July 13, 2024 • 53 mins
Dan Patrick chats with FOX Play-By-Play Voice Gus Johnson about the US Men's Basketball team, the upcoming college football season, and much more. Former Syracuse HC Jim Boeheim gives his thoughts on why Jaylen Brown was not selected to replace Kawhi Leonard on the Men's National Team. Plus, Pirates rookie sensation Paul Skenes joins Dan to explain why he was not surprised when he was pulled after 7 no-hit innings on Thursday. Plus, NL All-Star Manger Torey Lovullo crashes Skenes' interview to deliver some historic news!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to The Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Gus Johnson will be on the call with Bill Raftery
Christina Pink for USA basketball the matchup against Canada. That's
tonight at ten thirty Eastern on FS one. Gus Johnson,
the Fox Sports play by play announcer, joining us on
the program. Hi, Gus, how are you?
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Wow?
Speaker 4 (00:24):
Man?
Speaker 5 (00:24):
I feel like I'm coming in from the wilderness now
that I'm finally back on the Dan Patrick Show. I
mean it's been literally I haven't been on your show
because you.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Don't love me anymore. Dan, I don't know what happened.
Speaker 5 (00:37):
Man, We ain't folk no more.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
It's been over.
Speaker 5 (00:40):
I've been at Fox for fourteen years, and this is
the first time I've been on your show since I
came over to Fox. So I was just letting you
know that today is just like such a wonderful day
to me. I feel like I've accomplished so many things,
and I just feel like I'm on my way up
some kind of beautiful ascending mountain and I'm going to
reach the peak and have an opportunity to look out
(01:01):
over the entire landscape.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Because now I'm back on.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
I don't know, Gus. I think you need to get
a better researcher. Fritzi. Will you do the homework and
tell me the last time Gus Johnson was on the program.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
All Right, we're gonna bet and me and my friends
we have bets we call We're going to bet a
mystical dollar me and you one mystical dollar that I'm.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Going to beat you in this bet. And it's been
over fourteen years.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
I'm going to take the under. Paulie, would you locate
the last time Gus was on We're all over?
Speaker 6 (01:30):
But I know we had them on college basketball related
within the past ten years.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Okay, okay, not mythical dollars. Maybe I'm running my way.
You might be the drake. You might be the drake
of bets with announcer. So you're going to lose this.
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on hold.
I got to stop you right here.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
No, no, no, no, I would never be the drake
of anything you say.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
I'm an American.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
I have not a drake. No, not me.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Don't say that, not me.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Are you going Kendrick Lamar here?
Speaker 5 (02:01):
Hey, listen, listen, You're you're diving into a pool. That
you really don't understand. Don't say that, Okay, don't say.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
That to be I'm an American, I'm not. Don't compare
me to Drake.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
Let me get in the pool right now over the
next one to one to two years, or compare me
to anybody but Drake right now.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Tell me what you're expecting with this Olympic team and
is it on par or for or is it more
talented than the Dream Team, which we've been led to
believe with recent articles here.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Well, I just.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
Got some information today that Kawhi Leonard will not be
playing in the Olympics because he is injured. And is
it better than the Dream Team? I wouldn't agree. I
wouldn't say that, you know. No, I think that they
got a good team, but I think they have an
older team that has injuries. Kevin Durant's got a little
nick Lebron's thirty nine years old, Stuf's getting older now
(03:01):
Kawhi is not playing. I don't think they have the uh,
the same firepower as the Dream Team. No, I wouldn't
say that at all.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Well, they don't have a Jordan and they don't I
don't think they have a Jordan or Berkley and and
those two were you know, Charles I think won the
MVP maybe the year after the Dream Team, and we
of course Mike was in his prime. Now that was
that was kind of a banged up roster too. You know,
Larry Bird wasn't Larry Bird at the time, but you
know that was that was a pretty good All I
(03:31):
know is I still had Mike going out there every
single game. And they don't have Michael Jordan.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
Nobody does, but well not they don't have the Lebron
James in his prime.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
I don't think. Maybe that's what you're saying.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
Yeah, you're right, You're right, they don't. But they have
a good team, a great team, the Hall of Fame
type roster. If they can you know, if they can
stay healthy and get through the entire gauntlet of the
games at the Olympics, I think they can win the
gold medal. But I don't think it's going to be
easy at all. This team Canada, the squad. I've watched
(04:07):
them in practice the last two days and they're very
enthusiastic and confident with their speed and agility and also
with their talent level with SGA leading away.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
So they're gonna be good.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
And you know, Serbia and a number of different countries
around the world, France with all the great young talent
that they have up there. But I think the United
States and you know, they got Steph Curry, Lebron, James,
Devin Booker, all these stars. Hopefully Kevin Durant he can
get healthy and and they'll put on a good show
and come home with another gold medal.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
What would be more embarrassing for Team USA to lose
to Canada or lose to France in the Olympics.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
Well, they lost to Canada last year the Feeble World Cup.
It's a different roster, totally different roster for the Americans,
a couple of holdovers. I don't think anything is gonna
you know, I don't think it's embarrassing anymore. Because these
are NBA players playing against NBA players a lot of times,
and these are pro players playing against pro players.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
I think that.
Speaker 5 (05:13):
Losing to either one of them will be a hit embarrassing.
I wouldn't say that, but I think they expect to
win it, but they know they're going to have to
play their best basketball to win it. So it's like
six on one hand, half a dozen on the other.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
We're talking to Gus Johnson, Fox Sports play by play announcer,
frequent guest in the Dan Patrick Show. PAULI, when's the
last time Gus was on the show?
Speaker 6 (05:43):
Now I can confirm Gus spring of twenty eleven, and
you said fourteen years, that will be thirteen.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
I got it with you know what? That guy goes
to the runner.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
I don't know if we had happened.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
What happened?
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Man?
Speaker 5 (06:05):
You fell out of love with me when I was
the CBS.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
You love me?
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Man?
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Now you know well I talked to you fourteen years.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
We're going to round that up.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
To the you know, highest number, because it just sounds better.
Fourteen better sounds better than thirteen.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Was this back when Northern Iowa, when Ali Fuesh was starring.
I think that when we had I think us was
on that call. Were you on that call? No idea, Wait,
I'm following your career.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Remember what I did last?
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Remember what I did last fifteen years ago?
Speaker 4 (06:39):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Where's the strangest place you've been recognized with your voice?
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Strangest place I've been recognized?
Speaker 5 (06:51):
Well, I would incriminate myself if I actually told you
the truth.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Look at it this way.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
It's a very strange, strange places.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
That you would never expect. You know, I have had
you weren't you? Weren't with James Harden in Houston? Were
you where you got recognized? Okay?
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Never that mean? You know, you know, I travel a lot.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
You know, I've been traveling a lot for the last
thirty five years, so I've I've had some experiences, and
I have been recognized in places, uh, places that that
I didn't think people even really knew I existed.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
So okay, I'll just leave it at that magic city. Yeah,
I understand that expected for me. We're seven weeks out
until college football. What do you how do you prepare
for what you think college football is going to be like?
Or when will you prepare for the shifting landscape? I mean,
(08:00):
I don't think you ever.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
Let's look at it like this, Dad, our jobs are
the easiest jobs in the history of mankind for people
like us that love sports. So prepare What does prepare mean?
That's an interesting word because you're always interested in it
in college football, and you never kind of stopped preparing
because you're always interested.
Speaker 7 (08:23):
In what's going on.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
And last year we had such an exciting season with
Dion and he started out in Colorado. We had a
bunch of his early games and he beat TCU first
game on the road. And then we segue from Dion
to Jim Harbaugh and what was going on with him
with the Big Ten and the NCAA investigation and then
(08:45):
Harball getting suspended, and then Jeron war coming in as
the Michigan interim head coach and leading them all the
way to the Big Ten championship. Jeron Wore beating Ohio
State and then Harball coming back and we weren't there
after the championship. When Harball coaching the championship Big Ten Championship,
(09:07):
that was. So we had an exciting pas and I'm
always looking at it. I'm always interested in what's going
on in college football. And now I'm so exciting with UCLA,
USC Oregon and Washington moving into the Big Ten. So
the schedule looks good for everybody, I mean, not only
US in NBC and CBS. Some good games that are
(09:27):
going to be shown on television overall platforms. So I'm
always looking at him, and I'm always interested in We
got an exciting schedule coming up. We got Texas and
Michigan week two. I think I'm really looking forward to
seeing that when you weres coming back again for Texas
as their quarterback arch manning their backup quarterback now and
(09:47):
going into ann Arbor taking off Michigan now with a
new quarterback, most likely kid named alex Orgy. Big, strong, physical,
I mean, just built like a Greek god, like a
donistist kid, alex Orgi. He's Texas, African American kid. So
it's always something to pay attention to. There's always some
good hot stove topics. So man, I'm always interested in
(10:10):
what's going on with college football. I prepare as soon
as the season ends, which is just keeping.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Up on what's going on.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Talking to Gus Johnson, Fox Sports play by a play announcer,
he'll be on the call tonight. It's a team USA
versus Canada. That's a ten thirty Eastern on FS one.
Where do you stand on the Cooper flag bandwagon? You
in first class seat?
Speaker 5 (10:32):
First class? Oh bit, you know, not only a man
first class. I'm a first class lying on United Arab Emirates.
I don't know if you've been on that play talking
about Furthern's first class and then there's United Arab immiratest folks, Wait,
what's that like?
Speaker 2 (10:49):
First class? Off the move, It's out of the.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
World, It's off the charts being on the United Emirates.
I took a flight over I think from New York
to London one time on that flight and it's just
it's amazing and it's the greatest first class I've ever
been in. So when you asked me the question about Coop,
I'm in the United Arab Emirates first class with this
(11:12):
young man I mean. And I was thinking about him
because I knew you were going to talk to me
about him today, and I figured you would ask me
a question like what makes it is.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
He standing out? And my answer.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
As I thought about it last night, I said, yes,
he is standing out because he's not standing out, meaning.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
On what day did I come to practice? I went
to practice.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
First practice was Monday. They had a great scrimmage between
the the national team and the select team that they
have the practice against him, and I was watching because
I can't take my eye Dan. I can't excuse me
for rambling, but I can't take my eyes off Lebron
James because ever seen Lebron James prior to Monday practice,
(12:05):
I've never seen him practice. I had a chance to
watch him practice the last two days, and what's amazing
to me is, here's a man that's arguably the greatest
player in the history of the game of basketball, who
you know, has a very very good argument to become
to be the goat. And as I watched him practice,
(12:25):
and I kept my eyes on him the entire time
both days, he worked like well Lebron James in practice,
worked like he was trying to make the team at
thirty nine. I mean, his energy, his determination, is commitment,
all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
He plays so hard.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
So to answer your question about Cooper Flag, does he
stand out? No, Well, that was my question.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Does he stand out?
Speaker 5 (12:57):
No, he doesn't stand out because he just fits in
like he's just normally a part of this situation. And
he's seventeen years old. I saw Lebron James checking him,
checking him in the scrimmage and Cooper Flag was playing
point guard at seventeen years old at sixty nine against
Lebron James, and he he didn't flinch.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
It was nothing.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
It was just like he's playing against some kids that
he played against in high school. A few months back
in Maine. I mean, this kid, it's it's you know,
it's really amazing as a sportscaster, especially a guy that's
always on the road and still walks into the locker
rooms unlike a lot of you know people in today's sportscasting,
(13:42):
you know, working locker rooms and being around people. It's
so interesting when you run into a person.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
That is.
Speaker 8 (13:54):
Special, just just as a baby, as a young person,
and you just see the future, like Lebron James when
he was a kid out of high schools on Sports Illustrator.
Speaker 5 (14:06):
I'll never forget the chosen One. This Cooper Flag is
the real deal. And it's just I was thinking as
I was watching them, I was like, here's a kid
that's seventeen years old playing against not only the best
players in the world, but some of the greatest players
of all time, playing with them, fitting in, not dominating,
but being effective.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
And he's seventeen and now what is this July?
Speaker 5 (14:30):
So he's got August, so he's got another month, and
then he's gonna walk onto a college campus and have
to play against college kids.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
This is gonna be.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Phenomenal to watch.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
Just I mean, I can't wait to watch Duke, and
he's only gonna be there for a year, so he's
gonna be the number one player in the Drive. There's
no question about it. I mean, we are looking at
the future of the NBA, the future of American basketball,
which makes me feel good because if you look, you're
seeing all these international guys winning MVP, mvs. Dantage's joke,
(15:05):
its antety Coombo's And now you got a guy like
Anthony Edwards, who the young up and coming cat American
and this Cooper Flag is going to be uh, he's
going to be special over the next fifteen years. So
it's just, uh, it's a treat, you know. I was
sitting there saying to myself, I can't believe that they
pay me to do this.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
But I'm not going to tell.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
Anybody, you know, Dan, don't tell nobody.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Man, I won't tell nobody. They pay us for this, right,
I promise you. So we'll talk to you in twenty
thirty eight. Does that sound about right? Next time we'll
have you on here.
Speaker 5 (15:38):
Well, I mean that's usually what kind of schedule you
had me on. So but I'll be here and.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Thanks for doing otherwise everything good.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Yeah, you're doing otherwise.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
I've been spoken to you.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
You're good, You've always treated me great.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Everything's good, no complaints. I still get to do this, guys,
That's that's the fun part. I mean, after a while,
I don't take it for granted. But I'm very fortunate
that you know, you survive and this is it's a
young person's business, and you just try to make sure
they eventually tap you on the shoulder and say come here,
(16:12):
bring your playbook. But until then, we get well to
do it every day.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
That's what's up, man, And you're absolutely right.
Speaker 5 (16:20):
Words can't express the amount of gratitude that I have
put a good to the Good Lord for allowing me to.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Do this for a living in this particular lifetime.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
But I don't think it's a young man's game one
hundred percent. I think it's a game of men, and
I think guys like us who have survived that bring
a certain kind of wisdom to this job and to
the covering and the chronicling and the you know, of
sports is a big deal and you do a fantastic job.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
You have always I learned a lot from you.
Speaker 5 (16:48):
As I mentioned to you, about fifteen years, I haven't
been on the show with sixty seventeen, eighteen years something
like that.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
It's still twenty eleven, job twenty eleven.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
It's kind of a mentor.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
You've always come to be kind of a mentor because
not only you know, are you Dan?
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Are you credible.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
As a journalist, but you know, you just have a way,
a style of grace about yourself. And I really admire
of that, and I'm really a big fan of you
and your shows and everything you've done during your your
illustrious career.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
You know, if you keep talking that way, I'm going
to have you on probably on Monday again. You know,
That's what I'm hoping. Get my best to RAF and
tonight you got it. It'll be ten thirty Eastern. It'll
be Team USA against Canada. Thank you Gus for joining us.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
All right, man, you got a guys, Thank you for
having me Dan.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
I'll talk to you.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Soon, I hope.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Gus Johnson, Fox Sports playback play announcer. I didn't realize
it had been that long, yes, Paul.
Speaker 6 (17:45):
Well after the twenty eleven and Say Tournament, Gus took
the big job at Fox, mostly football, and you know
he's very missed at the CBS at the Nay tournament.
He was fantastic at the turnament.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
See if they let j Billis do game. I thought
that they would let Gus do a couple of them.
Speaker 6 (18:03):
Foxes look great if they loaned out Gus for a
couple of nca tournament game.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
And I know you want to develop your announcers, play
by play announcers, younger announcers. I get that, but it
would have been nice. I like, I wanted Dick my
Town to get a chance to do a big game
because I don't know who's been more instrumental in selling
the game of college basketball than Dick EV. And I
know DICKYV listens to the show, and I hope he's
(18:27):
feeling better. His cancer is back, and you know he
lost his good friend Howie Schwab, So yeah, Dick is
surrounded by great people, but you know, he's been the
face and the voice of college basketball for such a
long long time.
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Speaker 2 (19:06):
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Speaker 1 (19:10):
What are you doing interrupting our promo? Yeah, you wasn't
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Speaker 9 (19:17):
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Speaker 2 (19:30):
Yeing just because he retired and he can't escape us.
Jim Beheim joining us from a Las Vegas special assistant
to the Syracuse Director of Athletics, the Basketball Hall of Famer,
and he joins us on the program. How are you, coach?
Speaker 4 (19:49):
I've never been better happy as I can be, and
I'm losing money in the poker room at the Wind
Casino as I speak to you.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Are you what kind of poker player are you?
Speaker 4 (20:02):
I'm pretty average, But out here this they just broke
up the World Series of Poker, So all the guys
here played in it, so I'm below average in that group.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Okay, just be careful. You're not spending you know, your
your savings there. I don't.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
No, well, I'm still getting you know money, you know,
like you guys are paying me a lot, you know
a lot of money to be on your show. So yeah,
you know, I can, I can play. I can put
my blind up one hand for that. No, No, it's
been great, but I'm really retired and I won't have
I won't be doing any your show.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Oh you're not, You're you're all. We're gonna find you.
We're gonna track you down. We're gonna track you down.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Now, are you just watching Olympic basketball? What exactly are
you doing in Vegas?
Speaker 4 (20:48):
I'm in here to watch. I watched the game last night,
watched practice the other day, and then I'm gonna watch
Summer League. Buddy, my son is playing in the Summer League,
so I will watch that for a couple of days.
And but it was fun watching the Olympic team practice.
This is a really good basketball team. You know, they
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didn't shoot it well particularly well last night, but they
really the defense was really good and I think they're
going to be really good. They've got I think it's
important for Kevin Durant to get healthy. He's he's probably
the best international player of all of our players because
he can shoot it so deep and he's so long.
(21:32):
He's been our best international player. We'd like to have him,
but you know, to have Steph Curry and how they
in the back court. You know, Lebron obviously still is
playing at a high level. We've got center's position, Anthony Davis, Embiid.
You know, it'd be interesting to see how Embied makes progress.
(21:53):
He looks a little you know, he was hurt at
the end of last year. I don't know if he's
fully healthy. But they've got a really good team Tatum.
You know, obviously coming off a big, big year, they
might have too many players, but I think the coaching
staff who I think they'll work it out and I
think it'll be. I think it'll be. This will be
(22:14):
a great Olympic team, and we'll need to be good
because it's not easy. France is going to be really good,
and obviously Slovakia a couple of other countries over there
are good as well, so it's it'll be a test.
The problem with the Olympics. In the international ball, it's
only a forty minute game, so you can't get off
to a slow start. And it's a one and done
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once you get to the medal round. If you play
one bad game, you're done. So it's it's not that
easy to win a go metal. It really isn't. And
but I think I think this team certainly is got
a great chance to win.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Okay, help me understand building a team. You said they
might have too many players. Jalen Brown is Jalen Brown's
coming off an unbelievable NBA finals and you take his
teammate and Jalen Brown sent out some cryptic messages like
what's going on here? So is this a case of
(23:11):
too many stars? And you need to have some foot
soldiers here? And that's why Jaylen Brown did not get picked.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
No, no, not at all, because the guy they added
is a star too. I mean, I think they didn't
release this, so I'm guessing a little bit here, but
I think they felt they needed another guard that could
pressure the ball in case something drew, how they got
hurt or something. I think they feel his teammate from
(23:39):
the Celtics can also pressure the ball very hard. So
you got to understand these two guys just want a
championship too, so they're used to each other. I think
it's a good move. I think at the forward spot,
you got Kevin Durant, you got Jason Tatum, somebody I'm forgetting.
I'm sure right now.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
You got Anthony Davis.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
No, I'm talking that forwards, but Gill just plays for Canada.
Give me a break. I know you're good, but you're not.
You're having a bad morning attention. But they got Jason
tannem they got Lebron and foward, they got Anthony Davis
at center of course. But you know, Jalen Brown is
a great player, There's no question about it. And it's
(24:28):
always tough to leave a guy like that. I mean
he's an Olympic player. I mean he's as good as
these guys. And it's just the way they decided when
they picked the team. They try to fit the guys
as better. I went through this for three times. We
picked three Olympic teams, and you're always there's always somebody
you may well, maybe this guy or maybe that guy,
(24:49):
and you know it's it's hard. Jalen Brown is a
great player. I don't think anybody's disputing that, and I'm
sure that they. I think they felt when this happened.
They had Kawhi obviously, and Kawhi Leonards as good as anybody,
so they were set at forward. When Kawhi went down,
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I think they made the decision they wanted another guard
that could pressure the ball. It's a little bit of
guesswork on my part, but I think that's what I
heard from conversations. But yeah, I mean it's it's always tough.
Aleen Brown is a great player. I mean, that's a
tough That's not an easy leave off by any stretch
(25:33):
of the imagination. But they have a great team. I'm
anxious to see employ. I think when they get rolling,
they've got We never had the shot blockers with like
Anthony Davis and Joean b We didn't have that really
with our Olympic teams. We had the guard playing the
forward play, but we didn't have that shot. Maybe got
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a shot blocker. They changed shots last night, So and
they're gonna have to contend with when Bayana and they're
gonna have to with go bear with France. That's always
gonna be tough. But I just I like this team
I think they'll be fun to watch, and I think
the Olympics will be great. I think it'll be a
great team to watch see how they developed.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Talking to Jim Beaheim, basketball Hall of Famer says he's retired,
but not really Cooper Flag, Oh what did you think?
Speaker 4 (26:27):
Great player? Great player. I'm not gonna you know, I
try to. I don't like to build up guys and
just all this and that. But I'm just telling you
he's as good as anybody you know, a long, long,
long time. He can go. He went right up against
these guys, and these guys are meant here. I mean
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he went right up against him. He can sure, he
handles the ball, he's tough, he's a different guy. He's
a different guy. He's I'm not sure he can't play
right now. Team. I mean, he's really good, and he's
he's a difference he's a difference maker. There's gonna be
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a lot of people trying to get that number one
draft pick next year. He's really good. He's been good
for a long time. And he's tough. He's got toughness,
and you know, he's a team player. He passes, he shoots,
this guy, he block shots, you know he can play two, three,
four one. If he had two probably, I'm not sure
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he couldn't play the five miss.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Capable of making this rule. Is he good enough to
be on this roster on the Olympic tam.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
Well, you would never. I don't think you'd ever put
a kid like that. We had Kevin Durant in the
same situation when our first Olympics, and he was really good,
but we didn't put him on. Okay, you know his
time came, and Kevin's been on what this is third
or fourth, So sometimes a young player, he would like
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to one Clark, her time's gonna come. She's gonna be
on two or three Olympic teams. But you kind of
like to go with the veterans a little bit. At
this stage. You're getting that one game playoff and it's
for the golden medal. Do you want a seventeen year
old titter and you want Kevin Durant and Lebron James
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on the court? I mean, that's an easy answer. Even
I think you can get that answer. But I don't
know why I'm picking on you, my best friends for years.
But anyway, Cooper Flag is going to be fun to
watch and there's some really good young players coming up
in college basketball for a year. They'll be there for
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at least we'll see him for a year. But it'll
be fun. I work with Carlos Boozer a lot, and
he was a great guy to work with. By the way,
his son's really good, so you know, they're just as much.
I tell him all the time, Tyler's he's much better
than you are. But you know, it's it's fun to
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watch these guys. It'll be fun to watch this Olympic team.
And it's not that much fun to be in college
basketball right now. And I wish we had somebody like
Dave Gavitt that could be there to tell these guys
what to do and how to how to fix what
we've got. But I don't I don't think. I don't
see that coming. And I don't want to sound like
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a grumpy old man that doesn't like the today's world,
because you know whatever, it's just really it's really crazy
now in college basketball.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
And what did you think of Dan Hurley turning down
the Lakers to stay at Connecticut.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
I love Dan hill He's a great college coach. I
think it's sometimes hard for some coaches to go from
college to the NBA. It's a different mindset. You know,
you're not yelling at Lebron James and Anthony Davis five
times a week. You know they're not listening. They're not
listening to that. And I think Danny's great. He's tough
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and he gets on his players and it works in
college and he's figured out he's the best college coach.
I'm happy for him that he went back. I think
he's better suited in college. You know, Mike Shishawski made
a decision many years ago that he was a better
suited college coach and it worked out pretty good for him.
I think this will work out well for Danny Hurley maybe.
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I mean, he can try it again if he wants to,
he can try it up there, but it's I think
it I would say his style. I think it would
be hard up there. But you know, the people of
Connecticut don't like me that much anyway, so I don't
want to say anything bad about him.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
But anyway, they like you. You're gone, they like you,
I'm sure, okay, but they beat it enough. Tougher transition
though coach if Dan Hurley was leaving Connecticut to go
to the Lakers or JJ Reddick, who's never coached going
to the Lakers.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
Well, JJ knows the league. He's smart, he understands the league.
He's close, pretty close with Lebron, which will help. But
it's a tough team to coach. I mean, Lebron's forty
one years old, and Anthony, who was a great player,
gets hurt if one of them go down. They're not winning.
And the West the last time I looked, and I'd like,
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I watch all you know, I watched too much basketball anyway,
But the last I looked, the West is pretty done
good out there. It's not going to be easy to
do much out there when you look at some of
the players and some of the teams that are out there.
I think it's going to be very hard. And the
Lakers don't understand anything except winning.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
You know.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
It's like I don't I don't think that Daryl Ham
did that better job coaching there, but they didn't win.
So you know, you coach there a couple of years,
you don't win, you're probably not going to be coaching
there again any longer. But it's a tough team to coach.
I mean, it's if those two guys say perfectly healthy
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and can have big years. They'll be in it, but
it'll be it'll be tough for them. And uh but
jj reddick. You know one other guy came out of
the booth, you know, the coach you remember him. He
turned out pretty good named pat Riley, Remember him? Yeah? Yeah,
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he turned out to be a pretty good coach, didn't he. Yeah, yeah,
so it can be done.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
But you know, magic and Kareem could make me a
good coach though, just saying, well, he did.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
Pretty good in New York too, I mean he elevated
them pretty good.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
All right in Miamis.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
You know you can say that about Phil Jackson too.
You know he had a few guys too. Any coach
that wins in the NBA wins as good players. Read
our back. I love redd our back. But until the
guy guy Russell got there, they never want anything. And
then when Russell got they won a lot of games.
They won a lot of games and a lot of championships.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Okay, who's the best Who's the best coach of all
time in the NBA?
Speaker 4 (33:12):
Yeah, which I'm not an expert at so they'll just
laugh at me. But uh, I think it's it's it's
hard I mean, I like, I like Greg Popuy. I
think he's a great coach. I put him and Phil
Jackson right there with Red Ahrobeck. I mean, those guys
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you can't deny. They want it. They won titles and
they're great coaches, you know. I mean it's hard to
talk about coaches different eras and different things. I mean,
John Wooden was always considered the greatest coach because what
he did and he is, and Mike Kryshewsky's the best
coach in modern what I call modern basketball, which is
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kind of old basketball because I'm old.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
But did.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
You know we lost We lost the Michigan State the
year that Michigan State played in the state in the finals,
we lost them. We lost before we got to the
Michigan State game. So yeah, no we didn't. Bird was
He's a great player, Top five, one of my top
five players all the time. I mean, as simple as that.
It's not that hard to pick these guys. Everybody argues
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about all this stuff. Michael Joins the best player they
ever played. I mean, there's no there's not a debate
about it. It's it's over.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Lebron is not close to Michael Jordan in your opinion.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
Well, he's close. He's close.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
It's no argument.
Speaker 4 (34:35):
Well no, there isn't, but it's he's close. But he
you know, he's great. He's on that team. Top five players.
I mean, Magic Johnson's on that team. I mean there's
top five players, no question about it.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
I'm writing down. So you got Bird, Magic and Michael.
Now I got room for two more in your top five?
Speaker 4 (34:59):
Well, yeah, I think Lebron's okay.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Now I got room for one more.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
Well, the problem with picking centers is you can fight
all your life about it. I picked Bill Russell because
he won a hundred.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
Championships eleven eleven, Yeah and.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
A that's true.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
Yeah, so I picked Bill Russell. I mean most people
don't pick them. That's okay. My sons laugh at me
when I pick them, but that's all right. They're not
that smart. By the way, take after me.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Jimson. Buddy is playing with Oklahoma City in the Summer League,
and his older son Jimmy just signed with the team
in Germany. So yes, I'll be spending it home.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
How are you aware of all that stuff? Geez, that's good.
You're on top of things.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Now, Well, I scouted better than you scouted. Let's put
it that way.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
Well, I don't know. I did pretty good the wife's category.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
I think she scouted you. Well okay, okay, well okay,
hold on, harder to close, harder to close your wife
or Carmelo, Anthony, No.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
You're supposed to who is the most important?
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Well, I know who that is. It's Carmelo.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
And I'm not going to answer that question on the radio,
not ever.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
Nope, nope, that'll come back to haunt you, all right.
Don't lose your life savings out there. Okay, just okay,
I'm on a budget.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
I'm on a budget.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
I'm limited, good, very limited.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
Yes, I'm on Social Security.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Great to catch up with you. Play nice out there,
all right, thank you. That's Jim bay Hunt, Jim Hunt,
Hall of Fame coach. More important Carmelo or his wife.
That's why I said I can't answer that out on
the radio. Tough for to close his wife or Carmelo.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
See why did we decide it was top ten? Why
the number ten? We love round numbers. Why not twenty?
Well we can do that, It just takes a longer
time to do twenty. He gave me top five, right,
so it's really easy to go all right, let's hear
you're top five coach. We decided that it's like you
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have a top ten. I don't know. We could do
a top seven if you want. We could do top seven.
We could do a top thirteen. Why not top nine?
All the single digit? Top nine to ten? Sorry, double
digit's not as good. All right, you're sounding like Todd
right now, and you don't want to sound like Todd. Okay, Sorry,
I can always sound like me. Okay. I didn't know
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it's going to be that detrimental to the show to
actually do that. That's pretty good, Thank you, Tod. And Todd,
by the ways, has a Roger Bennett impersonation. He'll have
that four you coming up after the break.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
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Speaker 2 (38:12):
There were six shutouts in baseball on Thursday, and that
ties the most in one day this season. One of
those shutouts the Pirates, led by Paul Skeins over Milwaukee
and Paul Joins is now struck out eleven and seven
no hit innings. How's the arm today?
Speaker 10 (38:32):
A little sore I've moved it around too much. But yeah,
it's a little sore.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
But how normal is that? It's normal?
Speaker 10 (38:39):
Yeah, every every time I pitched, just you know, little stiffness,
a little soreness. But I mean that's kind of how it goes.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
How is your bullpen session before you started? Yesterday? That
was good.
Speaker 10 (38:52):
I had to it took a little bit to loosen up.
I think the day games will get you sometimes so,
but it was a good bullpen, probably one of the
better better ones this year.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
Is that always an indicator because some pitchers will say
I was terrible in the bullpen, and then I got
on the mound, I was lights out.
Speaker 10 (39:08):
Yeah, I will say having a terrible bullpen seems to
be a good thing. Sometimes you get all the bad
pitches out of the way before then you go out
there and just just pitch. But sometimes it's a good
thing to have a good bullpen before the game too.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
All Right, when did you realize you had something special yesterday?
Speaker 10 (39:25):
Probably after the game, to be honest, in the moment,
it was just kind of going out there and competing
and executing, executing the game plan. But yeah, in the moment,
I wasn't too caught up in it.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
When you go into the dugout you just completed the seventh.
What's the conversation you're having or is there a conversation
you're having with your manager?
Speaker 10 (39:48):
Yeah, I mean I was talking with our pitching coach
and our game planning coordinator more than more than a sheltery,
our manager, but just kind of telling them how I
was feeling. And you know what I thought about the hitters,
you know, going to the next inning, and I wasn't
really expecting to go back out for the eighth in general,
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So it wasn't at all a surprise when when they
pulled me.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
You realized you had a no hitter. I did. Yeah,
if you had a perfect game poll, would you have
fought to go back out? Probably?
Speaker 10 (40:26):
I think just just the way that I am. I
think going all the way back to high school and
then in college too, like you don't if you get pulled,
you get pulled, you're not you're not talking it in,
You're not talking yourself back into the game. And so
that's something that I think I'm getting used to a
little bit, is, Uh, we have a little bit more
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pull here that I've had in the past. So maybe
going forward, I will start to fight. But that's kind
of just not how I not how I do it.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
I guess, well, I wondered about that because you're a rookie,
so you got to be like, what am I allowed
to do as a rookie and not allowed to do?
You know? Does my manager want me to fight to
go back out there? Like, I don't know if you
have those range of emotions thereof Am I allowed to
say anything here? Yeah?
Speaker 10 (41:16):
And I think it's happened a couple of times already
this year, where you know, he tells me I'm out
of the game, not just here, but also in ta
A two. You know, he tells me I'm out of
the game. And then he comes up to me after
the game and he's like, well, I was expecting you
to fight a little bit more, and next time I
think you should fight a little bit. And I'm like, well,
you're my manager, You're you're not supposed to be advocating
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for me to fight against it. But uh, I mean
it's a little different.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
How important is velocity when you're pitching When you see
something on the gun where I think he had to
pitch one oh two point six or your sinker was
ninety seven, Like, are those What kind of indicators are
those for you that you can use in a game?
If any, it's really good.
Speaker 10 (42:00):
And a lot of the stadiums have metrics on the
scoreboard too now that show exactly how your pitches are moving,
and and and that that that stuff can only help pictures,
I feel like because it gives them as it gives
us a better indicator of where where we are, you know,
if our fastballs flatter, if our you know, my sinker
is running more, my slider has more more sweep on
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it than normal than it gives gives me a better
indication of how to use those pitches and where I
need to throw them to get you know, takes and
swing and miss.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
And that kind of thing. When did you know you
were great?
Speaker 10 (42:35):
I don't know if I am yet.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
The potential for being great, Yeah, I don't know. It
had to be one of those moments where you go, damn,
I'm pretty good.
Speaker 10 (42:47):
Maybe, uh. I think I think we we kind of
started to realize what we had a little bit in
college last year, you know, because I went to to
l s U from Air Force and I was I
was a good pitcher at air Force. But it wasn't
It wasn't anything crazy, I don't think. And then got
got to l s U and and kind of grew
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into my body and learned how to pitch a little bit,
and then you know, started facing college hitters, SEC hitters
and that kind of thing, and and there there was
a little bit more noise around it too, so.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
It changed, it changed.
Speaker 10 (43:22):
It changed quick for me really once once we got
into the season at LSU. But that's you know, college
college baseball and pro baseball are very very different things.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
Could you have stepped out of L s U right
into the major leagues?
Speaker 10 (43:38):
I don't know, especially looking over the past year, because
from l s U I only had one fastball. Now
I have Now I have two fastballs, and just as
a pitcher, it's a lot easier to pitch with two
fastballs than it is one.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
Explain that. Explain the two fastballs.
Speaker 10 (43:56):
Yeah, basically, if they're if they're you know, if they're
on heater, and they know that it's going to do this,
and then they have to worry about the breaking balls
and that kind of thing. Uh, those are very different things.
But if you're throwing two, you know, fastballs with some
dello and one of them does this and one of
them does this. You it's it's hard to cover both
of them. And so you know, swing and miss is
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one thing, but also getting early contact and and weak
contact and ground balls and that kind of thing that
that's what a sinker specifically is good for. That's why
a lot of guys arore sinkers and cutters and and
four teams. A lot of guys have three fastballs now.
But I didn't have two fastballs when I was at LSU.
So that was something that came along after that that
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I you know, started working on when I got to
pro ball, and but that I think that's the one
thing that has made the transition a lot easier for me,
is just having two fastballs.
Speaker 2 (44:52):
He's Paul Schemes, the Pirates pitcher and on the All
Star team. Do you know, like, are you pitching? Have
you heard anything? If you're pitching in the All Star Game,
that's the plan I'm lined up to do it. That
The you know, the convenient thing about that as I
pitched on a Thursday and the All Star Games on Tuesday,
so that would be a you know, four days rest,
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which I haven't done in the big leagues. This year,
but I did it in Triple A a couple of times,
so that that which is normal rest for a starting
pitcher for the most part. So the plan, the plan
is definitely to throw in the All Star Game. Where's
your power come from?
Speaker 10 (45:31):
From my lower half? To put one thing on it?
But I think, I think just being strong in the
lower half and then.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
But explain that though to parents or younger kids who
like growing up. I always thought, I mean, you're throwing
with your arm, but you see some of these guys
lower body, especially pitchers. You know Verlander and Nolan Ryan
and you know all of these guys who are power pitchers.
But explain how you use your lower body to create
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that power.
Speaker 10 (46:01):
Yeah, I think having lower body strength is one thing,
and lower body power is one thing. And you can
lift a lot of weight and you can you know,
do all that, but then you know you have that
and then the sequencing comes into play about how your
low body is moving in comparison to your upper body,
making sure that it's all timed up because they're you know,
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you can you look at body builders and that kind
of thing, and they can, you know, lift a lot
of weight, but they can't sequence their body to throw
a baseball correct, and that that's a that's an extreme example,
but that's kind of the way I think about it.
And then you look at guys that are, you know,
super skinny, and if I had to guess, they probably
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can't put up four hundred pounds in a back squad,
and they can still throw a hundred just because they
they have good power output and they sequence their body
up right and everything kind of falls into place.
Speaker 2 (46:59):
You can like a scientist here. I try to be like,
are you fascinated with the science of of all of this?
Speaker 10 (47:07):
Yeah, I mean I think you can run yourself into
a hole with some of that, and some guys do
with like, you know, you just go down to too
much of a rabbit hole thinking about that kind of thing.
So I try to find the medium there of you know,
the science of it and then actually going out there
and competing. But everything matters, for sure, and I think
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the I've been I've been super blessed to have a
lot of coaches over the past, you know, a few
years who have helped me with my development and pitching
and allowed me to figure it out a little bit
on my own, as well as you know, providing me
some directions, so I think I know where to look
and what to look at and what to not look at.
Speaker 2 (47:51):
Just as importantly, what was it like April eighth, twenty
eighteen when you go watch Sho Heyo Tani pitch?
Speaker 10 (48:02):
You got the actual date?
Speaker 4 (48:03):
Huh?
Speaker 2 (48:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (48:05):
That was?
Speaker 2 (48:05):
What was that?
Speaker 3 (48:06):
His first? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (48:08):
Home start?
Speaker 10 (48:09):
Yeah, it was cool, and so I think we got
the tickets because Matt Chapman was on the A's and
he was playing against him, and so we got him
through our our high school coach.
Speaker 2 (48:21):
He struck out twelve in that game.
Speaker 10 (48:24):
Yeah, and I remember guys were you know, swinging its
splitters that are bouncing on the grass and he's throwing
a hundred and and it was just it was it
was cool. And I'm watching it from the stands and
but it is. It is cool to watch the games
from the dots.
Speaker 2 (48:39):
Do you want to do?
Speaker 10 (48:41):
You?
Speaker 2 (48:41):
Do you want to? I mean, you're you how much
do you miss hitting?
Speaker 10 (48:45):
I miss it, but I I don't miss how my
body felt when when I was hitting and pitching, and
and the amount of work that you have to do
to to you know, stay on the field and stay healthy.
It's a lot which you know, all the power to
show to do that every single day. That's unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (49:03):
He's Paul Skin's the fourth pitcher since eighteen ninety three
to record zero hits and ten strikeouts and multiple outings
in a single season. He's six and zero. ERA is
one point nine to zero. Yes, Tod, We've.
Speaker 9 (49:18):
Just received a call from Arizona Diamondbacks manager Tory Lavello
wanted to check in with you and Paul Night.
Speaker 2 (49:25):
Well, Tory's the National League All Star manager? Hey, what's up?
Speaker 3 (49:32):
What's up?
Speaker 4 (49:32):
Dan?
Speaker 7 (49:32):
How are you doing this morning?
Speaker 2 (49:33):
Good?
Speaker 4 (49:34):
Good?
Speaker 2 (49:34):
I'm conducting an interview here. What's going on?
Speaker 4 (49:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (49:38):
Well, I look at I thought it was my time
to just butt in on a really special moment. I
could see you guys were having your special time. But Paul,
first of all, how are you doing? I just wanted
to congratulate you. I've chosen you to be the starter
for the Nationally and the twenty twenty four All Star Game.
I'm really really excited for you. So unbelievable honor and
one that's so well.
Speaker 2 (49:58):
They're around her plum.
Speaker 10 (50:00):
That's that's unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
That's awesome.
Speaker 7 (50:07):
Yeah, like I said, so well deserved and we're we're
super excited to make this announcement. And uh, you know,
you represent so many great things that this game, this
game craves you know. It's it's such a great story.
The way you've come on the scene scene, the way
you've done done it with such humbleness. Uh, it's it's noticeable.
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And uh, you know, I'll be honored to uh be
your manager, and I'm gonna be honored to be watching
you throw your first pitch. Super excited about that.
Speaker 2 (50:36):
Are you accepting this? Paul? Okay, I just wanted to
make sure we got to get it official here Torri
is Paul on a pitch count?
Speaker 4 (50:47):
Uh you know, well, we'll see what's going on here.
Speaker 3 (50:50):
We gotta love the pitchers.
Speaker 10 (50:51):
We got to get through.
Speaker 7 (50:52):
So listen, that's a tough question for me right now,
but we got to love of guys get through. Paul's
getting He's gonna throw a big zero there the first
and we'll take it from there.
Speaker 2 (51:01):
It's awesome you called in. Thank you, toy, Thank you
very much, thank you. Well, how about that?
Speaker 10 (51:10):
That's cool, that's really cool.
Speaker 2 (51:12):
Yeah, do you ever get really excited, like crazy, like
that's a big deal. You're you're starting the All Star Game,
your parents? You want to call any money right now?
Speaker 10 (51:23):
Yeah, I think my parents are watching the show right now,
but so, but you know, i'll give him a call after. Yeah,
that that's cool. Uh, And I'll probably get more excited
leading up to the game, hopefully I have a full
night sleep before.
Speaker 2 (51:40):
But yeah, I haven't.
Speaker 10 (51:41):
I haven't put much thought into it because I've been
getting asked about it a little bit, you know, the
past few days, and I haven't been given much much
thought into it just because I had, you know, the
game yesterday obviously too. So now I can focus my
attention on that. And that's that's pretty dang cool. Who
you looking forward to facing that first hitting? Oh man,
(52:02):
I can't put one guy above the others because you Yeah,
I'm guessing it's gonna be Henderson, Soto and Judge. So
they're all pretty dang good players.
Speaker 4 (52:16):
So you know, the.
Speaker 2 (52:17):
Folks on getting them out of you know what, You're
not this flustered. You don't get flustered when you're on
the mound. You're flustered right now.
Speaker 10 (52:25):
It's a Yeah, that was a surprise. Yeah, I wasn't
expecting that.
Speaker 2 (52:29):
Well, we say all over to your parents and congratulations
to them, because behind every great athlete or great parents
who helped you along the way. So congrats. It's a
great moment here and uh hope many more for you.
Speaker 10 (52:43):
Yeah, thank you very much, really cool. Thanks for being
able to share it with me. Yes, we'll always have this, Paul, Yes, sir,
Yes we did it. We got you on the All
Star team. It's the starting pitcher. Thank you, Bud Pall
Schemes
You are listening to The Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Gus Johnson will be on the call with Bill Raftery
Christina Pink for USA basketball the matchup against Canada. That's
tonight at ten thirty Eastern on FS one. Gus Johnson,
the Fox Sports play by play announcer, joining us on
the program. Hi, Gus, how are you?
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Wow?
Speaker 4 (00:24):
Man?
Speaker 5 (00:24):
I feel like I'm coming in from the wilderness now
that I'm finally back on the Dan Patrick Show. I
mean it's been literally I haven't been on your show
because you.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Don't love me anymore. Dan, I don't know what happened.
Speaker 5 (00:37):
Man, We ain't folk no more.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
It's been over.
Speaker 5 (00:40):
I've been at Fox for fourteen years, and this is
the first time I've been on your show since I
came over to Fox. So I was just letting you
know that today is just like such a wonderful day
to me. I feel like I've accomplished so many things,
and I just feel like I'm on my way up
some kind of beautiful ascending mountain and I'm going to
reach the peak and have an opportunity to look out
(01:01):
over the entire landscape.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Because now I'm back on.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
I don't know, Gus. I think you need to get
a better researcher. Fritzi. Will you do the homework and
tell me the last time Gus Johnson was on the program.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
All Right, we're gonna bet and me and my friends
we have bets we call We're going to bet a
mystical dollar me and you one mystical dollar that I'm.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Going to beat you in this bet. And it's been
over fourteen years.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
I'm going to take the under. Paulie, would you locate
the last time Gus was on We're all over?
Speaker 6 (01:30):
But I know we had them on college basketball related
within the past ten years.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Okay, okay, not mythical dollars. Maybe I'm running my way.
You might be the drake. You might be the drake
of bets with announcer. So you're going to lose this.
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on hold.
I got to stop you right here.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
No, no, no, no, I would never be the drake
of anything you say.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
I'm an American.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
I have not a drake. No, not me.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Don't say that, not me.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Are you going Kendrick Lamar here?
Speaker 5 (02:01):
Hey, listen, listen, You're you're diving into a pool. That
you really don't understand. Don't say that, Okay, don't say.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
That to be I'm an American, I'm not. Don't compare
me to Drake.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
Let me get in the pool right now over the
next one to one to two years, or compare me
to anybody but Drake right now.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Tell me what you're expecting with this Olympic team and
is it on par or for or is it more
talented than the Dream Team, which we've been led to
believe with recent articles here.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Well, I just.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
Got some information today that Kawhi Leonard will not be
playing in the Olympics because he is injured. And is
it better than the Dream Team? I wouldn't agree. I
wouldn't say that, you know. No, I think that they
got a good team, but I think they have an
older team that has injuries. Kevin Durant's got a little
nick Lebron's thirty nine years old, Stuf's getting older now
(03:01):
Kawhi is not playing. I don't think they have the uh,
the same firepower as the Dream Team. No, I wouldn't
say that at all.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Well, they don't have a Jordan and they don't I
don't think they have a Jordan or Berkley and and
those two were you know, Charles I think won the
MVP maybe the year after the Dream Team, and we
of course Mike was in his prime. Now that was
that was kind of a banged up roster too. You know,
Larry Bird wasn't Larry Bird at the time, but you
know that was that was a pretty good All I
(03:31):
know is I still had Mike going out there every
single game. And they don't have Michael Jordan.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
Nobody does, but well not they don't have the Lebron
James in his prime.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
I don't think. Maybe that's what you're saying.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
Yeah, you're right, You're right, they don't. But they have
a good team, a great team, the Hall of Fame
type roster. If they can you know, if they can
stay healthy and get through the entire gauntlet of the
games at the Olympics, I think they can win the
gold medal. But I don't think it's going to be
easy at all. This team Canada, the squad. I've watched
(04:07):
them in practice the last two days and they're very
enthusiastic and confident with their speed and agility and also
with their talent level with SGA leading away.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
So they're gonna be good.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
And you know, Serbia and a number of different countries
around the world, France with all the great young talent
that they have up there. But I think the United
States and you know, they got Steph Curry, Lebron, James,
Devin Booker, all these stars. Hopefully Kevin Durant he can
get healthy and and they'll put on a good show
and come home with another gold medal.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
What would be more embarrassing for Team USA to lose
to Canada or lose to France in the Olympics.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
Well, they lost to Canada last year the Feeble World Cup.
It's a different roster, totally different roster for the Americans,
a couple of holdovers. I don't think anything is gonna
you know, I don't think it's embarrassing anymore. Because these
are NBA players playing against NBA players a lot of times,
and these are pro players playing against pro players.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
I think that.
Speaker 5 (05:13):
Losing to either one of them will be a hit embarrassing.
I wouldn't say that, but I think they expect to
win it, but they know they're going to have to
play their best basketball to win it. So it's like
six on one hand, half a dozen on the other.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
We're talking to Gus Johnson, Fox Sports play by play announcer,
frequent guest in the Dan Patrick Show. PAULI, when's the
last time Gus was on the show?
Speaker 6 (05:43):
Now I can confirm Gus spring of twenty eleven, and
you said fourteen years, that will be thirteen.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
I got it with you know what? That guy goes
to the runner.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
I don't know if we had happened.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
What happened?
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Man?
Speaker 5 (06:05):
You fell out of love with me when I was
the CBS.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
You love me?
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Man?
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Now you know well I talked to you fourteen years.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
We're going to round that up.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
To the you know, highest number, because it just sounds better.
Fourteen better sounds better than thirteen.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Was this back when Northern Iowa, when Ali Fuesh was starring.
I think that when we had I think us was
on that call. Were you on that call? No idea, Wait,
I'm following your career.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Remember what I did last?
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Remember what I did last fifteen years ago?
Speaker 4 (06:39):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Where's the strangest place you've been recognized with your voice?
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Strangest place I've been recognized?
Speaker 5 (06:51):
Well, I would incriminate myself if I actually told you
the truth.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Look at it this way.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
It's a very strange, strange places.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
That you would never expect. You know, I have had
you weren't you? Weren't with James Harden in Houston? Were
you where you got recognized? Okay?
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Never that mean? You know, you know, I travel a lot.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
You know, I've been traveling a lot for the last
thirty five years, so I've I've had some experiences, and
I have been recognized in places, uh, places that that
I didn't think people even really knew I existed.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
So okay, I'll just leave it at that magic city. Yeah,
I understand that expected for me. We're seven weeks out
until college football. What do you how do you prepare
for what you think college football is going to be like?
Or when will you prepare for the shifting landscape? I mean,
(08:00):
I don't think you ever.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
Let's look at it like this, Dad, our jobs are
the easiest jobs in the history of mankind for people
like us that love sports. So prepare What does prepare mean?
That's an interesting word because you're always interested in it
in college football, and you never kind of stopped preparing
because you're always interested.
Speaker 7 (08:23):
In what's going on.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
And last year we had such an exciting season with
Dion and he started out in Colorado. We had a
bunch of his early games and he beat TCU first
game on the road. And then we segue from Dion
to Jim Harbaugh and what was going on with him
with the Big Ten and the NCAA investigation and then
(08:45):
Harball getting suspended, and then Jeron war coming in as
the Michigan interim head coach and leading them all the
way to the Big Ten championship. Jeron Wore beating Ohio
State and then Harball coming back and we weren't there
after the championship. When Harball coaching the championship Big Ten Championship,
(09:07):
that was. So we had an exciting pas and I'm
always looking at it. I'm always interested in what's going
on in college football. And now I'm so exciting with UCLA,
USC Oregon and Washington moving into the Big Ten. So
the schedule looks good for everybody, I mean, not only
US in NBC and CBS. Some good games that are
(09:27):
going to be shown on television overall platforms. So I'm
always looking at him, and I'm always interested in We
got an exciting schedule coming up. We got Texas and
Michigan week two. I think I'm really looking forward to
seeing that when you weres coming back again for Texas
as their quarterback arch manning their backup quarterback now and
(09:47):
going into ann Arbor taking off Michigan now with a
new quarterback, most likely kid named alex Orgy. Big, strong, physical,
I mean, just built like a Greek god, like a
donistist kid, alex Orgi. He's Texas, African American kid. So
it's always something to pay attention to. There's always some
good hot stove topics. So man, I'm always interested in
(10:10):
what's going on with college football. I prepare as soon
as the season ends, which is just keeping.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Up on what's going on.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Talking to Gus Johnson, Fox Sports play by a play announcer,
he'll be on the call tonight. It's a team USA
versus Canada. That's a ten thirty Eastern on FS one.
Where do you stand on the Cooper flag bandwagon? You
in first class seat?
Speaker 5 (10:32):
First class? Oh bit, you know, not only a man
first class. I'm a first class lying on United Arab Emirates.
I don't know if you've been on that play talking
about Furthern's first class and then there's United Arab immiratest folks, Wait,
what's that like?
Speaker 2 (10:49):
First class? Off the move, It's out of the.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
World, It's off the charts being on the United Emirates.
I took a flight over I think from New York
to London one time on that flight and it's just
it's amazing and it's the greatest first class I've ever
been in. So when you asked me the question about Coop,
I'm in the United Arab Emirates first class with this
(11:12):
young man I mean. And I was thinking about him
because I knew you were going to talk to me
about him today, and I figured you would ask me
a question like what makes it is.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
He standing out? And my answer.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
As I thought about it last night, I said, yes,
he is standing out because he's not standing out, meaning.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
On what day did I come to practice? I went
to practice.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
First practice was Monday. They had a great scrimmage between
the the national team and the select team that they
have the practice against him, and I was watching because
I can't take my eye Dan. I can't excuse me
for rambling, but I can't take my eyes off Lebron
James because ever seen Lebron James prior to Monday practice,
(12:05):
I've never seen him practice. I had a chance to
watch him practice the last two days, and what's amazing
to me is, here's a man that's arguably the greatest
player in the history of the game of basketball, who
you know, has a very very good argument to become
to be the goat. And as I watched him practice,
(12:25):
and I kept my eyes on him the entire time
both days, he worked like well Lebron James in practice,
worked like he was trying to make the team at
thirty nine. I mean, his energy, his determination, is commitment,
all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
He plays so hard.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
So to answer your question about Cooper Flag, does he
stand out? No, Well, that was my question.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Does he stand out?
Speaker 5 (12:57):
No, he doesn't stand out because he just fits in
like he's just normally a part of this situation. And
he's seventeen years old. I saw Lebron James checking him,
checking him in the scrimmage and Cooper Flag was playing
point guard at seventeen years old at sixty nine against
Lebron James, and he he didn't flinch.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
It was nothing.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
It was just like he's playing against some kids that
he played against in high school. A few months back
in Maine. I mean, this kid, it's it's you know,
it's really amazing as a sportscaster, especially a guy that's
always on the road and still walks into the locker
rooms unlike a lot of you know people in today's sportscasting,
(13:42):
you know, working locker rooms and being around people. It's
so interesting when you run into a person.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
That is.
Speaker 8 (13:54):
Special, just just as a baby, as a young person,
and you just see the future, like Lebron James when
he was a kid out of high schools on Sports Illustrator.
Speaker 5 (14:06):
I'll never forget the chosen One. This Cooper Flag is
the real deal. And it's just I was thinking as
I was watching them, I was like, here's a kid
that's seventeen years old playing against not only the best
players in the world, but some of the greatest players
of all time, playing with them, fitting in, not dominating,
but being effective.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
And he's seventeen and now what is this July?
Speaker 5 (14:30):
So he's got August, so he's got another month, and
then he's gonna walk onto a college campus and have
to play against college kids.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
This is gonna be.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Phenomenal to watch.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
Just I mean, I can't wait to watch Duke, and
he's only gonna be there for a year, so he's
gonna be the number one player in the Drive. There's
no question about it. I mean, we are looking at
the future of the NBA, the future of American basketball,
which makes me feel good because if you look, you're
seeing all these international guys winning MVP, mvs. Dantage's joke,
(15:05):
its antety Coombo's And now you got a guy like
Anthony Edwards, who the young up and coming cat American
and this Cooper Flag is going to be uh, he's
going to be special over the next fifteen years. So
it's just, uh, it's a treat, you know. I was
sitting there saying to myself, I can't believe that they
pay me to do this.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
But I'm not going to tell.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
Anybody, you know, Dan, don't tell nobody.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Man, I won't tell nobody. They pay us for this, right,
I promise you. So we'll talk to you in twenty
thirty eight. Does that sound about right? Next time we'll
have you on here.
Speaker 5 (15:38):
Well, I mean that's usually what kind of schedule you
had me on. So but I'll be here and.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Thanks for doing otherwise everything good.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Yeah, you're doing otherwise.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
I've been spoken to you.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
You're good, You've always treated me great.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Everything's good, no complaints. I still get to do this, guys,
That's that's the fun part. I mean, after a while,
I don't take it for granted. But I'm very fortunate
that you know, you survive and this is it's a
young person's business, and you just try to make sure
they eventually tap you on the shoulder and say come here,
(16:12):
bring your playbook. But until then, we get well to
do it every day.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
That's what's up, man, And you're absolutely right.
Speaker 5 (16:20):
Words can't express the amount of gratitude that I have
put a good to the Good Lord for allowing me to.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Do this for a living in this particular lifetime.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
But I don't think it's a young man's game one
hundred percent. I think it's a game of men, and
I think guys like us who have survived that bring
a certain kind of wisdom to this job and to
the covering and the chronicling and the you know, of
sports is a big deal and you do a fantastic job.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
You have always I learned a lot from you.
Speaker 5 (16:48):
As I mentioned to you, about fifteen years, I haven't
been on the show with sixty seventeen, eighteen years something
like that.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
It's still twenty eleven, job twenty eleven.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
It's kind of a mentor.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
You've always come to be kind of a mentor because
not only you know, are you Dan?
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Are you credible.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
As a journalist, but you know, you just have a way,
a style of grace about yourself. And I really admire
of that, and I'm really a big fan of you
and your shows and everything you've done during your your
illustrious career.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
You know, if you keep talking that way, I'm going
to have you on probably on Monday again. You know,
That's what I'm hoping. Get my best to RAF and
tonight you got it. It'll be ten thirty Eastern. It'll
be Team USA against Canada. Thank you Gus for joining us.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
All right, man, you got a guys, Thank you for
having me Dan.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
I'll talk to you.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Soon, I hope.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Gus Johnson, Fox Sports playback play announcer. I didn't realize
it had been that long, yes, Paul.
Speaker 6 (17:45):
Well after the twenty eleven and Say Tournament, Gus took
the big job at Fox, mostly football, and you know
he's very missed at the CBS at the Nay tournament.
He was fantastic at the turnament.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
See if they let j Billis do game. I thought
that they would let Gus do a couple of them.
Speaker 6 (18:03):
Foxes look great if they loaned out Gus for a
couple of nca tournament game.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
And I know you want to develop your announcers, play
by play announcers, younger announcers. I get that, but it
would have been nice. I like, I wanted Dick my
Town to get a chance to do a big game
because I don't know who's been more instrumental in selling
the game of college basketball than Dick EV. And I
know DICKYV listens to the show, and I hope he's
(18:27):
feeling better. His cancer is back, and you know he
lost his good friend Howie Schwab, So yeah, Dick is
surrounded by great people, but you know, he's been the
face and the voice of college basketball for such a
long long time.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
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Speaker 2 (18:54):
Paulie Fool's Go Here with Tony Fool's Go Yeah.
Speaker 9 (18:57):
As everybody knows we're the hosts of the award winning
Paul Toni Fusco Show. Yeah, but instead of us telling
you how great we are, here's how Dan Patrick described
us when he came on our show.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
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Speaker 1 (19:10):
What are you doing interrupting our promo? Yeah, you wasn't
talking about you. You took those clips totally of context.
Speaker 9 (19:17):
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you out and beat you.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
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Speaker 1 (19:23):
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Speaker 9 (19:24):
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Show on iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Yeing just because he retired and he can't escape us.
Jim Beheim joining us from a Las Vegas special assistant
to the Syracuse Director of Athletics, the Basketball Hall of Famer,
and he joins us on the program. How are you, coach?
Speaker 4 (19:49):
I've never been better happy as I can be, and
I'm losing money in the poker room at the Wind
Casino as I speak to you.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Are you what kind of poker player are you?
Speaker 4 (20:02):
I'm pretty average, But out here this they just broke
up the World Series of Poker, So all the guys
here played in it, so I'm below average in that group.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Okay, just be careful. You're not spending you know, your
your savings there. I don't.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
No, well, I'm still getting you know money, you know,
like you guys are paying me a lot, you know
a lot of money to be on your show. So yeah,
you know, I can, I can play. I can put
my blind up one hand for that. No, No, it's
been great, but I'm really retired and I won't have
I won't be doing any your show.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Oh you're not, You're you're all. We're gonna find you.
We're gonna track you down. We're gonna track you down.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Now, are you just watching Olympic basketball? What exactly are
you doing in Vegas?
Speaker 4 (20:48):
I'm in here to watch. I watched the game last night,
watched practice the other day, and then I'm gonna watch
Summer League. Buddy, my son is playing in the Summer League,
so I will watch that for a couple of days.
And but it was fun watching the Olympic team practice.
This is a really good basketball team. You know, they
(21:09):
didn't shoot it well particularly well last night, but they
really the defense was really good and I think they're
going to be really good. They've got I think it's
important for Kevin Durant to get healthy. He's he's probably
the best international player of all of our players because
he can shoot it so deep and he's so long.
(21:32):
He's been our best international player. We'd like to have him,
but you know, to have Steph Curry and how they
in the back court. You know, Lebron obviously still is
playing at a high level. We've got center's position, Anthony Davis, Embiid.
You know, it'd be interesting to see how Embied makes progress.
(21:53):
He looks a little you know, he was hurt at
the end of last year. I don't know if he's
fully healthy. But they've got a really good team Tatum.
You know, obviously coming off a big, big year, they
might have too many players, but I think the coaching
staff who I think they'll work it out and I
think it'll be. I think it'll be. This will be
(22:14):
a great Olympic team, and we'll need to be good
because it's not easy. France is going to be really good,
and obviously Slovakia a couple of other countries over there
are good as well, so it's it'll be a test.
The problem with the Olympics. In the international ball, it's
only a forty minute game, so you can't get off
to a slow start. And it's a one and done
(22:35):
once you get to the medal round. If you play
one bad game, you're done. So it's it's not that
easy to win a go metal. It really isn't. And
but I think I think this team certainly is got
a great chance to win.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Okay, help me understand building a team. You said they
might have too many players. Jalen Brown is Jalen Brown's
coming off an unbelievable NBA finals and you take his
teammate and Jalen Brown sent out some cryptic messages like
what's going on here? So is this a case of
(23:11):
too many stars? And you need to have some foot
soldiers here? And that's why Jaylen Brown did not get picked.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
No, no, not at all, because the guy they added
is a star too. I mean, I think they didn't
release this, so I'm guessing a little bit here, but
I think they felt they needed another guard that could
pressure the ball in case something drew, how they got
hurt or something. I think they feel his teammate from
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the Celtics can also pressure the ball very hard. So
you got to understand these two guys just want a
championship too, so they're used to each other. I think
it's a good move. I think at the forward spot,
you got Kevin Durant, you got Jason Tatum, somebody I'm forgetting.
I'm sure right now.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
You got Anthony Davis.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
No, I'm talking that forwards, but Gill just plays for Canada.
Give me a break. I know you're good, but you're not.
You're having a bad morning attention. But they got Jason
tannem they got Lebron and foward, they got Anthony Davis
at center of course. But you know, Jalen Brown is
a great player, There's no question about it. And it's
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always tough to leave a guy like that. I mean
he's an Olympic player. I mean he's as good as
these guys. And it's just the way they decided when
they picked the team. They try to fit the guys
as better. I went through this for three times. We
picked three Olympic teams, and you're always there's always somebody
you may well, maybe this guy or maybe that guy,
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and you know it's it's hard. Jalen Brown is a
great player. I don't think anybody's disputing that, and I'm
sure that they. I think they felt when this happened.
They had Kawhi obviously, and Kawhi Leonards as good as anybody,
so they were set at forward. When Kawhi went down,
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I think they made the decision they wanted another guard
that could pressure the ball. It's a little bit of
guesswork on my part, but I think that's what I
heard from conversations. But yeah, I mean it's it's always tough.
Aleen Brown is a great player. I mean, that's a
tough That's not an easy leave off by any stretch
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of the imagination. But they have a great team. I'm
anxious to see employ. I think when they get rolling,
they've got We never had the shot blockers with like
Anthony Davis and Joean b We didn't have that really
with our Olympic teams. We had the guard playing the
forward play, but we didn't have that shot. Maybe got
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a shot blocker. They changed shots last night, So and
they're gonna have to contend with when Bayana and they're
gonna have to with go bear with France. That's always
gonna be tough. But I just I like this team
I think they'll be fun to watch, and I think
the Olympics will be great. I think it'll be a
great team to watch see how they developed.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Talking to Jim Beaheim, basketball Hall of Famer says he's retired,
but not really Cooper Flag, Oh what did you think?
Speaker 4 (26:27):
Great player? Great player. I'm not gonna you know, I
try to. I don't like to build up guys and
just all this and that. But I'm just telling you
he's as good as anybody you know, a long, long,
long time. He can go. He went right up against
these guys, and these guys are meant here. I mean
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he went right up against him. He can sure, he
handles the ball, he's tough, he's a different guy. He's
a different guy. He's I'm not sure he can't play
right now. Team. I mean, he's really good, and he's
he's a difference he's a difference maker. There's gonna be
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a lot of people trying to get that number one
draft pick next year. He's really good. He's been good
for a long time. And he's tough. He's got toughness,
and you know, he's a team player. He passes, he shoots,
this guy, he block shots, you know he can play two, three,
four one. If he had two probably, I'm not sure
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he couldn't play the five miss.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Capable of making this rule. Is he good enough to
be on this roster on the Olympic tam.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
Well, you would never. I don't think you'd ever put
a kid like that. We had Kevin Durant in the
same situation when our first Olympics, and he was really good,
but we didn't put him on. Okay, you know his
time came, and Kevin's been on what this is third
or fourth, So sometimes a young player, he would like
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to one Clark, her time's gonna come. She's gonna be
on two or three Olympic teams. But you kind of
like to go with the veterans a little bit. At
this stage. You're getting that one game playoff and it's
for the golden medal. Do you want a seventeen year
old titter and you want Kevin Durant and Lebron James
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on the court? I mean, that's an easy answer. Even
I think you can get that answer. But I don't
know why I'm picking on you, my best friends for years.
But anyway, Cooper Flag is going to be fun to
watch and there's some really good young players coming up
in college basketball for a year. They'll be there for
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at least we'll see him for a year. But it'll
be fun. I work with Carlos Boozer a lot, and
he was a great guy to work with. By the way,
his son's really good, so you know, they're just as much.
I tell him all the time, Tyler's he's much better
than you are. But you know, it's it's fun to
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watch these guys. It'll be fun to watch this Olympic team.
And it's not that much fun to be in college
basketball right now. And I wish we had somebody like
Dave Gavitt that could be there to tell these guys
what to do and how to how to fix what
we've got. But I don't I don't think. I don't
see that coming. And I don't want to sound like
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a grumpy old man that doesn't like the today's world,
because you know whatever, it's just really it's really crazy
now in college basketball.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
And what did you think of Dan Hurley turning down
the Lakers to stay at Connecticut.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
I love Dan hill He's a great college coach. I
think it's sometimes hard for some coaches to go from
college to the NBA. It's a different mindset. You know,
you're not yelling at Lebron James and Anthony Davis five
times a week. You know they're not listening. They're not
listening to that. And I think Danny's great. He's tough
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and he gets on his players and it works in
college and he's figured out he's the best college coach.
I'm happy for him that he went back. I think
he's better suited in college. You know, Mike Shishawski made
a decision many years ago that he was a better
suited college coach and it worked out pretty good for him.
I think this will work out well for Danny Hurley maybe.
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I mean, he can try it again if he wants to,
he can try it up there, but it's I think
it I would say his style. I think it would
be hard up there. But you know, the people of
Connecticut don't like me that much anyway, so I don't
want to say anything bad about him.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
But anyway, they like you. You're gone, they like you,
I'm sure, okay, but they beat it enough. Tougher transition
though coach if Dan Hurley was leaving Connecticut to go
to the Lakers or JJ Reddick, who's never coached going
to the Lakers.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
Well, JJ knows the league. He's smart, he understands the league.
He's close, pretty close with Lebron, which will help. But
it's a tough team to coach. I mean, Lebron's forty
one years old, and Anthony, who was a great player,
gets hurt if one of them go down. They're not winning.
And the West the last time I looked, and I'd like,
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I watch all you know, I watched too much basketball anyway,
But the last I looked, the West is pretty done
good out there. It's not going to be easy to
do much out there when you look at some of
the players and some of the teams that are out there.
I think it's going to be very hard. And the
Lakers don't understand anything except winning.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
You know.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
It's like I don't I don't think that Daryl Ham
did that better job coaching there, but they didn't win.
So you know, you coach there a couple of years,
you don't win, you're probably not going to be coaching
there again any longer. But it's a tough team to coach.
I mean, it's if those two guys say perfectly healthy
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and can have big years. They'll be in it, but
it'll be it'll be tough for them. And uh but
jj reddick. You know one other guy came out of
the booth, you know, the coach you remember him. He
turned out pretty good named pat Riley, Remember him? Yeah? Yeah,
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he turned out to be a pretty good coach, didn't he. Yeah, yeah,
so it can be done.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
But you know, magic and Kareem could make me a
good coach though, just saying, well, he did.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
Pretty good in New York too, I mean he elevated
them pretty good.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
All right in Miamis.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
You know you can say that about Phil Jackson too.
You know he had a few guys too. Any coach
that wins in the NBA wins as good players. Read
our back. I love redd our back. But until the
guy guy Russell got there, they never want anything. And
then when Russell got they won a lot of games.
They won a lot of games and a lot of championships.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Okay, who's the best Who's the best coach of all
time in the NBA?
Speaker 4 (33:12):
Yeah, which I'm not an expert at so they'll just
laugh at me. But uh, I think it's it's it's
hard I mean, I like, I like Greg Popuy. I
think he's a great coach. I put him and Phil
Jackson right there with Red Ahrobeck. I mean, those guys
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you can't deny. They want it. They won titles and
they're great coaches, you know. I mean it's hard to
talk about coaches different eras and different things. I mean,
John Wooden was always considered the greatest coach because what
he did and he is, and Mike Kryshewsky's the best
coach in modern what I call modern basketball, which is
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kind of old basketball because I'm old.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
But did.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
You know we lost We lost the Michigan State the
year that Michigan State played in the state in the finals,
we lost them. We lost before we got to the
Michigan State game. So yeah, no we didn't. Bird was
He's a great player, Top five, one of my top
five players all the time. I mean, as simple as that.
It's not that hard to pick these guys. Everybody argues
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about all this stuff. Michael Joins the best player they
ever played. I mean, there's no there's not a debate
about it. It's it's over.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Lebron is not close to Michael Jordan in your opinion.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
Well, he's close. He's close.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
It's no argument.
Speaker 4 (34:35):
Well no, there isn't, but it's he's close. But he
you know, he's great. He's on that team. Top five players.
I mean, Magic Johnson's on that team. I mean there's
top five players, no question about it.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
I'm writing down. So you got Bird, Magic and Michael.
Now I got room for two more in your top five?
Speaker 4 (34:59):
Well, yeah, I think Lebron's okay.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Now I got room for one more.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
Well, the problem with picking centers is you can fight
all your life about it. I picked Bill Russell because
he won a hundred.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
Championships eleven eleven, Yeah and.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
A that's true.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
Yeah, so I picked Bill Russell. I mean most people
don't pick them. That's okay. My sons laugh at me
when I pick them, but that's all right. They're not
that smart. By the way, take after me.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Jimson. Buddy is playing with Oklahoma City in the Summer League,
and his older son Jimmy just signed with the team
in Germany. So yes, I'll be spending it home.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
How are you aware of all that stuff? Geez, that's good.
You're on top of things.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Now, Well, I scouted better than you scouted. Let's put
it that way.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
Well, I don't know. I did pretty good the wife's category.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
I think she scouted you. Well okay, okay, well okay,
hold on, harder to close, harder to close your wife
or Carmelo, Anthony, No.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
You're supposed to who is the most important?
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Well, I know who that is. It's Carmelo.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
And I'm not going to answer that question on the radio,
not ever.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
Nope, nope, that'll come back to haunt you, all right.
Don't lose your life savings out there. Okay, just okay,
I'm on a budget.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
I'm on a budget.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
I'm limited, good, very limited.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
Yes, I'm on Social Security.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Great to catch up with you. Play nice out there,
all right, thank you. That's Jim bay Hunt, Jim Hunt,
Hall of Fame coach. More important Carmelo or his wife.
That's why I said I can't answer that out on
the radio. Tough for to close his wife or Carmelo.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
See why did we decide it was top ten? Why
the number ten? We love round numbers. Why not twenty?
Well we can do that, It just takes a longer
time to do twenty. He gave me top five, right,
so it's really easy to go all right, let's hear
you're top five coach. We decided that it's like you
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have a top ten. I don't know. We could do
a top seven if you want. We could do top seven.
We could do a top thirteen. Why not top nine?
All the single digit? Top nine to ten? Sorry, double
digit's not as good. All right, you're sounding like Todd
right now, and you don't want to sound like Todd. Okay, Sorry,
I can always sound like me. Okay. I didn't know
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it's going to be that detrimental to the show to
actually do that. That's pretty good, Thank you, Tod. And Todd,
by the ways, has a Roger Bennett impersonation. He'll have
that four you coming up after the break.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
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Speaker 2 (38:12):
There were six shutouts in baseball on Thursday, and that
ties the most in one day this season. One of
those shutouts the Pirates, led by Paul Skeins over Milwaukee
and Paul Joins is now struck out eleven and seven
no hit innings. How's the arm today?
Speaker 10 (38:32):
A little sore I've moved it around too much. But yeah,
it's a little sore.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
But how normal is that? It's normal?
Speaker 10 (38:39):
Yeah, every every time I pitched, just you know, little stiffness,
a little soreness. But I mean that's kind of how it goes.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
How is your bullpen session before you started? Yesterday? That
was good.
Speaker 10 (38:52):
I had to it took a little bit to loosen up.
I think the day games will get you sometimes so,
but it was a good bullpen, probably one of the
better better ones this year.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
Is that always an indicator because some pitchers will say
I was terrible in the bullpen, and then I got
on the mound, I was lights out.
Speaker 10 (39:08):
Yeah, I will say having a terrible bullpen seems to
be a good thing. Sometimes you get all the bad
pitches out of the way before then you go out
there and just just pitch. But sometimes it's a good
thing to have a good bullpen before the game too.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
All Right, when did you realize you had something special yesterday?
Speaker 10 (39:25):
Probably after the game, to be honest, in the moment,
it was just kind of going out there and competing
and executing, executing the game plan. But yeah, in the moment,
I wasn't too caught up in it.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
When you go into the dugout you just completed the seventh.
What's the conversation you're having or is there a conversation
you're having with your manager?
Speaker 10 (39:48):
Yeah, I mean I was talking with our pitching coach
and our game planning coordinator more than more than a sheltery,
our manager, but just kind of telling them how I
was feeling. And you know what I thought about the hitters,
you know, going to the next inning, and I wasn't
really expecting to go back out for the eighth in general,
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So it wasn't at all a surprise when when they
pulled me.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
You realized you had a no hitter. I did. Yeah,
if you had a perfect game poll, would you have
fought to go back out? Probably?
Speaker 10 (40:26):
I think just just the way that I am. I
think going all the way back to high school and
then in college too, like you don't if you get pulled,
you get pulled, you're not you're not talking it in,
You're not talking yourself back into the game. And so
that's something that I think I'm getting used to a
little bit, is, Uh, we have a little bit more
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pull here that I've had in the past. So maybe
going forward, I will start to fight. But that's kind
of just not how I not how I do it.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
I guess, well, I wondered about that because you're a rookie,
so you got to be like, what am I allowed
to do as a rookie and not allowed to do?
You know? Does my manager want me to fight to
go back out there? Like, I don't know if you
have those range of emotions thereof Am I allowed to
say anything here? Yeah?
Speaker 10 (41:16):
And I think it's happened a couple of times already
this year, where you know, he tells me I'm out
of the game, not just here, but also in ta
A two. You know, he tells me I'm out of
the game. And then he comes up to me after
the game and he's like, well, I was expecting you
to fight a little bit more, and next time I
think you should fight a little bit. And I'm like, well,
you're my manager, You're you're not supposed to be advocating
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for me to fight against it. But uh, I mean
it's a little different.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
How important is velocity when you're pitching When you see
something on the gun where I think he had to
pitch one oh two point six or your sinker was
ninety seven, Like, are those What kind of indicators are
those for you that you can use in a game?
If any, it's really good.
Speaker 10 (42:00):
And a lot of the stadiums have metrics on the
scoreboard too now that show exactly how your pitches are moving,
and and and that that that stuff can only help pictures,
I feel like because it gives them as it gives
us a better indicator of where where we are, you know,
if our fastballs flatter, if our you know, my sinker
is running more, my slider has more more sweep on
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it than normal than it gives gives me a better
indication of how to use those pitches and where I
need to throw them to get you know, takes and
swing and miss.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
And that kind of thing. When did you know you
were great?
Speaker 10 (42:35):
I don't know if I am yet.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
The potential for being great, Yeah, I don't know. It
had to be one of those moments where you go, damn,
I'm pretty good.
Speaker 10 (42:47):
Maybe, uh. I think I think we we kind of
started to realize what we had a little bit in
college last year, you know, because I went to to
l s U from Air Force and I was I
was a good pitcher at air Force. But it wasn't
It wasn't anything crazy, I don't think. And then got
got to l s U and and kind of grew
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into my body and learned how to pitch a little bit,
and then you know, started facing college hitters, SEC hitters
and that kind of thing, and and there there was
a little bit more noise around it too, so.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
It changed, it changed.
Speaker 10 (43:22):
It changed quick for me really once once we got
into the season at LSU. But that's you know, college
college baseball and pro baseball are very very different things.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
Could you have stepped out of L s U right
into the major leagues?
Speaker 10 (43:38):
I don't know, especially looking over the past year, because
from l s U I only had one fastball. Now
I have Now I have two fastballs, and just as
a pitcher, it's a lot easier to pitch with two
fastballs than it is one.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
Explain that. Explain the two fastballs.
Speaker 10 (43:56):
Yeah, basically, if they're if they're you know, if they're
on heater, and they know that it's going to do this,
and then they have to worry about the breaking balls
and that kind of thing. Uh, those are very different things.
But if you're throwing two, you know, fastballs with some
dello and one of them does this and one of
them does this. You it's it's hard to cover both
of them. And so you know, swing and miss is
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one thing, but also getting early contact and and weak
contact and ground balls and that kind of thing that
that's what a sinker specifically is good for. That's why
a lot of guys arore sinkers and cutters and and
four teams. A lot of guys have three fastballs now.
But I didn't have two fastballs when I was at LSU.
So that was something that came along after that that
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I you know, started working on when I got to
pro ball, and but that I think that's the one
thing that has made the transition a lot easier for me,
is just having two fastballs.
Speaker 2 (44:52):
He's Paul Schemes, the Pirates pitcher and on the All
Star team. Do you know, like, are you pitching? Have
you heard anything? If you're pitching in the All Star Game,
that's the plan I'm lined up to do it. That
The you know, the convenient thing about that as I
pitched on a Thursday and the All Star Games on Tuesday,
so that would be a you know, four days rest,
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which I haven't done in the big leagues. This year,
but I did it in Triple A a couple of times,
so that that which is normal rest for a starting
pitcher for the most part. So the plan, the plan
is definitely to throw in the All Star Game. Where's
your power come from?
Speaker 10 (45:31):
From my lower half? To put one thing on it?
But I think, I think just being strong in the
lower half and then.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
But explain that though to parents or younger kids who
like growing up. I always thought, I mean, you're throwing
with your arm, but you see some of these guys
lower body, especially pitchers. You know Verlander and Nolan Ryan
and you know all of these guys who are power pitchers.
But explain how you use your lower body to create
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that power.
Speaker 10 (46:01):
Yeah, I think having lower body strength is one thing,
and lower body power is one thing. And you can
lift a lot of weight and you can you know,
do all that, but then you know you have that
and then the sequencing comes into play about how your
low body is moving in comparison to your upper body,
making sure that it's all timed up because they're you know,
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you can you look at body builders and that kind
of thing, and they can, you know, lift a lot
of weight, but they can't sequence their body to throw
a baseball correct, and that that's a that's an extreme example,
but that's kind of the way I think about it.
And then you look at guys that are, you know,
super skinny, and if I had to guess, they probably
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can't put up four hundred pounds in a back squad,
and they can still throw a hundred just because they
they have good power output and they sequence their body
up right and everything kind of falls into place.
Speaker 2 (46:59):
You can like a scientist here. I try to be like,
are you fascinated with the science of of all of this?
Speaker 10 (47:07):
Yeah, I mean I think you can run yourself into
a hole with some of that, and some guys do
with like, you know, you just go down to too
much of a rabbit hole thinking about that kind of thing.
So I try to find the medium there of you know,
the science of it and then actually going out there
and competing. But everything matters, for sure, and I think
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the I've been I've been super blessed to have a
lot of coaches over the past, you know, a few
years who have helped me with my development and pitching
and allowed me to figure it out a little bit
on my own, as well as you know, providing me
some directions, so I think I know where to look
and what to look at and what to not look at.
Speaker 2 (47:51):
Just as importantly, what was it like April eighth, twenty
eighteen when you go watch Sho Heyo Tani pitch?
Speaker 10 (48:02):
You got the actual date?
Speaker 4 (48:03):
Huh?
Speaker 2 (48:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (48:05):
That was?
Speaker 2 (48:05):
What was that?
Speaker 3 (48:06):
His first? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (48:08):
Home start?
Speaker 10 (48:09):
Yeah, it was cool, and so I think we got
the tickets because Matt Chapman was on the A's and
he was playing against him, and so we got him
through our our high school coach.
Speaker 2 (48:21):
He struck out twelve in that game.
Speaker 10 (48:24):
Yeah, and I remember guys were you know, swinging its
splitters that are bouncing on the grass and he's throwing
a hundred and and it was just it was it
was cool. And I'm watching it from the stands and
but it is. It is cool to watch the games
from the dots.
Speaker 2 (48:39):
Do you want to do?
Speaker 10 (48:41):
You?
Speaker 2 (48:41):
Do you want to? I mean, you're you how much
do you miss hitting?
Speaker 10 (48:45):
I miss it, but I I don't miss how my
body felt when when I was hitting and pitching, and
and the amount of work that you have to do
to to you know, stay on the field and stay healthy.
It's a lot which you know, all the power to
show to do that every single day. That's unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (49:03):
He's Paul Skin's the fourth pitcher since eighteen ninety three
to record zero hits and ten strikeouts and multiple outings
in a single season. He's six and zero. ERA is
one point nine to zero. Yes, Tod, We've.
Speaker 9 (49:18):
Just received a call from Arizona Diamondbacks manager Tory Lavello
wanted to check in with you and Paul Night.
Speaker 2 (49:25):
Well, Tory's the National League All Star manager? Hey, what's up?
Speaker 3 (49:32):
What's up?
Speaker 4 (49:32):
Dan?
Speaker 7 (49:32):
How are you doing this morning?
Speaker 2 (49:33):
Good?
Speaker 4 (49:34):
Good?
Speaker 2 (49:34):
I'm conducting an interview here. What's going on?
Speaker 4 (49:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (49:38):
Well, I look at I thought it was my time
to just butt in on a really special moment. I
could see you guys were having your special time. But Paul,
first of all, how are you doing? I just wanted
to congratulate you. I've chosen you to be the starter
for the Nationally and the twenty twenty four All Star Game.
I'm really really excited for you. So unbelievable honor and
one that's so well.
Speaker 2 (49:58):
They're around her plum.
Speaker 10 (50:00):
That's that's unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
That's awesome.
Speaker 7 (50:07):
Yeah, like I said, so well deserved and we're we're
super excited to make this announcement. And uh, you know,
you represent so many great things that this game, this
game craves you know. It's it's such a great story.
The way you've come on the scene scene, the way
you've done done it with such humbleness. Uh, it's it's noticeable.
(50:29):
And uh, you know, I'll be honored to uh be
your manager, and I'm gonna be honored to be watching
you throw your first pitch. Super excited about that.
Speaker 2 (50:36):
Are you accepting this? Paul? Okay, I just wanted to
make sure we got to get it official here Torri
is Paul on a pitch count?
Speaker 4 (50:47):
Uh you know, well, we'll see what's going on here.
Speaker 3 (50:50):
We gotta love the pitchers.
Speaker 10 (50:51):
We got to get through.
Speaker 7 (50:52):
So listen, that's a tough question for me right now,
but we got to love of guys get through. Paul's
getting He's gonna throw a big zero there the first
and we'll take it from there.
Speaker 2 (51:01):
It's awesome you called in. Thank you, toy, Thank you
very much, thank you. Well, how about that?
Speaker 10 (51:10):
That's cool, that's really cool.
Speaker 2 (51:12):
Yeah, do you ever get really excited, like crazy, like
that's a big deal. You're you're starting the All Star Game,
your parents? You want to call any money right now?
Speaker 10 (51:23):
Yeah, I think my parents are watching the show right now,
but so, but you know, i'll give him a call after. Yeah,
that that's cool. Uh, And I'll probably get more excited
leading up to the game, hopefully I have a full
night sleep before.
Speaker 2 (51:40):
But yeah, I haven't.
Speaker 10 (51:41):
I haven't put much thought into it because I've been
getting asked about it a little bit, you know, the
past few days, and I haven't been given much much
thought into it just because I had, you know, the
game yesterday obviously too. So now I can focus my
attention on that. And that's that's pretty dang cool. Who
you looking forward to facing that first hitting? Oh man,
(52:02):
I can't put one guy above the others because you Yeah,
I'm guessing it's gonna be Henderson, Soto and Judge. So
they're all pretty dang good players.
Speaker 4 (52:16):
So you know, the.
Speaker 2 (52:17):
Folks on getting them out of you know what, You're
not this flustered. You don't get flustered when you're on
the mound. You're flustered right now.
Speaker 10 (52:25):
It's a Yeah, that was a surprise. Yeah, I wasn't
expecting that.
Speaker 2 (52:29):
Well, we say all over to your parents and congratulations
to them, because behind every great athlete or great parents
who helped you along the way. So congrats. It's a
great moment here and uh hope many more for you.
Speaker 10 (52:43):
Yeah, thank you very much, really cool. Thanks for being
able to share it with me. Yes, we'll always have this, Paul, Yes, sir,
Yes we did it. We got you on the All
Star team. It's the starting pitcher. Thank you, Bud Pall
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