September 14, 2024 • 62 mins
Northern Illinois Head Football Coach, Thomas Hammock joins the show to talk about their huge upset of Notre Dame on Saturday. Los Angeles Chargers HC Jim Harbaugh stops by to remind Dan and the Danettes; who has it better than we do? Former Saturday Night Live cast member and late night television host, Jimmy Fallon stops by to talk about his time at SNL and his Jet’s fanhood. 2x Super Bowl Champion and MVP, Eli Manning drops by and talks about how much he enjoyed trading barbs with Bill Belichick on his Monday Night Football Manningcast. And Dan wonders about the future for QB Tua Tagovailoa and the Dolphins after he suffered yet another concussion.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
This is how it sounded at the end of the game.
Is Northern Illinois beach Notre Dame at Notre Dame?
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Five seconds left?
Speaker 4 (00:11):
Then?
Speaker 5 (00:12):
Are you up?
Speaker 4 (00:12):
Sixteen?
Speaker 6 (00:13):
Fourteen?
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Sixty two yarder?
Speaker 4 (00:16):
Snaphole Jeters? Kick this fuck? It's fucked. It's fucked. Picked
up by you? Picked up?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Bye?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Are you Huskies? I doot it?
Speaker 7 (00:25):
The busts with the biggest upset and are you his story?
Speaker 8 (00:29):
They come to South in Indiana and they knock off
the number five team in the country, n IU sixteen
Notre Dame.
Speaker 7 (00:38):
Fourteen the football odds, we're shining.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Down what au.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Northern Illinois was a twenty eight point underdog in that game,
but somehow they pulled it off and their head coach
Thomas Hammick joining us on the program. Coach, thanks for
joining us. Congratulations. How would you describe the emotional roller
coaster of Saturday's game?
Speaker 5 (01:01):
You know, it was unbelievable.
Speaker 9 (01:02):
You know, in the moment you thought back to all
the things that we've done to build a program to
what it was, and that was just the joy of
our players getting a reward. The joy in their face,
and so that was a really motion for me after
that game because it was just an unbelievable experience. The
kids believed they put the work in, and I was
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just proud, you know, for our program and our playoffs.
Speaker 6 (01:28):
Take me into the locker room at halftime, I.
Speaker 9 (01:32):
Told the players, you know, this is right where we
wanted to be, This is right where we expected to be.
You know, we are a physical football team. So the
physicality never botherished me. You know, we're big on the
office of the beefs the blind, and so all week
I told them, you know, we're going to be right
where we want to be in this game from a
physical standpoint if we handle the environment early and our
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first kickoff return we let the ball bounce and got
the ball at the two yard line. I thought, hey,
this this has a chance to get away from us.
But they stayed in a fight, and when we got
the halftime, I said, listen, and we won one half
of football, we win.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
The game, and we were able to get that done.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
But you're telling these kids there in South Bend playing
against Notre Dame, most of them probably didn't even get
recruited by Notre Dame, and you got to quiet them
down a little calm them down a little bit, but
you still want them to be fired up. So how
do you walk that tightrope there?
Speaker 9 (02:24):
Yeah, you know, the night before the game, I talked
to them, I said, listen, the rocket Ismael is not
running down that tunnel. And by the look on their face,
I realized they had no idea who I was talking about.
So then I had to take it a step further.
I said, you know, Joe Montana, Ricky Waters, Jerome Bettis,
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and so they understood, those guys.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
But I guess what I went and then.
Speaker 9 (02:49):
To understand was we were playing the twenty twenty four
Notre Dame team. We're not playing the nostalgia of Notre Dame.
And they they stayed in a moment from that standpoint,
and I was happy to see it.
Speaker 6 (03:04):
You should have showed them the movie Rudy.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
You know what I thought about that early in the week.
Speaker 9 (03:09):
But then I thought Rudy came out when I was
a kid, so I know for sure, you know, they.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
Have no idea what Rudy was about.
Speaker 6 (03:18):
It hits you right after the game. You got emotional.
Speaker 9 (03:21):
Yes, you know, because I've talked to our team before
the season about the breakthrough, and I told them a
bamboo takes five years to break through the surface, and
when it breaks through the surface, it grows ninety feet.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
Well, this is our sixth year.
Speaker 9 (03:35):
We've done a lot of watering and a lot of
you know, getting these guys to mature. And that felt
like we started to break through at that moment. And
I was just, you know, flush with a wave of
emotion that was unexpected. I'm normally not an emotional guy
in that capacity, but I thought about all the players
that've been a part of helping us build it, all
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the coaches that have been a part of helping us.
Speaker 5 (03:57):
Build it, and it was a great moment.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
What it feels like the college football nation is surprised.
It doesn't feel like you're surprised you beat Notre Dame
at Notre Dame.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
No, I wasn't surprised.
Speaker 9 (04:10):
And to take it a step further, you know, I
meet with my staff on you know, game day in
the mornings and I told him, I said, listen, I
had a dream we were gonna win this game by
field goal. I know, I said, I had a dream
the game was gonna come down to a field goal.
And I said, I walk up, So I can't.
Speaker 10 (04:27):
Tell you what happened.
Speaker 9 (04:30):
I'm not I'm not that I'm not that good, but
I had a dream that it came down to a
field goal. In the week before, we had some issues
on you know, extra point, and so I had that
nervousness going about me.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
But I'm glad it turned out the way it did.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
He's Thomas Hammock, the Northern Illinois head coach. You got
a bye week this week? Do you wish you were playing?
Orre you glad you got to buy it?
Speaker 5 (04:54):
Oh? I am glad. I am glad we have a
bye week.
Speaker 9 (04:58):
First of all, you know, obviously I've grown up watching you,
but like doing these type of things that it wouldn't
be possible. We had a game this week, and getting
our players offer the emotional high that they've been on.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
This is a great week we got.
Speaker 9 (05:12):
We got improvement practices, so we really can lock them
back in as a coaching staff to get them ready
for you know, our next game.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Did anybody surprise you reaching out after you beat Notre Dame.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
Yeah, I'm a huge Yankees fan. Huge.
Speaker 9 (05:27):
I grew up in Jersey City, New Jersey, and Aaron
Boone texted me, uh, Sunday morning and you I mean,
you know, for me, that was you know, you can
you know that was just an unbelievable text from him.
You know, he's in season for for him to do that,
and uh, you know being from the East Coast and
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listen that that that that one got me.
Speaker 6 (05:52):
What did coach Freeman say to you after the game?
Speaker 5 (05:55):
You know, he was very complementary.
Speaker 9 (05:57):
You know, I had a chance to talk to him
before the game and just told him, you know how
five I was of him, and you know, having an
opportunity to lead that program, and he was, you know,
my first time meeting him.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
I don't know him at all, and he was very
down on earth, very humble.
Speaker 9 (06:16):
You know, you figure, guys, the head coach, you know,
the Dame, he don't have to talk to me, but
for him to take time to speak to me. And
then obviously after the game he was very complimentary, which
I thought was pretty cool.
Speaker 6 (06:27):
Did notre Dame recruit you?
Speaker 9 (06:30):
Oh no, no, I wasn't. I wasn't noticed Dame material
from a football standpoint. I was not the day material
from an academic standpoint, But from a football standpoint, I
wasn't close.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Uh, you gotta gotta bring him back down to earth
today practice.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
Yeah, you know, we got to buy a week, so
I gave him a couple of days off.
Speaker 9 (06:49):
You know, I'm from the I'm from the NFL, right,
and so you know, if you win going into a buy,
you give him some more time off. If you lose,
you get him back on the practice. So, uh, you know,
I gave him a couple of days to get themselves back.
But you know, I'm looking at these emails about academics,
so I'm on that, you know, guys turning in work
and different things like that, because we are we are
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coaches and teachers, and that's still a part of the job.
Speaker 6 (07:14):
Congrats, I know it's a long time coming.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
You've done a great job there with your alma mater,
and uh, don't screw it up the rest of the season.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
All right, Thank you. I appreciate that.
Speaker 6 (07:25):
Thank you, coach, Thank you.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
And go Husky.
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Speaker 2 (08:17):
We make way for Jim Harbaugh for a season, Charger's
head coach. Who has it better than we do nobody.
Speaker 6 (08:24):
How about that. We're getting a lot of mielelage out
of that.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
That story you told us when you and your brother
and sister are walking what a mile to wherever and
your dad made it seem like you got the greatest
life in the world.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
They sure did.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Dan.
Speaker 11 (08:40):
It came out one day We're living in Iowa City, Iowa,
and uh we had a we had a dealer car,
but for some reason, that dealer car wasn't there that day,
and uh, my dad said, no car today, boys, we're walking.
John grab A basketball hundred with the right, then a
(09:01):
hundred with the left. Jim, get a basketball hundred with
the right, hundred with the left. We're walking who's got
it better than us? Nobody?
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Dead?
Speaker 5 (09:10):
Nobody?
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (09:13):
Now do you say that?
Speaker 2 (09:14):
If you say that to your team, do they they
look at you and go, Okay, I don't know what
this means, but you certainly seem enthusiastic about it.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
Yeah. No, it's it's the uh, there's a couple of
layers of it.
Speaker 11 (09:27):
Uh, you know, the it's just a way of looking
at something, right, I mean, who's got it better than us?
Speaker 5 (09:32):
Nobody? That's a perspective. And then it also has the
layer of.
Speaker 11 (09:39):
There's there's of anchor weights of you know, sometimes you
don't think you have it good or somebody else has
got it better, but it's actually the thing that's that, uh,
you know, making you overcome something that makes you better.
For example, you know, I grew up, you know, as
a kid wanting to be a major league shortstop. You know,
until at the time I was U seventeen years old,
(10:01):
I was I was destined and born to be uh.
But it turned out that you know, there was there
was kids in the Dominican Republican who had it a
lot better than I did. You know, they didn't have
a field. They their their ball glove was was a
milk carton.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
Uh.
Speaker 11 (10:17):
So there was a lot of bad hops. Turned out
that they had it better than I did because I
had a glove and I had a had a decent field.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
And then it's the it's the it's the thing that
I really say.
Speaker 11 (10:31):
My dad said to us as a family, and I
thought what he was really saying when he said, you
know who's got it better than us, you know, Jim
and John. He was really telling us that, you know,
he he was the lucky one to have, you know,
to be a dad and have these you know, this family.
And when we said nobody back then, what we were
(10:52):
really saying was, you know, we loved it. We loved
being in this family. So it's it's carried on, you know,
from one generation to the next. And when I say it,
I say it about my two I say it to
my two great loves, my family at home and my
my family at work. You know, there's no coach that
could could have it better and be coaching. Uh, you
know this in this organization with these players and these coaches,
(11:13):
And I said, when I say it to my kids,
I say it the same way, like I'm the luckiest
dad there is.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Tell me about you gave each of your players a
work shirt with their name, the patch, the lightning bolt
logo on there. So something an auto mechanic might wear.
Why do you have the Do you have the shirt there?
Speaker 5 (11:33):
Oh? I got it?
Speaker 6 (11:34):
Okay, my blue collar shirt right here, so it is
blue collar.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Our gas station guy might wear something like that old school.
Speaker 11 (11:46):
Yeah, yeah, you know, it's interesting you mentioned that at that.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (11:52):
Obviously it's a a motivational shirt. It's uh, you know
it honors and honors work, and that's that's the first
layer of that. Then the second layer, you know, for
me and and really everybody is uh, I'm honoring the
people in my life that did the did the dirty work,
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you know, and everybody's got it.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
You got it, I've got it.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Uh.
Speaker 11 (12:17):
Some people goes back one generation to their parents, uh,
or it goes back to their grandparents, maybe their great grandparents.
Not very often, but there's somebody in your family, Dan,
I know that, uh, you know, did it, maybe did
a job that they didn't love to do, but they
did it. To put a roof over the family's head.
(12:38):
And and uh, in my case, that's that's uh my
two grandparents, Joseph Pedie, that's my mom's dad.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
And uh.
Speaker 11 (12:46):
In fact, he he he went to work. He's had
a full time job since he was in the sixth grade.
He had to, uh, he had to leave the sixth
grade and go work for his family. Came over from
Italy when he was four years old. And in fact,
he worked in a in a filling station, you know
that that was that was his job. And then he
became a he became a self taught mechanic and uh,
(13:09):
before before he was done, he got so good at
being a mechanic that he was he was treaching treat
teaching mechanics at Cleveland Trade School. And he wore short
shirt like this. He just exactly liked this. I remember
growing up and his said Joe on it. And my
dad's dad, Bill Harbaugh, he was a braakman on a train. Uh,
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and he wore the.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
Wear the wore the same kind of shirt and.
Speaker 11 (13:34):
He said Bill, Uh. And he he became an engineer.
And but the bottom line was he got he got
my he got my dad and his kids to college. Uh,
my dad went to Bowling Green State University. My mother, Jackie,
also went to Bowling Green State University. That's where they met.
My dad played football and my mom was a cheerleader.
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Both became educators after after college. And as Michelle Obama says,
I mean, the closest guarantee you have, uh to success
in life is education.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
I believe that.
Speaker 11 (14:12):
But and that's what allowed my my mom and dad
to do do a job they love. My dad became
a coach and uh and then uh yeah that but
I I look back and I honor I honored Josh,
Joseph p Ed and Bill Harball for doing the job,
the dirty work to uh for for their family. So
that's that's the second piece to that, to that to
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that work shirt. Thanks thanks for asking that. That's uh,
that's something very important too.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
To me and our family.
Speaker 6 (14:43):
Jim Harball. The Chargers won their opener beat the Raiders.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Next game will be coming up next Sunday, they'll face
the Panthers. You got the game ball? How many how
many game balls have you ever received? You seem kind
of surprised emotional after the game.
Speaker 11 (15:00):
That was uh, you know, that was a great moment.
There's you know, it's one of the it's one of
the best feelings there is. UH when you're when you're
part of a team and you're you know, you're working
so hard for for for your team to have success,
you know, the betterment of the organization, the betterment of
of all of its members, and uh yeah when it
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when it comes together, and uh, that's that's a tremendous
feeling of victory, feeling of winning. And and mister Spanos
UH gifted myself and and Joe Hortis UH a game ball.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
And that was that was that was that was cool
to be a part of.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
I know you talked about winning multiple championships with the Chargers.
Let me go back to you leaving Michigan the landscape
of college football. What role did that play, if any
in you wanting to leave college football to go back
to the NFL.
Speaker 11 (15:53):
Well, so it was it was you know, it's just
a piece, a piece to the the puzzle. I think,
I think, uh, I think what you're asking me. Maybe
maybe I'm getting that wrong, but uh, you know, the
uh the chance to win a win, a Super Bowl,
win a championship, to just simply be known as UH
as World champions.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
That's that's uh, that was That's definitely a piece to
the puzzle.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
But nil transfer portal didn't have an adverse effect. You know,
Nick Saban's talked about this some of these other you know,
high profile coaches that you want to coach. Now you
got to be worried about how much money uh kids
constantly transferring in and out?
Speaker 6 (16:34):
Is the NFL simpler?
Speaker 5 (16:36):
I always looked at that as uh as real positives,
uh change that needed to be made. Uh.
Speaker 11 (16:42):
You know that's taken you know, fifty some years for
for there to be revenue sharing. Still not there yet,
but uh you know, in in my opinion that that
needs to happen. But that's that's Uh. It's uh week two,
it's week two for the uh Los Angeles Chargers, and
you know all the all the focus and attention is
(17:05):
is really there. But yeah, it's just uh, if you had.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Won a Super Bowl, would you have gone back to
the NFL if you had already won?
Speaker 11 (17:14):
Well, that's a great question. I The other piece of
the puzzle is like, this is the highest level. You know,
I want to I want to see if I if
I if I measure up, if I can come into
this tremendous organization and.
Speaker 5 (17:28):
And add value. Yeah. That Uh, that's a that's a
piece of it too.
Speaker 11 (17:32):
I you know, I love the challenge and this this uh,
this league, as you know. I mean you've heard heard
a thousand million people say it. I mean it's it's
really hard to get a win.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
Uh.
Speaker 11 (17:45):
And it's it's uh, it's it's really it's really special
to win a championship. I haven't done it. To your question,
I remember, I remember. It's almost like it's like the
Field of Dreams movie.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
Uh.
Speaker 11 (17:59):
Remember Bert lang Caster, you know, he was talking about
his playing days and uh and he said he walked
off that field thinking there'd be other days, but there
were no other days.
Speaker 7 (18:11):
And I.
Speaker 11 (18:14):
Walked off that Super Bowl field in uh in New Orleans,
thinking there'll be another day. There'll be another day. You
don't know if there is going to be another day.
So uh, to have that opportunity to be back back
in position, to be in position, I'm you're gonna attack
it with an enthusiasm unknown to man.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
Time.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
We just had Alex Smith on last Hour and I said,
give me a hardball story, and he said, you know
that guy, He says, all I wanted to do was
play football, coach football, and then die.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
That's true.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
I've said that. I thought that.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
I've so you believe that you play football, you're going
to coach football, and you're going to coach until you die.
Speaker 6 (19:00):
That's the plan.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
That's that's been the plan. That has been the plan.
Speaker 6 (19:04):
Yeah, does your wife know that's the plan?
Speaker 11 (19:08):
That was Uh, that's been the plan since I was
five years old. I I I must admit that I
remember being in Bowling Green. My dad was coaching at
Bowling Green at the time, and Uh, I was getting
off the kindergarten bus to go to uh to go
to school, and I used to I used to like
visualize that. I was like like my dad like uh
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when he was with his team and he would get
off the bus, you know, uh and the players would
get off the bus. So I used to just picture
being on the on the team bus, you know, getting
off the bus, and like I was walking into the
to the stadium and uh kind of makes the little
hairs on my arm stand up because I've you know,
it's just been been able to do that, you know,
pretty much my whole life, you know, since then. And
(19:54):
I had that thought as a five and a half
six year old like, yeah, that's what I'm gonna do.
I'm gonna play as long as I can, then coach
and then then die. Uh that was uh yeah, it's
it's genuine to me.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Well, I remember Brent Musburger saying that to me about
Joe Paterno. He said he will never retire. Joe Paterno
will die. I He'll coach until he dies. And you know,
he said, that's my fear with Joe Paterno. And he
pretty much did that until they kind of, you know,
kicked him to the curb.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
I just have so much gratitude Dan, uh, you know,
just for for you know, being able to do what.
Speaker 11 (20:40):
I love and uh it's have a job, you know,
to be able to work, you know worked to me
is uh he probably saw it and that uh you know,
some of it in the work shirt there. But there's
a uh and that's that that work ethic I get
from from watching my my dad and my mom and
my grandpa's and my and my and my my family.
Speaker 5 (21:02):
Uh you know.
Speaker 11 (21:03):
That's faith family football. That uh that is uh you know,
that's that's core. So uh, just you know, keep keep
praying that you know I can. I can have one
more day to to uh work on work on football,
you know, work on uh going to Carolina and seeing
if we can uh win number two. We're can't be
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can't be two and o unless you want to know
we're there now.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
It's that is actually true. You can't be too and
unless you're want enough.
Speaker 11 (21:34):
So just saying that, I just have a lot of
gratitude to be able to do this. I mean, uh,
I mean, uh, I'm just gonna just gonna keep going.
And uh and my wife, you know, Sarah, nobody nobody's
got it better then I.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
I thought you were gonna say nobody's got it better
than she does because she's married.
Speaker 11 (21:55):
No, no, she I'm the lucky one again. I got
I drew the long straw there, mister Patrick.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
All right, before we let you go, we're gonna play
the What did Jim Harbaugh have for breakfast?
Speaker 6 (22:05):
All right, Todd, you guess first?
Speaker 4 (22:07):
Some kind of yogurt with granola.
Speaker 6 (22:09):
Okay, okay, seating? I think just a little eggs and bacon.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Okay, that's old school Midwest Marvin turkey and egg whites.
Speaker 6 (22:19):
Turkey and egg whites.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Wow, PAULI coach has no time for breakfast at Homie
shot out of a cannon.
Speaker 8 (22:24):
I think a staffer leaves a banana on his desk
efficiency get.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
Back to coaching.
Speaker 6 (22:29):
I'm gonna say no breakfast yet, you're right.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
You were both right. There's been there's been no breakfast.
Speaker 6 (22:38):
There's no time a diet, coke, die coke or die. Yeah,
all right, let's see it.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
I would have thought steak and eggs, but you know
you don't. A glass of milk, A nice glass of milk.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
We're up, We're up and at it, attacking.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Okay, Uh, good luck against Carolina. Good to talk to
you again, and thanks for John mister Patrick.
Speaker 11 (23:01):
I uh, I was just I'm just waiting for you
to bring up the two foot putt.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
I missed it at Lake Nona. Uh back in the nineties.
Speaker 6 (23:11):
I'm trying to I was trying to keep it positive.
Speaker 11 (23:15):
Every interview you've ever done, you've always brought up the
two foot putt.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
No, No, you're on the Carolina. I'm on to Carolina.
I'm Belichick. We're not going to go back. We're going
forward here.
Speaker 6 (23:27):
Thanks, thank you. That's Jim Harbaugh who has it better
than we do.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
No, Moody.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAP.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Jimmy Fallon, host of The Tonight Show. Look, who's turning
fifty years of age? How is that possible? You're kind
of are you taking whatever Paul Rudd is taking or
Jason Bateman?
Speaker 4 (23:58):
Yeah, no, I'm starting to feel it. It's happening.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Fifties coming, It's here, okay, And you know, you get
to be fifty, you start playing a little more golf.
Maybe you're not doing as much work. You maybe want
to slow down a little bit. Now you're out there,
you know. With this grudge match with DJ Collin, how
did this come about?
Speaker 4 (24:16):
I just thought I followed Dj khaled on all the
socials and the Instagrams and stuff, and so I'm looking
at he keeps posting these photos of him playing golf,
and he looked like he'd be fun to play with
if he also looked like someone I could beat.
Speaker 6 (24:31):
I'm not that good, Yeah, how can you play?
Speaker 4 (24:36):
I mean, I'm East Coast. I'd say probably. I'm not kidding.
Five to ten times a year, it looks like he
plays a whole lot more than that. Jimmy, Yeah, I
think he lives on a golf course.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Do you think about putting money up other than somebody
gets a nice cardigan?
Speaker 6 (24:53):
Like make it interesting?
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Where As Tiger Woods once said to me, when I
said I'd like to play in golf, what do we
play play for?
Speaker 6 (25:00):
You said, whatever makes you nervous?
Speaker 4 (25:02):
Oh my god, can I tell you, though, how nervous
I actually did get. Because so it's obviously I'm doing
this to be fun and to make a funny thing.
But we had a real PJ official it's we play
four holes. We're at in Lake Tahoe, so we're after
the We had the cameras stay after the American Century Championship.
(25:23):
We asked NBC to do as a favor. This whole
thing came about in like two weeks. But you get
you get up to the seventeenth holes, a par three,
and there's five thousand people screaming, and then when you're
about to swing, they're quiet, And it's the most nerve
wracking thing I've ever done in my life. I mean,
I'm a Canadian. I don't do that. I felt like
an athlete I'm like, oh my gosh, this is the
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pressure Man. And so when you see the first shot,
it's it's it's I don't want to spoiler it, but
it's something so ridiculous. It feels like something you'd see
in a movie.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Well, like, as a comedian, the last thing you want
to hear is islands. Like You're right.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
Completely all was running around trying to hype everyone up.
You know, it was funny we were talking to I
sent DJ Khala to text and I said, hey, dude,
you just look like you'd be fun to play with.
Maybe we could. I could challenge you on the show
and we'll do something. And he goes, yeah, maybe i'd
be done with I just gotta check my schedule. And
then I just challenged him on the show for real,
and I said, the winner will get instead of a
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green blazer like the Master's blazer, gets a red cardigan sweater,
and we really hype it up and that'll be the
that'll be the gift that the winner gets. So I
challenged him on the show live, and the next day
he happened to be in New York and he came
on the show and accepted. And then we called and
me seeing me like, how can we do this? And
they're like, you can't. You can't just era an eighteen
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hole match? Can you play and go? Not really? I
mean i'd say I'm double bogie golf. You know, I
don't know if you want to? He goes, No one
wants to watch that for five hours. It's boring, so
I go, so let's think of another way to do it.
So it's four holes. There's a it's a breakfast ball that.
It's actually fascinating television. I loved it. Is there drinking involved?
(27:08):
Not for me, there wasn't, but for that crowd in Tahoe.
Oh yeah, Oh my goodness, dude.
Speaker 5 (27:14):
I was like Dan.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
I was like, yeah, I get to get out of here, dude.
It was really maybe I would say five to ten
thousand people, I'll go nuts.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
You can see what coming up Friday. So this Friday,
it'll be eleven thirty five Eastern. So normally when you
watch the Tonight Show with Jimmy, you'll be able to
see the four hole.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
Now I think, I think if you're a sports bar,
you should have a full on raging party this Friday
night at your bar. And if you wear a cardigan
into the bar. You get a drink special, get one
from your grandma, get whatever you can get at Cargan sweater,
go in and go.
Speaker 5 (27:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
Jimmy said that there'll be a drink special tonight if
I wore a cardigan. It's because it's when you're going
to see a live, an unaired sporting event at you know,
Friday night, This Friday, at eleven thirty at night, it's
perfect bar time.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Who's easier to interview? If I said musicians, actors, athletes.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
I would say athletes number three, definitely. I'd say I'd
say probably actors, actors number one, then musicians than athletes.
I feel like athletes are tougher because they've trained their
whole life to be an athlete, not really talk. You know,
it's not a gift that they trained for, so it's
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kind of they have great stories, but they're not really
media trained.
Speaker 11 (28:37):
You know.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
Where actors are and musicians. I think my favorite part
is comedians, just because that's where I got my start
and I get to goof off with all those guys
like Will Ferrell. I can send him an idea, he
won't even read it and they'll just say yes, I
go no, you should read it first.
Speaker 6 (28:53):
Will He's like, no, I trust to you.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
I go, I have you dressed this little debbie. He's like, yeah, no,
I love it.
Speaker 6 (28:59):
We'll figure you know.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
But I'm fascinated by all of them. You know, I'm
interested in everybody I have. I once said Drew Brees
on the show, and he was great, and we did
a game where we're throwing footballs and breaking plates. Okay,
very high quality television. And he was playing against Taylor Loudner,
who was a great actor in all the Twilight movies.
(29:23):
And so I picked up a plate and I threw
it up and Drew Brees threw it and he missed.
And then I threw a plate up and Taylor Lotner
hit one. So now it's one nothing. Taylor Lotner second one.
I throw up. Taylor Loutner hits his second plate. If
he hits one more, he wins. All of a sudden,
Drew Brees stops having fun. He goes into this, he
goes into this mode. Laser red, laser eyes came out
(29:46):
of his He was like jumping up and down and
it was like not fun anymore. And he was throwing
before I let go of the plate. It was disintegrating
in my hand. He was like, I'm not losing to
this actor.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Well, I experienced that firsthand in Tahoe, of all places.
I'm playing golf with him in a century tournament. I'd
made back to back birdies. I'm on the fringe of
the green with a chance for three in a row.
He walks by me as I'm getting ready to putt
and he says, I can't believe that you could possibly
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have three birdies in a row, like with such disdain
for me. We got done with the round. Jimmy and
Ray was so upset with his round. He parred the
par five last hole and he walked off the green.
He didn't shake my hand or Ben Roethlisberger's hand. He
was so upset. And I see him the next day
(30:41):
and I'm like, oh my god. The last guy I
want to run into is Drew Brees. And I'm on
the range and my caddie goes here.
Speaker 6 (30:47):
He comes. I go, oh my god. He walks by
and he goes, hey, Dan, how you doing. I go good.
He doesn't even say anything about yesterday.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Yeah, and no, he got he did that whole locked
in laser focus.
Speaker 6 (31:02):
Didn't even shake Ben Rothersberger's hand.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
These athletes don't like to lose. I remember beating Tiger
Woods at a video game of his own game, and
he who cares. I mean, it's a video game, so
clearly you're Tiger Woods. He got so mad and I go, hey, Tiger,
you know, if you hold it it was a Nintendo
Wii said if you hold the button down and shake it,
it gives you back spin. He goes, don't tell me
how to play my game. It's this whole thing's a joke.
(31:30):
What are you doing? But when you see this thing
Friday night, it is so it's so silly, but it's funny,
but it's real. We have an official, a PGA official,
so it's all by the rules. It starts raining, there's
thunder and lightning, it gets it's honestly the most everything
that could happen happened. I couldn't have written it better.
(31:50):
And he's a great guy to play with.
Speaker 6 (31:51):
Are you still a judgsman?
Speaker 4 (31:54):
Yeah? I am. You know, it's kind of that thing
where you just kind almost I don't know, it's not
giving up, it's just you go, there's other things in
life I can do. I can do others I can
I can water color paint, I can do anything I
could do. I just don't why why do it to yourself?
And then I'll find myself rooting for the Giants too,
(32:17):
just because they're New Yorkers and they come on the
show all the time, and straight hand, I'll get mad
if I don't. So but yeah, you know, I thought,
for a second, I think a lot of Jets fans,
for a second, go this could be.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
We do it every year.
Speaker 6 (32:31):
I know, why would why would.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
We even say that to each other? Why would we
say this could be? Don't say it? This course is
not the year.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
If you could only watch one of your Saturday Night
live skits, or you wanted your grandkids to see your
Saturday Night like the one that you go, that's it.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
Oh, I mean it's probably would have to be cow
Bell or or with Will or you know. My favorite
one was Mick Jagger. I did it thing with Mick Jagger.
He was on the show and Rolling Stones were on
the show, and Mick wanted to do a sketch and
so I go, Lauren goes go picture sketch to uh, Mick,
and I go, if you want to go, I'm not
talking to Mick Jack, I'm afraid I can't you talk
(33:13):
to him. He goes, no, he's cool, go talk to him.
So I wrote down all these ideas. I go, Mick,
I have this idea where me and you are are
work at a Sunglass hut or something. He's like, no,
not that, not that. Yeah, he's very very very nice
to me, very very patient. He goes, not that. And
so before the meeting, I said to Lauren, maybe I'll
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do an am pressure of Mick in the mirror. You know,
I'll be his reflection. Lauren goes, please don't do that.
That's been done so many times. Please Lucille Ball did it.
I just don't do it man. So anyway, so I'm
running down these ideas. I go, how about this idea, Mick,
me and you. You're Keith and I'm Keith and he
cloned himself so we can party with him whatever. And
(33:53):
he goes like, nah, no, not that. I go down
like ten ideas. I'm getting sweaty. I go, what if
it's you in the mirror and You're like, why am
I doing this show again? I've done it in the seventies, eighties,
Now what my rooster?
Speaker 5 (34:06):
What my do?
Speaker 4 (34:07):
And he goes, uh, A lot. That A lot that
I did. Yeah, I lot that. And so I had
to go in the Lorn's office and say good news
and bad news. Good news. He wants to do a sketch.
Bad news. We're doing the reflection in the mirror. Then
we wrote it on a Friday night, which is so rare,
usually write on a Tuesday night. We were on a
Friday night, got to set down. They made the best
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reflective set where everything is backwards in the mirror, and
we rehearsed it once and did it on Saturday night
and the place erupted. It was a it was I
think it was for me. It was a perfect sketch
for me.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Let me, let me see a little bit. You got
a purple like a blouse on or something here?
Speaker 4 (34:43):
Yeah, yeah, I got I'm wearing a purple. We're both
wearing matching Mick Jagger purples satin blouses. And we're like, what,
You're gone the rooster rooster, Come on it. I'm pulling
my finger at you.
Speaker 5 (34:56):
I'll keep.
Speaker 12 (34:59):
You know.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
He's just got out of control. And I was brand
new on SNL and I remember he loved it so
much that he put his hand through the mirror and
shit my hand and the place was shaking, and I
was hot from all the apply. It was just really
exciting moment for me because I'm just such a fan
of his and I love that sketch. Any any of
those ones where the place rocked, you know, very lucky
(35:21):
to get those sketches.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
But even the last year, it felt like on Sunday
Night Live, everybody was intent on cracking you up, like
they the goal was to make you not get through it.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
It was painful, Dan, It was painful everybody because they
knew I'm an easy laugh. You know, I just love
I'm a fan of comedy, and it's very unprofessional to me.
But Will Ferrell would We've been doing a sketch where
we're in a hot tub together and him and Rachel
Dratch were this creepy couple that would get in the
hot tub, and like a hotel. At a hotel, there
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were those creepy couple that would get and he would
eat like a duck leg or something and he go like,
how I And then every time I talked, his hand
would pinch me under the water because he knew I
would start laughing.
Speaker 6 (36:05):
Oh, that's not in the script for him to do it.
He just is pinching, okay, yeah, And.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
So he would do that, or Molly Shannon would do
stuff that she just knew, Well, look at me, just
make me laugh, and Tina Fey would just and they
would crack me up, and I'm like in her ratio
sounds and I would just get in trouble and they
didn't like it.
Speaker 12 (36:22):
You know.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
I had one line in cow Bell and Will Ferrell
and Chris push each other and Will's wearing a shirt
where his guts hanging out the bottom and his glasses
fall off and he looked like an insane man. And
I had my one line and I flubbed it, and
then everyone's mad at me. It's like they do, wuldn't
put me in sketches? I got in trouble.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Is Jimmy fallon The Tonight Show coming up this Friday, eleven,
thirty five pm Eastern on NBC. It's the big showdown
that everybody's talking about. It's the Cardigan Classic with a
DJ Collin and there's a little bit of everything in there,
a little bit of everything.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
It's really fun, but it's a good hour and it
flies by quickly. It also repeats on Peacock the next day,
and then Golf Channel on Monday Monday Night.
Speaker 6 (37:06):
Good to talk to you, Jimmy.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
Thanks for joining us, but always good to talk to you.
Speaker 6 (37:10):
Thank thank you.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
I appreciate you having me on. Keep it up, keep
up to good work.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
He's Eli Manning, two times Super Bowl MVP, and today
hundreds of New York City street cart vendors are ditching
their New York pretzels for kings Hawaiian soft pretzel bites. They,
of course, are big sponsor King Zawaian. They're going to
bring us meet Friday coming up tomorrow. But uh look
who's in the heart of New York City. It's Eli
(37:44):
Manning joining us on the program. How are you, Eli, I'm.
Speaker 12 (37:49):
Doing great, Dan, How are you. I gotta get you
to come visit my card. You know you gotta get
some soft pretzel bites here.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Well, we're going to have that tomorrow. Kings Hawaiian is
coming to us and then they're going to bring that.
Looks like you're running a lemonade stand here it is.
Speaker 12 (38:03):
That is the idea, except it's Kings of Line soft
pretzel bites instead. And I'm in the middle of New
York City, and this is what I do. You know,
New Yorker's brought me so much joy and their support.
I want to give back by giving out some uh
self presle bites.
Speaker 6 (38:18):
Look at you, You're just a man of the people.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Okay, But do you ever run into a fan who's
mad at you for something that you may have done
during your career?
Speaker 4 (38:27):
Uh?
Speaker 10 (38:28):
You know, I think five years being retired, they've forgotten.
Speaker 12 (38:31):
It's amazing how they forget about all the interceptions, the
terrible games, the losses. They always remember the good stuff,
and so I I you know, the same thing happens
to quarterbacks. You know, five years of my I lost
the game, a game I thought we won.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Everyone.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
I was watching the Manning cast, and I was wondering,
with your brother and Bill Belichick there in the same room,
who is more of a football nerd Peyton or Coach Belichick.
Speaker 10 (38:56):
Ah, Man, I gotta I mean, I think I gotta
go with Belichick.
Speaker 12 (39:00):
Just I mean, he's just an encyclopedia of knowledge on
on football and everything. You could hear him in the
TV timeouts. There's someone in his room that he's talking with.
He's like, hey, wow, they're going like bear defense.
Speaker 10 (39:13):
This is not real sound. I don't like this move
Like he is.
Speaker 12 (39:16):
He is, you know, constantly just game planning, analyzing, looking
at everything, seeing things that are unique or different or
oh this is a really good and so I mean,
he is just right in the middle of it. Peyton
during the during the TV timeouts, he's eating like a
chicken parm sandwich or like, you know, the Buffalo wings.
Just you know, he's always got sauce on his face.
(39:38):
He's a disaster.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
But he was offended when Brandon and I dropped that
ball like it it was if he was still playing it.
It hurts him sometimes to watch bad football.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
It does.
Speaker 12 (39:48):
It does hurt him, And especially when a guy's been
out of training camp. You sit out, you sign this big, great,
big contract, and then you drop you drop past this
like what you know, Hey, let's.
Speaker 10 (40:00):
Get the contract done.
Speaker 12 (40:01):
I think he's just mad at the whole situation that
that the idea of like missing training camp blows his
mind to him. He looked forward to training camp. He's
like finally I get to go. I think it should
be a longer training camp. We shuld have longer football season.
And that's his mentality. So I think if he's sense it,
if someone doesn't have that same mentality, he just can't resonate.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
There was a sneaky line that you know, Belichick talked
about going to those super Bowl parties after you lose
the Super Bowl and then you go. I never went
to one of those, and it was it was an
awesome line just to see Belichick's response to it.
Speaker 10 (40:40):
Yeah, I was.
Speaker 12 (40:41):
I almost say like, hey, you know, Bill, were you
invited the Peyton's loser, you know, super Bowl party?
Speaker 10 (40:46):
But I bit my tongue.
Speaker 12 (40:47):
I can't say that the coach Belichick too much respect
for him. He won to me the other you know,
super bowls, and but yeah, I mean Peyton. I was surprised,
like you know, about having everybody had to loot lost
the championship to get invited to this party.
Speaker 10 (41:06):
So I guess I'm glad I wasn't invited.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
He's Eli manning, two time Super Bowl MVP, joining his
courtesy of Kings Hawaiian their new soft preencil bites and
he's in the heart of Manhattan's Flat Iron district. Today,
Connor Murray talked about, hey, you know, the game plan
didn't call for us to get the ball to Marvin Harrison.
He said, you know, like pointed the finger at the
(41:29):
offensive coordinator. He said, it's not on the quarterback, okay,
And I criticized him because even if it's not on you,
it is on you.
Speaker 6 (41:39):
You're the quarterback, you own it. It's your team.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
But how do you get the ball to somebody who
everybody knows that you want to get the ball too?
Speaker 12 (41:49):
Well, I think there's always a couple staple plays where
you can put them, you know, put your receiver to
a certain spot, you know, and this is a no
matter basically, no matter what the coverage is about or
what the defense. You know, we can get him the
ball on the outside, on a short end or on
a hitch route, on a slant route, and it's not
guaranteed it's going there. They could dictate the coverage to
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take you away.
Speaker 10 (42:11):
But you know, I don't.
Speaker 12 (42:12):
I don't think that Marvin Harrison Junior is getting double
teams on every play right now. I don't think you know,
a rookie he hadn't played a game, I don't think
you're gonna draw that attention. And sometimes it's just it
is truly just based on you know, hey, we want
to get them the ball. If they're playing a Manda man,
you're going to go to your guy. But it just
depends on what the coverage is, or you have some
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special plays to get them on some play action. Those
are the ones a little harder and we have a
play action a two man route, maybe they play a
different coverage or he gets covered up by the by
his zone coverage. But there are a couple of plays
in this you know, three step five step passing game
where you can't get the ball to, you know, to
certain guys.
Speaker 6 (42:51):
How often would receivers come back to you in the
huddle and say I'm open?
Speaker 12 (42:58):
They you know, we have pretty good receivers if you
it's one of those feels if you ask them, hey,
were you open on the last play, the answers always yes,
Like they don't they don't even think about what the
play was. They don't even say yes. That's just their mentality.
But there are there are, you know, times we're on
the sideline they'll come up and they'll be like, hey,
this guy cannot hang with me. They're they're pressing it.
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I'm running by him. Or they'll come and say, hey,
this guy's getting antsy.
Speaker 10 (43:24):
We need to double move them. Like normally they have
pretty good suggestions, and.
Speaker 12 (43:29):
You know, there and there were times there were maybe
a few times on the sideline where I worked, you know,
worked the other side of a man. The man I
do a you know, a fade stop to your team
mix and I would ask like Victor, Hey, Victor, did
you get opened on the fade on the other side,
And sometimes he would say like, no, not not really,
not really. He kind of covered me up on that one.
But you know, next time, I definitely don't beat him.
(43:50):
I'm prepared for the next one. So they don't want
you to think don't go to him by any means.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
Patience for rookie quarterbacks, like, at what point do we
get sense of what kind of season it's going to
be for these rookie quarterbacks.
Speaker 12 (44:05):
Unfortunately, I think it takes, like a good it kind
of takes to the halfway point. I really do feel
it takes that long to get a sense of your offense,
of what's going on, the comfort level for the quarterback
to maybe have an honest conversation with the offensive coordinator
being like, hey, I really like this play, or if
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there's a play that the coordinator really likes, for the
quarterback to be like, hey, I'm just not feeling it yet.
Like at first, you just kind of like what the
coordinator likes and you don't know any better. And then
as the season goes along, you start to you know,
kind of get your favorite plays, You get your favorite concepts,
you understanding the protections more and the rhythm of certain plays,
(44:46):
and you start, you know, getting the nerve to say, hey,
let's let's just run this play, like this is my
favorite play, Let's run it three times and just change
up the formation a little bit so I can get completions,
I can get into a rhythm.
Speaker 10 (44:58):
And I really do think it just takes.
Speaker 12 (45:00):
It takes about, you know, a half way point to
get that confidence and to get the feel and the
speed of the game.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
I look at demeanor of quarterbacks, certainly young quarterbacks, because
chances are they had a really successful college career.
Speaker 6 (45:15):
They're not used to, Hey, I just threw a pick six.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
Now I got to go back out like you show
me more after a pick six or an interception than
you do after a touchdown. I want to see how
you go back out there after doing something like that.
You know, I don't know how important that is for
you if you're looking at somebody's head is down or
they go out there and they're like, all right, come on,
let's go. That was one play, let's get it back.
Speaker 10 (45:39):
No, I think it's a good thing to look at.
Speaker 12 (45:41):
And also just you know, if they if they make
a bad play, they throw a bad interception that next series,
do they get a gunshot. Are they are they going
to come out and still you know, rip this this
skinny post on time, or are they going to be
like a little hesitant to go to the checkdown, a
little hesdant and not not you know, take their eyes
(46:02):
down the field and said just you know, find my
completions instead of you know, hey, if something's open, I'm
still gonna rip this.
Speaker 10 (46:08):
I still got confidence I can make these throws.
Speaker 12 (46:10):
And so the you know, being being kind of cautious
is not a great thing, uh as an NFL quarterback
and usually leads to more mistakes. Now you're maybe not
throwing it to your first read who is open, but
it's a longer throw and you're going to check downs
versus man, which is not great, and you can lead
the more problems. So and it's something to look forward
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to and make sure they don't get conservative, they don't
get gun shy, and they still feel they can go
and and uh, you know, ball get the ball out
on Tom.
Speaker 2 (46:41):
Are you contractually obligated to say nice things about the
New York Giants play this year?
Speaker 12 (46:48):
I'm I'm not obligated to say nice things. I think
after Week one, just you know, understanding, I've been in
this situation. I've had a bad Week one before, I've
throw them three interceptions in Week one, We've had losses.
Speaker 10 (47:03):
We've started going too.
Speaker 12 (47:04):
And in the Super Bowl year we started going too
and I had to go down to Washington and down
at halftime and how to come back, when to get
on a little wind streak. I also know it can
change quickly. You can you can get your confidence bat,
you can get on a win streak. So that's what
I'm always optimistic and and I'm a fan of the Giants.
(47:25):
I'm a fan of the coaches. I know him personally.
I see how hard they work. I'm a fan of
Daniel Jones and in this rooting form to do well
and I'm going to be optimistic in that.
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Us all right, Dan, thanks so much. A lot of fun.
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Speaker 2 (48:44):
We start with the Bills rolling the Dolphins. Now I'll
get to Tua and his injury in a moment. I
just want to focus on the game. This is a
sports show, the game itself. When Tua was healthy, the
Dolphins were getting rolled by Buffalo, and I know they'd
had their moments where they could have scored a touchdown
maybe to make it a ten point game. And then
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all of a sudden, they take out Tyreek Hill and
Jalen Waddell with eight minutes to go. Skyler Thompson comes
in and Buffalo goes there. And I said, this was
a must win, must ish win for the Dolphins perception wise,
win this game, even with a healthy Tua. He threw
a pick six, he had another interception that wasn't his fault,
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but did not look good. Tyreek Hill got shut down.
I mean, if I'm Buffalo, Josh Allen didn't have a
great game, but he didn't need to. James Cook was great,
and they were able to dominate the Miami Dolphins. So
if you said, Josh Allen is going to throw for
less than one hundred and fifty yards and he's going
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to rush for less than fifty yards and be like
and they won. Yes, And that was before you had
the injury to Tua. James Cook had three touchdow downs
there to a throws three interceptions and then he suffers
the concussion in the third quarter. Here was the call
on that play with to a tongue of Iloa.
Speaker 11 (50:11):
To out of the shotguns back to throw, looking pressure's
gonna run with it at the five eight yard behind
him it puts his head down and gets bounced down
at the.
Speaker 4 (50:20):
Sixth and he looks dig joe, oh boy.
Speaker 5 (50:24):
Then he had to run.
Speaker 6 (50:25):
He wasn't sure, so instead of sliding, once.
Speaker 5 (50:27):
He got there, he picked up a couple extra yards.
It's a great effort. But well this is uh, this
is not good.
Speaker 4 (50:33):
No, it's not is up walking slowly off the field.
Speaker 2 (50:38):
However, you knew it right away. But if you look
at the play, he lowers his head and he runs
into Damar Hamlin of all people, and Tua initiates the
contact there, but it's not a helmet to helmet And
then you know it's one of those situations where you go,
what's he thinking? But players they react, it's instinctive. Should
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he be out there running lowering his head? No, he
survived all last year, no concussions. Twenty twenty two. We
know what happened there. Now. If I go back to
the twenty twenty two NFL season, that was Week three,
Sunday one o'clock game when he was injured against the
Buffalo Bills. Clearly he had a concussion, clearly, but they
(51:25):
said that it was his back. The official injury if
you go back and look at that, it says that
he suffered a back injury. The injury report was never
listed as a concussion. Okay, Four days later against the
Bengals Thursday night concussion and it's a nationally televised game.
Speaker 6 (51:47):
And then inactive for Week five and six.
Speaker 2 (51:50):
Then he's cleared, and then a day before the Week
six game, but he was held out of that game
as well. The day after the Week sixteen law to
the Packers. That's Christmas Day, National TV once again goes
into the concussion protocol. He had symptoms there. Two days later,
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Tua it's confirmed had a concussion and he was ruled
out of Week seventeen and eventually week eighteen, So that's
two concussions. He wasn't clear to return to practice since
entering the concussion protocol for the Dolphins in the wild
card playoff matchup. He was held out of that as well,
and that was the dolphins last game of the year. Now,
(52:32):
you say, okay, that's three concussions. To me, it's four concussions.
And I know this gets tricky. Even last night, and
the first thing I thought of when I saw Tua
walk off the field. As strange as this is going
to sound, but this is what I thought. Heinz Ward
told me when the Steelers played the Ravens, he went
(52:54):
across the field and he got his bell rung. He
knew that he was concussed. He gets to his feet,
eat and he started limping. He said he thought that
if he could limp, maybe they would not rule him
out with a concussion. When two is coming off the field,
he starts limping, and I'm wondering if in that moment
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he's thinking, how do I stay in the game. They
didn't even take him to the blue tent. They took
him to the locker room, and that's when I realized
that this was going to be serious again. I know
that he took jiu jitsu, he was learning how to fall,
and as I've said before, you can learn how to fall,
But that doesn't mean the person tackling you is going
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to help.
Speaker 6 (53:35):
You with you learning how to fall. And last year
went well.
Speaker 2 (53:40):
But also if you look at the Dolphins offense, it's
predicated on to a not being back seven yards. It's quick.
That's why you got two of the fastest receivers in football.
If you're going to go eighty yards with a touchdown
pass from Tua, chances are he threw it fifteen yards
and then you took it sixty five. It's it's a
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timing aspect there. And they were not on the same
page last night. You know, Kirk Kurbstreet was saying that.
Herbie said, you know, something's wrong here. They were not
in synchronicity and it's all about timing there. And now
you have Skyler Thompson the backup quarterback. That's not the
style that he plays. And you know, I did think
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about that as well. Where I'm going, Okay, you know
you have somebody who has at least had a couple
of concussions. Yes you did, giving that big contract. Everybody's
holding their breath. But if something happens like this could
be to his last game this year, and it could
put an end to the Dolphins trying to be a
playoff team this year. I mean, that's the harsh reality
(54:44):
of this. And then we're going to talk to Mike
Florio next hour about salary cap ramifications. And look, I'm
trying to be as sensitive as possible, but my job
is still to look at this through the lens of sports.
The team salary quarterbacks who could be available. Yes, do
I like to meet his family at the super Bowl
(55:07):
in Miami? Yes, always been friendly to us. I hope
the best for him. I'm not here to say he
should retire. But here's the tricky part with this. If
he is medically cleared and he decides he doesn't want
to play, there's a chance that all that guaranteed money
(55:27):
will not be guaranteed. So imagine if you're the doctor
who's going to either clear him or not clear him.
If he decides, you know what, I want to have
a long life here and I'm not going to play.
Or if he is cleared, then and you're more susceptible
to concussions after you've had a concussion. But this is
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what we've talked about, even when he got the big contract.
Like I'm like, I wouldn't have given him the contract
because of this. It would make me and I know
he played so well last year and the last person
who should be lowering his head and taking on contact
(56:10):
he initiated contact is toua and that's why do the
best you can. But you can't really protect a player
from himself. Instinctively, he's trying to get a first down there,
and it was sad because you want to see these
players be great. He is a great story. You know,
the injury suffered in college. You know, the Dolphins took
(56:33):
a big chance on him, they passed on other quarterbacks.
Then you get Mike McDaniel coming in. He brings in
his offense. They're explosive, they're exciting, Tyreek kill Jalen Wonnell OBJ,
They're ready to go, and then this happens and it's sad.
Speaker 6 (56:50):
It really was.
Speaker 2 (56:51):
It was sad to watch it last night. Here is
Mike McDaniel, the Dolphins head coach, on to his injury.
Speaker 4 (56:59):
I think it's important to.
Speaker 8 (57:02):
Approach each and every situation to the you know, much
like approach every injury with it, which is basically, all right,
we're going to handle this particular situation with this particular player.
You know, every situation is unique to its own, So
(57:22):
you know, I think I think there's for me. I'm
not worried about anything that's out of my hands in
terms of I'm just worried about the human being. And
you know, he'll he'll drive the drive the ship when
we get the appropriate information.
Speaker 6 (57:42):
But it's day by day health. He's clearly shook. You
can hear he's struggling to find the words.
Speaker 4 (57:50):
What do you say?
Speaker 2 (57:51):
How do you spin this in a positive way? But
you know, the Dolphins are going to have to have
football decisions to make, and here we are, it's week two.
Tua with the help of family friends, a doctor is
going to have to have a decision to make football
wise as well.
Speaker 6 (58:13):
His future.
Speaker 2 (58:14):
And I know there are a lot of people on
social media said he should retire. I said that before,
But you know, I'm not the one out there. He's
the one who probably thinks, you know, I can still
make this work. It's all it takes is one play,
one moment, And it didn't seem like it was going
to be something that led to this. He initiated the contact,
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he lowered his helmet, He didn't connect with DeMar Hamlin's helmet.
He initiated this went to the ground, and I mean
he ran into DeMar Hamlin's shoulder, his bicep, and as
soon as he lowered his head, I go, oh, like
I didn't think he would be concussed, But I'm like,
what is He shouldn't be lowering his head And then
(58:58):
he's down and then his teammates knew exactly what was
going on, and then they surrounded him. So the cameras
or people in the audience in the stadium wouldn't know
what's going on. But when you see whether hands and
arms are stiff, I mean it's scary. That is scary,
and everybody you know we're trying to perfect the helmet.
(59:21):
The helmet doesn't protect the brain. It protects the skull.
It doesn't protect the brain. But to a I don't
know what the timeline would be with anything, and I
don't even want to speculate with that. I just want
to deal with what is the football aspect of this.
We all want to it to be healthy. We hope
(59:42):
that he gets to play again. But my job is
also to look at what the bottom line is here?
What do the Dolphins do?
Speaker 5 (59:48):
Now?
Speaker 6 (59:48):
Do they bring in, bring back Ryan Tannehill.
Speaker 2 (59:51):
Can you get somebody who plays a similar style to
Tua because that's what the offense is built around. To
Skyler Tom, they didn't look like they had confidence in
him to run that offense. Even when they get down
inside the five, they were running the football.
Speaker 6 (01:00:08):
They weren't going to let him pass. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
If you reach out to the Rams, Jimmy Garoppolo has
been suspended to you say hey, you know, we'll give
you whatever I mean. You guys are ready to go now.
This team is ready to go now. You got the Jets,
you got the Bills. You know, the Patriots might be
a little more competitive. But prior to the trade deadline,
can you go out there and get somebody in sound
at your season? Is too going to be able to
(01:00:34):
come back? Do the Dolphins want him to come back?
Does he want to come back? So there's a lot
of things in play here other than it is a
concussion and it's a nationally televised game. I can't over
emphasize that enough.
Speaker 6 (01:00:50):
When we see it.
Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
If this is a one o'clock game, it resonates differently
with people. You're watching it, and everybody has you know,
some kind of opinion on this, former players saying he
should retire. Let's get the medical diagnosis. Now you get
your bell rung. This isn't his third concussion or fourth concussion.
(01:01:13):
Chances are he's had numerous concussions. It used to be
when I was growing up, my brothers would play football
and they would get their bell rung. That's like, oh,
got your bell rung. Yeah, we'll get back out there.
But they were suffering concussions.
Speaker 6 (01:01:30):
We just kind of softened it a little bit. You
got your bell rung. Okay, who would we have?
Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
Troy Polamalu, I said, how many concussions he goes? I'll
tell you when I'm done playing football, But he said,
I think he got his bell rung over.
Speaker 6 (01:01:49):
One hundred times.
Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
Just do the math with this, and if your tua,
his family, those around him, it's a lot of money.
But you want to live. You want to live a
life because do you know what happens. I don't know
how many people are checking on Jack Lambert today the
way he played for the Steelers, or Mike Singletary the
(01:02:14):
way he play. Like these players play, they give everything
and then they go and then we move on from
them like Bob Sanders, the way he played for the Colts. See,
that's what would worry me, because we just kind of
chew you up, spit you out. Another guy comes in
and we move on, and then all of a sudden
we see Earl Campbell in a wheelchair and we go.
Speaker 6 (01:02:35):
You look at Earl Campbell. But when he was playing,
we loved it. Love You Blue,
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
This is how it sounded at the end of the game.
Is Northern Illinois beach Notre Dame at Notre Dame?
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Five seconds left?
Speaker 4 (00:11):
Then?
Speaker 5 (00:12):
Are you up?
Speaker 4 (00:12):
Sixteen?
Speaker 6 (00:13):
Fourteen?
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Sixty two yarder?
Speaker 4 (00:16):
Snaphole Jeters? Kick this fuck? It's fucked. It's fucked. Picked
up by you? Picked up?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Bye?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Are you Huskies? I doot it?
Speaker 7 (00:25):
The busts with the biggest upset and are you his story?
Speaker 8 (00:29):
They come to South in Indiana and they knock off
the number five team in the country, n IU sixteen
Notre Dame.
Speaker 7 (00:38):
Fourteen the football odds, we're shining.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Down what au.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Northern Illinois was a twenty eight point underdog in that game,
but somehow they pulled it off and their head coach
Thomas Hammick joining us on the program. Coach, thanks for
joining us. Congratulations. How would you describe the emotional roller
coaster of Saturday's game?
Speaker 5 (01:01):
You know, it was unbelievable.
Speaker 9 (01:02):
You know, in the moment you thought back to all
the things that we've done to build a program to
what it was, and that was just the joy of
our players getting a reward. The joy in their face,
and so that was a really motion for me after
that game because it was just an unbelievable experience. The
kids believed they put the work in, and I was
(01:25):
just proud, you know, for our program and our playoffs.
Speaker 6 (01:28):
Take me into the locker room at halftime, I.
Speaker 9 (01:32):
Told the players, you know, this is right where we
wanted to be, This is right where we expected to be.
You know, we are a physical football team. So the
physicality never botherished me. You know, we're big on the
office of the beefs the blind, and so all week
I told them, you know, we're going to be right
where we want to be in this game from a
physical standpoint if we handle the environment early and our
(01:53):
first kickoff return we let the ball bounce and got
the ball at the two yard line. I thought, hey,
this this has a chance to get away from us.
But they stayed in a fight, and when we got
the halftime, I said, listen, and we won one half
of football, we win.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
The game, and we were able to get that done.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
But you're telling these kids there in South Bend playing
against Notre Dame, most of them probably didn't even get
recruited by Notre Dame, and you got to quiet them
down a little calm them down a little bit, but
you still want them to be fired up. So how
do you walk that tightrope there?
Speaker 9 (02:24):
Yeah, you know, the night before the game, I talked
to them, I said, listen, the rocket Ismael is not
running down that tunnel. And by the look on their face,
I realized they had no idea who I was talking about.
So then I had to take it a step further.
I said, you know, Joe Montana, Ricky Waters, Jerome Bettis,
(02:44):
and so they understood, those guys.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
But I guess what I went and then.
Speaker 9 (02:49):
To understand was we were playing the twenty twenty four
Notre Dame team. We're not playing the nostalgia of Notre Dame.
And they they stayed in a moment from that standpoint,
and I was happy to see it.
Speaker 6 (03:04):
You should have showed them the movie Rudy.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
You know what I thought about that early in the week.
Speaker 9 (03:09):
But then I thought Rudy came out when I was
a kid, so I know for sure, you know, they.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
Have no idea what Rudy was about.
Speaker 6 (03:18):
It hits you right after the game. You got emotional.
Speaker 9 (03:21):
Yes, you know, because I've talked to our team before
the season about the breakthrough, and I told them a
bamboo takes five years to break through the surface, and
when it breaks through the surface, it grows ninety feet.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
Well, this is our sixth year.
Speaker 9 (03:35):
We've done a lot of watering and a lot of
you know, getting these guys to mature. And that felt
like we started to break through at that moment. And
I was just, you know, flush with a wave of
emotion that was unexpected. I'm normally not an emotional guy
in that capacity, but I thought about all the players
that've been a part of helping us build it, all
(03:55):
the coaches that have been a part of helping us.
Speaker 5 (03:57):
Build it, and it was a great moment.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
What it feels like the college football nation is surprised.
It doesn't feel like you're surprised you beat Notre Dame
at Notre Dame.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
No, I wasn't surprised.
Speaker 9 (04:10):
And to take it a step further, you know, I
meet with my staff on you know, game day in
the mornings and I told him, I said, listen, I
had a dream we were gonna win this game by
field goal. I know, I said, I had a dream
the game was gonna come down to a field goal.
And I said, I walk up, So I can't.
Speaker 10 (04:27):
Tell you what happened.
Speaker 9 (04:30):
I'm not I'm not that I'm not that good, but
I had a dream that it came down to a
field goal. In the week before, we had some issues
on you know, extra point, and so I had that
nervousness going about me.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
But I'm glad it turned out the way it did.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
He's Thomas Hammock, the Northern Illinois head coach. You got
a bye week this week? Do you wish you were playing?
Orre you glad you got to buy it?
Speaker 5 (04:54):
Oh? I am glad. I am glad we have a
bye week.
Speaker 9 (04:58):
First of all, you know, obviously I've grown up watching you,
but like doing these type of things that it wouldn't
be possible. We had a game this week, and getting
our players offer the emotional high that they've been on.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
This is a great week we got.
Speaker 9 (05:12):
We got improvement practices, so we really can lock them
back in as a coaching staff to get them ready
for you know, our next game.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Did anybody surprise you reaching out after you beat Notre Dame.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
Yeah, I'm a huge Yankees fan. Huge.
Speaker 9 (05:27):
I grew up in Jersey City, New Jersey, and Aaron
Boone texted me, uh, Sunday morning and you I mean,
you know, for me, that was you know, you can
you know that was just an unbelievable text from him.
You know, he's in season for for him to do that,
and uh, you know being from the East Coast and
(05:49):
listen that that that that one got me.
Speaker 6 (05:52):
What did coach Freeman say to you after the game?
Speaker 5 (05:55):
You know, he was very complementary.
Speaker 9 (05:57):
You know, I had a chance to talk to him
before the game and just told him, you know how
five I was of him, and you know, having an
opportunity to lead that program, and he was, you know,
my first time meeting him.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
I don't know him at all, and he was very
down on earth, very humble.
Speaker 9 (06:16):
You know, you figure, guys, the head coach, you know,
the Dame, he don't have to talk to me, but
for him to take time to speak to me. And
then obviously after the game he was very complimentary, which
I thought was pretty cool.
Speaker 6 (06:27):
Did notre Dame recruit you?
Speaker 9 (06:30):
Oh no, no, I wasn't. I wasn't noticed Dame material
from a football standpoint. I was not the day material
from an academic standpoint, But from a football standpoint, I
wasn't close.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Uh, you gotta gotta bring him back down to earth
today practice.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
Yeah, you know, we got to buy a week, so
I gave him a couple of days off.
Speaker 9 (06:49):
You know, I'm from the I'm from the NFL, right,
and so you know, if you win going into a buy,
you give him some more time off. If you lose,
you get him back on the practice. So, uh, you know,
I gave him a couple of days to get themselves back.
But you know, I'm looking at these emails about academics,
so I'm on that, you know, guys turning in work
and different things like that, because we are we are
(07:11):
coaches and teachers, and that's still a part of the job.
Speaker 6 (07:14):
Congrats, I know it's a long time coming.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
You've done a great job there with your alma mater,
and uh, don't screw it up the rest of the season.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
All right, Thank you. I appreciate that.
Speaker 6 (07:25):
Thank you, coach, Thank you.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
And go Husky.
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Speaker 2 (08:17):
We make way for Jim Harbaugh for a season, Charger's
head coach. Who has it better than we do nobody.
Speaker 6 (08:24):
How about that. We're getting a lot of mielelage out
of that.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
That story you told us when you and your brother
and sister are walking what a mile to wherever and
your dad made it seem like you got the greatest
life in the world.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
They sure did.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Dan.
Speaker 11 (08:40):
It came out one day We're living in Iowa City, Iowa,
and uh we had a we had a dealer car,
but for some reason, that dealer car wasn't there that day,
and uh, my dad said, no car today, boys, we're walking.
John grab A basketball hundred with the right, then a
(09:01):
hundred with the left. Jim, get a basketball hundred with
the right, hundred with the left. We're walking who's got
it better than us? Nobody?
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Dead?
Speaker 5 (09:10):
Nobody?
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (09:13):
Now do you say that?
Speaker 2 (09:14):
If you say that to your team, do they they
look at you and go, Okay, I don't know what
this means, but you certainly seem enthusiastic about it.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
Yeah. No, it's it's the uh, there's a couple of
layers of it.
Speaker 11 (09:27):
Uh, you know, the it's just a way of looking
at something, right, I mean, who's got it better than us?
Speaker 5 (09:32):
Nobody? That's a perspective. And then it also has the
layer of.
Speaker 11 (09:39):
There's there's of anchor weights of you know, sometimes you
don't think you have it good or somebody else has
got it better, but it's actually the thing that's that, uh,
you know, making you overcome something that makes you better.
For example, you know, I grew up, you know, as
a kid wanting to be a major league shortstop. You know,
until at the time I was U seventeen years old,
(10:01):
I was I was destined and born to be uh.
But it turned out that you know, there was there
was kids in the Dominican Republican who had it a
lot better than I did. You know, they didn't have
a field. They their their ball glove was was a
milk carton.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
Uh.
Speaker 11 (10:17):
So there was a lot of bad hops. Turned out
that they had it better than I did because I
had a glove and I had a had a decent field.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
And then it's the it's the it's the thing that
I really say.
Speaker 11 (10:31):
My dad said to us as a family, and I
thought what he was really saying when he said, you
know who's got it better than us, you know, Jim
and John. He was really telling us that, you know,
he he was the lucky one to have, you know,
to be a dad and have these you know, this family.
And when we said nobody back then, what we were
(10:52):
really saying was, you know, we loved it. We loved
being in this family. So it's it's carried on, you know,
from one generation to the next. And when I say it,
I say it about my two I say it to
my two great loves, my family at home and my
my family at work. You know, there's no coach that
could could have it better and be coaching. Uh, you
know this in this organization with these players and these coaches,
(11:13):
And I said, when I say it to my kids,
I say it the same way, like I'm the luckiest
dad there is.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Tell me about you gave each of your players a
work shirt with their name, the patch, the lightning bolt
logo on there. So something an auto mechanic might wear.
Why do you have the Do you have the shirt there?
Speaker 5 (11:33):
Oh? I got it?
Speaker 6 (11:34):
Okay, my blue collar shirt right here, so it is
blue collar.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Our gas station guy might wear something like that old school.
Speaker 11 (11:46):
Yeah, yeah, you know, it's interesting you mentioned that at that.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (11:52):
Obviously it's a a motivational shirt. It's uh, you know
it honors and honors work, and that's that's the first
layer of that. Then the second layer, you know, for
me and and really everybody is uh, I'm honoring the
people in my life that did the did the dirty work,
(12:13):
you know, and everybody's got it.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
You got it, I've got it.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Uh.
Speaker 11 (12:17):
Some people goes back one generation to their parents, uh,
or it goes back to their grandparents, maybe their great grandparents.
Not very often, but there's somebody in your family, Dan,
I know that, uh, you know, did it, maybe did
a job that they didn't love to do, but they
did it. To put a roof over the family's head.
(12:38):
And and uh, in my case, that's that's uh my
two grandparents, Joseph Pedie, that's my mom's dad.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
And uh.
Speaker 11 (12:46):
In fact, he he he went to work. He's had
a full time job since he was in the sixth grade.
He had to, uh, he had to leave the sixth
grade and go work for his family. Came over from
Italy when he was four years old. And in fact,
he worked in a in a filling station, you know
that that was that was his job. And then he
became a he became a self taught mechanic and uh,
(13:09):
before before he was done, he got so good at
being a mechanic that he was he was treaching treat
teaching mechanics at Cleveland Trade School. And he wore short
shirt like this. He just exactly liked this. I remember
growing up and his said Joe on it. And my
dad's dad, Bill Harbaugh, he was a braakman on a train. Uh,
(13:30):
and he wore the.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
Wear the wore the same kind of shirt and.
Speaker 11 (13:34):
He said Bill, Uh. And he he became an engineer.
And but the bottom line was he got he got
my he got my dad and his kids to college. Uh,
my dad went to Bowling Green State University. My mother, Jackie,
also went to Bowling Green State University. That's where they met.
My dad played football and my mom was a cheerleader.
(13:57):
Both became educators after after college. And as Michelle Obama says,
I mean, the closest guarantee you have, uh to success
in life is education.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
I believe that.
Speaker 11 (14:12):
But and that's what allowed my my mom and dad
to do do a job they love. My dad became
a coach and uh and then uh yeah that but
I I look back and I honor I honored Josh,
Joseph p Ed and Bill Harball for doing the job,
the dirty work to uh for for their family. So
that's that's the second piece to that, to that to
(14:35):
that work shirt. Thanks thanks for asking that. That's uh,
that's something very important too.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
To me and our family.
Speaker 6 (14:43):
Jim Harball. The Chargers won their opener beat the Raiders.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Next game will be coming up next Sunday, they'll face
the Panthers. You got the game ball? How many how
many game balls have you ever received? You seem kind
of surprised emotional after the game.
Speaker 11 (15:00):
That was uh, you know, that was a great moment.
There's you know, it's one of the it's one of
the best feelings there is. UH when you're when you're
part of a team and you're you know, you're working
so hard for for for your team to have success,
you know, the betterment of the organization, the betterment of
of all of its members, and uh yeah when it
(15:22):
when it comes together, and uh, that's that's a tremendous
feeling of victory, feeling of winning. And and mister Spanos
UH gifted myself and and Joe Hortis UH a game ball.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
And that was that was that was that was cool
to be a part of.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
I know you talked about winning multiple championships with the Chargers.
Let me go back to you leaving Michigan the landscape
of college football. What role did that play, if any
in you wanting to leave college football to go back
to the NFL.
Speaker 11 (15:53):
Well, so it was it was you know, it's just
a piece, a piece to the the puzzle. I think,
I think, uh, I think what you're asking me. Maybe
maybe I'm getting that wrong, but uh, you know, the
uh the chance to win a win, a Super Bowl,
win a championship, to just simply be known as UH
as World champions.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
That's that's uh, that was That's definitely a piece to
the puzzle.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
But nil transfer portal didn't have an adverse effect. You know,
Nick Saban's talked about this some of these other you know,
high profile coaches that you want to coach. Now you
got to be worried about how much money uh kids
constantly transferring in and out?
Speaker 6 (16:34):
Is the NFL simpler?
Speaker 5 (16:36):
I always looked at that as uh as real positives,
uh change that needed to be made. Uh.
Speaker 11 (16:42):
You know that's taken you know, fifty some years for
for there to be revenue sharing. Still not there yet,
but uh you know, in in my opinion that that
needs to happen. But that's that's Uh. It's uh week two,
it's week two for the uh Los Angeles Chargers, and
you know all the all the focus and attention is
(17:05):
is really there. But yeah, it's just uh, if you had.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Won a Super Bowl, would you have gone back to
the NFL if you had already won?
Speaker 11 (17:14):
Well, that's a great question. I The other piece of
the puzzle is like, this is the highest level. You know,
I want to I want to see if I if
I if I measure up, if I can come into
this tremendous organization and.
Speaker 5 (17:28):
And add value. Yeah. That Uh, that's a that's a
piece of it too.
Speaker 11 (17:32):
I you know, I love the challenge and this this uh,
this league, as you know. I mean you've heard heard
a thousand million people say it. I mean it's it's
really hard to get a win.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
Uh.
Speaker 11 (17:45):
And it's it's uh, it's it's really it's really special
to win a championship. I haven't done it. To your question,
I remember, I remember. It's almost like it's like the
Field of Dreams movie.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
Uh.
Speaker 11 (17:59):
Remember Bert lang Caster, you know, he was talking about
his playing days and uh and he said he walked
off that field thinking there'd be other days, but there
were no other days.
Speaker 7 (18:11):
And I.
Speaker 11 (18:14):
Walked off that Super Bowl field in uh in New Orleans,
thinking there'll be another day. There'll be another day. You
don't know if there is going to be another day.
So uh, to have that opportunity to be back back
in position, to be in position, I'm you're gonna attack
it with an enthusiasm unknown to man.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
Time.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
We just had Alex Smith on last Hour and I said,
give me a hardball story, and he said, you know
that guy, He says, all I wanted to do was
play football, coach football, and then die.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
That's true.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
I've said that. I thought that.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
I've so you believe that you play football, you're going
to coach football, and you're going to coach until you die.
Speaker 6 (19:00):
That's the plan.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
That's that's been the plan. That has been the plan.
Speaker 6 (19:04):
Yeah, does your wife know that's the plan?
Speaker 11 (19:08):
That was Uh, that's been the plan since I was
five years old. I I I must admit that I
remember being in Bowling Green. My dad was coaching at
Bowling Green at the time, and Uh, I was getting
off the kindergarten bus to go to uh to go
to school, and I used to I used to like
visualize that. I was like like my dad like uh
(19:31):
when he was with his team and he would get
off the bus, you know, uh and the players would
get off the bus. So I used to just picture
being on the on the team bus, you know, getting
off the bus, and like I was walking into the
to the stadium and uh kind of makes the little
hairs on my arm stand up because I've you know,
it's just been been able to do that, you know,
pretty much my whole life, you know, since then. And
(19:54):
I had that thought as a five and a half
six year old like, yeah, that's what I'm gonna do.
I'm gonna play as long as I can, then coach
and then then die. Uh that was uh yeah, it's
it's genuine to me.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Well, I remember Brent Musburger saying that to me about
Joe Paterno. He said he will never retire. Joe Paterno
will die. I He'll coach until he dies. And you know,
he said, that's my fear with Joe Paterno. And he
pretty much did that until they kind of, you know,
kicked him to the curb.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
I just have so much gratitude Dan, uh, you know,
just for for you know, being able to do what.
Speaker 11 (20:40):
I love and uh it's have a job, you know,
to be able to work, you know worked to me
is uh he probably saw it and that uh you know,
some of it in the work shirt there. But there's
a uh and that's that that work ethic I get
from from watching my my dad and my mom and
my grandpa's and my and my and my my family.
Speaker 5 (21:02):
Uh you know.
Speaker 11 (21:03):
That's faith family football. That uh that is uh you know,
that's that's core. So uh, just you know, keep keep
praying that you know I can. I can have one
more day to to uh work on work on football,
you know, work on uh going to Carolina and seeing
if we can uh win number two. We're can't be
(21:27):
can't be two and o unless you want to know
we're there now.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
It's that is actually true. You can't be too and
unless you're want enough.
Speaker 11 (21:34):
So just saying that, I just have a lot of
gratitude to be able to do this. I mean, uh,
I mean, uh, I'm just gonna just gonna keep going.
And uh and my wife, you know, Sarah, nobody nobody's
got it better then I.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
I thought you were gonna say nobody's got it better
than she does because she's married.
Speaker 11 (21:55):
No, no, she I'm the lucky one again. I got
I drew the long straw there, mister Patrick.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
All right, before we let you go, we're gonna play
the What did Jim Harbaugh have for breakfast?
Speaker 6 (22:05):
All right, Todd, you guess first?
Speaker 4 (22:07):
Some kind of yogurt with granola.
Speaker 6 (22:09):
Okay, okay, seating? I think just a little eggs and bacon.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Okay, that's old school Midwest Marvin turkey and egg whites.
Speaker 6 (22:19):
Turkey and egg whites.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Wow, PAULI coach has no time for breakfast at Homie
shot out of a cannon.
Speaker 8 (22:24):
I think a staffer leaves a banana on his desk
efficiency get.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
Back to coaching.
Speaker 6 (22:29):
I'm gonna say no breakfast yet, you're right.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
You were both right. There's been there's been no breakfast.
Speaker 6 (22:38):
There's no time a diet, coke, die coke or die. Yeah,
all right, let's see it.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
I would have thought steak and eggs, but you know
you don't. A glass of milk, A nice glass of milk.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
We're up, We're up and at it, attacking.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Okay, Uh, good luck against Carolina. Good to talk to
you again, and thanks for John mister Patrick.
Speaker 11 (23:01):
I uh, I was just I'm just waiting for you
to bring up the two foot putt.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
I missed it at Lake Nona. Uh back in the nineties.
Speaker 6 (23:11):
I'm trying to I was trying to keep it positive.
Speaker 11 (23:15):
Every interview you've ever done, you've always brought up the
two foot putt.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
No, No, you're on the Carolina. I'm on to Carolina.
I'm Belichick. We're not going to go back. We're going
forward here.
Speaker 6 (23:27):
Thanks, thank you. That's Jim Harbaugh who has it better
than we do.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
No, Moody.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAP.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Jimmy Fallon, host of The Tonight Show. Look, who's turning
fifty years of age? How is that possible? You're kind
of are you taking whatever Paul Rudd is taking or
Jason Bateman?
Speaker 4 (23:58):
Yeah, no, I'm starting to feel it. It's happening.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Fifties coming, It's here, okay, And you know, you get
to be fifty, you start playing a little more golf.
Maybe you're not doing as much work. You maybe want
to slow down a little bit. Now you're out there,
you know. With this grudge match with DJ Collin, how
did this come about?
Speaker 4 (24:16):
I just thought I followed Dj khaled on all the
socials and the Instagrams and stuff, and so I'm looking
at he keeps posting these photos of him playing golf,
and he looked like he'd be fun to play with
if he also looked like someone I could beat.
Speaker 6 (24:31):
I'm not that good, Yeah, how can you play?
Speaker 4 (24:36):
I mean, I'm East Coast. I'd say probably. I'm not kidding.
Five to ten times a year, it looks like he
plays a whole lot more than that. Jimmy, Yeah, I
think he lives on a golf course.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Do you think about putting money up other than somebody
gets a nice cardigan?
Speaker 6 (24:53):
Like make it interesting?
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Where As Tiger Woods once said to me, when I
said I'd like to play in golf, what do we
play play for?
Speaker 6 (25:00):
You said, whatever makes you nervous?
Speaker 4 (25:02):
Oh my god, can I tell you, though, how nervous
I actually did get. Because so it's obviously I'm doing
this to be fun and to make a funny thing.
But we had a real PJ official it's we play
four holes. We're at in Lake Tahoe, so we're after
the We had the cameras stay after the American Century Championship.
(25:23):
We asked NBC to do as a favor. This whole
thing came about in like two weeks. But you get
you get up to the seventeenth holes, a par three,
and there's five thousand people screaming, and then when you're
about to swing, they're quiet, And it's the most nerve
wracking thing I've ever done in my life. I mean,
I'm a Canadian. I don't do that. I felt like
an athlete I'm like, oh my gosh, this is the
(25:45):
pressure Man. And so when you see the first shot,
it's it's it's I don't want to spoiler it, but
it's something so ridiculous. It feels like something you'd see
in a movie.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Well, like, as a comedian, the last thing you want
to hear is islands. Like You're right.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
Completely all was running around trying to hype everyone up.
You know, it was funny we were talking to I
sent DJ Khala to text and I said, hey, dude,
you just look like you'd be fun to play with.
Maybe we could. I could challenge you on the show
and we'll do something. And he goes, yeah, maybe i'd
be done with I just gotta check my schedule. And
then I just challenged him on the show for real,
and I said, the winner will get instead of a
(26:23):
green blazer like the Master's blazer, gets a red cardigan sweater,
and we really hype it up and that'll be the
that'll be the gift that the winner gets. So I
challenged him on the show live, and the next day
he happened to be in New York and he came
on the show and accepted. And then we called and
me seeing me like, how can we do this? And
they're like, you can't. You can't just era an eighteen
(26:46):
hole match? Can you play and go? Not really? I
mean i'd say I'm double bogie golf. You know, I
don't know if you want to? He goes, No one
wants to watch that for five hours. It's boring, so
I go, so let's think of another way to do it.
So it's four holes. There's a it's a breakfast ball that.
It's actually fascinating television. I loved it. Is there drinking involved?
(27:08):
Not for me, there wasn't, but for that crowd in Tahoe.
Oh yeah, Oh my goodness, dude.
Speaker 5 (27:14):
I was like Dan.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
I was like, yeah, I get to get out of here, dude.
It was really maybe I would say five to ten
thousand people, I'll go nuts.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
You can see what coming up Friday. So this Friday,
it'll be eleven thirty five Eastern. So normally when you
watch the Tonight Show with Jimmy, you'll be able to
see the four hole.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
Now I think, I think if you're a sports bar,
you should have a full on raging party this Friday
night at your bar. And if you wear a cardigan
into the bar. You get a drink special, get one
from your grandma, get whatever you can get at Cargan sweater,
go in and go.
Speaker 5 (27:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
Jimmy said that there'll be a drink special tonight if
I wore a cardigan. It's because it's when you're going
to see a live, an unaired sporting event at you know,
Friday night, This Friday, at eleven thirty at night, it's
perfect bar time.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Who's easier to interview? If I said musicians, actors, athletes.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
I would say athletes number three, definitely. I'd say I'd
say probably actors, actors number one, then musicians than athletes.
I feel like athletes are tougher because they've trained their
whole life to be an athlete, not really talk. You know,
it's not a gift that they trained for, so it's
(28:32):
kind of they have great stories, but they're not really
media trained.
Speaker 11 (28:37):
You know.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
Where actors are and musicians. I think my favorite part
is comedians, just because that's where I got my start
and I get to goof off with all those guys
like Will Ferrell. I can send him an idea, he
won't even read it and they'll just say yes, I
go no, you should read it first.
Speaker 6 (28:53):
Will He's like, no, I trust to you.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
I go, I have you dressed this little debbie. He's like, yeah, no,
I love it.
Speaker 6 (28:59):
We'll figure you know.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
But I'm fascinated by all of them. You know, I'm
interested in everybody I have. I once said Drew Brees
on the show, and he was great, and we did
a game where we're throwing footballs and breaking plates. Okay,
very high quality television. And he was playing against Taylor Loudner,
who was a great actor in all the Twilight movies.
(29:23):
And so I picked up a plate and I threw
it up and Drew Brees threw it and he missed.
And then I threw a plate up and Taylor Lotner
hit one. So now it's one nothing. Taylor Lotner second one.
I throw up. Taylor Loutner hits his second plate. If
he hits one more, he wins. All of a sudden,
Drew Brees stops having fun. He goes into this, he
goes into this mode. Laser red, laser eyes came out
(29:46):
of his He was like jumping up and down and
it was like not fun anymore. And he was throwing
before I let go of the plate. It was disintegrating
in my hand. He was like, I'm not losing to
this actor.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Well, I experienced that firsthand in Tahoe, of all places.
I'm playing golf with him in a century tournament. I'd
made back to back birdies. I'm on the fringe of
the green with a chance for three in a row.
He walks by me as I'm getting ready to putt
and he says, I can't believe that you could possibly
(30:19):
have three birdies in a row, like with such disdain
for me. We got done with the round. Jimmy and
Ray was so upset with his round. He parred the
par five last hole and he walked off the green.
He didn't shake my hand or Ben Roethlisberger's hand. He
was so upset. And I see him the next day
(30:41):
and I'm like, oh my god. The last guy I
want to run into is Drew Brees. And I'm on
the range and my caddie goes here.
Speaker 6 (30:47):
He comes. I go, oh my god. He walks by
and he goes, hey, Dan, how you doing. I go good.
He doesn't even say anything about yesterday.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Yeah, and no, he got he did that whole locked
in laser focus.
Speaker 6 (31:02):
Didn't even shake Ben Rothersberger's hand.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
These athletes don't like to lose. I remember beating Tiger
Woods at a video game of his own game, and
he who cares. I mean, it's a video game, so
clearly you're Tiger Woods. He got so mad and I go, hey, Tiger,
you know, if you hold it it was a Nintendo
Wii said if you hold the button down and shake it,
it gives you back spin. He goes, don't tell me
how to play my game. It's this whole thing's a joke.
(31:30):
What are you doing? But when you see this thing
Friday night, it is so it's so silly, but it's funny,
but it's real. We have an official, a PGA official,
so it's all by the rules. It starts raining, there's
thunder and lightning, it gets it's honestly the most everything
that could happen happened. I couldn't have written it better.
(31:50):
And he's a great guy to play with.
Speaker 6 (31:51):
Are you still a judgsman?
Speaker 4 (31:54):
Yeah? I am. You know, it's kind of that thing
where you just kind almost I don't know, it's not
giving up, it's just you go, there's other things in
life I can do. I can do others I can
I can water color paint, I can do anything I
could do. I just don't why why do it to yourself?
And then I'll find myself rooting for the Giants too,
(32:17):
just because they're New Yorkers and they come on the
show all the time, and straight hand, I'll get mad
if I don't. So but yeah, you know, I thought,
for a second, I think a lot of Jets fans,
for a second, go this could be.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
We do it every year.
Speaker 6 (32:31):
I know, why would why would.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
We even say that to each other? Why would we
say this could be? Don't say it? This course is
not the year.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
If you could only watch one of your Saturday Night
live skits, or you wanted your grandkids to see your
Saturday Night like the one that you go, that's it.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
Oh, I mean it's probably would have to be cow
Bell or or with Will or you know. My favorite
one was Mick Jagger. I did it thing with Mick Jagger.
He was on the show and Rolling Stones were on
the show, and Mick wanted to do a sketch and
so I go, Lauren goes go picture sketch to uh, Mick,
and I go, if you want to go, I'm not
talking to Mick Jack, I'm afraid I can't you talk
(33:13):
to him. He goes, no, he's cool, go talk to him.
So I wrote down all these ideas. I go, Mick,
I have this idea where me and you are are
work at a Sunglass hut or something. He's like, no,
not that, not that. Yeah, he's very very very nice
to me, very very patient. He goes, not that. And
so before the meeting, I said to Lauren, maybe I'll
(33:33):
do an am pressure of Mick in the mirror. You know,
I'll be his reflection. Lauren goes, please don't do that.
That's been done so many times. Please Lucille Ball did it.
I just don't do it man. So anyway, so I'm
running down these ideas. I go, how about this idea, Mick,
me and you. You're Keith and I'm Keith and he
cloned himself so we can party with him whatever. And
(33:53):
he goes like, nah, no, not that. I go down
like ten ideas. I'm getting sweaty. I go, what if
it's you in the mirror and You're like, why am
I doing this show again? I've done it in the seventies, eighties,
Now what my rooster?
Speaker 5 (34:06):
What my do?
Speaker 4 (34:07):
And he goes, uh, A lot. That A lot that
I did. Yeah, I lot that. And so I had
to go in the Lorn's office and say good news
and bad news. Good news. He wants to do a sketch.
Bad news. We're doing the reflection in the mirror. Then
we wrote it on a Friday night, which is so rare,
usually write on a Tuesday night. We were on a
Friday night, got to set down. They made the best
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reflective set where everything is backwards in the mirror, and
we rehearsed it once and did it on Saturday night
and the place erupted. It was a it was I
think it was for me. It was a perfect sketch
for me.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Let me, let me see a little bit. You got
a purple like a blouse on or something here?
Speaker 4 (34:43):
Yeah, yeah, I got I'm wearing a purple. We're both
wearing matching Mick Jagger purples satin blouses. And we're like, what,
You're gone the rooster rooster, Come on it. I'm pulling
my finger at you.
Speaker 5 (34:56):
I'll keep.
Speaker 12 (34:59):
You know.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
He's just got out of control. And I was brand
new on SNL and I remember he loved it so
much that he put his hand through the mirror and
shit my hand and the place was shaking, and I
was hot from all the apply. It was just really
exciting moment for me because I'm just such a fan
of his and I love that sketch. Any any of
those ones where the place rocked, you know, very lucky
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to get those sketches.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
But even the last year, it felt like on Sunday
Night Live, everybody was intent on cracking you up, like
they the goal was to make you not get through it.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
It was painful, Dan, It was painful everybody because they
knew I'm an easy laugh. You know, I just love
I'm a fan of comedy, and it's very unprofessional to me.
But Will Ferrell would We've been doing a sketch where
we're in a hot tub together and him and Rachel
Dratch were this creepy couple that would get in the
hot tub, and like a hotel. At a hotel, there
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were those creepy couple that would get and he would
eat like a duck leg or something and he go like,
how I And then every time I talked, his hand
would pinch me under the water because he knew I
would start laughing.
Speaker 6 (36:05):
Oh, that's not in the script for him to do it.
He just is pinching, okay, yeah, And.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
So he would do that, or Molly Shannon would do
stuff that she just knew, Well, look at me, just
make me laugh, and Tina Fey would just and they
would crack me up, and I'm like in her ratio
sounds and I would just get in trouble and they
didn't like it.
Speaker 12 (36:22):
You know.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
I had one line in cow Bell and Will Ferrell
and Chris push each other and Will's wearing a shirt
where his guts hanging out the bottom and his glasses
fall off and he looked like an insane man. And
I had my one line and I flubbed it, and
then everyone's mad at me. It's like they do, wuldn't
put me in sketches? I got in trouble.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Is Jimmy fallon The Tonight Show coming up this Friday, eleven,
thirty five pm Eastern on NBC. It's the big showdown
that everybody's talking about. It's the Cardigan Classic with a
DJ Collin and there's a little bit of everything in there,
a little bit of everything.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
It's really fun, but it's a good hour and it
flies by quickly. It also repeats on Peacock the next day,
and then Golf Channel on Monday Monday Night.
Speaker 6 (37:06):
Good to talk to you, Jimmy.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
Thanks for joining us, but always good to talk to you.
Speaker 6 (37:10):
Thank thank you.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
I appreciate you having me on. Keep it up, keep
up to good work.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
He's Eli Manning, two times Super Bowl MVP, and today
hundreds of New York City street cart vendors are ditching
their New York pretzels for kings Hawaiian soft pretzel bites. They,
of course, are big sponsor King Zawaian. They're going to
bring us meet Friday coming up tomorrow. But uh look
who's in the heart of New York City. It's Eli
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Manning joining us on the program. How are you, Eli, I'm.
Speaker 12 (37:49):
Doing great, Dan, How are you. I gotta get you
to come visit my card. You know you gotta get
some soft pretzel bites here.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Well, we're going to have that tomorrow. Kings Hawaiian is
coming to us and then they're going to bring that.
Looks like you're running a lemonade stand here it is.
Speaker 12 (38:03):
That is the idea, except it's Kings of Line soft
pretzel bites instead. And I'm in the middle of New
York City, and this is what I do. You know,
New Yorker's brought me so much joy and their support.
I want to give back by giving out some uh
self presle bites.
Speaker 6 (38:18):
Look at you, You're just a man of the people.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Okay, But do you ever run into a fan who's
mad at you for something that you may have done
during your career?
Speaker 4 (38:27):
Uh?
Speaker 10 (38:28):
You know, I think five years being retired, they've forgotten.
Speaker 12 (38:31):
It's amazing how they forget about all the interceptions, the
terrible games, the losses. They always remember the good stuff,
and so I I you know, the same thing happens
to quarterbacks. You know, five years of my I lost
the game, a game I thought we won.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Everyone.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
I was watching the Manning cast, and I was wondering,
with your brother and Bill Belichick there in the same room,
who is more of a football nerd Peyton or Coach Belichick.
Speaker 10 (38:56):
Ah, Man, I gotta I mean, I think I gotta
go with Belichick.
Speaker 12 (39:00):
Just I mean, he's just an encyclopedia of knowledge on
on football and everything. You could hear him in the
TV timeouts. There's someone in his room that he's talking with.
He's like, hey, wow, they're going like bear defense.
Speaker 10 (39:13):
This is not real sound. I don't like this move
Like he is.
Speaker 12 (39:16):
He is, you know, constantly just game planning, analyzing, looking
at everything, seeing things that are unique or different or
oh this is a really good and so I mean,
he is just right in the middle of it. Peyton
during the during the TV timeouts, he's eating like a
chicken parm sandwich or like, you know, the Buffalo wings.
Just you know, he's always got sauce on his face.
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He's a disaster.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
But he was offended when Brandon and I dropped that
ball like it it was if he was still playing it.
It hurts him sometimes to watch bad football.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
It does.
Speaker 12 (39:48):
It does hurt him, And especially when a guy's been
out of training camp. You sit out, you sign this big, great,
big contract, and then you drop you drop past this
like what you know, Hey, let's.
Speaker 10 (40:00):
Get the contract done.
Speaker 12 (40:01):
I think he's just mad at the whole situation that
that the idea of like missing training camp blows his
mind to him. He looked forward to training camp. He's
like finally I get to go. I think it should
be a longer training camp. We shuld have longer football season.
And that's his mentality. So I think if he's sense it,
if someone doesn't have that same mentality, he just can't resonate.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
There was a sneaky line that you know, Belichick talked
about going to those super Bowl parties after you lose
the Super Bowl and then you go. I never went
to one of those, and it was it was an
awesome line just to see Belichick's response to it.
Speaker 10 (40:40):
Yeah, I was.
Speaker 12 (40:41):
I almost say like, hey, you know, Bill, were you
invited the Peyton's loser, you know, super Bowl party?
Speaker 10 (40:46):
But I bit my tongue.
Speaker 12 (40:47):
I can't say that the coach Belichick too much respect
for him. He won to me the other you know,
super bowls, and but yeah, I mean Peyton. I was surprised,
like you know, about having everybody had to loot lost
the championship to get invited to this party.
Speaker 10 (41:06):
So I guess I'm glad I wasn't invited.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
He's Eli manning, two time Super Bowl MVP, joining his
courtesy of Kings Hawaiian their new soft preencil bites and
he's in the heart of Manhattan's Flat Iron district. Today,
Connor Murray talked about, hey, you know, the game plan
didn't call for us to get the ball to Marvin Harrison.
He said, you know, like pointed the finger at the
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offensive coordinator. He said, it's not on the quarterback, okay,
And I criticized him because even if it's not on you,
it is on you.
Speaker 6 (41:39):
You're the quarterback, you own it. It's your team.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
But how do you get the ball to somebody who
everybody knows that you want to get the ball too?
Speaker 12 (41:49):
Well, I think there's always a couple staple plays where
you can put them, you know, put your receiver to
a certain spot, you know, and this is a no
matter basically, no matter what the coverage is about or
what the defense. You know, we can get him the
ball on the outside, on a short end or on
a hitch route, on a slant route, and it's not
guaranteed it's going there. They could dictate the coverage to
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take you away.
Speaker 10 (42:11):
But you know, I don't.
Speaker 12 (42:12):
I don't think that Marvin Harrison Junior is getting double
teams on every play right now. I don't think you know,
a rookie he hadn't played a game, I don't think
you're gonna draw that attention. And sometimes it's just it
is truly just based on you know, hey, we want
to get them the ball. If they're playing a Manda man,
you're going to go to your guy. But it just
depends on what the coverage is, or you have some
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special plays to get them on some play action. Those
are the ones a little harder and we have a
play action a two man route, maybe they play a
different coverage or he gets covered up by the by
his zone coverage. But there are a couple of plays
in this you know, three step five step passing game
where you can't get the ball to, you know, to
certain guys.
Speaker 6 (42:51):
How often would receivers come back to you in the
huddle and say I'm open?
Speaker 12 (42:58):
They you know, we have pretty good receivers if you
it's one of those feels if you ask them, hey,
were you open on the last play, the answers always yes,
Like they don't they don't even think about what the
play was. They don't even say yes. That's just their mentality.
But there are there are, you know, times we're on
the sideline they'll come up and they'll be like, hey,
this guy cannot hang with me. They're they're pressing it.
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I'm running by him. Or they'll come and say, hey,
this guy's getting antsy.
Speaker 10 (43:24):
We need to double move them. Like normally they have
pretty good suggestions, and.
Speaker 12 (43:29):
You know, there and there were times there were maybe
a few times on the sideline where I worked, you know,
worked the other side of a man. The man I
do a you know, a fade stop to your team
mix and I would ask like Victor, Hey, Victor, did
you get opened on the fade on the other side,
And sometimes he would say like, no, not not really,
not really. He kind of covered me up on that one.
But you know, next time, I definitely don't beat him.
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I'm prepared for the next one. So they don't want
you to think don't go to him by any means.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
Patience for rookie quarterbacks, like, at what point do we
get sense of what kind of season it's going to
be for these rookie quarterbacks.
Speaker 12 (44:05):
Unfortunately, I think it takes, like a good it kind
of takes to the halfway point. I really do feel
it takes that long to get a sense of your offense,
of what's going on, the comfort level for the quarterback
to maybe have an honest conversation with the offensive coordinator
being like, hey, I really like this play, or if
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there's a play that the coordinator really likes, for the
quarterback to be like, hey, I'm just not feeling it yet.
Like at first, you just kind of like what the
coordinator likes and you don't know any better. And then
as the season goes along, you start to you know,
kind of get your favorite plays, You get your favorite concepts,
you understanding the protections more and the rhythm of certain plays,
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and you start, you know, getting the nerve to say, hey,
let's let's just run this play, like this is my
favorite play, Let's run it three times and just change
up the formation a little bit so I can get completions,
I can get into a rhythm.
Speaker 10 (44:58):
And I really do think it just takes.
Speaker 12 (45:00):
It takes about, you know, a half way point to
get that confidence and to get the feel and the
speed of the game.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
I look at demeanor of quarterbacks, certainly young quarterbacks, because
chances are they had a really successful college career.
Speaker 6 (45:15):
They're not used to, Hey, I just threw a pick six.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
Now I got to go back out like you show
me more after a pick six or an interception than
you do after a touchdown. I want to see how
you go back out there after doing something like that.
You know, I don't know how important that is for
you if you're looking at somebody's head is down or
they go out there and they're like, all right, come on,
let's go. That was one play, let's get it back.
Speaker 10 (45:39):
No, I think it's a good thing to look at.
Speaker 12 (45:41):
And also just you know, if they if they make
a bad play, they throw a bad interception that next series,
do they get a gunshot. Are they are they going
to come out and still you know, rip this this
skinny post on time, or are they going to be
like a little hesitant to go to the checkdown, a
little hesdant and not not you know, take their eyes
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down the field and said just you know, find my
completions instead of you know, hey, if something's open, I'm
still gonna rip this.
Speaker 10 (46:08):
I still got confidence I can make these throws.
Speaker 12 (46:10):
And so the you know, being being kind of cautious
is not a great thing, uh as an NFL quarterback
and usually leads to more mistakes. Now you're maybe not
throwing it to your first read who is open, but
it's a longer throw and you're going to check downs
versus man, which is not great, and you can lead
the more problems. So and it's something to look forward
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to and make sure they don't get conservative, they don't
get gun shy, and they still feel they can go
and and uh, you know, ball get the ball out
on Tom.
Speaker 2 (46:41):
Are you contractually obligated to say nice things about the
New York Giants play this year?
Speaker 12 (46:48):
I'm I'm not obligated to say nice things. I think
after Week one, just you know, understanding, I've been in
this situation. I've had a bad Week one before, I've
throw them three interceptions in Week one, We've had losses.
Speaker 10 (47:03):
We've started going too.
Speaker 12 (47:04):
And in the Super Bowl year we started going too
and I had to go down to Washington and down
at halftime and how to come back, when to get
on a little wind streak. I also know it can
change quickly. You can you can get your confidence bat,
you can get on a win streak. So that's what
I'm always optimistic and and I'm a fan of the Giants.
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I'm a fan of the coaches. I know him personally.
I see how hard they work. I'm a fan of
Daniel Jones and in this rooting form to do well
and I'm going to be optimistic in that.
Speaker 2 (47:36):
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Speaker 10 (47:51):
Us all right, Dan, thanks so much. A lot of fun.
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Speaker 2 (48:44):
We start with the Bills rolling the Dolphins. Now I'll
get to Tua and his injury in a moment. I
just want to focus on the game. This is a
sports show, the game itself. When Tua was healthy, the
Dolphins were getting rolled by Buffalo, and I know they'd
had their moments where they could have scored a touchdown
maybe to make it a ten point game. And then
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all of a sudden, they take out Tyreek Hill and
Jalen Waddell with eight minutes to go. Skyler Thompson comes
in and Buffalo goes there. And I said, this was
a must win, must ish win for the Dolphins perception wise,
win this game, even with a healthy Tua. He threw
a pick six, he had another interception that wasn't his fault,
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but did not look good. Tyreek Hill got shut down.
I mean, if I'm Buffalo, Josh Allen didn't have a
great game, but he didn't need to. James Cook was great,
and they were able to dominate the Miami Dolphins. So
if you said, Josh Allen is going to throw for
less than one hundred and fifty yards and he's going
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to rush for less than fifty yards and be like
and they won. Yes, And that was before you had
the injury to Tua. James Cook had three touchdow downs
there to a throws three interceptions and then he suffers
the concussion in the third quarter. Here was the call
on that play with to a tongue of Iloa.
Speaker 11 (50:11):
To out of the shotguns back to throw, looking pressure's
gonna run with it at the five eight yard behind
him it puts his head down and gets bounced down
at the.
Speaker 4 (50:20):
Sixth and he looks dig joe, oh boy.
Speaker 5 (50:24):
Then he had to run.
Speaker 6 (50:25):
He wasn't sure, so instead of sliding, once.
Speaker 5 (50:27):
He got there, he picked up a couple extra yards.
It's a great effort. But well this is uh, this
is not good.
Speaker 4 (50:33):
No, it's not is up walking slowly off the field.
Speaker 2 (50:38):
However, you knew it right away. But if you look
at the play, he lowers his head and he runs
into Damar Hamlin of all people, and Tua initiates the
contact there, but it's not a helmet to helmet And
then you know it's one of those situations where you go,
what's he thinking? But players they react, it's instinctive. Should
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he be out there running lowering his head? No, he
survived all last year, no concussions. Twenty twenty two. We
know what happened there. Now. If I go back to
the twenty twenty two NFL season, that was Week three,
Sunday one o'clock game when he was injured against the
Buffalo Bills. Clearly he had a concussion, clearly, but they
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said that it was his back. The official injury if
you go back and look at that, it says that
he suffered a back injury. The injury report was never
listed as a concussion. Okay, Four days later against the
Bengals Thursday night concussion and it's a nationally televised game.
Speaker 6 (51:47):
And then inactive for Week five and six.
Speaker 2 (51:50):
Then he's cleared, and then a day before the Week
six game, but he was held out of that game
as well. The day after the Week sixteen law to
the Packers. That's Christmas Day, National TV once again goes
into the concussion protocol. He had symptoms there. Two days later,
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Tua it's confirmed had a concussion and he was ruled
out of Week seventeen and eventually week eighteen, So that's
two concussions. He wasn't clear to return to practice since
entering the concussion protocol for the Dolphins in the wild
card playoff matchup. He was held out of that as well,
and that was the dolphins last game of the year. Now,
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you say, okay, that's three concussions. To me, it's four concussions.
And I know this gets tricky. Even last night, and
the first thing I thought of when I saw Tua
walk off the field. As strange as this is going
to sound, but this is what I thought. Heinz Ward
told me when the Steelers played the Ravens, he went
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across the field and he got his bell rung. He
knew that he was concussed. He gets to his feet,
eat and he started limping. He said he thought that
if he could limp, maybe they would not rule him
out with a concussion. When two is coming off the field,
he starts limping, and I'm wondering if in that moment
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he's thinking, how do I stay in the game. They
didn't even take him to the blue tent. They took
him to the locker room, and that's when I realized
that this was going to be serious again. I know
that he took jiu jitsu, he was learning how to fall,
and as I've said before, you can learn how to fall,
But that doesn't mean the person tackling you is going
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to help.
Speaker 6 (53:35):
You with you learning how to fall. And last year
went well.
Speaker 2 (53:40):
But also if you look at the Dolphins offense, it's
predicated on to a not being back seven yards. It's quick.
That's why you got two of the fastest receivers in football.
If you're going to go eighty yards with a touchdown
pass from Tua, chances are he threw it fifteen yards
and then you took it sixty five. It's it's a
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timing aspect there. And they were not on the same
page last night. You know, Kirk Kurbstreet was saying that.
Herbie said, you know, something's wrong here. They were not
in synchronicity and it's all about timing there. And now
you have Skyler Thompson the backup quarterback. That's not the
style that he plays. And you know, I did think
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about that as well. Where I'm going, Okay, you know
you have somebody who has at least had a couple
of concussions. Yes you did, giving that big contract. Everybody's
holding their breath. But if something happens like this could
be to his last game this year, and it could
put an end to the Dolphins trying to be a
playoff team this year. I mean, that's the harsh reality
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of this. And then we're going to talk to Mike
Florio next hour about salary cap ramifications. And look, I'm
trying to be as sensitive as possible, but my job
is still to look at this through the lens of sports.
The team salary quarterbacks who could be available. Yes, do
I like to meet his family at the super Bowl
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in Miami? Yes, always been friendly to us. I hope
the best for him. I'm not here to say he
should retire. But here's the tricky part with this. If
he is medically cleared and he decides he doesn't want
to play, there's a chance that all that guaranteed money
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will not be guaranteed. So imagine if you're the doctor
who's going to either clear him or not clear him.
If he decides, you know what, I want to have
a long life here and I'm not going to play.
Or if he is cleared, then and you're more susceptible
to concussions after you've had a concussion. But this is
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what we've talked about, even when he got the big contract.
Like I'm like, I wouldn't have given him the contract
because of this. It would make me and I know
he played so well last year and the last person
who should be lowering his head and taking on contact
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he initiated contact is toua and that's why do the
best you can. But you can't really protect a player
from himself. Instinctively, he's trying to get a first down there,
and it was sad because you want to see these
players be great. He is a great story. You know,
the injury suffered in college. You know, the Dolphins took
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a big chance on him, they passed on other quarterbacks.
Then you get Mike McDaniel coming in. He brings in
his offense. They're explosive, they're exciting, Tyreek kill Jalen Wonnell OBJ,
They're ready to go, and then this happens and it's sad.
Speaker 6 (56:50):
It really was.
Speaker 2 (56:51):
It was sad to watch it last night. Here is
Mike McDaniel, the Dolphins head coach, on to his injury.
Speaker 4 (56:59):
I think it's important to.
Speaker 8 (57:02):
Approach each and every situation to the you know, much
like approach every injury with it, which is basically, all right,
we're going to handle this particular situation with this particular player.
You know, every situation is unique to its own, So
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you know, I think I think there's for me. I'm
not worried about anything that's out of my hands in
terms of I'm just worried about the human being. And
you know, he'll he'll drive the drive the ship when
we get the appropriate information.
Speaker 6 (57:42):
But it's day by day health. He's clearly shook. You
can hear he's struggling to find the words.
Speaker 4 (57:50):
What do you say?
Speaker 2 (57:51):
How do you spin this in a positive way? But
you know, the Dolphins are going to have to have
football decisions to make, and here we are, it's week two.
Tua with the help of family friends, a doctor is
going to have to have a decision to make football
wise as well.
Speaker 6 (58:13):
His future.
Speaker 2 (58:14):
And I know there are a lot of people on
social media said he should retire. I said that before,
But you know, I'm not the one out there. He's
the one who probably thinks, you know, I can still
make this work. It's all it takes is one play,
one moment, And it didn't seem like it was going
to be something that led to this. He initiated the contact,
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he lowered his helmet, He didn't connect with DeMar Hamlin's helmet.
He initiated this went to the ground, and I mean
he ran into DeMar Hamlin's shoulder, his bicep, and as
soon as he lowered his head, I go, oh, like
I didn't think he would be concussed, But I'm like,
what is He shouldn't be lowering his head And then
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he's down and then his teammates knew exactly what was
going on, and then they surrounded him. So the cameras
or people in the audience in the stadium wouldn't know
what's going on. But when you see whether hands and
arms are stiff, I mean it's scary. That is scary,
and everybody you know we're trying to perfect the helmet.
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The helmet doesn't protect the brain. It protects the skull.
It doesn't protect the brain. But to a I don't
know what the timeline would be with anything, and I
don't even want to speculate with that. I just want
to deal with what is the football aspect of this.
We all want to it to be healthy. We hope
(59:42):
that he gets to play again. But my job is
also to look at what the bottom line is here?
What do the Dolphins do?
Speaker 5 (59:48):
Now?
Speaker 6 (59:48):
Do they bring in, bring back Ryan Tannehill.
Speaker 2 (59:51):
Can you get somebody who plays a similar style to
Tua because that's what the offense is built around. To
Skyler Tom, they didn't look like they had confidence in
him to run that offense. Even when they get down
inside the five, they were running the football.
Speaker 6 (01:00:08):
They weren't going to let him pass. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
If you reach out to the Rams, Jimmy Garoppolo has
been suspended to you say hey, you know, we'll give
you whatever I mean. You guys are ready to go now.
This team is ready to go now. You got the Jets,
you got the Bills. You know, the Patriots might be
a little more competitive. But prior to the trade deadline,
can you go out there and get somebody in sound
at your season? Is too going to be able to
(01:00:34):
come back? Do the Dolphins want him to come back?
Does he want to come back? So there's a lot
of things in play here other than it is a
concussion and it's a nationally televised game. I can't over
emphasize that enough.
Speaker 6 (01:00:50):
When we see it.
Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
If this is a one o'clock game, it resonates differently
with people. You're watching it, and everybody has you know,
some kind of opinion on this, former players saying he
should retire. Let's get the medical diagnosis. Now you get
your bell rung. This isn't his third concussion or fourth concussion.
(01:01:13):
Chances are he's had numerous concussions. It used to be
when I was growing up, my brothers would play football
and they would get their bell rung. That's like, oh,
got your bell rung. Yeah, we'll get back out there.
But they were suffering concussions.
Speaker 6 (01:01:30):
We just kind of softened it a little bit. You
got your bell rung. Okay, who would we have?
Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
Troy Polamalu, I said, how many concussions he goes? I'll
tell you when I'm done playing football, But he said,
I think he got his bell rung over.
Speaker 6 (01:01:49):
One hundred times.
Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
Just do the math with this, and if your tua,
his family, those around him, it's a lot of money.
But you want to live. You want to live a
life because do you know what happens. I don't know
how many people are checking on Jack Lambert today the
way he played for the Steelers, or Mike Singletary the
(01:02:14):
way he play. Like these players play, they give everything
and then they go and then we move on from
them like Bob Sanders, the way he played for the Colts. See,
that's what would worry me, because we just kind of
chew you up, spit you out. Another guy comes in
and we move on, and then all of a sudden
we see Earl Campbell in a wheelchair and we go.
Speaker 6 (01:02:35):
You look at Earl Campbell. But when he was playing,
we loved it. Love You Blue,
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