December 15, 2025 • 49 mins
DP and the Danettes recap an eventful Week 15 in the NFL. They also discuss Diego Pavia calling out the Heisman Trophy voters. "First Things First" host and lifelong Chiefs fan Nick Wright reacts to his team missing the playoffs for the first time in a decade, and says the AFC is now Josh Allen's to lose.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Football tonight, Dolphins at the Steelers. The Dolphins could move
to five hundred. They're not totally eliminated from the playoff picture.
We'll talk about those teams that are, including your Kansas
City Chiefs. Patrick Mahomes is out. Have an MRI on
that knee because there's different grades there. If it's a
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grade one, grade two, grade three is the worst and
that could be a twelve month recovery period, but it'll
be somewhere between six and twelve months. Take it from me,
having experienced that, Bills over the Patriots, Broncos over the Packers,
the injuries with the Packers, the Rams, and the Lions,
Panthers right on que just as scripted I said on Friday,
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they shouldn't lose. People are going to buy into them,
and it's usually the team that's not as good in
that division that wins. And here are the Saints winning again,
Philip Rivers did okay, Seahawks pull out the win. You
got a big game coming up on Thursday between the
Seahawks and the Rams. No movement on Michigan's coaching front.
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Caylin de Borg keeps saying he's not interested in any
other jobs, but he is still the leading candidate on
a lot of these different websites as far as best
odds to become the next Michigan head coach. Fernando Mendoza
wins the Heisman and that was the story of the year.
Indiana number one team. They beat Ohio State. Mendoza's numbers
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were good. Gave a wonderful speech, leave it to Fritzy
to go. I don't know. Seemed a little too nice
in that speech.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Not bony, just like almost eerie. Nice, Like it's not
like a Disney employee nice.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Well, let's over the top.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Why are you doing?
Speaker 2 (01:47):
I thought it was a great speech. I thought it
was a wonderful speech. He gave part of it in Spanish.
I thanked his parents. I thought it was great.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Can you be that nice?
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I'm gonna go do some digging.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
There's gotta be something on this guy. I'm wan a Michigan.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
I think it's because you felt worse about yourself because
of friends.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
But there's gotta be an ill advised tweet when he
was in junior high school or some kind of racial
commerce something. There's got to be something with this guy.
What's going on with this so perfectly nice?
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Well, let's hope there isn't. Okay, So Patrick Mahomes is out,
We'll talk to Nick Wright, Kan City Chiefs Fan, Fox
Sports one host. He'll join us coming up best and
Worst of the week on your phone. Calls are always
welcome eight seven to seven, three DP show and a
poll question in the first hour of the program. Seat
and will provide that you start to look at the AFC.
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You look at you know, some of these quarterbacks who
might not be in the playoffs. Joe Burrow boit, what
it happened? What happened to the Bengals? You know, you
beat the Ravens and then all of a sudden you
get shut out at home against the Ravens. But Patrick
Mahomes Chargers. What's going to get lost in the Patrick
Mahomes injury is the Chargers winning that game. That was
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a big game, big game, winning it in that climate.
And you know, you got the Chargers and the Jags,
and I don't know if everybody or I don't know
how many of you are all in on those two teams. Yes,
the Jags haven't played anybody second half of the year.
But they won those games. It's weaken and week out
where we go, how did you lose to that team?
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So I do have to give them credit. You know,
granted they beat up on the Jets. Trevor Lawrence looked great.
Liam Cohen has done a really good job with Jacksonville.
Came over from Tampa's. Their offensive Coordinator's done a really
good job, just like he did with Baker Mayfield. And
you know the Kansas City loss, the Chargers did just
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enough to win that game. And that's all you need
to do. When you get to the playoffs. You know
there's degree of difficulty, it doesn't matter. You don't get
stylized points. You just win the game. But you start
to look at Josh Allen and what he did in
the second half, you know that's what you need. That
was a playoff like performance. You're down twenty one to nothing,
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you're in New England and all of a sudden, social
media has got your coach fired and Bills will never
win a Super Bowl and the you know, the Patriots
could be the best team in football to Buffalo ends
up winning that game. And now you don't have Mahomes
in there. You don't have Joe Burrow. I don't know
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if we're going to have Lamar Jackson, but you do
have Josh Allen, and Josh Allen is the best quarterback
right now in football. If I was going to look
at can that guy win a game? That guy, you know,
Stafford's probably going to be your MVP. But I'm looking
at one guy dominating, and Josh Allen is that guy. Now,
I don't think the team is great. They might be good,
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but what he's doing and now what we expect him
to do, this isn't the best Buffalo team. I love
James Cook, you know, he runs hard. I just I
don't know if they have enough, but maybe they don't
need enough this year because we're not sure about Jacksonville.
The Texans Chargers Denver looked really good. That defense was impressive,
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really impressive, and you know that's what you want. You
beat a Green Bay team, and now all of a sudden,
Michael Parsons is out probably for the rest of the year.
It looks like the injuries with the Packers. Now it's
up to can Jordan Love be that kind of guy?
Can he win you games? You get to this point
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in the season and you look at your quarterback and say,
can you be the difference? Can Justin Herbert be the difference?
Bo Knicks sometimes can be the difference, but he doesn't
have to be the difference all the time because that
defense is really good. But bow Knicks when he plays
well and that defense, they could be the best team
in the AFC, the best team in the NFL. The Rams,
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we've seen them where they're like unbelievable and then see
them where we go, wait a minute, what happened? Stafford
played well? I still think that's a really balanced team.
I want to make sure that you know injuries with
the Rams because this time of the year, everybody's dealing
with this, and I think that's the key is let's win.
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Let's stay healthy too. And then you got the game
tonight with the Steelers and the Dolphins. All right, Seaton,
let's pull question today.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
Well, we got a bunch of teams in the hunt here.
So if we were at a run down this list Lions, Cowboys, Panthers, Colts, Ravens, Dolphins,
who gets in.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Oh, I probably have to take a closer look at
all of that. I mean, the Lions are in a
tough division. Bears ended up winning I mean, the Vikings
beat the Cowboys, but they're out of the playoff picture.
So I'd have to look at how you measure up
in your division.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
Here there are some teams that jump out by name
value that you're like, oh, they're obviously in and others
that are in there that are like obviously not Like
the Lions to me is like, obviously they're gonna make it.
They should, they should, they should, right. The Ravens to
me is still the same thing. I know there's a
weird Ravens team, but I still have it in my
head of like, obviously, depending on the week, they could
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be the best team you ever saw the worst.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
And you're in that division where it might be the
first team to nine wins gets into the postseason.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Yes, I want to believe in the Panthers, but then
they have that egg against the Saints and they'll last
three games. They got to play the Bucks twice, which
will tell us a lot about that division and the Seahawks.
Between those two Bucks games for Carolina.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Yeah, even Seattle, like, I'm still not sure they could
have lost. They could have lost that game at home
to a grandpa And I'm watching the game and look
if Philip Rivers came on the show. I would say
I think my arm might be stronger than yours, and
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he would probably agree, but he did. Okay, I keep
and you know, after the game, he was really emotional
for the opportunity to be able to come back and play.
Speaker 6 (08:14):
Grateful, I mean grateful running out for warm ups and
all that, and out there from anthem and as the
game just got going, I was just thankful, grateful that
I was out there.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
And it was a blast. It was a blast.
Speaker 6 (08:29):
But obviously the emotion is now our disappointment, right, disappointment.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
You know, I'm this isn't about me.
Speaker 6 (08:35):
You know, we had a team of scrapping like crazy
to trying to stay alive and get in a postseason.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
So obviously we're all disappointed.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Yeah, but he did a pretty good job. But really
the star for the Colts to me was their defense
keeping Seattle in check. In Seattle, but Philip Rivers threw
a touchdown pass and they had a chance to win.
But give credit to Seattle. You end up winning that game.
That's a big game, and then you got the game
coming up on Thursday night against the Rams. But this
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was about comebacks. Six teams Bill's Falcons, Saints, Rams, Seahawks,
Chargers rallied from at least ten down to win in
Week fifteen. That's the second time this season six teams
have rallied to win after trailing by ten or more.
(09:25):
Business The stat of the Day brought to you by
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the reason why I bring that up. They only players
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thousand passing yards and at least twenty passing touchdowns in
each of their first six seasons. Peyton Manning and Russell Wilson, who.
Speaker 7 (09:56):
Standa day, Stananda day stat of a day, scant outa day.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
This is the stun of the day. And how about
my Raiders. Yes, at the beginning of the year, I
bet Fritzy the Raiders would have a better record than
the Broncos. They were shut out thirty one to nothing.
Now keep in mind, I can go back to Week
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seven when they were shut out thirty one to nothing
by the Chiefs. Yes, they're the first team to be
shut out by the Super Bowl teams from the previous
year since the Colts in nineteen seventy two, and they
were shut out by the identical score. Congratulations, Raiders, Congratulations,
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Like Pete Carroll said, no, this team hadn't quit.
Speaker 8 (10:50):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
You know, the scary part is like if they if
he said no, I think we quit. Okay. The fact
that he says no, we didn't quit and you lost
thirty one to nothing, that's the problem.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Yes, Todd, and that was a Super Bowl fifteen rematch.
You got to get up for these kind of games.
I don't understand.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Thank you, Tom. All righty uh seat Now any other
poll questions today?
Speaker 5 (11:11):
Yeah, this is a little off the beaten path, baby,
off the seat path. Which quarterback had the best weekend? Ooh,
I'll give you four options, all right.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Brock party. Okay, it's against the Titans.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
But okay, well you're gonna be able to say that
against all these guys. But these to me are all
guys that needed a big weekend and got it.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Oh oh, so Josh Allen's not on this list.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
Josh Allen is on this list.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
He's the next quarterback. Oh yeah, but he beat the
Patriots in New England. Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean that's
better than Brock Party beating the Titans. Uh Brock Party.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
He needed a big weekend. Okay, okay, Uh, Josh Allen
obviously monster weekend, uh.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
CJ. Stroud.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
He's sort of up and down, especially this third year.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
You know, I don't even know what his number.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
And he gets he gets that sort of label of like, well,
his defense is carrying it. That's true, which may or
may not be true. However, he still had a he
still had a pretty great weekend.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (12:11):
Trevor Lawrence, Oh, maybe had one of the best games
of his career.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Probably right has to be the best game accounted for
six touchdowns. I mean that's yeah, that was great.
Speaker 9 (12:24):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
Those are your four us Okay, Rock Party, Josh Allen,
C J. Stroud, Trevor Lawrence. Maybe there's others if anyone
else would like to populate, I would.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Put Trevor Lawrence in there, because, like, we still want
to see this and the fact that he showed that
he's capable of doing this, you know that that's what
surprised me. I Mean, everybody's played the you know, those
who played the Jets, how many you know quarterbacks have
put up these kind of numbers. We're still waiting to
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see it with the real Trevor Lawrence. Please stand up.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
That's yeah, you keep we keep getting every once in
a while, every couple of weeks, you get a glimpse
of Trevor Lawrence, the one that we expected to see, yeah,
and the one that we all want to see, and
you're like, see, there it is.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
That's the guy.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
If he could just do that every week.
Speaker 10 (13:12):
Hee MVP, he'd be a Hall of Famer. Yeah, yes, Paulie,
I gotta throw Phil Rivers in there. I mean what
people expected from him. People said that would be a disaster.
NFL reporters and analysts said to be a disaster. He
was eighteen for twenty seven and a touchdown, and he
kept them in it. He was only sacked once. He
didn't run for a yard because he didn't want to,
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but he had that. He drove them down just enough
to get a field goal.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
To take the lead. He didn't give it up. Yes, Todd, I.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Would vote for Trevor Lawrence, but I think at least
and also ran oh Nick's four touchdowns over three hundred
yards against Green Bay.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Should be mentioned a shocker. Shocker. It should be in
the mix of the discussion. Yeah, case you're not watching
on Peacock Todd is uh deck down in his broncoscare
han Ako Bronco shirt. Yeah, Now, could I wear that
in lieu of taking a pie to the face? If
I wore that sweater on Friday the entire.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Day seems like an easy way out, you know, in
the spirit of the holidays. I would probably allow it
so it you don't have to get the pie in
the face.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
Because I'm a good guy like that.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
I think that would be a noble gesture.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
I thought you'd doubled down on Friday, wasn't it. I
had the bet with the Wisconsin lady and then you
get it in on that.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
No, it was going to take away my pie if
green Bay won. I didn't double down. He you know,
we had a caller who said, hey, if green Bay wins,
then Dan doesn't take the pie to the face, and
whatever the other wording was with that bet. But I
it was either I was getting a pie or not.
I'm going to get a pie on Friday.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
And when people call in, you know, I'm assuming that
this is true. If you lose, they have to send
in an actual video so we can have fun with it.
With a look at it and see that they actually
took the pie to the face. They can't just say
I got a pie to the face.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
We have people who send them in touch. But I
was much sure everyone, Well, why don't you write him down?
Then why don't you keep track? And are you owed
a pie to the face?
Speaker 3 (15:07):
M yeah, well from her for the Packerd Bronco bet
and us with the twelve and two to two and
twelve Broncos.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Right, No, no, no, you don't get a pie to the face,
do you not? Yeah, Okay, Marvin's got one, and I've
got one. I don't know. Seaton's got to get a
spray tan. We got to clean all this up by
the end of the year. But I'll be happy to
take a pie to the face on Friday, or I'll
wear your Honuka Broncos sweater the entire show. That's pretty wild, Yes.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Didn't we just we used to have someone on social
media that would keep track of these bets. I don't
know if that person's out of business or how accurate
it was, but I remember seeing that on Twitter. If
there was a while, they would literally listing all the
different bets that were.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Going what exactly what kind of business is that that
you keep track of Pie to the face get very wealthy.
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Speaker 2 (16:34):
Nick Wright, Can City Chiefs fan will join us coming
up a little bit. Patrick Mahomes done for the year
and it will probably impact his twenty twenty six season.
No word yet on Micah Parsons, but it is feared
that he is a torn acl as well. All right,
so the Chiefs are out, Mahomes is out, the Bills
with a great comeback, and the Broncos over the Packers.
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The Rams and Alliance was a fun game to watch,
But this is one of those where you hope that
the injuries that you have are not something that is
going to be lasting for the Rams because you got
the game coming up on Thursday night and that is
going to be very important of can we get out
of this without injuries? Now you want to have home
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field advantage. I understand all of that, but this time
of the year, you're also hoping can we be healthy
by the end of the year. And that's the tricky part.
Seahawks squeak out a win. Philip Rivers. He did, okay,
he did okay. I mean, I think there's a bigger picture,
and I know that nobody wants to talk about it.
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I brought it up last week. Are you trying to
tell me there's no other quarterback on the planet who
could have played for the Colts that they went with
Philip Rivers. Now, I understand the familiarity with the coach,
the system he had played there, but are we running
out of really good quarterbacks? Because I know that there
are times when we go buy it that guy's going
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to be a star, that guy's going to be a
star at that position. The amount of money that's made there,
the development that starts in high school, junior high college.
I don't know. I'm watching and now I didn't find
it irresponsible. Ryan Clark of The Mothership former player, I
think he used the word, you know, that's irresponsible to
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put him out there. A lot of people thought that
he was going to be a disaster. I just wondered
if he had the arm strength against that team and
they were going to be able to protect him. Now
he doesn't have the arm strength. A lot of short
passes and as Philip said, hey, I couldn't throw the
ball fifty yards ten years ago. What makes you think,
you know, oh he's going to throw it fifty or
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he can't throw it fifty. I thought he did a
pretty good job, and a lot of that is just
managing a game. And you know, he took a couple
of shots, he had a touchdown pass and it meant
a lot to him. I mean you can hear the
emotion in his voice to the game.
Speaker 6 (19:02):
Grateful, I mean grateful running out for warm ups and
all that, and out there from anthem and as the
game just got gone, I was just thankful, grateful that.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
I was out there and I was a blast.
Speaker 6 (19:16):
It was a blast, But obviously the mostion is now
our disappointment, right, disappointment.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
You know, I'm this isn't about me, you know.
Speaker 6 (19:23):
We we have a team that was scrapping like crazy,
just trying to stay alive and get in the postseason.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
So obviously we're all disappointed.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
And yes it was about him, but the bigger picture
is about your team. And I thought, I mean, they
needed last second field goal to beat you at home.
The uh Patrick Mahomes injury. Andy Reid spoke about that
after the loss.
Speaker 11 (19:46):
Patrick hurt has left knee. We'll get an MRI tomorrow
or this evening whenever they get him in there didn't
look good, so you guys saw it. We'll just see
where where it goes.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
They were still in the game. Plus, when you get
injured this late in the season, it impacts next season.
And players know when they're hurt. I mean they you
can tell Michael Parsons knew it was serious. Even the
players when Mahomes was down, they knew it was serious.
There's you know, when Aaron Rodgers went down, he knew
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when he blew out his achilles. Kevin Durant, you know
when you see these athletes and they'll know better quicker
than anybody else because that feeling boom, it hits you.
And Mahomes knew that this was serious. Michael Parsons knew
it was serious. So you know, I think when we
look at them, and I always look to see how
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the players react around them, because that sometimes will tell
you they know the difference. They know when somebody's down
and not getting back up. And you saw that with
Mahomes and he already he's had a bulky knee. I mean,
he's had knee issues. But I wonder does this change
his approach at all, because he does use his legs
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far more than you think. And also he gets hit
far more than you think. He might not get sacked,
but he gets hit. And that's what Denver did. Jordan
Love They hit him fifteen times after a while. And
I forget who was on with us who talked about
Aaron Rodgers getting hit to then trying to play differently
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to not get hit. I forget who we had on
last week. Was it maybe Steve Young but maybe talking
about how you know, as a younger quarterback, you know
you got to stay in the pocket or you got
to stay in there and you're going to take that hit.
As you get older, you make business decisions. And whoever
it was he was on with us talked about that's
where Aaron Rodgers is now, whereas Green Bay days. I'm
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going to stay in here and then all of a sudden,
you're not like I watched Jackson Dart and it is
much much is I like him. I thought he was
going to be a first round pick. I think he's
exciting once again. He's going to be in the blue tent.
He's going to be in the blue tent far more
than he should be. Then you saw that yesterday the
officials sent him to the sidelines. It wasn't the giants,
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it was the officials who said, hey, get him out.
And now they're looking for that with Jackson Dark. But
if you're in the blue tent, you're in concussion Protocol
three four, five times a year. I mean, we haven't
brought up to and concussions in a long long time.
And I hope that I didn't jinx in with the
game tonight. But you've got to understand what you can
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and can't do. You're young, and hey, I'm going to
take advantage of that. I don't have any problems with
you running. I have a problem with you getting hit
when you run and he wants to take contact and
you're watching and you're going, do you want to have
a ten year career or do you want to have
a five year career? Because I don't think that you
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can play the way you're playing and have a ten
year career.
Speaker 10 (23:05):
Yeah, Pauline, I just went back and looked at the
Dart hit yesterday. He's right by the goal line. He
puts his head down in the two defenders, and when
he's on the ground, he stays down there a second.
He asks for a hand up, and when he gets up,
he does the headshake, and the officials two feet away
sends him right over the sideline.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
When you see the shake, that's when that's like, damn,
I got stars, Bell's ringing cobwebs and you're playing a
position where you gotta have you got to be sharp, acute,
all right, pull question for a second hour of the
program is going to be what Seaton?
Speaker 5 (23:44):
Yeah, man, that's tough. That's a lot of concussions for
that kid.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Yeah, cheers, yeahs.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
Yeah, Let's see we got two up there right now.
NFL playoff related which team is more surprising to currently
be out of the playoffs, the Ravens or the Lions.
Lions have seventy five percent of that vote, and then
who will make the playoffs or Ravens. That one's a
lot closer. Fifty two percent have the Ravens.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
And then I don't know. Can TJ Watt play after
having a collapse or punctured lung because that came out
and I'm like, wait a minute, he went in for
treatment and came out with a punctured lung. Yeah, Paula.
Speaker 10 (24:17):
According to jj Watt, TJ had successful surgery to stabilize
a partially collapsed lung. No details on the recovery timeline,
but when you hear timeline, it doesn't.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
See Oh my god.
Speaker 10 (24:28):
By the way, JJ Watt wants to play with no lungs.
Remember that two thousand and seven, I think it was
zero lungs.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Didn't need them. Tyler and Illinois, Hi, Tyler, what's on
your mind today? Hey?
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Dan?
Speaker 12 (24:42):
Five ten?
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Dad bod two oh five?
Speaker 12 (24:47):
Hey, I was curious about your relationship as far as
those with your insiders. Is this a just an a
trading of information? Do you have it where you guys
are buying each other dinner, or you can go as
far as having anybody on your play roll as far
as getting information back and forth to each other.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
No, no, there's no quid pro quo. Haven't bought dinners.
If I see them, it's just a casual conversation. But no,
I'm not buying gifts for people. I've known a couple
of these sources for over thirty years and this went
(25:30):
back to the Sports Center days, and now all I ask,
and this can be people who have been on the air,
or even they're not on the show. It just keep
me honest on something, give me a heads up if
I'm going in the right direction. So all I'm doing
is protecting you know, what I've built up for forty years.
I just want to make sure that what I get
(25:51):
is right and I can give it to you. But
you know, these people aren't looking for any kind of
attribution there. They just they listened to the show and
that's all they're doing is giving me information. Now, it's
not always correct, but it does come from a good
place of people that I've trusted for a long long time.
(26:12):
And I'm very lucky to have those kind of people
in my life. Who will look out for me? You know,
information on the Big Ten or information on Michigan. Go
down the list of things. You know, We've had a
lot of success with a lot of college football information.
Used to be, I had a ton of baseball information,
(26:35):
broke stories with baseball NBA. But you know, once again,
people who I have trusted, some have gotten out of
the business, some have retired. Well, that kind of goes
along with cultivating, constantly cultivating sources. Somebody who can tell
you something. Somebody's willing to tell you something, and the
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benefit the payoff is I'm able to relay that to you. No,
I'm not getting Christmas gifts or you know, sending chocolates
to teams, as some insiders do off in baskets. Yeah,
we're not doing that. Zack and Knoxville. Good morning, Zach.
What's on your mind today?
Speaker 8 (27:13):
Adp thanks for taking my call. I just want to
piggyback on the diego Pavia stuck and he was asked before,
and I think all the candidates were who's the best
college football player in history?
Speaker 12 (27:27):
And he set himself and I just.
Speaker 8 (27:29):
Wanted to remind him that Johnny Manziel rushed for thirty
eight more yards and three more touchdowns than Jeremiah loved
did in his Heisman season. And I also have a
poll question. If you think Diego Pavia within the next
three years, do you think that he will start a
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game in the NFL or fight Jake Paul?
Speaker 2 (27:57):
That all one. I don't know any information about Diego
and the NFL because the people I trust they're not
doing that right now, and it would be just conjecture.
You know, I don't want to do that because I
don't know that. The only thing I heard from in
one of my sources talked about Fernando Mendoza didn't do
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anything great, but he didn't have weaknesses, and you know,
this a pocket quarterback. So that's the only analysis I
guess if you want to factor that in of what
I don't know. It's only a couple of sentences because
I was just curious. I watch him and I go, okay,
he's good. I mean, it could be like Sam Bradford,
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like okay, but I don't know if he's great. You know,
Dante Moore could turn out to be a better quarterback.
Sellers could turn out. I mean, you know, you don't
know Sellers is coming back to South Carolina.
Speaker 9 (28:56):
Yes, Mark, Yeah, with Pavia in those this almost feels
like a cam Ward Shadoor Sanders situation where somebody might
be the better quarterback, but the other person is a
lightning rod. He's a star, he gets more clicks. It
feels like that type of situation.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Yeah, And you know you're watching cam Ward yesterday. He
has a couple of plays. It's not a good team.
Shador didn't look good at all against the Bears. Give
the Bears credit though. I mean the Bears, you know,
dominated that game and a lot of takeaways there. You know,
Shador is looking like a rookie quarterback. There are going
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to be moments, but right now he's not a good quarterback.
But there's potential there. And he's got three more games.
Maybe maybe you see something, they see something where they go,
you know what, let's keep him, Yeah, Pauline. Yeah, And
they have draft picks.
Speaker 10 (29:48):
It'd be interesting that they try to build their roster
and then bring in a quarterback instead the other way around,
which the Browns usually go for the quarterback and hopefully
the roster is decent.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Well, there was speculation, and I think I brought to
people's attention that they could trade Shador, But what are
you getting in return? And are they going to take
a quarterback? Are you showcasing him that maybe somebody would
trade for him. I don't know if people look at
him as his starting quarterback, but he is now he's
gotten an opportunity. This is what all the analyst wanted.
(30:20):
Everybody who was you know, pro Dion pro Shador. Oh,
give him a chance first team. Let's see. Okay, he's
getting that. He's going to give you some highlights. That's
where you're misled. Watch somebody an entire game, you'll get
a real sense of just how good they are. But
we're in a highlight driven world where it's like, man,
(30:43):
that guy look great, and you go, he had four
really good throws? What about the other sixteen that he had.
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What's Right with Nick Right on YouTube wherever you get
your podcast. What was the overall feeling going into yesterday's game.
Speaker 13 (31:19):
Well, I'm not answering that question. To start with, Dan, First,
I'm going to say this, I have found out what
it takes to get a long awaited return invite after
months off the show, and evidently it's buying you a
very expensive bottle of wine, multiple after dinner drinks and
(31:40):
dinner and my football team having the worst moment of
the decade. So glad to be back under such glorious circumstances, Dan,
what was your question? You know what was my mood?
Speaker 2 (31:56):
The dinner didn't have any impact on bringing you back.
It was really about the Chiefs dying.
Speaker 13 (32:02):
Yeah, you know what, I thought that might have been
the case, And shout out to Fritzy who just really
has created his job. But honestly, I'm not gonna try
to be ablest in any way, but might just have
a little thing off where I mean. I think the
CBS was cutting to Mahomes hobbling into the locker room
(32:26):
when I got the text, and there was just a
cursory Sorry, today's tough for you. Are you available tomorrow? Listen?
My mood yesterday was going into the game that if
they won, I thought they had a very good chance
of making the playoffs because I thought that sports media
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in general didn't do it. They made it. The Chiefs
path the playoffs going into yesterday seem very complicated when
it wasn't. It was simply the Colts with the grandfather
playing quarterback, lose at least twice against a brutal schedule,
and if the Chiefs went out and the Chargers lose
to Denver in Week eighteen, plus one other game to
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either Houston or the Cowboys, and I was like, well,
all those things are super doable once the game got going,
when the only reason I am not catatonic today is
because to me, the Chiefs season ended on the Chargers
drive before halftime, when they got that touchdown with forty
(33:30):
seconds left, because that was the seventh different, distinct instance
this season where the Chiefs showed you they're just not
a championship caliber team. There have been so many times
this year that Chiefs teams of the past stand up
and make the big moments. I've compared them to the
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great tennis player that knows there's only four or five
points that actually will decide this match, and that's when
I'll be a my best. And the Chiefs team last
year and the years past always were at their best there.
This year they were the opposite. So I was resigned
to the loss really and that even Okay, maybe they'll
win this game, but they're not going to go on
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any type of run. The Patrick injury, it is obviously
devastating for him for the team. You know, was that
the last moments with he and Kelsey on the field together.
I would I don't know that for sure, but it
certainly is more than on the board. It's probably likely
(34:36):
all of that. But I I believe in sports gods,
and I believe in that history, you know, repeats itself
in sports a lot. And I've said more times than
I can count that in year seven, Tom Brady was
going for Super Bowl four, walked onto the knowing, if
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I win this game, we are the greatest team of
all time. And the next year they lost that game,
and the next year he blew out his knee. Year seven,
Patrick Mahomes was going for Super Bowl four, walked onto
the field knowing, if we win this game, we're the
greatest team of all time. And then what I'd been
saying is and he didn't blow out his knee. But
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they've had the season from hell, and now he also
blew out his knee, and so it just is what
it is. Dan Oh, I wish I could be more positive,
but it sucks, just really sucks. It's sports. It happens.
Packer fans are almost just as sick like Packer fans
are sick in a different way today, and so because
they don't, I think this somehow feels worse if the
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Chiefs went into that game ten and three, then six
and seven, if you. And that's how Packers fans feel
this morning. Like man, this season is a real chance.
But I just feel awful for Patrick and for the guy.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
The Chiefs missed the playoffs because.
Speaker 13 (36:04):
They deserve to. They a combination of things, man, it
is they the playing in three straight Super Bowls and
playing in five of the last six and seven straight
conference championship games. The more than extra season of football
(36:25):
that they have played caught up to them to a degree.
They were not great. In fact, they were awful, and
as I said, those winning moments, those little things that
determined so many pro football games. Patrick, for some reason
this year was incredibly shaky on deep passes, which allowed
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the defense to constrict and the progression of the young
receivers did not happen the way I thought it would.
They had no running game other than Patrick whatsoever. And
they couldn't get a pass rush all. And by the way,
the special teams weren't that good. So like you add
all that up, that's a bad team. And I there
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were moments this year, like when Baltimore looked like a
good team, they housed them. When the Lions are a
good team, just probably not good enough, they housed them.
But for some reason after the bye, they played poorly
in every single game, even the one game they have
won post by the Colts game, they're down eleven in
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the fourth quarter, like it took a miracle to get
back in that they just weren't good enough. Like this
is shout out to Jim Kelly. This is why it's
so hard to make four straight Super Bowls, I suppose.
And they just weren't able to get over the hump
at any point this year.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Andy Reid's future is what.
Speaker 13 (37:55):
Head coach of the Kansas City Chiefs like that that
is I am. There are some Chiefs fans that wish
it were different. There's a name for those people.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Idiots.
Speaker 13 (38:05):
Listen, I think Andy, there are some moments this year,
Andy would like back and you know did they have?
They at times gotten spoiled by Patrick's ability to make
the most out of maybe a scheme that has gotten
a little stale ish. Sure, but Andy Reid is one
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of the three greatest coaches in the history of the
sport and is currently, as we sit here today, the
three time defending AFC champion coach. Like, now, would I
like to see some updates to the offense schematically?
Speaker 4 (38:46):
Sure?
Speaker 13 (38:47):
Am I gonna probably put an unfair level of blame
on Matt and aagey maybe, But Andy Reid's the head
coach of the Kansas City Chiefs until he doesn't want
to be in my.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
Eyes, you start to look at the running game or
lack thereof the offensive line. Patrick takes a lot of hits,
too many second in the league in hits. Now, I
know that he does try to extend plays the receivers.
We waited Kelsey. He looks like he's laboring out there,
not having that Chris Jones impactful season. So it felt
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like it all kind of just yeah, yeah, get.
Speaker 13 (39:27):
I say something. Listen, last year, the offensive line being
a reason the offense wasn't explosive was not an excuse.
It was an explanation. I want to say something about
because the Chiefs should not spend draft resources this year
on the offensive line. They have an all pro center,
(39:47):
they have an all pro right guard. The right guard
was out injured yesterday. The left guard is the kid
they drafted to play tackle in the second round two
years ago. He hasn't been wasn't good at tackle. He
was very solid at left guard this year. And the
left tackle Josh Simmons again, he was out with a
personal matter for a month, and then a few weeks
(40:07):
ago he got his wrists broken by a teammate accidentally
trying to help him on a block, so he's been out.
When he was out there, he was as good as
any rookie tackle in football this year. That's four or
fifths of your offensive line. And the right tackles ben
Juwan Taylor, who again he was hurt yesterday. In the
last couple of weeks, he's probably gone because of cap reasons.
(40:29):
But the offensive line is not a problem. The offensive
line has been a PROBA in the last two weeks
because they were down of their top eight offensive linemen.
They were down five of them. Like the injuries were
the problem. But the Patrick's never had a thousand yard rusher,
a thousand yard rusher never, and they they spent a
first round pick on Clyde Edwards Hilaire after winning the
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first Super Bowl and seem almost gun shy to spend
any resources at that position since then. But no, that
must be addressed, and I think it will be addressed
this offseason.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
I'm talking to Nick Wright, host of First Things First,
and you can watch that every afternoon Monday through Friday
on Fox Sports one. What's Right with Nick right on
YouTube wherever you get your podcast. Best team in the
AFC moving forward is who.
Speaker 13 (41:19):
I mean the best team. The team that has earned
that right now distinction is the Broncos. But the team
de beats the Bills. And this is this is not
me trying to heap extra pressure on Josh Allen. This is,
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though a very matter of fact point, which is, if
not now win for Josh Allen. Since Josh Allen's been
a great player, either Patrick Mahomes or Joe Burrow have
knocked him out of the playoffs every single year Patrick
four times. Joe wants not in the playoffs. The other
(42:02):
big time you know, Hall of Fame caliber quarterback that's
been in the playoffs all of those years or most
of them is Lamar. That team yesterday, notwithstanding, is broken.
He has had no one in the division to deal with,
and now he does have a real team in the
division in the Patriots moving forward. But I think it's
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I think it would reasona believe that Drake May this
as good as Drake May is, this is the worst
Drake May will be over the next five years, because
he's just gonna get better. This has to be the
Bill's moment to finally get to a super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
It feels like Josh Allen's making a late charge here
for MVP.
Speaker 13 (42:44):
Yeah, I listen, I hope not in this regard. I
hope we don't turn MVP into Player of the Month
for December like Matthews, and there has been too much
of that recently, where the odds shift dramatically in these
late season games. Matthew Stafford's been the MVP of this
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league basically wired to wire. And as the Matthew Stafford's
had one bad game this year, Josh has had like
four really grizzly games. You can say that this that
Josh is with Mahomes injured the best player in the league.
That's fine. I do think he is the second best
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quarterback in the league over a large sample. But Matthew
Stafford's been the MVP of the league. And by the way,
the Rams they just keep winning. And they play a
Thursday night game that they're gonna play without Devontae Adams
against Seattle that if they lose, they are staring at
a wild card. Like, they win that game, they're gonna
(43:53):
be the one seed in the huge favorites. They lose
and they're, you know, on the road in Week one
of the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
Yeah, that's what I wonder what this standalone game is
going to do because it does impact people's thoughts, good
or bad with a team or a player. And if
the Rams would happen to lose that game, yeah, and
then they would go. It just feels like there is
this ground swell.
Speaker 4 (44:18):
Now.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
I got to give Josh Allen credit for closing these
games in the month of December, the hardest games, you know,
to close with the pressure on him and Drake May.
If he had won yesterday, then I think we have
a legitimate two man battle there between Drake May and
Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 13 (44:36):
No, I agree that, and it feels like it's been
between May and Stafford. May was the favorite two weeks
ago when Stafford had the one bad game he's had
this year, but then Drake had a bye, got penalized
for having a bye, and then then Stafford was excellent
once again. I know, I think the standalone game, absolutely
(44:57):
they do have a despair impact on the award. But
here's the other thing. For Stafford. If he went like
he has more on the line for this MVP than
any player in recent memory in this regard, no matter
what happens in this postseason, if he wins MVP Dan,
(45:19):
he's a Hall of Famer. Like if he has a
Super Bowl championship plus the league MVP, he's just gonna
be a Hall of Famer. Now, if he doesn't win
MVP and they win the championship, then he'll be a
Hall of Famer that way as well. But if somehow
Allen runs him down for MVP and they get clipped
in a brutal NFC playoffs, then his Hall of Fame
(45:42):
resume becomes very thin in a way that I don't
necessarily think is fair. But I think he's only like
a two time pro bowler has never you know, come
close to an MVP like, but so he has, he
wins MVP and he's a Hall of Famer, which will
be pretty sick.
Speaker 2 (45:59):
But the Lions get the blame for all of that,
not Stafford.
Speaker 13 (46:04):
Yes they do, but it is it's going to get.
One of the reasons I think Philip Rivers coming back
was beneficial for him was I think it raises his
chances of being a Hall of Famer because there's about
to be this quarterback kind of logjam where Breeze is
(46:27):
gonna get in this year, so Rivers will have to wait.
Eli's already waiting. In two years, Brady comes available, and
by resetting the clock, there's about to be this quarterback
kind of gap of Hall of Fame cal it'll just
be Rivers, who's eligible in five years, and Rogers and
(46:48):
there's not going to be anybody else in the three
or four years that follow because think about it, who
are the Hall of Fame caliber quarterbacks playing right now?
None of them are old gay except for Rogers, so
that you know, like the Dak Stafford is the one
that I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
What about Russell Wilson.
Speaker 13 (47:11):
Man, he's gonna be an interesting case.
Speaker 2 (47:15):
I you know this is coud. You can make a
case more for Russell than Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 13 (47:20):
Correct. Oh, as we sit here today, Russell has a
stronger case, which is why I'm saying if Stafford wins MVP.
If Stafford wins MVP, then you have just enough of
the credentials to go along with the eye test that
people have always loved.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
Thanks again for dinner and no problem.
Speaker 13 (47:43):
Wow, I'm really somehow I I philibustered about matt Stafford's
Hall of Fame chances to avoid the fall of the Chiefs.
I don't know if that's what you brought me on for,
but I I gotta say I was impressed by myself there.
Speaker 2 (47:57):
No, you philibustered about the Chiefs for at least ten minutes.
Then we brought it. Then we brought it to you
know what, what the country would be interested in, and
that's the m v P with Matthew Stafford. But once again,
it was just a thank you for dinner. It was great,
great conn.
Speaker 13 (48:13):
From what do I have to do to qualify to
get one of the blurry signed photos behind you?
Speaker 2 (48:22):
Do you mean have one up? Yeah? Yeah, send it
to me.
Speaker 13 (48:26):
Oh yeah, wow, okay, me next to Michaels. What a
what a dream?
Speaker 2 (48:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 13 (48:34):
Okay, all right, I'm.
Speaker 10 (48:35):
Sitting that Wait what next to al Michaels just yet
pumped the brakes a little.
Speaker 13 (48:43):
Just there's not many openings that, Paulie.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
Yes, that's part of the collective. I got a whole
man cave here, Nick, Okay, maybe maybe you know what,
maybe I'll create a shrine. You believe in miracles, Maybe
a shrine for you.
Speaker 13 (48:59):
I'll see you guys.
Speaker 2 (49:00):
All right, thanks again. That's Nick, right,
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Football tonight, Dolphins at the Steelers. The Dolphins could move
to five hundred. They're not totally eliminated from the playoff picture.
We'll talk about those teams that are, including your Kansas
City Chiefs. Patrick Mahomes is out. Have an MRI on
that knee because there's different grades there. If it's a
(00:25):
grade one, grade two, grade three is the worst and
that could be a twelve month recovery period, but it'll
be somewhere between six and twelve months. Take it from me,
having experienced that, Bills over the Patriots, Broncos over the Packers,
the injuries with the Packers, the Rams, and the Lions,
Panthers right on que just as scripted I said on Friday,
(00:49):
they shouldn't lose. People are going to buy into them,
and it's usually the team that's not as good in
that division that wins. And here are the Saints winning again,
Philip Rivers did okay, Seahawks pull out the win. You
got a big game coming up on Thursday between the
Seahawks and the Rams. No movement on Michigan's coaching front.
(01:10):
Caylin de Borg keeps saying he's not interested in any
other jobs, but he is still the leading candidate on
a lot of these different websites as far as best
odds to become the next Michigan head coach. Fernando Mendoza
wins the Heisman and that was the story of the year.
Indiana number one team. They beat Ohio State. Mendoza's numbers
(01:33):
were good. Gave a wonderful speech, leave it to Fritzy
to go. I don't know. Seemed a little too nice
in that speech.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Not bony, just like almost eerie. Nice, Like it's not
like a Disney employee nice.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Well, let's over the top.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Why are you doing?
Speaker 2 (01:47):
I thought it was a great speech. I thought it
was a wonderful speech. He gave part of it in Spanish.
I thanked his parents. I thought it was great.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Can you be that nice?
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I'm gonna go do some digging.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
There's gotta be something on this guy. I'm wan a Michigan.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
I think it's because you felt worse about yourself because
of friends.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
But there's gotta be an ill advised tweet when he
was in junior high school or some kind of racial
commerce something. There's got to be something with this guy.
What's going on with this so perfectly nice?
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Well, let's hope there isn't. Okay, So Patrick Mahomes is out,
We'll talk to Nick Wright, Kan City Chiefs Fan, Fox
Sports one host. He'll join us coming up best and
Worst of the week on your phone. Calls are always
welcome eight seven to seven, three DP show and a
poll question in the first hour of the program. Seat
and will provide that you start to look at the AFC.
(02:37):
You look at you know, some of these quarterbacks who
might not be in the playoffs. Joe Burrow boit, what
it happened? What happened to the Bengals? You know, you
beat the Ravens and then all of a sudden you
get shut out at home against the Ravens. But Patrick
Mahomes Chargers. What's going to get lost in the Patrick
Mahomes injury is the Chargers winning that game. That was
(03:00):
a big game, big game, winning it in that climate.
And you know, you got the Chargers and the Jags,
and I don't know if everybody or I don't know
how many of you are all in on those two teams. Yes,
the Jags haven't played anybody second half of the year.
But they won those games. It's weaken and week out
where we go, how did you lose to that team?
(03:21):
So I do have to give them credit. You know,
granted they beat up on the Jets. Trevor Lawrence looked great.
Liam Cohen has done a really good job with Jacksonville.
Came over from Tampa's. Their offensive Coordinator's done a really
good job, just like he did with Baker Mayfield. And
you know the Kansas City loss, the Chargers did just
(03:42):
enough to win that game. And that's all you need
to do. When you get to the playoffs. You know
there's degree of difficulty, it doesn't matter. You don't get
stylized points. You just win the game. But you start
to look at Josh Allen and what he did in
the second half, you know that's what you need. That
was a playoff like performance. You're down twenty one to nothing,
(04:05):
you're in New England and all of a sudden, social
media has got your coach fired and Bills will never
win a Super Bowl and the you know, the Patriots
could be the best team in football to Buffalo ends
up winning that game. And now you don't have Mahomes
in there. You don't have Joe Burrow. I don't know
(04:26):
if we're going to have Lamar Jackson, but you do
have Josh Allen, and Josh Allen is the best quarterback
right now in football. If I was going to look
at can that guy win a game? That guy, you know,
Stafford's probably going to be your MVP. But I'm looking
at one guy dominating, and Josh Allen is that guy. Now,
I don't think the team is great. They might be good,
(04:50):
but what he's doing and now what we expect him
to do, this isn't the best Buffalo team. I love
James Cook, you know, he runs hard. I just I
don't know if they have enough, but maybe they don't
need enough this year because we're not sure about Jacksonville.
The Texans Chargers Denver looked really good. That defense was impressive,
(05:13):
really impressive, and you know that's what you want. You
beat a Green Bay team, and now all of a sudden,
Michael Parsons is out probably for the rest of the year.
It looks like the injuries with the Packers. Now it's
up to can Jordan Love be that kind of guy?
Can he win you games? You get to this point
(05:34):
in the season and you look at your quarterback and say,
can you be the difference? Can Justin Herbert be the difference?
Bo Knicks sometimes can be the difference, but he doesn't
have to be the difference all the time because that
defense is really good. But bow Knicks when he plays
well and that defense, they could be the best team
in the AFC, the best team in the NFL. The Rams,
(05:57):
we've seen them where they're like unbelievable and then see
them where we go, wait a minute, what happened? Stafford
played well? I still think that's a really balanced team.
I want to make sure that you know injuries with
the Rams because this time of the year, everybody's dealing
with this, and I think that's the key is let's win.
(06:19):
Let's stay healthy too. And then you got the game
tonight with the Steelers and the Dolphins. All right, Seaton,
let's pull question today.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
Well, we got a bunch of teams in the hunt here.
So if we were at a run down this list Lions, Cowboys, Panthers, Colts, Ravens, Dolphins,
who gets in.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Oh, I probably have to take a closer look at
all of that. I mean, the Lions are in a
tough division. Bears ended up winning I mean, the Vikings
beat the Cowboys, but they're out of the playoff picture.
So I'd have to look at how you measure up
in your division.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
Here there are some teams that jump out by name
value that you're like, oh, they're obviously in and others
that are in there that are like obviously not Like
the Lions to me is like, obviously they're gonna make it.
They should, they should, they should, right. The Ravens to
me is still the same thing. I know there's a
weird Ravens team, but I still have it in my
head of like, obviously, depending on the week, they could
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be the best team you ever saw the worst.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
And you're in that division where it might be the
first team to nine wins gets into the postseason.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Yes, I want to believe in the Panthers, but then
they have that egg against the Saints and they'll last
three games. They got to play the Bucks twice, which
will tell us a lot about that division and the Seahawks.
Between those two Bucks games for Carolina.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Yeah, even Seattle, like, I'm still not sure they could
have lost. They could have lost that game at home
to a grandpa And I'm watching the game and look
if Philip Rivers came on the show. I would say
I think my arm might be stronger than yours, and
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he would probably agree, but he did. Okay, I keep
and you know, after the game, he was really emotional
for the opportunity to be able to come back and play.
Speaker 6 (08:14):
Grateful, I mean grateful running out for warm ups and
all that, and out there from anthem and as the
game just got going, I was just thankful, grateful that
I was out there.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
And it was a blast. It was a blast.
Speaker 6 (08:29):
But obviously the emotion is now our disappointment, right, disappointment.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
You know, I'm this isn't about me.
Speaker 6 (08:35):
You know, we had a team of scrapping like crazy
to trying to stay alive and get in a postseason.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
So obviously we're all disappointed.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Yeah, but he did a pretty good job. But really
the star for the Colts to me was their defense
keeping Seattle in check. In Seattle, but Philip Rivers threw
a touchdown pass and they had a chance to win.
But give credit to Seattle. You end up winning that game.
That's a big game, and then you got the game
coming up on Thursday night against the Rams. But this
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was about comebacks. Six teams Bill's Falcons, Saints, Rams, Seahawks,
Chargers rallied from at least ten down to win in
Week fifteen. That's the second time this season six teams
have rallied to win after trailing by ten or more.
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Business The stat of the Day brought to you by
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(09:46):
thousand passing yards and at least twenty passing touchdowns in
each of their first six seasons. Peyton Manning and Russell Wilson, who.
Speaker 7 (09:56):
Standa day, Stananda day stat of a day, scant outa day.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
This is the stun of the day. And how about
my Raiders. Yes, at the beginning of the year, I
bet Fritzy the Raiders would have a better record than
the Broncos. They were shut out thirty one to nothing.
Now keep in mind, I can go back to Week
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seven when they were shut out thirty one to nothing
by the Chiefs. Yes, they're the first team to be
shut out by the Super Bowl teams from the previous
year since the Colts in nineteen seventy two, and they
were shut out by the identical score. Congratulations, Raiders, Congratulations,
(10:45):
Like Pete Carroll said, no, this team hadn't quit.
Speaker 8 (10:50):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
You know, the scary part is like if they if
he said no, I think we quit. Okay. The fact
that he says no, we didn't quit and you lost
thirty one to nothing, that's the problem.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Yes, Todd, and that was a Super Bowl fifteen rematch.
You got to get up for these kind of games.
I don't understand.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Thank you, Tom. All righty uh seat Now any other
poll questions today?
Speaker 5 (11:11):
Yeah, this is a little off the beaten path, baby,
off the seat path. Which quarterback had the best weekend? Ooh,
I'll give you four options, all right.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Brock party. Okay, it's against the Titans.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
But okay, well you're gonna be able to say that
against all these guys. But these to me are all
guys that needed a big weekend and got it.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Oh oh, so Josh Allen's not on this list.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
Josh Allen is on this list.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
He's the next quarterback. Oh yeah, but he beat the
Patriots in New England. Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean that's
better than Brock Party beating the Titans. Uh Brock Party.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
He needed a big weekend. Okay, okay, Uh, Josh Allen
obviously monster weekend, uh.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
CJ. Stroud.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
He's sort of up and down, especially this third year.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
You know, I don't even know what his number.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
And he gets he gets that sort of label of like, well,
his defense is carrying it. That's true, which may or
may not be true. However, he still had a he
still had a pretty great weekend.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (12:11):
Trevor Lawrence, Oh, maybe had one of the best games
of his career.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Probably right has to be the best game accounted for
six touchdowns. I mean that's yeah, that was great.
Speaker 9 (12:24):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
Those are your four us Okay, Rock Party, Josh Allen,
C J. Stroud, Trevor Lawrence. Maybe there's others if anyone
else would like to populate, I would.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Put Trevor Lawrence in there, because, like, we still want
to see this and the fact that he showed that
he's capable of doing this, you know that that's what
surprised me. I Mean, everybody's played the you know, those
who played the Jets, how many you know quarterbacks have
put up these kind of numbers. We're still waiting to
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see it with the real Trevor Lawrence. Please stand up.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
That's yeah, you keep we keep getting every once in
a while, every couple of weeks, you get a glimpse
of Trevor Lawrence, the one that we expected to see, yeah,
and the one that we all want to see, and
you're like, see, there it is.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
That's the guy.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
If he could just do that every week.
Speaker 10 (13:12):
Hee MVP, he'd be a Hall of Famer. Yeah, yes, Paulie,
I gotta throw Phil Rivers in there. I mean what
people expected from him. People said that would be a disaster.
NFL reporters and analysts said to be a disaster. He
was eighteen for twenty seven and a touchdown, and he
kept them in it. He was only sacked once. He
didn't run for a yard because he didn't want to,
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but he had that. He drove them down just enough
to get a field goal.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
To take the lead. He didn't give it up. Yes, Todd, I.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Would vote for Trevor Lawrence, but I think at least
and also ran oh Nick's four touchdowns over three hundred
yards against Green Bay.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Should be mentioned a shocker. Shocker. It should be in
the mix of the discussion. Yeah, case you're not watching
on Peacock Todd is uh deck down in his broncoscare
han Ako Bronco shirt. Yeah, Now, could I wear that
in lieu of taking a pie to the face? If
I wore that sweater on Friday the entire.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Day seems like an easy way out, you know, in
the spirit of the holidays. I would probably allow it
so it you don't have to get the pie in
the face.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
Because I'm a good guy like that.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
I think that would be a noble gesture.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
I thought you'd doubled down on Friday, wasn't it. I
had the bet with the Wisconsin lady and then you
get it in on that.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
No, it was going to take away my pie if
green Bay won. I didn't double down. He you know,
we had a caller who said, hey, if green Bay wins,
then Dan doesn't take the pie to the face, and
whatever the other wording was with that bet. But I
it was either I was getting a pie or not.
I'm going to get a pie on Friday.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
And when people call in, you know, I'm assuming that
this is true. If you lose, they have to send
in an actual video so we can have fun with it.
With a look at it and see that they actually
took the pie to the face. They can't just say
I got a pie to the face.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
We have people who send them in touch. But I
was much sure everyone, Well, why don't you write him down?
Then why don't you keep track? And are you owed
a pie to the face?
Speaker 3 (15:07):
M yeah, well from her for the Packerd Bronco bet
and us with the twelve and two to two and
twelve Broncos.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Right, No, no, no, you don't get a pie to the face,
do you not? Yeah, Okay, Marvin's got one, and I've
got one. I don't know. Seaton's got to get a
spray tan. We got to clean all this up by
the end of the year. But I'll be happy to
take a pie to the face on Friday, or I'll
wear your Honuka Broncos sweater the entire show. That's pretty wild, Yes.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Didn't we just we used to have someone on social
media that would keep track of these bets. I don't
know if that person's out of business or how accurate
it was, but I remember seeing that on Twitter. If
there was a while, they would literally listing all the
different bets that were.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Going what exactly what kind of business is that that
you keep track of Pie to the face get very wealthy.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
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Speaker 2 (16:34):
Nick Wright, Can City Chiefs fan will join us coming
up a little bit. Patrick Mahomes done for the year
and it will probably impact his twenty twenty six season.
No word yet on Micah Parsons, but it is feared
that he is a torn acl as well. All right,
so the Chiefs are out, Mahomes is out, the Bills
with a great comeback, and the Broncos over the Packers.
(16:57):
The Rams and Alliance was a fun game to watch,
But this is one of those where you hope that
the injuries that you have are not something that is
going to be lasting for the Rams because you got
the game coming up on Thursday night and that is
going to be very important of can we get out
of this without injuries? Now you want to have home
(17:19):
field advantage. I understand all of that, but this time
of the year, you're also hoping can we be healthy
by the end of the year. And that's the tricky part.
Seahawks squeak out a win. Philip Rivers. He did, okay,
he did okay. I mean, I think there's a bigger picture,
and I know that nobody wants to talk about it.
(17:40):
I brought it up last week. Are you trying to
tell me there's no other quarterback on the planet who
could have played for the Colts that they went with
Philip Rivers. Now, I understand the familiarity with the coach,
the system he had played there, but are we running
out of really good quarterbacks? Because I know that there
are times when we go buy it that guy's going
(18:00):
to be a star, that guy's going to be a
star at that position. The amount of money that's made there,
the development that starts in high school, junior high college.
I don't know. I'm watching and now I didn't find
it irresponsible. Ryan Clark of The Mothership former player, I
think he used the word, you know, that's irresponsible to
(18:22):
put him out there. A lot of people thought that
he was going to be a disaster. I just wondered
if he had the arm strength against that team and
they were going to be able to protect him. Now
he doesn't have the arm strength. A lot of short
passes and as Philip said, hey, I couldn't throw the
ball fifty yards ten years ago. What makes you think,
you know, oh he's going to throw it fifty or
(18:44):
he can't throw it fifty. I thought he did a
pretty good job, and a lot of that is just
managing a game. And you know, he took a couple
of shots, he had a touchdown pass and it meant
a lot to him. I mean you can hear the
emotion in his voice to the game.
Speaker 6 (19:02):
Grateful, I mean grateful running out for warm ups and
all that, and out there from anthem and as the
game just got gone, I was just thankful, grateful that.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
I was out there and I was a blast.
Speaker 6 (19:16):
It was a blast, But obviously the mostion is now
our disappointment, right, disappointment.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
You know, I'm this isn't about me, you know.
Speaker 6 (19:23):
We we have a team that was scrapping like crazy,
just trying to stay alive and get in the postseason.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
So obviously we're all disappointed.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
And yes it was about him, but the bigger picture
is about your team. And I thought, I mean, they
needed last second field goal to beat you at home.
The uh Patrick Mahomes injury. Andy Reid spoke about that
after the loss.
Speaker 11 (19:46):
Patrick hurt has left knee. We'll get an MRI tomorrow
or this evening whenever they get him in there didn't
look good, so you guys saw it. We'll just see
where where it goes.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
They were still in the game. Plus, when you get
injured this late in the season, it impacts next season.
And players know when they're hurt. I mean they you
can tell Michael Parsons knew it was serious. Even the
players when Mahomes was down, they knew it was serious.
There's you know, when Aaron Rodgers went down, he knew
(20:22):
when he blew out his achilles. Kevin Durant, you know
when you see these athletes and they'll know better quicker
than anybody else because that feeling boom, it hits you.
And Mahomes knew that this was serious. Michael Parsons knew
it was serious. So you know, I think when we
look at them, and I always look to see how
(20:44):
the players react around them, because that sometimes will tell
you they know the difference. They know when somebody's down
and not getting back up. And you saw that with
Mahomes and he already he's had a bulky knee. I mean,
he's had knee issues. But I wonder does this change
his approach at all, because he does use his legs
(21:05):
far more than you think. And also he gets hit
far more than you think. He might not get sacked,
but he gets hit. And that's what Denver did. Jordan
Love They hit him fifteen times after a while. And
I forget who was on with us who talked about
Aaron Rodgers getting hit to then trying to play differently
(21:29):
to not get hit. I forget who we had on
last week. Was it maybe Steve Young but maybe talking
about how you know, as a younger quarterback, you know
you got to stay in the pocket or you got
to stay in there and you're going to take that hit.
As you get older, you make business decisions. And whoever
it was he was on with us talked about that's
where Aaron Rodgers is now, whereas Green Bay days. I'm
(21:53):
going to stay in here and then all of a sudden,
you're not like I watched Jackson Dart and it is
much much is I like him. I thought he was
going to be a first round pick. I think he's
exciting once again. He's going to be in the blue tent.
He's going to be in the blue tent far more
than he should be. Then you saw that yesterday the
officials sent him to the sidelines. It wasn't the giants,
(22:17):
it was the officials who said, hey, get him out.
And now they're looking for that with Jackson Dark. But
if you're in the blue tent, you're in concussion Protocol
three four, five times a year. I mean, we haven't
brought up to and concussions in a long long time.
And I hope that I didn't jinx in with the
game tonight. But you've got to understand what you can
(22:40):
and can't do. You're young, and hey, I'm going to
take advantage of that. I don't have any problems with
you running. I have a problem with you getting hit
when you run and he wants to take contact and
you're watching and you're going, do you want to have
a ten year career or do you want to have
a five year career? Because I don't think that you
(23:02):
can play the way you're playing and have a ten
year career.
Speaker 10 (23:05):
Yeah, Pauline, I just went back and looked at the
Dart hit yesterday. He's right by the goal line. He
puts his head down in the two defenders, and when
he's on the ground, he stays down there a second.
He asks for a hand up, and when he gets up,
he does the headshake, and the officials two feet away
sends him right over the sideline.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
When you see the shake, that's when that's like, damn,
I got stars, Bell's ringing cobwebs and you're playing a
position where you gotta have you got to be sharp, acute,
all right, pull question for a second hour of the
program is going to be what Seaton?
Speaker 5 (23:44):
Yeah, man, that's tough. That's a lot of concussions for
that kid.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Yeah, cheers, yeahs.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
Yeah, Let's see we got two up there right now.
NFL playoff related which team is more surprising to currently
be out of the playoffs, the Ravens or the Lions.
Lions have seventy five percent of that vote, and then
who will make the playoffs or Ravens. That one's a
lot closer. Fifty two percent have the Ravens.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
And then I don't know. Can TJ Watt play after
having a collapse or punctured lung because that came out
and I'm like, wait a minute, he went in for
treatment and came out with a punctured lung. Yeah, Paula.
Speaker 10 (24:17):
According to jj Watt, TJ had successful surgery to stabilize
a partially collapsed lung. No details on the recovery timeline,
but when you hear timeline, it doesn't.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
See Oh my god.
Speaker 10 (24:28):
By the way, JJ Watt wants to play with no lungs.
Remember that two thousand and seven, I think it was
zero lungs.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Didn't need them. Tyler and Illinois, Hi, Tyler, what's on
your mind today? Hey?
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Dan?
Speaker 12 (24:42):
Five ten?
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Dad bod two oh five?
Speaker 12 (24:47):
Hey, I was curious about your relationship as far as
those with your insiders. Is this a just an a
trading of information? Do you have it where you guys
are buying each other dinner, or you can go as
far as having anybody on your play roll as far
as getting information back and forth to each other.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
No, no, there's no quid pro quo. Haven't bought dinners.
If I see them, it's just a casual conversation. But no,
I'm not buying gifts for people. I've known a couple
of these sources for over thirty years and this went
(25:30):
back to the Sports Center days, and now all I ask,
and this can be people who have been on the air,
or even they're not on the show. It just keep
me honest on something, give me a heads up if
I'm going in the right direction. So all I'm doing
is protecting you know, what I've built up for forty years.
I just want to make sure that what I get
(25:51):
is right and I can give it to you. But
you know, these people aren't looking for any kind of
attribution there. They just they listened to the show and
that's all they're doing is giving me information. Now, it's
not always correct, but it does come from a good
place of people that I've trusted for a long long time.
(26:12):
And I'm very lucky to have those kind of people
in my life. Who will look out for me? You know,
information on the Big Ten or information on Michigan. Go
down the list of things. You know, We've had a
lot of success with a lot of college football information.
Used to be, I had a ton of baseball information,
(26:35):
broke stories with baseball NBA. But you know, once again,
people who I have trusted, some have gotten out of
the business, some have retired. Well, that kind of goes
along with cultivating, constantly cultivating sources. Somebody who can tell
you something. Somebody's willing to tell you something, and the
(26:56):
benefit the payoff is I'm able to relay that to you. No,
I'm not getting Christmas gifts or you know, sending chocolates
to teams, as some insiders do off in baskets. Yeah,
we're not doing that. Zack and Knoxville. Good morning, Zach.
What's on your mind today?
Speaker 8 (27:13):
Adp thanks for taking my call. I just want to
piggyback on the diego Pavia stuck and he was asked before,
and I think all the candidates were who's the best
college football player in history?
Speaker 12 (27:27):
And he set himself and I just.
Speaker 8 (27:29):
Wanted to remind him that Johnny Manziel rushed for thirty
eight more yards and three more touchdowns than Jeremiah loved
did in his Heisman season. And I also have a
poll question. If you think Diego Pavia within the next
three years, do you think that he will start a
(27:53):
game in the NFL or fight Jake Paul?
Speaker 2 (27:57):
That all one. I don't know any information about Diego
and the NFL because the people I trust they're not
doing that right now, and it would be just conjecture.
You know, I don't want to do that because I
don't know that. The only thing I heard from in
one of my sources talked about Fernando Mendoza didn't do
(28:21):
anything great, but he didn't have weaknesses, and you know,
this a pocket quarterback. So that's the only analysis I
guess if you want to factor that in of what
I don't know. It's only a couple of sentences because
I was just curious. I watch him and I go, okay,
he's good. I mean, it could be like Sam Bradford,
(28:42):
like okay, but I don't know if he's great. You know,
Dante Moore could turn out to be a better quarterback.
Sellers could turn out. I mean, you know, you don't
know Sellers is coming back to South Carolina.
Speaker 9 (28:56):
Yes, Mark, Yeah, with Pavia in those this almost feels
like a cam Ward Shadoor Sanders situation where somebody might
be the better quarterback, but the other person is a
lightning rod. He's a star, he gets more clicks. It
feels like that type of situation.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Yeah, And you know you're watching cam Ward yesterday. He
has a couple of plays. It's not a good team.
Shador didn't look good at all against the Bears. Give
the Bears credit though. I mean the Bears, you know,
dominated that game and a lot of takeaways there. You know,
Shador is looking like a rookie quarterback. There are going
(29:33):
to be moments, but right now he's not a good quarterback.
But there's potential there. And he's got three more games.
Maybe maybe you see something, they see something where they go,
you know what, let's keep him, Yeah, Pauline. Yeah, And
they have draft picks.
Speaker 10 (29:48):
It'd be interesting that they try to build their roster
and then bring in a quarterback instead the other way around,
which the Browns usually go for the quarterback and hopefully
the roster is decent.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Well, there was speculation, and I think I brought to
people's attention that they could trade Shador, But what are
you getting in return? And are they going to take
a quarterback? Are you showcasing him that maybe somebody would
trade for him. I don't know if people look at
him as his starting quarterback, but he is now he's
gotten an opportunity. This is what all the analyst wanted.
(30:20):
Everybody who was you know, pro Dion pro Shador. Oh,
give him a chance first team. Let's see. Okay, he's
getting that. He's going to give you some highlights. That's
where you're misled. Watch somebody an entire game, you'll get
a real sense of just how good they are. But
we're in a highlight driven world where it's like, man,
(30:43):
that guy look great, and you go, he had four
really good throws? What about the other sixteen that he had.
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(31:05):
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What's Right with Nick Right on YouTube wherever you get
your podcast. What was the overall feeling going into yesterday's game.
Speaker 13 (31:19):
Well, I'm not answering that question. To start with, Dan, First,
I'm going to say this, I have found out what
it takes to get a long awaited return invite after
months off the show, and evidently it's buying you a
very expensive bottle of wine, multiple after dinner drinks and
(31:40):
dinner and my football team having the worst moment of
the decade. So glad to be back under such glorious circumstances, Dan,
what was your question? You know what was my mood?
Speaker 2 (31:56):
The dinner didn't have any impact on bringing you back.
It was really about the Chiefs dying.
Speaker 13 (32:02):
Yeah, you know what, I thought that might have been
the case, And shout out to Fritzy who just really
has created his job. But honestly, I'm not gonna try
to be ablest in any way, but might just have
a little thing off where I mean. I think the
CBS was cutting to Mahomes hobbling into the locker room
(32:26):
when I got the text, and there was just a
cursory Sorry, today's tough for you. Are you available tomorrow? Listen?
My mood yesterday was going into the game that if
they won, I thought they had a very good chance
of making the playoffs because I thought that sports media
(32:47):
in general didn't do it. They made it. The Chiefs
path the playoffs going into yesterday seem very complicated when
it wasn't. It was simply the Colts with the grandfather
playing quarterback, lose at least twice against a brutal schedule,
and if the Chiefs went out and the Chargers lose
to Denver in Week eighteen, plus one other game to
(33:07):
either Houston or the Cowboys, and I was like, well,
all those things are super doable once the game got going,
when the only reason I am not catatonic today is
because to me, the Chiefs season ended on the Chargers
drive before halftime, when they got that touchdown with forty
(33:30):
seconds left, because that was the seventh different, distinct instance
this season where the Chiefs showed you they're just not
a championship caliber team. There have been so many times
this year that Chiefs teams of the past stand up
and make the big moments. I've compared them to the
(33:52):
great tennis player that knows there's only four or five
points that actually will decide this match, and that's when
I'll be a my best. And the Chiefs team last
year and the years past always were at their best there.
This year they were the opposite. So I was resigned
to the loss really and that even Okay, maybe they'll
win this game, but they're not going to go on
(34:15):
any type of run. The Patrick injury, it is obviously
devastating for him for the team. You know, was that
the last moments with he and Kelsey on the field together.
I would I don't know that for sure, but it
certainly is more than on the board. It's probably likely
(34:36):
all of that. But I I believe in sports gods,
and I believe in that history, you know, repeats itself
in sports a lot. And I've said more times than
I can count that in year seven, Tom Brady was
going for Super Bowl four, walked onto the knowing, if
(35:01):
I win this game, we are the greatest team of
all time. And the next year they lost that game,
and the next year he blew out his knee. Year seven,
Patrick Mahomes was going for Super Bowl four, walked onto
the field knowing, if we win this game, we're the
greatest team of all time. And then what I'd been
saying is and he didn't blow out his knee. But
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they've had the season from hell, and now he also
blew out his knee, and so it just is what
it is. Dan Oh, I wish I could be more positive,
but it sucks, just really sucks. It's sports. It happens.
Packer fans are almost just as sick like Packer fans
are sick in a different way today, and so because
they don't, I think this somehow feels worse if the
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Chiefs went into that game ten and three, then six
and seven, if you. And that's how Packers fans feel
this morning. Like man, this season is a real chance.
But I just feel awful for Patrick and for the guy.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
The Chiefs missed the playoffs because.
Speaker 13 (36:04):
They deserve to. They a combination of things, man, it
is they the playing in three straight Super Bowls and
playing in five of the last six and seven straight
conference championship games. The more than extra season of football
(36:25):
that they have played caught up to them to a degree.
They were not great. In fact, they were awful, and
as I said, those winning moments, those little things that
determined so many pro football games. Patrick, for some reason
this year was incredibly shaky on deep passes, which allowed
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the defense to constrict and the progression of the young
receivers did not happen the way I thought it would.
They had no running game other than Patrick whatsoever. And
they couldn't get a pass rush all. And by the way,
the special teams weren't that good. So like you add
all that up, that's a bad team. And I there
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were moments this year, like when Baltimore looked like a
good team, they housed them. When the Lions are a
good team, just probably not good enough, they housed them.
But for some reason after the bye, they played poorly
in every single game, even the one game they have
won post by the Colts game, they're down eleven in
(37:35):
the fourth quarter, like it took a miracle to get
back in that they just weren't good enough. Like this
is shout out to Jim Kelly. This is why it's
so hard to make four straight Super Bowls, I suppose.
And they just weren't able to get over the hump
at any point this year.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Andy Reid's future is what.
Speaker 13 (37:55):
Head coach of the Kansas City Chiefs like that that
is I am. There are some Chiefs fans that wish
it were different. There's a name for those people.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Idiots.
Speaker 13 (38:05):
Listen, I think Andy, there are some moments this year,
Andy would like back and you know did they have?
They at times gotten spoiled by Patrick's ability to make
the most out of maybe a scheme that has gotten
a little stale ish. Sure, but Andy Reid is one
(38:30):
of the three greatest coaches in the history of the
sport and is currently, as we sit here today, the
three time defending AFC champion coach. Like, now, would I
like to see some updates to the offense schematically?
Speaker 4 (38:46):
Sure?
Speaker 13 (38:47):
Am I gonna probably put an unfair level of blame
on Matt and aagey maybe, But Andy Reid's the head
coach of the Kansas City Chiefs until he doesn't want
to be in my.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
Eyes, you start to look at the running game or
lack thereof the offensive line. Patrick takes a lot of hits,
too many second in the league in hits. Now, I
know that he does try to extend plays the receivers.
We waited Kelsey. He looks like he's laboring out there,
not having that Chris Jones impactful season. So it felt
(39:22):
like it all kind of just yeah, yeah, get.
Speaker 13 (39:27):
I say something. Listen, last year, the offensive line being
a reason the offense wasn't explosive was not an excuse.
It was an explanation. I want to say something about
because the Chiefs should not spend draft resources this year
on the offensive line. They have an all pro center,
(39:47):
they have an all pro right guard. The right guard
was out injured yesterday. The left guard is the kid
they drafted to play tackle in the second round two
years ago. He hasn't been wasn't good at tackle. He
was very solid at left guard this year. And the
left tackle Josh Simmons again, he was out with a
personal matter for a month, and then a few weeks
(40:07):
ago he got his wrists broken by a teammate accidentally
trying to help him on a block, so he's been out.
When he was out there, he was as good as
any rookie tackle in football this year. That's four or
fifths of your offensive line. And the right tackles ben
Juwan Taylor, who again he was hurt yesterday. In the
last couple of weeks, he's probably gone because of cap reasons.
(40:29):
But the offensive line is not a problem. The offensive
line has been a PROBA in the last two weeks
because they were down of their top eight offensive linemen.
They were down five of them. Like the injuries were
the problem. But the Patrick's never had a thousand yard rusher,
a thousand yard rusher never, and they they spent a
first round pick on Clyde Edwards Hilaire after winning the
(40:50):
first Super Bowl and seem almost gun shy to spend
any resources at that position since then. But no, that
must be addressed, and I think it will be addressed
this offseason.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
I'm talking to Nick Wright, host of First Things First,
and you can watch that every afternoon Monday through Friday
on Fox Sports one. What's Right with Nick right on
YouTube wherever you get your podcast. Best team in the
AFC moving forward is who.
Speaker 13 (41:19):
I mean the best team. The team that has earned
that right now distinction is the Broncos. But the team
de beats the Bills. And this is this is not
me trying to heap extra pressure on Josh Allen. This is,
(41:40):
though a very matter of fact point, which is, if
not now win for Josh Allen. Since Josh Allen's been
a great player, either Patrick Mahomes or Joe Burrow have
knocked him out of the playoffs every single year Patrick
four times. Joe wants not in the playoffs. The other
(42:02):
big time you know, Hall of Fame caliber quarterback that's
been in the playoffs all of those years or most
of them is Lamar. That team yesterday, notwithstanding, is broken.
He has had no one in the division to deal with,
and now he does have a real team in the
division in the Patriots moving forward. But I think it's
(42:24):
I think it would reasona believe that Drake May this
as good as Drake May is, this is the worst
Drake May will be over the next five years, because
he's just gonna get better. This has to be the
Bill's moment to finally get to a super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
It feels like Josh Allen's making a late charge here
for MVP.
Speaker 13 (42:44):
Yeah, I listen, I hope not in this regard. I
hope we don't turn MVP into Player of the Month
for December like Matthews, and there has been too much
of that recently, where the odds shift dramatically in these
late season games. Matthew Stafford's been the MVP of this
(43:07):
league basically wired to wire. And as the Matthew Stafford's
had one bad game this year, Josh has had like
four really grizzly games. You can say that this that
Josh is with Mahomes injured the best player in the league.
That's fine. I do think he is the second best
(43:31):
quarterback in the league over a large sample. But Matthew
Stafford's been the MVP of the league. And by the way,
the Rams they just keep winning. And they play a
Thursday night game that they're gonna play without Devontae Adams
against Seattle that if they lose, they are staring at
a wild card. Like, they win that game, they're gonna
(43:53):
be the one seed in the huge favorites. They lose
and they're, you know, on the road in Week one
of the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
Yeah, that's what I wonder what this standalone game is
going to do because it does impact people's thoughts, good
or bad with a team or a player. And if
the Rams would happen to lose that game, yeah, and
then they would go. It just feels like there is
this ground swell.
Speaker 4 (44:18):
Now.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
I got to give Josh Allen credit for closing these
games in the month of December, the hardest games, you know,
to close with the pressure on him and Drake May.
If he had won yesterday, then I think we have
a legitimate two man battle there between Drake May and
Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 13 (44:36):
No, I agree that, and it feels like it's been
between May and Stafford. May was the favorite two weeks
ago when Stafford had the one bad game he's had
this year, but then Drake had a bye, got penalized
for having a bye, and then then Stafford was excellent
once again. I know, I think the standalone game, absolutely
(44:57):
they do have a despair impact on the award. But
here's the other thing. For Stafford. If he went like
he has more on the line for this MVP than
any player in recent memory in this regard, no matter
what happens in this postseason, if he wins MVP Dan,
(45:19):
he's a Hall of Famer. Like if he has a
Super Bowl championship plus the league MVP, he's just gonna
be a Hall of Famer. Now, if he doesn't win
MVP and they win the championship, then he'll be a
Hall of Famer that way as well. But if somehow
Allen runs him down for MVP and they get clipped
in a brutal NFC playoffs, then his Hall of Fame
(45:42):
resume becomes very thin in a way that I don't
necessarily think is fair. But I think he's only like
a two time pro bowler has never you know, come
close to an MVP like, but so he has, he
wins MVP and he's a Hall of Famer, which will
be pretty sick.
Speaker 2 (45:59):
But the Lions get the blame for all of that,
not Stafford.
Speaker 13 (46:04):
Yes they do, but it is it's going to get.
One of the reasons I think Philip Rivers coming back
was beneficial for him was I think it raises his
chances of being a Hall of Famer because there's about
to be this quarterback kind of logjam where Breeze is
(46:27):
gonna get in this year, so Rivers will have to wait.
Eli's already waiting. In two years, Brady comes available, and
by resetting the clock, there's about to be this quarterback
kind of gap of Hall of Fame cal it'll just
be Rivers, who's eligible in five years, and Rogers and
(46:48):
there's not going to be anybody else in the three
or four years that follow because think about it, who
are the Hall of Fame caliber quarterbacks playing right now?
None of them are old gay except for Rogers, so
that you know, like the Dak Stafford is the one
that I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
What about Russell Wilson.
Speaker 13 (47:11):
Man, he's gonna be an interesting case.
Speaker 2 (47:15):
I you know this is coud. You can make a
case more for Russell than Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 13 (47:20):
Correct. Oh, as we sit here today, Russell has a
stronger case, which is why I'm saying if Stafford wins MVP.
If Stafford wins MVP, then you have just enough of
the credentials to go along with the eye test that
people have always loved.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
Thanks again for dinner and no problem.
Speaker 13 (47:43):
Wow, I'm really somehow I I philibustered about matt Stafford's
Hall of Fame chances to avoid the fall of the Chiefs.
I don't know if that's what you brought me on for,
but I I gotta say I was impressed by myself there.
Speaker 2 (47:57):
No, you philibustered about the Chiefs for at least ten minutes.
Then we brought it. Then we brought it to you
know what, what the country would be interested in, and
that's the m v P with Matthew Stafford. But once again,
it was just a thank you for dinner. It was great,
great conn.
Speaker 13 (48:13):
From what do I have to do to qualify to
get one of the blurry signed photos behind you?
Speaker 2 (48:22):
Do you mean have one up? Yeah? Yeah, send it
to me.
Speaker 13 (48:26):
Oh yeah, wow, okay, me next to Michaels. What a
what a dream?
Speaker 2 (48:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 13 (48:34):
Okay, all right, I'm.
Speaker 10 (48:35):
Sitting that Wait what next to al Michaels just yet
pumped the brakes a little.
Speaker 13 (48:43):
Just there's not many openings that, Paulie.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
Yes, that's part of the collective. I got a whole
man cave here, Nick, Okay, maybe maybe you know what,
maybe I'll create a shrine. You believe in miracles, Maybe
a shrine for you.
Speaker 13 (48:59):
I'll see you guys.
Speaker 2 (49:00):
All right, thanks again. That's Nick, right,
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