November 8, 2024 • 56 mins
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Eddie and Edwin pull back the veil as we learn what men really do for self care!
Waxing? Yes. Dying your hair, duh! Shaving your legs? Why not?! They’re just like us!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is The EDS with Eddie Judge and Edwin Aroyavi
the Husbands Know Best two Teas production. All right, we
are back for episode fourteen with the EDS podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Here.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
This is going to be an episode with a topic
which men don't talk about often, and that is self
care and beauty. It's sort of like the secrets behind
the mirror for guys. You know, from routines to cosmetic procedures,
regimens and fashion. We know women do it all the
time and are real critical about what they look like
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and feel like and where. But what about us men?
You know, how do we handle beauty and self care
in this day and age. Let's get into it. What
do you think? How do we do it? Well?
Speaker 2 (00:52):
I can tell you I think for me, I used
to care about it when I was younger, Like it
felt like fashion was a little more more important, like
twenty years ago. Like now I just feel it's like
everybody's wearing T shirts and stuff and h just T
shirts and jeans, and it's so much easier to get
dressed now, right whereas before, like you had to dress
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up a little more like now, you know, just with
the whole athletic wear and everything. Yeah, it feels like
you don't have to dress up as much. And I
think a part of that is maybe that a lot
of people are working from home and stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Right, Yeah, do you remember during the tech rise that
all these tech companies started wearing short of I mean
they do it now, they wear pajamas, but they were
wearing short of pajamas to work and you didn't have
to wear a suit anymore. And I was in a
professional space at that time in the law firm, and
I was proud to wear a suit to work. It
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made me feel really good and important. But it was
weird to see all these professional tech guys walking in
their jeans and T shirts and you know, loafers to
go to work.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
But yeah, definitely, I think feeling good is important, that
is for sure. So whatever makes you feel good, I
think it is important. So you like, sometimes even where
I'm gonna work from home, I'll get dressed up as
if I'm going to work, so I could just feel
like I'm at work right versus just being in like
shorts and sandals, and it just mentally gets me in
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the right mindset.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
I agree, one hundred percent. Before we get any further,
I want to know because Here's what I know about you, Edwin.
You do take care of yourself. You do exercise, you
do eat healthy, and you are about good mental health
and good emotional health. And you really are doing a
lot of self care.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Right.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
I've also learned that you really dress well. You know,
there's certain labels that you wear. I guess a lot
of hair stuff products and skin care products and all that.
When did that self consciousness of looking good and taking
care of myself start for you? Do you remember?
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Yeah? I think after high school, like I want to
just work out. I wanted to look good, I think
fitness wise. At first, I think it was more for
vanity reasons. Is for women. I wanted to I wanted
women to be attracted to me. So I figured, okay,
well let's work out, right. I think now it's more
it brings me. It just relaxes me, like it's part
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of my mental health. Like I run because it helps
me with anxiety. It helps me with you know, taking
on things during the day that could be stressful. You know.
I get that runners high after when I run. So
now it's more for it keeps me, you know, sane,
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And I think, yeah, like I think at the beginning
with with even with fashion, it was it was always
for women.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Right.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
As you get older, you know, not not as much, right,
but you know, I still like to I still like
to feel like like like, I still like to feel good, right,
But yeah, I mean I think, I mean, yeah, what
about what about you? What's the insecurity that you have
maybe of something looks wise, I guess, or beauty.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Well, I'm I'm you know, in my fifties, I'm becoming
that old guy living care.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
I can't even believe you said fifty.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Yeah, it's fifty one years old and good for that age.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Physically, thank you. Physically, I feel like I've done pretty
good throughout my entire life of self care. Emotionally I've
done pretty well as well. And confidence wise, you know
I did. We do these things because we want to
build our confidence since we were young. The very first
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time I remember considering my self care distinctively was when
I went transitioned from seventh grade to eighth grade. In
seventh grade, I was just a nerdy, you know, playful
kind of kid, just running around playing with dogs, playing
with people. Didn't care what I wore, didn't care about
how I looked, and nothing the minute I went into
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eighth grade, I started changing the hair, having a hairstyle,
changing the way I looked. In fact, I remember for
my eighth grade graduation, I wore a white Miami Vice
suit for my graduation because I thought I was cool
and I had this big, old quoth you know, hairstyle
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to the side. And that was the beginning of my
self care and self consciousness of I got to look good,
you know, because otherwise girls aren't going to like me. Yeah,
And naturally that's when it started for me, and I
started getting a lot of attention. And I think sports
in high school was what gave me the confidence for
self awareness, like I'm fit, I'm fast, I'm you know,
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in control of what I'm physically doing to myself. And
it wasn't until I graduated high school that I started
doing weightlifting, and leading up to that, you know, it
was trying to figure out what kind of hairstyle I want,
what kind of outfits I want, what kind of car
I want to drive, what you know, persona I want
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to build. So my point is is it evolved tremendously
from when I first started taking care of myself too.
Like you said, Vanity, purposes. I lifted weight to vanity purpose,
but also for confidence.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
You know.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
I was a skinny little guy, fast runner because I
had some really strong legs and absolutely no upper body muscle.
And when I gained that and had the muscle, had
the confidence, it changed everything. And people naturally respect you
because you're fit, because you you're fast, you know whatever,
you know, physical activity you're doing, and it just helped
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me realize I might be doing something right here, you know,
and I just kept doing it. I just that's what
kept me in the fitness industry and the fitness world
all my life. I've always had a fitness class or
one foot in the fitness industry while I was doing
you know, all this business entrepreneur business building companies and
stuff like that. So it was just always a part
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of me, and I think it was the biggest part
of me because that's where I got most of my
self confidence growing up in sports, as you know, you
have that competitiveness in you, and when you don't have
that after high school, you kind of have a void
that you have to fill. So the way I filled it,
you know, was racing bicycles or you know, doing you know,
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I don't know mostly racing bicycles was my thing until
I discovered Spartan in my older age. But I always
wanted to have some sort of competitiveness in my life
because it it That's how I thrived, that's how I
felt good about myself. Never really got into bodybuilding company
Tissies because when I found out the way that they
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get to those big muscles is you got to take steroids.
And because I was afraid of needles, I said, nah,
I don't want to go that route. And there's a
lot of negativity, not negativity, but side effects. Talks about
taking steroids like you know that. You know, some kids
say shit like, oh, your penis gets smaller. I don't
want a small penis, ne do I? But you know,
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stuff like that was said. But the real reason was
I was afraid of needles. I want to put a
needle in me.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
You know what's interesting about confidence. I remember being eighteen
nineteen and even during high school, like I had before
I went out, I had to get a haircut and
it had to be like a zero, right, so like
a buzz and if I was clean shaven, and I
would wear these jeans and a white collared shirt. Never failed.
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I would always pick up on chicks if I had
that outfit, right, but I had to have the haircut.
And if I didn't have the haircut, let's just say
I couldn't make it. I'd have like the worst luck
that night, like no action whatsoever. And as I think
back at as I think back on it, it was
all confidence. Like I didn't look that much different just
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because I gave myself a buzz a zero cut on
the sides. But in my head, that's what was going
to make me successful that night. So there is something
to say about confidence and what it can do for
you and how much I guess women just want a
confident Matt at the end of the day.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Well, interestingly enough, I think it's your surroundings that influenced
your desire to do self care. And, for lack of
better description, beauty, you know it just beauty and guys
just don't go together. For me. It's just don't call
me beautiful, handsome. I'll take hands them all they but
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don't call me pretty or beautiful. Just doesn't make sense.
But let's say I lived on a farm, and I
grew up on a farm. The last thing going to
think about is waxing my eyebrows, or wax in my
nose or even shaving my face. You know, I'm going
to be shoveling cowshit everywhere. Why would I want to
get all, you know, clean shaven and deorderized and hair
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style to go shovel shit? Right? So, I think it's
your surroundings growing up in Orange County. My understanding of
Orange Counties, Florida. They're the mecca of fitness. Southern California
is the mecca of fitness and beauty, and the majority
of the people here exercise mostly for vanity. But I
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think it's shifting into more for longevity and good health.
But I think if I didn't live in Orange County,
I really wouldn't worry about waxing my eyebrows, because that's
one thing I used to do a lot, and I
just went recently because I started looking like a Neanderthal.
So I will wax my eyebrows. I do like waxing
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my nose hairs because I just don't, you know, I
don't like having a big old bullshel in my nose.
And again, some of the things I just take.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
And Teddy hates it because I'll literally just go like
this and pull it out and she hates it. She
hates when I do that.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
That's when you know you need to go get a wax.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Right now, when you know you got to go get
a wax.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
And then more recently, I started noticing, and I don't
know if it's just because of my self consciousness when
I you know, I have been waxing my ears as well.
I started noticing hair growing in my ears. And and
it happens as you get older, right, yes, the same ship.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Now. I didn't have hair coming out of my ears before,
but now in my age, I'm starting to see like
hair coming out of places that I I wasn't expecting
hair to be coming out of.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Yeah, and I have you know, some of my dirt
bike friends that you know, they don't care about, you know,
their love. You know, it's a whole different group of
guys that I hang out with, and they got a
big old bushel in their ear. And I'm like, oh,
should I tell them? Should I not say anything? You know,
but it's to each and their own.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
You know.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
I could justify it and say I pull my hairs
in my nose because I want to breathe better. I
pull the hairs in my ears because I want to
hear better. Well, why do you watch your eyebrows because
I want to look better? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
By the way, when I was thirty, I had a
friend of mine that was like, why don't you shave
your legs? Like, because you know, he's like, you got
hairy legs. Why don't you to your environment right? And
he's like, you gotta shave your legs right. So, like
a dumb ass, I was like, Okay, maybe I should
shave my legs, but I don't want to shave. Let's
just get it out of the way and go get laser.
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Holy shit, I've never gone through something more painful in
my life like that shit was so painful. And then
of course I have to tell Teddy why I did that,
And I made up the stink because I was cycling
at the time. That apparently when you when you're swimmer
or cyclists, you have to shave your legs because you
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get faster. I guess you do. That's so that's what
I went with, But that wasn't really the reason I
did it. I wanted my legs supposedly to look good,
but man, that shit was so painful. I went to
three treatments. I was out, and then the hair grew
back to top it off, like I still have my
hairy legs. I thought I would go away forever, which
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is why I went through it. But holy shit, that
was painful.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
A beauty is painful, bro. And I've only heard about
getting your legs electrolysis. I think it's called where they
zap your hair. I heard how painful that is, and
I would never do it. I wouldn't even do wax
on my legs. When I first started shaving my legs,
it was for the same exact reason. It was for
cycling purposes. Everybody talked about it like like you said,
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and I struggled with it in this because I'm like,
that's not a manly thing to do, shaving your legs,
you know. So I made myself a promise, and I
was racing road bikes at the time. I said, if
I can win three races in my in my category,
I will shave my legs. Sure Enough, I won three
races in a row and I had to go and
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shave my legs and it was really hard. It was
really hard the very first time. I just had to
get past that you actually shaved no I shaved, I
got the shaving cream and the and the razor, and
afterwards I got to be honest, I loved the way
my legs felt. They were so smooth and so like
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comfortable and and you know, it didn't feel terrible. So
I was hooked and I kept shaving him as long
as I rode and until recently because I haven't When
I started racing Spartan, I stopped cycling and racing road bikes,
so I had no reason to shave my legs. And
I'm not a hairy guy generally. I think part of
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somebody has said before that it's because you're a part Indian.
I don't have a lot of hair. But I still
prefer to shave my legs and I just have to
have a reason for it. And recently I told myself,
if you can ride, get back on the bike and
start riding again, then you can shave your legs. So
it's just one of those things like you gotta have
a reason.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Right, Is sex a reason to shave?
Speaker 1 (15:22):
No? No, I mean the private parts. Yes, I do
keep my private parts clean.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
I feel like it looks bigger when it's clean, right.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Yes, I think so, I you know, I frequently talked
about that, what do you think? And the only reason
I don't shave my face is because for years I
used to shave my face to go to work, and
I hated it, and sometimes i'd get, you know, the
bumps on my face and it just sucked. And it
wasn't until I left the professional legal world that I said,
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you know, I'm not sure even anymore. Plus, my wife
likes the hair on my face, so and now I
just trim it and keep it clean. But even then,
you know, sometimes I forget and I go two months
without even looking at it, and I have this big
old beard and hair coming out of my nose, hair
coming to my ears, and my hair's all over the place.
And it's not pretty nowadays because when my hair grows long,
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it shows the gray. It's like whoa. But honestly, I
would never color my hair. I know there's some guys,
would you color your hair?
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Yeah? Color I dye my hair. Yes, I've actually been
dying it probably forty one. I'm pretty gray. Yeah. I
can't get used to the gray hair, though I've tried,
like I've done the gray thing for a while, and
I don't. I can't get used to it.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
I mean, like my wife says, I love you with
gray hair, I'm just not there yet. It's gotta yeah,
it's it's got to happen. I don't feel it yet now,
like my beard when it's all white, if I let
it grow, it's all white, I don't mind. I like
my white dud. My gray hair, yeah, not with it
just yet. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
I was afraid to start doing my hair when I
started getting gray because I didn't want to maintain it.
You know, it's because it's one of those things once
you start and you're fighting eight for example, and next
thing you know, you're six years old and you're still
coloring your hair, and it just doesn't make sense because
even over sixty, your skin looks aged and your hair
looks twenty. You know, it just doesn't it make sense.
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Another thing also is actors I've admired, like some actors
that have that sophisticated uh you know, I think they
call it fox gray fox hair or something like that.
Gray fox.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
So I've seen some afrofs that I look up to silverfox, yeah,
and they look good and then you know, they portrayed
really well and mature and sophisticated and wise, and you know,
I'm okay with being that guy. Now, I'll be the
wise guy, I'll be sophisticated, I'll be you know, I'm
okay with the gray hair now because there's nothing I
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can do about it.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Yeah, my kids don't like the gray hair. Whenever I'm great, dad,
can you get rid of the grays? Teddy loves it,
not the kids. You know what I just realized. I'm
gonna tell you a fun story that I just remembered
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so and it's funny because it's happened to me twice
in my life where I was excited about, like an
event where I was gonna go take pictures. Okay, the
first one was my prom, right, I was. I was
in the royal court and you know, going for prom
king and all that, and I went out of my
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way to feel good and look good.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Right.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
So my buddy at the time, at the time, there
was this whole thing of guys kind of doing their
eyebrows and they called it pretty boys and stuff, and
like women just liked it like it was a weird time. Yeah.
So my buddy had like these great eyebrows that were
sort of arched, and I said to him, hey, can
you do eyebrows like yours like? And he's like, sure,
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it is one of my best friends. Well, this dude
does them, and by the time he's done with them,
I look like a drag queen. My eyebrows they're so thin.
I got to show you a picture. Next time I
see you, I send it to you. They're like the
thinnest eyebrows you could have seen. So you see me
in the Royal Court, and what was supposed to be
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a picture that I'd always remember forever is like the
one of the worst pictures I've ever taken. And I
look like a drag queen, right, And then it happens
to me twenty five years later or twenty some years
later whatever. It was at our premiere for Real Housewives
Beverly Hills, the first year we came out.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
So that happened.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Well, I'm like, man, coming out, it's carpet, I'm gonna
look good. And I straightened my hair because I wanted
my hair to look a certain way, which I but
it was so straight it looked just whacked.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Oh wow.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
But then I got a facial and I did something
else to my face, like right next to it, like
you know, like it was a facial and like one
of those zap things. Anyways, all I know, yeah, is
my face was like a it was reddish and it
was it felt like as if it felt dry as
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could be. Like I think I've never felt my face
more dry in my life. Yeah. Anyway, I do the
Red Carpet and it's like the worst picture that I've
ever taken in my life, even worse than the problem
when I had and I still hate when I go
and google my name. It's still one of the pictures
that comes out. Yeah, and now I'm stuck for that
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just for batity reasons because I wanted to come out
good in a magazine at the times, I figured it
was probably going to come out on somewhere, so I
wanted to look good, like, hey, premiere, this is the
new husband and worst picture take ever. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
So anyway, so let me let me talk about this
next because I think it's it's important to decipher there's
two ways that we get ready. I think one is
getting up in the morning a regular routine and we
go on our day, and then there's days where we
have an event to get ready for a red carpet event,
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like you just said, right, so I want to know
a little bit about your routine when you get up
in the morning. And this is un like you. I
like to work out in the morning. So I get
up and I have my coffee, and I go to
the gym and I get that done. And then if
I I'm ready for my day, I'll take a shower.
And if i'm whether I'm working at home or i'm
you know, running around with meetings, I'll do my hair
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and all that stuff. So let's talk a little bit
about our daily routines and then the difference between our
daily routines and our red carpet routines. Okay, so in
the morning, I get up, I brush my teeth. That's
probably the first thing I like to do in the morning. Well,
the one thing I have to go to do in
the morning is go to the bathroom. Then I'll brush
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my teeth, and then I'll go downstairs and then I'll
have a bottle of water, and then then I'll make
my coffee. Depending on my mood, it's either a double
espresso or a cappuccino, right, and I'll just take my time.
I love to read in the morning, and so I
spend about twenty minutes reading and then I get ready,
feed my dog, go to the gym, come back, and
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then I'm ready to go. And my regular routine really
is I mean, I wear a hat most of the
time because two reasons. One it's super easy, so let's
call it lazy, and the other is because it's the
way to market my brand. I truly believe when you
have a company, you market it any way. You can't
whether it's a T shirt, hat, car billboards, however, you
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just you got to be a walking billboard because that's
just the.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Way it is, right.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
So I find myself wearing a hat most of the time.
And even though I'll get a haircut, lately, it's been
every other month, so I wait till I start looking
like a chevaka and I'm like, can you get me in?
So they cut it short and then you know, it's
good for about three weeks and then it just goes
the hey to hell from there. But that's really my routine.
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I shower, I brush my teeth, I put some lotion
on my skin because I've always done that most of
my life, and that's it. If I do fix my hair,
it's like literally two minutes. And I do use a
blow dryer sometimes depending on how long my hair is.
And that's about it. That's all I do for you know,
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beauty stuff. And then, of course, because I wear tank
tops and not tank toss but T shirts and T
shirts most of my day and I'm in tennis shoes
most of my day, I try to wear branded you
know clothes, and I get a hard time for my
wife and production like, do you wear anything else? Nope,
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That's all I wear. So it's it's been fortunate to
get to this point. But I used to wear a
suit to work every day, and I would wear I
would go to the me too, you do. I like
to wear suits when we go to red carpet events
because that's really pretty much the only time I get
to wear them anymore. I have no reason to wear
you know suits really anymore. But I do feel good.
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I do feel good in having to dress up like that.
So tell me about your daily routine and then we'll
talk about, you know, our red carpet routine.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
As as soon as I wake up, I thank God
for my health and I thank God for just another
day of life, and then I drink some water. I
usually like to keep two glasses of water there, and
it's like to down at least the first one, right,
I can't tell you, like hydration is so important for energy, right,
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So for me it's like just the first hour is
so important to me, right, it's so hydrated. I have
a Bible app that I read. I like to read
at least one little chapter a day. I do a
little then I go and brush my teeth, and as
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I'm brushing my teeth, I do a little gratitude exercise
that I like to do, which I think I've talked
about it here before. Where what am I happy about?
What am I excited about? What am I proud of?
What am I grateful for? What am I enjoying? What
am I committed to? And what do I love? And
the sub question to that is what about it makes
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me feel this way? And I do that typically as
I'm brushing my teeth, and that kind of gets me
just in a you know, gratitude is just I think,
so important, right.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
It.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
I think gratitude and forgiveness are sort of inseparable, right,
And then from there I go down and get my shake.
So usually I like to do a six thirty class,
like a hit class or a hot yoga class. But
that's kind of my routine in the morning and then
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at night time. I love my sleep. I try to
get six hours minimum, but in a perfect world seven
is like ideal. But in order I noticed that in
order to get that sleep, I gotta wake I gotta
go to bed. Try to start going to bed around
nine thirty, because if I stay up till like eleven,
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it messes up my entire sleep. Like I'm up at eight,
it'll take me Like if I try to go down
by eleven, I won't go to bed till twelve, and
then I'm up all night and then I'll wake up
at five. So it messages up the routine. But if
I can go to sleep early, like at nine point thirty,
I'll sleep the entire night and I'll wake up at five.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
I almost feel like maybe it's because we're getting older.
But what's that movie called Benjamin Button. Yeah, I feel
like now that I'm getting old, I feel like I'm
a kid again. Remember when like your kids, right, Yeah,
the earlier you put them to bed, the longer they sleep. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Right.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
So that's like one of the things that Teddy's always
done a great job with our kids is she gets
some trained to go to like our youngest. Right, she'll
go to sleep at seven, she'll wake up at eight, nice,
and she'll still take a nap from twelve to three,
twelve to four, So she sleeps a ton, right, It's
probably why she's so tall. But if we were to
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put her to bed at twelve, she'd still wake up
at eight. Yeah, it's not like, oh, I'm up at twelve.
I stayed up till twelve, so I'm gonna wake up
at ten.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
No.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
She still wakes up around the same time no matter what.
So I'm kind of the same way now, like if
I stay up late. That that's why I hardly like
going out anymore. That's why my dinner again, I'm like
an old man now, like dinner. You want to have dinner?
I had five thirty six.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Yep, I'm right there with you.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
But it gives me time to digest my food. Right, Yeah,
I sleep better, and yeah, it's it's it's hard to
get me to go out at night anymore, just because
it messes up my sleep so much.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Yeah, I get it now too, Like why older people
when I was young, you know, like why are you
going to bed starting?
Speaker 2 (28:41):
How?
Speaker 1 (28:41):
What a boring life. And the reality is I'd rather
have a boring, healthy life than feel exhausted, drained, and
you know, sick because I'm going out all the time,
eating out all the time, drinking all the time. I
just do not desire that at all. Yeah, So tell
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me about some of the products you use in the
morning to start your day. Do you use a face cream?
Do you use any anything for the bags under your eyes?
Do you wax your eyebrows or nose or ears?
Speaker 2 (29:21):
So?
Speaker 1 (29:21):
What do you use for a hair stuff?
Speaker 2 (29:23):
The dyes, the odd the eyes. I don't do is
good of a job with on the cream. I do
like putting creams every morning. In fact, I probably need
a lesser expensive brand. I use this brand called Lamurr
all right. I brought it just in case I think
expensive though. I need to find me maybe or maybe
(29:45):
they could sponsor me. But do you like it? I
love it? It's just freaking pricing. Yeah, I still use
good old Murray's. Have you ever heard of Morays? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Yeah, that's great. Yeah, yeah, probably three bucks all over
your body. It clears up dry skin like no other.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
So yeah, well I don't think it's the same one
More's is like the it's an orange can.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Oh no, I was thinking about the white bottle. Okay.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
It's for people that have really thick care.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
I have really big care okay, and what you put
on your hair. Yeah, oh okay.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
So it's like a palmade right. So that's one product
that will spend a lot of money. And in fact,
that's that's the same product I used to use in
high school. Okay, I still use it nowt here twenty
you know, twenty five thirty years later. Yeah, and it's
just my favorite. So you know who also uses that product?
My father in law.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Oh okay, is he the one that turned you onto it? No?
Speaker 2 (30:44):
I'd been using it since I was like sixteen fifteen.
So when I was at his house and saw it,
I was like, oh shit, we used the same product.
That's pretty cool because it's so inexpensive.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
You know, that's awesome. Cool, So you got hair hair products.
I do use a palmad in my hair. I've used
it for many, many, many, mini many years. And I
discovered it at a salon that I used to go
to four men only it was what was it called?
I forgot what it was called, but it was awesome
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because you walk into the salon, they offer you either
coffee or a glass of cocktail or something right, and
then they can do your haircut. They can do your
ear wax, your your nose wax, your eyebrow wax, everything
that you can do to a guy. Even at some
point they were doing butt waxes, like they were offering
(31:32):
to wax your butt. But it was all I think
they offered facials and stuff like that. It was just
to pamper men, and I enjoyed it. I didn't go,
you know, any further than just waxing my face and
getting a haircut.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
You mean you didn't do a butt wax.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
I did not. I contemplated it, you know, because I
do have a hairy but I don't know why, but
I definitely thought about it, you know, but I just
didn't want to show my buttholes to anybody. I don't
even show it to my wife. But yeah, that was
my first experience. That's when I discovered palmate, and I've
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been using it ever since. And nowadays. You know, if
I'm not getting ready for a red carpet event and
i have to get ready to go out, you can
ask my wellife if it takes me less than five minutes.
Even the shower, Like I wait the last minute, jump
in a shower real quick, and I'm ready to go
in five minutes.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
The hat is so easy, too write, when you just
wear a hat and boom go.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Yeah. Yeah. If I could wear a hat everywhere, my
life would be so much easier.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
What about your routine when you're going to go on
a red carpet event or an event where everybody's decked out,
let's say a gala, you know, Okay, what's your routine?
Speaker 2 (32:47):
So if I want to have like a good hair day,
which I'm not having today, I typically well take a
shower about three hours prior. Okay, I'll wear like a
beanie or like a do rag, right, and then I'll
literally wait till the hair gets dry. Right, but it's
like three hours. I'll just I'll either have a hat
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or this when I'll take it out and it's all
straight right, and then I'll just and then I'll just
mess with it to this, you know, blah blah blah,
and then then we're out.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
But I typically because I don't know how to use
a blow dryer. So because I don't know how to
use a blow dryer, just slick the hair back, dry it,
then use the palmade and then do the whole like
messy thing. But so sometimes, like if I have a
morning event, I'll actually sleep with the do rag, which
Teddy hates, or I'll sleep with this sucker, which Teddy hates.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
So where did you learn that routine?
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Ah? Man, that's just like younger my hair because it's
so thick, it goes. Yeah, so that sort of like
holms it down, straightens it, and then I do my
thing and then it looks like it's dry. Right, So
I just I should probably learn how to damn use
the blow dry that'd probably be a lot easier to
save me three hours of freaking taking a shower three
hours before I go out.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
That's awesome. I still like to wait till the last minute.
I learned how to blow drying my hair watching the
hairstylists do it for me. Yeah, So that's that's the
only reason I use to blow dry. It's so much
easier too. But you know there's times where let's say
I'm writing my Harley, I just slick my hair back,
put a little bit of pomp me to keep my
hair out of my face. And throw my helmet on,
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and I'm off on the off on the races, right.
But for a red carpet event, yeah, I get ready
real fast. I usually ask my wife what she wants
me to wear, because you know, most red carpet events
are because of her, and I let her decide, you
know what, what I'm gonna wear, unless I'm in a
mood and I'm like, I'm gonna wear whatever I want
to wear. But she usually picks that out for me
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and says, okay, yeah, wear suit or wear jeans and
a nice shirt. I just go based on her opinion.
And then, you know, I have a couple of pairs
shoes in my closet that I don't wear often, you know,
because I just want them to look new for whatever
red carpet or whatever event we go to. So and
as far as clothing, I don't really pay too much
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attention anymore. You know. I've gone as far as getting
pants that I wear recently. When I go writing my
Harley from Costco, I will pay seventeen dollars for a
pair of pants that I can write on my Harley
because they need to be baggy, they need to be comfortable.
But yeah, They're not one hundred and eighty dollars pants.
They're seventeen dollars Costco pants.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
I have these like three they are probably four hundred
dollars slacks, but I wear them all the time and
I've had them for like, I don't know, five years.
They are my favorite and they're black.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
The other day I had a heart attack because like
they threw them in the dryer and I'm sorry they
washed them. Thank god they didn't put them in the
dry because I would have been, like, those are my
favorite and they don't make them anymore. Yeah, But it's
funny how for me, I always wear the same like
either the same genes or the same slacks. I like
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to have two go tos and then that's it. Yeah,
but they're super company and they look good, you know
what I've been getting lately. So I'm five nine, and
I think you're a little taller, what five ten maybe
five eleven?
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Yeah, five eleven. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
So now I don't know how Instagram finds this stuff out,
but I keep getting hit up for like these three
inch souls that are like all the time. Right, So
probably because you're not you're five to eleven, They're not
marketing to you. But every day they're marketing to me, like, hey,
you need three more inches on your soul, And so
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I keep getting these up and there's a part of
me that wants to buy it. I actually sent it
to Teddy because I just I was lazy where I
didn't actually want to like buy it, so I was like,
can you get this? And she still hasn't got it.
But like technology nowadays, right back in the day, when
I was single, I had these Ya sell boots and
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they had like a three inch heel. You know, back
in the day there was that boot cut so you
could never see the three inch heels. So I was
like six foot for a long time, and that that
was like my going out shoot. I only went out
with my Wi cell three inch heel that no one
would see. But because I wanted to be like women
(37:20):
that were five to nine but heels were like six
feet yeah, so I wanted at least be six foot.
So it's funny anyway, now I'm getting marketed to all
the time by these like heel things our souls, and
I'm like, why the hell wasn't this shiit around when
I was single, right you know? Yeah, now what's the point.
(37:40):
I'm I'm I'm happy, I'm married. I'm happy being five
to nine.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Yeah, our wife accept My license.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
Still says five to ten, by the way.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
But okay, I'm getting short. Oh man. So let me
ask you this. Do you get pampered in any way?
And do you enjoy it?
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Not? Really? You know, I've never been into massages. I
do facials. I like facials. I should do it more often.
I used to be good with them. Now, I mean,
I can't think they'll I can't remember the last time
I got a facial. But I used to be pretty
consistent with it, like once a month. Yeah, and I
just haven't done it. But I used to like facials.
That's that's as pampered as like I've gotten. I've never
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done the whole, the whole massage thing. It's just I've
got a couple, but it's just never been my thing.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Teddy took me to that one place where they I
think it's a Korean place, and they scrubbed the shit
out of you. Yeah. Man, they had one in Beverly Hills. Man.
That felt like reminded me a little bit of like
Saw the movie, Like, am I gonna get murdered or
something like. It's it's how would you describe Have you
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been in one of those? I have not.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
No, I've heard of them, and I've heard some are
highly traditional where you have to walk around naked and
from room the room, and you have to be naked.
They don't allow you not to be naked and it's
part of the whole experience. So I haven't tried that.
I haven't had the balls to do that.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
It kind of felt like a corner's office. Yeah, like
you know, they got there just like wash these like
all these washed it. They basically washed you like a dog.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
And you're just snaked and you're like, what the hell,
it's crazy. It took me. I was like, all right,
I'll do it, but.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
Yeah, it's funny. Now I understand Teddy loves to be
pampered with massages, right, Like that's her thing. That's that's
one thing my wife mentioned that she loves, and I
that's one thing I love. That's probably the most I
spend money on is massages. I used to get a massage.
At one point, I was getting a massage every week
and it got to the point where like, okay, I
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got to back off on this because my massage budget
is getting really big. But I just love the deep
shoe sports massage that you know, she gets in there
and she just finds the pain or finds the nod
or finds the issue and it just works it out
and I feel a million dollars a million times better afterwards.
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Even though it was a little painful, I know that
in a couple of days, it'll repair itself and I'll
be I'll get rid of that chronic pain, whether it's
my back or my neck or my shoulder whatever. Right,
So those are the kind of pampering massages I like,
I wouldn't even categorize them as pampering because they the
deeper that the therapists can get, the more productive it
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is for me. So when I have had massages, you know,
when I'm on vacation and I'm like, I just need
a massage, and I get a massage at the local hotel.
Is just one of those little sweetest touch touch, touch touch.
I hate those massages. They just they don't do anything.
And I think it was probably a year or two
(40:51):
ago I discovered or I decided to try a facial massage,
and that was pretty freaking awesome. I've never had a
facial massage or a facial and it's a pretty cool experience.
But yeah, I'd just rather get the whole shebang, you know,
head to toe massage. And I'll tell you, the longest
massage I've ever had, I think was like six hours.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
Yeah, she she worked her ass off, you know, paste herself.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
But she just feels like an eternity to me.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
Oh no, no, I two hours. An hour feels like
a warm up for me. Now, two hours is like
what I wish. But most massage therapists don't do more
than ninety minutes because it's a lot of work.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
But it was.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
It was incredible, and I felt like a gazillion dollars
after that was six hours. I don't know how she
did it, but she's pretty amazing.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
Now I saw Tamera did like, was it a face lift?
I don't know, she did something or her face.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
She did a brow lift and a CO two skin
procedure where they basically burn a layer or two of
your face. Since she did it at the same time.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
Oh, by the way, that's what happened to me. I
did one of those things where they peel your face
and like a dumb ass I got. I got a
facial like four days after. Yeah, that was not a
good combination for my face. Hints that picture that came out,
you know the first year of Real Housewives.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
Was it painful?
Speaker 2 (42:21):
Oh yeah, the peeling thing. Holy shit, it was again.
You know how everybody gives you free shit back, you know,
so they're like, hey, come in for this. It's it's
appealing thing, Teddy approved. But then I got another face
or just because it was for free as well, Yeah,
I'm like, I might as well make it look good.
Well yeah, no, it did the opposite for my face.
But anyway, would you ever do something like that? I
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would never do it like an eyelid thing like what
camera did.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
No. No, I won't say never because throughout my life
that I've ever said I'll never do that and never this,
never that.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
Ye.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
Somehow life just puts it in front of you and
and it changes things, right, It's all perspective. I would,
for example, my my wife has gotten plastic surgery and
she's not, you know, hiding it by any means. But
I've always told myself when I was younger, I would
never date or marry a woman that has to get
plastic surgery, because that's just not it's fake, it's phony,
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it's it's it's not a real person. And obviously I'm
in love with my wife and she's a real person.
I love the real woman she is, and that the
work she has had done on her face has been
very subtle.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
She's done a pretty job of like looking natural, like
I wouldn't Yeah, if she didn wantn't have posted on
the Instagram, I would have known.
Speaker 1 (43:39):
Yeah. So so I have a new outlook about it,
a new respect for it, you know, like, Okay, maybe
a little tuck here and there, if you can afford it,
because it's expensive, might do the trick. And the one
thing that I've always thought I probably would want to
do but I could never afford, was getting my teeth done.
(44:02):
I have pretty yeah, veneers, I've had. I have pretty
good teeth. There's a couple of crooked ones and you know,
chip your down my waist. No, no, but I am
gonna go. I'm gonna go do that, Edwin, I'm gonna
go get some veneers. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna fly
to Texas where Smile Texas is. It's one of the
best doctors. I I did VET a few doctors, and
(44:26):
I enjoyed the conversations because my biggest fear was they're
gonna grind your teeth all the way down, you know,
to the I guess call it the core, and you're
gonna have these weird teeth and then they're gonna put
some fake teeth on there, right, So I never want to.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
Bind you down.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
Nowadays, the new technology is they kind of sand it
a little bit. They just take a very very small
little layer of your teeth and then they'll do the
cosmetics side. Like my front teeth here are chipped a
little bit, so they'll they'll grind those a little bit
to their flat or even and then they'll grind a
little bit this crooked teeth a little bit so that
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the veneer can fit better. But here's the thing that
really convinced me. The doctor was all about function first
over esthetics, right, because you've seen doctors out there that
do these veneers and you have this fake white smile
that the teeth are all close together, it looks like
one piece and it just doesn't look natural at all.
(45:25):
And that's not what I want. I wanted to look
as natural as possible. So when the doctor mentioned their
technique is all about a function. First, they have to
be functional, like you've got to be able to eat,
you got to be able to bite into an apple.
You've got to be able to use them like they're
meant to be. And then we'll talk about esthetics. You know,
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how do we make them a little bit closer together,
how do we make them a little bit straighter. Do
we want to widen your smile a little bit or
keep it narrow based on your biology, right so or physiology.
So after talking to the doctor and doing my research
and then you know, getting a kind of an idea
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of what's going to look like, I was like, I
think I want these. I'm sold. I'm sold. So next
week we're going to go to Smile, Texas and get
fitted for them and get the temporaries, and then we're
going to fly home and then fly back and get
the permanent ones.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
And are you hearing it out on a with towm
at the same time.
Speaker 1 (46:25):
Yeah, Yeah, So both my wife and I are going
to do this and we're going to have million dollar smiles.
But you know, the thing that other concern I had was,
you know, as you age my grandmother who's ninety nine
years old. You know, she's been through a couple of
denture teeth, She's lost a couple of denture teeth, and
that just scares a shit out of me, Like, am
I going to lose my teeth? So I talked to
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the doctor about that, and he says, no, the technology
nowadays is so much better. You will probably have these
veneers until the day you die. So they last about
they used to last about ten years and you had
to get them redone kind of like fake boobs, right,
But the doctor said, you can get twenty to thirty
years depending on how well you maintain these, and you
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can get you know, really good longevity on your teeth.
So I'm going to have a big smile with straight teeth,
the perfect smile, and my wife's going to be happy.
I'm going to be happy, and you'll make sure we do.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
You're going to be showing off your teeth to us.
Speaker 1 (47:24):
I will, I will.
Speaker 2 (47:25):
Yeah, we got that to follow up on that.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
Yeah, that's probably going to be the most superficial thing
I've ever done to myself is my teeth, because I
just don't see myself getting you know, nip and tuck.
I scared my head too. Yeah, it just seems scary
to me, and I you know, I'm not so worried
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about it. You know, I know who I am. I
know I'm getting older, and I think the scary part for.
Speaker 2 (47:55):
Me is you do it, you don't like it, and
then you try to fix it it, then you don't
like it, yeah, and then before you know it, it's
just a shit show. So I've made the the decision
that I'm gonna just let it age. I'll do botox,
so I'll do that kind of stuff. But hey, I'm
just I'm scared deny it, like I'm scared of cutting
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my face like I have. You know, I've never been
in I've never gone down with oxygen what do they
call it, oh, anesthesia?
Speaker 1 (48:28):
Like you've never been put out?
Speaker 2 (48:29):
No, I've never been put out. So that's why I'm like,
probably a good thing that I because of that, I
probably won't do it, or I know I won't do
it because I'm just freaked out about that stuff.
Speaker 1 (48:39):
That's funny. I have been put out a few times
when I was having my heart issue, and they used
it was funny. I'll never forget the conversation the very
very first time I was going to be put out,
and I was like, I don't know what to expect
because the last time I was in the first time,
first and last time I was put out was when
I got my molers taken out, and I was like, thinks,
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seventeen eighteen, and I don't remember the experience. I just
remember waking up crying and you know, like what happened
to me? And recently when I had my heart issue,
I went to the doctors and they were gonna put
me out, and the nurse was just talking up well
profolo or something like that. Pro profolo, I think it's called.
It's an anesthesia that Michael Jackson used to sleep and
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she was like, it's the best experience ever. You're gonna
love it. And I'm like, I'm just getting put out.
And sure enough, you know, I think I was put
out multiple times that year, whether it was a cardio
version or actual ablationion, I was put out with that stuff,
and I'll tell you it was pretty awesome. It knocks
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you out, you don't even feel it. You wake up
and you're a little groggy, and it takes about three
or four hours to really get out of your system,
but you feel amazing. It's crazy. So I can understand
the excitement behind you you put out And it's pretty safe,
relatively safe, I think as long as you're pretty healthy
and the anesthesiologist as they're watching your monitoring, I think
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it's pretty safe. But that's that's yeah, that's my experience
with that. I do have one more point to make,
and that's why do you think most guys have the
stigma of not talking about, you know, their self care
(50:30):
or self beauty. You know, I mean I have a
lot of friends that do take care of themselves. I
grew up in the era that was metrosexual, right, you know,
you take care of your health, you take care of
your hire, you take care of them. You know, you
just take care of yourself. What about those guys I
just don't care, you know, they just so.
Speaker 2 (50:51):
I always often talk about how whatever you don't do
for a long time, you'll start to dislike it. Right, So,
if you don't do something for a long time, dislike it.
So if you haven't gone to the gym for a
long time, you probably dislike the gym. If you haven't
really taken care of yourself for a long time, you
probably dislike having to take care of yourself because whatever
(51:13):
whatever you serve, you'll love. Right. So many times, like
you said, like you just kind of get away from
like taking care of yourself and before you know you're
just like yah, screw it, and before you know it,
you're you just let yourself go, right. So I think
there's a part of you know, if you let yourself
(51:33):
go sometimes it's so hard to get back to where
you want to that it's so discouraging that you just
take the easier path, right, which is not like I'm
thinking fitness right for me. I've always had an example,
is fitness right for me? There is a certain point
(51:53):
where I'm like, oh man, I need to get back
to it right, because if I don't, I'm gonna let
myself get to another place that it's harder to recover
from as far as like it's just hard and it's discouraging, right,
So I try not to let it get to that place, right.
So I think with I guess taking care of yourself,
(52:17):
whether that's your fitness, whether that's the way you dress,
whether it's I think it just comes back to when
you don't do something for a long time, you just
start to dislike it, and you're like, yeah, I don't
need that anymore, care about it? So not a bad
I mean, it could be a good thing in many
reasons and in many ways, right, Like if you haven't
(52:38):
drank for a long time, you start to dislike alcohol,
Like I don't really like alcohol anymore, right, But it's
just I rarely drink now, so I don't really like
it as much.
Speaker 1 (52:49):
You know. So do you think there's guys out there
that talk about it freely because it's a normal I
don't even want to stay secure because there's a lot
to secure guys out there that just don't do you know,
the self care, self beauty.
Speaker 2 (53:04):
It's also pricey, right, so like I guess you pick
and choose, right, So for women probably a little more important,
I would think, yeah, than for men. And for men
it's expensive. So you're like, yeah, that's not really a
priority for me right now. So I'm cool with my
T shirt, right, I'm cool with not getting a facial
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and things like that. So that that's kind of the
way I look at it.
Speaker 1 (53:29):
What about your nails? Have you ever gotten your nails done?
Speaker 2 (53:31):
Do you get your na?
Speaker 1 (53:32):
Know? What?
Speaker 2 (53:32):
Nails is one thing I've never my toenails. I'm starting
to do now just because you know, as you get older,
your toenails get weird too, So those I'm starting to do.
But I found like, shit, man, that thing's expensive. Like
I'm like, come on, you're really going to charge me
eighty bucks for or a hunt? Like haircuts are expensive now,
like what happened to the five dollars haircuts?
Speaker 1 (53:54):
Right?
Speaker 2 (53:55):
Like when I was growing up, I was getting a
three dollar haircut. Now it's like seventy eighty. I'm like,
wait a minute, you just freaking run my hair up
and you're charging me eighty bucks or a hundred bucks
and then you got a tip on top of that.
Speaker 1 (54:08):
Yeah, hund dollar haircut. That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (54:11):
The one I can't justify is my hand nails because
I could easily just get a clipper. Yeah, do it myself,
so that I refuse to pay for the toenails I'm
paying for.
Speaker 1 (54:21):
Okay, I wouldn't. I wouldn't expose my nail lady to
my toenails because they're just grotesque. But yeah, I wouldn't
pay for that either, because for me, I can just
get a clipper and be clip my nails and spiling
down and be done within a minute. Honestly, it takes
that long to just get it done. And I just
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can't justify paying eighty dollars to get my nails done.
But I do know some guys that that's their thing.
They really enjoy that and it's their way of pampering themselves.
Speaker 2 (54:53):
But yeah, you guys getting circumcised when they're older.
Speaker 1 (54:57):
I have, I've heard, I have, remember I think I was.
It was must have been like twenty years ago. And
I don't really know why they would do that at
that age. I think we were in our mid thirties
when this guy was talking about it, and I just
didn't understand, you know, why he wanted to do that,
you know, but.
Speaker 2 (55:16):
It makes your penis look bigger. I don't know. But
I that's a hard one for me. That's a tough thing.
That is shage at this age. You know.
Speaker 1 (55:28):
I I don't want beauty to be painful. I want
it to be as natural as possible. But sometimes, you know,
I don't know how painful this teeth thing is. Going
to the doctor said it doesn't hurt at all, But
I have no idea because you know, I grew up
with the budget dentists that would, you know, stick the
needle into your bone and it would just traumatize you
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and you would never want to go back to the dentists, right, dude, I.
Speaker 2 (55:53):
Wore braceists for three years because I couldn't we couldn't
afford to take him out.
Speaker 1 (55:57):
Oh that's right, that you know that would traumatize you.
So it wasn't until my probably early to mid forties
that I found a dentist that did not stick the
needle into my bone and make me cry. And I
had a new new outlook for going to the dentists
and getting my teeth clean and getting my teeth worked
done because it wasn't painful anymore when they stuck the
needle in my mouth. But that's yeah, if it's painful,
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I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. So anyways,
I'm always great chatting with you and catching up. I'm
glad you're doing well.
Speaker 2 (56:31):
Saying some with you. Man, I'm glad you're doing well.
Can't wait, just look at your teeth next time.
Speaker 1 (56:35):
Yeah, I'm excited too. I'm actually excited. I always been
against it, but I'm actually interested in open to it
and excited to see what it looks like all right,
till next time, Until next time,
This is The EDS with Eddie Judge and Edwin Aroyavi
the Husbands Know Best two Teas production. All right, we
are back for episode fourteen with the EDS podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Here.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
This is going to be an episode with a topic
which men don't talk about often, and that is self
care and beauty. It's sort of like the secrets behind
the mirror for guys. You know, from routines to cosmetic procedures,
regimens and fashion. We know women do it all the
time and are real critical about what they look like
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and feel like and where. But what about us men?
You know, how do we handle beauty and self care
in this day and age. Let's get into it. What
do you think? How do we do it? Well?
Speaker 2 (00:52):
I can tell you I think for me, I used
to care about it when I was younger, Like it
felt like fashion was a little more more important, like
twenty years ago. Like now I just feel it's like
everybody's wearing T shirts and stuff and h just T
shirts and jeans, and it's so much easier to get
dressed now, right whereas before, like you had to dress
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up a little more like now, you know, just with
the whole athletic wear and everything. Yeah, it feels like
you don't have to dress up as much. And I
think a part of that is maybe that a lot
of people are working from home and stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Right, Yeah, do you remember during the tech rise that
all these tech companies started wearing short of I mean
they do it now, they wear pajamas, but they were
wearing short of pajamas to work and you didn't have
to wear a suit anymore. And I was in a
professional space at that time in the law firm, and
I was proud to wear a suit to work. It
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made me feel really good and important. But it was
weird to see all these professional tech guys walking in
their jeans and T shirts and you know, loafers to
go to work.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
But yeah, definitely, I think feeling good is important, that
is for sure. So whatever makes you feel good, I
think it is important. So you like, sometimes even where
I'm gonna work from home, I'll get dressed up as
if I'm going to work, so I could just feel
like I'm at work right versus just being in like
shorts and sandals, and it just mentally gets me in
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the right mindset.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
I agree, one hundred percent. Before we get any further,
I want to know because Here's what I know about you, Edwin.
You do take care of yourself. You do exercise, you
do eat healthy, and you are about good mental health
and good emotional health. And you really are doing a
lot of self care.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Right.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
I've also learned that you really dress well. You know,
there's certain labels that you wear. I guess a lot
of hair stuff products and skin care products and all that.
When did that self consciousness of looking good and taking
care of myself start for you? Do you remember?
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Yeah? I think after high school, like I want to
just work out. I wanted to look good, I think
fitness wise. At first, I think it was more for
vanity reasons. Is for women. I wanted to I wanted
women to be attracted to me. So I figured, okay,
well let's work out, right. I think now it's more
it brings me. It just relaxes me, like it's part
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of my mental health. Like I run because it helps
me with anxiety. It helps me with you know, taking
on things during the day that could be stressful. You know.
I get that runners high after when I run. So
now it's more for it keeps me, you know, sane,
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And I think, yeah, like I think at the beginning
with with even with fashion, it was it was always
for women.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Right.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
As you get older, you know, not not as much, right,
but you know, I still like to I still like
to feel like like like, I still like to feel good, right,
But yeah, I mean I think, I mean, yeah, what
about what about you? What's the insecurity that you have
maybe of something looks wise, I guess, or beauty.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Well, I'm I'm you know, in my fifties, I'm becoming
that old guy living care.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
I can't even believe you said fifty.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Yeah, it's fifty one years old and good for that age.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Physically, thank you. Physically, I feel like I've done pretty
good throughout my entire life of self care. Emotionally I've
done pretty well as well. And confidence wise, you know
I did. We do these things because we want to
build our confidence since we were young. The very first
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time I remember considering my self care distinctively was when
I went transitioned from seventh grade to eighth grade. In
seventh grade, I was just a nerdy, you know, playful
kind of kid, just running around playing with dogs, playing
with people. Didn't care what I wore, didn't care about
how I looked, and nothing the minute I went into
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eighth grade, I started changing the hair, having a hairstyle,
changing the way I looked. In fact, I remember for
my eighth grade graduation, I wore a white Miami Vice
suit for my graduation because I thought I was cool
and I had this big, old quoth you know, hairstyle
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to the side. And that was the beginning of my
self care and self consciousness of I got to look good,
you know, because otherwise girls aren't going to like me. Yeah,
And naturally that's when it started for me, and I
started getting a lot of attention. And I think sports
in high school was what gave me the confidence for
self awareness, like I'm fit, I'm fast, I'm you know,
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in control of what I'm physically doing to myself. And
it wasn't until I graduated high school that I started
doing weightlifting, and leading up to that, you know, it
was trying to figure out what kind of hairstyle I want,
what kind of outfits I want, what kind of car
I want to drive, what you know, persona I want
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to build. So my point is is it evolved tremendously
from when I first started taking care of myself too.
Like you said, Vanity, purposes. I lifted weight to vanity purpose,
but also for confidence.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
You know.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
I was a skinny little guy, fast runner because I
had some really strong legs and absolutely no upper body muscle.
And when I gained that and had the muscle, had
the confidence, it changed everything. And people naturally respect you
because you're fit, because you you're fast, you know whatever,
you know, physical activity you're doing, and it just helped
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me realize I might be doing something right here, you know,
and I just kept doing it. I just that's what
kept me in the fitness industry and the fitness world
all my life. I've always had a fitness class or
one foot in the fitness industry while I was doing
you know, all this business entrepreneur business building companies and
stuff like that. So it was just always a part
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of me, and I think it was the biggest part
of me because that's where I got most of my
self confidence growing up in sports, as you know, you
have that competitiveness in you, and when you don't have
that after high school, you kind of have a void
that you have to fill. So the way I filled it,
you know, was racing bicycles or you know, doing you know,
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I don't know mostly racing bicycles was my thing until
I discovered Spartan in my older age. But I always
wanted to have some sort of competitiveness in my life
because it it That's how I thrived, that's how I
felt good about myself. Never really got into bodybuilding company
Tissies because when I found out the way that they
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get to those big muscles is you got to take steroids.
And because I was afraid of needles, I said, nah,
I don't want to go that route. And there's a
lot of negativity, not negativity, but side effects. Talks about
taking steroids like you know that. You know, some kids
say shit like, oh, your penis gets smaller. I don't
want a small penis, ne do I? But you know,
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stuff like that was said. But the real reason was
I was afraid of needles. I want to put a
needle in me.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
You know what's interesting about confidence. I remember being eighteen
nineteen and even during high school, like I had before
I went out, I had to get a haircut and
it had to be like a zero, right, so like
a buzz and if I was clean shaven, and I
would wear these jeans and a white collared shirt. Never failed.
(08:57):
I would always pick up on chicks if I had
that outfit, right, but I had to have the haircut.
And if I didn't have the haircut, let's just say
I couldn't make it. I'd have like the worst luck
that night, like no action whatsoever. And as I think
back at as I think back on it, it was
all confidence. Like I didn't look that much different just
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because I gave myself a buzz a zero cut on
the sides. But in my head, that's what was going
to make me successful that night. So there is something
to say about confidence and what it can do for
you and how much I guess women just want a
confident Matt at the end of the day.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Well, interestingly enough, I think it's your surroundings that influenced
your desire to do self care. And, for lack of
better description, beauty, you know it just beauty and guys
just don't go together. For me. It's just don't call
me beautiful, handsome. I'll take hands them all they but
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don't call me pretty or beautiful. Just doesn't make sense.
But let's say I lived on a farm, and I
grew up on a farm. The last thing going to
think about is waxing my eyebrows, or wax in my
nose or even shaving my face. You know, I'm going
to be shoveling cowshit everywhere. Why would I want to
get all, you know, clean shaven and deorderized and hair
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style to go shovel shit? Right? So, I think it's
your surroundings growing up in Orange County. My understanding of
Orange Counties, Florida. They're the mecca of fitness. Southern California
is the mecca of fitness and beauty, and the majority
of the people here exercise mostly for vanity. But I
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think it's shifting into more for longevity and good health.
But I think if I didn't live in Orange County,
I really wouldn't worry about waxing my eyebrows, because that's
one thing I used to do a lot, and I
just went recently because I started looking like a Neanderthal.
So I will wax my eyebrows. I do like waxing
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my nose hairs because I just don't, you know, I
don't like having a big old bullshel in my nose.
And again, some of the things I just take.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
And Teddy hates it because I'll literally just go like
this and pull it out and she hates it. She
hates when I do that.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
That's when you know you need to go get a wax.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Right now, when you know you got to go get
a wax.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
And then more recently, I started noticing, and I don't
know if it's just because of my self consciousness when
I you know, I have been waxing my ears as well.
I started noticing hair growing in my ears. And and
it happens as you get older, right, yes, the same ship.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Now. I didn't have hair coming out of my ears before,
but now in my age, I'm starting to see like
hair coming out of places that I I wasn't expecting
hair to be coming out of.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Yeah, and I have you know, some of my dirt
bike friends that you know, they don't care about, you know,
their love. You know, it's a whole different group of
guys that I hang out with, and they got a
big old bushel in their ear. And I'm like, oh,
should I tell them? Should I not say anything? You know,
but it's to each and their own.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
You know.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
I could justify it and say I pull my hairs
in my nose because I want to breathe better. I
pull the hairs in my ears because I want to
hear better. Well, why do you watch your eyebrows because
I want to look better? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
By the way, when I was thirty, I had a
friend of mine that was like, why don't you shave
your legs? Like, because you know, he's like, you got
hairy legs. Why don't you to your environment right? And
he's like, you gotta shave your legs right. So, like
a dumb ass, I was like, Okay, maybe I should
shave my legs, but I don't want to shave. Let's
just get it out of the way and go get laser.
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Holy shit, I've never gone through something more painful in
my life like that shit was so painful. And then
of course I have to tell Teddy why I did that,
And I made up the stink because I was cycling
at the time. That apparently when you when you're swimmer
or cyclists, you have to shave your legs because you
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get faster. I guess you do. That's so that's what
I went with, But that wasn't really the reason I
did it. I wanted my legs supposedly to look good,
but man, that shit was so painful. I went to
three treatments. I was out, and then the hair grew
back to top it off, like I still have my
hairy legs. I thought I would go away forever, which
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is why I went through it. But holy shit, that
was painful.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
A beauty is painful, bro. And I've only heard about
getting your legs electrolysis. I think it's called where they
zap your hair. I heard how painful that is, and
I would never do it. I wouldn't even do wax
on my legs. When I first started shaving my legs,
it was for the same exact reason. It was for
cycling purposes. Everybody talked about it like like you said,
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and I struggled with it in this because I'm like,
that's not a manly thing to do, shaving your legs,
you know. So I made myself a promise, and I
was racing road bikes at the time. I said, if
I can win three races in my in my category,
I will shave my legs. Sure Enough, I won three
races in a row and I had to go and
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shave my legs and it was really hard. It was
really hard the very first time. I just had to
get past that you actually shaved no I shaved, I
got the shaving cream and the and the razor, and
afterwards I got to be honest, I loved the way
my legs felt. They were so smooth and so like
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comfortable and and you know, it didn't feel terrible. So
I was hooked and I kept shaving him as long
as I rode and until recently because I haven't When
I started racing Spartan, I stopped cycling and racing road bikes,
so I had no reason to shave my legs. And
I'm not a hairy guy generally. I think part of
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somebody has said before that it's because you're a part Indian.
I don't have a lot of hair. But I still
prefer to shave my legs and I just have to
have a reason for it. And recently I told myself,
if you can ride, get back on the bike and
start riding again, then you can shave your legs. So
it's just one of those things like you gotta have
a reason.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Right, Is sex a reason to shave?
Speaker 1 (15:22):
No? No, I mean the private parts. Yes, I do
keep my private parts clean.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
I feel like it looks bigger when it's clean, right.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Yes, I think so, I you know, I frequently talked
about that, what do you think? And the only reason
I don't shave my face is because for years I
used to shave my face to go to work, and
I hated it, and sometimes i'd get, you know, the
bumps on my face and it just sucked. And it
wasn't until I left the professional legal world that I said,
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you know, I'm not sure even anymore. Plus, my wife
likes the hair on my face, so and now I
just trim it and keep it clean. But even then,
you know, sometimes I forget and I go two months
without even looking at it, and I have this big
old beard and hair coming out of my nose, hair
coming to my ears, and my hair's all over the place.
And it's not pretty nowadays because when my hair grows long,
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it shows the gray. It's like whoa. But honestly, I
would never color my hair. I know there's some guys,
would you color your hair?
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Yeah? Color I dye my hair. Yes, I've actually been
dying it probably forty one. I'm pretty gray. Yeah. I
can't get used to the gray hair, though I've tried,
like I've done the gray thing for a while, and
I don't. I can't get used to it.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
I mean, like my wife says, I love you with
gray hair, I'm just not there yet. It's gotta yeah,
it's it's got to happen. I don't feel it yet now,
like my beard when it's all white, if I let
it grow, it's all white, I don't mind. I like
my white dud. My gray hair, yeah, not with it
just yet. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
I was afraid to start doing my hair when I
started getting gray because I didn't want to maintain it.
You know, it's because it's one of those things once
you start and you're fighting eight for example, and next
thing you know, you're six years old and you're still
coloring your hair, and it just doesn't make sense because
even over sixty, your skin looks aged and your hair
looks twenty. You know, it just doesn't it make sense.
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Another thing also is actors I've admired, like some actors
that have that sophisticated uh you know, I think they
call it fox gray fox hair or something like that.
Gray fox.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
So I've seen some afrofs that I look up to silverfox, yeah,
and they look good and then you know, they portrayed
really well and mature and sophisticated and wise, and you know,
I'm okay with being that guy. Now, I'll be the
wise guy, I'll be sophisticated, I'll be you know, I'm
okay with the gray hair now because there's nothing I
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can do about it.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Yeah, my kids don't like the gray hair. Whenever I'm great, dad,
can you get rid of the grays? Teddy loves it,
not the kids. You know what I just realized. I'm
gonna tell you a fun story that I just remembered
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so and it's funny because it's happened to me twice
in my life where I was excited about, like an
event where I was gonna go take pictures. Okay, the
first one was my prom, right, I was. I was
in the royal court and you know, going for prom
king and all that, and I went out of my
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way to feel good and look good.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Right.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
So my buddy at the time, at the time, there
was this whole thing of guys kind of doing their
eyebrows and they called it pretty boys and stuff, and
like women just liked it like it was a weird time. Yeah.
So my buddy had like these great eyebrows that were
sort of arched, and I said to him, hey, can
you do eyebrows like yours like? And he's like, sure,
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it is one of my best friends. Well, this dude
does them, and by the time he's done with them,
I look like a drag queen. My eyebrows they're so thin.
I got to show you a picture. Next time I
see you, I send it to you. They're like the
thinnest eyebrows you could have seen. So you see me
in the Royal Court, and what was supposed to be
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a picture that I'd always remember forever is like the
one of the worst pictures I've ever taken. And I
look like a drag queen, right, And then it happens
to me twenty five years later or twenty some years
later whatever. It was at our premiere for Real Housewives
Beverly Hills, the first year we came out.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
So that happened.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Well, I'm like, man, coming out, it's carpet, I'm gonna
look good. And I straightened my hair because I wanted
my hair to look a certain way, which I but
it was so straight it looked just whacked.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Oh wow.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
But then I got a facial and I did something
else to my face, like right next to it, like
you know, like it was a facial and like one
of those zap things. Anyways, all I know, yeah, is
my face was like a it was reddish and it
was it felt like as if it felt dry as
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could be. Like I think I've never felt my face
more dry in my life. Yeah. Anyway, I do the
Red Carpet and it's like the worst picture that I've
ever taken in my life, even worse than the problem
when I had and I still hate when I go
and google my name. It's still one of the pictures
that comes out. Yeah, and now I'm stuck for that
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just for batity reasons because I wanted to come out
good in a magazine at the times, I figured it
was probably going to come out on somewhere, so I
wanted to look good, like, hey, premiere, this is the
new husband and worst picture take ever. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
So anyway, so let me let me talk about this
next because I think it's it's important to decipher there's
two ways that we get ready. I think one is
getting up in the morning a regular routine and we
go on our day, and then there's days where we
have an event to get ready for a red carpet event,
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like you just said, right, so I want to know
a little bit about your routine when you get up
in the morning. And this is un like you. I
like to work out in the morning. So I get
up and I have my coffee, and I go to
the gym and I get that done. And then if
I I'm ready for my day, I'll take a shower.
And if i'm whether I'm working at home or i'm
you know, running around with meetings, I'll do my hair
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and all that stuff. So let's talk a little bit
about our daily routines and then the difference between our
daily routines and our red carpet routines. Okay, so in
the morning, I get up, I brush my teeth. That's
probably the first thing I like to do in the morning. Well,
the one thing I have to go to do in
the morning is go to the bathroom. Then I'll brush
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my teeth, and then I'll go downstairs and then I'll
have a bottle of water, and then then I'll make
my coffee. Depending on my mood, it's either a double
espresso or a cappuccino, right, and I'll just take my time.
I love to read in the morning, and so I
spend about twenty minutes reading and then I get ready,
feed my dog, go to the gym, come back, and
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then I'm ready to go. And my regular routine really
is I mean, I wear a hat most of the
time because two reasons. One it's super easy, so let's
call it lazy, and the other is because it's the
way to market my brand. I truly believe when you
have a company, you market it any way. You can't
whether it's a T shirt, hat, car billboards, however, you
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just you got to be a walking billboard because that's
just the.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Way it is, right.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
So I find myself wearing a hat most of the time.
And even though I'll get a haircut, lately, it's been
every other month, so I wait till I start looking
like a chevaka and I'm like, can you get me in?
So they cut it short and then you know, it's
good for about three weeks and then it just goes
the hey to hell from there. But that's really my routine.
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I shower, I brush my teeth, I put some lotion
on my skin because I've always done that most of
my life, and that's it. If I do fix my hair,
it's like literally two minutes. And I do use a
blow dryer sometimes depending on how long my hair is.
And that's about it. That's all I do for you know,
(24:00):
beauty stuff. And then, of course, because I wear tank
tops and not tank toss but T shirts and T
shirts most of my day and I'm in tennis shoes
most of my day, I try to wear branded you
know clothes, and I get a hard time for my
wife and production like, do you wear anything else? Nope,
(24:22):
That's all I wear. So it's it's been fortunate to
get to this point. But I used to wear a
suit to work every day, and I would wear I
would go to the me too, you do. I like
to wear suits when we go to red carpet events
because that's really pretty much the only time I get
to wear them anymore. I have no reason to wear
you know suits really anymore. But I do feel good.
(24:45):
I do feel good in having to dress up like that.
So tell me about your daily routine and then we'll
talk about, you know, our red carpet routine.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
As as soon as I wake up, I thank God
for my health and I thank God for just another
day of life, and then I drink some water. I
usually like to keep two glasses of water there, and
it's like to down at least the first one, right,
I can't tell you, like hydration is so important for energy, right,
(25:16):
So for me it's like just the first hour is
so important to me, right, it's so hydrated. I have
a Bible app that I read. I like to read
at least one little chapter a day. I do a
little then I go and brush my teeth, and as
(25:38):
I'm brushing my teeth, I do a little gratitude exercise
that I like to do, which I think I've talked
about it here before. Where what am I happy about?
What am I excited about? What am I proud of?
What am I grateful for? What am I enjoying? What
am I committed to? And what do I love? And
the sub question to that is what about it makes
(26:00):
me feel this way? And I do that typically as
I'm brushing my teeth, and that kind of gets me
just in a you know, gratitude is just I think,
so important, right.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
It.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
I think gratitude and forgiveness are sort of inseparable, right,
And then from there I go down and get my shake.
So usually I like to do a six thirty class,
like a hit class or a hot yoga class. But
that's kind of my routine in the morning and then
(26:35):
at night time. I love my sleep. I try to
get six hours minimum, but in a perfect world seven
is like ideal. But in order I noticed that in
order to get that sleep, I gotta wake I gotta
go to bed. Try to start going to bed around
nine thirty, because if I stay up till like eleven,
(26:57):
it messes up my entire sleep. Like I'm up at eight,
it'll take me Like if I try to go down
by eleven, I won't go to bed till twelve, and
then I'm up all night and then I'll wake up
at five. So it messages up the routine. But if
I can go to sleep early, like at nine point thirty,
I'll sleep the entire night and I'll wake up at five.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
I almost feel like maybe it's because we're getting older.
But what's that movie called Benjamin Button. Yeah, I feel
like now that I'm getting old, I feel like I'm
a kid again. Remember when like your kids, right, Yeah,
the earlier you put them to bed, the longer they sleep. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Right.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
So that's like one of the things that Teddy's always
done a great job with our kids is she gets
some trained to go to like our youngest. Right, she'll
go to sleep at seven, she'll wake up at eight, nice,
and she'll still take a nap from twelve to three,
twelve to four, So she sleeps a ton, right, It's
probably why she's so tall. But if we were to
(27:55):
put her to bed at twelve, she'd still wake up
at eight. Yeah, it's not like, oh, I'm up at twelve.
I stayed up till twelve, so I'm gonna wake up
at ten.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
No.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
She still wakes up around the same time no matter what.
So I'm kind of the same way now, like if
I stay up late. That that's why I hardly like
going out anymore. That's why my dinner again, I'm like
an old man now, like dinner. You want to have dinner?
I had five thirty six.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Yep, I'm right there with you.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
But it gives me time to digest my food. Right, Yeah,
I sleep better, and yeah, it's it's it's hard to
get me to go out at night anymore, just because
it messes up my sleep so much.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Yeah, I get it now too, Like why older people
when I was young, you know, like why are you
going to bed starting?
Speaker 2 (28:41):
How?
Speaker 1 (28:41):
What a boring life. And the reality is I'd rather
have a boring, healthy life than feel exhausted, drained, and
you know, sick because I'm going out all the time,
eating out all the time, drinking all the time. I
just do not desire that at all. Yeah, So tell
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me about some of the products you use in the
morning to start your day. Do you use a face cream?
Do you use any anything for the bags under your eyes?
Do you wax your eyebrows or nose or ears?
Speaker 2 (29:21):
So?
Speaker 1 (29:21):
What do you use for a hair stuff?
Speaker 2 (29:23):
The dyes, the odd the eyes. I don't do is
good of a job with on the cream. I do
like putting creams every morning. In fact, I probably need
a lesser expensive brand. I use this brand called Lamurr
all right. I brought it just in case I think
expensive though. I need to find me maybe or maybe
(29:45):
they could sponsor me. But do you like it? I
love it? It's just freaking pricing. Yeah, I still use
good old Murray's. Have you ever heard of Morays? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Yeah, that's great. Yeah, yeah, probably three bucks all over
your body. It clears up dry skin like no other.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
So yeah, well I don't think it's the same one
More's is like the it's an orange can.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Oh no, I was thinking about the white bottle. Okay.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
It's for people that have really thick care.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
I have really big care okay, and what you put
on your hair. Yeah, oh okay.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
So it's like a palmade right. So that's one product
that will spend a lot of money. And in fact,
that's that's the same product I used to use in
high school. Okay, I still use it nowt here twenty
you know, twenty five thirty years later. Yeah, and it's
just my favorite. So you know who also uses that product?
My father in law.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Oh okay, is he the one that turned you onto it? No?
Speaker 2 (30:44):
I'd been using it since I was like sixteen fifteen.
So when I was at his house and saw it,
I was like, oh shit, we used the same product.
That's pretty cool because it's so inexpensive.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
You know, that's awesome. Cool, So you got hair hair products.
I do use a palmad in my hair. I've used
it for many, many, many, mini many years. And I
discovered it at a salon that I used to go
to four men only it was what was it called?
I forgot what it was called, but it was awesome
(31:12):
because you walk into the salon, they offer you either
coffee or a glass of cocktail or something right, and
then they can do your haircut. They can do your
ear wax, your your nose wax, your eyebrow wax, everything
that you can do to a guy. Even at some
point they were doing butt waxes, like they were offering
(31:32):
to wax your butt. But it was all I think
they offered facials and stuff like that. It was just
to pamper men, and I enjoyed it. I didn't go,
you know, any further than just waxing my face and
getting a haircut.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
You mean you didn't do a butt wax.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
I did not. I contemplated it, you know, because I
do have a hairy but I don't know why, but
I definitely thought about it, you know, but I just
didn't want to show my buttholes to anybody. I don't
even show it to my wife. But yeah, that was
my first experience. That's when I discovered palmate, and I've
(32:11):
been using it ever since. And nowadays. You know, if
I'm not getting ready for a red carpet event and
i have to get ready to go out, you can
ask my wellife if it takes me less than five minutes.
Even the shower, Like I wait the last minute, jump
in a shower real quick, and I'm ready to go
in five minutes.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
The hat is so easy, too write, when you just
wear a hat and boom go.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Yeah. Yeah. If I could wear a hat everywhere, my
life would be so much easier.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
What about your routine when you're going to go on
a red carpet event or an event where everybody's decked out,
let's say a gala, you know, Okay, what's your routine?
Speaker 2 (32:47):
So if I want to have like a good hair day,
which I'm not having today, I typically well take a
shower about three hours prior. Okay, I'll wear like a
beanie or like a do rag, right, and then I'll
literally wait till the hair gets dry. Right, but it's
like three hours. I'll just I'll either have a hat
(33:08):
or this when I'll take it out and it's all
straight right, and then I'll just and then I'll just
mess with it to this, you know, blah blah blah,
and then then we're out.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
But I typically because I don't know how to use
a blow dryer. So because I don't know how to
use a blow dryer, just slick the hair back, dry it,
then use the palmade and then do the whole like
messy thing. But so sometimes, like if I have a
morning event, I'll actually sleep with the do rag, which
Teddy hates, or I'll sleep with this sucker, which Teddy hates.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
So where did you learn that routine?
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Ah? Man, that's just like younger my hair because it's
so thick, it goes. Yeah, so that sort of like
holms it down, straightens it, and then I do my
thing and then it looks like it's dry. Right, So
I just I should probably learn how to damn use
the blow dry that'd probably be a lot easier to
save me three hours of freaking taking a shower three
hours before I go out.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
That's awesome. I still like to wait till the last minute.
I learned how to blow drying my hair watching the
hairstylists do it for me. Yeah, So that's that's the
only reason I use to blow dry. It's so much
easier too. But you know there's times where let's say
I'm writing my Harley, I just slick my hair back,
put a little bit of pomp me to keep my
hair out of my face. And throw my helmet on,
(34:28):
and I'm off on the off on the races, right.
But for a red carpet event, yeah, I get ready
real fast. I usually ask my wife what she wants
me to wear, because you know, most red carpet events
are because of her, and I let her decide, you
know what, what I'm gonna wear, unless I'm in a
mood and I'm like, I'm gonna wear whatever I want
to wear. But she usually picks that out for me
(34:50):
and says, okay, yeah, wear suit or wear jeans and
a nice shirt. I just go based on her opinion.
And then, you know, I have a couple of pairs
shoes in my closet that I don't wear often, you know,
because I just want them to look new for whatever
red carpet or whatever event we go to. So and
as far as clothing, I don't really pay too much
(35:13):
attention anymore. You know. I've gone as far as getting
pants that I wear recently. When I go writing my
Harley from Costco, I will pay seventeen dollars for a
pair of pants that I can write on my Harley
because they need to be baggy, they need to be comfortable.
But yeah, They're not one hundred and eighty dollars pants.
They're seventeen dollars Costco pants.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
I have these like three they are probably four hundred
dollars slacks, but I wear them all the time and
I've had them for like, I don't know, five years.
They are my favorite and they're black.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
The other day I had a heart attack because like
they threw them in the dryer and I'm sorry they
washed them. Thank god they didn't put them in the
dry because I would have been, like, those are my
favorite and they don't make them anymore. Yeah, But it's
funny how for me, I always wear the same like
either the same genes or the same slacks. I like
(36:04):
to have two go tos and then that's it. Yeah,
but they're super company and they look good, you know
what I've been getting lately. So I'm five nine, and
I think you're a little taller, what five ten maybe
five eleven?
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Yeah, five eleven. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
So now I don't know how Instagram finds this stuff out,
but I keep getting hit up for like these three
inch souls that are like all the time. Right, So
probably because you're not you're five to eleven, They're not
marketing to you. But every day they're marketing to me, like, hey,
you need three more inches on your soul, And so
(36:36):
I keep getting these up and there's a part of
me that wants to buy it. I actually sent it
to Teddy because I just I was lazy where I
didn't actually want to like buy it, so I was like,
can you get this? And she still hasn't got it.
But like technology nowadays, right back in the day, when
I was single, I had these Ya sell boots and
(36:57):
they had like a three inch heel. You know, back
in the day there was that boot cut so you
could never see the three inch heels. So I was
like six foot for a long time, and that that
was like my going out shoot. I only went out
with my Wi cell three inch heel that no one
would see. But because I wanted to be like women
(37:20):
that were five to nine but heels were like six
feet yeah, so I wanted at least be six foot.
So it's funny anyway, now I'm getting marketed to all
the time by these like heel things our souls, and
I'm like, why the hell wasn't this shiit around when
I was single, right you know? Yeah, now what's the point.
(37:40):
I'm I'm I'm happy, I'm married. I'm happy being five
to nine.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Yeah, our wife accept My license.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
Still says five to ten, by the way.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
But okay, I'm getting short. Oh man. So let me
ask you this. Do you get pampered in any way?
And do you enjoy it?
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Not? Really? You know, I've never been into massages. I
do facials. I like facials. I should do it more often.
I used to be good with them. Now, I mean,
I can't think they'll I can't remember the last time
I got a facial. But I used to be pretty
consistent with it, like once a month. Yeah, and I
just haven't done it. But I used to like facials.
That's that's as pampered as like I've gotten. I've never
(38:22):
done the whole, the whole massage thing. It's just I've
got a couple, but it's just never been my thing.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Teddy took me to that one place where they I
think it's a Korean place, and they scrubbed the shit
out of you. Yeah. Man, they had one in Beverly Hills. Man.
That felt like reminded me a little bit of like
Saw the movie, Like, am I gonna get murdered or
something like. It's it's how would you describe Have you
(38:50):
been in one of those? I have not.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
No, I've heard of them, and I've heard some are
highly traditional where you have to walk around naked and
from room the room, and you have to be naked.
They don't allow you not to be naked and it's
part of the whole experience. So I haven't tried that.
I haven't had the balls to do that.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
It kind of felt like a corner's office. Yeah, like
you know, they got there just like wash these like
all these washed it. They basically washed you like a dog.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
And you're just snaked and you're like, what the hell,
it's crazy. It took me. I was like, all right,
I'll do it, but.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
Yeah, it's funny. Now I understand Teddy loves to be
pampered with massages, right, Like that's her thing. That's that's
one thing my wife mentioned that she loves, and I
that's one thing I love. That's probably the most I
spend money on is massages. I used to get a massage.
At one point, I was getting a massage every week
and it got to the point where like, okay, I
(39:47):
got to back off on this because my massage budget
is getting really big. But I just love the deep
shoe sports massage that you know, she gets in there
and she just finds the pain or finds the nod
or finds the issue and it just works it out
and I feel a million dollars a million times better afterwards.
(40:10):
Even though it was a little painful, I know that
in a couple of days, it'll repair itself and I'll
be I'll get rid of that chronic pain, whether it's
my back or my neck or my shoulder whatever. Right,
So those are the kind of pampering massages I like,
I wouldn't even categorize them as pampering because they the
deeper that the therapists can get, the more productive it
(40:31):
is for me. So when I have had massages, you know,
when I'm on vacation and I'm like, I just need
a massage, and I get a massage at the local hotel.
Is just one of those little sweetest touch touch, touch touch.
I hate those massages. They just they don't do anything.
And I think it was probably a year or two
(40:51):
ago I discovered or I decided to try a facial massage,
and that was pretty freaking awesome. I've never had a
facial massage or a facial and it's a pretty cool experience.
But yeah, I'd just rather get the whole shebang, you know,
head to toe massage. And I'll tell you, the longest
massage I've ever had, I think was like six hours.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
Yeah, she she worked her ass off, you know, paste herself.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
But she just feels like an eternity to me.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
Oh no, no, I two hours. An hour feels like
a warm up for me. Now, two hours is like
what I wish. But most massage therapists don't do more
than ninety minutes because it's a lot of work.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
But it was.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
It was incredible, and I felt like a gazillion dollars
after that was six hours. I don't know how she
did it, but she's pretty amazing.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
Now I saw Tamera did like, was it a face lift?
I don't know, she did something or her face.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
She did a brow lift and a CO two skin
procedure where they basically burn a layer or two of
your face. Since she did it at the same time.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
Oh, by the way, that's what happened to me. I
did one of those things where they peel your face
and like a dumb ass I got. I got a
facial like four days after. Yeah, that was not a
good combination for my face. Hints that picture that came out,
you know the first year of Real Housewives.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
Was it painful?
Speaker 2 (42:21):
Oh yeah, the peeling thing. Holy shit, it was again.
You know how everybody gives you free shit back, you know,
so they're like, hey, come in for this. It's it's
appealing thing, Teddy approved. But then I got another face
or just because it was for free as well, Yeah,
I'm like, I might as well make it look good.
Well yeah, no, it did the opposite for my face.
But anyway, would you ever do something like that? I
(42:45):
would never do it like an eyelid thing like what
camera did.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
No. No, I won't say never because throughout my life
that I've ever said I'll never do that and never this,
never that.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
Ye.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
Somehow life just puts it in front of you and
and it changes things, right, It's all perspective. I would,
for example, my my wife has gotten plastic surgery and
she's not, you know, hiding it by any means. But
I've always told myself when I was younger, I would
never date or marry a woman that has to get
plastic surgery, because that's just not it's fake, it's phony,
(43:21):
it's it's it's not a real person. And obviously I'm
in love with my wife and she's a real person.
I love the real woman she is, and that the
work she has had done on her face has been
very subtle.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
She's done a pretty job of like looking natural, like
I wouldn't Yeah, if she didn wantn't have posted on
the Instagram, I would have known.
Speaker 1 (43:39):
Yeah. So so I have a new outlook about it,
a new respect for it, you know, like, Okay, maybe
a little tuck here and there, if you can afford it,
because it's expensive, might do the trick. And the one
thing that I've always thought I probably would want to
do but I could never afford, was getting my teeth done.
(44:02):
I have pretty yeah, veneers, I've had. I have pretty
good teeth. There's a couple of crooked ones and you know,
chip your down my waist. No, no, but I am
gonna go. I'm gonna go do that, Edwin, I'm gonna
go get some veneers. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna fly
to Texas where Smile Texas is. It's one of the
best doctors. I I did VET a few doctors, and
(44:26):
I enjoyed the conversations because my biggest fear was they're
gonna grind your teeth all the way down, you know,
to the I guess call it the core, and you're
gonna have these weird teeth and then they're gonna put
some fake teeth on there, right, So I never want to.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
Bind you down.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
Nowadays, the new technology is they kind of sand it
a little bit. They just take a very very small
little layer of your teeth and then they'll do the
cosmetics side. Like my front teeth here are chipped a
little bit, so they'll they'll grind those a little bit
to their flat or even and then they'll grind a
little bit this crooked teeth a little bit so that
(45:04):
the veneer can fit better. But here's the thing that
really convinced me. The doctor was all about function first
over esthetics, right, because you've seen doctors out there that
do these veneers and you have this fake white smile
that the teeth are all close together, it looks like
one piece and it just doesn't look natural at all.
(45:25):
And that's not what I want. I wanted to look
as natural as possible. So when the doctor mentioned their
technique is all about a function. First, they have to
be functional, like you've got to be able to eat,
you got to be able to bite into an apple.
You've got to be able to use them like they're
meant to be. And then we'll talk about esthetics. You know,
(45:46):
how do we make them a little bit closer together,
how do we make them a little bit straighter. Do
we want to widen your smile a little bit or
keep it narrow based on your biology, right so or physiology.
So after talking to the doctor and doing my research
and then you know, getting a kind of an idea
(46:07):
of what's going to look like, I was like, I
think I want these. I'm sold. I'm sold. So next
week we're going to go to Smile, Texas and get
fitted for them and get the temporaries, and then we're
going to fly home and then fly back and get
the permanent ones.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
And are you hearing it out on a with towm
at the same time.
Speaker 1 (46:25):
Yeah, Yeah, So both my wife and I are going
to do this and we're going to have million dollar smiles.
But you know, the thing that other concern I had was,
you know, as you age my grandmother who's ninety nine
years old. You know, she's been through a couple of
denture teeth, She's lost a couple of denture teeth, and
that just scares a shit out of me, Like, am
I going to lose my teeth? So I talked to
(46:48):
the doctor about that, and he says, no, the technology
nowadays is so much better. You will probably have these
veneers until the day you die. So they last about
they used to last about ten years and you had
to get them redone kind of like fake boobs, right,
But the doctor said, you can get twenty to thirty
years depending on how well you maintain these, and you
(47:09):
can get you know, really good longevity on your teeth.
So I'm going to have a big smile with straight teeth,
the perfect smile, and my wife's going to be happy.
I'm going to be happy, and you'll make sure we do.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
You're going to be showing off your teeth to us.
Speaker 1 (47:24):
I will, I will.
Speaker 2 (47:25):
Yeah, we got that to follow up on that.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
Yeah, that's probably going to be the most superficial thing
I've ever done to myself is my teeth, because I
just don't see myself getting you know, nip and tuck.
I scared my head too. Yeah, it just seems scary
to me, and I you know, I'm not so worried
(47:49):
about it. You know, I know who I am. I
know I'm getting older, and I think the scary part for.
Speaker 2 (47:55):
Me is you do it, you don't like it, and
then you try to fix it it, then you don't
like it, yeah, and then before you know it, it's
just a shit show. So I've made the the decision
that I'm gonna just let it age. I'll do botox,
so I'll do that kind of stuff. But hey, I'm
just I'm scared deny it, like I'm scared of cutting
(48:16):
my face like I have. You know, I've never been
in I've never gone down with oxygen what do they
call it, oh, anesthesia?
Speaker 1 (48:28):
Like you've never been put out?
Speaker 2 (48:29):
No, I've never been put out. So that's why I'm like,
probably a good thing that I because of that, I
probably won't do it, or I know I won't do
it because I'm just freaked out about that stuff.
Speaker 1 (48:39):
That's funny. I have been put out a few times
when I was having my heart issue, and they used
it was funny. I'll never forget the conversation the very
very first time I was going to be put out,
and I was like, I don't know what to expect
because the last time I was in the first time,
first and last time I was put out was when
I got my molers taken out, and I was like, thinks,
(49:00):
seventeen eighteen, and I don't remember the experience. I just
remember waking up crying and you know, like what happened
to me? And recently when I had my heart issue,
I went to the doctors and they were gonna put
me out, and the nurse was just talking up well
profolo or something like that. Pro profolo, I think it's called.
It's an anesthesia that Michael Jackson used to sleep and
(49:24):
she was like, it's the best experience ever. You're gonna
love it. And I'm like, I'm just getting put out.
And sure enough, you know, I think I was put
out multiple times that year, whether it was a cardio
version or actual ablationion, I was put out with that stuff,
and I'll tell you it was pretty awesome. It knocks
(49:46):
you out, you don't even feel it. You wake up
and you're a little groggy, and it takes about three
or four hours to really get out of your system,
but you feel amazing. It's crazy. So I can understand
the excitement behind you you put out And it's pretty safe,
relatively safe, I think as long as you're pretty healthy
and the anesthesiologist as they're watching your monitoring, I think
(50:08):
it's pretty safe. But that's that's yeah, that's my experience
with that. I do have one more point to make,
and that's why do you think most guys have the
stigma of not talking about, you know, their self care
(50:30):
or self beauty. You know, I mean I have a
lot of friends that do take care of themselves. I
grew up in the era that was metrosexual, right, you know,
you take care of your health, you take care of
your hire, you take care of them. You know, you
just take care of yourself. What about those guys I
just don't care, you know, they just so.
Speaker 2 (50:51):
I always often talk about how whatever you don't do
for a long time, you'll start to dislike it. Right, So,
if you don't do something for a long time, dislike it.
So if you haven't gone to the gym for a
long time, you probably dislike the gym. If you haven't
really taken care of yourself for a long time, you
probably dislike having to take care of yourself because whatever
(51:13):
whatever you serve, you'll love. Right. So many times, like
you said, like you just kind of get away from
like taking care of yourself and before you know you're
just like yah, screw it, and before you know it,
you're you just let yourself go, right. So I think
there's a part of you know, if you let yourself
(51:33):
go sometimes it's so hard to get back to where
you want to that it's so discouraging that you just
take the easier path, right, which is not like I'm
thinking fitness right for me. I've always had an example,
is fitness right for me? There is a certain point
(51:53):
where I'm like, oh man, I need to get back
to it right, because if I don't, I'm gonna let
myself get to another place that it's harder to recover
from as far as like it's just hard and it's discouraging, right,
So I try not to let it get to that place, right.
So I think with I guess taking care of yourself,
(52:17):
whether that's your fitness, whether that's the way you dress,
whether it's I think it just comes back to when
you don't do something for a long time, you just
start to dislike it, and you're like, yeah, I don't
need that anymore, care about it? So not a bad
I mean, it could be a good thing in many
reasons and in many ways, right, Like if you haven't
(52:38):
drank for a long time, you start to dislike alcohol,
Like I don't really like alcohol anymore, right, But it's
just I rarely drink now, so I don't really like
it as much.
Speaker 1 (52:49):
You know. So do you think there's guys out there
that talk about it freely because it's a normal I
don't even want to stay secure because there's a lot
to secure guys out there that just don't do you know,
the self care, self beauty.
Speaker 2 (53:04):
It's also pricey, right, so like I guess you pick
and choose, right, So for women probably a little more important,
I would think, yeah, than for men. And for men
it's expensive. So you're like, yeah, that's not really a
priority for me right now. So I'm cool with my
T shirt, right, I'm cool with not getting a facial
(53:26):
and things like that. So that that's kind of the
way I look at it.
Speaker 1 (53:29):
What about your nails? Have you ever gotten your nails done?
Speaker 2 (53:31):
Do you get your na?
Speaker 1 (53:32):
Know? What?
Speaker 2 (53:32):
Nails is one thing I've never my toenails. I'm starting
to do now just because you know, as you get older,
your toenails get weird too, So those I'm starting to do.
But I found like, shit, man, that thing's expensive. Like
I'm like, come on, you're really going to charge me
eighty bucks for or a hunt? Like haircuts are expensive now,
like what happened to the five dollars haircuts?
Speaker 1 (53:54):
Right?
Speaker 2 (53:55):
Like when I was growing up, I was getting a
three dollar haircut. Now it's like seventy eighty. I'm like,
wait a minute, you just freaking run my hair up
and you're charging me eighty bucks or a hundred bucks
and then you got a tip on top of that.
Speaker 1 (54:08):
Yeah, hund dollar haircut. That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (54:11):
The one I can't justify is my hand nails because
I could easily just get a clipper. Yeah, do it myself,
so that I refuse to pay for the toenails I'm
paying for.
Speaker 1 (54:21):
Okay, I wouldn't. I wouldn't expose my nail lady to
my toenails because they're just grotesque. But yeah, I wouldn't
pay for that either, because for me, I can just
get a clipper and be clip my nails and spiling
down and be done within a minute. Honestly, it takes
that long to just get it done. And I just
(54:42):
can't justify paying eighty dollars to get my nails done.
But I do know some guys that that's their thing.
They really enjoy that and it's their way of pampering themselves.
Speaker 2 (54:53):
But yeah, you guys getting circumcised when they're older.
Speaker 1 (54:57):
I have, I've heard, I have, remember I think I was.
It was must have been like twenty years ago. And
I don't really know why they would do that at
that age. I think we were in our mid thirties
when this guy was talking about it, and I just
didn't understand, you know, why he wanted to do that,
you know, but.
Speaker 2 (55:16):
It makes your penis look bigger. I don't know. But
I that's a hard one for me. That's a tough thing.
That is shage at this age. You know.
Speaker 1 (55:28):
I I don't want beauty to be painful. I want
it to be as natural as possible. But sometimes, you know,
I don't know how painful this teeth thing is. Going
to the doctor said it doesn't hurt at all, But
I have no idea because you know, I grew up
with the budget dentists that would, you know, stick the
needle into your bone and it would just traumatize you
(55:50):
and you would never want to go back to the dentists, right, dude, I.
Speaker 2 (55:53):
Wore braceists for three years because I couldn't we couldn't
afford to take him out.
Speaker 1 (55:57):
Oh that's right, that you know that would traumatize you.
So it wasn't until my probably early to mid forties
that I found a dentist that did not stick the
needle into my bone and make me cry. And I
had a new new outlook for going to the dentists
and getting my teeth clean and getting my teeth worked
done because it wasn't painful anymore when they stuck the
needle in my mouth. But that's yeah, if it's painful,
(56:21):
I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. So anyways,
I'm always great chatting with you and catching up. I'm
glad you're doing well.
Speaker 2 (56:31):
Saying some with you. Man, I'm glad you're doing well.
Can't wait, just look at your teeth next time.
Speaker 1 (56:35):
Yeah, I'm excited too. I'm actually excited. I always been
against it, but I'm actually interested in open to it
and excited to see what it looks like all right,
till next time, Until next time,
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