January 18, 2025 • 39 mins
Dan thinks Tom Brady broadcasting the Lions game this weekend is a huge conflict of interest considering their Offensive Coordinator is a candidate for the Raiders head coaching vacancy, the same Raiders that Brady is a minority owner of. Dallas Cowboys’ insider Ed Werder discusses the possibility of Jerry Jones eyeing Deion Sanders as their next head coach. Dan and the guys preview the weekend in the NFL playoffs. Plus, could Aaron Rodgers be headed to the Raiders?!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
All's quiet or all is quiet on the coaching front,
at least so far, and you have the possibility of
Mike McCarthy interviewing with the Bears today, and then you
have some of these other coaches who are still in
the postseason who aren't afforded that luxury. Now, the Dallas
Cowboys with Dion Sanders, that's going to get a lot
(00:25):
of run. That's going to play out until Dallas hires
a coach. I don't think it's going to be Dion.
I think Jerry Jones did Diona solid. Dion is in
negotiations for a contract extension at Colorado. He would normally
be getting that, but if there's the possibility of the
Raiders or the Cowboys, maybe he's able to make some
(00:46):
more money there. Because if you listen or read what
Dion had to say about his conversation with Jerry Jones,
he sort of implied inferred that he was offered the job. Hey,
you know, humbled by this and I got unfinished business
at Colorado. I don't think there was an offer here.
(01:06):
It wasn't reported as an offer. Dion kind of took
it and said basically, yeah, I'm not going to take
this job right now. I got unfinished business. Wait a minute,
I didn't offer the job to you. Now, maybe gets
around to doing that, because you know, normally when you
fire somebody, we always at least think the owner has
an idea who he's going to bring in. I truly
(01:29):
believe that the Craft family with the Patriots knew they
were bringing in Mike Brabel, and probably knew that in December.
They probably knew that a month ago where it's like
this is not working out. They would have brought in
Mike Brabel if they weren't already contractually binded with girod
Mayo because they wrote it into his contract that he
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would be the successor to Bill Belichick. Then I think
they quickly realized he was not ready to be a
head coach. And it goes back to what I've said
many many times, not every great coordinator, good coordinator, deserves
to be a head coach. Ben Johnson is the object
of desire right now. I don't know what he's like.
(02:11):
I've never heard him interviewed. I don't know what it's
like when you're up there and you're answering questions, you
just lost a tough game. I don't know what kind
of culture is he able to be around Dan Campbell
and go I'm gonna have that same culture wherever I go.
I don't know. Is he gonna go to the Raiders?
How does that go with Tom Brady's game this weekend?
(02:35):
He's got that game, He's got the Lions game of
the Commanders. What happens if they show Ben Johnson on
the sideline? Is Tom Brady, minority owner of the Raiders,
allowed to talk about Ben Johnson? Does he have any
inside info? Which I would believe he would. I like
how the NFL makes it seem like this isn't a
(02:56):
conflict of interest. Seaton brought up something this morning, But
imagine if Jerry Jones was going to be the analyst
for a game. He love that and he's looking for
a head coach. Is there a conflict of interest there?
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Yes, Eton, Yeah, I mean, like, could you imagine Robert
Kraft immediately like, well, you know here, Drodmeo really not
getting it done. I think we're going to fire him
at the end of the game, and that means we're
open for business.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
But the NFL, you know, the NFL is bending over
backwards to help Tom. It feels like or looking the
other way. Conflict of interest, that is what it is.
And then you go back in the way back machine
to how they went after Tom, like you know, they
were going after him in a big time, big way,
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like they were investigating him. Then this is like, you know,
he's with Fox, he's going to be calling the super Bowl.
Let's play nice, probably his last year as a broadcaster.
No conflict of interest here, yes, Eton, I love like.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
This is so actually blatant conflict of interest that's right
in our faces.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
That makes me wonder what are the other conflicts of.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Interest that they're also like, Ah, don't worry about that,
that's no big deal. Don't worry about it because this
one is right in our faces. Everybody could see it.
There's probably a million more that are behind the scenes,
like I just wink at that. Don't worry about that.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
That's fine.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
What about if it's a blowout. Let's say the lines
are up like twenty one with I don't seven minutes
to go. You got to fill a little time, and
all of a sudden, you're gonna go, uh, well, Ben
Johnson's gonna get a job Tom somewhere. Yeah, he certainly
seems like a good candidate to me.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
Anymore on that, Tom.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
No, that's all I have.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Raiders are looking to hire a new coach sometime before
the draft.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
That they wait, Is that your Tom Brady?
Speaker 3 (04:47):
All of a sudden, he's got a hardcore accent where
he talks about you know, the podcast for the I
was talking about the draft on the podcast.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
WHOA what dude?
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Where did that accent come from?
Speaker 2 (05:00):
I now, now I'm going to be listening for that.
Speaker 6 (05:04):
Yes, Todd or Brady goes the other way and pretends
he's not interested. It's like I Ben. Everybody's on this
Ben Johnson bandwagon. I don't know. When everyone doesn't reson,
then he swoops in at the last minute when everyone
thinks that the Raiders aren't.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Interested, it's the Ben wagon. I think it's I'm on
the Ben wagon here? Yeah? Does he go out of
his way to say, yeah, I don't know, I don't
get it, you know, all right, gimme keep plays. I
don't know if that works consistent.
Speaker 6 (05:30):
Some are just coordinators. They're not necessarily going to make
great head coaches.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
So I don't know, yes, yes, or Brady goes the
other way.
Speaker 5 (05:36):
Sam Laporta catches like a pass on the I cannot
wait to see him dial that up for Powers next year.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
I can't wait.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
Like he just puts it all out there.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Yeah yeah, uh so that's no conflict of interest there
with that game coming up this weekend with the Lions
and the Commanders. See, now you're going to listen. Now
we're going to read into how many times do you
listen to a game where you're gonna be eating into
maybe an ulterior motive. Troy Aikman came out after what
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the last game that he and Joe did and said
something about the Cowboys job not being a good job
or desirable. But Troy is not part of the Cowboys,
or he's not part of another organization ripping the Cowboys.
Tom Is he's got his fingerprints all over this. He's
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going to be making these changes, He's making these decisions,
but he's also going to be broadcasting a game where
maybe the number one candidate for the head coaching vacancies
is going to be coaching eight seven seven three DP
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DraftKings odds. These are the best super match up odds.
It's overwhelming that they think it'll be the Chiefs and
the Lions. Then it's the Chiefs and the Eagles, Ravens Lions.
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So Chiefs and Lions plus three seventy Chiefs Eagles and
the Ravens Lions plus five hundred, and then they have
the Bills and the Lions plus five point fifty. So
they're not factoring in the Commanders or the Rams in
this situation. And if you're betting, the best odds, according
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to Vegas, will be the Chiefs and the Lions meeting
in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
Yes, Paul, So as of today, Vegas likes the Eagles
more than the Lions.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
They no, No, they have the Lions against the Chiefs. Oh,
and then that's the Chiefs against Yeah, they have the
Chiefs against the Eagles, got it. And then they have
the raven No, they really like the Lions because they've
got them facing the Chiefs and facing the Ravens and
facing the Bills. So if I'm going to plan this,
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the Bills versus the Lions would be where I would go.
Somebody's winning a super Bowl here? Yeah? Is that how
they sell it? And welcome to the super Bowl. Somebody
has to win this game these and can you imagine
the pain for one of these fan bases if Buffalo
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plays Detroit? Which fan base would hurt more if they
lost this Super Bowl? Oh boy, I'm skewing negative eleven
minutes in Dang. I started out great with Strawberry Quick,
then I went to Brady conflict of interest, and now
I'm talking about pain misery for a fan base.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
Yes, Paul, I think this is a good question. And
my instant reaction was the Bills would have more pain.
They've been expecting to get a Super Bowl for the
past five years. They finally get there. They had the
for four stretch. Lions never even had that stretch, and
then you lose to the team that's never been there.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
But considering this is recency bias from you just lost
in dramatic fashion last year for you're the Lions. So
it's not like the Buffalo Bills back in the nineties
when they're losing super Bowls. It's this is the Lions
team that's supposed to win the Super Bowl? Are we
they're the favorites?
Speaker 5 (09:25):
Are we instituting the pain meter as of today?
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Sure? Yeah, Seaton, what's the pole question? I don't know.
Do we want to start out with which fan base
would suffer more? In a No, I can't do that.
I can't do that today because that's what we're doing.
By the way, if you're going to be in New
Orleans for the Super Bowl February fifth, at seven pm
(09:50):
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Dan Interviews Dan, and we'll be there for ninety minutes,
having a conversation, take questions, and saying hello to people.
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information on the tickets can be found at danpatrick dot
com and across our social media platforms. Is that the
(10:12):
pole question we're going with?
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Seed, It's definitely one of them.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Wow, that's for sure.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Which fan base would suffer more if they lost to
the Super Bowl? Buffalo Bill's Detroit Lions.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
That is a lot of fun we.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Can also put up there. Tom Brady being an NFL
broadcaster and owner. Is a massive conflict of interest or
no big deal?
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Well, let's go round the room here, because I want
to be fair to the topic here, Todd, do you
think it's a conflict of interest that Brady is a
minority owner while calling games?
Speaker 6 (10:45):
I think it's a conflict of interest. But if the
phrase is massive conflict of interest, I would lean the
other way. I think it's a conflict of interest. I
don't think it's a massive conflict.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
With Okay Seaton, Uh, okay, maybe we'll take out massive.
Then I would say it is a massive conflict of interest. Okay, then,
especially more like the more that it's not exactly a
new story, but the more that it sits with me,
and the more that everybody's just kicking around head coaching
candidates and all this stuff, and you're like, you got
(11:14):
this dude doing kid, This is crazy. How in the
world could you allow that to happen?
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Marvin, conflict of interest?
Speaker 7 (11:21):
As much as I love minority owner in the NFL, now,
conflict of interest?
Speaker 2 (11:27):
No, it is oh okay, okay, Pauly, conflict of interest.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
It's the definition of conflict of interest. It's direct. It's
not even like a layer removed. And what's worse is
the NFL gave Tom special treatment to make it happen.
They let him become a broadcaster and approved him becoming
an owner, which they did not have to do in
any way.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Yeah, it's like I they could have kept him in
the on deck circle before, you know. But I don't
think the NFL wants him to get out out of
the broadcasting booth. I think that they want him there.
I think Fox of course wants him there, and he's
going to be doing the Super Bowl. But as I've
said for the last couple of months, it feels like
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he's moving on to something else and maybe he's won
and done doing these games and he gets to do
a Super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
Yes, Paul, it's kind of like what Seton said, almost
jokingly about Jerry Jones. Would they make him a broadcaster?
If I were an NBA broadcast team, I would consider
hiring someone like Mark Cuban to be on my staff.
But the conflict would be he owns the Mavericks and
you couldn't. But he's a star, he's a good guy,
he talks well. If I'm ana, can an NBA do this?
I don't think they could well.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
I think he's now a minority owner with the Mavericks,
so it would be identical if he was doing games.
I think Mark sold a good portion of the Dallas Mavericks.
I think so.
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Speaker 2 (14:01):
I saw a tweet from ed Werder and of course
always reading Ed Werders tweets, and had something to do
with the Cowboys. Ed is a Cowboy insider for w
FAA TV in Dallas, had to do with Dion, had
to do with Jerry Jones, and maybe maybe this is
actually in the on deck circling could happen and ed
(14:23):
warder kind of enough to join us. So you piqued
my interest with this, So explain what your tweet was
all about.
Speaker 10 (14:30):
That was my one and only interest in tweeting Dan
was to get your attention, thank you, and to have
an opportunity to make a long awaited guest appearance on
the show. If you want to play golf again, let
me know. Yeah, so I've I've been obviously following the
Cowboys you know for a long time, but you know,
certainly throughout this season and extending that coverage through the
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dismissal of Mike McCarthy, which I think surprised a lot
of people, even those of us who covered the team
on a regular basis. And you know, when you start
configuring a list of potential candidates to be the next
head coach, only in Dallas do you have to make
sure to include Dion Sanders and Jason Witten former you know,
(15:17):
Cowboys tight end great who Jerry is enamored with, who
has only coached at the high school level. Regarding Dion,
obviously we know that he has not yet formally interviewed
for the job. The Cowboys have extended invitations to Leslie
Frazier and Robert Salah to be the first two to
interview formerly for the job. But Dion told Adam Schefter
(15:41):
the other day that Jerry Jones reached out to him
and they discussed the job, and everything I continue to
be told Dan is that Jerry is interested. It was
described to me as he's enamored with the idea. Obviously,
it's hard to imagine any coaching candidate who could create
(16:03):
more interest someone that Jerry could more sell to the
fan base here which needs to happen, and make Jerry
more money than Dion Sanders. I mean, he won a
Super Bowl here as a player. So there are also
people around Dion who tell me that he's being urged
by his supporters in Colorado to take the job, and
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that they believe if Jerry ever does offer him the job,
that he will take. That he has an extension to
remain at Colorado on his desk that he hasn't even
looked at as he considers these other possibilities. But you know,
I mean, there are also people close to Dion who
tell me they don't see it happening, but they've seen
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things happen with Jerry Jones that they didn't expect to
happen before. And he did hire Barry Switzer, So you
can't rule anything out. He's the most unpredictable owner in
the NFL on any subject, especially this one.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
But do you think that Jerry Jones had somebody in
mind when he was willing to let Mike McCarthy leave.
Speaker 10 (17:07):
I assume that Jerry's done this enough times. This is
his eighth time that he knows before you let somebody
who has some value. It has proven himself to the degree,
you know, Mike McCarthy has as a head coach in
this league with two different franchises that you're sure you're
going to get somebody who you think is going to
do a better job.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Yeah, I man for some reason. And I was talking
to Tim Callishaw, of course he covers the Cowboys, and
he said Dion was treating this as if he was
offered the job.
Speaker 10 (17:41):
Like.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
His response was, Hey, I'm honored or humboled or whatever,
but I got work to do as if he was
getting the job offer. And then I thought, well, maybe
is Jerry doing Dion a favor by Hey, maybe we
have some interest here and that helps him even more
with that extension at Colorado. But you think this is real,
(18:01):
This is something that could happen.
Speaker 10 (18:04):
I think it has merit, and I think when we're
talking about Jerry and Dion, you always have to be
wary of how this conversation could benefit each of them,
and it certainly does. But I think there is a
possibility of it happening. I mean, Dion apparently told Adam
Schefter that he doesn't need to use the Cowboys's leverage
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to get what he wants at Colorado that he's him
and there's probably a lot of truth in that, given
the effect he's had on that program and the attention
he's brought to it and the money that's been dedicated
to the program since then. But yeah, and I think
a key figure if this were to go very far,
would be Mike Zimmer. You know, Mike Zimmer was a
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defensive coordinator here this most recent season under Mike McCarthy,
coached under five head coaches in Dallas, and he has
not decided what he's going to do in terms of
whether he wants to continue coaching or not. I think
a lot of that is dependent upon what direction Jerry
decides to go and hiring the next head coach.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
And he would.
Speaker 10 (19:07):
Certainly, almost certainly Dan be a part of it if
Dion Sanders is the coach, because Mike is very close
to Dion. He coached him when he was here. He
was close, so close to his program at Jackson State
and then at Colorado that there were people speculating that
Zimmer was going to be the defensive coordinator of Colorado.
That never happened, but Zimmer made it clear during the
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season when we spoke to him that he does frequently
still speak to Deon Sanders, so I'm sure he would
be heavily involved in that. And it's interesting that he
has made no mention or or offered no decision on
his future.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Okay, but we've talked about Jerry and he hires coaches
that are submissive and malleable, and that's not Dion. So
is Jerry finally maybe coming around to that I need
to have somebody be a head coach, act like a
head coach and not be looking over their shoulder constantly.
Speaker 10 (20:01):
Well, do you think that Jerry would think that there's
not room for him to influence Dion Sanders, who's never
coached at the NFL level, on how he views his
best route to being successful. I think Jerry would see
this as a very a very positive opportunity for him
(20:21):
to influence the way Dion Sanders coaches Jerry's football team. Now,
was interesting that during the season, when Jerry was first
asked about Dion, you know, he praised him as one
of his favorite players of all time, and you know
his competitiveness that he brought to the team, but he
also sort of dismissed his value as a head coach
in the NFL, because he said, what Dion offers now,
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that's most attractive and most influences his success at CU
at the college level is his ability to recruit, and
that's not going to be a significant part of his
success in the NFL should he opt to coach in
the NFL.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
And that's true.
Speaker 10 (21:01):
I mean, he could influence free agents, but the Cowboys
have not been heavily involved in free agency in recent years,
to their own detriment. Quite honestly, you know, they were
the last team to sign a player four out of
the last five years. So it was interesting to me
that Jerry thought that was the most unique ability Dion
possessed and that it would not be a significant factor
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in whether he succeeded at the NFL level.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Did Mike McCarthy want out?
Speaker 10 (21:31):
That's not the sense I got. I mean, when the
season ended, he was unequivocal and very public about the
fact that his goal in the next few days was to.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Remain in Dallas.
Speaker 10 (21:43):
He said he had made an investment in Dallas, the
Cowboys had made an investment in him. I think his
family wanted to be here. I sincerely think Mike McCarthy
wanted and expected it to work out, and I don't
know that we fully understand the real reasons.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
It did. Great to talk to you always, Ed, Thank you. Thanks.
An Ed Werder covers The Cowboys for WFAA TV in Dallas.
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Made it to a Friday, Dan and the Danauts Dan
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without the e man Cave and the recipe. The menu
today certainly bears that out. Fritzy probably not going to
be happy with all of this burger and waffle fries.
That's it. As Tyler said, he didn't want to waste
(22:41):
a good meat Friday on just the Dan Etts if
I wasn't going to be in studio. So that's who
has it better than we do, Noney buddy, this is fun.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
We're calling it the Winter Burger Festival. Burgers and beers
outside in the cold, burgers.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
And waffle on the menu. Here for a meet Friday,
all right, come on in, stay a while, we'll talk
to Jason Garrett, former Cowboys head coach David Carr, NFL
network analyst Mike Florio. We'll stop by as well. Operator
Tyler is sitting by. He'll take your phone calls throughout
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free estimate today, Oh better get make up play the day,
poll question stat of the day, all of that forthcoming.
The point spreads as of this morning, according to DraftKings,
I've got the Texans getting eight and a half, the
Commanders getting eight and a half, the Rams are getting six,
and the Bills at home are getting one and a half. Fritzi,
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it's Friday, Fritzy. He's got a few pole question suggestions
seat and will also fill in some of the gray
area there with some of his own. Well. Recap the
big basketball game last night. You probably didn't watch it.
But the Oklahoma City Thunder now thirty four and six,
they rough up the Cavaliers as they win by twenty
and trying to make somebody a star in a city
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that doesn't make stars or a game that probably doesn't
bear itself out and highlights on the Mothership. That's Shay
Gilgis Alexander. You'd have to work on the name, the
game and the fact that he's in Oklahoma City, but
I think all signs are leading to him being the
MVP this year. Might be a little MVP voter fatigue
(24:48):
with the Joker, but Shay Gilgis is averaging over thirty
a game. He had over forty last night against the Cavaliers.
We'll talk about that coming up. And he was second.
He finished runner up to Joker last year, so it's
not going to be a big surprise, but we'll talk
about that. You're trying or it feels like there's analysts
trying to let you know, watch him play. It's just
(25:10):
he's not a highlight machine. He's just extremely economically great.
It just he goes out there and he'll give you
forty points. I think he's done that six times so
far this season, all Righty, Todd, I'm going to start
with you. You have a few Friday Fritzy Poll.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
Questions Texans Aside, if the Lions reached the Super Bowl,
who should they want to play? That would be the Bills,
Chiefs or Ravens. Who should the Lions want to play
if they're fortunate enough to reach the Super Bowl?
Speaker 2 (25:42):
I think it's weird to say the obvious answer would
be the Kansas City Chiefs because they feel vulnerable at
fifteen and two. I want no part of Patrick Mahomes
in a big game. I don't. I don't been down
that road too many times. No, not gonna do you
give me. Lamar Jackson maybe one of the greatest seasons
(26:03):
ever by a quarterback, and Josh Allen is probably going
to be the runner up to him for MVP. I'll
take my chances because those guys haven't been in this
situation before. It's the same thing with Tom Brady. I
don't know how many years he wasn't the best quarterback
in the league. But if you said you got to
win one game or you had a game winning drive
(26:23):
and you gave him the football or anybody else, you said,
I'll take him. And that's what Mahomes is. Mahomes is
not a stat machine. He hasn't been. They've changed the
whole complexion of this team. It's a defensive team. They
do run the football. Travis Kelcey has regressed a little
bit the last couple of years. During the regular season.
He's another guy where you go, Man, I don't know.
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It seems to be slowing down a little bit, and
it'll be like seven catches for ninety yards. And with Mahomes, somehow,
some way, you can't game plan for third and fifteen
and he gets out of the pocket dances down the
sidelines for sixteen. So I would say, I'll take my
chances with Buffalo or the Texans or the Baltimore Ravens,
(27:11):
anybody taking Kansas City that the Lions would want to
face O Todd, Okay, and.
Speaker 6 (27:16):
It'll be extra special to keep them from the three peats.
I think the Chiefs, to me, I understand your point,
which are all valid, are a little less scary than
Lamar and Josh and those two teams.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Okay. But if I said the Broncos were in the
AFC title game and you could face the Ravens, Bills
are Chiefs who were you taking.
Speaker 6 (27:35):
Based on what happened in the regular season. They got
destroyed forty one to ten against the Ravens. The Bills
just destroyed the Broncos. Denver almost beat the Chiefs in
Kansas City on a block field goal, and then they
let them be done thirty eight to nothing. I'm gonna
say I would take the Chiefs.
Speaker 7 (27:51):
They know us.
Speaker 6 (27:52):
But we know them. We played them twice a year,
and I just think the Chiefs are ripe for the taking,
as if Bills and Ravens scamming more than the Chiefs,
even with all the experience in seeing.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
What about you?
Speaker 4 (28:01):
Yeah, we us let's go.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Yeah Yeah. I feel like the Chiefs are actually the
last team that I want I would want to face,
and probably for all of the reasons you just mentioned
actually going for the three p They're completely unpredictable. I
feel like you can game plan for a lot of
different things, but you really can't game plan for that.
You know, fourth and seventeen, You've got Patrick Mahomes exactly
(28:24):
where you want to be scrambling, he jumps out of
bounds and somehow throws a thirty seven yard dart to
a wide open Kelsey. And this year like, what the hell,
we just had him sacked, We just had them on
fourth down.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
You know, you can't really game plan for that, But.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
You would also look at that game planning that Josh
Allen is capable of those crazy plays and Lamar Jackson
capable of those plays. I've just seen it when the
game is on the line and it's time to pucker
and Mahomes is awesome.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Yes, right, those guys are all capable of those things.
But Patrick Mahomes does them regularly, and right, those other
two quarterbacks they have more of a history of.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
Puckering. As you'd say that, they just makes them less scary.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
Yeah, Paulie, I'm with you. I want no part of
the Chiefs. The Chiefs have been ripe for the taking
for three straight years. It seems like every week they're down,
every game they're down. How many playoff games have they
been down? If I were a Lions fan going into
the fourth quart of the Super Bowl up two touchdowns
on the Chiefs, I'd be like, oh no, oh.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
My, it would never be caught it. He's got us
just where he wants us, right, you know, never comfortable.
Dang it, dang it, we're only up two touchdowns going
into the fourth quarter. But the Ravens in Buffalo and
the Ravens favored on the road by one and a half.
You know, you start to look at these and I
always go, what's Vegas want me to do? Is Vegas saying,
(29:50):
you know what, you got to take the bills. They're
getting one and a half at a home. That's what
they're saying to you. And then you look at these
numbers with the Commanders and the Lions eight and a half,
Texans Chiefs eight and a half. It feels and this
isn't fair to the Texans. I'll say that up front,
like the Commanders are capable, might be more capable of
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beating the Lions in Detroit than the Texans beating the
Chiefs in Kansas City. And maybe that's you know, just
the perception of or the lack of respect the Texans get,
but eight and a half for both of these teams
on the road. And then the Rams and the Eagles
six point game. And I started to look at some
of the prop bets. Here if I said, over under
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rushing yard Saquon Barkley against the Rams, Marvin, you got
a guess here, seventy five and a half all right,
Seaton eighty two, Paul eighty nine and a half.
Speaker 6 (30:51):
Todd I'm going to say ninety four and a half.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
One twelve and a half.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
That's aggressive, no respect.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
That surprised me a little bit there. Yeah, yeah, uh.
They expect Josh Allen to have more passing yards than
Lamar Jackson. How about Derrick Henry over under rushing yards
Ravens Bills.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Paul.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Ninety six and a half, Marvin.
Speaker 7 (31:20):
Eighty eight, Todd ninety and a half.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
Seaton two hundred and twenty seven and one a half.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Ninety seven and a half, PAULI had ninety six and
a half. Yes, Patrick Mahomes passing yards against the Texans,
Paul kind of low.
Speaker 5 (31:44):
I'm gonna go to twenty nine and a half, all right, Marvin.
Speaker 6 (31:51):
Two forty eight and a half Todd, Well, I kind
of split the difference there to thirty seven and a
half between those two gun.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
All right, Seaton, no connor, I'm gonna this is a
bad guest, But to twenty seven and a half.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
To twenty seven and a half is CJ. Strouds over.
Speaker 7 (32:09):
Gotta give him love for that.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Patrick Mahomes is two fifty and a half. Just some
of the random things here. Yeah, they got Josh Allen
two forty eight and a half, Lamar Jackson to twenty
four and a half, but uh and Pukainakua. They expect
him to have a really good game over under his
eighty eight and a half yards in that matchup. All right,
(32:33):
eight seven seven three, DP Show email address Dpatdanpatrick dot com,
Twitter handle at DP show once again, David Carr from
NFL Network. A little later on, we'll have the most
must win game of the weekend. Got her play of
the day coming up. Kind of a quiet last couple
of days with the coaching moves. Aaron Rodgers talks about
talking to the Jets, but Vegas has a new team,
(32:57):
a new place that Aaron Rodgers, if he decides to
play next year, that that would be the place that
he would be going to. Paulie, I'll start with you.
Vegas thinks that if Aaron Rodgers plays again, you know what,
let me play. Aaron Rodgers on McAfee's show talking with
the Jets, I.
Speaker 11 (33:17):
Gave some constructive things. It's there's so much that goes
into the whole thing. There's there's the food path, there's
the locker room. There's travel, there's hotel stuff, there's different
you know, you're just giving a little constructive things here
and there that maybe they take the heart, maybe they don't.
I think everybody understands that it's going to come down
to a GM and a coach and myself and whether
(33:39):
we all want to do a dance together or if
it's it's not in the cards, Okay.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Do a little dance, make a little love get down tonight,
down tonight. Figured that'd be right.
Speaker 6 (33:57):
Set me up lovely, even though you didn't mean to do.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
You know who sing sings that?
Speaker 5 (34:02):
Not?
Speaker 6 (34:02):
Sure?
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Casey? Okay, the Sunshine tod do you want?
Speaker 7 (34:11):
That's not them?
Speaker 2 (34:12):
It's not them, that's the Bay City Rollers. Wow, come on,
let's go, Come on, come on, how can I fail
that the months questions? Don't mail it in just because
it's Friday. Let's go. I got to pick it up
every day. Is the Super Bowl all right? Here? It
(34:33):
is Vegas. Is the place that Vegas thinks that Aaron
Rodgers is going to go. Yeah, the Raiders are the
favorites for Aaron Rodgers. And uh I was a little
bit surprised. Well, we brought this up here can you
get him to come in as your bridge quarterback? Would
Tom Brady entertain that as the new owner of the Raiders? Man,
(35:02):
unless I thought my team could be good and compete,
you know. I mean, you're in a division where the Broncos, Chargers,
and Chiefs all made the playoffs. So is Aaron Rodgers
going to help me with anything other than attendance? And
you're already a tourist attraction. Now you don't have a
home field advantage. But do I want Aaron Rodgers or
(35:24):
do I bring in somebody else and go? Can I
get through this next season and then maybe we start
to build this into a champion again? Yes, Paul.
Speaker 5 (35:34):
Lifestyle wise, it makes a ton of sense for Aaron Rodgers.
He could live out by pow Rump or Area fifty
one or what do they get a double wide out there?
What a satellite dish? He'd be perfect lifestyle wise.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Okay, anybody else have thought?
Speaker 7 (35:47):
Now?
Speaker 2 (35:48):
I thought maybe Pittsburgh, But he just doesn't fit in
with what Pittsburgh's whole philosophy is. I can't see that happening.
I mean, Russ didn't really fit in. I mean he tried,
but I just can't imagine Aaron being on McAfee talking
about whatever he's talking about, and then all of a sudden,
(36:09):
Mike Tomlin's got to go to the press conference say hey,
Aaron said the following on Pat McAfee. That feels like
that would get really old, really quick for Tomlin.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
Yes, I think it's got to be someplace that we
don't expect. They were like, hey, that makes a lot
of sense. I don't think it's going to be one
of those wow, that makes a lot of sense places
at all. Like it it's gonna be like New Orleans
or something where you're.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
Like, Okay, yeah, I could it's out of nowhere.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Him and DeVante Adams and two more of his buddies
are going to be like, why don't we just go
all land at the Saints.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Right now feels like it'll be Tennessee or the Raiders
if I was guessing, I have no information on that
other than just what I could see maybe one year
with the Raiders, but they're just not ready to win,
So why do I want to do that? Why do
I want to spend that money? It almost feels like
(37:02):
you take a step back before you take two steps forward,
and it doesn't mean he can't play a high I
mean his numbers were really good with the Jets, where
that's where stats are deceiving. Where you go, man? All right?
Not bad. The thing that I would want to look
at is his fourth quarter numbers, because that's the quarterback
I want. That's what I need. These games are all
decided by seven points or less. What did your quarterback
(37:25):
do when the game was on the line, Yes, Todd.
Speaker 6 (37:29):
Along with your thoughts on the Titans in a winnable
AFC South, would the Colts.
Speaker 7 (37:33):
Take a shot with him for a year?
Speaker 1 (37:35):
They were in the.
Speaker 6 (37:35):
Playoff picture up until towards the very end there, Week sixteen,
Week seventeen.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Absolutely absolutely. I mean they do have talent there and
probably had enough talent to win that division. They just
didn't get consistent quarterback play. And Anthony Richardson's not ready
not ready yet, Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 7 (37:52):
For the Colts, that's on brand for them. They brought
to what Philip Rivers and Matt Ryan. They'll try their
hand that another veteran quarterback.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Why not blo bloop blue. We'll take a break when
we come back. Yeah, is Joe Flacco coming back again? Checking? Yeah? Okay,
so he might be coming back. Who knows sure? Why not? Yes?
Speaker 5 (38:15):
Mark?
Speaker 7 (38:16):
Can he win a comeback Player of the Year twice?
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Uh?
Speaker 11 (38:20):
Not?
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Back to back?
Speaker 5 (38:21):
I think Chad Pennington is a two time Comeback Player
of the Year winner. But you can't come back twice
because if you came back, you have to revert back
to badness.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
I think. But could something bad happen during that next
season that you came back from and then you won
come back player come back, back, back back actually, yeah,
player of the Year. Yeah. Steve Stricker I think won
comeback Player of the Year twice on the PGA Tour.
I think when we come back a little bit later
(38:51):
on this first hour, we'll bring back a portion of
the interview I did with Bob Yuker. That was the
last time that we had him on the show, passing
away at the age of ninety one.
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
All's quiet or all is quiet on the coaching front,
at least so far, and you have the possibility of
Mike McCarthy interviewing with the Bears today, and then you
have some of these other coaches who are still in
the postseason who aren't afforded that luxury. Now, the Dallas
Cowboys with Dion Sanders, that's going to get a lot
(00:25):
of run. That's going to play out until Dallas hires
a coach. I don't think it's going to be Dion.
I think Jerry Jones did Diona solid. Dion is in
negotiations for a contract extension at Colorado. He would normally
be getting that, but if there's the possibility of the
Raiders or the Cowboys, maybe he's able to make some
(00:46):
more money there. Because if you listen or read what
Dion had to say about his conversation with Jerry Jones,
he sort of implied inferred that he was offered the job. Hey,
you know, humbled by this and I got unfinished business
at Colorado. I don't think there was an offer here.
(01:06):
It wasn't reported as an offer. Dion kind of took
it and said basically, yeah, I'm not going to take
this job right now. I got unfinished business. Wait a minute,
I didn't offer the job to you. Now, maybe gets
around to doing that, because you know, normally when you
fire somebody, we always at least think the owner has
an idea who he's going to bring in. I truly
(01:29):
believe that the Craft family with the Patriots knew they
were bringing in Mike Brabel, and probably knew that in December.
They probably knew that a month ago where it's like
this is not working out. They would have brought in
Mike Brabel if they weren't already contractually binded with girod
Mayo because they wrote it into his contract that he
(01:50):
would be the successor to Bill Belichick. Then I think
they quickly realized he was not ready to be a
head coach. And it goes back to what I've said
many many times, not every great coordinator, good coordinator, deserves
to be a head coach. Ben Johnson is the object
of desire right now. I don't know what he's like.
(02:11):
I've never heard him interviewed. I don't know what it's
like when you're up there and you're answering questions, you
just lost a tough game. I don't know what kind
of culture is he able to be around Dan Campbell
and go I'm gonna have that same culture wherever I go.
I don't know. Is he gonna go to the Raiders?
How does that go with Tom Brady's game this weekend?
(02:35):
He's got that game, He's got the Lions game of
the Commanders. What happens if they show Ben Johnson on
the sideline? Is Tom Brady, minority owner of the Raiders,
allowed to talk about Ben Johnson? Does he have any
inside info? Which I would believe he would. I like
how the NFL makes it seem like this isn't a
(02:56):
conflict of interest. Seaton brought up something this morning, But
imagine if Jerry Jones was going to be the analyst
for a game. He love that and he's looking for
a head coach. Is there a conflict of interest there?
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Yes, Eton, Yeah, I mean, like, could you imagine Robert
Kraft immediately like, well, you know here, Drodmeo really not
getting it done. I think we're going to fire him
at the end of the game, and that means we're
open for business.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
But the NFL, you know, the NFL is bending over
backwards to help Tom. It feels like or looking the
other way. Conflict of interest, that is what it is.
And then you go back in the way back machine
to how they went after Tom, like you know, they
were going after him in a big time, big way,
(03:46):
like they were investigating him. Then this is like, you know,
he's with Fox, he's going to be calling the super Bowl.
Let's play nice, probably his last year as a broadcaster.
No conflict of interest here, yes, Eton, I love like.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
This is so actually blatant conflict of interest that's right
in our faces.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
That makes me wonder what are the other conflicts of.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Interest that they're also like, Ah, don't worry about that,
that's no big deal. Don't worry about it because this
one is right in our faces. Everybody could see it.
There's probably a million more that are behind the scenes,
like I just wink at that. Don't worry about that.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
That's fine.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
What about if it's a blowout. Let's say the lines
are up like twenty one with I don't seven minutes
to go. You got to fill a little time, and
all of a sudden, you're gonna go, uh, well, Ben
Johnson's gonna get a job Tom somewhere. Yeah, he certainly
seems like a good candidate to me.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
Anymore on that, Tom.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
No, that's all I have.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Raiders are looking to hire a new coach sometime before
the draft.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
That they wait, Is that your Tom Brady?
Speaker 3 (04:47):
All of a sudden, he's got a hardcore accent where
he talks about you know, the podcast for the I
was talking about the draft on the podcast.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
WHOA what dude?
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Where did that accent come from?
Speaker 2 (05:00):
I now, now I'm going to be listening for that.
Speaker 6 (05:04):
Yes, Todd or Brady goes the other way and pretends
he's not interested. It's like I Ben. Everybody's on this
Ben Johnson bandwagon. I don't know. When everyone doesn't reson,
then he swoops in at the last minute when everyone
thinks that the Raiders aren't.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Interested, it's the Ben wagon. I think it's I'm on
the Ben wagon here? Yeah? Does he go out of
his way to say, yeah, I don't know, I don't
get it, you know, all right, gimme keep plays. I
don't know if that works consistent.
Speaker 6 (05:30):
Some are just coordinators. They're not necessarily going to make
great head coaches.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
So I don't know, yes, yes, or Brady goes the
other way.
Speaker 5 (05:36):
Sam Laporta catches like a pass on the I cannot
wait to see him dial that up for Powers next year.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
I can't wait.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
Like he just puts it all out there.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Yeah yeah, uh so that's no conflict of interest there
with that game coming up this weekend with the Lions
and the Commanders. See, now you're going to listen. Now
we're going to read into how many times do you
listen to a game where you're gonna be eating into
maybe an ulterior motive. Troy Aikman came out after what
(06:05):
the last game that he and Joe did and said
something about the Cowboys job not being a good job
or desirable. But Troy is not part of the Cowboys,
or he's not part of another organization ripping the Cowboys.
Tom Is he's got his fingerprints all over this. He's
(06:26):
going to be making these changes, He's making these decisions,
but he's also going to be broadcasting a game where
maybe the number one candidate for the head coaching vacancies
is going to be coaching eight seven seven three DP
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DraftKings odds. These are the best super match up odds.
It's overwhelming that they think it'll be the Chiefs and
the Lions. Then it's the Chiefs and the Eagles, Ravens Lions.
(07:12):
So Chiefs and Lions plus three seventy Chiefs Eagles and
the Ravens Lions plus five hundred, and then they have
the Bills and the Lions plus five point fifty. So
they're not factoring in the Commanders or the Rams in
this situation. And if you're betting, the best odds, according
(07:33):
to Vegas, will be the Chiefs and the Lions meeting
in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
Yes, Paul, So as of today, Vegas likes the Eagles
more than the Lions.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
They no, No, they have the Lions against the Chiefs. Oh,
and then that's the Chiefs against Yeah, they have the
Chiefs against the Eagles, got it. And then they have
the raven No, they really like the Lions because they've
got them facing the Chiefs and facing the Ravens and
facing the Bills. So if I'm going to plan this,
(08:05):
the Bills versus the Lions would be where I would go.
Somebody's winning a super Bowl here? Yeah? Is that how
they sell it? And welcome to the super Bowl. Somebody
has to win this game these and can you imagine
the pain for one of these fan bases if Buffalo
(08:28):
plays Detroit? Which fan base would hurt more if they
lost this Super Bowl? Oh boy, I'm skewing negative eleven
minutes in Dang. I started out great with Strawberry Quick,
then I went to Brady conflict of interest, and now
I'm talking about pain misery for a fan base.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
Yes, Paul, I think this is a good question. And
my instant reaction was the Bills would have more pain.
They've been expecting to get a Super Bowl for the
past five years. They finally get there. They had the
for four stretch. Lions never even had that stretch, and
then you lose to the team that's never been there.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
But considering this is recency bias from you just lost
in dramatic fashion last year for you're the Lions. So
it's not like the Buffalo Bills back in the nineties
when they're losing super Bowls. It's this is the Lions
team that's supposed to win the Super Bowl? Are we
they're the favorites?
Speaker 5 (09:25):
Are we instituting the pain meter as of today?
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Sure? Yeah, Seaton, what's the pole question? I don't know.
Do we want to start out with which fan base
would suffer more? In a No, I can't do that.
I can't do that today because that's what we're doing.
By the way, if you're going to be in New
Orleans for the Super Bowl February fifth, at seven pm
(09:50):
local time, I'll be at Tippatina's with Dan Levittard. It's
Dan Interviews Dan, and we'll be there for ninety minutes,
having a conversation, take questions, and saying hello to people.
We still have some tickets, not a lot left, but
information on the tickets can be found at danpatrick dot
com and across our social media platforms. Is that the
(10:12):
pole question we're going with?
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Seed, It's definitely one of them.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Wow, that's for sure.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Which fan base would suffer more if they lost to
the Super Bowl? Buffalo Bill's Detroit Lions.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
That is a lot of fun we.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Can also put up there. Tom Brady being an NFL
broadcaster and owner. Is a massive conflict of interest or
no big deal?
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Well, let's go round the room here, because I want
to be fair to the topic here, Todd, do you
think it's a conflict of interest that Brady is a
minority owner while calling games?
Speaker 6 (10:45):
I think it's a conflict of interest. But if the
phrase is massive conflict of interest, I would lean the
other way. I think it's a conflict of interest. I
don't think it's a massive conflict.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
With Okay Seaton, Uh, okay, maybe we'll take out massive.
Then I would say it is a massive conflict of interest. Okay, then,
especially more like the more that it's not exactly a
new story, but the more that it sits with me,
and the more that everybody's just kicking around head coaching
candidates and all this stuff, and you're like, you got
(11:14):
this dude doing kid, This is crazy. How in the
world could you allow that to happen?
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Marvin, conflict of interest?
Speaker 7 (11:21):
As much as I love minority owner in the NFL, now,
conflict of interest?
Speaker 2 (11:27):
No, it is oh okay, okay, Pauly, conflict of interest.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
It's the definition of conflict of interest. It's direct. It's
not even like a layer removed. And what's worse is
the NFL gave Tom special treatment to make it happen.
They let him become a broadcaster and approved him becoming
an owner, which they did not have to do in
any way.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Yeah, it's like I they could have kept him in
the on deck circle before, you know. But I don't
think the NFL wants him to get out out of
the broadcasting booth. I think that they want him there.
I think Fox of course wants him there, and he's
going to be doing the Super Bowl. But as I've
said for the last couple of months, it feels like
(12:11):
he's moving on to something else and maybe he's won
and done doing these games and he gets to do
a Super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
Yes, Paul, it's kind of like what Seton said, almost
jokingly about Jerry Jones. Would they make him a broadcaster?
If I were an NBA broadcast team, I would consider
hiring someone like Mark Cuban to be on my staff.
But the conflict would be he owns the Mavericks and
you couldn't. But he's a star, he's a good guy,
he talks well. If I'm ana, can an NBA do this?
I don't think they could well.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
I think he's now a minority owner with the Mavericks,
so it would be identical if he was doing games.
I think Mark sold a good portion of the Dallas Mavericks.
I think so.
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Speaker 2 (14:01):
I saw a tweet from ed Werder and of course
always reading Ed Werders tweets, and had something to do
with the Cowboys. Ed is a Cowboy insider for w
FAA TV in Dallas, had to do with Dion, had
to do with Jerry Jones, and maybe maybe this is
actually in the on deck circling could happen and ed
(14:23):
warder kind of enough to join us. So you piqued
my interest with this, So explain what your tweet was
all about.
Speaker 10 (14:30):
That was my one and only interest in tweeting Dan
was to get your attention, thank you, and to have
an opportunity to make a long awaited guest appearance on
the show. If you want to play golf again, let
me know. Yeah, so I've I've been obviously following the
Cowboys you know for a long time, but you know,
certainly throughout this season and extending that coverage through the
(14:55):
dismissal of Mike McCarthy, which I think surprised a lot
of people, even those of us who covered the team
on a regular basis. And you know, when you start
configuring a list of potential candidates to be the next
head coach, only in Dallas do you have to make
sure to include Dion Sanders and Jason Witten former you know,
(15:17):
Cowboys tight end great who Jerry is enamored with, who
has only coached at the high school level. Regarding Dion,
obviously we know that he has not yet formally interviewed
for the job. The Cowboys have extended invitations to Leslie
Frazier and Robert Salah to be the first two to
interview formerly for the job. But Dion told Adam Schefter
(15:41):
the other day that Jerry Jones reached out to him
and they discussed the job, and everything I continue to
be told Dan is that Jerry is interested. It was
described to me as he's enamored with the idea. Obviously,
it's hard to imagine any coaching candidate who could create
(16:03):
more interest someone that Jerry could more sell to the
fan base here which needs to happen, and make Jerry
more money than Dion Sanders. I mean, he won a
Super Bowl here as a player. So there are also
people around Dion who tell me that he's being urged
by his supporters in Colorado to take the job, and
(16:27):
that they believe if Jerry ever does offer him the job,
that he will take. That he has an extension to
remain at Colorado on his desk that he hasn't even
looked at as he considers these other possibilities. But you know,
I mean, there are also people close to Dion who
tell me they don't see it happening, but they've seen
(16:47):
things happen with Jerry Jones that they didn't expect to
happen before. And he did hire Barry Switzer, So you
can't rule anything out. He's the most unpredictable owner in
the NFL on any subject, especially this one.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
But do you think that Jerry Jones had somebody in
mind when he was willing to let Mike McCarthy leave.
Speaker 10 (17:07):
I assume that Jerry's done this enough times. This is
his eighth time that he knows before you let somebody
who has some value. It has proven himself to the degree,
you know, Mike McCarthy has as a head coach in
this league with two different franchises that you're sure you're
going to get somebody who you think is going to
do a better job.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Yeah, I man for some reason. And I was talking
to Tim Callishaw, of course he covers the Cowboys, and
he said Dion was treating this as if he was
offered the job.
Speaker 10 (17:41):
Like.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
His response was, Hey, I'm honored or humboled or whatever,
but I got work to do as if he was
getting the job offer. And then I thought, well, maybe
is Jerry doing Dion a favor by Hey, maybe we
have some interest here and that helps him even more
with that extension at Colorado. But you think this is real,
(18:01):
This is something that could happen.
Speaker 10 (18:04):
I think it has merit, and I think when we're
talking about Jerry and Dion, you always have to be
wary of how this conversation could benefit each of them,
and it certainly does. But I think there is a
possibility of it happening. I mean, Dion apparently told Adam
Schefter that he doesn't need to use the Cowboys's leverage
(18:27):
to get what he wants at Colorado that he's him
and there's probably a lot of truth in that, given
the effect he's had on that program and the attention
he's brought to it and the money that's been dedicated
to the program since then. But yeah, and I think
a key figure if this were to go very far,
would be Mike Zimmer. You know, Mike Zimmer was a
(18:48):
defensive coordinator here this most recent season under Mike McCarthy,
coached under five head coaches in Dallas, and he has
not decided what he's going to do in terms of
whether he wants to continue coaching or not. I think
a lot of that is dependent upon what direction Jerry
decides to go and hiring the next head coach.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
And he would.
Speaker 10 (19:07):
Certainly, almost certainly Dan be a part of it if
Dion Sanders is the coach, because Mike is very close
to Dion. He coached him when he was here. He
was close, so close to his program at Jackson State
and then at Colorado that there were people speculating that
Zimmer was going to be the defensive coordinator of Colorado.
That never happened, but Zimmer made it clear during the
(19:28):
season when we spoke to him that he does frequently
still speak to Deon Sanders, so I'm sure he would
be heavily involved in that. And it's interesting that he
has made no mention or or offered no decision on
his future.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Okay, but we've talked about Jerry and he hires coaches
that are submissive and malleable, and that's not Dion. So
is Jerry finally maybe coming around to that I need
to have somebody be a head coach, act like a
head coach and not be looking over their shoulder constantly.
Speaker 10 (20:01):
Well, do you think that Jerry would think that there's
not room for him to influence Dion Sanders, who's never
coached at the NFL level, on how he views his
best route to being successful. I think Jerry would see
this as a very a very positive opportunity for him
(20:21):
to influence the way Dion Sanders coaches Jerry's football team. Now,
was interesting that during the season, when Jerry was first
asked about Dion, you know, he praised him as one
of his favorite players of all time, and you know
his competitiveness that he brought to the team, but he
also sort of dismissed his value as a head coach
in the NFL, because he said, what Dion offers now,
(20:44):
that's most attractive and most influences his success at CU
at the college level is his ability to recruit, and
that's not going to be a significant part of his
success in the NFL should he opt to coach in
the NFL.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
And that's true.
Speaker 10 (21:01):
I mean, he could influence free agents, but the Cowboys
have not been heavily involved in free agency in recent years,
to their own detriment. Quite honestly, you know, they were
the last team to sign a player four out of
the last five years. So it was interesting to me
that Jerry thought that was the most unique ability Dion
possessed and that it would not be a significant factor
(21:24):
in whether he succeeded at the NFL level.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Did Mike McCarthy want out?
Speaker 10 (21:31):
That's not the sense I got. I mean, when the
season ended, he was unequivocal and very public about the
fact that his goal in the next few days was to.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Remain in Dallas.
Speaker 10 (21:43):
He said he had made an investment in Dallas, the
Cowboys had made an investment in him. I think his
family wanted to be here. I sincerely think Mike McCarthy
wanted and expected it to work out, and I don't
know that we fully understand the real reasons.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
It did. Great to talk to you always, Ed, Thank you. Thanks.
An Ed Werder covers The Cowboys for WFAA TV in Dallas.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
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Speaker 2 (22:19):
Made it to a Friday, Dan and the Danauts Dan
Patrick Show. I'm not in the main man Cave. I'm
in the main man Cave, but not in the main
without the e man Cave and the recipe. The menu
today certainly bears that out. Fritzy probably not going to
be happy with all of this burger and waffle fries.
That's it. As Tyler said, he didn't want to waste
(22:41):
a good meat Friday on just the Dan Etts if
I wasn't going to be in studio. So that's who
has it better than we do, Noney buddy, this is fun.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
We're calling it the Winter Burger Festival. Burgers and beers
outside in the cold, burgers.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
And waffle on the menu. Here for a meet Friday,
all right, come on in, stay a while, we'll talk
to Jason Garrett, former Cowboys head coach David Carr, NFL
network analyst Mike Florio. We'll stop by as well. Operator
Tyler is sitting by. He'll take your phone calls throughout
the morning. Eight seven to seven three DP show three
(23:19):
days of football straight ahead, starting with Saturday games, Sunday games, Monday,
Monday night National Title game. So we'll try to dissect
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free estimate today, Oh better get make up play the day,
poll question stat of the day, all of that forthcoming.
The point spreads as of this morning, according to DraftKings,
I've got the Texans getting eight and a half, the
Commanders getting eight and a half, the Rams are getting six,
and the Bills at home are getting one and a half. Fritzi,
(24:01):
it's Friday, Fritzy. He's got a few pole question suggestions
seat and will also fill in some of the gray
area there with some of his own. Well. Recap the
big basketball game last night. You probably didn't watch it.
But the Oklahoma City Thunder now thirty four and six,
they rough up the Cavaliers as they win by twenty
and trying to make somebody a star in a city
(24:25):
that doesn't make stars or a game that probably doesn't
bear itself out and highlights on the Mothership. That's Shay
Gilgis Alexander. You'd have to work on the name, the
game and the fact that he's in Oklahoma City, but
I think all signs are leading to him being the
MVP this year. Might be a little MVP voter fatigue
(24:48):
with the Joker, but Shay Gilgis is averaging over thirty
a game. He had over forty last night against the Cavaliers.
We'll talk about that coming up. And he was second.
He finished runner up to Joker last year, so it's
not going to be a big surprise, but we'll talk
about that. You're trying or it feels like there's analysts
trying to let you know, watch him play. It's just
(25:10):
he's not a highlight machine. He's just extremely economically great.
It just he goes out there and he'll give you
forty points. I think he's done that six times so
far this season, all Righty, Todd, I'm going to start
with you. You have a few Friday Fritzy Poll.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
Questions Texans Aside, if the Lions reached the Super Bowl,
who should they want to play? That would be the Bills,
Chiefs or Ravens. Who should the Lions want to play
if they're fortunate enough to reach the Super Bowl?
Speaker 2 (25:42):
I think it's weird to say the obvious answer would
be the Kansas City Chiefs because they feel vulnerable at
fifteen and two. I want no part of Patrick Mahomes
in a big game. I don't. I don't been down
that road too many times. No, not gonna do you
give me. Lamar Jackson maybe one of the greatest seasons
(26:03):
ever by a quarterback, and Josh Allen is probably going
to be the runner up to him for MVP. I'll
take my chances because those guys haven't been in this
situation before. It's the same thing with Tom Brady. I
don't know how many years he wasn't the best quarterback
in the league. But if you said you got to
win one game or you had a game winning drive
(26:23):
and you gave him the football or anybody else, you said,
I'll take him. And that's what Mahomes is. Mahomes is
not a stat machine. He hasn't been. They've changed the
whole complexion of this team. It's a defensive team. They
do run the football. Travis Kelcey has regressed a little
bit the last couple of years. During the regular season.
He's another guy where you go, Man, I don't know.
(26:46):
It seems to be slowing down a little bit, and
it'll be like seven catches for ninety yards. And with Mahomes, somehow,
some way, you can't game plan for third and fifteen
and he gets out of the pocket dances down the
sidelines for sixteen. So I would say, I'll take my
chances with Buffalo or the Texans or the Baltimore Ravens,
(27:11):
anybody taking Kansas City that the Lions would want to
face O Todd, Okay, and.
Speaker 6 (27:16):
It'll be extra special to keep them from the three peats.
I think the Chiefs, to me, I understand your point,
which are all valid, are a little less scary than
Lamar and Josh and those two teams.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Okay. But if I said the Broncos were in the
AFC title game and you could face the Ravens, Bills
are Chiefs who were you taking.
Speaker 6 (27:35):
Based on what happened in the regular season. They got
destroyed forty one to ten against the Ravens. The Bills
just destroyed the Broncos. Denver almost beat the Chiefs in
Kansas City on a block field goal, and then they
let them be done thirty eight to nothing. I'm gonna
say I would take the Chiefs.
Speaker 7 (27:51):
They know us.
Speaker 6 (27:52):
But we know them. We played them twice a year,
and I just think the Chiefs are ripe for the taking,
as if Bills and Ravens scamming more than the Chiefs,
even with all the experience in seeing.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
What about you?
Speaker 4 (28:01):
Yeah, we us let's go.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Yeah Yeah. I feel like the Chiefs are actually the
last team that I want I would want to face,
and probably for all of the reasons you just mentioned
actually going for the three p They're completely unpredictable. I
feel like you can game plan for a lot of
different things, but you really can't game plan for that.
You know, fourth and seventeen, You've got Patrick Mahomes exactly
(28:24):
where you want to be scrambling, he jumps out of
bounds and somehow throws a thirty seven yard dart to
a wide open Kelsey. And this year like, what the hell,
we just had him sacked, We just had them on
fourth down.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
You know, you can't really game plan for that, But.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
You would also look at that game planning that Josh
Allen is capable of those crazy plays and Lamar Jackson
capable of those plays. I've just seen it when the
game is on the line and it's time to pucker
and Mahomes is awesome.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Yes, right, those guys are all capable of those things.
But Patrick Mahomes does them regularly, and right, those other
two quarterbacks they have more of a history of.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
Puckering. As you'd say that, they just makes them less scary.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
Yeah, Paulie, I'm with you. I want no part of
the Chiefs. The Chiefs have been ripe for the taking
for three straight years. It seems like every week they're down,
every game they're down. How many playoff games have they
been down? If I were a Lions fan going into
the fourth quart of the Super Bowl up two touchdowns
on the Chiefs, I'd be like, oh no, oh.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
My, it would never be caught it. He's got us
just where he wants us, right, you know, never comfortable.
Dang it, dang it, we're only up two touchdowns going
into the fourth quarter. But the Ravens in Buffalo and
the Ravens favored on the road by one and a half.
You know, you start to look at these and I
always go, what's Vegas want me to do? Is Vegas saying,
(29:50):
you know what, you got to take the bills. They're
getting one and a half at a home. That's what
they're saying to you. And then you look at these
numbers with the Commanders and the Lions eight and a half,
Texans Chiefs eight and a half. It feels and this
isn't fair to the Texans. I'll say that up front,
like the Commanders are capable, might be more capable of
(30:11):
beating the Lions in Detroit than the Texans beating the
Chiefs in Kansas City. And maybe that's you know, just
the perception of or the lack of respect the Texans get,
but eight and a half for both of these teams
on the road. And then the Rams and the Eagles
six point game. And I started to look at some
of the prop bets. Here if I said, over under
(30:36):
rushing yard Saquon Barkley against the Rams, Marvin, you got
a guess here, seventy five and a half all right,
Seaton eighty two, Paul eighty nine and a half.
Speaker 6 (30:51):
Todd I'm going to say ninety four and a half.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
One twelve and a half.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
That's aggressive, no respect.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
That surprised me a little bit there. Yeah, yeah, uh.
They expect Josh Allen to have more passing yards than
Lamar Jackson. How about Derrick Henry over under rushing yards
Ravens Bills.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Paul.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Ninety six and a half, Marvin.
Speaker 7 (31:20):
Eighty eight, Todd ninety and a half.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
Seaton two hundred and twenty seven and one a half.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Ninety seven and a half, PAULI had ninety six and
a half. Yes, Patrick Mahomes passing yards against the Texans,
Paul kind of low.
Speaker 5 (31:44):
I'm gonna go to twenty nine and a half, all right, Marvin.
Speaker 6 (31:51):
Two forty eight and a half Todd, Well, I kind
of split the difference there to thirty seven and a
half between those two gun.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
All right, Seaton, no connor, I'm gonna this is a
bad guest, But to twenty seven and a half.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
To twenty seven and a half is CJ. Strouds over.
Speaker 7 (32:09):
Gotta give him love for that.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Patrick Mahomes is two fifty and a half. Just some
of the random things here. Yeah, they got Josh Allen
two forty eight and a half, Lamar Jackson to twenty
four and a half, but uh and Pukainakua. They expect
him to have a really good game over under his
eighty eight and a half yards in that matchup. All right,
(32:33):
eight seven seven three, DP Show email address Dpatdanpatrick dot com,
Twitter handle at DP show once again, David Carr from
NFL Network. A little later on, we'll have the most
must win game of the weekend. Got her play of
the day coming up. Kind of a quiet last couple
of days with the coaching moves. Aaron Rodgers talks about
talking to the Jets, but Vegas has a new team,
(32:57):
a new place that Aaron Rodgers, if he decides to
play next year, that that would be the place that
he would be going to. Paulie, I'll start with you.
Vegas thinks that if Aaron Rodgers plays again, you know what,
let me play. Aaron Rodgers on McAfee's show talking with
the Jets, I.
Speaker 11 (33:17):
Gave some constructive things. It's there's so much that goes
into the whole thing. There's there's the food path, there's
the locker room. There's travel, there's hotel stuff, there's different
you know, you're just giving a little constructive things here
and there that maybe they take the heart, maybe they don't.
I think everybody understands that it's going to come down
to a GM and a coach and myself and whether
(33:39):
we all want to do a dance together or if
it's it's not in the cards, Okay.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Do a little dance, make a little love get down tonight,
down tonight. Figured that'd be right.
Speaker 6 (33:57):
Set me up lovely, even though you didn't mean to do.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
You know who sing sings that?
Speaker 5 (34:02):
Not?
Speaker 6 (34:02):
Sure?
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Casey? Okay, the Sunshine tod do you want?
Speaker 7 (34:11):
That's not them?
Speaker 2 (34:12):
It's not them, that's the Bay City Rollers. Wow, come on,
let's go, Come on, come on, how can I fail
that the months questions? Don't mail it in just because
it's Friday. Let's go. I got to pick it up
every day. Is the Super Bowl all right? Here? It
(34:33):
is Vegas. Is the place that Vegas thinks that Aaron
Rodgers is going to go. Yeah, the Raiders are the
favorites for Aaron Rodgers. And uh I was a little
bit surprised. Well, we brought this up here can you
get him to come in as your bridge quarterback? Would
Tom Brady entertain that as the new owner of the Raiders? Man,
(35:02):
unless I thought my team could be good and compete,
you know. I mean, you're in a division where the Broncos, Chargers,
and Chiefs all made the playoffs. So is Aaron Rodgers
going to help me with anything other than attendance? And
you're already a tourist attraction. Now you don't have a
home field advantage. But do I want Aaron Rodgers or
(35:24):
do I bring in somebody else and go? Can I
get through this next season and then maybe we start
to build this into a champion again? Yes, Paul.
Speaker 5 (35:34):
Lifestyle wise, it makes a ton of sense for Aaron Rodgers.
He could live out by pow Rump or Area fifty
one or what do they get a double wide out there?
What a satellite dish? He'd be perfect lifestyle wise.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Okay, anybody else have thought?
Speaker 7 (35:47):
Now?
Speaker 2 (35:48):
I thought maybe Pittsburgh, But he just doesn't fit in
with what Pittsburgh's whole philosophy is. I can't see that happening.
I mean, Russ didn't really fit in. I mean he tried,
but I just can't imagine Aaron being on McAfee talking
about whatever he's talking about, and then all of a sudden,
(36:09):
Mike Tomlin's got to go to the press conference say hey,
Aaron said the following on Pat McAfee. That feels like
that would get really old, really quick for Tomlin.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
Yes, I think it's got to be someplace that we
don't expect. They were like, hey, that makes a lot
of sense. I don't think it's going to be one
of those wow, that makes a lot of sense places
at all. Like it it's gonna be like New Orleans
or something where you're.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
Like, Okay, yeah, I could it's out of nowhere.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Him and DeVante Adams and two more of his buddies
are going to be like, why don't we just go
all land at the Saints.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Right now feels like it'll be Tennessee or the Raiders
if I was guessing, I have no information on that
other than just what I could see maybe one year
with the Raiders, but they're just not ready to win,
So why do I want to do that? Why do
I want to spend that money? It almost feels like
(37:02):
you take a step back before you take two steps forward,
and it doesn't mean he can't play a high I
mean his numbers were really good with the Jets, where
that's where stats are deceiving. Where you go, man? All right?
Not bad. The thing that I would want to look
at is his fourth quarter numbers, because that's the quarterback
I want. That's what I need. These games are all
decided by seven points or less. What did your quarterback
(37:25):
do when the game was on the line, Yes, Todd.
Speaker 6 (37:29):
Along with your thoughts on the Titans in a winnable
AFC South, would the Colts.
Speaker 7 (37:33):
Take a shot with him for a year?
Speaker 1 (37:35):
They were in the.
Speaker 6 (37:35):
Playoff picture up until towards the very end there, Week sixteen,
Week seventeen.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Absolutely absolutely. I mean they do have talent there and
probably had enough talent to win that division. They just
didn't get consistent quarterback play. And Anthony Richardson's not ready
not ready yet, Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 7 (37:52):
For the Colts, that's on brand for them. They brought
to what Philip Rivers and Matt Ryan. They'll try their
hand that another veteran quarterback.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Why not blo bloop blue. We'll take a break when
we come back. Yeah, is Joe Flacco coming back again? Checking? Yeah? Okay,
so he might be coming back. Who knows sure? Why not? Yes?
Speaker 5 (38:15):
Mark?
Speaker 7 (38:16):
Can he win a comeback Player of the Year twice?
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Uh?
Speaker 11 (38:20):
Not?
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Back to back?
Speaker 5 (38:21):
I think Chad Pennington is a two time Comeback Player
of the Year winner. But you can't come back twice
because if you came back, you have to revert back
to badness.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
I think. But could something bad happen during that next
season that you came back from and then you won
come back player come back, back, back back actually, yeah,
player of the Year. Yeah. Steve Stricker I think won
comeback Player of the Year twice on the PGA Tour.
I think when we come back a little bit later
(38:51):
on this first hour, we'll bring back a portion of
the interview I did with Bob Yuker. That was the
last time that we had him on the show, passing
away at the age of ninety one.
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