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August 7, 2025 41 mins

Dan starts the hour with a popsicle. The crew discusses Hall of Fame worthy quarterbacks in the NFL, and attention shifts to Rams quarterback Matthew Stafford and the respect given to him by other players in the NFL in spite of his time with the Lions – is he set for the Hall of Fame? But if Jared Goff takes the Lions to the Super Bowl, does he get in the Hall before Stafford does?

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
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of the Dan Patrick Show. I just had a popsicle.

(00:27):
I don't know when's the last time you had a popsicle?
Very underrated. I saw it in the freezer. Great popsicle,
and I go, yeah, yeah, tasted great. Now we also
have some drumsticks in there the ice cream. I thought
about that as well. Popsicle drumstick summertime. Who has it

(00:51):
better than we do? No, No, loody tod. I'm surprised
you didn't see the popsicles of the drumsticks there in
the freezer.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
I have not.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
Then, I don't know if it's soill gonna last more
than about twenty twenty five minutes once we go to break,
I could be a stick on my nose in there.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
Would you like to have a drumstick or a popsicle.

Speaker 4 (01:07):
I have to choose between one and the other.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
Well, you don't have to. I'm just saying if.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
I have one of those, I would lean towards the drumstick.
Sounds like there's more substance to that, Okay, sucking on.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
The ice pop yes, yes, Paul.

Speaker 5 (01:17):
You had this situation last year with the Nestli quick
up in Maine rawberry.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yeah, you're all very quick.

Speaker 5 (01:24):
Luxury item. There's some foods and drinks that we have
as kids that we just kind of give up on
because I guess you grow up, but I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Know, do you ever grow out of certain things.

Speaker 5 (01:35):
I've never given up on peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. Yes,
I'm wire to.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Wire like those what uncrustables.

Speaker 5 (01:41):
They're great, but even just making one at home, I'll
pop one in my bag.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
And Nick, you can throw them in the toaster. You
ready to go? Peebe and Jay never goes out of style. Yes, yes, Marvin.

Speaker 6 (01:55):
I feel that way about Vienna sausages really. Oh yes, absolutely,
right out of the can. I warm them up about
fifteen seconds, get some mustard. I'm all sick.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Okay, they're the PB and J of sausages. Yeah. Uh,
what's the poll question for the final after?

Speaker 7 (02:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:15):
I know it's it's just a random thought to stick
with it. I just had a popsicle and it was good.

Speaker 5 (02:22):
Yeah, Paul, I had about a month ago one of
those push ups there. It's like a orange Sherbert.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
Yeah, that was my coach.

Speaker 5 (02:30):
Okay, I hadn't seen those in decades.

Speaker 8 (02:32):
Oh what was that drink that, like friendlies used to
make the fribble? Now, not a fribble. It was like
a cooler or something like an orange cooler or something.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
It was kind of like.

Speaker 8 (02:41):
The milkshake version of what Paul just described. Holy Smokes.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
Was that good?

Speaker 4 (02:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yeah, Like those are the good old days.

Speaker 9 (02:50):
You know.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
Here's another one of the good old days. As you
get older and then you want your kids to watch
a movie that you watched and all of a sudden
there's references in there where you have to stop the
movie to explain what that reference is, you know, like
VCR huh, what's that? A floppy disc? What's that? We

(03:13):
kind of we watched the movie and then, like Ferris
Bueller's Day Off, my kids go this movie sucks and
I go why they go, Ferris Bueller's a bad guy.
I go, oh, okay, I thought he was just kind
of creative and genius. Yeah. See that happens a lot.

Speaker 8 (03:31):
Actually, when I will watch movies, whetherus son will be like,
oh my god, you're gonna love this. This dude is hilarious,
and then you watch it back and you're like, wow,
it turns out he was just a real jerk the
whole time.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
Why did we think that was so funny? And my
son will be like, who am I rooting for in this?

Speaker 8 (03:44):
Like, because the guy that you just said is awesome
turns out as a real idiot.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
And I never thought that. I thought man good for Farris,
you know, he's getting away with all of this stuff.
And then when you watch it with your kids and
they're like, he's a bad guy, I go, you know,
he's not a good friend at all. He's not a
good friend at all. No, yes, Marvion.

Speaker 6 (04:06):
See he took the words out of my mouth. I
don't know if he was a bad person, but he
was a terrible friend.

Speaker 5 (04:10):
Oh, I completely disagree with his premise. Ferris is surprising. Yeah,
I waser, yeah, yes, yes, I'm proud of I am
the Ferris Bueller of my neighborhood. Farris was trying to
motivate his friend to get out of his Doldrum's camp,
yeah camp, out of his doldrum life, and by taking

(04:31):
chances and pushing the envelope on behalf of his friend.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
He's a hero, yes, Todd, but he's taking.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
His already nervous and kind of psychologically messed up friend
and convincing him to like ends up destroying his dad's
you know, very expensive Caul.

Speaker 8 (04:44):
You're the thought, is you like the guy who's trying
to force someone else to be more like them rather
than just allowing them to be themselves exactly?

Speaker 5 (04:52):
Thank you for Summriz.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yes, yes, Wow.

Speaker 8 (04:55):
I wonder if I've ever seen that played out for
the last eighteen years anywhere.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
In the so Fritzy would be Cam yes, and you
would be Ferris and welcome to your day off?

Speaker 7 (05:07):
All right.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
A couple of phone calls Robin Orlando, Hi, Rob, welcome back.
What do you have for me?

Speaker 10 (05:14):
Hey?

Speaker 11 (05:14):
Dan?

Speaker 10 (05:15):
Hey, thanks for taking my call again. Man, Hey, I
just want to tell you three quick things. One, I
am I'm embarrassed for Todd that he doesn't know how
to operate a broom. I'm embarrassed for Marvin for a
small hands and I'm not sure if I should say this,
but but shuck it down.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
Oh okay, now we're not We're not going to pick
on Don ben nada that. We talked about it in
the first hour of the program. It was a discussion there.
But thank you for the phone call. Yes, should I
stop them printing the suck at Don t shirt? Yes,
we're not doing that. We're doing that. We did reach
out if the ESPN investigative reporter did want to join

(05:54):
us on the show. That was great. He said he
was busy, but I was willing to have a discussion
with him, saying that he was embarrassed for me.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
Yes, why did he get me twice with the broom
and the slushy as thing? Because Dona and that doesn't
have any kind.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
Of speech about They don't know why he was coming after.
You know what, We're gonna ban Rob. We're not going
to let him back on the show. Yeah, I'm gonna
ban him for a day. He can't go back until tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
That's what you get.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
Uh, JT and Charlotte, Hey JT.

Speaker 7 (06:27):
Hey Dan, second time, long time, I've got a couple.
Uh So, I was I was watching some TV and
I was online yesterday and I discovered that a couple
of big entities have taken a couple uniquely DP show

(06:47):
terms and kind of run with them. Okay, on Jeopardy,
one of the categories was about being quizical. M that
mm hmm yeah, and then on the other one it was,
uh no, I'll go ahead and mention it was on

(07:09):
the athletics. They were using the term as far as
the people's favorite college football teams HOPO Meter, which I
think Seton came up with that.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
That was PAULI the hop A meter. Is that right?

Speaker 5 (07:23):
A hope meter? Hop a meter? One of us did?

Speaker 2 (07:25):
Yeah, yeah, somebody one of the one of the dnuns did.
But thank you, thank you j T for the update
on that. That's okay. We share a sample. Ryan in Austin, Hi, Ryan,
what's on your mind?

Speaker 6 (07:42):
Hey?

Speaker 12 (07:42):
DT and the Boys?

Speaker 13 (07:43):
I got a question for you. I know Reggie Junior
Aloysius the third is an honorary DNET. But with college
football season kicking off, are we going to grant Chris
Sims with the privilege of being an honorary Dennet?

Speaker 14 (07:58):
I'll hang up and listen.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
Love you guys, we just don't hand it out like that.
I mean, we love Chris Sims, but he's welcome, but honorary. No,
I can't do that. Yes, Tom, and he's got.

Speaker 4 (08:08):
That nepotism background.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
So now we're just go doing it because it's still
sun so he doesn't disser.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
Thank you to Ethan in Iowa. Hi, Ethan, what's on
your mind?

Speaker 15 (08:18):
That's going?

Speaker 2 (08:19):
Dan?

Speaker 15 (08:20):
I got a statement and then a question. My first
statement is, Jerry Jones is the worst thing that could
ever happen to the Cowboys. I've been a Cowboys fan
since I was a kid. My dad made me be
one because he was you got to see all the
Super Bowls.

Speaker 7 (08:32):
I didn't.

Speaker 15 (08:32):
I know people were talking about it earlier, full handshake thing.
Unbelievable that you would even attempt to negotiate without Micah's agent,
considering Micah is the most valuable player to our team
and possibly in the NFL. I mean, the guy's got
the brightest future and that I know that's a buld take,
but I'm just I'm a delusional Cowboys fan. And then
next is my question, do you think the Cowboy sorry,

(08:54):
do you think Iowa state I'm going to Ireland for
the games. Do you think I would state will cover
the three and a half.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
That's not my wheel, that's not my wheel of expertise.
But I can ask the gambling guys Shan Irving and
Dylan and bad Larry coming up in about an hour
from now. Yes, Marv, it's not their expertise either. That's true.
If you listen to the gambling show, bet against Dylan,
that's where you make money. He's not very good, but

(09:23):
he's entertaining. He's entertainingly not very good. If you're watching
on Peacock, he's in there in the control room with Mario,
who's the eyes and ears of this show. Of course,
say good morning that I was watching on Peacock.

Speaker 5 (09:36):
Yes, Poem and our gambling show, unlike other gambling shows,
we tell you, don't bet off our picks, have fun with.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
The picks, don't expect to make money. That's kind of
our motto here. We're going to entertain you, but don't
expect to make money. All right, how about we play
the game. Who's more Hall of Faming? Do we have
some football music there, Marvin? All right, Paul, give us
candidate one candidate two. Who's more Hall of Famous?

Speaker 5 (10:03):
This is an offshoot of whose stats would you want?
But this is I don't want you to guess the player.
Just tell me based off stats? Who would you put
in the Hall of Fame? QB one seventeen seasons, one
oh eight and one thirteen is a starter. Three hundred
and seventy seven touchdowns, one hundred and eighty eight picks,
never led the league in touchdown picks, thirteen hundred career

(10:24):
rushing yards, a career QB rating of ninety one point two.
Here's the big stuff. Two Pro Bowls in seventeen years,
never in All Pro postseason record five and five, one
Super Bowl win, one Super Bowl appearance. QB two thirteen seasons,
one twenty one and one seventy seven is a starter.
Three hundred and fifty touchdowns, one eleven interceptions, led the

(10:47):
NFL and TD passes once five four hundred rushing yards.
Bonus career quarterback rating of ninety nine point eight. Ten
Pro bowls in thirteen years, one time he was first
team All Pro. Postseason record nine and eight, one super
Bowl win, one Super Bowl loss. Who is more Hall
of Fame? Based off stats?

Speaker 2 (11:08):
QB two is you said one twenty one and one
seventy seven, it's one twenty one and seventy seven. It's
his record as his starter on twenty one and seventy seven. Yeah,
I would say QB two, But then you want me
to say QB two.

Speaker 5 (11:22):
Is it fair to say QB two?

Speaker 2 (11:25):
Well, I got ten Pro Bowls. I've got a Super
Bowl win, two Super Bowl appearances, and over five thousand
yards rushing three hundred and fifty touchdown passes to one
hundred and eleven interceptions. That's as impressive as it gets
with that ratio led the NFL and TD passes once. Okay,

(11:48):
do you want to tell us? Okay, QB one.

Speaker 5 (11:50):
I will not tell you yet.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
Who is whom?

Speaker 5 (11:53):
Follow up question? Just answer off the top of your head.
Who do you think, if they stop playing right now
or if they didn't add much more to the resume,
is more likely to go in the Hall of Fame?
Matthew Stafford or Russell Wilson.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
I would say the momentum is on Matthew Stafford, Russell Wilson.

Speaker 5 (12:15):
Okay, momentum is a good word.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
Yeah, I think Matthew Stafford is on an uptick. Yes,
I thought that these sort of it wasn't even the uptick.
It was get the ring and you're in. Yes, was
basically the rule with Matthew Stafford. He's got everything you
need except for the ring and then you're in, and
then get that. Because it feels like Matthew Stafford is
the first, he's QB one.

Speaker 5 (12:38):
Matthew Stafford is QB one.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
And Russell Wilson Junior the third is QB two.

Speaker 5 (12:43):
Stats Wise, I think it's a clear case for QB two.
But like you said, the perception around Matthew Stafford is positive.
I think likability or whatever word you want to use
it isn't.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
Isn't an amazing the number of young quarterbacks who look
at Matthew Stafford as the guy. When c J. Stroud
talked a bit about this, Caleb Williams like, they were like,
Matthew Stafford's the guy, Like that's who you wanted to be.
And I never realized that because he played for the
Lions and you'd always be like, oh, Matthew Stafford and

(13:16):
he takes a beating man. They're not very good. But
I'm surprised he only went to two Pro Bowls. But
I mean playing for the Lions. It feels like you
got to grade him on a curve there. But Russ's
got the numbers absolutely, three hundred and fifty touchdown passes
to one hundred and eleven interceptions, ten Pro Bowls, five,

(13:39):
about fifty four hundred rushing yards.

Speaker 6 (13:42):
Yes, Marv, I think Reese's bias is helping Stafford and
it's hurting Russell.

Speaker 10 (13:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
Yes, well, hopefully they both get in, and they probably will.

Speaker 5 (13:52):
I think you're dead on on the lion's curve thing
though as well. It's like Matthew Stafford had to overcome
being a Lion.

Speaker 6 (14:00):
Yes, Marvin, I think Stafford. I think both of them
probably need one more Super Bowl. I don't think so
so guessing Matthew Stafford's in now.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
Yeah, Yeah, it just feels like he build up a
lot of good will. I think these young quarterbacks pointing
to him and saying that's who we want to emulate.
That was surprising to me. It's like younger players looking
at Paul George and they're like, I want to be
like Paul George. I'm like really, And the number of
young players in the NBA were going, man, Paul George,

(14:31):
he was the dude. He was the guy. Okay, yeah, Paul, does.

Speaker 5 (14:36):
It feel right now that Matthew Stafford is likely in
and Matt Ryan is likely going to wait a while?

Speaker 2 (14:43):
Well, you got Philip Rivers. Yeah, and you got Matt Ryan.
Who's more Hall of Faming out of those two.

Speaker 5 (14:50):
Matt Ryan four Pro Bowls, an MVP and.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
A Super Bowl loss, but a Super Bowl appearance, yes, yeah, yes,
Marv the no all pro thing.

Speaker 6 (15:00):
Only two Pro Bowls for Stafford? Yeah, for Stafford. Yeah,
it's surprising to me. He felt like a five time
Pro bowler. Yeah, in no time all pros because he
was playing on the Lions. But I mean, the Super
Bowl definitely helps. But I think I think too would
put him over the top for sure.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
Would another bad season put russ out on the outside
looking in? Yeah?

Speaker 8 (15:27):
Seen, Well that that part of the reason why I
think Matthew Stafford is absolutely and is sort of like
a kind of a tweak on what Paul said that he.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
Didn't survive the Lions.

Speaker 8 (15:37):
He made the Lions survivable and really they would have
probably gotten a ring if they if the Calvin Johnson
thing hadn't happened. You know, he has the benefit of
being robbed in one of the worst calls ever where
that sort of helps propel him into that other category.
He brought the Lions back. He made them a good

(15:58):
team again, he made them watchable, he made them not terrible.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
And I think the loyalty to the Lions, and I
mean that played a role too, you're I mean, he
took a beating, but he was the constant there with
the Lions, and maybe that once again, I don't know
what factors in with the pro football writers of what
they see, like what's important to you. If I look

(16:24):
at touchdown to interception ratio, russ is one of the
greatest of all time. Fifty four hundred yards. How many
quarterbacks have come close to fifty four hundred rushing yards?
You're in the playoffs, it just feels like that interception
against New England, because that that doesn't happen. They score
a touchdown, then there is no dispute. Yeah, and that's

(16:49):
not a bad play by him. It was a great
play by the defense. It was a bad call and
that's not his fault that you know.

Speaker 8 (16:57):
You know, I mean, I don't know why he's sort
of like wearing the burden of that because to me,
that wasn't a bad offensive play. It was just a
great defensive play. Sometimes somebody makes a better play than you.
You know, it's not like it was a portly thrown ball.
It wasn't overthrown. And then you're like, dang Russell, that
was a terrible throw.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
It was great. The other guy just made a better
play and steak and break. We'll come back. More phone
calls back after this in The Dan Patrick Show.

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Speaker 2 (18:00):
Guess Paul in Raleigh, Hey, Paul, what's on your mind today? Hey?

Speaker 7 (18:09):
Dan?

Speaker 2 (18:09):
How are you doing today?

Speaker 7 (18:11):
First time? Long time five seven.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
Hard one for five.

Speaker 7 (18:19):
Had a quick question for y'all.

Speaker 11 (18:21):
I don't know if it's a actual challenge or but
being National Pickleball Day tomorrow. I didn't know who we
may see on the courts this aftern I know Dylan
and Todd are may be on the DL still, but.

Speaker 7 (18:38):
Just I wanted to throw that out there. Love y'all,
love listen to.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
You, Thank you, Paul. Yeah, I don't know. Wait, we're
down a couple of guys, got some pickleball injuries, but
there's enough guys to go around. Seaton's not afraid to
get out there and rough it up a little bit.
Marvin is, well, maybe we'll get somebody out there for
National Pickleball Day. Chase in Oregon, Hi, Chase. What's on
your mind today?

Speaker 14 (19:01):
Hey, good morning Dan, How you doing great?

Speaker 2 (19:03):
What's on your mind?

Speaker 4 (19:05):
Well?

Speaker 14 (19:05):
First of all, I just wanted to apologize. I called
a couple of weeks ago and gave a horrible deon
Sanders impersonation. It was not good. Shout out Buddha, but
I had to. I came up with Jerry Jones, Michael
Parsons and Breaking Bad Comfish.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
You're ready, okay, but no more imitations.

Speaker 14 (19:26):
Oh, I'm going to do one. It's Jerry, but it'll
be quick.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
Okay, all right, here we go. This is Chase in Oregon.

Speaker 14 (19:33):
Well, it kind of reminds me of that episode where Jesse
is getting interrogated by the detectives. Detectives kind of being
Jerry Jones, you know, saying like, well, there's no need
to get a lawyer involved in LIS and cutting out
the middle man is not a good idea. Jesse really
needed Bob odenkirk Saw to come in and say, hey,

(19:56):
you know'll quit harassing my clients. I think I think
Michael Parsons needs the lawyer up.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
Thank you. Chase Alan in Salt Lake City, Hi Alan,
what's on your mind today?

Speaker 17 (20:19):
Well?

Speaker 9 (20:19):
Hey Dan, first time, long time, six three. I mean
it's hard to follow that impression, and I won't be
doing any of those today.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
No, it's not hard to follow that, Allan, It's easy
to follow that because anything's going to sound a lot
better than Chase perfect. All right, no pressure.

Speaker 9 (20:37):
Then, Hey, So I'm a I'm a displaced Michigan sports
fan Lions fan since first. And I got to say,
when that trade happened and he went to the Rams,
kind of more fuel to the Matt Stafford MVP fire
or not Hall of Fame fire. I won't speak for
all Lines fans, but a lot of Lion fans became

(20:58):
Rams fans for that playoff run and we're cheering and
pulling for him to win that Super Bowl with them,
and I don't I mean, I don't see that happening
with a lot of other quarterbacks.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
Yeah, I think he built up a lot of goodwill.
You wanted him to have maybe a swan song where
he got to play in some big playoff games, and
he got that opportunity, and that might be the reason
why he's going into the Pro Football Hall of Fame
when's al said and done. And maybe, I mean, they're
going to be one of the favorites. If he's healthy,
can or get healthier, they're going to be one of

(21:29):
the favorites. In the NFC. We tend to talk about
the Commanders and we talk about the Eagles, and I
get that. I go back to that Rams game. It
just felt like if that game lasted for sixty seconds more,
the Rams were going to win that game. I truly
felt that I thought the momentum was with them. But
we have football coming up. You got three games coming

(21:50):
up tonight. This is the first full week. I wouldn't
overreact to anything. Let's say if Shardore Sanders plays well
on Friday and you go, yeah, he should have been
taken in the first round, or if he doesn't play
well and then you say, yeah, that's why he was
taken in the fifth round. Told you if you want
to stay with those opinions, then stay throughout the entire preseason. There.

(22:15):
You know, you got to make a declaration that he
should have been a first round pick or that's why
he was a fifth round pick. I'm interested to see
and a lot of this is what Ross Tucker talked
about last hour. It's body language. How do the players
respond to you? Are you a leader? Are you vocal?
When you get sacked? Do they help you up? Like

(22:37):
just little things? How quick you're able to process. There's
been stories that have come out about Caleb Williams with
Ben Johnson's offense in Chicago and that delay a game,
kind of having a hard time getting out of the huddle,
get to the line of scrimmage, call the play and
then actually perform. But this is August right now. But Kyle,

(23:00):
in your second year, now, the margin for error, the
room for error is a lot smaller here. And you're
looking at these other quarterbacks that you could have had,
and Caleb Williams has to be a good quarterback this year.
Doesn't have to be great, just has to be good.
He has to be That's why we took you. And

(23:21):
now you got Ben Johnson so we can take away
the excuses of you didn't have a legitimate person with
your offense. Now you got receivers. Roma Dunza is going
to be a star, I think, and Ben Jonson's calling
the plays. There should be a lot of magic, yes, Marvin.

Speaker 6 (23:38):
Yeah, this kind of feels like a CJ. Stroud Brice
Young situation where the second overall pick has a great
rookie year and it's like, man, you really got to
show up because we picked you number one overall, So
this might be do or die. I those a year two,
but Cayla Williams got to show with something because Jane
Davis had a great rookie year.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
Yeah, And sometimes it's who you're drafted with that that's
how you're compared. Hey, are you better than that guy? Yes? Okay,
we got the right guy. And that's not necessarily the
litmus test. Now, if you can compare to Jaden Daniels, okay,
or C. J. Stroud okay, or Jordan Love, but he
should be as good, if not better than those quarterbacks.

(24:19):
I mean, Jaden Daniels played a lot of football, and
I think that there were people who weren't quite sure
what you were getting with Jaden Daniels. Would that style
succeed in the NFL? But he had over sixty starts.
What you saw was who he was. It's just like
bow Knicks when you have over fifty five starts in

(24:40):
your college career, what you see, that's who they are.
And when Sean Payton talks about bo Nix and thinks
he's going to be one of the best quarterbacks in
the NFL, that says a whole lot. You know, in
Shawn's former quarterback Drew Brees will join us on the
program tomorrow. But trying to assess talent in the preseason

(25:01):
is really difficult because let's say, should or Sanders goes
six for eleven, Let's say as a touchdown, maybe you know,
a fumble lost or got sacked two times, whatever. I
just want to see how he does after he sacked
or after a fumble or after an interception. Those are
the kind of things that you want to see because

(25:22):
that's the NFL. You can have highlights, but the NFL
is not about that. It's about what you do on
all the other plays. As the great golfer Payne Stewart
once said to me, we have to play our foul balls. Baseball,
you hit a foul ball, you don't have to worry
about it. Golfers, you got to play your foul balls,

(25:44):
he said. Our games are about our missus. So when
you aren't on target, then what do you do when
you're not playing your best game? What do you do?
What do you do when you're down three touchdown? Like
that's what the NFL is all about, and that's you know.
I'm watching video of Caleb Wait get really frustrated in
training camp with just some drills that are going on.

(26:05):
I still find myself when I watch quarterbacks, I want
to know how quickly are you doing what you do?
There was a montage of Tom Brady calls at the
line of scrimmage and it was on social media, and
I was fascinated by it because you're watching in real
time somebody who's going to change the play and you're

(26:27):
going to score a touchdown. It goes to the line
of scrimmage. I see this, all right, I'm going to
call this. Oh, I saw how you reacted. I'm going
to call this next thing. You know, Julian Edelman in
the corner of the end zone for a touchdown. And
just to be able to do that, Now, that takes time. Rookie,

(26:48):
second year, third year, it's rare when you get that,
but when you do, when you see that, it's fascinating
that that call you whatever it is you saw, you
changed the call and you scored a touchdown on that.
That's playing quarterback, but doing it so you have time

(27:09):
to be able to do that when you get to
the line of scrimmage. I got two plays called, all right,
I'm going to audible out of that. You have to
have maybe another play or you go to a play
with a code word or a signal because you saw something.
That's when you know you've mastered the position.

Speaker 5 (27:28):
Yeah, Pauline, I saw a good chop up on NFL
Network the other day. They were looking at quarterbacks from
last year, third down percentage, third down conversions, third down
quarterback rating. Jayden Daniels was fifth in the NFL on
third down quarterback ratings. Caleb Williams was twenty sixth. Yeah,
and how I don't know who we had on. I
think Steve Young years ago said what you do on

(27:49):
third down decides what your team.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
Does third down red zones very important because then that's
a touchdown or a field goal. Yeah, Marvin, Yeah.

Speaker 6 (27:59):
One of my favorite things in the NFL is watching
the chess match between the quarterback and the middle linebacker.
Who's got to call the defenses when somebody says kill
kill kill, and they start doing all these dummy you know,
quotes or whatever, and it's like, no stay here, no
move back, no where they're playing to run and it
is like there's a clip of Ray Lewis and Peyton
Manning his YouTube, ray Lewis and Peyton Manning talking about

(28:21):
like a third down call where Dallas Clark gets a
catch on it, and you see ray Lewis is like,
it's fifteen years later, I'm still stewing over him getting
this catch.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
A lot of times you're looking at that free safety
because we really don't focus on the middle linebacker anymore,
but you might be looking at the free safety and
he's he's looking at you. Ed Reid was a master.
Ed Reid, Oh my goodness, one of the smartest football
players I ever saw. And there is a highlight where
he is baiting Peyton manning. It was somebody was showing

(28:57):
this the other day. And he takes all off on
the snap and he's only taking off to run in
this direction, so Peyton doesn't think. He thinks this left
side is going to be open, and Ed Reid takes
off the other way and then he comes back and
makes the interception. Those are just guys who played differently

(29:20):
and we you know, we always we credit the quarterback,
but there are some defense Zach Thomas was one of
the smartest. Peyton talked about he can never outsmart him,
Dolphins linebacker. He can never go to line of scrimmage
call out a play and then Zach would say it's
going to be a run left left from left right here,

(29:42):
and then Peyton would go, damn, he's right, and then
you change the play. Then he would yell out, watch
for the screen, watch for a screen, and Peyton would
know that he figured it out, and not many people
figured out Peyton Manning. Let me see Eric and Tucson. Hi, Eric,
what's on your mind today?

Speaker 17 (30:01):
Good morning?

Speaker 4 (30:01):
And Dan?

Speaker 17 (30:01):
Good morning, gentlemen. I just wanted to talk about the
Hall of Fame game real quick and just maybe a
different seconds of the recency bias sits there.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
Yep.

Speaker 17 (30:11):
What if you say each of their career and you
go on reverse, So Ruffle starts and Pittsburgh goes to dinner,
Denver finishes in Seattle, that would start in La goes
as Troy, and you compare the numbers, but the career
art are the opt of what they be. They are.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
It's a great point, Eric, and you're right if you
did it in reverse. Stafford he won early, but then
look what happened to his career, whereas Russ Uh. You know,
if we started with the giants in Denver and Van
he struggled and then all of a sudden, look at
what he did at the end of his career, he

(30:50):
won a Super Bowl. Yeah, the whole whole different way
of looking at at quarterbacks. And that might be the
analogy if I'm a voter of let me look at
it that way. To be fair to somebody, you know,
the totality of somebody's career, because there will be recency
bias with Matthew Stafford, and there will be a anti

(31:11):
bias towards Russ you know, as far as positives, it'll
be about you know, and we see what happened. Got
out of Seattle, had that defense, you know, his salary,
they were able to keep all their great players. And
then all of a sudden he made too much money
and got out of Seattle. And then the you know,
terrible deal that Denver paid him and gave up for him.

(31:32):
And now Pittsburgh and now you got the Giants. Yeah, Pauling.

Speaker 5 (31:36):
If you go back to Kurt Warner, all his early
success with Saint Louis, if he doesn't have a rebirth
with Arizona and get them to the precipice of a
super Bowl with a shaky franchise, he might be a
great story of the non Hall of Famer.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
He came on this show and he said to me,
what do you think I need to do to get
into the Hall of Fame? And I said, if you
take Arizona to the super Bowl. Fast forward to Steelers
Cardinals and they lost that in dramatic fashion. And I
remember walking over to Kurt Warner and you know, obviously

(32:14):
he's down in the dumps. They lost this game. Roethlisberger incredible,
and I remember walking over to Kurt Warner. Then he's
in the bowels of the stadium there and they're doing
interviews and guys are you know, walking out? And I
walked up and I said, you're gonna make the Hall
of Fame. And he looked over, he goes thanks, like

(32:35):
he was so down in the dumps with it. He
got to the super Bowl, they lose, and I just
remember saying, you're going to get in the Super Bowl
or you're going to get in the Hall of Fame. Yeah, Marv, Yeah.

Speaker 6 (32:44):
I think Kurt Warner winning with the Rams, who were
always terrible at least for my entire childhood, and getting
to the super Bowl with the Cardinals. I think Jared
Golf if he gets the Lions to the super Bowl
and they win, he gets to the Hall of Fame
before Matthew Stafford.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
You know, only said that last year. If the Lions
go to the super Bowl with Jared Goff, if they
win the super Bowl, I think winning he's been to
the Super Bowl. If you get to the Super Bowl,
two different franchises, four time Pro bowler, you win a
Super Bowl. Yeah, yeah, probably yeh boy, you have a great,

(33:22):
great campaign there, yeah, Paul.

Speaker 5 (33:24):
Jared Goff's thirty four Pro Bowls, two hundred and twenty
two touchdowns and only ninety four picks. He's got really
nice stats.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
But you just said that those numbers, and Russ had
three hundred and fifty touchdowns in one hundred and eleven interceptions.
Jared Golf is not very far behind the total that
RUSS has. And Russ has three hundred and fifty touchdown passes.
That ratio, I mean, that's right there with Aaron Rodgers

(33:52):
ratio of greatest of all time. All right, take a break,
Last call for phone calls? What we learn? What's in
store tomorrow? After this?

Speaker 1 (34:00):
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listen live. Last call for phone calls? What we learn?

Speaker 2 (34:14):
What's in store tomorrow? Drew Brees will stop by. We'll
shoot the breeze tomorrow, right.

Speaker 4 (34:19):
Todd, we will exactly do that to Breez.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
Thank you, Thank you. A bloop would have been fine.
You haven't given me many bloops. Why is that?

Speaker 4 (34:29):
I've been holding out on you a little bit? But
why I don't know. It's Bill because I know you
can do better.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
Really, yeah, you could always do better. I don't know.

Speaker 5 (34:38):
But if you could always do better, then you can't
wait on it.

Speaker 4 (34:41):
I just I know a bloop when I hear it. Okay,
it wasn't one of those times.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
Appreciate your honesty. How about this day in sports history Paul.

Speaker 5 (34:52):
Nineteen oh seven. Walter Johnson of the Senators nineteen oh
seven won his first major league game.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
He was the Big Train, Walder, the big train Johnson,
I believe, Okay.

Speaker 5 (35:02):
In his major league debut, Joe Keel of the A's
had a home run in his first ever at bat
on his first pitch. That's gonna be pretty rare and
one of the greatest our favorites. Nineteen ninety nine, Tony
Gwynn of the Padres got hit number three thousand.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
But was it on the same day that Wade Boggs
got his three thousand hitch? I don't have it here,
I thought.

Speaker 5 (35:23):
I think I remember the Sports Center I.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
Thought Tony got his hit yesterday or the day before,
because Wade Boggs is the first player in baseball history
to hit a home run for his three thousandth career hit.
But I don't think Tony did it on this day.
I could be wrong.

Speaker 5 (35:43):
As a journalist, you were right then. It was on
the sixth.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
Okay, this dand sports history in error. Oh, it's good
to be back in the journalism department, he j club.
Yes a journalist. Yeah, yeah, I got kicked out earlier.
Let me kick that a few times. Scold, yeah I did.
Guy verbally spanked, You're no journalist. Okay. Ryan in Montana, Hi, Ryan,

(36:10):
what's on your mind today?

Speaker 12 (36:12):
Hey Dan, how's it going great?

Speaker 13 (36:14):
Ryan Goode?

Speaker 12 (36:16):
Thanks for thanks for taking my call. Five six soft
one seventy five. Yeah, quick. Shout out to Marvin as
a fellow Niner fan. We got to stick together.

Speaker 7 (36:28):
So let's go.

Speaker 12 (36:28):
Marv Bang Bang Niner Gang.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
Let's go.

Speaker 12 (36:31):
I also, I also think it's hilarious when anybody ever
refers to him as.

Speaker 14 (36:35):
A DEI hire. That cracks me up every time.

Speaker 12 (36:37):
I actually think that would make a good T shirt idea,
something about Marvin being the best Dee I hire ever,
but I think you hit a home run with Marvin
Man taking over for Mick Love and he does a
great job. Also, real quick, want to give you your
flowers for a happy Gilmore. You were you were awesome.
The movie was hilarious. It's not very often I think
that a sequel lives up to the original, but I
think it did in this case. And I had a

(36:58):
question real quick about Adam c. You were talking last
week about how he was he was going to play
the garden here coming up quick with his stand up,
how he plays the guitar and sing songs and stuff,
and I was just wondering, I know you've dipped your
toe in the comedian pool with Will Ferrell doing the
stat of the Day song. Have you ever asked the
fan man about doing his version at stat of the
Day because I think that could be absolute gold. So

(37:20):
thanks a lot, guys, have a great day.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
Okay. I'm still working on Steven Wilson Junior, the country artist,
to give us a stat of the Day. I did
reach out to his manager two days ago and I said, hey,
I want to see Stephen Wilson on tour. He said, yeah,
you got it. I said, I'd also like to get
the stat of the Day that we asked for a

(37:43):
year ago. And he goes, oh, you're right, he's been
busy touring and doing his album. I said, it's only
going to take him two minutes to do stat of
the Day. Yeah, I mean, can we think of me
in the waning years of my journalistic career? That would
be nice. Did he bring up anything else I needed

(38:06):
to come in on a happy gillmore?

Speaker 10 (38:08):
Yes?

Speaker 9 (38:08):
Ton?

Speaker 3 (38:08):
What is Big Bang Niner Gang? Could I have heard
of that? I've never heard of that before. I apologize
if that's a common forty nine or chance.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
It's Bang Bang Niner Gang, thank you very much. I
thought he said Big Bang Niner Gang. So it's Bang
Bang Niner Gang, Yes, sir, and that means what it's
just a chance. And it was a song by a
gentleman by the name of E forty. Yeah forty okay,
he's a Niner fan. Also, Yes, Todd, I think Jim
Parson's played in.

Speaker 4 (38:34):
The Big Bang Niner Gang. I'm not sure.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
Okay, I get it. You're not going to get a bloop, yeah, Paul.

Speaker 5 (38:40):
I'm looking at the lyrics from this opus Bang Bang
Niner Gang.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
Some of the.

Speaker 5 (38:43):
Player's reference Dway Clark, rice lot of course, and Martin
Hank's name.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
Is Merton Hanks number thirty six.

Speaker 5 (38:51):
Yeah, Martin Hanks makes a cut.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
Always felt like he had a real long neck. Merton Hank,
you would do that dancing? Yeah, yeah, Merton Hanks. He
was the thing there for a little while. Uh. Preston
in Oregon, Hi, Preston, what's on your mind today?

Speaker 4 (39:07):
Dan?

Speaker 18 (39:07):
Thanks for taking my call. I've got a stat of
the day for you. Eugene, Oregon native Justin Herbert is
the only quarterback in the last twenty five years to
score touchdowns on both his first career collegiate and first
career NFL pass attempts and have both of them called
back due to penalties. That was twenty sixteen against the

(39:28):
despised Washington Huskies and twenty twenty against the despised Kansas
City Chiefs.

Speaker 19 (39:33):
Stana the J start of the Jay. We love your
Stata Day, Stanta the J Stanta the Jay. Oh damn,
give us that stand of the day, Stanta the Day Pandora.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
That's just magic, is what that is.

Speaker 11 (39:55):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (39:56):
You hear that voice and I just fall into a dream.
Like stance. Oh, Dan, give us your best. Oh no,
I fall into a trance. It's a dream like trance,
not stance. Yeah, I'm going to give her my best. No,
on the show, I'm going to give her my best. Yes, Tom,

(40:18):
you can.

Speaker 4 (40:18):
Get it to a dream like stance, but you'll probably
fall over.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
Because that is true. Thank you, Tom, Thank you. You
don't get a bloop on that either.

Speaker 4 (40:26):
Okay, that's okay.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
How about we go around the room. What we learned
on the program? I'll start with you, Todd.

Speaker 3 (40:32):
Ross Tucker had a very bad first experience with smelling salts.

Speaker 4 (40:34):
Then he was too afraid to ever really use them
ever again.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
See no O'Connor. What'd you learn today? Just move on? Yes,
move on? Moment yesterday called out verbally spanked by somebody
at the mother ship. You just move on. That's what journalists,
That's what journalists do. Just move on, Marvin. Wouldn't you
learn Ross Tucker doesn't need smelling salt? No, he does not.

(40:58):
He is very, very alive. Paul, what did you learn?

Speaker 5 (41:01):
Love a good journalism beef?

Speaker 2 (41:03):
Yeah, Todd? What did I learn.

Speaker 4 (41:05):
After this performance yesterday? DraftKings on show?

Speaker 3 (41:07):
Here Tony's MVP I was dropping from a negative four
to fifty to minus one thousand.

Speaker 2 (41:11):
A lot of fun today. I hope you were entertained.
Drew Brees tomorrow on a meet Friday for Fritzie Seat
and Marv Paula yours truly, We'll talk to you then
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