November 3, 2025 • 43 mins
DP and the Danettes recap an incredible Game 7 of the World Series. ESPN football analyst Herm Edwards calls Matthew Stafford a legitimate MVP candidate and expresses concerns with the Cowboys and Packers playing down to their opponents. FOX Sports MLB analyst calls World Series Game 7 one of the greatest he's ever witnessed and compares it to other historic games in baseball history.
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
We have some NFL news. The trade deadline is tomorrow,
and the Philadelphia Eagles have picked up Jalen Phillips from
the Dolphins. There edge rusher who's only twenty six years
of age. The two and seven Dolphins will be selling
probably a little bit more than this, but he could
have left in free agency. So they're gonna get a
(00:26):
third round pick, it looks like. And the Eagles, once again,
this is what they do. They've already picked up JayR Alexander,
a cornerback, Michael Carter, a cornerback, and now you get
Phillips as well. All Right, so football coming up tonight.
A lot to recap from over the weekend, and we'll
get to that as well. We've got to play the
(00:46):
day poll question. Stat of the Day is always Herm Edwards,
the former coach, former player, will join us coming up
as his former quarterback at Arizona State, Jaden Daniels went
down with a dislocated elbow, non throwing elbow, but still
probably done for the rest of the season. Tom Berducci,
who was working the World Series for Fox, will somehow
(01:09):
try to recap what we saw over the weekend as
the Dodgers beat the Jays in seven and Yamamoto pulling
a Randy Johnson, he wins game six and seven just
like Randy Johnson did, and he got the MVP. In fact,
here is well, this is the call of Will Smith's
(01:29):
go ahead home run. I'm going to play the Dodgers
call and then the Blue Jays call. This is courtesy
of the Dodgers radio network.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
The two oh Smith with a smash in the air
to DP pliftfield. This ball is Smith lets it fly
and breaks the tie in game seven.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Okay, here is the Blue Jays radio call. Beaver's two.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Swing in a deep fly left field, straw on the track,
looking up at the wall. It's gone. Will Smith has
given the Dodgers the lead with a solo home run.
First LA lead of the ninth. He's in the top
of the eleventh.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
You start to do the math if you're a Blue
Jays fan. In the seventh inning, Okay, we got to
get nine outs and then all of a sudden it's
eight ounce and then seven. Once again doing the math,
but the Dodgers didn't go away. Crazy plays offense, defense,
Guys that you probably hadn't heard of or didn't expect
to do anything. Guys, you did expect to do something, didn't.
(02:40):
It was wild. But Yamamoto, I thought if he was
able to pitch another great game in Game six and
they won, he would be the MVP. I didn't know
he was going to come back for Game seven. It
was wild. It was wonderful, and I hope people I
hope people were open to the idea of watching the
Dodgers in the Blue Jays. If you're a non baseball fan,
(03:02):
even if you're a baseball fan, I know we look
at the Dodgers. People probably look at them and they're
the now you know, they're the villains, but they shouldn't
be viewed that way in my opinion. I know that
it's a checkbook that's always open, but there is financial
imbalance in baseball. But I would hope that this spurs
(03:23):
other teams to spend more money. The Dodgers will be
favored to win again next year, but you've gone back
to back, You've got three and five years. The Dodgers
may be what baseball does need, and that is spending money.
And I know it's hard to say, well, if we
had that kind of money, and we had Yamamoto. And
if you said at the beginning of the World Series,
(03:45):
the MVP is going to be from Japan, you probably
would have said, show hey Otani. But Yamamoto was wonderful
to watch. Loved watching him throughout and even during the
regular season. Even go back to the World Baseball class.
When you're seeing somebody like that, and I liken him
to Pedro Martinez. He's not big, but you talk about fundamentals.
(04:08):
He's always scribbling in his notebook. I mean, he's really
a true professor of the game and he loves to
have that data and it shows. But for Toronto, you
had your moments. You had your moments, crushing moments, but
you at least had them, and it was wonderful baseball
on the biggest stage of all. All right, seatan whole question.
(04:33):
What are we going to go with in the first
hour of the program.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
Well, it's Monday, so let's start with worst loss of
the weekend. Wow, got some options here for you. Are
the blue Jays in this blue Jays are not Okay,
they're off the boards. That's obviously a terrible one. Okay,
we're going to keep it to just NFL in college football.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Okay, go with those two.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
Why don't we start in the NFL? We could go
straight to your Cincinnati Bengals dropping one to the Chicago Bears.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
They're not my Bengals.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
Paul's Chicago Bay Yes, and somebody else's Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 6 (05:07):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Here is the Bengals. Head coach Zach Taylor is. The
Bengals found yet another way to lose.
Speaker 7 (05:14):
His coaches were just spin this week, finding a way
to help everybody and get it done, because this is
it's sick. It's sick to lose like that. It's sick.
So we got to own it and we got to
keep finding ways to improve and keep finding ways to
find a win.
Speaker 8 (05:29):
As last two weeks has happened.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Okay, you get incredible play from Joe Flacco and no defense. Again,
it didn't matter if you had Joe Burrow this year.
It really didn't. I mean, you got Trey Hendrickson, but
that defense is not good. I wouldn't be surprised if
you ship him out the trade deadline. The way things
are going here, your defense can't be any worse. Might
(05:53):
as well get something for him. But you're watching that,
you know, and look somebody had to win that game.
Somebody had to lose that game too, and the Bears
certainly had their hand in both. You know, maybe winning,
maybe losing. But you're watching the Bengals and all I
thought is can you maintain five hundred. If you can
maintain five hundred for another month or so and maybe
(06:16):
you get Joe Burrow back, it doesn't matter if Joe
Burrow comes back, you're not winning and you're scoring forty
and not winning, that's pretty hard to do. Chase Brown,
the running back for the Bengals, who had one hundred yards,
not happy.
Speaker 9 (06:36):
We just got to play complimentary football, like we put
the ball in the end zone and go up a
point at the end and the game like make them,
make them get us the ball back, let us go
to twenty two victory, and let's end the game.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
That's how that's like.
Speaker 9 (06:49):
That's how I feel any playmaker on this team, any
any position, like we're all willing to do whatever it
takes to win. We just got to finish. I think
that's like what you go into this by week thinking
and kind of repeating to yourself is just finish, finish,
finish these games. Jus finish out what was round through
(07:09):
your head walking back to the locker room chase probably
the same as what was running through your head, like
like what.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
The yeah, kind of a nervous laughter. There a bye week,
you've lost six to seven, and this where you get
a divided locker room. This is when the offense is like, like,
what is up with you guys? Just get a stop
the Bears, you know they're not that good, Just get
(07:39):
a stop. We could have won these games. Yes, yes, hey,
y that.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
It really isn't anything new for the Bengals either, because
you could go back last year they how many one
score losses they had. You know, you lost sixteen to
ten to the Patriots twenty six, twenty five. They have
a lot of very very very close losses over the years.
Over the last two years at least, you don't think
of the Bears as a running team. But when you
(08:06):
give up over two hundred and fifty yards rushing to
the Bears, culture is a word that's used a lot,
and that culture is not good. And Zach Taylor might
be holding on for dear life here because you've lost
six of your last seven and you're giving up forty
points in these games. You're scoring forty and losing. All right,
(08:31):
who else would be on that list there? Seaton, let's
see worst loss of the weekend, we can hit the
man the Colts at Steelers.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
That's a bad loss for the Colts because of how
they lost, because it makes you go Danny Dimes. And
that was one of those where I was curious about
it and then all of a sudden, I go, oh,
Danny Dimes. Maybe he is who we thought we were.
I thought that was going to be the message today,
(09:03):
and maybe it should be. Had three interceptions there when
they have six turnovers, you're not going to beat anybody.
But that's why you've been really good. You haven't been
beating yourself. And Okay, maybe it's one week, and I
would buy into one week, but I don't care what
they do during the regular season. It's going to be
(09:24):
in the postseason. There's certain teams and we've singled them
out before and the Colts are in that category. It's
a wonderful story until you get to the postseason. I
go back to Sam Darnold with the Vikings, man, this
is incredible. He is incredible. They're incredible, and then they
weren't incredible, and then they moved on from him. By
(09:44):
the way, he was unbelievable last night. It was as
about as perfect as you could get. Well was he
sixteen for sixteen with four touchdowns at one point. But
the big headline of that game, why was Jane Daniels
in there? It's thirty eight seven? That was what I
was like, what are you doing? Unless you know? Dan
(10:06):
Quinn was thinking, I, you know, I got to get
got to get him more reps in there. I would
get him out. He's been banged up the last couple
of weeks. Here is dan Quinn answering that question host game.
Speaker 10 (10:21):
I'm asking this really respectfully. I want you to understand that.
But Jade's been hurt three straight times in three straight games.
Does this organization have to take a different approach with
him with regard to keeping him on the field even
if a game's lost, or you think there's a chance,
even if you think there's still a chance to win,
if it's not capable of giving him the support he
(10:43):
needs on the offense and the defensive side for him
to be at his best.
Speaker 11 (10:47):
Yeah, I think the answer to that is we will
give him the support to do that, and I am
certain of that. Dave to make sure that we do
that in every single way, and that's called offense defense,
you know, like the whole way through. Man, we feel
that way on you know, the hamshuring injury and tonight
with an elbow. Yeah, it's really important we get that
part right and we.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Will tough to watch. Shouldn't have been out there at
thirty eight to seven. Uh, just because he's been banged up.
You got a preserve him for the long haul here,
and that long haul is going to be now without
Jayden Daniels, perhaps the rest of the regular season. All right,
(11:28):
let's see eight seven seven three DP show operator Tyler
sitting by. We always do it every Monday, best and
worst of the weekend. What you saw that you liked
you didn't like? Let me get some of the Dodger
fans phone calls out of the way first. Uh, Gus
in La Gus, congratulations.
Speaker 12 (11:46):
Good morning, mister Patrick. How are you and the boys doing?
How are you and the boys doing? Other than my
brother James in Virginia, I think we all had a
pretty damn great week.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Get a week?
Speaker 12 (11:55):
What a weekend? Man? What is season? Let me tell
you something. Let me get this out. Wait, really quick.
I'm gonna get off my sofax really quick, because all
I heard about this weekend from everybody coming at me.
You guys bought this World series. This World Series was
bought for it. No, it wasn't before I continue, hold on,
there we go, we got war but through there cracking.
(12:16):
Let me tell you something. You guys bought this series. Really.
Can anybody name me the pitcher that was ran out
there in Game three of the World Series for four innings,
who made fifty thousand dollars this year? Yeah, we really
bought the World Series, didn't we? Yeah? No. This dodgire
team was a roller coaster of emotions all year. We
set the biggest loss record, not once but white this season.
(12:37):
This team was dead in the water. The Blue Jays
got to bless them. They probably you know, deserved what
they're hitting and they're just monstering and pitching. But at
the end of the day, boy, it's Dodger Blue. I
gotta get dressed. I gotta be at the stadium in
a little bit. We're partying all day. You boys. Have
a great week. Buddha. Oh see your.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Suit pal, Oh thank you Gus. Buddha in San Francisco, Hey, Buddha, congratulations.
Speaker 12 (13:03):
Damn.
Speaker 6 (13:03):
It feels good to be a champion. Every day is
the World Series. Let's go MORVINU best of the Weekend.
Then my Dodgers winning six seven. See what I did there,
Fritzy sixty seven on the road and the first team
to win back to back in fifty years. And best
(13:27):
of the Weekend and winning my bet against Marvin, Oh
blueberry pie in the face and Dan. I have a
proposal for you guys. I'm proposing you guys come to
Herca Restaurant and I administer the pie of the space
when you guys are in San Francisco, when your guys
are doing the Super Bowl week.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
I'll think about it, Buddha. But congratulations. Yeah Marvin you
uh he lost the bet I did.
Speaker 8 (13:56):
Dodgers came through.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Yeah, keep you I'm pretty confident. Keep your head up.
By the way, the starting lineup, Fritzy's here, Seaton, Mark
Paul ears truly and the backroom guys, not the bathroom guys.
I didn't know that. People thought I was talking about
the bathroom guys. It's the back room guys, the brgs. Yes, Paul,
I like that.
Speaker 13 (14:15):
Marvin is now a blue Jays fan, even though he
just likes their logo and colors, not their team or.
Speaker 8 (14:19):
Organization none whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
I just like the logo and they, oh, you want
to make a bet? I mean sure, why not? Well, okay,
you were going into game six and you're up, so
you're up.
Speaker 12 (14:31):
I wasn't.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Well your hat was that you were wearing? You know,
you had a sweatshirt on as well? I did. Yeah,
I mean that's investing a little bit more in that.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio.
Speaker 13 (14:50):
Wapp Hey, It's Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington from The
Odd Couple on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 14 (14:56):
And in addition to hearing us live weeknights from seven
to ten pm Eastern on Fox Sports Radio, we are
excited to announce brand new YouTube channel for the show.
Speaker 13 (15:06):
That's right, you can now watch The Odd Couple live
on YouTube every day.
Speaker 14 (15:12):
All you gotta do search Odd Couple FSR on YouTube.
Again YouTube, just search Odd Couple FSR. Check us out
on YouTube and subscribe.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
We bring in Herm Edwards, ESPN football analyst and former
NFL and college head coach and a former defensive back
as well. How do you react as a coach when
your offense is putting up forty and your defense is
giving up forty and it doesn't enter the locker room,
it doesn't divide the team.
Speaker 13 (15:43):
It's tough, Dan, And obviously that that has kind of
taking place in Cincinnati right now, and that's a tough
conversation that you're going to have to have with the
whole team. But then particularly was some of the players
that are a little frustrated to this point, you're gonna
have to call them in and say, look, I understand.
Speaker 8 (16:05):
Well, we all we.
Speaker 13 (16:07):
All get it, but we got to make sure we
keep this in house and that we continue to try
to win a game.
Speaker 8 (16:15):
And obviously, when you coach.
Speaker 13 (16:19):
On one side of the ball your whole life, unless
say I was a defensive guy, you take it personal
that your defense is playing like this.
Speaker 8 (16:29):
As a head coach, or if.
Speaker 13 (16:30):
Your offense on the on the other side of it,
you know you're losing games up, you know, fourteen to
seven and stuff like that, and you're going, hey, man, offensively,
so you.
Speaker 8 (16:40):
Take it personal. Obviously, you talk.
Speaker 13 (16:42):
To those guys on the side of the ball defensive
coaches and say, look, what are we doing to make
sure that then they don't get the big explosive place
because when you watch Cincinnati, I mean it's.
Speaker 8 (16:55):
Almost like, oh man, I mean every.
Speaker 13 (16:58):
Time they throw the ball and it's a twenty yard
you know, and look, they might not have a rush
with all that, but you got to stop that. You
got to stop some breeding somewhere, right if they're running
the ball, and as well, you say, coach, you know,
we gotta put I don't care if.
Speaker 8 (17:14):
We put nine guys in the box, they're not gonna
run the ball. We gotta do something to stop this.
So that's part of the discussion.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Watching the Chiefs yesterday, not surprised they lost in Buffalo.
But here is the bigger picture. DraftKings still has them
with I think Buffalo as the team to beat for
the super Bowl the best odds. And I'm going, okay,
if I said, would you bet on the Chiefs making
(17:41):
the super Bowl or not making the playoffs right now?
Because both are a very realistic.
Speaker 13 (17:52):
I think I think they find a way to get
in the playoffs, right because look, Dan, the more you
look at this and I'm kind of looking at this
I'm going to look, there's only two teams with seven wins.
Speaker 8 (18:07):
There's what six teams with six wins.
Speaker 13 (18:10):
I mean, it's like all these divisions all of a
sudden have kind of they're close.
Speaker 8 (18:17):
I mean they're close all of a sudden.
Speaker 13 (18:19):
If I'd have told you, hey, by the way, in
week nine, the Chicago Bears are going to have the
same record as the Green Bay Packers and the Detroit Lines.
You say, coach, what you're talking about? Oh, they all
got five wins? Five five, five wins? And so you
sit here and every time you think you figured out
(18:40):
a division or a team, you go, they're all the same, right,
I mean, Dan, I mean, we generally have a team
that time runs away from everybody. That's not the case anymore.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
But your eyes don't lie when, like you can tell,
let's take the record out of this.
Speaker 12 (19:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
And then sometimes you look at a team and you know,
the Bears aren't as good as the Lions or the Packers,
but they're, you know, on equal footing here. The Chargers
in the Broncos aren't as good as the Chiefs probably
in people's minds. But your eyes don't lie when you're
watching some of the You know, the Broncos want a
really tough game.
Speaker 13 (19:23):
You are correct, and the Broncos are hard out because
they don't allow you to score points. They got a
young quarterback. They don't give up a lot of points.
I mean they hold you under it. When a defense
can hold you under twenty points last time I checked,
that's pretty good, right in this league, in the NFL,
where it's a throwing league, everybody can score when and
(19:44):
so you're running against some teams now that all of
a sudden defensively Seattle.
Speaker 8 (19:50):
Seahawks, they play good deal.
Speaker 13 (19:52):
There's some teams that are playing deep and it warms.
Speaker 8 (19:55):
My heart when I see it.
Speaker 13 (19:56):
I go, oh, we can still play defense in this league, right,
And I think those teams that can do that, they
have the ability to go.
Speaker 8 (20:03):
On the road and beat teams. Right when you can play.
Speaker 13 (20:07):
Defense because defense travels, it can play in any any condition.
Speaker 8 (20:11):
Offense not so much.
Speaker 13 (20:13):
If you're in in a dome, yeah, but when you
get outside, all of a sudden, the offenses are the
weather kind of predicts we can't throw it fifty times
a day, boys, right, It's it's interesting.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Why was Jaden Daniels in there? Down thirty eight to seven.
Speaker 13 (20:29):
Yeah, that's that's a hard one there, And I knew
that was gonna come up as soon as I saw it.
Speaker 8 (20:35):
Yeah, And I think there comes a point to where, first.
Speaker 13 (20:37):
Of all, we know the players are competitive and they
don't ever want to come out.
Speaker 8 (20:41):
Sometimes you got to protection from yourself.
Speaker 13 (20:42):
And I think there's a point in that third quarter
where you're looking at it and you're going to how
many possessions do I have left? I got four possessions
left probably in this game. Ah, coach, we got to
have to pull the quarterback right, and you got to
make that decision. And it's hard, and sometimes you get
caught up in the game and you're so competitive you
want your good guys in the game, and.
Speaker 8 (21:04):
But there comes a point to where you got.
Speaker 13 (21:06):
I gotta get him out right, because he's already been
in or twice.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
I know that's the point. When I'm watching, I'm going
take him out, take him out. I know he just
got back. I don't want to give him more reps.
I want to protect him long haul. And now a
season's over.
Speaker 13 (21:23):
Yeah, because you're not bringing him back. I don't care
what they say he's done for the year. I mean,
if that's if I'm that I'm in that organization, I'm going,
hey we can we look, we we got to now,
you know, three times in one year is a lot,
So let's just rest him.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Now we're talking to Herm Edwards of the Mothership. Yeah,
I got the odds here super Bowl odds. The Bills
have the best odds. Then it's the Chiefs, then it's
the Rams. Matthew Stafford has stayed healthy, Herm and I
thought if he stayed healthy, I thought they they were
(22:00):
going to beat the Eagles last year. If that game
goes sixty seconds more, they probably win that game. I
just don't like he's been incredible. When you talk about
MVP candidate, we might not be talking about him, but
Stafford has been wonderful.
Speaker 8 (22:16):
He's unbelievable.
Speaker 13 (22:17):
He's fun to watch and look and they were winning
games without Nicola.
Speaker 8 (22:21):
Now he's back.
Speaker 13 (22:22):
And their defense doesn't get a lot of credit. They
do a nice job too. This is a very well
coordinated team. They can run the football, they can throw
the football. They play good defense, They have the elements
that can travel.
Speaker 8 (22:34):
They look I know they you know, they playing.
Speaker 13 (22:36):
A dome and on it, they can play outside.
Speaker 8 (22:39):
This team, they ain't wont of them teams? Oh I
got to play a dome? No no, no, no, no,
they can go play outside. Right.
Speaker 13 (22:45):
They're a tough football team.
Speaker 8 (22:49):
It's just they're in a division. Do I look at
that division? I go, wow, everyone's got six wins over there. See,
Adam's got San Francisco, believe it or not.
Speaker 13 (22:57):
With all the injuries, San Francisco is still finding to
win football games.
Speaker 8 (23:01):
And then the Rams. The Rams are probably the fun
team to watch because of how they play offense. Right,
this is like, wow, look at this stuff. Man, it's
just fun. And then you.
Speaker 13 (23:12):
Marvel at Matthew Stafford, and you Matthew mentioned Matthew Stafford.
We gotta tip our hat to this guy. How about
Joe Flacco, I mean Joe Flacco. It's almost like he
just hey, he leaves for a couple of weeks. Get
him at the bus stop, Hey, Joe, come on in here.
And all he does is throw touchdowns. A guy, the
(23:34):
guy just throw touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Unbelievable, unbelievable. He's doing exactly what Joe Burrow would be doing. Yes,
but the defense has been terrible here it is. The
Bengals are the first team to lose consecutive games in
which they scored thirty eight or more. You have to
go back to nineteen sixty six last time that happened.
Speaker 13 (23:54):
Yeah, you would think when in the NFL you score
thirty points, you gonna win a lot of football games.
But that's not the league has and you you Dan,
you you've covered the league as long as I've been
involved in it. It's just it's amazing what these quarterbacks
can do and these offenses can do to you now,
and how they can score.
Speaker 8 (24:14):
It's just like it's almost reminds you of college football something.
I'm like this NFL man, they just score.
Speaker 13 (24:20):
If you don't have a pass rush and you don't tackle, well,
you got a problem. You got a major problem. And
there's a lot of teams that don't have those two.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Convince me that what you saw with the Colts is
not part of a bigger picture, bigger problem for this team.
Speaker 8 (24:38):
Well, this was the test for the Colts.
Speaker 13 (24:41):
And I've been saying, Look, he went from Danny Dimes
to Indiana Jones.
Speaker 8 (24:45):
When he was in Indiana.
Speaker 13 (24:46):
Now and then he plays Pittsburgh and Pittsburgh just lost
the prior week.
Speaker 8 (24:51):
At home and I said it. I'm a student.
Speaker 13 (24:54):
I said, Pittsburgh ain't losing another one at home boys,
And you know what showed up kind of like the
Ravens have done the last couple of weeks. The Pittsburgh
defense showed up and it was like, oh boy, then
he had no shot. They had no shot to win
that game. The way that defense played five sacks turnover.
Speaker 8 (25:14):
That he had no shot. It was like, oh, and
so now you off for the Colts.
Speaker 6 (25:22):
I y.
Speaker 8 (25:26):
You know every week they were winning.
Speaker 13 (25:28):
When they were winning, you kept standing the wheels are
coming off, and then they just kept winning and finally
said maybe they're a really good team. And then they
played Pittsburgh, And now you're scratching your head again, Well
what kind of team are they?
Speaker 12 (25:40):
Right?
Speaker 8 (25:40):
I think they win the division? Right? I mean the
Jaguars gonna win the division.
Speaker 13 (25:46):
No, Houston Texas gonna win the division. No, Tennessee, the
Titan's gonna win a division. No, it's their division to lose.
Indianapolis Colts are gonna win the division.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Explain to me how the Packers at home, Yeah, lose
to I'm gonna give Carolina credit. Okay, they played well
and they run the football. They kept it close. And
but you're the Packers at home.
Speaker 13 (26:15):
That was any You're right, Dan, because that's a special
place and.
Speaker 8 (26:20):
And I know that being a former.
Speaker 13 (26:22):
Player going to Green Bay, playing there and coaching against
the Packers as well.
Speaker 8 (26:28):
The Packers played down to the competition. And here's my
take on it too. You know what I said, think
about it, man.
Speaker 13 (26:37):
This year, for some reason, they're bringing back to these
old uniforms, and almost.
Speaker 8 (26:44):
Ninety percent of the teams that wore those old uniforms
they lose. When I looked at the Green Bay Packers and.
Speaker 13 (26:50):
They had that old helmet on, I said, these boys are.
Speaker 8 (26:52):
Today the trump If you want to wear those uniforms,
wear them in practice, don't wear them in a real game.
I mean I saw that true. Just wear that banana
suit they had on auto, and.
Speaker 13 (27:02):
I said, that is the ugliest looking thing I've ever seen.
Speaker 8 (27:05):
They lost.
Speaker 13 (27:06):
Pittsburgh went back to that old universe.
Speaker 8 (27:08):
They lost. Every time I turn them out, when they.
Speaker 13 (27:11):
Put on that suits, them old suits, I go, they're
gonna lose.
Speaker 8 (27:15):
You don't want to see those those suits.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Although Seattle brought back the Jim Zorn uniform and that
was okay.
Speaker 13 (27:23):
We're used to that one when they take it way back.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Can't take it too far back.
Speaker 8 (27:28):
No, that was.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
What do you expect? Is this going to be a
game tonight? Can this be a game tonight with the
Cowboys and the Cardinals?
Speaker 13 (27:42):
If you're the Cowboys, you don't want to make it
a game. This offense can score now they can, and
the Cardinals are struggling some. But the offense of the
Dallas Cowboys, you know, prior to the last couple of weeks,
this is the number one offense in the league. Now
their defense wasn't very good.
Speaker 8 (28:00):
Poor Jerry, he just can't figure it out.
Speaker 13 (28:02):
He's got He's got this high flat offense and Dak
Prescott was playing at MVP level last couple of weeks.
You know, until you know. But this offense is fun
to want. But the defense then they can't stop anybody.
I mean making now so so Arizona might have a chance,
but I don't think they.
Speaker 8 (28:19):
Can keep up with the pace of the Cowboys offense.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Do you think Jerry does something? We saw the Eagles
they made a move here, they made a couple of moves.
Does Jerry go after one of these edge rushers? Does
he try to go re engage with the Raiders, with
Max Crosby, Trey Hendrickson, with the Bengals.
Speaker 8 (28:39):
I would I would think it had a conversation there.
They're three four and one.
Speaker 13 (28:45):
They got to heal the climb to get to the playoffs, right,
I mean they're worth the worst the worst case scenario.
Speaker 8 (28:53):
Can they get in as a wild card? I don't
know that. I don't know that.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Could they have gotten in with Micah Parsons?
Speaker 8 (29:03):
He helps you in this sense. But here's the problem.
They can't stop the run.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Yeah, but they brought in a run stopper.
Speaker 8 (29:13):
Yeah, and they're and their thirty seconds. One guy can't
do it. You need linebackers too, you know, you need
some other guy. One guy just can't do it by hisself.
Speaker 13 (29:24):
He may he may control the A gap, but there's
another A gap over there on the other side.
Speaker 8 (29:28):
There's two B gaps they can run too.
Speaker 13 (29:30):
And the last time I checked, you better have some linebackers.
Speaker 8 (29:32):
They can step up in there and play those gaps.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Is anybody around you there at the mother Ship? Are
you in a room by yourself?
Speaker 8 (29:38):
No, I'm over here. I'm over here in the radio row.
You know I slipped over here.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Yeah. I didn't know if people wanted to know who
you were talking to.
Speaker 8 (29:48):
But they know I told them who else I'm going.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Okay, tell everybody there, I said alone, right, I will.
Speaker 8 (29:54):
I will.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Great to talk to you, buddy, Thank you, Thank you,
my friend.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Fox Sports right has the best sports talk lineup in
the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio
dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to
listen live.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Tom Berducci, sports illustrated senior baseball writer, New York Times
bestselling author, co host of the Book of Joe podcasts
with Joe Madden, did a great job at the World Series. Tom,
If I said what do you think is going to
happen in Game seven? Before Game seven unfolded, you would
have said, what.
Speaker 15 (30:31):
I liked Toronto going into that game because they were
a home But I did not expect that Yesternobi Yamamoto
was going to pitch in that game at all.
Speaker 16 (30:41):
I really didn't.
Speaker 15 (30:42):
It wasn't on my Bengo card that after pitching Game
six he'd come back the next day.
Speaker 16 (30:47):
That was a difference maker.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
What do you think was the turning point in the game.
Speaker 15 (30:53):
Well, the home run by Miggi Rojas, right, I mean
the Jays are two outs away from the first World
Series in thirty two years. Your closer on the mound.
It's a three to two count, number nine hitter. I
understand you can't walk him because Otani is on deck.
He's the go ahead run, right, so you have to
throw a strike. What I didn't like was throwing a slider.
(31:13):
When you have to throw a strike, that's a strike
to strike pitch.
Speaker 16 (31:17):
I'd rather just throw a fastball challenge him. And it
was a hanger.
Speaker 15 (31:22):
I mean, it's a home run that you didn't see coming,
kind of like that Roger Davis home run in sixteen.
This happened to be two outs from the end of
the game. So that was the turning point. And after that,
I just thought the air came out of the building.
It was gonna be tough to beat the Dodgers at
that point, giving up such a renewed life right there.
But listen, that was a stunning as stunning of a
(31:44):
home run as I've seen in the World Series.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Mickey Rojas, you bring up a great point because you
got Otani on deck and you're just kind of thinking,
I just got to get through this. He's the ninth hitter.
Let me just get through this so I don't have
to worry, you know, about tany with anybody on. And
I mean, there were so many little moments here, but
that's what makes up these great games. It's small moments
(32:08):
that can lead to big moments as well. And that's
what was fascinating about this is both teams had those moments.
You either capitalized or you didn't.
Speaker 15 (32:19):
Totally, Dan, I think that's what made this series and
especially this game stand apart. It's been at a lot
of great games obviously, but you can go back, like
watching a great movie, right, you go back and watch
it a second, third, fourth time. It never gets old
because you go back and you rEFInd something like, oh,
I forgot about that point or that line in this movie.
(32:40):
How about Andy Piez going into the game, Dan, I'm
sitting there next to the Dodgers dugout. Andy Piez was
as involved in the game as I was. He's sitting
there with his hoodie on, just watching the game, and
all of a sudden, Danny Leeman, the bench coach, runs
down there and says, get in there. This is bases
loaded ninth, I think, and he just ripped off his hood.
(33:01):
He hadn't warned up at all, runs out the center field,
and two batters later, there he is playing Superman, jumping
over keyk Hernandez to literally save the game.
Speaker 12 (33:10):
Right.
Speaker 15 (33:10):
That looked, for all intents and purposes like Ernie Clement
was going to be the World Series MVP, the Jays
were going to be World champions, and he flies out
of nowhere.
Speaker 16 (33:19):
I mean, he must have ran more than one hundred
feet to get that ball.
Speaker 15 (33:22):
That was one of the great World Series catches of
all time because of what was on the line.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
But was it Okay, we know the result, but was
it a smart play by him in the moment?
Speaker 15 (33:34):
You know, they tell you it's the centerfielder, go get
what you can get, right, So I think it was
in the moment because he was fearless going after that ball.
Speaker 16 (33:43):
I'm not sure that Key.
Speaker 15 (33:44):
K would have caught it over the shoulder with his
face about five feet from the wall at that point,
so I think it was a play that had to
be made. There was a risk obviously they collide and
the ball falls.
Speaker 16 (33:55):
I mean, what a way that would have been to
lose the World Series.
Speaker 15 (33:57):
But I love the aggressive from that kid, he didn't
hit it all in the postseason.
Speaker 16 (34:03):
He's got to play. He'll remember forever.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Yeah, I agree with you centerfield. You have control, you
have license to go after because of the angle. And
that's why I thought, Okay, you may bowl over your teammate,
but you have a better angle than he does. And
he ended up holding on to it. One thing that
I thought was so small, Well, maybe it wasn't touched
(34:26):
on as much that you have that you know, I kft,
he's not off third base, Tom and on contact I'm going.
I just didn't know why he didn't have a little
bit more of a lead, knowing if it's a ground ball,
you're going. And I thought that it became it shouldn't
have been close at home. I thought that he would
(34:47):
have been down the line a little bit.
Speaker 15 (34:49):
Yeah, it's a great point, and in real time I
had the same reaction. But looking at it again, and
a lot of teams teach this in that situation, shorter
lead it because the worst thing that can happen is
what a line drive and you get doubled up and
the game's over. So there's more of the emphasis on
a better secondary than getting the longer primary lead. At
(35:10):
third base. He's a smart baseball player. I am not
going to question him on that. I think he was.
Speaker 16 (35:16):
We already saw a line drive.
Speaker 15 (35:18):
To Muncie in that game. I don't know how he
caught other than self defense. You cannot get doubled up
at third base. I think that's the right way to go.
You can argue he could have been a little more aggressive,
but on this case, I'll air on the side of
IKF being a smart ball player making the right call.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Was that the greatest game that you've ever been a
part of.
Speaker 15 (35:38):
I have a hard time putting it up above Game
seven of twenty sixteen. You know, I still go back
to that seventeen minute rain delay. That just that pregnant
pause in the game. You're like, the game is tied
in the World Series, and we're gonna stop and have
a seventeen minute timeout with two teams that had won forever.
And that was another game, by the way, that had
(35:59):
so many twists and turns. It wasn't just the end,
it was all the pivot points in the course of
the game where history was changing minute by minute.
Speaker 16 (36:07):
This is right up there, though, because.
Speaker 15 (36:08):
Again I think there was so much to absorb in
this game, Dan, actually the whole series where I don't
know how many times you thought this, like the Dodgers
are going to win the World Series, the Ja's are.
Speaker 16 (36:18):
Gonna win the World Series, right, Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 15 (36:21):
You couldn't have written any better as far as Cliffhangers.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Go, and Dave Roberts had one of the great late
inning managerial games in the history of the sport. Everything
he did worked totally, I thought all throughout. I mean,
when you think about will Smith, you know he moved
will Smith up to the two hole because the Jays kept.
Speaker 15 (36:44):
Walking show Hey Otani and MOOKI wasn't swinging a hot
bat and Will Smith was, so I think it was
Game five he moved will Smith up to number two
where he just doesn't hit, But it was because he
was the hotter bat. He's the one who HiT's the
home run, two outs, bases empty in the eleventh, getting
Mookie down in the order for Game six, he said,
I want him in an RBI spot. Maybe that'll help
(37:05):
him relax to swing for a base hit. He had
that huge two strike, two run, two out hit. I
really won the game for him in six, So you're right,
the defense there Miggy. I mean just the idea that
you know he told us before Game five, Before Game six,
he put Miguel Rojas in the game, who had had
a base hit for a month, literally thirty one days
(37:26):
since he had a base hit. Put him in the
game because, as he told us, he's such a glue guy.
Speaker 16 (37:31):
I mean so much to this team.
Speaker 15 (37:33):
I couldn't see going home losing the World Series without
giving him a chance to play. I had nothing to
do with the analytics or numbers. It's a look in
the eye that says, if I'm going down, I'm going
down with this guy. And not just the home run,
but how about his defensive plays. I mean the pick
he made on Key K's double play in Game six
to end the game.
Speaker 16 (37:52):
Wow, that was a great play.
Speaker 15 (37:54):
And then of course you mentioned the play thrown out
ikf at the plate, so you're right. I mean, Dave
Roberts made some you know, I call them blink moments
there and the course of a game where you have
to make a quick decision, and it seemed like, if
not all of them, most of them certainly worked out
in his favor.
Speaker 16 (38:10):
I thought he had a great series.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Tom Bernucci Sports illustrated senior baseball writer Fox Sports on
MLB Otani's legacy. I don't know. Did he get a
boost here in the last month.
Speaker 12 (38:24):
Uh?
Speaker 16 (38:24):
Yeah, I mean greatest game ever, you know, ten.
Speaker 15 (38:27):
Strikeout game with three home runs. Yeah, I mean the
eighteen in game, nine times on base.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Greatest World Series game of all time turned in by one.
Speaker 15 (38:40):
Point on base. That's gonna be tough to be. Two
home runs, four extra base hits for the first time
in one hundred and eight years in the World Series. Yeah,
I mean, and then he goes out and pitches the
next day seventeen hours later.
Speaker 16 (38:54):
Now I thought he was gassed. I mean, I really think.
Speaker 15 (38:58):
There's a point where even uh is showing E on
the on the on the gas tank.
Speaker 16 (39:04):
But uh, he pitched it as well as he could.
Speaker 15 (39:08):
But I think his legacy Dan is cemented again by
he's a winning ballplayer. You know, he joins the Dodgers
and they've won two World Championships since he got to
pitch in the World Series for the first time. This
was the first time we saw a show. Hey, you know,
pitching and hitting in a World Series. And last year
he had the shoulder issue early against the Yankees. He
(39:29):
was certainly compromised there. But yeah, he keeps going further
and further away from anybody else who ever played the game.
It's it's not sacrilegious to say this is the best
baseball player who has ever played.
Speaker 16 (39:43):
This game, and he keeps making it more certain.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
If Babe Ruth knew that o'twani would do this later on,
would Babe have stayed a pitcher and a hitter.
Speaker 15 (39:56):
That is a great question, because you just reminded me
of this base dinner in New York years ago. It
was after Katseko goes forty forty and Mickey Mantle was
at the dinner and it was late in the night,
so you can imagine how Mickey was keeping himself hydrated.
So after Katsiko got the award, Mickey actually wanted to
go back up to the podium and he said, listen,
(40:17):
if you guys, if I knew you guy makes such
a big deal out of forty forty, I'd have done
it like five times. But you know, going back to
the Babe, you know, he actually said he really never
had two full seasons like start to finish a two
way play. And he actually said after the second one
it's just too hard, you know. I think his heart's
(40:39):
based on what I've read, was really into hitting and
that's what that was his love where I think show
has DNA begins with pitching, and baby Bruce said, it's
just too hard.
Speaker 16 (40:47):
Physically to keep up.
Speaker 15 (40:49):
I want to hit, and you know, I don't want
to feel, you know, sore, armed or whatever play in
the outfield because there was no DHU, so I don't
think the babe would do it. The question is how
long can show Hey do this right? And watching the
physical wear and tear on him, especially after that eighteen
in the game, Dan, I started to think we better
enjoy this because I don't think it came met lasts
(41:10):
much longer. But then I asked Dave Roberts and he said,
I don't see any reason why he can't keep doing
this two way pitching and hitting it twenty twenty five
starts a.
Speaker 16 (41:20):
Year for years and years and years. This guy is
just amazing.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
And Vlad Guerrero, you know what, an incredible series and
a losing effort, and you saw how emotional he was
after the game. He was in tears. He did everything,
just about everything possible to win a World.
Speaker 15 (41:40):
Series I'm glad you brought him up, Dan, because we
knew he was a great hitter.
Speaker 16 (41:44):
I think this whole postseason, especially.
Speaker 15 (41:47):
The World Series, pointed out what a great baseball player
this guy is. I mean, I remember a game when
Max Schurzer was pitching in Seattle in the ALCS, and
he's got a problem tipping his pitches. Was the one
of the first inning who stopped him and went to
the mound and say, hey, watch your hands. Here runners
are picking it up. There was a throw at third
(42:08):
base Barger threw the runner out at third instead of
throwing home. It was Glad who told him to throw
it to third, not to home. The defensive plays I
counted three great ones he made just in Game seven.
Speaker 16 (42:20):
And you're right.
Speaker 15 (42:21):
You saw the emotion on his face, how much this
meant to him, The swings he put on the baseball, Dan,
if you go back and look at it, this wasn't
the guy trying to.
Speaker 16 (42:30):
Hit home runs.
Speaker 15 (42:31):
This was a guy doing whatever he could to get
on base, shortening up sometimes even early in counts, sitting
on pitches.
Speaker 16 (42:38):
I was blown away by Vlad and his all around game.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
Great stuff. Are you now off? You're not doing anything.
Speaker 15 (42:49):
I wish I could say that, but no, it's starting
at MLB Network. We start Awards week next week, start
aligning up the finalists for the awards tonight on it
will be network. Of course, everybody wants to wait for
the al NBP vote. That's going to be a cliffhanger
Judge and Raleigh. So I'm not getting on a plane.
Speaker 16 (43:09):
So that's big.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
Thanks again, Tom, Hey, my pleasure. All right, that's Tom Berducci.
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
We have some NFL news. The trade deadline is tomorrow,
and the Philadelphia Eagles have picked up Jalen Phillips from
the Dolphins. There edge rusher who's only twenty six years
of age. The two and seven Dolphins will be selling
probably a little bit more than this, but he could
have left in free agency. So they're gonna get a
(00:26):
third round pick, it looks like. And the Eagles, once again,
this is what they do. They've already picked up JayR Alexander,
a cornerback, Michael Carter, a cornerback, and now you get
Phillips as well. All Right, so football coming up tonight.
A lot to recap from over the weekend, and we'll
get to that as well. We've got to play the
(00:46):
day poll question. Stat of the Day is always Herm Edwards,
the former coach, former player, will join us coming up
as his former quarterback at Arizona State, Jaden Daniels went
down with a dislocated elbow, non throwing elbow, but still
probably done for the rest of the season. Tom Berducci,
who was working the World Series for Fox, will somehow
(01:09):
try to recap what we saw over the weekend as
the Dodgers beat the Jays in seven and Yamamoto pulling
a Randy Johnson, he wins game six and seven just
like Randy Johnson did, and he got the MVP. In fact,
here is well, this is the call of Will Smith's
(01:29):
go ahead home run. I'm going to play the Dodgers
call and then the Blue Jays call. This is courtesy
of the Dodgers radio network.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
The two oh Smith with a smash in the air
to DP pliftfield. This ball is Smith lets it fly
and breaks the tie in game seven.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Okay, here is the Blue Jays radio call. Beaver's two.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Swing in a deep fly left field, straw on the track,
looking up at the wall. It's gone. Will Smith has
given the Dodgers the lead with a solo home run.
First LA lead of the ninth. He's in the top
of the eleventh.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
You start to do the math if you're a Blue
Jays fan. In the seventh inning, Okay, we got to
get nine outs and then all of a sudden it's
eight ounce and then seven. Once again doing the math,
but the Dodgers didn't go away. Crazy plays offense, defense,
Guys that you probably hadn't heard of or didn't expect
to do anything. Guys, you did expect to do something, didn't.
(02:40):
It was wild. But Yamamoto, I thought if he was
able to pitch another great game in Game six and
they won, he would be the MVP. I didn't know
he was going to come back for Game seven. It
was wild. It was wonderful, and I hope people I
hope people were open to the idea of watching the
Dodgers in the Blue Jays. If you're a non baseball fan,
(03:02):
even if you're a baseball fan, I know we look
at the Dodgers. People probably look at them and they're
the now you know, they're the villains, but they shouldn't
be viewed that way in my opinion. I know that
it's a checkbook that's always open, but there is financial
imbalance in baseball. But I would hope that this spurs
(03:23):
other teams to spend more money. The Dodgers will be
favored to win again next year, but you've gone back
to back, You've got three and five years. The Dodgers
may be what baseball does need, and that is spending money.
And I know it's hard to say, well, if we
had that kind of money, and we had Yamamoto. And
if you said at the beginning of the World Series,
(03:45):
the MVP is going to be from Japan, you probably
would have said, show hey Otani. But Yamamoto was wonderful
to watch. Loved watching him throughout and even during the
regular season. Even go back to the World Baseball class.
When you're seeing somebody like that, and I liken him
to Pedro Martinez. He's not big, but you talk about fundamentals.
(04:08):
He's always scribbling in his notebook. I mean, he's really
a true professor of the game and he loves to
have that data and it shows. But for Toronto, you
had your moments. You had your moments, crushing moments, but
you at least had them, and it was wonderful baseball
on the biggest stage of all. All right, seatan whole question.
(04:33):
What are we going to go with in the first
hour of the program.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
Well, it's Monday, so let's start with worst loss of
the weekend. Wow, got some options here for you. Are
the blue Jays in this blue Jays are not Okay,
they're off the boards. That's obviously a terrible one. Okay,
we're going to keep it to just NFL in college football.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Okay, go with those two.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
Why don't we start in the NFL? We could go
straight to your Cincinnati Bengals dropping one to the Chicago Bears.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
They're not my Bengals.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
Paul's Chicago Bay Yes, and somebody else's Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 6 (05:07):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Here is the Bengals. Head coach Zach Taylor is. The
Bengals found yet another way to lose.
Speaker 7 (05:14):
His coaches were just spin this week, finding a way
to help everybody and get it done, because this is
it's sick. It's sick to lose like that. It's sick.
So we got to own it and we got to
keep finding ways to improve and keep finding ways to
find a win.
Speaker 8 (05:29):
As last two weeks has happened.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Okay, you get incredible play from Joe Flacco and no defense. Again,
it didn't matter if you had Joe Burrow this year.
It really didn't. I mean, you got Trey Hendrickson, but
that defense is not good. I wouldn't be surprised if
you ship him out the trade deadline. The way things
are going here, your defense can't be any worse. Might
(05:53):
as well get something for him. But you're watching that,
you know, and look somebody had to win that game.
Somebody had to lose that game too, and the Bears
certainly had their hand in both. You know, maybe winning,
maybe losing. But you're watching the Bengals and all I
thought is can you maintain five hundred. If you can
maintain five hundred for another month or so and maybe
(06:16):
you get Joe Burrow back, it doesn't matter if Joe
Burrow comes back, you're not winning and you're scoring forty
and not winning, that's pretty hard to do. Chase Brown,
the running back for the Bengals, who had one hundred yards,
not happy.
Speaker 9 (06:36):
We just got to play complimentary football, like we put
the ball in the end zone and go up a
point at the end and the game like make them,
make them get us the ball back, let us go
to twenty two victory, and let's end the game.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
That's how that's like.
Speaker 9 (06:49):
That's how I feel any playmaker on this team, any
any position, like we're all willing to do whatever it
takes to win. We just got to finish. I think
that's like what you go into this by week thinking
and kind of repeating to yourself is just finish, finish,
finish these games. Jus finish out what was round through
(07:09):
your head walking back to the locker room chase probably
the same as what was running through your head, like
like what.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
The yeah, kind of a nervous laughter. There a bye week,
you've lost six to seven, and this where you get
a divided locker room. This is when the offense is like, like,
what is up with you guys? Just get a stop
the Bears, you know they're not that good, Just get
(07:39):
a stop. We could have won these games. Yes, yes, hey,
y that.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
It really isn't anything new for the Bengals either, because
you could go back last year they how many one
score losses they had. You know, you lost sixteen to
ten to the Patriots twenty six, twenty five. They have
a lot of very very very close losses over the years.
Over the last two years at least, you don't think
of the Bears as a running team. But when you
(08:06):
give up over two hundred and fifty yards rushing to
the Bears, culture is a word that's used a lot,
and that culture is not good. And Zach Taylor might
be holding on for dear life here because you've lost
six of your last seven and you're giving up forty
points in these games. You're scoring forty and losing. All right,
(08:31):
who else would be on that list there? Seaton, let's
see worst loss of the weekend, we can hit the
man the Colts at Steelers.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
That's a bad loss for the Colts because of how
they lost, because it makes you go Danny Dimes. And
that was one of those where I was curious about
it and then all of a sudden, I go, oh,
Danny Dimes. Maybe he is who we thought we were.
I thought that was going to be the message today,
(09:03):
and maybe it should be. Had three interceptions there when
they have six turnovers, you're not going to beat anybody.
But that's why you've been really good. You haven't been
beating yourself. And Okay, maybe it's one week, and I
would buy into one week, but I don't care what
they do during the regular season. It's going to be
(09:24):
in the postseason. There's certain teams and we've singled them
out before and the Colts are in that category. It's
a wonderful story until you get to the postseason. I
go back to Sam Darnold with the Vikings, man, this
is incredible. He is incredible. They're incredible, and then they
weren't incredible, and then they moved on from him. By
(09:44):
the way, he was unbelievable last night. It was as
about as perfect as you could get. Well was he
sixteen for sixteen with four touchdowns at one point. But
the big headline of that game, why was Jane Daniels
in there? It's thirty eight seven? That was what I
was like, what are you doing? Unless you know? Dan
(10:06):
Quinn was thinking, I, you know, I got to get
got to get him more reps in there. I would
get him out. He's been banged up the last couple
of weeks. Here is dan Quinn answering that question host game.
Speaker 10 (10:21):
I'm asking this really respectfully. I want you to understand that.
But Jade's been hurt three straight times in three straight games.
Does this organization have to take a different approach with
him with regard to keeping him on the field even
if a game's lost, or you think there's a chance,
even if you think there's still a chance to win,
if it's not capable of giving him the support he
(10:43):
needs on the offense and the defensive side for him
to be at his best.
Speaker 11 (10:47):
Yeah, I think the answer to that is we will
give him the support to do that, and I am
certain of that. Dave to make sure that we do
that in every single way, and that's called offense defense,
you know, like the whole way through. Man, we feel
that way on you know, the hamshuring injury and tonight
with an elbow. Yeah, it's really important we get that
part right and we.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Will tough to watch. Shouldn't have been out there at
thirty eight to seven. Uh, just because he's been banged up.
You got a preserve him for the long haul here,
and that long haul is going to be now without
Jayden Daniels, perhaps the rest of the regular season. All right,
(11:28):
let's see eight seven seven three DP show operator Tyler
sitting by. We always do it every Monday, best and
worst of the weekend. What you saw that you liked
you didn't like? Let me get some of the Dodger
fans phone calls out of the way first. Uh, Gus
in La Gus, congratulations.
Speaker 12 (11:46):
Good morning, mister Patrick. How are you and the boys doing?
How are you and the boys doing? Other than my
brother James in Virginia, I think we all had a
pretty damn great week.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Get a week?
Speaker 12 (11:55):
What a weekend? Man? What is season? Let me tell
you something. Let me get this out. Wait, really quick.
I'm gonna get off my sofax really quick, because all
I heard about this weekend from everybody coming at me.
You guys bought this World series. This World Series was
bought for it. No, it wasn't before I continue, hold on,
there we go, we got war but through there cracking.
(12:16):
Let me tell you something. You guys bought this series. Really.
Can anybody name me the pitcher that was ran out
there in Game three of the World Series for four innings,
who made fifty thousand dollars this year? Yeah, we really
bought the World Series, didn't we? Yeah? No. This dodgire
team was a roller coaster of emotions all year. We
set the biggest loss record, not once but white this season.
(12:37):
This team was dead in the water. The Blue Jays
got to bless them. They probably you know, deserved what
they're hitting and they're just monstering and pitching. But at
the end of the day, boy, it's Dodger Blue. I
gotta get dressed. I gotta be at the stadium in
a little bit. We're partying all day. You boys. Have
a great week. Buddha. Oh see your.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Suit pal, Oh thank you Gus. Buddha in San Francisco, Hey, Buddha, congratulations.
Speaker 12 (13:03):
Damn.
Speaker 6 (13:03):
It feels good to be a champion. Every day is
the World Series. Let's go MORVINU best of the Weekend.
Then my Dodgers winning six seven. See what I did there,
Fritzy sixty seven on the road and the first team
to win back to back in fifty years. And best
(13:27):
of the Weekend and winning my bet against Marvin, Oh
blueberry pie in the face and Dan. I have a
proposal for you guys. I'm proposing you guys come to
Herca Restaurant and I administer the pie of the space
when you guys are in San Francisco, when your guys
are doing the Super Bowl week.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
I'll think about it, Buddha. But congratulations. Yeah Marvin you
uh he lost the bet I did.
Speaker 8 (13:56):
Dodgers came through.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Yeah, keep you I'm pretty confident. Keep your head up.
By the way, the starting lineup, Fritzy's here, Seaton, Mark
Paul ears truly and the backroom guys, not the bathroom guys.
I didn't know that. People thought I was talking about
the bathroom guys. It's the back room guys, the brgs. Yes, Paul,
I like that.
Speaker 13 (14:15):
Marvin is now a blue Jays fan, even though he
just likes their logo and colors, not their team or.
Speaker 8 (14:19):
Organization none whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
I just like the logo and they, oh, you want
to make a bet? I mean sure, why not? Well, okay,
you were going into game six and you're up, so
you're up.
Speaker 12 (14:31):
I wasn't.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Well your hat was that you were wearing? You know,
you had a sweatshirt on as well? I did. Yeah,
I mean that's investing a little bit more in that.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio.
Speaker 13 (14:50):
Wapp Hey, It's Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington from The
Odd Couple on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 14 (14:56):
And in addition to hearing us live weeknights from seven
to ten pm Eastern on Fox Sports Radio, we are
excited to announce brand new YouTube channel for the show.
Speaker 13 (15:06):
That's right, you can now watch The Odd Couple live
on YouTube every day.
Speaker 14 (15:12):
All you gotta do search Odd Couple FSR on YouTube.
Again YouTube, just search Odd Couple FSR. Check us out
on YouTube and subscribe.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
We bring in Herm Edwards, ESPN football analyst and former
NFL and college head coach and a former defensive back
as well. How do you react as a coach when
your offense is putting up forty and your defense is
giving up forty and it doesn't enter the locker room,
it doesn't divide the team.
Speaker 13 (15:43):
It's tough, Dan, And obviously that that has kind of
taking place in Cincinnati right now, and that's a tough
conversation that you're going to have to have with the
whole team. But then particularly was some of the players
that are a little frustrated to this point, you're gonna
have to call them in and say, look, I understand.
Speaker 8 (16:05):
Well, we all we.
Speaker 13 (16:07):
All get it, but we got to make sure we
keep this in house and that we continue to try
to win a game.
Speaker 8 (16:15):
And obviously, when you coach.
Speaker 13 (16:19):
On one side of the ball your whole life, unless
say I was a defensive guy, you take it personal
that your defense is playing like this.
Speaker 8 (16:29):
As a head coach, or if.
Speaker 13 (16:30):
Your offense on the on the other side of it,
you know you're losing games up, you know, fourteen to
seven and stuff like that, and you're going, hey, man, offensively,
so you.
Speaker 8 (16:40):
Take it personal. Obviously, you talk.
Speaker 13 (16:42):
To those guys on the side of the ball defensive
coaches and say, look, what are we doing to make
sure that then they don't get the big explosive place
because when you watch Cincinnati, I mean it's.
Speaker 8 (16:55):
Almost like, oh man, I mean every.
Speaker 13 (16:58):
Time they throw the ball and it's a twenty yard
you know, and look, they might not have a rush
with all that, but you got to stop that. You
got to stop some breeding somewhere, right if they're running
the ball, and as well, you say, coach, you know,
we gotta put I don't care if.
Speaker 8 (17:14):
We put nine guys in the box, they're not gonna
run the ball. We gotta do something to stop this.
So that's part of the discussion.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Watching the Chiefs yesterday, not surprised they lost in Buffalo.
But here is the bigger picture. DraftKings still has them
with I think Buffalo as the team to beat for
the super Bowl the best odds. And I'm going, okay,
if I said, would you bet on the Chiefs making
(17:41):
the super Bowl or not making the playoffs right now?
Because both are a very realistic.
Speaker 13 (17:52):
I think I think they find a way to get
in the playoffs, right because look, Dan, the more you
look at this and I'm kind of looking at this
I'm going to look, there's only two teams with seven wins.
Speaker 8 (18:07):
There's what six teams with six wins.
Speaker 13 (18:10):
I mean, it's like all these divisions all of a
sudden have kind of they're close.
Speaker 8 (18:17):
I mean they're close all of a sudden.
Speaker 13 (18:19):
If I'd have told you, hey, by the way, in
week nine, the Chicago Bears are going to have the
same record as the Green Bay Packers and the Detroit Lines.
You say, coach, what you're talking about? Oh, they all
got five wins? Five five, five wins? And so you
sit here and every time you think you figured out
(18:40):
a division or a team, you go, they're all the same, right,
I mean, Dan, I mean, we generally have a team
that time runs away from everybody. That's not the case anymore.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
But your eyes don't lie when, like you can tell,
let's take the record out of this.
Speaker 12 (19:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
And then sometimes you look at a team and you know,
the Bears aren't as good as the Lions or the Packers,
but they're, you know, on equal footing here. The Chargers
in the Broncos aren't as good as the Chiefs probably
in people's minds. But your eyes don't lie when you're
watching some of the You know, the Broncos want a
really tough game.
Speaker 13 (19:23):
You are correct, and the Broncos are hard out because
they don't allow you to score points. They got a
young quarterback. They don't give up a lot of points.
I mean they hold you under it. When a defense
can hold you under twenty points last time I checked,
that's pretty good, right in this league, in the NFL,
where it's a throwing league, everybody can score when and
(19:44):
so you're running against some teams now that all of
a sudden defensively Seattle.
Speaker 8 (19:50):
Seahawks, they play good deal.
Speaker 13 (19:52):
There's some teams that are playing deep and it warms.
Speaker 8 (19:55):
My heart when I see it.
Speaker 13 (19:56):
I go, oh, we can still play defense in this league, right,
And I think those teams that can do that, they
have the ability to go.
Speaker 8 (20:03):
On the road and beat teams. Right when you can play.
Speaker 13 (20:07):
Defense because defense travels, it can play in any any condition.
Speaker 8 (20:11):
Offense not so much.
Speaker 13 (20:13):
If you're in in a dome, yeah, but when you
get outside, all of a sudden, the offenses are the
weather kind of predicts we can't throw it fifty times
a day, boys, right, It's it's interesting.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Why was Jaden Daniels in there? Down thirty eight to seven.
Speaker 13 (20:29):
Yeah, that's that's a hard one there, And I knew
that was gonna come up as soon as I saw it.
Speaker 8 (20:35):
Yeah, And I think there comes a point to where, first.
Speaker 13 (20:37):
Of all, we know the players are competitive and they
don't ever want to come out.
Speaker 8 (20:41):
Sometimes you got to protection from yourself.
Speaker 13 (20:42):
And I think there's a point in that third quarter
where you're looking at it and you're going to how
many possessions do I have left? I got four possessions
left probably in this game. Ah, coach, we got to
have to pull the quarterback right, and you got to
make that decision. And it's hard, and sometimes you get
caught up in the game and you're so competitive you
want your good guys in the game, and.
Speaker 8 (21:04):
But there comes a point to where you got.
Speaker 13 (21:06):
I gotta get him out right, because he's already been
in or twice.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
I know that's the point. When I'm watching, I'm going
take him out, take him out. I know he just
got back. I don't want to give him more reps.
I want to protect him long haul. And now a
season's over.
Speaker 13 (21:23):
Yeah, because you're not bringing him back. I don't care
what they say he's done for the year. I mean,
if that's if I'm that I'm in that organization, I'm going,
hey we can we look, we we got to now,
you know, three times in one year is a lot,
So let's just rest him.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Now we're talking to Herm Edwards of the Mothership. Yeah,
I got the odds here super Bowl odds. The Bills
have the best odds. Then it's the Chiefs, then it's
the Rams. Matthew Stafford has stayed healthy, Herm and I
thought if he stayed healthy, I thought they they were
(22:00):
going to beat the Eagles last year. If that game
goes sixty seconds more, they probably win that game. I
just don't like he's been incredible. When you talk about
MVP candidate, we might not be talking about him, but
Stafford has been wonderful.
Speaker 8 (22:16):
He's unbelievable.
Speaker 13 (22:17):
He's fun to watch and look and they were winning
games without Nicola.
Speaker 8 (22:21):
Now he's back.
Speaker 13 (22:22):
And their defense doesn't get a lot of credit. They
do a nice job too. This is a very well
coordinated team. They can run the football, they can throw
the football. They play good defense, They have the elements
that can travel.
Speaker 8 (22:34):
They look I know they you know, they playing.
Speaker 13 (22:36):
A dome and on it, they can play outside.
Speaker 8 (22:39):
This team, they ain't wont of them teams? Oh I
got to play a dome? No no, no, no, no,
they can go play outside. Right.
Speaker 13 (22:45):
They're a tough football team.
Speaker 8 (22:49):
It's just they're in a division. Do I look at
that division? I go, wow, everyone's got six wins over there. See,
Adam's got San Francisco, believe it or not.
Speaker 13 (22:57):
With all the injuries, San Francisco is still finding to
win football games.
Speaker 8 (23:01):
And then the Rams. The Rams are probably the fun
team to watch because of how they play offense. Right,
this is like, wow, look at this stuff. Man, it's
just fun. And then you.
Speaker 13 (23:12):
Marvel at Matthew Stafford, and you Matthew mentioned Matthew Stafford.
We gotta tip our hat to this guy. How about
Joe Flacco, I mean Joe Flacco. It's almost like he
just hey, he leaves for a couple of weeks. Get
him at the bus stop, Hey, Joe, come on in here.
And all he does is throw touchdowns. A guy, the
(23:34):
guy just throw touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Unbelievable, unbelievable. He's doing exactly what Joe Burrow would be doing. Yes,
but the defense has been terrible here it is. The
Bengals are the first team to lose consecutive games in
which they scored thirty eight or more. You have to
go back to nineteen sixty six last time that happened.
Speaker 13 (23:54):
Yeah, you would think when in the NFL you score
thirty points, you gonna win a lot of football games.
But that's not the league has and you you Dan,
you you've covered the league as long as I've been
involved in it. It's just it's amazing what these quarterbacks
can do and these offenses can do to you now,
and how they can score.
Speaker 8 (24:14):
It's just like it's almost reminds you of college football something.
I'm like this NFL man, they just score.
Speaker 13 (24:20):
If you don't have a pass rush and you don't tackle, well,
you got a problem. You got a major problem. And
there's a lot of teams that don't have those two.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Convince me that what you saw with the Colts is
not part of a bigger picture, bigger problem for this team.
Speaker 8 (24:38):
Well, this was the test for the Colts.
Speaker 13 (24:41):
And I've been saying, Look, he went from Danny Dimes
to Indiana Jones.
Speaker 8 (24:45):
When he was in Indiana.
Speaker 13 (24:46):
Now and then he plays Pittsburgh and Pittsburgh just lost
the prior week.
Speaker 8 (24:51):
At home and I said it. I'm a student.
Speaker 13 (24:54):
I said, Pittsburgh ain't losing another one at home boys,
And you know what showed up kind of like the
Ravens have done the last couple of weeks. The Pittsburgh
defense showed up and it was like, oh boy, then
he had no shot. They had no shot to win
that game. The way that defense played five sacks turnover.
Speaker 8 (25:14):
That he had no shot. It was like, oh, and
so now you off for the Colts.
Speaker 6 (25:22):
I y.
Speaker 8 (25:26):
You know every week they were winning.
Speaker 13 (25:28):
When they were winning, you kept standing the wheels are
coming off, and then they just kept winning and finally
said maybe they're a really good team. And then they
played Pittsburgh, And now you're scratching your head again, Well
what kind of team are they?
Speaker 12 (25:40):
Right?
Speaker 8 (25:40):
I think they win the division? Right? I mean the
Jaguars gonna win the division.
Speaker 13 (25:46):
No, Houston Texas gonna win the division. No, Tennessee, the
Titan's gonna win a division. No, it's their division to lose.
Indianapolis Colts are gonna win the division.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Explain to me how the Packers at home, Yeah, lose
to I'm gonna give Carolina credit. Okay, they played well
and they run the football. They kept it close. And
but you're the Packers at home.
Speaker 13 (26:15):
That was any You're right, Dan, because that's a special
place and.
Speaker 8 (26:20):
And I know that being a former.
Speaker 13 (26:22):
Player going to Green Bay, playing there and coaching against
the Packers as well.
Speaker 8 (26:28):
The Packers played down to the competition. And here's my
take on it too. You know what I said, think
about it, man.
Speaker 13 (26:37):
This year, for some reason, they're bringing back to these
old uniforms, and almost.
Speaker 8 (26:44):
Ninety percent of the teams that wore those old uniforms
they lose. When I looked at the Green Bay Packers and.
Speaker 13 (26:50):
They had that old helmet on, I said, these boys are.
Speaker 8 (26:52):
Today the trump If you want to wear those uniforms,
wear them in practice, don't wear them in a real game.
I mean I saw that true. Just wear that banana
suit they had on auto, and.
Speaker 13 (27:02):
I said, that is the ugliest looking thing I've ever seen.
Speaker 8 (27:05):
They lost.
Speaker 13 (27:06):
Pittsburgh went back to that old universe.
Speaker 8 (27:08):
They lost. Every time I turn them out, when they.
Speaker 13 (27:11):
Put on that suits, them old suits, I go, they're
gonna lose.
Speaker 8 (27:15):
You don't want to see those those suits.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Although Seattle brought back the Jim Zorn uniform and that
was okay.
Speaker 13 (27:23):
We're used to that one when they take it way back.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Can't take it too far back.
Speaker 8 (27:28):
No, that was.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
What do you expect? Is this going to be a
game tonight? Can this be a game tonight with the
Cowboys and the Cardinals?
Speaker 13 (27:42):
If you're the Cowboys, you don't want to make it
a game. This offense can score now they can, and
the Cardinals are struggling some. But the offense of the
Dallas Cowboys, you know, prior to the last couple of weeks,
this is the number one offense in the league. Now
their defense wasn't very good.
Speaker 8 (28:00):
Poor Jerry, he just can't figure it out.
Speaker 13 (28:02):
He's got He's got this high flat offense and Dak
Prescott was playing at MVP level last couple of weeks.
You know, until you know. But this offense is fun
to want. But the defense then they can't stop anybody.
I mean making now so so Arizona might have a chance,
but I don't think they.
Speaker 8 (28:19):
Can keep up with the pace of the Cowboys offense.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Do you think Jerry does something? We saw the Eagles
they made a move here, they made a couple of moves.
Does Jerry go after one of these edge rushers? Does
he try to go re engage with the Raiders, with
Max Crosby, Trey Hendrickson, with the Bengals.
Speaker 8 (28:39):
I would I would think it had a conversation there.
They're three four and one.
Speaker 13 (28:45):
They got to heal the climb to get to the playoffs, right,
I mean they're worth the worst the worst case scenario.
Speaker 8 (28:53):
Can they get in as a wild card? I don't
know that. I don't know that.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Could they have gotten in with Micah Parsons?
Speaker 8 (29:03):
He helps you in this sense. But here's the problem.
They can't stop the run.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Yeah, but they brought in a run stopper.
Speaker 8 (29:13):
Yeah, and they're and their thirty seconds. One guy can't
do it. You need linebackers too, you know, you need
some other guy. One guy just can't do it by hisself.
Speaker 13 (29:24):
He may he may control the A gap, but there's
another A gap over there on the other side.
Speaker 8 (29:28):
There's two B gaps they can run too.
Speaker 13 (29:30):
And the last time I checked, you better have some linebackers.
Speaker 8 (29:32):
They can step up in there and play those gaps.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Is anybody around you there at the mother Ship? Are
you in a room by yourself?
Speaker 8 (29:38):
No, I'm over here. I'm over here in the radio row.
You know I slipped over here.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Yeah. I didn't know if people wanted to know who
you were talking to.
Speaker 8 (29:48):
But they know I told them who else I'm going.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Okay, tell everybody there, I said alone, right, I will.
Speaker 8 (29:54):
I will.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Great to talk to you, buddy, Thank you, Thank you,
my friend.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Fox Sports right has the best sports talk lineup in
the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio
dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to
listen live.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Tom Berducci, sports illustrated senior baseball writer, New York Times
bestselling author, co host of the Book of Joe podcasts
with Joe Madden, did a great job at the World Series. Tom,
If I said what do you think is going to
happen in Game seven? Before Game seven unfolded, you would
have said, what.
Speaker 15 (30:31):
I liked Toronto going into that game because they were
a home But I did not expect that Yesternobi Yamamoto
was going to pitch in that game at all.
Speaker 16 (30:41):
I really didn't.
Speaker 15 (30:42):
It wasn't on my Bengo card that after pitching Game
six he'd come back the next day.
Speaker 16 (30:47):
That was a difference maker.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
What do you think was the turning point in the game.
Speaker 15 (30:53):
Well, the home run by Miggi Rojas, right, I mean
the Jays are two outs away from the first World
Series in thirty two years. Your closer on the mound.
It's a three to two count, number nine hitter. I
understand you can't walk him because Otani is on deck.
He's the go ahead run, right, so you have to
throw a strike. What I didn't like was throwing a slider.
(31:13):
When you have to throw a strike, that's a strike
to strike pitch.
Speaker 16 (31:17):
I'd rather just throw a fastball challenge him. And it
was a hanger.
Speaker 15 (31:22):
I mean, it's a home run that you didn't see coming,
kind of like that Roger Davis home run in sixteen.
This happened to be two outs from the end of
the game. So that was the turning point. And after that,
I just thought the air came out of the building.
It was gonna be tough to beat the Dodgers at
that point, giving up such a renewed life right there.
But listen, that was a stunning as stunning of a
(31:44):
home run as I've seen in the World Series.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Mickey Rojas, you bring up a great point because you
got Otani on deck and you're just kind of thinking,
I just got to get through this. He's the ninth hitter.
Let me just get through this so I don't have
to worry, you know, about tany with anybody on. And
I mean, there were so many little moments here, but
that's what makes up these great games. It's small moments
(32:08):
that can lead to big moments as well. And that's
what was fascinating about this is both teams had those moments.
You either capitalized or you didn't.
Speaker 15 (32:19):
Totally, Dan, I think that's what made this series and
especially this game stand apart. It's been at a lot
of great games obviously, but you can go back, like
watching a great movie, right, you go back and watch
it a second, third, fourth time. It never gets old
because you go back and you rEFInd something like, oh,
I forgot about that point or that line in this movie.
(32:40):
How about Andy Piez going into the game, Dan, I'm
sitting there next to the Dodgers dugout. Andy Piez was
as involved in the game as I was. He's sitting
there with his hoodie on, just watching the game, and
all of a sudden, Danny Leeman, the bench coach, runs
down there and says, get in there. This is bases
loaded ninth, I think, and he just ripped off his hood.
(33:01):
He hadn't warned up at all, runs out the center field,
and two batters later, there he is playing Superman, jumping
over keyk Hernandez to literally save the game.
Speaker 12 (33:10):
Right.
Speaker 15 (33:10):
That looked, for all intents and purposes like Ernie Clement
was going to be the World Series MVP, the Jays
were going to be World champions, and he flies out
of nowhere.
Speaker 16 (33:19):
I mean, he must have ran more than one hundred
feet to get that ball.
Speaker 15 (33:22):
That was one of the great World Series catches of
all time because of what was on the line.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
But was it Okay, we know the result, but was
it a smart play by him in the moment?
Speaker 15 (33:34):
You know, they tell you it's the centerfielder, go get
what you can get, right, So I think it was
in the moment because he was fearless going after that ball.
Speaker 16 (33:43):
I'm not sure that Key.
Speaker 15 (33:44):
K would have caught it over the shoulder with his
face about five feet from the wall at that point,
so I think it was a play that had to
be made. There was a risk obviously they collide and
the ball falls.
Speaker 16 (33:55):
I mean, what a way that would have been to
lose the World Series.
Speaker 15 (33:57):
But I love the aggressive from that kid, he didn't
hit it all in the postseason.
Speaker 16 (34:03):
He's got to play. He'll remember forever.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Yeah, I agree with you centerfield. You have control, you
have license to go after because of the angle. And
that's why I thought, Okay, you may bowl over your teammate,
but you have a better angle than he does. And
he ended up holding on to it. One thing that
I thought was so small, Well, maybe it wasn't touched
(34:26):
on as much that you have that you know, I kft,
he's not off third base, Tom and on contact I'm going.
I just didn't know why he didn't have a little
bit more of a lead, knowing if it's a ground ball,
you're going. And I thought that it became it shouldn't
have been close at home. I thought that he would
(34:47):
have been down the line a little bit.
Speaker 15 (34:49):
Yeah, it's a great point, and in real time I
had the same reaction. But looking at it again, and
a lot of teams teach this in that situation, shorter
lead it because the worst thing that can happen is
what a line drive and you get doubled up and
the game's over. So there's more of the emphasis on
a better secondary than getting the longer primary lead. At
(35:10):
third base. He's a smart baseball player. I am not
going to question him on that. I think he was.
Speaker 16 (35:16):
We already saw a line drive.
Speaker 15 (35:18):
To Muncie in that game. I don't know how he
caught other than self defense. You cannot get doubled up
at third base. I think that's the right way to go.
You can argue he could have been a little more aggressive,
but on this case, I'll air on the side of
IKF being a smart ball player making the right call.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Was that the greatest game that you've ever been a
part of.
Speaker 15 (35:38):
I have a hard time putting it up above Game
seven of twenty sixteen. You know, I still go back
to that seventeen minute rain delay. That just that pregnant
pause in the game. You're like, the game is tied
in the World Series, and we're gonna stop and have
a seventeen minute timeout with two teams that had won forever.
And that was another game, by the way, that had
(35:59):
so many twists and turns. It wasn't just the end,
it was all the pivot points in the course of
the game where history was changing minute by minute.
Speaker 16 (36:07):
This is right up there, though, because.
Speaker 15 (36:08):
Again I think there was so much to absorb in
this game, Dan, actually the whole series where I don't
know how many times you thought this, like the Dodgers
are going to win the World Series, the Ja's are.
Speaker 16 (36:18):
Gonna win the World Series, right, Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 15 (36:21):
You couldn't have written any better as far as Cliffhangers.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Go, and Dave Roberts had one of the great late
inning managerial games in the history of the sport. Everything
he did worked totally, I thought all throughout. I mean,
when you think about will Smith, you know he moved
will Smith up to the two hole because the Jays kept.
Speaker 15 (36:44):
Walking show Hey Otani and MOOKI wasn't swinging a hot
bat and Will Smith was, so I think it was
Game five he moved will Smith up to number two
where he just doesn't hit, But it was because he
was the hotter bat. He's the one who HiT's the
home run, two outs, bases empty in the eleventh, getting
Mookie down in the order for Game six, he said,
I want him in an RBI spot. Maybe that'll help
(37:05):
him relax to swing for a base hit. He had
that huge two strike, two run, two out hit. I
really won the game for him in six, So you're right,
the defense there Miggy. I mean just the idea that
you know he told us before Game five, Before Game six,
he put Miguel Rojas in the game, who had had
a base hit for a month, literally thirty one days
(37:26):
since he had a base hit. Put him in the
game because, as he told us, he's such a glue guy.
Speaker 16 (37:31):
I mean so much to this team.
Speaker 15 (37:33):
I couldn't see going home losing the World Series without
giving him a chance to play. I had nothing to
do with the analytics or numbers. It's a look in
the eye that says, if I'm going down, I'm going
down with this guy. And not just the home run,
but how about his defensive plays. I mean the pick
he made on Key K's double play in Game six
to end the game.
Speaker 16 (37:52):
Wow, that was a great play.
Speaker 15 (37:54):
And then of course you mentioned the play thrown out
ikf at the plate, so you're right. I mean, Dave
Roberts made some you know, I call them blink moments
there and the course of a game where you have
to make a quick decision, and it seemed like, if
not all of them, most of them certainly worked out
in his favor.
Speaker 16 (38:10):
I thought he had a great series.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Tom Bernucci Sports illustrated senior baseball writer Fox Sports on
MLB Otani's legacy. I don't know. Did he get a
boost here in the last month.
Speaker 12 (38:24):
Uh?
Speaker 16 (38:24):
Yeah, I mean greatest game ever, you know, ten.
Speaker 15 (38:27):
Strikeout game with three home runs. Yeah, I mean the
eighteen in game, nine times on base.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Greatest World Series game of all time turned in by one.
Speaker 15 (38:40):
Point on base. That's gonna be tough to be. Two
home runs, four extra base hits for the first time
in one hundred and eight years in the World Series. Yeah,
I mean, and then he goes out and pitches the
next day seventeen hours later.
Speaker 16 (38:54):
Now I thought he was gassed. I mean, I really think.
Speaker 15 (38:58):
There's a point where even uh is showing E on
the on the on the gas tank.
Speaker 16 (39:04):
But uh, he pitched it as well as he could.
Speaker 15 (39:08):
But I think his legacy Dan is cemented again by
he's a winning ballplayer. You know, he joins the Dodgers
and they've won two World Championships since he got to
pitch in the World Series for the first time. This
was the first time we saw a show. Hey, you know,
pitching and hitting in a World Series. And last year
he had the shoulder issue early against the Yankees. He
(39:29):
was certainly compromised there. But yeah, he keeps going further
and further away from anybody else who ever played the game.
It's it's not sacrilegious to say this is the best
baseball player who has ever played.
Speaker 16 (39:43):
This game, and he keeps making it more certain.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
If Babe Ruth knew that o'twani would do this later on,
would Babe have stayed a pitcher and a hitter.
Speaker 15 (39:56):
That is a great question, because you just reminded me
of this base dinner in New York years ago. It
was after Katseko goes forty forty and Mickey Mantle was
at the dinner and it was late in the night,
so you can imagine how Mickey was keeping himself hydrated.
So after Katsiko got the award, Mickey actually wanted to
go back up to the podium and he said, listen,
(40:17):
if you guys, if I knew you guy makes such
a big deal out of forty forty, I'd have done
it like five times. But you know, going back to
the Babe, you know, he actually said he really never
had two full seasons like start to finish a two
way play. And he actually said after the second one
it's just too hard, you know. I think his heart's
(40:39):
based on what I've read, was really into hitting and
that's what that was his love where I think show
has DNA begins with pitching, and baby Bruce said, it's
just too hard.
Speaker 16 (40:47):
Physically to keep up.
Speaker 15 (40:49):
I want to hit, and you know, I don't want
to feel, you know, sore, armed or whatever play in
the outfield because there was no DHU, so I don't
think the babe would do it. The question is how
long can show Hey do this right? And watching the
physical wear and tear on him, especially after that eighteen
in the game, Dan, I started to think we better
enjoy this because I don't think it came met lasts
(41:10):
much longer. But then I asked Dave Roberts and he said,
I don't see any reason why he can't keep doing
this two way pitching and hitting it twenty twenty five
starts a.
Speaker 16 (41:20):
Year for years and years and years. This guy is
just amazing.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
And Vlad Guerrero, you know what, an incredible series and
a losing effort, and you saw how emotional he was
after the game. He was in tears. He did everything,
just about everything possible to win a World.
Speaker 15 (41:40):
Series I'm glad you brought him up, Dan, because we
knew he was a great hitter.
Speaker 16 (41:44):
I think this whole postseason, especially.
Speaker 15 (41:47):
The World Series, pointed out what a great baseball player
this guy is. I mean, I remember a game when
Max Schurzer was pitching in Seattle in the ALCS, and
he's got a problem tipping his pitches. Was the one
of the first inning who stopped him and went to
the mound and say, hey, watch your hands. Here runners
are picking it up. There was a throw at third
(42:08):
base Barger threw the runner out at third instead of
throwing home. It was Glad who told him to throw
it to third, not to home. The defensive plays I
counted three great ones he made just in Game seven.
Speaker 16 (42:20):
And you're right.
Speaker 15 (42:21):
You saw the emotion on his face, how much this
meant to him, The swings he put on the baseball, Dan,
if you go back and look at it, this wasn't
the guy trying to.
Speaker 16 (42:30):
Hit home runs.
Speaker 15 (42:31):
This was a guy doing whatever he could to get
on base, shortening up sometimes even early in counts, sitting
on pitches.
Speaker 16 (42:38):
I was blown away by Vlad and his all around game.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
Great stuff. Are you now off? You're not doing anything.
Speaker 15 (42:49):
I wish I could say that, but no, it's starting
at MLB Network. We start Awards week next week, start
aligning up the finalists for the awards tonight on it
will be network. Of course, everybody wants to wait for
the al NBP vote. That's going to be a cliffhanger
Judge and Raleigh. So I'm not getting on a plane.
Speaker 16 (43:09):
So that's big.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
Thanks again, Tom, Hey, my pleasure. All right, that's Tom Berducci.
Hosts And Creators
Todd "Fritzy" Fritz
Dan Patrick
Patrick "Seton" O'Connor
Paul Pabst
Marvin Prince
Popular Podcasts
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!