December 18, 2025 • 47 mins
DP and the Danettes react to Tua Tagovailoa being benched by the Dolphins. Did Travis Kelce hint at retirement on his podcast? Pro Football Hall of Fame wide receiver Michael Irvin reminisces on the party lifestyle surrounding the Cowboys in the '90s, and notes that the pressure on Josh Allen has never been higher in a wide-open AFC.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Big game tonight feels too big for Thursday Night. You know,
I don't know anybody could come out and say that
it's a game that's too big for Thursday night Seahawks. Yes,
you just did. I know. But I'm I'm just flowing.
I'm doing a flow, Dan, three to two. Gangs all
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here ready, Rams at the Seahawks. It's a game that's
too big for Thursday night. Rams are getting one and
a half over under is forty two and a half
for entertainment purposes only?
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Yes, Paul, you know these standalone games, Dan, is this
gonna be? Is this gonna be a good night or
a bad night for Sam Darnold reception.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Wines, Speaking of which, the Seahawks look dangerous. They look
like a team built to play in Januyuary, maybe February.
You got playmakers, you got a really good defense. The
question mark is Sam Darnol. Now, his resurgence has been
(01:10):
a great story. Now he had the resurgence with the Vikings,
He's played well with Seattle, and he is a franchise quarterback.
But you got gaudy numbers last season, four thousand yards
thirty five touchdowns. Vikings went fourteen and three, but then
his biggest moments brought out his worst football. He's ozeroed
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three in big games, high stakes games. You got week
eighteen against Detroit the divisional title on the line, nine points,
last year's wild card, same story, and then earlier this
year against the Rams, four interceptions in a twenty one
nineteen loss. So Sam is a franchise quarterback. But you
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know the problem is lights get bright and then all
of a sudden, personalities change. And this is a regular
season game. I expect Sam Darnold to play well. It's
the postseason that that's where you have the question marks here,
and Sam does have those question marks attached to him,
(02:12):
and you want to be a you know, keep in mind,
Philip Rivers quarterback rating prior to the last five minutes
of the game was better than Sam Donald's in that
Colt's narrow loss to Seattle that shouldn't happen at home. Now,
the Colts defense did play really well to keep them
in this game. But if you're Seattle, the defense did
(02:36):
the job, but you got to have the offense doing
you know, few more touchdowns in there. That was what
was I think lost in that game. Yeah, Philip Rivers played, Okay,
Sam Donald, that offense didn't do much, and I think
that's where you start to go, Okay, are you ready
to go in these big moments? And you expect this
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to be a very tight game like the first game was,
and they could have won the game even with four
interceptions by Sam Darnold the last time these two teams met,
but that'll be coming up tonight as the Rams are
one and a half point underdogs over under his forty
two and a half to a tongue of iloa benched,
but far more than that, he was deactivated. So he's
(03:21):
the third, he's the emergency quarterback. You're going to have
Quinn Ewers and you're going to have Zach Wilson in there.
Here's the Dolphins head coach on Mike McDaniel talking about
what went wrong for Tua this season.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Playing quarterback and being a starting quarterback and then being
a franchise quarterback. These are all things that are very complex.
I think this is a player that his MO had
been growth and you know, just exceptional learner and he's
always evolving. You know, there's compounding variables that he can't
(04:00):
just pinpoint one or two things. I still believe that
his growth can continue, but you know, I couldn't responsibly
play this next game when I thought what the team
needed was available.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Oh boy, there's a lot to decipher there, because it
felt like Mike McDaniel kept his job this season after
they fired their GM because of his relationship and development
of Tua. Now he's saying that, in fairness to the team,
I'm going to bench and he's going to be my
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third string quarterback and you owe him a lot of money.
I don't know if they're willing to admit that maybe
this is a Russell Wilson Denver Bronco type situation, and
it feels like yesterday that's sort of what they did.
But I mean russ leaving Seattle to go to Denver,
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he's probably it was ten years older than Tua to it.
You know, you still see him when he's got Tyreek
Hill and Jayalen Wattall and you go and they got
a really good running game. He was just the weak link.
And I don't think his arm is threatening. It's you know,
it's threatening. If I throw it to Tyreek Hill, I
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throw at seven yards and he takes it seventy and
you get credit for a seventy seven yard touchdown. You
got to throw out to the numbers. I mean, this
is what Philip Rivers is going to find out again
this week against the Niners, is hey, you can have
over the middle. I mean, we're going to force you
to throw out to the numbers. You're not going to
get over the middle. We're going to force you out
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to the numbers. That's where these quarterbacks make their living.
Can you throw to the numbers? And I don't think
Tua can do that? Do that and be threatening. He
can throw it over the middle, dink and dunk, those
kinds of things, But can you throw to the numbers.
That's what you want to see. If you're a defensive back,
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they're going to be like Philip Rivers, let me see
if you can throw that pass out there in the flats,
because I don't think you can. And two of the
same way. Now, it's not all on him, but that's
where you start when you're spending fifty million dollars on somebody.
Tyreek Hill is gone. Now you start to look at
what is the future. And they're going to find out
if quin Ewers can play. We already know sort of
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what Zach Wilson is, but let's see what Quinn Eewers does.
Maybe it gives the team a little bit of a spark.
You could use it, and you're facing a team that
could use his spark too, the Cincinnati Bengals. Because man,
Joe Burrow, somebody's got to buy him an ice cream
cone or something, because he seems miserable and he yesterday
(06:50):
was asked about continuing to play football.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
I like play football for the same reasons that I
wanted to push to comeback from injury, some reasons I
want to play. This week, it feels like everything everybody's
trying to do everything in their power to make me
not play football, and I feel like I'm fighting it,
like fighting everybody else.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
I just want to I just want to play ball.
Speaker 6 (07:12):
That's all I want to do.
Speaker 7 (07:13):
Is there any world in your mind where you're not
the quarterback of the Bengals next year.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
I can't see that.
Speaker 7 (07:19):
No, you ever both thought about the possibility of not
being the quarterback here during your career, or you think
about a lot of things.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Okay, I mean he's got to say those things, but
still I want to see it on the field. I
mean he can he can say something in a press conference,
he can be despondent, he can say something after a loss.
You got embarrassed by the Ravens. That's that's what I
want to say, Like, why are you bad on offense?
(07:46):
You're back, you vouch for your receivers, they got paid,
you got shut out. That's what's kind of alarming here. Yeah, Okay,
I'm twenty nine. I'm not having fun of Eddie. Injuries
were not good. Okay. You know he fought back after
the toe injury, took off the cast himself. I mean,
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he wanted to play and then all of a sudden,
maybe we just caught him at the wrong time. You know,
you start to think I'm twenty nine. You know, Mahomes
is out, Buffalo's not that good, Pittsburgh's not that good.
Boltemore's not that good. Yeah, Denver, but they're you know,
inexperienced Chargers. Okay, you have our chance. But that's why
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when people say, oh, they'll get back, tell them to
be quiet, because they're all these sports are littered with. Well,
don't get back. The Bengals aren't going back to the
Super Bowl, not anytime soon. And maybe not in Joe
Burrow's career, And you wonder does he want to stay
in Cincinnati even though they gave him total autonomy. It
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felt like, hey, I want Trey Hendrickson and resigned, Okay,
I want t Higgins all right, Jamar is going to
get his country. Okay, out all those things done, check
check check chen and then you get blown out by
the Ravens at home, a team you beat Thanksgiving Night.
That's the bigger picture is what is wrong with Cincinnati
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because they should still be at least threatening the betting
line in that game against Miami, the Bengals, they are
favored by four and a half. In Miami, it was
two and a half. So maybe maybe Joe's in a
better mood. Yeah, it sounds like the biggest problem in
Cincinnati is the front office. Then if Joe Burrow is
the one making all the decisions, fire all those people,
(09:38):
get rid of the GM, he clearly doesn't do anything.
Joe Burrow is the one that's like, no, I said, son,
this guy, this guy, this guy, this guy. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Pauling Joe Burrow feels like a guy who was a
billionaire and now loses most of his money and has
to live like a normal life. He went from Heisman,
what sixty touchdowns at LSU, number one pick was it?
His second year in Cincinnati. He makes a super Bowl
and comes a block away from winning it. He would
had a three or four year run where he was
dubbed the next great quarterback. And now he's living like
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a civilian or getting hurt, getting banged up, losing games.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
He's not used to this. But I just don't understand.
He's healthy. You got your now Higgins has been out
with the concussion. But you know, I mean, Joe was
healthy ish. It's just, man, you start to hear and
it just felt like it was a little bit more.
I was surprised with the honesty with when you know,
when he had that press conference a couple of weeks ago.
(10:32):
But then I thought, okay, you know, you have a
bad day and all right, play play the season out,
let's see. And then all of a sudden, you play
against the raven This is a game you gotta win.
And I think those two interceptions against Buffalo that changed
that game, changed the Bengals any hopes of trying to
make the playoffs. And it just felt like Joe took
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that so personally they were a better team than Buffalo.
Speaker 8 (11:01):
Yeah, you got the same record as the Saints. Yeah,
that's not the plan.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
I don't have to say it.
Speaker 8 (11:06):
If you're your Joe Burrow, no offense in New Orleans, but
you're the if you're Joe Burrow, and that's how we're
playing that.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Well, hell no.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Do you think the Saints say, hey, man, we got
the same record as the Bengals as opposed to the Bengals. Man,
we have the same record as the same.
Speaker 8 (11:22):
Possible pole question best four and ten team this season
Commander's Bengals Saints other question mark m.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Yeah, based on the Hopometer, which we coined in twenty
twenty three, the Saints are actually quite hopeful. They may
have found their quarterback on the cheap the hopometer.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Yeah, so two was benched and deactivated, and uh so,
Quinn Yewers come on down. No banner for the Knicks.
I still want to wait and see on this the commissioner.
You know, when we had Reggie Miller on yesterday and
I said, rech Lakers put up a banner like they
don't put up a cup banner. He said, why not?
(12:04):
I said, do you think the commissioner encouraged them to
put up a banner once again, if if we're going
to buy into it, we have to believe the players
are buying into it like it means something. Now it
doesn't mean anything to us. I think it meant something
to the Spurs to play in a big game and be,
you know, a focal point, and they played really well.
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But putting up a banner. The Knicks should be in
the NBA finals this year, that's how good they are.
I'm not surprised they won, you know, the banner or
the cup? And now do you have a banner? I
put the banner at my practice facility. You know, they
want to they want to have a like a kind
of ceremony on Friday for the fans to be like,
(12:50):
I don't know if Ben Stiller and Spike Lee or
Timothy Chaloney are gonna be going crazy like, yes, that's
the that's the first of another banner that's coming in here. Yes, Todd.
Speaker 9 (13:03):
But if the Knicks suddenly reversed course and they say,
you know, come to think of it, we will put
it up. It's gonna be blatant that the NBA forced it,
or well, the Knicks even care, and will Adam Silver
even care? The bottom line is I got them to
put the banner up. I don't even if they know
that I forced the team to do it. That's my
question to you is, well, does Adam Silver care if
he forces them to do it and that's the reason
the banner's up there.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Well, you know, you get through one day of you know,
bad press and then the banner stays up there. But you,
I mean, you're trying to make something happen and you're
telling us, man, you're crazy to not buy into the cup, Like, no, hey,
look at what we did to the floors. Don't they
look cool? Yeah, it's still just a basketball game in December.
Speaker 9 (13:51):
Yeah, Martha, but you acting like the Knicks of the
Lakers where they have tons of championship banners. The Knicks
have division title banners up at the garden, so they
can't be like, oh, you know what, we only celebrate
the big championship one. You don't have two banners. You
have a bunch of division title banners up there. Yeah,
there's plenty of room up there, tons. Yeah, they got
(14:12):
Harry Styles and Billy Joel and Fish banners up there too.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
What's Harry Styles in there for selling out, Like I
think so shows or something more than that.
Speaker 9 (14:22):
He's about like thirteen days in a row or something.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Wait, you get a banner?
Speaker 9 (14:26):
Yes, Billy Joel has a banner.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Well, Billy Joel deserves one.
Speaker 9 (14:30):
Fish has a banner, of course, and Harry Styles has
a banner. Fish, oh Fish, New Year's Eve at the Garden.
That is true, every single every single okay, Okay, how
many musicians? How many bands have banners?
Speaker 6 (14:44):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (14:44):
No in sports arenas?
Speaker 9 (14:46):
Oh that question worth?
Speaker 6 (14:48):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Yes? Does Coldplay get a banner after the Coldplay cam
caught that couple?
Speaker 6 (14:58):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Like, I don't know what what constitutes we're going to
have a banner up there?
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Maybe like where you play years and years or a
long run at a certain venue.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Okay, I don't know how many other bands have banners?
Speaker 8 (15:12):
Yes, he doing fifteen nights at the Garden for Harry Styles.
That's a hell of a run.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Okay. But is that banner worthy? I think it is,
and I think it is. What other places? Well, it's
the Garden too, Yes, Mark.
Speaker 9 (15:28):
Jay Z has a banner up in Barkley Center.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Wow, nobody goes there so they wouldn't see it.
Speaker 9 (15:34):
I think he sold it out. He opened up Barkley
Center and he got a banner. He sold out maybe
the first five.
Speaker 8 (15:39):
Wasn't he a part time owner of the j J
Z fat that's kind of weak, like Dan, like, you're
gonna hang a banner and here if you look, I
don't know when he shows, Dan Patrick did here.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Wow, that's amazing. Yeah, yeah, good point. Okay, Then over
the Emmy once again. It's a game too big for
Thursday night. It's the Rams and the Seahawks. That's how
we got started today, Todd.
Speaker 6 (16:05):
We did.
Speaker 9 (16:05):
And I jumped in on you.
Speaker 6 (16:06):
Yeah. Second, I was a little rude.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
I should have wasn't even a good line. Just raise
your hand, That's what I should have done.
Speaker 9 (16:12):
Let's you through your opening thing. And I should have
cut my mouth shut.
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Speaker 9 (16:55):
Comment away.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
I didn't get an update on the poll results from
the first hour seat and we do that. And do
we have a new pole question for hour two?
Speaker 6 (17:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (17:03):
We just got an interesting one here from Paul based
off some of the discussions we've had in a guest
we have coming up. Uh, who would you most have
wanted to kick it with?
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Kick it? Yes?
Speaker 8 (17:16):
Who would you most have wanted to kick it with?
Aka Party, led Zeppelin in the seventies, Motley Crue in
the eighties, or Michael Irvin in the nineties.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (17:27):
The fair comparison.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Wow, I would say, I have to look at what
are the chances I could die like high with all
of them and then work my way back. I don't
know how big a partiers led Zeppelin was. I know
John Bonham, the drummer was, but I don't know if
paigeyet House Are you kidding me?
Speaker 8 (17:51):
I like some of the most notorious party yers of
all time.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Yeah, I kind of assumed I didn't. Wasn't there for.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Les Well Motley Crue. You know. I I've talked to
somebody who actually stayed with them for a night. It
took him a week to recover, but he did. He
partied with them. Uh, they seemed to They didn't get
cheated Mike. Mike did well. Mike had fun in the
White House and wherever else. I don't think he discriminated.
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But do you put the stones in there?
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Stop me?
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Oh when they were in the South of France doing
Exile on Main Street that they had to wake up
members of the band to play on an album.
Speaker 8 (18:34):
It doesn't sound like fun to me. Gotta admit South
of France sounds awesome. A bunch of dudes strung out
trying to make a record, though not it. Yeah, well,
Heroin will do that. Well. Wed sours the party quickly.
Gota admit.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Heroin always wins. You know, Heroin's undefeated. I would probably
want to party with Zeppelin just because it's Zeppelin, you know,
one of my favorite bands of all time.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Yeah, Paul, I was gonna throw guns and roses in there,
but I thought I want to go decade.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
By then they're guns and posers.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Oh really, Oh, I think they got after it.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
I don't know, they seemed like they were like, oh,
we gotta have Jack Daniels here backstage because Keith Richards did.
Yeh see, I'm going with the Playmaker. I want to
hang with Michael.
Speaker 8 (19:22):
Yeah, pre social media nineties was kind of my era.
Speaker 6 (19:25):
So I.
Speaker 8 (19:27):
Would have enjoyed hanging with the Playmaker.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
All right. I would probably say Zeppelin just to say
that I partied with Zeppelin.
Speaker 9 (19:36):
Yes, mart Yeah, I'm going with the Playmaker too. He
did all that and won Super Bowl. That wasn't stopping him,
and by all accounts, he was the leader of the Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Yeah. Well, I'd say t Roy was.
Speaker 9 (19:50):
He might have just been the quarterback, yeah, but he was.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Still he was. He was the guy who didn't go out.
I mean, just the fact that he was. Sandra Bullock
I think wanted to go out with him. I don't
know if Troy ever talked about I think I brought
it up to him. I think he brushed it off quickly.
I think, so, yeah, yeah, I think you know, you're
the quarterback of the Cowboys. I mean that fixes everything.
(20:16):
Normally yes, yes, Mart.
Speaker 9 (20:17):
But who's the rest of the cowboys following though? What
do you mean they were going to Mikero Order's house.
They weren't hanging out with t Roy.
Speaker 6 (20:25):
No.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
I think t Roy was probably just doing damage by himself. No,
he was single and mangling. But you know Sandra Bullock
in the nineties, Sandra Bullock from Speed. All of a sudden,
t Roy, he's eluding the rush apparently.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Uh, those were the days. You can't get away with
that stuff now, all right, eight seven seven to three
d P show email address Dpadanpatrick dot com, Twitter handled
TP show. A lot of college football coming up this weekend.
Let me give you a let me give you the menu.
So we got college football. You got Thursday night football.
But then you have the U Xbox Bowl Missouri State
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and Arkansas State, the Myrtle Beach Bowl, Kennesas State and
Western Michigan, the Gas Barrello Bowl Memphis against NC State.
You have Alabama, Oklahoma, Miami, Texas A and m Tulane, Ole,
miss James Madison and Oregon. It's a lot of football
that's just the college slate. And then you know the
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game's uh NFL games you got tonight and then you're
gonna have a game on Saturday night as well.
Speaker 9 (21:36):
Yes, Marvin, do you know the term yolo DP?
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (21:39):
You only live once. Yeah, Michael Irvin did not get
cheated the Hurricanes in the eighties at Miami and then
the nineties Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
I don't know what was happening at the U.
Speaker 9 (21:49):
Come on, now, there was an Uncle Luke.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
They were Luther Campbell, that's right, and Luke was was
Luther was paying the players back then properly. Yeah, but
that's where you you know, they'll have documentaries on the
U and then they'll ask, you know, Luther Campbell, were
you paying those players? And then he just had this
big smile on his face. But he was paying for
big hits, big plays, which okay, I mean now everything
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looks harmless. You know, when you hear the story about
SMU and what they were doing, Like nowadays that would
be like, what's wrong. You guys aren't spending enough money,
You're not giving way enough cars. But back then it's like,
oh my god, Eric Dickerson, he got a Transam gold.
I think Dickerson's taking that to his grave. I don't
(22:36):
think he's ever acknowledged that he got paid, but he
was getting paid by two schools I think at the
same time.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Right, So the story came out when Dickerson was the
best high school running back. There's a picture of him
in his driveway with a gold trans Am and the
story is A and M sent it over and they
thought they had it, and then I guess SMU matched,
yeah or.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Whatever, they matched in a different way and the car.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Yes, he got the car.
Speaker 9 (23:01):
Who's turn a minute.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
You can't say, hey, give us that car back that
we gave to you illegally. But you know what's happening now.
They're talking to somebody yesterday and they said, you know
these collectives because there's a finite amount of money that
schools can be paying, you know, their athletes, the collectives. Now,
the number that was given to me is you have
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to have about forty million dollars total to be able
to build or maintain a championship caliber roster. Around forty million.
And what's happening is you have aunts, uncles, friends, distant relatives.
They're getting money. So the player is going to get
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that money, but it goes through a third party there.
And I told you about the high school player. I
don't know where he signed. I told you there were
two schools that were bidding for him. He was a
high school senior and he was His price was three
million dollars, but it was three million total. But they
were signing they're signing them in high school. They're signing
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them as juniors, like they're trying to get as early
as possible. And all of a sudden, you're signed up
and now you're going to our university unless you say
I'm giving the money back. But this this kid signed
a three million dollar contract with a school, a big
time school. But yeah, there, the NCUBA does not exist anymore.
(24:31):
It does not. I was told that yesterday. The nc DOUBLEA,
as you know, it does not exist. And that might
be a good thing. Like, let's just start over. Figure
out what do you want to do. How do you
want to do it. You want to have professional college teams,
professional format formula blueprint, whatever it is. If you want
(24:52):
to have the nc DOUBA handle all of this secondary sports, great,
but let's not kid anybody. It's business. It's big business,
and everybody wants theirs. Yeah, Pauline, just to go.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Back to the Eric Dickerson recruiting Texas A and M
uh trans am story trans Am A and M. Eric
Dickerson was talking to his uncles that he loved the transam.
We saw the uncles. This is a story in Sports
Illustrated that from three years ago. Eric Dickerson ended up
talking to a booster for A and M and was
asked about it, and the butcher goes, we can make
(25:27):
that happen, and Eric said, they contacted his grandmother, put
his grandmother on the title, and agreed to reimburse the grandmother.
So I wasn't ready to see any red flags. That's
how it's done by pros. Put Grahama on the on
the title.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Yeah, but SMU got busted, Yes, because.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
What they did was they were sending players money in
envelopes with the return address of the s Musbic department.
You watched watch the documentary.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
At least with Tennessee when they were giving their players money,
you know, was in a fast food bag alleged. Yeah, yes,
some Tennessee people still frosty that I had that story
turned out to be true. Let's see Joey and fort Wayne.
Good morning, Joey, what's on your mind?
Speaker 6 (26:11):
Hey?
Speaker 12 (26:11):
I was the first time caller. I was wondering what
you saw of Notre Dame. I know, in the early
sixties they said they would go on the seat they
did not participate in the playoffs or if there was
a playoff. But nowadays, if they went under seated next
year and just stayed.
Speaker 6 (26:27):
Independent, so.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
We lost you there. If they go undefeated next year,
they're in the playoffs. Matt in Ohio, Hi, Matt, Hey, guys,
how are you today?
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Good?
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Good good?
Speaker 7 (26:42):
I just wanted to know in a couple more center
sorry catch phrases from back in the day, the late
great Stuart Scott Cooler on the other side of the pillow,
and I made Butcher.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
This was the rich Eisen that did He's on this horse.
It's a tiny horse.
Speaker 7 (27:02):
You can't see it.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
I never I haven't heard that. It sounds like something
Kenny Maine would say. But yeah. Everybody then had to
have a catchphrase. It felt like if you were coming
to sports center, Hey, and I've got a catchphrase, like
all of a sudden that allowed you that you know,
that's the password to get in. You got a catchphrase, yes,
I do, all right, come on in Kendall in Houston, Hey, Kendall.
Speaker 13 (27:28):
But so I'm not a big music guy, but all
my friends are, so I kind of just tagged along
through the years. And I bet you from amazing concerts.
One of the best ones with Eddie vedder By himself
at a theater in Houston playing acoustic guitar at the
entire time, nobody else but him for like an hour
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and a half.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
I love it. I love it. Didn't he do a
soundtrack for a Sean Penn movie and I don't know
what kind of good tar he played. Yeah, PAULI Into.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
The Wild was the name of the movie. Yeah, Sean
Penn directed.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Then he did the soundtrack, which was awesome sounds. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I mean you hear that voice, you know that that
is there's certain voices where you hear and you go,
oh okay, I knew who that is. Scott and Virginia. Hi, Scott,
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 6 (28:23):
Hey?
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Thanks for calling me back.
Speaker 14 (28:25):
I appreciate it. Yeah, I need to piggyback on Matt.
It's not what I called about. But I've seen Pearl
Zam once. It was one of the best concerts I've
ever seen. So if you get a chance, take it.
But I called because I was really an ameerw's fact
that you were talking about catchphrases.
Speaker 6 (28:46):
And I was.
Speaker 14 (28:46):
Telling Tyler that when I was a kid, I don't know, twelve, thirteen,
fourteen years old at Memorial Stadium in Baltimore used to
take me and my brother to the Orioles game whenever
the Yankees were in town, and because my favorite player
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was Don Maddingly, and I was one of those baseball
card nerds standing outside the bus waiting for the players
to come off. And you were there, and I asked
you if you would say, excuse me, Don Maddingly gone,
and you did it, and I've remembered it forever.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Well, I don't remember it's Scott, but I'm going to
take your word for it. I was there at Memorial
Stadium for the last game that the Orioles played there
before they went to Camden, and I remember I was
doing a report on that that all those great Oriole teams,
Great Baseball Town, Great Baseball Town.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
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Speaker 2 (30:03):
He's the playmaker Hall of Famer Michael Irvin they like
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Mike will be part of Netflix's NFL Christmas Game Day,
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(30:24):
Good to See Again, Playmaker, How are you e?
Speaker 6 (30:28):
And p D?
Speaker 2 (30:30):
P D?
Speaker 6 (30:31):
You know your bad man? Will you get nod by
two levels? D? Yeah? P DP? What's up man? Brother?
How you doing?
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Everything's good? Everything's good. We were talking about the Cowboys
in the nineties and that Sandra Bullock. Did she date
Troy Aikman.
Speaker 6 (30:51):
You know, Troy Aikman dated a lot of superstars. Everybody
now think these Powell couple things are something fresher and new.
You know, these new kids, they think they come up
with all the great ideas. But Roy was doing all
of that. I mean, I mean all of them, you
know what I'm saying. Somehow, some way, Well, I guess
(31:12):
that hotel incident helped me out a lot. I got that,
I got you know, I got Chad with being the
Roman thing and all of that, but Troy had all
the baddest top things out there. So so yeah, that's
been out there for a while.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
But he was though. You know, Troy was under the radar.
You were a radar. You were the radar.
Speaker 6 (31:41):
It was so funny. Right when Doctor Minary was coming out,
we were doing the premiere. It was Emmy and Jenery,
all of us was at the premiere in l A.
And we were going through the red carpet. I leaned
over the I said, hey, I said, when you think
about it, you Troy, you guys were quiet boys. Jerry
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gets final say on the documentary. So I guess in
this whole documentary, I have to beat a bag. It
looked at me, he said, well it kind of. I said, yeah.
So yeah, you're you're right, all this go.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
You're right, But you look back that you got caught.
Was that a good thing that you got caught?
Speaker 6 (32:31):
No real criminal wall ever say that.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Okay, no, no, no, I'm still a row.
Speaker 6 (32:45):
So it was a good thing. I guess that since
we were here, you know what I mean, It's all good, buddy,
it's all good.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Imagine if you got drafted by Cleveland or Green Bay,
you couldn't have gotten in trouble there.
Speaker 6 (33:01):
I won't imagine that. That's why I made sure I
control my draft by graduating as a junior. Remember now,
back then, if you wanted to go to league, go
to the league early, you had to graduate. So I
graduated as a junior and decided to go. So any
team that would have drafted me that I didn't want
to play for, I would have just dropped the class
and gone back to school and they would have lost
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their draft pick. I designated Dallas lay in New York.
So I was going to end up where I wanted
to be and not in any of those places.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Help me understand if you're Justin Jefferson and you're not
getting the ball like he once were getting, and you've
gone through what three or four five different quarterbacks here,
and you still don't know if you have your quarterback
in JJ McCarthy. Can you see a scenario where all
of a sudden, Justin Jefferson's like, get me out of here.
Speaker 6 (33:54):
Well, Minnesota is Justin Jefferson's place, and I think they've
done a good job of letting everybody know that. And
I think Justin Jefferson, I love, Justin Jefferson is a great,
great dude. I consider him a great friend. I get
to talk with him every now and then, and his
brother and all of them. I always tell his brother,
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make sure you're watching over him so he doesn't have
any Mike Werban moments out here. You know what I'm saying.
But the thing is, man then, he's such a good dude.
He's such a competitor. Justin Justson when he was in
high school, him and Jamar Chase, my old coach, Jerry
Sullivan called me then he said, Michael. I thought, because
(34:34):
you know, he said, Michael, I finally found a guy
that's as competitive as you. I was like, who you're
talking about? And he was talking about Justin Jefferson then.
So you know, no matter what quarterback he's had, he's
turned him into purity pretty good quarterbacks. And I think
he'll get JJ McCarthy there. And I think right now
(34:54):
he's taken a page from Terry McClain. Remember how Terry
McLaurin started when Jaydon Daniels got there and he wasn't
getting any passes, but he handled it right, and when
Jaydon Dames got around later on that season, they really
turned up. So I'm expecting that to happen because he's
that kind of receiver.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
What is Joe Burrow telling us without maybe really telling us?
Speaker 6 (35:20):
And it's funny how history somehow finds a way to
repeat hisself here again in Cincinnati. This is the cost
of parmer situation. Is Joe trying to say, man, it's
just a right, this ain't working, or or you know,
is he's talking about possibly retiring earlier. I don't think.
I don't think he's talking about walking away from the game.
(35:41):
I think he loves the game way too much. So
when I'm looking at it, I look at this, think
about this as a shout to the Bengals. Man, we
mess around every year, we put this defense. You didn't
even want to pay the top defensive player that you had,
you didn't want to pay the draft the guy acted
on defense in the early rounds. And you have me
(36:04):
over here going up, going through it. So, yeah, you know,
it's a crypti message. But I don't think. I don't
think he's going anywhere. I think he's just trying to
light a fire up under the organization. And I think
it's a lot of frustration with the injuries, you know,
and up and down and then and then you know,
(36:25):
starting out slow and then trying to finish fast and
and all of that stuff. It does get frustrating if
you can't get it like you want it.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
On the football field, give the Cowboys season so far
a grade.
Speaker 6 (36:39):
There is no grade to give outside a failure grade.
The standard, DAN is the standard. That's exactly I was
last week. I was at at Saint Thomas Aquinas High School.
We won our seven straight state championship. Coach Roger Harriet,
Uh and Twan Russell down there at the AD and
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that's the one thing we always talk about that Saint Thomas'
greatest high school in the world. The standard is the standard.
I don't want to hear how how many records you
broke this year. I don't want to hear what you
did in statistics. I want to hear wins and losses
and are you in the playoffs with a chance to
(37:20):
win a ring and they are not. That's a falling grade.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
There's some things to build on though, right you.
Speaker 6 (37:30):
Got you found other assets, you know, Uh, you found
the George Pickens. I like what you've done with the
interior defensive line. But still dand those are ornaments on
the tree that's not the Christmas tree. Just tender is
just tender, and you want to make sure that you're
(37:53):
getting in the playoffs. And here here's the sad part.
It's not that you don't have enough talent right now. Yeah,
you had enough talent on this offense to put up
thirty points a game, forty points a game, and for
a while you were added to forty points at home.
Why with the kind of talent you have on that
(38:14):
offense did that dissipate? So, yeah, you got to get
in the playoffs. That's just what it is.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Talking to Michael Irvin. Beginning at eleven am Eastern, Mike
will be part of Netflix's NFL Christmas Game Day that
leads into the Cowboys Commanders and that's at one Eastern,
followed by the Lions and the Vikings. Also, Mike is
on the podcast It Is What It Is twice a week.
If you're a Kansas City Chief fan, what are what
(38:44):
are you expecting next year?
Speaker 6 (38:48):
And it's interesting because you know, it's so sad to
see the greatest offensive player in this league and one of,
if not the greatest defensive player industry goes down on
the same Sunday and both with ACLS. But then I
tried it because you know, I had that injury and
that I try to look on the bright side of
(39:09):
what's going on and with with with Canvas City, and
I thought this when I saw it, I said only
that it was so sad. I mean, I hate seeing
it's such a great dude and great ambassador for the league.
But on the other side, on the other side, once
you realize and understand now he's hurt, you start saying
with of me because you got to try to look
at something something good in this and think about this
(39:31):
Dan this way. Even though it's unfortunate, he still gets
to hold on to the mystique of being that guy.
So so now you know they were making they were
driving and have a chance of winning that game, and
and and of course he went that and your boy,
(39:52):
uh mins, you get in and and and throw that interception.
But but so so now in their minds and in
the of Kansas City, they can still say, well, we
only lost that game and didn't make the playoffs because
we lost our Superman, you know, and the mystique of
that Superman can still be in play next year had
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he gone down with the ship. I don't know, man,
that had to be a whole different thing because most
of those guys probably always think, no matter how bad
the game is, as long as we got fifteen, we
got a chance to win, you know. And today and
this year, that didn't happen. So I believe Kansas City
now has to start retooling all the way around, build
(40:39):
around Patrick Mahomes. But you have to retool for so
long then they kept taking away talent, taking away talent,
saying we're gonna throw anything in there that Patrick Mahomes
will get it done. And he did. But at some
point the weight got a little too heavy and it
actually broke Patrick mahone. So now they have to start
(41:01):
taking some of that weight off by putting better talent around.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
Would you take Patrick Mahomes over Troy Aikman as your quarterback?
Speaker 6 (41:10):
No? No, I won't take Patrick Mahomes over Troy Aikman.
I won't take nobody over Troy Aightman, include mom, dad, sister, brother,
nis in my family.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
Tom Brady, Okay, I'm just curious that's that that's the
that was the right answer there, because you know how
Troy is really sensitive and if you heard about this,
he'd start crying. You don't want that to happen, Mike.
Speaker 6 (41:37):
I don't know Roy. I've never seen Roy real, you
know what I'm saying. But then it was so fun.
I wish I still had him here. I had all
my rings up here yesterday and I was messing around
on my little on my little locker room. Uh the
thing that I do, and it is what it is.
(41:59):
And I had all those rings up there, and I
was like, man, this this, this is because of Troy
eate Man. I had my quarterback. There is nobody I
will take over Troy Man because I'm not that Patrick Mahomes'
is great. He makes a second play, a third play,
but Troy is the best timing throwing quarterback in the
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history of this game. When North Turner got here said
you get that third step and let the ball go,
hit that fifth step and let that ball go, it
became perfect and it was unstoppable. I will take no
one at the quarterback position over Troy eight, not even
Jesus himself.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
Sam Darnold on display tonight, what kind of concerns do
you have with Seattle the rest of the year and
in the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (42:53):
Well, this game tonight in Seattle and it's going it's
supposed to be a little bit of rain. And I
think this is interesting because you know, a lot of
people I know are picking the RAM, and the RAM
looks like the best team in the NFC. But this
game is not just for the division. It is for
the conference. Talk in the conference and think about that
game in week eleven Dame Sam through four interceptions and
(43:18):
they batterly lost that game forty one night. You know
what I'm saying, backstaff for three for only one hundred
and thirty yards against that defense, It's going to be
an interesting game. If Sam could get down those interceptions
and just play within themselves and let that defense win
this football game for him. I'm leaning towards Seattle inking
(43:41):
out this win with that great defense.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
How much more pressure is on Josh Allen this year?
Speaker 6 (43:49):
M hmm. I believe there's a great dere pressure on
Josh Allen. Now why he is there, because you have
to look at it. We said, well, if it wasn't
a to man Homes, but Marge Jack's son and the
Joe Burrows and then Josh Allen and then Joe Burrow,
Josh Allen can go off, go off. Well, those guys
(44:10):
on a round. And now you you deal with a
whole bunch of babies and Drake May and bow Nix
and all of those guys. If you can't get by them,
that means you miss your moment. And they came in
and took your moment. So yeah, Josh Allen is under
a lot of pressure to get it done. But but
(44:32):
all he has to do is go on that phone
booth man and and and and leave Clarke Kenn and
the phone booth comes out Superman and he does his thing.
So I believe he can't get it done. And he
got it done in that game against the Packers the
Patriots last week, so so I believe he can get
it done.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
Is it super Bowl or bust for the Bills?
Speaker 6 (44:53):
No, no, no, not super Bowl of us. A super
Bowl win a bus you it's got to be a
super Bowl win. The elixir of getting to a super
Bowl that's gone. They got to four straight and didn't
mean any you know what I'm saying. So they're like,
don't tell me about getting there, tell me about the
(45:13):
victory when you get there. So that's how Josh Allen
and that's why the pressure is on Josh Allen.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
Good to talk to you again.
Speaker 6 (45:22):
It's always good to talk to you, man, and say
hello to your family and everybody. Man, I was, really,
you've been on the road a long time, do you
pe God has blessed you greatly?
Speaker 2 (45:33):
Well, I'm the Troy Aikman of talk show host s.
Speaker 6 (45:39):
You're right, you're right. You're making them past and you're
making a low time. And there's no greater thrower when
you hit those words, right about it?
Speaker 2 (45:50):
But I didn't.
Speaker 6 (45:51):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (45:51):
I didn't date Sandra Bullock though, Yeah?
Speaker 6 (45:55):
What What's which was the other girls he dated? Shining
Shining in the Twain uh, the Nights Wing, all of them?
Yeah he had that's a singer, right, yeah, oh yeah
he had.
Speaker 2 (46:11):
Trey dated twin.
Speaker 6 (46:14):
Troy had them all, man.
Speaker 15 (46:15):
I don't know, Hey, you think this Taylor Swill track
truck did all that stuff, man, and all that.
Speaker 2 (46:30):
He didn't date Madonna, did he?
Speaker 6 (46:32):
Hey? Hey, no, that he dated Madonna. Troy Trot and
Troy leg stayed up there at the top thing. Troy
came home after one game and there was some girls,
I guess in his backyard and cool he called the
police on you know what that went down? Like in
the locker room. We were like ticket that.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
You wouldn't you wouldn't have called the police.
Speaker 6 (46:58):
Why Dona man? What's your drinking? Uh?
Speaker 2 (47:06):
Happy holidays or thank you buddy.
Speaker 6 (47:09):
It's great talking to you again. Happy Holidays to.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
YouTube Michael Irvin. He'll be part of Netflix's NFL Christmas
Game Day
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Big game tonight feels too big for Thursday Night. You know,
I don't know anybody could come out and say that
it's a game that's too big for Thursday night Seahawks. Yes,
you just did. I know. But I'm I'm just flowing.
I'm doing a flow, Dan, three to two. Gangs all
(00:28):
here ready, Rams at the Seahawks. It's a game that's
too big for Thursday night. Rams are getting one and
a half over under is forty two and a half
for entertainment purposes only?
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Yes, Paul, you know these standalone games, Dan, is this
gonna be? Is this gonna be a good night or
a bad night for Sam Darnold reception.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Wines, Speaking of which, the Seahawks look dangerous. They look
like a team built to play in Januyuary, maybe February.
You got playmakers, you got a really good defense. The
question mark is Sam Darnol. Now, his resurgence has been
(01:10):
a great story. Now he had the resurgence with the Vikings,
He's played well with Seattle, and he is a franchise quarterback.
But you got gaudy numbers last season, four thousand yards
thirty five touchdowns. Vikings went fourteen and three, but then
his biggest moments brought out his worst football. He's ozeroed
(01:31):
three in big games, high stakes games. You got week
eighteen against Detroit the divisional title on the line, nine points,
last year's wild card, same story, and then earlier this
year against the Rams, four interceptions in a twenty one
nineteen loss. So Sam is a franchise quarterback. But you
(01:52):
know the problem is lights get bright and then all
of a sudden, personalities change. And this is a regular
season game. I expect Sam Darnold to play well. It's
the postseason that that's where you have the question marks here,
and Sam does have those question marks attached to him,
(02:12):
and you want to be a you know, keep in mind,
Philip Rivers quarterback rating prior to the last five minutes
of the game was better than Sam Donald's in that
Colt's narrow loss to Seattle that shouldn't happen at home. Now,
the Colts defense did play really well to keep them
in this game. But if you're Seattle, the defense did
(02:36):
the job, but you got to have the offense doing
you know, few more touchdowns in there. That was what
was I think lost in that game. Yeah, Philip Rivers played, Okay,
Sam Donald, that offense didn't do much, and I think
that's where you start to go, Okay, are you ready
to go in these big moments? And you expect this
(02:58):
to be a very tight game like the first game was,
and they could have won the game even with four
interceptions by Sam Darnold the last time these two teams met,
but that'll be coming up tonight as the Rams are
one and a half point underdogs over under his forty
two and a half to a tongue of iloa benched,
but far more than that, he was deactivated. So he's
(03:21):
the third, he's the emergency quarterback. You're going to have
Quinn Ewers and you're going to have Zach Wilson in there.
Here's the Dolphins head coach on Mike McDaniel talking about
what went wrong for Tua this season.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Playing quarterback and being a starting quarterback and then being
a franchise quarterback. These are all things that are very complex.
I think this is a player that his MO had
been growth and you know, just exceptional learner and he's
always evolving. You know, there's compounding variables that he can't
(04:00):
just pinpoint one or two things. I still believe that
his growth can continue, but you know, I couldn't responsibly
play this next game when I thought what the team
needed was available.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Oh boy, there's a lot to decipher there, because it
felt like Mike McDaniel kept his job this season after
they fired their GM because of his relationship and development
of Tua. Now he's saying that, in fairness to the team,
I'm going to bench and he's going to be my
(04:38):
third string quarterback and you owe him a lot of money.
I don't know if they're willing to admit that maybe
this is a Russell Wilson Denver Bronco type situation, and
it feels like yesterday that's sort of what they did.
But I mean russ leaving Seattle to go to Denver,
(05:00):
he's probably it was ten years older than Tua to it.
You know, you still see him when he's got Tyreek
Hill and Jayalen Wattall and you go and they got
a really good running game. He was just the weak link.
And I don't think his arm is threatening. It's you know,
it's threatening. If I throw it to Tyreek Hill, I
(05:22):
throw at seven yards and he takes it seventy and
you get credit for a seventy seven yard touchdown. You
got to throw out to the numbers. I mean, this
is what Philip Rivers is going to find out again
this week against the Niners, is hey, you can have
over the middle. I mean, we're going to force you
to throw out to the numbers. You're not going to
get over the middle. We're going to force you out
(05:43):
to the numbers. That's where these quarterbacks make their living.
Can you throw to the numbers? And I don't think
Tua can do that? Do that and be threatening. He
can throw it over the middle, dink and dunk, those
kinds of things, But can you throw to the numbers.
That's what you want to see. If you're a defensive back,
(06:04):
they're going to be like Philip Rivers, let me see
if you can throw that pass out there in the flats,
because I don't think you can. And two of the
same way. Now, it's not all on him, but that's
where you start when you're spending fifty million dollars on somebody.
Tyreek Hill is gone. Now you start to look at
what is the future. And they're going to find out
if quin Ewers can play. We already know sort of
(06:27):
what Zach Wilson is, but let's see what Quinn Eewers does.
Maybe it gives the team a little bit of a spark.
You could use it, and you're facing a team that
could use his spark too, the Cincinnati Bengals. Because man,
Joe Burrow, somebody's got to buy him an ice cream
cone or something, because he seems miserable and he yesterday
(06:50):
was asked about continuing to play football.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
I like play football for the same reasons that I
wanted to push to comeback from injury, some reasons I
want to play. This week, it feels like everything everybody's
trying to do everything in their power to make me
not play football, and I feel like I'm fighting it,
like fighting everybody else.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
I just want to I just want to play ball.
Speaker 6 (07:12):
That's all I want to do.
Speaker 7 (07:13):
Is there any world in your mind where you're not
the quarterback of the Bengals next year.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
I can't see that.
Speaker 7 (07:19):
No, you ever both thought about the possibility of not
being the quarterback here during your career, or you think
about a lot of things.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Okay, I mean he's got to say those things, but
still I want to see it on the field. I
mean he can he can say something in a press conference,
he can be despondent, he can say something after a loss.
You got embarrassed by the Ravens. That's that's what I
want to say, Like, why are you bad on offense?
(07:46):
You're back, you vouch for your receivers, they got paid,
you got shut out. That's what's kind of alarming here. Yeah, Okay,
I'm twenty nine. I'm not having fun of Eddie. Injuries
were not good. Okay. You know he fought back after
the toe injury, took off the cast himself. I mean,
(08:07):
he wanted to play and then all of a sudden,
maybe we just caught him at the wrong time. You know,
you start to think I'm twenty nine. You know, Mahomes
is out, Buffalo's not that good, Pittsburgh's not that good.
Boltemore's not that good. Yeah, Denver, but they're you know,
inexperienced Chargers. Okay, you have our chance. But that's why
(08:30):
when people say, oh, they'll get back, tell them to
be quiet, because they're all these sports are littered with. Well,
don't get back. The Bengals aren't going back to the
Super Bowl, not anytime soon. And maybe not in Joe
Burrow's career, And you wonder does he want to stay
in Cincinnati even though they gave him total autonomy. It
(08:53):
felt like, hey, I want Trey Hendrickson and resigned, Okay,
I want t Higgins all right, Jamar is going to
get his country. Okay, out all those things done, check
check check chen and then you get blown out by
the Ravens at home, a team you beat Thanksgiving Night.
That's the bigger picture is what is wrong with Cincinnati
(09:15):
because they should still be at least threatening the betting
line in that game against Miami, the Bengals, they are
favored by four and a half. In Miami, it was
two and a half. So maybe maybe Joe's in a
better mood. Yeah, it sounds like the biggest problem in
Cincinnati is the front office. Then if Joe Burrow is
the one making all the decisions, fire all those people,
(09:38):
get rid of the GM, he clearly doesn't do anything.
Joe Burrow is the one that's like, no, I said, son,
this guy, this guy, this guy, this guy. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Pauling Joe Burrow feels like a guy who was a
billionaire and now loses most of his money and has
to live like a normal life. He went from Heisman,
what sixty touchdowns at LSU, number one pick was it?
His second year in Cincinnati. He makes a super Bowl
and comes a block away from winning it. He would
had a three or four year run where he was
dubbed the next great quarterback. And now he's living like
(10:06):
a civilian or getting hurt, getting banged up, losing games.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
He's not used to this. But I just don't understand.
He's healthy. You got your now Higgins has been out
with the concussion. But you know, I mean, Joe was
healthy ish. It's just, man, you start to hear and
it just felt like it was a little bit more.
I was surprised with the honesty with when you know,
when he had that press conference a couple of weeks ago.
(10:32):
But then I thought, okay, you know, you have a
bad day and all right, play play the season out,
let's see. And then all of a sudden, you play
against the raven This is a game you gotta win.
And I think those two interceptions against Buffalo that changed
that game, changed the Bengals any hopes of trying to
make the playoffs. And it just felt like Joe took
(10:55):
that so personally they were a better team than Buffalo.
Speaker 8 (11:01):
Yeah, you got the same record as the Saints. Yeah,
that's not the plan.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
I don't have to say it.
Speaker 8 (11:06):
If you're your Joe Burrow, no offense in New Orleans, but
you're the if you're Joe Burrow, and that's how we're
playing that.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Well, hell no.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Do you think the Saints say, hey, man, we got
the same record as the Bengals as opposed to the Bengals. Man,
we have the same record as the same.
Speaker 8 (11:22):
Possible pole question best four and ten team this season
Commander's Bengals Saints other question mark m.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Yeah, based on the Hopometer, which we coined in twenty
twenty three, the Saints are actually quite hopeful. They may
have found their quarterback on the cheap the hopometer.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Yeah, so two was benched and deactivated, and uh so,
Quinn Yewers come on down. No banner for the Knicks.
I still want to wait and see on this the commissioner.
You know, when we had Reggie Miller on yesterday and
I said, rech Lakers put up a banner like they
don't put up a cup banner. He said, why not?
(12:04):
I said, do you think the commissioner encouraged them to
put up a banner once again, if if we're going
to buy into it, we have to believe the players
are buying into it like it means something. Now it
doesn't mean anything to us. I think it meant something
to the Spurs to play in a big game and be,
you know, a focal point, and they played really well.
(12:27):
But putting up a banner. The Knicks should be in
the NBA finals this year, that's how good they are.
I'm not surprised they won, you know, the banner or
the cup? And now do you have a banner? I
put the banner at my practice facility. You know, they
want to they want to have a like a kind
of ceremony on Friday for the fans to be like,
(12:50):
I don't know if Ben Stiller and Spike Lee or
Timothy Chaloney are gonna be going crazy like, yes, that's
the that's the first of another banner that's coming in here. Yes, Todd.
Speaker 9 (13:03):
But if the Knicks suddenly reversed course and they say,
you know, come to think of it, we will put
it up. It's gonna be blatant that the NBA forced it,
or well, the Knicks even care, and will Adam Silver
even care? The bottom line is I got them to
put the banner up. I don't even if they know
that I forced the team to do it. That's my
question to you is, well, does Adam Silver care if
he forces them to do it and that's the reason
the banner's up there.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Well, you know, you get through one day of you know,
bad press and then the banner stays up there. But you,
I mean, you're trying to make something happen and you're
telling us, man, you're crazy to not buy into the cup, Like, no, hey,
look at what we did to the floors. Don't they
look cool? Yeah, it's still just a basketball game in December.
Speaker 9 (13:51):
Yeah, Martha, but you acting like the Knicks of the
Lakers where they have tons of championship banners. The Knicks
have division title banners up at the garden, so they
can't be like, oh, you know what, we only celebrate
the big championship one. You don't have two banners. You
have a bunch of division title banners up there. Yeah,
there's plenty of room up there, tons. Yeah, they got
(14:12):
Harry Styles and Billy Joel and Fish banners up there too.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
What's Harry Styles in there for selling out, Like I
think so shows or something more than that.
Speaker 9 (14:22):
He's about like thirteen days in a row or something.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Wait, you get a banner?
Speaker 9 (14:26):
Yes, Billy Joel has a banner.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Well, Billy Joel deserves one.
Speaker 9 (14:30):
Fish has a banner, of course, and Harry Styles has
a banner. Fish, oh Fish, New Year's Eve at the Garden.
That is true, every single every single okay, Okay, how
many musicians? How many bands have banners?
Speaker 6 (14:44):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (14:44):
No in sports arenas?
Speaker 9 (14:46):
Oh that question worth?
Speaker 6 (14:48):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Yes? Does Coldplay get a banner after the Coldplay cam
caught that couple?
Speaker 6 (14:58):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Like, I don't know what what constitutes we're going to
have a banner up there?
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Maybe like where you play years and years or a
long run at a certain venue.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Okay, I don't know how many other bands have banners?
Speaker 8 (15:12):
Yes, he doing fifteen nights at the Garden for Harry Styles.
That's a hell of a run.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Okay. But is that banner worthy? I think it is,
and I think it is. What other places? Well, it's
the Garden too, Yes, Mark.
Speaker 9 (15:28):
Jay Z has a banner up in Barkley Center.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Wow, nobody goes there so they wouldn't see it.
Speaker 9 (15:34):
I think he sold it out. He opened up Barkley
Center and he got a banner. He sold out maybe
the first five.
Speaker 8 (15:39):
Wasn't he a part time owner of the j J
Z fat that's kind of weak, like Dan, like, you're
gonna hang a banner and here if you look, I
don't know when he shows, Dan Patrick did here.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Wow, that's amazing. Yeah, yeah, good point. Okay, Then over
the Emmy once again. It's a game too big for
Thursday night. It's the Rams and the Seahawks. That's how
we got started today, Todd.
Speaker 6 (16:05):
We did.
Speaker 9 (16:05):
And I jumped in on you.
Speaker 6 (16:06):
Yeah. Second, I was a little rude.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
I should have wasn't even a good line. Just raise
your hand, That's what I should have done.
Speaker 9 (16:12):
Let's you through your opening thing. And I should have
cut my mouth shut.
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Speaker 9 (16:55):
Comment away.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
I didn't get an update on the poll results from
the first hour seat and we do that. And do
we have a new pole question for hour two?
Speaker 6 (17:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (17:03):
We just got an interesting one here from Paul based
off some of the discussions we've had in a guest
we have coming up. Uh, who would you most have
wanted to kick it with?
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Kick it? Yes?
Speaker 8 (17:16):
Who would you most have wanted to kick it with?
Aka Party, led Zeppelin in the seventies, Motley Crue in
the eighties, or Michael Irvin in the nineties.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (17:27):
The fair comparison.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Wow, I would say, I have to look at what
are the chances I could die like high with all
of them and then work my way back. I don't
know how big a partiers led Zeppelin was. I know
John Bonham, the drummer was, but I don't know if
paigeyet House Are you kidding me?
Speaker 8 (17:51):
I like some of the most notorious party yers of
all time.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Yeah, I kind of assumed I didn't. Wasn't there for.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Les Well Motley Crue. You know. I I've talked to
somebody who actually stayed with them for a night. It
took him a week to recover, but he did. He
partied with them. Uh, they seemed to They didn't get
cheated Mike. Mike did well. Mike had fun in the
White House and wherever else. I don't think he discriminated.
(18:21):
But do you put the stones in there?
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Stop me?
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Oh when they were in the South of France doing
Exile on Main Street that they had to wake up
members of the band to play on an album.
Speaker 8 (18:34):
It doesn't sound like fun to me. Gotta admit South
of France sounds awesome. A bunch of dudes strung out
trying to make a record, though not it. Yeah, well,
Heroin will do that. Well. Wed sours the party quickly.
Gota admit.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Heroin always wins. You know, Heroin's undefeated. I would probably
want to party with Zeppelin just because it's Zeppelin, you know,
one of my favorite bands of all time.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Yeah, Paul, I was gonna throw guns and roses in there,
but I thought I want to go decade.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
By then they're guns and posers.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Oh really, Oh, I think they got after it.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
I don't know, they seemed like they were like, oh,
we gotta have Jack Daniels here backstage because Keith Richards did.
Yeh see, I'm going with the Playmaker. I want to
hang with Michael.
Speaker 8 (19:22):
Yeah, pre social media nineties was kind of my era.
Speaker 6 (19:25):
So I.
Speaker 8 (19:27):
Would have enjoyed hanging with the Playmaker.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
All right. I would probably say Zeppelin just to say
that I partied with Zeppelin.
Speaker 9 (19:36):
Yes, mart Yeah, I'm going with the Playmaker too. He
did all that and won Super Bowl. That wasn't stopping him,
and by all accounts, he was the leader of the Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Yeah. Well, I'd say t Roy was.
Speaker 9 (19:50):
He might have just been the quarterback, yeah, but he was.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Still he was. He was the guy who didn't go out.
I mean, just the fact that he was. Sandra Bullock
I think wanted to go out with him. I don't
know if Troy ever talked about I think I brought
it up to him. I think he brushed it off quickly.
I think, so, yeah, yeah, I think you know, you're
the quarterback of the Cowboys. I mean that fixes everything.
(20:16):
Normally yes, yes, Mart.
Speaker 9 (20:17):
But who's the rest of the cowboys following though? What
do you mean they were going to Mikero Order's house.
They weren't hanging out with t Roy.
Speaker 6 (20:25):
No.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
I think t Roy was probably just doing damage by himself. No,
he was single and mangling. But you know Sandra Bullock
in the nineties, Sandra Bullock from Speed. All of a sudden,
t Roy, he's eluding the rush apparently.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Uh, those were the days. You can't get away with
that stuff now, all right, eight seven seven to three
d P show email address Dpadanpatrick dot com, Twitter handled
TP show. A lot of college football coming up this weekend.
Let me give you a let me give you the menu.
So we got college football. You got Thursday night football.
But then you have the U Xbox Bowl Missouri State
(21:09):
and Arkansas State, the Myrtle Beach Bowl, Kennesas State and
Western Michigan, the Gas Barrello Bowl Memphis against NC State.
You have Alabama, Oklahoma, Miami, Texas A and m Tulane, Ole,
miss James Madison and Oregon. It's a lot of football
that's just the college slate. And then you know the
(21:30):
game's uh NFL games you got tonight and then you're
gonna have a game on Saturday night as well.
Speaker 9 (21:36):
Yes, Marvin, do you know the term yolo DP?
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (21:39):
You only live once. Yeah, Michael Irvin did not get
cheated the Hurricanes in the eighties at Miami and then
the nineties Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
I don't know what was happening at the U.
Speaker 9 (21:49):
Come on, now, there was an Uncle Luke.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
They were Luther Campbell, that's right, and Luke was was
Luther was paying the players back then properly. Yeah, but
that's where you you know, they'll have documentaries on the
U and then they'll ask, you know, Luther Campbell, were
you paying those players? And then he just had this
big smile on his face. But he was paying for
big hits, big plays, which okay, I mean now everything
(22:14):
looks harmless. You know, when you hear the story about
SMU and what they were doing, Like nowadays that would
be like, what's wrong. You guys aren't spending enough money,
You're not giving way enough cars. But back then it's like,
oh my god, Eric Dickerson, he got a Transam gold.
I think Dickerson's taking that to his grave. I don't
(22:36):
think he's ever acknowledged that he got paid, but he
was getting paid by two schools I think at the
same time.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Right, So the story came out when Dickerson was the
best high school running back. There's a picture of him
in his driveway with a gold trans Am and the
story is A and M sent it over and they
thought they had it, and then I guess SMU matched,
yeah or.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Whatever, they matched in a different way and the car.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Yes, he got the car.
Speaker 9 (23:01):
Who's turn a minute.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
You can't say, hey, give us that car back that
we gave to you illegally. But you know what's happening now.
They're talking to somebody yesterday and they said, you know
these collectives because there's a finite amount of money that
schools can be paying, you know, their athletes, the collectives. Now,
the number that was given to me is you have
(23:23):
to have about forty million dollars total to be able
to build or maintain a championship caliber roster. Around forty million.
And what's happening is you have aunts, uncles, friends, distant relatives.
They're getting money. So the player is going to get
(23:45):
that money, but it goes through a third party there.
And I told you about the high school player. I
don't know where he signed. I told you there were
two schools that were bidding for him. He was a
high school senior and he was His price was three
million dollars, but it was three million total. But they
were signing they're signing them in high school. They're signing
(24:06):
them as juniors, like they're trying to get as early
as possible. And all of a sudden, you're signed up
and now you're going to our university unless you say
I'm giving the money back. But this this kid signed
a three million dollar contract with a school, a big
time school. But yeah, there, the NCUBA does not exist anymore.
(24:31):
It does not. I was told that yesterday. The nc DOUBLEA,
as you know, it does not exist. And that might
be a good thing. Like, let's just start over. Figure
out what do you want to do. How do you
want to do it. You want to have professional college teams,
professional format formula blueprint, whatever it is. If you want
(24:52):
to have the nc DOUBA handle all of this secondary sports, great,
but let's not kid anybody. It's business. It's big business,
and everybody wants theirs. Yeah, Pauline, just to go.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Back to the Eric Dickerson recruiting Texas A and M
uh trans am story trans Am A and M. Eric
Dickerson was talking to his uncles that he loved the transam.
We saw the uncles. This is a story in Sports
Illustrated that from three years ago. Eric Dickerson ended up
talking to a booster for A and M and was
asked about it, and the butcher goes, we can make
(25:27):
that happen, and Eric said, they contacted his grandmother, put
his grandmother on the title, and agreed to reimburse the grandmother.
So I wasn't ready to see any red flags. That's
how it's done by pros. Put Grahama on the on
the title.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Yeah, but SMU got busted, Yes, because.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
What they did was they were sending players money in
envelopes with the return address of the s Musbic department.
You watched watch the documentary.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
At least with Tennessee when they were giving their players money,
you know, was in a fast food bag alleged. Yeah, yes,
some Tennessee people still frosty that I had that story
turned out to be true. Let's see Joey and fort Wayne.
Good morning, Joey, what's on your mind?
Speaker 6 (26:11):
Hey?
Speaker 12 (26:11):
I was the first time caller. I was wondering what
you saw of Notre Dame. I know, in the early
sixties they said they would go on the seat they
did not participate in the playoffs or if there was
a playoff. But nowadays, if they went under seated next
year and just stayed.
Speaker 6 (26:27):
Independent, so.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
We lost you there. If they go undefeated next year,
they're in the playoffs. Matt in Ohio, Hi, Matt, Hey, guys,
how are you today?
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Good?
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Good good?
Speaker 7 (26:42):
I just wanted to know in a couple more center
sorry catch phrases from back in the day, the late
great Stuart Scott Cooler on the other side of the pillow,
and I made Butcher.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
This was the rich Eisen that did He's on this horse.
It's a tiny horse.
Speaker 7 (27:02):
You can't see it.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
I never I haven't heard that. It sounds like something
Kenny Maine would say. But yeah. Everybody then had to
have a catchphrase. It felt like if you were coming
to sports center, Hey, and I've got a catchphrase, like
all of a sudden that allowed you that you know,
that's the password to get in. You got a catchphrase, yes,
I do, all right, come on in Kendall in Houston, Hey, Kendall.
Speaker 13 (27:28):
But so I'm not a big music guy, but all
my friends are, so I kind of just tagged along
through the years. And I bet you from amazing concerts.
One of the best ones with Eddie vedder By himself
at a theater in Houston playing acoustic guitar at the
entire time, nobody else but him for like an hour
(27:49):
and a half.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
I love it. I love it. Didn't he do a
soundtrack for a Sean Penn movie and I don't know
what kind of good tar he played. Yeah, PAULI Into.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
The Wild was the name of the movie. Yeah, Sean
Penn directed.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Then he did the soundtrack, which was awesome sounds. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I mean you hear that voice, you know that that
is there's certain voices where you hear and you go,
oh okay, I knew who that is. Scott and Virginia. Hi, Scott,
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 6 (28:23):
Hey?
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Thanks for calling me back.
Speaker 14 (28:25):
I appreciate it. Yeah, I need to piggyback on Matt.
It's not what I called about. But I've seen Pearl
Zam once. It was one of the best concerts I've
ever seen. So if you get a chance, take it.
But I called because I was really an ameerw's fact
that you were talking about catchphrases.
Speaker 6 (28:46):
And I was.
Speaker 14 (28:46):
Telling Tyler that when I was a kid, I don't know, twelve, thirteen,
fourteen years old at Memorial Stadium in Baltimore used to
take me and my brother to the Orioles game whenever
the Yankees were in town, and because my favorite player
(29:09):
was Don Maddingly, and I was one of those baseball
card nerds standing outside the bus waiting for the players
to come off. And you were there, and I asked
you if you would say, excuse me, Don Maddingly gone,
and you did it, and I've remembered it forever.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Well, I don't remember it's Scott, but I'm going to
take your word for it. I was there at Memorial
Stadium for the last game that the Orioles played there
before they went to Camden, and I remember I was
doing a report on that that all those great Oriole teams,
Great Baseball Town, Great Baseball Town.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
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Speaker 2 (30:03):
He's the playmaker Hall of Famer Michael Irvin they like
to call him IRV, and beginning at eleven am Eastern,
Mike will be part of Netflix's NFL Christmas Game Day,
leading into the Cowboys Commanders one Eastern, followed by the
Lions Vikings at four thirty Eastern. Also, Mike appears on
the podcast It Is What It Is twice a week.
(30:24):
Good to See Again, Playmaker, How are you e?
Speaker 6 (30:28):
And p D?
Speaker 2 (30:30):
P D?
Speaker 6 (30:31):
You know your bad man? Will you get nod by
two levels? D? Yeah? P DP? What's up man? Brother?
How you doing?
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Everything's good? Everything's good. We were talking about the Cowboys
in the nineties and that Sandra Bullock. Did she date
Troy Aikman.
Speaker 6 (30:51):
You know, Troy Aikman dated a lot of superstars. Everybody
now think these Powell couple things are something fresher and new.
You know, these new kids, they think they come up
with all the great ideas. But Roy was doing all
of that. I mean, I mean all of them, you
know what I'm saying. Somehow, some way, Well, I guess
(31:12):
that hotel incident helped me out a lot. I got that,
I got you know, I got Chad with being the
Roman thing and all of that, but Troy had all
the baddest top things out there. So so yeah, that's
been out there for a while.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
But he was though. You know, Troy was under the radar.
You were a radar. You were the radar.
Speaker 6 (31:41):
It was so funny. Right when Doctor Minary was coming out,
we were doing the premiere. It was Emmy and Jenery,
all of us was at the premiere in l A.
And we were going through the red carpet. I leaned
over the I said, hey, I said, when you think
about it, you Troy, you guys were quiet boys. Jerry
(32:02):
gets final say on the documentary. So I guess in
this whole documentary, I have to beat a bag. It
looked at me, he said, well it kind of. I said, yeah.
So yeah, you're you're right, all this go.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
You're right, But you look back that you got caught.
Was that a good thing that you got caught?
Speaker 6 (32:31):
No real criminal wall ever say that.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Okay, no, no, no, I'm still a row.
Speaker 6 (32:45):
So it was a good thing. I guess that since
we were here, you know what I mean, It's all good, buddy,
it's all good.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Imagine if you got drafted by Cleveland or Green Bay,
you couldn't have gotten in trouble there.
Speaker 6 (33:01):
I won't imagine that. That's why I made sure I
control my draft by graduating as a junior. Remember now,
back then, if you wanted to go to league, go
to the league early, you had to graduate. So I
graduated as a junior and decided to go. So any
team that would have drafted me that I didn't want
to play for, I would have just dropped the class
and gone back to school and they would have lost
(33:23):
their draft pick. I designated Dallas lay in New York.
So I was going to end up where I wanted
to be and not in any of those places.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Help me understand if you're Justin Jefferson and you're not
getting the ball like he once were getting, and you've
gone through what three or four five different quarterbacks here,
and you still don't know if you have your quarterback
in JJ McCarthy. Can you see a scenario where all
of a sudden, Justin Jefferson's like, get me out of here.
Speaker 6 (33:54):
Well, Minnesota is Justin Jefferson's place, and I think they've
done a good job of letting everybody know that. And
I think Justin Jefferson, I love, Justin Jefferson is a great,
great dude. I consider him a great friend. I get
to talk with him every now and then, and his
brother and all of them. I always tell his brother,
(34:14):
make sure you're watching over him so he doesn't have
any Mike Werban moments out here. You know what I'm saying.
But the thing is, man then, he's such a good dude.
He's such a competitor. Justin Justson when he was in
high school, him and Jamar Chase, my old coach, Jerry
Sullivan called me then he said, Michael. I thought, because
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you know, he said, Michael, I finally found a guy
that's as competitive as you. I was like, who you're
talking about? And he was talking about Justin Jefferson then.
So you know, no matter what quarterback he's had, he's
turned him into purity pretty good quarterbacks. And I think
he'll get JJ McCarthy there. And I think right now
(34:54):
he's taken a page from Terry McClain. Remember how Terry
McLaurin started when Jaydon Daniels got there and he wasn't
getting any passes, but he handled it right, and when
Jaydon Dames got around later on that season, they really
turned up. So I'm expecting that to happen because he's
that kind of receiver.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
What is Joe Burrow telling us without maybe really telling us?
Speaker 6 (35:20):
And it's funny how history somehow finds a way to
repeat hisself here again in Cincinnati. This is the cost
of parmer situation. Is Joe trying to say, man, it's
just a right, this ain't working, or or you know,
is he's talking about possibly retiring earlier. I don't think.
I don't think he's talking about walking away from the game.
(35:41):
I think he loves the game way too much. So
when I'm looking at it, I look at this, think
about this as a shout to the Bengals. Man, we
mess around every year, we put this defense. You didn't
even want to pay the top defensive player that you had,
you didn't want to pay the draft the guy acted
on defense in the early rounds. And you have me
(36:04):
over here going up, going through it. So, yeah, you know,
it's a crypti message. But I don't think. I don't
think he's going anywhere. I think he's just trying to
light a fire up under the organization. And I think
it's a lot of frustration with the injuries, you know,
and up and down and then and then you know,
(36:25):
starting out slow and then trying to finish fast and
and all of that stuff. It does get frustrating if
you can't get it like you want it.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
On the football field, give the Cowboys season so far
a grade.
Speaker 6 (36:39):
There is no grade to give outside a failure grade.
The standard, DAN is the standard. That's exactly I was
last week. I was at at Saint Thomas Aquinas High School.
We won our seven straight state championship. Coach Roger Harriet,
Uh and Twan Russell down there at the AD and
(37:00):
that's the one thing we always talk about that Saint Thomas'
greatest high school in the world. The standard is the standard.
I don't want to hear how how many records you
broke this year. I don't want to hear what you
did in statistics. I want to hear wins and losses
and are you in the playoffs with a chance to
(37:20):
win a ring and they are not. That's a falling grade.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
There's some things to build on though, right you.
Speaker 6 (37:30):
Got you found other assets, you know, Uh, you found
the George Pickens. I like what you've done with the
interior defensive line. But still dand those are ornaments on
the tree that's not the Christmas tree. Just tender is
just tender, and you want to make sure that you're
(37:53):
getting in the playoffs. And here here's the sad part.
It's not that you don't have enough talent right now. Yeah,
you had enough talent on this offense to put up
thirty points a game, forty points a game, and for
a while you were added to forty points at home.
Why with the kind of talent you have on that
(38:14):
offense did that dissipate? So, yeah, you got to get
in the playoffs. That's just what it is.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Talking to Michael Irvin. Beginning at eleven am Eastern, Mike
will be part of Netflix's NFL Christmas Game Day that
leads into the Cowboys Commanders and that's at one Eastern,
followed by the Lions and the Vikings. Also, Mike is
on the podcast It Is What It Is twice a week.
If you're a Kansas City Chief fan, what are what
(38:44):
are you expecting next year?
Speaker 6 (38:48):
And it's interesting because you know, it's so sad to
see the greatest offensive player in this league and one of,
if not the greatest defensive player industry goes down on
the same Sunday and both with ACLS. But then I
tried it because you know, I had that injury and
that I try to look on the bright side of
(39:09):
what's going on and with with with Canvas City, and
I thought this when I saw it, I said only
that it was so sad. I mean, I hate seeing
it's such a great dude and great ambassador for the league.
But on the other side, on the other side, once
you realize and understand now he's hurt, you start saying
with of me because you got to try to look
at something something good in this and think about this
(39:31):
Dan this way. Even though it's unfortunate, he still gets
to hold on to the mystique of being that guy.
So so now you know they were making they were
driving and have a chance of winning that game, and
and and of course he went that and your boy,
(39:52):
uh mins, you get in and and and throw that interception.
But but so so now in their minds and in
the of Kansas City, they can still say, well, we
only lost that game and didn't make the playoffs because
we lost our Superman, you know, and the mystique of
that Superman can still be in play next year had
(40:15):
he gone down with the ship. I don't know, man,
that had to be a whole different thing because most
of those guys probably always think, no matter how bad
the game is, as long as we got fifteen, we
got a chance to win, you know. And today and
this year, that didn't happen. So I believe Kansas City
now has to start retooling all the way around, build
(40:39):
around Patrick Mahomes. But you have to retool for so
long then they kept taking away talent, taking away talent,
saying we're gonna throw anything in there that Patrick Mahomes
will get it done. And he did. But at some
point the weight got a little too heavy and it
actually broke Patrick mahone. So now they have to start
(41:01):
taking some of that weight off by putting better talent around.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
Would you take Patrick Mahomes over Troy Aikman as your quarterback?
Speaker 6 (41:10):
No? No, I won't take Patrick Mahomes over Troy Aikman.
I won't take nobody over Troy Aightman, include mom, dad, sister, brother,
nis in my family.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
Tom Brady, Okay, I'm just curious that's that that's the
that was the right answer there, because you know how
Troy is really sensitive and if you heard about this,
he'd start crying. You don't want that to happen, Mike.
Speaker 6 (41:37):
I don't know Roy. I've never seen Roy real, you
know what I'm saying. But then it was so fun.
I wish I still had him here. I had all
my rings up here yesterday and I was messing around
on my little on my little locker room. Uh the
thing that I do, and it is what it is.
(41:59):
And I had all those rings up there, and I
was like, man, this this, this is because of Troy
eate Man. I had my quarterback. There is nobody I
will take over Troy Man because I'm not that Patrick Mahomes'
is great. He makes a second play, a third play,
but Troy is the best timing throwing quarterback in the
(42:23):
history of this game. When North Turner got here said
you get that third step and let the ball go,
hit that fifth step and let that ball go, it
became perfect and it was unstoppable. I will take no
one at the quarterback position over Troy eight, not even
Jesus himself.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
Sam Darnold on display tonight, what kind of concerns do
you have with Seattle the rest of the year and
in the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (42:53):
Well, this game tonight in Seattle and it's going it's
supposed to be a little bit of rain. And I
think this is interesting because you know, a lot of
people I know are picking the RAM, and the RAM
looks like the best team in the NFC. But this
game is not just for the division. It is for
the conference. Talk in the conference and think about that
game in week eleven Dame Sam through four interceptions and
(43:18):
they batterly lost that game forty one night. You know
what I'm saying, backstaff for three for only one hundred
and thirty yards against that defense, It's going to be
an interesting game. If Sam could get down those interceptions
and just play within themselves and let that defense win
this football game for him. I'm leaning towards Seattle inking
(43:41):
out this win with that great defense.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
How much more pressure is on Josh Allen this year?
Speaker 6 (43:49):
M hmm. I believe there's a great dere pressure on
Josh Allen. Now why he is there, because you have
to look at it. We said, well, if it wasn't
a to man Homes, but Marge Jack's son and the
Joe Burrows and then Josh Allen and then Joe Burrow,
Josh Allen can go off, go off. Well, those guys
(44:10):
on a round. And now you you deal with a
whole bunch of babies and Drake May and bow Nix
and all of those guys. If you can't get by them,
that means you miss your moment. And they came in
and took your moment. So yeah, Josh Allen is under
a lot of pressure to get it done. But but
(44:32):
all he has to do is go on that phone
booth man and and and and leave Clarke Kenn and
the phone booth comes out Superman and he does his thing.
So I believe he can't get it done. And he
got it done in that game against the Packers the
Patriots last week, so so I believe he can get
it done.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
Is it super Bowl or bust for the Bills?
Speaker 6 (44:53):
No, no, no, not super Bowl of us. A super
Bowl win a bus you it's got to be a
super Bowl win. The elixir of getting to a super
Bowl that's gone. They got to four straight and didn't
mean any you know what I'm saying. So they're like,
don't tell me about getting there, tell me about the
(45:13):
victory when you get there. So that's how Josh Allen
and that's why the pressure is on Josh Allen.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
Good to talk to you again.
Speaker 6 (45:22):
It's always good to talk to you, man, and say
hello to your family and everybody. Man, I was, really,
you've been on the road a long time, do you
pe God has blessed you greatly?
Speaker 2 (45:33):
Well, I'm the Troy Aikman of talk show host s.
Speaker 6 (45:39):
You're right, you're right. You're making them past and you're
making a low time. And there's no greater thrower when
you hit those words, right about it?
Speaker 2 (45:50):
But I didn't.
Speaker 6 (45:51):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (45:51):
I didn't date Sandra Bullock though, Yeah?
Speaker 6 (45:55):
What What's which was the other girls he dated? Shining
Shining in the Twain uh, the Nights Wing, all of them?
Yeah he had that's a singer, right, yeah, oh yeah
he had.
Speaker 2 (46:11):
Trey dated twin.
Speaker 6 (46:14):
Troy had them all, man.
Speaker 15 (46:15):
I don't know, Hey, you think this Taylor Swill track
truck did all that stuff, man, and all that.
Speaker 2 (46:30):
He didn't date Madonna, did he?
Speaker 6 (46:32):
Hey? Hey, no, that he dated Madonna. Troy Trot and
Troy leg stayed up there at the top thing. Troy
came home after one game and there was some girls,
I guess in his backyard and cool he called the
police on you know what that went down? Like in
the locker room. We were like ticket that.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
You wouldn't you wouldn't have called the police.
Speaker 6 (46:58):
Why Dona man? What's your drinking? Uh?
Speaker 2 (47:06):
Happy holidays or thank you buddy.
Speaker 6 (47:09):
It's great talking to you again. Happy Holidays to.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
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