The Best of The Week on The Dan Patrick Show

Dan Patrick chats with Reds Hall of Famer Johnny Bench to get his thoughts on MLB posthumously reinstating Pete Rose from his permanent ban. Dan talks with Mavericks HC Jason Kidd about the future of the franchise without Luka Doncic and with presumptive top pick Cooper Flagg. Plus, Covino & Rich step in for Dan Patrick to finish out the week and preview what should be the greatest sports weekend New York has seen in decades!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
It's bringing Johnny Bench the Hall of Famer. Johnny Great,
see you again. Let me ask you the question, do
you agree with what the Commissioner did yesterday?

Speaker 3 (00:13):
I do. I just I think he's done more work
than you can imagine to try to figure this out.
I think it had to be agreed upon by the
Hall of Fame, though I think that was a question
mark that had to be done. Jane is the person
that's basically, you know, what's the sanctification of the Hall

(00:33):
of Fame and that hopefully all members of the Hall
of Fame, although we know there's been question marks about it,
whether it be peds or whether it be past history
or people that have been elected to the Hall of Fame.
But for the Commissioner, I think he I know personally
that I've talked to him. I know there's others that

(00:54):
have talked to him. I know that he's trying to
get the temperature of what it was. I think the
temperature was mixed. I think I think like the voting
is sixty one percent. I think the percentages were one
way or the other with some Hall of famers. Do
you take a poll of the Hall of Famers, or
you take a poll of the writers, or you take
a poll of just the dan Etz and I think

(01:17):
you're going to wind well. I mean, they're fans, and
they understand what's happened with Pete and with the Black
Sox scandals. I mean the one person I mean, as
you may, as you know Ted Williams was a staunch
supporter of shoeless show Jackson, and they keep saying, well,
there was no evidence against it, and he hit three

(01:39):
something or four hundred, So I guess the feel is
all I can say is it is a perfect time
for this thing to come out because right now as
we prepare for the day, I am not in Cincinnati,
but they are honoring Pete at the stadium. There will
be forty two thousand people coming out and maybe more
now that this announcement has been done. But for the

(02:02):
Rose family, I'm extremely happy for them that it's all
somewhat behind us.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Why wait until Pete dines, Well.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
That's I think that there was some concern that it
would He wanted to get into the game of baseball
as far as what has been talked about. He wanted
to still be a manager or something like that. I
think that created some problems, the fact that whether somebody

(02:34):
would actually hire him at this point or what position
he would be in. And I think there was still okay,
you know, we still have to have a certain caution here.
We got to put up some yellow flags and in
most cases a lot of red flags and make sure
that none of this happens. I really believe it was
a push by so many people. I think the Commissioner's

(02:54):
ruled on it twice. I know Bud Jim Bud Seeley
ruled on it two or three times, and the consensus
was that he was not going to he was permanently banned.
And so I think there's they're cutting hairs a little
bit on whether now that he's deceased.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Now it's okay, you probably know this better than anybody.
How do you think Pete would react today if he
were alive?

Speaker 3 (03:18):
About damn time? What? What took him so long? About
damn time? Uh? No? I think he wanted to, He
wanted to be voted on. I think he felt like
he never had that opportunity and everything else, and I
think that was his one one thing. I think he
always believed that had he been on the ballot that

(03:41):
he would have been voted into the Hall of Fame.
Now what the what the Hall of Fame has not done,
I think is make a space for Pete in the Hall.
And you know, we we honor different groups of baseball players.
We honored catchers, or we honored day, we honor the
heroes and what is baseball and legends and everything else.

(04:04):
I think it's a perfect spot for the Hall of
Fame to in so many ways. And I think you'll
see it in Cincinnati on the board today. I think
they'll highlight all the things and the person that he
was one hundred and forty five pounds, He was not drafted,
he had to be he had to be had at
a scout, which was an uncle to give him a tryout.
Then he winds up being an All Star at five

(04:24):
different positions, then he's you know, he wins the MVP
of the World Series. These are all things that you
can honor him with and praise him for. And I
think I heard Mike Smith talking about the fact that
and and the other players on MLB talking about the
fact that they were they wanted to be like Pete,

(04:45):
they wanted to play like Pete. They wanted to hit
first slide, they wanted to do all things he was.
He was a persona case personification of hustle and attitude
and love for the game of baseball. And the rules
are the rules, but for Pete, he I think he
should be honored at the Hall of Fame just with video,

(05:05):
but you also tell the story of why and while
why this happened, and what the ramifications are.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
I think the immediate reaction from a lot of people
was Pete's going to get into the Hall of Fame.
And I've cautioned my audience to say, they're not going
to vote on this till December of twenty twenty seven.
And there's other guys on that ballot like Steve Garby
and Louis Tiant and you know some really good players
Shoeless Joe Jackson's going to be on there as well.

(05:32):
So it's not a foregone conclusion Pete gets in or
even gets on the ballot. But you know it's going
to be a process here, and people.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
Should I think we can. I think we can assume
that his name will be there. I think they there's
going to be the need for that to happen. But
I think there's you know, there's you know, there's guys.
You know they've been on Some of these guys have
been on the ballot for twenty years. I mean, you know,
they keep thinking, or they'll think, and you know, famous
is we're of Frank Robinson and Bob Feller and this

(06:03):
isn't for the good, this is for the great and
so and that is exactly the way it was framed.
And so here here we are at this point saying, okay,
you we know Pete Rose great good gosh, he's forty
two hundred and fifty six hits, you know, and you
know all the teams that he helped in all the
World Series. We know it's there. But I think that

(06:24):
would be the ultimate honor. But again, you're, okay, we're
going to take twelve or sixteen guys. We're gonna take
four owners, we're gonna take four media, and we're gonna
take eight players, and we're gonna have to get twelve votes.
And you know, Marvin Miller didn't make it in Forever
because the owners were never going to vote for him

(06:46):
because they felt like during the drug situation he could
have controlled that better, and yet he had to allow
players to get off of the drugs before they contest them,
and that's why it took long then. And you can
also say that Sosa and the Peds and Maguire saved
the game of baseball. All of these things are suppositions.
All these things are not proven, but all these things
are true. And so now you got to get twelve

(07:08):
guys to go to sixteen guys to go into a room,
and you got to have twelve.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
Yeses talking to Johnny Bench, the Hall of Famer. Do
you think Pete Bett as a baseball player on baseball?

Speaker 3 (07:22):
I don't have that knowledge. I'm for me to say yes,
I think that that would be a little I can't
say for sure because I don't have any evidence of that.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
Yeah, I just maintain And once again, Pete and I
shared a bookie growing up when Pete was Pete Rose.
You know, I went through a bookie that he used.
So I never knew anything about Pete betting as a player.
But I don't think you start betting as a manager.
And I like, right, let's be fair to the situation here,

(07:56):
because everybody said, well, he bet as a manager and
he bet on his team to win. I think there's
more information there that hasn't did he did?

Speaker 3 (08:05):
He bet on them every game to win.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
He told me a couple of years ago, first time
he ever admitted that he bet on the Reds to win. Now,
I I was under the impression and he was betting
on them to win every night.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
All right, Well, so Dan, you you're you're standing beside him,
and here you're listening to him calling his bookie, and
he says, I want the Reds, the Indians and the Braids.
You stand by him. The next night he wants the Reds,
the Yankees and the Dodgers. And the next night he says,
I want the Pirates, the Cubs and the Yankees. You
don't like the Reds tonight, Okay's going to be calling.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
The book But Johnny, I was told by somebody who
would know there were certain pictures that Pete didn't want
to bet on to win games for the Reds.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
Okay, So I had a lot of conversations. Did you
have a private line?

Speaker 2 (09:02):
I had too many conversations. But I would know during
hockey season or football season who Pete was betting on
through my bookie. Who took you know, some of the
off bets from the main bookie who lived in Indian
Hills and that Pete went through, so I was I
was kind of privy to this. I get to ESPN,

(09:23):
I walk in first month, I'm there, the Pete Rose
scandal breaks. I call my former bookie. I'm like, I
need some information here, and my bookie's like, no names.
I said, no, just give me the information, and he did.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
Well, it's like gambling becomes yours. Like it's like you
you know, this is the story. I'll just use you
as an example. You bet on every baseball game, you
bet on every football game, and you bet on every
football basketball game, and you lose every bet. So you
call your bookie an Indian Hill and say, I'm quitting,
I am done with betting, I am not going to
bet anymore. And but then he'll say, well, what about hockey.

(10:03):
It's just coming up. And you'll say, what do I.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
Know about hockey? Well, Pete had that satellite dish outside
his house, so he would dial up all of these
He'd be watching Vancouver Canucks and betting hockey.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
Oh I can still remember, well, yeah, I mean he
got a tip. You know, somebody gave you a good tell.
You back in the seventy three or four. I we're
up at uh we're having an event with Bob Hopeing.
You know, my buddy who is has a has a
likes to bet, and he's watching the baskets and he
and if you know, the game's coming on, he's watching
football and he's the games come on, says he think
I get be armed with. Mister hoped if I I

(10:40):
watched the game, I said, well, I'm not turning it's
on my TV. I mean, is this sweet here? You're
going to have to do that? And he said, you know,
just Hope do you uh? Do you like football? Of
course he had his book open to whatever his bets were,
and Bob said.

Speaker 4 (10:53):
Oh yeah, turn it on.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
Let's see what this. I got four of them. I
got four puns on this guy. I think everybody's probably
he had a bet at one time or the other.
Have you I have? You know? I somebody said if
you'll better want every home favorite, you'll win. So I
tried it for about six games. You know I would

(11:18):
I couldn't you know if I you know, I said, no,
it's not my it's not my ideal. I'm not lucky
at gambling.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
And I love my money, Moore, would you rather have
Otani or Judge on your team right now?

Speaker 3 (11:36):
I would say Otani just because the fact that I
could get him to pitch it one time or the other,
that would be the backup thing. I mean right now, Judges,
you know what he is. I mean, he's awesome. I mean,
I just I just love his approach, his love is.
You know, he's got such reach, he's got such patience.

(11:56):
He's the kind of guy that doesn't have to hit
the ball out of the ballpark because everybody wants him
to hit altball out of the ballpark. He's going the
other way. They're pitching him so many different ways. He's
got such a great, great discipline up there. But Otani,
you know, you watch him flail away. You don't see
you know, you don't see Aaron Judge do that. You
just don't see that flailing away and missing and everything else.

(12:19):
And but yeah, for stolen bases, which Judge can do,
the only only caveat for me would be the fact
that I could put Otani into pitch.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
Is there a sound of a home run that still
resonates with you whether you hit it or you were
behind the plate and somebody hit it.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
Well, there's two now that you mentioned. Now was there
was two? Come to mind. One was in the All
Star Game and we were in Griffiths Stadium in DC
and Steve Carlton was pitching at Frank Howard. You know,
big Frank Howard. Take what eight about that pacent? You know,
I'm just from big and strong. But I just made contact.
Hill I probably hit a hundred home runs and he

(12:59):
can the plate and Steve threw him a fastball. It
went right past Steve's head and went over the center
field fence and bounced off the concrete and he crossed
home plates. You know see what I mean. I just
make contact is all I did. But the other, of course,
was the home run I hit against the Pirates in

(13:21):
seventy two to tie the game of the night. And
I don't know if it's the sound or it's the echo,
because I would walk in Riverfront Stadium and you know,
al Michael's just doing a documentary thing and I was
repeating the fact that the one in two, the bench
change it in the air and the deep right field
back goes climbing into the walls. She's gone. And I

(13:44):
would hear that every time I don't know why I
stepped in the stadium.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
Was that off Dave Justin? Uh?

Speaker 3 (13:51):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I remember Ron Santo coming here
playing golf. He walks in, what's the gore two to one?
The Pirates are three to two of the pirates, and
he said games over. When they said Jesse was in
because you couldn't hit him with the boat door, I mean,
he was just he was nasty and it just happened
to be for me.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
But when Reggie Jackson hit the light tower in Tiger
Stadium at the All Star Game, was that a sound.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
Like that?

Speaker 2 (14:16):
You remember? I mean that that's one of God?

Speaker 3 (14:18):
Do I remember I'm sitting all right the best view
of all I mean, I knew the beadle and the
long table. I mean I was the one that had
all of this stuff down, you know, and you know,
and I always tell Reggie because Reggie, you know, Reggie
likes the swagger part.

Speaker 4 (14:31):
I said.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
What you don't understand is Reggie, my ball, my home
run went farther and yours. Did I hit it up
in right center field in the in the US, in
the up in center field, right center field going out
to and of course we have our things with it
and everything else, but Reggie was the beauty. But god,
oh my gosh. I mean we just stood there and
looked at it, like, where in the hell is this

(14:54):
going to go? You couldn't imagine it would hit those
light standards up there. I mean, that is It's one
of the kind. And it was a special moment because
I mean, think about that All Star game. How many
thirty thirty some guys from the Hall of Fame we're
in there. How you doing? What's the green for it?

Speaker 2 (15:12):
I mean, let's ask misted by about six weeks, eight
weeks that's Adam Sandler sent this to me for Happy Gilmore.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
What position? Oh, he's a yeah, I've seen your game.
I played with you. Actually, yeah, it's close.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
To Happy Gilmore.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
Are you happy?

Speaker 2 (15:36):
Great to talk to you, man always, Thank you. Thanks
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Speaker 4 (16:50):
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Speaker 2 (16:51):
Rich joining us now Hall of Famer Jason Kidd, mAb's
head coach and won an NBA championship with the MAVs
back twenty eleven two time Olympic gold medalist. We were
just wondering, where do you rank on the all time
assist list. Let's go around the room and guess where
is Jay Kidd on the all time list?

Speaker 4 (17:11):
There?

Speaker 2 (17:11):
Todd third, third, Okay Seaton two, Marvin third, Paul two.
I'm gonna go four. Where is Jake Kid on the
all time assist list?

Speaker 4 (17:27):
Stock number one?

Speaker 7 (17:28):
Chris Paul new number two spot, Jason Kidd in a
three spot, Lebron James on his heels?

Speaker 2 (17:36):
Is Lebron going to catch Jay Kidd?

Speaker 4 (17:38):
He's got five hundred and eight to go.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
Man, you're getting kicked. You're getting kicked down here? Man,
how are you doing?

Speaker 8 (17:46):
I'm doing great, Dan, I'm doing great. Yes, that happens.
I didn't play long enough.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
Best passer though, in the history of the game, is
who not who had the most assists? Best passer passer?

Speaker 9 (18:01):
I'm going to go with Stockton.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
Why is then?

Speaker 8 (18:06):
I think you know the bounce pass. He had, big hands,
could take it off, the dribble, could pause with it.
Some would say it's maybe double.

Speaker 9 (18:15):
Dribble, but.

Speaker 8 (18:18):
I think he knew how to manipulate the ball off
the dribble and being able to find his target, and
he had some pretty good targets.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
Okay, but when did carrying become legal in the NBA.

Speaker 8 (18:31):
In nineteen sixty sixty. Well, it's always been a part
of the game.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
Well no, no, like now it's just you can have
your hand on the bottom of the ball and then
go Was it Iverson who started it?

Speaker 9 (18:47):
I don't think it was Iverson. I think it's the
guy we were.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
Just talking about. Was the first guy to carry the ball.

Speaker 8 (18:53):
I think if you look at Stockton, he knew how
to manipulate the dribble.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
Was he dirty?

Speaker 9 (19:01):
He was smart?

Speaker 2 (19:06):
Where were you on Lottery night?

Speaker 9 (19:09):
Lottery Night?

Speaker 8 (19:10):
I was in Newport Beach at a board meeting for
Gold Rental and I thought, okay, well we're going to
probably fall backwards instead of going forward. So my phone
started to go crazy during the meeting, and I kept
texting the person back saying are you sure it's not

(19:31):
you're missing a one? Because he goes, you're in the
top four and I mean fourteen, and he goes no,
and he goes, I think you just got one. I go,
you mean we stayed at eleven, and then my phone
started going crazy.

Speaker 9 (19:44):
So that's where I was.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
Wait, you're not even watching the lottery.

Speaker 9 (19:49):
I you know, things just weren't going well for us.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
Really, what else has happened this year?

Speaker 8 (19:58):
A lot of injuries, but I just felt, you know,
we were going to stay around eleven, if not go backwards,
just the way that things were going for us this year.
But incredible to get number one. Everyone's excited, the organization,
the city, the MAVs fans, and also the head coach.

(20:19):
So we're really excited about being number one.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
Planning on keeping the pick and taking Cooper Flag.

Speaker 8 (20:26):
Yes, I'm just the coach, So yes, I would say
that we're all concentrating on number one. The draft is
deep and so, but as the name you just brought up,
I think we're all focused.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
On Have you spoken to Cooper Flag?

Speaker 8 (20:41):
I have not spoken to Cooper Flag. I don't want
to break any of the rules get us in trouble,
so I want to make sure that when I do
answer these questions that you know the speculation is Cooper Flag.

Speaker 9 (20:54):
But there's you know, we got to go through the process.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
Okay, So you would get in trouble if you did
reach out to Cooper Flag before the draft.

Speaker 8 (21:03):
Yeah, well no, not technically. Once we bring him in,
we'll get out.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
You're not allowed to say his name.

Speaker 9 (21:10):
I would.

Speaker 8 (21:10):
I'm trying to be politically correct here and make sure
that we don't get in trouble and I don't step
on any toes.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
OK So the kid from Duke there we go.

Speaker 4 (21:19):
Are you are?

Speaker 9 (21:21):
You're excited. We're excited.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
I don't want to get you fined. Okay, thank you,
thank you.

Speaker 8 (21:28):
I can't afford the fine. And so we're excited about
the kid at Duke. I can't wait to talk to
the coach over there, Coach Shire and also a good
friend of mine, coach k a mentor, and get some
background on the on the kid at Duke.

Speaker 9 (21:46):
We're really excited about this opportunity.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
You were twenty one as a rookie. I can't imagine
what nineteen is going to be like for the kid
from Duke. How is that different or has the game
made it easier for that transition for somebody that young.

Speaker 8 (22:03):
No, I don't know if it's easier. I think eighteen
he's going to be drafted, he'll be eighteen. He doesn't
turn nineteen until December and so just understanding he's young,
but he's very talented, can play both ends, and so
being able to have older players and when I say

(22:24):
that out of respect, they're not dinosaurs. But when you
look at the age of thirty kai ad guys that
are here, Clay can definitely help him with the process
of going through a rookie season.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
And the kid from Duke doesn't have to walk in
and be the savior like he probably would have been
in Washington, DC or maybe Charlotte, that you can kind
of ease him in to being a third or fourth
option on the team.

Speaker 8 (22:50):
Yeah, I think this is a great situation for him.
I think when you talk about the different guys that
we have already on the team, the pressure of living
up to number one will be a lot easier with
the talent around him. When you talk about the other clubs,
he would have to, you know, produce right away at

(23:11):
a high, high level. And so I think this is
a great situation for him to grow his game where
the pressure isn't as high, but we are playing for
a championship and so it would be a lot of fun.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
Jason Kidd, Hall of Famer Mavericks head coach, how were
you told that you had just traded Luca.

Speaker 8 (23:33):
I was told by my boss Nico that we were
going to make a change.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
But where where give me the give me this scenario hotel?

Speaker 8 (23:41):
This is in the hotel in Cleveland. And so he
said the news was going to hit in an hour
and and that's how it went down. And so when
he told me, I started. I went back to my
room to start figuring out how we're going to use
a D and Christy because of this change.

Speaker 9 (24:00):
And so so.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
You found out you didn't even get a chance to argue.

Speaker 8 (24:04):
No, there was there's no arguing. This is this is
what was going to take place. And so for me,
it's to to move forward from past experiences as a player.
I've been traded the day after Christmas, I think from
Dallas to Phoenix and thinking they were trading uh, Jimmy
or Jamal and they told me that they were trading

(24:26):
me and so and so just understanding that the train
keeps moving. And I thought my players and my coaching
staff did an incredible job with you know, once they
heard the news of preparing to keep moving forward and
and especially with all the trade and the injuries, I
thought we did an incredible job.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
When's the last time you spoke to Luca?

Speaker 8 (24:50):
I texted him on that morning. Uh, and that's the
last time I've talked to him.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
How did he respond to your text?

Speaker 8 (24:58):
I don't think he was too happy, and just again
from the experience of being traded, you know, maybe being surprised,
you know, upset, feelings are high. But again, I loved
the opportunity of coaching Luca. He's an incredible person and
we all know his talent is one of the best
in the world. And so you know, again my mindset

(25:20):
is to deal with the cars that I'm dealt and
and keep pushing forward. And I've always said this publicly
and probably I wish Luca the best. He's one of
the best players in the world.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
I thought you were going to say that you meet
with Nico in his hotel room, he tells you he's
trading Luca, and then you go back to your hotel
room and cry. But but but that didn't happen, right.

Speaker 8 (25:41):
I didn't cry. I was more or less trying to
figure out how we're going to make this thing work.
You know, this is a big trade.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
But who do you call first? After Nico tells you
that you're trading Luca.

Speaker 8 (25:57):
I didn't call anybody. I put my phone down and
looked at the ceiling as started trying to brainstorm of
how this is going to go down. I did not
call anybody once this hit, and my my job as
the coaches is to make sure that we all are
pushing in the right direction. There was gonna be a

(26:19):
lot of questions that morning from staff and players, and
I thought Nico did a great job of handling it
by having the meeting and for us pushing forward.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
Anybody have a better handle than Kyrie in that in
NBA history.

Speaker 8 (26:34):
Oh, I'm gonna say no, But I'm gonna say there's
some close seconds when you talk about Isaiah Thomas Detroit, Isaiah.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
Thomas underrated by the way.

Speaker 9 (26:48):
Oh, very underrated, very underrated.

Speaker 8 (26:51):
Why I think sometimes it's it's our fault we don't
we don't bring up Isaiah Jay Williams white Chocolate. I
thought his handle and his passing is incredible storytelling. I
don't know if we don't do a good, good enough

(27:12):
job of storytelling with Isaiah or our past players, and
so I think Isaiah would be right there as one b.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
Yeah, but I think with Isaiah likability. The way they played,
they were the bad boys. You know, they were trying
to hurt Jordan, and I think that maybe that plays
into it with Isaiah.

Speaker 9 (27:35):
Well, I don't know if they were just trying to
hurt Jordan.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
They were trying to hurt everybody. But if the Pistons
don't treat Michael that way, Michael doesn't start weightlifting, and
like that made Michael even greater. They're responsible for unleashing,
you know, the new and improved Michael Jordan.

Speaker 9 (27:55):
Yeah, I think.

Speaker 8 (27:56):
You know, sometimes when we look at things that take
place in our league, uh, some are looked upon as negatives,
but a lot of players or coaches use them as
positives and try to turn it into something. And as
you said, Unleasha's the beast and Michael and he took
that and ran with it, got stronger. His game was,

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his talent was already elite, and so I think he
used as motivation to become the best in the world.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
Do you remember facing him the first time? Yes, oh
what happened?

Speaker 3 (28:32):
Now?

Speaker 8 (28:32):
It was actually nice. He was nice to me. I'll
never forget I ended up on him. Unfortunately, I didn't
know how the switch happened. But he has me in
the post and all I can think about is just
turn around and fade away and keep it simple and nice.
But he went baseline and he took off, and unfortunately

(28:53):
my wife I didn't. I missed it, and I was like, oh,
this is going to be on ESPN H and he's
gonna do and look and you know, do what he does.

Speaker 9 (29:02):
But he just did a.

Speaker 8 (29:03):
Nice little reverse layup and looked and kind of winked,
and I say, oh, man, I'm glad he'd dunk it.

Speaker 9 (29:10):
But he took it easy on me.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
But why did you realize he was better than you?

Speaker 9 (29:15):
Oh before tip off?

Speaker 2 (29:18):
Well, you know, you guys have egos. I mean, like
Larry Bird had to get to a point where he said,
you know what, he's the best player in the game.
My magic had to you. Guys, are you know, pretty
tough when you're going to relinquish something like that.

Speaker 8 (29:31):
Yeah, But I think we all understood when we we
have to be realistic, Uh, understanding Michael is the best
and so coming in as a rookie, you know you
wanted that challenge. He wanted to compete against the best,
but understanding he was going to win the majority of
those battles.

Speaker 9 (29:49):
And and he did, and and.

Speaker 8 (29:51):
So you couldn't wait for that game to be over
so that you can go plays that you can take
and stuff.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
Maybe they'll write a book on this year for the
Dallas Mavericks one day, just this year of everything that's happened,
because it's hard to believe, right.

Speaker 9 (30:08):
Yeah, I think you're right. I think there's someone's going
to write a book.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
Or thirty for thirty on ESPN.

Speaker 9 (30:17):
It could be a thirty for thirty for sure.

Speaker 8 (30:19):
There's enough content, you know there when you talk about
just there was in you know, a season within a season,
and there's maybe three seasons just with the trade and
with all the injuries that we had, trying to keep
you know, pushing forward and finding a way into the
playing game and winning one and unfortunately coming up short

(30:40):
against Memphis, but just everything that took place. I think
there is a book there and then probably a thirty
for thirty.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
Good to talk to you again, Thanks for joining us.

Speaker 9 (30:50):
Happy birthday, Thank you, thank you. Look great man.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
What did you get me?

Speaker 9 (30:57):
Well?

Speaker 8 (30:57):
I was going to say a jump shot, but you
already believe that you shoot, So.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
Now we don't we don't want to go down the road,
do we? We don't want to go down memory lane?
Because do we?

Speaker 4 (31:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (31:09):
Why not? It's your birthday? You you.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
I go to Dallas to shoot against you, right, Yes,
I come to down. I fly to Dallas to play
you know you in a game of horse.

Speaker 9 (31:20):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
And what happened after practice? Who went home and left
me there out shooting by myself?

Speaker 4 (31:29):
You did well?

Speaker 9 (31:31):
You I forfeited, so you are?

Speaker 2 (31:33):
Okay? Yeah? And then all of a sudden, who becomes
a great three point shooter?

Speaker 4 (31:38):
You do?

Speaker 8 (31:40):
Yeah, you turned me into a great three point shooter.
So you get credit. I'm giving you credit. Where's doing?
You turned me into a three point shooter?

Speaker 2 (31:47):
You're welcome. You're welcome. You're welcome. You're welcome. So I
don't need a jump shot. We know that.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
You know?

Speaker 9 (31:55):
Maybe what hutter driver?

Speaker 2 (32:00):
How about this? How about a autograph jersey from the
kid from Duke Oh done? Okay, here we go easy,
just making dreams come true? Thank you, bud him. That's
Jason Kidd, Hall of Famer. Yeah, I told you guys
the story here, I told you the story. I went

(32:23):
to Dallas. We had a great relationship, and I said
I will beat you in a shooting contest. And I'm
there in the stands waiting for practice to end, and
I'm waiting it ends, and I'm going, where's Jason? The
clubhouse guy goes, Oh, he left, and I go he left,

(32:46):
and he admitted he didn't he knew that I could
shoot there. He is right there. He just came back.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
He wants he knows it's true. He knows it's true.
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show nine am Eastern, six am Pacific on Fox
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Speaker 5 (33:05):
Wapp ooh ooh, ooh it's us, it really is. And
not only that. Look at those dance moves from Iowa Sam.
He's up and at him.

Speaker 4 (33:17):
Look at that guy. It's too early for that. How
does he have the energy.

Speaker 6 (33:21):
To put a perspective for people that don't know Fox
Sports Radio employee IOA Sam, who's all over the place
running the board today. He has the mannerisms of a
young Conan O'Brien, Yes, yes, which is great, and the
looks of a young Will Ferrell or something.

Speaker 4 (33:37):
I don't know what's going on. That's high compliments. Yeah,
he's got an afro going on. I can tell you that,
and I love him.

Speaker 5 (33:42):
And my favorite story about Iowa Sam, who's playing the
xylophone so masterfully so early in the morning dancing, is
that he recently told us his confirmation name, which is
sort of like his middle name he goes by.

Speaker 4 (33:54):
Is Javier. Javier there he is. That's the best Javier Sam.
What you don't know about me?

Speaker 2 (34:01):
Of course?

Speaker 5 (34:02):
Again, Kaino, that is rich. We're in for the great
Dan Patrick. Always a pleasure. And Bri is on the phones.
What's up?

Speaker 4 (34:10):
Are you holding it down? It's great to see Brie.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
What at the light?

Speaker 4 (34:13):
I know?

Speaker 5 (34:13):
I mean, we love our producer Danny G and all,
but Bri, you don't smell like boloney and coffee.

Speaker 4 (34:20):
Just kidding.

Speaker 5 (34:20):
Plus Danny G's like you, I smell fantastic and he
does the number eight seven seven ninety nine. On Fox
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(34:44):
get to today.

Speaker 6 (34:45):
Oh no, We're gonna tell Cowboys and uh Man, Fox
might not love the Cowboys as much as you think there,
says oh NFL News.

Speaker 4 (34:55):
It says me, we'll get to that, man. I gotta
talk about your yank.

Speaker 5 (35:00):
I've never seen a fan base sweat a player that
was on their team for one year.

Speaker 4 (35:06):
Get off of Juan Sotos wavos.

Speaker 5 (35:08):
Everybody needs something to rally around, and he's the target.
Tonight gonna be an action pack day for New York.
Of course, the Knicks play tonight. But speaking of basketball,
I hope you had a Denver Nuggets sort of night,
a Jokic sort of night. Looks like they're back in action.
Got the thunder up against the wall now, So I

(35:29):
hope you're enjoying some great basketball. We got some great
baseball going on this weekend. Super pump that is Friday.
Super pumped to be here in for Dan Patrick. Now
while you're still in your car and on your way
to work or whatever on this glorious Friday. Remember we're
on Monday through Friday anyway, all the time nation wide,

(35:50):
like the warehouse. We're nationwide two to four on the West,
five to seven on the East, Monday through Friday. But
when they say hey, DP needs you where you're always
fun to hang out with.

Speaker 4 (36:01):
You guys.

Speaker 6 (36:01):
Now, we got to talk about what's going on tonight
because I think I think forget that. Hell, I know,
tonight is the biggest event that's happening at Madison Square
Garden in the twenty first century. I know you might
think that sounds crazy, but I'll explain a second. But
before we get into Nick Celtics tonight, which is a
big deal, big story, I gotta ask you, like the

(36:23):
most immature, dumb question please, And it's a fun question
because I was talking about this with one of the
dads for my kids little league team yesterday. If you
were watching the Thunder and the Nuggies, Jamal Murray going
off twenty five points and he was sick, not feeling well.
You know, sometimes big game players come up in big spots,

(36:45):
especially when they're not feeling so hot.

Speaker 5 (36:48):
Right, kind of how I feel today. It's a big day.
We're filling in and I feel a little out of it,
you know what. I because I'm sick because I stuffed
my face yesterday. So I'm like, oh many meet the
mass over and used and waking up so early. My
bathroom schedules off. So I'm really like, oh, don't tell
us that, but yeah, man, oh, I ate so much

(37:10):
like a slob yesterday that I'm not feeling that great
right now. I have the same thing, right. A relatively
immature question for you, but.

Speaker 6 (37:19):
Listen, when you play at an NBA level, a Major
League Baseball level, at NFL level, you're always trying to
get the edge, right, like everyone, that's a big thing
in sports.

Speaker 4 (37:28):
You're trying to get the edge, any advantage, right right.

Speaker 6 (37:31):
You've heard there's players who got stinkys in the NFL
because they you know, they want people to get away
from me.

Speaker 5 (37:39):
Yeah, any advantage, any edge. So competitive the most competitive
people on the planet.

Speaker 6 (37:46):
So if you're a sick Jamal Murray, do you breathe
a little bit on SGA like.

Speaker 4 (37:56):
Maybe thinking like if I have a little twenty four
the Last of Us, like the Last of Us? If
you watch The Last of Us.

Speaker 6 (38:03):
I'm just picturing those deadly green spores when she's in
that elevator bank.

Speaker 5 (38:07):
You know, it is a really dumb question. I'm glad
you prefaced it, but I wouldn't put it past them.

Speaker 4 (38:12):
Dude.

Speaker 5 (38:13):
If the ninest level we're talking of the most competitive
people on Earth, and I wouldn't be surprised that it
happens in regular life because some people are just that competitive.
Like if Jonas was like I really want to bring
down cn R, I hate those guys. You know, you'd
be rubbing his germs all over the microphones.

Speaker 4 (38:31):
I don't know how that works, you.

Speaker 5 (38:32):
Know, but we love Jonas and we love everybody here luckily,
but you never know, Yeah, find out he rubbed his
cheeks on your mic. People are vengeful. They didn't Mike
who runs his place? They'd like, never leave your tooth
brush around people you don't know, or something weird like that,
who runs his place?

Speaker 6 (38:47):
My point, My point is simple. It might soundly mature,
but when one of us are sick, you or our
video guy spots the first, Oh, don't breathe on.

Speaker 4 (38:58):
Me, cor I mean COVID changed the game.

Speaker 5 (39:02):
Yeah, well, I'm saying he can bring up that dirty
word that ruined four years of our life. I think
that if regular people are eye rolling about, like stay away,
don't come to work, if you're feeling sick and you
have a game seven and forty eight hours, you don't

(39:22):
think it's a wild thought to be like maybe I'll
breathe a little extra on SGA. If I have a
twenty four to forty eight hour little thing going on,
maybe I'll give it to them. If I was a
betting man, and I'm not really, I'm just more of
a cheapskate. I like the action. I would say, no
one had this conversation at all. That's my guess because

(39:43):
I think of these that I put it past people
in history and in the past, and hasn't been done before.
As your favorite group, The Bear Naked Lady said, Rich,
it's all been done. I'm sure it has been done before.
It's all man, and I'm sure it's been done in
real life like sabotage. You think you think these guys
are above sabotage. I mean people are trying to all y'all,

(40:04):
people are sabotage.

Speaker 6 (40:05):
People are in the middle of a you know, a
pylon in the NFL, and they're you know, grabbing junk
and punching guys.

Speaker 5 (40:11):
You know, I doubt this happened, but the thought is
not as outrageous and goofy as you think. I bet
it's happened before because people are looking for that edge
like you described and sabotage and want to take people down.
And it might be someone at the office, might be
someone at the warehouse, might be someone at the oil patch.
Wherever you are, and you're trying to get ahead of

(40:33):
that guy, the sales dude, you might have done something
sneaky and creepy actually to.

Speaker 4 (40:39):
Bring him down.

Speaker 5 (40:40):
And when you're this competitive, I don't think it's impossible.

Speaker 4 (40:43):
Rich, It's improbable that it happened.

Speaker 5 (40:47):
Isn't it The plotlight of every dumb comedy, Like the
bad guy tries to get in the way of the
good guy, like, Oh, he's stuck in traffic, or oh,
don't let him get to the conference. I'm just saying,
it's not want to drink. There's not something crazy, it's
not wild thought.

Speaker 4 (41:00):
But hey, last night.

Speaker 5 (41:02):
Do you think that anybody to piggyback your dumb thought here?
Do you think anybody on the flip side is like
I wish he wasn't playing because their health is a concern,
or we passed that kind of like the Jordan Fleu game.
No one was really like Jordan's stay away. I'm just saying,
yesterday was a biggie. We talked about it.

Speaker 6 (41:24):
I'm never the guy, that's like told yoursel But okayse
was favored by six yesterday and I remember saying, like,
not so fast.

Speaker 4 (41:32):
This game is in Denver. I know, OKC.

Speaker 5 (41:34):
Yesterday in Vegas they were still the odds on favorite
to win the NBA title.

Speaker 4 (41:39):
I don't know what that looks like today. I know.

Speaker 6 (41:43):
The Nicks and the Tea Wolves are but were both
plus six hundred. But yesterday they had, okay, see at
minus one forty. I think when you go to a
game seven, those odds have been adjusted. But forget that series.
Let's go to New York City tonight.

Speaker 5 (41:57):
Well you know who I wouldn't put this passed by
the way to wrap up your previous thought, Rudy Gobert,
because I think he's yet to get everybody with his germs.

Speaker 4 (42:04):
Yeah, he is the guy that spread COVID if you
remember that's true.

Speaker 5 (42:08):
Hey, Brie, I was saying, but my crazy is I mean,
you could look me in the eyes and say it's
a dumb thought, but you don't think players are trying
to get the edge.

Speaker 4 (42:15):
It is, but it's not impossible.

Speaker 7 (42:18):
Seems like too much biomedical, Like you get the timing
of it. You know it's not gonna play out the
way you want. Probably you're like, I'm gonna cough on
this guy in game one. In my game three, he'll
be ill and he'll be missing the game.

Speaker 6 (42:31):
You've heard times where it's like, yeah, the clubhouse, like
half the team's you know, not feeling well. You've heard
that in sports, like something goes through the locker room
or clubhouse.

Speaker 5 (42:39):
I heard that, Bree, you wanted to produce our show
for Dan Patrick on this main stage show. She's the
one that got Danny g sick today on purpose and
it started like two days ago. Yeah, she set him
up for it. It's not impossible, it's improbable. So funny
thought though, because people are willing to take all sorts
of risks for that edge.

Speaker 4 (43:01):
No doubt.

Speaker 6 (43:01):
So let's go to tonight Madison Square Garden. The Knicks
cannot under any circumstances. Let this series go back to
Boston for a Game seven. And I can only compare
it to you know, I'm a Mets fan from New York,
but I'm gonna go back to when I was a
little boy, when I was my kid's age, when when
I was For the record, he's just a man boy

(43:23):
right now.

Speaker 4 (43:24):
Yea. Now I'm a man boy. Now he's a grown
man boy.

Speaker 5 (43:26):
My daughter often asked me, Dad, when was the last
time the Mets won the championship? And I reluctantly say,
you know, your little brother who's five six years old.
When I was his age, that's when the Mets won
nineteen eighty six. I was in kindergarten.

Speaker 6 (43:44):
But I do remember, just from the highlights and knowledge,
the Mets were playing the Astros in the NLCS, and
that was the year Mike Scott was untouchable.

Speaker 4 (43:54):
This is the Kevin bass on that squad. Was on
that squad.

Speaker 5 (43:57):
Oh do you remember there were speculation he knows Mike
Scott scuffing the ball like he's unhittable.

Speaker 4 (44:05):
I do.

Speaker 6 (44:06):
The Mets were gonna have to face him in game seven. Squad, Yeah,
that was a big squad man. That Astros team was good,
but they were gonna have to face Mike Scott in
a game seven. So when they were in extra innings
in Game six, there was a pressure of like, yo,
you gotta win now, Mets, because if you face Mike

(44:28):
Scott in game seven, I don't know if you could
beat him. And I feel that way tonight about the
New York Knicks. If you want to talk New York
Sports out. My buddy's already reached out to me. Got
a few East Coast friends out here in LA and
I'm like, dude, what are we doing for the game tonight?
I'm like, well, I'm waking up really for you, Dan Patrick,
So I might be taking a nap later, but yeah,
we got to get together, got.

Speaker 4 (44:47):
To do something. So much on the line.

Speaker 5 (44:49):
Might be the biggest night in a long time for
New York sports with the Yankees, Mets going on tonight
and of course the Knicks. But Rich, I think what
brings the Celtics closer together, why they're so scary is
because they don't They don't.

Speaker 4 (45:06):
Have Jason Tatum, and I feel.

Speaker 5 (45:08):
That forces everybody to step up and play harder, and
they have a chip on their shoulder as a result.
I'll give you a work analogy. Let's say it's the
Covino and Rich Show. We've been doing this forever, Covino
and Rich here on Fox Sports Radio for plus years, right,
but we've been working together. If Rich out of nowhere

(45:29):
is a caveno, I can't make it. It's not that
there's extra pressure on me. But I know, deep down, subconsciously, well,
Rich isn't here, now, I really got to bring it.

Speaker 4 (45:41):
You're making down or you're making up for something lost.

Speaker 5 (45:44):
I'm trying to overcompensate because Rich isn't here, So you
know what, I'm doing extra effort.

Speaker 4 (45:49):
Man, I'm really going to bring it today.

Speaker 5 (45:50):
You know, I'm also subconsciously going to say I'm a
show everybody I don't need this guy. What yeah, I
mean subconsciously, bro, Yeah, yeah, I'm not like walking around
telling everybody but I.

Speaker 4 (45:59):
Don't need this and I want everybody to know. No,
man a full of great.

Speaker 5 (46:03):
Energy and look out, Celtics, it's the Coveno Show.

Speaker 4 (46:09):
I mean, but Rich'll be back tomorrow.

Speaker 5 (46:11):
But seriously, subconsciously, all these things are going on and
you're putting extra effort into that to show that the
whole team and the whole process doesn't revolve around one guy.
And I think they band together just to prove that, Like, yo,
it's not just the Jason Tatums show. We're great. We're
great with him, but we're great without him too. We're

(46:32):
gonna show that. That's why you don't want to take
any chances. That's why the Knicks have to stomp on
them tonight. Because you're right, then it does get a
little scary. Well to quote your hero as a child
mc hammer gaining momentum, you don't want anyone. He also said,
look at my eyes, man, you can't touch this. I
think if you go back to Boston your toast. I

(46:55):
just can't see how you're right with the with the
Tatum stuff going back to Boston.

Speaker 4 (47:01):
You got to.

Speaker 5 (47:01):
Finish this tonight, which is why I think it's the
most important home game and the most important event at
Madison Square Garden. But trust me, there's another theory here
in the twenty first century. Here's I agree. I hate
agreeing with you.

Speaker 6 (47:14):
What's the other answer going to be? Billy Joel's the show.
I'm a big Billy Joel fan. What the circus Ringling
Brothers when it comes to town.

Speaker 5 (47:21):
Yeah, when Gun through Gable Williams was was taming tigers
and lions, there's no.

Speaker 4 (47:26):
Big fights at the garden like there were when our
parents were younger.

Speaker 6 (47:30):
The Rangers haven't won a Stanley Cup since nineteen ninety four,
and before that, I remember nineteen forty, So.

Speaker 5 (47:36):
Tonight we're reminded why it's the world's most famous arena,
no diggity, no doubt. The last big event there was
the Dice Man selling out.

Speaker 4 (47:44):
I mean maybe like a big East tournament.

Speaker 6 (47:47):
Yukon or Qus back in the day did something, But
I'm talking about the mecca.

Speaker 5 (47:52):
Madison Square Garden. Is tonight the biggest game. Yes, since the.

Speaker 7 (47:58):
Year two thousand?

Speaker 4 (48:00):
Can you hit that high note? Since the year two thousand? Man,
you did that so early. Thank you, sir, Thank you
bringing that conan energy.

Speaker 5 (48:14):
Iowa Sam on the ones and twos again, Breeze on
the phones eight seven seven ninety nine.

Speaker 4 (48:18):
Ohs, Fox, don't be scarred.

Speaker 5 (48:19):
Hit us up and let's chop it up, especially when
we're giving away prizes. But Rich, there's another theory as
to why you don't want to go back to Boston.
And let's not forget the New York Boston rivalry as
a city, forget about the team just as a city.
It's so big and so fun. I call it the
duel for Johnny theory. Although the team wants to step

(48:41):
up minus Tatum, they also want to like rally around
this something to rally around is scary, and I called
the duel for Johnny theory from the movie The Outsiders.
You know, they were rumbling, they were ready to win,
and when they're doing it for someone else, I think
that's when people play big. And I know that sounds corny,

(49:04):
but people get together and like, nah, man, we got you.
They're telling Tatum, we got you. We're gonna do it
for Jason, do it for Johnny. When you throw more
factors into the mix like that, you really see people
step up in different ways. It's also to tie it
to sports, the Brett Favre theory where he had his
biggest game on his toughest night because he was doing
it for his dad who passed away. Now I'm not saying,

(49:27):
you know, Tatum's never coming back, but it's reason to play,
for reason to rally around. I don't think you want
to let another team who has all this going for them,
this bonding moment. You don't want to let them gain
momentum like you said, so that nade me said Brett Favre. Yeah,
use it a couple more times because in four days,
far far, far far, because saying four days.

Speaker 4 (49:49):
The world is gonna hate him fly that documentary.

Speaker 5 (49:51):
I mean a lot of people hate him on what
I'm saying, I think everyone's gonna hate him.

Speaker 4 (49:54):
In four days.

Speaker 5 (49:55):
There's a documentary coming out on Netflix, and it did
points out everything to make this guy awful. You bring
up people, rallying around people. I think you don't want
to admit it. As a Yankees fan, it's gonna be
tough for you guys to win the World Series this
year without Gert Cole.

Speaker 4 (50:13):
However, if you go back a couple.

Speaker 5 (50:14):
Of years, in twenty twenty one, the Atlanta Braves won
the World Series despite Ronald Acuna Junior being hurt at
a pivotal point in missing the season. Sometimes losing a
key player actually makes the team better. It sounds crazy
and ridiculous, but losing Jan Soto, for example, really did

(50:36):
make the Yankees lineup better, forced them to make other moves.
Other players had to step up. You're a more well
rounded team as opposed to relying on one player or
expecting one player to bring it. So, if the Celtics
are able to rally around this, yeah, they're a dangerous
squad still and you're seeing it. So it puts that

(50:57):
much pressure on what the Knicks have to do, which
is win at home, and it brings again the question up,
is this the biggest night at the Garden in the
twenty first century, that's really the year.

Speaker 6 (51:09):
Two thousand, because when you think about what Dane Cook
selling out the Garden Sebastian menascalco, Hey, yea.

Speaker 10 (51:15):
I sold out ten dimes. Why would you do that?
I think he sold ten nights out. I'm telling you
Didney play like ten shows in the car. Since the
year two.

Speaker 6 (51:27):
Thousand Conan O'Brien's style, there hasn't been a There hasn't
been an event of this magnitude at the Garden because
everything you think of, whether it was a big fight night,
all those although I remember the last time was electric
sports Relatedlyn sanity, Lin sanity, Yeah, because we lived it
rich and I we live in LA We're live from

(51:47):
the barrios of the West Side right now, but we're
lying from the mean streets of LA. We're in the
valley of chirman Oaks. Nothing mean about cherman Oaks. Everybody
koboke loco. So we live in LA now, but we're
from the East coast.

Speaker 5 (52:06):
And not even just a garden, just the city itself
was electric Boogie Yuggy Yuggy. When insanity was going on,
that's how real it was, like, it really was a
huge moment. It may have been a passing fleeting two
weeks for you. You're like, yeah, I remember that. I
mean those documentaries you've seen about Linsanity was real and

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the garden was rocking the way it should be when
that happened. That was insane. I hate to say it.
I'm sorry, Lindsaye. I hate to say it because you know,
we are New Yorkers originally, you know, we're original New Yorkers.
I mean, I'm ready to be technical. I'm a joysy
boy in my golfeet, but here you grow up. New

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York's your backyard, your playground, and where we worked. But
I see you're you're a Jersey guy. I'm actually a
New Yorker. And I look at it and say, other
than a stand up comedy special and insanity, maybe the
debut of Carmelo Anthony because he was like a hometown
guy and people loved him.

Speaker 4 (53:10):
Agreeing with this guy.

Speaker 5 (53:11):
But Rich is right, he didn't really win with the
Knicks the way they wanted him to or we expected.
But we were there for his debut and it was electric.

Speaker 4 (53:23):
We were there.

Speaker 5 (53:23):
It was one of the few times he went to
a big game like that, and I remember everybody was
super pumped about it.

Speaker 6 (53:29):
So the nose bleeds tonight, Seat Geeks, stub Hub, all
your sites.

Speaker 5 (53:35):
Eight hun though for like a you know, a high up.
But then again, it's a garden. It's not that big.
But eight hundred bucks for what you would call the nosebleed,
So yeah, get.

Speaker 4 (53:47):
That's take it.

Speaker 5 (53:48):
Oh, I don't know, eight hundred for a nose bleed. Yeah,
i'd you gotta run that one by the wife. He maybe, maybe, Honey,
I'm gonna be sitting after after you buy it, of course,
sitting behind the Billy Joel sign in the rafters. Eight
hundred your thoughts is tonight the biggest event at the

(54:08):
Garden in the twenty first century. I'm trying to think
of something bigger than that, because again, tonight is going
to be electric, It's going to be what New York's
supposed to be the world's most famous arena. You have
to factor in the fans tonight, the intimidation factor. It's
going to be loud, home court advantage will be in
a fact, at least you hope the stars will.

Speaker 4 (54:30):
Be you say, intimidating fans. Are you talking about the
mean mug from Ben Stiller.

Speaker 5 (54:35):
I'm talking Timothy Shallow, a mean mug in Celtics tonight
with his work boots on. So yeah, the stars will
be out. You'll be watching, and if anything, I'd love
to hear from you. But if anything, if you don't
have a horse in the race, we gave you reason
to watch tonight. You know what, Tim in Vermont, We'll
start with him. Tim biggest event, biggest event at the garden.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
I don't know about the biggest events being this because
you guys thinking about the concert for nine to eleven
in the twenty first century, you communists.

Speaker 4 (55:10):
You know.

Speaker 5 (55:11):
I remember I worked at I worked at Z one
hundred in New York at that time, and they had
jingle Ball three months after nine to eleven, and they
had FDN Y and NYPD walking around the garden And.

Speaker 4 (55:23):
You mean you were there and you forgot. I was shamed. Yeah,
but that was just more sentimental.

Speaker 5 (55:29):
I was there and Rich introduced the Backstreet voice that
it's possible.

Speaker 4 (55:33):
Ladies and gentlemen, Well that to make some noise for Backstreet.
No boy, it's from the Backstreet. Do you remember that
song the Backstreet Boy.

Speaker 6 (55:41):
I was saying, I don't know how quick you were
on the punch, But do you remember that song Superman
by five for fighting? Of course, by the way, five
for fighting got his name, that's the penalty and hockey
five minutes for fighting. That song played at Madison Square
Garden while FDN Y and NYPD walked around with candles.

Speaker 5 (56:00):
Canch dance.

Speaker 4 (56:00):
I was wondering where that voice was coming from. I
forgot spots on a new part of the studio. Now
he's out of sight, the disembodied voice coming. Don't play
the song, let's spot sing it. Spot. You remember that there? Man,
don't I know? We have this library of music with
the cloud burden there. Thank you Scout. I my god.

(56:21):
I know it's a sentimental moment, but that song is misery.

Speaker 6 (56:24):
But that was a sentben the moment, but biggest moment
tonight Medson Square gards related. Absolutely, let's go all right, listen,
we got more Kaleen on Ritch coming up for the
Great Dan Patrick