August 23, 2025 • 39 mins
Dan thinks the Colts front office needs to take more of the blame for drafting Anthony Richardson so early in the 2023 NFL Draft after they named Daniel Jones as their starter. Dan considers the idea of the Super Bowl being held in London and this current era of change that has consumed professional and college sports. Plus, Rock and Roll Legend John Fogerty stops by to discuss his new album featuring CCR classics.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Spend a little bit of time talking about the Colts situation.
They have decided to go with Daniel Jones as the
starter instead of Anthony Richardson. Here is the Colts head
coach Shane Steiken with the question about Daniel Jones.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Why do you think you all can win with Daniel
when his career record isn't good and the last time
we saw him to play football for the Giants it wasn't good.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
Well, I think that he's proven that he's played good
football in that twenty twenty two season. You know, he
had a hell of a year that year. I think
that was the highest complation rate in Giants franchise history
that season. So he's proven to do it. I know
he's had his ups and downs, but everyone's journey's different,
and feel confident in his abilities.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
You better. Your job's probably you know, hanging in the
balance there. But this is what we do. Anthony Richardson
didn't say, Hey, I'm the fourth best player in the draft,
Chris's the GM. Why is it the player is always
the bust, not the GM or the coach. Anthony Richardson
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came in as a raw talent, and he was a project.
But I think every quarterback who comes into the NFL
is a project of sorts. It's just varying degrees. Anthony
Richardson was twenty years of age. He's still he's younger
than quite a few quarterbacks. He's younger than shardor Sanders Is.
He's younger than you know, all these other rookies, Jackson
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Dart of the Giants. It's going to take time. I
just don't think organizations, coaching staffs have that ability to
They don't have time on their sides because everybody seems
to look and go, why can't we find our Jaden Daniels,
Why can't we find our bow Knicks, Why can't we
find our Drake May. Therefore, we're not very patient. And
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the Colts, you got a coaching staff that their job's
probably hang in the balance and they're probably going to
be taking the safe way with Daniel Jones. Is Daniel
Jones a better quarterback than Anthony Richardson? The answer is yes.
Does Anthony Richardson have a higher ceiling? Yes, I believe
he does. But if you look at how he's played
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in the first two years, these are all the things
that the scouts pointed out that he doesn't do well.
Footwork is terrible, very very inconsistent with his throws. He
has one speed, he throws it really hard, he's going
to take chances, he gets injured, and he took himself
out of a game. So those are the negatives there.
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Now the positives. You know, you run a four four
four three at the combine and you can throw it
probably eighty r. I mean, these are all great attributes.
You still have to understand how to play the game
when you go to the line of scrimmage, how how
quickly do you get out of the huddle. Now this
is you know from my source, because I said, will
you go back and look at your notes on Anthony Richardson,
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And that's what he talked about. He thought that it
was a a high risk draft pick, not a first
round or second round grade. I look at Jaln Milroe
who's with Seattle, and I think he's got a brighter
future than Anthony Richardson because Jalen Milroe was a third
round draft pick and he was a guy who can
run and throw and was a better thrower of the
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football when he was at Alabama. In fact, I think underrated.
There a great talent, similar size, speed, but you know
here he's a guy who's a third round draft pick.
He will get a chance to sit and he might
be playing sooner than later. Sam Darnold's the starter, but
that's basically a one year deal. They think highly of
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Jalen Milroe and he might get that opportunity, but he
wasn't the fourth pick overall. Anthony Richardson and his agent
probably are going do we try to get out of
this situation, But then what is the trade value? Who
wants Anthony Richardson With what you've seen, You're gonna you're
going to take him on potential. But the problem I
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still have is, you know, Trey Lance is not the
guy who drafted Trey Lance. Zach Wilson didn't draft Zach Wilson.
It's the people in the front office. Zack Wilson played
one really good season, Trey Lance one really good season.
It's not enough. We've talked about this. You've got to
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have at least thirty starts. Then you're ready or you're
more ready. But you know the bottom line is they're
all projects. Jackson Dart Jackson Dart I think is going
to be the starter this year with the Giants at
some point. He's really good. And during the season I
said he had a first round grade and he goes
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late first round to the Giants. But we've seen quarterbacks
taken high, we've seen them taken low. We've seen them
with the last pick in the draft. You must be
able to play the position and understand the position. It
is not talent. There's certain sports where talent can take over.
You can go out there and be a basketball player
and not really know how to play basketball, but you
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can still play. You can be in the game. You
can actually be really good because you have talent. And
Anthony Richardson has talent, But that will only get you
so far. I mean, if you look at the list
of great quarterbacks, it's not necessarily athleticism. It is how
do I lead? How do I get out of the huddle,
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change the play at the line of scrimmage? How do
I process what's going on? Hey, I'm going to check down.
Do I protect the football? Do I go down for
a sack instead of trying to make something? I mean,
these are all the things that you just check You
got to do all these things if you have any
chance of being successful. But I feel bad for Anthony
Richardson because he didn't draft him and he's a project.
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He's still raw. He's going to be one of those guys.
And we're seeing this now more and more, and Daniel
Jones is one of those guys. You get that second chance,
Gino Smith, you get that second chance. Sam Darnold, you
get a second chance. That's what happens now that all
of a sudden, it's two years and we move on,
and then you'll bring in somebody else, because this is
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what you ultimately hear by That quarterback class for next
year is great already thinking all right, what are we
gonna do next year? Who are we gonna draft next year?
I mean, the Browns are gonna go through this situation.
You know Joe Flacco is not the starter next year?
Are they gonna give shad Or Sanders and Dylan Gabriel
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an opportunity to prove if they can be a starter. Well,
they get this year and then maybe next year. But
the Browns have two first round draft picks the Rams.
The Rams will probably move on from Matthew Stafford after
this year. Is Stetson Bennett going to be the heir apparent.
There they have two first round draft picks. It's so
enticing to go that guy. I see what we have here,
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But that guy, he's got pull two man. Look at him.
He's carving up SEC defenses. We see this every single year.
But Anthony Richardson, we can label him a bust or
at least potentially a bust. But the pick is the bust.
Mitchell Trubisky, the pick is the bust Trey Lance. Maybe
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they weren't ready to play, and we've seen that. I
keep thinking, Trey Lance, maybe he can still play, but
what's he on his third team now? He might not
be able to be a starter in the league. But
then there are other guys that you go, Jacoby Brissett
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knows how to play the game. He might not be
high end, but why is it Jacoby Brissett or Teddy
Bridgewater can play better than somebody who is as talented
as Anthony Richardson or Joe Flacco. I can outrun him.
We're about the same age. But he's just out there playing.
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Here's Joe talking about being a forty year old quarterback.
Speaker 5 (08:09):
It's always one of those things that, like I think
as a football player. You just want to play. But
I think you got to give a lot of credit
to obviously Tom for anybody even thinking about doing it.
Obviously there was guys before you have, you know, Warren
Moon and I talked about it a couple weeks. Who
have any testaverity and other guys that have done it.
But I mean he pushed the boundaries like he did
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in absolutely everything. No surprise that he did it in
that way as well. But you know, it's I don't
think it's necessarily something that I actively think about until
people kind of remind me with texts and things like that,
and you guys ask me about it. I don't think
it's a huge deal right now, but I'm sure when
I look back on it, it'll be pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Yeah, it doesn't make sense right because the position has evolved.
Now you don't have to be six or five stationary
with a rocket for an arm. Now we kind of
it's open to interpretation, but it still comes back to
can you play the position? And I like an Anthony
Richardson too. It's a piece of property and it overlooks
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the water, and man, that looks gorgeous. I wonder what
we could build on that piece of property. Meanwhile, Joe Flacco,
he's just a you know, maybe a condominium and moves
as fast as a condominium, you know, two bedroom condo.
There's our guy. I mean, you can have Brady who
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as a mansioner, John Elway, or those guys Anthony Richardson
and some of these younger quarterbacks. It's just a piece
of property that has a great view or the potential
for something really nice. But can you play the position?
And when I talked to my source last night, he
went over his notes and I just kept going check, check, check,
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and he said, sometimes we'll fall in love with one
or two plays and we go, oh my goodness, did
you see that? And there is a play that Anthony
Richardson has. I think it's a sixty yard pass. It's gorgeous.
It's unbelievable. It's like when Zach Wilson had his pro
day and he did the let me turn and go
left and throw right and do the Mahomes thing. Oh
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my god, you see that. I go, that doesn't mean anything.
I mean, it's nice, but it doesn't mean It's like
the guy in your backyard who's just he's unbelievable. And
then he gets into a structured game and he can't play,
and that's what happens. We fall in love with a
highlight or two. We're so highlight driven and it comes
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down to every single day, every single game, all of
those moments.
Speaker 6 (10:45):
Yeah, pulling and the Colts, going back to when Anthony
Richardson was a rookie, ignored everything you would do with
a rookie who's a project. They announced him as the
starter for week one. Halfway through training camp on August fifteenth,
they had Gardner Minshew, they can let Minshew handle the
first half of the season and handed it off to
Richardson literally, and they didn't, and he got hurt in
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games two and three and that curtailed him. And the
other thing is, you know, Patrick Mahomes sat his rookie year.
Mahomes because they thought of him as a project. And
that guy had like seventy touchdowns in college passing.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Yeah, he came in as a gunslinger. They weren't quite sure.
You know, you're gonna kind of have to reel him
in a little bit there. He wants to be like Farv. Well,
he understands how to play the game. He can throw
for fifty touchdowns, or he can throw for twenty five.
But the bottom line, he's going to win games. His
stats last year weren't great. Would they lose one game?
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One game in the regular season when he threw for
fifty touchdowns? They lost four games. It's understanding how to
win a game? What do I need to do today?
What do I need to do this quarter? What do
I need to do in the final two minutes? How
many of those quarterbacks? How many times do we say
that with Tom Brady three minutes ago, two minutes ago,
he's got the ball. Oh boy, you're gonna lose. It
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just happened. Why he just knew how to win a game.
John Elway two minutes ago. Damn, he's got the ball.
Speaker 7 (12:14):
We're gonna lose.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
The question is how are we? Hey, let's guess how
we're going to lose. You can have great athleticism, great talent,
but you have to have a mind for the game.
But you also have to have a coaching staff that
doesn't have turnover that you have the same offensive coordinator,
you know, the same coach that is so important and underrated. Yeah, Pauline.
Speaker 6 (12:37):
I went back and looked at Anthony Richardson's draft profile,
by Lancier Line of NFL dot Com, and the player
comp is Cam Newton. But he wraps up by saying,
imagine if Cam Newton didn't do anything in college. Really,
Cam Newton had all the production and won and had
everything and passed and ran. Anthony Richardson got benched his
last year for another player, And they said, it's got
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tons of upside, but it's one of the bigger risks
if someone takes him in the first round. That was
said before the draft.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Yeah, and you would watch a game, there'd be times
where you couldn't take your eyes off of him, and
then there'd be other times when you're watching and nothing
stood out. But is he gonna play this year? I
think with the coaching staff probably coaching for their jobs,
he's probably going to have to find a job elsewhere
to play. But he's got two years left on his contract.
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Speaker 2 (14:13):
Watching some baseball last night, and I've been watching a
lot of the Yankees because the Yankees are on a
terror now. You can hit home runs during the regular season,
you can overwhelm teams during the regular season. This is
about postseason success. And I'm watching the Yankees and I'm going,
all right, that's a lot of home runs that they've hit.
They've hit fourteen home runs in the last two games.
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That's a staggering amount. But this lineup has been very good.
They lead baseball at scoring over five runs per game.
As the calendar creeps to September and dips into October.
This is about pitching, and the Yankees have the sixteenth
best team ERA. Now they lost to Garrett Cole before
the season even started, But six months you can have
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an elite lineup been bludging your way to some success
and get a playoff berth. But if you're going to
win a World Series, it's going to be about pitching
come September and certainly October. Speaking of pitching, show, Hao Tani.
He got roughed up his first career start at corps Field.
He gave up five runs, nine hits in four innings,
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also took a comebacker off the leg. He did have
a double on a walk to extend his on base
streak to eighteen games. You know the Padres, Oh wow, wow, Okay,
the Padres aren't going away. They're kind of hanging there
a game behind. Is that our first overrated for show?
(15:41):
Hao tani't br last either.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
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when we talked about show Heyo Tani because they're trying
to give him more innings and I'm watching the game
and he was getting roughed up, and they kept him
out there, get a few more pitches, a few more innings,
and then they finally took him out. But Pryor said
that there could be a possibility of a relief appearance
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for show Hayo Tani come postseason time, that that is
being considered by the Dodgers. You look at him as
a starting pitcher. Plus, here's the thing with being a closer.
If you're going to be in the field, how are
you going to warm up. It's almost as if you're
a DH now you can go warm up, But you
don't want Sho hau Tani warming up and then not
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getting into the game because closers will tell you nothing
worse than you think you're going to go. You get
warmed up, Skip says, go out there, start throwing, and
then you don't get in the game can't do that
with Otani. But as far as his starting pitching, he
looked pedestrian last night against Colorado. The new one improved Rockies,
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but just some of the baseball that I saw last night.
Speaker 6 (17:20):
Yes, Paul, I was thinking about this, that Otani's going
to win the MVP going away this year, even though
his numbers are quite a bit down hitting from last year.
I mean, he had fifty nine steals last year. He's
down to seventeen. His homers are a little down, his
batting average is a bit down, but it's like his
aura is going to win him these things. The options
the Dodgers had with him to close, start, play him,
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not play him, it's like he's bigger than anyone else.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Clearly, well, he doesn't have competition. Kyle Schwarber is pretty
much one dimensional. But I do think he should be
in the race. I mean, he is in the race,
he's in second place. But I was curious Otani getting
roughed up. What that meant for the draft Kings odds
for Otani. So he was minus eight thousand yesterday to
win the MVP. Now it's minus six thousand, So he
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went down two thousand points Kyle Schwarber was plus thirteen
hundred yesterday. He's plus nine hundred. The race is really
in the American League with Aaron Judge minus two hundred
and Cal Rawley is hanging in there. I think Rawley's
got to hit sixty home runs, at least sixty home runs,
and if he does and you're a playoff team, then
maybe he could win the MVP. But we might see
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this happening for the next couple of years with Otani
and Aaron Judge and the PGA Tour Championship. Scotty Scheffler's
the overwhelming favorite starting today. This is Tiger like. Okay,
I'm not saying he's playing like Tiger or you know,
he is Tiger, the second coming a Tiger, But how
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big of a favorite. That's Tiger like? He's plus one
point fifty. Rory McElroy is plus eight fifty. That's the
second best odds. This is Tiger like. College football this
weekend is week zero. Iowa State K State in Dublin.
I got Iowa State getting three. I'm curious about Stanford
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at Hawaii, believe it or not yet Stanford getting two
and a half at Hawaii. Fresno State at Kansas. I'm
mildly curious about that. Presno State getting twelve and a
half at KU. See, these are games that I love.
These are the nobody loves us, nobody cares about us,
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nobody respects us. And they'd be right, But I do.
I love watching these games, especially early in the season.
And maybe it's just I take any football. But here
we aren't two days away until college football, and we're
inching closer to the opening of the NFL. And speaking
of the NFL, we've spoken about this before, but now
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you have the possibility of having a discussion of maybe
having the Super Bowl played in London. Now London wants this, Okay.
The UK Ambassador, Peter Mandelson lobbies for the Super Bowl
to be held in Britain. He's the US ambassador and
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he's lobbying for the first super Bowl outside of the
United States. Okay, I this is how these things get started. Now,
if the Commissioner, if somebody has an opportunity to talk
to him and say, hey, what did you think of
the UK ambassador talking about a super Bowl? The Commissioner
will say the following, Oh, you know what, We've considered everything.
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The growth of the sport and we play so many
games now the international part portion of this, and you know,
it's something that will take into consideration. But as for now,
we have the Super Bowl and we have you know,
cities that are locked in over the next X number
of years. I mean, but he will address it. I
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don't know if he would give you no comment. If
he gave you no comment, well now I'm really interested.
But you might get some political speak from the commissioner,
but I think it's inevitable. And I don't know if
there's any of us who will turn it off or
not tune in because it's not in the United States.
Now you might have you know, that anti American sentiment
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and you know, what are we doing and that's our sport. Well,
we shipped out Baseball opening Day. I don't know if
anybody was enraged by that except for me. The NBA
is expanding. Maybe there's a European portion of this, but
I think you're every sport's looking for growth, even golf. Now,
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you know, golf just hired Tiger Woods, theo Epstein. They're
trying to look at the future of the sport and
they're promising there's big changes there. But Tiger was named
to a committee that's basically about the future of the sport,
and they promise big changes. And I don't know what
those big changes could be, but every sport is looking
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for more revenue. How do we grow the game? And
there's going to be a separate TV package for the
international game. So the NFL is going to sell that
off for a billion dollars because now they have more revenue.
We've added another game. Now they'll add another game after that,
and then you're going to have maybe more international games.
But I think this is just inevitable with the growth
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of the game Baseball. Baseball's talking about expansion, maybe four
new teams in here. Maybe they're going to have realignment.
Maybe we don't have an American league in the National League.
And I know if you're of my age or anybody
over fifty, you're probably saying he's ruining the sport. They're
going to ruin the sport. All of these commissioners know
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where is the next piece of revenue because they have
to be holden. They're beholden to the owners because the
owners are saying, we got to make more money, we
got to make more money. College football, we're at twelve.
Now we'll go to fourteen or sixteen. And now you
have at least the possibility proposals on the table of
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going to twenty four to twenty eight. March Madness sixty eight,
well you got to go to seventy two or seventy six.
Every one of these sports, it's about the growth. How
do we grow it, how do we make more money?
And that's happening right now, happening right now with baseball,
happening right now with the NBA, happening right now with
the NFL, and golf is trying to grow the sport again.
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And you have the competition with Live Tour and now
Tiger's involved in this, theo Epstein, who's a baseball GM,
I mean, he's involved in this, and maybe there is
something that they'll do that I don't know what could
be drastic. I think, you know, maybe the number of events.
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I like relegation, but you know, relegation. They have relegation
on Livetour and Ian Poulter I think just got relegated.
Why I know that, I don't know. I have no life,
but I think that's the interesting part of watching what
they're trying to do. And you can't stay stagnant. There's
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some things this Baseball Commissioner has done that I think
are positive. I think that he's he earned criticism with
talking about the World Series Trophy was just a piece
of metal. When talking about the Astros, that was stupid.
The Pete Rose portion of putting him on the ballot
or making him eligible, that came from pressure from President Trump,
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Roger Goodell. He's a businessman. It's growth of the game.
It's not necessarily for the betterment of the game. But
I don't think anybody's going to tune out the Super
Bowl if it's played in London. But I do think
we're going there. I don't know when, maybe it's ten years,
but maybe in our lifetime we're going to have a
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Super Bowl outside the Unife States. Yes, Todd, is there.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Anything that these leaves can do? You know, while they're
chasing the next dollar and the greed and the revenue
that would really turn the sports fan off. They may
not love it, but ultimately, if you like sports, you're
going to watch. If there's extra college basketball teams in
the tournament, if there's extra college football teams in the
players say there really anything that they can do? Where
it's like, Wow, that's too much, No thanks, I'm not
watching this anymore.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Well, I wondered about this, and this is not on
the par of this, obviously, but when we were doing
Sports Center, and I remember my boss at the time,
Steve Bornstein, he said, we're going to reair Sports Center
all morning long, and I thought that's stupid, And then
all of a sudden, I realized there was a whole
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generation that wasn't able to stay up at eleven o'clock
or you know, one o'clock in the morning. They got
to watch that in the morning. And you guys are
probably the demo that we appealed to. You got to
have Sports Center reairing starting at six in the morning
and went all morning long, and it would be the
same Sports Center, but there you were catering to an
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audience that was missing out on staying up and watching
all the highlights. And it turned out to be a
brilliant move. But I don't know if can you get
too much football? Mark Cuban talked about this, was it
pigs get fat and hogs get slaughtered And we haven't
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found that yet. We haven't found that. You can be
you'll push yourself away from the sports buffet.
Speaker 6 (26:33):
Yeah, Paul, I will say there's one thing that fans
are having and going to have a problem with this
upcoming year with football. If you want to watch all
the NFL games, like four or five years ago, if
you got the Red Zone package, you could watch everything,
one check, two hundred bucks.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
That's it.
Speaker 6 (26:48):
You were set for the season. Now you need Netflix, Peacock,
Amazon Prime, your basic cable channel for your local you're
get into. You need like seven different packages or subscriptions
to watch all the NFL game and it's it's it's
a labor to order all those and sign up for those,
and it's costly. You're getting to the point I did
some research on this. If you want to watch all
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the NFL games this season, it's probably gonna cost you
eight hundred plus dollars in subscriptions, and four years ago
I would say it was about one ninety nine.
Speaker 7 (27:21):
Five years which is still expensive as hell one hundred
and nine now, but worth it. But it's it's not
nearly one thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (27:27):
Back when DirecTV had the red Zone and you could
sign up for DirecTV's Red Zone, you got the red
zone where you chopped up all the games, but then
the you could choose which game you go to. Now
you're looking at eight hundred bucks for the entire season
plus to get every package.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
And it's not going down by the way, it's not
gonna be Hey, they're gonna reduce this. Hey, loyal fans,
we're gonna give you a break, a bargain here.
Speaker 7 (27:52):
Yeah, it's not unlike trying to watch soccer where uh
you know, Peacock has the Premier League, Apple has MLS,
Paramount has USL, Fubo has the French League, ESPN has
the Spanish League. Now at least those are that's worldwide.
You're trying to get all these things. This is one
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what Paul is referring to us one league in one country.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
I know, yes, yes, Tod, but you have to.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Believe they've done or they're doing some type of research
in the NFL officers, what is the absolute most we
can charge these people along with the networks where they'll
still keep paying, So we don't hit that spot where
we're gonna lose viewership, we're gonna lose dollars. We're gonna
push it to the last possible cent that we're willing
to spend.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Why wouldn't they Well, maybe if the commissioner comes on
the show, I can ask in such questions.
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Speaker 2 (28:49):
He's still out there on the road rocking. John Fogerty, singer, songwriter,
Hall of Famer, just turned eighty in May, and today
a new album, Legacy, is being released, as he re
recorded some of his most beloved songs with the help
of his sons, Shane and Tyler. Have you seen the rain?
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Fortunate Son, Proud Mary, bad Moon Rising? But a big
baseball fan. His song center Field the only song to
be officially inducted into the Baseball Hall of Fame. As
we make way for John Fogerty, former lead singer of
Creeden's Clearwater Revival. John, great to talk to you again.
What was your reaction when you realized that the bat,
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guitar and the song center Field were becoming part of
the Baseball Hall of Fame.
Speaker 11 (29:38):
Oh, that was right around maybe a couple months before
it actually happened. Is right around the time that it
occurred I didn't get a lot of time to think
about all the implications, you know. I was certainly very proud,
still proud.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
And then whose idea was it to make a guitar
out of a bass resemble a baseball bat?
Speaker 10 (30:02):
Oh, that was my idea.
Speaker 11 (30:05):
I'd written center Field, you know, more or less deciding
that that's kind of where my mind had been over
the all the years of my life, you know, and
it just felt comfortable about you know, Centerfield as an
album was kind of a comeback for me, you might say,
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career wise, and the place to me that was sort
of ground zero was center field. It seemed like, especially
on a lot of teams, the alpha male on the
team seemed to be the center fielder, you know, like
Willie Mays with the Giants, or back in the day
Babe Ruth before they moved him to right field. I
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think Joe Demajio, Mickey Mannle.
Speaker 10 (30:50):
You know, go on.
Speaker 11 (30:51):
But anyway, and so I wrote the song and then
eventually decided to name the album center Field. Actually it's
the reverse. I named the album center Field and didn't.
Speaker 10 (31:05):
Have a salt.
Speaker 11 (31:07):
And then I came up with that guitar lick, you know,
and realized that I started. I started just saying the
things I said in life. I'd watched the Saturday Game
of the week baseball, you know, there was one game
on TV on Saturday, and I'd sit down and watch
that and I'd be yelling at the screen screen, you know,
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like we do when something good happen or bad. And
sometimes there'd be a phenom, you know, and something going
not going well with the team you're rooting for, and
I'd be yelling.
Speaker 10 (31:40):
Put me in, coach, put me.
Speaker 11 (31:41):
You know. It's just you know, how you enjoy and
interact with the game. And all of that stuff started
coming out when I was playing that guitar lick and
I realized I had a song that.
Speaker 10 (31:54):
Could be center field. So that came first.
Speaker 11 (31:58):
The album came out in eighty five and it was
a big success and all that, and I decided, well,
you know, I'm going to be touring pretty soon. Wow,
it'd be cool to be able to play center field
on a baseball bat.
Speaker 10 (32:12):
So that's how it started for me.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Now, clear up something, because I think I asked you
about this a while ago that you say brown eyed
handsome man, and I thought you were talking about Joe
Demagio because he played center field, and you said, it's
not about Joe Demagio, It's about Jackie Robinson.
Speaker 11 (32:32):
Absolutely, I realize he's not the center fielder. And I
guess I took a little tributary in the musical world there,
but it just seemed important to me. That's a line
that's in a Chuck Berry song, Brown Eyed Handsome Man,
and he talks about ground and third headed and for home,
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and so that I just sort of borrowed that in
my homage to Jackie Robinson. After all, if I'm writing
a baseball song, you better be in there.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
We're talking to John Fogerty, formerly of Creden's Clearwater Revival
rock and roll Hall of Famer, has a new album
called Legacy that comes out today, some re recordings with
his sons Shane and Tyler. You got fortunate son. Have
you seen the rain? Proud Mary? So tell me what
went into this project.
Speaker 11 (33:25):
Well, you know, I recently got my songs back the
ownership a couple of years ago, and that's a great
big deal of any songwriter, of course, or any writer
of any kind of material. And so finally, after more
than fifty years of trying, I finally got the ownership.
Speaker 10 (33:47):
Of those songs back.
Speaker 11 (33:49):
It was actually facilitated by my dear wife, Julie. She's
the one that really manifested this and made it happen.
You know, she's a force of nature and God bless her.
So with that in mind, finally accomplishing that, it just
seemed kind of a natural progression to hear in the present,
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you know, I just turned eighty this year, and the
idea basically was, well, what do you do?
Speaker 10 (34:20):
What kind of a gift would I like?
Speaker 11 (34:23):
So I decided to give myself a gift and record
a lot of the old Creeden songs I had written
so many years ago again and hopefully it would be
seen as a gift also to my fans. And that
was the motivation, this time involving my family, meaning my
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wife and certainly my sons Shane and Tyler, who are
in my band, and they helped produce the record as well.
So it was a family endeavor, you know, a lot
of love in that respect making this record.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Take me back to Woodstock. What day were you on
with Creden's Clearwater Revival?
Speaker 11 (35:11):
Well, it was supposed to be on Saturday night. The
man on the phone had promised me that a prime spot,
you know, the headlining spot on Saturday night. It's going
to be nine o'clock. Man, that's prime time. But things
got later and later and later. This was, of course
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during the era of hippies. I'm not sure anybody actually
had a watch.
Speaker 10 (35:37):
But the whole program got later and later, and somewhere around.
Speaker 11 (35:41):
Midnight of Saturday, the Grateful Dead went on, and then
they sort of stalled around on stage for a while.
Speaker 10 (35:49):
Nobody quite knew what was going on.
Speaker 11 (35:51):
I believe Credence went on Sunday morning.
Speaker 10 (35:54):
Early around.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Were you when Hendrix set his guitar on fire.
Speaker 10 (36:03):
No, that was actually Monday morning.
Speaker 11 (36:07):
That was after the whole night of Sunday, you know,
the whole festivities of the Sunday evening going into twelve
am and one and two and three, then the sun
came up, and that's Monday morning when Jimmy went on.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
The difference in your voice now at eighty as opposed
to thirty.
Speaker 11 (36:27):
Ah, well, I know my falsetto is not quite as
strong and pure as it used to be. You know,
it's a little different around the edges, I think, but
it's certainly as strong. I'm certainly as loud as I
ever was, and that's probably as much to I've been
a runner all my life, and so I think all
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those miles of running kind of helped my stamina.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Well, congrats on a great run, and it's not over.
He's a rock and roll Hall of Famer as a
songwriter and of course as a singer. Best to the family, certainly,
Julie and John, thank you for joining us.
Speaker 10 (37:04):
Thank you, Dan, It's always great to see you.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
John Fogerty. The album is Legacy being released today. I
met him. I'm trying to think how many years ago,
this almost ten years ago at Howard Stern's sixtieth birthday party,
and Gary Delabate, Howard's longtime producer, invited me to come
on and introduce Dave Grohl, and I said, okay. But
(37:33):
I get there and immediately I'm told by somebody, Hey,
John Fogerty wants to meet you. I'm thinking, all right,
this is I mean, it's the Howard Stern Show. So
I'm you know, somebody's punking me here. You know, Baba
Booie is going to jump out or you know, stuttering
John or somebody. And I go back, you know, through
(37:55):
these hallways, and all of a sudden, I just walked
up to a door and knock on the door, and
John's wife answers. I said, I'm supposed to say hello
to John, and she goes, he's been waiting for you.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
I walk in and there he is.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
He's got his plaid shirt, his signature plaid shirt on
and he listens every morning in Los Angeles. And I said, okay,
this has already proven to be a great night. Then
I go back into this kind of a green room
and I got Slash from Guns n' Roses, and I
(38:32):
got Dave Groll. You know, you got all these people
and they're kind of getting ready to go on and
have their performances. And I walk up to Dave Grohl
and I said, hey, I'm introducing you. He goes, I
don't know anything about sports. My daughter's play lacrosse. I said, well,
I'm yeah, that has nothing to do with the introduction.
He goes, yeah, this is what I want you to
(38:54):
say that I grew up listening to Howard on a
Ham radio and I said okay, And then I just
wanted to get it over with because I mean I
had already had my highlight. I met John Fogerty, go out,
sayaloa to Robin saalo to, Howard introduced Dave Grohl, and
then I'm out the door. But you know, one of
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those surreal moments because there's John Fogerty rock and roll
Hall of Famer and gave us so many great songs
with credence
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Spend a little bit of time talking about the Colts situation.
They have decided to go with Daniel Jones as the
starter instead of Anthony Richardson. Here is the Colts head
coach Shane Steiken with the question about Daniel Jones.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Why do you think you all can win with Daniel
when his career record isn't good and the last time
we saw him to play football for the Giants it wasn't good.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
Well, I think that he's proven that he's played good
football in that twenty twenty two season. You know, he
had a hell of a year that year. I think
that was the highest complation rate in Giants franchise history
that season. So he's proven to do it. I know
he's had his ups and downs, but everyone's journey's different,
and feel confident in his abilities.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
You better. Your job's probably you know, hanging in the
balance there. But this is what we do. Anthony Richardson
didn't say, Hey, I'm the fourth best player in the draft,
Chris's the GM. Why is it the player is always
the bust, not the GM or the coach. Anthony Richardson
(01:08):
came in as a raw talent, and he was a project.
But I think every quarterback who comes into the NFL
is a project of sorts. It's just varying degrees. Anthony
Richardson was twenty years of age. He's still he's younger
than quite a few quarterbacks. He's younger than shardor Sanders Is.
He's younger than you know, all these other rookies, Jackson
(01:32):
Dart of the Giants. It's going to take time. I
just don't think organizations, coaching staffs have that ability to
They don't have time on their sides because everybody seems
to look and go, why can't we find our Jaden Daniels,
Why can't we find our bow Knicks, Why can't we
find our Drake May. Therefore, we're not very patient. And
(01:54):
the Colts, you got a coaching staff that their job's
probably hang in the balance and they're probably going to
be taking the safe way with Daniel Jones. Is Daniel
Jones a better quarterback than Anthony Richardson? The answer is yes.
Does Anthony Richardson have a higher ceiling? Yes, I believe
he does. But if you look at how he's played
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in the first two years, these are all the things
that the scouts pointed out that he doesn't do well.
Footwork is terrible, very very inconsistent with his throws. He
has one speed, he throws it really hard, he's going
to take chances, he gets injured, and he took himself
out of a game. So those are the negatives there.
(02:36):
Now the positives. You know, you run a four four
four three at the combine and you can throw it
probably eighty r. I mean, these are all great attributes.
You still have to understand how to play the game
when you go to the line of scrimmage, how how
quickly do you get out of the huddle. Now this
is you know from my source, because I said, will
you go back and look at your notes on Anthony Richardson,
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And that's what he talked about. He thought that it
was a a high risk draft pick, not a first
round or second round grade. I look at Jaln Milroe
who's with Seattle, and I think he's got a brighter
future than Anthony Richardson because Jalen Milroe was a third
round draft pick and he was a guy who can
run and throw and was a better thrower of the
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football when he was at Alabama. In fact, I think underrated.
There a great talent, similar size, speed, but you know
here he's a guy who's a third round draft pick.
He will get a chance to sit and he might
be playing sooner than later. Sam Darnold's the starter, but
that's basically a one year deal. They think highly of
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Jalen Milroe and he might get that opportunity, but he
wasn't the fourth pick overall. Anthony Richardson and his agent
probably are going do we try to get out of
this situation, But then what is the trade value? Who
wants Anthony Richardson With what you've seen, You're gonna you're
going to take him on potential. But the problem I
(04:02):
still have is, you know, Trey Lance is not the
guy who drafted Trey Lance. Zach Wilson didn't draft Zach Wilson.
It's the people in the front office. Zack Wilson played
one really good season, Trey Lance one really good season.
It's not enough. We've talked about this. You've got to
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have at least thirty starts. Then you're ready or you're
more ready. But you know the bottom line is they're
all projects. Jackson Dart Jackson Dart I think is going
to be the starter this year with the Giants at
some point. He's really good. And during the season I
said he had a first round grade and he goes
(04:43):
late first round to the Giants. But we've seen quarterbacks
taken high, we've seen them taken low. We've seen them
with the last pick in the draft. You must be
able to play the position and understand the position. It
is not talent. There's certain sports where talent can take over.
You can go out there and be a basketball player
and not really know how to play basketball, but you
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can still play. You can be in the game. You
can actually be really good because you have talent. And
Anthony Richardson has talent, But that will only get you
so far. I mean, if you look at the list
of great quarterbacks, it's not necessarily athleticism. It is how
do I lead? How do I get out of the huddle,
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change the play at the line of scrimmage? How do
I process what's going on? Hey, I'm going to check down.
Do I protect the football? Do I go down for
a sack instead of trying to make something? I mean,
these are all the things that you just check You
got to do all these things if you have any
chance of being successful. But I feel bad for Anthony
Richardson because he didn't draft him and he's a project.
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He's still raw. He's going to be one of those guys.
And we're seeing this now more and more, and Daniel
Jones is one of those guys. You get that second chance,
Gino Smith, you get that second chance. Sam Darnold, you
get a second chance. That's what happens now that all
of a sudden, it's two years and we move on,
and then you'll bring in somebody else, because this is
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what you ultimately hear by That quarterback class for next
year is great already thinking all right, what are we
gonna do next year? Who are we gonna draft next year?
I mean, the Browns are gonna go through this situation.
You know Joe Flacco is not the starter next year?
Are they gonna give shad Or Sanders and Dylan Gabriel
(06:33):
an opportunity to prove if they can be a starter. Well,
they get this year and then maybe next year. But
the Browns have two first round draft picks the Rams.
The Rams will probably move on from Matthew Stafford after
this year. Is Stetson Bennett going to be the heir apparent.
There they have two first round draft picks. It's so
enticing to go that guy. I see what we have here,
(06:58):
But that guy, he's got pull two man. Look at him.
He's carving up SEC defenses. We see this every single year.
But Anthony Richardson, we can label him a bust or
at least potentially a bust. But the pick is the bust.
Mitchell Trubisky, the pick is the bust Trey Lance. Maybe
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they weren't ready to play, and we've seen that. I
keep thinking, Trey Lance, maybe he can still play, but
what's he on his third team now? He might not
be able to be a starter in the league. But
then there are other guys that you go, Jacoby Brissett
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knows how to play the game. He might not be
high end, but why is it Jacoby Brissett or Teddy
Bridgewater can play better than somebody who is as talented
as Anthony Richardson or Joe Flacco. I can outrun him.
We're about the same age. But he's just out there playing.
(08:03):
Here's Joe talking about being a forty year old quarterback.
Speaker 5 (08:09):
It's always one of those things that, like I think
as a football player. You just want to play. But
I think you got to give a lot of credit
to obviously Tom for anybody even thinking about doing it.
Obviously there was guys before you have, you know, Warren
Moon and I talked about it a couple weeks. Who
have any testaverity and other guys that have done it.
But I mean he pushed the boundaries like he did
(08:30):
in absolutely everything. No surprise that he did it in
that way as well. But you know, it's I don't
think it's necessarily something that I actively think about until
people kind of remind me with texts and things like that,
and you guys ask me about it. I don't think
it's a huge deal right now, but I'm sure when
I look back on it, it'll be pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Yeah, it doesn't make sense right because the position has evolved.
Now you don't have to be six or five stationary
with a rocket for an arm. Now we kind of
it's open to interpretation, but it still comes back to
can you play the position? And I like an Anthony
Richardson too. It's a piece of property and it overlooks
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the water, and man, that looks gorgeous. I wonder what
we could build on that piece of property. Meanwhile, Joe Flacco,
he's just a you know, maybe a condominium and moves
as fast as a condominium, you know, two bedroom condo.
There's our guy. I mean, you can have Brady who
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as a mansioner, John Elway, or those guys Anthony Richardson
and some of these younger quarterbacks. It's just a piece
of property that has a great view or the potential
for something really nice. But can you play the position?
And when I talked to my source last night, he
went over his notes and I just kept going check, check, check,
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and he said, sometimes we'll fall in love with one
or two plays and we go, oh my goodness, did
you see that? And there is a play that Anthony
Richardson has. I think it's a sixty yard pass. It's gorgeous.
It's unbelievable. It's like when Zach Wilson had his pro
day and he did the let me turn and go
left and throw right and do the Mahomes thing. Oh
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my god, you see that. I go, that doesn't mean anything.
I mean, it's nice, but it doesn't mean It's like
the guy in your backyard who's just he's unbelievable. And
then he gets into a structured game and he can't play,
and that's what happens. We fall in love with a
highlight or two. We're so highlight driven and it comes
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down to every single day, every single game, all of
those moments.
Speaker 6 (10:45):
Yeah, pulling and the Colts, going back to when Anthony
Richardson was a rookie, ignored everything you would do with
a rookie who's a project. They announced him as the
starter for week one. Halfway through training camp on August fifteenth,
they had Gardner Minshew, they can let Minshew handle the
first half of the season and handed it off to
Richardson literally, and they didn't, and he got hurt in
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games two and three and that curtailed him. And the
other thing is, you know, Patrick Mahomes sat his rookie year.
Mahomes because they thought of him as a project. And
that guy had like seventy touchdowns in college passing.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Yeah, he came in as a gunslinger. They weren't quite sure.
You know, you're gonna kind of have to reel him
in a little bit there. He wants to be like Farv. Well,
he understands how to play the game. He can throw
for fifty touchdowns, or he can throw for twenty five.
But the bottom line, he's going to win games. His
stats last year weren't great. Would they lose one game?
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One game in the regular season when he threw for
fifty touchdowns? They lost four games. It's understanding how to
win a game? What do I need to do today?
What do I need to do this quarter? What do
I need to do in the final two minutes? How
many of those quarterbacks? How many times do we say
that with Tom Brady three minutes ago, two minutes ago,
he's got the ball. Oh boy, you're gonna lose. It
(12:05):
just happened. Why he just knew how to win a game.
John Elway two minutes ago. Damn, he's got the ball.
Speaker 7 (12:14):
We're gonna lose.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
The question is how are we? Hey, let's guess how
we're going to lose. You can have great athleticism, great talent,
but you have to have a mind for the game.
But you also have to have a coaching staff that
doesn't have turnover that you have the same offensive coordinator,
you know, the same coach that is so important and underrated. Yeah, Pauline.
Speaker 6 (12:37):
I went back and looked at Anthony Richardson's draft profile,
by Lancier Line of NFL dot Com, and the player
comp is Cam Newton. But he wraps up by saying,
imagine if Cam Newton didn't do anything in college. Really,
Cam Newton had all the production and won and had
everything and passed and ran. Anthony Richardson got benched his
last year for another player, And they said, it's got
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tons of upside, but it's one of the bigger risks
if someone takes him in the first round. That was
said before the draft.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Yeah, and you would watch a game, there'd be times
where you couldn't take your eyes off of him, and
then there'd be other times when you're watching and nothing
stood out. But is he gonna play this year? I
think with the coaching staff probably coaching for their jobs,
he's probably going to have to find a job elsewhere
to play. But he's got two years left on his contract.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
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Speaker 2 (14:13):
Watching some baseball last night, and I've been watching a
lot of the Yankees because the Yankees are on a
terror now. You can hit home runs during the regular season,
you can overwhelm teams during the regular season. This is
about postseason success. And I'm watching the Yankees and I'm going,
all right, that's a lot of home runs that they've hit.
They've hit fourteen home runs in the last two games.
(14:36):
That's a staggering amount. But this lineup has been very good.
They lead baseball at scoring over five runs per game.
As the calendar creeps to September and dips into October.
This is about pitching, and the Yankees have the sixteenth
best team ERA. Now they lost to Garrett Cole before
the season even started, But six months you can have
(14:59):
an elite lineup been bludging your way to some success
and get a playoff berth. But if you're going to
win a World Series, it's going to be about pitching
come September and certainly October. Speaking of pitching, show, Hao Tani.
He got roughed up his first career start at corps Field.
He gave up five runs, nine hits in four innings,
(15:20):
also took a comebacker off the leg. He did have
a double on a walk to extend his on base
streak to eighteen games. You know the Padres, Oh wow, wow, Okay,
the Padres aren't going away. They're kind of hanging there
a game behind. Is that our first overrated for show?
(15:41):
Hao tani't br last either.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
I'll tell you that.
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What the heck?
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had Mark Pryor on yesterday, he's the Dodgers pitching coach,
(16:10):
when we talked about show Heyo Tani because they're trying
to give him more innings and I'm watching the game
and he was getting roughed up, and they kept him
out there, get a few more pitches, a few more innings,
and then they finally took him out. But Pryor said
that there could be a possibility of a relief appearance
(16:32):
for show Hayo Tani come postseason time, that that is
being considered by the Dodgers. You look at him as
a starting pitcher. Plus, here's the thing with being a closer.
If you're going to be in the field, how are
you going to warm up. It's almost as if you're
a DH now you can go warm up, But you
don't want Sho hau Tani warming up and then not
(16:55):
getting into the game because closers will tell you nothing
worse than you think you're going to go. You get
warmed up, Skip says, go out there, start throwing, and
then you don't get in the game can't do that
with Otani. But as far as his starting pitching, he
looked pedestrian last night against Colorado. The new one improved Rockies,
(17:17):
but just some of the baseball that I saw last night.
Speaker 6 (17:20):
Yes, Paul, I was thinking about this, that Otani's going
to win the MVP going away this year, even though
his numbers are quite a bit down hitting from last year.
I mean, he had fifty nine steals last year. He's
down to seventeen. His homers are a little down, his
batting average is a bit down, but it's like his
aura is going to win him these things. The options
the Dodgers had with him to close, start, play him,
(17:42):
not play him, it's like he's bigger than anyone else.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Clearly, well, he doesn't have competition. Kyle Schwarber is pretty
much one dimensional. But I do think he should be
in the race. I mean, he is in the race,
he's in second place. But I was curious Otani getting
roughed up. What that meant for the draft Kings odds
for Otani. So he was minus eight thousand yesterday to
win the MVP. Now it's minus six thousand, So he
(18:07):
went down two thousand points Kyle Schwarber was plus thirteen
hundred yesterday. He's plus nine hundred. The race is really
in the American League with Aaron Judge minus two hundred
and Cal Rawley is hanging in there. I think Rawley's
got to hit sixty home runs, at least sixty home runs,
and if he does and you're a playoff team, then
maybe he could win the MVP. But we might see
(18:30):
this happening for the next couple of years with Otani
and Aaron Judge and the PGA Tour Championship. Scotty Scheffler's
the overwhelming favorite starting today. This is Tiger like. Okay,
I'm not saying he's playing like Tiger or you know,
he is Tiger, the second coming a Tiger, But how
(18:51):
big of a favorite. That's Tiger like? He's plus one
point fifty. Rory McElroy is plus eight fifty. That's the
second best odds. This is Tiger like. College football this
weekend is week zero. Iowa State K State in Dublin.
I got Iowa State getting three. I'm curious about Stanford
(19:14):
at Hawaii, believe it or not yet Stanford getting two
and a half at Hawaii. Fresno State at Kansas. I'm
mildly curious about that. Presno State getting twelve and a
half at KU. See, these are games that I love.
These are the nobody loves us, nobody cares about us,
(19:35):
nobody respects us. And they'd be right, But I do.
I love watching these games, especially early in the season.
And maybe it's just I take any football. But here
we aren't two days away until college football, and we're
inching closer to the opening of the NFL. And speaking
of the NFL, we've spoken about this before, but now
(19:58):
you have the possibility of having a discussion of maybe
having the Super Bowl played in London. Now London wants this, Okay.
The UK Ambassador, Peter Mandelson lobbies for the Super Bowl
to be held in Britain. He's the US ambassador and
(20:18):
he's lobbying for the first super Bowl outside of the
United States. Okay, I this is how these things get started. Now,
if the Commissioner, if somebody has an opportunity to talk
to him and say, hey, what did you think of
the UK ambassador talking about a super Bowl? The Commissioner
will say the following, Oh, you know what, We've considered everything.
(20:41):
The growth of the sport and we play so many
games now the international part portion of this, and you know,
it's something that will take into consideration. But as for now,
we have the Super Bowl and we have you know,
cities that are locked in over the next X number
of years. I mean, but he will address it. I
(21:02):
don't know if he would give you no comment. If
he gave you no comment, well now I'm really interested.
But you might get some political speak from the commissioner,
but I think it's inevitable. And I don't know if
there's any of us who will turn it off or
not tune in because it's not in the United States.
Now you might have you know, that anti American sentiment
(21:25):
and you know, what are we doing and that's our sport. Well,
we shipped out Baseball opening Day. I don't know if
anybody was enraged by that except for me. The NBA
is expanding. Maybe there's a European portion of this, but
I think you're every sport's looking for growth, even golf. Now,
(21:46):
you know, golf just hired Tiger Woods, theo Epstein. They're
trying to look at the future of the sport and
they're promising there's big changes there. But Tiger was named
to a committee that's basically about the future of the sport,
and they promise big changes. And I don't know what
those big changes could be, but every sport is looking
(22:06):
for more revenue. How do we grow the game? And
there's going to be a separate TV package for the
international game. So the NFL is going to sell that
off for a billion dollars because now they have more revenue.
We've added another game. Now they'll add another game after that,
and then you're going to have maybe more international games.
But I think this is just inevitable with the growth
(22:28):
of the game Baseball. Baseball's talking about expansion, maybe four
new teams in here. Maybe they're going to have realignment.
Maybe we don't have an American league in the National League.
And I know if you're of my age or anybody
over fifty, you're probably saying he's ruining the sport. They're
going to ruin the sport. All of these commissioners know
(22:49):
where is the next piece of revenue because they have
to be holden. They're beholden to the owners because the
owners are saying, we got to make more money, we
got to make more money. College football, we're at twelve.
Now we'll go to fourteen or sixteen. And now you
have at least the possibility proposals on the table of
(23:10):
going to twenty four to twenty eight. March Madness sixty eight,
well you got to go to seventy two or seventy six.
Every one of these sports, it's about the growth. How
do we grow it, how do we make more money?
And that's happening right now, happening right now with baseball,
happening right now with the NBA, happening right now with
the NFL, and golf is trying to grow the sport again.
(23:35):
And you have the competition with Live Tour and now
Tiger's involved in this, theo Epstein, who's a baseball GM,
I mean, he's involved in this, and maybe there is
something that they'll do that I don't know what could
be drastic. I think, you know, maybe the number of events.
(23:55):
I like relegation, but you know, relegation. They have relegation
on Livetour and Ian Poulter I think just got relegated.
Why I know that, I don't know. I have no life,
but I think that's the interesting part of watching what
they're trying to do. And you can't stay stagnant. There's
(24:17):
some things this Baseball Commissioner has done that I think
are positive. I think that he's he earned criticism with
talking about the World Series Trophy was just a piece
of metal. When talking about the Astros, that was stupid.
The Pete Rose portion of putting him on the ballot
or making him eligible, that came from pressure from President Trump,
(24:38):
Roger Goodell. He's a businessman. It's growth of the game.
It's not necessarily for the betterment of the game. But
I don't think anybody's going to tune out the Super
Bowl if it's played in London. But I do think
we're going there. I don't know when, maybe it's ten years,
but maybe in our lifetime we're going to have a
(24:58):
Super Bowl outside the Unife States. Yes, Todd, is there.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Anything that these leaves can do? You know, while they're
chasing the next dollar and the greed and the revenue
that would really turn the sports fan off. They may
not love it, but ultimately, if you like sports, you're
going to watch. If there's extra college basketball teams in
the tournament, if there's extra college football teams in the
players say there really anything that they can do? Where
it's like, Wow, that's too much, No thanks, I'm not
watching this anymore.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Well, I wondered about this, and this is not on
the par of this, obviously, but when we were doing
Sports Center, and I remember my boss at the time,
Steve Bornstein, he said, we're going to reair Sports Center
all morning long, and I thought that's stupid, And then
all of a sudden, I realized there was a whole
(25:42):
generation that wasn't able to stay up at eleven o'clock
or you know, one o'clock in the morning. They got
to watch that in the morning. And you guys are
probably the demo that we appealed to. You got to
have Sports Center reairing starting at six in the morning
and went all morning long, and it would be the
same Sports Center, but there you were catering to an
(26:04):
audience that was missing out on staying up and watching
all the highlights. And it turned out to be a
brilliant move. But I don't know if can you get
too much football? Mark Cuban talked about this, was it
pigs get fat and hogs get slaughtered And we haven't
(26:25):
found that yet. We haven't found that. You can be
you'll push yourself away from the sports buffet.
Speaker 6 (26:33):
Yeah, Paul, I will say there's one thing that fans
are having and going to have a problem with this
upcoming year with football. If you want to watch all
the NFL games, like four or five years ago, if
you got the Red Zone package, you could watch everything,
one check, two hundred bucks.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
That's it.
Speaker 6 (26:48):
You were set for the season. Now you need Netflix, Peacock,
Amazon Prime, your basic cable channel for your local you're
get into. You need like seven different packages or subscriptions
to watch all the NFL game and it's it's it's
a labor to order all those and sign up for those,
and it's costly. You're getting to the point I did
some research on this. If you want to watch all
(27:09):
the NFL games this season, it's probably gonna cost you
eight hundred plus dollars in subscriptions, and four years ago
I would say it was about one ninety nine.
Speaker 7 (27:21):
Five years which is still expensive as hell one hundred
and nine now, but worth it. But it's it's not
nearly one thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (27:27):
Back when DirecTV had the red Zone and you could
sign up for DirecTV's Red Zone, you got the red
zone where you chopped up all the games, but then
the you could choose which game you go to. Now
you're looking at eight hundred bucks for the entire season
plus to get every package.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
And it's not going down by the way, it's not
gonna be Hey, they're gonna reduce this. Hey, loyal fans,
we're gonna give you a break, a bargain here.
Speaker 7 (27:52):
Yeah, it's not unlike trying to watch soccer where uh
you know, Peacock has the Premier League, Apple has MLS,
Paramount has USL, Fubo has the French League, ESPN has
the Spanish League. Now at least those are that's worldwide.
You're trying to get all these things. This is one
(28:13):
what Paul is referring to us one league in one country.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
I know, yes, yes, Tod, but you have to.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Believe they've done or they're doing some type of research
in the NFL officers, what is the absolute most we
can charge these people along with the networks where they'll
still keep paying, So we don't hit that spot where
we're gonna lose viewership, we're gonna lose dollars. We're gonna
push it to the last possible cent that we're willing
to spend.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Why wouldn't they Well, maybe if the commissioner comes on
the show, I can ask in such questions.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
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He's still out there on the road rocking. John Fogerty, singer, songwriter,
Hall of Famer, just turned eighty in May, and today
a new album, Legacy, is being released, as he re
recorded some of his most beloved songs with the help
of his sons, Shane and Tyler. Have you seen the rain?
(29:10):
Fortunate Son, Proud Mary, bad Moon Rising? But a big
baseball fan. His song center Field the only song to
be officially inducted into the Baseball Hall of Fame. As
we make way for John Fogerty, former lead singer of
Creeden's Clearwater Revival. John, great to talk to you again.
What was your reaction when you realized that the bat,
(29:32):
guitar and the song center Field were becoming part of
the Baseball Hall of Fame.
Speaker 11 (29:38):
Oh, that was right around maybe a couple months before
it actually happened. Is right around the time that it
occurred I didn't get a lot of time to think
about all the implications, you know. I was certainly very proud,
still proud.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
And then whose idea was it to make a guitar
out of a bass resemble a baseball bat?
Speaker 10 (30:02):
Oh, that was my idea.
Speaker 11 (30:05):
I'd written center Field, you know, more or less deciding
that that's kind of where my mind had been over
the all the years of my life, you know, and
it just felt comfortable about you know, Centerfield as an
album was kind of a comeback for me, you might say,
(30:25):
career wise, and the place to me that was sort
of ground zero was center field. It seemed like, especially
on a lot of teams, the alpha male on the
team seemed to be the center fielder, you know, like
Willie Mays with the Giants, or back in the day
Babe Ruth before they moved him to right field. I
(30:45):
think Joe Demajio, Mickey Mannle.
Speaker 10 (30:50):
You know, go on.
Speaker 11 (30:51):
But anyway, and so I wrote the song and then
eventually decided to name the album center Field. Actually it's
the reverse. I named the album center Field and didn't.
Speaker 10 (31:05):
Have a salt.
Speaker 11 (31:07):
And then I came up with that guitar lick, you know,
and realized that I started. I started just saying the
things I said in life. I'd watched the Saturday Game
of the week baseball, you know, there was one game
on TV on Saturday, and I'd sit down and watch
that and I'd be yelling at the screen screen, you know,
(31:29):
like we do when something good happen or bad. And
sometimes there'd be a phenom, you know, and something going
not going well with the team you're rooting for, and
I'd be yelling.
Speaker 10 (31:40):
Put me in, coach, put me.
Speaker 11 (31:41):
You know. It's just you know, how you enjoy and
interact with the game. And all of that stuff started
coming out when I was playing that guitar lick and
I realized I had a song that.
Speaker 10 (31:54):
Could be center field. So that came first.
Speaker 11 (31:58):
The album came out in eighty five and it was
a big success and all that, and I decided, well,
you know, I'm going to be touring pretty soon. Wow,
it'd be cool to be able to play center field
on a baseball bat.
Speaker 10 (32:12):
So that's how it started for me.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Now, clear up something, because I think I asked you
about this a while ago that you say brown eyed
handsome man, and I thought you were talking about Joe
Demagio because he played center field, and you said, it's
not about Joe Demagio, It's about Jackie Robinson.
Speaker 11 (32:32):
Absolutely, I realize he's not the center fielder. And I
guess I took a little tributary in the musical world there,
but it just seemed important to me. That's a line
that's in a Chuck Berry song, Brown Eyed Handsome Man,
and he talks about ground and third headed and for home,
(32:54):
and so that I just sort of borrowed that in
my homage to Jackie Robinson. After all, if I'm writing
a baseball song, you better be in there.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
We're talking to John Fogerty, formerly of Creden's Clearwater Revival
rock and roll Hall of Famer, has a new album
called Legacy that comes out today, some re recordings with
his sons Shane and Tyler. You got fortunate son. Have
you seen the rain? Proud Mary? So tell me what
went into this project.
Speaker 11 (33:25):
Well, you know, I recently got my songs back the
ownership a couple of years ago, and that's a great
big deal of any songwriter, of course, or any writer
of any kind of material. And so finally, after more
than fifty years of trying, I finally got the ownership.
Speaker 10 (33:47):
Of those songs back.
Speaker 11 (33:49):
It was actually facilitated by my dear wife, Julie. She's
the one that really manifested this and made it happen.
You know, she's a force of nature and God bless her.
So with that in mind, finally accomplishing that, it just
seemed kind of a natural progression to hear in the present,
(34:14):
you know, I just turned eighty this year, and the
idea basically was, well, what do you do?
Speaker 10 (34:20):
What kind of a gift would I like?
Speaker 11 (34:23):
So I decided to give myself a gift and record
a lot of the old Creeden songs I had written
so many years ago again and hopefully it would be
seen as a gift also to my fans. And that
was the motivation, this time involving my family, meaning my
(34:45):
wife and certainly my sons Shane and Tyler, who are
in my band, and they helped produce the record as well.
So it was a family endeavor, you know, a lot
of love in that respect making this record.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Take me back to Woodstock. What day were you on
with Creden's Clearwater Revival?
Speaker 11 (35:11):
Well, it was supposed to be on Saturday night. The
man on the phone had promised me that a prime spot,
you know, the headlining spot on Saturday night. It's going
to be nine o'clock. Man, that's prime time. But things
got later and later and later. This was, of course
(35:32):
during the era of hippies. I'm not sure anybody actually
had a watch.
Speaker 10 (35:37):
But the whole program got later and later, and somewhere around.
Speaker 11 (35:41):
Midnight of Saturday, the Grateful Dead went on, and then
they sort of stalled around on stage for a while.
Speaker 10 (35:49):
Nobody quite knew what was going on.
Speaker 11 (35:51):
I believe Credence went on Sunday morning.
Speaker 10 (35:54):
Early around.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Were you when Hendrix set his guitar on fire.
Speaker 10 (36:03):
No, that was actually Monday morning.
Speaker 11 (36:07):
That was after the whole night of Sunday, you know,
the whole festivities of the Sunday evening going into twelve
am and one and two and three, then the sun
came up, and that's Monday morning when Jimmy went on.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
The difference in your voice now at eighty as opposed
to thirty.
Speaker 11 (36:27):
Ah, well, I know my falsetto is not quite as
strong and pure as it used to be. You know,
it's a little different around the edges, I think, but
it's certainly as strong. I'm certainly as loud as I
ever was, and that's probably as much to I've been
a runner all my life, and so I think all
(36:48):
those miles of running kind of helped my stamina.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Well, congrats on a great run, and it's not over.
He's a rock and roll Hall of Famer as a
songwriter and of course as a singer. Best to the family, certainly,
Julie and John, thank you for joining us.
Speaker 10 (37:04):
Thank you, Dan, It's always great to see you.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
John Fogerty. The album is Legacy being released today. I
met him. I'm trying to think how many years ago,
this almost ten years ago at Howard Stern's sixtieth birthday party,
and Gary Delabate, Howard's longtime producer, invited me to come
on and introduce Dave Grohl, and I said, okay. But
(37:33):
I get there and immediately I'm told by somebody, Hey,
John Fogerty wants to meet you. I'm thinking, all right,
this is I mean, it's the Howard Stern Show. So
I'm you know, somebody's punking me here. You know, Baba
Booie is going to jump out or you know, stuttering
John or somebody. And I go back, you know, through
(37:55):
these hallways, and all of a sudden, I just walked
up to a door and knock on the door, and
John's wife answers. I said, I'm supposed to say hello
to John, and she goes, he's been waiting for you.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
I walk in and there he is.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
He's got his plaid shirt, his signature plaid shirt on
and he listens every morning in Los Angeles. And I said, okay,
this has already proven to be a great night. Then
I go back into this kind of a green room
and I got Slash from Guns n' Roses, and I
(38:32):
got Dave Groll. You know, you got all these people
and they're kind of getting ready to go on and
have their performances. And I walk up to Dave Grohl
and I said, hey, I'm introducing you. He goes, I
don't know anything about sports. My daughter's play lacrosse. I said, well,
I'm yeah, that has nothing to do with the introduction.
He goes, yeah, this is what I want you to
(38:54):
say that I grew up listening to Howard on a
Ham radio and I said okay, And then I just
wanted to get it over with because I mean I
had already had my highlight. I met John Fogerty, go out,
sayaloa to Robin saalo to, Howard introduced Dave Grohl, and
then I'm out the door. But you know, one of
(39:14):
those surreal moments because there's John Fogerty rock and roll
Hall of Famer and gave us so many great songs
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