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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
The news that just happened about ten minutes ago. Jerry
West has passed away at the age of eighty six.
He was the logo and certainly a friend of the show.
We tried to have him on. He'd be mad at
me if I was emotional, be like, what are you
(00:28):
crying about. We tried to have him on recently and
he wasn't feeling well. I think he had a cold
or the flu, and his wife said, you know, try again.
I think the last time we had him on was
a little little less than a year ago. And you know,
he's a friend of the show and integral part of
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the show. Came on many, many, many times, joined us
in studio a couple of times when we were in
Los Angeles. But listen stuff. Yeah, Paulie helped me out.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Yeah, I just gotta tell you, man, we found out
about three or four minutes before you did. Sometimes we
get information before you and none of us in this
room wanted to walk over and tell you this.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
We were waiting for.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
The break and uh, man, I know how important this
guy was to you. I mean, we talk about Walter
Payton for me or everyone has an athlete that and
I think work on the show a long time. I'm
sure he was your hero, your dad's. And then and
we saw a couple of times, maybe about ten years ago,
he started coming on a show and he was sitting
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there with you and talking basketball, and I could tell
that you were like kind of giddy, like I can't.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
Believe well, I saw my dad. Yeah, and I think
they were similar age.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Jerry walked out one day and he goes, thank you,
my friend, and I could see You're like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Yeah, that's that's not something that's supposed to happen. And then.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
On our tenth anniversary, Fritzy and I and Seaton and
all the guys had an idea prize you for the
tenth anniversary of the show, and we're like, let's let's
ask Jerry West to come in at seven am West
Coast time.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
And he looked immaculate.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
He was perfectly dressed, he had to go on a
flight two hours later, took time out of his day,
and we surprised you with a cake from Jerry's Cakes
and Torrents. And if it's not the greatest moment the show,
ye so uh, I wish we didn't have to tell
you this, but yeah, yeah, see he has.
Speaker 6 (02:30):
Jerry West has one of the most unique positions in
sports sports history, and that was just one figure can occupy.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
He was a tremendous player. He's the logo of the
of the sport.
Speaker 6 (02:43):
He is instrumental in drafting several of people, people who
had then gone on to become some of the greatest
people ever. His impact on the game is immeasurable just
in one person, and you could take as an executive
it's one way, just as a marketing I guess, even
though it wasn't really his doing, just the logo itself
is massive. And then just him as a player, just
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it's like three or four separate careers that were all massive.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
All Hall of Fame careers.
Speaker 6 (03:09):
Yeah yeah, I mean, his his role an impact really
can't be measured.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
He might be the most impactful person in the history
of the NBA.
Speaker 6 (03:19):
While also wanting almost no attention for anything like to
be the logo and also be a very private man.
I mean, he would do interviews and share things he
never wanted credit. And he brought up the fact that
he couldn't even watch or listen to the Laker games
because it ate him up. You know, he had a
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hard time sitting there watching a game because he was
so competitive and that, you know, there's only so much
you can do. You put a product out on the
floor and you hope that they win. But he said
that he would drive around Los Angeles sometimes when the
Lakers would be playing in you know, an NBA finals there.
Speaker 5 (03:57):
But yeah, we were verry lucky.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
We are very lucky that he opened himself up to
us and developed a relationship there. But Jerry West passed
away at the age of eighty six.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
I always found it when we'd have him on the show,
it was like going to a time machine with a
different type of person, a gentleman from the fifties and
sixties and seventies that said, that's how I'm going to
be for the rest of my life. I'm going to
be a gentleman. I'm not going to buy into all
this new culture of what you know, all this stuff.
And it was like meeting Babe Ruth or something like that.
I didn't grow up on Jerry West like you did.
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And when we first had in the studio, it's kind
of shocking. That's exactly who I expect him to be.
He outlived the expectations of what a class individual and
we'd have him on of like that. That's kind of
person I wish I could be someday.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
And he wrote a book, and he had an alcoholic father,
and his father used to physically abuse his mom. And
I remember Jerry telling the story that he slept with
a shotgun under his mattress and he said that he
told his dad, you do it again, and I'm going
to blow your head off.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
All right, Well, let me let me do my job here.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
I do want to ask you one thing, Dan, about
Jerry West. We always talk about that the TV era.
There's certain players that because they didn't play in the
TV era, they're not going to ever get their due,
like a young doctor j or a David Thompson or
play with Elgin Baylor. Jerry West seems to me like
one of those guys that boy, if there's more TV
around and more great films of seeing him play, because
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I look at his.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Stats and they're insane.
Speaker 7 (05:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
I mean if you look at thirty five and seventeen
in the NBA Finals, that's insane.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
I think it's almost like he doesn't get his due
as a basketball player, didn't get his due.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Yeah, and you're right about not being in the TV era,
you know, having the NBA Finals on tape delay back then.
But his numbers even at West Virginia and he and
Oscar Robertson were you know, kind of competitive peers, you know,
at the same time. And Marvin brings up a great point,
like the first time you got to see somebody who
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had a jump shot in the NBA, it's Jerry West.
Everybody else was shooting like set shots. All of a sudden,
Jerry's off the dribble hitting jumpers and you gotta be going,
wait a minute, this is new, this is different. And
he had a beautiful shot. I always tell people, always
remember Jerry West that last dribble is even harder, so
you can go up. Quicker had a great release, gentleman.
(06:31):
He was a wonderful, wonderful spokesperson for the NBA, represented
it quite well, yes, Mark, Yeah, he was.
Speaker 8 (06:39):
Playing at a completely different speed when you watch old
clips of him on NBA TV. And also, guys, he
brought together Shaq and Kobe. You know the fact that
he signed Shack from Orlando, then drafted the kid thirteenth
traded with the Hornets, and it was just like, wait,
so you did this. You won the NBA Finals MVP
on a losing team, and then you draft Kobe Bryant
and you signed Shack and it's like three different generations
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were all linked to this guy.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
I also, you know, when I first really got to
talk to Jerry West. Now, I saw him play in
person in nineteen seventy one, had beautiful penmanship, got his autograph,
and my dad always said, that's a ball that's the
ballplayer you want to be like. You want to be
like him, and so yes, I wanted to be like
Jerry West. I wasn't like Jerry West, and I wasn't
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alone in wanting to be like Jerry West. So we
I had Rick Riley, the great writer from Sports Illustrated
on and Jerry was part of the Memphis Grizzlies front office,
and Rick Riley alluded to the fact that maybe Memphis
was tanking and I don't know who they were tanking
for to get a draft pick, and he said it
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on our show. I get a phone call, and I
get a phone call, and it's from Jerry West, and
Jerry West rips me for five minutes.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
He is.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Me out. I mean, I am, I am shaken. I
called Paulie. I said, first of all, Jerry West just called.
He goes awesome. I go no, no, no, no. He
was yelling at me. He was Why was he yelling?
Speaker 9 (08:12):
I said?
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Rick Riley said that Memphis would be tanking and Jerry said,
you know, bleep the bleep thee believe blieve me. I'd
never tanked ever never. I can't stand losing. I hate,
you know. Five minutes he went on this long, long
soliloqually diatribe and I'm monologue and I'm going and I
kept saying, Jerry. Jerry finally stopped and I said, Jerry,
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I didn't say that Rick Riley did. He goes, Okay,
I'm sorry, and then he hung up and I'm going,
You're stel sick.
Speaker 10 (08:45):
I was.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
I was.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
I was devastated. And then I remember talking to him
and I said, look, and I told him the whole backstory.
I told him everything, and he said okay, and he
was giving me like another chance. And after that he
was wonderful with me, whether we had him on the show,
whether I got to talk to him privately or I
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got to ask him about things that were off the record,
and just having that relationship with somebody you watched as
like a I don't know a ten or eleven year
old in person. That's the logo, all the things that
he did, and you know, so we didn't have a
good start, but we had a good we had a
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good finish, yes, Paul.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
I know for years it's been a touchy topic that
you know, Jerry West, clearly, if you know anything about basketball,
was the logo that the NBA used the photo of him.
It's it's clear the NBA has never publicly acknowledged that
because of business reasons and legal reasons.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
I'm sure, well what would that be worth?
Speaker 11 (09:47):
Right?
Speaker 5 (09:48):
But you know what, but Jerry didn't. He didn't.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
He didn't bring it up. Even when I brought it
up to him. He said, you know, Dan, it doesn't matter.
He wouldn't matter.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
He wouldn't have asked for anyone.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
No, But it'd be nice if the NBA today announced
that this is and will be the logo and with.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
A side by side, you know, or something like say.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Like well there is a picture. Yeah, if you see
the picture they took the logo from, and you go,
how could you how could you deny that that's not
Jerry West?
Speaker 9 (10:14):
There? Uh?
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Adam in West Virginia. Hi, Adam, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 9 (10:21):
Hey? Dan?
Speaker 12 (10:22):
I just wanted to call and just speak on the
importance of Jerry West to West Virginia and how great
he is Tauris State and sorry, mane, let me get together.
He he is so such a just a great person.
And I don't think people understand the greatness of Jerry
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West now, but man, he's just he's just awesome. And
that's really all I have. I just just from the
state of West Virginia. Man, couldn't couldn't ask for anybody better.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Thank you, Adam. I thought you were going to help
me not cry, and you're making me cry. I'm going
to bring back a couple of things. You know, Jerry
talked about being a surrogate father to Kobe. We had
him on when Kobe died. He never wanted to be
complimented on the you know, he just said, it's my job,
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you know, making these trades. But yeah, we we had
some great moments there, great moments, and you know, he
he predicted that he'd be dead without bask I mean,
there were always these powerful moments there and we'll try
to bring some of those back if we can.
Speaker 5 (11:39):
Adam in La Hi, Adam.
Speaker 10 (11:42):
Good morning, Dan, Thanks for having me. Sixty two two twenty.
I just wanted to say a couple of things that
my Lakers saying. My father grew up as as a
fan of Jerry West from the sixties, so he used
to talk about Jerry West a lot, and we had
a lot of cool moments, you know, with with with
as as Marvin just said, you know, all the accolades
that Jerry did as the general manager, but my dad
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used to always remind me, you know, how great he
was as a player, and how nobody, you know, nobody
could touch Jerry West's intensity and and and as you
mentioned the jump shot, and just all the things that
Jerry West did for I think basketball and pro basketball,
and and and as that gentleman just mentioned from West Virginia,
you know, it goes from West Virginia all the way
across the country to La So again, just uh just
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wanted to say, you know, r ip Jerry West. And
uh it's been a terrible week for Lakers fans, but
hopefully we'll get better. Thanks. Do you guys have a
great day.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Yeah, uh, Jerry talked. You know, we had him on
when Jerry Bust died. I mean, we had him on
so many times, and he was so willing to share
Shelby and san Antonio.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
Hi, Shell KDP, how are you well? You can imagine him?
Speaker 13 (12:52):
I know, I'm glad I heard it from you.
Speaker 10 (12:54):
Then.
Speaker 14 (12:54):
I recently I was with my four grandsons and ran
into Jerry West. My I graduated high school when he
was when he retired, and I was explaining to him
how I don't get the scene very often, but I
do hear him on Dad Patrick, Can you stop me?
Mid sentenced and said, yeah, you know what, Dan Patrick's
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a good man. And I said, I haven't met him,
but I'm sure he is. And I appreciated hearing him
on your show. And thank you.
Speaker 13 (13:30):
I'm glad I heard it from you, Dan.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
Thank you.
Speaker 7 (13:33):
Shell.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
All right, we'll try to hit the reset button once again.
Still got a job to do here. Bill Plashkek from
the La Times. I'm sure Bill will have some thoughts.
He'll join us coming up a little bit. Reggie will
join us in an hour from now. How about we
take a break back after this.
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Speaker 2 (15:07):
I think we're going to have ice Cube on tomorrow
given what's happened if you're tuning in right now. Certainly
on the West Coast, Jerry West passed away at the
age of eighty six and certainly was a large part
of this show. I remember Super Bowl Sunday in Or
it was the previous Sunday prior to the Super Bowl
in Miami, and Kobe had died in the helicopter crash
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alongside with his daughter and other members of her basketball team.
And PAULI said, do you want to call Jerry West?
And I said, you know what, have Fritzy have Fritzy
called Jerry maybe talk to Jerry's wife that we'd like
to have.
Speaker 5 (15:49):
Him on and on Monday.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
And to my surprise, Jerry West was like, I want
to come on and I want to talk about Kobe.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
He was like a surrogate father.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
In fact, Jerry said he was a surrogate father to Kobe,
that he loved Kobe and he wanted to come on
and talk about that. And I was, you know, very
very appreciative, forever grateful that it was tough for him,
but he wanted to he wanted to talk. I think
he needed to talk. And you know that's the hard part.
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I mean, Bill Plashki, the La Times columnist, you know,
he's gonna join us. He's trying to process this. He
just found out about Jerry West and we were going
to talk about what happened with the Lakers and Dan Hurley,
and so he asked Fritzy, if you know, maybe he
could be pushed back until the top of next hour,
just to kind of gather his thoughts. Reggie Miller will
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join us as well, but he had We had so
many moments with Jerry and once again when I I
we were sitting on the set in Los Angeles in
our studio, and I remember looking at him. I'm not
even hearing his words. I'm seeing my dad. Oh I'm
trying to keep it together. When I'm doing the interview
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with him, It's just like, oh my god, I'm watching
my dad if he were still alive. But he was
impeccably dressed. He was brilliant. Anytime he was going to
call a GM. I always said, if I'm the GM,
do not take a phone call from Jerry West, because
chances are you're going to get fleeced when it comes
to a trade. But his eye for talent, he had
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some memorable moments. He had some whiffs as well, and
he talks about that. He went to the Warriors, was
in their front office with them, then the Clippers. You know,
there was a falling out with the Lakers. But you know,
he was very respectful in certain things that he would
talk about and certain things that he did not want
to talk about. But he did open up about what
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it was like growing up in West Virginia and having
an alcoholic father, you know, very powerful. Let me get
a couple of phone calls in here.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Uh yeah, Paulie, I do want to go back to that.
When Kobe Bryant passed away and we're in Miami Super Bowl,
we were all just dreading to do our job and
call people to react to Kobe Bryant passing away. Kobe
and Fritzy has the toughest job because he has to
make our contact. I just remember having a stomachache think
of Jerry West getting this news. If you listen to
the Jerry West interview on our show about Kobe Bryant,
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it's almost one of the most heartbreaking and awesome interviews
we've ever done, because Jerry wants fifteen minutes to explain
Kobe the person and staying at his house and his
work ethic and how much he respected this eighteen, nineteen
year old.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
This is Jerry West saying.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
I respected Kobe Bryant so much for his work ethic
at eighteen. And it's just one of those interviews like
we wish we never had to do it, but Jerry soloquent.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Yeah, once again. You know, we kind of threw the
rundown out the window here. I know there's a basketball
game tonight. You know what Jerry would be He would
be angry that this is going to interrupt, you know,
some of the coverage of the game tonight. Knowing him,
it'd be like, you know, sorry that this news is
going to interrupt the Celtics and the maps. That's tonight,
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that's Game three. The Mavericks are favored by two and
a half. Don't know, if Christopsperzingis is going to play
as a rare leg injury and probably a game time situation,
we will take some phone calls. I know some people
have called in about other topics. I just can't go there.
If you have something to say about you know, Jerry West, great,
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If not, you know, we don't have to take phone calls.
But you know, as Seaton said, people waking up, certainly
in Los Angeles want to hear memories of you know,
Jerry West, and to be the logo. I mean, that's
pretty cool, pretty cool, Like that's His impact literally and
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figuratively on the game is unprecedented. Like when you think
of Michael Jordan's impact on the game, it pales in
comparison to Jerry West. Or read arbac go down the
list of great players, great coaches, Jerry left an indelible mark.
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I mean, nobody will have a career like that ever
ever again.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Yeah, Paul, I'm gonna read you something real quick. This
is Jerry West. BIO, NBA Champion, seventy two NBA Finals,
MVP sixty nine, fourteen time All Star, NBA All Star Game, MVP,
ten times First Team All NBA two, four time First
Team All Defense Scoring Champion, one year in the NBA
Assists Leader, another season in the NBA. He was on
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the thirty fifth, fiftieth, and seventy fifth NBA Anniversary teams.
The Lakers retired as number then new you go to
college Final four MVP. Two time first Team All American
jersey retired by West Virginia. He also won the Presidential
Medal Freedom as an executive.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
He's got eight.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
As an executive, two time Executive the Year, Basketball Hall
of Fame, College Basketball Hall of Fame, Olympic Gold Medal
in Rome.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
That's it. He's got it all. He had it all.
Speaker 5 (21:12):
He was so good that even in defeat, he won
the finals MVP.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
Yeah, it was crazy.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
Nobody does that.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
That's like West Virginia didn't win the national title. He
was named the most Outstanding Player of the Final four.
That's really hard to do. That's how great he was.
And the fact that he averaged over forty a game
in an NBA finals, that's why he was MVP.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
He was different. He was different. He kind of brought
in the modern jump shooter. It was just different.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Go back and look at those old but you know,
the old footage of NBA basketball and you know, set shots,
Jerry's coming in beating you off the dribble and you know,
rising up and that great, great form that he had.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
Uh John and Montana. Hi John, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 9 (22:11):
How are you, my friend doing?
Speaker 5 (22:13):
Okay?
Speaker 9 (22:14):
I'm sorry to hear the pain in your voice, but
when I was listening, I had to call in it.
I share a couple Jerry West stories. As you know,
damn you and I fished a few different places in
the world, and I traveled all over the world doing
my fly Fish in the World series and fished with
a lot of very famous people. And about ten years ago,
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I was on vacation.
Speaker 5 (22:38):
In Hawaii and.
Speaker 9 (22:40):
I was standing in line waiting to get some food
and Jerry West walked up to me and he said,
are you the fishing guy? And this is my sports hero.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
So this is John John Barrett, who's one of the
great fly fishermen in the world. John and I have
been gone fly fishing, and just so people know that
John's one of the great fishermen there is in the world.
Speaker 9 (23:06):
Continue John, So he walks up and he recognizes me,
and you know, I was when I was growing up
I was such a Jerry West fan. I used to
sign my papers in fourth fifth grade with my name
is Jerry West On him and my teacher would get
upset with me, but I didn't care. I was Jerry
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West and my friend was John Havlichek, And I was
fortunate enough to spend time with John, and and that
was the thrill of itself.
Speaker 11 (23:37):
But he.
Speaker 9 (23:40):
Asked me, why ain't you ever asked me to be
on your show? And I looked at him. I said, Jerry,
I didn't know you fish. He goes, I love to fish.
I grew up fish in all the little streams in
West Virginia. He said, I love the fish. He said,
I you never did.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Call, and I knew that you like to fish. Yeah,
I know he did. But John, thank you for calling.
Speaker 17 (24:05):
In.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Uh gone fishing with John a couple of places. He
runs the complete fly Fishermen up in Montana. Brent in Connecticut, Hi, Brent,
what's on your mind?
Speaker 18 (24:19):
Hey Dan?
Speaker 19 (24:20):
Mike Dunce is to you. I hope the Dan nets
and the backrod guy's taking of you today. This is
more towards you. I'm stilling Tyler to me, You're my
Jory West I've been following you since you were chief.
I have no athletic talent. I love to talk sports,
love listen to sports, and I'm hurting so much for
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you today, and I'm sorry. I'm truly sorry for you.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
Thank you, Brent. I'll be okay.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
You know, sometimes there's the shock of news, but you
get time to process it.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
I didn't.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
I didn't at that opportunity. You know, it happened live,
But you know that's I love doing this show. It's live.
It's in the moment. You react what happened, you know,
so we we deal with it, we react to it.
Hopefully we advance, hopefully we enlighten you, and a lot
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of people may not realize just how great a player
he was, or that he was the logo, or all
the things that he did with the Lakers and other
organizations there, and really what he gave us, what he allowed.
He allowed me to ask him questions and he answered
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my questions. And not a lot of people with that
status allow you to go there, and he did.
Speaker 5 (25:50):
Yes, Marv Jerry.
Speaker 8 (25:52):
West has a real John Madden like quality to him,
because if you're of a certain age, you only knew
him as maybe the Lakers general manager or he was
in the front office with the Warriors, So that means
he was relevant from the sixties until now. Yeah, in basketball,
it was like one of you know, Oscar wasn't in
basketball and some of these other guys weren't in the game.
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He was a big part of the game and a
part of like dynastic teams.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Yeah, but I still go back to the conversation we
had about his dad and he was going to kill
his dad if he put a hand on Jerry's mom again.
And you're twelve and you're sleeping with the shotgun. I mean,
wrap your head around that if you can. Josh in Montana, Hi, Josh,
(26:40):
what's on your mind?
Speaker 10 (26:42):
Hey?
Speaker 20 (26:43):
Dan, I just wanted to tell you, give you my
condolences and tell you thank you for everything that you
do to help people like myself who have a lot
of surgery and getting us through it. And the way
you interview people, and just the way you when you
(27:07):
had I know, you're struggling and you looked at Jerry's
father figure and I can tell you you're hurting, But
the way you talk to him and the way he
talked to you was it was like the relationship you
(27:29):
guys had was one of the kind.
Speaker 5 (27:31):
Yeah, and I appreciate that, Josh.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
I mean, I got to get it together here because
once again, Jerry would probably be very disappointed in me
that I was showing as much emotion. You know, if
it happened in the afternoon and then you kind of
brace yourself for the next day. Even then it's not easy,
but you want to bring I want to pay tribute
(27:54):
in the right way, and that's not always easy. I mean,
you're getting all emotion now. I don't know if you
would get this tomorrow, but you're getting it now. Jim
in Oregon, Hi, Jim, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 21 (28:12):
Just a quick little one for you. Right before Jerry
West retired the preseason in seventy four seventy five seasons,
Blazers were down in Los Angeles and Jerry West had
some problems. But his last game that he played, he
had a triple double.
Speaker 7 (28:30):
And the next day he.
Speaker 21 (28:32):
Decided, you know what, I got to hang it up,
and I just wanted to pass that on that the
man had a triple double in his last game.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Well, he had to play at a certain level. He
was a perfectionist. Everything about him had to be perfect.
His hair was perfect, his uniform was perfect, how he
dressed was perfect. The way the team played had to
be perfect, pull off the perfect trade, everything about him.
His penmanship was perfect, everything about him, and he couldn't
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play at a certain level, maintain a certain level, and
decided that he was not going to play anymore. All right,
I'm going to take a break once again. Bill Plashki
from the La Times.
Speaker 13 (29:15):
Bill.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Bill was scheduled to join us to talk about the Lakers,
and when Fritzy got ahold of him, you know, Bill
had just gotten up and he said, you know, I
need some time to kind of process what just happened here,
and he'll i'pe be able to join us coming up
top of the hour. Then Reggie Miller will join us
as well. But we'll come back. We'll get the phone
calls after this on The Dan Patrick Show.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAP.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
We're trying to find the interview that I did with
Jerry West, who passed away at the age of eighty six.
This was the Monday of Super Bowl week in Miami,
and of course Kobe it passed away on that Sunday
and we reached out and he wanted to come on.
He wanted to talk about Kobe, pay his tribute. He
considered himself a surrogate father to Kobe, so Mary was
(30:11):
looking for that. Now we're trying to secure that and
then bring that to you. There are so many moments
that we had with him. We just showed if you're
watching on Peacock when he brought our tenth anniversary cake
out when we were in Los Angeles that everybody surprised
me with Jerry West showing up at seven in the
morning to bring in our anniversary cake the ten years
(30:34):
that we had been on. Do we have the portion
of the interview here? Okay, here's my interview with Jerry
West following the death of Kobe Bryant. Why did you
feel like a surrogate father to him?
Speaker 17 (30:49):
Well, he was so young when he came here, and
he had he didn't drive around the city, didn't know anything,
and you know, he was so inquisitive. Uh, spent time
with my kids, Ryan and Johnny, and Johnny was a little,
real little guy then, and and Ryan was driving him
to drive him to his first practice. He would h
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he would eat dinner at our house here. Arn Tellham,
who is a was his agent at that time, was
wasn't still as a very close personal friend of mine.
And it was almost like you're, you know, helping a
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young kid get through the mine fields of just going
to colleague and much less a teenager who couldn't even
sign a contract cause he was seventeen years old, so
always wanting to go to the gym, UH watching him
work out, ask me for anything and that that I
would recommend for him, which at that point in time,
(31:54):
uh I did. I would go work with him uh
early on a number of times during the first two
years here and then to uh watch his stars in
in Los Angeles. An enormous success he had. And I
(32:15):
s saw somebody mentioned this last night. I'm not sure
who it was to to give credit to, but that
singular name Kobe. No one ever mentioned Kobe Bryant. It
was Kobe. And to watch him grow and and retire
twenty years with one franchise, to watch a new career
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that was growing by leaps and bounds. He was br
very and smart, hard worker, and everyone said, you know,
talk about the people inspired. He's he inspired so many
women that was w to me. Young women, he inspired
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them like no others. He inspired young men to chase
their dreams, but to be committed in chasing them. And
he had a grace about him. Uh. A few players
have it. A few players have that special something. Irvin
(33:24):
Johnson had it, but he was not Kobe Bryant. Co
Ervin just played with his smile on his face. Kobe
played with this almost vindictive attitude that you're not gonna
beat this team and you're not gonna beat me. And frankly,
I think those are the things that resonated with because
(33:47):
during my time when I played, I didn't like anyone
I played against. Uh I d I just it felt
like more like a war when played. And they'll say,
yesterday it was a very difficult day. And this is
not gonna go away from me, Dan, It's not gonna
go wait for a lot of people, uh. But the families,
(34:10):
oh my god, to get his Christmas cards, to see
him interact with his young girl as a joy to
see him. Didn't go to the Laker game, but every
time he went, of course he was they had they'd
had him on TV and I don't go to the
Laker games, and just to watch his little girl who
passed away with him, Uh lean up against him and
(34:33):
hug your dad, and how uh just see him playing
around together. And it was a tribute to the man
who had changed become this incredible father, uh, this iconic
figure not just in Los Angeles, but all over the world,
(34:57):
in China, in Europe, his ability to speak three different languages,
his dad played in Italy. There is a storyline here
that this could only happen in America, and to be
taken it away so quickly, it just does not seem
(35:20):
to seem fair at times. I had a brother killed
in Korea and frankly just affected me the same way
as a life taking too short. But my brother was
deeply religious, and it even makes you question.
Speaker 22 (35:41):
Uh faith.
Speaker 17 (35:44):
That something like this could happen. But uh, I have
a friend of mine we always talk about there's a
day that somebody puts up there for you, and you
just never know what it's gonna be.
Speaker 22 (35:55):
But uh, yesterday it was a god awful day.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
Yeah that was yeah, damn.
Speaker 22 (36:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
Like like you said before, then, when we called for
Jerry West that day to talk about Kobe and we,
you know, we were felt bad that we're bothering mister West.
But once Kobe, once Frizzy talked to Jerry and he explained,
we're trying to do a tribute show to Kobe. He's like,
I absolutely want to, I absolutly want to explain to
everybody more about this kid. And you could tell how
(36:43):
painful that fifteen minutes was for you and him, But
he chose to do it, and that says a lot
about his character to choose to do it twenty four
hours later.
Speaker 5 (36:52):
Yeah, it was January twenty seventh of twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
That was the day after the helicopter crash.
Speaker 5 (37:02):
Steve and La Hi, Steve, Hey.
Speaker 11 (37:05):
Dan, how you doing okay? So nice story about Jerry
building the house next door to his house in the
west side of La We didn't know it at the time,
so the architect I were over the phone looking at
the drawings and he's telling me that the pool house
is on the west side of the property. Got a
(37:26):
mistake dinner because it wasn't after we made the bet.
Then he explained, yes, the poolhouse is on the Jerry
west side of the property. So I owed him a
stake dinner. And the funny thing is, guess who's shooting
in the backyard. It's Kobe Bryant. This is I think
in the nineties, maybe early two thousand. I think it
(37:48):
was in the nineties. It's quite a while ago. But
the architect said that Jerry would be out there every
now and then shooting hoops with Kobe, and that would
have been a treat to see.
Speaker 5 (37:58):
Yeah, I would like that. I'd like to have him
as a neighbor.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Thank you, Steve for sharing Chris in La like Chris,
Good morning Dan.
Speaker 23 (38:07):
You know, I was just thinking a lot of times,
I think what makes people connect with someone like mister
West is the fact that you know how great they
are and how good they are as a person.
Speaker 7 (38:18):
So I think that's.
Speaker 23 (38:19):
Why we all are feeling the way we are today.
I just wanted to give a story that going to
a lot of Laker games in LA. I was fortunate
to have a friend who worked for Lakers, so I
would go to a lot of the games. And it
is absolutely true that during the games Jerry would stand
up and he would be at the end of a
tunnel right down there with pretty much everyone else in
the stadium because he couldnot sit down, and he was
(38:42):
so invested in every single game. But that tunnel. You've
been to the Forum Club. I'm sure that tunnel led
to the Forum Club, but he would stand there and
I can't imagine how many times he had to say
hello to people as they walked by as he's trying
to do his business of watching being a general manager
of a game, not sitting down low, not sitting up
(39:03):
high away from everyone. He was sitting just right at
the end of that tunnel, just kind of looking. And
that's the memory I have of him and just being
a great, nice guy who seemed like he was just
one of us.
Speaker 9 (39:17):
And I think that's.
Speaker 23 (39:18):
Why La is morning as we are today, because we
lost what we would consider a friend.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Well, when you consider what he contributed for seven decades,
I mean to basketball, I mean to the Lakers, he
says impactful, if not more so than anybody in the
history of the NBA, and that's not overstating it.
Speaker 5 (39:44):
Steven La by Steve.
Speaker 13 (39:48):
Hey Bud, Good morning. I had just been a bad,
bad morning this morning. And the first thing I saw
on twit on X when I saw that he had died,
I thought of you, Dan. I just know how much
he meant so much to you. But Dan, people don't
realize this man was the Mount Rushmore of Lakers. I
(40:09):
mean to hear all the stories and watching the finals,
I would remember as a kid, Dan the General was
talking about him in the tunnels. Jerry West was a mess.
He couldn't watch any of the games. He be in
the tunnel because he was a nervous wreck. And he
didn't get enough credit.
Speaker 17 (40:24):
Dan.
Speaker 18 (40:25):
Everybody kept talking about Bill Scharmon.
Speaker 9 (40:27):
Bill.
Speaker 18 (40:28):
Jerry West brought Shack, Jerry West got Kobe. Jerry West
stilled in the pieces and all this stuff. He was
so instrumental for the team. Jack the last thing he
did for the Lakers when he was the consultant for
the Memphis Grimly. Then we got Paul Defall.
Speaker 5 (40:47):
I thank you, Steve.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
I don't think Jerry would have taken credit for getting
you a pal Gasol. Final hour in the way Bill
Plaski from the La Times and Reggie Miller, I hope
you'll stay with us. Two hours in the books, One
more to go, Dan Patrick Shaw, he's a big time
Hollywood star. He's Laurence Fishburn. He plays the former Clippers
head coach, Doc Rivers in FX is clipped. The next
(41:13):
episodes are available today exclusively on Hulu. As we welcome
in Laurence Fishburn. How much of a basketball fan are you?
Speaker 3 (41:23):
Not?
Speaker 7 (41:23):
At all? Not since the nineteen sixty nine Knickerbockers.
Speaker 5 (41:28):
Man, Wait, that's when you're fandom peaked?
Speaker 7 (41:33):
That was it. That was the only time I wanted
to Clyde Fraser when I grew up.
Speaker 5 (41:43):
What kind of game do you have?
Speaker 24 (41:46):
I have no game at all. I'm a left handed person.
So whenever I got involved in sports, everybody who's always
looking at me like, oh here he comes again with.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
That mean might have been like Dick Barnett, maybe left
hand or for your for your next Yeah, when you
get this offer to play Doc Rivers, what's worked? What
do you think of right away?
Speaker 7 (42:11):
Who's Doc Rivers?
Speaker 5 (42:15):
Wait? You didn't know who Doc Rivers was?
Speaker 17 (42:18):
Like?
Speaker 7 (42:18):
Who Doc Rivers was? I told you I'm not a
sports fan.
Speaker 9 (42:22):
Damn.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
Yeah, it's it's kind of Is it easier when you
don't know who you're playing?
Speaker 5 (42:28):
Or hard?
Speaker 7 (42:29):
Of course it is. It's totally easier.
Speaker 22 (42:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 24 (42:32):
I have no preconceived notion. I brought no preconceived idea
about who the man.
Speaker 7 (42:37):
Was to it.
Speaker 24 (42:38):
I had no opinion about anything because I didn't know
about his history.
Speaker 5 (42:43):
And then how do you start studying.
Speaker 24 (42:46):
Well, Luckily, he's still alive with us. He's alive and well,
and we have mutual friends. So I was able to
get his number and call him and talk to him briefly,
and I invited him into a Labor Day party in
my house, and he and my friend Bryntin Marsalis were
(43:07):
there together, and they immediately got into a debate about
the late Bill Russell, who had just passed away, about
whether or not he was the greatest who played the game,
et cetera, et cetera. So I got to watch these
two debate for two hours about you know, the great
Bill Russell. So you can imagine it was very passionate,
(43:28):
and it was very intelligent, and it was very you know,
in depth, because they were you know, I mean, they
were talking about specific games and moments in games, et cetera. Right, So,
through that experience, I was able to really observe Doc
being his very, very natural self without any of the
(43:48):
constraints of his position.
Speaker 7 (43:50):
As a coach. During this whole thing that happened with
the Clippers.
Speaker 5 (43:54):
At any point do you want to try to mimic
Doc's voice.
Speaker 24 (43:58):
Well, it's very clear that he had a raspy voice,
and it was very clear why he had a raspy
voice to me. So I made the effort to sort
of replicate that in my performance.
Speaker 5 (44:11):
How difficult was that?
Speaker 7 (44:13):
Not at all?
Speaker 2 (44:14):
Not hard, because I have somebody here who works with me. Now, yes,
I want you to judge Fritzy's Doc Rivers impersonation for it.
Speaker 8 (44:24):
Hey, Lawrence, you got to give me forty eight minutes
out there.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
You got to give me forty eight I can't.
Speaker 5 (44:28):
How do you just sit there on the sideline.
Speaker 8 (44:30):
Be engaged, work with me a little bit, and I
can get you where you want today.
Speaker 7 (44:34):
Listen, that's not bad. That's not that's not bad.
Speaker 5 (44:37):
Not mine, It's all right.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
What's what's the one thing you get when you're on
the street. Guaranteed somebody's gonna say what to you?
Speaker 7 (44:53):
Morphias?
Speaker 5 (44:54):
Oh yeah, and.
Speaker 7 (44:57):
Your receiving red Bill Blue Bilt.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
When you read the script from Matrix, do you understand
like what it can possibly be?
Speaker 11 (45:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (45:10):
I understood it, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (45:12):
But the magnitude of what it would be.
Speaker 7 (45:14):
No, No, nobody understood that.
Speaker 24 (45:16):
I don't think anybody really absolutely knew what it was
going to do, that was going to be the pop
culture phenomenon worldwide that it became. I don't think anybody
knew that, and I think anybody that says they knew
that is probably full of but.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
You know, yeah, but how many times have you read
something you go that's going to be a hit.
Speaker 24 (45:36):
I've never read anything and said that's going to be
a hit. I've always read something and gone, whether I
like it, it's beast to me or not.
Speaker 5 (45:42):
What spoke to you about this series? Though clipped?
Speaker 24 (45:46):
This series was the great confluence of sexism, racism, white privilege,
the social media and the impact of social media, sports, business, entertainment,
our whole sort of uh culture of celebrity, et cetera.
(46:12):
It was this beautiful confluence of all those things. And
Gena Welsh wrote it so brilliantly, with so much nuance
and sensitivity and and uh and humanity that I just thought, oh,
this is great. It wasn't about It's not about just basketball,
it's about our humanity collectively.
Speaker 2 (46:32):
And we talked to Ed O'Neil last week and he
said it was great to play in a non comedy
role like that, you know, because he's been in that role,
but you've been in serious roles.
Speaker 5 (46:43):
So is it any more of a challenge or less
of a challenge.
Speaker 1 (46:50):
You know, to be.
Speaker 24 (46:53):
In an ensemble with somebody like Ed O'Neil and Cleopatrick
Coleman is priceless, you know, to be working with LeVar Burton,
you know, who's been a dear friend of mine for
forty years. Mean, these are the people of serious wait
(47:14):
and talent, and we had the support of this incredible material,
this really really interesting, nuanced timely story.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
So talking to Laurence Fishburne, he plays the Clippers head
coach Doc Rivers. FX is clipped latest episodes available today
exclusively on Hulu. I had one encounter with Keanu Reeves.
He came in studio years ago.
Speaker 7 (47:39):
Oh wow, cool.
Speaker 2 (47:40):
No, he had no entourage, He took the subway, he
walks in, has a suit on. I think he was
fifty at the time. He looked thirty five. Could not
have been a nicer person. And so you know now
when I see him in John Wick, like just the
action part, like it's weird. You know, you have that
(48:01):
kind of juxtaposition of this guy is peaceful he's nice,
he's pleasant, and then all of a sudden he goes
into john Wick mode and look out, everybody dies.
Speaker 5 (48:11):
Sure, Yeah, what was it like when you first met him?
Speaker 7 (48:15):
Yeah, was a beautiful cat man.
Speaker 24 (48:17):
He's unlike anybody I've ever met or ever will meet.
Speaker 7 (48:20):
He's a singular individual.
Speaker 24 (48:23):
He's a deeply soulful and highly intelligent man.
Speaker 7 (48:30):
And we're for others.
Speaker 24 (48:31):
And I love him, and we were fortunate enough to be,
you know, cast together in this this you know, this
film that the matrix that became, you know, a pop
culture phenomenon, and it has obviously changed our lives and
connected us in a way which is nice.
Speaker 7 (48:49):
And then we were fortunate enough to kind.
Speaker 24 (48:51):
Of revisit each other as actors with the John Wick Shows.
Speaker 7 (48:56):
So yeah, I'm just I'm just grateful that he's in
my life and that we've maintained our friendship over these years.
Speaker 5 (49:03):
Is there a role of him, a role historical figure
you like to play?
Speaker 7 (49:10):
Well, I've played a bunch of him now, you know.
Speaker 24 (49:13):
I did Nelson Mandela and the Lake, Thurgan Marshall and
Bumpy Johnson and Ike Turner and now Doc Rivers. The
one I would have liked to have done. I would
have loved to have had the opportunity to play Muhammad Ali,
but you know, Will Smith did it and did it brilliantly.
(49:35):
I would have loved to have been able to play
Jimmy Hendrick, for example, but I've aged out from that one.
Speaker 7 (49:39):
So you know, listen, something old, something'll turn up. We'll see.
Speaker 5 (49:44):
Did you meet Alli.
Speaker 24 (49:47):
I did meet Ali briefly back in nineteen eighty one.
I had very interesting encounter with Ali. Never spoke a
word to him, but we acknowledged each other in a
way that we'll always stay with me for the rest
of my life.
Speaker 2 (50:03):
Yeah, I was there when he got checked in in
New York for Parkinson and I had I had. I
had been around him a couple of times when he
was able to speak, and then all of a sudden,
you know, the person who couldn't stop talking had to
stop talking. And but he there was a communication level
(50:26):
that you're talking about where it's unspoken, but there was
something I don't know what it was, but it was
still power.
Speaker 7 (50:33):
It's soul.
Speaker 24 (50:34):
He spoke to the world that he communicated spiritually to
most of the world.
Speaker 7 (50:40):
If you're in tune to that, you know Muhammad Ali
was a very spiritual man. He was a spiritual warrior.
Speaker 2 (50:49):
In fact, when's the last time you flip through the
channels and you go, all right, I'm going to watch me.
Speaker 7 (50:55):
I'm going to watch me.
Speaker 5 (50:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 24 (50:56):
Oh, about a month and a half. I'm in England
now doing a television series for Netflix. And just before
I left New York a movie that I did back
in twenty I want to say twenty thirteen twenty fourteen
with Thomas Jane came on this thing called stand Off,
(51:19):
which is a funny little two hand or that we did,
and I got to watch that because the writing in
that is really amazing.
Speaker 7 (51:27):
I get to spout off some really cool things.
Speaker 5 (51:29):
But to grade yourself or you do you see something
when you watch that?
Speaker 4 (51:33):
Maybe you didn't see.
Speaker 24 (51:33):
I even care once I've done it. Takes me about
five years to watch something after I've done it. Wow,
So like really, it takes about five years for me
to have the distance on it where I can sit
and watch it enjoy it without being judgmental and without
you know, ripping myself to shreds and being super critical.
So again, this movie I made maybe ten years ago
(51:54):
and it came on and I was like, oh, let
me check this.
Speaker 7 (51:56):
Out, and it was. I actually enjoyed watching it.
Speaker 2 (51:59):
Well, I have fun over there in England. And good
luck with Clipped and thanks for joining us. We appreciate it.
Speaker 7 (52:05):
So nice to talk to you.
Speaker 5 (52:06):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (52:07):
Lauren Here Laurence Fishburne playing the former Clippers head coach
Doc Rivers in FX is Clipped next episodes available today
exclusively on Hulu. A chill guy having a snack while
I'm interviewable. Yes, he's having a snack. I don't know
what he was snacking on. I'm like, got some grapes there, carrots,
(52:29):
whatever it is. He's been in some big time stuff though.
I had heard back in of I think it's Matrix
that he got paid a certain amount of money and
then got like three point four percent backhand of a matrix. Uh,
that's a sizable chunk of change there for him. But
(52:53):
that's pretty cool. And then we got ice Cube tomorrow.
They were in Boys in the Hood. So I'm gonna
bring that up to Q that we had Lawrence on today.
All right, to update the poll results if you can
seat no Connor. By the way, Aaron Rodgers, he is
not a training camp. Is this an unexcused absence for
Aaron Rodgers at Mandatory Mini camp. It looks like that.
(53:19):
Robert sala says, this is an unexcused absence.
Speaker 5 (53:23):
Oh no, yeh see.
Speaker 6 (53:26):
Robert Salaso says, this is very much not a big deal. Okay,
not a big deal at all. Okay, Aaron is that
something that's very important to him? And if this is
important to Aaron, it's important to us. And what is
Aaron Rodgers doing? Well, that's anybody's guess.
Speaker 8 (53:44):
Yes, Marvin, are we playing guest that unexcused absence?
Speaker 18 (53:50):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (53:50):
I get I don't, but I don't know what the
unexcused absence is, Yes, Todd, I think the ayahuasca festivals
in town where they got rides in cotton.
Speaker 11 (53:59):
Can you say what which.
Speaker 24 (54:00):
Take it out.
Speaker 4 (54:02):
Like a carnival?
Speaker 5 (54:07):
Do we know?
Speaker 2 (54:07):
Does anybody have any idea what the unexcused absence is? See,
and you sent me a picture here, that's not it.
That's not it? Okay, alrighty.
Speaker 6 (54:17):
Then that's essentially a picture or a video of a
man lighting his genitals on fire.
Speaker 5 (54:30):
So that's not what Aaron Rodgers is doing. We don't know.
We don't know that for sure. I don't know that
it's possible that I'm gonna rule that out.
Speaker 4 (54:40):
He's already had some other injuries. That's the one to
add to it.
Speaker 5 (54:42):
Yeah, that's funny.
Speaker 4 (54:48):
That is funny. Off air.
Speaker 5 (54:51):
Yeah, you should have you should have come to me. Hey,
this isn't real, just letting you know. Oh oh, it's noth.
Speaker 4 (55:00):
Ready for week one if you're doing something that's true.
Speaker 2 (55:02):
Kyle in Ohio, Hi, Kyle, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 14 (55:09):
Hello?
Speaker 5 (55:10):
Hey Kyle.
Speaker 25 (55:12):
Sorry, Wow, Yeah, I'm actually simultaneously working at the same time. Okay, anyway,
real quick, I just wanted to kind of have a
director rebuttal to a previous caller who brings up to
Michael Jordan getting cut in high school reference.
Speaker 9 (55:27):
The difference is that, you know, at that.
Speaker 25 (55:28):
Point in time he wasn't good, but Caitlyn Clark is
literally good right now.
Speaker 9 (55:33):
So it just doesn't make a lot of sense.
Speaker 2 (55:35):
No, it doesn't, And that's why I pointed out nobody
knew Michael Jordan when he had, you know, he did
the shame of getting cut from his high school team.
Everybody is watching Caitlin Clark, everybody, and everybody has an opinion.
Speaker 5 (55:46):
Todd in Ohio Hi Todd with sonyr mind.
Speaker 18 (55:49):
Good morning Dan.
Speaker 12 (55:50):
I got an opinion too about Kaitlyn Clark, and that
is like Dan Patrick, her constance, her tough and mean
Caitlyn Clark.
Speaker 10 (55:59):
You see what I mean.
Speaker 2 (56:03):
Thank you Todd, Caitlin Clark. I don't know if they
have alternates for the US women's Olympic basketball team. There's
people who are like suggesting that there is a list.
To my knowledge, I don't think there's an actual list, like, hey,
if this person doesn't, then this person goes on the roster.
Speaker 5 (56:25):
I don't know. You know, when you fly stand by.
Speaker 2 (56:28):
And you're waiting for your name up there and you're like, uh,
Jimmy Lipper, Oh yeah, I'm on the flight. I don't
think there's that that this person is not going to play,
then there's the next person up. But there we've been
led to believe that that is the case. I have
not heard that there is an official list, an alternative list.
Speaker 5 (56:46):
Yes, today, it.
Speaker 4 (56:47):
Would be entertaining if they get it that way.
Speaker 10 (56:48):
Well.
Speaker 8 (56:48):
They often get together an airport gate getting ready for Paris,
and the ones that just didn't make the list of
sitting around the gate waiting to see if.
Speaker 5 (56:54):
Their name pops up Nanik you Ton very good.
Speaker 7 (56:56):
Thank you to