September 11, 2025 • 42 mins
DP recaps the Bengals' ugly Week 1 win over the Browns. 4x Pro Bowl QB Derek Carr opens up on turning down $30 million and retiring this year, and shares what life after football has been like. "First Things First" host Nick Wright eyes the Lions as a possible early disappointment and believes the Chiefs can overcome their Week 1 loss.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
An early hand raised from Seaton.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
Yes, Ston, what if there's a little bit of a
calling here or possibly a movement, grassroots movement for a
Thursday steak and eggs situation?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Maybe regularly?
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Okay, maybe we even throw it earlier in the week
if you want to, so you don't go back to
back for the Thursday steak and eggs Friday meet Friday.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
He probably could have conferred with me off the air.
He kind of put me on the spot. It just happened.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Whilst on the air. We just had to get right
on this.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
So you couldn't have written it down to say speak
to Dan after.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
No, Okay, I'd rather just do it this way.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Okay. By the way, Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelcey have
a steakhouse in Kansas City that's opening up. I don't
know if they're using Heartland, but they should. It's fifteen
eighty seven. Nick Wright's going to join us a little
later on. Nick is going to the soft opening there.
How about this question. You can sit at Patrick Holmes
(01:00):
his table, or you can sit at Travis Kelsey's table.
Steak dinner and they're gonna bring their significant others. Oh yeah,
I mean it's a no brainer. You sit with Kelsey,
that's all I mean. Mahomes, Hey, Patrick, good to see you. Kelsey.
Tell me that story again, you know the time that
(01:22):
you and your brother went out. Yeah, yes, see.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
I think I would sit with Kelsey and act like
I didn't know who Taylor.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Was, Like, so what do you do? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:32):
So what do you do?
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Your singer? Oh?
Speaker 3 (01:34):
No, kidding, that's awesome. Anything I know anybody who could sing.
Speaker 5 (01:38):
For a living.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
I'm just really impressed with that. Do you like locally or.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Are you a singer songwriter? Do you play guitar? You
play guitar.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
It's not like cover band, tribute band. Yeah, it's your
own originals.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
Oh great? Just do you have enough songs to make
a concert?
Speaker 6 (01:52):
How many songs do you have out there?
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Sah?
Speaker 6 (01:53):
Should I be familiar with?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Okay? Is anybody sitting with Mahomes if you go to
the steak house? Yeah, PAULI I think I've said.
Speaker 7 (02:00):
With Mahomes because I don't think I could relax and
be a good conversationalist with Taylor Swift at the table.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
I think I would with Yeah, but you don't have
to say anything. You can just acknowledge her and kind
of just make her catch up with you with your
conversation with Travis Kelcey. Oh yeah, make her jump in
just a little bit. We got football tonight. This is
one of those perception There's a couple of perception games
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coming up this week. This is the first one with
the Commanders going to green Bay. Green Bay, great performance
Week one. You beat the Lions. Now if you beat
another playoff team now, all of a sudden, depending on
what happens with the Eagles, now, we'll look at the
Packers as the team to beat in the NFC. It
happens that quickly. What if the Chiefs lose, they're underdogs.
(02:51):
I think Mahomes is the second time in his career
he's been an underdog at home. If the Chiefs lose
again once again, wise maybe this is the year that
they don't make the playoffs. And if the Eagles, if
the Eagles lose, I think will be okay. You know,
that's a tough place to go in and play after
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the opener, everything that's happened with Jalen Carter, they didn't
play particularly well, but you ended up getting to win
in going to Kansas City now, But you start to
look at these games and you go, do we know
how good Detroit is? We think we know, And with
Kansas City we think we know. There's other ones that,
(03:35):
oh we do know. Green Bay looks like we do know.
I don't know about the Commanders. I love the story.
I don't know Chargers, I don't know Steelers, I don't know.
Like most of the teams, I don't know, like the Bengals.
That's one of the worst wins in NFL history. Do
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we have a list of worst wins in NFL history?
I wish seven yards in the second half. And I
want to bring this up to both Nick Wright and
Derek Carr. There are certain teams that we want to know.
How you won the game. It's not that you won
the game. Patriots did this. There was a while where
we'd go in it barely squeaked by, but they won
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Kansas City, didn't you know? For me, it was just
they won. May not be pretty, but they won. But
like the Bengals, they're on my short list of teams
that I'm watching. How you win a game? Now, I'm
gonna give them credit. They finally got out of the
gate and won a game in Week one, But you're
playing a Browns team that I mean, the offense and
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defense didn't look that good and this is supposed to
be the most potent offense in the NFL. It's how
they win games that I'm going to be curious about. Buffalo,
how do you win these games? Are you going to
have a defense? Are you going to be in shootouts
all year long? The Ravens, how are you winning games?
Are you building up big leads and then holding on
(05:05):
for dear life? So there's certain one Philadelphia. I'm I'm
past the style points just did they win the game,
But there are certain teams where I'm looking to see
how did you win that game instead of just you
won the game? Eight seven, seven to three DP show
email address DP at Danpatrick dot com, Twitter handle at
(05:26):
dp show, Brock Purty likely out. You got George Kettle
who is definitely out, and Mac Jones come on down.
Here's Kyle Shanahan, the Niners head coach, on his quarterback situation.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
Any further sense about whether brought will be able to
play on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
I dance a long shot.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Well, Party's injury could be a multi week thing, and
that's the toe more so in the shoulder.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Yes, get some almost up on his foot in the pocket.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
Do you know how the toe injury happened.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
I think it happened on scram one.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
I think when I'm love tackle him by the sideline.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
I believe it happened we.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Just playing through that in the game, or it is
just something you found out later now was where? Yeah,
well that doesn't sound good. And if it's a there's
certain injuries that stay with you that they really never
heal over the course of a season, just because of
how you play. Just the sport itself. A sprained ankle
feels like it's, you know, always going to be there.
(06:25):
It'll heal, but all it takes is one little twist,
tweak and then it's back again. Shoulder injury that can
stay with you, A toe injury, I mean unless you're
not walking at all or running at all, then maybe
it'll heal. But that is an ominous start for the Niners. Yes, Paul,
you guys.
Speaker 7 (06:45):
Pretty curious about Mac Jones with the Niners.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
I knew that they liked him coming out of the draft.
Speaker 7 (06:52):
Yeah, he his rookie year ten and seven is the starter,
twenty two touchdowns, second for Offensive Rookie of the Year,
and it just off the next two years. He showed
a lot of promise.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Yes, I think in that now when they have all
their weapons. They don't have all their weapons, but I
think when they have their weapons, Mac Jones is a
capable quarterback. That doesn't sound like a compl Hey what
did Dan Patrick? How did he describe me? Capable?
Speaker 3 (07:22):
How about a guy who could win you ballgames? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (07:26):
Oh your voice went out.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Oh my pad. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Yes, at one point he showed the ability to play
at this level.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Yeah he did.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Yeah, when he had a real offensive coordinator, he absolutely
showed that he could play at this level. And then
when you took that away, he didn't.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
And then he was in Jacksonville. I mean what happened
to him was malpractice with the Patriots. I mean they
didn't they didn't give him a chance. Now, can he
do the same thing that Sam Darnold did and get
kicked to the curb a couple of places and all
of a sudden, maybe you get to play play your
way back into just like Sam Darnold. And you know,
(08:06):
we got that one year deal with Seattle. But yeah,
I'm fine with Mac Jones. Yeah, yes, Marvin.
Speaker 6 (08:13):
Is Robert style of running the offense. No, okay, good, Yeah,
because the Patriots defensive coordinator was running the Patriots' offense.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Still amazing.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
I can't believe that.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Still amazing. By the way, the Commanders are getting three
and a half against the Packers and the over unders
forty eight and a half Seaton. What's poll question today?
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Well, we're definitely going with whose table would you sit at?
Knatricks or Travis? Yes, yeah, currently the hottest bandwagon right now, Chargers,
Commander's Packers, other.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Buccaneers might be on there. Yeah, Yeah, there's a lot.
There's an outpouring of support love for Tampa Bay. Back
to a couple of guys have them going to the
Super Bowl and that Owen two stat I mean, if
you buy into it. Since the merger, since nineteen seventy
(09:07):
AFC NFC merger, eight teams have started out oh to
two and made the conference championship game. Last time it
happened the Bengals twenty fourteen, Colts, the Giants in seven,
Eagles and three Pats in one, Jets in nineteen ninety eight,
Patriots nineteen ninety six, and the Cowboys nineteen ninety three.
(09:30):
There is something to that with Kansas City. It feels
like the first four games, you're gonna figure it out.
I have complete trust in them. Now we keep doing now.
We did this to Brady almost a year in a
year out, like, uh, who's my running back? Who are
my wide receivers? Okay, I'll make the best of it.
(09:53):
And Patrick Mahomes has done you know, no Tyreek Hill,
Kelsey's slowing down. You got players who are injured, suspended.
You know, it's not a vaunted offense anymore. But Mahomes
changed the NFL because when he's throwing you know, upwards
of fifty touchdown passes, then all of a sudden, defense
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is decided. Everything is going to be kept in front
of them. We're going to play deep, and we're going
to make you go down the field. We're going to
make you work. And David Carr talked about this yesterday.
He said, if I'm a defensive coordinator, what I want
you to do is put together a fifteen play drive.
Let me see if you get first downs on third
and eight, or maybe there's a turnover, or maybe we
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force you into a punt. You know, Kansas City was
able to have big scoring plays, long scoring plays, and
then defenses just said, hey, how deep do we need
to be to keep everything in front of us? And
that's why Mahomes's numbers have been kind of pedestrian during
the regular season. It's not that he's not as good
as he wants was, he just doesn't have those opportunities.
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And that's why Isaiah Pacheco is so important because running
the football, getting and even Mahomes, he was their leading
rusher against the Chargers. And now do I like him
running as much as he did in that first game.
I don't, but that might be out of necessity. All right.
So Thursday night football Fritzy has come up with a menu.
(11:24):
I said, could you come up with a menu of
the Travis Kelce Patrick Mahomes restaurant the fifteen eighty seven
they're Jersey numbers. We'll have that after the break time.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
We will do that.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
How many items on the menu?
Speaker 3 (11:39):
I have sixteen items.
Speaker 6 (11:40):
We can bang them.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Up real quick.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
I think they're fun.
Speaker 6 (11:42):
Okay, possible menu suggested items for the fifteen eighty seven
primes taking.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
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By the way, if you want to take me up
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(12:11):
All right, So Heartland steakco dot com. Great stuff. All right, Well,
take a break. We're just getting started on this Thursday.
We're back after this.
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Speaker 2 (13:10):
From Derek Carr, former NFL quarterback and now a YouTube
sensation pre and postgame studio analysts along with Brandon Marshall
and Tyron Matthew and they did the Chiefs Chargers. Hey,
the reviews were really good. How comfortable did you feel
as an analyst?
Speaker 5 (13:30):
You know, it's funny, it was just easy because I
got to break down film. I was like, I've been
doing this for twenty years, and so I was like,
don't make me get on here and talk a whole bunch.
Let me let me do let me do some film.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
But you know that's the thing, breaking it down. But
then you're able to give it to us so we
understand what's going on because your language, quarterbacks language and terminology.
Like sometimes even your brother yesterday when we had him on,
he's telling me things. I go, I'm not even going
to interrupt. I have no idea what he's talking about.
Speaker 5 (14:01):
One hundred percent, and so I've always I always just
try and keep it simple. Yes, I could get into
so many details and hours of breakdown and all this
kind of stuff, but for me, it was just like,
how do I make it entertaining? And I learned from
the best Coach Gruden was like that every day, and
so the way he would present film and present information,
he's the best presenter of information I was ever around.
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So I just tried to, you know, mimic what he
did and it kind of worked out.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
What stood out when you broke down the Chiefs Chargers,
you know what really.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
Stood out to me was was Herbert Like every time
I would watch it because I know the Chiefs defense,
I know Pat Pat is one of the greatest to
ever play the game. It's really fun to watch what
they've been able to do, whether people are hurt or
not hurt. But when I watch Herbert, he's been so consistent,
and I know that feeling where you're on you're on
a team that keep switching coaches on you, that keep
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doing this. It reminds me of when I got when
coach Gruden showed up, and I hope that they get
to stay together longer than I got to stay with
grew because we were starting to take off. And so
when I watch him, he's just so consistent, so accurate,
and he's so tall, he sees everything and so he's
rarely fooled, which is really really a luxury.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
You start to look at these quarterbacks, and we see
young quarterbacks make the same mistakes because in college you
get to hold onto the ball a little longer. Players
stay open a little bit longer. There they try to
scramble out of trouble there. Why why is that that
they keep it? You know it's new quarterbacks, but it's
the same mistakes.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
There's no there's no recipe for you know, you can
I'll say this one. You can train him as much
you want. When you have a red jersey on during
OTA's and training camp and all that. It gets a
little different when you get to practice or the real games.
You know that. It's just there's no substitute for experience.
And so I saw, you know, we saw cam Ward
take a red zone sack and then get sacked again,
and he's trying to outrun people. I mean, you find
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out real quick that the defensive tackles are faster than you,
you know, and so you know it's tough, man, And
like you said, you hit it on the head. The
game is so fast, so it doesn't matter what level
of college you play. The speed of the game four quarterbacks.
It just happens faster. But you know, like like you said,
it takes guys hopefully a shorter amount of time because
our our leash with quarterbacks nowadays is so short. It's
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not like the old days where they give you time
to grow and all that. But hopefully these guys can
figure it out soon. And it looks like they will.
It looks like a good batch of young guys.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
But you know, they talk about climbing up in the
pocket and and that takes like you got to have
guts like it, you know, because it's chaos around you.
But these guys don't want to climb up in the pocket.
They want to try to dance around and get out
of trouble. But what is that feeling like? I mean,
that's the ultimate. I'm trusting my offensive lineman that I
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won't get crushed one.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
I remember there was a year we started two rookie
tackles and in the NFL, that's a that's a that's
a big deal. And I remember Gruden said to me,
he said, look, it's gonna be it's gonna be rough.
But when you hit that back foot, I want you
to climb. I want you to find a completion and
in it, man, it trained me in such a way
that you have to hit that back foot. You just
got to make a decision really as a man, say
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I'm going forward, you know, because everything that we've been
instilled in us is like, if something's coming at me,
I got to get away from it. But you got
to go forward, you gotta climb. And you know, for
me that was one of the biggest learning moments was
playing with two young tackles, you know, the teaching them, hey,
let them run by lose one way, just don't lose inside.
And we were able to figure it out.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
I didn't know you did a John Gruden impersonation.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
Honestly, everybody on those teams on offense can do it.
Foster Moreau, Waller Hunter where everyone has a little maybe
we don't match it perfectly, but the tone, the cadence,
like we can all hit one part of it identically.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
What's the tone that you hit?
Speaker 5 (17:46):
Oh Man, For me, it was always he would always
look at me, so you'll love this. Dan, We're in
a meeting and he would always tell me, Derek, I
want completions. I want completions. I want completions. So we're
in a team meeting and he says, eight, Car, I
want them what And I said and want completions? He goes, no,
I want communication, idiot.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Idiot, idiot.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
That was great.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Derek and David Carr have a new podcast called Homegrown
features both of the brothers discussing NFL college, high school
football for me quarterbacks perspective. He said that he had
fun with you about the Brady coming through Las Vegas
to want to play for the Raiders and singling you
out of you're gonna stay with this guy? Did you
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have fun with that?
Speaker 5 (18:35):
Oh? I did, And I'd be completely honest, Dan, I had.
I had about one hundred different funny things to say.
I couldn't help myself. But I just felt like when
I woke up this morning, like it just hit me,
like with everything that happened yesterday, not to get weird,
I was like, man, it's not even worth saying any
of them. Man, I just want to love them. You know.
I could make a zinger and be funny about it,
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but like you know, I just with everything have me yesterday,
it's just on my heart just to love everybody, no
matter or what you know. And and I have none
but love for Tom. He knows that. You know, we've talked,
you know, many times. So, uh, we did have fun though,
we did as brothers, do you know with those kind
of things. Uh, But yeah, man, I just I just
love on him, you know, because I already knew I'd
make some joke and someone wouldn't put the whole context
(19:17):
on it, and it'd be a thing. But you know,
it is what it is.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
We want to come up with a stat RCI receiver
caused interception, yes, right, because not all interceptions are made
the same way.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
One, you know, and you would have to put a
quarterback in charge of that because you know, there there
are times that it is our fault, absolutely, and but
there are times where you throw a shallow cross it
bounces off someone's hands and you're like, what the heck?
I remember? I remember I threw a pick. It was
man coverage. The receiver didn't see it, you know, and
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he stops and I go to throw the shallow cross
like it's man in the corner, keeps running and picks
it off, and I was like, it's ah, man, you
got to keep running, you know. But no one knew,
and obviously you get booed in all those kind of things,
which is fine.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
How do you walk away from thirty million dollars?
Speaker 5 (20:06):
Oh my goodness. It wasn't easy, I promise you know.
Uh it's easy to make a comment and just say yeah,
it is what it is. But it wasn't. It was hard.
It was really when you talk to your wife, Yeah,
when I when when I talked to my wife, you know,
she she was, she was ready for me to be
done whenever I was ready. You know that. She's amazing.
She would she she saw, honestly, things that no one
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else saw, you know, waking up on Monday mornings and
I can't walk, you know, waking up on Monday mornings
and I have to call her to come in the
room to help me get out of bed. You know. Like,
so she she was done. She was, she was like,
I'm good. You know, eleven years is enough. But for
me as a competitor and my love, Honestly, Dan, I
love the game so much. I just love football. I
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think it's great for character. I think it's great for everybody.
I think it's team, it's unity, it's all the things
I believe in. But to say no to the money
part of it, I had to. I had to die
to myself on that one, you know, like I had
to be like, you know, what is what's the right
thing to do all that, because on the inside you're like,
well it's easy, I just make that money and go.
But it just wasn't right because I wasn't ready.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
What's it like to be home this time of the year.
Speaker 5 (21:13):
It's been really weird. You know, Wednesdays in the NFL
are the longest days, and for a quarterback is really
every day. But you know, Wednesdays, I'm going on dates
with my wife. She said, you want to go on
the day. He's like, yeah, let's go. It's Wednesday, you know,
And that's that's a that's a first for us in
a long time. And so it's been fun. Though. I
laid on my couch and my agent text me. He's like,
how you feeling. I said, I feel great. I'm not
getting hit.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
So it was good, okay, but will there be a temptation?
Speaker 5 (21:37):
Yeah? You know who my biggest temptation is is David.
Every every single day he's like, text me, you see this,
you see this, you know this? You know this guy? Hey,
guess who texts me? You know, he doesn't he doesn't
he said, So we're gonna sit down. I said. He said,
we're gonna sit down and Thanksgiving. I said, bro, I'm retired.
He said, at least give me Thanksgiving to try and
convince you. So he's he's the biggest one.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
There's no scenario where you'd come back.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
I wouldn't say never, because I've learned that when I
say never, it usually happens. And I think we've all
probably learned that. So for me, right now, I'm training
because I love to train, like that's gonna be the
rest of my life. I love to train. I throw
football every now and then out in the front with
my kids and into my buddy, you know, for fun,
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because it's part of my rehab still for my shoulder.
You know, I'm still just trying to get that back
right from getting the shot and doing the rehab and
all that, and so I'm still doing those things. And
so I always felt like even though I'm done, like,
you know, if God wanted me to do it, I
got to be ready, you know. I don't want to
go out there and not be ready, you know. So
I'll be ready, but I'm not coming back, like like
right now today, I'm not coming back.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
You're only thirty four.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
I am thirty four. I got a lot of life,
and I got a big job. I got coach the
fourth through sixth grade Clovis Christian Warriors, you know what
I mean. So I'm committed to them right now.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Are looking this year, Derek?
Speaker 5 (22:58):
They're doing good. I'm out there yelling at my kids.
He play. One of them plays quarterback, the other plays receiver.
So I imitate Groodon a lot to them, for sure.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
The two quarterbacks tonight. Break them down from what you've seen.
Speaker 5 (23:11):
You know, I'm really interested. This is the this is
what it's gonna come down to. Thursday night football, right,
Thursday night football to me has always been the test
of who can get the healthiest and who can take
care of the football. And I think both can and
if I'm honest, like I truly believe in them, and
so I feel like it always comes down to a
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receiver or a tight end in my experience, I'll never forget.
You call it play and you you thought it was
last week's play, but you get you get it screwed up.
And it's those little details. Treatment talks about all the time.
On Monday Night, He's like, it's those little details that
no one else will see. If they can take care
of the football, that's the only chance that they have
because in Thursday night football, there's there's it's usually a mess.
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I think we've all seen that as players. We hated Thursdays,
but you know, it is what it is.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
But have you ever gone to the line of scrimmage
and called a play that was from the previous team
that you were with?
Speaker 5 (24:09):
Oh, especially right when you first like get into it,
like I promise you, Like you get in the huddle
and you're like, hey, we're gonna go, you know, let's
go dice right, three fifty eight cannon cannas and then
you're like hey, and then you say like on the quick,
and everyone's like, everyone will look at you, like what
do you mean? On the quick? You know, it's like, oh, sorry,
wrong offense, wrong offense, especially on a Thursday, because it's
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all cramed in your mind. Luckily, for Luckily, for Jaden
and Jordan, this is the only offense.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Is that they know, and so they'll be Okay, did
Peyton ruin it? For all quarterbacks? Because now everybody's expected
to go to the line of scrimmage and you know,
change the play, call the play.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
You know, when I watched Peyton, that's who I wanted
to be, honestly, like I Peyton knows this. I used
to go to the stadium early when my brother would
play him, and I would watch him throw Tomorrow and
Reggie and Dallash Clark and those guys, and like, growing up,
I thought, I still believe that's the best way to
play football. The coach. The coach is making estimated guests
based on study and film and what they know about
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these people at the defense corners. But the quarterback gets
to see the tests right in front of it. So
if you can train the quarterback that way. So did
he ruin it? I wouldn't say he ruined it, but
that's how the game I believe is supposed to be played.
But now with the CBA, these coaches don't even have
time to teach the game like we did. Like it's
just it's so different. So now it's just flashcards. Hey,
remember this flash card and go do it at the
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best of your ability.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Good luck with the YouTube stuff, good luck with the
podcast with your brother, and good luck in retirement.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
Oh thank you, Dan, I appreciate It's always good to
talk to you.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
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Speaker 2 (25:57):
Our good buddy Nick Wright, host of First Things First
on Fox Sports one and What's Right with Nick right
on YouTube wherever you get your podcast, Going to be
on the road, going to Kansas City. Going to do
the show on Friday from Kansas City. Good to see
Nick again. Are we entering must win situation time this weekend.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
For Philly because the Chiefs are down their top two weapons.
Maybe it'd be really embarrassing for the Eagles with the NFL,
you know, having the first ever suspension where you get
to play and the Chiefs are down their top two guys.
And the last time Philly was in Kansas City, Nick
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Sirianni walked off the field, mother fing the fans to
lose that game against the Chiefs team that listen, I'm
just a blind, dopey homer, but everyone that can see
clearly obviously has seen. You know, the league is passed
Kansas City by now. It was just two games ago
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that the Chiefs were playing for an opportunity to be
the greatest team in the history of the sport. But
a lot's changed in those two games. So yeah, I
mean it'd be mortifying, especially after how Philly looked in
Week one.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Yeah, they better win, but more must win Lions or
the Chiefs.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Oh lot.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
So here's I'm glad you brought that up because I think,
tell me, using this fair, there were five teams going
into the season that everyone thought were going to be good.
Again Bill's Ravens, Chiefs, Lions, Eagles like those were the
five kind of like prestige teams going into this season.
Every year, at least one of the teams that is
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consensus gonna be good has the year from hell or
falls off. Last year it was the Niners. The year
before it was the Bengals, Like the Bengals coming off
back to back AFC championship games, that was when Burrow
came in hurt and they missed playoffs. I think one
of those teams this year it'll happen again. Now again,
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some people think it's Kansas City. I think there's way
more concerning Detroit. I think the loss of the coordinators.
I think the fact that we have seen Jared Goff
multiple times in his career be excellent and multiple times
in his career go pumpkin mode, particularly if he doesn't
have the stability of the interior of that offensive line,
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which I think is a problem for them. So no,
I think Detroit is potentially up against it. Like I
think Detroit could be in real trouble. I think Kansas
City has an infrastructure and still the best quarterback in
the best coach in football. And here's the thing. Twenty
twenty one, coming off getting blown out in the Super Bowl,
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the Chiefs started three and four and got blown out
by the Titans and the Bills, the only two regular
season blow out to Mahome's career. They've end up in
the AFC Championship Game. Two years ago, the Chiefs had
a stretch late in the year where they lost five
of eight and four of six. In the stretch run,
they ended up winning the Super Bowl. So I just
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think the Chiefs aren't going to be rattled even if
they lose this weekend.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
How many teams do you look at how they win
a game, not that they win a game, but did
they Like the Bengals, they won the.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
Game, but that's worst win in NFL history.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
I mean, that's supposed to be a high powered offense.
So I don't know if they get a Hall pass that, hey,
you won the game, and that's a divisional game. I
don't know how many other teams that you look at
and say, how did you win the game? Not just
you won the game.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
So I think that you can graduate to a place
where style points don't matter anymore. I think Brady's Patriots
did it where we would always it felt like for
a long time in like the twenty tens, there was
a lot of yeah, they but dot dot dot, but
it was I think partially and I was and I
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regret now my own commentary about that because now that's
what was done to my team all last year, and
it infuriated. I was like, you gotta be getting me.
They win super Bowls, they win Dames, and you're like,
but it didn't make me feel warm and fuzzy inside.
So I'm a little hypocritical about that, I will admit.
But if you are not a proven minted champion, how
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you look in winning I think matters. And I'll use
Philadelphia as an example in a weird way, Philadelphia coming
off the Super Bowl loss that next year, they started
ten to one, but they it did not look good
and it seemed like something was wrong. And the Eagles
even put voice we need to be better, and then bang,
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they absolutely fall apart at the end of the year.
Cincinnati all off season, We're gonna get off to a
better start. We're gonna get off to a better start.
That both sides of the ball look terrible, like it
was the defense. I know they only allowed sixteen points.
Joe Flacco moved the ball, they missed cakes, They had
two interceptions go off Browns player's hands, which is why
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they were picks, and Cincinnati had seven second half yards.
I'm gonna bring up the Bills in this regard. If
you're a Bills fan going into the year, Dan, you
knew correctly we have a superhero at quarterback. He can
single handedly win us any game. But the reason we
haven't been able to get over the top is because
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against the best quarterbacks in the biggest spots, our defense
hasn't produced. And seeing the defense just get shredded for
fifty five minutes. If you're a Bills fan, you're thrilled
you won the tiebreaker, all of it, but in the
back of your mind, you're like, oh boy, like is
that sustainable? And in Philly Week one, in at Week
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one weird before that weather delay, I thought that Philly
defense looked as bad as it's looked in years, and
it's just like a minor concern. Obviously, the Chiefs didn't
get the win. I thought the Chiefs defense looked as
bad as it's looked in five years in that game.
So there was of those five teams that I said
that everyone expected to be good. I don't think any
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of them feel great about Week one. Obviously Baltimore lost.
Baltimore oddly played the best and then created a way
to lose as they are wont to do.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
I'm talking Nick Wright, host of First Things First on
Fox Sports one and What's Right with Nick Wright on
YouTube wherever you get your podcast? Is it the grand
opening of the Steakhounts the restaurant fifteen eighty seven in
Kansas City with Mahomes and Kelsey. Is that this weekend?
Speaker 4 (32:46):
Yeah, they're doing like a premier or invite starting today
and going through Sunday. We are doing First Things First,
you know. I I've negotiated with FS one that once
a year we do a show in Kansas City, and
that wasn't really much of a It wasn't a tough
(33:08):
negotiation because because it's like, okay, yeah, because we always
go to wherever the super Bowl parade is. So you know,
you were are you gonna be the weirdest thing ever happened?
In calendar twenty twenty five, they held the Super Bowl
Parade in Philadelphia. Like I don't know, so year's almost up,
and so we needed to, you know, check that contractual box.
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So we're going I'm flying out today. We're doing our
show live from Kansas City tomorrow. And as you know,
you know, I'm just the luckiest man in the world.
As it happens, that will allow me Friday night to
see my good friend Patrick and others at the opening
of the steakhouse as I you know, stop by as
an invited guest. What if the food isn't good it's
(33:53):
Kansay steakhouse, Well be good, I know, but let's you know,
would you be honest and say, well, here's the yes.
I would, at least privately. I wouldn't. I wouldn't publicly
pan my friend's restaurant, but like I would privately be like, hey,
this is you know, maybe tighten this up. But it's
not like uh, you know, Price Fix French joint. It's
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not an Oma Kaski sushi spot. It's a Kansas City steakhouse.
Like it is very, very difficult to not have that
be good like good like steakhouses are. They don't have
as high of a ceiling as like the greatest restaurants
in the world. But the ceiling is good, is really good,
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and the floor is. I enjoyed that, so I'm not
worried about it.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Okay, you can sit at Mahomes's table or Kelsey's table,
boil boil boy there there.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
Their spouses are soon to be here with them. Yep,
am I drinking?
Speaker 2 (35:02):
I hope.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
I'm gonna hang with Patrick I the I'm gonna like
I have. I've been lucky enough that I years back,
during what I you know, all the Super Bowl celebrations
run together in your head, spent a night drinking with
Travis and it was all you could have hoped for
(35:27):
and more. To be totally honest with you, but I
also feel like, because I'm not I don't know enough
about Taylor Swift's discography, story, all of that, and I
would feel uneasy. I would feel like I'm gonna screw
(35:51):
something up here, and I wouldn't worry about that with
Patrick and Brittany.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
So yeah, uh, first class seat, ben Wagon, Packers or
Chargers right now?
Speaker 4 (36:04):
Oh, the Chargers. Here's the thing I know about the Chargers.
They're gonna be the Chargers.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
I was just talking about right now after that week No,
the Packers, Okay.
Speaker 4 (36:16):
I thought, I thought that's the right two picks though, Dan.
Those were if we were just grading week one performances,
those were the two best Week one performances. But I
think the Packers, and I was so happy that Micah
(36:36):
made such an impact because I was so disgusted, truly
disgusted Dan with our colleagues in the media when we
have talked more Cowboys, not you guys. You guys are
an er Unite show. Like, listen, whatever the story of
the day is, We're gonna do yes, us us Neanderthals.
We're talking Cowboys a lot. We've talked more Cowboy in
(37:00):
the last four years, and more might than any other team,
and more Micah Parsons than any defensive player in football.
And not in a single segment did any analyst on
any network have this take you know, I accept he's
a great pass rusher, but if you look at his
run stuff rate, really is he overrated? And then Jerry
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Jones loses a negotiation, trades him and says, well, we
were trying to stop the run. And for about a
week the whole media had a fever dream where it
was like Micah Parsons is he good? Differing opinions like
the Dan Campbell before the game says like, ah, we
were just getting glad Kenny Clark got off the team,
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and I like and know Kenny Clark and Kenny Clark.
Dan is such a good player. He's a good enough
player that if you say I'll give you Kenny Clark
and two first round picks, you can get a player
like Michaeh Parsons. So I was really happy that Micah
made the impact he did because he deserved to.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Well, before I let you go, Pablo Torre doing these
deep dive on the Clippers. How do you think this
miss ends?
Speaker 4 (38:15):
Listen? I know Pablo, and Pablo listen, this is really
good journalism, okay, and he deserves credit, and I'm glad
someone is doing it. Let me say that on the
front end. I also think that.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
That we have.
Speaker 4 (38:37):
There have been a couple of these that if they
were old school long form like print journalism, magazine pieces,
it might have been like, hey, we don't quite have
it yet. We've were like, you're probably right, and this
is a lot there, but we need one more piece.
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And because of that, from what I've seen, I think
the NBA will be able to not fully look the
other way. But bad boys, don't you don't you don't
you make me turn this car around. But we'll still
go to Disney World and so and I know that
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Pablo has gotten a little mad at people who I
think have had that opinion. It's not doubting the journalism
or the work. It's more doubting whether or not where
the NBA is gonna set the burden of proof to
napalm a team because and I and I want to add,
can I add just what my theory on it is?
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Sure?
Speaker 4 (39:45):
Just I've done no I've done no research. I then
listen to Pablo's stuff and try to learn about it,
but obviously not doing individual research on it. Because I
thought the point Cuban made was the exact point that
I initially thought of, which is, if Balmer were involved,
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he wouldn't let the company go to bankruptcy right like
he would just he He's not an idiot. He would
know that this could come out. He's the fifth richest
person in the world. He would find a way to,
you know, save the company. But that doesn't. So my
working theory is this, it was cap circumvention. The Clippers
(40:31):
were involved, but it was someone beneath Balmer who didn't
have the ability to bail out the company and didn't
feel comfortable going to Steve and being like, so, here's
the thing. Uh, we did a thing and I'm gonna
need three to four hundred million dollars to fix it.
And that's how it came out. I don't that's just
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my it's just my gut, and I think it's really good,
really good work Pablos done. But the moment the story
came out, I set the penalty the over under at
one and a half second round picks and I'll stay there,
which means the NBA is going to let this one slide.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
Safe travels to Kansas City. Good to talk to you,
have fun this weekend.
Speaker 4 (41:17):
Thank you so much, appreciate it. I loved your guys.
Live stream of Thursday Night and you're going.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
To join us.
Speaker 4 (41:25):
Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna, okay, come join you.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
How where is that? We just decided to do it
because Shay loves the cowboys and he's a mess, and
we thought no.
Speaker 4 (41:35):
But geographically, where is it located?
Speaker 2 (41:37):
Right out? It's in our grilling.
Speaker 4 (41:38):
Area and that's ninety minutes from the city.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Yeah, from where you live.
Speaker 4 (41:44):
Yeah, yeah, you'll send me a nice car, right.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
Yeah, I'll send Uh, I'll send one of my guys
to pick you up.
Speaker 4 (41:51):
That doesn't sound like a fun ride, Maybe.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
Marvin, Marvin, would you go pick up Nick?
Speaker 5 (41:56):
Right?
Speaker 4 (41:57):
No, I'm not asking Marvin to drive me. I'm simply saying,
if I have to be in a car with anyone
in your crew for ninety minutes, Marvin's my first draft pick.
Speaker 6 (42:04):
Okay, So I'll pick you up at the corner one
forty fifth and Broadway. Meet you there will Coda Milks.
Speaker 4 (42:09):
That's six blocks from my house. Bro. We can do that,
all right, talk to you guys.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
Left me say
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
An early hand raised from Seaton.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
Yes, Ston, what if there's a little bit of a
calling here or possibly a movement, grassroots movement for a
Thursday steak and eggs situation?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Maybe regularly?
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Okay, maybe we even throw it earlier in the week
if you want to, so you don't go back to
back for the Thursday steak and eggs Friday meet Friday.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
He probably could have conferred with me off the air.
He kind of put me on the spot. It just happened.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Whilst on the air. We just had to get right
on this.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
So you couldn't have written it down to say speak
to Dan after.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
No, Okay, I'd rather just do it this way.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Okay. By the way, Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelcey have
a steakhouse in Kansas City that's opening up. I don't
know if they're using Heartland, but they should. It's fifteen
eighty seven. Nick Wright's going to join us a little
later on. Nick is going to the soft opening there.
How about this question. You can sit at Patrick Holmes
(01:00):
his table, or you can sit at Travis Kelsey's table.
Steak dinner and they're gonna bring their significant others. Oh yeah,
I mean it's a no brainer. You sit with Kelsey,
that's all I mean. Mahomes, Hey, Patrick, good to see you. Kelsey.
Tell me that story again, you know the time that
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you and your brother went out. Yeah, yes, see.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
I think I would sit with Kelsey and act like
I didn't know who Taylor.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Was, Like, so what do you do? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:32):
So what do you do?
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Your singer? Oh?
Speaker 3 (01:34):
No, kidding, that's awesome. Anything I know anybody who could sing.
Speaker 5 (01:38):
For a living.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
I'm just really impressed with that. Do you like locally or.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Are you a singer songwriter? Do you play guitar? You
play guitar.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
It's not like cover band, tribute band. Yeah, it's your
own originals.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
Oh great? Just do you have enough songs to make
a concert?
Speaker 6 (01:52):
How many songs do you have out there?
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Sah?
Speaker 6 (01:53):
Should I be familiar with?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Okay? Is anybody sitting with Mahomes if you go to
the steak house? Yeah, PAULI I think I've said.
Speaker 7 (02:00):
With Mahomes because I don't think I could relax and
be a good conversationalist with Taylor Swift at the table.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
I think I would with Yeah, but you don't have
to say anything. You can just acknowledge her and kind
of just make her catch up with you with your
conversation with Travis Kelcey. Oh yeah, make her jump in
just a little bit. We got football tonight. This is
one of those perception There's a couple of perception games
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coming up this week. This is the first one with
the Commanders going to green Bay. Green Bay, great performance
Week one. You beat the Lions. Now if you beat
another playoff team now, all of a sudden, depending on
what happens with the Eagles, now, we'll look at the
Packers as the team to beat in the NFC. It
happens that quickly. What if the Chiefs lose, they're underdogs.
(02:51):
I think Mahomes is the second time in his career
he's been an underdog at home. If the Chiefs lose
again once again, wise maybe this is the year that
they don't make the playoffs. And if the Eagles, if
the Eagles lose, I think will be okay. You know,
that's a tough place to go in and play after
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the opener, everything that's happened with Jalen Carter, they didn't
play particularly well, but you ended up getting to win
in going to Kansas City now, But you start to
look at these games and you go, do we know
how good Detroit is? We think we know, And with
Kansas City we think we know. There's other ones that,
(03:35):
oh we do know. Green Bay looks like we do know.
I don't know about the Commanders. I love the story.
I don't know Chargers, I don't know Steelers, I don't know.
Like most of the teams, I don't know, like the Bengals.
That's one of the worst wins in NFL history. Do
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we have a list of worst wins in NFL history?
I wish seven yards in the second half. And I
want to bring this up to both Nick Wright and
Derek Carr. There are certain teams that we want to know.
How you won the game. It's not that you won
the game. Patriots did this. There was a while where
we'd go in it barely squeaked by, but they won
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Kansas City, didn't you know? For me, it was just
they won. May not be pretty, but they won. But
like the Bengals, they're on my short list of teams
that I'm watching. How you win a game? Now, I'm
gonna give them credit. They finally got out of the
gate and won a game in Week one, But you're
playing a Browns team that I mean, the offense and
(04:43):
defense didn't look that good and this is supposed to
be the most potent offense in the NFL. It's how
they win games that I'm going to be curious about. Buffalo,
how do you win these games? Are you going to
have a defense? Are you going to be in shootouts
all year long? The Ravens, how are you winning games?
Are you building up big leads and then holding on
(05:05):
for dear life? So there's certain one Philadelphia. I'm I'm
past the style points just did they win the game,
But there are certain teams where I'm looking to see
how did you win that game instead of just you
won the game? Eight seven, seven to three DP show
email address DP at Danpatrick dot com, Twitter handle at
(05:26):
dp show, Brock Purty likely out. You got George Kettle
who is definitely out, and Mac Jones come on down.
Here's Kyle Shanahan, the Niners head coach, on his quarterback situation.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
Any further sense about whether brought will be able to
play on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
I dance a long shot.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Well, Party's injury could be a multi week thing, and
that's the toe more so in the shoulder.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Yes, get some almost up on his foot in the pocket.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
Do you know how the toe injury happened.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
I think it happened on scram one.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
I think when I'm love tackle him by the sideline.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
I believe it happened we.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Just playing through that in the game, or it is
just something you found out later now was where? Yeah,
well that doesn't sound good. And if it's a there's
certain injuries that stay with you that they really never
heal over the course of a season, just because of
how you play. Just the sport itself. A sprained ankle
feels like it's, you know, always going to be there.
(06:25):
It'll heal, but all it takes is one little twist,
tweak and then it's back again. Shoulder injury that can
stay with you, A toe injury, I mean unless you're
not walking at all or running at all, then maybe
it'll heal. But that is an ominous start for the Niners. Yes, Paul,
you guys.
Speaker 7 (06:45):
Pretty curious about Mac Jones with the Niners.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
I knew that they liked him coming out of the draft.
Speaker 7 (06:52):
Yeah, he his rookie year ten and seven is the starter,
twenty two touchdowns, second for Offensive Rookie of the Year,
and it just off the next two years. He showed
a lot of promise.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Yes, I think in that now when they have all
their weapons. They don't have all their weapons, but I
think when they have their weapons, Mac Jones is a
capable quarterback. That doesn't sound like a compl Hey what
did Dan Patrick? How did he describe me? Capable?
Speaker 3 (07:22):
How about a guy who could win you ballgames? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (07:26):
Oh your voice went out.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Oh my pad. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Yes, at one point he showed the ability to play
at this level.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Yeah he did.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Yeah, when he had a real offensive coordinator, he absolutely
showed that he could play at this level. And then
when you took that away, he didn't.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
And then he was in Jacksonville. I mean what happened
to him was malpractice with the Patriots. I mean they
didn't they didn't give him a chance. Now, can he
do the same thing that Sam Darnold did and get
kicked to the curb a couple of places and all
of a sudden, maybe you get to play play your
way back into just like Sam Darnold. And you know,
(08:06):
we got that one year deal with Seattle. But yeah,
I'm fine with Mac Jones. Yeah, yes, Marvin.
Speaker 6 (08:13):
Is Robert style of running the offense. No, okay, good, Yeah,
because the Patriots defensive coordinator was running the Patriots' offense.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Still amazing.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
I can't believe that.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Still amazing. By the way, the Commanders are getting three
and a half against the Packers and the over unders
forty eight and a half Seaton. What's poll question today?
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Well, we're definitely going with whose table would you sit at?
Knatricks or Travis? Yes, yeah, currently the hottest bandwagon right now, Chargers,
Commander's Packers, other.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Buccaneers might be on there. Yeah, Yeah, there's a lot.
There's an outpouring of support love for Tampa Bay. Back
to a couple of guys have them going to the
Super Bowl and that Owen two stat I mean, if
you buy into it. Since the merger, since nineteen seventy
(09:07):
AFC NFC merger, eight teams have started out oh to
two and made the conference championship game. Last time it
happened the Bengals twenty fourteen, Colts, the Giants in seven,
Eagles and three Pats in one, Jets in nineteen ninety eight,
Patriots nineteen ninety six, and the Cowboys nineteen ninety three.
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There is something to that with Kansas City. It feels
like the first four games, you're gonna figure it out.
I have complete trust in them. Now we keep doing now.
We did this to Brady almost a year in a
year out, like, uh, who's my running back? Who are
my wide receivers? Okay, I'll make the best of it.
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And Patrick Mahomes has done you know, no Tyreek Hill,
Kelsey's slowing down. You got players who are injured, suspended.
You know, it's not a vaunted offense anymore. But Mahomes
changed the NFL because when he's throwing you know, upwards
of fifty touchdown passes, then all of a sudden, defense
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is decided. Everything is going to be kept in front
of them. We're going to play deep, and we're going
to make you go down the field. We're going to
make you work. And David Carr talked about this yesterday.
He said, if I'm a defensive coordinator, what I want
you to do is put together a fifteen play drive.
Let me see if you get first downs on third
and eight, or maybe there's a turnover, or maybe we
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force you into a punt. You know, Kansas City was
able to have big scoring plays, long scoring plays, and
then defenses just said, hey, how deep do we need
to be to keep everything in front of us? And
that's why Mahomes's numbers have been kind of pedestrian during
the regular season. It's not that he's not as good
as he wants was, he just doesn't have those opportunities.
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And that's why Isaiah Pacheco is so important because running
the football, getting and even Mahomes, he was their leading
rusher against the Chargers. And now do I like him
running as much as he did in that first game.
I don't, but that might be out of necessity. All right.
So Thursday night football Fritzy has come up with a menu.
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I said, could you come up with a menu of
the Travis Kelce Patrick Mahomes restaurant the fifteen eighty seven
they're Jersey numbers. We'll have that after the break time.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
We will do that.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
How many items on the menu?
Speaker 3 (11:39):
I have sixteen items.
Speaker 6 (11:40):
We can bang them.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Up real quick.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
I think they're fun.
Speaker 6 (11:42):
Okay, possible menu suggested items for the fifteen eighty seven
primes taking.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
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take a break. We're just getting started on this Thursday.
We're back after this.
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Speaker 2 (13:10):
From Derek Carr, former NFL quarterback and now a YouTube
sensation pre and postgame studio analysts along with Brandon Marshall
and Tyron Matthew and they did the Chiefs Chargers. Hey,
the reviews were really good. How comfortable did you feel
as an analyst?
Speaker 5 (13:30):
You know, it's funny, it was just easy because I
got to break down film. I was like, I've been
doing this for twenty years, and so I was like,
don't make me get on here and talk a whole bunch.
Let me let me do let me do some film.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
But you know that's the thing, breaking it down. But
then you're able to give it to us so we
understand what's going on because your language, quarterbacks language and terminology.
Like sometimes even your brother yesterday when we had him on,
he's telling me things. I go, I'm not even going
to interrupt. I have no idea what he's talking about.
Speaker 5 (14:01):
One hundred percent, and so I've always I always just
try and keep it simple. Yes, I could get into
so many details and hours of breakdown and all this
kind of stuff, but for me, it was just like,
how do I make it entertaining? And I learned from
the best Coach Gruden was like that every day, and
so the way he would present film and present information,
he's the best presenter of information I was ever around.
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So I just tried to, you know, mimic what he
did and it kind of worked out.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
What stood out when you broke down the Chiefs Chargers,
you know what really.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
Stood out to me was was Herbert Like every time
I would watch it because I know the Chiefs defense,
I know Pat Pat is one of the greatest to
ever play the game. It's really fun to watch what
they've been able to do, whether people are hurt or
not hurt. But when I watch Herbert, he's been so consistent,
and I know that feeling where you're on you're on
a team that keep switching coaches on you, that keep
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doing this. It reminds me of when I got when
coach Gruden showed up, and I hope that they get
to stay together longer than I got to stay with
grew because we were starting to take off. And so
when I watch him, he's just so consistent, so accurate,
and he's so tall, he sees everything and so he's
rarely fooled, which is really really a luxury.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
You start to look at these quarterbacks, and we see
young quarterbacks make the same mistakes because in college you
get to hold onto the ball a little longer. Players
stay open a little bit longer. There they try to
scramble out of trouble there. Why why is that that
they keep it? You know it's new quarterbacks, but it's
the same mistakes.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
There's no there's no recipe for you know, you can
I'll say this one. You can train him as much
you want. When you have a red jersey on during
OTA's and training camp and all that. It gets a
little different when you get to practice or the real games.
You know that. It's just there's no substitute for experience.
And so I saw, you know, we saw cam Ward
take a red zone sack and then get sacked again,
and he's trying to outrun people. I mean, you find
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out real quick that the defensive tackles are faster than you,
you know, and so you know it's tough, man, And
like you said, you hit it on the head. The
game is so fast, so it doesn't matter what level
of college you play. The speed of the game four quarterbacks.
It just happens faster. But you know, like like you said,
it takes guys hopefully a shorter amount of time because
our our leash with quarterbacks nowadays is so short. It's
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not like the old days where they give you time
to grow and all that. But hopefully these guys can
figure it out soon. And it looks like they will.
It looks like a good batch of young guys.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
But you know, they talk about climbing up in the
pocket and and that takes like you got to have
guts like it, you know, because it's chaos around you.
But these guys don't want to climb up in the pocket.
They want to try to dance around and get out
of trouble. But what is that feeling like? I mean,
that's the ultimate. I'm trusting my offensive lineman that I
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won't get crushed one.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
I remember there was a year we started two rookie
tackles and in the NFL, that's a that's a that's
a big deal. And I remember Gruden said to me,
he said, look, it's gonna be it's gonna be rough.
But when you hit that back foot, I want you
to climb. I want you to find a completion and
in it, man, it trained me in such a way
that you have to hit that back foot. You just
got to make a decision really as a man, say
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I'm going forward, you know, because everything that we've been
instilled in us is like, if something's coming at me,
I got to get away from it. But you got
to go forward, you gotta climb. And you know, for
me that was one of the biggest learning moments was
playing with two young tackles, you know, the teaching them, hey,
let them run by lose one way, just don't lose inside.
And we were able to figure it out.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
I didn't know you did a John Gruden impersonation.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
Honestly, everybody on those teams on offense can do it.
Foster Moreau, Waller Hunter where everyone has a little maybe
we don't match it perfectly, but the tone, the cadence,
like we can all hit one part of it identically.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
What's the tone that you hit?
Speaker 5 (17:46):
Oh Man, For me, it was always he would always
look at me, so you'll love this. Dan, We're in
a meeting and he would always tell me, Derek, I
want completions. I want completions. I want completions. So we're
in a team meeting and he says, eight, Car, I
want them what And I said and want completions? He goes, no,
I want communication, idiot.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Idiot, idiot.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
That was great.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Derek and David Carr have a new podcast called Homegrown
features both of the brothers discussing NFL college, high school
football for me quarterbacks perspective. He said that he had
fun with you about the Brady coming through Las Vegas
to want to play for the Raiders and singling you
out of you're gonna stay with this guy? Did you
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have fun with that?
Speaker 5 (18:35):
Oh? I did, And I'd be completely honest, Dan, I had.
I had about one hundred different funny things to say.
I couldn't help myself. But I just felt like when
I woke up this morning, like it just hit me,
like with everything that happened yesterday, not to get weird,
I was like, man, it's not even worth saying any
of them. Man, I just want to love them. You know.
I could make a zinger and be funny about it,
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but like you know, I just with everything have me yesterday,
it's just on my heart just to love everybody, no
matter or what you know. And and I have none
but love for Tom. He knows that. You know, we've talked,
you know, many times. So, uh, we did have fun though,
we did as brothers, do you know with those kind
of things. Uh, But yeah, man, I just I just
love on him, you know, because I already knew I'd
make some joke and someone wouldn't put the whole context
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on it, and it'd be a thing. But you know,
it is what it is.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
We want to come up with a stat RCI receiver
caused interception, yes, right, because not all interceptions are made
the same way.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
One, you know, and you would have to put a
quarterback in charge of that because you know, there there
are times that it is our fault, absolutely, and but
there are times where you throw a shallow cross it
bounces off someone's hands and you're like, what the heck?
I remember? I remember I threw a pick. It was
man coverage. The receiver didn't see it, you know, and
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he stops and I go to throw the shallow cross
like it's man in the corner, keeps running and picks
it off, and I was like, it's ah, man, you
got to keep running, you know. But no one knew,
and obviously you get booed in all those kind of things,
which is fine.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
How do you walk away from thirty million dollars?
Speaker 5 (20:06):
Oh my goodness. It wasn't easy, I promise you know.
Uh it's easy to make a comment and just say yeah,
it is what it is. But it wasn't. It was hard.
It was really when you talk to your wife, Yeah,
when I when when I talked to my wife, you know,
she she was, she was ready for me to be
done whenever I was ready. You know that. She's amazing.
She would she she saw, honestly, things that no one
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else saw, you know, waking up on Monday mornings and
I can't walk, you know, waking up on Monday mornings
and I have to call her to come in the
room to help me get out of bed. You know. Like,
so she she was done. She was, she was like,
I'm good. You know, eleven years is enough. But for
me as a competitor and my love, Honestly, Dan, I
love the game so much. I just love football. I
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think it's great for character. I think it's great for everybody.
I think it's team, it's unity, it's all the things
I believe in. But to say no to the money
part of it, I had to. I had to die
to myself on that one, you know, like I had
to be like, you know, what is what's the right
thing to do all that, because on the inside you're like,
well it's easy, I just make that money and go.
But it just wasn't right because I wasn't ready.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
What's it like to be home this time of the year.
Speaker 5 (21:13):
It's been really weird. You know, Wednesdays in the NFL
are the longest days, and for a quarterback is really
every day. But you know, Wednesdays, I'm going on dates
with my wife. She said, you want to go on
the day. He's like, yeah, let's go. It's Wednesday, you know,
And that's that's a that's a first for us in
a long time. And so it's been fun. Though. I
laid on my couch and my agent text me. He's like,
how you feeling. I said, I feel great. I'm not
getting hit.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
So it was good, okay, but will there be a temptation?
Speaker 5 (21:37):
Yeah? You know who my biggest temptation is is David.
Every every single day he's like, text me, you see this,
you see this, you know this? You know this guy? Hey,
guess who texts me? You know, he doesn't he doesn't
he said, So we're gonna sit down. I said. He said,
we're gonna sit down and Thanksgiving. I said, bro, I'm retired.
He said, at least give me Thanksgiving to try and
convince you. So he's he's the biggest one.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
There's no scenario where you'd come back.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
I wouldn't say never, because I've learned that when I
say never, it usually happens. And I think we've all
probably learned that. So for me, right now, I'm training
because I love to train, like that's gonna be the
rest of my life. I love to train. I throw
football every now and then out in the front with
my kids and into my buddy, you know, for fun,
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because it's part of my rehab still for my shoulder.
You know, I'm still just trying to get that back
right from getting the shot and doing the rehab and
all that, and so I'm still doing those things. And
so I always felt like even though I'm done, like,
you know, if God wanted me to do it, I
got to be ready, you know. I don't want to
go out there and not be ready, you know. So
I'll be ready, but I'm not coming back, like like
right now today, I'm not coming back.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
You're only thirty four.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
I am thirty four. I got a lot of life,
and I got a big job. I got coach the
fourth through sixth grade Clovis Christian Warriors, you know what
I mean. So I'm committed to them right now.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Are looking this year, Derek?
Speaker 5 (22:58):
They're doing good. I'm out there yelling at my kids.
He play. One of them plays quarterback, the other plays receiver.
So I imitate Groodon a lot to them, for sure.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
The two quarterbacks tonight. Break them down from what you've seen.
Speaker 5 (23:11):
You know, I'm really interested. This is the this is
what it's gonna come down to. Thursday night football, right,
Thursday night football to me has always been the test
of who can get the healthiest and who can take
care of the football. And I think both can and
if I'm honest, like I truly believe in them, and
so I feel like it always comes down to a
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receiver or a tight end in my experience, I'll never forget.
You call it play and you you thought it was
last week's play, but you get you get it screwed up.
And it's those little details. Treatment talks about all the time.
On Monday Night, He's like, it's those little details that
no one else will see. If they can take care
of the football, that's the only chance that they have
because in Thursday night football, there's there's it's usually a mess.
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I think we've all seen that as players. We hated Thursdays,
but you know, it is what it is.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
But have you ever gone to the line of scrimmage
and called a play that was from the previous team
that you were with?
Speaker 5 (24:09):
Oh, especially right when you first like get into it,
like I promise you, Like you get in the huddle
and you're like, hey, we're gonna go, you know, let's
go dice right, three fifty eight cannon cannas and then
you're like hey, and then you say like on the quick,
and everyone's like, everyone will look at you, like what
do you mean? On the quick? You know, it's like, oh, sorry,
wrong offense, wrong offense, especially on a Thursday, because it's
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all cramed in your mind. Luckily, for Luckily, for Jaden
and Jordan, this is the only offense.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Is that they know, and so they'll be Okay, did
Peyton ruin it? For all quarterbacks? Because now everybody's expected
to go to the line of scrimmage and you know,
change the play, call the play.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
You know, when I watched Peyton, that's who I wanted
to be, honestly, like I Peyton knows this. I used
to go to the stadium early when my brother would
play him, and I would watch him throw Tomorrow and
Reggie and Dallash Clark and those guys, and like, growing up,
I thought, I still believe that's the best way to
play football. The coach. The coach is making estimated guests
based on study and film and what they know about
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these people at the defense corners. But the quarterback gets
to see the tests right in front of it. So
if you can train the quarterback that way. So did
he ruin it? I wouldn't say he ruined it, but
that's how the game I believe is supposed to be played.
But now with the CBA, these coaches don't even have
time to teach the game like we did. Like it's
just it's so different. So now it's just flashcards. Hey,
remember this flash card and go do it at the
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best of your ability.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Good luck with the YouTube stuff, good luck with the
podcast with your brother, and good luck in retirement.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
Oh thank you, Dan, I appreciate It's always good to
talk to you.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
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Speaker 2 (25:57):
Our good buddy Nick Wright, host of First Things First
on Fox Sports one and What's Right with Nick right
on YouTube wherever you get your podcast, Going to be
on the road, going to Kansas City. Going to do
the show on Friday from Kansas City. Good to see
Nick again. Are we entering must win situation time this weekend.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
For Philly because the Chiefs are down their top two weapons.
Maybe it'd be really embarrassing for the Eagles with the NFL,
you know, having the first ever suspension where you get
to play and the Chiefs are down their top two guys.
And the last time Philly was in Kansas City, Nick
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Sirianni walked off the field, mother fing the fans to
lose that game against the Chiefs team that listen, I'm
just a blind, dopey homer, but everyone that can see
clearly obviously has seen. You know, the league is passed
Kansas City by now. It was just two games ago
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that the Chiefs were playing for an opportunity to be
the greatest team in the history of the sport. But
a lot's changed in those two games. So yeah, I
mean it'd be mortifying, especially after how Philly looked in
Week one.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Yeah, they better win, but more must win Lions or
the Chiefs.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Oh lot.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
So here's I'm glad you brought that up because I think,
tell me, using this fair, there were five teams going
into the season that everyone thought were going to be good.
Again Bill's Ravens, Chiefs, Lions, Eagles like those were the
five kind of like prestige teams going into this season.
Every year, at least one of the teams that is
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consensus gonna be good has the year from hell or
falls off. Last year it was the Niners. The year
before it was the Bengals, Like the Bengals coming off
back to back AFC championship games, that was when Burrow
came in hurt and they missed playoffs. I think one
of those teams this year it'll happen again. Now again,
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some people think it's Kansas City. I think there's way
more concerning Detroit. I think the loss of the coordinators.
I think the fact that we have seen Jared Goff
multiple times in his career be excellent and multiple times
in his career go pumpkin mode, particularly if he doesn't
have the stability of the interior of that offensive line,
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which I think is a problem for them. So no,
I think Detroit is potentially up against it. Like I
think Detroit could be in real trouble. I think Kansas
City has an infrastructure and still the best quarterback in
the best coach in football. And here's the thing. Twenty
twenty one, coming off getting blown out in the Super Bowl,
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the Chiefs started three and four and got blown out
by the Titans and the Bills, the only two regular
season blow out to Mahome's career. They've end up in
the AFC Championship Game. Two years ago, the Chiefs had
a stretch late in the year where they lost five
of eight and four of six. In the stretch run,
they ended up winning the Super Bowl. So I just
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think the Chiefs aren't going to be rattled even if
they lose this weekend.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
How many teams do you look at how they win
a game, not that they win a game, but did
they Like the Bengals, they won the.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
Game, but that's worst win in NFL history.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
I mean, that's supposed to be a high powered offense.
So I don't know if they get a Hall pass that, hey,
you won the game, and that's a divisional game. I
don't know how many other teams that you look at
and say, how did you win the game? Not just
you won the game.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
So I think that you can graduate to a place
where style points don't matter anymore. I think Brady's Patriots
did it where we would always it felt like for
a long time in like the twenty tens, there was
a lot of yeah, they but dot dot dot, but
it was I think partially and I was and I
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regret now my own commentary about that because now that's
what was done to my team all last year, and
it infuriated. I was like, you gotta be getting me.
They win super Bowls, they win Dames, and you're like,
but it didn't make me feel warm and fuzzy inside.
So I'm a little hypocritical about that, I will admit.
But if you are not a proven minted champion, how
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you look in winning I think matters. And I'll use
Philadelphia as an example in a weird way, Philadelphia coming
off the Super Bowl loss that next year, they started
ten to one, but they it did not look good
and it seemed like something was wrong. And the Eagles
even put voice we need to be better, and then bang,
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they absolutely fall apart at the end of the year.
Cincinnati all off season, We're gonna get off to a
better start. We're gonna get off to a better start.
That both sides of the ball look terrible, like it
was the defense. I know they only allowed sixteen points.
Joe Flacco moved the ball, they missed cakes, They had
two interceptions go off Browns player's hands, which is why
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they were picks, and Cincinnati had seven second half yards.
I'm gonna bring up the Bills in this regard. If
you're a Bills fan going into the year, Dan, you
knew correctly we have a superhero at quarterback. He can
single handedly win us any game. But the reason we
haven't been able to get over the top is because
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against the best quarterbacks in the biggest spots, our defense
hasn't produced. And seeing the defense just get shredded for
fifty five minutes. If you're a Bills fan, you're thrilled
you won the tiebreaker, all of it, but in the
back of your mind, you're like, oh boy, like is
that sustainable? And in Philly Week one, in at Week
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one weird before that weather delay, I thought that Philly
defense looked as bad as it's looked in years, and
it's just like a minor concern. Obviously, the Chiefs didn't
get the win. I thought the Chiefs defense looked as
bad as it's looked in five years in that game.
So there was of those five teams that I said
that everyone expected to be good. I don't think any
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of them feel great about Week one. Obviously Baltimore lost.
Baltimore oddly played the best and then created a way
to lose as they are wont to do.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
I'm talking Nick Wright, host of First Things First on
Fox Sports one and What's Right with Nick Wright on
YouTube wherever you get your podcast? Is it the grand
opening of the Steakhounts the restaurant fifteen eighty seven in
Kansas City with Mahomes and Kelsey. Is that this weekend?
Speaker 4 (32:46):
Yeah, they're doing like a premier or invite starting today
and going through Sunday. We are doing First Things First,
you know. I I've negotiated with FS one that once
a year we do a show in Kansas City, and
that wasn't really much of a It wasn't a tough
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negotiation because because it's like, okay, yeah, because we always
go to wherever the super Bowl parade is. So you know,
you were are you gonna be the weirdest thing ever happened?
In calendar twenty twenty five, they held the Super Bowl
Parade in Philadelphia. Like I don't know, so year's almost up,
and so we needed to, you know, check that contractual box.
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So we're going I'm flying out today. We're doing our
show live from Kansas City tomorrow. And as you know,
you know, I'm just the luckiest man in the world.
As it happens, that will allow me Friday night to
see my good friend Patrick and others at the opening
of the steakhouse as I you know, stop by as
an invited guest. What if the food isn't good it's
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Kansay steakhouse, Well be good, I know, but let's you know,
would you be honest and say, well, here's the yes.
I would, at least privately. I wouldn't. I wouldn't publicly
pan my friend's restaurant, but like I would privately be like, hey,
this is you know, maybe tighten this up. But it's
not like uh, you know, Price Fix French joint. It's
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not an Oma Kaski sushi spot. It's a Kansas City steakhouse.
Like it is very, very difficult to not have that
be good like good like steakhouses are. They don't have
as high of a ceiling as like the greatest restaurants
in the world. But the ceiling is good, is really good,
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and the floor is. I enjoyed that, so I'm not
worried about it.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Okay, you can sit at Mahomes's table or Kelsey's table,
boil boil boy there there.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
Their spouses are soon to be here with them. Yep,
am I drinking?
Speaker 2 (35:02):
I hope.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
I'm gonna hang with Patrick I the I'm gonna like
I have. I've been lucky enough that I years back,
during what I you know, all the Super Bowl celebrations
run together in your head, spent a night drinking with
Travis and it was all you could have hoped for
(35:27):
and more. To be totally honest with you, but I
also feel like, because I'm not I don't know enough
about Taylor Swift's discography, story, all of that, and I
would feel uneasy. I would feel like I'm gonna screw
(35:51):
something up here, and I wouldn't worry about that with
Patrick and Brittany.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
So yeah, uh, first class seat, ben Wagon, Packers or
Chargers right now?
Speaker 4 (36:04):
Oh, the Chargers. Here's the thing I know about the Chargers.
They're gonna be the Chargers.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
I was just talking about right now after that week No,
the Packers, Okay.
Speaker 4 (36:16):
I thought, I thought that's the right two picks though, Dan.
Those were if we were just grading week one performances,
those were the two best Week one performances. But I
think the Packers, and I was so happy that Micah
(36:36):
made such an impact because I was so disgusted, truly
disgusted Dan with our colleagues in the media when we
have talked more Cowboys, not you guys. You guys are
an er Unite show. Like, listen, whatever the story of
the day is, We're gonna do yes, us us Neanderthals.
We're talking Cowboys a lot. We've talked more Cowboy in
(37:00):
the last four years, and more might than any other team,
and more Micah Parsons than any defensive player in football.
And not in a single segment did any analyst on
any network have this take you know, I accept he's
a great pass rusher, but if you look at his
run stuff rate, really is he overrated? And then Jerry
(37:23):
Jones loses a negotiation, trades him and says, well, we
were trying to stop the run. And for about a
week the whole media had a fever dream where it
was like Micah Parsons is he good? Differing opinions like
the Dan Campbell before the game says like, ah, we
were just getting glad Kenny Clark got off the team,
(37:45):
and I like and know Kenny Clark and Kenny Clark.
Dan is such a good player. He's a good enough
player that if you say I'll give you Kenny Clark
and two first round picks, you can get a player
like Michaeh Parsons. So I was really happy that Micah
made the impact he did because he deserved to.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Well, before I let you go, Pablo Torre doing these
deep dive on the Clippers. How do you think this
miss ends?
Speaker 4 (38:15):
Listen? I know Pablo, and Pablo listen, this is really
good journalism, okay, and he deserves credit, and I'm glad
someone is doing it. Let me say that on the
front end. I also think that.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
That we have.
Speaker 4 (38:37):
There have been a couple of these that if they
were old school long form like print journalism, magazine pieces,
it might have been like, hey, we don't quite have
it yet. We've were like, you're probably right, and this
is a lot there, but we need one more piece.
(39:00):
And because of that, from what I've seen, I think
the NBA will be able to not fully look the
other way. But bad boys, don't you don't you don't
you make me turn this car around. But we'll still
go to Disney World and so and I know that
(39:22):
Pablo has gotten a little mad at people who I
think have had that opinion. It's not doubting the journalism
or the work. It's more doubting whether or not where
the NBA is gonna set the burden of proof to
napalm a team because and I and I want to add,
can I add just what my theory on it is?
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Sure?
Speaker 4 (39:45):
Just I've done no I've done no research. I then
listen to Pablo's stuff and try to learn about it,
but obviously not doing individual research on it. Because I
thought the point Cuban made was the exact point that
I initially thought of, which is, if Balmer were involved,
(40:06):
he wouldn't let the company go to bankruptcy right like
he would just he He's not an idiot. He would
know that this could come out. He's the fifth richest
person in the world. He would find a way to,
you know, save the company. But that doesn't. So my
working theory is this, it was cap circumvention. The Clippers
(40:31):
were involved, but it was someone beneath Balmer who didn't
have the ability to bail out the company and didn't
feel comfortable going to Steve and being like, so, here's
the thing. Uh, we did a thing and I'm gonna
need three to four hundred million dollars to fix it.
And that's how it came out. I don't that's just
(40:54):
my it's just my gut, and I think it's really good,
really good work Pablos done. But the moment the story
came out, I set the penalty the over under at
one and a half second round picks and I'll stay there,
which means the NBA is going to let this one slide.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
Safe travels to Kansas City. Good to talk to you,
have fun this weekend.
Speaker 4 (41:17):
Thank you so much, appreciate it. I loved your guys.
Live stream of Thursday Night and you're going.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
To join us.
Speaker 4 (41:25):
Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna, okay, come join you.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
How where is that? We just decided to do it
because Shay loves the cowboys and he's a mess, and
we thought no.
Speaker 4 (41:35):
But geographically, where is it located?
Speaker 2 (41:37):
Right out? It's in our grilling.
Speaker 4 (41:38):
Area and that's ninety minutes from the city.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Yeah, from where you live.
Speaker 4 (41:44):
Yeah, yeah, you'll send me a nice car, right.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
Yeah, I'll send Uh, I'll send one of my guys
to pick you up.
Speaker 4 (41:51):
That doesn't sound like a fun ride, Maybe.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
Marvin, Marvin, would you go pick up Nick?
Speaker 5 (41:56):
Right?
Speaker 4 (41:57):
No, I'm not asking Marvin to drive me. I'm simply saying,
if I have to be in a car with anyone
in your crew for ninety minutes, Marvin's my first draft pick.
Speaker 6 (42:04):
Okay, So I'll pick you up at the corner one
forty fifth and Broadway. Meet you there will Coda Milks.
Speaker 4 (42:09):
That's six blocks from my house. Bro. We can do that,
all right, talk to you guys.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
Left me say
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