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March 1, 2023 42 mins

Ex youth pastor, Steve Hernandez, kicks back with Frankie to talk about stand-up comedy, bartending and sex stuff. Plus, Junior ties the knot and Solomon Ocampo plays a classic. Sponsored by our good friends at Ménagio Hotel & Casino.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I did not want to get married again because I've
been married before, and anybody who's been married before he
got a divorce, knows that it's just a sham sham,
right right, Yeah, yeah, I mean, you know there's a
lot of people that feel stronger about that. Ay, you
can still put a ring on it. You don't need
to get married and do all that legal stuff. That's
why I try to tell my wife. She wasn't having it.

(00:21):
She was not having it. Wait, so you were, you
were married before night and then you got married. Yeah,
I got a divorce and then I waited one year.
I said, I'm not gonna because I'm a kind of
guy who's had a girlfriend since their fourteen Like I've
just if I trip, I'll fall into a five year relationship. Um,
I just love that ship. I love building something with someone.
I love it. But after I got my divorce, it's

(00:43):
horrific by the way I was abused as a child,
and it's being divorced the worst thing that ever happened
to me. It hurts bad for one year, but I
said I'm not gonna date for one year, and then
when that year was up, I met Julia, and then
we've been together for going on nine years now. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I was gonna say, it seems like I've been a
long time. But in that one year, I'm telling you,
I just tore through the white women of Los Angeles,

(01:05):
just absolutely obliterated them. Yeah it was it was tough
for them. Uh yeah, no, it was a lot for them.
And I still running, you know, Steve, Huh Yeah, I'll
never forget. One time I was having sex with a
white woman and she looked down in my eyes and
she said, where are you right now? You know, I
don't know what damn, Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, and

(01:29):
uh when she said that, I straight up started weeping
and she went up. She went and got me a
T shirt and I just put the T shirt over
my face and like just kept weeping for a little
while and then we finished. Then we finished. You know,
I had had to knock it out, so though. Yeah, yeah, OK,
so there were some deep emotions out. Yeah, she could
see it in your eyes while you were around me.
Oh yeah, she was on top all so she's like

(01:53):
she looked at she was on top and she saw
She's like the sup's going through it. Yeah. So you
were just laying like my life, but you were still hard.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a trip right there,
I'm saying that she saw it. I mean, you imagine
how crazy my eyes must have been. But everything's okay now.

(02:22):
I told Julia, I was like, I don't want to
get married again. We had the talk. Then I said, okay,
I will, but then I was like, I just simply cannot.
And she cried a little bit. She's like, okay, you know,
I understand. But then the pandemic happened. And then when
the pandemic happened, almost right away, we're like trying to
figure out like all the plans we were making. It

(02:42):
was like, I'm gonna be with this girl forever, because
you know, when the pandemic first happened, I'm a bartender
and a comedian, and I was like, I don't know
if I'll ever work again or I do. This thing's
gonna be going through and we were like, okay, we
could live with my brother, or we could live with
your parents. You know, all the plans we were making.
I was just like, I'm gonna be with this girl
for a very long time at least, and if we

(03:03):
ever do break up, it's gonna be like a divorce anyways,
And so if she wants to get married, we may
as well got get married. So we got married on
New Year's Eve twenty four. Breakup. It's gonna be like
a divorce anyway. Yeah, might as well do it if
she really wants. It's gonna make her happy. But so
we got married in Vegas twenty and twenty on New
Year's Eve. And then we just had the ceremony in November.

(03:25):
And man, I don't like any of this stuff. I
don't buy it. I used to be a pastor. I
know my Bible. I don't. Yeah, I don't. I don't.
There's so much in it I don't buy. And especially
we're married already. But the ceremony honestly transformed. It made
me feel more like a husband, and it made me
feel like fuck, like step up and love her in

(03:47):
an even deeper way than I thought was possible, just
from this dumb ceremony that I'm completely against, right right right? Yeah,
damn yeah, that's sub man. Yeah, I mean, yeah, it's
a beautiful thing. I mean, even the photos he looked
I did, I didn't think you could look that guy,
to be honest, out of a photoshop goode. I'm telling

(04:08):
you the ship was perfect, but it was beautiful like
the speeches. You know, we're both stand ups, so yeah, yeah,
the pressure was heavy, a lot of stand ups at
the event. You know, I don't know if we could
pull this off. But I woke up that day and
I've been like kind of almost like a set like jokes.
I was like sitting setting aside points and stuff. But
I also knew it had to be that day I

(04:29):
got to write these things. So that morning we woke up.
She started getting her hair makeup like at nine, and
I woke up at nine and I just I just
like the Holy Spirit was there and I started writing
those things. It took me three hours and I like
just wrote them and I was like crying, yea when
I was writing him. So I know if I'm crying
when I'm writing them, that this thing's I'm gonna not

(04:50):
this shit's gonna go create ham like in front of people.
And uh it did. Like she went first and then I,
you know, I had to drop it. You know, he
had to drop the hand what you Yeah. At wedding,
the vows are about the guys. If the guy cries,
the guy has to step up. He's got to say

(05:12):
the sweetest things. But you know, we work in words,
so to me, it's like, this is one of the
hardest things I'm ever gonna have to do because everyone
said everything already, So how am I? How am I
gonna get into this? And how am I gonna make
it special? And I mean, I'm telling you, God was there,
my man, he was there and that things just like
but there were times when I stopped because I was like,

(05:34):
I'm gonna start weeping. So I did cry a little bit.
But the times that I stopped people new and I
mean I'm I stopped for one time like twenty seconds
because I was oh, oh yeah, oh yeah yeah. And
you can feel the audience just like, yeah yeah, I
would have been, oh yeah, it was uh and it

(05:54):
was beautiful and it's it's awesome, you know. So yeah,
I'm very stuck, very excited. We got that laughter for
your soul and now too. Then to the Frankie King
on this show, Good afternoon, loved ones. We are cats
here today to join the union of Junior Gallibis. I
married An Sanchez and holy matrimony. At this time, the

(06:16):
two would like to share all of their wedding votes.
Oh damn, my el like, you know how much I
love you? And there eating from our first day, you know,
when we went out for sandwiches and I went to
use the bathroom. Then I came back and my sandwich
was gone. I asked you if you ate my sandwich,

(06:37):
and you said yes. I knew from that day on,
I can trust you in my heart. Plus, I think
you're all fine, and I can't wait until you know,
we say, are I dudes? So then we come back
all crazy in front of everybody. Who Junior Junior, I

(07:02):
didn't like you at first, but then you grew on me.
You're annoying sometimes, do you? Junior Galovis, take Marry Bell
Sanchez to be your lawful wedded wife. That's sickness and
in health for second all odors, as long I suppose
shall live, I do forever and they and to you. Alright,
Bell Sanchez, take Junior Galovis to be our lawful wedded husband.

(07:26):
That sickness in health or second haloders for as long
as you both shall live. Mighty bey, Hey, mighty bey,
this is your turn to say the two words me huh,
mighty bee. I have two other words for you. You're stupid, Junior.
I can't marry you because you're lame serious you working

(07:50):
at kioskam on. Your car's ugly and you're ugly too.
Oh mighty bee, don't mean it. Your rooms are plastic
and you're too sharp. I can't even Sometimes I turn
around and I'm like, where is he because you're so
far down there. Oh no, you don't mean that, man, even, No,

(08:13):
you don't mean it. No, no, Junior, wake up, Junior,
wake up. Oh dang. I had a nightmare fo you
were crying in your sleep and the whole I recorded it.
I'm about to put it on YouTube because you look stupid.

(08:36):
But then you got a jamb okay because my other
man is coming soon. What I'm just kidding. Stop being
aut sensingive. Oh dang, you got me. I had a
nightmare that you know you're getting married and that you
had said no, you're stupid, junior snock. Yeah, I was trippy.

(08:58):
Oh come all right, then I'll see you later. I
can't hear you right now, get out of here. M
we got that laughter for your soul and now tuned
into the Frankie on this show. Hey, what what's up? Y'all.

(09:21):
This is the Frankie or Show podcast. I'm Frankie Kees.
Today I got the Homeboy, long time homie, Steve Fernandez
and the Billy. Yeah, what's up with this, Steve? You know, man,
what are you gonna say? I'm you know, Los Angeles
doesn't have any love for me. I'm one of the
founding alternative comics comedians. I'm a bartender at the Chatterbox

(09:42):
and Covina. We got one of the best shows in
Los Angeles every Sunday, every Sunday at eight o'clock. I've
been there for fifteen years Thursday, Friday Sunday. You can
always catch me there. You know. Luckily I'm getting more
work now, so I take shifts off. But I like
I like driving. I'm from West Covina. I live in
Hollow now, but I commute back every week. And I

(10:03):
like being a part of a neighborhood bar. And still yeah,
that's a good, good, good vibe in there, Homie. And
you got that that Sunday show on lock you know,
and it's like, you know, some people know they go
in there, They're like, oh it's Sunday. They listen. Even
you get those gangsters in there sometimes I want to
trip and you're like, hey, homie, yeah, it's not what
it is right now, we're doing comedy. We started charging,
so don't come anywhere. The gangsters don't come. They're like, well,

(10:26):
we're not gonna pay. But yeah, but there's let's go
to a dive bar o. There's been a few times
before because we've been doing the show since twenty and ten. Well,
I thought I was gonna die because I was there
one night when you're like, because you do a good job,
like hey, y'all need to be quiet, like here's what's
going on here, Tony, you know, and it's like I'll
never forget this one time. This like this fool was
there and he was like in an all like red

(10:47):
like suit, which is terrifying. Like he was there, he
was dressed up. I don't know where they were coming from,
him and his girl, but they just kept talking. And
you know, I'm from West Covina, so I know it's
a little dangerous because you had a lot of second
and third generation Mexicans there and they like have a
chip on their shoulder because their dad is tough, but
they're not. But so they get a little crazier than

(11:09):
they should. But a lot of times I'm like, I'm like, dude,
we're in Covina, pot like relax, but I also know
you just gotta like fight these guys or you gotta
just be like, let's go, let's go outside. So that guy,
I remember, I went up to him and he just
wouldn't be quiet. I was like, let's go outside, let's
take this outside. And uh, right when I said that,
I turned my back and I heard him go and

(11:30):
I was like I might die right now. Yeah, like
do that like he's gonna fight me, and he made
that sound. It was fine, nothing bad happened. He walked out.
He hap Yeah. He started saying like and making fun
of my car, and he's like he's like wait wait,
or you get a real car like me? Homing. I

(11:50):
was like which When I was like, where's your car?
Which kind of car you guy, He's like right over there,
full brand new Jeep Cherokee. I want to see come
on home. You want to see the interior. And I
was like that that is a nice carfall I mean,
I just want to get them out of the show,
you know what I mean, start showing you that. I
was like, that is a nice car, a bad car fall.
I just got these rooms actual weeks ago home, Like yeah,

(12:14):
I mean I've almost gone fights. We want to address
as Santa Claus. But like I said, we started charging
post pandemic, so we ain't got no trouble at the
shows no more. But even when you had two, they
went smooth man overall. I was always impressed with that,
the way it was like a do you had you
like establish a comedy audience, comedy crowd there at the
Chatterbox and Kovin it was. It's always been a known thing,

(12:36):
like every Sunday, homie, you can pop in there and
yeah done. And you've had me on some shows. I've
done characters there, like changing in a little back bathroom
like the little Yeah, I mean, I mean they're changing
at a creeper or whatever. I know. I you know,
I love one either so much. I think I think
that's the funniest thing you do. You just transform yourself.

(12:56):
I think I did her at Chatterboxing and they like,
we're not having it. Yeah, yeah, they were not having it.
You know, I'm queer, so I've like broken them down
with queer shit now. But it took me years to
figure out how to do it with a straight like
Latino audience because they don't like that shit. Oh yeah, yeah.

(13:17):
A Mexican guy like thinks if I laugh at the ship,
it means I'm gay. And so it took me years
to figure out how to talk about this shit in
a way where they could laugh too. And uh yeah, yeah,
I'll never forget I had this joke. Um so terrible
talking this way because parents are here. I don't care, dude,

(13:38):
I had this joke. I tried this at the very
beginning of thing. When I first I know we could
curse everything, right, I can talk about sex stuff and yeah, okay, good,
all right. When I quit being a youth pastor, I
went I started working in a screen printing place in Pomona,
and I'm still sad. So I was thinking about God

(13:58):
all the time and shit, So I just like I
thought that was gonna be my calling as a youth pastor.
And so I would work at the screen printing place
and I go get like three tall boys and there
was a porn chop off a halt and Pomona, it's
not there anymore. And I would just get drunk. I
drink the tall boys and I just go and porn chops.
They have like video arcades. I'm sure some of your
listeners know about these. They still have them, and you go,

(14:20):
you pay money, and you just jack off. For me,
I would think about God. I'd be jacking off thinking
about God, all drunk and shit watching these things. Yeah,
you're like, oh, dang the balance. Yeah all right, So
I would go into this, this porn shop, I cry,
And this is I now identify as queer. I don't
really have sex with I stopped drinking four years ago. Yeah,

(14:42):
and so I haven't had sex with guys since I
stopped drinking. I don't know what the deal is with that. Wait,
were you ramming fools when you were dating Julia? Yeah, okay, dang,
but once I stopped drinking, I just haven't done that.
I should go to therapy figure out what's going with
all that stuff. But I also I also don't care.

(15:03):
I love women so much that that was cool. That
was fun for the time. But anyway, all that to say,
this is like one of the first times that I
hooked up with a guy. In the story I'm about
to tell you, So then some old Mexican guy came
in here. The fool chartful had a nice suit on,
you know, hair comb, and he gave me a blowjob
in the thing. But I was scared, like like, I

(15:24):
mean I just did not know what was happening because
I was like, but you still had a heart on.
Oh of course yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, of course, of course.
I mean I could tell you know, I tried to
tell this thing as a joke, and so like I
after I finished, I like ran, I ran out of
there because I'm like, I'm not gayful, Like I'm just
like running out of that. I'm scared about what happened. Okay, Yeah,

(15:44):
like you felt bad or you felt like what the fun? Yeah?
I felt crazy? Yeah yeah. And so that fool like
gave me his card. He was a nice guy. He's like,
you're beautiful. I think you're beautiful. And he was like, here,
take this card. He's all suited and he's like, let
me make you dinner, you know, all this stuff, and
I'm just like I just took the card and I
like threw it out the window. So this is one
of those this is one of the first things that

(16:05):
happened to me. And I tried to write this joke
and tell this joke at the chatter box. But you know,
like I said, straight guys, especially Latino, especially in Mexican guys,
they're not gonna laugh at this ship because they just
think it's it took me like five years to crack
this joke, and this is how I cracked it. I
finally figured out this. So so the I'm gonna just
say the joke to you because I don't really say
it anymore that much anymore. And he goes, he goes.

(16:28):
The guy goes hey, He's like, is it cool if
I'm here right now? And I'm like jacking it, you know,
and I'm like drunk and all in the booth and
I'm like, okay, I'm like I don't care, you know,
kind of flirty and shit, I don't care if well,
you know, like look at him like sly on ship.
And then after a little while, and this is really

(16:49):
what happened, is he goes, hey, is it cool if
I Is it cool if I give you a blowjob
right now? And at that point did he talk did
he talk masculine or was he like is it called
I give you? No? No, it was like masculine if
I give you a bro job? Yeah, And so at
that point, and yeah, it's at that point I had
to ask myself a question, and that question was this, Steve,

(17:15):
do you want to live the rest of your life
knowing you are for sure heterosexual? And then you know
the rooms like that? And then I go, or do
you want to get your dick suck right now? I
like everyone like that? Everyone goes crazy. Yeah, I was like, yeah,

(17:35):
because everyone's like I like to get my dick suck.
I feel so bad, Frankie, because you took me out
pretty early on. I'm a much better comic now. But
I could tell sometimes your audience I would say kind
of weird shit like that and not that crazy, because
I would never say that in front of your audience.
They would get scared. They could tell when I started
doing comedy. I could do a Mexican room for like
eight minutes, and then they would start to be like,
something's wrong with this fool? Ye are? They be like,

(17:57):
I think this fool's game. Why would you come out?
They're like, oh, check it out. He's one of us.
I meant shaved. They start getting into that. I mean
I've gotten I've gotten good enough that I could do
an houtur in front of a Mexican auce, and you
just gotta like say, I feel like you always did good.
I don't know, you could always do the same, but
now you can do almost the exact same jokes, but

(18:18):
you just kind of like do it with a little
bit more of a wink. But I know, like there's
a lot of Mexican guys that their only sense of
humor is just gay shit. They'll be they'll just say
gay shit to you. They don't mean it, but they
just think it's the funniest thing to be like, oh, yeah,
we should go home. That's the classic thing. Yeah, I
think we've both talked about that, you know, like you know,
they constantly like, oh, I'm not like it, but they'll
be like, we took you love it and they're like,

(18:39):
don't like really grab your dick and shit, be like,
oh you love it, huh d just just grab my
That's like a classic Raiders fan. I've got like a
Raiders regular that loves like just like that. Um. But yeah,
it took me a while to figure it out. But now,
you know, Chatterbox is cool and they all love me,
and you know they're scared about that stuff still sometimes too.

(19:02):
Oh yeah, homie, like like it's the same thing I
had to learn how to, you know, because I like
talking because it's to me, it's so funny, Like especially
homies or cousins that are still like real homophobic, Like
it's so funny to me because I'm like I tell
a joke about it still where I'm like, you know,
some of these folds are like they need to get
their lives together, like they're at the bottom and they're
being judgmental about somebody else. It's just like it's comical

(19:23):
because I'm like, damn, homie, you're talking shit about the
way this. You know, we all successful as gate like
you know, like a closeted uncle or a closet cousin
and you just feel so bad for them. Yeah, and
you're like, damn man. And then it gets to that
point too, like you know, where they talk about it
so much or if it offends them so much, then
you start saying like, hey, homie, is there's something deeper here,

(19:43):
Like I mean there's I mean, it's sadly, there's a
very high percentage of those fools that have those feelings,
but they're like they ended up pushing it down or
and then and they just stay sad and that breaks
my heart. Like, you know, this is sexuality, all that stuff.
It doesn't mean anything. It only means something if you
you want it to. That's what even the stuff, Like

(20:04):
I said, I haven't had sex with guys in so long,
I don't. I don't care, like I'm not trying to
think about it too much. And I just love women
so much and I'm so you know, I'm still lucky
in that area. So yeah, yeah, now you're married to
a beautiful in your ladies beautiful by the way. Yeah,
people will believe it. Look at my Instagram fo yeah,
you're way picture anything like she's gorgeous. What does she

(20:27):
say about that? She's just like, oh, that's she thinks
it's cool. White girls think it's cool. Art hardest girls,
hardest girls think it's cool. Artists think it's cool. And
I am you know, like I said, I am queer
and I'm not like just it's not a sex thing
for me. Like I love talking about relationships. I love
talking about emotions like me, you know, well jam me

(20:49):
and my girl just jam talking about feelings and shit,
dreams and stuff like I love that ship. I'd rather
I'd rather talk to women almost any day of the
week because guys they're not they usually don't have access
to their hearts and shit that much, so they just
talk about surface level stuff. I'm a few boys that,
you know, we could just fucking start jamming like that.
But yeah, I love all that shit, and you know,

(21:10):
I'm I'm I'm still non monogamous, polyamorous too, So that
to me is like and Julia, I'm glad that she
quote unquote lets me do that stuff still too. But
I just love meeting people and being intimate with them
and talking with them and getting to know them. Of
course there's sex stuff, but to me, I don't even
I don't even care about the sex stuff that much.
I like being able to have like good friends that

(21:32):
happen to be men, happen to be women, whatever like that,
and there's no limits on our relationship, right, I mean,
what's gonna frank you with this stuff? Known me for years,
I know, I'm like, damn, stay a little bit longer, Tom.

(22:02):
I'm here with legendary recording artist Solomon Ocampo, and you
are tuning in to listener Support Radio. I'm your host
Dennis chung So in nineteen seventy eight. You toured with
some of the legends of funk, some say the greatest
funk album in the history of modern music. Organist Krusty Waller,
bassist sins You Okada, drummer t T. Robinson and Coo

(22:23):
can forget Michael Pudenaggen, the late father of Kulo News
team Zone Jan Pudenaggen. This was an all star band.
What was it like recording the album? Well, Dennis, it
was magic. Coul Krusty would come in and, you know,
with an idea and we would just vibe buff of this.

(22:46):
You know. The engineer would hittoryclude. Then that was it.
The we became instruments of the universe and molecules and
all its surroundings, formed as one to create these magical sounds.
Some of the tracks were just one take. Absolutely when

(23:08):
we were locked in. It was some universal components that
cannot be put into words that allowed us to record
such vibrant sounds in one take. It's unfortunate what happened, Yes,
I mean, if I have come in a minute earlier,

(23:32):
I too would have been buried by the mudslide. Tragic,
but thankfully the recordings were not lost. I'd like to
play one of my favorite tracks from the album. This
is a tune you wrote called Sunshine for My People.

(23:55):
Sunshine for my People. We are going to live forever.
No Ring for my people, will always be together, Blue

(24:17):
Skies for my People. We are going to make so
many more albums. Not Gray Cloud for my People, MacHale,
Crusty shingju Kat, Breast Friends Forever, Sunshine for my People.

(24:48):
Oh wo wow, truly incredible. I'm your host, Dennis Chung

(25:09):
and that was Solomon OKEMPO. We're in awe. Thank you,
m m m h. We got that laughter for your
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ten or twenty Oh it na, I mean, dude, that's

(26:56):
crazy on me. Yeah, yeah, because it is crazy how
people especially in our community, that left, you know community.
It's like you know, you know in black and Latino
room too, the same they kind of they get real
tense or real uncomfortable over it. Yeah, And it's just
funny to me, man, because I'm like, dog, this is
ain't you know? They want to categorize certain like behaviors
or dada da. They think, oh, because this full hooked
up with one dude, he's gonna be trying to ram

(27:16):
you all the time. It's like no, I mean, that's
not how it works, you know. It's just like it's
like there's there's there's there's people that be too extra.
There's good people and bad people in every genre or
whatever you want to call it. Absolutely that's like you're cool,
You're cool. I don't give a fuck what you do.
You know, people, we just gotta stop being so catholic.
Come on, man, the jig is up. Yeah, it's over,

(27:37):
it's over. But these people are still you know, come on,
you're still you're still catholic. That's what I mean. No
matter all the crimes that have been revealed like that. Yeah,
I yell, I yell at my audience all the time.
The girls, the guys. Because the girls aren't masturbating. They
never comed in their life. They don't know how to come.
They got all these crazy beliefs and shit like that.
And I'm like, God wants you to come for I

(27:57):
say that to the women, you gotta learn to masturbate.
And young girls are like, I don't need to master bed.
I got a man for that. I was like, a
man ain't gonna help you. Come. You gotta get access
to your brain, girl, because that's about a women. Women
more orgasmine. That's ninety percent. They're up what's going on
in their head and if they can't figure out how
to access that shit. Everybody knows the parts to touch,

(28:18):
but I don't know so many women. They got so
much shit on the brain and they don't want to
let loose like that, Then you're spending your whole life
not orgasmine. Are you kidding? You think that's what God
wants from you? Give me a break? Yeah, yeah, no,
no, no no, God definitely wants you to to bust on me.
That's as little. That's like a gift, you know, just
like especially yeah, especially women, they got a hard fall.

(28:42):
That's why, you know, once they learned to unlock it.
This is a this is a present, this is a gift.
They they orgasm dynamically. Us we got it easier. So
we get these stupid little comps like like so sad
you know, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, it's not as Yeah,
you don't see nothing like that, just getting the evil

(29:05):
stuff out. Yeah, yeah, it is for me. I'll even
talking myself tode because they say, oh, it's good to
prevent prostate cancer. You know, you read all that stuff.
I'll be thined about that shit sometimes when I'm thanking
it like noah, this is good for my body, Like yeah,
that's great. Oh man, I'm sorry I've scared your listeners.

(29:27):
Nah ho me though, Hey this is some real shit.
You're beat honest good. Yeah that's all you could ask,
you know. I mean I talk about the stuff with
all my people at the chatterbox. I scare them too. Uh.
There's like Filipinos like tough guys go to that then
my regular Yeah. I remember. I got a good friend Eric,
who's my regular. He came to my wedding and everything,
and he like knows that I'm a freak. But I

(29:48):
don't think he understood that. I talked I've had sex
with guys before, and he was talking with his girls
late night, after hours and he was like, yeah, Steve
knows what it's all about getting pegged. And I was like,
are you talking about it? And he said you got
paid right, And I was like, oh, I've never been
paid before. He's like yeah, they think yeah, and he's like,
what do you mean. I was like, oh no, I
had real yeah I had. But I'm telling you his

(30:14):
poor friend, this is a that's funny though, that he
was willing to accept that you were paid yeah, once
you talked about I mean, that's still pretty liberal of him.
I think to accept that I got paid. Yeah, for
a lot of guys, that's just straight up gay, even
if a woman's doing it. But right, yeah, but there's
but there's that line because you think, yeah, because I
know a lot of folds they get their high as

(30:34):
they put on their ladies, put on little bilitos and
fucking ram them. You know, some don't like to admit it.
They feel like they get this weight after should just
telling that, like that had a my lady puts a
little thing in there every foret this four or five
years ago. I watched his face drop and this girl too,
was like really and they were like sad. Oh they
were like disappointed. Yeah, yeah, they were sad. I remember

(30:55):
they would like kept coming and they and then after
a while they kind of like stopped thinking about it,
and they're my good friends now, you know what. Maybe
that helps. I mean, like you know, what sh man.
That's why I talk about all this shit. I'm not
like like it desenses desensitizes in Yeah, I'm a masculine guy.
I have respect with from my friends. That's what it is. Yeah.

(31:16):
The most is because you're like a you know, you're
like a tough looking dude. Yeah. So when you say like,
nah man, you know, because I don't run the homies
every now. Yeah. The when people associate all that shit
with weakness or stuff like that or that, you know,
it's you know, they use it as a derogatory term.
It's just like some of the toughest guys I know
are gay guys. Yeah, and there's guys that you know

(31:37):
that are fucking around like this and you don't even
know it. So I talk about it in my comedy
and all that shit just so people know that it exists.
Because I like to break down all these barriers, especially
in brown communities. Yeah, because I want everybody to be happy.
I mean, we got much bigger fish to fry as
a people than fucking whatever. Whoever. Anyone's having sex within

(31:59):
a better man you kidding me? But you know what's
funny interesting comedically is I think my first ten years
was talking about all this shit, and now, like I said,
having that sex with guys in four years now, I
don't care. I've accepted myself to be this way, and
I think that's a big reason why I started comedy.
But now I'm just like writing regular jokes. It's so
funny that I got all this crazy shit out of

(32:19):
the way and now I'm just talking about my family.
But I think that's that's kind of how stuff goes
in real life, too, right. I mean, you know, you
can talk about you be as crazy you want, but
then you just come back to yourself ultimately. Yeah, yeah, no, no, man,
it's a great point, man, I think people, I mean,
I see that. You know, I've known you for a
long ass time. I mean for a long time. I
didn't know that about you. I just thought, you know,

(32:41):
this feels crazy, like you know, but I don't know,
to be honest, I wasn't like, oh what the folks
gets down like that. You're like, you live you literally
lived in the Bay for so long, so none of
this stuff means that much to you. I mean, think
about how much living in the Bay transformed who you
are as a person. Yeah, I mean I was still young,
when I moved up there, I was like, you know,
I don't even think I was twenty one yet. And

(33:02):
then uh and then uh, you know, I was up
there for like thirteen years, and I don't know, I
would just kind of always uh, I just was non judgmental. Yeah,
like my mom and dad were always like that too. Hey,
good people are good people. Treat people are spects all good.
If somebody's whack, they're whack, you know, like obviously there's
always that like, oh, you're saying that because I'm da Dada,

(33:23):
Like no, I'm saying that because you're an asshole. I
don't get if you're fucking frands whatever, Like if you're cool,
you're cool if not if not, but so, but yeah,
being up there obviously you see I mean we see
crazy shit here too though. Yeah. So it's like but yeah,
I don't know it just I guess the bay's like
more diverse in that way or whatever. If you're telling
me that's how you've been, I believe. I mean, good
people are good people, and then there are just assholes

(33:44):
and fuck them. So right, I'm with you on that too.
It's like, you know, you don't need to force it
down to anybody. So if somebody's not into it and
they're being like, you know, you don't need to be
like nah that you need to see this and whatever,
you know, but like you know, it's like, I don't know,
I think it's like maybe helps with It's like, do
you say that couple that was kind of like oh man, Steve,

(34:05):
and then now they're like, okay, you know, like maybe
overall it helps how they look at that in the world.
And I hope. So, I don't know. I mean, I
got a lot of regulars. They still say that, you know,
they still say derogatory gay terms when they're talking about
I'm not trying to Yeah, they don't say it to me,
but they'll just say all that guys are this, so
that guys are that, And I'm like, I'm not trying
to like change anyone's behavior or anything like that. Yeah, yeah,

(34:27):
you're just people are always going to say that kind
of stuff. That's just how they're brought up. But who cares,
you know, as long as you're good people, as long
as you help people look out for everyone, that's all
I care about. Yeah, yeah, I mean that's all It's
all good. I mean, yeah, weird thing I mean, and
I feel like it's like you got a beautiful wife,
like you do your thing, and it's like it's just
a trip to look at it. For a lot of

(34:47):
people are bet they're like, what the fuck, It's not
like you're like this, like you know, just like loner
fucking But I mean, like I said, I'm more like
I don't even I barely talk about the stuff anymore
because I don't do it anymore that much. But yeah,
but you also don't care, like, hey, fuck it. Yeah,
I really don't care. And I think everybody, once they
figure out what they like and the kind of things

(35:08):
they're interested in, on who they are, if they express it,
you take a lot of heat. I think at first,
you know, the poly stuff weirds people out, I think
more than any gay ship does. But I've been talking
about this. I've been this way for fifteen years, for
so long that everyone's just kind of gotten used to it.
And that's the point. You take the heat up top,
and then later on everything's fine. But I like doing

(35:29):
that shit better than lying and keeping things behind closed doors.
I just don't believe that shit. I think shame and
guilt and stuff like that destroys a lot of people,
especially when you're talking about Latinos, they just hide all
this shit and it fucking eats them up. I think
it destroys families, and I just don't want that for
myself or for anyone that I know I love. Yeah,
amen to that, homie. I mean that is like that

(35:52):
monster that lives in a lot of us, you know,
where you gotta all this shit that you're ashamed of
and you're guilty of, like you're taught to not even
talk about it, you know what I mean absolutely. I
mean that's that's why I had a quick drinking four
years ago, because that's how I dealt with it for
so long. But you know, everything's good now. I got
a beautiful white wife. Yeah Yeah, I got to two

(36:12):
women that i'm dating right now, loving that they're wonderful women.
Got two girls in Chicago. Life is good, man, That's
what we got's that's what we gotta get. Talking to
your girl about marriage and then you guys are gonna
open wide. Now you're solo man, for your heart belongs
to one. I could I could see that in you, man.

(36:32):
I mean, she's definitely the super hoomie, you know what
I mean. Like super homie. Yeah. I love my girl
so much too. I couldn't do anything without her. I mean,
but it's like I put it. You know, obviously work crazy,
you know, because I was doing that. You know, that's
why I did drugs party. All that shit is self

(36:53):
medicating all the shit that you held in your whole life.
And it's like she's stuck with me through all that shit,
you know, going to rehab this. And then it's like,
oh yeah, what's wrong with me? And then she was
just like I love you, motherfucker. We're gonna get through
this kind of thing. It's just like so it's like damn,
you know, it's like that's the home. I love that shit.
And and plus before you blew up too, she was there,
Oh homie, she was down to make out with me.

(37:15):
I'm sleeping on my homies couch. So yeah, that was sad.
I remember. Yeah, well, I mean that's so funny. My
brother Danny Moon is a He's a huge Colors. Yeah.
Oh dude, that was a trick. He's cool as hell.
Remember we would go watch movies that it had. It
was lofting downtown of LA. For those who don't know,
is his brother Danny moon is like as an where

(37:37):
the tile hair color, hair color is yeah in the world, Yeah,
like crazy shit going to Paris and all that shit
coloring people's But that fool was the same way before
he got famous and before he got successful, and so
it was, you know, it's sad, like lady got gotten
that rich. It's sad, you know what I mean. But
that's like how my brother was. That's what you know,

(37:58):
you dressing up like one either Hamlita in the chatterbox
bathroom and the back and ship put it on a
dress and it's like, I don't know if this is
you know, I don't know if this is gonna work
or like, you know, you just take the hit. Now
you do it to sold out audiences everywhere, but you
know there's times when you're doing the exact same thing
and that looks sad, you know what that's like. It
suppose out a dive bar wedges that you're like sisters

(38:21):
dresses and ship. It's sad. But then you make it
and then it's like, oh that's great, Oh I love it.
Comedy genius right here yea st yeah, yeah, I love
that shit though. Man, Yeah, that was always funny with me,
Like doing character work has always been my love and uh,

(38:42):
you know, obviously stand ups my first love. But like
I remember when I was just working on developing those characters,
I didn't care because like on that note, like I
would get shit. Like. It wasn't until I got like
kind of started building up and getting kind of a
name that you know, I started getting heat from the
Latino commedity or even the other side, like wait, what
are you trying to dude, Like, are you're identifying as that?
I'm like, I'm just doing a character HOMEI yeah, And

(39:04):
somebody was like, oh, you know, I love the trollo
fits dooble when you dress as a hanging that you
know that, I'm like, fucking fuck you. Then I'm not
for you, then, Homi, because I'm just doing Yeah, I'm
not gonna. I grew up watching you know s and
Now and Robin Williams and Martin Lawrence when he did
and uh, you know all these you know, Eddie Murphy
and now you prefer you know, why would I limit

(39:24):
myself to doing like, oh, no, I can't do female
characters because that might be weird people out, Like I
don't give a fuck on me. It's just you know,
I got one life to live. It's like the ship's
funny to me, and I'm just becoming somebody else and
I don't care like you know, and you fucking become one.
You become one. But I'll never forget that. Did you
ever see Mambo Mouth with John Leguizama, Yes, dude, that's

(39:45):
all that when I was young, and that that inspired me.
He did three characters too, and he dressed up in
one as a At that time, they called him a transvestite,
a transvestite prostitute, but he did it. She was really
funny and then he like set some heartbreaking shit too.
I remember seeing that when I little on HBO and
I was just like, this is awesome. I've never seen
anything like Luca's arms. The man, oh genius man when

(40:07):
he when he does any of those female characters, like damn,
you just you forget that it's him. Yeah. I've had
people telling me that because that's what I'm you know,
I'm trying to type of you, because hey, there was
even a dude in Miami. It's always like, oh man,
he came out and I was like, oh, he's doing
the wig thing and doing the put on her dress thing.
He's like, but dude, like two like a minute into
your set, I forgot it was you, and I was like, hey, yeah,
that's what's up, Homie. Would you ever consider doing stuff

(40:28):
more dramatic with those characters? Yeah? For sure. I mean
that's my goal. You know, Okay, good? What about it
like a one man show that kind of thing, or
you want to just do movies and TVs? You want
to do like make a lot of money. Yeah yeah,
whatever it takes. Yeah, I'm just trying to make dope. Shit. Yeah,
that's sick. Well, shad, Homie, thanks for coming on here.

(40:49):
Thanks you anything you want to plug uh to just
the Chatter Rocks Hey, Chatter Chatterbox and Covina Homie West Covina. Yeah,
go Covina. Every The show's every Sunday at the Open
Mics every Thursday at eight, and then I'm bartending both
those days. I'm starting to get commercials and shit, I'm
starting to making real money. Yeah, that's how I could
get all these white girl friends and stuff. You know

(41:09):
what I mean. It's not cheap, it's not it's set up.
And you know, when you're older, you can't just take
these girls to chilies and stuff. You gotta you gotta
go to these real restaurants. Yeah, yeah, you gotta make
reservations and shit. Yeah, that's that's why I need more
commercial work. So if you're listening, keep booking me out
there and then we're looking for two years, five years,
really paying me out big. Okay. I got a lot

(41:31):
of white women to support. Thank you so much for
having me on Frankie right out. It's Steve for dad
as y'all. I'm signing I was Frankie. You know Frankie.
You should check it out, all right. One love for
tuning into another episode of a Frankie Show presented by
Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network. Shout out to the

(41:52):
Homie Hans Olivia n the Homie hearn Dog here in
the studio, James Fritz, Kevin Kamia, Bobby dj Us, the
legendary soul assassins by me guy, you know how we do, Homie.
Thank you for giving it. That's an opportunity on the
get down and if you get a chance, told me
it's go ahead and rate and review the podcast or
continue living your life. We'll see you on the next

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episode of The Frankie Kno That Show. That's what's soft
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