December 5, 2025 • 44 mins
DP and the Danettes recap the Lions' victory over the Cowboys on TNF. They also discuss LeBron James' historic double-digit scoring record coming to an end last night. NFL/college football analyst Ross Tucker praises smart QBs over reckless ones and is intrigued by Russell Wilson's TV debut this weekend.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
We did it. We made it to a Friday.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
It's a meat Friday at that And in honor of
Marvin who loves ham smoked, honey glazed ham, today potato
lotkas heck yeah, let's go potato pancakes that I think
are big during Hanukkah?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Is that right to us?
Speaker 4 (00:21):
That is right? With a little apple sauce or sour cream?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Love it alrighty?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
And PAULI gets New England clam shout ouh, oh wow,
thank you? Who has it better than we do? No,
we'll talk to our good buddy Ross Tucker. He was
on the radio call last night as the Lions with
a big win over the Cowboys, and they're both still
fascinating stories. When you think about where the Cowboys are
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and maybe they play spoiler, I think their chances of
making the playoffs are now reduced to seven percent according
to the NFL. The Lions playoff probability increased to fifty
four percent. But let's handicap the Cowboys now because they
have to win out and even if they went out,
that's probably not going to be enough. They got the vikings,
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they got the Chargers Commanders and they got the Giants.
They can win all of those games, especially if you're
hosting the Chargers at the Giants, you got the Vikings.
So it's not exactly Murderer's row here, but you got
to win out and even ten wins probably not going
to be enough. And you wonder if that tie that
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they had is going to come back to haunt them.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Not great and they could have lost that game.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
But if you win that game, now, all of a sudden,
your probability goes up a little bit more than seven percent.
But we were praising that defense. Defense stopped the run,
but it didn't stop the pass as Jared Goff threw
for over three hundred yards. Aman Ross Saint Brown playing
was big. I thought they were going to sit him
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and then give him ten days to rest, but he
came back and that was one of those emotional boosts
having him out there. Jamier Gibbs once again, all he
does is score touchdowns and that's a big, big win
for the Lions in a very competitive and NFC North
Seaton will do the honors of the poll question from
the first hour of the program, what are you thinking? Yeah,
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Paul sent in a bunch of them here. We can
start with a pretty easy one. Who do you pick
to win the NFC today? Okay, I keep shifting a
little bit. Yeah, I don't know if there's I don't
think there's a great team in the NFL. But there's
a lot of traffic with the NFC because I can
look at Seattle in the Rams and the Niners. There's
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no better division than that. The Chiefs are still dangerous. Chargers.
I'm just not sure about certainly with the injury with
Justin Herbert, and then you got Denver, which is a
great defensive team, but you know you're gonna have to
outscore somebody once you get to the postseason. But yeah,
you're trying to handicap this. I just don't know if
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there's a great team right now, you know. I mean
I still have the Lions and the Chiefs, and both
of those may not make the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Yes, right, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
When you look at the NFC West, it's interesting because
there's a lot of good records there, but not a
lot of teams that scare you. You know, I don't know.
I mean, the Rams are great, but I don't know
that the forty nine Ers make me nervous. I don't
really know that the Seahawks make me nervous either.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
The Seahawks would make me nervous if you're playing in Seattle.
The Rams would make me nervous no matter where they go.
I do think they're a really good team. Trying to
think of anybody else. Are you sold on the Bears?
Are you sold on the Packers? Are you sold on
the Lions?
Speaker 6 (03:38):
Yes, Pauling, it does feel like the Seahawks are playing great,
but the Sam Darnald I believe in them feel from
last year. And it's not fair because you know him,
first team all Sam Darnald, but nationally he's playing great.
They're playing great, but it's like, well he's great in
the regular season, what will he be in January? And
that kind of just overlaps their whole team.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Yeah, I mean the Bills, I don't think they're great.
I think they can play really well. Buccaneers, Seahawks, Jags, Colts.
I don't think anybody believes in either one of those
two teams. There's some bad games coming up this weekend,
some bad matchups because you got but you know, the
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Colts and Jags is interesting, but then you got Dolphins, Jets, Titans, Browns, Commanders, Vikings,
Bengals at the Bills.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Will be interesting.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Let's see what else Rams, Cardinals, Bears, Packers is good
and Texans and the Chiefs. That's good as well. Something
interesting happened yesterday. Now I thought the Lions were going
to win, but the line was three, so the Cowboys
were getting three, and I thought okay, And then it
went up to three and a half and I thought, okay,
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what changed here? And I don't know if that's you know,
I'm on Ross, Saint Brown coming back, or when somebody
got word of that, but all of a sudden it
went up to three and a half. And if you're
a gambler or a reform gambler, then you're always looking
for those kind of last minute changes in the point spread.
But Dallas had their opportunities, but that defense was not
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what we thought they were going to be. You know,
once again, you can stop the run, but if you
have some kind of pass rush, you know, then you
can at least mitigate the damage that the offense is
going to do passing wise. And Jared Goff throws for
three hundred yards, if he's thrown for three hundred yards
you're going to lose.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
But the offense is there. We know that.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
It's just the defense has to be. You have to
be more than adequate now. And it cost them last
night because if they win last night, you may eliminate
the Lions and you're going to increase your chances of
still staying in the playoff picture.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
What other poll questions do we have?
Speaker 5 (06:02):
Let's see, would you rather your team have the best
wide receiver in the league or the best kicker?
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Okay, PAULI wrote this because you have the Cowboys situation
and you have the Brandon Aubrey who pretty much I'm
guessing anything inside seventy is in his range. I mean
it's he's a restricted free agent. He's making a million dollars.
I think he's going to be up there in the
Harrison Butker salary neighborhood of around five million dollars. As
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far as Cedee Lamb or George Pickens, well, I'd rather
have a great kicker.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
I don't want.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
I don't want George Pickens now Ceedee Lamb. I would
take Ceede Lamb. George Pickens. I need to see another year.
I do, and you know he's great He's been great,
but he had a couple of moments there last night
that made me just a little bit nervous. Nervous there,
I probably franchised him. I don't know if I want
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to be giving him thirty million dollars a year, but
I would take I mean, Brandon Aubrey, there's nobody like
him in the NFL. There are receivers like George Pickens
in the NFL. Brandon Aubrey to me is, you know
that's money from seventy yards in and plus you get
these new kickoffs. Now, if you get the ball through
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the thirty five, you get two first downs. Aubrey's in
field goal range, Yes, Paulie.
Speaker 6 (07:30):
Brandon Aubrey's becoming automatic from plus sixty plus. There have
been fifteen field goals from sixty three or more in
NFL history, the entire history of the league. He's got
three of them. And the one he had last night
had another five yards behind it.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
Yeah, And he's had that happen a couple times too, actually,
where he's he's put one through and they're like, dang man,
that was a long ass field goal and it had
another five yards to go.
Speaker 6 (07:54):
Easy.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Yeah, Pauli in the past.
Speaker 6 (07:58):
Forty years before like Brandon Uberty joined the league, kickers
were six for eighty two from sixty plus. He's six
for nine from sixty plus in his career.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
That's silly.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
The Cowboys are allowing just under thirty points per game,
so they're on pace still. You know how bad they
were at the beginning of the year. They're going to
probably get to where the Cowboys were the first year
they came into the league nineteen sixty, when they allowed
just over or just under thirty one points per game.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Who cow stand of the day?
Speaker 7 (08:33):
Stand of the day?
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Stand outa day, scant outa day.
Speaker 6 (08:38):
This is the stule of the day.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Yachi by Panini America. And the Lions have been really
good at blowing people out since the start of last season.
They have fourteen wins by double digits. That's the most
in the NFL. All right, we'll get to phone calls.
Tyler sitting by, take your calls there. We got college
football coming up this weekend. Penn State might be zeroing
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in on their head coach Matt Campbell at Iowa State.
Maybe this was the plan all along. Maybe this is
what they were talking about. And I mentioned this yesterday
that they have an interim head coach, and I was
told last night they told the interim head coach, Hey,
you're free to around, move about the cabin. Penn State
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has now apparently authorized Terry Smith to interview for other jobs,
so he's going to be in the mix for some
of the backfill openings, and that means Michigan Penn State
does not have a head coach. If he's going to
be looking at another job, and maybe it's Matt Campbell,
it certainly sounds like they have put all their efforts
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and money into bringing him enticing now he's been up
for other jobs, big jobs in college football and also
the NFL. He's an Ohio guy. He's a massline Ohio guy,
big football powerhouse up there towards Cleveland, and maybe, just
maybe Penn State will find their head coach.
Speaker 8 (10:10):
Yes, Tom, nothing makes you feel more loved and wanted then,
you know, feel free to look at the other opportunities.
Speaker 6 (10:14):
That's good with us.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Yeah, and this guy's probably Terry Smith going, hey, I'm
the head coach at Penn State. Not so fast, you know,
not so fast. You're free to talk to anybody you
want to. Uhuh.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
We actually encourage you.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Yeah, that leads me to believe that Penn State is
going to zero win and get Matt Campbell because I
if not, I would not be telling the interim head coach. Okay,
feel free go flirt with whoever you want to. All right,
let's see Kevin in Austin. Hi, Kevin, lead us off.
What's on your mind?
Speaker 9 (10:50):
Hey, DP, I've got three things for you. One, I
want to say thanks for the calendar. I just got
it in the mail, signed by all five you guys
some really horrifying months with Scritzy. Can't hang Thatt in
the office. Then I want to go over my Cowboys
just real quick. You know, you see what a number
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one receiver looks like with Monros Saint Brown on one
leg versus what George Merton Hanks pickings with a ski
mask last night and his effort. And then lastly, we
are coming up on a week out from Honka, and
I want to know if Todd is ready with the
sports names?
Speaker 8 (11:33):
Oh Todd Monica sports names. Yeah, I think we did
that a while back. We can revisit that and say
if we can come up with some new ones.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Yeah, that's when I came up with Hankah Sorenstain. Yeah,
that was an excellent Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
I thought that was a walk off. Yeah, I was
a one and Donner there. Thanks for the phone call, Kevin. Yes,
Paul drado Bly the former defensive back, Yeah, dre Blie.
This in from Tom Pelsero from NFL Network. The defensive
back Brian Branch of the Lions feared to have suffered
an achilles injury last night, and Branch will have further
(12:06):
tests this morning. But that's according to Tom Peloicera. Nothing
confirmed there, but feared to have suffered an achilles injury.
Buddha in San Francisco, Good morning, Buddha, what's on your mind?
Speaker 10 (12:20):
No, no, buddy, every day the Super Bowl boys, let's go,
Dan looking shark there from the main Cave. And Dan,
if I'm Jerry Jones, I'm paying Brandon Aubrey right now,
let's go like, don't mess around. I mean, I'm sure,
I'm sure he'll mess it up somehow and sign Harrison
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Bucker for some reason. But when I actually root for
the Cowboys, then that's when they lose. And so as
my boy and Gus in La says, when the Cowboys lose,
America wins and then I wanted to fall in and
just say I am so tired of ever crying. Everyone's
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crying already about their teams not making the college football playoffs.
I mean, it's like it's it's terrible. It's like everybody's
already like saying like they're getting jobbed or outed, and
it's just like the whole notion of everyone not making
their fan base is not making the college ball playoffs,
it's killing me.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Smalls man, thank you buddha. Uh.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
There is an oh woe is me? A couple of
Notre Dame friends and they're like, give me some positive
news here, and I said, I think it's gonna be
tough sledding here, but I mean they may squeak in,
but it's this isn't a foregone conclusion.
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Speaker 3 (14:24):
Detroit now eight and five, Dallas is six and six
and one pole question for hour two is going to
be what seek no Connor?
Speaker 7 (14:33):
Well, we got up there for hour one?
Speaker 5 (14:34):
Would you rather your team have a great kicker or
a great wide receiver? Wide receiver is really running away
with that one. All right, they have about seventy two
percent of that vote current. All right, we have a
snarky one here also from Paul who had the worst
week Penn State football or other.
Speaker 6 (14:53):
I wasn't trying to be mean. I was trying to
populate the pole question, and I couldn't think of anyone
who's close player team concept.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Who had a bad week aside from Penn State. Is
there anybody else that dude factor in?
Speaker 13 (15:09):
Yes, Marvin lane Kiffin, not money wise, but just perception wise.
Speaker 7 (15:14):
Yeah, I think he had a bad week.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
I do.
Speaker 7 (15:17):
I think lane Kiffin had a bad week.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
Okay, even though I mean he's got an awesome job
and a gajillion dollars.
Speaker 7 (15:25):
He had a bad week.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Well I think what's heard him is now there's a
lot of things. But it was messy. This wasn't an
amicable parting. This was a messy divorce there and then
all of a sudden, we're hearing from Lane and he
giving his side of the story and he wanted to coach,
and everybody wants me to coach. But then we find
out not everybody in his locker room wanted him to coach.
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Then all of a sudden, there's a story that somebody
tried to run him off the road as he was
getting ready to go to the airport to go to LSU.
The state troopers in Mississippi they refuted that. So it
just feels like he's added to this instead of just
taking the job. You're gonna take some hits and then
you're gonna move on because somebody else is going to
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do this, probably next year of.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
The year after.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
But it just felt like he kept adding fuel to
the fire instead of trying to put it out and
didn't do a good job at all. You know, his
PR team is not as good as his old miss
football team. They took the loss this past week yet, Paul.
Speaker 6 (16:29):
Yeah, it does feel I agree with you guys. He
took an up and down career and it really settled
it old Miss, Like you said that documentary, he seemed
to have everything going well, family life, and at the
point where he's a guy you root for, you root
it for Old Miss. You rooted for him, and he
was a great guest on shows. He'd kind of hit
his stride and then upheaval. Now people will root it
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a little bit nationally not locally against LSU, kind of
like what happened to Brian Kelly when he went to LGU.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Yeah, but you know what Brian Kelly didn't bother me
is much because I think Notre Dame wanted to move
on from Brian Kelly and all indications where Marcus Freeman
was that guy, and it felt like it was a
addition by subtraction. Hey, we got rid of this guy.
He's a great coach, but he doesn't fit with what
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we're trying to do at Notre Dame. And Marcus Freeman
has come in and nobody has said anything about what
Brian Kelly did to Notre Dame. They're like, oh, that's right,
he did leave them you know, and these coaches are like, yeah,
I'm gonna And Brian Kelly did that before elsewhere in
his career, where you're like, I got a ball game
coming up.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Yeah, well I'm not coaching, see you later, yes.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
Yeah, But Brian Kelly left Notre Dame, but he was
there for a long time. Yeah, that like window had closed.
I think it seemed pretty clear that his time there
was was pretty much wrapped up, you know.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
But that's the kind of place where you go and
you stay and you retire. It feels like it's Notre Dame. Yeah, Paul,
I totally agree. I'm going back to twenty twenty one.
Brian Kelly was eleven and one when he left Notre Dame.
They weren't like, not even a four loss season. They
had a one loss season. His last name's Kelly, for
god's sake, He's got the Notre Dame job. You have
more control over your franchise, whatever you want to call it,
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than any coach in America. You don't have to answer
to any conference presidents.
Speaker 6 (18:18):
Blah blah blah. All you got to do is recruit
and win, and they'll get you in the playoffs. As
you could see.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Yeah, but he had gotten to the point and I
think Notre Dame is built now to be a big
ten sec kind of team, physical, run the football. But
they've done that kind of in the image of Marcus Freeman,
not Brian Kelly. Brian Kelly was an offensive minded head coach.
Marcus Freeman played defense, played defense in college and was
their defensive coordinator. But yeah, I think there's certain And
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what Kiffin had been ole Miss six years?
Speaker 2 (18:50):
And how long was Brian at Notre Dame? Was Brian
at Notre Dame ten years?
Speaker 6 (18:54):
Yeah, eleven years?
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Eleven years? Okay, Yeah, I think Notre Dame was like, uh,
you want to go?
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Okay, because I don't know if there was this you know,
pushback of what's it going to take to keep you
When you say I can't win a national title there,
but I can win a national title at LSU, That's
when I say you need help pack in your backs.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 13 (19:16):
Another nominee for worst Week, Jackson Dart. Yeah, did not
have a good week. Okay, took some big kids and
then didn't shy away from like, you know, I'm going
to take the big hits because I play football.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Well, we've had some people on the show this week
who have sided with him, like, yeah, I love that,
you know. Steve Young was saying, man, you love to
fire up your team. And I'll ask Ross Tucker this.
I want my quarterbacks smart. You have to be tough
to play the position, but I want you to be
smart when you play the position because if you pick
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your spots. If that was I'm going to run one
more yard and try to run over this defensive back
and we're going to go to the super I get it.
But this wasn't for a first down. You got two
wins in your concussion protocol the two previous week.
Speaker 7 (20:10):
What do you think?
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Yeah, Paul, it.
Speaker 6 (20:13):
Goes back to that Garoppolo run six or seven years
ago against Kansas City.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
It was week three.
Speaker 6 (20:19):
He was not trying to He lowered his shoulder into
the defensive back. He tore his own knee up, not
his shoulder, his head. He tore up his own knee
cross the season.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Yeap, all right?
Speaker 3 (20:30):
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by Christmas. So Ross Tucker will join us. Coming up
this uh what next fifteen minutes or so, we'll get
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to your phone calls. Got our poll question here. I
saw where Russell Wilson Junior the third is joining CBS
this week they have a bye the Giants have a
bye week, and I guess he's going to be in studio.
That would make sense. Can't imagine him out doing a game,
but Russ is going to be in studio for CBS.
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Feels like this is what he is ready to transition to. Yes,
Marvin so dwarves out of my mouth.
Speaker 13 (21:19):
This feels like a Tiki Barber or Michael Strahan move
because unfortunately Michael Strahan has the career Teky Barbara thought
he was gonna have sorry, go.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Ahead, Yeah, I just.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
This is going to be difficult, I think for Russ
to step out of the almost robotic you know, hey,
here's my comments and you know, mister positivity, and now
you've got to go in and have an opinion on
you know, players and teams, and is he willing to
do that? That's the hardest part for all of these
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analysts former players who become an analyst, what are you
going to say? And it's not like you have to
be really critical as much as you you have to
be analytical. And there's a difference. You can do your
job by pointing out something and not being mean spirited.
And I remember when Troy Aikman was just starting and
I talked to him in Saint Louis. We're at a
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Joe Buck golf tournament, and I said, are you ready?
You know for this world. You know that you're going
to be critiquing. He said, well, I'm not going to
be mean spirited. As much as my job is to
analyze something. It's not to be critical of somebody. It's
to be analytical of somebody. And it was a great answer.
It's I'm not going to go out of my way,
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but we as viewers, we want you to be honest
when you say something. You know it's not boy'd like
to have that one back after somebody throws a pick six,
it's boy, what that was a terrible throw? Or what
are you thinking in a situation like that? Instead of boy,
he would like to have that one back. I haven't
met a quarterback who hasn't had a pass where it
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got picked off, where he didn't want to have that back.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
I'm happy with and I stepped into it.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
It's nice, spiral, tight, felt.
Speaker 7 (23:02):
Good leave in my hand. I don't know what happened
after that.
Speaker 6 (23:05):
What if Russell Wilson gets in the studio this weekend
and it's like a body switching movie and he just
starts lighting people up and he's mean spirited like all
the last ten years of frustration comedy, Like that guy sucks,
he shouldn't be in the league. Cut him.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Well.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
The problem is that all the guys who didn't like
him in Seattle don't play anymore, so he can't be
ripping those guys.
Speaker 7 (23:24):
Yes, yeah, sometimes I.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
Think that we, like the public, go a little crazy.
Speaker 7 (23:28):
Over like, well, this guy's got to have opinions, so
we better what.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
I don't see JJ Watt throwing haymakers every Sunday where he's.
Speaker 7 (23:35):
Like this guy sucks, that guy's great, Like he just
kind of breaks down the game and then that's it.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
You know.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
I don't see any reason why Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson
is a good looking guy. He looks good on camera.
He can articulate a thought really really well. You know,
he could break down games. I don't know why he wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Do very well.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
I gotta see how he breaks down a game. I mean,
we're still slicing and dicing Tom Brady because he seemed
a little robotic when he first started there and kind
of relaxing a little bit and talking to the boys,
you know, talking to your friends, being analytical but not
being critical. And I think there's a fine line in
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doing that, and it's hard to do, uh guest hut.
Speaker 8 (24:18):
The scene's point, Matt Ryan is in one they say,
whoa shots fired?
Speaker 1 (24:21):
You at mets it?
Speaker 7 (24:23):
Ye, hear what he just said. He just tore them
into one.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
But I would always push Rodney Harrison and Tony Dungee
to what do you say, Like, don't say something that's obvious,
tell me something that we don't know, we didn't see,
and it doesn't mean like if somebody quits on a route,
then you say they quit on a route, like I
would have been critical of uh, you know last night
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with uh George Pickens, the pat Pickens. Yeah, I would
have been critical of some of the past routes that
he was running and they were I mean, you're you
have to point those things out just to be fair
to the situation and to the audience.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
You have pauling.
Speaker 6 (25:02):
One thing that disappoints me. You go back to twenty seventeen.
Remember Fox Sports hired j Cutler, the former quarterback, to
be an analyst. He was gonna be like their third
team booth with Kevin Burkhart, and right before the season starts,
there's an injury and he goes to play for the
Mammi Dolphins. He never became a broadcaster. I really wanted
to see a guy like him because I had no
idea what we're gonna get with Jake Culer. I still don't.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
Well, you know they had that reality show, Oh yeah,
his wife, and he was interesting because he just didn't care.
You know, you're thinking, what did you see in him
in the first place? But he'd be like, all right,
well you gonna go hunting. I don't know whatever. I
don't think you can have that approach to doing you know,
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NFL studio shows or game I don't know, what do
you think, I don't know whatever.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
I would have ran it there.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know why they always wanted would
you do.
Speaker 6 (26:02):
Third one. What do you think, Jake, I don't know.
They're gonna have to play.
Speaker 7 (26:04):
We'll figure it out afterwards.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
May run, they may I don't know. Whatever. Uh be great.
Speaker 6 (26:11):
I wish I'm gold a thought.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
I hope Russ has a fun weekend. I hope that
he does it and enjoys it and is able to
kind of give people an.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Appreciation for what he sees as a quarterback. I hope.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
So.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
I just don't know if you can jump out of
your uniform into a suit and then you sit there
and it's a sterile environment. As I tell the analyst
that I work with, you have to manufacture your excitement
when you're in the studio. When you're out of the game,
you don't have to worry about it. You're into it,
you're ready to hit somebody. But when you're in that
studio and it's very antiseptic, and I think that'll be
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that's the challenge. Sometimes you try to get guys fired
up a little bit and it just doesn't come naturally.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Yes, Marvin, is.
Speaker 13 (26:58):
It going to be tough for him for him to
make criticize somebody because he's a current player.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Yeah, I would imagine. I mean, I don't know what
you're going to get out of him. It does give
CBS a little bit of news, and they can, you know,
make a bigger deal out of this and put him
in studio. But I don't I don't know what kind
of position they're going to put Russ in because I
don't know how many times do you hear Like Bill
Cower was very critical of Lane Kiffin. Yeah, he and
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said that on the CBS show. They said it on
our show as well. I don't know how many of
those moments that you get. And this is a college
coach that he was very critical of, not an NFL coach.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
I mean, you pick your moments here, and it's different.
CBS is not a hot take place. You know, when
Rex Ryan goes on the Mothership, his job is to
get you to talk about what he talked about, so
it goes viral, get clicks. That's Ryan Clark. He wants
you to you know, hey, did you hear what he said?
That's that's what their job is. Hendrick Perkins, that's his job.
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I want you to I want you to be talking
about what I'm talking about. I don't know if CBS
goes into it and saying Hey, JB or Bill Cower,
come on, you got to say something here, or Matt Ryan.
I mean, you hope they do, but you know you
you're hiring them because of their personality. I don't think
you can change somebody's personality. But I hope Russ gets
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an opportunity to shine a little bit, because it certainly
feels like that's that's his next spot.
Speaker 8 (28:31):
Yes, Tom, does Russ get a private office on a
separate floor from the rest of the CBA's guys that
have been there for curious.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
Appointed Bronco?
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Would you say that to his face?
Speaker 8 (28:43):
If he probably wouldn't, I would. I would say it
in jes so tongue in cheeks. I wouldn't be upset.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
He would be called in. If he called in right
now and you answered the phone, you feel.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
The pressure now.
Speaker 8 (28:54):
I would have to say, are you get in your
own office this week out at CBS like you did
with the Broncos away from the rest of the tent.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
You would do that?
Speaker 1 (29:00):
I think I would have.
Speaker 8 (29:01):
To, because I gotta put my money where my mouth.
Speaker 6 (29:03):
Is, all right, I gotta put my money where my
mouth is.
Speaker 7 (29:06):
Exactly the same energy it takes that ross setting my money,
just get in my opinion.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
How about we take a break, we will talk to
Ross Tucker. He was on the call last night for
Westwood One. We're back after this on the Dan Patrick Show.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
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Speaker 3 (29:33):
He hosts the Ross Tucker Football Podcast. Follow him on
social media at Ross Tucker NFL. He was in the
booth last night Westwood One with the Cowboys and the Lions,
and then next Sunday, Week fifteen, he's got the Jets
and the Jags. Ross, good to see you again. It
feels like the state of Pennsylvania is the epicenter of
football right now, because you got Steelers, you got the Eagles,
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and then you got penn State. So where do you
want to start?
Speaker 11 (30:00):
Right in the middle of all of it, Dan, I
live in central Pennsylvania, which is interesting because growing up
closer to Philly in Reading, it's one hundred percent Eagles fans.
You go an hour west and now it's probably fifty
to fifty between Eagles and Steelers. You know what I
would say, I'll make a comparison, actually, Dan, between Mike
Tomlin and James Franklin, because I'm hearing the same thing
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from Steelers fans that I was hearing from some of
the Penn State fans. Now it's different, but there's a
lot of crossover between those two fan bases. And you know, Dan,
they just feel ready to move on, and they recognize
that Franklin was a good coach. They recognized that Mike
Tomlin is a good coach. I think in both instances,
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they felt like it was time to move on. Now
we'll see how that works out for Penn State. Obviously
the coaching search has not gone as they wanted it to.
But there were a lot of people that wanted James
Franklin fired. They were sick of losing Ohio State, they
were sick of not winning quote unquote the big one,
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and they were.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
Ready to move on. The same thing with Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 11 (31:13):
You know, Steelers fans have a really high standard, Dan,
really high standard, and they should. You the seventies and
even when Roethlisberger was there, they won a couple of
Super Bowls. They haven't won a playoff game since twenty sixteen,
and I think what frustrates them is it feels like
there's a commitment to just above mediocrity, there's a commitment
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to being good enough, and they're sick of that. I mean,
you talk to Steelers fan, it's kind of wild that
they'd rather the team go three to fourteen and get
a high draft pick and finally try to fix the
quarterback position. I don't think they realize how hard that
is to do. But that's the mindset right now. A
lot of Steelers fans feel the same way a lot
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of Penn State fans did, in which they're ready to
move on. What's unique about that is, just like Franklin,
if the Steelers part ways with Tomlin, he'll have three
or four offers this offseason.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
He'll have three or.
Speaker 11 (32:11):
Four NFL offers of teams that would be thrilled to
get Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Yeah, commitment to mediocrity or just above mediocrey not the
same as commitment to excellence. That you know the Raiders
coined back with Al Davis there. All right, you were
on the call with the game last night. What were
you expecting? I was expecting a lot of points, which
we got. I really thought the Cowboys were gonna win.
I mean I talked about this on the even Money
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betting podcast, and honestly, everyone I spoke to Dan, I mean,
even Lions fans, even people that cover the Lions, everyone
was surprised that the Lions were favored, and not just favored.
They were favored by three, and then yesterday during the game,
you know, before the game, it went up to three
and a half, which is, you know, is a huge difference.
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That made no sense to me from a betting perspective.
I thought taking the Cowboys three and a half made
all the sense in the world because the Lions' weaknesses
right now, or at least perceived weaknesses going into it,
matched up with the cowboys strengths.
Speaker 11 (33:17):
The interior of the offensive line for the Lions has
not been good and they're banged up. The Cowboys might
have the best d tackle rotation in the league right now.
The secondary they put Terry and Arnold their best corner
on ir they have no Kirby Joseph. You're going up
against George Pickens and Seedee Lamb. I think most people
thought the way these two teams were trending that it'd
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be a high scoring game, but that the Cowboys would
probably win out right thirty four to thirty one. If
they lost, it would be by a field goaler. So
I will also say this, I did not think Iman
Ross Saint Brown was gonna play. He didn't practice at
all all week. If they didn't play him last night,
he'd have ten days before the next game. They still
had four more games to go. He made a really,
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really significant difference last night.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
I know everybody's all in on George Pickens. I need
to see a little bit more. I know he can
be unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
I know you know.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
We were ready to christen him the best receiver the
Cowboys had a couple of weeks ago or last week,
but there it felt like there were a couple of
moments where George Pickens didn't do what he was supposed
to do. He still makes spectacular plays, but I just
can't be all in on him. And they're going to
sign him up to a thirty million dollar contract. I'm guessing,
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what do you think?
Speaker 11 (34:36):
Well that that is the I guess thirty million dollar question,
because you know, whatever you want to say about him,
he's incredibly talented.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
He's a top five guy in terms of talent.
Speaker 11 (34:47):
He already had going into last night, the most yards
by any Cowboys receiver ever in the first twelve games
of the season, which is just incredible when you think
about the receivers that they've had. But you know, pick
your word, Dan a erratic behavior, enigmatic. He is a
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very unique person. And when you see the season he's
having and the plays he's making for the Steelers who
drafted him to move on from him with as long
as they held on to Antonio Brown, as long as
they held on to other guys Plexico Buris and san
Antonio Holmes. That says a lot. I would be scared
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to death to give him a long term deal. I'd
rather franchise tag him for a year, see how it goes.
He feels like Dan a guy that you want to
date and not marry.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
And if you do choose to marry him and the
Cowboys might boy, you better that contract.
Speaker 11 (35:47):
You better have a heck of a prenup if you're
gonna marry George Pickens to a long term deal.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
We're talking to Ross Tucker CDs Sports Westwood One, NFL
college football analyst and of course, host of the Ross
Tucker Football podcast. The most must Win Game of the
weekend is which one.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
I think I'm gonna say other than last night, I
think I'm gonna say the Chiefs.
Speaker 11 (36:11):
I think Chiefs Texans feels to me like that's as
close as we get to last night in the sense
of an elimination game. You know, I have no idea
how these people come up with these numbers where you know,
if the Cowboys win, they have a forty two percent
chance to make the playoffs. If they lose, they have
a nine. I mean, they could make up any number
and I would just believe them.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
But those guys, Man, you went to Princeton, you're supposed
to know these things.
Speaker 11 (36:38):
Dan, I intentionally avoided any math classes like that, like
they were the plague. Listen, there's certain classes at a
school like Princeton you take. There's certain classes you don't.
It's like all the guys freshman year that they walk
in they're like, yeah, I'm pre med. They're like, yeah, no,
you're not.
Speaker 4 (36:58):
You won't be Yeah, wait till organic chemistry.
Speaker 11 (37:02):
Just so you know, when you walk into that class,
almost everybody in there is smarter than you.
Speaker 4 (37:08):
And if they're not, it's the hockey guys.
Speaker 11 (37:14):
But no, I mean they come up with these percentages,
and last night was a massive swing, right like thirty
percent either way for the Lions and the Cowboys. That's
the Texans and the Chiefs. And what's interesting about that
one is it reminds me of last night in the
sense that the Chiefs are down both starting offensive tackles.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
Let me tell you who you don't want to play
when that's the case.
Speaker 11 (37:36):
The Houston Texans Danil Hunter, Will Anderson the best edge
duo in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (37:43):
Those are two bad dudes. Mahomes better get rid of
the ball quickly.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
I brought this up a couple of times to a
couple of different guests. Would you rather have a smart
player as a quarterback or a tough player as a quarterback?
Speaker 4 (38:01):
Smart? Yeah, I would say smart.
Speaker 11 (38:03):
I think it's still you know, isn't interesting that in
football with all these big, tough, strong, fast guys, it
really is intelligence. And we're talking football intelligence has nothing
to do with your SAT or whatever, but football intelligence
still is a massive, massive differentiator. You watch what Stafford
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does a lot of these games. It's like he's in
the matrix, you know, he's seeing it the other night.
Joe Burrow, you know, I had a coach saying, we
were talking about this on the Ross Tucker podcast, Joe
Burrow is like a human computer chip. I mean that's
how quickly he probably And I have no idea what
kind of grades he got or whatever.
Speaker 4 (38:43):
But he's the son of a coach and smart.
Speaker 9 (38:47):
Look.
Speaker 11 (38:48):
Of course you want them to be tough, right, but
tough can get you in trouble. You know who's tough.
Jackson Darts tough. Okay, Jackson darts tough. I'm not sure
where he is on the smart scale.
Speaker 4 (38:59):
Okay.
Speaker 11 (39:00):
I don't know how much of that's just youthful bravado
or stupidity.
Speaker 4 (39:03):
I'm not sure where he's at on that scale. I
like tough, I love smart. If I'm trying to win.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Big yeah, And I know Jackson Dart.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
You know his dad was a defensive back and this
is how he plays. And it's not soccer. If that
one yard means we win the super Bowl, then go
get him. But that one yard you're coming out of
concussion protocol. You have two wins on the season, get
out of bounds.
Speaker 11 (39:29):
Well, and Dan, I can remember this. I think it
was the fourth team I played for, was the Patriots,
And when you're in the training room. Okay, I don't
know if they still have it, but when you're in
the training room, they have a big sign above the
entrance and exit door that says the best ability is availability.
Speaker 4 (39:51):
They are very very clear, you're sitting there in the
training room Dan getting treatment looking at that sign.
Speaker 11 (39:58):
I mean, it's it's and maybe they took it down
because Belichick's not there anymore, but there was nothing subtle
about it. It was you're, you're, you know what needs
to be out there every day and you just can't win.
Speaker 4 (40:11):
You know.
Speaker 11 (40:11):
I love Jackson Dart's mentality, I suppose, especially as a
former lineman, but they need you out there. You just
missed two games and then in the first ten snaps
against the Patriots you get master blasted twice.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
I mean, we can't have that.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Is that the official term master blasted?
Speaker 11 (40:32):
I don't know where that came from, but now that
I said it, it sounds way too close to another term,
so I'll probably never ever be saying that again.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
Fritchy is a master blasturbader. Okay, So I think that
is that Mad Max?
Speaker 2 (40:47):
Is that what that movie? I think that's what it's from.
Speaker 4 (40:51):
Is it I don't know, man, you know what when
you you know?
Speaker 2 (40:54):
Is that from Mad Max?
Speaker 6 (40:56):
Yeah, that's from Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
Oh okays.
Speaker 6 (40:59):
The he's the guy who goes into the cage and
takes everybody out when they're they're jousting.
Speaker 11 (41:08):
So now that that's fascinating to me because I've seen
that movie thirty five years ago, So somewhere in my
brain talking about Jackson Dark getting smoked, that came out.
The human brain is a wild thing.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
Dan, Okay, but do linemen think less? Did you think
less of Tom Brady when he would just fall down
and not take a hit, or Peyton Manning or you
know some of these all time grades that didn't take
on contact.
Speaker 4 (41:38):
Not even a little bit. We wanted them to do
that tom Brady.
Speaker 11 (41:44):
All of our lives, our jobs, our success, our playoff money,
it's all in their hands. It's all in tom Brady's hands.
We can't have him getting hurt. I remember a Patriot
assistant coach telling me when I first got there, now
he's he's been a prominent coach since then, NFL head
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coach and the whole deal. And I said, well, what
happened if something happens to Tom and he said, oh, well,
then we just fold up shop and it's over. And
I think he was joking, but because he was showing
me when I first got there all of the things
Dan that Brady did before the snap, which were crazy,
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I had not experienced that with my first three teams.
No one redeclared the mic, changed the protection, changed the
run scheme right before the snap, and then snapped the
ball like Brady did. They were operating at a much
higher level, and you need that guy, you know. Think
about where the Chiefs would be without Mahomes or the
Bills without Josh Allen.
Speaker 4 (42:48):
You can't win with these guys getting hurt.
Speaker 3 (42:53):
Russell Wilson as a guest analyst on CBS, what do
you think?
Speaker 12 (43:00):
You know?
Speaker 11 (43:00):
I think I'm probably as curious as anybody else, you know.
I think we're all It's always interesting when someone that's
been playing this long and we know them in sort
of a player speak, player talk in that role to
see how they transition. Because Russell hasn't been known as
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a guy that gives a colorful quote or gives a
lot of in depth information. He's sort of the prototype
and always has been for how you want your franchise
quarterback to handle those press conferences. You want them to smile,
you want to be courteous, and you want them to
give as little information as possible. So I think it
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puts him in a unique spot on Sunday. Can he
just flip the switch?
Speaker 4 (43:48):
You know?
Speaker 11 (43:48):
Can he Can he flip the switch and actually say
something interesting? Or is he still sort of in I'm
an active player, you know, computer mode where I'm just
gonna say, you know, the generic thing because I don't
want to say anything that gets me in trouble.
Speaker 4 (44:04):
I'm fascinated by it. I think it's great.
Speaker 11 (44:06):
I mean, you know, I might tune in and watch
it to see, you know, what he's like. Of course,
because it's on CBS, and I love CBS, Dan, I
love anything that CBS does.
Speaker 4 (44:15):
I am fully on board with. Of course you do.
Speaker 3 (44:18):
You'll be on the call next Sunday, week fifteen between
the Jets and the Jags on CBS.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
Thank you, Ross, great to talk to.
Speaker 4 (44:25):
You always, Dan, Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
It's Ross Stucker.
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
We did it. We made it to a Friday.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
It's a meat Friday at that And in honor of
Marvin who loves ham smoked, honey glazed ham, today potato
lotkas heck yeah, let's go potato pancakes that I think
are big during Hanukkah?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Is that right to us?
Speaker 4 (00:21):
That is right? With a little apple sauce or sour cream?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Love it alrighty?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
And PAULI gets New England clam shout ouh, oh wow,
thank you? Who has it better than we do? No,
we'll talk to our good buddy Ross Tucker. He was
on the radio call last night as the Lions with
a big win over the Cowboys, and they're both still
fascinating stories. When you think about where the Cowboys are
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and maybe they play spoiler, I think their chances of
making the playoffs are now reduced to seven percent according
to the NFL. The Lions playoff probability increased to fifty
four percent. But let's handicap the Cowboys now because they
have to win out and even if they went out,
that's probably not going to be enough. They got the vikings,
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they got the Chargers Commanders and they got the Giants.
They can win all of those games, especially if you're
hosting the Chargers at the Giants, you got the Vikings.
So it's not exactly Murderer's row here, but you got
to win out and even ten wins probably not going
to be enough. And you wonder if that tie that
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they had is going to come back to haunt them.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Not great and they could have lost that game.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
But if you win that game, now, all of a sudden,
your probability goes up a little bit more than seven percent.
But we were praising that defense. Defense stopped the run,
but it didn't stop the pass as Jared Goff threw
for over three hundred yards. Aman Ross Saint Brown playing
was big. I thought they were going to sit him
(01:52):
and then give him ten days to rest, but he
came back and that was one of those emotional boosts
having him out there. Jamier Gibbs once again, all he
does is score touchdowns and that's a big, big win
for the Lions in a very competitive and NFC North
Seaton will do the honors of the poll question from
the first hour of the program, what are you thinking? Yeah,
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Paul sent in a bunch of them here. We can
start with a pretty easy one. Who do you pick
to win the NFC today? Okay, I keep shifting a
little bit. Yeah, I don't know if there's I don't
think there's a great team in the NFL. But there's
a lot of traffic with the NFC because I can
look at Seattle in the Rams and the Niners. There's
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no better division than that. The Chiefs are still dangerous. Chargers.
I'm just not sure about certainly with the injury with
Justin Herbert, and then you got Denver, which is a
great defensive team, but you know you're gonna have to
outscore somebody once you get to the postseason. But yeah,
you're trying to handicap this. I just don't know if
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there's a great team right now, you know. I mean
I still have the Lions and the Chiefs, and both
of those may not make the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Yes, right, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
When you look at the NFC West, it's interesting because
there's a lot of good records there, but not a
lot of teams that scare you. You know, I don't know.
I mean, the Rams are great, but I don't know
that the forty nine Ers make me nervous. I don't
really know that the Seahawks make me nervous either.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
The Seahawks would make me nervous if you're playing in Seattle.
The Rams would make me nervous no matter where they go.
I do think they're a really good team. Trying to
think of anybody else. Are you sold on the Bears?
Are you sold on the Packers? Are you sold on
the Lions?
Speaker 6 (03:38):
Yes, Pauling, it does feel like the Seahawks are playing great,
but the Sam Darnald I believe in them feel from
last year. And it's not fair because you know him,
first team all Sam Darnald, but nationally he's playing great.
They're playing great, but it's like, well he's great in
the regular season, what will he be in January? And
that kind of just overlaps their whole team.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Yeah, I mean the Bills, I don't think they're great.
I think they can play really well. Buccaneers, Seahawks, Jags, Colts.
I don't think anybody believes in either one of those
two teams. There's some bad games coming up this weekend,
some bad matchups because you got but you know, the
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Colts and Jags is interesting, but then you got Dolphins, Jets, Titans, Browns, Commanders, Vikings,
Bengals at the Bills.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Will be interesting.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Let's see what else Rams, Cardinals, Bears, Packers is good
and Texans and the Chiefs. That's good as well. Something
interesting happened yesterday. Now I thought the Lions were going
to win, but the line was three, so the Cowboys
were getting three, and I thought okay, And then it
went up to three and a half and I thought, okay,
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what changed here? And I don't know if that's you know,
I'm on Ross, Saint Brown coming back, or when somebody
got word of that, but all of a sudden it
went up to three and a half. And if you're
a gambler or a reform gambler, then you're always looking
for those kind of last minute changes in the point spread.
But Dallas had their opportunities, but that defense was not
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what we thought they were going to be. You know,
once again, you can stop the run, but if you
have some kind of pass rush, you know, then you
can at least mitigate the damage that the offense is
going to do passing wise. And Jared Goff throws for
three hundred yards, if he's thrown for three hundred yards
you're going to lose.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
But the offense is there. We know that.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
It's just the defense has to be. You have to
be more than adequate now. And it cost them last
night because if they win last night, you may eliminate
the Lions and you're going to increase your chances of
still staying in the playoff picture.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
What other poll questions do we have?
Speaker 5 (06:02):
Let's see, would you rather your team have the best
wide receiver in the league or the best kicker?
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Okay, PAULI wrote this because you have the Cowboys situation
and you have the Brandon Aubrey who pretty much I'm
guessing anything inside seventy is in his range. I mean
it's he's a restricted free agent. He's making a million dollars.
I think he's going to be up there in the
Harrison Butker salary neighborhood of around five million dollars. As
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far as Cedee Lamb or George Pickens, well, I'd rather
have a great kicker.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
I don't want.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
I don't want George Pickens now Ceedee Lamb. I would
take Ceede Lamb. George Pickens. I need to see another year.
I do, and you know he's great He's been great,
but he had a couple of moments there last night
that made me just a little bit nervous. Nervous there,
I probably franchised him. I don't know if I want
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to be giving him thirty million dollars a year, but
I would take I mean, Brandon Aubrey, there's nobody like
him in the NFL. There are receivers like George Pickens
in the NFL. Brandon Aubrey to me is, you know
that's money from seventy yards in and plus you get
these new kickoffs. Now, if you get the ball through
(07:24):
the thirty five, you get two first downs. Aubrey's in
field goal range, Yes, Paulie.
Speaker 6 (07:30):
Brandon Aubrey's becoming automatic from plus sixty plus. There have
been fifteen field goals from sixty three or more in
NFL history, the entire history of the league. He's got
three of them. And the one he had last night
had another five yards behind it.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
Yeah, And he's had that happen a couple times too, actually,
where he's he's put one through and they're like, dang man,
that was a long ass field goal and it had
another five yards to go.
Speaker 6 (07:54):
Easy.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Yeah, Pauli in the past.
Speaker 6 (07:58):
Forty years before like Brandon Uberty joined the league, kickers
were six for eighty two from sixty plus. He's six
for nine from sixty plus in his career.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
That's silly.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
The Cowboys are allowing just under thirty points per game,
so they're on pace still. You know how bad they
were at the beginning of the year. They're going to
probably get to where the Cowboys were the first year
they came into the league nineteen sixty, when they allowed
just over or just under thirty one points per game.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Who cow stand of the day?
Speaker 7 (08:33):
Stand of the day?
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Stand outa day, scant outa day.
Speaker 6 (08:38):
This is the stule of the day.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Yachi by Panini America. And the Lions have been really
good at blowing people out since the start of last season.
They have fourteen wins by double digits. That's the most
in the NFL. All right, we'll get to phone calls.
Tyler sitting by, take your calls there. We got college
football coming up this weekend. Penn State might be zeroing
(09:04):
in on their head coach Matt Campbell at Iowa State.
Maybe this was the plan all along. Maybe this is
what they were talking about. And I mentioned this yesterday
that they have an interim head coach, and I was
told last night they told the interim head coach, Hey,
you're free to around, move about the cabin. Penn State
(09:28):
has now apparently authorized Terry Smith to interview for other jobs,
so he's going to be in the mix for some
of the backfill openings, and that means Michigan Penn State
does not have a head coach. If he's going to
be looking at another job, and maybe it's Matt Campbell,
it certainly sounds like they have put all their efforts
(09:49):
and money into bringing him enticing now he's been up
for other jobs, big jobs in college football and also
the NFL. He's an Ohio guy. He's a massline Ohio guy,
big football powerhouse up there towards Cleveland, and maybe, just
maybe Penn State will find their head coach.
Speaker 8 (10:10):
Yes, Tom, nothing makes you feel more loved and wanted then,
you know, feel free to look at the other opportunities.
Speaker 6 (10:14):
That's good with us.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Yeah, and this guy's probably Terry Smith going, hey, I'm
the head coach at Penn State. Not so fast, you know,
not so fast. You're free to talk to anybody you
want to. Uhuh.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
We actually encourage you.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Yeah, that leads me to believe that Penn State is
going to zero win and get Matt Campbell because I
if not, I would not be telling the interim head coach. Okay,
feel free go flirt with whoever you want to. All right,
let's see Kevin in Austin. Hi, Kevin, lead us off.
What's on your mind?
Speaker 9 (10:50):
Hey, DP, I've got three things for you. One, I
want to say thanks for the calendar. I just got
it in the mail, signed by all five you guys
some really horrifying months with Scritzy. Can't hang Thatt in
the office. Then I want to go over my Cowboys
just real quick. You know, you see what a number
(11:13):
one receiver looks like with Monros Saint Brown on one
leg versus what George Merton Hanks pickings with a ski
mask last night and his effort. And then lastly, we
are coming up on a week out from Honka, and
I want to know if Todd is ready with the
sports names?
Speaker 8 (11:33):
Oh Todd Monica sports names. Yeah, I think we did
that a while back. We can revisit that and say
if we can come up with some new ones.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Yeah, that's when I came up with Hankah Sorenstain. Yeah,
that was an excellent Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
I thought that was a walk off. Yeah, I was
a one and Donner there. Thanks for the phone call, Kevin. Yes,
Paul drado Bly the former defensive back, Yeah, dre Blie.
This in from Tom Pelsero from NFL Network. The defensive
back Brian Branch of the Lions feared to have suffered
an achilles injury last night, and Branch will have further
(12:06):
tests this morning. But that's according to Tom Peloicera. Nothing
confirmed there, but feared to have suffered an achilles injury.
Buddha in San Francisco, Good morning, Buddha, what's on your mind?
Speaker 10 (12:20):
No, no, buddy, every day the Super Bowl boys, let's go,
Dan looking shark there from the main Cave. And Dan,
if I'm Jerry Jones, I'm paying Brandon Aubrey right now,
let's go like, don't mess around. I mean, I'm sure,
I'm sure he'll mess it up somehow and sign Harrison
(12:41):
Bucker for some reason. But when I actually root for
the Cowboys, then that's when they lose. And so as
my boy and Gus in La says, when the Cowboys lose,
America wins and then I wanted to fall in and
just say I am so tired of ever crying. Everyone's
(13:02):
crying already about their teams not making the college football playoffs.
I mean, it's like it's it's terrible. It's like everybody's
already like saying like they're getting jobbed or outed, and
it's just like the whole notion of everyone not making
their fan base is not making the college ball playoffs,
it's killing me.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Smalls man, thank you buddha. Uh.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
There is an oh woe is me? A couple of
Notre Dame friends and they're like, give me some positive
news here, and I said, I think it's gonna be
tough sledding here, but I mean they may squeak in,
but it's this isn't a foregone conclusion.
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Speaker 3 (14:24):
Detroit now eight and five, Dallas is six and six
and one pole question for hour two is going to
be what seek no Connor?
Speaker 7 (14:33):
Well, we got up there for hour one?
Speaker 5 (14:34):
Would you rather your team have a great kicker or
a great wide receiver? Wide receiver is really running away
with that one. All right, they have about seventy two
percent of that vote current. All right, we have a
snarky one here also from Paul who had the worst
week Penn State football or other.
Speaker 6 (14:53):
I wasn't trying to be mean. I was trying to
populate the pole question, and I couldn't think of anyone
who's close player team concept.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Who had a bad week aside from Penn State. Is
there anybody else that dude factor in?
Speaker 13 (15:09):
Yes, Marvin lane Kiffin, not money wise, but just perception wise.
Speaker 7 (15:14):
Yeah, I think he had a bad week.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
I do.
Speaker 7 (15:17):
I think lane Kiffin had a bad week.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
Okay, even though I mean he's got an awesome job
and a gajillion dollars.
Speaker 7 (15:25):
He had a bad week.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Well I think what's heard him is now there's a
lot of things. But it was messy. This wasn't an
amicable parting. This was a messy divorce there and then
all of a sudden, we're hearing from Lane and he
giving his side of the story and he wanted to coach,
and everybody wants me to coach. But then we find
out not everybody in his locker room wanted him to coach.
(15:49):
Then all of a sudden, there's a story that somebody
tried to run him off the road as he was
getting ready to go to the airport to go to LSU.
The state troopers in Mississippi they refuted that. So it
just feels like he's added to this instead of just
taking the job. You're gonna take some hits and then
you're gonna move on because somebody else is going to
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do this, probably next year of.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
The year after.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
But it just felt like he kept adding fuel to
the fire instead of trying to put it out and
didn't do a good job at all. You know, his
PR team is not as good as his old miss
football team. They took the loss this past week yet, Paul.
Speaker 6 (16:29):
Yeah, it does feel I agree with you guys. He
took an up and down career and it really settled
it old Miss, Like you said that documentary, he seemed
to have everything going well, family life, and at the
point where he's a guy you root for, you root
it for Old Miss. You rooted for him, and he
was a great guest on shows. He'd kind of hit
his stride and then upheaval. Now people will root it
(16:52):
a little bit nationally not locally against LSU, kind of
like what happened to Brian Kelly when he went to LGU.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Yeah, but you know what Brian Kelly didn't bother me
is much because I think Notre Dame wanted to move
on from Brian Kelly and all indications where Marcus Freeman
was that guy, and it felt like it was a
addition by subtraction. Hey, we got rid of this guy.
He's a great coach, but he doesn't fit with what
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we're trying to do at Notre Dame. And Marcus Freeman
has come in and nobody has said anything about what
Brian Kelly did to Notre Dame. They're like, oh, that's right,
he did leave them you know, and these coaches are like, yeah,
I'm gonna And Brian Kelly did that before elsewhere in
his career, where you're like, I got a ball game
coming up.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Yeah, well I'm not coaching, see you later, yes.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
Yeah, But Brian Kelly left Notre Dame, but he was
there for a long time. Yeah, that like window had closed.
I think it seemed pretty clear that his time there
was was pretty much wrapped up, you know.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
But that's the kind of place where you go and
you stay and you retire. It feels like it's Notre Dame. Yeah, Paul,
I totally agree. I'm going back to twenty twenty one.
Brian Kelly was eleven and one when he left Notre Dame.
They weren't like, not even a four loss season. They
had a one loss season. His last name's Kelly, for
god's sake, He's got the Notre Dame job. You have
more control over your franchise, whatever you want to call it,
(18:14):
than any coach in America. You don't have to answer
to any conference presidents.
Speaker 6 (18:18):
Blah blah blah. All you got to do is recruit
and win, and they'll get you in the playoffs. As
you could see.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Yeah, but he had gotten to the point and I
think Notre Dame is built now to be a big
ten sec kind of team, physical, run the football. But
they've done that kind of in the image of Marcus Freeman,
not Brian Kelly. Brian Kelly was an offensive minded head coach.
Marcus Freeman played defense, played defense in college and was
their defensive coordinator. But yeah, I think there's certain And
(18:47):
what Kiffin had been ole Miss six years?
Speaker 2 (18:50):
And how long was Brian at Notre Dame? Was Brian
at Notre Dame ten years?
Speaker 6 (18:54):
Yeah, eleven years?
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Eleven years? Okay, Yeah, I think Notre Dame was like, uh,
you want to go?
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Okay, because I don't know if there was this you know,
pushback of what's it going to take to keep you
When you say I can't win a national title there,
but I can win a national title at LSU, That's
when I say you need help pack in your backs.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 13 (19:16):
Another nominee for worst Week, Jackson Dart. Yeah, did not
have a good week. Okay, took some big kids and
then didn't shy away from like, you know, I'm going
to take the big hits because I play football.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Well, we've had some people on the show this week
who have sided with him, like, yeah, I love that,
you know. Steve Young was saying, man, you love to
fire up your team. And I'll ask Ross Tucker this.
I want my quarterbacks smart. You have to be tough
to play the position, but I want you to be
smart when you play the position because if you pick
(19:53):
your spots. If that was I'm going to run one
more yard and try to run over this defensive back
and we're going to go to the super I get it.
But this wasn't for a first down. You got two
wins in your concussion protocol the two previous week.
Speaker 7 (20:10):
What do you think?
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Yeah, Paul, it.
Speaker 6 (20:13):
Goes back to that Garoppolo run six or seven years
ago against Kansas City.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
It was week three.
Speaker 6 (20:19):
He was not trying to He lowered his shoulder into
the defensive back. He tore his own knee up, not
his shoulder, his head. He tore up his own knee
cross the season.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Yeap, all right?
Speaker 3 (20:30):
The eight seven to seven three DP show operator sitting
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if you order by December eighth, you can get it
by Christmas. So Ross Tucker will join us. Coming up
this uh what next fifteen minutes or so, we'll get
(20:51):
to your phone calls. Got our poll question here. I
saw where Russell Wilson Junior the third is joining CBS
this week they have a bye the Giants have a
bye week, and I guess he's going to be in studio.
That would make sense. Can't imagine him out doing a game,
but Russ is going to be in studio for CBS.
(21:12):
Feels like this is what he is ready to transition to. Yes,
Marvin so dwarves out of my mouth.
Speaker 13 (21:19):
This feels like a Tiki Barber or Michael Strahan move
because unfortunately Michael Strahan has the career Teky Barbara thought
he was gonna have sorry, go.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Ahead, Yeah, I just.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
This is going to be difficult, I think for Russ
to step out of the almost robotic you know, hey,
here's my comments and you know, mister positivity, and now
you've got to go in and have an opinion on
you know, players and teams, and is he willing to
do that? That's the hardest part for all of these
(21:52):
analysts former players who become an analyst, what are you
going to say? And it's not like you have to
be really critical as much as you you have to
be analytical. And there's a difference. You can do your
job by pointing out something and not being mean spirited.
And I remember when Troy Aikman was just starting and
I talked to him in Saint Louis. We're at a
(22:14):
Joe Buck golf tournament, and I said, are you ready?
You know for this world. You know that you're going
to be critiquing. He said, well, I'm not going to
be mean spirited. As much as my job is to
analyze something. It's not to be critical of somebody. It's
to be analytical of somebody. And it was a great answer.
It's I'm not going to go out of my way,
(22:35):
but we as viewers, we want you to be honest
when you say something. You know it's not boy'd like
to have that one back after somebody throws a pick six,
it's boy, what that was a terrible throw? Or what
are you thinking in a situation like that? Instead of boy,
he would like to have that one back. I haven't
met a quarterback who hasn't had a pass where it
(22:56):
got picked off, where he didn't want to have that back.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
I'm happy with and I stepped into it.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
It's nice, spiral, tight, felt.
Speaker 7 (23:02):
Good leave in my hand. I don't know what happened
after that.
Speaker 6 (23:05):
What if Russell Wilson gets in the studio this weekend
and it's like a body switching movie and he just
starts lighting people up and he's mean spirited like all
the last ten years of frustration comedy, Like that guy sucks,
he shouldn't be in the league. Cut him.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Well.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
The problem is that all the guys who didn't like
him in Seattle don't play anymore, so he can't be
ripping those guys.
Speaker 7 (23:24):
Yes, yeah, sometimes I.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
Think that we, like the public, go a little crazy.
Speaker 7 (23:28):
Over like, well, this guy's got to have opinions, so
we better what.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
I don't see JJ Watt throwing haymakers every Sunday where he's.
Speaker 7 (23:35):
Like this guy sucks, that guy's great, Like he just
kind of breaks down the game and then that's it.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
You know.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
I don't see any reason why Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson
is a good looking guy. He looks good on camera.
He can articulate a thought really really well. You know,
he could break down games. I don't know why he wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Do very well.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
I gotta see how he breaks down a game. I mean,
we're still slicing and dicing Tom Brady because he seemed
a little robotic when he first started there and kind
of relaxing a little bit and talking to the boys,
you know, talking to your friends, being analytical but not
being critical. And I think there's a fine line in
(24:14):
doing that, and it's hard to do, uh guest hut.
Speaker 8 (24:18):
The scene's point, Matt Ryan is in one they say,
whoa shots fired?
Speaker 1 (24:21):
You at mets it?
Speaker 7 (24:23):
Ye, hear what he just said. He just tore them
into one.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
But I would always push Rodney Harrison and Tony Dungee
to what do you say, Like, don't say something that's obvious,
tell me something that we don't know, we didn't see,
and it doesn't mean like if somebody quits on a route,
then you say they quit on a route, like I
would have been critical of uh, you know last night
(24:47):
with uh George Pickens, the pat Pickens. Yeah, I would
have been critical of some of the past routes that
he was running and they were I mean, you're you
have to point those things out just to be fair
to the situation and to the audience.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
You have pauling.
Speaker 6 (25:02):
One thing that disappoints me. You go back to twenty seventeen.
Remember Fox Sports hired j Cutler, the former quarterback, to
be an analyst. He was gonna be like their third
team booth with Kevin Burkhart, and right before the season starts,
there's an injury and he goes to play for the
Mammi Dolphins. He never became a broadcaster. I really wanted
to see a guy like him because I had no
idea what we're gonna get with Jake Culer. I still don't.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
Well, you know they had that reality show, Oh yeah,
his wife, and he was interesting because he just didn't care.
You know, you're thinking, what did you see in him
in the first place? But he'd be like, all right,
well you gonna go hunting. I don't know whatever. I
don't think you can have that approach to doing you know,
(25:49):
NFL studio shows or game I don't know, what do
you think, I don't know whatever.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
I would have ran it there.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know why they always wanted would
you do.
Speaker 6 (26:02):
Third one. What do you think, Jake, I don't know.
They're gonna have to play.
Speaker 7 (26:04):
We'll figure it out afterwards.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
May run, they may I don't know. Whatever. Uh be great.
Speaker 6 (26:11):
I wish I'm gold a thought.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
I hope Russ has a fun weekend. I hope that
he does it and enjoys it and is able to
kind of give people an.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Appreciation for what he sees as a quarterback. I hope.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
So.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
I just don't know if you can jump out of
your uniform into a suit and then you sit there
and it's a sterile environment. As I tell the analyst
that I work with, you have to manufacture your excitement
when you're in the studio. When you're out of the game,
you don't have to worry about it. You're into it,
you're ready to hit somebody. But when you're in that
studio and it's very antiseptic, and I think that'll be
(26:50):
that's the challenge. Sometimes you try to get guys fired
up a little bit and it just doesn't come naturally.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Yes, Marvin, is.
Speaker 13 (26:58):
It going to be tough for him for him to
make criticize somebody because he's a current player.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Yeah, I would imagine. I mean, I don't know what
you're going to get out of him. It does give
CBS a little bit of news, and they can, you know,
make a bigger deal out of this and put him
in studio. But I don't I don't know what kind
of position they're going to put Russ in because I
don't know how many times do you hear Like Bill
Cower was very critical of Lane Kiffin. Yeah, he and
(27:28):
said that on the CBS show. They said it on
our show as well. I don't know how many of
those moments that you get. And this is a college
coach that he was very critical of, not an NFL coach.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
I mean, you pick your moments here, and it's different.
CBS is not a hot take place. You know, when
Rex Ryan goes on the Mothership, his job is to
get you to talk about what he talked about, so
it goes viral, get clicks. That's Ryan Clark. He wants
you to you know, hey, did you hear what he said?
That's that's what their job is. Hendrick Perkins, that's his job.
(28:03):
I want you to I want you to be talking
about what I'm talking about. I don't know if CBS
goes into it and saying Hey, JB or Bill Cower,
come on, you got to say something here, or Matt Ryan.
I mean, you hope they do, but you know you
you're hiring them because of their personality. I don't think
you can change somebody's personality. But I hope Russ gets
(28:24):
an opportunity to shine a little bit, because it certainly
feels like that's that's his next spot.
Speaker 8 (28:31):
Yes, Tom, does Russ get a private office on a
separate floor from the rest of the CBA's guys that
have been there for curious.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
Appointed Bronco?
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Would you say that to his face?
Speaker 8 (28:43):
If he probably wouldn't, I would. I would say it
in jes so tongue in cheeks. I wouldn't be upset.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
He would be called in. If he called in right
now and you answered the phone, you feel.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
The pressure now.
Speaker 8 (28:54):
I would have to say, are you get in your
own office this week out at CBS like you did
with the Broncos away from the rest of the tent.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
You would do that?
Speaker 1 (29:00):
I think I would have.
Speaker 8 (29:01):
To, because I gotta put my money where my mouth.
Speaker 6 (29:03):
Is, all right, I gotta put my money where my
mouth is.
Speaker 7 (29:06):
Exactly the same energy it takes that ross setting my money,
just get in my opinion.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
How about we take a break, we will talk to
Ross Tucker. He was on the call last night for
Westwood One. We're back after this on the Dan Patrick Show.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
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Speaker 3 (29:33):
He hosts the Ross Tucker Football Podcast. Follow him on
social media at Ross Tucker NFL. He was in the
booth last night Westwood One with the Cowboys and the Lions,
and then next Sunday, Week fifteen, he's got the Jets
and the Jags. Ross, good to see you again. It
feels like the state of Pennsylvania is the epicenter of
football right now, because you got Steelers, you got the Eagles,
(29:55):
and then you got penn State. So where do you
want to start?
Speaker 11 (30:00):
Right in the middle of all of it, Dan, I
live in central Pennsylvania, which is interesting because growing up
closer to Philly in Reading, it's one hundred percent Eagles fans.
You go an hour west and now it's probably fifty
to fifty between Eagles and Steelers. You know what I
would say, I'll make a comparison, actually, Dan, between Mike
Tomlin and James Franklin, because I'm hearing the same thing
(30:25):
from Steelers fans that I was hearing from some of
the Penn State fans. Now it's different, but there's a
lot of crossover between those two fan bases. And you know, Dan,
they just feel ready to move on, and they recognize
that Franklin was a good coach. They recognized that Mike
Tomlin is a good coach. I think in both instances,
(30:49):
they felt like it was time to move on. Now
we'll see how that works out for Penn State. Obviously
the coaching search has not gone as they wanted it to.
But there were a lot of people that wanted James
Franklin fired. They were sick of losing Ohio State, they
were sick of not winning quote unquote the big one,
(31:10):
and they were.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
Ready to move on. The same thing with Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 11 (31:13):
You know, Steelers fans have a really high standard, Dan,
really high standard, and they should. You the seventies and
even when Roethlisberger was there, they won a couple of
Super Bowls. They haven't won a playoff game since twenty sixteen,
and I think what frustrates them is it feels like
there's a commitment to just above mediocrity, there's a commitment
(31:36):
to being good enough, and they're sick of that. I mean,
you talk to Steelers fan, it's kind of wild that
they'd rather the team go three to fourteen and get
a high draft pick and finally try to fix the
quarterback position. I don't think they realize how hard that
is to do. But that's the mindset right now. A
lot of Steelers fans feel the same way a lot
(31:58):
of Penn State fans did, in which they're ready to
move on. What's unique about that is, just like Franklin,
if the Steelers part ways with Tomlin, he'll have three
or four offers this offseason.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
He'll have three or.
Speaker 11 (32:11):
Four NFL offers of teams that would be thrilled to
get Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Yeah, commitment to mediocrity or just above mediocrey not the
same as commitment to excellence. That you know the Raiders
coined back with Al Davis there. All right, you were
on the call with the game last night. What were
you expecting? I was expecting a lot of points, which
we got. I really thought the Cowboys were gonna win.
I mean I talked about this on the even Money
(32:38):
betting podcast, and honestly, everyone I spoke to Dan, I mean,
even Lions fans, even people that cover the Lions, everyone
was surprised that the Lions were favored, and not just favored.
They were favored by three, and then yesterday during the game,
you know, before the game, it went up to three
and a half, which is, you know, is a huge difference.
(33:02):
That made no sense to me from a betting perspective.
I thought taking the Cowboys three and a half made
all the sense in the world because the Lions' weaknesses
right now, or at least perceived weaknesses going into it,
matched up with the cowboys strengths.
Speaker 11 (33:17):
The interior of the offensive line for the Lions has
not been good and they're banged up. The Cowboys might
have the best d tackle rotation in the league right now.
The secondary they put Terry and Arnold their best corner
on ir they have no Kirby Joseph. You're going up
against George Pickens and Seedee Lamb. I think most people
thought the way these two teams were trending that it'd
(33:39):
be a high scoring game, but that the Cowboys would
probably win out right thirty four to thirty one. If
they lost, it would be by a field goaler. So
I will also say this, I did not think Iman
Ross Saint Brown was gonna play. He didn't practice at
all all week. If they didn't play him last night,
he'd have ten days before the next game. They still
had four more games to go. He made a really,
(34:02):
really significant difference last night.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
I know everybody's all in on George Pickens. I need
to see a little bit more. I know he can
be unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
I know you know.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
We were ready to christen him the best receiver the
Cowboys had a couple of weeks ago or last week,
but there it felt like there were a couple of
moments where George Pickens didn't do what he was supposed
to do. He still makes spectacular plays, but I just
can't be all in on him. And they're going to
sign him up to a thirty million dollar contract. I'm guessing,
(34:34):
what do you think?
Speaker 11 (34:36):
Well that that is the I guess thirty million dollar question,
because you know, whatever you want to say about him,
he's incredibly talented.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
He's a top five guy in terms of talent.
Speaker 11 (34:47):
He already had going into last night, the most yards
by any Cowboys receiver ever in the first twelve games
of the season, which is just incredible when you think
about the receivers that they've had. But you know, pick
your word, Dan a erratic behavior, enigmatic. He is a
(35:08):
very unique person. And when you see the season he's
having and the plays he's making for the Steelers who
drafted him to move on from him with as long
as they held on to Antonio Brown, as long as
they held on to other guys Plexico Buris and san
Antonio Holmes. That says a lot. I would be scared
(35:30):
to death to give him a long term deal. I'd
rather franchise tag him for a year, see how it goes.
He feels like Dan a guy that you want to
date and not marry.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
And if you do choose to marry him and the
Cowboys might boy, you better that contract.
Speaker 11 (35:47):
You better have a heck of a prenup if you're
gonna marry George Pickens to a long term deal.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
We're talking to Ross Tucker CDs Sports Westwood One, NFL
college football analyst and of course, host of the Ross
Tucker Football podcast. The most must Win Game of the
weekend is which one.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
I think I'm gonna say other than last night, I
think I'm gonna say the Chiefs.
Speaker 11 (36:11):
I think Chiefs Texans feels to me like that's as
close as we get to last night in the sense
of an elimination game. You know, I have no idea
how these people come up with these numbers where you know,
if the Cowboys win, they have a forty two percent
chance to make the playoffs. If they lose, they have
a nine. I mean, they could make up any number
and I would just believe them.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
But those guys, Man, you went to Princeton, you're supposed
to know these things.
Speaker 11 (36:38):
Dan, I intentionally avoided any math classes like that, like
they were the plague. Listen, there's certain classes at a
school like Princeton you take. There's certain classes you don't.
It's like all the guys freshman year that they walk
in they're like, yeah, I'm pre med. They're like, yeah, no,
you're not.
Speaker 4 (36:58):
You won't be Yeah, wait till organic chemistry.
Speaker 11 (37:02):
Just so you know, when you walk into that class,
almost everybody in there is smarter than you.
Speaker 4 (37:08):
And if they're not, it's the hockey guys.
Speaker 11 (37:14):
But no, I mean they come up with these percentages,
and last night was a massive swing, right like thirty
percent either way for the Lions and the Cowboys. That's
the Texans and the Chiefs. And what's interesting about that
one is it reminds me of last night in the
sense that the Chiefs are down both starting offensive tackles.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
Let me tell you who you don't want to play
when that's the case.
Speaker 11 (37:36):
The Houston Texans Danil Hunter, Will Anderson the best edge
duo in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (37:43):
Those are two bad dudes. Mahomes better get rid of
the ball quickly.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
I brought this up a couple of times to a
couple of different guests. Would you rather have a smart
player as a quarterback or a tough player as a quarterback?
Speaker 4 (38:01):
Smart? Yeah, I would say smart.
Speaker 11 (38:03):
I think it's still you know, isn't interesting that in
football with all these big, tough, strong, fast guys, it
really is intelligence. And we're talking football intelligence has nothing
to do with your SAT or whatever, but football intelligence
still is a massive, massive differentiator. You watch what Stafford
(38:23):
does a lot of these games. It's like he's in
the matrix, you know, he's seeing it the other night.
Joe Burrow, you know, I had a coach saying, we
were talking about this on the Ross Tucker podcast, Joe
Burrow is like a human computer chip. I mean that's
how quickly he probably And I have no idea what
kind of grades he got or whatever.
Speaker 4 (38:43):
But he's the son of a coach and smart.
Speaker 9 (38:47):
Look.
Speaker 11 (38:48):
Of course you want them to be tough, right, but
tough can get you in trouble. You know who's tough.
Jackson Darts tough. Okay, Jackson darts tough. I'm not sure
where he is on the smart scale.
Speaker 4 (38:59):
Okay.
Speaker 11 (39:00):
I don't know how much of that's just youthful bravado
or stupidity.
Speaker 4 (39:03):
I'm not sure where he's at on that scale. I
like tough, I love smart. If I'm trying to win.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Big yeah, And I know Jackson Dart.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
You know his dad was a defensive back and this
is how he plays. And it's not soccer. If that
one yard means we win the super Bowl, then go
get him. But that one yard you're coming out of
concussion protocol. You have two wins on the season, get
out of bounds.
Speaker 11 (39:29):
Well, and Dan, I can remember this. I think it
was the fourth team I played for, was the Patriots,
And when you're in the training room. Okay, I don't
know if they still have it, but when you're in
the training room, they have a big sign above the
entrance and exit door that says the best ability is availability.
Speaker 4 (39:51):
They are very very clear, you're sitting there in the
training room Dan getting treatment looking at that sign.
Speaker 11 (39:58):
I mean, it's it's and maybe they took it down
because Belichick's not there anymore, but there was nothing subtle
about it. It was you're, you're, you know what needs
to be out there every day and you just can't win.
Speaker 4 (40:11):
You know.
Speaker 11 (40:11):
I love Jackson Dart's mentality, I suppose, especially as a
former lineman, but they need you out there. You just
missed two games and then in the first ten snaps
against the Patriots you get master blasted twice.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
I mean, we can't have that.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Is that the official term master blasted?
Speaker 11 (40:32):
I don't know where that came from, but now that
I said it, it sounds way too close to another term,
so I'll probably never ever be saying that again.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
Fritchy is a master blasturbader. Okay, So I think that
is that Mad Max?
Speaker 2 (40:47):
Is that what that movie? I think that's what it's from.
Speaker 4 (40:51):
Is it I don't know, man, you know what when
you you know?
Speaker 2 (40:54):
Is that from Mad Max?
Speaker 6 (40:56):
Yeah, that's from Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
Oh okays.
Speaker 6 (40:59):
The he's the guy who goes into the cage and
takes everybody out when they're they're jousting.
Speaker 11 (41:08):
So now that that's fascinating to me because I've seen
that movie thirty five years ago, So somewhere in my
brain talking about Jackson Dark getting smoked, that came out.
The human brain is a wild thing.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
Dan, Okay, but do linemen think less? Did you think
less of Tom Brady when he would just fall down
and not take a hit, or Peyton Manning or you
know some of these all time grades that didn't take
on contact.
Speaker 4 (41:38):
Not even a little bit. We wanted them to do
that tom Brady.
Speaker 11 (41:44):
All of our lives, our jobs, our success, our playoff money,
it's all in their hands. It's all in tom Brady's hands.
We can't have him getting hurt. I remember a Patriot
assistant coach telling me when I first got there, now
he's he's been a prominent coach since then, NFL head
(42:06):
coach and the whole deal. And I said, well, what
happened if something happens to Tom and he said, oh, well,
then we just fold up shop and it's over. And
I think he was joking, but because he was showing
me when I first got there all of the things
Dan that Brady did before the snap, which were crazy,
(42:27):
I had not experienced that with my first three teams.
No one redeclared the mic, changed the protection, changed the
run scheme right before the snap, and then snapped the
ball like Brady did. They were operating at a much
higher level, and you need that guy, you know. Think
about where the Chiefs would be without Mahomes or the
Bills without Josh Allen.
Speaker 4 (42:48):
You can't win with these guys getting hurt.
Speaker 3 (42:53):
Russell Wilson as a guest analyst on CBS, what do
you think?
Speaker 12 (43:00):
You know?
Speaker 11 (43:00):
I think I'm probably as curious as anybody else, you know.
I think we're all It's always interesting when someone that's
been playing this long and we know them in sort
of a player speak, player talk in that role to
see how they transition. Because Russell hasn't been known as
(43:21):
a guy that gives a colorful quote or gives a
lot of in depth information. He's sort of the prototype
and always has been for how you want your franchise
quarterback to handle those press conferences. You want them to smile,
you want to be courteous, and you want them to
give as little information as possible. So I think it
(43:43):
puts him in a unique spot on Sunday. Can he
just flip the switch?
Speaker 4 (43:48):
You know?
Speaker 11 (43:48):
Can he Can he flip the switch and actually say
something interesting? Or is he still sort of in I'm
an active player, you know, computer mode where I'm just
gonna say, you know, the generic thing because I don't
want to say anything that gets me in trouble.
Speaker 4 (44:04):
I'm fascinated by it. I think it's great.
Speaker 11 (44:06):
I mean, you know, I might tune in and watch
it to see, you know, what he's like. Of course,
because it's on CBS, and I love CBS, Dan, I
love anything that CBS does.
Speaker 4 (44:15):
I am fully on board with. Of course you do.
Speaker 3 (44:18):
You'll be on the call next Sunday, week fifteen between
the Jets and the Jags on CBS.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
Thank you, Ross, great to talk to.
Speaker 4 (44:25):
You always, Dan, Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
It's Ross Stucker.
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