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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
You had a couple of games last night in the
NFL and didn't really lived up to any kind of excitement.
We kept waiting for something to happen, certainly with the Buccaneers,
and it didn't. The excitement was the Blue Jays come
back to beat the Mariners and they headed to the
World Series. And once again, Seattle is the only baseball team,
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the only current baseball team to have never.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Made a World Series.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
And you had one out, you had one batter, and
then you had Cal Rawley in the on deck circle.
That's what we were hoping for, at least end it
that way. He had an incredible season. Extremely emotional after
the game, felt like, you know, it was a disappointment
or they let Seattle down. They were a great story.
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They went toe to toe. But you can't win those
two games in Toronto and come home and then lose
those games. Because Toronto was a really good team from
start to finish this year and they're not finished yet.
They go into the World Series. They'll be big underdogs
here against the Dodgers. We'll talk a little bit more
about that coming up. Lions handled the Buccaneers twenty four
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to nine, and you know they lose Mike Evans, They're
already banged up, broken collarbone. Bucky Irving was already out
like this is one of those It was going right
and you're waiting for God winning Evans to come back,
and now it's not going to happen with Evans with
the broken collarbone. I think he got concussed on that
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as well. But the Lions did what they're supposed to do.
The Lions and the Chiefs right now the two best
odds for the Super Bowl and not surprised at all
that they've kind of it took a little while, certainly
for the Chiefs, and you know, the Lions had been there,
tough schedule, but that was the game they had to have.
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I think if the Buccaneers had won that one, then
we would continue to be like, wow, they are real.
The Lions had to win that game. It felt like
because you're at home, they have gone. I think the
number is fifty one consecutive games without losing consecutive games.
That's the longest streak in the NFL right now.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
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Speaker 3 (02:23):
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it up there until their next game. Who do the
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Browns play? Don't they play the Jets? All right, we
might be able to keep it up for two more
weeks there, But Bengals in the Jets, they should say,
Flaco around and find out, Yes, Seaton.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
I have your Cleveland Browns. Their schedule is at New
England than at the Jets home against Baltimore at the Ravens.
There's a bunch of wins in there. Actually, oh there
could be. Okay, don't you think, well, what about the Bengals.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Oh yeah, that's right. He's a Bengal now. Damn it.
It's so hard to separate it, it really is.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
Jill.
Speaker 6 (03:24):
Flacco's history with the Bengals is so story.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
But it is nice to know what the Brown God,
damn it, that's right.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
He's on the Bengals now, same state, same colors, save everything.
Yeah heck yeah, oh yeah, they're playing the Jets. They
got better receivers down south, and then the Steelers, then
the Patriots.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Okay, that's what the schedule is.
Speaker 6 (03:43):
Yes, I know we have other things to hit, but
it's still so nuts that the Browns would help the
Bengals for a pick swap. They gave a decent quarterback
to the Bengals who were floundering.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
But how many people said at the time, boy, they're
really giving the Bengals a boost. I don't know how
many people did because they thought, well, if he can't
be good for the Browns, can't start for the Browns.
He lost his job with the Browns, how good can
he be? And my point was, you still have those receivers.
As long as you keep Joe Flacco upright, that's it.
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He'll still be able to throw the ball and you
got those receivers. That's why watching the Texans last night
with CJ stround, I mean, I don't know how good
he is. You can say he's regressing. That offensive line
is not good. Not having an offensive line will make
every quarterback mortal. Everyone if you look at Mahomes in
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two Super Bowls. He got humbled, he got embarrassed, he
was mortal. Why he didn't have an offensive line. If
Jared Goff played for another team, if he played for
the Texans, we'd go, what's wrong with Jared Goff in Detroit.
We he's got the best left tackle, he's got a
really good offensive line, really good weapons, and we go, man,
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he could be MVP candidate. That's the difference. Brady, when
they blocked for him and the Super Bowl was unbelievable.
When he played against the Giants, they didn't block for
him and he got humbled.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
That's the difference.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
I don't care how good your quarterback is, you got
to have somebody blocking for him at some point if
you're going to be a winner. And if Joe Flacco
can get some protection there, just like Jared Goff did
last night, Golf didn't play well. He had Jamir Gibbs.
By the way, this is how it sounded with Jamir
Gibbs touchdown run last night cost.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
Tampa to play a little bit tougher day. Walking down
hands to javert him.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
There he goes foot race right side.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
You've got no shot at catching that man.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Cut fun and.
Speaker 7 (05:44):
Zone touchdown Detroit Lions seventy eight yards a boults of
lightning and the Lions are an extra portaway from doubling.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Up their lead.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
That was a reminder game where you go, oh, that's right,
he's really good, like really good. He had an that's
courtesy of the ticket, the Lions radio network, and when
you look at Jamiir Gibbs and you look at what
he does, he's in an interesting category players who have
averaged five point three yards per carry or better in
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their first three NFL seasons. This is since nineteen seventy
at least three hundred carries. Jamal Charles averaged six yards
per carry a chan with the Dolphins averaging five point
five yards, c J. Spiller five point three, and then
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Jamiir Gibbs five point three, Bo Jackson five point three
as well. I mean, averaging over five yards per carry.
That is some lofty territory there with Jamir Gibbs. But
he was wonderful last night. Baker Mayfield did not have
a great night. Kept waiting for something to happen. Kevin
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Harlan and was on the call for Westwood One. He'll
join his next hour. We'll talk about that. I don't
know if he was waiting. I kept waiting for them
something to happen. And then the Mike Evans thing, I
mean devastating. You're losing a Hall of Fame receiver before
his season really even started. And here's Baker Mayfield upset
with the officials.
Speaker 8 (07:21):
Still pretty damn confused about the double review. A lot
of things in that game that a little questionable, but
a lot of frustration at the end of that and
it might be displaced onto John Hussey in the moment,
but I work my ass off and I put a
lot into this game. So when things that I don't
seem are deemed fair, I'm going to let somebody know.
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And that's good, bad, and different.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Yeah, it can be expensive as well. But he was
dawn with the officials there. But that's frustration as well,
kind of taking over. But give Detroit credit. I mean,
that's a game you got to win against a really
good opponent. The Seattle win. I don't know who who
Seattle is. Like, there's a few teams that I don't
know how good they are. I know that defense is good.
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I know that if Sam Donald plays mistake free football,
they're going to be in every game. You're five and two.
But I don't know what that five and two means,
because it can mean different. I mean levels of wow
they're five and two to five and two, they're wow.
Can you believe they're five and two? But Seattle is
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a tough place to play, and Sam Darnold has done well.
I don't know how good the Colts are, but I
did say I thought they were a playoff team we
started the season. You're in a bad division, and Danny
Dimes has played really well, and they got some playmakers there.
Kansas City. I pick Kansas City and Detroit to go
to the super Bowl. Not a big leap there. And
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I still think those are the two best teams right now.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Maybe the Eagles are sort of up and down, never
quite sure. Not that vibe you had last year, maybe
more like the previous year. It's still there. I just
don't get the cens its all there, Yeah, Marvin.
Speaker 9 (09:10):
But having the Eagles work themselves into Chiefs category territory.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
As far as oh man, they're not playing very well.
Let's wait til the playoffs start.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Then we'll see how good they are. Yeah, And same
with the Lions. There's a few teams like that.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
I would always say that about Baltimore, I'd say that
about the Chargers. I'd always say that about the Cowboys.
Regular season is fun. Postseason that's for fame. That's where
when you do something, that's when you're remembered, or when
you don't do something, that's when you're remembered.
Speaker 6 (09:39):
Yeah, Paul, you know who's catching a lot of shrapnel
today and this week is the Minnesota Vikings. Brass Daniel Jones,
who was on the Vikings roster last year is playing
out of his mind. Sam Darnold's playing really well and
leading them to good days, and it's like revisionist history.
People are saying, man, they should have kept Sam Darnald.
Not a lot of people said that last year at
the end of the season.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
No, you had those two bad games at the end
of the year and they're like, oh, okay, it's done.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
You know the whole thing that those are two.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Guys who got started in New York, and when it
goes bad in New York, it goes worse than any
other city in America, especially if you're a quarterback in
those cities. And Sam Donald was a high pick, so
was Daniel Jones and they failed and therefore it's all
on them. And then we kicked them to the curb.
And you know, we've kind of got to get used
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to this reclamation, this comeback that you have with quarterbacks.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
Now.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Granted, Sam Donald got bounced around to a couple of
different teams. Danny Dimes just went from you know, the Giants.
He was a backup in Minnesota, didn't get a chance
to really play, and now you're with the Colts and
good Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Same way.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
I mean, Jared Goff got kicked to the curb by
the Rams when you think about it, because Matthew Stafford
was available. Hey, here's the consolation prize. We want you
to take some first round draft picks as well. Will
you please take Jared Goff? He got them to a
super Bowl. Jared Goff is a good quarterback, good quarterback,
really good quarterback.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
But goes back to you.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Got a good offensive line, I got sewell there that
I feel a whole lot better when I go to
the line of scrimmage, where I go, yeah, I got him.
And if i'm you know Jamior Gibbs, I go, yeah,
I know he's going to take care of one or
two people? All right, eight, seven, seven, three DP show
which pole question?
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Seaton?
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Oh my gosh, we've got seven at least right now?
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Seven?
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Yeah, seven, okay, give me a give me a taste
here before we take a break, taste before the break.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
Yeah, we have two pole questions based on your five
and two commentary. Okay, all right, a little thing we
like to call more for Real?
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Is that the official title?
Speaker 4 (11:52):
Yes, there's a More for Real pole question? Okay, AFC
and NFC version. All right, we have a whose career?
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Would you want?
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Have a would you rather? We have a I'm rooting
for dot dot dot? We have a witch is Worse?
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Dot dot dot?
Speaker 4 (12:06):
We have a you can pick win to win a
title dot dot dot.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Okay, you did say something. Would you rather be a
cheater or an underachiever?
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Yes? Cheeter underachiever coming up later.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Okay, Yes, you're gonna have to explain that one, Like
what what spurred that one on?
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Would you rather be a cheater or an underachiever?
Speaker 5 (12:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (12:25):
Well, there's a longer sentence to explain both of those.
But if we're doing this sort of abbreviation, get right
to the point. Okay, cheater, underachiever, Okay, then.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
We'll wait TWI for the break. Yes, ton is the
more for really what are we talking about here? Question? Yeah,
that's all right, Thank you, Tod.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
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Speaker 2 (13:37):
NFL on CBS play by play Monday Night Action on
Westwood One, he was on the call last night. He
was also in the booth at Mile High between the
Giants and the Broncos. He's got Dolphins Falcons on CBS
next Sunday, and then the Commander's Chiefs West One run
on radio Monday night, and his first NBA game for
(13:57):
NBA Prime will be timberwolf S Lakers coming up on
Friday night. Kevin Harlan on the program. Given that schedule,
how's the voice.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
It's a little early.
Speaker 9 (14:10):
I don't know how you do it every morning, getting
up and belting it out, but it'll warm.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Up, Okay.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
So you do the game last night, you have the
Broncos Giants game, then you're going to have the Dolphins Falcons,
then you got Commander's Chiefs, and then you got your
first NBA game Lakers and Tea Wolves on Friday night.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
That's a lot. That's a lot. How does that?
Speaker 2 (14:32):
I mean? You got to kind of pace yourself, don't you?
For all of this and the energy you bring to
a game.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
Maybe a little bit. You know.
Speaker 9 (14:40):
When I was at TNT, we had the Sunday CBS,
the Monday west Wood One Radio, and then Tuesday NBAS.
That was three games, three nights, three different cities, flights
in between. That was difficult and that was one of
the problems I think with NBC is that they have
Tuesday game on Peacock and so the Amazon thing made
(15:03):
sense in a variety of ways, but clearly their schedule
fit what I do in football a little bit better.
And you know how the business is. You get going
and the microphones on, and you seem to we love
the business. We answer the bell and we do the
best we can.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Of all the games you've done, where does the Giants
and Broncos rank.
Speaker 9 (15:25):
I was talking to someone of the press box last
night here in Detroit, and I said, the problem with
the game like that, and you've covered a lot and
done so much, is that when it's going on and
you're seeing this monumental whatever is occurring, is that you're
trying to process it in real time. Unlike most people
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that we watched that report on it have a chance
to digest it. You've got to make sure that as
you're going, you're keeping track of all the parts that
build up to the top of the pyramid and the conclusion.
And that's just want to make sure you're button down.
But thirty three points in one quarter is a pretty
significant number. I've never done a game like that, and
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this is my forty first year doing the NFL stunning
and shocking, because even when it was twenty six to
eight and the Giants were leading in the fourth, you thought, well,
this a garbage touchdown here, They're going to just kind
of get some momentum going into the Brogers are going
to get some momentum going into the next game. And
it was hardly that. And I guess you need to
realize that these guys, once they catch a spark at
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this level, they don't let it go.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Give me the difference between your job with anticipation and reaction, Well.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
Everything for me is reaction. I don't.
Speaker 9 (16:45):
I think if you let your mind go to what
could be and make sure that I'm ready for it,
that you lose what's actually going on in front of you.
I mean, I think there are different ways to handle it,
and you've done things like this before. I think the
best stuff that comes out is the stuff that is
organic and has the true you're you're so lost in
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the game, and clearly you know what's coming up a
third down or a fourth down, or where they got
to get to the line the game.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
But I think that that.
Speaker 9 (17:17):
You just it's truly one step at a time handle
that play, and then as that play ends, make sure
you're previewing what's ahead, so you've covered what's happened and
what's to come and how that play played into what's upcoming.
So or I've always I've always leaned on the organic
side of it and let my love of sports kind
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of come out.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
I guess I kept waiting for Tampa to do something
last night. I don't know if you were getting that
sense of okay, better get it going getting late.
Speaker 9 (17:53):
Well, Baker Mayfield, I mean, they had won all these
games by three points or less, and he had come
back and engineered these phenomenal comebacks at home and on
the road. And Detroit was depleted in the secondary as
people have read and followed the game, missing most of
their starters back there, and kids that filled in were great.
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The pass rush was there that offset the loss in
the secondary, and Mayfield didn't seem to have an answer. Now, Listen,
he had Evans was out with a broken collar bonus
we learned later on in a shoulder injury and maybe
a concussion. Abuca was not one hundred percent. They're missing
the number one running back and Bucky Irving. I mean,
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they had a lot of things that they were dealing
with offensively, so Mayfield's arsenal wasn't there and the things
that made him so special early in the season. Detroit
had an answer last night. It was pretty impressive.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Talking to Kevin Harlan NFL and CBS played by play,
I feel bad having you on. I can hear it
in your voice, like, you know, just hanging there for
a couple more minutes for.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
You do anything.
Speaker 9 (19:00):
When I saw this and go, gosh, I'm not very
good in the morning, and there's a lot there's a
lot of there's a lot of stuff that's got to
be cleared out.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
But you go from pacing with TV a game on radio,
and then you go to NBA pacing, how do you
kind of you know, is there any real adjustment for
you when you're doing those different games on different you know,
whether TV or radio and different you know, foot football.
Speaker 9 (19:27):
Is such a march, and I think that just for
me personally, I'm probably better with a cadence and a
rhythm and a flow and those kinds of things, and
I try to bring more of that to football because
to my ear, it's pleasing on basketball when it's like
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a running conversation so for all these years I was
with Reggie, and we really felt like there was a
nice rhythm established. We had so many years together, and
when it's like that in the NBA and the game flows,
I mean, you know, I mean, it just flows so well.
The one thing about college basketball is that the kids
don't shoot as well and the clock is longer, so
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there's more time for an analyst to get his moment in.
Yet you can pick up the play with about eight
seconds on the shot clock, and that rhythm establishes itself,
and it really is pleasing from a broadcasting standpoint. NBA
is like a windshield, wipe it right. It's just back
and forth, baseline to baseline, but there's a rhythm that
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is established there. In the NFL, it's more like a march.
And you know, there's a segment where the analyst talks
and then you talk, and you want to get out
quickly and be efficient and let him get back to
what he's saying, because it's an analyst driven medium. In
the NFL on TV basketball I feel it's a fifty
to fifty split, But in football on TV it's analyst driven.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
How hard is it to picture an NBA post Lebron.
Speaker 9 (21:01):
Hard He's going to be out the first three four
weeks of this season, and every promo I see by
all the networks, it's Lebron making a play. He's not
going to be there in November or till November, late November,
maybe no October basketball for him. And it's it reaches
even further than that. Curry and KD. You know, this
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is the twilight of their careers, and I don't know
that anyone he has stepped up.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
There are many.
Speaker 9 (21:31):
Candidates to go in there and fill in that void,
but it's coming when they're gone, and so much of
the league is built on those three players, and it's
it's going to be hard to see like it was
when when Kobe retired and before that.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
You know, Michael, and have.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
You ever used your voice for preferential treatment.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
For preferential treatment? No?
Speaker 2 (21:54):
No, no restaurant, no no, no.
Speaker 9 (21:58):
I it is recognized from time. I'm not recognized, but
when I open my mouth, So my wife says that
that should be an indication. Don't talk just just just just.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
I get home.
Speaker 9 (22:11):
You talk all the time when you're on the road
for your work. When you come home, you're still talking.
Let's let's let's let's let's quiet, let's have quiet time.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
So you don't say I'll take the Caesar silhad.
Speaker 9 (22:22):
No, No, how do you sound so good all the time?
Hen you're you? You're I. I I've told you this before.
I admire you so much. You know it's the next
part of your show. Are your your questions? And people
probably don't. They just think it's just the flow. But
when you're doing this show, those questions and they're so efficient.
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Every kid in broadcasting should listen and and copy that stuff.
I told you that before, but I really admire it,
and I'll I'll write if I'm never doing an interview
myself and I don't do any I'll do I'll put
literally swear to God DP on the top of my
board to remind myself. Be efficient, get to the point
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and think as you go along, as opposed to having
fifteen plans.
Speaker 5 (23:09):
Questions.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Great, that's what I teach my students, economical, open ended questions.
And you're not You're not the important person. The person
you're speaking to is now go home. Rest your voice.
You don't have to use it until what Friday night.
Speaker 9 (23:26):
Now, I got shows during the week, I've got to do.
But yeah, but Friday night, Yeah, and Friday, then fly
to Atlanta on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
And once again, if the voice goes, you know, I
got your I got your Doppo ganger.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Here Fritzi is ready to go. How about Lakers Timberwolves? Todd?
Speaker 5 (23:43):
The Timberwolves are on an eleven three run. The Lakers
want to talk about it.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
This is the NBA on Amazon video.
Speaker 9 (23:50):
Okay, let me just say something about that. This will
be my I have never ever ever said and they
want to talk about it. I think I think he's channeling.
I think he's.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
Channeling a little Marv.
Speaker 9 (24:05):
Okay, but I have never I said, I said, I've
heard that before. I've never said that. I've never said
they want to talk about it. I said, uh, I
mean whatever I've said, you've called the time.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Up, we pay some bills and step aside.
Speaker 9 (24:21):
This since the NBA on Amazon property.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Have you said that before?
Speaker 5 (24:26):
Nope? But it's fun You're and him say it. I
enjoyed that.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Great to talk to you. Thanks for getting up with
us and safe travels.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
Thanks Dan, always a pleasure and great listening to you.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
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Speaker 3 (24:56):
Don't call it a comeback.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
He's Reggie Miller, the Hall of Famer, and he is
in Okay. See Rockets, Thunder seven thirty Eastern. Mike Turco's there, Reggie,
Jamal Crawford, Warriors, Lakers.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Then follow up reg how are you buddy, my.
Speaker 5 (25:12):
Friend, my friends? Oh, the we are bad. I have
missed you guys.
Speaker 10 (25:24):
Ah, this is my heart is filled right now because
of this.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Well, we're glad to have you on the team at
PEACONCK and NBC give me. Let's say the top three
storylines this year will be what well.
Speaker 10 (25:39):
Number one, we have not had back to back champions
in seven years, right, so I think number one, are
the Thunder poised to be that breakthrough team that could
be back to back champions number one. Number two look
the health of Lebron and going forward for the Lakers.
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I think with the transformation of Luca and his body
and the Lakers and having a full training camp, if
Lebron can come back or not come back and not
be the type of player that we just saw a
year ago, when he was an All NBA player. Obviously,
the Lakers are always on that radar. And who's going
to be the team in the East to break through?
(26:24):
Boston down obviously with Tatum and the Achilles injury, even
though there's rumblings he may come back, but clearly they
won't be the same. Obviously, Tyrese Halliburton and the Pacers
will be down to me. Cleveland sixty four wins a
year ago, the best record in the East, and the Knicks.
Let me say this for all my beautiful New Yorker,
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my Knicks fans.
Speaker 5 (26:48):
If y'all don't win it this year coming out the East,
something is clearly wrong.
Speaker 10 (26:53):
So to me, the two top teams in the East
are the Cavs and the Knicks. That would be my
third storyline. Who's going to break through and kind of
reign supreme in the Eastern Conference?
Speaker 3 (27:05):
All right, let me go back to the Lakers.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
When Lebron comes back, He's been the man at every
team that he's been on. Now he's not the man.
It's Luca's team. I don't know if you ever felt
that in your career, but was nineteen years like, was
there ever a point where you weren't the main guy,
but getting used to that role. And I wonder about
Lebron accepting that, or can he or does he?
Speaker 10 (27:31):
I think he can, I think he will, And yes,
I think all aging star players. I wouldn't put myself
in that category with Lebron, but we've all gone through it,
and I welcomed it, and I know exactly for me
when it happened. It was the year after we went
to the finals. I had ankle surgery. We were starting
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new Isaiah Thomas was coming in for Larry Bird.
Speaker 5 (27:56):
We had just traded for Jemaine O'Neil.
Speaker 10 (27:59):
So clearly we were going younger and if we wanted
to continue that level of excellence, I knew that I
had to take a step back. And I knew that
Jermaine O'Neill, Al Harrington, Jonathan Bender, Jamal Tinsley, those guys.
Speaker 5 (28:14):
Were going to have to grow.
Speaker 10 (28:16):
And not that Luca needs to grow, because he's already
an All NBA player, But I think this is a
welcome sight for Lebron.
Speaker 5 (28:25):
Let's remember I mentioned this before.
Speaker 10 (28:27):
He was All NBA just the year ago, and his
numbers in year twenty two were unbelievable. I don't know
if he'll have those type of numbers, but I think
taking a step back and letting Luca carry the load.
There's nothing wrong with a twenty five or twenty six
year old carrying the load. And I knew my time
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would come come playoffs when I was with Jermaine and them,
so I just kind of wanted to tread water for
the regular season, and once middle of March April hit Dan,
that's when I would ramp up my minutes, my conditioning
to get ready for the grind of the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
And I think we'll see a lot of that from Lebron.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Yeah, I think it could be a good thing that
maybe you can limit those minutes even when he comes back,
because this is about the postseason. But we're looking at
OKC is the big favorite here, Denver's also in there,
and then the East is you know, without Tatum in there,
Boston is fallible. Do you think the Knicks are the
best team in the East.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
I do.
Speaker 10 (29:31):
I think still Cleveland will have the best record and
they'll win the East again the regular season, but they
haven't proven themselves in the playoffs. And as greate as
Domovan Mitchell has been all NBA as great as Evan
Bobley is becoming, I think he'll take another step.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
I love their starting five, I love.
Speaker 10 (29:50):
Coach Kenny Atkinson, but they just haven't been able to
get over the hump come playoff time. I know the
Knicks and it's a little bit different this year now
that my Brown's at the helm, and the.
Speaker 5 (30:01):
Offense will be a little bit different.
Speaker 10 (30:03):
But at the end of the day, they've got the
best clutch player in Jalen Brunson and just the cohesiveness
of the NIXT team. I think come playoff time they'll
be able to take that next step.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
Again, there's a lot of games to be played.
Speaker 10 (30:18):
Obviously, all this is barn injury, as I always say,
but I just think the Knicks they're poised to take
that next step and represent the East.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
What do you expect out of Golden State.
Speaker 10 (30:32):
Barn injury. Look, Steph has to remain healthy. I know
he played seventy games a year ago. Draymond a full
season and training camp with Jimmy Butler.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
That can help. But to me, if the Warriors want
to take the next step, it has to come from within.
Speaker 10 (30:52):
Brandon Jamitski and Quentin Post, those two young players if
Pajemski can take that next leap.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
I know he's twenty two to twenty three, but this young.
Speaker 10 (31:03):
Man has everything it takes to be a great side
piece and sidekick for Stephen Curry. So if the younger
guys can develop, get timely shooting from Buddy Hill. The
problem is the West is loaded and there's ten to eleven
teams and every night you're going to be in a dogfight.
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So a rolled ankle by Curry and he's out for
a little bit. I don't know if there's going to
be enough scoring. You know they have a puncher's chance
because of Curry.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
I'm glad you clarified the side piece, by the way.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Just doing la work. Reggie Miller the Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
He'll be on the call tonight with Mike Tarico and
Jamal Crawford. Oh, best shooter in the building will be
who come.
Speaker 5 (31:54):
On, man, stop it.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
I love ja, best scoring, best scorer in the building.
Speaker 10 (32:00):
Now stop it too, Stop me too. I know, j
Cross unbelievable. Now you're saying who has the best handles
at the table? I'm gonna give that to Jamal.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Okay, but I was a score too, not just a shooter.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
What do you think is the ceiling for SGA to average?
How many points do you think, well, let me let
me rephrase it. How many points do you think he
could average a game? Not They probably don't want him
getting thirty They wanted to be a team effort.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
But how many Well he.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
Everged thirty two a year ago.
Speaker 10 (32:34):
I think he can average thirty five easy, just because
of his skill set. I think that number comes, it'll
come down a little bit.
Speaker 5 (32:42):
I think it'll be high early because Jalen Williams is out.
Speaker 10 (32:46):
The second best player on this team out with the
Risks injury, won't be in the starting lineup opening night,
So I think his scoring is going to be up
until Jay Dubb comes back. But I think they would
like that number anywhere between twenty eight two thirty thirty
one points because less is more. But this dude is
such a gifted playmaker and score. He's got it all DN.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
But how did he not he came up in the
three point era. He's not the top fifty with three pointers.
Speaker 10 (33:21):
But I think he's developed it to developed it to
keep teams honest. He can knock them down, but he's
a throwback. He's an old school type player that likes
to get to the mid range. And as we know,
come playoff time, what's more effective when the game becomes
a half court game, your mid range game. So during
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the regular season, everyone's all about the threes, and I
get it, but people need to understand what playoff basketball
is all about. And for a player that's so young
at the age of twenty seven to recognize that. And again,
he does have a three point shot, he just doesn't
shoot the volume of him like a lot of players do.
He understands where his bread is buttered.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Michael Jordan's rolled at NBC. What have you been told?
Speaker 5 (34:07):
Absolutely nothing?
Speaker 3 (34:10):
You're not curious?
Speaker 5 (34:11):
Oh I am very curious. I can't wait.
Speaker 10 (34:13):
I mean to have him a part of whatever part
he wants to play in this broadcast. I'm all for him. Yeah,
it's great, but they don't tell us anything. I'm very
low man on the total pole.
Speaker 11 (34:26):
No, you goto probably below you.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
You got to ask Tariko Turco.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
I think it's going to be sort of like Kobe
inside the mind of Kobe details that.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
Wouldn't you like to see that? I would love to
see that. Yeah, and you hear that.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
You imagine if he was a color commentator on a game,
he would just roast people with me.
Speaker 5 (34:46):
It wouldn't that be great.
Speaker 11 (34:48):
Including not not only the players on the court, but
he would be roasting Jericho Jamal myself.
Speaker 5 (34:58):
But I can't wait.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
But can great players get inside their own heads to explain?
Like sometimes? And I only go from memory where I
asked John mcenroy said how do you do what you do?
And he goes, I don't know, I just do it.
I don't know if great players analyze what made them great?
Speaker 10 (35:18):
Well, look, I will say what's made Charles Barkley great
on TV is that it comes from a place of honesty.
That's kind of MJMJ is front and center. He's not
going to sugarcoat anything. Mac was the same way. When
you listen to Mac on all those unbelievable you know,
Wimbledon's and French opens and US opens, it comes from
(35:40):
a place of honesty because of experience. Number one, they've
been there, they're champions. But they're just telling it like
he is. And I think a lot of people at
home they appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Kevin Durant two more years, ninety million dollars.
Speaker 10 (35:56):
This is the perfect for him, though Theodore is think
of this when I watched Houston a year ago. I
love the young talent, I love the heart, I love
the being well coached by he May. They had all
the pieces, but against Golden State in that first round
when those games got tight. As good as a champion
(36:17):
as Fred van Vliet is, he's only six to one
and he can only do so much. Now you go
out and get arguably one of the best closers, scores,
shooters that.
Speaker 5 (36:29):
This game has ever seen.
Speaker 10 (36:30):
And oh, by the way, even though he says he's
six ten, six eleven, he's really like seven to one.
Speaker 5 (36:36):
This was the perfect fit.
Speaker 10 (36:38):
For him, A veteran surrounded by some young gung slingers
and well coached, a good bench, perfect move And this
is how Diabola cole the league is.
Speaker 5 (36:48):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 10 (36:50):
Opening night, we're gonna send him back to the place
where he won an MVP, knowing that there is so
much I should say animosity towards him in this building.
Oh by the way, we're gonna raise the banner, get
our championship rings while you look on. You can't write
a better script than that theme.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Okay, what do you think his career would have been
like had he stayed in Okac, I.
Speaker 10 (37:13):
Think they would have won a championship if him and
Russ we're here, I really do. I mean, when you
were up three to one against Golden State, they were
supposed to be going head to head battle for battle
for the next five or six years.
Speaker 5 (37:27):
I really do believe they would have won a championship
here together.
Speaker 4 (37:30):
I do.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
I think the Rockets are the tallest starting five in
the NBA.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
Does that sound right?
Speaker 5 (37:36):
Yes?
Speaker 10 (37:36):
They are, and they're starting it tonight, and that's gonna
be interesting because if I'm OKC and I'm Cason Wallace,
and I'm Alex Caruso.
Speaker 5 (37:44):
And I'm SGA, I'm going like this.
Speaker 10 (37:47):
Remember the Thunder had the number one defense a year ago.
They forced the most turnovers in seventeen, they had the
most deals a game in ten. So right now, who's
bringing the ball up? I mean Thompson and who's great,
But he's six', eight six.
Speaker 5 (38:02):
Nine, i mean This Is, reed shepherd second year player Out,
of kentucky coming off.
Speaker 10 (38:10):
The bench if On the thunder, they're like bring, it
on bring, it on, big lineup how did it have to?
Speaker 5 (38:19):
Manage this because they can beat him on, The board so.
It's it there's give, and take but you're PLAYING Into
o casey's hands with that.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
Big lineup victor Wem ben yama added some weight and.
Speaker 5 (38:35):
He's.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
ARRY YEAH i I picked luca to BE the mvp.
This year it feels.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Like it Wen ben yama is gonna come in and
then once he figures a little bit more out hits the,
right people getting him the ball in the. RIGHT places
I just i think he'll be the best player, in
basket the best two way player in.
Speaker 5 (38:55):
The game well at, some, POINT yes i think. We
can we don't even have to pan sold him in
For The defensive play Of. The year should? We do
should we go straight to?
Speaker 3 (39:03):
The pen it should have been he should have.
Speaker 8 (39:05):
Won.
Speaker 10 (39:05):
It, ye yeah he didn't qualify for, games right he
was running away. With it so if he obviously qualifies
for games, this year he'll Clearly Win defensive player Of.
The year and to, YOUR point i think he will
be in the top five IN the.
Speaker 5 (39:19):
Mvp voting who do you have M, V p.
Speaker 10 (39:24):
It'll Either be Jokic or luca to, your POINT, then
sga then It's between Giannis and victor as the top Five.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
Does giannis ended his Season. In milwaukee.
Speaker 5 (39:45):
It depends on how.
Speaker 10 (39:46):
THEY start i think if they start, OFF slow i
would not be surprised if.
Speaker 5 (39:52):
BOTH sides I think i just have a feeling he
may end Up.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
In, york no They Got Karl, anthony towns the best
shooting big man of, all time self declared to be.
Speaker 5 (40:07):
The best he may be the best shooting big Man.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
In milwaukee who is the best shooting big man of?
All time.
Speaker 5 (40:17):
Are We?
Speaker 10 (40:17):
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SAY dirk i would say arvinas the bonus was a
Great Big bill lambert good shooting.
Speaker 5 (40:30):
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i Would. Say dirk.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
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yes i'm Going.
Speaker 5 (40:40):
With dirk.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
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jamal crawford career high, fifty two so might want to bring.
Speaker 10 (40:52):
That up but he's had more Fifty so i'm going
to give him credit. On, that look we both can
lace it.
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am he's. Chasing around his son is, a ballert by,
the way fifteen year. Old, son yeah he.
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Speaker 1 (41:20):
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Speaker 3 (41:24):
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Speaker 2 (41:27):
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Speaker 2 (41:38):
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Speaker 5 (41:43):
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Speaker 3 (42:05):
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