than they need to. It's one or the
other with younger quarterbacks. Because you can run out of
trouble in college. You can escape out of trouble in college,
and in the pros you can't. Because if you watched
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Caleb when he was at USC, he you know, all
over the place, and I just remember it fell. I
don't like there was a referra every time that they
would watch him play, they'd go, you can't get away
with that in the NFL. But it didn't matter. We
were watching him get away with it at USC and
you're like, damn, that's fun to watch. But it is true.
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I mean, there's only a couple of guys like Kyler Murray,
he's been fast, is still fast and still can get
out of trouble. Lamar Jackson can get out of trouble.
RG three could get out of trouble. Now he ran
into trouble and felt like on purpose. But you get
these quarterbacks who you're trying to improvise. You know, cam
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word yesterday. Just get rid of the ball. You got
Denver committing four turnovers. You can win this game just
you know, be very pragmatic. But that's not how you're wired.
You're like, I'm a playmaker. I'm gonna I'm gonna get
out of trouble here. You can't. It's all. It's almost
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like when you gamble in you win, and you hold
onto that money. All right, you're going to give it
back and it's like a quarterback that you're going to
run and get it away from somebody, but eventually they're
going to catch you and it hurts. Yeah, Pauline.
Speaker 9 (27:13):
There's quarterbacks like Kayla Williams or even Anthony Richardson. It's
like they're great with highlights. They're great at making spectacular
plays and make you believe that they're great overall, but
they're not going to I don't know what the word is,
not low lights, but like a six yard out pattern
on time's.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
There's certain quarterbacks you need to watch them play an
entire game, yeah, because you'll get the highlights and you'll
go and then you'll watch the game and you'll go man.
He doesn't know how to play the position. And I
said this about Josh Allen his first year. I didn't
think he would probably admit he did not know how
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to play the position, but he was so used to
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and we'll run through the college football results from over
the weekend and look ahead because the schedule for week
three has got to be better than it was for
week two. This is why I think, let's say Ohio
State and you schedule Grambling, couldn't we have preseason games
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in college football where they could still get a paycheck.
You're going to come out and see Ohio State play,
or you're gonna go to Ohio State and play and
you get a check, but you you can benefit them
and you get a preseason But we don't have these
games during the regular season. Is that asking too much
that these two cupcakes that we play, Can those be
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our preseason games? We can make some money for them
and we can still have quality opponents here, Yes, Marv.
Speaker 7 (29:25):
Yeah, And I don't think any colleges would go against
that because look, hey, August fifteenth, we have a game
against Gramblin.
Speaker 8 (29:31):
All right, Hey, get.
Speaker 7 (29:33):
The starters in for three or four series, let them,
you know, get a little sweat and then just keep
playing and no one has to get killed.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Yeah pulling.
Speaker 9 (29:41):
See My solution is this. The conferences schedule their own
conference games. So let's say Alabama, the conference takes care
of their own schedule, but they're out of conference games
are controlled by a master scheduler of college football, and
that master scheduler wouldn't let those games happen. You would
have to be a high end FCS team like South
Dakota or North Dakota State. Then you're allowed to jump
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up and play Alabama, but it's year by year and
you have to, like Alabama has to apply to play
an FCS team and they have to be decent or
above average.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
But the hard part is is you're trying to schedule three, four,
five years out. You know, remember Texas and Ohio State.
And I remember coming in and I'd learned that Texas
was going to play Ohio State and then I was
giving a heads up on a USC game that you
know it was going to take place five years later.
But that's you know, you're scheduling these things. It doesn't
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mean that much in a moment, but then all of
a sudden, you go, man, next year, Texas at Ohio
State or Notre Dame at Ohio State, those are great.
You know. That's where until you level the playing field
of strength to schedule or who you're playing quality opponents.
You're going to have McNee state in Samford and Grambling
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and I know it's important for them to play these games,
but you know, I think it's more important with what
we're trying to do with college football.
Speaker 9 (31:06):
Yeah, Paul, by the way, suddenly Saucy game next week.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
You could use that by the way.
Speaker 9 (31:10):
South Florida now ranked eighteenth at two and oh at
Miami Hurricane.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
That's nice.
Speaker 9 (31:15):
On the CW new is that is haste to get
your CW on.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
I had my CW on SSG. I got my cw
on over the weekend. I couldn't find my YouTube on
Friday ninth though, I couldn't find it. No, I was
getting like an alternate broadcasts European version. No, it was
just some guy who was just talking during the game.
And I'm going I thought Rich Eisen was doing this
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game and I couldn't find it. But like, what do
you mean another person talking like a manning cast? Oh,
I don't even know who the person. You know, he
could be mister Beast or somebody's you know it was
mister Beast, was it?
Speaker 9 (32:00):
Yeah, because he was part of the YouTube coverage.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Oh okay, yeah, I don't know mister Beast. I know
he's very popular. I'm calling him Beast. You get out
of me. But he can't go beast mode because somebody
else did that, just saying yeah, but mister Beast he
might have been the guy. Didn't they shoot somebody out
of a cannon? I think there was a Chiefs fan.
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I don't know what I was doing. I could have
been in my cups.
Speaker 7 (32:28):
I don't know, sabado jagonte or something like that, some
kind of wild enter tabagoing.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Of but I think the Chiefs so they they taped it.
I guess they shot a Charger fan out of a
cannon if the Chargers had lost. But then they showed
the Chiefs fan being shot out of a cannon. Once again,
I have no idea what I'm watching. Uh, but I couldn't.
I couldn't find the regular YouTube channel with our good
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buddy Rich Eisen on it. So is that the only
YouTube game this weekend or this year? Was it a
one off? There with you too?
Speaker 9 (33:03):
There's gotta be more, I'll check.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
I don't know, but I didn't realize that until I'm
going where's the game? And then all of a sudden
I got I think, mister Beast, Okay, how about we
take a break here. We will give me mister and
I don't know what mister Beast does. I want to
be respectful to mister Beast because he's got quite a
few followers. There you are calling hi, mister, I am yes,
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with great respect, mister Beast, and I think he makes
millions and millions and millions of dollars like he is.
He's a big timer. Maybe we should get mister Beast
on Maybe he could help my following. Maybe we could
tag him, Dad, did you tag mister Beast? I don't know.
I don't know how to tag anybody.
Speaker 8 (33:48):
He has currently just about four hundred and thirty one
million subscribers.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Yeah, congratulations, mister Beast.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
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Speaker 2 (34:08):
He's Tony Gonzalez Hall of Famer and you can see
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There'll be at Lambeau Thursday, the Packers hosting the Commanders
on September eleventh. Coverage begins on Thursday Night Football at
seven Eastern. Good to see again, Tony. Your second career
game was a Monday night game against Oakland.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Really? Oh yeah, yeah, I remember? Now, yep, what.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Do you remember about that?
Speaker 3 (34:39):
I remember.
Speaker 11 (34:41):
The game winning touchdown thrown by Elvis Kirback over the top.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
We thought the game was over.
Speaker 11 (34:47):
Thought, We're gonna lose and then he hit it over
the top to Andre bad Moon Rising and we won,
And I remember going, what the hell that was crazy?
Speaker 3 (34:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Where the Raiders nasty back then? Was that old school Raiders?
Speaker 3 (35:02):
Oh yeah, well the whole NFL was back back then then.
Speaker 11 (35:05):
I mean, you go the rules and everybody, I'm sure
every old head that comes on your show talks about it.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
It's a different game than what.
Speaker 11 (35:12):
It was back then, where you go across the middle,
where they were aiming at your head and.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
Trying to knock you out of the game. That was.
Speaker 11 (35:19):
That was a different part of the game. But but yeah,
the rivalry is still real.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Was there a guy on the Raiders who made you nervous?
Speaker 3 (35:29):
No? No, no, not that I can remember.
Speaker 11 (35:31):
My guy back then that I classed with was Bill Romanowski.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
That that was.
Speaker 11 (35:37):
I couldn't stand him. I still can't. I still can't
thinking back. But that's that old school football. That that
that you know, dirty tactics, uh, dirty cheap plays. Spitting
in your face, that's all the old spinning thing. I'm like, yeah,
I've been spitting the face. That's happened to me in
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the NFL.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Who's spitting your face?
Speaker 3 (36:00):
I don't know.
Speaker 11 (36:01):
I don't know the name, but i've I've I've had
it twice where somebody spit on me, one time spit
in my face and then another time spit on my
shoulder pad Uh And I can't remember the guys who
did it. I remember going nuts, going crazy, trying to
fight him, and I think, yeah, we did get into
a little fight, I believe.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
But uh but yeah, not that. Don't get me wrong.
It wasn't that common, but but it's happened.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
What did Romanowski do to you? Uh?
Speaker 11 (36:27):
The punch, the punch into the jaw after the play?
Uh yet you tackle going out of bouncing him coming
diving at your knees, hit the hit, the the father
Uh yeah, yeah, A lot a lot of talking trash
to your face, telling you, yeah, all all this difference,
and a lot of holding the guy he wasn't He wasn't.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
I didn't think he was very good, but just a
lot of rage going on there.
Speaker 11 (36:52):
I'm sure that was brought on by other stuff that
he was injecting in himself back then. Uh that brought
rage on. Uh So yeah, I didn't particularly care for
him too much. Trying to ruin people's.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Careers is what's the game that you're you're overreacting to
the result of what happened this weekend, that you either
overreacting in a positive or a negative way.
Speaker 11 (37:15):
Overacting, Uh, i'man it's probably You're probably gonna see it
this week on our on our game. Uh. I think
maybe I'm overreacting. But the Packers look like a super
Bowl team. You know, if you before the trade with Micah,
I would say I would have had them as the
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fourth best team in the NFC. And after this weekend
and seeing what they could build off of, I mean,
there is no doubt in my mind at this point.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
I don't see them a reason why they can't beat Philly.
I think for sure they have the.
Speaker 11 (37:52):
Firepower and it all comes down to Love. I mean,
people talk about Micah. That's that they're set on defense
now if nobody gets hurt. But if Jordan Love can
play like he did this past weekend with all the
weapons and they're the youngest team in the NFL, there,
their window is wide open and and I'm looking at them,
I'm very excited to watch them play a person this week.
They look like the best team in the league, or
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at least the top two teams in the league.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
What is it like though, to be on offense and
there's that disruptor on defense that when you go to
the line of scrimmage you have to account for him.
How often did that happen when you were playing? And
who were some of those guys?
Speaker 11 (38:30):
Well, I mean DeMarcus where you I played with a
great guy named Derek Thomas. I play against Reggie White,
Julius Peppers. You play against these guys that that Michael Strahan,
that that can closers, they call him closers, and like,
look at it last night's game. I was talking about
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a good buddy I used to play with, Billy Baber.
He we were talking about the game, uh with with
the Bills and the raven And at the end of
the game, you're like, who is the closer on both
their teams? And I'm and I'm thinking to myself, that's
what's probably gonna hurt this team once you get to
like the playoffs. Who is a guy and go get
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you a sack when the game is on the line
at the end of the game, Chris Jones type guy?
Speaker 3 (39:16):
Uh And And I don't know if they have.
Speaker 11 (39:18):
One, at least I haven't seen that type of guy,
and where the Packers they have that guy now. And
so that's why once they get close games they can
run the ball with Josh Jacobs and they got a
closer on the other side of the ball now to
go along with all that other talent.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
That's that what what what really what I really like
about it makes him so dangerous.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
To me talking to Tony Gunzalez, the Hall of Famer,
who is the greatest tight end in Kansas City history?
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Kansas City history?
Speaker 11 (39:42):
I don't know, give me a couple of options, Give
me a couple of options there you Okay?
Speaker 3 (39:47):
Who else?
Speaker 2 (39:48):
Kelsey?
Speaker 3 (39:49):
Okay?
Speaker 11 (39:51):
Uh, I think we both have staked our claim. I
know he's the he's the most care matic tight end
and and.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
Uh, I love I love Drapping. I love him the death.
I mean, I think what he's done for that position
on and off the field.
Speaker 11 (40:10):
But he's he's my guy, and we both did well,
uh with with what we had, and he certainly is
balling out with him and Patrick. They have that connection
and and it'll it's gonna be tough to duplicate for
anybody going forward.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
So, who's the best tight end in Kansas City history?
Speaker 3 (40:28):
Well, I always give this answer.
Speaker 11 (40:30):
Uh if if you say politically speaking, uh, you're gonna say,
you know you could choose. But confidently speaking the way
I look at myself, and I think any great player
looks at themselves and they walk out on that field,
you got to look at you rhimself like you the
baddest m effort. You have a walk around on a
damn foot, put on a paraclet. And so when I
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walked on that field, there was nobody that can guard me.
I'm gonna get open every time.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
Throw it to me.
Speaker 11 (40:56):
If you put me with with with Peyton, Manning you
or to Brady, watch out. Then the numbers I did
put up, they would have been better.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
They would have been better.
Speaker 4 (41:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Imagine if you had a steady quarterback.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
Yeah, yeah, nothing because the guys I played with. But
I mean, it is what we're talking about.
Speaker 11 (41:15):
You know, you play with a guy like like Tom
or Peyton, it changes things, or Aaron, it changes things.
Speaker 3 (41:22):
You wonder why the best.
Speaker 11 (41:23):
Receivers have usually they played with Hall of Fame time quarterbacks.
The Hall of Fame receivers played with Hall of Fame quarterbacks,
so and vice versa. It goes both ways.
Speaker 3 (41:35):
But you know it.
Speaker 8 (41:37):
I know this.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
I gave everything.
Speaker 11 (41:38):
I gott and I put up. I did some good stuff.
I just wish I would have won a little more.
That's my biggest regret. Obviously. I would have loved to
have gotten a ring. And that's where those guys, you know,
someone like Travis and Gronk and the rest of them,
they they got they got jewelry. They get to wear
big old diamond rings and they can always show them
to me. And I'm happy for him. But uh, yeah,
I wish I had one. I wish I had one.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
Ever, I have a good losch uh.
Speaker 11 (42:03):
I mean, if you psychologically want to spin it that way, Yeah,
you can have a good lot for sure, especially early
in the season.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
Early in the season, Hey, we played well. We just
went came up against them, like the Jets.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
The Jets against the Steelers played pretty well, justin fields
played pretty well. But you they lost the game.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
Now that's yeah, I.
Speaker 11 (42:19):
Think it's earlier in the season. It's it's a it's
a teaching lesson. Of course, you always want to win,
though there's there's no doubt about it.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
You played the game. As Herman Edwards Jets quote, he
played a game to win.
Speaker 11 (42:31):
So if if you can't, if you don't come out
on top, you always got have that bad taste in
your mouth.
Speaker 3 (42:36):
But you can always teach from it.
Speaker 11 (42:37):
Early in the season. At the end of the season
doesn't matter. We don't care what happened. We got to
get it done. We're trying to get to the playoffs,
so we're trying to win the playoff game.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
Who was the tight end? Who changed the position?
Speaker 11 (42:48):
I think Kellen Winslow. Okay, uh senior uh more my
my genre. I think uh, I would go with Shannon
and and and Ben Coates a little bit. I think
he doesn't get enough credit. I remember he had a
one hundred catches one year at least somebody that I
looked at, it was like, Okay, those guys are receiving
tight tight ends. But obviously I've always wanted to do both.
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But yeah, those those guys, what.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
Did you keep from when you played with the Miami
Heat in the Summer League? What was that two thousand
and two?
Speaker 3 (43:19):
Yeah? Two?
Speaker 5 (43:20):
What?
Speaker 11 (43:20):
Uh? I always look at that experience. By the way
I saw, I ran understand Van Gundy, the coach, he
was well. Pat pat Riley was our coach at the
beginning and then stand took over for the rest of
the summer. And I was always mad at him because
my first game I had uh, I had eleven rebounds played,
my guy didn't score and I only have two points
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though I was one for seven, And I asked Stan, Uh,
I was mad at him because he never he hardly
played me after that, which I didn't understand. And uh
so I ran into him this summer and he said, well,
tome what he goes. Just understand there was people higher
up than me that might have made phone calls to
make sure that you didn't have didn't get to play
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that much. And so I got a feeling it was
probably our general manager Karl Peterson back then, who was
in a contract dispield.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
That was the reason I went play, And so I
think he probably was like, hey, don't don't he you
know he's gonna play football.
Speaker 5 (44:17):
So uh.
Speaker 11 (44:18):
But I but take away pat watching pat Riley coach
and Stand coach. Uh, the four hour practices that we
had under pat Riley, that it was incredible. I never
ever experienced anything like that, A four hour practice straight
under Pat Riley, which I'm from l A too, growing
growing up watching Showtime and magic and worthy and and
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that everything at the at the Forum.
Speaker 3 (44:41):
To have pat Riley coach, that was a pretty cool thing,
pretty cool experience.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
Who would you play against in the Summer League? Uh?
Speaker 3 (44:48):
Shoot, I can't remember my team.
Speaker 11 (44:50):
I think we had one of the best Summer League
teams that we had Karan Butler, uh Elite, Jay Elite,
James James yep Rausul Butler, God, rest of soul, rest
in peace.
Speaker 3 (45:03):
Uh Malik Allen. I believe it was we had. We
were undefeated, we didn't even lose. So played with some
good guys and great coaches.
Speaker 11 (45:10):
After Smolstra was on the coaching staff, Bob mcagee was
on that coaching staff, Van coach, Van Gunday, pat Riley.
Speaker 3 (45:17):
It was. It was one of the best things I
ever did.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
Eleven rebounds for a guy who's six five, that's pretty good.
Speaker 3 (45:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (45:24):
I could play in the league, now, Dan, I could
have played. I got Okay, how about that? You want
to know what I got answered? I got answered. People say,
you think you could have played in the NBA.
Speaker 3 (45:31):
I'm like, after that experience, absolutely that I could have played.
Speaker 11 (45:34):
I wouldn't have started, probably, but because I would have
went from one, one for seven. I would have made
that three or four for seven, and I still would
have got those rebounds. So I think I could have
been in that. I would have worked myself to my
jump shot would have been a little bit better.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
Could you have been like a Draymond Green? Uh?
Speaker 11 (45:52):
I don't know about good him talking about a Hall
of Fame player, but uh, but yeah, I think I
could have played.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
There's no doubt about it.
Speaker 11 (45:57):
I know that I could have went in the league
and and got you eight to ten rebounds a game
and got you eight to ten points a game.
Speaker 3 (46:05):
I have no doubt. My mind called me crazy. I
could have done that.
Speaker 2 (46:10):
Could be making fifty million dollars a year in today's
NBA eight with those numbers.
Speaker 11 (46:15):
No shit, Hey, not underpaid like these damn tight ends.
They don't pay these tight ends. No, you start beating
that drum. They're underpaid. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
What did you get the bezos for their wedding gift?
Speaker 11 (46:32):
My?
Speaker 2 (46:32):
Uh my?
Speaker 11 (46:35):
They didn't want anything, my presence, that's what they said. Okay,
it was just to show up and bring a positive attitude.
That's the gift that you want to want to bring.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
So wait, you didn't have to. They weren't registered anywhere nobody,
nobody brought any gift. They had to be registered on Amazon.
Speaker 3 (46:52):
Give me an idea, what would you have gotten them?
Speaker 2 (46:57):
He does kind of have everything. Maybe maybe just like
an autograph picture of you.
Speaker 3 (47:06):
I don't think they would have wanted that. I would
have went bottom drawer.
Speaker 2 (47:14):
Yeah, great to talk to you.
Speaker 3 (47:17):
Yeah, that's always hope.
Speaker 2 (47:18):
You're having fun. You look good, look like you could
take a couple of snaps.
Speaker 3 (47:23):
Yeah, I could go five yard turn around? Okay, good down?
Yeah I could do that still.
Speaker 2 (47:28):
I mean there's some teams that could do that. That's
what Kelsey's doing. Now, are you going to go to
the wedding? You think you'll get invited to that wedding too?
Speaker 3 (47:39):
Maybe? Maybe?
Speaker 11 (47:40):
I think that'd be a good one. That'd be a
fun one. I gotta feel they're gonna keep that one
kind of small.
Speaker 2 (47:45):
Oh okay, that's one of those. You can see Tony
Thursday Night Football. It'll be on the eleventh. It'll be
the Commanders and the Packers from Lambeau. Thank you, ton
great to see you again. Man as always, Dan, Thanks
have you. Tony Gonzales
You are listening to The Dan Patrick Show on Fox
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will get to what the NFL has a schedule maker
for college football because Week two it wasn't very good. Now,
I watched a lot of the Michigan Oklahoma game that
was fun, but for the most part, great games, great matchups.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
They were.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
They were very limited. Here is the stat that stood out.
So the top seven teams in America. Top seven ranked
teams in America won by a combined score of three
hundred and seven to twenty six. The seven ranked teams
gave up a total of two touchdowns. Wow.
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the Day, stat of the Day, poll question, all of
that forthcoming. If you turned off the TV last night,
you're probably not alone. But the Bills come back and surprise, surprise.
It's hard to go on the road and score forty
points and lose. Baltimore did that last night forty one forty.
(02:28):
Now the Bills, you might recall, they lost to the
La Rams last year. That was forty four forty two.
In Week fourteen, and then you have to go back
to the Browns losing at the Chargers. Week five of
twenty twenty one teams that have lost on the road
scoring forty or more points. In fact, since twenty nineteen,
(02:52):
team scoring forty or more points on the road as
seventy two and three. That was a great game last night.
But if you're Baltimore, you're a Ravens fan, and you
put up forty points at Buffalo and don't win, and
you don't stop them on you know, their their last
few drives. Your last three drives were punt fumble, punt man.
(03:16):
That's got to be tough in film session today when
you're looking at that, because you had that game, You
had it, you should have won that game. But give
credit to Josh Allen for, you know, acting like an
MVP last night when you needed it the most. Here
he is after the game talking about the comeback they took.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Everybody there.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
I'm just proud of our team for staying in it.
No one on the sideline blink, I mean, down fifteen
points whatever we were with five six minutes left, staying
with it, Fans leaving you know the stadium, you know
you gotta play this game for sixty minutes, and that's
that's a really good outfit that we just played. And
you know, God willingly we take care of business how
we're supposed to and how we think we will. You know,
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it's probably a team we'll see again. So you know,
they're a greatly coached team. Hats off to them for
having a really good game plan. But you know, gotta
were stuck in there, and I'm just proud.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Of our guys.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Here's John Harball, the Ravens head coach.
Speaker 6 (04:10):
Are you disappointing. We're just going to have to regroup
and you're ready to go play a long season. We've
got sixteen games in front of us. Good football team,
tough environment. Obviously, we did many good things, but we
didn't play well at the end. Two big situations. The
fourth down play, I mean, that's kind of a play
that you don't really expect to happen. I mean, it
was pretty pretty lucky play, but they made it between
(04:33):
the scrambles. Josh Allen played a great game obviously, especially
at the end.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
That's it.
Speaker 6 (04:38):
We're disappointed, but we'll be fine.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Yeah, you don't want to overreact, but then there are
certain situations where you might be overreacting today. If you're
a Dolphins fan, you're overreacting today. If you're a Colts fan,
you might be overreacting today since they blew out the Dolphins.
If you're the Lions, you don't want to overreact, even
though you lost your coordinators and you're a physical team
(05:02):
and Green Bay was more physical than you. If you're
a Packer fan, you don't want to overreact because you
should be good. But you're probably overreacting just a little
bit because you're like, damn, Michael Parsons, we're good, yes, Marvin.
Speaker 7 (05:18):
If I'm a Packers fan, I'm already looking for flights
in San Francisco in February.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Rams over the Texans. I think the Rams are really good,
and if Matthew Stafford had a clean bill of health,
I would have picked them to play the Chiefs in
the Super Bowl. They beat the Texans. The Texans need
one of those bounce back years because they were Darling's
and then they fell off. They tapered off a little bit.
They need a bounce back. If I'm a Jets fan,
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I might overreact just a little bit and say, hey, okay,
now here's the bad part. You lost to Aaron Rodgers.
If you would have lost that game and Aaron Rodgers
is in the quarterback, then maybe you go, that's a
moral victory. That's pretty good there. But Aaron Rodgers coming
back to town. And then Rodgers was asked this question
after the game. You spoke about the meeting with Aaron
(06:10):
Glenn on Matti Fie a few.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
Months ago, beating him in their significance in nasense, he
basically told you to your face.
Speaker 8 (06:17):
That he he didn't think you were right.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
For that team.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Yes, that's what he did, So there's significance in beating
him for you.
Speaker 6 (06:24):
I was happy to beat everybody associated with the Jets.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Now that's good. That was a measured, snarky response by
Aaron Rodgers, and Rodgers looked really good. But if I'm
a Jets fan, okay, justin Fields, they had him passing
the ball more than running the ball. The Chargers, you
can overreact a little bit. You can't. I'll give you permission,
(06:50):
not that you're asking for it, but take all the
time you want. And Justin Herbert. When Herbert was on
the show a couple of weeks ago, we talked about
why doesn't he put pressure on the defense the way
Josh Allen does. And he did talk about maybe running
more this year, and I said, and I brought up
the Rose Bowl game when he was at Oregon. By
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the way, Oregon just scored again against Oklahoma. No, yikes, pikes, Okay,
so you know, Justin Herbert should be putting pressure on
the defense by using his legs, and he did that
and that was a big win for them. I mentioned
college football that you know, a lot of these top teams,
(07:32):
you know, they were. By the way, Grambling State's banned
probably has more athletes than Grambling's football team. Yeah, I'm sorry,
I'm watching. And by the way, that's a damn good band.
But that was it. Uh, you know, Hawaii Ohio State
against Grambling. But you know, some of these matchups Oklahoma
Michigan was really good. And then, uh, the Oregon Oklahoma
(07:56):
State game. I'm watching and I'm going, is this Oklahoma
State Technical Institute or so, like, is this a different
Oklahoma State? And I saw Mike Gundhy on the sidelines
with his hair and I go, yeah, it's Oklahoma State.
That was shocking. That was one of those Golly, I mean,
(08:17):
Oregon's good. Is Oklahma State that bad sixty nine to three.
When you look at all the scores and you're going, oh, yeah,
you know that team played you know this to you know,
you know that Ohio State against Graham. You know, nobody's
playing really competitive games Week two and then you go, oh,
Oregon won sixty nine against Oklahoma State. Oh my goodness.
(08:41):
But there was a lot of football, good football, some
bad football as well. Florida, Florida Gators. That's tough. That's
a tough situation. And I'd say there's a Bunsen burner
underneath the coach Napier because that schedule, that's one of
(09:01):
the toughest schedules probably in the history of college football.
And I don't know how you survived that. And I
know he got the vote of confidence last year, but
I he can't survive. That's that's that's tough. I mean
the next three or four games Guest hun LSU.
Speaker 9 (09:20):
Miami, Texas, Texas A, and m those of the next
four for the Gears.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, it doesn't get easier.
Speaker 9 (09:26):
Yeah, Paulie, there might be a couple head coaching openings
in Florida in football in the next two month.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Yeah. Yeah. Mike McDaniel was already on the hot seat,
and I think he was the odds on favorite to
be the first coach fired. Uh you know watching the
Giants with Brian Dable and Russell Wilson. But this is
what I don't want the Giants to do. Put Jackson
Dart in there right now. If Russell Wilson, you know,
(09:53):
is getting banged up, I don't want Jackson Dart going
in there. Show a little patience, have a succession plan,
that's all. Let RUSS play in September and then put
Jackson Dart in there. It's a tough schedule, they have
one of the toughest schedules in the NFL. RUSS didn't
play well. The defense is pretty good, but I don't
(10:18):
think Jackson Dart needs to be thrown in there. I
want to build up his confidence. I want him. I
don't need to go in there and crush his confidence.
I want to make sure that he gets an opportunity
when the team is ready to play. Yeah pulling.
Speaker 9 (10:32):
The New York Giants are at the Cowboys hosts, the
Chiefs host the Chargers. Then on October fifth, they are
at the Saints. Is that the Jackson Dart game? Local
crowd probably likes Jackson Dart a little bit played down
that way.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
I don't think I want him starting on the road.
Speaker 9 (10:49):
But then if it doesn't work out, the home fans
aren't involved.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Yeah, but I think that they have to look at
this as I mean, he's not the savior yet. I
don't think you go, oh no, he can't play, or
we're doomed. I think you're kind of doomed anyway this year.
But if he's playing, I would like to have the
home support. I'd rather face a better team at home
(11:14):
than going on the road against the Sinks. All right, Seaton,
let's poll question from the first hour.
Speaker 8 (11:21):
Well, it might as well start off Monday, right, team
that had the worst weekend?
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Okay, so we're putting college and pro in there. We
could put anybody in Okay, yes, all right, Okay. To me, the.
Speaker 8 (11:34):
Clear favorite would be the Miami Dolphins. That was terrible.
Oklahoma State. Oklahoma State is most definitely in there. They
got humiliated.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Lions.
Speaker 8 (11:48):
I would say that was a terrible weekend.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Yeah, they weren't. They weren't threatening. I mean Green Bay
was a better team and more physical team. That was surprising.
And you're you know, Okay, you lose both coordinators, and
both coordinators go on to be head coaches, and you
lose Ben Johnson from that offense, and it showed they
didn't have that creativity. I think it was kind of vanilla.
(12:13):
But you know, maybe Green Bay. I mean that's a
defense led team. It's almost like defense. Green Bay is
defense and then offense, and it's usually the other way around.
Speaker 8 (12:25):
Yes, that game took place about forty eight hours after
you've made your Super Bowl pick. Yeah, how are you
feeling today?
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Not good? Because the Chiefs lost as well. Yeah. My
initial two teams were going to be Green Bay or
the Rams to face the Chiefs, and I just, you
know what, as much as I want another team in there,
or Buffalo to get a chance in there, or even
the Ravens to go, it's just hard to go against
(12:53):
the Chiefs, and I took the probably easy way out
to go. I'll go line in this situation, but I
am rooting for that storyline too.
Speaker 8 (13:03):
Yes, you want us to find a loophole for you
to No?
Speaker 2 (13:07):
No, okay, no no, because really the Rams are the
team that I wanted to pick. I love the Rams
this year. I just Matthew Stafford. Like, part of my
hot take was going to be Jimmy Garoppolo leads the
Rams to a Super Bowl victory. That's that's where I
(13:28):
was going to go. What year is it? Exactly? But
this wasn't going to be my hot take. It was
going to be my real take that Garoppolo will lead
the Rams to a Super Bowl win. Now, it's only
I don't want to overreact week one. You know, the
Chiefs will be the Chiefs. They'll bounce back and give
credit to the Chargers. They played great. The Lions just
(13:51):
didn't look threatening, they didn't look physical and uh, you
know Micah Parsons, that's a big, you know, emotional boost
for them.
Speaker 7 (14:04):
Yes, Jude for the pole question, is there any room
for Clemson in victory early third quarter losing to Troy
sixteen to three, and how to bounce back to win
twenty seven to sixteen?
Speaker 9 (14:13):
Oh yeah, I'd like to jump on that. The Bengals
are a couple points away from being on the hour
one pole question. They got beat in the second half
by the Browns. Yeah, they escaped.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
I thought the Browns were going to win the game
starting the game just because why not, you know, And
here Are the Bengals always slow out of the gate?
They didn't look they didn't look good. Brown should have
won that game. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (14:38):
See, well that's my other pole question. Here is a
loss that was really a win?
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Oh? Okay, hold that though, Let me take a break here,
savey after the prase winn he lost? Is it the
most winny loss or the most lossy win?
Speaker 8 (14:57):
Yeah, that's the flip side of that coin. It feels
very lossy.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
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The NFL is about elite players. It's about talent, you know,
especially at the quarterbacking position. You saw that on display
last night. The Lions are an interesting team and you
lose your coordinators, You lose Ben Johnson, you lose Aaron
Glenn and that didn't come without some pain. Yesterday at Lambeau.
(16:36):
This is the highest scoring offense last year, managed just
thirteen points, and their defense, you know, with that tough
minded head coach, gave up twenty seven points. Some chunk
plays as well. Now, the talent is still there with Detroit,
you know, golf is still good. I'm on Ross Saint Brown,
Aiden Hutchinson. But when you replace your coordinators, if you
(16:58):
go back to what happened with Philadelphia after its twenty
twenty two Super Bowl run. The Eagles lost Shane Steichen
and Jonathan Gannon. Now they had basically the same roster
coming back. The results weren't the same. They were eleven
and six and a quick playoff loss. Another year of adjustments,
and then they were able to win another Super Bowl.
(17:20):
Now that doesn't mean Detroit is doomed, but expectations may
be tempered a little bit here. Green Bay might be
a little better than we think and Detroit not as
good as what we think. You're changing coordinators, and these
were high end coordinators. You know, both became head coaches.
And it showed yesterday. You don't want to overreact, and
(17:44):
sometimes you're trying to figure out what is an appropriate reaction.
If you're a Dolphin fan and you overreact, I'm with you.
I understand that. Now I think they have the Patriots
coming to town next week. I wouldn't be surprised if
they put up some big numbers there. I was just surprised. Now,
I do think the Colts are better than what people think.
(18:06):
And I'm I have no problem with Danny Dimes, and
you know it was good that he got out of
New York. He has talent. I wouldn't have drafted him,
I wouldn't have re signed him. But I do understand
what the Colts are doing, and he is an upgrade
over Anthony Richardson. And it's a team that was at
least on the doorstep of making the playoffs last year.
(18:27):
Game away. But you can overreact to the Dolphins because
I think that's just reacting to the Dolphins. It doesn't
sound promising look promising there. And I still watching Tyreek Hill.
I don't know who he was talking to on the sidelines,
but he was saying a whole lot on the sidelines.
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But he's just yelling. He's yelling at the air. But
Colts played really well. If I'm a Jets fan, you
can overreact. You played well. I mean, justin Field's played
pretty well. And the Steelers are a good team. I
don't know if they're a great team, but they're a
good team. You want to overreact to either Buffalo or
(19:13):
Baltimore last night that they're really good offensively but defensively. Okay,
this is how it ended. Here is the last second
field goal by Matt Prater.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
Here's the snap, holds down, kick on the way and
it is good and Matt Prater, in his first game
as a Buffalo Bill, has won the ballgame. Here in
Week one, they come all the way back to win
the game at the gun with a thirty two yard
field goal for a forty one to forty victory.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Yeah, sixteen point comeback, sixteen point on a sixteen unanswered
points there. And if the Ravens get a first down
in their last three drives, now the odds are going
to drop significantly for the Buffalo Bills to win that game.
But couldn't get a purse down. And that's where you know,
(20:15):
the Ravens looked unbelievable starting out, like they can't stop them,
they can't even contain them. And then all of a sudden, Buffalo, Buffalo.
It's almost as if Baltimore was scoring too quickly and
not chewing up the clock. And then Buffalo, you know,
playing the long game well as long as you could
possibly play it to have the game winning field goal.
(20:38):
But they figured out something and in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 7 (20:42):
Yeah, Marvin, the Bills in the Ravens are both in
the same position where if they win or they get
to the Super Bowl, it's not going to be excitement.
It's going to be a sigh of relief because now
they're on year three and four of they're supposed to
be in the super Bowl and they get can't get
past Mahomes.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Yeah, and you know there's certain teams is where we go.
I don't care what you do during the regular season.
I want to know what you do in the postseason.
And both of those teams are in there because they
haven't won. And Lamar Jackson a couple MVPs, Josh Allen
MVP and Josh Allen the favorite again this year. It's
the same way I felt about the Cowboys. When the
Cowboys were winning twelve thirteen games. I go, I don't care,
(21:20):
let me see what you do in the postseason. And
then we saw what they did in the postseason. The Chiefs,
I didn't care what Mahomes's numbers were or what their
record was. I just knew once they got to the
postseason they were going to treat it like the Patriots did,
like Michael Jordan and the Bulls did. It doesn't matter
regular season, just get to the postseason. Now the Chiefs,
(21:43):
it feels like, Okay, they're receiving Corps. They'll figure it out.
They always do. But you know that division. I think
that the Raiders ended up getting that win on the road.
I think the Raiders are better than what people think
Denver playoff team Chargers winning that game against the Chiefs
and doing so in the style that they did. Now, now,
(22:06):
all of a sudden, you get that top to bottom,
just like we have with the NFC North, top to bottom.
You got good teams, and you're not surprised if and
you had three teams make the playoffs from the North
last year, you're gonna have And I still believe the
Bears are a playoff caliber team. I still believe that.
(22:28):
I do want to see what Ben Johnson does to
Caleb Williams tonight. Are we getting the ball out? Are we?
You know? And a lot of these younger quarterbacks don't
like stepping up in the pocket because they go back,
you know, like Tim Tebow. Tim Tebow would all of
a sudden, he'd be spinning around and you know he'd
run out of danger when he was at Floorida can't
(22:49):
do that in the NFL, but these quarterbacks will do that.
If you look at old school quarterback playing, the number
of quarterbacks, you would go back and then step up.
You go back seven, you step up two or three,
and then you allowed to have protection around you. These
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quarterbacks they get back, there's pressure and then they turn
and you know, try to outrun it. You can. You
got to step up in the pocket, and these quarterbacks
will tell you it's really hard to do that from
the standpoint of there's chaos around you, and you've got
to stay and trust your linemen. You're in the pocket,
(23:30):
not trying to run away from danger.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
See, yeah, that's got.
Speaker 8 (23:34):
To be one of the most difficult things in the
game to learn, is the ability to trust it and
just step up into the pocket. And I'm just gonna
trust my guys around me that I'm not about to
get leveled.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
And all the noise that you're hearing, I can't imagine
the sound that you're hearing, you know, and.
Speaker 8 (23:52):
You're going through your progressions. Yeah, let me check down
to this guy.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Got him there and they got him. Oh uh oh,
that guy sounds close. Let me throw it, let me
get rid of it.
Speaker 8 (24:03):
That guy sounds close.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Yes, yes, Poli.
Speaker 9 (24:07):
And they're doing a piece this weekend about offensive line
on NFL Network and they said, if you count the
four in your head as a quarterback, that means you're
about to get hit.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Yes, yes, it's two seconds. Really that's unless you have
something where you've got great protection. You you know, keep
your running back in whatever it is that allows you
to have four seconds five seconds. It's rare. I mean,
football is about under three seconds. What are you doing?
(24:38):
Where are you going? Make up your mind? Uh, that's
why it's rare. When you see and the rookie quarterbacks
or younger quarterbacks, they're not necessarily going through their progressions
because in college you may go right there and then
maybe right there, your progression might be there and then
there that's it. Now you'll hear quarterbacks you go, hey,
(24:59):
you know this tight end over here, and you got
this guy down the scene, and you got this over here,
and then I got the running back on the backfield.
Just to process that is amazing. Yes, there was a
play last night Lamar Jackson. He must have run backwards
twenty yards trying to escape. He had two dudes right
on that I mean fingertips away from sacking him, and
(25:20):
he somehow turned that into like a fifteen yard game.
He might be the exception that right. I mean, you can't.
Speaker 8 (25:28):
I hate to say it, but like you can't teach
that that's just something that he can do.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
But you get these guys that they'll run sooner than
they need to and they will hold on to the
ball longer than they need to. It's one or the
other with younger quarterbacks. Because you can run out of
trouble in college. You can escape out of trouble in college,
and in the pros you can't. Because if you watched
(25:53):
Caleb when he was at USC, he you know, all
over the place, and I just remember it fell. I
don't like there was a referra every time that they
would watch him play, they'd go, you can't get away
with that in the NFL. But it didn't matter. We
were watching him get away with it at USC and
you're like, damn, that's fun to watch. But it is true.
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I mean, there's only a couple of guys like Kyler Murray,
he's been fast, is still fast and still can get
out of trouble. Lamar Jackson can get out of trouble.
RG three could get out of trouble. Now he ran
into trouble and felt like on purpose. But you get
these quarterbacks who you're trying to improvise. You know, cam
(26:36):
word yesterday. Just get rid of the ball. You got
Denver committing four turnovers. You can win this game just
you know, be very pragmatic. But that's not how you're wired.
You're like, I'm a playmaker. I'm gonna I'm gonna get
out of trouble here. You can't. It's all. It's almost
(26:58):
like when you gamble in you win, and you hold
onto that money. All right, you're going to give it
back and it's like a quarterback that you're going to
run and get it away from somebody, but eventually they're
going to catch you and it hurts. Yeah, Pauline.
Speaker 9 (27:13):
There's quarterbacks like Kayla Williams or even Anthony Richardson. It's
like they're great with highlights. They're great at making spectacular
plays and make you believe that they're great overall, but
they're not going to I don't know what the word is,
not low lights, but like a six yard out pattern
on time's.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
There's certain quarterbacks you need to watch them play an
entire game, yeah, because you'll get the highlights and you'll
go and then you'll watch the game and you'll go man.
He doesn't know how to play the position. And I
said this about Josh Allen his first year. I didn't
think he would probably admit he did not know how
(27:49):
to play the position, but he was so used to
running around at Wyoming and making plays. You get to
the NFL and you got to break yourself for those
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and we'll run through the college football results from over
the weekend and look ahead because the schedule for week
three has got to be better than it was for
week two. This is why I think, let's say Ohio
State and you schedule Grambling, couldn't we have preseason games
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in college football where they could still get a paycheck.
You're going to come out and see Ohio State play,
or you're gonna go to Ohio State and play and
you get a check, but you you can benefit them
and you get a preseason But we don't have these
games during the regular season. Is that asking too much
that these two cupcakes that we play, Can those be
(29:17):
our preseason games? We can make some money for them
and we can still have quality opponents here, Yes, Marv.
Speaker 7 (29:25):
Yeah, And I don't think any colleges would go against
that because look, hey, August fifteenth, we have a game
against Gramblin.
Speaker 8 (29:31):
All right, Hey, get.
Speaker 7 (29:33):
The starters in for three or four series, let them,
you know, get a little sweat and then just keep
playing and no one has to get killed.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Yeah pulling.
Speaker 9 (29:41):
See My solution is this. The conferences schedule their own
conference games. So let's say Alabama, the conference takes care
of their own schedule, but they're out of conference games
are controlled by a master scheduler of college football, and
that master scheduler wouldn't let those games happen. You would
have to be a high end FCS team like South
Dakota or North Dakota State. Then you're allowed to jump
(30:03):
up and play Alabama, but it's year by year and
you have to, like Alabama has to apply to play
an FCS team and they have to be decent or
above average.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
But the hard part is is you're trying to schedule three, four,
five years out. You know, remember Texas and Ohio State.
And I remember coming in and I'd learned that Texas
was going to play Ohio State and then I was
giving a heads up on a USC game that you
know it was going to take place five years later.
But that's you know, you're scheduling these things. It doesn't
(30:34):
mean that much in a moment, but then all of
a sudden, you go, man, next year, Texas at Ohio
State or Notre Dame at Ohio State, those are great.
You know. That's where until you level the playing field
of strength to schedule or who you're playing quality opponents.
You're going to have McNee state in Samford and Grambling
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and I know it's important for them to play these games,
but you know, I think it's more important with what
we're trying to do with college football.
Speaker 9 (31:06):
Yeah, Paul, by the way, suddenly Saucy game next week.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
You could use that by the way.
Speaker 9 (31:10):
South Florida now ranked eighteenth at two and oh at
Miami Hurricane.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
That's nice.
Speaker 9 (31:15):
On the CW new is that is haste to get
your CW on.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
I had my CW on SSG. I got my cw
on over the weekend. I couldn't find my YouTube on
Friday ninth though, I couldn't find it. No, I was
getting like an alternate broadcasts European version. No, it was
just some guy who was just talking during the game.
And I'm going I thought Rich Eisen was doing this
(31:43):
game and I couldn't find it. But like, what do
you mean another person talking like a manning cast? Oh,
I don't even know who the person. You know, he
could be mister Beast or somebody's you know it was
mister Beast, was it?
Speaker 9 (32:00):
Yeah, because he was part of the YouTube coverage.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Oh okay, yeah, I don't know mister Beast. I know
he's very popular. I'm calling him Beast. You get out
of me. But he can't go beast mode because somebody
else did that, just saying yeah, but mister Beast he
might have been the guy. Didn't they shoot somebody out
of a cannon? I think there was a Chiefs fan.
(32:23):
I don't know what I was doing. I could have
been in my cups.
Speaker 7 (32:28):
I don't know, sabado jagonte or something like that, some
kind of wild enter tabagoing.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Of but I think the Chiefs so they they taped it.
I guess they shot a Charger fan out of a
cannon if the Chargers had lost. But then they showed
the Chiefs fan being shot out of a cannon. Once again,
I have no idea what I'm watching. Uh, but I couldn't.
I couldn't find the regular YouTube channel with our good
(32:53):
buddy Rich Eisen on it. So is that the only
YouTube game this weekend or this year? Was it a
one off? There with you too?
Speaker 9 (33:03):
There's gotta be more, I'll check.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
I don't know, but I didn't realize that until I'm
going where's the game? And then all of a sudden
I got I think, mister Beast, Okay, how about we
take a break here. We will give me mister and
I don't know what mister Beast does. I want to
be respectful to mister Beast because he's got quite a
few followers. There you are calling hi, mister, I am yes,
(33:27):
with great respect, mister Beast, and I think he makes
millions and millions and millions of dollars like he is.
He's a big timer. Maybe we should get mister Beast
on Maybe he could help my following. Maybe we could
tag him, Dad, did you tag mister Beast? I don't know.
I don't know how to tag anybody.
Speaker 8 (33:48):
He has currently just about four hundred and thirty one
million subscribers.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Yeah, congratulations, mister Beast.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
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Speaker 2 (34:08):
He's Tony Gonzalez Hall of Famer and you can see
him Thursday Night Football on Prime a fourth season of that.
There'll be at Lambeau Thursday, the Packers hosting the Commanders
on September eleventh. Coverage begins on Thursday Night Football at
seven Eastern. Good to see again, Tony. Your second career
game was a Monday night game against Oakland.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Really? Oh yeah, yeah, I remember? Now, yep, what.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Do you remember about that?
Speaker 3 (34:39):
I remember.
Speaker 11 (34:41):
The game winning touchdown thrown by Elvis Kirback over the top.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
We thought the game was over.
Speaker 11 (34:47):
Thought, We're gonna lose and then he hit it over
the top to Andre bad Moon Rising and we won,
And I remember going, what the hell that was crazy?
Speaker 3 (34:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Where the Raiders nasty back then? Was that old school Raiders?
Speaker 3 (35:02):
Oh yeah, well the whole NFL was back back then then.
Speaker 11 (35:05):
I mean, you go the rules and everybody, I'm sure
every old head that comes on your show talks about it.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
It's a different game than what.
Speaker 11 (35:12):
It was back then, where you go across the middle,
where they were aiming at your head and.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
Trying to knock you out of the game. That was.
Speaker 11 (35:19):
That was a different part of the game. But but yeah,
the rivalry is still real.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Was there a guy on the Raiders who made you nervous?
Speaker 3 (35:29):
No? No, no, not that I can remember.
Speaker 11 (35:31):
My guy back then that I classed with was Bill Romanowski.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
That that was.
Speaker 11 (35:37):
I couldn't stand him. I still can't. I still can't
thinking back. But that's that old school football. That that
that you know, dirty tactics, uh, dirty cheap plays. Spitting
in your face, that's all the old spinning thing. I'm like, yeah,
I've been spitting the face. That's happened to me in
(35:58):
the NFL.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Who's spitting your face?
Speaker 3 (36:00):
I don't know.
Speaker 11 (36:01):
I don't know the name, but i've I've I've had
it twice where somebody spit on me, one time spit
in my face and then another time spit on my
shoulder pad Uh And I can't remember the guys who
did it. I remember going nuts, going crazy, trying to
fight him, and I think, yeah, we did get into
a little fight, I believe.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
But uh but yeah, not that. Don't get me wrong.
It wasn't that common, but but it's happened.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
What did Romanowski do to you? Uh?
Speaker 11 (36:27):
The punch, the punch into the jaw after the play?
Uh yet you tackle going out of bouncing him coming
diving at your knees, hit the hit, the the father
Uh yeah, yeah, A lot a lot of talking trash
to your face, telling you, yeah, all all this difference,
and a lot of holding the guy he wasn't He wasn't.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
I didn't think he was very good, but just a
lot of rage going on there.
Speaker 11 (36:52):
I'm sure that was brought on by other stuff that
he was injecting in himself back then. Uh that brought
rage on. Uh So yeah, I didn't particularly care for
him too much. Trying to ruin people's.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Careers is what's the game that you're you're overreacting to
the result of what happened this weekend, that you either
overreacting in a positive or a negative way.
Speaker 11 (37:15):
Overacting, Uh, i'man it's probably You're probably gonna see it
this week on our on our game. Uh. I think
maybe I'm overreacting. But the Packers look like a super
Bowl team. You know, if you before the trade with Micah,
I would say I would have had them as the
(37:37):
fourth best team in the NFC. And after this weekend
and seeing what they could build off of, I mean,
there is no doubt in my mind at this point.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
I don't see them a reason why they can't beat Philly.
I think for sure they have the.
Speaker 11 (37:52):
Firepower and it all comes down to Love. I mean,
people talk about Micah. That's that they're set on defense
now if nobody gets hurt. But if Jordan Love can
play like he did this past weekend with all the
weapons and they're the youngest team in the NFL, there,
their window is wide open and and I'm looking at them,
I'm very excited to watch them play a person this week.
They look like the best team in the league, or
(38:14):
at least the top two teams in the league.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
What is it like though, to be on offense and
there's that disruptor on defense that when you go to
the line of scrimmage you have to account for him.
How often did that happen when you were playing? And
who were some of those guys?
Speaker 11 (38:30):
Well, I mean DeMarcus where you I played with a
great guy named Derek Thomas. I play against Reggie White,
Julius Peppers. You play against these guys that that Michael Strahan,
that that can closers, they call him closers, and like,
look at it last night's game. I was talking about
(38:50):
a good buddy I used to play with, Billy Baber.
He we were talking about the game, uh with with
the Bills and the raven And at the end of
the game, you're like, who is the closer on both
their teams? And I'm and I'm thinking to myself, that's
what's probably gonna hurt this team once you get to
like the playoffs. Who is a guy and go get
(39:11):
you a sack when the game is on the line
at the end of the game, Chris Jones type guy?
Speaker 3 (39:16):
Uh And And I don't know if they have.
Speaker 11 (39:18):
One, at least I haven't seen that type of guy,
and where the Packers they have that guy now. And
so that's why once they get close games they can
run the ball with Josh Jacobs and they got a
closer on the other side of the ball now to
go along with all that other talent.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
That's that what what what really what I really like
about it makes him so dangerous.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
To me talking to Tony Gunzalez, the Hall of Famer,
who is the greatest tight end in Kansas City history?
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Kansas City history?
Speaker 11 (39:42):
I don't know, give me a couple of options, Give
me a couple of options there you Okay?
Speaker 3 (39:47):
Who else?
Speaker 2 (39:48):
Kelsey?
Speaker 3 (39:49):
Okay?
Speaker 11 (39:51):
Uh, I think we both have staked our claim. I
know he's the he's the most care matic tight end
and and.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
Uh, I love I love Drapping. I love him the death.
I mean, I think what he's done for that position
on and off the field.
Speaker 11 (40:10):
But he's he's my guy, and we both did well,
uh with with what we had, and he certainly is
balling out with him and Patrick. They have that connection
and and it'll it's gonna be tough to duplicate for
anybody going forward.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
So, who's the best tight end in Kansas City history?
Speaker 3 (40:28):
Well, I always give this answer.
Speaker 11 (40:30):
Uh if if you say politically speaking, uh, you're gonna say,
you know you could choose. But confidently speaking the way
I look at myself, and I think any great player
looks at themselves and they walk out on that field,
you got to look at you rhimself like you the
baddest m effort. You have a walk around on a
damn foot, put on a paraclet. And so when I
(40:51):
walked on that field, there was nobody that can guard me.
I'm gonna get open every time.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
Throw it to me.
Speaker 11 (40:56):
If you put me with with with Peyton, Manning you
or to Brady, watch out. Then the numbers I did
put up, they would have been better.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
They would have been better.
Speaker 4 (41:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Imagine if you had a steady quarterback.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
Yeah, yeah, nothing because the guys I played with. But
I mean, it is what we're talking about.
Speaker 11 (41:15):
You know, you play with a guy like like Tom
or Peyton, it changes things, or Aaron, it changes things.
Speaker 3 (41:22):
You wonder why the best.
Speaker 11 (41:23):
Receivers have usually they played with Hall of Fame time quarterbacks.
The Hall of Fame receivers played with Hall of Fame quarterbacks,
so and vice versa. It goes both ways.
Speaker 3 (41:35):
But you know it.
Speaker 8 (41:37):
I know this.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
I gave everything.
Speaker 11 (41:38):
I gott and I put up. I did some good stuff.
I just wish I would have won a little more.
That's my biggest regret. Obviously. I would have loved to
have gotten a ring. And that's where those guys, you know,
someone like Travis and Gronk and the rest of them,
they they got they got jewelry. They get to wear
big old diamond rings and they can always show them
to me. And I'm happy for him. But uh, yeah,
I wish I had one. I wish I had one.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
Ever, I have a good losch uh.
Speaker 11 (42:03):
I mean, if you psychologically want to spin it that way, Yeah,
you can have a good lot for sure, especially early
in the season.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
Early in the season, Hey, we played well. We just
went came up against them, like the Jets.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
The Jets against the Steelers played pretty well, justin fields
played pretty well. But you they lost the game.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
Now that's yeah, I.
Speaker 11 (42:19):
Think it's earlier in the season. It's it's a it's
a teaching lesson. Of course, you always want to win,
though there's there's no doubt about it.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
You played the game. As Herman Edwards Jets quote, he
played a game to win.
Speaker 11 (42:31):
So if if you can't, if you don't come out
on top, you always got have that bad taste in
your mouth.
Speaker 3 (42:36):
But you can always teach from it.
Speaker 11 (42:37):
Early in the season. At the end of the season
doesn't matter. We don't care what happened. We got to
get it done. We're trying to get to the playoffs,
so we're trying to win the playoff game.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
Who was the tight end? Who changed the position?
Speaker 11 (42:48):
I think Kellen Winslow. Okay, uh senior uh more my
my genre. I think uh, I would go with Shannon
and and and Ben Coates a little bit. I think
he doesn't get enough credit. I remember he had a
one hundred catches one year at least somebody that I
looked at, it was like, Okay, those guys are receiving
tight tight ends. But obviously I've always wanted to do both.
(43:11):
But yeah, those those guys, what.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
Did you keep from when you played with the Miami
Heat in the Summer League? What was that two thousand
and two?
Speaker 3 (43:19):
Yeah? Two?
Speaker 5 (43:20):
What?
Speaker 11 (43:20):
Uh? I always look at that experience. By the way
I saw, I ran understand Van Gundy, the coach, he
was well. Pat pat Riley was our coach at the
beginning and then stand took over for the rest of
the summer. And I was always mad at him because
my first game I had uh, I had eleven rebounds played,
my guy didn't score and I only have two points
(43:42):
though I was one for seven, And I asked Stan, Uh,
I was mad at him because he never he hardly
played me after that, which I didn't understand. And uh
so I ran into him this summer and he said, well,
tome what he goes. Just understand there was people higher
up than me that might have made phone calls to
make sure that you didn't have didn't get to play
(44:03):
that much. And so I got a feeling it was
probably our general manager Karl Peterson back then, who was
in a contract dispield.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
That was the reason I went play, And so I
think he probably was like, hey, don't don't he you
know he's gonna play football.
Speaker 5 (44:17):
So uh.
Speaker 11 (44:18):
But I but take away pat watching pat Riley coach
and Stand coach. Uh, the four hour practices that we
had under pat Riley, that it was incredible. I never
ever experienced anything like that, A four hour practice straight
under Pat Riley, which I'm from l A too, growing
growing up watching Showtime and magic and worthy and and
(44:39):
that everything at the at the Forum.
Speaker 3 (44:41):
To have pat Riley coach, that was a pretty cool thing,
pretty cool experience.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
Who would you play against in the Summer League? Uh?
Speaker 3 (44:48):
Shoot, I can't remember my team.
Speaker 11 (44:50):
I think we had one of the best Summer League
teams that we had Karan Butler, uh Elite, Jay Elite,
James James yep Rausul Butler, God, rest of soul, rest
in peace.
Speaker 3 (45:03):
Uh Malik Allen. I believe it was we had. We
were undefeated, we didn't even lose. So played with some
good guys and great coaches.
Speaker 11 (45:10):
After Smolstra was on the coaching staff, Bob mcagee was
on that coaching staff, Van coach, Van Gunday, pat Riley.
Speaker 3 (45:17):
It was. It was one of the best things I
ever did.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
Eleven rebounds for a guy who's six five, that's pretty good.
Speaker 3 (45:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (45:24):
I could play in the league, now, Dan, I could
have played. I got Okay, how about that? You want
to know what I got answered? I got answered. People say,
you think you could have played in the NBA.
Speaker 3 (45:31):
I'm like, after that experience, absolutely that I could have played.
Speaker 11 (45:34):
I wouldn't have started, probably, but because I would have
went from one, one for seven. I would have made
that three or four for seven, and I still would
have got those rebounds. So I think I could have
been in that. I would have worked myself to my
jump shot would have been a little bit better.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
Could you have been like a Draymond Green? Uh?
Speaker 11 (45:52):
I don't know about good him talking about a Hall
of Fame player, but uh, but yeah, I think I
could have played.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
There's no doubt about it.
Speaker 11 (45:57):
I know that I could have went in the league
and and got you eight to ten rebounds a game
and got you eight to ten points a game.
Speaker 3 (46:05):
I have no doubt. My mind called me crazy. I
could have done that.
Speaker 2 (46:10):
Could be making fifty million dollars a year in today's
NBA eight with those numbers.
Speaker 11 (46:15):
No shit, Hey, not underpaid like these damn tight ends.
They don't pay these tight ends. No, you start beating
that drum. They're underpaid. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
What did you get the bezos for their wedding gift?
Speaker 11 (46:32):
My?
Speaker 2 (46:32):
Uh my?
Speaker 11 (46:35):
They didn't want anything, my presence, that's what they said. Okay,
it was just to show up and bring a positive attitude.
That's the gift that you want to want to bring.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
So wait, you didn't have to. They weren't registered anywhere nobody,
nobody brought any gift. They had to be registered on Amazon.
Speaker 3 (46:52):
Give me an idea, what would you have gotten them?
Speaker 2 (46:57):
He does kind of have everything. Maybe maybe just like
an autograph picture of you.
Speaker 3 (47:06):
I don't think they would have wanted that. I would
have went bottom drawer.
Speaker 2 (47:14):
Yeah, great to talk to you.
Speaker 3 (47:17):
Yeah, that's always hope.
Speaker 2 (47:18):
You're having fun. You look good, look like you could
take a couple of snaps.
Speaker 3 (47:23):
Yeah, I could go five yard turn around? Okay, good down?
Yeah I could do that still.
Speaker 2 (47:28):
I mean there's some teams that could do that. That's
what Kelsey's doing. Now, are you going to go to
the wedding? You think you'll get invited to that wedding too?
Speaker 3 (47:39):
Maybe? Maybe?
Speaker 11 (47:40):
I think that'd be a good one. That'd be a
fun one. I gotta feel they're gonna keep that one
kind of small.
Speaker 2 (47:45):
Oh okay, that's one of those. You can see Tony
Thursday Night Football. It'll be on the eleventh. It'll be
the Commanders and the Packers from Lambeau. Thank you, ton
great to see you again. Man as always, Dan, Thanks
have you. Tony Gonzales
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