October 28, 2025 • 53 mins
There was really only one story worth discussing last night and that’s Shohei Ohtani continuing to prove he is absolutely the greatest baseball player of all time, and we are lucky to be watching him in real time. HOF QB Steve Young praises Patrick Mahomes' precision and instinct, and shares which NFL contenders he is not fully sold on. MLB Network analyst Kevin Millar marvels over Shohei Ohtani's incredible performance in the Dodgers' game 3 victory and says he still wants David Ortiz in a clutch situation over Shohei. And Basketball Hall of Famer Reggie Miller debates who the greatest two-way basketball player of all-time is and gives his thoughts on the ongoing NBA gambling scandal.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
There are a lot of people in Los Angeles doing
the following this morning.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
That was a long game.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Late night, six hours, thirty nine minutes, one of the
greatest World Series games that maybe you didn't see. That's
one of those where you go, I'm going to be
watching SportsCenter in the morning and one of the great
home runs of all time that I don't know how
many people got to see Freddie Freeman go deep to
win that game last night. All right, come on in,
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of the Day. All of that coming up. So the
Dodgers beat the Blue Jays on Freddie Freeman's home run
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in the eighteenth as they lead two games to one.
Can we play what it sounded like?
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Marvin?
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Do we have the call? On AM five seventy, Little
delivers Freeman. It's one high in the air, straightaway center
field parcel, petal walk.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Freddie Freeman missed a World Series ends.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
The marathon at midnight.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Freddie Freeman is one of four players with multiple walk
off home runs in the postseason, so David Ortiz, Bernie
Williams in Carlos, Korea, but Freddie is the only player
in baseball history with multiple walk off home runs in
the World Series. Shoho tani Oh, by the way, had
two home runs two doubles. They also walked him five times,
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four intentionally. And that's one of those moments where, and
we were talking about this earlier this morning, we're actually
watching the greatest baseball player of all time. We're watching
him in real time. It's happening right now. It's not
one of those Hey, you should have seen that guy play.
He's the greatest baseball player.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Of all time.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Babe Ruth did something, but he didn't do it together.
He didn't do a combination. That doesn't mean he couldn't
have done it, but he didn't do it. He was
a great pitcher, best pitcher in the game, and then
all of a sudden decided to be the greatest hitter.
Show Hey Otani with what he and he pitches tonight,
So you're going to have that performance where you walk
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him four times. And I talked about this when the
series started. If you don't have left handed pitching against
the Dodgers, you're in trouble because you don't have you
got Freddie Freeman and show Hey Otani, and if you
don't have somebody that you can bring in and go,
I can.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Get that guy out.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
They've gotten to the point where he's getting Bond's treatment
and I want you to pitch in shame.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
If you're going to intentionally walk him.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
I want you to throw the four pitches that look
silly because you don't want to face him. I don't
want it to be I had we're going to walk
him and I point him to first base. Nope, I
want you to pitch in shame. I want you to
acknowledge that you can't get him out, and you throw
those four pitches. But I mean one of the home runs,
I went, oh.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
What are we doing?
Speaker 2 (03:57):
What do you How could you possibly put it anywhere
near that? And they did, and I'm thinking, oh, my goodness,
so Ohtani made him pay. Freddie Freeman made him pay.
There was one nervous moment there when Clayton Kershaw was
in with the bases loaded.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
I just was like, just get the out, go, sit down,
don't pitch anymore, and maybe you win the World Series.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
But they would cut away to his wife.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Oh, you talk about the ebb and flow, the highs
and lows, and you rarely think about when you're the
family is there watching this, Oh, just get off the mount.
That's all I could think of. But watching that last night,
or at least as long as I could. You're watching
the best player in baseball history.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Now.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
I know people are going to say, well, what about
Babe Ruth. Babe was a better hitter. But what he
is doing at the same time, And imagine, just imagine
if he goes out there tonight and pitches at five
or six innings quality baseball and everybody emptied their bullpen
like this is one of those losses. That's not just
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one loss. You used your bullpen, you realize you can't
pitch to Otani, and all of a sudden you're gonna
face him on the mound. That was That was monumental
I think last night. But up two games to one.
I know it's only one game. All it takes is,
you know, a couple of breaks going your way, but
that one, that one's stinging, and you got to turn
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around and go back out there and play again tonight.
And then the next game is on Wednesday. So these
pitching staffs are really going to be taxed. But that's
where if you get Yamamoto, who gives you a complete game,
if Otani can give you five or six innings here,
you have an incredible advantage here. All right, See, let's
pull question for hour one.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Yeah, you know, when you look at his at bats
last night, show Heotani, he had a double, a home run,
a double, a home run. He was then intentionally walked
four straight times and then walk the fifth time.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
That's a hell of a night. Yeah, when you're talking
about let me see. So he walked five times, four intentionally,
reach based nine times nine times in the game, the
only player to be walked intentionally four times in a
postseason game since they started tracking this in nineteen fifty five.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
It's fine, Paul is just saying, if you took that
series of at bats from show Hey, Tony, just from
last night, that's good enough to win a World Series MVP.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
For the whole series, so week, the whole thing. If
you had two doubles and two home runs, well, he
won the National League the NLCS MVP based off one game,
and he might win this MVP wait based off one game.
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Steve Young, Hall of Famer, three time Super Bowl champ
with the Niners and won a Super Bowl MVP as well.
Back on the program Good to see You again? Is
there a show heyo Tani in the NFL?
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Or was there?
Speaker 7 (07:38):
Oh? Patrick? Patrick?
Speaker 8 (07:40):
As close as anybody, right, I mean that's that's as
close as you get.
Speaker 7 (07:46):
But no show. How you're Tony? I mean, I mean
pitch and a hit. That's I was just make fun
of baseball in front of my baseball friends, Like you know,
I got a blister for fifteen days. You know, you
know it's like then they go, oh six two games
or the sixteen like you know, we just go back
and forth. But baseball, when you're pitching the ball, when
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you're pitching and shutting people out and hitting home run
that game a couple weeks ago. That was the old timers.
So no, Patrick Mahomes is the one guy right now
that I would put in that spot. But there are
some Superman Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson when he's helping Superman.
You know, there's some cool people to watch. That's for sure. Entertaining.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Knowing that we were going to have you on today,
I was thinking about this last night watching Patrick Mahomes
keep a play alive. The difference between keeping a play
alive and what these younger quarterbacks do and kind of
scrambling it. You know, is it semantics here because Mahomes
seems to always do something correct, where these younger guys
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try to extend a play and they end up getting sacked.
Speaker 7 (08:51):
Man, you're bringing up the most important question in sports,
because if the NFL is the biggest sport in the game,
in the quarterback the most important position. This is the
most important question for quarterbacks because the game today, of
course we talk about every.
Speaker 8 (09:05):
Week or whenever I'm on about the fact that it's
now a game that's wide open and you have to
attack the line of scrimmage from the quarterback position or
else you're out and so then becomes the question that
I had to deal with my whole life is when
do you go when?
Speaker 7 (09:19):
And what are we doing while we're waiting? And I
think that's and then how do you coach it? So
many really smart quarterback coaches are now having to adjust
and figure out how do I coach a guy who
can move around and can threaten line of scrimmage? And
so young players like I think of just fields right
now going through this incredible challenge of when like the
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incredible athlete, right I can do amazing things, Yet I
need to be a sophisticated passer. I know it. I
know in my heart that's what I've got to become.
And so how do I hang in there and fake
it till I make it kind of thing? And then
when do I need to go? Because I don't really know,
I'm not really sure. So I really got to lean
on my athleticism. So the question of the day is
that how do I how do I know that? Patrick
(10:03):
Mahomes says we find it where he doesn't move unless
it's purposeful. And because he owns the data, he's he's
been around a long time, He's he is a sophisticated
passer from the pocket, and so that allows him to
get the most out of every play. And when you
get the most out of every play, then you know
when the play is dead one it's done, or I
don't have a choice, I'll go. And once I go,
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that's a whole other plays to play that that's a
play we didn't call, but it's a play we get.
And now I get another chance to run the run
a new play on offense, and then I have another play,
a third play. I'm actually gonna run it and he
and he has that unique ability of his body. It's
like he doesn't even really trying or he's kind of
like gliding and people are missing and he's like, so
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there's there's three really in distinct plays for Patrick, and
when you really understand the game, you can't. That's how
it's also hard to stop. And the young players, they
have three plays, but they don't run them right and
they're trying to figure out how to run him.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Can you single out the greatest season of quarterback has
ever had.
Speaker 7 (11:03):
Because it's their adjusted You've got different times and places
and you know, it's impossible to me. There are some
amazing years that people have had, but I mean, obviously,
I guess you've got to be the MVP and run
to win the Super Bowl to make it that list. Yeah,
and then it becomes pretty subjective to people about what
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you know, how old they are when it happened, and
you know who they liked, and you.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Know that kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Yeah, because I'm looking at Mahomes and I'm thinking, while
watching Otania, I'm witnessing the greatest baseball player of all time.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
I am.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
I'm watching it right. I got to see Michael Jordan play.
I'm witnessing that firsthand. And I'm watching Mahomes and he's
not the greatest quarterback of all time, but I'm watching
him play a position that's the toughest position in all
the sports, and he plays it in such a unique way.
And he's played it where he throws for fifty touchdowns
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and then he throws for twenty five touchdowns and is
still as effective.
Speaker 7 (12:04):
Yeah, and I think, Okay, first of all, let's back up,
I mean, real quickly, a little history lesson. We do
this every time. Ten years ago, they changed the rules
and the rules where you can't launch defenders in the
head first, and so it opened the game up and
so it changed so that now you can run college plays,
you can run the slipscreen, you can run all the
cool stuff and fun stuff. And Patrick is the person
for today's game. And then let's not hit ourselves. The
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innovative minds who jumped into that rule change, Andy Reid,
Kyle Shaney, and Sean McVay, Sean Payton. That was the
big four that jumped in and had a tactical advantage
for a little while. So you've married one of the
most innovative minds and continually innovative and Andy Reid with
Patrick Mahomes. That's what I watch every week. I do.
I don't watch it, but just Patrick Mahomes every week.
I watch Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes every week and
(12:50):
how they have combined to create all this fun stuff
and then Patrick refined its gain you. I appreciate what
you're saying. This is a time for us to watch
Patrick Mahons and just sit back in awe of the athleticism,
the brain, the into intuition, and the presence. One thing
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I remember when I watched The Monday Night I was
there in Denver when he first started, and he was
he was I was standing right the sidelines and I
and I have a set. I've watched quarterbacks my whole life,
and I had this feeling. It's like he looks like
he's playing in the backyard, like just his press. This
is how he feels like. It's just nothing. Really is
kind of laughing and have a good time. And here's
his first start. He's scrambling left and right. At the
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end of the scramble, he takes the ball from his
right and throws it and puts it in his left
and throws it for a completion maybe Kelsey or so,
I can't remember. And I'm like, and then he stood
up and he's like, how about I making sure? He
said to the rough how about that? And I thought
to myself, I could only dream of being that guy
that could just like be in the backyard, but yet
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playing the best football and the world. I think he's
he's he's a magical person.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Talking to Steve Young, the Hall of Famer, give me
the team that you're still not sure about?
Speaker 7 (14:11):
How about a list, meaning the Eagles, I don't I'm
not sure, really, Packers, I'm not sure. They're getting more sure.
Obviously last week, the last last week was the truth
when every game was like, well, that's the truth. And
so the truth throughout the league was we've been met.
We went through the preseason of September, we've kind of
figured out who we are. Now we're gonna you know, now,
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we're going to tell you the truth. And that's why
the Eagles I think we're you know, in the Giants
that was the truth, and the Packers was the truth.
And so there's a lot of teams the Rams like like,
I'm getting to know those teams that figure that they're
going to be there in the end. Uh. And but
who do you want to talk about? Because I mean, I.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Think like the Colts, it feels like we're going to
wait until the postseason to go.
Speaker 7 (14:54):
I told you you haven't done it. Daniel Jones like
the Colts, like, it's just you, we're all we're all
tree majors, right, And so the Colts are not that
historical last ten fifteen years like, oh yeah, the Colts
will be there now. The Chiefs, you know, you've got
to figure they're going to be there, and their bills
or the figure they'll be there. The Eagles and even
the Packers I understand all that. The Colts they always
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have to figure out how to prove it to you
in January February. That's just because they're new. When you're new,
you got it. No one cares like, Hey, this is fun,
this is nice. But we'll see, we'll see in January
when you go to Kansas City.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Kansas City's got the Bills coming up, they got a
bye week, they're at the Broncos, they host the Colts.
Speaker 7 (15:36):
It's fun. But I always said regular season. I mean, when
we played the Cowboys in regular season, whoever won that games? Like,
you know, it didn't it mattered, but it didn't matter.
I just it wasn't the thing. It'll it's a sign,
it's important, it's not nothing. But it's also not January.
So I think there's a different shift to make sure
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you keep that in mind.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
But how do you trying harder at the quarterbacking position
as a regular season game against the Cowboys and then
a postseason game.
Speaker 7 (16:09):
It always reminded me during the week when you have
a big game coming up and you have some quote
from one of the other team's defensive line like we're gonna,
we're gonna get Steve Other. I'm gonna I'm so focused,
and like really I mean honestly, like you're more focused
to kill me than the week before when you want
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to go like stop. And that's why I think even
from the teams and quarterbacks like there's it is an
emotional game. That's why New Rocky's famous, right because he
made a speech. Every're like, oh we're great, like it is.
You have to be inspired to run into people. So
it does matter, and it does and you can get
lulls of emotion and you see games where people are
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flat and it really shows up football. But trying extra
hard that really the best teams dan don't. It's like
they don't look like they're trying extra hard. If they're
still focused, they're still they're but sure about it. Right,
It's like we come out of the locker room. We're
actually not care. We don't care who we play. We
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know that we're about trying to find out how good
we are and that's what we that's our quest. And
so this if you're if you think you're pretty good, great,
come on in. We'll check you out and we'll see
how I'll see how we stand. The mature teams don't rock,
you know, get off and oh my gosh, this is
the game, and then the next week's like, oh flat,
that's the Cowboys.
Speaker 8 (17:29):
That's that's how they wrote and and that's not as
mature when we were.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
I was growing up and playing football, you're always cognizant
of this is going to hurt. I'm gonna get hit,
this is gonna hurt. Like when do you graduate two?
You don't think about that's going to hurt when.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
I get hit? Do you graduate to that point where
you don't think about it?
Speaker 7 (17:52):
I will tell you, Dad, I think that's probably why
you're not pro. I don't think I ever really thought.
Speaker 9 (17:57):
To myself, oh this is but I will say I'm
football is the truth, and no one ever, at the
moment of impact thinks, oh, I'm getting paid.
Speaker 7 (18:12):
You might think about it when you're a line of scrimmage.
You're thinking that I'm getting paid and this is good,
and then all of a sudden they gain and then
so when you get hit. And that's why football is
such an amazing game, because there is a truth to
it that no one, no one's, no one cares at
the moment of impact, who's who's getting paid what, And
that's what really matters. And that's very pro Yeah, I won't.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
No, I think hold on here, I think we got
a we lost you a little bit. Wait are you
back now?
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Can you hear?
Speaker 7 (18:50):
I'm here?
Speaker 3 (18:50):
You got it? Okay?
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Yeah, that you chopped up a little bit there. So
whatever that genius was that you were saying, yeah, I'm
sure very There's.
Speaker 7 (19:00):
So many guys that start in the league and they're
the most amazing athletes in the in the league, and
then they find their way out of the out of
the game in three or four years and you're like,
what happened to that guy? Well, what happened that guy
is he didn't love football. He worried. He thought about, Wow,
this is gonna hurt. Like it the game itself, there's
a love for it that that the pros the pro
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game forces you know, it's a referendum on whether you
love it or And I've seen a lot of amazing
athletes that just don't love it in the game and
the pro game. The college game doesn't force you out
like that, the cheerleaders and the alumni and all that stuff,
but pro game it's the referendum. And the guys leave
the game because that you just said, this is going
to hurt, and then they just and the guys that
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play forever, they actually never think about it, which is weird.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
But you got hurt, you got hit, you suffered concussions,
but but you never thought, God, that hurts, or this
is gonna hurt that you see somebody coming right out,
you go the kind of this is gonna hurt.
Speaker 7 (19:55):
Well, I remember the fridge. I remember William the fridge
three eighty. You know, his football card said three fifty
if you admit three fifty your forte And I remember
he got me up under my chin, right straight up
and then was hoppling me over and was gonna land on.
I thought, I'm gonna die, like this is it could be.
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There's no way my body can withstand this. And it did.
It didn't. I thought it would break. It didn't break,
which is crazy. I did, but it did take the
wind out of me, but it didn't break me. But
I think, yeah, there's well, here's how I'll say it.
If it hurts during the game, you you're gonna it's
gonna be a problem the next week. Like you usually,
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adrenaline and everything else you don't really notice. And then
after the game in the shower you're like, oh, wrap
that hurts, but then that's something that's gonna give you know,
you figure out by Wednesday. But if it hurts during
the game and you're on the sideline and like man,
then you you got a problem. That's how you know.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Well, like Cam scattaboo, so dislocates his ankle, but he's
I don't know if the body protects you in that
moment or they're shocked because he's pointing. He knows that
it's serious, but it doesn't look like he's in agony.
And I don't know what happens to the body in
a moment like that where you see guys blow out
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their knee or you know, have devastating injuries and then
they get carted off and they're giving a thumbs up
to the crowd, I'd be weeping.
Speaker 10 (21:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (21:24):
I think sometimes I would say that I didn't have
anything terrible ever happened, which I'm grateful for. But the
guys that I know who did talk about it as
if especially in knee when it's kind of blown out,
it doesn't like it doesn't hurt like the pains you
know already happened. But it just depends. But I'm telling you,
the toughest humans beings I have ever known played football.
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I'm sure I wasn't in a lot of other spots
where the top shoe means hang out, but I did
hang out in football. And I'm telling you that I
remember going back to my Tampa Bay days the season
I played in Tampa with James Wilder James Alden running
back from Missouri, and we were two and fourteen, and
I remember thinking, like, you guys are losers. I'm like,
have you met James Wilder? That dude is not a loser.
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That then, is the toughest human being I think I've
ever met my life. And that's the other thing that
you just you don't realize that so many guys are
toiling in the NFL that you don't know that aren't
the toughest bath as you ever late.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
I mean, yeah, but you gave him the ball three
hundred and fifty times.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
The poor guy.
Speaker 7 (22:26):
Don't make up some number like you got you're that fast.
You're not that fast at the stat.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Okay, Paulie, would you check and see Wilder I think
has had the most carries in a season in NFL
his I.
Speaker 7 (22:36):
Think it was like four oh seven for the record,
which you just trying to come.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
On, don't don't show Why didn't you throw the ball
a little bit? Steve gave it to James Wilder.
Speaker 7 (22:47):
The goodest story James over in the blizzard in Green Bay.
And I'm sorry if I repeat this story and I
had not completed a ball. I'm like, oh, for eleven
and it's like the second quarter and I'm like, my
first game ever played, say game I've ever played in
the NFL. I turned to James, like, James, jump in
front of me, and I'm going to shovel the ball
to you so I have a completion, because I'm afraid
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I don't want to be the only quarterback in the
history of the game that you don't have a completion.
So you can see his stats that day. It's Wilder
of one catch fight its PAULI.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Do you have the numbers there on Wilder?
Speaker 11 (23:20):
The most carries James Wilder had for Tampa was nineteen
eighty four, four hundred and seven carries fifteen and forty
four yards hem.
Speaker 7 (23:28):
And he you talk about feeling every one of them
like he was a tough man. And so that's what
I guess what you're saying is there's guys that aren't
ready for the game because they are the toughest humans
you ever met.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Do you have your Tampa jersey framed?
Speaker 7 (23:45):
No, I don't have anything frame, but I think I
have a Tampa jersey. I'm very proud of this. You know,
it's funny that season. It was fun into being a
team that was so dysfunctional and but yet such good guys.
But just the culture, the leader shift, it was just
a mess. It was a total mess.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Because I would have one that was game used because
you probably have grass stains and turfalls.
Speaker 7 (24:08):
So we have these orange jerseys, but because they can't
find any material it's orange, they get it from, you know,
somewhere where it's thick. It's like this thick you can
almost fold it and it would.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Make a freeze, you know what I mean, Like and
it was hot down there.
Speaker 7 (24:22):
Does anyone know we're in Tampa? Like, where's the match? Bro?
Gives me some orange mesh? Why do we have to
have this thick like Canadian it's stupid stuff like that.
You're just like, come on, man, like, like let's get
this figured out.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Good to talk to you again, Daniel good Man, Thank you, Steve.
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Speaker 2 (24:58):
Kevin Milan won a World Series championship with the Four
Red Sox. The MLB Network analyst and you can see
him with Ryan Dempster. That'll be MLB Network every day
starting at five Eastern covered the World Series. How do
you feel today?
Speaker 10 (25:13):
I feel amazing. We've had a great night here.
Speaker 11 (25:16):
We all came up to my room, Denny, I had
Ryan Dempster, we had Mark durosa Team USA manager, had
a buddy coming down. But I'm gonna tell you didn't
realize we're gonna be here for eighteen inights.
Speaker 10 (25:26):
It kept getting better and better and better.
Speaker 11 (25:29):
And I want to ask you one question is is
sho Hail tani Ai? Because what he does on the
field doesn't make sense. I think we all just sit
here and go yep, I'm just gonna go back to
the computer board. He'll go awfu awful, taco crazy.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
I think it's gotten to the point where they're not
going to pitch to him.
Speaker 11 (25:48):
You can't like we were sitting there last night It
was so fascinating because you know Mark was playing I
files the bench coach and what would you do here?
And would you take out Kirk to pinch run And
there's so many decisions before they happen, right before we
all play armchair quarterback.
Speaker 10 (26:03):
Fascinating. Yeah, you have to, and then you're sitting.
Speaker 11 (26:05):
Here, you walking him to a former MVP in Mookie Betts,
and then if you want to get by him, then
you get another former IVP mister World Series. So it's
fascinating and how you do it. I just got to
walk up. He's proven to you, but.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
As he gotten to the Barry Bonds status when it
comes to you just can't pitch to him.
Speaker 10 (26:24):
You just can't because you think you can. And even
when he.
Speaker 11 (26:28):
Walked you know that last at bet when it wasn't
just put him on. You see the stress though, Like
this poor pitcher's trying to not not throw strike Seafields fan.
Speaker 10 (26:38):
But like we are.
Speaker 11 (26:40):
If I tell you Dad, hey, stay away and then
you just like lead one curveball up, you know, it's
like it might be embarrassing.
Speaker 10 (26:46):
And that's what he can do to you.
Speaker 7 (26:47):
Dan.
Speaker 11 (26:47):
You know that like you'll get embarrassed. A home runs
a home run, then I'll put you in the parking lot.
And when you're the last row of the of the
of the bleachers and you and I are sitting back
there with the nine hundred dollars ticket these days and
usually the home runs kind of go oh yeah.
Speaker 10 (27:00):
Who's gonna catch it? And now they go like this,
heads up in the parking.
Speaker 11 (27:05):
Lot, guys, Yeah, there's a ball bouncing.
Speaker 10 (27:08):
It just doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Uh, Schuresier can't get away with that pitch. Maybe a
younger Sureser can. But you keep like they're just places
where the other home run I got's a terrible pitch
I got right. If I'm making a mistake, my mistake
is never gonna be across the plate.
Speaker 7 (27:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (27:28):
It's funny because you know, any way, you got the
droop text, you're trying to there's four thousand different things
and John Smoltzen I was all of us were on
this text and he's kind of like they're pitching him
not so good.
Speaker 10 (27:37):
He is amazing, but you do have to be careful,
you know.
Speaker 11 (27:41):
And there's this old story, like you know, I told
Ryan when we faced Barry Bonds. Everybody walks Arry Bonds.
I said, just throw the four seamer, just go after him.
Speaker 10 (27:49):
Let's see what he has. Well he had it.
Speaker 7 (27:51):
You know.
Speaker 10 (27:51):
A few pitches later Ryan was coming in. He was like,
thanks for that one. He could hit. That's what happens, though.
Speaker 11 (27:56):
You know that you and I are sitting there and
we're watching this game, like, are they gonna walk me
to say, well, no, just go at him a little bit,
maybe just a little bit.
Speaker 10 (28:03):
There's no little bit like in the World Series.
Speaker 11 (28:05):
In this kind of a moment, you're just gonna have
to say, Mookie Bett's gonna have to beat us.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
And I started to wonder about the impact that this
will have on tonight's game because Otani's pitching, So you
play eighteen innings. Most pitchers aren't doing anything prior to
that night that they're going to be pitching. This is
where you cement a legacy if you're Otani. If he
goes out there and throws five quality innings. I mean,
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we might be looking back on this, you know, ten
fifteen years from now and telling our kids' grandkids we
did see the greatest performance in baseball history.
Speaker 10 (28:42):
It is there's not words.
Speaker 11 (28:45):
You don't know what word to use, and I'm a
motive going in or to warm up, like for him
to come down, whatever you need me to do, like
you got goose mumps when you saw him walk to
the bullpen, yellone, like Otani there was a steady seven
for seven his last with five home runs and two doubles, like.
Speaker 10 (29:05):
Dero looked at me.
Speaker 11 (29:06):
Durosa goes, we're watching the Lily World Series, like these
are numbers to hit a big league home run in
the postseasons big and now we start hearing like these
numbers like George Springer has you know, twenty seven postseason
home runs and you're like watching O'tani make this look
like a video game.
Speaker 10 (29:21):
It's not that easy, guys. I want everybody to understand
that it's not that easy.
Speaker 11 (29:25):
And the seven hundred and fifty million dollars contract that
we all sat back, going, good lord, have mersey.
Speaker 10 (29:30):
He's almost underpaid. He should have been paid two point seven.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Billion, right, it's not your money, no, you and I I'll.
Speaker 10 (29:37):
Give a percentage of the team.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
My goodness, gracious, who would you want up in a
clutch situation?
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Big Poppy or show he.
Speaker 10 (29:47):
Oh, big poppy brother.
Speaker 11 (29:49):
I mean I only can speak from just sharing with
the guy and loving the guy and just understanding what
he did for us in games four.
Speaker 10 (29:57):
And five, like, hey, just come on and get on
my back.
Speaker 11 (29:59):
I'm gonna go deep off control and then we're gonna
go have a twelve pitching bag against Lewisa. Thank you,
We'll head to New York game six. Now, that's a
great question. Listen, oh Tony, what he's doing now is just,
I mean stupid. Right, we all, Poppy didn't get out
in twenty thirteen, it felt, and Pompy didn't get out
with us when we needed every big RBI.
Speaker 10 (30:16):
I would take David or too.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Final answer, I don't know if showering him, you know,
being in the shower with him has anything to do
with his performance at the plate. But I'll leave that
up to you and Poppy. Must be a special relationship
you have there. We're talking about Kevin Malar MLB network analysts.
All right, how did the Blue Jays get back in this?
Speaker 11 (30:35):
I think they they have shown everybody they punched back.
They punched back. You know, you sit back, even in
game one when they face Snell. We're sitting there in
Toronto and without man the daughters, I mean they just
mean the Blue Jays, right, don't have a jams. Yeah,
I mean, yeah, they have a chance. But you know
they come in as there's an underdog, there's a favorite.
They're an underdog, no doubt.
Speaker 10 (30:52):
Right.
Speaker 11 (30:52):
Blake Snell's giving up a run in postseed starts in
fourteenth straight as he's starting the game, and you saw
them battle, battle, battle, and then boom and they punched
right and you saw him last night. Edmund has a
big air obviously, Alejandro Kirk. If you don't have a
man crush on him, Dan Patrick, and you're not a
sports fan, if you don't think you can get in
the box, spread out, get load of the base.
Speaker 10 (31:13):
Their simple movement, just a little bit of a shoulder.
Speaker 11 (31:16):
Lean and his barrel and his bat just stays right
through here this plane. He will rifle stuff foul, he
will battle on breaking balls. And for him to get
up there and hit that three run home run in
that moment, let's talk about that like it just doesn't
make sense. And they go down one, they keep punching
and punching, and you feel it when bar shows up,
you feel he can put one in the streets. They
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have a lineup vlag Garrel Junior, I think is growing
in front of our eyes. You're looking at an athlete.
You're looking at a great defender at first base. You
probably paid these better than you thought at first base
along with everybody else. He's smart, he's running the base
as well, and he's electric at the place. So I
think they punched back. How do they get back in it?
The question is can Shane Bieber beat the Dodgers? I
think the question for me was could Max Scherzer and
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Shane Bieber beat the Dodgers. They're gonna have to find one,
and so now it's up to Shane. Don't call me Justin.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
Yamamoto reminds me of Pedro Martinez a little bit.
Speaker 10 (32:12):
You know what, that's a great comp in. Pedro's prime,
little guy, easy, easy, v low and and.
Speaker 11 (32:18):
Hits those four quadrants where he wants what the execution
on that three to two curveball to Vlad in Game
two and then Barshaw got it also, like the ability
to throw seventy four to seventy six hour breaking ball
for ninety seven is split x kid too, and he's great,
He's unbelievable.
Speaker 10 (32:34):
I mean, you're looking at You're looking at some stuff
in the series.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Most famous person in the crowd last night, Justin Bieber.
Speaker 11 (32:40):
I want to go use the restroom, and there are
seventeen people surrounding it. And when you got to go
the bathroom, and you know that when you gotta go potty,
you're ready to go potty, and you kind of closer
you get to a bathroom, your mind's already saying yay,
they're right there. So it gets worse and then all
of a sudden, you get the back up, excuse me,
I gotta go potty, sir, back up. Bieber's in there.
I know that, But I played in the show. I
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mean I took chanhell Park deep there. Vinceculley now fit.
Speaker 7 (33:04):
That didn't count.
Speaker 11 (33:05):
That that count And then they were soon I give
my peaches down to Georgia.
Speaker 10 (33:10):
I get my blank in California. So yeah, it was
Justin Bieber's the one.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Okay, you didn't get to say loa to him, did.
Speaker 10 (33:18):
You, No, no, no, I couldn't get to him.
Speaker 11 (33:20):
I was gonna try together there and get a quick
selfie in the bathroom, but it didn't work out.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
But he's uh, he had his Blue Jays jersey on.
Speaker 11 (33:27):
Oh yeah, that's what's cool like Drake, Like here in
Toronto and then there's there's Drake. You forget the fans
come out right. But Blue Jay fans are awesome. The
whole country is awesome. They got six million watching. He
was electric there. Dodger Stadium was phenomenal last night. The
weather you can't you can't paint a better picture right now.
There's no shadows. That's the good news. And so we'll
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see what goes on tonight.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
Good to talk to you, Thanks for getting up.
Speaker 11 (33:52):
Always great to see you, and I'll see you on
our show at some point. You're coming on with your
shirt off?
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Oh, with my shirt off?
Speaker 10 (33:57):
Yeah, I want your shirt off. It t after dark.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Hoops, I'm worried about you, you know, big poppy in
the shower.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
You want me with my shirt off? Like, what's going
on here?
Speaker 10 (34:09):
That' sturts? Get daddy, You know that we didn't talk
about Shillings, and we talked about.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
When's the last time you talked to Kurt Shilling?
Speaker 10 (34:17):
Got it? It's been a little bit, you know, it's
been a little bit.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
But yeah, why is he not in the Hall of Fame?
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Man?
Speaker 10 (34:24):
I don't know every fifth day, man, you wanted him
on the mountain. You know that.
Speaker 11 (34:26):
I mean, he it seems like all these great ones,
right Kershaw on the baseloader moment, we don't saying about that,
like are you kidding me?
Speaker 10 (34:33):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 3 (34:34):
Like I was holding I was holding my breath.
Speaker 10 (34:37):
It was Yeah, you could have seen what happened. Happened perfectly,
like just just absolutely grinding at bat. And I love
Freddy's comment saying we saw eighty nine on the slider.
He goes, I knew we were in pretty the old school.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Shaw, Thank you. keV.
Speaker 10 (34:54):
Alright, pal, We'll see you guys.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
That's Kevin Malah.
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Speaker 2 (35:37):
I always think of those fan bases like the Red
Sox looking at Mookie Bats, the Braves, Freddie Freeman, Angel
fans looking at show Hey Tani, Red G. Miller, Angels
fan Hall of Famer. He'll be on the call with
Mike Cherico and Jamal Crawford. It's the Knicks and the
Bucks tonight on NBC and Peconic tip off eight Eastern.
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How does that feel to be an Angels fan watching show?
Speaker 3 (36:03):
Hey Otani Theodore.
Speaker 12 (36:05):
I'm so glad you brought this up because I need
to know this, because I need to know the inner circles.
How in the world did my beloved California Angels. I'm
not even gonna call him the Los Angeles. There are
the California Angels. To me, how could we have ever
seen show Hey O'tani and Mike Trout in the same
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uniform on the same team. How could we ever see
show hey walk out the door?
Speaker 10 (36:35):
Now, I know he was a free agents and free
agent and he can.
Speaker 12 (36:38):
Go anywhere he wants, but we should have gave him
part ownership of that team.
Speaker 10 (36:44):
There's no way he should have ever.
Speaker 12 (36:47):
And not only does he leave, he goes right down
the road to the Dodgers.
Speaker 10 (36:55):
It kills me. It kills me.
Speaker 12 (36:58):
I know it's not very popular to be an Angel
fan in Dodgerland.
Speaker 10 (37:01):
I've been, but I grew up because of my brother Darrel.
As you know I am. I'm a diehard Angel fan
and it just ow. Come on, talk to me like
I'm a kindergarten.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
They should have given him part of Disneyland, you know,
they should.
Speaker 12 (37:19):
Yes, whatever you wanted, they should have given it to him,
whatever you wanted.
Speaker 3 (37:25):
Is there the best two ways?
Speaker 2 (37:27):
So pitching and hitting, he's probably the greatest baseball player
of all time, but the best two way player in
NBA history.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
Is in terms of basketball. Yeah, best two way player
in the NBA in history.
Speaker 12 (37:45):
I would say, uh, Kawi comes to mind.
Speaker 10 (37:55):
Two way offensive defense, right.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
But he's not better offensively than and he's not better
defensively than Jordan.
Speaker 12 (38:04):
I would say he's on part defensively with Jordan. He's
not offensively as good as Jordan.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
Okay, Elijah one.
Speaker 10 (38:14):
Ding Dean for the win. Oh here's another one.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
Kareem Early in his career.
Speaker 12 (38:21):
Okay, well early in his career he was he was that.
I would I would say Kareem or.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
Hakeem because I know it's not it's not apples to
apples with what Otani is doing. But you do have
to play defense, and you know Mahomes doesn't have to
play defense in the NFL. Correct, So just to be
able to go to the other end and not be
a liability or to be a stopper, I don't know
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do we have stoppers anymore in the NBA.
Speaker 12 (38:51):
I will say in today's generation, in today's games, I
would put Jannis in that category. He averages thirty, but
he does a good job on defensive end. I think
last season's MVP SGA Shay is a pretty good two
way player as well. Gives you thirty two at one end,
and I think he was second in steals a year ago.
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Those two guys come to mind again. I mentioned Kawhi
Leonard Victor. Oh, he's changing the game, right.
Speaker 10 (39:23):
He is.
Speaker 12 (39:24):
I'm every time you turn into a Spurs game, you're
gonna see something new.
Speaker 10 (39:29):
So last night it was the three sixty layup, right, it's.
Speaker 12 (39:33):
He will do one thing when you leave that arena
or watching that game, going I gotta see more.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
He took three, he took a logo three and he's
got good form.
Speaker 10 (39:47):
He's got great form.
Speaker 12 (39:48):
And I think just looking at him, it looks like
he's put on not a lot of weight, but he
looks like he's a little bit more I don't know,
more comfortable.
Speaker 10 (39:58):
In his skin.
Speaker 12 (39:58):
He put on like maybe ta pounds or something, but
he's much more comfortable out there on the floor. It's
and for them to be undefeated at this point. I
know it's early, it's only a week into the season. Look,
they're not winning the championship, but I like how they
are playing as a young team.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
And you're seeing him. He should have been Defensive Player
of the Year. He didn't play enough games to qualify.
He's only twenty one. He can guard the perimeter from
the paint. He's averaging six blocks now, he can shoot
shoot the three. He's got a handle. They're putting him
in different positions on the block where he can succeed.
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And I said this, I got Lucas the MVP this year,
but after that, I've got Victor.
Speaker 3 (40:47):
I'm gonna take Victor the next five years.
Speaker 12 (40:49):
After that, we'll look for Luca and for Victor to win. Obviously,
team success is going to play a counterpoint. So if
the Spurs continue to play like this, I say the
Spurs end in a top four in a loaded Western Conference, yes,
he'll win the same with Luca Luca in the Lakers,
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They've got to finish in the top four. To me,
it'd be I know, I think Jokic wanted a few
years ago, and Denver was I believe six in the
Eastern or in the Western Conference, so there is precedents
for that. But I think if either one of those teams,
the Lakers or the Spurs, finish in the top four
in the very heavy loaded Western Conference, one of them
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will win MVP.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
If I said, you can have Luca or you can
have Victor Victor, Okay, is there any player you would
take over Victor winbin Yama for let's say the next
five years.
Speaker 12 (41:48):
Well, he's only twenty one, but to me, Sga Cannet,
he cannot go wrong. Look opening night watching him and
then obviously watching him last year in the finals in
that playoff run and.
Speaker 10 (42:02):
Watching it up close as personal as a fan. I mean,
this dude has it all. I mean when the.
Speaker 12 (42:09):
Game is on the line. He knows how to create
his own shot, he knows how to create for others.
Speaker 10 (42:15):
And again.
Speaker 12 (42:17):
I look at the other end as well. I think
that's what made Michael's so great. Not only was he
giving you forty in the playoffs, but he was shutting
you down, shutting me down.
Speaker 3 (42:28):
In the playoffs. Well, he didn't shut you down.
Speaker 10 (42:32):
But to me, that's what SGA SGA. He plays at
both ends of the floor.
Speaker 12 (42:37):
So to me, I wouldn't trade either one of those
players right now.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
If I said you could have SGA or Luca.
Speaker 10 (42:44):
Oh my god, Oh, I would take SGA. Really, yeah,
I'm taking SGA.
Speaker 3 (42:51):
You're in love because you got to play the other end.
Speaker 10 (42:53):
Of the court. Lucas getting there. I mean he's getting there. Luca.
Speaker 12 (43:00):
Now, I will say this to me, Luca is a
better scorer than Wimby and SGA.
Speaker 10 (43:06):
But there's two sides of the ball.
Speaker 3 (43:08):
You know that, all right, There's two sides.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
Reggie is on the call the Knicks visit the Bucks,
NBC and Peacock tonight at eight eastern. I was wondering
about this where we talk about shooting form. You're one
of the great shooters of all time. But would you
teach your son how to shoot the way you shoot
or would you try to have him emulate somebody else.
Speaker 12 (43:29):
I would have him shoot the way he's comfortable shooting.
Shooting the basketball or like fingerprints, everyone's fingerprints are different.
Everyone's going to shoot the basketball different. So there's no
way I would tell my son to shoot like me
or Clay. Now I might reference like a Ray Allen
or Klay Thompson in terms of their form and their
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follow through, but in terms of how you hold the
basket the ball and your release form because I was
an orthodox my elbow out that wasn't textbook. You look
at Stephen Curry, he's not textbook shooter, but we know
he's the best shooter of all time and he goes in.
Everyone shoots the basketball different.
Speaker 10 (44:11):
You could have.
Speaker 12 (44:12):
Talking points about other players, but you want I would
want my son to shoot how he's comfortable shooting.
Speaker 3 (44:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
I always wondered that when you because your your release
was unorthodox, But it's it's kind of like golf swings
as long as everybody ends up at the same spot
when they get to the ball with the club. But
was your follow through the same as anybody else though
when you released it.
Speaker 12 (44:40):
The thing that and if you watch all these great
shooters and you can go back to the sixties, seventies, eighties, nineties,
as long as your shoulders are in line with the rim,
it doesn't matter if your elbows like this, like this,
your shot, as long as these are square to the
rim where mine always was. It doesn't matter what your
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release form is and how you get the ball off.
As long as your shoulders are in line with the rim,
that's all that matters.
Speaker 7 (45:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:11):
Then Larry Bird made fun of my release because he said,
your shoulder, it's out, and I go.
Speaker 10 (45:18):
But hold on, look at his release. I look up.
And what I tried to do when I got to
the high school.
Speaker 12 (45:24):
In college, I copied a lot of shooters, Larry being
one of them. Because Larry shot so high and he
shot over his head to his left. I took a
lot from Dell Ellis, who was another great player.
Speaker 10 (45:38):
Coming off screens. He shot the ball like right in
front of.
Speaker 12 (45:41):
His face almost so I went on the court depending
on the situation.
Speaker 10 (45:47):
If I was coming off and getting.
Speaker 12 (45:49):
Ready to shoot over my right shoulder off of a
pin down screen, I shot like Larry. I would get
the ball on the high release when I was curling
coming off my left shoulder and a chance to get
in the in the room. It's a much quicker release,
so it was more catch and shoot like a Dale Ellis.
So I would pick and choose different shooters that I
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respected their games and how they released the basketball and
incorporated that into my very unorthodox release and shot.
Speaker 3 (46:21):
You love the next to win the ease, right I do? Okay,
I do.
Speaker 12 (46:26):
We mentioned this last week with Boston and Indiana the
injuries to their two star players, it's wide open.
Speaker 10 (46:33):
But to me, it's it's Nicks or bust.
Speaker 12 (46:38):
Though, I mean, they just beat the Cavaliers opening night.
The Cavaliers will have something to say. I still think
Cleveland will win the East in terms of their record,
they'll have the number one seed. But I do think
once New York really figures out Mike Brown's system, pace
and space and getting up threes because they're not used
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to playing like this. They played half court basically under
Tom Thibodeaux. Mike Brown wants them to run, get up,
get a lot of threes up, So it's gonna take
some time for them to get and condition their legs,
their lungs that play that way.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
Theodore the Sixers backcourt, I love Maxi and now you
get edgecom in there, and wow, you're not gonna get
Paul George anywhere near what they hope to get and
even Joe Ellenbi that's gonna be a real slow slow
But if those.
Speaker 12 (47:29):
Two guys give them anything right and they and those
guards continue to play, Kelly Oubray had twenty five last
night for them as well, if he can give them contribution.
To me, they're one of those teams that you don't
know because if the big fella turns into the big fella,
like we're his MVP campaign, well, Nick, that's.
Speaker 10 (47:51):
A different story.
Speaker 12 (47:53):
Paul George doesn't have to carry the load like he
used to anymore because of injuries. To me, it's I
res Maxie's team, right, and that young kid uh at edgecomb,
I mean, there's that's an impressive start to a season,
so his confidence is there. But if the big fella
(48:15):
turns into the big fella and can remain healthy, to me,
the Sixers are they're one of those scary outs.
Speaker 2 (48:23):
What was the most concerning or damning thing about the
FBI investigation that stood out with the NBA to you.
Speaker 12 (48:31):
Well, let me break this down. You know, it's two
different separate incidences. So Terry Rosier and Damon Jones are
all about the the rigged and the parlays and the
over unders, whereas Chauncey's is about fixed poker games.
Speaker 10 (48:50):
And I'm wrapping my head around this because I.
Speaker 12 (48:54):
Just I come back to the reason of why, like,
why would someone jeopardize these guys jeopardize their career and
their livelihoods for something like this. I mean, I've known
you a long time and this goes back to high
school for me and even in college, and you can
(49:16):
relate to this. You aren't even almost allowed to say
the word bet.
Speaker 10 (49:21):
Right. It was like a taboo.
Speaker 12 (49:24):
And in today's society with partnerships with Van Duel and
DraftKings and all these betting sites, it's very murky. And
I just wonder why these guys would put everything on
the line for a short amount of glory.
Speaker 10 (49:43):
I just don't get it.
Speaker 12 (49:44):
You know, your boys are supposed to be around you
to protect you, not exploit you. And that's in terms
of Cherry Rogier and Damon Jones.
Speaker 10 (49:56):
I'm somewhat sad with.
Speaker 12 (49:57):
The Chauncey things, because we've known for a while he
is one of the best dudes you'll know.
Speaker 10 (50:04):
And again we don't know everything.
Speaker 2 (50:06):
But I wonder if they got compromised, Reg. I wonder
if they owe it you back, you get in the.
Speaker 10 (50:12):
Hole, and how do you get compromised? Why?
Speaker 12 (50:16):
My point is, why would you put yourself in that
situation to be compromise?
Speaker 2 (50:20):
You don't think you're going to lose that cut, and
you know Barkley's talked about that, you end up losing
a million dollars and then all of a sudden you
got to pay it back, and then what if you
can't pay it back? And then they say, here's how
you pay it back. You bring in these people and
play poker and we're going to take their money.
Speaker 10 (50:38):
Well, if that.
Speaker 12 (50:39):
Is the case, which I hope it's not, that even
makes my stomach even turn even more, because again, why
put yourself in that situation?
Speaker 2 (50:50):
So Terry Rogier and Damon Jones are probably thinking nobody
is going to notice. Now that's why people do you
know John t Porter than a vacuum. Reg, He's like,
nobody's gonna be following my over unders. Well, they don't
until somebody puts one hundred thousand dollars on your over under.
Now you got Vegas and I think maybe Rogier and
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you know Damon Jones. They live in a vacuum, like, hey,
I got some information for you. Make sure you know
you give me a kick back at twenty five hundred dollars.
Speaker 3 (51:22):
They're not thinking that they're gonna get caught.
Speaker 12 (51:25):
Look, it's again, we don't know everything. I certainly don't
know everything. I have more questions than the answers for you.
I this is a sad day for sports, for the NBA.
I'm sure they're gonna relook how their betting nods are.
They're over unders on certain.
Speaker 3 (51:44):
Well, we've got to take away prop bets.
Speaker 2 (51:46):
You gotta because that's so easy to manipulate because everybody
knows what their prop bets are.
Speaker 3 (51:52):
You got the Bucks game tonight.
Speaker 2 (51:54):
I got Giannis's over under rebounds at twelve and a half.
Speaker 3 (51:57):
Like I right, I.
Speaker 10 (52:02):
Don't know which. I don't know what you can do.
This is I don't know what you can do.
Speaker 3 (52:06):
Would you rather go back and talk about the angels
and show?
Speaker 12 (52:08):
Hey, O, Tony, I don't know what hurts me more this,
Betty thing or showing it.
Speaker 3 (52:15):
The Angels have fun tonight.
Speaker 2 (52:19):
Tell Mike Trinco and Jamal Crawford second best score on
the broadcast team.
Speaker 10 (52:27):
Now, why are you now you're trying to get me going.
Speaker 3 (52:30):
No, you're the number one.
Speaker 10 (52:31):
Okay, yes, he's too.
Speaker 2 (52:33):
No you're not two. Okay, you're the best. You're the
best shooter. I haven't seen your best shooter.
Speaker 12 (52:40):
But in terms of handling it, because look, Jamal could
go out. Jamal can give either one of these teams tonight.
He can give them fifteen twenty minutes right now, seriously,
yes he could.
Speaker 10 (52:52):
Jamal could.
Speaker 3 (52:53):
That'd be great.
Speaker 12 (52:54):
Jamal could probably get ten points tonight in tonight's game. Now, well,
they'll probably have to play ZWN, but he could give
them ten points.
Speaker 2 (53:03):
That'd be a great story, that would It'd be great
if he could play in a game and then then
come over broadcast. Now, the NBA has got enough to
worry about that we don't.
Speaker 3 (53:14):
Need to do all right, we're gonna stup. He's Reggie
Alo Wishes Miller. You'll find him.
Speaker 2 (53:21):
Tonight at eight Eastern. Mike Tarico, Reggie and Jamal Crawford.
It's the Knicks in the books, thanks Bud.
Speaker 10 (53:28):
Thank you Theodore. Appreciate my dad. NATS Love you guys,
You are listening to The Dan Patrick Show on Fox
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
There are a lot of people in Los Angeles doing
the following this morning.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
That was a long game.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Late night, six hours, thirty nine minutes, one of the
greatest World Series games that maybe you didn't see. That's
one of those where you go, I'm going to be
watching SportsCenter in the morning and one of the great
home runs of all time that I don't know how
many people got to see Freddie Freeman go deep to
win that game last night. All right, come on in,
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League Baseball Network was there. We'll let him sleep in
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will stop by as well, and Steve Young, the Hall
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Dodgers beat the Blue Jays on Freddie Freeman's home run
(01:37):
in the eighteenth as they lead two games to one.
Can we play what it sounded like?
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Marvin?
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Do we have the call? On AM five seventy, Little
delivers Freeman. It's one high in the air, straightaway center
field parcel, petal walk.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Freddie Freeman missed a World Series ends.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
The marathon at midnight.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Freddie Freeman is one of four players with multiple walk
off home runs in the postseason, so David Ortiz, Bernie
Williams in Carlos, Korea, but Freddie is the only player
in baseball history with multiple walk off home runs in
the World Series. Shoho tani Oh, by the way, had
two home runs two doubles. They also walked him five times,
(02:30):
four intentionally. And that's one of those moments where, and
we were talking about this earlier this morning, we're actually
watching the greatest baseball player of all time. We're watching
him in real time. It's happening right now. It's not
one of those Hey, you should have seen that guy play.
He's the greatest baseball player.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Of all time.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Babe Ruth did something, but he didn't do it together.
He didn't do a combination. That doesn't mean he couldn't
have done it, but he didn't do it. He was
a great pitcher, best pitcher in the game, and then
all of a sudden decided to be the greatest hitter.
Show Hey Otani with what he and he pitches tonight,
So you're going to have that performance where you walk
(03:12):
him four times. And I talked about this when the
series started. If you don't have left handed pitching against
the Dodgers, you're in trouble because you don't have you
got Freddie Freeman and show Hey Otani, and if you
don't have somebody that you can bring in and go,
I can.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Get that guy out.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
They've gotten to the point where he's getting Bond's treatment
and I want you to pitch in shame.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
If you're going to intentionally walk him.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
I want you to throw the four pitches that look
silly because you don't want to face him. I don't
want it to be I had we're going to walk
him and I point him to first base. Nope, I
want you to pitch in shame. I want you to
acknowledge that you can't get him out, and you throw
those four pitches. But I mean one of the home runs,
I went, oh.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
What are we doing?
Speaker 2 (03:57):
What do you How could you possibly put it anywhere
near that? And they did, and I'm thinking, oh, my goodness,
so Ohtani made him pay. Freddie Freeman made him pay.
There was one nervous moment there when Clayton Kershaw was
in with the bases loaded.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
I just was like, just get the out, go, sit down,
don't pitch anymore, and maybe you win the World Series.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
But they would cut away to his wife.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Oh, you talk about the ebb and flow, the highs
and lows, and you rarely think about when you're the
family is there watching this, Oh, just get off the mount.
That's all I could think of. But watching that last night,
or at least as long as I could. You're watching
the best player in baseball history.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Now.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
I know people are going to say, well, what about
Babe Ruth. Babe was a better hitter. But what he
is doing at the same time, And imagine, just imagine
if he goes out there tonight and pitches at five
or six innings quality baseball and everybody emptied their bullpen
like this is one of those losses. That's not just
(05:09):
one loss. You used your bullpen, you realize you can't
pitch to Otani, and all of a sudden you're gonna
face him on the mound. That was That was monumental
I think last night. But up two games to one.
I know it's only one game. All it takes is,
you know, a couple of breaks going your way, but
that one, that one's stinging, and you got to turn
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around and go back out there and play again tonight.
And then the next game is on Wednesday. So these
pitching staffs are really going to be taxed. But that's
where if you get Yamamoto, who gives you a complete game,
if Otani can give you five or six innings here,
you have an incredible advantage here. All right, See, let's
pull question for hour one.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Yeah, you know, when you look at his at bats
last night, show Heotani, he had a double, a home run,
a double, a home run. He was then intentionally walked
four straight times and then walk the fifth time.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
That's a hell of a night. Yeah, when you're talking
about let me see. So he walked five times, four intentionally,
reach based nine times nine times in the game, the
only player to be walked intentionally four times in a
postseason game since they started tracking this in nineteen fifty five.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
It's fine, Paul is just saying, if you took that
series of at bats from show Hey, Tony, just from
last night, that's good enough to win a World Series MVP.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
For the whole series, so week, the whole thing. If
you had two doubles and two home runs, well, he
won the National League the NLCS MVP based off one game,
and he might win this MVP wait based off one game.
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Steve Young, Hall of Famer, three time Super Bowl champ
with the Niners and won a Super Bowl MVP as well.
Back on the program Good to see You again? Is
there a show heyo Tani in the NFL?
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Or was there?
Speaker 7 (07:38):
Oh? Patrick? Patrick?
Speaker 8 (07:40):
As close as anybody, right, I mean that's that's as
close as you get.
Speaker 7 (07:46):
But no show. How you're Tony? I mean, I mean
pitch and a hit. That's I was just make fun
of baseball in front of my baseball friends, Like you know,
I got a blister for fifteen days. You know, you
know it's like then they go, oh six two games
or the sixteen like you know, we just go back
and forth. But baseball, when you're pitching the ball, when
(08:08):
you're pitching and shutting people out and hitting home run
that game a couple weeks ago. That was the old timers.
So no, Patrick Mahomes is the one guy right now
that I would put in that spot. But there are
some Superman Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson when he's helping Superman.
You know, there's some cool people to watch. That's for sure. Entertaining.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Knowing that we were going to have you on today,
I was thinking about this last night watching Patrick Mahomes
keep a play alive. The difference between keeping a play
alive and what these younger quarterbacks do and kind of
scrambling it. You know, is it semantics here because Mahomes
seems to always do something correct, where these younger guys
(08:48):
try to extend a play and they end up getting sacked.
Speaker 7 (08:51):
Man, you're bringing up the most important question in sports,
because if the NFL is the biggest sport in the game,
in the quarterback the most important position. This is the
most important question for quarterbacks because the game today, of
course we talk about every.
Speaker 8 (09:05):
Week or whenever I'm on about the fact that it's
now a game that's wide open and you have to
attack the line of scrimmage from the quarterback position or
else you're out and so then becomes the question that
I had to deal with my whole life is when
do you go when?
Speaker 7 (09:19):
And what are we doing while we're waiting? And I
think that's and then how do you coach it? So
many really smart quarterback coaches are now having to adjust
and figure out how do I coach a guy who
can move around and can threaten line of scrimmage? And
so young players like I think of just fields right
now going through this incredible challenge of when like the
(09:41):
incredible athlete, right I can do amazing things, Yet I
need to be a sophisticated passer. I know it. I
know in my heart that's what I've got to become.
And so how do I hang in there and fake
it till I make it kind of thing? And then
when do I need to go? Because I don't really know,
I'm not really sure. So I really got to lean
on my athleticism. So the question of the day is
that how do I how do I know that? Patrick
(10:03):
Mahomes says we find it where he doesn't move unless
it's purposeful. And because he owns the data, he's he's
been around a long time, He's he is a sophisticated
passer from the pocket, and so that allows him to
get the most out of every play. And when you
get the most out of every play, then you know
when the play is dead one it's done, or I
don't have a choice, I'll go. And once I go,
(10:24):
that's a whole other plays to play that that's a
play we didn't call, but it's a play we get.
And now I get another chance to run the run
a new play on offense, and then I have another play,
a third play. I'm actually gonna run it and he
and he has that unique ability of his body. It's
like he doesn't even really trying or he's kind of
like gliding and people are missing and he's like, so
(10:44):
there's there's three really in distinct plays for Patrick, and
when you really understand the game, you can't. That's how
it's also hard to stop. And the young players, they
have three plays, but they don't run them right and
they're trying to figure out how to run him.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Can you single out the greatest season of quarterback has
ever had.
Speaker 7 (11:03):
Because it's their adjusted You've got different times and places
and you know, it's impossible to me. There are some
amazing years that people have had, but I mean, obviously,
I guess you've got to be the MVP and run
to win the Super Bowl to make it that list. Yeah,
and then it becomes pretty subjective to people about what
(11:24):
you know, how old they are when it happened, and
you know who they liked, and you.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Know that kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Yeah, because I'm looking at Mahomes and I'm thinking, while
watching Otania, I'm witnessing the greatest baseball player of all time.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
I am.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
I'm watching it right. I got to see Michael Jordan play.
I'm witnessing that firsthand. And I'm watching Mahomes and he's
not the greatest quarterback of all time, but I'm watching
him play a position that's the toughest position in all
the sports, and he plays it in such a unique way.
And he's played it where he throws for fifty touchdowns
(11:59):
and then he throws for twenty five touchdowns and is
still as effective.
Speaker 7 (12:04):
Yeah, and I think, Okay, first of all, let's back up,
I mean, real quickly, a little history lesson. We do
this every time. Ten years ago, they changed the rules
and the rules where you can't launch defenders in the
head first, and so it opened the game up and
so it changed so that now you can run college plays,
you can run the slipscreen, you can run all the
cool stuff and fun stuff. And Patrick is the person
for today's game. And then let's not hit ourselves. The
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innovative minds who jumped into that rule change, Andy Reid,
Kyle Shaney, and Sean McVay, Sean Payton. That was the
big four that jumped in and had a tactical advantage
for a little while. So you've married one of the
most innovative minds and continually innovative and Andy Reid with
Patrick Mahomes. That's what I watch every week. I do.
I don't watch it, but just Patrick Mahomes every week.
I watch Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes every week and
(12:50):
how they have combined to create all this fun stuff
and then Patrick refined its gain you. I appreciate what
you're saying. This is a time for us to watch
Patrick Mahons and just sit back in awe of the athleticism,
the brain, the into intuition, and the presence. One thing
(13:14):
I remember when I watched The Monday Night I was
there in Denver when he first started, and he was
he was I was standing right the sidelines and I
and I have a set. I've watched quarterbacks my whole life,
and I had this feeling. It's like he looks like
he's playing in the backyard, like just his press. This
is how he feels like. It's just nothing. Really is
kind of laughing and have a good time. And here's
his first start. He's scrambling left and right. At the
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end of the scramble, he takes the ball from his
right and throws it and puts it in his left
and throws it for a completion maybe Kelsey or so,
I can't remember. And I'm like, and then he stood
up and he's like, how about I making sure? He
said to the rough how about that? And I thought
to myself, I could only dream of being that guy
that could just like be in the backyard, but yet
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playing the best football and the world. I think he's
he's he's a magical person.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Talking to Steve Young, the Hall of Famer, give me
the team that you're still not sure about?
Speaker 7 (14:11):
How about a list, meaning the Eagles, I don't I'm
not sure, really, Packers, I'm not sure. They're getting more sure.
Obviously last week, the last last week was the truth
when every game was like, well, that's the truth. And
so the truth throughout the league was we've been met.
We went through the preseason of September, we've kind of
figured out who we are. Now we're gonna you know, now,
(14:31):
we're going to tell you the truth. And that's why
the Eagles I think we're you know, in the Giants
that was the truth, and the Packers was the truth.
And so there's a lot of teams the Rams like like,
I'm getting to know those teams that figure that they're
going to be there in the end. Uh. And but
who do you want to talk about? Because I mean, I.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Think like the Colts, it feels like we're going to
wait until the postseason to go.
Speaker 7 (14:54):
I told you you haven't done it. Daniel Jones like
the Colts, like, it's just you, we're all we're all
tree majors, right, And so the Colts are not that
historical last ten fifteen years like, oh yeah, the Colts
will be there now. The Chiefs, you know, you've got
to figure they're going to be there, and their bills
or the figure they'll be there. The Eagles and even
the Packers I understand all that. The Colts they always
(15:16):
have to figure out how to prove it to you
in January February. That's just because they're new. When you're new,
you got it. No one cares like, Hey, this is fun,
this is nice. But we'll see, we'll see in January
when you go to Kansas City.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Kansas City's got the Bills coming up, they got a
bye week, they're at the Broncos, they host the Colts.
Speaker 7 (15:36):
It's fun. But I always said regular season. I mean, when
we played the Cowboys in regular season, whoever won that games? Like,
you know, it didn't it mattered, but it didn't matter.
I just it wasn't the thing. It'll it's a sign,
it's important, it's not nothing. But it's also not January.
So I think there's a different shift to make sure
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you keep that in mind.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
But how do you trying harder at the quarterbacking position
as a regular season game against the Cowboys and then
a postseason game.
Speaker 7 (16:09):
It always reminded me during the week when you have
a big game coming up and you have some quote
from one of the other team's defensive line like we're gonna,
we're gonna get Steve Other. I'm gonna I'm so focused,
and like really I mean honestly, like you're more focused
to kill me than the week before when you want
(16:29):
to go like stop. And that's why I think even
from the teams and quarterbacks like there's it is an
emotional game. That's why New Rocky's famous, right because he
made a speech. Every're like, oh we're great, like it is.
You have to be inspired to run into people. So
it does matter, and it does and you can get
lulls of emotion and you see games where people are
(16:49):
flat and it really shows up football. But trying extra
hard that really the best teams dan don't. It's like
they don't look like they're trying extra hard. If they're
still focused, they're still they're but sure about it. Right,
It's like we come out of the locker room. We're
actually not care. We don't care who we play. We
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know that we're about trying to find out how good
we are and that's what we that's our quest. And
so this if you're if you think you're pretty good, great,
come on in. We'll check you out and we'll see
how I'll see how we stand. The mature teams don't rock,
you know, get off and oh my gosh, this is
the game, and then the next week's like, oh flat,
that's the Cowboys.
Speaker 8 (17:29):
That's that's how they wrote and and that's not as
mature when we were.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
I was growing up and playing football, you're always cognizant
of this is going to hurt. I'm gonna get hit,
this is gonna hurt. Like when do you graduate two?
You don't think about that's going to hurt when.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
I get hit? Do you graduate to that point where
you don't think about it?
Speaker 7 (17:52):
I will tell you, Dad, I think that's probably why
you're not pro. I don't think I ever really thought.
Speaker 9 (17:57):
To myself, oh this is but I will say I'm
football is the truth, and no one ever, at the
moment of impact thinks, oh, I'm getting paid.
Speaker 7 (18:12):
You might think about it when you're a line of scrimmage.
You're thinking that I'm getting paid and this is good,
and then all of a sudden they gain and then
so when you get hit. And that's why football is
such an amazing game, because there is a truth to
it that no one, no one's, no one cares at
the moment of impact, who's who's getting paid what, And
that's what really matters. And that's very pro Yeah, I won't.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
No, I think hold on here, I think we got
a we lost you a little bit. Wait are you
back now?
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Can you hear?
Speaker 7 (18:50):
I'm here?
Speaker 3 (18:50):
You got it? Okay?
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Yeah, that you chopped up a little bit there. So
whatever that genius was that you were saying, yeah, I'm
sure very There's.
Speaker 7 (19:00):
So many guys that start in the league and they're
the most amazing athletes in the in the league, and
then they find their way out of the out of
the game in three or four years and you're like,
what happened to that guy? Well, what happened that guy
is he didn't love football. He worried. He thought about, Wow,
this is gonna hurt. Like it the game itself, there's
a love for it that that the pros the pro
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game forces you know, it's a referendum on whether you
love it or And I've seen a lot of amazing
athletes that just don't love it in the game and
the pro game. The college game doesn't force you out
like that, the cheerleaders and the alumni and all that stuff,
but pro game it's the referendum. And the guys leave
the game because that you just said, this is going
to hurt, and then they just and the guys that
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play forever, they actually never think about it, which is weird.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
But you got hurt, you got hit, you suffered concussions,
but but you never thought, God, that hurts, or this
is gonna hurt that you see somebody coming right out,
you go the kind of this is gonna hurt.
Speaker 7 (19:55):
Well, I remember the fridge. I remember William the fridge
three eighty. You know, his football card said three fifty
if you admit three fifty your forte And I remember
he got me up under my chin, right straight up
and then was hoppling me over and was gonna land on.
I thought, I'm gonna die, like this is it could be.
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There's no way my body can withstand this. And it did.
It didn't. I thought it would break. It didn't break,
which is crazy. I did, but it did take the
wind out of me, but it didn't break me. But
I think, yeah, there's well, here's how I'll say it.
If it hurts during the game, you you're gonna it's
gonna be a problem the next week. Like you usually,
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adrenaline and everything else you don't really notice. And then
after the game in the shower you're like, oh, wrap
that hurts, but then that's something that's gonna give you know,
you figure out by Wednesday. But if it hurts during
the game and you're on the sideline and like man,
then you you got a problem. That's how you know.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Well, like Cam scattaboo, so dislocates his ankle, but he's
I don't know if the body protects you in that
moment or they're shocked because he's pointing. He knows that
it's serious, but it doesn't look like he's in agony.
And I don't know what happens to the body in
a moment like that where you see guys blow out
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their knee or you know, have devastating injuries and then
they get carted off and they're giving a thumbs up
to the crowd, I'd be weeping.
Speaker 10 (21:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (21:24):
I think sometimes I would say that I didn't have
anything terrible ever happened, which I'm grateful for. But the
guys that I know who did talk about it as
if especially in knee when it's kind of blown out,
it doesn't like it doesn't hurt like the pains you
know already happened. But it just depends. But I'm telling you,
the toughest humans beings I have ever known played football.
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I'm sure I wasn't in a lot of other spots
where the top shoe means hang out, but I did
hang out in football. And I'm telling you that I
remember going back to my Tampa Bay days the season
I played in Tampa with James Wilder James Alden running
back from Missouri, and we were two and fourteen, and
I remember thinking, like, you guys are losers. I'm like,
have you met James Wilder? That dude is not a loser.
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That then, is the toughest human being I think I've
ever met my life. And that's the other thing that
you just you don't realize that so many guys are
toiling in the NFL that you don't know that aren't
the toughest bath as you ever late.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
I mean, yeah, but you gave him the ball three
hundred and fifty times.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
The poor guy.
Speaker 7 (22:26):
Don't make up some number like you got you're that fast.
You're not that fast at the stat.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Okay, Paulie, would you check and see Wilder I think
has had the most carries in a season in NFL
his I.
Speaker 7 (22:36):
Think it was like four oh seven for the record,
which you just trying to come.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
On, don't don't show Why didn't you throw the ball
a little bit? Steve gave it to James Wilder.
Speaker 7 (22:47):
The goodest story James over in the blizzard in Green Bay.
And I'm sorry if I repeat this story and I
had not completed a ball. I'm like, oh, for eleven
and it's like the second quarter and I'm like, my
first game ever played, say game I've ever played in
the NFL. I turned to James, like, James, jump in
front of me, and I'm going to shovel the ball
to you so I have a completion, because I'm afraid
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I don't want to be the only quarterback in the
history of the game that you don't have a completion.
So you can see his stats that day. It's Wilder
of one catch fight its PAULI.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Do you have the numbers there on Wilder?
Speaker 11 (23:20):
The most carries James Wilder had for Tampa was nineteen
eighty four, four hundred and seven carries fifteen and forty
four yards hem.
Speaker 7 (23:28):
And he you talk about feeling every one of them
like he was a tough man. And so that's what
I guess what you're saying is there's guys that aren't
ready for the game because they are the toughest humans
you ever met.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Do you have your Tampa jersey framed?
Speaker 7 (23:45):
No, I don't have anything frame, but I think I
have a Tampa jersey. I'm very proud of this. You know,
it's funny that season. It was fun into being a
team that was so dysfunctional and but yet such good guys.
But just the culture, the leader shift, it was just
a mess. It was a total mess.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Because I would have one that was game used because
you probably have grass stains and turfalls.
Speaker 7 (24:08):
So we have these orange jerseys, but because they can't
find any material it's orange, they get it from, you know,
somewhere where it's thick. It's like this thick you can
almost fold it and it would.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Make a freeze, you know what I mean, Like and
it was hot down there.
Speaker 7 (24:22):
Does anyone know we're in Tampa? Like, where's the match? Bro?
Gives me some orange mesh? Why do we have to
have this thick like Canadian it's stupid stuff like that.
You're just like, come on, man, like, like let's get
this figured out.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Good to talk to you again, Daniel good Man, Thank you, Steve.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
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Speaker 2 (24:58):
Kevin Milan won a World Series championship with the Four
Red Sox. The MLB Network analyst and you can see
him with Ryan Dempster. That'll be MLB Network every day
starting at five Eastern covered the World Series. How do
you feel today?
Speaker 10 (25:13):
I feel amazing. We've had a great night here.
Speaker 11 (25:16):
We all came up to my room, Denny, I had
Ryan Dempster, we had Mark durosa Team USA manager, had
a buddy coming down. But I'm gonna tell you didn't
realize we're gonna be here for eighteen inights.
Speaker 10 (25:26):
It kept getting better and better and better.
Speaker 11 (25:29):
And I want to ask you one question is is
sho Hail tani Ai? Because what he does on the
field doesn't make sense. I think we all just sit
here and go yep, I'm just gonna go back to
the computer board. He'll go awfu awful, taco crazy.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
I think it's gotten to the point where they're not
going to pitch to him.
Speaker 11 (25:48):
You can't like we were sitting there last night It
was so fascinating because you know Mark was playing I
files the bench coach and what would you do here?
And would you take out Kirk to pinch run And
there's so many decisions before they happen, right before we
all play armchair quarterback.
Speaker 10 (26:03):
Fascinating. Yeah, you have to, and then you're sitting.
Speaker 11 (26:05):
Here, you walking him to a former MVP in Mookie Betts,
and then if you want to get by him, then
you get another former IVP mister World Series. So it's
fascinating and how you do it. I just got to
walk up. He's proven to you, but.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
As he gotten to the Barry Bonds status when it
comes to you just can't pitch to him.
Speaker 10 (26:24):
You just can't because you think you can. And even
when he.
Speaker 11 (26:28):
Walked you know that last at bet when it wasn't
just put him on. You see the stress though, Like
this poor pitcher's trying to not not throw strike Seafields fan.
Speaker 10 (26:38):
But like we are.
Speaker 11 (26:40):
If I tell you Dad, hey, stay away and then
you just like lead one curveball up, you know, it's
like it might be embarrassing.
Speaker 10 (26:46):
And that's what he can do to you.
Speaker 7 (26:47):
Dan.
Speaker 11 (26:47):
You know that like you'll get embarrassed. A home runs
a home run, then I'll put you in the parking lot.
And when you're the last row of the of the
of the bleachers and you and I are sitting back
there with the nine hundred dollars ticket these days and
usually the home runs kind of go oh yeah.
Speaker 10 (27:00):
Who's gonna catch it? And now they go like this,
heads up in the parking.
Speaker 11 (27:05):
Lot, guys, Yeah, there's a ball bouncing.
Speaker 10 (27:08):
It just doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Uh, Schuresier can't get away with that pitch. Maybe a
younger Sureser can. But you keep like they're just places
where the other home run I got's a terrible pitch
I got right. If I'm making a mistake, my mistake
is never gonna be across the plate.
Speaker 7 (27:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (27:28):
It's funny because you know, any way, you got the
droop text, you're trying to there's four thousand different things
and John Smoltzen I was all of us were on
this text and he's kind of like they're pitching him
not so good.
Speaker 10 (27:37):
He is amazing, but you do have to be careful,
you know.
Speaker 11 (27:41):
And there's this old story, like you know, I told
Ryan when we faced Barry Bonds. Everybody walks Arry Bonds.
I said, just throw the four seamer, just go after him.
Speaker 10 (27:49):
Let's see what he has. Well he had it.
Speaker 7 (27:51):
You know.
Speaker 10 (27:51):
A few pitches later Ryan was coming in. He was like,
thanks for that one. He could hit. That's what happens, though.
Speaker 11 (27:56):
You know that you and I are sitting there and
we're watching this game, like, are they gonna walk me
to say, well, no, just go at him a little bit,
maybe just a little bit.
Speaker 10 (28:03):
There's no little bit like in the World Series.
Speaker 11 (28:05):
In this kind of a moment, you're just gonna have
to say, Mookie Bett's gonna have to beat us.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
And I started to wonder about the impact that this
will have on tonight's game because Otani's pitching, So you
play eighteen innings. Most pitchers aren't doing anything prior to
that night that they're going to be pitching. This is
where you cement a legacy if you're Otani. If he
goes out there and throws five quality innings. I mean,
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we might be looking back on this, you know, ten
fifteen years from now and telling our kids' grandkids we
did see the greatest performance in baseball history.
Speaker 10 (28:42):
It is there's not words.
Speaker 11 (28:45):
You don't know what word to use, and I'm a
motive going in or to warm up, like for him
to come down, whatever you need me to do, like
you got goose mumps when you saw him walk to
the bullpen, yellone, like Otani there was a steady seven
for seven his last with five home runs and two doubles, like.
Speaker 10 (29:05):
Dero looked at me.
Speaker 11 (29:06):
Durosa goes, we're watching the Lily World Series, like these
are numbers to hit a big league home run in
the postseasons big and now we start hearing like these
numbers like George Springer has you know, twenty seven postseason
home runs and you're like watching O'tani make this look
like a video game.
Speaker 10 (29:21):
It's not that easy, guys. I want everybody to understand
that it's not that easy.
Speaker 11 (29:25):
And the seven hundred and fifty million dollars contract that
we all sat back, going, good lord, have mersey.
Speaker 10 (29:30):
He's almost underpaid. He should have been paid two point seven.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Billion, right, it's not your money, no, you and I I'll.
Speaker 10 (29:37):
Give a percentage of the team.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
My goodness, gracious, who would you want up in a
clutch situation?
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Big Poppy or show he.
Speaker 10 (29:47):
Oh, big poppy brother.
Speaker 11 (29:49):
I mean I only can speak from just sharing with
the guy and loving the guy and just understanding what
he did for us in games four.
Speaker 10 (29:57):
And five, like, hey, just come on and get on
my back.
Speaker 11 (29:59):
I'm gonna go deep off control and then we're gonna
go have a twelve pitching bag against Lewisa. Thank you,
We'll head to New York game six. Now, that's a
great question. Listen, oh Tony, what he's doing now is just,
I mean stupid. Right, we all, Poppy didn't get out
in twenty thirteen, it felt, and Pompy didn't get out
with us when we needed every big RBI.
Speaker 10 (30:16):
I would take David or too.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Final answer, I don't know if showering him, you know,
being in the shower with him has anything to do
with his performance at the plate. But I'll leave that
up to you and Poppy. Must be a special relationship
you have there. We're talking about Kevin Malar MLB network analysts.
All right, how did the Blue Jays get back in this?
Speaker 11 (30:35):
I think they they have shown everybody they punched back.
They punched back. You know, you sit back, even in
game one when they face Snell. We're sitting there in
Toronto and without man the daughters, I mean they just
mean the Blue Jays, right, don't have a jams. Yeah,
I mean, yeah, they have a chance. But you know
they come in as there's an underdog, there's a favorite.
They're an underdog, no doubt.
Speaker 10 (30:52):
Right.
Speaker 11 (30:52):
Blake Snell's giving up a run in postseed starts in
fourteenth straight as he's starting the game, and you saw
them battle, battle, battle, and then boom and they punched
right and you saw him last night. Edmund has a
big air obviously, Alejandro Kirk. If you don't have a
man crush on him, Dan Patrick, and you're not a
sports fan, if you don't think you can get in
the box, spread out, get load of the base.
Speaker 10 (31:13):
Their simple movement, just a little bit of a shoulder.
Speaker 11 (31:16):
Lean and his barrel and his bat just stays right
through here this plane. He will rifle stuff foul, he
will battle on breaking balls. And for him to get
up there and hit that three run home run in
that moment, let's talk about that like it just doesn't
make sense. And they go down one, they keep punching
and punching, and you feel it when bar shows up,
you feel he can put one in the streets. They
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have a lineup vlag Garrel Junior, I think is growing
in front of our eyes. You're looking at an athlete.
You're looking at a great defender at first base. You
probably paid these better than you thought at first base
along with everybody else. He's smart, he's running the base
as well, and he's electric at the place. So I
think they punched back. How do they get back in it?
The question is can Shane Bieber beat the Dodgers? I
think the question for me was could Max Scherzer and
(32:00):
Shane Bieber beat the Dodgers. They're gonna have to find one,
and so now it's up to Shane. Don't call me Justin.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
Yamamoto reminds me of Pedro Martinez a little bit.
Speaker 10 (32:12):
You know what, that's a great comp in. Pedro's prime,
little guy, easy, easy, v low and and.
Speaker 11 (32:18):
Hits those four quadrants where he wants what the execution
on that three to two curveball to Vlad in Game
two and then Barshaw got it also, like the ability
to throw seventy four to seventy six hour breaking ball
for ninety seven is split x kid too, and he's great,
He's unbelievable.
Speaker 10 (32:34):
I mean, you're looking at You're looking at some stuff
in the series.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Most famous person in the crowd last night, Justin Bieber.
Speaker 11 (32:40):
I want to go use the restroom, and there are
seventeen people surrounding it. And when you got to go
the bathroom, and you know that when you gotta go potty,
you're ready to go potty, and you kind of closer
you get to a bathroom, your mind's already saying yay,
they're right there. So it gets worse and then all
of a sudden, you get the back up, excuse me,
I gotta go potty, sir, back up. Bieber's in there.
I know that, But I played in the show. I
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mean I took chanhell Park deep there. Vinceculley now fit.
Speaker 7 (33:04):
That didn't count.
Speaker 11 (33:05):
That that count And then they were soon I give
my peaches down to Georgia.
Speaker 10 (33:10):
I get my blank in California. So yeah, it was
Justin Bieber's the one.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Okay, you didn't get to say loa to him, did.
Speaker 10 (33:18):
You, No, no, no, I couldn't get to him.
Speaker 11 (33:20):
I was gonna try together there and get a quick
selfie in the bathroom, but it didn't work out.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
But he's uh, he had his Blue Jays jersey on.
Speaker 11 (33:27):
Oh yeah, that's what's cool like Drake, Like here in
Toronto and then there's there's Drake. You forget the fans
come out right. But Blue Jay fans are awesome. The
whole country is awesome. They got six million watching. He
was electric there. Dodger Stadium was phenomenal last night. The
weather you can't you can't paint a better picture right now.
There's no shadows. That's the good news. And so we'll
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see what goes on tonight.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
Good to talk to you, Thanks for getting up.
Speaker 11 (33:52):
Always great to see you, and I'll see you on
our show at some point. You're coming on with your
shirt off?
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Oh, with my shirt off?
Speaker 10 (33:57):
Yeah, I want your shirt off. It t after dark.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Hoops, I'm worried about you, you know, big poppy in
the shower.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
You want me with my shirt off? Like, what's going
on here?
Speaker 10 (34:09):
That' sturts? Get daddy, You know that we didn't talk
about Shillings, and we talked about.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
When's the last time you talked to Kurt Shilling?
Speaker 10 (34:17):
Got it? It's been a little bit, you know, it's
been a little bit.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
But yeah, why is he not in the Hall of Fame?
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Man?
Speaker 10 (34:24):
I don't know every fifth day, man, you wanted him
on the mountain. You know that.
Speaker 11 (34:26):
I mean, he it seems like all these great ones,
right Kershaw on the baseloader moment, we don't saying about that,
like are you kidding me?
Speaker 10 (34:33):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 3 (34:34):
Like I was holding I was holding my breath.
Speaker 10 (34:37):
It was Yeah, you could have seen what happened. Happened perfectly,
like just just absolutely grinding at bat. And I love
Freddy's comment saying we saw eighty nine on the slider.
He goes, I knew we were in pretty the old school.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Shaw, Thank you. keV.
Speaker 10 (34:54):
Alright, pal, We'll see you guys.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
That's Kevin Malah.
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Speaker 2 (35:37):
I always think of those fan bases like the Red
Sox looking at Mookie Bats, the Braves, Freddie Freeman, Angel
fans looking at show Hey Tani, Red G. Miller, Angels
fan Hall of Famer. He'll be on the call with
Mike Cherico and Jamal Crawford. It's the Knicks and the
Bucks tonight on NBC and Peconic tip off eight Eastern.
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How does that feel to be an Angels fan watching show?
Speaker 3 (36:03):
Hey Otani Theodore.
Speaker 12 (36:05):
I'm so glad you brought this up because I need
to know this, because I need to know the inner circles.
How in the world did my beloved California Angels. I'm
not even gonna call him the Los Angeles. There are
the California Angels. To me, how could we have ever
seen show Hey O'tani and Mike Trout in the same
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uniform on the same team. How could we ever see
show hey walk out the door?
Speaker 10 (36:35):
Now, I know he was a free agents and free
agent and he can.
Speaker 12 (36:38):
Go anywhere he wants, but we should have gave him
part ownership of that team.
Speaker 10 (36:44):
There's no way he should have ever.
Speaker 12 (36:47):
And not only does he leave, he goes right down
the road to the Dodgers.
Speaker 10 (36:55):
It kills me. It kills me.
Speaker 12 (36:58):
I know it's not very popular to be an Angel
fan in Dodgerland.
Speaker 10 (37:01):
I've been, but I grew up because of my brother Darrel.
As you know I am. I'm a diehard Angel fan
and it just ow. Come on, talk to me like
I'm a kindergarten.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
They should have given him part of Disneyland, you know,
they should.
Speaker 12 (37:19):
Yes, whatever you wanted, they should have given it to him,
whatever you wanted.
Speaker 3 (37:25):
Is there the best two ways?
Speaker 2 (37:27):
So pitching and hitting, he's probably the greatest baseball player
of all time, but the best two way player in
NBA history.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
Is in terms of basketball. Yeah, best two way player
in the NBA in history.
Speaker 12 (37:45):
I would say, uh, Kawi comes to mind.
Speaker 10 (37:55):
Two way offensive defense, right.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
But he's not better offensively than and he's not better
defensively than Jordan.
Speaker 12 (38:04):
I would say he's on part defensively with Jordan. He's
not offensively as good as Jordan.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
Okay, Elijah one.
Speaker 10 (38:14):
Ding Dean for the win. Oh here's another one.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
Kareem Early in his career.
Speaker 12 (38:21):
Okay, well early in his career he was he was that.
I would I would say Kareem or.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
Hakeem because I know it's not it's not apples to
apples with what Otani is doing. But you do have
to play defense, and you know Mahomes doesn't have to
play defense in the NFL. Correct, So just to be
able to go to the other end and not be
a liability or to be a stopper, I don't know
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do we have stoppers anymore in the NBA.
Speaker 12 (38:51):
I will say in today's generation, in today's games, I
would put Jannis in that category. He averages thirty, but
he does a good job on defensive end. I think
last season's MVP SGA Shay is a pretty good two
way player as well. Gives you thirty two at one end,
and I think he was second in steals a year ago.
(39:14):
Those two guys come to mind again. I mentioned Kawhi
Leonard Victor. Oh, he's changing the game, right.
Speaker 10 (39:23):
He is.
Speaker 12 (39:24):
I'm every time you turn into a Spurs game, you're
gonna see something new.
Speaker 10 (39:29):
So last night it was the three sixty layup, right, it's.
Speaker 12 (39:33):
He will do one thing when you leave that arena
or watching that game, going I gotta see more.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
He took three, he took a logo three and he's
got good form.
Speaker 10 (39:47):
He's got great form.
Speaker 12 (39:48):
And I think just looking at him, it looks like
he's put on not a lot of weight, but he
looks like he's a little bit more I don't know,
more comfortable.
Speaker 10 (39:58):
In his skin.
Speaker 12 (39:58):
He put on like maybe ta pounds or something, but
he's much more comfortable out there on the floor. It's
and for them to be undefeated at this point. I
know it's early, it's only a week into the season. Look,
they're not winning the championship, but I like how they
are playing as a young team.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
And you're seeing him. He should have been Defensive Player
of the Year. He didn't play enough games to qualify.
He's only twenty one. He can guard the perimeter from
the paint. He's averaging six blocks now, he can shoot
shoot the three. He's got a handle. They're putting him
in different positions on the block where he can succeed.
(40:42):
And I said this, I got Lucas the MVP this year,
but after that, I've got Victor.
Speaker 3 (40:47):
I'm gonna take Victor the next five years.
Speaker 12 (40:49):
After that, we'll look for Luca and for Victor to win. Obviously,
team success is going to play a counterpoint. So if
the Spurs continue to play like this, I say the
Spurs end in a top four in a loaded Western Conference, yes,
he'll win the same with Luca Luca in the Lakers,
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They've got to finish in the top four. To me,
it'd be I know, I think Jokic wanted a few
years ago, and Denver was I believe six in the
Eastern or in the Western Conference, so there is precedents
for that. But I think if either one of those teams,
the Lakers or the Spurs, finish in the top four
in the very heavy loaded Western Conference, one of them
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will win MVP.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
If I said, you can have Luca or you can
have Victor Victor, Okay, is there any player you would
take over Victor winbin Yama for let's say the next
five years.
Speaker 12 (41:48):
Well, he's only twenty one, but to me, Sga Cannet,
he cannot go wrong. Look opening night watching him and
then obviously watching him last year in the finals in
that playoff run and.
Speaker 10 (42:02):
Watching it up close as personal as a fan. I mean,
this dude has it all. I mean when the.
Speaker 12 (42:09):
Game is on the line. He knows how to create
his own shot, he knows how to create for others.
Speaker 10 (42:15):
And again.
Speaker 12 (42:17):
I look at the other end as well. I think
that's what made Michael's so great. Not only was he
giving you forty in the playoffs, but he was shutting
you down, shutting me down.
Speaker 3 (42:28):
In the playoffs. Well, he didn't shut you down.
Speaker 10 (42:32):
But to me, that's what SGA SGA. He plays at
both ends of the floor.
Speaker 12 (42:37):
So to me, I wouldn't trade either one of those
players right now.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
If I said you could have SGA or Luca.
Speaker 10 (42:44):
Oh my god, Oh, I would take SGA. Really, yeah,
I'm taking SGA.
Speaker 3 (42:51):
You're in love because you got to play the other end.
Speaker 10 (42:53):
Of the court. Lucas getting there. I mean he's getting there. Luca.
Speaker 12 (43:00):
Now, I will say this to me, Luca is a
better scorer than Wimby and SGA.
Speaker 10 (43:06):
But there's two sides of the ball.
Speaker 3 (43:08):
You know that, all right, There's two sides.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
Reggie is on the call the Knicks visit the Bucks,
NBC and Peacock tonight at eight eastern. I was wondering
about this where we talk about shooting form. You're one
of the great shooters of all time. But would you
teach your son how to shoot the way you shoot
or would you try to have him emulate somebody else.
Speaker 12 (43:29):
I would have him shoot the way he's comfortable shooting.
Shooting the basketball or like fingerprints, everyone's fingerprints are different.
Everyone's going to shoot the basketball different. So there's no
way I would tell my son to shoot like me
or Clay. Now I might reference like a Ray Allen
or Klay Thompson in terms of their form and their
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follow through, but in terms of how you hold the
basket the ball and your release form because I was
an orthodox my elbow out that wasn't textbook. You look
at Stephen Curry, he's not textbook shooter, but we know
he's the best shooter of all time and he goes in.
Everyone shoots the basketball different.
Speaker 10 (44:11):
You could have.
Speaker 12 (44:12):
Talking points about other players, but you want I would
want my son to shoot how he's comfortable shooting.
Speaker 3 (44:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
I always wondered that when you because your your release
was unorthodox, But it's it's kind of like golf swings
as long as everybody ends up at the same spot
when they get to the ball with the club. But
was your follow through the same as anybody else though
when you released it.
Speaker 12 (44:40):
The thing that and if you watch all these great
shooters and you can go back to the sixties, seventies, eighties, nineties,
as long as your shoulders are in line with the rim,
it doesn't matter if your elbows like this, like this,
your shot, as long as these are square to the
rim where mine always was. It doesn't matter what your
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release form is and how you get the ball off.
As long as your shoulders are in line with the rim,
that's all that matters.
Speaker 7 (45:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:11):
Then Larry Bird made fun of my release because he said,
your shoulder, it's out, and I go.
Speaker 10 (45:18):
But hold on, look at his release. I look up.
And what I tried to do when I got to
the high school.
Speaker 12 (45:24):
In college, I copied a lot of shooters, Larry being
one of them. Because Larry shot so high and he
shot over his head to his left. I took a
lot from Dell Ellis, who was another great player.
Speaker 10 (45:38):
Coming off screens. He shot the ball like right in
front of.
Speaker 12 (45:41):
His face almost so I went on the court depending
on the situation.
Speaker 10 (45:47):
If I was coming off and getting.
Speaker 12 (45:49):
Ready to shoot over my right shoulder off of a
pin down screen, I shot like Larry. I would get
the ball on the high release when I was curling
coming off my left shoulder and a chance to get
in the in the room. It's a much quicker release,
so it was more catch and shoot like a Dale Ellis.
So I would pick and choose different shooters that I
(46:11):
respected their games and how they released the basketball and
incorporated that into my very unorthodox release and shot.
Speaker 3 (46:21):
You love the next to win the ease, right I do? Okay,
I do.
Speaker 12 (46:26):
We mentioned this last week with Boston and Indiana the
injuries to their two star players, it's wide open.
Speaker 10 (46:33):
But to me, it's it's Nicks or bust.
Speaker 12 (46:38):
Though, I mean, they just beat the Cavaliers opening night.
The Cavaliers will have something to say. I still think
Cleveland will win the East in terms of their record,
they'll have the number one seed. But I do think
once New York really figures out Mike Brown's system, pace
and space and getting up threes because they're not used
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to playing like this. They played half court basically under
Tom Thibodeaux. Mike Brown wants them to run, get up,
get a lot of threes up, So it's gonna take
some time for them to get and condition their legs,
their lungs that play that way.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
Theodore the Sixers backcourt, I love Maxi and now you
get edgecom in there, and wow, you're not gonna get
Paul George anywhere near what they hope to get and
even Joe Ellenbi that's gonna be a real slow slow
But if those.
Speaker 12 (47:29):
Two guys give them anything right and they and those
guards continue to play, Kelly Oubray had twenty five last
night for them as well, if he can give them contribution.
To me, they're one of those teams that you don't
know because if the big fella turns into the big fella,
like we're his MVP campaign, well, Nick, that's.
Speaker 10 (47:51):
A different story.
Speaker 12 (47:53):
Paul George doesn't have to carry the load like he
used to anymore because of injuries. To me, it's I
res Maxie's team, right, and that young kid uh at edgecomb,
I mean, there's that's an impressive start to a season,
so his confidence is there. But if the big fella
(48:15):
turns into the big fella and can remain healthy, to me,
the Sixers are they're one of those scary outs.
Speaker 2 (48:23):
What was the most concerning or damning thing about the
FBI investigation that stood out with the NBA to you.
Speaker 12 (48:31):
Well, let me break this down. You know, it's two
different separate incidences. So Terry Rosier and Damon Jones are
all about the the rigged and the parlays and the
over unders, whereas Chauncey's is about fixed poker games.
Speaker 10 (48:50):
And I'm wrapping my head around this because I.
Speaker 12 (48:54):
Just I come back to the reason of why, like,
why would someone jeopardize these guys jeopardize their career and
their livelihoods for something like this. I mean, I've known
you a long time and this goes back to high
school for me and even in college, and you can
(49:16):
relate to this. You aren't even almost allowed to say
the word bet.
Speaker 10 (49:21):
Right. It was like a taboo.
Speaker 12 (49:24):
And in today's society with partnerships with Van Duel and
DraftKings and all these betting sites, it's very murky. And
I just wonder why these guys would put everything on
the line for a short amount of glory.
Speaker 10 (49:43):
I just don't get it.
Speaker 12 (49:44):
You know, your boys are supposed to be around you
to protect you, not exploit you. And that's in terms
of Cherry Rogier and Damon Jones.
Speaker 10 (49:56):
I'm somewhat sad with.
Speaker 12 (49:57):
The Chauncey things, because we've known for a while he
is one of the best dudes you'll know.
Speaker 10 (50:04):
And again we don't know everything.
Speaker 2 (50:06):
But I wonder if they got compromised, Reg. I wonder
if they owe it you back, you get in the.
Speaker 10 (50:12):
Hole, and how do you get compromised? Why?
Speaker 12 (50:16):
My point is, why would you put yourself in that
situation to be compromise?
Speaker 2 (50:20):
You don't think you're going to lose that cut, and
you know Barkley's talked about that, you end up losing
a million dollars and then all of a sudden you
got to pay it back, and then what if you
can't pay it back? And then they say, here's how
you pay it back. You bring in these people and
play poker and we're going to take their money.
Speaker 10 (50:38):
Well, if that.
Speaker 12 (50:39):
Is the case, which I hope it's not, that even
makes my stomach even turn even more, because again, why
put yourself in that situation?
Speaker 2 (50:50):
So Terry Rogier and Damon Jones are probably thinking nobody
is going to notice. Now that's why people do you
know John t Porter than a vacuum. Reg, He's like,
nobody's gonna be following my over unders. Well, they don't
until somebody puts one hundred thousand dollars on your over under.
Now you got Vegas and I think maybe Rogier and
(51:14):
you know Damon Jones. They live in a vacuum, like, hey,
I got some information for you. Make sure you know
you give me a kick back at twenty five hundred dollars.
Speaker 3 (51:22):
They're not thinking that they're gonna get caught.
Speaker 12 (51:25):
Look, it's again, we don't know everything. I certainly don't
know everything. I have more questions than the answers for you.
I this is a sad day for sports, for the NBA.
I'm sure they're gonna relook how their betting nods are.
They're over unders on certain.
Speaker 3 (51:44):
Well, we've got to take away prop bets.
Speaker 2 (51:46):
You gotta because that's so easy to manipulate because everybody
knows what their prop bets are.
Speaker 3 (51:52):
You got the Bucks game tonight.
Speaker 2 (51:54):
I got Giannis's over under rebounds at twelve and a half.
Speaker 3 (51:57):
Like I right, I.
Speaker 10 (52:02):
Don't know which. I don't know what you can do.
This is I don't know what you can do.
Speaker 3 (52:06):
Would you rather go back and talk about the angels
and show?
Speaker 12 (52:08):
Hey, O, Tony, I don't know what hurts me more this,
Betty thing or showing it.
Speaker 3 (52:15):
The Angels have fun tonight.
Speaker 2 (52:19):
Tell Mike Trinco and Jamal Crawford second best score on
the broadcast team.
Speaker 10 (52:27):
Now, why are you now you're trying to get me going.
Speaker 3 (52:30):
No, you're the number one.
Speaker 10 (52:31):
Okay, yes, he's too.
Speaker 2 (52:33):
No you're not two. Okay, you're the best. You're the
best shooter. I haven't seen your best shooter.
Speaker 12 (52:40):
But in terms of handling it, because look, Jamal could
go out. Jamal can give either one of these teams tonight.
He can give them fifteen twenty minutes right now, seriously,
yes he could.
Speaker 10 (52:52):
Jamal could.
Speaker 3 (52:53):
That'd be great.
Speaker 12 (52:54):
Jamal could probably get ten points tonight in tonight's game. Now, well,
they'll probably have to play ZWN, but he could give
them ten points.
Speaker 2 (53:03):
That'd be a great story, that would It'd be great
if he could play in a game and then then
come over broadcast. Now, the NBA has got enough to
worry about that we don't.
Speaker 3 (53:14):
Need to do all right, we're gonna stup. He's Reggie
Alo Wishes Miller. You'll find him.
Speaker 2 (53:21):
Tonight at eight Eastern. Mike Tarico, Reggie and Jamal Crawford.
It's the Knicks in the books, thanks Bud.
Speaker 10 (53:28):
Thank you Theodore. Appreciate my dad. NATS Love you guys,
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