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We'll work in reverse order. We'll start with Bill Belichick
last night and his debut at North Carolina.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
It did not go well. In fact, it was embarrassing.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Here is just a portion of a column that was
written by the Charlotte News and Observers sports columnist Luke decoc.
He starts out to say, forget the cutoff sleeves. The
alleged football genius got pantsed in his college debut. North
Carolina paid ten million dollars for Bill Belichick and got
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sold a bill of goods. The students gave up before
the third quarter was over, right after the defense. It's
certainly possible that this could have been worse for Belichick
and the tar Heels, but that's an argument over a
matter of degrees. Belichick and his brain trust promised the
thirty third NFL team, and yes, was certainly at the
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same level of what the Cleveland Browns annually perpetrate on
their fans. Ouch, that's a local reaction. Bill got humbled.
And if you're looking for a great way to start
a college career, North Carolina had that first drive oh
Man touchdown cutaway Michael Jordan, all the luminaries, dignitaries. We
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got a beautiful night here for Carolina football, and they
forgot that TCU also was going to play as well.
And TCU was favored in that game. And I'm watching
the pregame and I understand you want to feature Belichick.
He's not interesting. He doesn't say anything interesting. The look
of him is kind of interesting on the sidelines. But
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Rhys Davis sat down and did an interview with him,
and Holly Road did an interview with him. He's meant
to be looked at and watch the results, not listen
to because there's very little that he's going to tell you.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
So you're watching.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
This is different than Dion, and Dion opened up with
TCU as well. Dion is charismatic, he's interesting, flamboyant. But
you're watching Bill and they brought in seventy new players. Incredible,
incredible to have seventy new players and then try to
get them all to be ready to go week one
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against a quality opponent. Yes, you're at home, but after
a while, after the first five minutes, then all that
wears off. Now you've got to play football. And they
looked woefully unprepared and TCU played really well, but you
just don't expect that from Bill Belichick. You don't expect
him to be out coached, as he said. Here is
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Belichick after North Carolina was blown out.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
You know, any time you give up two turnovers to
touchdowns offensively, that's not good. We gave up several long
plays on defense, you know where they gained a lot
of ours on one play. So it's just too many
of those. There wasn't any one thing. It was a
combination of multiple things. Too many three and out's too
many long plays on defense and then two turnovers. Well
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we have three turnovers, two turnovers touchdowns. They can overcome that.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
TCU had five hundred and forty two total yards on offense.
Second time in four hundred and sixty eight NFL and
college games Bill Belichick, a Belichick coach team has given
up that many yards. Stat of the Day brought to
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you by Panini America. A lot of games to go over,
and you can look at this as parody because okay,
let's start Week zero. Iowa State knocks off k State.
That's in Ireland. You know one is ranked twenty two.
One is so that's not a big thing. Ohio State
taking down arch Manning in Texas, you had LSU over Clemson.
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You know, these are mild upsets. Florida State stunning Alabama
and we'll talk a little bit more about that. Miami
beating Notre Dame was not a surprise. So these things
are going to happen this year. I don't know if
you're going to have a great team. Keep in mind
all the players of Ohio State lost to the NFL.
You lose your quarterback, I mean, you lose your running
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back and they're at home. Yes, and Texas came in
with all the fanfare, number one and you got arch
Manning and it proved to be too much. Now, Texas
could have won the game. I think people are reacting
that oh man arch looked terrible and they got blown out.
They could have won this game. And it's not like
Ohio State was great. I thought the defense was great.
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But you know, was it big for arch Manning? Too
big for arch Manning? Yes, it certainly felt that way,
but I got to get a let Let's I caution
people every year. Don't overreact. So he went from Heisman
to he shouldn't even be on the list. Texas, they're
not great Ohio State's great boy. Alabama is terrible, Florida
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State is back Notre Dame. We don't overreact. It's fun too,
but you have to caution yourself with this because Arch
will come back and probably have a really good game
against an inferior opponent, and then we'll go, Okay, Belichick.
Next game, I think is that Charlotte, and you'll probably
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win that. We'll go all right, well, he kind of
all right, it's not going to.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Be that bad.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
The Alabama result is the one that stands out over
all of them because, and give credit Florida State, Florida
State was the better team and their defensive line was wonderful,
well offensive line as well. But I go back to
Kaylin de Boor, who felt like he was the hottest
coach in America at Washington, and you can't turn down Alabama.
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Nick Saban didn't have to replace Nick Saban. Kayland Boor
has to replace Nick Saban. And Nick Saban is omnipresident
on the Mothership, so it's not like he's he's gone,
you don't see him anymore. He's right there. And Caylen
de Boor and Alabama, they they got roughed up in
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more ways than one, and then you start to think about,
you know, bigger picture here. Now, I think Belichick has
probably done after one year anyway, maybe two years, but
you know that might be that you know, he still
wants to go back to the NFL, which I think
going to college and what's happened in college, I'm less
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likely to see him. And in fact, when he left the
Patriots so they fired him, I said he won't coach
in the NFL again. There's just too much there. But
you got the Alabama situation and immediately you start having
people go that's the buyout for Kaylen de Boor. That
didn't take long, and that's where we overreact. Let's just
wait and see how good this team is. But what
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we saw over the weekend Florida State roughing them up.
In seventeen years at Alabama, Nick Saban lost four games
to unranked opponents. That's the same number of losses to
unranked opponents kayland Boor has in his first two seasons
at Alabama.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Woo stall of a day, Stalla day, stall outa day,
stant outa day.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
This is the style of the day, so again ranked opponents.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Saban was one twenty four and four.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Debaor is six and four, and all of a sudden,
you can look around and go, what's that buyout for
Kaylen de Boor?
Speaker 3 (08:51):
And I, you know.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Sometimes we look at players and I go, give me
a larger sample size here, and I liken Zach Wilson
going number two overall to Kaylin de Boor going to
Alabama Like wow, okay, And I don't want to overreact,
but I didn't see promising results in week in the
year one. And now you open up with Florida State.
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Now it's at Florida State. They obviously were terrible last year.
Chip on their shoulder, we're a proud, proud team. And
Alabama went in there and Florida State did not care.
They didn't care who you are, what you are. And
that's what's surprising. When Saban left, Alabama was still good.
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Now he resigned abruptly. I think he was just done
with all the transfer portal and nil and all of that.
You know, it's terrible. It's rooning college football. Kaylen de
bor comes in after a successful year at Washington. Doesn't
mean you're the right guy for that job. Doesn't mean
he can't be a really good coach, but you can't
pass up Alabama. I understand that, but that's the one
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that surprised me. And it wasn't a fluke. I mean,
when Florida State went up big, I'm thinking, yeah, they're
a far better team, and they certainly showed them. But
Ohio State winning I wasn't surprised in that atmosphere. I mean,
Ohio State offensively didn't do much, but they did just
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enough and that defense was wonderful. Miami as well against
Notre Dame, I was not surprised at that. Here's the
stat for you. The last time Texas, Notre Dame in
Alabama all lost in the same week twenty seventeen Thanksgiving weekend,
Texas lost to Texas Tech, Notre Dame lost to Stanford,
Alabama lost to Auburn. And you know, there's no gimmes
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in the SEC. It's not like Alabama can go well.
You know, we have some easy games. When you get
into the SEC, they're not easy games, you know, Belichick
in North Carolina, you're still in the ACC. All right,
You've got a couple of games you gotta worry about,
but you can still maybe carve out eight wins here.
That's I think the over unders eight eight and a
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half something like that, which is what we thought they
were probably going to be doing. But Belichick is always
great at the next time around making adjustments. Now, if
this was an NFL game, I would have thought, Okay,
Belichick's going to really adjust in the second half or
the third core, maybe the fourth quarter, He's going to adjust.
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It's seventy new players. That's enormous, and I think that's
the herculean task, is to get seventy players in a
short period of time to understand exactly what we're trying
to do here. And they looked inept, they look unprepared,
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they were overmatched. And I did feel bad for LSU
because I'm watching the game, you know, pregame, and I'm going,
guys acknowledged TCU, acknowledge TCU. Do something, and Reees Davis
sat down with Bill Belichick. Okay, and let's go to
Holly Row with Bill Belichick. Do something on TCU. They're
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favored in this game. Hey, Michael Jordan's here, do something,
Lawrence Taylor's here, Mia Ham's.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Here, do something on TCU.
Speaker 6 (12:24):
Yes, there was this one shot where it was like
it was like Michael Jordan, Lawrence Taylor and I forget
who else is all sitting together?
Speaker 3 (12:34):
And Roy Williams, Yeah, Roy Williams. And then they cut away.
Speaker 6 (12:37):
To a real Randy Moscow and crazy like everybody was there.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Yep, And I thought, just just be fair with your coverage,
just to protect yourself. Everybody's picking North Carolina to win
the game. Meanwhile, TCU was favored, I think by three
and a half and that first drive and I thought.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Wow, that's impressive.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Then a three and out by t and I go wow.
And then all of a sudden, I went, wow, North
Carolina's bad.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Yeah, Paul, But.
Speaker 7 (13:06):
Do you think it's way too much of an overaction
for a blowout? Like that column you read a couple
of minutes ago. They basically declared the writer said, this
is over. This experiment is a failure. Bill Belichick's first
year in New England, he was five and eleven. Then
he won three of the next four Super Bowls. It
seems like you should people should have a little more
faith in his expertise more than an August football game.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
I would, except for recruiting is about personality, and Bill
doesn't have a personality. Bill is give me, give me
the groceries, and I'll make a meal better than anybody.
That's what he does. Recruiting is about. You got to
go talk to Jimmy Lipper and you know, you know,
Jimmy Skinjeal and Tommy Kelamari and you got to talk
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to all their parents and gladhand and boosters. And that's
not what he's built for. And you bring in seventy
new new players and I don't I don't know if
he one of those guys that brings them together, you know,
like Dion brings them together. Bell's like, all right, well
played TCU.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Uh, let's go get him.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
This is different. And by the way, he did have
Tom Brady. I mean that helped in a really good
defense when he got there. People don't care what your
resume is, like none of these guys Sonny Dykes at
TCUs like, all right, that's Belichick. You're not playing everybody.
That's what they kept saying. Belichick ain't playing, so don't
worry about it. All right, let's see what he can do.
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And you saw that. But I thought TCU did a
wonderful job kind of staying in the moment and not
letting it become too big.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Oh Todd, you had the wrong credit because there's a
Shawtt observer. Luke dea cockworks for the Raleigh News and observers.
Oh the pitch, we had that right, that was something
I had wrong.
Speaker 8 (14:54):
I thought it with show, but it's the Raleigh paper.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
So we started out with an error. Yeah, okay, we
just rectified it.
Speaker 6 (15:00):
That's actually Duke Lecoq writes for the Charlotte Observer as
Luke Takak.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
But unlike North Carolina, we will recover from this week.
Will thank you already?
Speaker 2 (15:10):
All right, So best and worst of the weekend. Once
you saw that you liked you didn't like. We hear
from arch Manning coming up about his performance, don't overreact.
He's I know, I'm watching and I go, oh my gosh,
this guy's going to get roughed up.
Speaker 7 (15:27):
Yes, Paul, I saw some graphic on the screen and
in no context at arch Manning. Oh and one in
his career. Peyton Manning won his first career start and
art Eli Manning won his first career start. Peyton Manning
was at home against East Carolina and Eli Manning was
at home against Murray State.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
They weren't at the Shoe in.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Augusta against the defending National Champs a pill. But you
know he oh, he can't win the Heisman. Now, okay,
he lost on the road to the defending national champs.
He can still win the Heisman. I said he wouldn't
win the Heisman. Somebody in this room said he would
cruise to the Heisman.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
But it's early. Let's just see.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Let's just see how this all plays out. Instead of
here's my reaction, here's my hot take, and now I
move on from that. Texas is still a great team.
I thought both coaches didn't do well in trying to
take some chances. I thought Texas was going to take
more chances with Arch now Julian Say and the Ohio
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State quarterback. I understand that. I'm going to let's just easy, man.
Hopefully our defense can win this game, keep us in
this make a couple of plays. I still thought we
would have a little bit more firepower. That was a
big surprise on both sides.
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Speaker 2 (17:23):
I come in today and I see the LA Clippers
are trending, and I go, what first week is September?
What James Harden shaved his beard? And I don't think
that's why they're trending. And then I realize they're trending
for a batter reason. Pablo Tory. Pablo Tory finds out podcasts,
metal art, media, and the Athletic Contributor. To pardon the interruption,
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all right, summarize your report on the Clippers. Steve Balmer
and Kawhi Leonard.
Speaker 9 (17:54):
Hello, Dan, we got to stop meeting like this. It's
always it's always something. Let me get together.
Speaker 10 (18:01):
You may recall how in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 9 (18:02):
The NBA investigated the signing of Kawhi Leonard by the Clippers.
This was the Uncle Dennis story, him asking for all
the sweeteners the side deals. This was the Lakers, the Raptors,
very mad, lots of teams, very mad. NBA investigates says,
this is a cardinal sin. Salary caps are convention, but
they find nothing. Today. We have given something. I dare
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say to anybody who cares about this stuff, and the
stuff here is kind of wild. This is a story
that started because of a company called Aspiration, which no
one really remembers in fairness, but they had signed some
of the most famous people in the world to be endorsers.
Leonardo DiCaprio, Drake, Robert Downey Junior, Cindy Crawford, Cindy Crawford's daughter,
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all people who endorsed this climate change company that planted
trees to zero out your carbon footprint, like good guys,
only for those same good guys to have since been
embroiled in what has been a concurrent Department of Justice
and SEC investigations that have resulted in guilty please by
one of the co founders of the company, a prominent
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Democratic politician and donor named Joe Sandberg, who happens to
have also been a buddy of Steve Bomber and Steve Bomber.
In this story, we establish and report, using over three
thousand documents and seven sources from inside the company, put
in fifty million dollars of his own money into Aspiration.
Very long lined up. I apologize for taking so long.
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Here's the punchline. The endorsement deal that was the biggest
that Aspiration signed given all those A List avengers, happened
to be Kawhi Leonard twenty eight million dollars, more than
four times the rest of the celebrity roster combined. And
the kicker, you might argue, is that he didn't do anything.
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It was a no show job, did nothing, wasn't obligated
to do anything, which you can explain if you want,
but the point being it was a secret deal that
no one knew about until now.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
NBA have anything to say yet.
Speaker 9 (20:06):
Not yet, not yet, I should say, Steve Bomber and
the Clippers, when we asked them for comment, they said
that this was provably false, that they denied it. They
did not know at the time that we had over
three thousand pages of documents and seven sources. I look
forward to the improving the falsehoods that they allege. I
can tell you though, from the NBA perspective, what I've
been told this morning is that it's been a bit
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of panic over there. I'm told that they did not
know about this deal between Steve Bomber, or at the
very least between Aspiration and Kawhi Leonard, with the influence
of Steve Bomber, according to our reporting, being the driving
force of it. So yeah, it's going to get a
little messy Dan over there, I think what rule did
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the Clippers break? So salary caps or convention is something
that the NBA has decided to in previous statements state
very seriously. So kawhile only signed max contracts, so signed
the first one coming off of Toronto. The extension in
twenty twenty one is what lines up with the timeline
here that we are explaining the twenty eight million dollars
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above and beyond the max deal he signed. He signed
another extension just last year. And so the thing here is,
and this is I think a bit of the character study.
Steve Bomber is the richest owner in all of sports
in the world. He's the sixth richest man on the planet.
And so if you know anything about how the Clippers
have operated, right the Intuit Dome a building, as he says,
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built in his own image for hardcore basketball fans like him,
using personal private money, no taxpayer funds. He is a
guy who's expanded his front office, hired a zillion people.
Because that is uncapped, he can spend all the money
on that. But the most important thing this hardcore basketball
fan needed, of course, taking over the team from noted
bad guy Donald Sterling is a franchise superstar. And so
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the rule alleged to have been broken here is that
cardinal rule. You gotta stay within the salary cap for
your actual players. And seven sources say that was deliberately
what was not.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Done, But was there a way that they could They
could argue that Kawhi Leonard did represent the company. He
was a name that was attached Like I'm just looking
at if I'm the Clippers, how do I get deniability?
Speaker 10 (22:22):
Yeah, it's hard.
Speaker 9 (22:24):
It's hard because typically, you know, there's this funny phrase
in courtrooms you hear, like, you know, the absence of
evidence is not evidence. Well, in this case, he was
endorsing a company, and the absence of evidence is the
absence of any endorsement, no tweets, no retweets, no favorites,
no likes, no appearances, no nothing. According to the Internet,
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according to the sources, we have nothing. And so the
absence of evidence happens to be in this very narrow
but meaningful way the evidence. And they might say, well,
Steve Barmer didn't know about this. But here is now
where I think all of this becomes a bit of
an IQ test, because what I haven't mentioned that we
get to in the story is that Aspiration was not
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merely some random company. Aspiration on media Day of twenty
twenty one, and you can go to the press conference
footage and find it, they are announced as this founding
sponsor of the Los Angeles Clippers. They are signage everywhere.
Back of your court side seat says Aspiration Dan. They
were gonna get the Jersey patch. The company collapsed into
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ruin and disgrace before they got there, but that was
the agreement.
Speaker 10 (23:33):
It was announced their headlines everywhere you can find them.
Speaker 9 (23:36):
You can see the video Steve Bomber right next to
the guy who pled guilty to two counts of wire
fraud just two weeks ago, so you can say we
didn't know about this, but then the IQ test is
and this is another bit of reporting. Then why and
this is according to the sources who are on tape,
the one source we have who agreed to go on
tape with voice modulation because of the federal investigations that
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are ongoing and concur.
Speaker 10 (24:01):
In their experience.
Speaker 9 (24:04):
Uncle Dennis was calling as the company was declining and
unable to pay its bills.
Speaker 10 (24:09):
Was calling saying pay us.
Speaker 9 (24:12):
And inside of Aspiration, what is very clear is that
the number one priority, that is a quote, the number
one priority for this collapsing fake Green Bank was you
gotta pay Kawhi Leonard. As bankruptcy was on the horizon,
as no one could pay their bills. As no one
else was getting paid, Kawhi was getting paid. And the
question I ask you is why was he priority number
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one for doing nothing at a company that could not
pay its bills. It would seem that there was some
influence from behind the scenes.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Pablo Tory, It's Pablo Tory finds out podcast, Metal Art
Media and the Athletic. Was it Joe Smith? Timberwolves? What
was that five first round draft picks that they were docked.
I mean, if this is all true, I got to
believe that precedent has been set here.
Speaker 10 (25:03):
Bablo, Oh oh yeah.
Speaker 9 (25:04):
Look, there's a history lesson here, right, Joe Smith and
Glenn Taylor. Glenn Taylor the piece of paper they wrote
off the books number one overall pick, getting that side
deal five picks. Glenn Taylor was suspended. Kevin McHale, the
GM of the team twenty five years ago at the time,
was put on leave. Fines were levied, millions of dollars
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were levied. But I would say that there's a difference here.
And Mark Stein tweeted this out helpfully because I defer
to people who've been covering this stuff even longer than
me when it comes to well how does.
Speaker 10 (25:35):
This play out?
Speaker 9 (25:37):
He said, it was staggering and unprecedented what is being
alleged in our reporting. And so you could argue, at
least Stein argues, this is more than the Joe Smith story, right,
This is actually far more sophisticated and yet stupid at
the same time, given everything that I just gave a
long wind up on. And look, man, Dan, you and
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I I love by the way that you care about
these stories because I don't know if anybody really does
with your level of providence in your platform in that way.
But how this sausage gets made behind the scenes with
owners and leagues. Steve Bomber is the richest owner in
all sports and Adam Silver's boss, right, So this is
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not a real justice system in the NBA. This is
a business deal they got to strike. How do you
punish your own boss? What are the other bosses, the
twenty nine others you have, What do they have to
say about it? It's a fascinating parlor game what the
punishment ends up being.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
And we don't know if those other owners have their
own little shell game going. I don't know how in
your reporting, if you know, you're stumbling upon other owners
who you know, because people love to talk. Once the
first you know person gets outed, Now all of a sudden,
it feels like it's safe to out other people.
Speaker 9 (26:53):
Yeah, the difference here, And by the way, it's funny,
like my tip line has never been more more used
by by enemies of Jalen Brunson, right, like a look
into look into that one?
Speaker 10 (27:06):
Right as well as you know, James.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Is there something in there with Jalen Brunson.
Speaker 9 (27:12):
Well, look how he arrived at the next This is
where I will have to defer to the reporting I
may or may not do on this certainly was interesting, right, like, Okay,
that's a pretty good deal for the next has some whatever. Anyway,
I don't want to get ahead of myself in terms
of it.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
That's a tease. That's a tease.
Speaker 9 (27:28):
It's a bit of a tease. Yeah, I'm trying a
little ankle with you. I always show a little bit
more ankle than I should with you. But but by
the way, subscribe, like to subscribe. But but the thing
about how often this happens is a really fascinating question,
because I would argue that it doesn't happen to this
scale and with this level of documentation, which is only
enabled because of the collapse of this fraudulent company. The
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other stuff look historically, right, I was I was assuming
because I'm maybe dumb, like you would give a stock
tip or something, right like, have someone else, you know,
be multiple degrees away. You wouldn't do it through a
company that has its signage on your building. But that's
what our sources say is exactly the thing that happened.
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And so in that way kind of of its own.
As as Stein was.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
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We made it to a Friday football coming up tonight
last night. If I would have said these things are
going to happen, you would probably said, wait, guy gets
injured on the first play of the game. Then their
star defensive player ends up getting tossed for spitting on
the quarterback, and the Cowboys look great, Ceedee Lamb looks
great in the first half, bad in the second half.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
Cowboys have a chance to win this game.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Jalen Hurts was the best player on the field, and
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taking your phone calls. There was a lot to take
in last night I thought that the Cowboys would keep
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it close. I thought it was going to be a
three point game, ended up before point game. And Dallas
probably should have won that game because if you look
at the first half, back and forth and Dallas was
kind of holding its own no Jalen Carter, they took
advantage of that. Cede Lamb looked great. You know, it's
probably hard to say this, but it's true. So Ceedee
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Lamb had seven catches for one hundred and ten yards
and didn't have a good game because in the second
half he cost them dearly. And coming into this season,
he has had four career games with three or more drops.
That's more than any player since twenty twenty. Stat of
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of the Dan Patrick Show. This is one of those
games that if you put it in a time capsule
and people go, how good was Jalen Hurts now aside
from the Super Bowls, but if you said just a
regular season game, let me see something, let me see
why he's the top five quarterback. That would have been
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the game last night because Saquon Barkley was good, AJ
Brown non existent, DeVante Smith had a couple of catches
in there. But if I combine all their yards, even
think they have one hundred yards total. That was Jalen Hurts.
So you have your best defensive player who's out and
he seemed to take over the moment. He did the
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right thing at the right time. First in completion was
in the second quarter. He played great, and he took
advantage of the middle of the field when he was running,
when he was back to pass, and then decided to
get out of the pocket and ran for a couple
of touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
That was all Jalen Hurts last night.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
A best player on the field, and he's now I
know his odds to win the MVP. I don't even
think he's a top five MVP candidate because he's not
going to put up incredible numbers. This is a guy
who played quarterback last night. This wasn't a guy who
was passing. He was a quarterback last night. And this
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goes with game managing, which I know that there are
quarterbacks who think that you know, this is a disparaging remark,
and it's not. It's understanding what you need to do,
and he did it. If I said game master instead
of game manager, is that better, because that's what this is.
Speaker 5 (33:08):
To me.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
That was old school football of I don't care what
my numbers are.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
We're going to win. And he proved that. Whatever you needed.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Him to do last night, he did, and that's what
you want out of your quarterback. Now, I've said on record,
I didn't think he was a great quarterback. I just
think he's great for that team and we're going to
hold it against him that he's got maybe the best
front office in football. And you got Saquon there, you
got an incredible offensive line, you got two good receivers,
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a good tight end, and it's almost like, yeah, well,
Jalen Hurts kind of had a head start here. He's
got a lot of talent around him. So did Patrick Mahomes. Yeah,
the best coach in the NFL, A great GM Hall
of Fame tight end, Tyreek Kill. You had good offensive
line and like he had a.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
Hit are too.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
I just I think we grade Jalen Hurts on a
curve that somehow. Yeah, but yeah, but watched last night. Yeah,
but last night he did what you want your quarterback
to do, and it was wonderful to watch.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
Brilliant, surgical.
Speaker 8 (34:19):
Yes, Marvin, I think the main reason why it's going
to be so tough to him for him to win
league MVP is because he's gonna get dinged for his
team being so good, because somebody's gonna say, oh, if
I had that team, of course I'd throw thirty touchdowns
in rush for ten touchdowns two.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Yeah, I get it.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
I don't know if we hold him to the same standards,
or maybe we hold him to a higher standard than
we do other players. You know, Josh Allen. We don't
talk about anybody around Josh Allen. It's just Josh Allen
being Josh Allen. Lamar Jackson now has Derrick Henry and
he's won two MVPs. But you start, you know Joe Burrow,
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well he doesn't have a defense. Well he does have
maybe the best wide receiving corps in the NFL. But
we look at Jalen Hurts differently because this is a
stats driven league, stats driven award, and it's ought to
say that Joe Burrow and Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen
didn't have wonderful years. I'm just talking about value, And
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I think you could say this with all sincerity. You
get to the playoffs, give me how many quarterbacks. Would
you take over Jalen Hurts in the playoffs? Okay, because
that's where I see real value. Regular season? Okay, Lamar
is gonna be great, Josh Allen's gonna be great, Joe
Burrow's gonna be great.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
How many of those quarterbacks are you taking over? Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
You're gonna take Mahomes. I might take Josh Allen. Josh
Allen's been a good performer in the postseason. He hasn't
been able to get by Kansas City. We've seen Joe
Burrow make a run Lamar Jackson. I'm not taking Lamar
Jackson over him. Run down the list of other quarterbacks there.
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I'm probably going to have Mahomes and then Jalen Hurts.
Jayden Daniels hadn't shown me enough yet.
Speaker 10 (36:11):
C J.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Stroud hadn't shown me enough yet.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
I mean, this is a guy who out played Mahomes
in two Super Bowls.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
He won one, but he outplayed him.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
He could have two super Bowls, two MVPs if you
look at what he did in those Super Bowls. I
know it's high praise, hyperbole, probably overreaction, but I did
see it almost felt like the game was slowing down
for him, he just saw everything in a different way.
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And sometimes it you know, crystallizes with quarterbacks, you know,
your first year or second or third or fourth. But
if you look and Chris Collinsworth brought this up, the
guy plays for championships, whether it's you know, college or
the NFL. He's in championship moments there. And it didn't
seem too big last night. And his demeanor doesn't change.
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He is pretty cool and it was on display last night.
Now the headlines will be what happened to start the
game when Jalen Carter spit on Dak Prescott, and I,
you know, you got to have context with this. Now
it doesn't I'm not exonerating Jalen Carter in the moment.
I didn't have any context. Nobody did because I didn't
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know that Dak Prescott was spitting when he was in
the huddle. You know, they're waiting for the you know,
the official has to say, all right, you can break
the huddle, now we can get started. And Jalen Carter
is probably five feet away maybe from Dak Prescott, and
maybe his interpretation was, wait a minutes, he's spitt in
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an hour direction and then Jalen Carter comes over and
then all of a sudden, you see him spit on
Dak Prescott.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Yes. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (37:51):
The thing that does make that a little funny is
they're clearly drawn at each other, I think, because Jalen
Carter is all by him self waiting there, and Dak
walks four or five yards in order to spit between
those two his two teammates, you know, so it's not
like he was just standing there and spit.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Dak walks almost five full yards.
Speaker 6 (38:12):
That's further than you think in order to spit between
those guys, when he could have just spit right at
his own feet. Instead, he walked and approached him. That
some of the video does start to make it look
like there was a lot more going on there.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
Here is Dak talking about this spitting incident.
Speaker 11 (38:27):
I was right here by the two linemen, and I
guess I needed to spit and I wasn't gonna spin
on my liman, and I just spit a head. But
I'd say he was back there where Joelry was in
that sense, and he asked, or he goes, you're trying
to spin on me? And at that point, I mean,
I felt like like like he was insulting me, like,
I don't I wouldn't spin on somebody. I'm damn sure
not trying to spin on you. They were about to
play a game. I'm wondering why you're trying to mess
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with the rookiet. So when I stepped through, I actually
say the words like what the hell would excuse me?
But I'm probably even more colorful. What would I need
to spin.
Speaker 5 (38:54):
On you for?
Speaker 11 (38:55):
And he just spin on me in that moment and
was more of a surprise than anything. Ress obviously saw
it the flag. I was like, hell, yeah, we get
fifteen yards to start the game.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Off and the ref is right there, really easy call.
I mean, Dak kind of goes, uh, hello, he just
sped on me. Here's Jalen Carter talking about his side
of the story.
Speaker 12 (39:17):
You know it was a mi state I have on
my side. You know, he just won't happen a game.
I feel bad for just my teammates and the fans
are there. You know I'm doing it for them. You
know I'm done for my family also, but depends. You know,
they sold the most love you heard them my day
to day. You know, he's just not being able to
finish the start the game, even defendant the game, get up,
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you don't getting.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
Better, I won't having a gag.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
Okay, the NFL has placed a large emphasis this year
and that this was a topic in the offseason with
teams and players respect for the opponent.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
That's a big factor.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
Ross Tucker, who was doing the game with on west
Wood One, talked about that as well. It's a really,
really big point of emphasis. So the next question will
be will Jalen Carter be suspended? And I think I
think given the context of this, now once again, he
got suspended for the entire game, and I think the
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league may factor that in now do they find him
I would be surprised if they suspend him for another game.
If he did this in the second half of the
game last night, then maybe he would be suspended for
the following game. But he got suspended now. In my opinion,
it might be a fine, but I would be surprised
if they're going to suspend him again. Doesn't exonerate him
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for what he did. I understand what he's doing in
the moment, and it wants you got to give these
things context because obviously you see it at the moment,
and I'm going why would he spit on him to
start this season? And once again, these guys are hyped up.
They've been in the locker room, They're ready to go.
So it's opening night, banner Night playing the Cowboys, ready
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to go? Wait are you spitting at me? And then
he approaches Dak and then all of a sudden he
gets tossed. What a wild start to the game. Wild start, yeah.
Speaker 7 (41:15):
Pa, I'd barely even settle down. I don't really even
have the sound up, and I see a flag going
the air. I'm like, did they run a play?
Speaker 5 (41:22):
And it was like that.
Speaker 7 (41:23):
Scene in Slapshot, the hockey movie where the guy punches
the other guy during the national anthemic? How's the flag
going on?
Speaker 3 (41:29):
Before the game started?
Speaker 2 (41:32):
Philadelphia is lucky to get a win, really lucky. Now,
I always look at these losses at the beginning of
the year. We tend to look at losses at the
end of the year. Remember what I said that Monday
morning when the Bengals lost to the Patriots. I said,
that's the kind of loss that comes back and keeps
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you out of the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
And that's exactly what happened.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
You're gonna have sloppy football this week and probably next
week because most of these players haven't played and if
they have, it's just a little bit. And last night
was kind of sloppy, or as Paul he would say, choppy.
But I thought Dallas did enough to win that game.
I just didn't understand why there wasn't And I'm sure
Dallas had a spy on Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 3 (42:18):
He didn't do it. I mean he wasn't James Bond.
I mean he.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
Didn't do a very good job. He was really good
at hiding the fact that he was the spy on
Jalen Hurts because Jalen Hurts felt like he had he
had room to run and this wasn't a toush push.
He was able to score legitimate touchdowns. But Saquon he
played okay. AJ Brown had a couple of targets, DeVante Smith,
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Dallas Goddard had some catches there. But this was one
of those games where if I'm Dallas and Brian Schottenheimer,
that's his first NFL game as a head coach, and.
Speaker 3 (42:58):
I thought he did a pretty good job.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
I thought they made enough plays to win that game,
and that's one of those if they had stolen that game,
man what would we be talking about.
Speaker 3 (43:10):
Yeah, I'm seeing.
Speaker 6 (43:11):
Last night watching the Eagles, it was kind of like
a perfect example to me of why you need name
brand players at skill position at the skill positions because
you can't. Saquon Barkley is a name brand, right, and
he's a guy.
Speaker 3 (43:26):
I thought he looked great. Right.
Speaker 6 (43:28):
You have two superstar caliber wide receivers you can't. And
then plus you have Jalen Hurts who was killing him
last night. How are you going to cover everybody? You
kind of can't. That's to me, it was like the
ultimate view again into like this is why you pay people,
this is why you have stars at those positions.