November 13, 2025 • 41 mins
Utah Jazz star Kevin Love joins Dan to squash some beef, talk about Game 7 in the 2016 NBA Finals and his struggles with mental health. PFT Live co-host Chris Simms previews Philadelphia’s showdown with the Detroit Lions and discusses second year performances from young quarterbacks Jayden Daniels and Caleb Williams.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
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Speaker 3 (00:39):
But it'll be the.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Lions and Eagles in Philadelphia. Jared Goff, Jalen Hurtz, and
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watch the show and listen to the show. We're on
over four hundred radio stations in America. Kevin Love is
back on the program, the Utah Jazz Forward and of
course won a championship with the Cavs. Five time All
Star joins us on behalf of Shift Naturals Natural Sciences Company.
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I'll let him talk about that coming up. You know,
yesterday was the anniversary of your thirty point thirty rebound
actually thirty one points thirty one rebounds game. What do
you remember most about that?
Speaker 4 (01:36):
I had just come off a game against the Lakers
against pau Gasol and Andrew Bidom where I didn't score.
Speaker 5 (01:44):
You know, I laid an.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Egg, so I needed to make my presence known, and
you know, it just so happened. That kind of started
the you know, streak of double doubles where you know,
I had fifty plus in a row, and I think
that led me into my first All Star Game as well,
So that that season was certainly a breakout year for me,
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and I ended up being I believe, most improved at
the end of that season.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
And here we are, season eighteen, so I'm still here.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
I got gray hair, matching the shirt, trying to look
as good as you do when you you know, I
don't know your secret, damn, but withstood the test of
time as well. But a lot of fund memories from
my first six years in Minnesota. In that game in particular,
is one of the highlights.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
What player do you think gave you the most of
your gray hairs?
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Defensively going against Dirkowitzki, there was just nothing you could
do to stop that. And then I would say on
the offensive end, it was probably because I was the
fifth pick. I was the new guy in Minnesota. You know,
I came into the league. Boston was a superpower in
the East. It was Kevin Garnett. So those two guys
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gave me a lot of gray hairs. But I also
believe in that time frame when I came in two
thousand and eight, two thousand and nine, for several years,
I mean, it was Zach Randolph, it was Pougasol, it
was Tim Duncan, it was Blake Griffin, it was LaMarcus Aldridge.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
It was Dirk.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
And that's just the Western Conference and I'm leaving a
number of guys out, but at that position, it was Yeah.
It certainly aged me.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Go back to the NBA Finals when you were with
the Cavs Game seven, final minute and you get switched
off with Steph Curry.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Sure, I tell everybody all the time that you know,
we had gone over that play. I can't tell you
how many times, and we were switching one through five.
I knew that they were going to call my number up.
They didn't want Tristan Thompson to switch off. They didn't
want you know, Lebron, you know, really anybody else, Kyrie
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j R.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
Smith.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
They wanted to call me up. And you know I
was able to switch off on his Steff. I kept
my feet down and I knew he was going to
try and get to his bag. I knew he was
going to try and get to, you know, a three
point shot. That year he was unanimous MVP. They were
seventy three and nineteen.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
And your arms are flailing like you're you're karate.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
Listen like if you you know, it's like old school when.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Wilf Ferrell goes up there and does the debate and
he like fully blacks out. That is exactly what actually
I tell everybody all the time that Steph gave up
that ball. He gave it back to Draymond, and what
I was supposed to actually do was deny the ball
back to Steph. So in terms of EQ and knowing
the game and the situation and all that was at stake,
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I always told everybody was actually like a you know,
I kept my feet down, arms were flailing. Like I said,
I blacked out. You know, I contested a the heavily
contested shot. So I did my job. But they don't
realize that it was actually a in some ways a
bad defensive play in terms of our concepts and what
we were trying to get done. I was supposed to
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deny that ball back. Steph Curry was never supposed to get.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
That ball back.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
So you know, there's a number of plays in that
game that that that stick out to me. Obviously the
block by Lebron, the shot by Kyrie that put us ahead,
and it was just yeah, I just that was that
was all I could do to to do my part.
Had a tough series, but the end of the day,
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people remember that last game, and.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
You know that stop was a huge moment in my career.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
All right, let's clear up something that happened last year.
There was a headline that was written Kevin Love graciously
reacts to Dan Patrick's disappointing Cooper Fly comparison.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Okay, were you so sensitive?
Speaker 6 (05:59):
Man?
Speaker 4 (05:59):
I didn't take any any any type of I didn't
feel any sort of way about that. As you know,
i've been a friend of the show. I've been i
mean a friend of yours. I'd like to call your
friend for a long time.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Did you know what I was trying to say?
Speaker 5 (06:13):
Of course?
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Of course, that's where, like you know, things get taken
out of context, and you know, people, and I mean
in general, people like the common fan that that add
so much to our game and sports in general, they
want to take that and make it something that it's not.
So I didn't take any offense to that. I know
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that I've had a damn good career. I feel like
I've left some stuff on the table. But of course,
one hundred percent, I understand what you were saying. But
I've I've seen Cooper play in college when I'm when
they played Miami. I've met with his parents a number
of times. I've seen him up close. I've watched him
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since he's been fifteen years old. And you know, I
know the Maps are having a tough go, but there's.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
So much pressure on him in the post, I'm blaming us,
the media. We won't be satisfied if he made five
NBA All Star teams and wonted title played on the
Olympic team. I mean, you're going to be a Hall
of Famer. I'm blaming the media because we won't be satisfied, right,
And I think people took it differently.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
Yeah, I think that's true, and that's unfortunately in some
cases is the world that we live in.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
But it would be better if you were actually mad
at me. This would be good content, Kevin.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Yeah, exactly right, And I think that's what people want, right.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
But I'm just listen.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
I'm very comfortable in my career, very comfortable where I'm
at now, and you know, I hate looking back in
the rear view, and I think that in some cases
that creates complacency. But no, I knew exactly what you
were saying, and I think I even said like, and
I believe that and fill that with every ounce of
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my being. Like, I've always been a fan of the
show and will continue to be. There's no hard feelings
because I know the context in which you said it
in and what people wanted to get out of it.
On the other side, But again, like, if you want
me to be pissed off, you know, we could make
some good headlines here.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
What's your favorite memory of Kobe when you played on
the Olympic team with him?
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Oh man, okay, So best best memory with Kobe was
we had finished a gold medal game. We had beat Spain,
you know, like a saw Brothers, Ricky Ruby, all those
those great teams that they had had two thousand and eight.
You know, it was kind of a running it back
in twenty twelve. And so when you know, we're thinking
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we're going back to the locker room, we're thinking we're
doing the champagne shower, and you know, that was I
hadn't had that moment before, you know, twenty sixteen was
really that first moment where I had felt that type
of you know, the joy of winning and winning big
at that type of level. So we're walking off and
you know, we do the media after the game. As
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we walk off and are headed to the locker room,
and they say, mister Brian, mister Love, come with us.
We're thinking we're doing media and we get drug tested.
We get drug tested and we have to So we
have a couple people on the staff, I forget exactly
who it was bring us champagne and we just had
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to sit there and I think we probably got about,
you know, thirty ish, maybe half an hour of just
Kobe and myself talking all things just about life and
kids in career. That was a very special moment for me,
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especially all all things considered now with obviously the terrible
tragedy that happened with him. But I look back with
that as a very fond memory in my basketball life
journey because he was a giant in my eyes and
a lot.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
Of people's eyes. And you know, I grew up a fan.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
I loved this game of the way that he chased
it as number eight, as number twenty four, and you know,
he certainly holds a special place in my heart in
terms of, you know, my overall basketball career and journey
these last thirty years.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
What was it like to get yelled at by Lebron?
Speaker 5 (10:27):
I still get yelled at by Lebron.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
I'll see him for other reasons, of course. But you know,
when I first got to Cleveland's, I had bad habits.
Like I look back, I had bad habits. I didn't
know what it meant to sacrifice. I didn't truly have
my first few years. But in my six years in Minnesota,
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like a vet to show me the way and to
deal with adversity and to understand, you know, what it
meant to be a good pro and also a good teammate.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
So I think.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Some of those moments and you know, him yelling at
me and wanting me to be better was you know,
I would hope because he saw something more in me,
and also that you know, I was rough around the edges.
I needed to grow up in a lot of ways.
But I think that took looking in the mirror and
understanding that things weren't adding up as I would have liked.
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And I think the adjustment curve in period was tough
for me that that first year. You know, I went
from being a guy that was a twenty plus point score,
ten plus rebounds, and you know, I'm all NBA guy,
and you know I had a step and sacrifice and
you play on the perimeter and let a basketball, you know,
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magician and Kyrie getting downhill. You know, I've never seen
it below the rim finisher quite like him, so special
and then a freight train in Lebron do their thing,
and you know it was about spacing for us and
we were we ended up being a machine. We were
a team that was thrived under chaos. Sure, I think
that's part of what we're talking about. But you know,
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certainly those are some of my my my favorite memories
because I do feel like personally a professionally I have
Uh it'll come a come a long way, but it
definitely added to a little bit this this, these grays
here in that silver Fox.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
What are you doing with Shift Naturals?
Speaker 4 (12:32):
So I invested in the company Shift Naturals out of
ben Orgon. I grew up, you know, just just down
the street in Portland, Oregon, and it's a you know,
I'm talking about longevity here, right and really unwinding from
the grind. And for me, you know, this was an easy,
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It's great tasting, and you know, it's something that I
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implemented into my everyday life.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
How did you I was going to say courage.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
I don't know if you'd use that, but you came
forward with mental health, Jared. It's something that especially guys
don't talk about. But can you help me understand maybe
the week leading up to that, where you actually said,
I need to talk to this about this, Uh, bring
this to people's attention.
Speaker 7 (13:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
Well, it was All Star of twenty eighteen, and if
you can remember that time in February, you know, there
was a lot leading up to that in my personal
and professional life. I'd been named an All Star that year,
but even prior in the summertime, there was you know,
things going on within you know, my family and my
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extended family, people within arms distance, whether I was going
through it or they were going through it, or you know,
we were estranged or not speaking or on bad terms.
And then you know, we we trade Kyrie Irving and
we still have the expectations of you know, if not
making the NBA Finals, then you know, going and winning
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the NBA Finals.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
And so our team a lot of new faces, a.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
Lot of new parts, and we did not have a
good start to the season.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
And I think that that was stuff.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
I had broken my hand, you know, I had the
panic attack in November of that year against the Atlanta Hawks,
and everything kind of led up to All Start, you know,
that year. So I had the game taken away from me,
and I was just you know, so much of the
time I was able to just lean into basketball as
a as a safe space, so that being taken away,
the team didn't know what was going on. My teammates
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didn't know what was going on. I was afraid that
I was going to be you know, found out. I
didn't want anybody to know because how it was going
to affect my livelihood and you know those things said.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
You know, there was rumblings around All Star as well.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
I started giving questions about, you know, where my head
was and you know, how I was really feeling, and
I think people started to catch wind of it. And
I mentioned Parking, Florida because I'm like, Okay, what is
really going on in our country and that community and
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you know, those kids, those parents who's all affected by that.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
And I thought that there was some some good to
be done.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
By you know, sharing my story because I know that
all of you know, those people and so many others
now that I've found out in March of that year,
when I pressed in on that first person article just
you know, my idea was to just help that next person,
help that one person and and you know, maybe you
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can change the trajectory of their life and thinking of
their families, their friends, their siblings, mom, dad, you know, teachers, community, peers.
You just don't know the ripple effect that that could
have just changing one life. So that, you know, led
me to start the Kevin Lovelund as well. So it's
been a great, you know, a great thing and something
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legacy wise that I know that I'll have after basketball.
But I think that's what led me to share and
as well as DeMar de Rosen sharing his story you
know as well, or just a passive tweet that struck
me as as something that it felt like it was
very courageous, and I got to speak with him at
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All Star of that year, and I think he could
really said it in his book that you know, he
could sense something was going on. So that that that kinship,
that brotherhood as as has really.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
Evolved as well.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
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Speaker 3 (17:02):
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Speaker 2 (17:04):
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Speaker 3 (17:08):
Great to catch up with you. Stay in touch.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
Yeah sounds good.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Thank you, Belly, appreciate it. Kevin Love I've always enjoyed him.
I think he's a very interesting person and probably will
make a great coach or analyst when it's all said
and done. Speaking of analysts, Chris Sims will join us.
Coming up next, we'll try to make sense of what's
going on with the Eagles. Also which team as the
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most must win game of the weekend in the NFL.
We'll have Chris talk about that next here on The
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you ready for the Lions at the Eagles kick off
A twenty Eastern Football Night America starts at seven Eastern. Chris,
let me start with the Eagles with Aj Brown. He
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can be telling us the truth. He can be correct
in his assessment of the offense. It's just the style
in which he's telling us these things I have a
problem with. Tell me what is different about the Eagles
this year as opposed to last year, and in particular
AJ Brown?
Speaker 8 (19:00):
Well, I think you know, last year they got the
running game going to such an extent that it basically
made everything really easy. Right, everything now it didn't even matter.
I mean again, let's not forget there was a seven
or eight week stretch towards the end of the season
where last year in Philadelpia were like, man, can they
throw the ball? Can they really do anything like that?
This is not like it's just coming up out of nowhere.
Speaker 7 (19:20):
Again.
Speaker 8 (19:21):
It was also like that the year before too, when
they you know, kind of had the meltdown late in
this football season. So this has been a continual, you
know issue with them. They're not extremely creative, right. The
quarterback is not surgical playing within the pocket.
Speaker 9 (19:36):
You know.
Speaker 8 (19:37):
I don't think the quarterback wants them to do a
whole lot on offense either.
Speaker 7 (19:41):
So they're very simple that way.
Speaker 8 (19:42):
And I say that because I know that I've been
told by that by people that have played their coach There, been, there, there,
now whatever.
Speaker 7 (19:48):
So those are the issues. So yeah, they lack.
Speaker 8 (19:52):
A creative schematical attack on a week to week basis
where they basically rely on and when you see Jalen
h Her in the passing game have a good game, what happens.
It's always the same thing, Dan. The team has to
play run defense to such an extent, then now we
can just throw a go ball to AJ Brown or
we throw a slant to Devonte Smith and then they
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run and do that. But there's never like, ooh, watch
this systematical destruction they're doing right here. And without the
run game, all those things kind of get put at
the forefront. And we all go, what's going on with
the most talented offense in football?
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Why isn't anybody else complaining?
Speaker 8 (20:30):
That's a fair question. I get that you've heard the
offensive lineman going, we're predictable. We have people saying the
plays when we're lining up there, right, But at the
same time, too, right, they're wasting one of their biggest
assets in their football team. We've got a guy that's
making thirty two million dollars. It is one of the
best offensive players in the game, and they can't find
a way to let him touch the football. That's kind
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of crazy in the twenty twenty five NFL. You know
so again, I don't sit here and condone all the
things he said and done this thing what he just
did on playing online, playing in a game with somebody.
I don't think he said anything crazy there. I didn't
have that much of a problem with it. He just Hey,
we're not good, don't take me on fantasy. We should
be better. Yeah, it's obvious stuff, right, But yes, I
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understand your point in airing out their dirty laundry sometimes.
Speaker 7 (21:18):
Sure, I got you.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
What should we be watching for with Drake May tonight?
Speaker 8 (21:22):
Oh man man, Drake May is. First off, what I
love is the aggressive nature of the offense. Right you're
watching them every week. It's not dink and dunk and
like they're managing Drake May. Is that like they haven't
gone the full Tom Brady offense yet because it's a
hard offense and he's learning it. And I think Vrabel
wants to play a certain way, so it's not just like, hey,
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the ball's in your hands, so you know, tear them
up that way. They play a balanced game of football.
They can really run the football, but when they drop
back to pass, they're looking for heavy hitters. And that's
what I love about Drake May. He is just as
poised as can be in the pocket. He's fearless with
people around him, and he is an unreal intermediate deep
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ball thrower right now and then when it's not there,
as you know, he's getting to the point like Tampa
Bay last week, Dan they spied him. His running is
getting good enough to wear a third downs. The defensive
coordinator's like, we got to account for him. We got
to have a plan here, so he'll post some problems.
The Jets defense, though, is no slouch. They're one of
the better pass defenses in all football. I don't think
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it's just gonna be bombs away play after play. The
problem is, we know the Jets offense stinks, and you
know eventually the dam will break with the Jets all together.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
But with Josh McDaniels, there are they running? Are they
running Tom Brady's offense? Maybe just it's a little watered down.
Speaker 8 (22:40):
Exactly they are they are? And you know, I think
the world Josh McDaniels. You know, you can say what
you want about him as a head coach, there's no
denying he's one of the best offensive coordinators in football
for about twenty years straight here, And yeah, I think
it's like it's early years Brady offense right now. That's
what I would say, Dan, Like when they were winning
those first three Super Bowls, they weren't in the shotgun
just Wes Welker Edelman, We're gonna just totally destroy you
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that way, right It was a little bit more we're
gonna run the ball, and then we're gonna fake the
run and Tom's gonna sit there and throw a twenty
yard laser down the field for play action passes somebody.
That's kind of the way they're playing, right now, it's
like early two thousands, Patriots, your MVP as of today
is Matthew Stafford. I'm gonna go with Matthew Stafford. Yeah,
I mean again, Drake May in that combo for sure, right,
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I mean we'll see where Baker Mayfield. I'm still not
gonna take him out of there, but I think the
top three right now would be Stafford, Drake May and
Jonathan Taylor. For my money, those would be the three
guys i'd look at. Stafford is you know, phenomenal. It's
just phenomenal. And again a lot like Drake May. It's
not like it's a dink and dunk golfense. He drops
back and he's like, where's Pooka? Is he thirty yards
down the field? Oh no, he's not open. Lo Oh,
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there's Davante. He's forty yards down the field. Show right.
I mean that's where he is. Phenomenal that way, and
for being the gun slinger he is and the arm
talent he still has and still to what he's only
thrown two interceptions. Yeah, I'll give him the title right now.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
As we said, and I thought this would be his
last year. I love them as a team and a
super Bowl contender. It just came down to Matt's health
and he's I don't know how many times he's been sacked,
but probably not very many. You've got a great coach,
you've got a couple of great receivers, and you've got
a running back, you got some playmakers on defense, and
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then you got this show down with Seattle. How is
Seattle making this work kind of in the shadows here,
Yeah it is.
Speaker 8 (24:28):
And I know you don't listen to me like on
a daily basis, and don't expect you to, but Seattle's
one of those teams. For about three weeks, I've gone
on my shows, different shows and gone, They're the team
everybody's sleeping on. Seattle can go to the super Bowl.
They're that good. They literally are that talented. And I
think that their offense and what they do fits Sam
Donald a lot better than what he was in the Minnesota.
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So the first thing is they can legitimately run the
ball this year, where like if you don't play run defense,
they will run the ball with success. And then if
we know if you overplay the run. They're one of
the most aggressive passing teams in football too, yards per attempt,
yards per completion you look it up. Sam Darnold's at
the top of the list in that department, and then
you add Rashid Shaheed to it. So they have a
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great combination of like, hey, we can run the ball
when you cheat and stop the run. We got some
guys on the outside, even Cooper Cup that can beat
you down the field watch out. And then that Shanahan
play action scheme is so effective off of that. With
Clint Kubiak the other side, I have a man crush
on their defense. Dan, they're front five, they're front four.
I mean, it's one big baller after another. So they
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can win the physical battles and their secondary is awesome
on top of that. Not totally healthy yet, but it's
between that and the scheme. Yeah, as I've said a
lot of times this week, like don't be shocked if
we're sitting here Championship Sunday and the Seattle Seahawks are there.
I put them in the same class as the Lions,
the Eagles, and the Rams or the Bucks in the NFC.
Speaker 7 (25:54):
The NFC's got some heavy hitters this year, that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Vikings having more of a seller's remorse with Daniel Jones
or Sam Darneld.
Speaker 7 (26:05):
That's a good question there.
Speaker 8 (26:07):
You know, I think that they made up their mind
they didn't want the Sam Donald thing at the end
of the year, you know, after the Detroit game and
then going into the RAM game, which the Ram game
wasn't Sam Donald's fault. The wild card game, I mean,
they got their butts whooped. In totality, everybody got whooped.
Nobody had a chance on that football game, whoever played quarterback.
But you know, the Daniel Jones things. I had heard
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from some people up there and some credible people that
they really like Daniel Jones. And again, as you've heard
me say to you before, the league views Daniel Jones
differently than the fans do. And so yeah, I would
think there's some buyers remorse. But at the same time,
like they they were invested in JJ McCarthy, they trade
it up to get him. They had to do this.
He's a top ten pick or eleven pick whatever. He
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is right in that range where you know, they got
to see what they got here. So can he stay
healthy here? He is can't practice yesterday?
Speaker 7 (26:59):
Right.
Speaker 8 (27:00):
There is some talent there, but it's not going to
be like he's going to be able to run the
offense like Sam Darnold did last year or Kirk Cousins
before that.
Speaker 7 (27:07):
He's basically a rookie. So there's gonna be a few
bumps in the road as we go forward.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Here feels like people are bailing on Jayden Daniels because
he got hurt. He did turn in maybe the greatest
rookie season of quarterbacks ever had.
Speaker 8 (27:23):
I'm so sick of the fickle nature of fans right now.
Like trust me, I mean, I have people now be
like Drake may he's better than Jadon Daniels now right.
Speaker 7 (27:32):
I mean bo Nick is better than Jayan Daniels now right.
And it's like, no, No, jane Daniels is phenomenal.
Speaker 8 (27:38):
This is the only issue you really had about Janean
Daniels that I think I worried about and other teams
worried about, is he's frail. I mean, he can be
painfully skinny looking at in the field of times. So
this is what we all wondered. Could he take the
punishment of the NFL when he ran a little bit
and did that. But still, I mean he's phenomenal and
the class is phenomenal. I mean, come on, Caleb Williams
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is going like this too, and he's totally getting reconstructed
as a quarterback robot here right in front of us.
So it's an incredible class right now that I feel
like you really only question right now to this point
is is JJ McCarthy and Michael Pennix and where are
they gonna go?
Speaker 7 (28:15):
The talent's there, but it's just been all over the
place so far.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
It feels like it was two months ago, six weeks
ago people were bailing on Caleb Williams Ben Johnson relationship
that it wasn't going to work.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
And I'm thinking, do we give up that quickly?
Speaker 7 (28:31):
With?
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Yeah, that talent? And then you bring in Ben Johnson
who's trying to get him to play the position how
he envisions it instead of Caleb Bin visions it exactly.
Speaker 7 (28:41):
That's a lot. That's a lot, Dan, You're spot on.
Speaker 8 (28:44):
I mean, this is the guy that his whole life
in Caleb Williams has been able to drop back and go, uh,
I can just make it happen. I'll just make this
throw or I'll scramble and move and buy some times
and make it happen. And he's got now Ben Johnson
coming into town. And going no, no, no, that's cool. You
might be able to do that, and you know the
Pac ten against some crappy defenses are in the Big
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twelve and all that, and you might get away with
it against a few offenses defenses in the NFL. But
as a whole, if you want to win a Super Bowl,
you gotta run an offense. You gotta run an offense.
You can't think you're just gonna make a play in
a big moment. You got to trust the system and
be systematic that way. And he hasn't been that totally yet,
but he's getting there, that's for sure. And his talent
is eye popping. I mean, to me, it's eye popping.
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I mean what you see is running. His running is
like a third down running back. He breaks tackles and
breaks ankles and does all that. His arm is arguably
the strongest in football. It's right up there with Josh Allen. Right,
But you know, throwing balls on time, in rhythm in
the pocket and all that, that's still a learning process.
And you explained it right, And Ben Johnson, of course
has a million rules and laws to his offense. That's
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a big learning curve.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Well, I want him to be Jared Goff through the
first three quarters, then he can be Caleb Williams in
the fourth quarter.
Speaker 8 (29:55):
That's that's a great way to put it. That's what
he should be. You're exactly right. And I think if
you looked at me and you sat down and watch
film right now of Caleb Williams, you'd go, ah, yeah,
there's a little too much, you know, trying to color
outside the lines in the first three quarters where you
just go, wait, that little slant route or that under
route was open, Let's hit it. Let's be in second
and four, let's just keep going that way. And yeah,
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he hasn't totally gotten there yet.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
To your point, Dan, the Giants situation with Jackson Dart, Like,
I don't know how much this played into the firing
of Brian Dable, but if you're gonna have designed runs
mm hmm with your quarterback who runs like a running back,
like I have to protect Jackson Dart from himself.
Speaker 7 (30:37):
That crossed my mind. I don't think you're crazy for that.
You know.
Speaker 8 (30:40):
There's a little bit of like a thing with the
Giants where I was like, are they just gonna go
all out and ruin the football team just to save
their jobs, right, And that's where I was like, ownership's
got to look at the bigger picture here, right, It's like,
we gotta win this one or I might be get fired.
I'm gonna ruin the rookie quarterbacks career today and run
them up the middle seventy five times, but I want
to win the keep my But he was.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Knocking on the you know, the blue tent and yes,
getting Jackson Dart out there.
Speaker 7 (31:05):
I went, wow, right, that's right.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
This this was a troubling situation because it really felt
like Brian dabele knew I can't put Russell Wilson in there.
Speaker 7 (31:15):
I'm totally with you.
Speaker 8 (31:16):
And then even last week he gets concussed and then
he comes in, plays two plays and then somebody with
some brains went, wait, that guy's brain's not working functionally here, let's.
Speaker 7 (31:25):
Get him out of the football game. But yeah, I
would was that was that.
Speaker 8 (31:29):
You know a part of my thought at first was
like many they just they don't trust him, and they
don't feel like he's protecting Jackson Dart. You know, certainly
that crossed my mind, but I think ultimately, you know,
they just they wanted to turn the page on Brian Dayball,
and I don't know if I totally agree with it.
I'll just say from this like, I'm all for the new,
you know, getting a new head coach. I think there's
(31:51):
a part of me though, that goes, wait, you know
Jackson Dart and what he's doing, it is going this way?
Do we want to disrupt that right now? Maybe just
keep that going and then we can fire Dayball after
the year. I think we all knew it was going
that way anyways. It didn't matter, right, So I just
wonder if this disrupts the whole process of Jackson Dart
to a degree.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Is Jameis Winston goofy on purpose? I think no, he's
like that naturally. And I say that in a in
a good way, right. Jameis Winston I think was afraid
for a long time to show his true personality because
of some of the things that happened in college in
his early career where I think he was like, wait,
I'm the number one pick. There's a bad reputation out
(32:30):
of here, so let me be a little bit, you know,
a little bit, you know, as far as just a
straight arrow. But I think he's gotten to a point
in his life where he's finally like, hey, the hell
with it, I'm just going to be myself.
Speaker 7 (32:41):
And I really love being around him.
Speaker 8 (32:44):
He is he is hilarious, he's funny, it's natural.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
Do you want as your quarterback?
Speaker 8 (32:50):
Not as a starting quarterback? No, but I want him
over Russell Wilson. I think that is no doubt. I'll
take that. I you know again, I don't think Russell
Wilson plays to win games anymore. I think he just
he's not to lose. Jamis is going to play to
win this week. And yeah, he might throw some interceptions,
but he might throw some of the damnest touchdown passes
we've ever seen too, And I'd rather watch that than
russeill either throw a go route or take a sack.
Speaker 7 (33:11):
I don't want to see that.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
I can't imagine somebody giving Russ another chance.
Speaker 7 (33:16):
No, No, does Russ really want another chance?
Speaker 8 (33:20):
I mean, I think Russ came to New York because
he wants to live the New York life, and they're
more worried about being.
Speaker 7 (33:24):
Famous and all that.
Speaker 8 (33:26):
And yes, I mean the days of being a starting
quarterback are certainly over. It's just, yeah, does he want
to take the Joe Flacco route and be a backup
somewhere and maybe revive his career that way.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
Good to talk to you. Thanks has always have a
great weekend.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
And you know you can always text me if you
want to tell me, hey, Seattle is legitimate, you know,
just send a text. Hey, Okay, sure, try to find
your podcast or watching you in Florio.
Speaker 8 (33:50):
I mean, well, I do want you to watch christimsu Button.
But you can text me too and ask those questions.
It's not against the rules. I check the rule book.
You're allowed to do that, all right, Tell those jerks,
I said, Hi.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Hey Jerks, Pro Football Talk Live co host and his
Unbuttoned podcast as well. He'll be there on Football Night
in America. We'll take a break. Your phone calls, what
we learn, what's in store tomorrow after this.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
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Speaker 2 (34:24):
Rob Gronkowski's going to join us on the program tomorrow.
Couple of phone calls in here, Aaron in Fresno. I
think Gronk signing that one day contract with the Patriots.
Hi Erin, thank you for holding DP.
Speaker 9 (34:39):
Dannett, thanks for diacking my call. I got a poll
question and a birthday shout out, but real quick, Dylan,
I love the hoodie. Can you do me a favor
and get like Dan a little Workingman's Dead American beauty playlist?
With that being said, poll question, are you in or
out on the new NBA All Star format? And lastly,
happy birthday shout out to my mom, Sherry Lynd. You
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guys are the best. Have a great day.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Thank you, Erin, I am in on the All Star format?
Andrew and Desmonet, Hi, Andrew, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 10 (35:13):
Good morning Dan, six foot and a hard one ninety.
Speaker 7 (35:17):
Five hard.
Speaker 6 (35:21):
Dan.
Speaker 10 (35:21):
I got Hawks on the brain. The Hawks are six
and a half foot dogs at USC this weekend, and
so I've got a bet for Fritzi.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
Oh okay, wait, the Hawks.
Speaker 10 (35:37):
Can win at USC this weekend. I would like Fritzy
to sing the Iowa victory poka on air.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Okay, what does Fritzie get if Iowa doesn't win?
Speaker 10 (35:49):
I will take a big old USC pie to the face.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
All right, Todd, you're up for singing?
Speaker 6 (35:55):
I always like to sing.
Speaker 11 (35:56):
I'd have to listen to it ahead at timpt to
Notes to Beyond, try to be on Keith.
Speaker 7 (36:00):
I don't think they all change anything.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
Yeah, but yeah, well let's do it all right.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
You got to bet there. Andrew Nate in La, Hi, Nate,
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 3 (36:09):
Hey, good morning, Dan.
Speaker 12 (36:10):
It's a beautiful day in La. Despite being in the
firt tea lane on the highway. QULT shout out to
my loyal Marymount University of Lion meant basketball the start
of the season's bourn Nope, could be our year. A
question for you guys is do you think with Michael
Jordan's back on NBC NBA, do you think they'll showcase
or would want to see him showcase in any capacity
(36:33):
maybe like a Legends game or I don't know, free
throw contest.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
No, no, no, no no.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
I think it's it's enough work that he has to
sit down in a chair at his house in Mike
Erico ask him questions. That's that's about as stressful as
Mike wants it right now. But I mean, it'd be
great if he went to the All Star festivities, but
you know, he can't go anywhere.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
It's not going to be fun for him.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
And maybe I still want Reggie Miller to sit down
with Mike and have a conversation that to me would
be really interesting.
Speaker 5 (37:10):
Now.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
I don't know if Jordan would do it. Reggie said
that last week, then he would love to do it.
Those are the kind of things that I want out
of Michael. I mean, talking about load management, I couldn't
care less about that. I mean, yeah, back in the day,
you didn't have load management. I don't know if you
would have it nowadays. I mean, if Larry Bird played nowadays,
(37:32):
there would be load management, I'm guessing, or Steve Nash
because you're trying to extend their careers. But just calling
out these guys and you know, talking about load management
nothing changes.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
They're probably going shut up, you know, Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 11 (37:48):
I want Mike to talk about specific players like I want.
I want to hear his thoughts on Wenby Shay Gilgess.
He plays the two guard positions just like Mike did,
and guys like that, So I would like that.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Yeah, I would too. Gus and Vegas, Hi Gus, what's
on your mind today?
Speaker 6 (38:03):
Hi Dan?
Speaker 12 (38:04):
Heygus five.
Speaker 6 (38:11):
We've all been following Seaton's road trip out here to
Las Vegas and I understand you're going to be broadcasting
from the fabulous Fountain Blue Hotel late next week here
in Vegas, and I was curious, Dan, if fans are
going to be able to come down and watch the
show live when you're broadcasting here.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
I believe so, but I got to get the final
details that we'll probably have Monday or Tuesday. But I'll
let you know, Gus. Last time we were there, we
had a great response. The audience came out.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
And it was cold.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
Those mornings were cold in Las Vegas, and they were
really early too. You know, that's the hard part is
you're in Vegas where everybody stays out late, and we're
getting up when everybody's coming in. You know, the afternoons
are warm.
Speaker 11 (39:02):
Yes, Marvin, I did love walking through the casino and
seeing a couple of NFL players still at the craps
table where we left them the night before at this
four o'clock in the morning, Like.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Hey, aren't you a wide receivers?
Speaker 13 (39:15):
How about this day in sports history? Paul nineteen ninety one.
Roger Clemens won his third sty Young Award for the
American League. Nineteen ninety three, oh On Brand, the Dallas
Mavericks began a twenty game losing streak, and nineteen ninety
five Greg Maddox of the Braves was the first pitcher
to win four consecutive sty Young Awards.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
Yeah, that's amazing, amazing.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
I saw where he was up on stage. I don't
know if it was a forum where they were asking questions,
and somebody asked, how did he pitch to Barry Bonds?
He said it was really easy. I just walked him.
I did no stress level. I just didn't pitch. He said,
he's the greatest hitter. He said that, you know, it
(40:00):
didn't matter what you did. I'm always amazed, though, when
you are so disciplined at the plate, and he's as
disciplined as anybody who ever played the game. And he knew,
if I got one pitch, if chances are in for
a bats, I'm getting one pitch.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
I gotta take advantage of that. And he was able to.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
Let's go around the room. What we learned on the program?
Tod'd you learn anything today?
Speaker 7 (40:26):
I did?
Speaker 3 (40:26):
Kay Love says, trying to defend Dirk gave him the
most gray hairs. Yeah, he said he was unstoppable. Dylan,
would you learn today Seten O'Connor not a red Hot
Chili Peppers fan apparently not or Foo Fighters. Marvin Seeing
is lonely. Yeah, I know he No, he did. He
sounded lonely.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
He was like, guys, do I have time to be
able to talk about something because he's you know, driving
through Kansas. If you've ever driven through Kansas, there's not
much going on from Kansas to Denver, not a whole lot.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
Paulie, would you learn today?
Speaker 7 (41:04):
Kevin Love is back in the mix?
Speaker 3 (41:07):
Todd witted?
Speaker 11 (41:07):
I learn in case you hadn't hurt Noted Dames Hannah
Hidalgo an amazing player, the face of college hoops.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
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An autograph calendar coming up Sunday night. Great matchup in
a weekend full of great matchups.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
But it'll be the.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Lions and Eagles in Philadelphia. Jared Goff, Jalen Hurtz, and
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We'll get to more phone calls coming up. Say good
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(01:23):
I'll let him talk about that coming up. You know,
yesterday was the anniversary of your thirty point thirty rebound
actually thirty one points thirty one rebounds game. What do
you remember most about that?
Speaker 4 (01:36):
I had just come off a game against the Lakers
against pau Gasol and Andrew Bidom where I didn't score.
Speaker 5 (01:44):
You know, I laid an.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Egg, so I needed to make my presence known, and
you know, it just so happened. That kind of started
the you know, streak of double doubles where you know,
I had fifty plus in a row, and I think
that led me into my first All Star Game as well,
So that that season was certainly a breakout year for me,
(02:07):
and I ended up being I believe, most improved at
the end of that season.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
And here we are, season eighteen, so I'm still here.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
I got gray hair, matching the shirt, trying to look
as good as you do when you you know, I
don't know your secret, damn, but withstood the test of
time as well. But a lot of fund memories from
my first six years in Minnesota. In that game in particular,
is one of the highlights.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
What player do you think gave you the most of
your gray hairs?
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Defensively going against Dirkowitzki, there was just nothing you could
do to stop that. And then I would say on
the offensive end, it was probably because I was the
fifth pick. I was the new guy in Minnesota. You know,
I came into the league. Boston was a superpower in
the East. It was Kevin Garnett. So those two guys
(02:59):
gave me a lot of gray hairs. But I also
believe in that time frame when I came in two
thousand and eight, two thousand and nine, for several years,
I mean, it was Zach Randolph, it was Pougasol, it
was Tim Duncan, it was Blake Griffin, it was LaMarcus Aldridge.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
It was Dirk.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
And that's just the Western Conference and I'm leaving a
number of guys out, but at that position, it was Yeah.
It certainly aged me.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Go back to the NBA Finals when you were with
the Cavs Game seven, final minute and you get switched
off with Steph Curry.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Sure, I tell everybody all the time that you know,
we had gone over that play. I can't tell you
how many times, and we were switching one through five.
I knew that they were going to call my number up.
They didn't want Tristan Thompson to switch off. They didn't
want you know, Lebron, you know, really anybody else, Kyrie
(04:00):
j R.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
Smith.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
They wanted to call me up. And you know I
was able to switch off on his Steff. I kept
my feet down and I knew he was going to
try and get to his bag. I knew he was
going to try and get to, you know, a three
point shot. That year he was unanimous MVP. They were
seventy three and nineteen.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
And your arms are flailing like you're you're karate.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
Listen like if you you know, it's like old school when.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Wilf Ferrell goes up there and does the debate and
he like fully blacks out. That is exactly what actually
I tell everybody all the time that Steph gave up
that ball. He gave it back to Draymond, and what
I was supposed to actually do was deny the ball
back to Steph. So in terms of EQ and knowing
the game and the situation and all that was at stake,
(04:53):
I always told everybody was actually like a you know,
I kept my feet down, arms were flailing. Like I said,
I blacked out. You know, I contested a the heavily
contested shot. So I did my job. But they don't
realize that it was actually a in some ways a
bad defensive play in terms of our concepts and what
we were trying to get done. I was supposed to
(05:14):
deny that ball back. Steph Curry was never supposed to get.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
That ball back.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
So you know, there's a number of plays in that
game that that that stick out to me. Obviously the
block by Lebron, the shot by Kyrie that put us ahead,
and it was just yeah, I just that was that
was all I could do to to do my part.
Had a tough series, but the end of the day,
(05:38):
people remember that last game, and.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
You know that stop was a huge moment in my career.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
All right, let's clear up something that happened last year.
There was a headline that was written Kevin Love graciously
reacts to Dan Patrick's disappointing Cooper Fly comparison.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Okay, were you so sensitive?
Speaker 6 (05:59):
Man?
Speaker 4 (05:59):
I didn't take any any any type of I didn't
feel any sort of way about that. As you know,
i've been a friend of the show. I've been i
mean a friend of yours. I'd like to call your
friend for a long time.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Did you know what I was trying to say?
Speaker 5 (06:13):
Of course?
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Of course, that's where, like you know, things get taken
out of context, and you know, people, and I mean
in general, people like the common fan that that add
so much to our game and sports in general, they
want to take that and make it something that it's not.
So I didn't take any offense to that. I know
(06:36):
that I've had a damn good career. I feel like
I've left some stuff on the table. But of course,
one hundred percent, I understand what you were saying. But
I've I've seen Cooper play in college when I'm when
they played Miami. I've met with his parents a number
of times. I've seen him up close. I've watched him
(06:57):
since he's been fifteen years old. And you know, I
know the Maps are having a tough go, but there's.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
So much pressure on him in the post, I'm blaming us,
the media. We won't be satisfied if he made five
NBA All Star teams and wonted title played on the
Olympic team. I mean, you're going to be a Hall
of Famer. I'm blaming the media because we won't be satisfied, right,
And I think people took it differently.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
Yeah, I think that's true, and that's unfortunately in some
cases is the world that we live in.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
But it would be better if you were actually mad
at me. This would be good content, Kevin.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Yeah, exactly right, And I think that's what people want, right.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
But I'm just listen.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
I'm very comfortable in my career, very comfortable where I'm
at now, and you know, I hate looking back in
the rear view, and I think that in some cases
that creates complacency. But no, I knew exactly what you
were saying, and I think I even said like, and
I believe that and fill that with every ounce of
(08:02):
my being. Like, I've always been a fan of the
show and will continue to be. There's no hard feelings
because I know the context in which you said it
in and what people wanted to get out of it.
On the other side, But again, like, if you want
me to be pissed off, you know, we could make
some good headlines here.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
What's your favorite memory of Kobe when you played on
the Olympic team with him?
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Oh man, okay, So best best memory with Kobe was
we had finished a gold medal game. We had beat Spain,
you know, like a saw Brothers, Ricky Ruby, all those
those great teams that they had had two thousand and eight.
You know, it was kind of a running it back
in twenty twelve. And so when you know, we're thinking
(08:42):
we're going back to the locker room, we're thinking we're
doing the champagne shower, and you know, that was I
hadn't had that moment before, you know, twenty sixteen was
really that first moment where I had felt that type
of you know, the joy of winning and winning big
at that type of level. So we're walking off and
you know, we do the media after the game. As
(09:05):
we walk off and are headed to the locker room,
and they say, mister Brian, mister Love, come with us.
We're thinking we're doing media and we get drug tested.
We get drug tested and we have to So we
have a couple people on the staff, I forget exactly
who it was bring us champagne and we just had
(09:28):
to sit there and I think we probably got about,
you know, thirty ish, maybe half an hour of just
Kobe and myself talking all things just about life and
kids in career. That was a very special moment for me,
(09:48):
especially all all things considered now with obviously the terrible
tragedy that happened with him. But I look back with
that as a very fond memory in my basketball life
journey because he was a giant in my eyes and
a lot.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
Of people's eyes. And you know, I grew up a fan.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
I loved this game of the way that he chased
it as number eight, as number twenty four, and you know,
he certainly holds a special place in my heart in
terms of, you know, my overall basketball career and journey
these last thirty years.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
What was it like to get yelled at by Lebron?
Speaker 5 (10:27):
I still get yelled at by Lebron.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
I'll see him for other reasons, of course. But you know,
when I first got to Cleveland's, I had bad habits.
Like I look back, I had bad habits. I didn't
know what it meant to sacrifice. I didn't truly have
my first few years. But in my six years in Minnesota,
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like a vet to show me the way and to
deal with adversity and to understand, you know, what it
meant to be a good pro and also a good teammate.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
So I think.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Some of those moments and you know, him yelling at
me and wanting me to be better was you know,
I would hope because he saw something more in me,
and also that you know, I was rough around the edges.
I needed to grow up in a lot of ways.
But I think that took looking in the mirror and
understanding that things weren't adding up as I would have liked.
(11:27):
And I think the adjustment curve in period was tough
for me that that first year. You know, I went
from being a guy that was a twenty plus point score,
ten plus rebounds, and you know, I'm all NBA guy,
and you know I had a step and sacrifice and
you play on the perimeter and let a basketball, you know,
(11:53):
magician and Kyrie getting downhill. You know, I've never seen
it below the rim finisher quite like him, so special
and then a freight train in Lebron do their thing,
and you know it was about spacing for us and
we were we ended up being a machine. We were
a team that was thrived under chaos. Sure, I think
that's part of what we're talking about. But you know,
(12:15):
certainly those are some of my my my favorite memories
because I do feel like personally a professionally I have
Uh it'll come a come a long way, but it
definitely added to a little bit this this, these grays
here in that silver Fox.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
What are you doing with Shift Naturals?
Speaker 4 (12:32):
So I invested in the company Shift Naturals out of
ben Orgon. I grew up, you know, just just down
the street in Portland, Oregon, and it's a you know,
I'm talking about longevity here, right and really unwinding from
the grind. And for me, you know, this was an easy,
(12:54):
you know, thing to be a part of. It's a
hell Hemp based beverage brand and it's focused on that unwinding.
Sparkling water is ready to drink cocktails and gummanies meant
to help you relax and feel good without you know,
a hangover. And I think that that model really defines them,
that unwind from the grind and it's better for you.
It's great tasting, and you know, it's something that I
(13:17):
implemented into my everyday life.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
How did you I was going to say courage.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
I don't know if you'd use that, but you came
forward with mental health, Jared. It's something that especially guys
don't talk about. But can you help me understand maybe
the week leading up to that, where you actually said,
I need to talk to this about this, Uh, bring
this to people's attention.
Speaker 7 (13:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
Well, it was All Star of twenty eighteen, and if
you can remember that time in February, you know, there
was a lot leading up to that in my personal
and professional life. I'd been named an All Star that year,
but even prior in the summertime, there was you know,
things going on within you know, my family and my
(14:01):
extended family, people within arms distance, whether I was going
through it or they were going through it, or you know,
we were estranged or not speaking or on bad terms.
And then you know, we we trade Kyrie Irving and
we still have the expectations of you know, if not
making the NBA Finals, then you know, going and winning
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the NBA Finals.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
And so our team a lot of new faces, a.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
Lot of new parts, and we did not have a
good start to the season.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
And I think that that was stuff.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
I had broken my hand, you know, I had the
panic attack in November of that year against the Atlanta Hawks,
and everything kind of led up to All Start, you know,
that year. So I had the game taken away from me,
and I was just you know, so much of the
time I was able to just lean into basketball as
a as a safe space, so that being taken away,
the team didn't know what was going on. My teammates
(15:00):
didn't know what was going on. I was afraid that
I was going to be you know, found out. I
didn't want anybody to know because how it was going
to affect my livelihood and you know those things said.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
You know, there was rumblings around All Star as well.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
I started giving questions about, you know, where my head
was and you know, how I was really feeling, and
I think people started to catch wind of it. And
I mentioned Parking, Florida because I'm like, Okay, what is
really going on in our country and that community and
(15:32):
you know, those kids, those parents who's all affected by that.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
And I thought that there was some some good to
be done.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
By you know, sharing my story because I know that
all of you know, those people and so many others
now that I've found out in March of that year,
when I pressed in on that first person article just
you know, my idea was to just help that next person,
help that one person and and you know, maybe you
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can change the trajectory of their life and thinking of
their families, their friends, their siblings, mom, dad, you know, teachers, community, peers.
You just don't know the ripple effect that that could
have just changing one life. So that, you know, led
me to start the Kevin Lovelund as well. So it's
been a great, you know, a great thing and something
(16:24):
legacy wise that I know that I'll have after basketball.
But I think that's what led me to share and
as well as DeMar de Rosen sharing his story you
know as well, or just a passive tweet that struck
me as as something that it felt like it was
very courageous, and I got to speak with him at
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All Star of that year, and I think he could
really said it in his book that you know, he
could sense something was going on. So that that that kinship,
that brotherhood as as has really.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
Evolved as well.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
And you know, we've continued to do the work the
last US seven US heres.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
It's called Shift Naturals.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
You can visit Enjoyshift dot com for more information.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Great to catch up with you. Stay in touch.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
Yeah sounds good.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Thank you, Belly, appreciate it. Kevin Love I've always enjoyed him.
I think he's a very interesting person and probably will
make a great coach or analyst when it's all said
and done. Speaking of analysts, Chris Sims will join us.
Coming up next, we'll try to make sense of what's
going on with the Eagles. Also which team as the
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A twenty Eastern Football Night America starts at seven Eastern. Chris,
let me start with the Eagles with Aj Brown. He
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can be telling us the truth. He can be correct
in his assessment of the offense. It's just the style
in which he's telling us these things I have a
problem with. Tell me what is different about the Eagles
this year as opposed to last year, and in particular
AJ Brown?
Speaker 8 (19:00):
Well, I think you know, last year they got the
running game going to such an extent that it basically
made everything really easy. Right, everything now it didn't even matter.
I mean again, let's not forget there was a seven
or eight week stretch towards the end of the season
where last year in Philadelpia were like, man, can they
throw the ball? Can they really do anything like that?
This is not like it's just coming up out of nowhere.
Speaker 7 (19:20):
Again.
Speaker 8 (19:21):
It was also like that the year before too, when
they you know, kind of had the meltdown late in
this football season. So this has been a continual, you
know issue with them. They're not extremely creative, right. The
quarterback is not surgical playing within the pocket.
Speaker 9 (19:36):
You know.
Speaker 8 (19:37):
I don't think the quarterback wants them to do a
whole lot on offense either.
Speaker 7 (19:41):
So they're very simple that way.
Speaker 8 (19:42):
And I say that because I know that I've been
told by that by people that have played their coach There, been, there, there,
now whatever.
Speaker 7 (19:48):
So those are the issues. So yeah, they lack.
Speaker 8 (19:52):
A creative schematical attack on a week to week basis
where they basically rely on and when you see Jalen
h Her in the passing game have a good game, what happens.
It's always the same thing, Dan. The team has to
play run defense to such an extent, then now we
can just throw a go ball to AJ Brown or
we throw a slant to Devonte Smith and then they
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run and do that. But there's never like, ooh, watch
this systematical destruction they're doing right here. And without the
run game, all those things kind of get put at
the forefront. And we all go, what's going on with
the most talented offense in football?
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Why isn't anybody else complaining?
Speaker 8 (20:30):
That's a fair question. I get that you've heard the
offensive lineman going, we're predictable. We have people saying the
plays when we're lining up there, right, But at the
same time, too, right, they're wasting one of their biggest
assets in their football team. We've got a guy that's
making thirty two million dollars. It is one of the
best offensive players in the game, and they can't find
a way to let him touch the football. That's kind
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of crazy in the twenty twenty five NFL. You know
so again, I don't sit here and condone all the
things he said and done this thing what he just
did on playing online, playing in a game with somebody.
I don't think he said anything crazy there. I didn't
have that much of a problem with it. He just Hey,
we're not good, don't take me on fantasy. We should
be better. Yeah, it's obvious stuff, right, But yes, I
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understand your point in airing out their dirty laundry sometimes.
Speaker 7 (21:18):
Sure, I got you.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
What should we be watching for with Drake May tonight?
Speaker 8 (21:22):
Oh man man, Drake May is. First off, what I
love is the aggressive nature of the offense. Right you're
watching them every week. It's not dink and dunk and
like they're managing Drake May. Is that like they haven't
gone the full Tom Brady offense yet because it's a
hard offense and he's learning it. And I think Vrabel
wants to play a certain way, so it's not just like, hey,
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the ball's in your hands, so you know, tear them
up that way. They play a balanced game of football.
They can really run the football, but when they drop
back to pass, they're looking for heavy hitters. And that's
what I love about Drake May. He is just as
poised as can be in the pocket. He's fearless with
people around him, and he is an unreal intermediate deep
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ball thrower right now and then when it's not there,
as you know, he's getting to the point like Tampa
Bay last week, Dan they spied him. His running is
getting good enough to wear a third downs. The defensive
coordinator's like, we got to account for him. We got
to have a plan here, so he'll post some problems.
The Jets defense, though, is no slouch. They're one of
the better pass defenses in all football. I don't think
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it's just gonna be bombs away play after play. The
problem is, we know the Jets offense stinks, and you
know eventually the dam will break with the Jets all together.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
But with Josh McDaniels, there are they running? Are they
running Tom Brady's offense? Maybe just it's a little watered down.
Speaker 8 (22:40):
Exactly they are they are? And you know, I think
the world Josh McDaniels. You know, you can say what
you want about him as a head coach, there's no
denying he's one of the best offensive coordinators in football
for about twenty years straight here, And yeah, I think
it's like it's early years Brady offense right now. That's
what I would say, Dan, Like when they were winning
those first three Super Bowls, they weren't in the shotgun
just Wes Welker Edelman, We're gonna just totally destroy you
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that way, right It was a little bit more we're
gonna run the ball, and then we're gonna fake the
run and Tom's gonna sit there and throw a twenty
yard laser down the field for play action passes somebody.
That's kind of the way they're playing, right now, it's
like early two thousands, Patriots, your MVP as of today
is Matthew Stafford. I'm gonna go with Matthew Stafford. Yeah,
I mean again, Drake May in that combo for sure, right,
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I mean we'll see where Baker Mayfield. I'm still not
gonna take him out of there, but I think the
top three right now would be Stafford, Drake May and
Jonathan Taylor. For my money, those would be the three
guys i'd look at. Stafford is you know, phenomenal. It's
just phenomenal. And again a lot like Drake May. It's
not like it's a dink and dunk golfense. He drops
back and he's like, where's Pooka? Is he thirty yards
down the field? Oh no, he's not open. Lo Oh,
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there's Davante. He's forty yards down the field. Show right.
I mean that's where he is. Phenomenal that way, and
for being the gun slinger he is and the arm
talent he still has and still to what he's only
thrown two interceptions. Yeah, I'll give him the title right now.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
As we said, and I thought this would be his
last year. I love them as a team and a
super Bowl contender. It just came down to Matt's health
and he's I don't know how many times he's been sacked,
but probably not very many. You've got a great coach,
you've got a couple of great receivers, and you've got
a running back, you got some playmakers on defense, and
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then you got this show down with Seattle. How is
Seattle making this work kind of in the shadows here,
Yeah it is.
Speaker 8 (24:28):
And I know you don't listen to me like on
a daily basis, and don't expect you to, but Seattle's
one of those teams. For about three weeks, I've gone
on my shows, different shows and gone, They're the team
everybody's sleeping on. Seattle can go to the super Bowl.
They're that good. They literally are that talented. And I
think that their offense and what they do fits Sam
Donald a lot better than what he was in the Minnesota.
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So the first thing is they can legitimately run the
ball this year, where like if you don't play run defense,
they will run the ball with success. And then if
we know if you overplay the run. They're one of
the most aggressive passing teams in football too, yards per attempt,
yards per completion you look it up. Sam Darnold's at
the top of the list in that department, and then
you add Rashid Shaheed to it. So they have a
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great combination of like, hey, we can run the ball
when you cheat and stop the run. We got some
guys on the outside, even Cooper Cup that can beat
you down the field watch out. And then that Shanahan
play action scheme is so effective off of that. With
Clint Kubiak the other side, I have a man crush
on their defense. Dan, they're front five, they're front four.
I mean, it's one big baller after another. So they
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can win the physical battles and their secondary is awesome
on top of that. Not totally healthy yet, but it's
between that and the scheme. Yeah, as I've said a
lot of times this week, like don't be shocked if
we're sitting here Championship Sunday and the Seattle Seahawks are there.
I put them in the same class as the Lions,
the Eagles, and the Rams or the Bucks in the NFC.
Speaker 7 (25:54):
The NFC's got some heavy hitters this year, that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Vikings having more of a seller's remorse with Daniel Jones
or Sam Darneld.
Speaker 7 (26:05):
That's a good question there.
Speaker 8 (26:07):
You know, I think that they made up their mind
they didn't want the Sam Donald thing at the end
of the year, you know, after the Detroit game and
then going into the RAM game, which the Ram game
wasn't Sam Donald's fault. The wild card game, I mean,
they got their butts whooped. In totality, everybody got whooped.
Nobody had a chance on that football game, whoever played quarterback.
But you know, the Daniel Jones things. I had heard
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from some people up there and some credible people that
they really like Daniel Jones. And again, as you've heard
me say to you before, the league views Daniel Jones
differently than the fans do. And so yeah, I would
think there's some buyers remorse. But at the same time,
like they they were invested in JJ McCarthy, they trade
it up to get him. They had to do this.
He's a top ten pick or eleven pick whatever. He
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is right in that range where you know, they got
to see what they got here. So can he stay
healthy here? He is can't practice yesterday?
Speaker 7 (26:59):
Right.
Speaker 8 (27:00):
There is some talent there, but it's not going to
be like he's going to be able to run the
offense like Sam Darnold did last year or Kirk Cousins
before that.
Speaker 7 (27:07):
He's basically a rookie. So there's gonna be a few
bumps in the road as we go forward.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Here feels like people are bailing on Jayden Daniels because
he got hurt. He did turn in maybe the greatest
rookie season of quarterbacks ever had.
Speaker 8 (27:23):
I'm so sick of the fickle nature of fans right now.
Like trust me, I mean, I have people now be
like Drake may he's better than Jadon Daniels now right.
Speaker 7 (27:32):
I mean bo Nick is better than Jayan Daniels now right.
And it's like, no, No, jane Daniels is phenomenal.
Speaker 8 (27:38):
This is the only issue you really had about Janean
Daniels that I think I worried about and other teams
worried about, is he's frail. I mean, he can be
painfully skinny looking at in the field of times. So
this is what we all wondered. Could he take the
punishment of the NFL when he ran a little bit
and did that. But still, I mean he's phenomenal and
the class is phenomenal. I mean, come on, Caleb Williams
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is going like this too, and he's totally getting reconstructed
as a quarterback robot here right in front of us.
So it's an incredible class right now that I feel
like you really only question right now to this point
is is JJ McCarthy and Michael Pennix and where are
they gonna go?
Speaker 7 (28:15):
The talent's there, but it's just been all over the
place so far.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
It feels like it was two months ago, six weeks
ago people were bailing on Caleb Williams Ben Johnson relationship
that it wasn't going to work.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
And I'm thinking, do we give up that quickly?
Speaker 7 (28:31):
With?
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Yeah, that talent? And then you bring in Ben Johnson
who's trying to get him to play the position how
he envisions it instead of Caleb Bin visions it exactly.
Speaker 7 (28:41):
That's a lot. That's a lot, Dan, You're spot on.
Speaker 8 (28:44):
I mean, this is the guy that his whole life
in Caleb Williams has been able to drop back and go, uh,
I can just make it happen. I'll just make this
throw or I'll scramble and move and buy some times
and make it happen. And he's got now Ben Johnson
coming into town. And going no, no, no, that's cool. You
might be able to do that, and you know the
Pac ten against some crappy defenses are in the Big
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twelve and all that, and you might get away with
it against a few offenses defenses in the NFL. But
as a whole, if you want to win a Super Bowl,
you gotta run an offense. You gotta run an offense.
You can't think you're just gonna make a play in
a big moment. You got to trust the system and
be systematic that way. And he hasn't been that totally yet,
but he's getting there, that's for sure. And his talent
is eye popping. I mean, to me, it's eye popping.
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I mean what you see is running. His running is
like a third down running back. He breaks tackles and
breaks ankles and does all that. His arm is arguably
the strongest in football. It's right up there with Josh Allen. Right,
But you know, throwing balls on time, in rhythm in
the pocket and all that, that's still a learning process.
And you explained it right, And Ben Johnson, of course
has a million rules and laws to his offense. That's
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a big learning curve.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Well, I want him to be Jared Goff through the
first three quarters, then he can be Caleb Williams in
the fourth quarter.
Speaker 8 (29:55):
That's that's a great way to put it. That's what
he should be. You're exactly right. And I think if
you looked at me and you sat down and watch
film right now of Caleb Williams, you'd go, ah, yeah,
there's a little too much, you know, trying to color
outside the lines in the first three quarters where you
just go, wait, that little slant route or that under
route was open, Let's hit it. Let's be in second
and four, let's just keep going that way. And yeah,
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he hasn't totally gotten there yet.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
To your point, Dan, the Giants situation with Jackson Dart, Like,
I don't know how much this played into the firing
of Brian Dable, but if you're gonna have designed runs
mm hmm with your quarterback who runs like a running back,
like I have to protect Jackson Dart from himself.
Speaker 7 (30:37):
That crossed my mind. I don't think you're crazy for that.
You know.
Speaker 8 (30:40):
There's a little bit of like a thing with the
Giants where I was like, are they just gonna go
all out and ruin the football team just to save
their jobs, right, And that's where I was like, ownership's
got to look at the bigger picture here, right, It's like,
we gotta win this one or I might be get fired.
I'm gonna ruin the rookie quarterbacks career today and run
them up the middle seventy five times, but I want
to win the keep my But he was.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Knocking on the you know, the blue tent and yes,
getting Jackson Dart out there.
Speaker 7 (31:05):
I went, wow, right, that's right.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
This this was a troubling situation because it really felt
like Brian dabele knew I can't put Russell Wilson in there.
Speaker 7 (31:15):
I'm totally with you.
Speaker 8 (31:16):
And then even last week he gets concussed and then
he comes in, plays two plays and then somebody with
some brains went, wait, that guy's brain's not working functionally here, let's.
Speaker 7 (31:25):
Get him out of the football game. But yeah, I
would was that was that.
Speaker 8 (31:29):
You know a part of my thought at first was
like many they just they don't trust him, and they
don't feel like he's protecting Jackson Dart. You know, certainly
that crossed my mind, but I think ultimately, you know,
they just they wanted to turn the page on Brian Dayball,
and I don't know if I totally agree with it.
I'll just say from this like, I'm all for the new,
you know, getting a new head coach. I think there's
(31:51):
a part of me though, that goes, wait, you know
Jackson Dart and what he's doing, it is going this way?
Do we want to disrupt that right now? Maybe just
keep that going and then we can fire Dayball after
the year. I think we all knew it was going
that way anyways. It didn't matter, right, So I just
wonder if this disrupts the whole process of Jackson Dart
to a degree.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Is Jameis Winston goofy on purpose? I think no, he's
like that naturally. And I say that in a in
a good way, right. Jameis Winston I think was afraid
for a long time to show his true personality because
of some of the things that happened in college in
his early career where I think he was like, wait,
I'm the number one pick. There's a bad reputation out
(32:30):
of here, so let me be a little bit, you know,
a little bit, you know, as far as just a
straight arrow. But I think he's gotten to a point
in his life where he's finally like, hey, the hell
with it, I'm just going to be myself.
Speaker 7 (32:41):
And I really love being around him.
Speaker 8 (32:44):
He is he is hilarious, he's funny, it's natural.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
Do you want as your quarterback?
Speaker 8 (32:50):
Not as a starting quarterback? No, but I want him
over Russell Wilson. I think that is no doubt. I'll
take that. I you know again, I don't think Russell
Wilson plays to win games anymore. I think he just
he's not to lose. Jamis is going to play to
win this week. And yeah, he might throw some interceptions,
but he might throw some of the damnest touchdown passes
we've ever seen too, And I'd rather watch that than
russeill either throw a go route or take a sack.
Speaker 7 (33:11):
I don't want to see that.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
I can't imagine somebody giving Russ another chance.
Speaker 7 (33:16):
No, No, does Russ really want another chance?
Speaker 8 (33:20):
I mean, I think Russ came to New York because
he wants to live the New York life, and they're
more worried about being.
Speaker 7 (33:24):
Famous and all that.
Speaker 8 (33:26):
And yes, I mean the days of being a starting
quarterback are certainly over. It's just, yeah, does he want
to take the Joe Flacco route and be a backup
somewhere and maybe revive his career that way.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
Good to talk to you. Thanks has always have a
great weekend.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
And you know you can always text me if you
want to tell me, hey, Seattle is legitimate, you know,
just send a text. Hey, Okay, sure, try to find
your podcast or watching you in Florio.
Speaker 8 (33:50):
I mean, well, I do want you to watch christimsu Button.
But you can text me too and ask those questions.
It's not against the rules. I check the rule book.
You're allowed to do that, all right, Tell those jerks,
I said, Hi.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Hey Jerks, Pro Football Talk Live co host and his
Unbuttoned podcast as well. He'll be there on Football Night
in America. We'll take a break. Your phone calls, what
we learn, what's in store tomorrow after this.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
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Speaker 2 (34:24):
Rob Gronkowski's going to join us on the program tomorrow.
Couple of phone calls in here, Aaron in Fresno. I
think Gronk signing that one day contract with the Patriots.
Hi Erin, thank you for holding DP.
Speaker 9 (34:39):
Dannett, thanks for diacking my call. I got a poll
question and a birthday shout out, but real quick, Dylan,
I love the hoodie. Can you do me a favor
and get like Dan a little Workingman's Dead American beauty playlist?
With that being said, poll question, are you in or
out on the new NBA All Star format? And lastly,
happy birthday shout out to my mom, Sherry Lynd. You
(35:02):
guys are the best. Have a great day.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Thank you, Erin, I am in on the All Star format?
Andrew and Desmonet, Hi, Andrew, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 10 (35:13):
Good morning Dan, six foot and a hard one ninety.
Speaker 7 (35:17):
Five hard.
Speaker 6 (35:21):
Dan.
Speaker 10 (35:21):
I got Hawks on the brain. The Hawks are six
and a half foot dogs at USC this weekend, and
so I've got a bet for Fritzi.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
Oh okay, wait, the Hawks.
Speaker 10 (35:37):
Can win at USC this weekend. I would like Fritzy
to sing the Iowa victory poka on air.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Okay, what does Fritzie get if Iowa doesn't win?
Speaker 10 (35:49):
I will take a big old USC pie to the face.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
All right, Todd, you're up for singing?
Speaker 6 (35:55):
I always like to sing.
Speaker 11 (35:56):
I'd have to listen to it ahead at timpt to
Notes to Beyond, try to be on Keith.
Speaker 7 (36:00):
I don't think they all change anything.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
Yeah, but yeah, well let's do it all right.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
You got to bet there. Andrew Nate in La, Hi, Nate,
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 3 (36:09):
Hey, good morning, Dan.
Speaker 12 (36:10):
It's a beautiful day in La. Despite being in the
firt tea lane on the highway. QULT shout out to
my loyal Marymount University of Lion meant basketball the start
of the season's bourn Nope, could be our year. A
question for you guys is do you think with Michael
Jordan's back on NBC NBA, do you think they'll showcase
or would want to see him showcase in any capacity
(36:33):
maybe like a Legends game or I don't know, free
throw contest.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
No, no, no, no no.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
I think it's it's enough work that he has to
sit down in a chair at his house in Mike
Erico ask him questions. That's that's about as stressful as
Mike wants it right now. But I mean, it'd be
great if he went to the All Star festivities, but
you know, he can't go anywhere.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
It's not going to be fun for him.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
And maybe I still want Reggie Miller to sit down
with Mike and have a conversation that to me would
be really interesting.
Speaker 5 (37:10):
Now.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
I don't know if Jordan would do it. Reggie said
that last week, then he would love to do it.
Those are the kind of things that I want out
of Michael. I mean, talking about load management, I couldn't
care less about that. I mean, yeah, back in the day,
you didn't have load management. I don't know if you
would have it nowadays. I mean, if Larry Bird played nowadays,
(37:32):
there would be load management, I'm guessing, or Steve Nash
because you're trying to extend their careers. But just calling
out these guys and you know, talking about load management
nothing changes.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
They're probably going shut up, you know, Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 11 (37:48):
I want Mike to talk about specific players like I want.
I want to hear his thoughts on Wenby Shay Gilgess.
He plays the two guard positions just like Mike did,
and guys like that, So I would like that.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Yeah, I would too. Gus and Vegas, Hi Gus, what's
on your mind today?
Speaker 6 (38:03):
Hi Dan?
Speaker 12 (38:04):
Heygus five.
Speaker 6 (38:11):
We've all been following Seaton's road trip out here to
Las Vegas and I understand you're going to be broadcasting
from the fabulous Fountain Blue Hotel late next week here
in Vegas, and I was curious, Dan, if fans are
going to be able to come down and watch the
show live when you're broadcasting here.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
I believe so, but I got to get the final
details that we'll probably have Monday or Tuesday. But I'll
let you know, Gus. Last time we were there, we
had a great response. The audience came out.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
And it was cold.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
Those mornings were cold in Las Vegas, and they were
really early too. You know, that's the hard part is
you're in Vegas where everybody stays out late, and we're
getting up when everybody's coming in. You know, the afternoons
are warm.
Speaker 11 (39:02):
Yes, Marvin, I did love walking through the casino and
seeing a couple of NFL players still at the craps
table where we left them the night before at this
four o'clock in the morning, Like.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Hey, aren't you a wide receivers?
Speaker 13 (39:15):
How about this day in sports history? Paul nineteen ninety one.
Roger Clemens won his third sty Young Award for the
American League. Nineteen ninety three, oh On Brand, the Dallas
Mavericks began a twenty game losing streak, and nineteen ninety
five Greg Maddox of the Braves was the first pitcher
to win four consecutive sty Young Awards.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
Yeah, that's amazing, amazing.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
I saw where he was up on stage. I don't
know if it was a forum where they were asking questions,
and somebody asked, how did he pitch to Barry Bonds?
He said it was really easy. I just walked him.
I did no stress level. I just didn't pitch. He said,
he's the greatest hitter. He said that, you know, it
(40:00):
didn't matter what you did. I'm always amazed, though, when
you are so disciplined at the plate, and he's as
disciplined as anybody who ever played the game. And he knew,
if I got one pitch, if chances are in for
a bats, I'm getting one pitch.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
I gotta take advantage of that. And he was able to.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
Let's go around the room. What we learned on the program?
Tod'd you learn anything today?
Speaker 7 (40:26):
I did?
Speaker 3 (40:26):
Kay Love says, trying to defend Dirk gave him the
most gray hairs. Yeah, he said he was unstoppable. Dylan,
would you learn today Seten O'Connor not a red Hot
Chili Peppers fan apparently not or Foo Fighters. Marvin Seeing
is lonely. Yeah, I know he No, he did. He
sounded lonely.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
He was like, guys, do I have time to be
able to talk about something because he's you know, driving
through Kansas. If you've ever driven through Kansas, there's not
much going on from Kansas to Denver, not a whole lot.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
Paulie, would you learn today?
Speaker 7 (41:04):
Kevin Love is back in the mix?
Speaker 3 (41:07):
Todd witted?
Speaker 11 (41:07):
I learn in case you hadn't hurt Noted Dames Hannah
Hidalgo an amazing player, the face of college hoops.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
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