September 10, 2025 • 48 mins
DP reacts to the latest AP Poll college football rankings. Former NFL QB David Carr explains why veteran QBs crave ownership of the offense and says Miami's issues are more schematic as opposed to just Tua-related. Former NFL QB Mark Sanchez gives a deep dive on Caleb Williams' week 1 performance and continues to be impressed by Justin Herbert's growth.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
The new top twenty five came out Ohio State, Penn State, LSU, Oregon, Miami,
Georgia in there. Can we check and see where South
Florida is, because when I mentioned this this morning, that
is South Florida in the top ten. The looks that
I got back from everybody was like, what, yes, Marvin.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
South Florida.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
In two different polls, they are twenty third in one poll,
in ranked number eighteenth in another.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
What is wrong with these voters? You beat Boise State
and beat Florida. Is that the problem?
Speaker 5 (00:40):
My bulls?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
They got it wrong, my bull Yes, my South Florida bulls.
By the way, I know that you think I lead
this great life, and sometimes I do. Last night I
was watching the BYU Stanford re air Rear. Yeah, yeah,
BYU's got a quarterback is numbers forty seven, and I go,
(01:01):
all right, Andrew Luck on the sidelines and this kid's
I think a true freshman, And it looked Okay, look,
you know, it's fun. It's interesting to see a quarterback.
We're number forty seven. Yes, Paul, I'm going to back
you on this.
Speaker 6 (01:16):
You're not desperate and alone watching football. You are watching
football because you can't watch all the games on Saturdays
and ever years are kind of fun to learn about teams. Yeah,
and especially for if you're a voter or a Heisman voter,
you should be well versed.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
I think this guy is his first name is Bear Awesome. Yeah,
but number forty seven?
Speaker 7 (01:33):
Yes, Ton, But.
Speaker 8 (01:34):
Isn't there something to be said about taking one or
two days off, especially these next few months. We've got
to pace ourselves. If you're gonna use Tuesday under a
Wednesday to rewatch games or watch games that you happen
to miss, then you're gonna have no break. Ever, it's
going to be seven days a week. And as much
as we love sports, sometimes you need a little family
time or take a nap or something.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
This is This is called homework. It's called preparation.
Speaker 9 (01:55):
We're going to talk a lot of BYU football today.
Speaker 8 (01:57):
I didn't see it.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
I just you know, maybe we talked Andrew Luck and
Stanford and they didn't look good. So maybe Frank Reich
isn't the head coach there next year. Maybe Andrew Lucky is.
I don't know, Tod.
Speaker 9 (02:10):
Those are valid topics.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Thank you each other.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Yes, yeah, but I was just you know, going through
and all of a sudden, I go, okay, I'm gonna
watch a little bit of b YU. There nothing wrong
with that, Todd. You can't watch Ohio State every weekend.
Speaker 9 (02:23):
I know.
Speaker 8 (02:24):
I was just concerned for you to have a little break,
you know, the time with the wife or whatever. You know,
a day or two where you're like, no football because
the other five days we're going to be swimming in Well.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Thank you, thank you, thank you for worrying about my
social life at home.
Speaker 9 (02:36):
Got for a night's dinner, you know, Light a candle,
a little intimacy or whatever. Don't worry about the.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
By you re aired.
Speaker 9 (02:41):
Light a candle, set the mood, dim the lights, whatever
you guys do.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
It's not my business.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Maybe I was setting the mood with BYU against.
Speaker 8 (02:51):
By I'm about to try that sometime we are of
a college football game, see what I get.
Speaker 9 (02:56):
But I'm doing some fars of work.
Speaker 6 (03:00):
Yeah, fall, but the South Florida thing is kind of
semi real. If they can beat Miami this weekend, they
become the lovable team, like you know, Arizona State last year,
SMU last year.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Or Boise State that's right.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
They could be a top ten team if they beat
Miami their top ten team?
Speaker 5 (03:14):
Is that?
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Okay everybody? Okay, I'm in early on that.
Speaker 6 (03:17):
They won't get top ten. They won't crack the top
ten by it if they beat Miami. They I'm not
saying they shouldn't. I'm saying they won't. They people like
to tiptoe for a lovable new team to be the
top ten. If they beat Miami, they're looking at a
nice fourteen spot and that's fantastic in September.
Speaker 10 (03:35):
Okay, yeah, yeah, agree, because we don't even know if
Miami is real.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Yeah, they beat Notre Dame.
Speaker 10 (03:42):
Well, they don't know that Notre Dame is real.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Yeah, that's true. They're ranked higher than South Florida and
they haven't won a game yet. These poles are always weird.
That's why you know that first pole that should come
out should come out in October because we and we
do this all the time the preseason where we rank
some in North Carolina was the number one team in
America preseason for basketball. They didn't make the tournament. Okay,
(04:09):
North Carolina, they didn't play well, but all the voters
who put North Carolina number one didn't do well either.
It's I don't know, let's just put the blue bloods
up there, and then all of a sudden they don't
perform as well as they shouldn't.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Then we go, oh, man, what happened to you guys?
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Guys, are the ones who ranked us higher than we
probably should have been, Yes, Todd, it proves the same.
Speaker 9 (04:29):
You don't want to end up on the poll. There
you go. I thought that was a great line. I'm
really disappointed. I can get a reaction.
Speaker 8 (04:36):
It's it's it's like a it's like a jinx to
be on the pole.
Speaker 9 (04:40):
You don't want to be on the poll. Youn't want
your kids on the pole. You don't want to be.
Speaker 7 (04:42):
On the poll.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
You want to be on the poll if you're a team.
Speaker 8 (04:47):
Yeah, but if they if they overrank you and then
all of a sudden, like you just said, they're not
performing well, they made us the number six team in
the country and we lost our first two games.
Speaker 9 (04:53):
You don't want to end up on the poll in
the beginning. You don't want to be on the poll. Okay,
pol Or you said, I s it's just not funny.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
I need you to slow down. Okay, I need you.
I'm being honest.
Speaker 9 (05:06):
I think I may have taken the wrong medication.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Now I'm gonna blame Paulie for having eye surgery yesterday.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
I heard it was wild.
Speaker 9 (05:12):
Yes, it was his fault because I got a little loose.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
You got loose, and you're still loose.
Speaker 9 (05:18):
And I've got a calm down.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
And then he's, you know, singing Beatles songs right in
my face because he's mocking me.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
He's trolling me.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Got the Beatles sweatshirt he's talking about when he was
in high school driving around trying to pick up girls.
Speaker 9 (05:30):
It wasn't just the singing.
Speaker 8 (05:30):
I took my finger and I kind of pointed in
your eye and I made like a little concentric circles
in your face.
Speaker 9 (05:34):
You didn't like the finger in the seat.
Speaker 10 (05:36):
There are days that I wonder if Todd's medication is balanced.
Speaker 7 (05:40):
Today is one of those days, and it's not.
Speaker 10 (05:42):
The telltale sign is whenever Todd is talking and he's
going really fast, but he ends up flying, his words
are flying, and then what happens.
Speaker 7 (05:52):
Is he.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
Runs out of air.
Speaker 10 (05:56):
Eddie's laughing while doing that. That to when you know, like,
oh boy, this dude is really one right now, He's like.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
B And it wasn't just me who said something to you.
Marvin wanted to know if you were on drugs and
Setan questioned what was going on.
Speaker 9 (06:12):
It's a little frightening for.
Speaker 8 (06:13):
Me too, because sometimes I think I'm gonna bite my
tongue off or something like that when it's not going
like really fast.
Speaker 9 (06:17):
But I got to settle down a little bit, just
a long show minutes.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Yes, yes, I want you to pace yourself. Okay.
Speaker 8 (06:24):
I've been getting a lot of extra sleep little and
wearing that the seatpap thing you know for the sleep
app near or the air is springing your up your
nose and your mouth to make sure you don't die
in your sleep.
Speaker 9 (06:33):
It's a I think that's helped.
Speaker 10 (06:34):
I got overly oxygenated.
Speaker 8 (06:36):
I think I think got it because all I took
was like a centrum silver.
Speaker 9 (06:40):
And like a calcium pill. I wouldn't do this to.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Me, Yes, Marvin, well, maybe he should take a Flintstone's
kids vitaimin next time.
Speaker 10 (06:46):
It was silver part of the thing.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Yeah, centrum silver for those of us fifty and above.
Oh okay, center like they.
Speaker 8 (06:52):
Put a couple extra things in there for extra zinc
and copper in your bloodstream or whatever it is.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Seed wants the whole question today.
Speaker 10 (06:58):
So glad you asked, where should Florida be ranked?
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Top ten?
Speaker 10 (07:01):
Eleven, twenty one plus?
Speaker 5 (07:03):
Who saw that coming?
Speaker 7 (07:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Are there bowls in South Florida?
Speaker 6 (07:08):
It's a hotbed of livestock.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
The only bowl in South Florida is Michael Jordan. Okay,
all right, giving that to you, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 9 (07:18):
I'm not going to give you.
Speaker 10 (07:19):
That one, right, Todd at a boy kid, all right, Todd, you.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Mess with the bull and you get these Okay, Yeah,
that's right, that's right.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
Okay.
Speaker 9 (07:34):
I'm not just going to follow the group. I have
my own independent opinion.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Do we do? We have?
Speaker 5 (07:39):
What? Marvin?
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Sorry, you were talking about South Florida? Like they'd beat
Urban Myers Florida Gators. They beat Billy naviy Ors Florida Gators.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
I'd like the underdog. I like the little guy.
Speaker 9 (07:51):
Oh so do I would you say?
Speaker 7 (07:52):
Top ten?
Speaker 5 (07:52):
Me?
Speaker 9 (07:52):
And Seton looked at you like top ten in Florida?
Speaker 7 (07:56):
Sure?
Speaker 10 (07:57):
I mean I'm not exactly the gatekeeper of all college
football polls, but that seems like a stretch this early and.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Okay, all right, all right.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
I think because they're they're called South Florida that hurts them.
Now it's like, where is it South Florida. Yeah, so
it's down, it's down south bottom part Yeah, yes.
Speaker 6 (08:19):
Yes, directional schools have an upward track. So like last year,
Northern Illinois takes down Notre Dame, everyone's into Northern Illinois.
It was a September game. It was a big, big
deal for Northern Illinois. I think they lost the next weekend,
so like they didn't even last a week.
Speaker 5 (08:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (08:33):
But meanwhile though, then interesting part of that is that
if Florida was actually two states and there was in
North Florida and South Florida sort of like the Carolinas,
they would be fine. South Carolina. They don't get called
the directional school because that's state school is South Carolina.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
That's a good, good call, you know.
Speaker 10 (08:49):
But if there was South Florida as a state and
North Florida as a state, nobody would judge South Florida
poorly for that.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Yeah, yes, Marton, you know what, I'm against South Florida
already because they play in Tampa.
Speaker 10 (09:01):
Okay, that's not south south central?
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Is it mid mid mid Florida mid mid middle Florida.
Speaker 10 (09:09):
You just call the mid mid Florida.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Dang, I'm here to praise the bulls. You're trying to
bury him.
Speaker 10 (09:19):
That is kind of mid Florida, isn't it. What's the
cut off line is Orlando?
Speaker 6 (09:23):
The line Orlando is Central Florida.
Speaker 10 (09:28):
Yes, the Dixon Dixon line is uh.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
And then Tampa is so mid mid Florida, Tampa Tampa.
Speaker 6 (09:37):
It's kind of a standalone, isn't it?
Speaker 10 (09:39):
Sort of a central Florida situation.
Speaker 7 (09:41):
Really, would they.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Be better off at the University of Tampa. Isn't there
a University of Tampa anyway?
Speaker 5 (09:47):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (09:48):
But I think South Florida that confuses.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
People a little bit, like, uh, where are you?
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Oh?
Speaker 10 (09:53):
And not Miami.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
You're in Tallahassee near Tallahassee. Yeah, Okay, so South Florida.
What's the point spread for South Florida and Miami. Now
I am really invested in this game. Now, I am
Game of the Week by far. I'm hoping is it
on the CW.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Of course it is. The big games are on the
c W.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
I hope I get my South Florida jersey in time
to wear it by Friday.
Speaker 6 (10:21):
Celebrity fans. Yeah, South Florida.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
How many celebrity fans? Sorry? Who are the celebrities at
South Florida? Okay? Any other pole questions? Aside from that
one seaton, there's.
Speaker 10 (10:31):
Going to be about thirteen more South Florida ones. I
can tell you, Okay, the South Florida Bulls they are
a university as well, it's not a college.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Okay.
Speaker 10 (10:40):
I think that's pretty good. Okay, I'm doing a deep
dive on South Florida right now.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Heck, let me get to Christopher in Colorado Springs. Hey, Chris, Hey, Daran.
Speaker 11 (10:54):
Hey guys, hey five six fifty good, totally fulfilling a
life moment here. Let me take a little breath. Thanks guys.
So it's got to let you know, you guys are
my only football friend. It's the most amazing thing we
(11:16):
can up listening to my fellas. You make my day
go by. It's great. So, Dan, let me tell you
about you once talked about how you control the music
at your dinner table. Yeah, so you know, we did
that for a long time where the wife and I
would just choose songs. But then you got to where
(11:36):
we were just playing the same songs over and over
and over again, you know, same bands. So what I
started last August was we started with the A's and
we picked an A band and every night we pick
a different A band and we listen to all the
music we can listen to, and it has spread our
music knowledge considerably.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Well, I'm happy for you and thank you for calling in, Christopher.
But I control the music and I'll sprinkle in, you know,
maybe something random and uh, you know, things go well,
you know, it goes, it sets the mood, you know, Yes, Marmon,
(12:17):
what's your go to at the dinner table?
Speaker 3 (12:20):
I just usually on Spotify and I'll do it.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Could be usually it's a band like Beach Boys Radio
and then you get a playlist of a lot of
different things.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Or yes, time my song.
Speaker 9 (12:32):
Is past the Chicken to the left bun tidy Tago book.
Is that not our audience? Is that not our generation?
Past the duchy?
Speaker 3 (12:40):
No, no, I got no, I got you.
Speaker 9 (12:42):
I believe it's something.
Speaker 10 (12:43):
About it past the chicken. It's like, has it down
the table because we're eating dinner?
Speaker 9 (12:47):
Thank you?
Speaker 10 (12:48):
Yeah, okay, how about we take a break. I might
have gone over some people's heads, but it shouldn't.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Have PAULI, do you wish you had eye surgery a second? Yeah, yeah,
I wish ear surgery.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
Might be more helpful.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
That's just so mean.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
I don't know. There were some lines yesterday off off
air that were directed towards Paul, right, tod.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
I can't recall it, if anything that was done in
jess after all, So there were there were.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
By the way, South Florida is getting seventeen and a half,
they are ripe.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
For an upset South Florida against the U.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
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Speaker 2 (14:23):
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school to offer you a scholarship?
Speaker 7 (14:40):
Ucla and Washington?
Speaker 13 (14:41):
But Pat Hill was not going to have that, Dan,
you know he was gonna He rolled into my house
fresh off the airplane in Cleveland as the offensive line assistant,
and he had a taped up duffel bag, sat down
in my living room and just wouldn't leave.
Speaker 7 (14:54):
I was like, Pat, we gotta get on a flight
tomorrow to go to Washington. Maybe you said.
Speaker 13 (14:57):
He's like, no, you're gonna pay quarterback for me. We're
going to handle the trenches. And it was just so
unique and he's he's my favorite. I saw him two
days ago with Derek and we went over and just
kind of spent some time with him.
Speaker 7 (15:07):
But he's still out there.
Speaker 13 (15:09):
He's still at Fresno State holding the cards for the
practice squad, like he literally is running the scout team
defense to get those guys ready.
Speaker 7 (15:16):
So love his heart. Man, he's awesome.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
More important to have a better relationship with your head
coach or your offensive coordinator.
Speaker 7 (15:24):
Offensive coordinator, hands down, he's the guy that he's in
your ear.
Speaker 13 (15:27):
The head coach. You know, if you have a defensive
minded head coach, you rarely talked to him. I remember
I talked to Don Capers in Houston right before the game,
like about an hour hour and a half before the game,
in his office and it was like, oh, hey, it's
good to see you, Like what's the plan today?
Speaker 7 (15:41):
And it's really unique. But the offense priinter you talk
to you at every way.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
So your debut, you didn't talk to your head coach
until an hour before the game, not.
Speaker 13 (15:51):
Like a formal meeting or nothing really exs knows wise.
He just kind of brought me in his office like
this is cool. It's like being in the principal's office
a little bit.
Speaker 7 (15:57):
How are we going to do this thing? But it
worked out all right.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
But that coordinator you're tied to and we find well,
you can look at track records with quarterbacks and go
how many offensive coordinators have they burned through or head
coaches there, And sometimes we don't factor that in when
somebody's successful or they're not. But we should factor that
in a lot more than we do.
Speaker 7 (16:18):
Yeah. Absolutely, shit.
Speaker 13 (16:19):
I mean I think that it's just so difficult because
you invest all of your time and energy into learning
this system and like ingraining it into your vocabulary. I
mean so much so that my wife will tell you
I would literally like say audibles in my sleep, and
I would just bark out these caides and say it's
like you have to internalize it. And then it's like, Okay,
(16:40):
well he's not good enough, let's get another one. And hey,
you got to memorize all these calls. I've gotten to
the line of scrimmers before and called the wrong audibles
from the previous offense. I did it with I did
it in New York, so they've just come off with
Super Bowl. I landed it with the Giants. I go
up to the line of scrimmage. I know the play
I want to get two weeks side inside zone run
and I checked to the wrong play and Shan O'Hara
turns around, looks at me. He's like, what, like, literally
(17:03):
mid play. I got it right, You figured it out
for me. Having a great sinner's always a good backup plan.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
But is there like common verbiage though for all quarterbacks
that you know, maybe a different color or a number
or whatever, but it always sort of the same.
Speaker 7 (17:18):
All the plays are the same, like we just call
him something different.
Speaker 13 (17:21):
So what you have to do is I actually heard
a great Keenan McCardell or Keenan Allen was talking about
this before the broadcast of the Day Chargers Chiefs and
he's like, honestly, it's the same plays. I just have
to kind of memorize what words they're using. And so
it's all the same stuff. And it's a copycat league.
You see, like Ben Johnson's had success the last couple
of years, Well everybody just rips his stuff. He's call
it something else, like, well you just stole his copyright
(17:43):
infringement right here. But it's all the same stuff. You
just got to figure out what the new terms are.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Give me the team that stood out either good or
bad from week one.
Speaker 13 (17:51):
Well, Miami was obviously it was on the same field
as the team that actually stood out as good. So
it's like you think Miami's going to go in there
with Tyreek and Okay, there's no captains up there, and
he maybe he's not the leader.
Speaker 7 (18:01):
He'll still make some plays.
Speaker 13 (18:02):
But like the Indy, you know, Daniel Jones is the
guy that we ran out of town in New York.
He's not good enough to play there, and so he
lands in Indy and he's he's surrounded by a good cast. Obviously,
Schematically had some good answers. He made some great checks
to the line of scrimmage. By the way I mean
he was. He was really on it. It was funny
because he looked like Peyton, you know, because you get
in the same uniform, you're in that building. You start
to say, weok he's got the same mannerisms. It's it's
(18:24):
really unique. So I'm gonna study and follow Indy the
rest of the year. But Miami was kind of disappointing.
But they'll bounce back. They'll be okay too. It didn't
play as bad as people thought. You that they have
some schematic issues like they were, they were bringing extra
pressures off the edges. They really hit him with some
some timely blitzes that that wasn't fortunate for Miami.
Speaker 7 (18:41):
That was that was unique.
Speaker 13 (18:42):
You know, I think that when you look around, like
the quarterbacks that moved into different scenarios, Like you talk
about Russ, Like Russ was on a playoff team last year.
He lands in New York and now, oh he can't
play anymore. Well, you know, Daniel Jones left New York
and now he all of a sudden can play. So
it's like, are we talking about the scenario, are we
talking about the you know, the rounding components, or are
we talking about specific players. So I think that's gonna
(19:04):
be the fun part as we go forward, is like,
these guys are in good situations, they're gonna play well.
These guys are in bad situations, they're not gonna play well.
Like is Jackson Dart going in in New York? Like
I don't necessarily think Jackson Dart's gonna solve your problems
that you have in New York.
Speaker 7 (19:15):
So it'll be fun to watch it.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
He's David Carr, NFL Network analyst. You can see him
on the NFL Game Day Final this Sunday at eleven
thirty am Eastern on NFL Network. When Peyton changed the game,
calling plays at the line of scrimmage, was there pressure
on other quarterbacks and offensive coordinators like we have to
do the same thing.
Speaker 7 (19:37):
We tried to mimic it, like there was even a
scenario we played the Rams.
Speaker 13 (19:41):
So I feel like I'm responsible for the birth of
Ryan Fitzpatrick and the Fits magic because so we're playing
the Rams at home in Houston. My offensive coordinator decides, Hey,
we're gonna let you go the line of scrimmage and
call your own place. I'm like, fantastic, that's great, We're.
Speaker 7 (19:53):
Gonna get one formation. So we played fast.
Speaker 13 (19:56):
I mean, I didn't have a ton of them Peyton has,
I mean, it's endless his catalog that he can get to.
I had like seven plays, right, So we ran our
seven plays. We get up, we get up twenty one,
We're up like we're winning. And then we get to
the halftime and the offensive cornery comes in and he says, hey,
that was great, you know, but what we're gonna do
now is we're gonna establish the run. So he takes
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the play sheet from me. So now he goes into
his We're gonna we're gonna hang onto the ball, We're
gonna keep it away from here comes the points, right,
Ryan Fitzpatrick blasts his way all the way back. They
end up beating us on the last play of the
game because we just got he got taken away.
Speaker 7 (20:30):
But it was so fun, it was so freeing.
Speaker 13 (20:32):
Like as a quarterback, I just I loved having that
ability and that freedom, and you end up taking an ownership.
It's like if you're teaching, if you're teaching someone something
like you just automatically you learn it better yourself. And
I think that that's the fun part about that. And
that's kind of what I miss, honestly about the current
quarterback state is there's not a lot of those guys
doing that anymore. There are some, and like, that's why
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I got so excited about Daniel Jones because he's up
there making checks, moving guys around. He has that ability
he has. Dak was doing that the other day and
then it win. But Dak's got full ownership. If that
was in Oxnard watching them practice. He's gonna play better
this year. See he's gonna catch the ball. Obviously he
might actually turn out to be a good receiver. But
there's those types of players. I still think you have
to be able to do that because you look at
Josh Allen, you look as great as Josh is love
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Josh at Lamar at some point like why haven't they
been able to get over the hump? It's because of that.
It's because of that ownership at the line of scrimmage
in those crucial situations. That's why Pat Mahomes is still
the guy. Like you can say what you want about him,
maybe put him down the list four or five, but
when it comes down to it, his notes are meticulous.
Speaker 7 (21:32):
He's got a great play caller.
Speaker 13 (21:33):
They know the answers to the test, they know the
problems that you're going to bring them, and they have
answers for him. And I think that there's still that
element that you have to have that component and Brady.
If Brady was here, he'd be telling you like that's
all that matters. I still think that there's a physicality
about it. Like you see, you know, Lamar's back there
running down John Hussey where now the referee is in
a full sprint trying to get away from him. Lamar
ends up making thirty yards. There's the element of that
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that you have to have to play quarterback in this
league still, but you have to be able to win
and diagnose problems from the pocket and solve them.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
That's why when we get quarterback rankings, I say, well
that's regular season, because if we if we have postseason rankings,
the rankings are completely different. You have Mahomes and Jaylen Morres, right,
that's right.
Speaker 13 (22:13):
I couldn't agree more that one to exactly right, they're one,
two and And that's exactly for that reason that we
laid out, and we're like, well, what's the difference. That
is the difference because you get guys like Steve Spagnola.
You get these defensive coordinators that know your protection schem
better than you, honestly, and I've talked to some of
these quarterbacks and I love them.
Speaker 7 (22:28):
They'll go nameless.
Speaker 13 (22:29):
They don't know their protection schemes as well as some
of these defensive coordinators that are facing them. They know
how to bring the four week I mean, that's the
reason that Jared Goff is no longer in LA because
that four week pressure that they didn't have an answer for.
They had to find a guy that could kind of
cover that up, and it was Matt Stafford.
Speaker 7 (22:44):
So there's there's Well when.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Stafford doing differently than Golf didn't recognize it, well.
Speaker 13 (22:51):
They didn't really, they didn't really ask him to in
some systems, and this is what happened to Miami the
other day. So two is getting hit by these four
week pressures, these extra safety to fit that they are
unaccounted for. And so in those systems you use you know,
type formations, use shifts, motions, the speed of Tyreek kill
and that little quick motion that work. Everyone's calling illegal,
like you use that stuff to kind of cover that
stuff up.
Speaker 7 (23:12):
But when it comes down to it, those.
Speaker 13 (23:14):
Good coordinators are going to time it up right where
they know, Like Vic Fangio knows.
Speaker 7 (23:18):
I was with him in Houston.
Speaker 13 (23:19):
He believes that he can guess the offense is play
based on the personnel group in the down and distance,
and he's right a lot of times. So they won
the Super Bowl because those guys understand how to attack structure,
how to attack quarterbacks. And it's just you got to
have that. You got to have that ability to pick
that up. And Stafford. What Stafford does, honestly is he's
just so good at at defeating at buying time.
Speaker 7 (23:39):
They used to tell us in the quarterback room. You
bring that extra pressure.
Speaker 13 (23:42):
Hey guys buy time, Like hey, hold on, I don't
have time to buy with what what credit am I
using to buy this time?
Speaker 7 (23:48):
I don't have it, man, I'm not that guy.
Speaker 13 (23:50):
So but Stafford can just kind of make it physically,
so he kind of covers up for a lot of
that stuff.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
We hear a lot of this.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Uh, when you know these guys come out of college
that in college you can have four seconds and you
could get out of trouble and you could hold onto
the ball and you can try to be a hero.
You can't do that in the NFL. But I'm curious
about teaching getting the ball out, teaching stepping up in
the pocket as opposed to rolling out away from pressure.
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Is it teachable to get the ball out as quickly
as possible, to stay in the pocket, all those things
that you're taught you have.
Speaker 13 (24:22):
So what happens is, and I've been in there, unfortunately,
when it's falling apart and guys are falling, you're getting pressure,
and it's just like, well, the only the only positive
play we had when I was in Houston at times
was me scrambling to the right and find Corey Bradford
after the play had already started, right, So I would
just literally tell we get in the red zone, like Corey.
Speaker 7 (24:38):
If I don't throw it to you right away, just
find me, work with me on the back end line.
Speaker 13 (24:42):
And I literally threw like five or six touchdowns my
second year just doing that because we couldn't hold up inside.
Speaker 7 (24:47):
So that's the problem is because it's just human nature.
It's default for some of these guys to say, I
can just scramble out, and I hate it. I did
it a hundred thousand times as a quarterback.
Speaker 13 (24:56):
But the scramble out to the right throwaway or just
trying to find like it bothers me so much. I
have so much respect for the quarterbacks that can climb
and step up in the pocket and trust their guys.
So what you have to do is you have to
really lock in to your schematics. You have to really
trust your offensive coordinators. So you can tell the guys
that trust their ocs, that trust their play callers they
climb up in the pocket, I trust that that fifth
guy is gonna be there, or that for that checkdown
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is going to be there. The brock Purties finding Christian McCaffrey,
like Dak even did it the other day climbing up
in the pocket, like he just trusts that it's gonna
We're gonna make it work.
Speaker 7 (25:26):
Joe Brow does that at time. Joe Burrow took some
shots the other day.
Speaker 13 (25:28):
Yeah, I mean they were he was getting wrecked, but
he trustsed, he knows, he knows.
Speaker 7 (25:32):
Where his guys are. So it really comes down.
Speaker 13 (25:34):
To really digging into what you're doing, your belief in
your play caller, in the fact he's gonna put you
in a good position.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Can you put us in the in that situation where
you're stepping up in the pocket and there's chaos around you.
Speaker 7 (25:46):
There's no there's no words that can describe it.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Man.
Speaker 13 (25:48):
It's just like you have to have such a faith
that your your guys are gonna win down the field,
that your scheme is right for the play that you have.
And that's why veteran quarterbacks so much want ownership of
the offense and kind of like we were talking about earlier,
where I want to I want to call the play
because I know that I know where the answer is
and if I get in trouble, I know I can
get out of it. The most, Like the thing that
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bothers you the most is when you have a protection
but you go to step up and you know you
don't have a winner. You know, you don't have guys
that are going to win, especially on the based on
the coverage that you have. And it's it's really hard
because then then you go back into those bad habits
of like let me just create, let me just try
and make a play, and now you're just out there.
Speaker 7 (26:26):
You're not You're not going to consistently win.
Speaker 13 (26:28):
That's why, like Brady was always great because he would,
he would, and even Manning, they know where they're going
before the ball.
Speaker 7 (26:33):
Like you talk about like he's staring down or zero.
Speaker 13 (26:35):
Absolutely, he's staring to the exact spot on the field
that he's going to throw this football, and he's going
to do in less than two seconds. Good luck getting
to him. So if you can get to that point
in your offense, then you got to figure it out.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
But Brady could still play today.
Speaker 7 (26:47):
Absolutely absolutely, he could still play. Peyton could still play.
Speaker 13 (26:50):
I mean if you could throw at twenty yards, I
don't know if his neck would let him, but I mean, yeah,
you it's you get to a point where if you
can just keep the physical ability. That's why it was
so interesting talking to Flacco. I went out to Leland,
saw him like, well, how do you feel, because that's
what quarterbacks want to ask the veteran guys, like do
you feel like you can go out there and do
it physically? Because mentally, you know, the more reps you get,
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there isn't a defense on earth that these guys can
invent that you haven't seen and that you don't have
an answer for. So it's just keeping that physical ability
on par with your mental game.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Were you rooting for Caleb Williams to break your sack record?
Speaker 7 (27:23):
That's tough, man. I don't look.
Speaker 13 (27:25):
I know how bad I felt at that moment, and
I didn't want because I was like contemplating, do I
want to play football anymore?
Speaker 7 (27:30):
Like this is kind of hard.
Speaker 13 (27:31):
I've played every sport like I feel like you can
figure out eventually, Like you've played golf, like you're gonna
figure it out, Like you give me enough time, I'll
find a way to win. But it was hard, man, like,
because that's something that's so out of your control. So
for me, like when I'm watching him, I kind of
didn't want him to honestly, Like, if I'm being honest,
I didn't want him to break the records. I don't
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want anybody have to go through because he might not
play football anymore, like he might not.
Speaker 7 (27:54):
Want to do it.
Speaker 13 (27:55):
It's so hard to go through all the stuff we've
talked about ownership of the offense, like being in the
right place at the right time, doing all the all
the right things.
Speaker 7 (28:03):
And then you do everything right. That's what I was.
Speaker 13 (28:06):
That's why I struggled so much with is Like I
remember telling my wife one night, I was like, I
don't I don't know physically or mentally what else to do. Like,
I just don't. I don't know what else to do.
And so when you get to that point, it's that's
a tough Someone's got to bring you back, you know,
because and it's it's got to be something outside of yourself.
Speaker 7 (28:21):
So fortunately for me, I had some great people around
me and some good coaches.
Speaker 13 (28:24):
Eventually, and I got to New York and I found
out football was easy.
Speaker 7 (28:27):
So I mean, that was that was my favorite part.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Seventy six sacks in We'll see so you're first and
third on the.
Speaker 7 (28:34):
Oh, yeah, don't worry.
Speaker 13 (28:35):
We yeah, we went seventy six and then we we
kind of skipped a year, had a good year, had
I think fifty and then we said, you know, we're
gonna go back up there where we got to get.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Our numbers up where we're He went from seventy six
and then just back up to sixty eight.
Speaker 7 (28:47):
Yeah, that's right, that's right. I feel great. New hip.
Speaker 13 (28:49):
I got brand new hip. Titanum feels great. It's the
best joint that I have in my body. Works better
than all the other ones. It's fantastic.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
We got your brother on tomorrow.
Speaker 7 (28:59):
He's gonna be great.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
Man.
Speaker 13 (29:00):
He's so fun. He did that pregame show, Yeah, Chargers
Chiefs the other day. He did great. He just loves
talking football. He loves talking football. So we're actually doing
a show Homegrown Network. We just launched our second show.
It's gonna be today, and we're just talking about quarterbacks,
like all the stuff that we're talking about. It's so
fun to be able to talk about it with him
because I've done it my whole life with him. But
he's right in it, like you talk about like the
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schematics and what these guys are doing and all the
different offenses. He's had everybody like you talk about a
team like, he's had that guy as a coordinator, so
he knows the intricacies I think I do, but then
ill I even find myself and like, hey, what are
they actually doing right here? And he'll just literally break
it down. So it's been super fun to do that.
But yeah, he'll be a blast to talk to. Do
you joke with.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Your brother about the Tom Brady wanting to be a
Raider and then yelling at the Raiders that you're going
to keep him over me?
Speaker 7 (29:48):
Yeah, there's some things that we joke about.
Speaker 13 (29:50):
Okay, probably don't need to be aunty, so you go
feel free, man, feel free to what he says. But look,
it's so funny because like literally the same day that
even like the last couple of days of that stuff
has kind of research, He's on the phone with Mark Davis, Like,
so Mark is just he wants a good team, he
wants a good product. He wants someone in the building
like that's why Tom's did right now. He wants a
guy that can kind of push this football thing forward.
He knows he's a smart he's a smart guy, Like
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he understands that he doesn't have all the answers.
Speaker 7 (30:13):
So yeah, it's it's it's a good time, man, Oh
my good time.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
When you know everybody wanted to know, well, what guy's
he talking about? What team is Brady talking about? And
you know how Brady you know, oh yeah, he's just
you know, tough guy. You're going to keep that bleep,
you know sure?
Speaker 13 (30:28):
I mean, I mean every quarterback feels that way, like
you absolutely If you don't feel that way, then I
mean that's why he's considered one of the greatest quarterbacks ever,
if not the greatest, like because he has that competitive spirit, like, yeah,
I can absolutely come in and do that job. Bro, Dan,
I feel like I can go out there right now.
I absolutely cannot and take half these guys jobs. I
cannot do it. Just for the record, You're not better
than Flacco, absolutely not. First of all, the guys the
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size of this wall, Like he's six eight and he
feels completely healthy.
Speaker 7 (30:55):
I have a bad hit, so.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
He's yeah, he's got Roethlisberger could probably still play one
hundred percent.
Speaker 13 (31:01):
Like there's I haven't seen Roethlisberger's shape like recently.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
Was big. I don't know if he was having.
Speaker 13 (31:09):
Big and big and big for a while. It is
a different thing, you know, like big in football. I
remember talking to Ben. He might hate me for telling
the story, but we had the lock out and we
ended up playing them in the preseason, and so this
was after everyone. No one has been doing anything. Really,
We've been trying. We were in the building. We're trying
to go put workouts together. Ben said, Dave, I haven't
put on cleats since Christmas and this is August. So
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I'm like, so Ben's been out for a while. What's
what's he like right now?
Speaker 7 (31:35):
I don't know, Dan, I don't know. Three hundred possibly
pushing it, yeah, possibly pushing it. Yeah, big dude, I'm concerned.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
Great great stories, great appearance. Thanks for joining us, oh Man.
Speaker 7 (31:46):
I always enjoyed it.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
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Speaker 2 (32:00):
Mark Sanchez, he called the Broncos Week one win over
the Titans. He's got the seahauwnks at the Steelers coming
up at one Eastern Sunday on Fox. Good to see
you again. What's the biggest concern from Week one, either
player or team or coach than you have.
Speaker 5 (32:19):
Well from our games? Specifically, Wait twenty second could be
a full six to two and a quarter to forty two. Okay,
let's see Broncos game. Who Bonick struggle. He really did,
and I don't think it's catastrophic. I don't think it's
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the end of the world for those guys. But he
just didn't look as sharp as I thought everybody expected,
and the defense bailed him out big time. I've been there.
I know what that feels like. You know, after you
go to the playoffs, your rookie year, coming back that
next year, expectations are just sky high. So we laid
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an egg our first game. My second year got sumped
by the Ravens, and it felt like the walls are
closing in sky's falling. Everything's horrible, but at least they
got the win. So I'd rather him learn those lessons
with a w then have to go through all that
film and digest all that with a loss. That would
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have been tough. At home, that would have been really tough.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Our rookie quarterbacks still making the same mistakes, whether it
was ten years ago, fifteen years ago, I think so.
Speaker 5 (33:41):
I think like in our game, specifically, you know cam Ward,
it's a back and forth game, defensive battle, and at
one point I want to say, it was like nine
to six or ten to nine or something like that,
and they get this turnover, a total gift, a muff
punt and he takes two sacks, knocks him out of
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field goal range. They punt and you lose the points,
You lose the momentum, you get a chance to go,
you know, to go up, take the lead for the
first time in the game. And it's stuff like that.
Like I know, from the booth it's easy to say,
and from here it's easy to say. But if I
was coaching those guys, it might be one of those
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situations where you grab him by the face mask and say, hey,
we're inside the thirty. We do not end this down
or end this drive with anything less than three points.
I don't care if you catch the ball and throw
it in the stands three times, it doesn't matter. We
need the points, you know what I mean. And if
you can relate that to a young kid, because they're
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just in the moment, feeling the emotions ceiling. It was
interesting talking to Vance Joseph before the game, the defense
coordinator for the Broncos. I think he's gonna be a
head CoA by the way, pretty soon.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
Again.
Speaker 5 (35:03):
But he just said, I don't want this kid to
see the ball go in the hoop. I want to
blur the screen with our speed. I want them to
feel our rush. I want to bat balls at the
line of scrimmage. I just don't want them to get comfortable.
I want them to hold it and just create indecision
for that long and we'll do the rest. It's exactly
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what they did. And in a situation like that, all
young quarterbacks you screw up. You you try and do
too much. You try and get out of trouble, and
pretty soon you lose fifteen yards. Now we're out of
field goal range. So that was a tough stretch.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
What did you hear in the pocket when you were
back to pass?
Speaker 2 (35:44):
It's quiet, but there's noise around you, but your blocking noise.
Speaker 5 (35:53):
Yeah, you don't, Oh, such a good question. You just
get so used to the quiet. It's kind of like
a like a dull roar over the top. The one
thing I will say is what I learned kind of
early on, is if you're at home and sometimes you
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get rid of the ball and you throw it, it
leaves your hand and you don't see the guy catch
it because you get hit. So you're laying on your back,
staring at the ceiling or the sky. And if you're
at home and you hear a big cheer, you can
get up slow. If you're at home and you hear it, oh,
you're like, oh boy, I got to make a tackle.
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And then it flips on the road. You know, if
you cut that ball loose and you're staring at the
ceiling and the crowd goes nuts, you're like, oh, dude,
I got to go make a tackle.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Have you broken down Aaron Rodgers' performance against the Jets yet?
Speaker 3 (36:50):
WHOA?
Speaker 5 (36:50):
That was impressive. Well, one of the one of the touchdowns.
I mean he threw four in the stats, right, but
one of them was a little you know, jet sweep
out of the gun where you just flip it to
the guy. So he looked, he looked impressive.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
Man.
Speaker 5 (37:06):
He had a little bounce in his step the first touchdown.
The role to the right that he throws, it's essentially
a naked and I mean that thing was a missile. Man.
He looked, He looked great. And is that just week one?
Is that you know full recovery from the achilles? Is
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that added juice because it's the Jets and he wanted
to embarrass him. Maybe a little everything, but I was
I was thoroughly impressed. He looks good.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Yeah, I didn't know if he could make that signature
role right and zip it like he did throughout his career.
I thought maybe he's more of a pocket pouncer. But
it feels like he came in this way, he's going
out this way with you know, that that mobility, and
I don't.
Speaker 5 (37:53):
Think he's quite as mobile obviously as he was, but
he's mobile enough to do stuff like that. But like
in the pocket he was. You know, Romo doesn't get
enough credit for extending plays. Rogers doesn't get enough credit
for extending plays because you have guys like Josh Allen
and Lamar Jackson and designed quarterback runs. But these guys
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were like elite athletes at the quarterback position. And the
way he could hit his back foot and kind of
get that like low lean forward and then just go
navigate the pocket and then step up and rifle something
down the field. I mean, nobody can do what he does.
And it's a I mean the guy changed his full
throwing motion, you know, a few years into his career
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because his knee was bugging him, and then he started
that like jump throw that cam Ward and all these
kids are doing. Everybody off platform two feet in the
air launching the ball. You would never ever teach a
kid to do that ever, It's too hard. It takes
too much coordination, it takes too much trunk rotation, it
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takes too much of the rest your arm and everything
being perfect as you release the ball. It's so hard
to do it, and he does it with little effort,
it seems.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
But you have these younger quarterbacks now who they idolized
Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
Yeah, like that.
Speaker 5 (39:16):
Well, Matthew's like one of the best pocket passers number one.
But mechanics wise, he's only gotten better his whole career.
And he came in solid, just nice ball carriage, great feet,
can throw it off his back foot, has plenty of
juice in his arm, and you know the stuff to
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the left, like he takes the cheat step slightly to
the right and drifts just to open enough so he
never leaves anything to left inside and then it goes
the other way like he's he's one of the best
mechanically and you know as a competitor, arm strength, all that,
he's he's got it all.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
Yeah, it surprised me because it's almost like younger players
look up to Paul George in the NBA and I
go Paul George, and you know, like for a different
generation they looked up to Paul George and then you
get Caleb Williams and c J.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
Stroud and they're like, man, man their Stafford's the man.
Speaker 5 (40:13):
And I'm like, he's incredible.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
He takes a beating.
Speaker 5 (40:18):
Well, he dropped back that many times. Every once in
a while, they're gonna they're gonna get you. But how
about my guy, Caleb Man, I.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
Don't know, Oh you tell me. I mean first or
second half?
Speaker 5 (40:31):
Yeah, it's I don't know. It's it seemed like he
reverted to some of those bad habits. And you know,
the good place aren't just good, they're incredible. They're you know,
top ten, highlight reel good, and then the bad ones.
You're like, how do we miss that throw? You know,
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how do we ah? What is it? What do we
what are we missing here? And I mean you saw
a speed when he decided to actually run on one
of them. Oh my god, he's way faster than you think.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
But can you be objective when you're talking about him
because you know, I know because the USC Yeah.
Speaker 5 (41:14):
Yeah, I mean listen, I I gotta call it how
I see it.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
And what concerns you then that that?
Speaker 2 (41:23):
I mean, you got the best offensive head coach, you know,
play caller. I mean you got you got what you need,
you got weapons, you got an offensive line that's improved.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
What's missing here.
Speaker 5 (41:36):
A couple of those throws. I mean, you just got
to hit a couple of those throws. I don't know
if it's the front foot. So like if you're a
right handed quarterback, your front left toe, your left big toe,
the ball is going to go right off that big
toe wherever, wherever you point it, that's where the ball's going.
So it's natural for right handers on an inbreaking route
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from right to left. So like a slant route on
the right handed thrower's right side breaking to the left
to leave the ball to the right behind the guy right,
it's natural for the guy going the opposite direction to
throw it in front of him. He was like all
over the place. I'm both and you know a couple
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of scenarios where guys were open. You know, you saw
DJ Moore the one in the in the end zone
to the left side. So that's kind of like you know,
the little red thing on your mailbox. It's up you
check the mail, Yeah, the little flag. Yeah, that's like
DJ just broke off his route and threw his hand
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out because nobody was there. That's like, you know, if
you're a veteran receiver and you're really Randy Moss used
to do it all the time. He just throw his
hand up and then oh, it's a go ball, all right,
red flag, check the mail and launch it. And it
landed ten yards out of bounds, and you're like, oh man,
you know, like those ones you're just I don't know
(43:02):
if it's just an excitement or but sometimes the ball
just jumps out of his hand and it's you know,
completely out of whack. And then the other ones that
are you know, they got to be perfect, I mean
their money, you know, and and it's it's just an
inconsistency right now, and so hopefully it's you know, first
(43:22):
game jitters or something, and and they correct it, because
you know, I'm obviously rooting for him, but yeah, it
wasn't it wasn't his best game. It was inconsistent. He
started hot and then it looked like a little bit
like last year.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
He's one of those quarterbacks or players that I would
call the red zone player. When you're watching the red zone,
they show you highlights, but if you watch the totality
of a game, that's when you realize that, right, maybe
he might have had four, you know, great moments, it
was all the other ones.
Speaker 3 (43:54):
So there's certain players. Kyler Murray would be like that.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
I'm like, damn, he's having a great game, and then
all of a sudden you look at his stats and
you go, oh, well, he only had three other completions.
Speaker 3 (44:04):
There certain guys like that.
Speaker 5 (44:06):
Sure.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
Justin Herbert was on the show prior to the start
of the season and I said, why don't you do
kind of what Josh Allen's doing. Why don't you make
put pressure on defenses by running, because we've seen him
run in college the Rose Bull.
Speaker 3 (44:22):
He was wonderful. And then we started to see.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
Now, I don't know if this is going to be
something that's in the playbook, but he did use his
legs in that game against the Chiefs a lot more
than I think we've seen before.
Speaker 5 (44:34):
Oh he looked great. He I think he's not going
to do the runs, so sorry, my dog's john us.
All right, He's not gonna do as many designed runs,
but I think when he can extend plays, and then
you see him get outside, when Chris Jones took the
inside path and he feels that open edge, the dude's gone.
(44:58):
He's got a long stridelink. I mean, he looks like
a gazelle when he runs and he covers a ton
of ground and it looks effortless. It's just you know,
get down, get out of bounds, that kind of deal.
But he's he's better than people give him credit for.
You know, I really do think that. And I don't
think he's completely realized his potential. I don't think he's
(45:21):
played the way that game the other night. They lose
that the last three four years, Yeah, hands down, no
doubt about it. And it looked like they were going
to lose again. It's like, oh man, they were closed,
but here we go. This is kind of kind of
what we're expecting. And he completely flipped the script and
just owned it. And I just I really think he's
(45:45):
he's one of those special players that that's just waiting
for that opportunity, and he hit the big one. They
got three Division games out of the out of the
blocks here, they got the Raiders on Monday night coming up,
and then I want to say that, I think the
Broncos after that. Yeah, so that's a grueling schedule. The
AFC West is legit and all those all those games
(46:08):
are a street fight. Everybody wants to run the ball.
Har ball, Carol, you know the Chiefs want to run
the ball, everybody. And it's I's seen me a good division.
Whoever comes out of there might make a little noise.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
But when did we get away from the run that
now we're coming back to the run?
Speaker 5 (46:28):
I think, I don't know, it feels like the last
five seasons it's turned into a little bit like seven
on seven and you know, you got to throw it
fifty times. I feel like, you know, the way defenses
have really shifted. Other than a couple of coordinators in
the league, a lot of teams are adopting that kind
(46:48):
of blanket umbrella coverage. Ben don't break mentality. We'll throw
a couple of pressures here and there, some simulated pressures,
but we're not going to get caught, and we're going
to force you to go fifteen plays, you know, convert
three third and fives, third and nine, third and twelve, Like,
we're gonna make you do that, and I guarantee you're
(47:09):
gonna screw it up before our defense test. You're gonna
give us a cheap one. Somebody's gonna fumble, you're gonna
get a holding. You're either punting or were taking the
ball away. So I feel like once that started to
happen and teams started to back up a little bit,
it's a natural reaction to just turn around, hand the
ball to somebody and let them go, you know, hound
the defense, force them to bring that guy in the box,
(47:29):
and then we'll get creative.
Speaker 11 (47:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:31):
I thought at one point somebody was gonna be we're
going to be a run first team because defenses were
all quick, guys were smaller, and I thought, man, why
don't you go you'll have a counter attack and just
say we're just gonna ram it down your throat because
you're not gonna get bigger in the offense. You know,
we're we're gonna be built to beat you guys, because
(47:53):
everybody was, you know, but the Bengals went all air
attack here.
Speaker 5 (47:58):
I remember going to call a game and since he
probably two years ago, but I mean, they throw up
more than anybody. And I asked Zach Taylor, I said, hey,
are those old linemen ever gonna just start a mutiny?
And he goes why, I said, since they got to
pass that all game? Man? I said, are you ever
going to hand the rock? What's the deal? And he's like,
(48:20):
come on, that's we got to give it to our
best player, number nine in the offense runs through number nine,
and I said, hey, Joe Mixon is pretty good too,
you know, yeah, you can you can run it. So
it was it was funny just messing with him a
little bit.
Speaker 3 (48:33):
Gonna have that change up, man.
Speaker 2 (48:34):
Uh. Mark will be calling the Seahawks at the Steelers
one Eastern and it'll be on Fox. Great to talk
to you again. Hope the family exscontiates you guys. Thanks
for joining us, sir, Thank you, Mark Sanchez
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
The new top twenty five came out Ohio State, Penn State, LSU, Oregon, Miami,
Georgia in there. Can we check and see where South
Florida is, because when I mentioned this this morning, that
is South Florida in the top ten. The looks that
I got back from everybody was like, what, yes, Marvin.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
South Florida.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
In two different polls, they are twenty third in one poll,
in ranked number eighteenth in another.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
What is wrong with these voters? You beat Boise State
and beat Florida. Is that the problem?
Speaker 5 (00:40):
My bulls?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
They got it wrong, my bull Yes, my South Florida bulls.
By the way, I know that you think I lead
this great life, and sometimes I do. Last night I
was watching the BYU Stanford re air Rear. Yeah, yeah,
BYU's got a quarterback is numbers forty seven, and I go,
(01:01):
all right, Andrew Luck on the sidelines and this kid's
I think a true freshman, And it looked Okay, look,
you know, it's fun. It's interesting to see a quarterback.
We're number forty seven. Yes, Paul, I'm going to back
you on this.
Speaker 6 (01:16):
You're not desperate and alone watching football. You are watching
football because you can't watch all the games on Saturdays
and ever years are kind of fun to learn about teams. Yeah,
and especially for if you're a voter or a Heisman voter,
you should be well versed.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
I think this guy is his first name is Bear Awesome. Yeah,
but number forty seven?
Speaker 7 (01:33):
Yes, Ton, But.
Speaker 8 (01:34):
Isn't there something to be said about taking one or
two days off, especially these next few months. We've got
to pace ourselves. If you're gonna use Tuesday under a
Wednesday to rewatch games or watch games that you happen
to miss, then you're gonna have no break. Ever, it's
going to be seven days a week. And as much
as we love sports, sometimes you need a little family
time or take a nap or something.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
This is This is called homework. It's called preparation.
Speaker 9 (01:55):
We're going to talk a lot of BYU football today.
Speaker 8 (01:57):
I didn't see it.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
I just you know, maybe we talked Andrew Luck and
Stanford and they didn't look good. So maybe Frank Reich
isn't the head coach there next year. Maybe Andrew Lucky is.
I don't know, Tod.
Speaker 9 (02:10):
Those are valid topics.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Thank you each other.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Yes, yeah, but I was just you know, going through
and all of a sudden, I go, okay, I'm gonna
watch a little bit of b YU. There nothing wrong
with that, Todd. You can't watch Ohio State every weekend.
Speaker 9 (02:23):
I know.
Speaker 8 (02:24):
I was just concerned for you to have a little break,
you know, the time with the wife or whatever. You know,
a day or two where you're like, no football because
the other five days we're going to be swimming in Well.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Thank you, thank you, thank you for worrying about my
social life at home.
Speaker 9 (02:36):
Got for a night's dinner, you know, Light a candle,
a little intimacy or whatever. Don't worry about the.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
By you re aired.
Speaker 9 (02:41):
Light a candle, set the mood, dim the lights, whatever
you guys do.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
It's not my business.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Maybe I was setting the mood with BYU against.
Speaker 8 (02:51):
By I'm about to try that sometime we are of
a college football game, see what I get.
Speaker 9 (02:56):
But I'm doing some fars of work.
Speaker 6 (03:00):
Yeah, fall, but the South Florida thing is kind of
semi real. If they can beat Miami this weekend, they
become the lovable team, like you know, Arizona State last year,
SMU last year.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Or Boise State that's right.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
They could be a top ten team if they beat
Miami their top ten team?
Speaker 5 (03:14):
Is that?
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Okay everybody? Okay, I'm in early on that.
Speaker 6 (03:17):
They won't get top ten. They won't crack the top
ten by it if they beat Miami. They I'm not
saying they shouldn't. I'm saying they won't. They people like
to tiptoe for a lovable new team to be the
top ten. If they beat Miami, they're looking at a
nice fourteen spot and that's fantastic in September.
Speaker 10 (03:35):
Okay, yeah, yeah, agree, because we don't even know if
Miami is real.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Yeah, they beat Notre Dame.
Speaker 10 (03:42):
Well, they don't know that Notre Dame is real.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Yeah, that's true. They're ranked higher than South Florida and
they haven't won a game yet. These poles are always weird.
That's why you know that first pole that should come
out should come out in October because we and we
do this all the time the preseason where we rank
some in North Carolina was the number one team in
America preseason for basketball. They didn't make the tournament. Okay,
(04:09):
North Carolina, they didn't play well, but all the voters
who put North Carolina number one didn't do well either.
It's I don't know, let's just put the blue bloods
up there, and then all of a sudden they don't
perform as well as they shouldn't.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Then we go, oh, man, what happened to you guys?
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Guys, are the ones who ranked us higher than we
probably should have been, Yes, Todd, it proves the same.
Speaker 9 (04:29):
You don't want to end up on the poll. There
you go. I thought that was a great line. I'm
really disappointed. I can get a reaction.
Speaker 8 (04:36):
It's it's it's like a it's like a jinx to
be on the pole.
Speaker 9 (04:40):
You don't want to be on the poll. Youn't want
your kids on the pole. You don't want to be.
Speaker 7 (04:42):
On the poll.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
You want to be on the poll if you're a team.
Speaker 8 (04:47):
Yeah, but if they if they overrank you and then
all of a sudden, like you just said, they're not
performing well, they made us the number six team in
the country and we lost our first two games.
Speaker 9 (04:53):
You don't want to end up on the poll in
the beginning. You don't want to be on the poll. Okay,
pol Or you said, I s it's just not funny.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
I need you to slow down. Okay, I need you.
I'm being honest.
Speaker 9 (05:06):
I think I may have taken the wrong medication.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Now I'm gonna blame Paulie for having eye surgery yesterday.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
I heard it was wild.
Speaker 9 (05:12):
Yes, it was his fault because I got a little loose.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
You got loose, and you're still loose.
Speaker 9 (05:18):
And I've got a calm down.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
And then he's, you know, singing Beatles songs right in
my face because he's mocking me.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
He's trolling me.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Got the Beatles sweatshirt he's talking about when he was
in high school driving around trying to pick up girls.
Speaker 9 (05:30):
It wasn't just the singing.
Speaker 8 (05:30):
I took my finger and I kind of pointed in
your eye and I made like a little concentric circles
in your face.
Speaker 9 (05:34):
You didn't like the finger in the seat.
Speaker 10 (05:36):
There are days that I wonder if Todd's medication is balanced.
Speaker 7 (05:40):
Today is one of those days, and it's not.
Speaker 10 (05:42):
The telltale sign is whenever Todd is talking and he's
going really fast, but he ends up flying, his words
are flying, and then what happens.
Speaker 7 (05:52):
Is he.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
Runs out of air.
Speaker 10 (05:56):
Eddie's laughing while doing that. That to when you know, like,
oh boy, this dude is really one right now, He's like.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
B And it wasn't just me who said something to you.
Marvin wanted to know if you were on drugs and
Setan questioned what was going on.
Speaker 9 (06:12):
It's a little frightening for.
Speaker 8 (06:13):
Me too, because sometimes I think I'm gonna bite my
tongue off or something like that when it's not going
like really fast.
Speaker 9 (06:17):
But I got to settle down a little bit, just
a long show minutes.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Yes, yes, I want you to pace yourself. Okay.
Speaker 8 (06:24):
I've been getting a lot of extra sleep little and
wearing that the seatpap thing you know for the sleep
app near or the air is springing your up your
nose and your mouth to make sure you don't die
in your sleep.
Speaker 9 (06:33):
It's a I think that's helped.
Speaker 10 (06:34):
I got overly oxygenated.
Speaker 8 (06:36):
I think I think got it because all I took
was like a centrum silver.
Speaker 9 (06:40):
And like a calcium pill. I wouldn't do this to.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Me, Yes, Marvin, well, maybe he should take a Flintstone's
kids vitaimin next time.
Speaker 10 (06:46):
It was silver part of the thing.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Yeah, centrum silver for those of us fifty and above.
Oh okay, center like they.
Speaker 8 (06:52):
Put a couple extra things in there for extra zinc
and copper in your bloodstream or whatever it is.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Seed wants the whole question today.
Speaker 10 (06:58):
So glad you asked, where should Florida be ranked?
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Top ten?
Speaker 10 (07:01):
Eleven, twenty one plus?
Speaker 5 (07:03):
Who saw that coming?
Speaker 7 (07:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Are there bowls in South Florida?
Speaker 6 (07:08):
It's a hotbed of livestock.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
The only bowl in South Florida is Michael Jordan. Okay,
all right, giving that to you, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 9 (07:18):
I'm not going to give you.
Speaker 10 (07:19):
That one, right, Todd at a boy kid, all right, Todd, you.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Mess with the bull and you get these Okay, Yeah,
that's right, that's right.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
Okay.
Speaker 9 (07:34):
I'm not just going to follow the group. I have
my own independent opinion.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Do we do? We have?
Speaker 5 (07:39):
What? Marvin?
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Sorry, you were talking about South Florida? Like they'd beat
Urban Myers Florida Gators. They beat Billy naviy Ors Florida Gators.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
I'd like the underdog. I like the little guy.
Speaker 9 (07:51):
Oh so do I would you say?
Speaker 7 (07:52):
Top ten?
Speaker 5 (07:52):
Me?
Speaker 9 (07:52):
And Seton looked at you like top ten in Florida?
Speaker 7 (07:56):
Sure?
Speaker 10 (07:57):
I mean I'm not exactly the gatekeeper of all college
football polls, but that seems like a stretch this early and.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Okay, all right, all right.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
I think because they're they're called South Florida that hurts them.
Now it's like, where is it South Florida. Yeah, so
it's down, it's down south bottom part Yeah, yes.
Speaker 6 (08:19):
Yes, directional schools have an upward track. So like last year,
Northern Illinois takes down Notre Dame, everyone's into Northern Illinois.
It was a September game. It was a big, big
deal for Northern Illinois. I think they lost the next weekend,
so like they didn't even last a week.
Speaker 5 (08:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (08:33):
But meanwhile though, then interesting part of that is that
if Florida was actually two states and there was in
North Florida and South Florida sort of like the Carolinas,
they would be fine. South Carolina. They don't get called
the directional school because that's state school is South Carolina.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
That's a good, good call, you know.
Speaker 10 (08:49):
But if there was South Florida as a state and
North Florida as a state, nobody would judge South Florida
poorly for that.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Yeah, yes, Marton, you know what, I'm against South Florida
already because they play in Tampa.
Speaker 10 (09:01):
Okay, that's not south south central?
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Is it mid mid mid Florida mid mid middle Florida.
Speaker 10 (09:09):
You just call the mid mid Florida.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Dang, I'm here to praise the bulls. You're trying to
bury him.
Speaker 10 (09:19):
That is kind of mid Florida, isn't it. What's the
cut off line is Orlando?
Speaker 6 (09:23):
The line Orlando is Central Florida.
Speaker 10 (09:28):
Yes, the Dixon Dixon line is uh.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
And then Tampa is so mid mid Florida, Tampa Tampa.
Speaker 6 (09:37):
It's kind of a standalone, isn't it?
Speaker 10 (09:39):
Sort of a central Florida situation.
Speaker 7 (09:41):
Really, would they.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Be better off at the University of Tampa. Isn't there
a University of Tampa anyway?
Speaker 5 (09:47):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (09:48):
But I think South Florida that confuses.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
People a little bit, like, uh, where are you?
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Oh?
Speaker 10 (09:53):
And not Miami.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
You're in Tallahassee near Tallahassee. Yeah, Okay, so South Florida.
What's the point spread for South Florida and Miami. Now
I am really invested in this game. Now, I am
Game of the Week by far. I'm hoping is it
on the CW.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Of course it is. The big games are on the
c W.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
I hope I get my South Florida jersey in time
to wear it by Friday.
Speaker 6 (10:21):
Celebrity fans. Yeah, South Florida.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
How many celebrity fans? Sorry? Who are the celebrities at
South Florida? Okay? Any other pole questions? Aside from that
one seaton, there's.
Speaker 10 (10:31):
Going to be about thirteen more South Florida ones. I
can tell you, Okay, the South Florida Bulls they are
a university as well, it's not a college.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Okay.
Speaker 10 (10:40):
I think that's pretty good. Okay, I'm doing a deep
dive on South Florida right now.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Heck, let me get to Christopher in Colorado Springs. Hey, Chris, Hey, Daran.
Speaker 11 (10:54):
Hey guys, hey five six fifty good, totally fulfilling a
life moment here. Let me take a little breath. Thanks guys.
So it's got to let you know, you guys are
my only football friend. It's the most amazing thing we
(11:16):
can up listening to my fellas. You make my day
go by. It's great. So, Dan, let me tell you
about you once talked about how you control the music
at your dinner table. Yeah, so you know, we did
that for a long time where the wife and I
would just choose songs. But then you got to where
(11:36):
we were just playing the same songs over and over
and over again, you know, same bands. So what I
started last August was we started with the A's and
we picked an A band and every night we pick
a different A band and we listen to all the
music we can listen to, and it has spread our
music knowledge considerably.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Well, I'm happy for you and thank you for calling in, Christopher.
But I control the music and I'll sprinkle in, you know,
maybe something random and uh, you know, things go well,
you know, it goes, it sets the mood, you know, Yes, Marmon,
(12:17):
what's your go to at the dinner table?
Speaker 3 (12:20):
I just usually on Spotify and I'll do it.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Could be usually it's a band like Beach Boys Radio
and then you get a playlist of a lot of
different things.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Or yes, time my song.
Speaker 9 (12:32):
Is past the Chicken to the left bun tidy Tago book.
Is that not our audience? Is that not our generation?
Past the duchy?
Speaker 3 (12:40):
No, no, I got no, I got you.
Speaker 9 (12:42):
I believe it's something.
Speaker 10 (12:43):
About it past the chicken. It's like, has it down
the table because we're eating dinner?
Speaker 9 (12:47):
Thank you?
Speaker 10 (12:48):
Yeah, okay, how about we take a break. I might
have gone over some people's heads, but it shouldn't.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Have PAULI, do you wish you had eye surgery a second? Yeah, yeah,
I wish ear surgery.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
Might be more helpful.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
That's just so mean.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
I don't know. There were some lines yesterday off off
air that were directed towards Paul, right, tod.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
I can't recall it, if anything that was done in
jess after all, So there were there were.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
By the way, South Florida is getting seventeen and a half,
they are ripe.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
For an upset South Florida against the U.
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Speaker 7 (14:40):
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Speaker 13 (14:41):
But Pat Hill was not going to have that, Dan,
you know he was gonna He rolled into my house
fresh off the airplane in Cleveland as the offensive line assistant,
and he had a taped up duffel bag, sat down
in my living room and just wouldn't leave.
Speaker 7 (14:54):
I was like, Pat, we gotta get on a flight
tomorrow to go to Washington. Maybe you said.
Speaker 13 (14:57):
He's like, no, you're gonna pay quarterback for me. We're
going to handle the trenches. And it was just so
unique and he's he's my favorite. I saw him two
days ago with Derek and we went over and just
kind of spent some time with him.
Speaker 7 (15:07):
But he's still out there.
Speaker 13 (15:09):
He's still at Fresno State holding the cards for the
practice squad, like he literally is running the scout team
defense to get those guys ready.
Speaker 7 (15:16):
So love his heart. Man, he's awesome.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
More important to have a better relationship with your head
coach or your offensive coordinator.
Speaker 7 (15:24):
Offensive coordinator, hands down, he's the guy that he's in
your ear.
Speaker 13 (15:27):
The head coach. You know, if you have a defensive
minded head coach, you rarely talked to him. I remember
I talked to Don Capers in Houston right before the game,
like about an hour hour and a half before the game,
in his office and it was like, oh, hey, it's
good to see you, Like what's the plan today?
Speaker 7 (15:41):
And it's really unique. But the offense priinter you talk
to you at every way.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
So your debut, you didn't talk to your head coach
until an hour before the game, not.
Speaker 13 (15:51):
Like a formal meeting or nothing really exs knows wise.
He just kind of brought me in his office like
this is cool. It's like being in the principal's office
a little bit.
Speaker 7 (15:57):
How are we going to do this thing? But it
worked out all right.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
But that coordinator you're tied to and we find well,
you can look at track records with quarterbacks and go
how many offensive coordinators have they burned through or head
coaches there, And sometimes we don't factor that in when
somebody's successful or they're not. But we should factor that
in a lot more than we do.
Speaker 7 (16:18):
Yeah. Absolutely, shit.
Speaker 13 (16:19):
I mean I think that it's just so difficult because
you invest all of your time and energy into learning
this system and like ingraining it into your vocabulary. I
mean so much so that my wife will tell you
I would literally like say audibles in my sleep, and
I would just bark out these caides and say it's
like you have to internalize it. And then it's like, Okay,
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well he's not good enough, let's get another one. And hey,
you got to memorize all these calls. I've gotten to
the line of scrimmers before and called the wrong audibles
from the previous offense. I did it with I did
it in New York, so they've just come off with
Super Bowl. I landed it with the Giants. I go
up to the line of scrimmage. I know the play
I want to get two weeks side inside zone run
and I checked to the wrong play and Shan O'Hara
turns around, looks at me. He's like, what, like, literally
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mid play. I got it right, You figured it out
for me. Having a great sinner's always a good backup plan.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
But is there like common verbiage though for all quarterbacks
that you know, maybe a different color or a number
or whatever, but it always sort of the same.
Speaker 7 (17:18):
All the plays are the same, like we just call
him something different.
Speaker 13 (17:21):
So what you have to do is I actually heard
a great Keenan McCardell or Keenan Allen was talking about
this before the broadcast of the Day Chargers Chiefs and
he's like, honestly, it's the same plays. I just have
to kind of memorize what words they're using. And so
it's all the same stuff. And it's a copycat league.
You see, like Ben Johnson's had success the last couple
of years, Well everybody just rips his stuff. He's call
it something else, like, well you just stole his copyright
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infringement right here. But it's all the same stuff. You
just got to figure out what the new terms are.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Give me the team that stood out either good or
bad from week one.
Speaker 13 (17:51):
Well, Miami was obviously it was on the same field
as the team that actually stood out as good. So
it's like you think Miami's going to go in there
with Tyreek and Okay, there's no captains up there, and
he maybe he's not the leader.
Speaker 7 (18:01):
He'll still make some plays.
Speaker 13 (18:02):
But like the Indy, you know, Daniel Jones is the
guy that we ran out of town in New York.
He's not good enough to play there, and so he
lands in Indy and he's he's surrounded by a good cast. Obviously,
Schematically had some good answers. He made some great checks
to the line of scrimmage. By the way I mean
he was. He was really on it. It was funny
because he looked like Peyton, you know, because you get
in the same uniform, you're in that building. You start
to say, weok he's got the same mannerisms. It's it's
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really unique. So I'm gonna study and follow Indy the
rest of the year. But Miami was kind of disappointing.
But they'll bounce back. They'll be okay too. It didn't
play as bad as people thought. You that they have
some schematic issues like they were, they were bringing extra
pressures off the edges. They really hit him with some
some timely blitzes that that wasn't fortunate for Miami.
Speaker 7 (18:41):
That was that was unique.
Speaker 13 (18:42):
You know, I think that when you look around, like
the quarterbacks that moved into different scenarios, Like you talk
about Russ, Like Russ was on a playoff team last year.
He lands in New York and now, oh he can't
play anymore. Well, you know, Daniel Jones left New York
and now he all of a sudden can play. So
it's like, are we talking about the scenario, are we
talking about the you know, the rounding components, or are
we talking about specific players. So I think that's gonna
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be the fun part as we go forward, is like,
these guys are in good situations, they're gonna play well.
These guys are in bad situations, they're not gonna play well.
Like is Jackson Dart going in in New York? Like
I don't necessarily think Jackson Dart's gonna solve your problems
that you have in New York.
Speaker 7 (19:15):
So it'll be fun to watch it.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
He's David Carr, NFL Network analyst. You can see him
on the NFL Game Day Final this Sunday at eleven
thirty am Eastern on NFL Network. When Peyton changed the game,
calling plays at the line of scrimmage, was there pressure
on other quarterbacks and offensive coordinators like we have to
do the same thing.
Speaker 7 (19:37):
We tried to mimic it, like there was even a
scenario we played the Rams.
Speaker 13 (19:41):
So I feel like I'm responsible for the birth of
Ryan Fitzpatrick and the Fits magic because so we're playing
the Rams at home in Houston. My offensive coordinator decides, Hey,
we're gonna let you go the line of scrimmage and
call your own place. I'm like, fantastic, that's great, We're.
Speaker 7 (19:53):
Gonna get one formation. So we played fast.
Speaker 13 (19:56):
I mean, I didn't have a ton of them Peyton has,
I mean, it's endless his catalog that he can get to.
I had like seven plays, right, So we ran our
seven plays. We get up, we get up twenty one,
We're up like we're winning. And then we get to
the halftime and the offensive cornery comes in and he says, hey,
that was great, you know, but what we're gonna do
now is we're gonna establish the run. So he takes
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the play sheet from me. So now he goes into
his We're gonna we're gonna hang onto the ball, We're
gonna keep it away from here comes the points, right,
Ryan Fitzpatrick blasts his way all the way back. They
end up beating us on the last play of the
game because we just got he got taken away.
Speaker 7 (20:30):
But it was so fun, it was so freeing.
Speaker 13 (20:32):
Like as a quarterback, I just I loved having that
ability and that freedom, and you end up taking an ownership.
It's like if you're teaching, if you're teaching someone something
like you just automatically you learn it better yourself. And
I think that that's the fun part about that. And
that's kind of what I miss, honestly about the current
quarterback state is there's not a lot of those guys
doing that anymore. There are some, and like, that's why
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I got so excited about Daniel Jones because he's up
there making checks, moving guys around. He has that ability
he has. Dak was doing that the other day and
then it win. But Dak's got full ownership. If that
was in Oxnard watching them practice. He's gonna play better
this year. See he's gonna catch the ball. Obviously he
might actually turn out to be a good receiver. But
there's those types of players. I still think you have
to be able to do that because you look at
Josh Allen, you look as great as Josh is love
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Josh at Lamar at some point like why haven't they
been able to get over the hump? It's because of that.
It's because of that ownership at the line of scrimmage
in those crucial situations. That's why Pat Mahomes is still
the guy. Like you can say what you want about him,
maybe put him down the list four or five, but
when it comes down to it, his notes are meticulous.
Speaker 7 (21:32):
He's got a great play caller.
Speaker 13 (21:33):
They know the answers to the test, they know the
problems that you're going to bring them, and they have
answers for him. And I think that there's still that
element that you have to have that component and Brady.
If Brady was here, he'd be telling you like that's
all that matters. I still think that there's a physicality
about it. Like you see, you know, Lamar's back there
running down John Hussey where now the referee is in
a full sprint trying to get away from him. Lamar
ends up making thirty yards. There's the element of that
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that you have to have to play quarterback in this
league still, but you have to be able to win
and diagnose problems from the pocket and solve them.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
That's why when we get quarterback rankings, I say, well
that's regular season, because if we if we have postseason rankings,
the rankings are completely different. You have Mahomes and Jaylen Morres, right,
that's right.
Speaker 13 (22:13):
I couldn't agree more that one to exactly right, they're one,
two and And that's exactly for that reason that we
laid out, and we're like, well, what's the difference. That
is the difference because you get guys like Steve Spagnola.
You get these defensive coordinators that know your protection schem
better than you, honestly, and I've talked to some of
these quarterbacks and I love them.
Speaker 7 (22:28):
They'll go nameless.
Speaker 13 (22:29):
They don't know their protection schemes as well as some
of these defensive coordinators that are facing them. They know
how to bring the four week I mean, that's the
reason that Jared Goff is no longer in LA because
that four week pressure that they didn't have an answer for.
They had to find a guy that could kind of
cover that up, and it was Matt Stafford.
Speaker 7 (22:44):
So there's there's Well when.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Stafford doing differently than Golf didn't recognize it, well.
Speaker 13 (22:51):
They didn't really, they didn't really ask him to in
some systems, and this is what happened to Miami the
other day. So two is getting hit by these four
week pressures, these extra safety to fit that they are
unaccounted for. And so in those systems you use you know,
type formations, use shifts, motions, the speed of Tyreek kill
and that little quick motion that work. Everyone's calling illegal,
like you use that stuff to kind of cover that
stuff up.
Speaker 7 (23:12):
But when it comes down to it, those.
Speaker 13 (23:14):
Good coordinators are going to time it up right where
they know, Like Vic Fangio knows.
Speaker 7 (23:18):
I was with him in Houston.
Speaker 13 (23:19):
He believes that he can guess the offense is play
based on the personnel group in the down and distance,
and he's right a lot of times. So they won
the Super Bowl because those guys understand how to attack structure,
how to attack quarterbacks. And it's just you got to
have that. You got to have that ability to pick
that up. And Stafford. What Stafford does, honestly is he's
just so good at at defeating at buying time.
Speaker 7 (23:39):
They used to tell us in the quarterback room. You
bring that extra pressure.
Speaker 13 (23:42):
Hey guys buy time, Like hey, hold on, I don't
have time to buy with what what credit am I
using to buy this time?
Speaker 7 (23:48):
I don't have it, man, I'm not that guy.
Speaker 13 (23:50):
So but Stafford can just kind of make it physically,
so he kind of covers up for a lot of
that stuff.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
We hear a lot of this.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Uh, when you know these guys come out of college
that in college you can have four seconds and you
could get out of trouble and you could hold onto
the ball and you can try to be a hero.
You can't do that in the NFL. But I'm curious
about teaching getting the ball out, teaching stepping up in
the pocket as opposed to rolling out away from pressure.
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Is it teachable to get the ball out as quickly
as possible, to stay in the pocket, all those things
that you're taught you have.
Speaker 13 (24:22):
So what happens is, and I've been in there, unfortunately,
when it's falling apart and guys are falling, you're getting pressure,
and it's just like, well, the only the only positive
play we had when I was in Houston at times
was me scrambling to the right and find Corey Bradford
after the play had already started, right, So I would
just literally tell we get in the red zone, like Corey.
Speaker 7 (24:38):
If I don't throw it to you right away, just
find me, work with me on the back end line.
Speaker 13 (24:42):
And I literally threw like five or six touchdowns my
second year just doing that because we couldn't hold up inside.
Speaker 7 (24:47):
So that's the problem is because it's just human nature.
It's default for some of these guys to say, I
can just scramble out, and I hate it. I did
it a hundred thousand times as a quarterback.
Speaker 13 (24:56):
But the scramble out to the right throwaway or just
trying to find like it bothers me so much. I
have so much respect for the quarterbacks that can climb
and step up in the pocket and trust their guys.
So what you have to do is you have to
really lock in to your schematics. You have to really
trust your offensive coordinators. So you can tell the guys
that trust their ocs, that trust their play callers they
climb up in the pocket, I trust that that fifth
guy is gonna be there, or that for that checkdown
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is going to be there. The brock Purties finding Christian McCaffrey,
like Dak even did it the other day climbing up
in the pocket, like he just trusts that it's gonna
We're gonna make it work.
Speaker 7 (25:26):
Joe Brow does that at time. Joe Burrow took some
shots the other day.
Speaker 13 (25:28):
Yeah, I mean they were he was getting wrecked, but
he trustsed, he knows, he knows.
Speaker 7 (25:32):
Where his guys are. So it really comes down.
Speaker 13 (25:34):
To really digging into what you're doing, your belief in
your play caller, in the fact he's gonna put you
in a good position.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Can you put us in the in that situation where
you're stepping up in the pocket and there's chaos around you.
Speaker 7 (25:46):
There's no there's no words that can describe it.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Man.
Speaker 13 (25:48):
It's just like you have to have such a faith
that your your guys are gonna win down the field,
that your scheme is right for the play that you have.
And that's why veteran quarterbacks so much want ownership of
the offense and kind of like we were talking about earlier,
where I want to I want to call the play
because I know that I know where the answer is
and if I get in trouble, I know I can
get out of it. The most, Like the thing that
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bothers you the most is when you have a protection
but you go to step up and you know you
don't have a winner. You know, you don't have guys
that are going to win, especially on the based on
the coverage that you have. And it's it's really hard
because then then you go back into those bad habits
of like let me just create, let me just try
and make a play, and now you're just out there.
Speaker 7 (26:26):
You're not You're not going to consistently win.
Speaker 13 (26:28):
That's why, like Brady was always great because he would,
he would, and even Manning, they know where they're going
before the ball.
Speaker 7 (26:33):
Like you talk about like he's staring down or zero.
Speaker 13 (26:35):
Absolutely, he's staring to the exact spot on the field
that he's going to throw this football, and he's going
to do in less than two seconds. Good luck getting
to him. So if you can get to that point
in your offense, then you got to figure it out.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
But Brady could still play today.
Speaker 7 (26:47):
Absolutely absolutely, he could still play. Peyton could still play.
Speaker 13 (26:50):
I mean if you could throw at twenty yards, I
don't know if his neck would let him, but I mean, yeah,
you it's you get to a point where if you
can just keep the physical ability. That's why it was
so interesting talking to Flacco. I went out to Leland,
saw him like, well, how do you feel, because that's
what quarterbacks want to ask the veteran guys, like do
you feel like you can go out there and do
it physically? Because mentally, you know, the more reps you get,
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there isn't a defense on earth that these guys can
invent that you haven't seen and that you don't have
an answer for. So it's just keeping that physical ability
on par with your mental game.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Were you rooting for Caleb Williams to break your sack record?
Speaker 7 (27:23):
That's tough, man. I don't look.
Speaker 13 (27:25):
I know how bad I felt at that moment, and
I didn't want because I was like contemplating, do I
want to play football anymore?
Speaker 7 (27:30):
Like this is kind of hard.
Speaker 13 (27:31):
I've played every sport like I feel like you can
figure out eventually, Like you've played golf, like you're gonna
figure it out, Like you give me enough time, I'll
find a way to win. But it was hard, man, like,
because that's something that's so out of your control. So
for me, like when I'm watching him, I kind of
didn't want him to honestly, Like, if I'm being honest,
I didn't want him to break the records. I don't
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want anybody have to go through because he might not
play football anymore, like he might not.
Speaker 7 (27:54):
Want to do it.
Speaker 13 (27:55):
It's so hard to go through all the stuff we've
talked about ownership of the offense, like being in the
right place at the right time, doing all the all
the right things.
Speaker 7 (28:03):
And then you do everything right. That's what I was.
Speaker 13 (28:06):
That's why I struggled so much with is Like I
remember telling my wife one night, I was like, I
don't I don't know physically or mentally what else to do. Like,
I just don't. I don't know what else to do.
And so when you get to that point, it's that's
a tough Someone's got to bring you back, you know,
because and it's it's got to be something outside of yourself.
Speaker 7 (28:21):
So fortunately for me, I had some great people around
me and some good coaches.
Speaker 13 (28:24):
Eventually, and I got to New York and I found
out football was easy.
Speaker 7 (28:27):
So I mean, that was that was my favorite part.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Seventy six sacks in We'll see so you're first and
third on the.
Speaker 7 (28:34):
Oh, yeah, don't worry.
Speaker 13 (28:35):
We yeah, we went seventy six and then we we
kind of skipped a year, had a good year, had
I think fifty and then we said, you know, we're
gonna go back up there where we got to get.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Our numbers up where we're He went from seventy six
and then just back up to sixty eight.
Speaker 7 (28:47):
Yeah, that's right, that's right. I feel great. New hip.
Speaker 13 (28:49):
I got brand new hip. Titanum feels great. It's the
best joint that I have in my body. Works better
than all the other ones. It's fantastic.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
We got your brother on tomorrow.
Speaker 7 (28:59):
He's gonna be great.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
Man.
Speaker 13 (29:00):
He's so fun. He did that pregame show, Yeah, Chargers
Chiefs the other day. He did great. He just loves
talking football. He loves talking football. So we're actually doing
a show Homegrown Network. We just launched our second show.
It's gonna be today, and we're just talking about quarterbacks,
like all the stuff that we're talking about. It's so
fun to be able to talk about it with him
because I've done it my whole life with him. But
he's right in it, like you talk about like the
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schematics and what these guys are doing and all the
different offenses. He's had everybody like you talk about a
team like, he's had that guy as a coordinator, so
he knows the intricacies I think I do, but then
ill I even find myself and like, hey, what are
they actually doing right here? And he'll just literally break
it down. So it's been super fun to do that.
But yeah, he'll be a blast to talk to. Do
you joke with.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Your brother about the Tom Brady wanting to be a
Raider and then yelling at the Raiders that you're going
to keep him over me?
Speaker 7 (29:48):
Yeah, there's some things that we joke about.
Speaker 13 (29:50):
Okay, probably don't need to be aunty, so you go
feel free, man, feel free to what he says. But look,
it's so funny because like literally the same day that
even like the last couple of days of that stuff
has kind of research, He's on the phone with Mark Davis, Like,
so Mark is just he wants a good team, he
wants a good product. He wants someone in the building
like that's why Tom's did right now. He wants a
guy that can kind of push this football thing forward.
He knows he's a smart he's a smart guy, Like
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he understands that he doesn't have all the answers.
Speaker 7 (30:13):
So yeah, it's it's it's a good time, man, Oh
my good time.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
When you know everybody wanted to know, well, what guy's
he talking about? What team is Brady talking about? And
you know how Brady you know, oh yeah, he's just
you know, tough guy. You're going to keep that bleep,
you know sure?
Speaker 13 (30:28):
I mean, I mean every quarterback feels that way, like
you absolutely If you don't feel that way, then I
mean that's why he's considered one of the greatest quarterbacks ever,
if not the greatest, like because he has that competitive spirit, like, yeah,
I can absolutely come in and do that job. Bro, Dan,
I feel like I can go out there right now.
I absolutely cannot and take half these guys jobs. I
cannot do it. Just for the record, You're not better
than Flacco, absolutely not. First of all, the guys the
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size of this wall, Like he's six eight and he
feels completely healthy.
Speaker 7 (30:55):
I have a bad hit, so.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
He's yeah, he's got Roethlisberger could probably still play one
hundred percent.
Speaker 13 (31:01):
Like there's I haven't seen Roethlisberger's shape like recently.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
Was big. I don't know if he was having.
Speaker 13 (31:09):
Big and big and big for a while. It is
a different thing, you know, like big in football. I
remember talking to Ben. He might hate me for telling
the story, but we had the lock out and we
ended up playing them in the preseason, and so this
was after everyone. No one has been doing anything. Really,
We've been trying. We were in the building. We're trying
to go put workouts together. Ben said, Dave, I haven't
put on cleats since Christmas and this is August. So
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I'm like, so Ben's been out for a while. What's
what's he like right now?
Speaker 7 (31:35):
I don't know, Dan, I don't know. Three hundred possibly
pushing it, yeah, possibly pushing it. Yeah, big dude, I'm concerned.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
Great great stories, great appearance. Thanks for joining us, oh Man.
Speaker 7 (31:46):
I always enjoyed it.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
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Speaker 2 (32:00):
Mark Sanchez, he called the Broncos Week one win over
the Titans. He's got the seahauwnks at the Steelers coming
up at one Eastern Sunday on Fox. Good to see
you again. What's the biggest concern from Week one, either
player or team or coach than you have.
Speaker 5 (32:19):
Well from our games? Specifically, Wait twenty second could be
a full six to two and a quarter to forty two. Okay,
let's see Broncos game. Who Bonick struggle. He really did,
and I don't think it's catastrophic. I don't think it's
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the end of the world for those guys. But he
just didn't look as sharp as I thought everybody expected,
and the defense bailed him out big time. I've been there.
I know what that feels like. You know, after you
go to the playoffs, your rookie year, coming back that
next year, expectations are just sky high. So we laid
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an egg our first game. My second year got sumped
by the Ravens, and it felt like the walls are
closing in sky's falling. Everything's horrible, but at least they
got the win. So I'd rather him learn those lessons
with a w then have to go through all that
film and digest all that with a loss. That would
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have been tough. At home, that would have been really tough.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Our rookie quarterbacks still making the same mistakes, whether it
was ten years ago, fifteen years ago, I think so.
Speaker 5 (33:41):
I think like in our game, specifically, you know cam Ward,
it's a back and forth game, defensive battle, and at
one point I want to say, it was like nine
to six or ten to nine or something like that,
and they get this turnover, a total gift, a muff
punt and he takes two sacks, knocks him out of
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field goal range. They punt and you lose the points,
You lose the momentum, you get a chance to go,
you know, to go up, take the lead for the
first time in the game. And it's stuff like that.
Like I know, from the booth it's easy to say,
and from here it's easy to say. But if I
was coaching those guys, it might be one of those
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situations where you grab him by the face mask and say, hey,
we're inside the thirty. We do not end this down
or end this drive with anything less than three points.
I don't care if you catch the ball and throw
it in the stands three times, it doesn't matter. We
need the points, you know what I mean. And if
you can relate that to a young kid, because they're
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just in the moment, feeling the emotions ceiling. It was
interesting talking to Vance Joseph before the game, the defense
coordinator for the Broncos. I think he's gonna be a
head CoA by the way, pretty soon.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
Again.
Speaker 5 (35:03):
But he just said, I don't want this kid to
see the ball go in the hoop. I want to
blur the screen with our speed. I want them to
feel our rush. I want to bat balls at the
line of scrimmage. I just don't want them to get comfortable.
I want them to hold it and just create indecision
for that long and we'll do the rest. It's exactly
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what they did. And in a situation like that, all
young quarterbacks you screw up. You you try and do
too much. You try and get out of trouble, and
pretty soon you lose fifteen yards. Now we're out of
field goal range. So that was a tough stretch.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
What did you hear in the pocket when you were
back to pass?
Speaker 2 (35:44):
It's quiet, but there's noise around you, but your blocking noise.
Speaker 5 (35:53):
Yeah, you don't, Oh, such a good question. You just
get so used to the quiet. It's kind of like
a like a dull roar over the top. The one
thing I will say is what I learned kind of
early on, is if you're at home and sometimes you
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get rid of the ball and you throw it, it
leaves your hand and you don't see the guy catch
it because you get hit. So you're laying on your back,
staring at the ceiling or the sky. And if you're
at home and you hear a big cheer, you can
get up slow. If you're at home and you hear it, oh,
you're like, oh boy, I got to make a tackle.
(36:34):
And then it flips on the road. You know, if
you cut that ball loose and you're staring at the
ceiling and the crowd goes nuts, you're like, oh, dude,
I got to go make a tackle.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Have you broken down Aaron Rodgers' performance against the Jets yet?
Speaker 3 (36:50):
WHOA?
Speaker 5 (36:50):
That was impressive. Well, one of the one of the touchdowns.
I mean he threw four in the stats, right, but
one of them was a little you know, jet sweep
out of the gun where you just flip it to
the guy. So he looked, he looked impressive.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
Man.
Speaker 5 (37:06):
He had a little bounce in his step the first touchdown.
The role to the right that he throws, it's essentially
a naked and I mean that thing was a missile. Man.
He looked, He looked great. And is that just week one?
Is that you know full recovery from the achilles? Is
(37:27):
that added juice because it's the Jets and he wanted
to embarrass him. Maybe a little everything, but I was
I was thoroughly impressed. He looks good.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Yeah, I didn't know if he could make that signature
role right and zip it like he did throughout his career.
I thought maybe he's more of a pocket pouncer. But
it feels like he came in this way, he's going
out this way with you know, that that mobility, and
I don't.
Speaker 5 (37:53):
Think he's quite as mobile obviously as he was, but
he's mobile enough to do stuff like that. But like
in the pocket he was. You know, Romo doesn't get
enough credit for extending plays. Rogers doesn't get enough credit
for extending plays because you have guys like Josh Allen
and Lamar Jackson and designed quarterback runs. But these guys
(38:14):
were like elite athletes at the quarterback position. And the
way he could hit his back foot and kind of
get that like low lean forward and then just go
navigate the pocket and then step up and rifle something
down the field. I mean, nobody can do what he does.
And it's a I mean the guy changed his full
throwing motion, you know, a few years into his career
(38:37):
because his knee was bugging him, and then he started
that like jump throw that cam Ward and all these
kids are doing. Everybody off platform two feet in the
air launching the ball. You would never ever teach a
kid to do that ever, It's too hard. It takes
too much coordination, it takes too much trunk rotation, it
(38:57):
takes too much of the rest your arm and everything
being perfect as you release the ball. It's so hard
to do it, and he does it with little effort,
it seems.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
But you have these younger quarterbacks now who they idolized
Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
Yeah, like that.
Speaker 5 (39:16):
Well, Matthew's like one of the best pocket passers number one.
But mechanics wise, he's only gotten better his whole career.
And he came in solid, just nice ball carriage, great feet,
can throw it off his back foot, has plenty of
juice in his arm, and you know the stuff to
(39:38):
the left, like he takes the cheat step slightly to
the right and drifts just to open enough so he
never leaves anything to left inside and then it goes
the other way like he's he's one of the best
mechanically and you know as a competitor, arm strength, all that,
he's he's got it all.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
Yeah, it surprised me because it's almost like younger players
look up to Paul George in the NBA and I
go Paul George, and you know, like for a different
generation they looked up to Paul George and then you
get Caleb Williams and c J.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
Stroud and they're like, man, man their Stafford's the man.
Speaker 5 (40:13):
And I'm like, he's incredible.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
He takes a beating.
Speaker 5 (40:18):
Well, he dropped back that many times. Every once in
a while, they're gonna they're gonna get you. But how
about my guy, Caleb Man, I.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
Don't know, Oh you tell me. I mean first or
second half?
Speaker 5 (40:31):
Yeah, it's I don't know. It's it seemed like he
reverted to some of those bad habits. And you know,
the good place aren't just good, they're incredible. They're you know,
top ten, highlight reel good, and then the bad ones.
You're like, how do we miss that throw? You know,
(40:52):
how do we ah? What is it? What do we
what are we missing here? And I mean you saw
a speed when he decided to actually run on one
of them. Oh my god, he's way faster than you think.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
But can you be objective when you're talking about him
because you know, I know because the USC Yeah.
Speaker 5 (41:14):
Yeah, I mean listen, I I gotta call it how
I see it.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
And what concerns you then that that?
Speaker 2 (41:23):
I mean, you got the best offensive head coach, you know,
play caller. I mean you got you got what you need,
you got weapons, you got an offensive line that's improved.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
What's missing here.
Speaker 5 (41:36):
A couple of those throws. I mean, you just got
to hit a couple of those throws. I don't know
if it's the front foot. So like if you're a
right handed quarterback, your front left toe, your left big toe,
the ball is going to go right off that big
toe wherever, wherever you point it, that's where the ball's going.
So it's natural for right handers on an inbreaking route
(41:58):
from right to left. So like a slant route on
the right handed thrower's right side breaking to the left
to leave the ball to the right behind the guy right,
it's natural for the guy going the opposite direction to
throw it in front of him. He was like all
over the place. I'm both and you know a couple
(42:19):
of scenarios where guys were open. You know, you saw
DJ Moore the one in the in the end zone
to the left side. So that's kind of like you know,
the little red thing on your mailbox. It's up you
check the mail, Yeah, the little flag. Yeah, that's like
DJ just broke off his route and threw his hand
(42:41):
out because nobody was there. That's like, you know, if
you're a veteran receiver and you're really Randy Moss used
to do it all the time. He just throw his
hand up and then oh, it's a go ball, all right,
red flag, check the mail and launch it. And it
landed ten yards out of bounds, and you're like, oh man,
you know, like those ones you're just I don't know
(43:02):
if it's just an excitement or but sometimes the ball
just jumps out of his hand and it's you know,
completely out of whack. And then the other ones that
are you know, they got to be perfect, I mean
their money, you know, and and it's it's just an
inconsistency right now, and so hopefully it's you know, first
(43:22):
game jitters or something, and and they correct it, because
you know, I'm obviously rooting for him, but yeah, it
wasn't it wasn't his best game. It was inconsistent. He
started hot and then it looked like a little bit
like last year.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
He's one of those quarterbacks or players that I would
call the red zone player. When you're watching the red zone,
they show you highlights, but if you watch the totality
of a game, that's when you realize that, right, maybe
he might have had four, you know, great moments, it
was all the other ones.
Speaker 3 (43:54):
So there's certain players. Kyler Murray would be like that.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
I'm like, damn, he's having a great game, and then
all of a sudden you look at his stats and
you go, oh, well, he only had three other completions.
Speaker 3 (44:04):
There certain guys like that.
Speaker 5 (44:06):
Sure.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
Justin Herbert was on the show prior to the start
of the season and I said, why don't you do
kind of what Josh Allen's doing. Why don't you make
put pressure on defenses by running, because we've seen him
run in college the Rose Bull.
Speaker 3 (44:22):
He was wonderful. And then we started to see.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
Now, I don't know if this is going to be
something that's in the playbook, but he did use his
legs in that game against the Chiefs a lot more
than I think we've seen before.
Speaker 5 (44:34):
Oh he looked great. He I think he's not going
to do the runs, so sorry, my dog's john us.
All right, He's not gonna do as many designed runs,
but I think when he can extend plays, and then
you see him get outside, when Chris Jones took the
inside path and he feels that open edge, the dude's gone.
(44:58):
He's got a long stridelink. I mean, he looks like
a gazelle when he runs and he covers a ton
of ground and it looks effortless. It's just you know,
get down, get out of bounds, that kind of deal.
But he's he's better than people give him credit for.
You know, I really do think that. And I don't
think he's completely realized his potential. I don't think he's
(45:21):
played the way that game the other night. They lose
that the last three four years, Yeah, hands down, no
doubt about it. And it looked like they were going
to lose again. It's like, oh man, they were closed,
but here we go. This is kind of kind of
what we're expecting. And he completely flipped the script and
just owned it. And I just I really think he's
(45:45):
he's one of those special players that that's just waiting
for that opportunity, and he hit the big one. They
got three Division games out of the out of the
blocks here, they got the Raiders on Monday night coming up,
and then I want to say that, I think the
Broncos after that. Yeah, so that's a grueling schedule. The
AFC West is legit and all those all those games
(46:08):
are a street fight. Everybody wants to run the ball.
Har ball, Carol, you know the Chiefs want to run
the ball, everybody. And it's I's seen me a good division.
Whoever comes out of there might make a little noise.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
But when did we get away from the run that
now we're coming back to the run?
Speaker 5 (46:28):
I think, I don't know, it feels like the last
five seasons it's turned into a little bit like seven
on seven and you know, you got to throw it
fifty times. I feel like, you know, the way defenses
have really shifted. Other than a couple of coordinators in
the league, a lot of teams are adopting that kind
(46:48):
of blanket umbrella coverage. Ben don't break mentality. We'll throw
a couple of pressures here and there, some simulated pressures,
but we're not going to get caught, and we're going
to force you to go fifteen plays, you know, convert
three third and fives, third and nine, third and twelve, Like,
we're gonna make you do that, and I guarantee you're
(47:09):
gonna screw it up before our defense test. You're gonna
give us a cheap one. Somebody's gonna fumble, you're gonna
get a holding. You're either punting or were taking the
ball away. So I feel like once that started to
happen and teams started to back up a little bit,
it's a natural reaction to just turn around, hand the
ball to somebody and let them go, you know, hound
the defense, force them to bring that guy in the box,
(47:29):
and then we'll get creative.
Speaker 11 (47:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:31):
I thought at one point somebody was gonna be we're
going to be a run first team because defenses were
all quick, guys were smaller, and I thought, man, why
don't you go you'll have a counter attack and just
say we're just gonna ram it down your throat because
you're not gonna get bigger in the offense. You know,
we're we're gonna be built to beat you guys, because
(47:53):
everybody was, you know, but the Bengals went all air
attack here.
Speaker 5 (47:58):
I remember going to call a game and since he
probably two years ago, but I mean, they throw up
more than anybody. And I asked Zach Taylor, I said, hey,
are those old linemen ever gonna just start a mutiny?
And he goes why, I said, since they got to
pass that all game? Man? I said, are you ever
going to hand the rock? What's the deal? And he's like,
(48:20):
come on, that's we got to give it to our
best player, number nine in the offense runs through number nine,
and I said, hey, Joe Mixon is pretty good too,
you know, yeah, you can you can run it. So
it was it was funny just messing with him a
little bit.
Speaker 3 (48:33):
Gonna have that change up, man.
Speaker 2 (48:34):
Uh. Mark will be calling the Seahawks at the Steelers
one Eastern and it'll be on Fox. Great to talk
to you again. Hope the family exscontiates you guys. Thanks
for joining us, sir, Thank you, Mark Sanchez
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