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May 3, 2025 50 mins

NBA legend Charles Barkley joins the show. He says the Heat should be embarrassed for quitting against the Cavaliers and that he probably would have punched Tyrese Haliburton’s dad in the face if he were in Giannis Antetokounmpo’s shoes. Dan apologizes to Rudy Gobert who dominated Game 5 as the Timberwolves dismissed the Lakers and he wonders what the plan is for Lebron and the Lakers moving forward. Dan starts the show by warning both benches after Marvin inadvertently broke his beloved Bill Walton Bobblehead. And Dan reacts to the NBA Playoffs including the Knicks advancing and Lakers HC JJ Redick calling out his team (hint: he means Luka Dončić) for not being in “championship shape.”

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
He is the star of Inside the NBA Hall of Famer.
Charles Barkley back on the program, Chuck, good to see
you finish this sentence. If the Lakers lose tonight, dot
dot dot.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
The Lakers.

Speaker 4 (00:20):
I told you two months ago, six weeks. The Lakers
are on a good team. They got two really really
good players, but not a good team. ESPN just swings
on them like they choked, like everything chased like chicken.
But the Lakers are not a good team. They're gonna
lose either this round or next round, but more likely
this round. But they just they're not very good.

Speaker 5 (00:44):
What do you think the future?

Speaker 2 (00:45):
And like, if you're let's say you're Luca and you
look around, JJ didn't play anybody off the bench. Lebron's
got maybe two more years left.

Speaker 4 (00:55):
If you're the Lakers are not going to be a
contender with the team they now, your best player can't
be forty or I just don't think that's the that's
that makes no sense whatsoever. Yeah, your best player can't
be forty. I mean, and JJ was wrong the other

(01:16):
night to play those guys entire second half because number one.
It's probably gonna affect them tonight. It definitely affected them
down the stress the other night. You know, both of
those guys missed layups and they made some mental mistakes
with the ball. So now it's this is not the
Lakers year. And people think I hated the Lakers. I
told you that's the Lakers on a good team. But

(01:38):
ESPN was just swinging on them like they were damn
King Kong and so.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
But if but if you're Luca, do you want to stay?
Do you want to re sign? If you're looking around
at what you have with the Austin Reeves a nice player,
But what are you going to build on when Lebron's gone?

Speaker 4 (01:56):
Well, I don't know the answer to that question, first
and foremost, but I don't think he can go anywhere.
I mean, he's gonna be a Laker, probably for life
from this point going forward. Okay, you know then and
then you know, the clowns of the ESPN they always
make me laugh because.

Speaker 5 (02:15):
You aren't you going to be working there?

Speaker 4 (02:17):
And yeah, but there you know, I'm gonna be a
straight shooter. It's interesting how they were discussing Janni's this week,
like shit, Jannis want to leave.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
I'm like, I clearly don't remember when I played.

Speaker 4 (02:32):
I don't remember saying we need to get Chalk Barker
some help in Philadelphia or Phoenix, or Carmelan some help
in Utah, Patrick Ewn some help in New York. I
don't remember guys at the media kissing my ass and
calls ass and Patrick asked like, well, Yanna should want
to leave Milwaukee now because he can't win the championship.

(02:54):
I wonder what all the guys were when I played,
asking me to get some help.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
I mean, they were kissing.

Speaker 4 (02:59):
They were like loving the Lakers, loving, loving it Selfish,
loving Michael, loving the Pistons. But I don't remember all
these kiss asses back in the day saying, you know,
we need to get Charles Barkerson help because he can't
win a championship in Philly or Phoenix. But it makes
me laugh. They're like, no, Johanni's got to leave Milwaukee.
You know that already started. Uh Like, wow, y'all, we

(03:23):
was concerned about us other great players back in our day.
But y'all, all of a sudden, now y'all like, oh,
Jannis has got to leave Milwaukee. Now's his championship wasn't
no clothes. I'm like, man, thanks for helping me out
when when I went out there with nobody.

Speaker 5 (03:40):
You had a great team in Phoenix.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
We had a really good teams.

Speaker 5 (03:44):
You guys should have won the title that year.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
No, Michael was better.

Speaker 5 (03:48):
Mike was better, but you guys had a better team
than the Bulls.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (03:53):
It was a Pickham series. But Michael was the greatest ever.
And then the next two years a team was better
than me when it counted. So hey, listen, all I
wanted one of the reason I got out of Philadelphia.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
I just wanted a chance.

Speaker 4 (04:06):
I had three chances at it, and we lost to
the champs three years in a row. That's all you want.
But I don't want to stack my team ever that
I I'm going to always be against super team period.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
All Right, I'm watching last night you guys after the
Pacers game, and Shack is blaming Yanni's for the altercation,
the incident with Tyre's Halliburton's dad.

Speaker 4 (04:30):
Yeah, that was Shaq was one hundred percent wrong and
stupid on that subject. I've never did I've never seen that.
Number One, I want to thank Tyreech for coming out apologizing,
and then I want to thank his dad for coming
out and apologizing, Like, I ain't never seen that before.
In my over forty years in the NBA, I've never

(04:51):
seen a parent.

Speaker 6 (04:53):
You know.

Speaker 4 (04:53):
It was like AAU crap. Yeah, you know how much
I hate AAU. It's like these parents they think they
can scream their kid to the NBA. It drives me
flat crazy, but they apologize.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
Let me tell you something, Joannest is one of my
favorite players.

Speaker 4 (05:13):
He became more one of my favorite players last night
because ain't no way in the hell I wouldn't have
clocked his ass. There ain't no way I wouldn't have
clocked him. And I ain't trying to be no fake
tough guy on television. There's no way I wouldn't have
punched him in the face when he did what he did.
There's no way. And I say, I ain't trying to
be no fake tough guy. But in the heat of

(05:35):
the moment, and you honest said it, I didn't know
it was his dad. If a regular fan came on
the court and did that, to me, a one percent
would have punched him in the face.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
Should he get the same punishment as if that was
just a fan in not Tyrese Haliburton's death.

Speaker 4 (05:55):
I don't even know what the appropriate punishment is. Like
I say, glad they both apologize. I'm not sure what
the punishment is. What's fair?

Speaker 2 (06:07):
How about you keep him away from the first playoff game,
the next playoff game at home?

Speaker 3 (06:12):
That's fair, that's fair.

Speaker 4 (06:13):
I don't think he should be executed, but I think, hey,
you can't come to the next to the next two
games at home.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
I think that would be fair.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Or if he wants to be on the court so badly,
he must play five minutes for the Pacers, that would.

Speaker 4 (06:27):
Be a great He has to start the game and
play the first quarter for his son, that'll be a
great punishment.

Speaker 5 (06:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
Yeah, he's got to guard Donovan Mitchell. I think that's
right for five five minutes.

Speaker 4 (06:43):
Hey, he has to play. No, you can break it
up how you want to. He has to play twenty minutes.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
He's Charles Barkley, the Hall of Famer Turner Sports Inside
the NBA analyst. I know athletes hate it when you
know people in my position say somebody quit. So I'm
just trying to come up with a better description for
what the Miami Heat did the other night against Cleveland.
If they didn't quit, what exactly did they do?

Speaker 7 (07:10):
Well?

Speaker 4 (07:10):
You know, it's interesting. It's three things I don't like doing.
One thing I would never do say somebody should get fired.
I've made that clear for twenty five years. I'll never like,
I can say they're not doing a good job, but
I will never say somebody should get fired.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
That's just like my number one rule.

Speaker 4 (07:27):
Secondly, I don't like using the word choke or quit
because that's that's damning. But the Miami Heat quit in
Game four because if you were not embarrassed after Game three,
you and to come out and play like you did
in Game four. The Miami Heat they quit, they were

(07:49):
ready for can Coon And it was really unfortunate because
I have so much respect for pat Riley, Alonso Marnig
and Eric Sposter, and like I say, the Cavs were
gonna win the series. But to come out there and
quit like that. But you know, Eric Sposed said that
was embarrassing. That was embarrassing for the Heat organization. And

(08:10):
but I have faith in pat Riley, Alonzo Marning and
Eric Sposed. They're gonna fix They're gonna fix it. I mean,
they would once Jimmy Butler forced his way out of there.
They needed to get the season over with. I hated
an it ended as badly as did and it was unfortunate,
but they quit.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
Steve Kirk came out and said, Draymond Green is the
best defender he's ever seen.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
Well, he can say that, but he's supposed to. That's
his player.

Speaker 4 (08:39):
But he's not a bet off defender than Michael Kobe,
Dennis Rodman. He's a terrific defender, but he's not. But
I he gonna just say. He gonna say that.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
Yeah, but you gotta be also honest when you do it.
From the standpoint of he did. He played with Michael,
so he he did see the best defensive player.

Speaker 4 (09:01):
Listen, I think in the moment he got he got
to say the reason Draymond wasn't in the game because
sing Goon was cooking him. We got it from like,
you know, Draymond was in foul trouble. Why was he
in foul trouble? Goon was cooking him. So but listen,
Draymond is a heck of a player. He's a really
good player. He's a really good defender. But I expect

(09:24):
coaches to defend their players. I really do.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
He not a better defender than Rodman was when Dennis
was with the Pistons.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
No he was not.

Speaker 4 (09:32):
No, Uh, he was not a better defender than Rodman.
I can one hundred percent say that Dennis was amazing.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
But Pippin, to me, was a better defender than Mike.
Scotty could guard everybody.

Speaker 4 (09:48):
Well, he couldn't guard me. Hey, they doubled me with
Harvest Grant. Now let's get that out there.

Speaker 5 (09:56):
Okay, all right, that's fair.

Speaker 4 (09:58):
But you know what, I I will agree Scott Scott
is a better defender than Draymond. I'll give him its flowers.

Speaker 5 (10:07):
Who did you love seeing on you? Like?

Speaker 4 (10:11):
I never I never even worried about it day and
nobody remember back in the day when they had the
Jordan stopper, we used to laugh about.

Speaker 5 (10:21):
That, like Gerald, Gerald Wilkins.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
Like, are you serious right now?

Speaker 4 (10:26):
There's no great player, there's no great player who can
be stopped. You can make him work hard, Like you
can't stop Jannis, you can't stop Bird, you can't stop
Dominique Wilkins. Uh, you're not gonna stop me. You're not
gonna stop now. You can make us work hard but

(10:46):
this notion that you're gonna stop a great player, that's insane.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
You're not gonna stop a great player, period.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
But there wasn't a guy where you go. Because George
Gervin I asked him that question. I said, ice, who
was the guy that you couldn't wait to see on
the court? And he goes Kevin Greevy. He played for
the Baltimore Bullets. He said, I loved playing against Kevin
Greevy because I knew I was going to score.

Speaker 5 (11:13):
You didn't have that guy where you go. I'm putting
up forty.

Speaker 4 (11:18):
Well, you know, I felt like I was going to
get double team ninety five percent of the time. I
don't think I never thought that one guy could guard me.
It's interesting when people put up stell photos of me.
A couple of people have noticed this. They're like, why
aren't you looking at the defender? I said, first of all,
I'm not even worried about the guy guard me because

(11:40):
I'm always looking past the defender.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
Yeah, if you.

Speaker 4 (11:43):
Get a steal photo of me with the ball, I'm
never even worried about the guy guard me. I'm looking
like where's the double team coming from? Or where I'm
going I'm I and I didn't even know this one
of my friends. He said, Man, I'm looking at these
old photos of you when you got the ball. You're
not even looking at the guy. I said, Dude, I'm
not even worried about one guy stopping me. I don't

(12:06):
care who it is. I don't care if it's rotten.
I don't care if it's Kevin McHale, who's a great defender,
Key mckeal, the best player I've ever played against. I'm
not I'm looking like, is there a double team or
what angle am I going. I'm never worried about one
guy stopping me, period.

Speaker 5 (12:22):
What if Jordan guarded you.

Speaker 4 (12:24):
He's too little, he's too little, He's he listen, Michael,
he can't guard me in the post.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
He's too little.

Speaker 5 (12:34):
Did you say that to him.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
I've said it to him a thousand times, little man.

Speaker 4 (12:41):
Late, Hey, little man, you're at the wrong place. Hey,
I say, little man, you're at the wrong place, at
the wrong Wait.

Speaker 5 (12:47):
He's taller than you.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
He too little though, he's too little.

Speaker 5 (12:52):
He can jump.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
Yeah, he gonna fly because I'm gonna hit his ad.

Speaker 5 (12:56):
I'm gonna hit him.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
I'm hit him with in hand.

Speaker 5 (13:02):
What was it like when you guarded him?

Speaker 3 (13:05):
I can't guard him? It was really funny.

Speaker 4 (13:08):
He actually talked about this one time we switched out
and I get down on my defensive stands and he
just started.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
He did I switched out and he looked at me.

Speaker 4 (13:22):
He just started laughing and just said, are you serious
right now?

Speaker 3 (13:26):
And he actually passed the ball, but because he was
laughing so hard.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
Golden State didn't double when you scored fifty six.

Speaker 4 (13:37):
And you know what's really funny about that? I had
I think twenty four twenty six the first quarter. So
I'm running by the bench and I said, Nelly, you
better double me.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
He says, nope.

Speaker 4 (13:55):
After I get like the first ten the first quarter,
I said, Nellie, are you gonna double me? He said,
not all night, I'm not gonna w So I got
like twenty four the first quarter.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
Basically I think I had twenty eight the.

Speaker 4 (14:09):
First half, and I'm screaming at Nelly, you better double me,
and he's screaming at me, not a chance. W A
Byron Houston's too little, Chris galling too little. It's so
funny because that it was amazing, and I'm screaming at him,
are you gonna double me. He's like, I'm not gonna
do w all night. And that's absolutely a true story.

Speaker 5 (14:32):
That was your high fifty six yes.

Speaker 3 (14:36):
In uh in a in uh.

Speaker 4 (14:38):
And I think that was the game we because I
was already man because Nike made a commercial with me. Well,
Chris Webber dunket on me.

Speaker 8 (14:48):
And so.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
We uh did he bring the ball around his back
and then dunk.

Speaker 4 (14:56):
Yeah. My mind said to me, I said, Chris is
not a great free throw shooter. I'm gonna file him.
So I reached for the ball to file him and
he took it. I was gonna take a file and
he took it behind his back and dunked on me.
And it was a three point play. So Niken calls
me and say, hey, can we use this in a commercial?

Speaker 3 (15:18):
I said, of course, I'm not upset about it. I
get everybody's been dunked.

Speaker 8 (15:21):
Ump.

Speaker 4 (15:22):
So then when they when the commercial come out and
Chris is, well, I don't care what anybody said, you're
my role model. He's laughing in the barbershop. I said, oh,
I got to make him pay for that. I got
to make him pay for that.

Speaker 5 (15:38):
A side topic, what is Bill Belichick doing.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
Well?

Speaker 4 (15:45):
This is a very slippery subject for me because Bill
is one of my really good friends. I don't I'm
not sure what's going on. Uh, you know, he's been
a great friend for me for a long time. I'm
we've been For instance, he coached for the Browns. I
think he got to be very careful right now. This

(16:06):
is starting to be on a very slippery slope. He's
the greatest football coach ever for him and Nick Saban
for college, Nick Saban for Bill the NFL. Yeah, I
from what I'm hearing, it's starting to be a very
slippery slope. And I never talk about people's personal relationship.
That's another rule I got. But I will admit I'm

(16:29):
a little concerned with some of the stuff that's going on,
and I might actually reach out to him and make
sure everything's good. But I am concerned from what I'm hearing,
because yeah, it's not a good look right now, I'll
admit that.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
And he's such a control freak, but he's relinquished control.
It feels like that's what's surprising to me.

Speaker 4 (16:52):
Yeah, listen, man, I have very strict rules on things
about don't ask me no personal questions. Nobody in my
family can speak. No, I'm the one who's famous. I'm
the one who have to deal with all the crap. No,
don't say anything, because if you say something, it's just

(17:14):
going muddy the water.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
That's what I call it.

Speaker 4 (17:16):
If any family members speak out, it's just going muddy
the water.

Speaker 3 (17:20):
And yeah, I'm a little concerned.

Speaker 4 (17:23):
I'll admit that because you know, he's my friend through good,
bad and whatever.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
And I just hope he I hope everything's all right.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
Whenever I see you doing those Capital one commercials you
got Spike Lee, it dawned on me the last time
could Spike ever play basketball?

Speaker 3 (17:42):
No? Okay no, And let me tell you something.

Speaker 4 (17:45):
There's two people who I work with are the best
at what they do. There's a guy named Joe Picka
who's one of the greatest directors of all time. The
second one is Sam Jackson. They are the two best
I've ever worked with when it comes to making commercials
because they know what works. Like sometimes both of those guys,
we're shooting a commercial, they're like, now that sucks, We're

(18:08):
not gonna do it like that. Joe Picker and Sam
Jackson they're like no. And Sam was like, who wrote
this craft? Who wrote this crack and he says, that
doesn't work, It doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
Let's do it like this.

Speaker 4 (18:21):
But those are the two best I've ever worked with
as far as knowing what works on camera. Joe Pick
and Sam Samuel L. Jackson, they are the best. But Spike, Spike,
Spike has zero athletic ability.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
Zero.

Speaker 5 (18:38):
All right, I just wanted to know.

Speaker 3 (18:41):
No, zero athletic ability.

Speaker 5 (18:43):
Are you golfing today?

Speaker 8 (18:46):
No?

Speaker 3 (18:46):
We got.

Speaker 4 (18:46):
It's kind of hard because you know, we worked at
two in the morning, and I have to get up
early to play because you know, we got to be
back in the studio about six o'clock tonight. So I'll
start playing next week, be honest with you, because once
we get teams eliminated.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
We have a lot.

Speaker 4 (19:04):
We work every night, but we have some nights we
have like one game, but right now we still have
two games going to two in the morning.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
So I'm not golfing right now.

Speaker 5 (19:15):
Shock had to go to the bathroom the other night.

Speaker 4 (19:18):
Oh man, that was hilarious, wasn't it. But you know
what's so funny, Dan, he not even my age yet.
You know, like back probably five to seven years ago.
If I had to go to the bathroom. Like if
I was watching something on television, I could hold it,
and like, once I got like fifty five, you can't.
And he's getting that age now, like yeah, if you

(19:41):
try to hold it, it's gonna come out on his own.

Speaker 3 (19:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (19:45):
So I told him, I said, welcome to old time age, brother.
You can't.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
When you gotta go, you gotta go. Is that simple?

Speaker 5 (19:52):
We gotta go. Great to talk to you again. Thank you, Chuck.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
All right, brother, thanks for having me. You take care
of you, of brother.

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Speaker 2 (21:07):
Timberwolf said goodbye to the Lakers, the Rockets, roll the Warriors.
I walked in today. First person I see is Marvin,
and Marvin says the following, you're going to apologize I
said about what you know what I said? No, you
know what you said? I go, wait, is this about

(21:30):
Rudy Gobert. Yes, you're called ing the most overrated player
in the NBA. I'd like to take this moment. I'm
going to stare into the camera to Rudy Gobert, I
apologize for saying you're the most overrated player in the
NBA for one night.

Speaker 5 (21:51):
It's a temporary apology, very very temporary.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
Rudy Gobert looks like a chem Elijahwan, It looked like Shack,
looked like Tim Duncan. Rudy Gobert had twenty seven points
and twenty four rebounds. Excuse yes, I said the same thing.
He dominated twelve to fifteen from the floor. He's the
third player in the last fifty years to have a

(22:17):
twenty twenty in a playoff game while shooting at least
eighty percent from the floor. He was great. The rest
of the timber Wolves not so good, and they still won.
The Lakers shot better from two point three point free
throw line, and they ended up losing, and you say
goodbye to the Lakers what could have been? But to

(22:38):
Rudy Gobert once again, congratulations on a wonderful performance against
a front line that I think I probably could have
gotten ten rebounds. But once again, I mean, come on,
Lakers had no big guy. Rudy Gobert should have been dominating,

(22:58):
just rebound wise, rebounding, that's all. He should have twenty
rebounds every game against the Lakers, he should have. But
once again to Rudy Gobert, congratulations on a wonderful, wonderful performance.
Did that seem sincere.

Speaker 6 (23:14):
Not feeling the sincerity? You're not because he went out
you want to say it, well, for one night anywhere,
you did that, and you're expected to do that anyway.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
Other than that, and you know fake sincerity. Okay, yes, Marvin.

Speaker 8 (23:26):
But Rudy's still one of the most overrated, not just
not the most overrating.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
Yeah, okay, yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Congratulations the Timberwolves. They advance
as they dust off the Lakers, for one, and as
we always do, we don't look at the team that's advancing.
We look at the team that's going off into the sunset.
The question is is Lebron going off into the sunset
as well? He was asked about his future after the loss.

(23:55):
Do you have that, Marvin?

Speaker 3 (23:59):
I have?

Speaker 8 (24:00):
It's about JJ Redicks season.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
Oh okay, I thought that he was asked about his
future there.

Speaker 11 (24:08):
I think JJ are going to continue to grow. I
thought he had a hell of a rookie campaign for
a rookie coach that's already hard being a rookie coach
in NBA, and that's a hell of a lot harder
being a rookie head coach coaching the Lakers. It's a
whole another ball game. And I thought he handled it
extremely well. I thought he I just learned every single day,

(24:31):
he held us accountable, he pushed us.

Speaker 3 (24:36):
I thought JJ and his coach Stab were great. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
I thought that he had a really good regular season.
I don't think he did well in this series. I
think he was all in on the previous game and
he didn't sub out in the second half. I think
he thought, if we win this game, we can win
the series. If we don't win this game, we're not
going to win this series. That was just my feeling.
If you're watching it in real time and you're thinking, Okay,

(24:59):
they might in this game, and then they didn't, and
then I wonder what the aftershocks would be, and we
saw that Minnesota didn't play well at all. It's just
the Lakers have no bench. Now you're really reliant on Luca,
who was banged up under the weather, and you're relying
on Lebron James. And it's not fair to Lebron to say, hey,

(25:21):
you still have to be one of the ten best
players in the game. I think if he comes back,
I think you're going to have to look at how
do you monitor his minutes here? And it might be
one of those situations like the San Antonio Spurs used
to do. They didn't care about the regular season. This
is about the postseason. How many minutes you play and
how fresh are you going to be in the postseason.

(25:43):
I think Lebron his ego gets in the way. He
wants to prove that he can play every single night,
and he's going to play as many minutes as possible.

Speaker 5 (25:52):
Now I admire that.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
I want to see the stars play, but I also
have to factor in what is the ultimate goal? Not
to prove that you can play more games than guys
who were twenty years younger than you. It's to prove
how great you are when you get to the postseason.
Because that's how he's measured. The regular season doesn't matter. Okay,
you get another All Star appearance, all right, you score

(26:15):
a couple thousand points, you add to your forty thousand
points or assist or whatever it might be. This is
about winning a championship, and I wonder how close he
thinks they really are. The West is young okayse he's
not going anywhere. You're seeing a Houston Rockets team that's young,
might get Kevin Durant, might be the missing piece for

(26:36):
them in the off season, but they might beat the
Golden State Warriors. You saw last night. They weren't afraid
and they shut down Steph Curry. So you start to
look around and you go, Okay, where do we fit here?
And if I'm a Laker fan, I think we're kind
of a middle of the pack. I loved what they
were doing when they had an eight game winning streak.

(26:57):
They had a stretch there where they were playing great
d and it felt like there was a collaboration going on.
It wasn't just two players. There was a true collaboration.
But then as you get to the postseason, coaches really
start to limit the number of players who contribute. You
might go seven deep, maybe eight, But the Lakers, I

(27:22):
think JJ Reddick looked at that bench and he went,
I don't want to put those guys in. You know,
you don't have confidence in them, But if you put
him in, then they can gain confidence. So that's what
I didn't understand. But JJ Reddick he was testing so pregame,
this is a pregame press conference, and he was asked
about what happened with the lack of substitutions previous game.

Speaker 12 (27:48):
What do you recall about your thought process in the
moment sticking with the five you stuck with in the
fourth quarter the other day? And is there an assistant
or someone maybe that you'll lean on tonight maybe to
try to get you some other guys involved, if that
opportunity present.

Speaker 13 (28:05):
Where you're saying that because I'm inexperienced and that was
an inexperienced decision that I made. Do you think I
don't talk to my assistance about substitutions every single time out?

Speaker 12 (28:15):
No, I just think there's a lot of coaches lean
on their assistance in those situations.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
As every single time. That's a weird assumption.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
And then he walked out, So that's pregame tension running
a little high there. I think it's a fair question
to ask. I think you can ask it in a
better way. But I do think the topic is fair
because of what we just saw. Yeah, if it.

Speaker 14 (28:42):
Didn't strike me as that unfair of a of a question. Plus,
I don't know why the reporter should assume the other way.
Either the reporter should assume that he just does everything
that we think he does. I mean, it doesn't seem
like that crazy of a question.

Speaker 15 (28:56):
Yeah, PAULI, I disagree just a hair. The phrasing of
the question is. But it feels like they're doing a
preview of the next game in this press conference, not
even the last night see him, but the following. That's
what it's meant for for quotes for after. And this
is a three day old story, two day old story.
And Reddick is probably like, we're still talking about this now.
That said, he could have blown it off with a

(29:18):
pad answer easily.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
Yeah, But you know that's just if you watch JJ
when he was doing his TV work at the Mothership,
he if he if he got bored with you or
he was going to dismiss you, he could get combative,
like he didn't suffer fools. He's like, oh God, this
guy's going to tell me about substituting. Okay, I got it.

(29:42):
Now that makes you a great media guy, not necessarily
a great head coach. But the topic I thought was fair.
And we saw the bench scored four points. There weren't substitutions,
and I think you had a tired team. Now I
look at this a couple of different ways because you

(30:03):
have Lebron. How many more years? And Lebron said after
he's not sure, he's not sure what's going to happen here.
It feels like there's one more year there. I think
I think you owe it to the possibility of you
and Luca having an entire offseason, training camp, an entire
regular season together. JJ Reddick's second year Austin Reeves is

(30:27):
a you know, a really good player, but you start
to look at the other players on the roster and
you're going, are you going to develop them?

Speaker 5 (30:36):
Can you get somebody in there? I think it's difficult.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
You know, Lebron's going to make sixty million dollars and
probably sixty million dollars attached to that because he's still
playing basketball with endorsements. If you're Luca, do you want
to be the centerpiece? Are you going to be the
guy when Lebron leaves in a year? Are you ready
for that? Here's Luca after the game last night.

Speaker 16 (31:08):
I mean, it has been great, honestly, you know, the
way the fans accept to me. I know, he's been amazing,
the way the community takes up to him. He has
been amazing. So I'm really glad that I'm here, had
a great a couple of months, you know, trying to
learn about everything about the city, about the team, so

(31:29):
just trying to process everything.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
All right, So he's got one more year on his deal,
then does he want to be there? He's going to
get paid, He'll be the centerpiece there. And then you
start to look at that trade. Who won in that trade?
I mean Dallas God, Anthony Davis, Lakers got Luca. Both
are out moving forward and this I think I would

(31:56):
have a better answer in a year if if you
said after next year, I think then I'm going to
grade the trade. Now that's not fair because we want
to grade a trade right away. But if I said
to you, you could have had Luca or you could
have Yanis if you're the Lakers. So if you knew
that the Mavericks were going to move on from Luca

(32:19):
right because defense wins championships, they weren't going to pay
him this money. Let's say he was going to be
available in the off season. Let's say you had Yannis
available in the off season. What would you do if
you're the Lakers, Because it's not a real scenario, it's hypothetical,
but if you look at how this was going to
play out, then maybe that would have been the scenario

(32:41):
where Luca would have been available, and he's four years
younger than Yannis. But this is one of those did
they make the right deal for the right player at
the right time, And I think they did that because
now all of a sudden, you got Lebron, who's on
the clock. How many more years does he have? We
can get Luca. We might be able to steal a
championship here, because if you don't have Lebron, are the

(33:06):
Lakers making that move? And the answer is probably yes,
because he's one of the top five, top ten players
in the game. But you're making that move with Lebron
to win a championship, whereas if you didn't have Lebron,
you would make that move just for the future. So
this would be an experimental year, but this was about

(33:27):
winning a championship and you failed miserably. Now you're a
three seed, so you can't say, well, the expectations are
too high. You're a three seed and you have maybe
the best duo in basketball, and yes.

Speaker 5 (33:41):
You do have a rookie coach.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
But I think JJ Reddick did a really good job
during the regular season the postseason. I think he'll look
back on that and you get together with your staff
and you say, what could we have done better? Who
could we have played a little bit more? You're seeing
this with the Knicks. I mean, I'm Thibodeau. He does
this all the time that he plays his players. He

(34:04):
doesn't have a deep rotation there. But you can only
do that for so long and then these players get
worn down. That's why the Spurs were always fresh in
the postseason because Greg Popovich he prioritized that. He was like,
I don't care if we're the first or second or
third seed.

Speaker 5 (34:22):
I don't care.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
I want my guys ready to go in the postseason.
And they were, Uh, Seaton, what's poll question we're going
to have? By the way, Lebron said, I don't have
an answer to the question about what comes next. I'll
sit down with my wife and family support group, have
a conversation with myself on how long I want to
continue to play. We'll see in the moment I get

(34:46):
the answer, I think he's going to be back and
play again.

Speaker 5 (34:50):
He's also got his son there.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
There's a lot of money there you're playing with the
Lakers and you get a chance to spend more time
with Luca and develop that.

Speaker 5 (35:00):
Yes, seton it.

Speaker 14 (35:01):
Is crazy that that theoretically could have been the last
time we saw him play, and it doesn't feel like
that at all.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
You're right, it could be. But I think he's gonna
play one more year. I think he knows he's done,
gonna win another championship. This might just be patting your stats. Uh,
you know, get to play with Luca, get to play
with your son, but you know, currently constructed, they're not

(35:30):
better than you know, these other younger teams.

Speaker 5 (35:33):
Yeah, Paul, it's.

Speaker 15 (35:35):
Interesting when Seaton brought up before the show. No one's
discussing even the possibility that Lebron can retire. I think
everyone thinks he would do the tour, but there's any chance.
He says to himself, I got my son in the league,
I got him on the roster, I played basketball games
with him.

Speaker 5 (35:48):
That was the icing on the cake. It's hard to
pick her.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
He's measured differently than anybody else in the history of
the game. So it's not He goes, hey, I got
my son in and hey, you know we.

Speaker 5 (36:03):
Made the play.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
I am playing with Luke. It's it's all about you know.
Now you've got Steph Curry, who's kind of on his level.
You know, people now want to bring who's better, who's
had a better career, Stephan Lebron, like Lebron by far,
Like what are we doing here? Steph's a wonderful player,
but you know now he's encroaching on Lebron because his

(36:23):
team's still alive and Lebron's isn't.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
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Speaker 2 (36:35):
Awkward Moment Yesterday after the show, thought it was a
decent show and talking to the Dan Nets, and all
of a sudden, I hear a crash and I look over.
Marvin is over by my desk, and then I realize
Marvin has knocked something off my desk, not just anything.
I have a lot of chotchkes here. If you're watching

(36:55):
on Peacock, you can see a lot of stuff on
my desk. But you know how I feel about Bill Walton,
one of my favorite people, one of my favorite players.
And I looked over and the bobble head is off
and one of his arms is off and his legs
are broken. Emotional, Yes, but I'm here. I'm here today.

(37:23):
This is one of the great comebacks of all time.
But it was a catastrophe yesterday. Marvin felt bad ish,
I think.

Speaker 8 (37:33):
Oh no, no, I legit felt bad. If I didn't
feel bad, Oh, you would know. I didn't feel bad.
I felt bad about it.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
Okay, but I ask Weeks, our cameraman, our mister do
it all. He's the glue guy for the show. He's
literally the glue guy. And if you're watching on Peacock,
I brought Bill back to life.

Speaker 5 (37:55):
Well, Weeks did.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
So we got the arm back together, the legs are
secure ish, and the Bill Walton bobblehead doll is back
in business. I sent Marvin a picture last night because
I came in. I said, I got to get this
thing glued. It's it's it's gonna be coming back to life.

(38:17):
I sent Marvin just a picture of the Bill Walton
bobblehead doll.

Speaker 5 (38:20):
I had no response to it.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
There was nothing other than the picture there, and I
sent it message sent loud and clear, Marvin.

Speaker 8 (38:29):
Hey, I'm really I'm legit sorry about it. I really
felt bad about.

Speaker 5 (38:32):
It, Okay, I think they's sincerity there. Yes, Todd, wouldn't
it be.

Speaker 6 (38:39):
More realistic not to fix it because he always had
bad feet, so maybe we should.

Speaker 5 (38:43):
Man, it was way too soon, way too soon.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
And I'm gonna run you today because I got tired
of you, Like twenty minutes in, I go warning. I'm
gonna give you a warning, all right next time, I'm
I'm going to tee you up two days in a row.

Speaker 5 (39:02):
I'm gonna warn.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
Both benches here, okay, because you were Friday Fritzy way
too early for me.

Speaker 5 (39:09):
Bud uh.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
We've recovered, we rebounded. That's what we do well. We
come back. We rally, Yes we do, Yes, we do.
The Knicks close out the Pistons. Pistons rallied, kept it close,
and then Jalen Brunson did this at the end of
the game.

Speaker 7 (39:28):
Backing down a star top without the logo twenty oft
time left. We're tied at one thirteen. Here in game six,
Brunston between the legs, philbl guts with a Thompson walk.

Speaker 4 (39:37):
Up report up, we got it.

Speaker 5 (39:39):
The Klutch Player of the Year will not be to night.

Speaker 7 (39:42):
Jalen Brunson was four point three puts the list in
front plunk sixteen O one thirteen.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
He ended up with forty. Now I'll praise Jalen Brunson.
He's a wonderful player. We know what he does in
the playoffs. He's averaged thirty points per game in thirty
playoffs games with the Knicks, the only player in the
history of the franchise who's averaged more as Bernard King.
And it was just a tick more. The Pistons did

(40:10):
a really good job with Brunson. But how many times
do I have to say this, The best player is
not going to beat me. He's labeled the most clutch
player in the NBA. They gave him an award that
says that's the most clutched guy in the NBA. There
was an award I get. This might be the first year,

(40:33):
but he certainly earned it. The problem I have is
you must make somebody else beat you. And Thompson did
a wonderful job. He did for the most of the night,
for most of the series, he did a wonderful job.

Speaker 5 (40:48):
The game is on the line, he was forcing.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
Him to go left and maybe he was going to
get a double team there, but he went back. I
got to send two people at him and Brunson gives
up the ball.

Speaker 3 (41:00):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
Can somebody try this, please? That's all. That guy can
beat me. I don't want him to beat me. How
about I send two guys. If og and Nnobe beats me, okay,
if Kat beats me, okay. Jalen Brunson, the most clutch
player in the NBA, is not going to beat me,
that's all. And Kat had just found out found out,

(41:25):
So what are we doing. Send two players at him,
make sure he gives up the ball, and have somebody
who may not be used to being in.

Speaker 5 (41:36):
That situation take the shot.

Speaker 3 (41:39):
That's all.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
I'll go back to when Michael Jordan pushed off against
Brian Russell. I gotta have another guy coming at Mike.
If Steve Kerr John Paxson's situation happens again. In a
situation like that, I can live with that. I'm not
letting the greatest player in the history of the game
go one on one.

Speaker 5 (42:00):
I don't get it.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
The best player will not beat me. I can guarantee
you that that's what we should have said in the huddle.
Brunson will not beat us. Make sure that we're going
to send a double team that way. Now, maybe out
smarts you, maybe he breaks the double team, maybe he
makes his move before you get there. But I'm watching

(42:22):
and I go they got single coverage on him. I
don't care how good you are. If the guy has
labeled the most clutch player in the NBA and they
give you a damn award, don't let him be clutch.

Speaker 5 (42:36):
That's all.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
Congratulations to the Pistons, though they had a late run
there and made it interesting. But the Knicks, they were
able to hit the shot when they needed to. Rockets
at the Warriors Game six coming up, that'll be tonight.
The Rockets are a slight underdog. I think they're around
a four or five point underdog and Clippers and the Nuggets.

(42:58):
The Clippers are a slight favor it.

Speaker 5 (43:00):
In that game. That'll be on Saturday eight seven, seven
to three.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
DP Show email address Dpadanpatrick dot com, Twitter handle at
DP show. JJ Reddick had his exit interview with the media,
and boy, he uh gave them a gift yesterday. I
don't know if he intended to give them a gift,
but when he said this, I certainly had a reaction.

Speaker 13 (43:24):
I'll start with the off season and the work that's
required in an offseason to be in championship shape. And
you know, we have a ways to go as a roster,
and certainly there are individuals that were in phenomenal shape.
There's certainly other ones that could have been in better shape.

(43:46):
That's where my mind goes immediately, is you know we
have to get in championship shape.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
Okay, we use the word work and shape, and then
we used shape championship shape again, that's your opener. And
I went, Okay, who's not in shape? Who wasn't in
championship shape? Not Lebron he's in shape. I'm guessing Austin

(44:13):
Reeves in shape, Ruey Hanchamura in shape?

Speaker 5 (44:17):
Who's not in shape?

Speaker 3 (44:18):
Here?

Speaker 2 (44:19):
Oh that's right, Luca wasn't in shape? Is this calculated?
Was this a good thing to do? If you're Luca,
how are you taking this? You've you know, spent the
first whatever five years of your career listening to somebody
or people say you're out of shape, even though you
go to an NBA finals, you play in the Olympics,

(44:43):
you go to a Western Conference finals, but then you
get traded because you had a GM who didn't want
to invest in you. That kind of money because he
thought defense wins championships and you weren't going to be
in shape.

Speaker 5 (44:57):
Here we are.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
Now, this is where I think if Lebron wants to
win a championship, he can help win a championship in
the off season by being a big brother, mentoring Luca
and say I want you working out with me a
couple of days a week. Now he might go kicking,
screaming and say I don't want to off season is

(45:19):
just that it's the off season. But if you want Lebron,
and Lebron wants to win another championship, the only way
it's going to happen is if Luca truly wants to
get in shape and wants to play defense. Because they
went after him in that series. They targeted him, they
went by him for layups, and I thought that JJ Reddick.

(45:43):
Now the first thing I thought of, does JJ say
that to Luca what he said yesterday? I want you
to be in championship shape. I don't like when a
coach goes to a press conference to say something about
his team unless he's told his team. Then now if
he says to Luca, I'm going to say something, I'm

(46:03):
not going to mention your name, but I want you
to be in championship shape. I've seen that. I know
what championship shape is. I need you to be ready
to go, start to finish. I can't have you out
of shape or not in greade shape and have these
nagging injuries. I can't have that because that's how they
come up, that's how they surface when you're not in shape.

(46:24):
And Luca has nagging injuries. But Luca's been spoiled. Luca
doesn't want to hear negative things. I mean, look how
he reacts to officials when they make a call, fans
get into it with him. I guess JJ knows what
he's doing, but I don't know if message is sent,

(46:46):
how it's received by Luca, because he might be If
I'm Luca, I'd be like, everybody knows you're talking about me,
Like do you have to say that, because it's implied.
He didn't have to say Luca, everybody knew what he
was doing talking about. But that's the message that he
sends his team into the off season at least having
in the back of their minds, or at least Luca

(47:08):
is certainly. But if I'm Lebron, I'd say, hey, work
out with me, work out with me and Bronnie and
give me a couple of days a week.

Speaker 5 (47:19):
Yes, ton I think passive aggressive is the way to go.
I have the confrontation enough to talk to.

Speaker 6 (47:23):
One on one, man to man where you could just
kind of throw it out there in the media let
them figure out what he was talking about.

Speaker 5 (47:28):
Thank you, Tony. All right, what's full question today? Seat
no connor, I'm glad you asked.

Speaker 17 (47:33):
We might as well start with the overwhelmingly you know,
biggest story of the night, the New York Knicks winning
their third NBA championship.

Speaker 15 (47:40):
Gratulations.

Speaker 5 (47:40):
Yeah, last night.

Speaker 17 (47:43):
There's going to be a parade, right, So, the New
York Knicks winning their third NBA championship last night is
a remarkable achievement, crazy since they just advanced out of
the first round, or just another symptom of Knicks fans
being insane.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
Well, there's this celebration outside the garden, I guess, and
I mean, you did beat the Pistons. Pistons had a
good year, they did, but the Knicks were celebrating like
it's nineteen sixty nine. Now they are celebrating, So congratulations
on another championship there. That would be their third championship.

(48:20):
They've won nineteen seventeen champions Yeah, in nineteen seventy, nineteen
seventy three. Congratulations, Yes, Tom.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
Didn't they learn their lesson?

Speaker 6 (48:29):
They had that big celebration when they Beatray Young and
the Hawks.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
Who is dressed in Knicks gear today?

Speaker 6 (48:35):
I am Knicks are my favorite team, not as much
as Rob is in the back, but I like the Knicks.
But I will say that the Knick fans got a
little crazy to knoxious when they knocked out the Hawks
in the first round and they're having like a ticket
tape parade with their shirts up in the middle of Manhattan.

Speaker 8 (48:48):
You don't do that.

Speaker 6 (48:49):
And at Jinx's things.

Speaker 3 (48:50):
I don't.

Speaker 5 (48:50):
Okay, you have your Jalen Bruns and T shirt on.

Speaker 6 (48:52):
I i'ndressed as if I'm going to the parade, and
they won the whole thing. But they they're gonna have
a tough time with Boston. I think we all can
agree with Oh, thank you too. That's my NBA And
nobody knows who.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
Rob in the back is, okays one of I know,
but if you have to explain it to the audience,
I mean this is about you, not somebody else.

Speaker 8 (49:10):
To Fritzy is dressed like one of the guys who
does the T shirt guns like you know, like all right,
time out, all right, come on guys, you guys, come on,
come on. KNX fans get up and top comes out there.

Speaker 3 (49:26):
All right.

Speaker 8 (49:26):
He goes on a trampoline, dunks the ball, or at
least not somebody else.

Speaker 5 (49:31):
Yeah, uh, all ready for this, Yes, so this is
we not they weave.

Speaker 6 (49:38):
Then York Knickerbockers, we got to settle down a little bit.

Speaker 17 (49:40):
We got to wear and tear away Knicks pants and
but they're crazy.

Speaker 5 (49:45):
Do not tear those away.

Speaker 6 (49:47):
At least I may not have an undergarment on.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
Yeah, pantaloons. But congratulations to the New York Knick fans.

Speaker 5 (49:57):
You did it in a long battle there, but you did.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
Age seven to seven three DP show email address Dpadanpatrick
dot com, Twitter handle a DP show and once again,
good morning. If you're watching on peacock, thank you for
downloading the app. David Khane, Yankee broadcaster, will recap what
Aaron Judge did in the first month of the season
historical and it's one of those where you go, wait

(50:22):
a minute, he's batting for twenty seven.

Speaker 5 (50:25):
He's not even using.

Speaker 2 (50:26):
A torpedo bat. By the way, where did the torpedo
bat controversy go? That didn't last long, did it. They
didn't outlaw this, didn't they remember? Oh my god, it's
ruining the sport. And I'm like, not everybody's using the
torpedo bat.
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Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com

On Purpose with Jay Shetty

On Purpose with Jay Shetty

I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!

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